Experiments proving Apple Usenet groups are filled to the brim with children

[Ultred Harold Newton Ragnusen]

Experiments proving Apple Usenet groups are filled to the brim with children.

Abstract:
This thread is my observation of decades of being on Usenet, where it's
proven, time and again, with experimental evidence provided, that Apple
users are not like normal adults..

Observation:
For decades, when "inconvenient facts" occur on the adult platform
newsgroups, they're almost invariably handled, with honesty, adult
vocabularies, and helpful intent.

When those same or similar "inconvenient facts" occur on the child-like
Apple newsgroups, they're almost invariably handled with duplicity,
potty-mouthed vitriol, and purposefully unhelpful intent.

Conclusion:
Why?
I don't know why.

I just know what is.

The fact is in the simple recent experimental record below (where the Apple
posters have shown, for /decades/, they're not like normal adults).

Perhaps inconvenient facts threaten the entire underlying foundation of the
Apple users' belief system?

Examples below:

e.g., how Windows users (adults almost all) respond to inconvenient facts:
What is this strange new Windows file-system beast (C:\Windows\System32\wuaueng.dll)?
<http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103450>
&
Trying to make the Win10 start menu work - can it do more than 5 groups?
<http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103409>
&
Do you have an iOS device? How to get it to xfer screenshots to Windows 10 easily without that iTunes abomination?
<http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103286>
etc.

e.g., how Linux users (adults almost all) respond to inconvenient facts:
What's a good way to back up Gmail when you've reached the size limit?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/6YHdHFcpGxs/OKSojSbLAgAJ>
&
Have you ever seen "unsupported reparse point" warnings in ls output?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/3XyLpV-Za9o/mHiUyE3EAwAJ>
&
Only if you use iOS: What do you use to interface to Ubuntu 17.10?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/P7WlZ5OcJPU/na3l70agBgAJ>
etc.

e.g., how Android users (adults almost all) respond to inconvenient facts:
Phablet stocking stuffers: iPhone 7 versus LG Stylo 3 Plus price/performance hardware comparison
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/ls71mnkj4jk/n0FaH2e_DQAJ>
&
What is your total cost of ownership of your phone, over five years?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/4PDpjLWFXXo/YtEMuyX5BAAJ>
&
When you plug in your phone to usb on your computer, does your file system mount on Windows 10?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/qxztHvQevDY/UBjlL-pGAAAJ>
etc.

e.g., how iOS users (babies almost all) respond to inconvenient facts:
How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over USB?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/1cnutJCVN88/0MtobmvQCAAJ>
&
How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/lJFrqXWvP1Y/RxyRizrSBAAJ>
&
Why does Apple (blue) "Mail" require iCloud backup just to send email?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/mHPakcqadMA/csgSjESfBAAJ>
etc.

e.g., how mac users (babies almost all) respond to inconvenient facts:
Can a Mac edit an iOS file over WiFi without iTunes existing on the Mac?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/qjSmqEa-P8k/khhfEbzBAAAJ>
&
Mac and iPhone both affected by big chip vulnerability
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/qqFQ7u_X73E/aVTOzRVKEQAJ>
&
How to mount the entire mobile device file system on the Mac
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/eCzpiE5MKBQ/97NoeIERAQAJ>
etc.

The observation is that, for decades, experiments show the Apple users
invariably act like little children when confronted with facts they don't
like, whereas the adult platform groups act exactly like adults act.

Why?
You tell me why.

My hypothesis is that facts scare Apple users.

--
Why are Apple users not like normal adults? I don't know why. I know that
it is, and it has always been. They are invariably children in all
respects. Just watch what they post in response to inconvenient facts.

[Ultred Harold Newton Ragnusen]

John McWilliams wrote:

> Out:
> misc.phone.mobile.iphone
> comp.mobile.ipad

Hi John McWilliams,

The phenomenon applies over the decades for /all/ the Apple newsgroups (see
proof below).

I only speak fact.

By way of proof, here are three threads posted to three platform
newsgroups, at about the same time with the exact same set of nyms, using
the same style, same screenshots, and most importantly, the same
inconvenient facts about the mother ship, whether she be Google, Microsoft,
or Apple.

*alt.comp.os.windows-10*
What is this strange new Windows file-system beast (wuaueng.dll)?
<http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103450>

*alt.os.linux*

What's a good way to back up Gmail when you've reached the size limit?

<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/6YHdHFcpGxs>

*comp.sys.mac.system*

Can a Mac edit an iOS file over WiFi without iTunes existing on the Mac?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/qjSmqEa-P8k/khhfEbzBAAAJ>

*comp.sys.mac.apps*
Apple Macs Have Yet Another Password-Bypassing Bug
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.apps/LkRCT6S5rZE/lC7GBlQVAQAJ>

*misc.phone.mobile.iphone*

How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/YtpKpDhWm_s/1z7AO3jQCAAJ>

*comp.mobile.ipad*

Why does Apple (blue) "Mail" require iCloud backup just to send email?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/mHPakcqadMA/csgSjESfBAAJ>

*comp.mobile.android*

When you plug in your phone to usb on your computer, does your file system mount on Windows 10?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/qxztHvQevDY/UBjlL-pGAAAJ>

Notice that the *adult* platform newsgroups handle the technical questions
of inconvenient facts like adults, but notice only the Apple newsgroup
responses are filled to the brim with childish drivel *always* written by
the Apple posters themselves (proof is in the threads).

Why do experiments easily prove Apple posters don't act like adults, while
the Windows, Linux, and (for the most part) Android posters do?

[B...@onramp.net]

There's more to life than Usenet. For goodness' sake find something
else to do with whatever time you have left on earth.

Plonk redux

[Ragnusen Ultred]

Am Sun, 25 Mar 2018 15:10:39 -0500, schrieb B...@Onramp.net:

> There's more to life than Usenet. For goodness' sake find something
> else to do with whatever time you have left on earth.

I think you bring up a good point by your post, BK@ONRamp, in that the
Apple user, has, for decades, been wholly ensconced inside the narrow
confines of the walled garden.

Hence, when that protected Apple user is exposed to the real world, they
act just like the protected children that they have are, since they
gravitated to the walled garden like flies to honey.

I thank you for your honesty, BK@atOnRamp, which is surprisingly astute for
someone like you, and for almost any of the Apple respondents, since most
of the time all you hear from the Apple posters is childish drivel.

Meanwhile, adults converse on the adult platform newsgroups, whether they
be Windows, Android, or Linux related - simply because adults gravitate
toward those far more functional platforms.

Proof positive is a simple comparison of the children and adults on these
two threads, made with the same nyms, same style, and same type of
inconvenient facts about the mothership...

*alt.comp.os.windows-10*

What is this strange new Windows file-system beast (C:\Windows\System32\wuaueng.dll)?
<http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103450>

*comp.sys.mac.system*
Can a Mac edit an iOS file over WiFi without iTunes existing on the Mac?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/qjSmqEa-P8k/khhfEbzBAAAJ>

The proof is that /every/ thread on the Apple newsgroups that asks
inconvenient facts, devolves /instantly/ into the childish drivel that
Apple posters have been polluting the Usenet with for decades.

Notice that the adult platform newsgroups react completely differently, and
like adults, to the /same/ type of questions!

This is a fact.

[Ultred Harold Newton Ragnusen]

Tim Streater wrote:

> No, you speak only bollocks. And that *is* a fact.

What would be interesting if I were back in my grad school days, would be
to write a thesis which explains the obvious pheenomenon that the pepole
who gravitate to the walled garden are like flies to honey.

They react angrily whenever someone tells them the truth about what turns
out to be a religious choice, and not a technological choice.

There can be no doubt in anyone's mind, for example, that there are zero
app functionalities on iOS that aren't already on Android, while the list
of app functionalities on Android that aren't on iOS is overwhelming (e.g.,
from something as simple as organizing a home screen the way you want it
organized to loading any app launcher to automatic phone recording to
torrenting to something as trivial as obtaining accurate available WiFi
signal strength AP graphs, or to something as important, at times, as
figuring out the exact celltower ID, particularly for the many of us who
have our own portable femtotowers inside our homes).

Given these are facts that only the Apple children refute but sans a shred
of evidence, much like a religious zealot refutes evolution sans a shred of
fact, it would be interesting to write a thesis that explains why the Apple
poster on Usenet has been, invariably, for decades, a child.

Why are almost all Apple posters children?

I don't know why.

I suspect the walled garden attracts children like honey attracts flies.

Why do the Apple posters react to valid facts with instant vitriol?

I don't know why.

I suspect facts threaten the entire underpinnings of their belief system.

Why can the adult platform newsgroups handle the /same/ inconvenient facts
that the Apple posters can't handle?

I think, overall, the Apple mentality, is that of a child, since they
gravitate to the walled garden like flies gravitate toward spoiled meat.

The Apple poster, I posit, can't handle the truth.
So they deny that which is fact.

Just look at these two similar threads made with the same style, the same
type of inconvenient facts, the same nyms, the same facts, etc...

*Apple Children*

*comp.mobile.ipad*
Why does Apple (blue) "Mail" require iCloud backup just to send email?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/mHPakcqadMA/csgSjESfBAAJ>

*Linux Adults*

[nospam]

In article <p99ev6$181$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Ultred Harold Newton

Ragnusen <Ultred...@HaroldRagnusen.edu> wrote:

>
> What would be interesting if I were back in my grad school days, would be
> to write a thesis which explains the obvious pheenomenon

what would be even more interesting would be if your advisor spell
checked it.

[Ultred Harold Newton Ragnusen]

nospam wrote:

> what would be even more interesting would be if your advisor spell
> checked it.

I admit that Usenet is an ad-hoc discussion medium where I'm sure I have
both typos and thinkos galore, as do you.

What is more important though is that you have to admit that Apple users
act like children do, almost instantly, in response to any facts that they
just don't like.

You have to admit this does not happen on the adult platform newsgroups.
It only happens on the Apple related newsgroups.

Why?
I suspect that the mentality of the Apple user is quite different from a
normal adult, in that they gravitate to a less-functional
far-more-restrictive platform on purpose.

*Take this instant-child just-add-water Apple Apologists' response just now
to a simple factual thread today.*

*A massive security hole has been found in iOS 11*
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/coCAgTSDfhU/c9jpNI35BwAJ>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.ipad/coCAgTSDfhU>

Notice that every Apple respondent save for "Ant", acted as an "instant
child" in response to a mere statement of fact.

Why do the Apple posters instantly respond to inconvenient facts as
children do?

I don't know why.

But it would be an interesting thesis, much like that which Dunning and
Kruger assembled on self-assessment of skills.

The fact is ...
There has to be something different about the Apple buyer in general that
shows up in the fact they act like children do when confronted with mere
facts.

It doesn't matter what fact is presented to the Apple users.

If the fact is inconvenient to their belief system, it's instantly met with
denials, blame, incrimination, and hate-filled vitriol.

And yet, those same or similar facts on the adult newsgroups is handled
just as adults handle inconvenient facts.

Why is it that only the Apple newsgroups are filled to the brim with
children?

You tell me.
I only know what is a fact.

[Steven Petruzzellis]

At times, fantasy is more valuable than reality.

You can say I am vallor for all I care. vallor wants to punish the whole group: If he can't get attention here then no one will. Honestly, those of you who troll are not able to check Debian anymore.

Another successful "thumb drive install" test. That is if you count wasting time as a success.

vallor is ten seconds away from being in everyone's kill filter.

vallor gets off on that RonB is on the other end. Imagine if vallor walked up to a wall and delivered the punch line. It wouldn't be amusing. At one point, he said an online denizen was "obsessing" over him, which was identified as him using his flood script to "boost" his "mentions" count.

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[Ragnusen Ultred]

Am Mon, 26 Mar 2018 09:09:08 +0000, schrieb Tim Streater:

> Your VD still causing you to spout bollocks I see.

Notice how the Apple Apologist Tim Streater reacts to mere facts.

If I were back in my grad school days, I'd be interested in writing a paper
much like what the Dunning-Kruger team did, where I'd analyze people's
proven actions, such as what Tim Streater just did, to characterize what's
different about them from normal adults.

It seems Team Streater constantly reacts to facts with childish hateful
vitriol.

Why is Tim Streator so childishly hateful toward the bearer of a mere fact?

I don't know why.

I posit that perhaps Tim Streater is afraid of facts, so his childish
hateful vitriol is merely his response to the threat that facts present to
his belief system.

Why?

I don't know why.

I posit that Tim Streater's entire belief system is not built upon facts
like those of normal adults, but of a religious argument that is apparently
threatened by facts.

Hence, I posit, mere facts threaten Tim Streater's entire belief system.

That doesn't explain why Tim Streater always reacts as a child would, by
calling people fifth-grade potty-mouthed names, but it explains why Tim
Streater is so afraid of facts.

Why do the Apple Apologists, Jolly Roger, Tim Streater, Alan Baker, etc.,
always use childish fifth-grade potty-mouthed insults to the bearer of
fact?

I don't know why.

Maybe you can answer that Tim Streater?

Why do you consistently react to facts with nothing more than a childish
potty-mouthed vocabulary?

What is it about facts that makes you so hateful toward the bearer of
facts?

I'm interesting in you Tim Streater because you give me an insight into the
mind of the average Apple user, where you must admit, Apple users chose the
platform like flies gravitate to honey - so you're not like normal adults
on the other platform newsgroups, who don't act like you do.

So the proof is obvious that you're different Tim Streater, than normal
adults.

Please continue to help me understand how.

[Doc O'Leary]

For your reference, records indicate that

Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:

> No, you speak only bollocks. And that *is* a fact.

And you feed the troll, making the newsgroup worse for the rest of us.
Stop it. This is Usenet; use your killfile. If you don’t, you leave
some of us little choice but to put you in ours.

--
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

[Steven Petruzzellis]

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If you call getting your ass *kicked hard* left and right every single day by numerous people (and completely trashing your reputation and any reason for anyone to trust anything you have to say - forever) 'trolling', then yeah... he was a good troll. I don't personally subscribe to that definition, I use another term, I call that person a total idiot.

> He's lost that ability. Probably too many bad drugs.

He's toned down all the zillions of narcissistic, BS threads he used to create but he's really not much different in the honesty dept. He just uses socks more now to create those threads. Not that there weren't already plenty of reasons to suspect this ridiculous sock as coming from Snit but this thread shows that he's slipping in this respect:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/cTXTtY57SjM/n9mXLZpIVXoJ

I was being given GPG info and help by owl and we were both pretty much ignoring Snit all the way through. So who appears, who hadn't posted in a couple of days and then only posted to that thread on that day after Snit got tired of being ignored?
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[Ultred Harold Newton Ragnusen]

Doc O'Leary wrote:

> And you feed the troll, making the newsgroup worse for the rest of us.

> Stop it. This is Usenet; use your killfile. If you don┤, you leave

> some of us little choice but to put you in ours.

I love how the Apple users consistently react to mere facts by closing
their eyes and ears, while on the adult newsgroups, people accept facts,
inconvenient as they may be.

For example, this was posted today, and nobody plonked it, but if something
like this were to be posted to an Apple newsgroup, cries of troll and
"killfile them all" would be screamed throughout Apple land.

What is an effective way to tun off Windows 10 updates until YOU want them back on?
<http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103500>

[Wolffan]

On 24Mar 2018, Ultred Harold Newton Ragnusen wrote
(in article <p964o5$q3k$1...@news.mixmin.net>):

> [snip it all]
Assuming that everything you posted is true,,, why don’t you just leave the
children be and go and have adult conversations elsewhere? Why are you
wasting your valuable, adult, time?

[Ultred Harold Newton Ragnusen]

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 09:40:23 -0400, in comp.sys.mac.system,
comp.sys.mac.apps, misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.ipad you wrote:

> Assuming that everything you posted is true,,, why don¢t you just leave the
> children be and go and have adult conversations elsewhere? Why are you
> wasting your valuable, adult, time?

This is a good question, where you might ask Gregor Mendel why he wasted
his valuable time on a bunch of peas, or why Myers-Briggs wasted their time
on a bunch of personalities, or why Kinsey wasted time on a bunch of sexual
perverts.

I am always supremely interested in what makes the Apple user different
from normal adults.

I just ran an experiment, for example, which is still in progress, where I
didn't mention a thing about Apple products, and yet, /still/ only the
Apple posters acted like children.

I'll give you the URLs later as this experiment is still in the works - but
it proves that even asking a simple question /always/ brings out the little
child in the Apple user.

Why are the Apple posters on Usenet such children?

I don't know why.

But, as you know, I have an hypothesis which I am testing out with every
post, and where the Apple children are remarkably consistent in how they
respond to adult questions that are asked of the other adult newsgroups.

Only on the Apple newsgroup, does every question prove that the Apple
posters are mere children. I think that's extremely interesting, don't you?

[Wolffan]

On 27Mar 2018, Ultred Harold Newton Ragnusen wrote
(in article <p9eevh$9tq$1...@news.mixmin.net>):

> This is a good question, where you might ask Gregor Mendel why he wasted
> his valuable time on a bunch of peas, or why Myers-Briggs wasted their time
> on a bunch of personalities, or why Kinsey wasted time on a bunch of sexual
> perverts.

I see. So you’re a researcher of the stature of Mendel et al, eh? Ah-ha.
Right. That disposes of the question of whether or not to pay the least
attention to you. Bye, now.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

Am Tue, 27 Mar 2018 19:28:39 -0400, schrieb Wolffan:

> I see. So you¢re a researcher of the stature of Mendel et al, eh? Ah-ha.
> Right. That disposes of the question of whether or not to pay the least
> attention to you. Bye, now.

Actually, it's more like what Dunning and Kruger did.

Remember, I've been on Usenet as long as anyone has, where the child-like
responses from the Apple posters has /always/ mirrored exactly what Apple
*MARKETING* wanted them to think.

From the days when there actually were fewer apps on Android, and when
Windows did crash a lot, the Apple poster has had no original thought other
than what Apple MARKETING fed them.

For example, even today, when it's clear that Apple products aren't tested
sufficiently for security vulnerabilities, the Apple poster mantra is that
the more releases, the /safer/ they feel.

You hear this slavish repetition of Apple *MARKETING* mantra every time
nospam says that we have to worry about state-sponsored adversaries who
will go frontal on our encryption, when, in reality, as proven just this
week, all you have to do is speak softly and the iOS device turns into an
instant privacy blabbermouth.

So my interest is much like that of David Dunning and Justin Kruger where,
as I understand the dynamic, they wondered how McArthur Wheeler could
possibly assess his own skill set so badly for robbing banks.

It's with the same wonderment of Dunning and Kruger that I hold for the
Apple poster on these newsgroups, where, even as we speak, I'm running an
experiment completely outside of the operating system, where, yet again,
only the Apple posters are acting like little children do.

Hence, it's with supreme wonderment that I analyze the very fact that Apple
posters are not like normal adults.

That you don't find that fact interesting is fine - but there's nothing
wrong with me trying to better understand the decidedly child-like mind of
the average Apple poster on these newsgroups.

[*Hemidactylus*]

There’s some bizarre tropes rearing their heads on this newsgroup. Two
separate ones on this thread alone. Makes the group effectively unreadable.
Maybe that’s the point. I mostly lurk here anymore and not that often due
to crappy s-n ratio. The trolls are winning. Sad.

[Jolly Roger]

It's all the same nym-shifting asshole - some of his recent nyms:

Paul B. Andersen
Adair Bordon
Liam O'Connor
Juan Camilo Blanco
Alphonse Arnaud
Danny D.
Vinny Perado
Whitney Ryan
Tony Cito
Adam H. Kerman
Werner Obermeier
Steven Bornfeld
Winston_Smith
Mitch Kaufmann
Paul M. Cook
E. Robinson
Alice J.
P. Ng
Tam Nguyen
VPN user
Joe Clock
Marob Katon
Chris Rangoon
AArdvarks
Conradt
Gustl Hoffmann
Henry Jones
Tatsuki Takahashi
AL
Horace Algier
Karl Schultz
Arthur Conan Doyle
Algeria Horan
Raymond Spruance III
Martin Chuzzlewit II
John Harmon
Yanis Bernard
Stijn De Jong
Abe Swanson
Misha Vasiliev
Tomos Davies
Chaya Eve
Lionel Muller
Roy Tremblay
Frank S
Chaya Eve
Blake Snyder
harry newton
Harold Newton
ultred ragnusen
Ragnusen Ultred
Wilf
Erholt Rhein
Anonymous

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[*Hemidactylus*]

WTF is going on with this group? There’s some really obnoxious OT shit
going down beyond what our resident nymshifting Apple hater is doing. Seems
some sort of Linux oriented Dadaism or Jackson Pollock splattering all over
the place. Can’t really make sense of it.

[Lewis]

I kill crossposts from linux groups, so I don't see any of that shit.


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[Steven Petruzzellis]

Here are some of the scripted posts from Jonas Eklundh... the script adds a nonsense or irrelevant insult or accusation after most sentences and adds numbers to the text so he can better track his trolling:

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.advocacy/RZtEyvJr8HI/VcEqOk2qCgAJ> or <https://goo.gl/67NLfr>.

You can see a run of three scripted flood posts from his primary account.

From: Sandman <m...@sandman.net>
Message-ID: <sandman-b7df8761d3b6...@individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net +MPBYFbnugFd2iPraU5I9ABV/5ZlNHtqj79Ij19mAYCfL5sHI=
User-Agent: Sandmania 2.0

He also has them elsewhere, here are some examples:

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.advocacy/Xetqyi1T0F0/cvoqp3eqCgAJ> OR <https://goo.gl/jy0rsr>.

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.advocacy/10d0Emx_ABk/eN0r1_epCgAJ> OR <https://goo.gl/Rkz0PO>.

On that one he has a run of two.

And a longer and clearly scripted, content-free flood post:

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.advocacy/2WS3xlecnw8/lizfGLOnCgAJ> OR <https://goo.gl/t7cTHd>.

And even more!

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.advocacy/cYutxNP1hWc/KZikieXECgAJ> OR <https://goo.gl/Z6G7Ic>

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.advocacy/RZtEyvJr8HI/6sJfxaDECgAJ> OR <https://goo.gl/mTXlFt>

Lots more but that is enough to prove the point multiple times over. Sandman has been flooding not just with his Google accounts but with his standard account. ALL of those come from the same source I listed above and it is Sandman's standard account.

Jonas Eklundh: busted.

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[nospam]

In article <slrnpbm4cs....@Snow.local>, Lewis
<g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> > WTF is going on with this group? Therešs some really obnoxious OT shit

> > going down beyond what our resident nymshifting Apple hater is doing. Seems
> > some sort of Linux oriented Dadaism or Jackson Pollock splattering all over

> > the place. Canšt really make sense of it.

>
> I kill crossposts from linux groups, so I don't see any of that shit.

it's not being crossposted to linux groups.

[Steven Petruzzellis]

Autumn Nissen <https://www.instantcheckmate.com/people/autumn-nissen> wants to punish everyone here: If Autumn Nissen <https://www.instantcheckmate.com/people/autumn-nissen> can't get attention here then nobody will.

I guess this is what arises when really poor self esteem takes over Autumn Nissen <https://www.instantcheckmate.com/people/autumn-nissen>'s worldview.

Fool! So what's Autumn Nissen <https://www.instantcheckmate.com/people/autumn-nissen>'s poison for the flooding deluge? mySQL? That is the only database he knows, and it is a joke. He must be abusing it to create these stupid "flooding" posts. Educated theory, Autumn Nissen <https://www.instantcheckmate.com/people/autumn-nissen> took a FireFox extension that he hacked and took credit for... he is feeding it Tatiana Spearman's posts, grabbing offensive paragraphs, then mangling those using the Bellman–Ford algorithm and then he actively posts them because his insanity enables him to do that essentially constantly.

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[Lewis]

In message <280320180625191402%nos...@nospam.invalid> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <slrnpbm4cs....@Snow.local>, Lewis
> <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> > WTF is going on with this group? There¹s some really obnoxious OT shit

>> > going down beyond what our resident nymshifting Apple hater is doing. Seems
>> > some sort of Linux oriented Dadaism or Jackson Pollock splattering all over

>> > the place. Can¹t really make sense of it.

>>
>> I kill crossposts from linux groups, so I don't see any of that shit.

> it's not being crossposted to linux groups.

Ah, well, there must be other reasons I am not seeing these messages. I
do have a lot of filters in place to kill the shit posts.


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Am Wed, 28 Mar 2018 15:35:28 -0000 (UTC), schrieb Lewis:

> Ah, well, there must be other reasons I am not seeing these messages. I
> do have a lot of filters in place to kill the shit posts.

Since any thread Lewis infests is destroyed the moment he enters it (since
he's incapable of adding on-topic technical value), I should point out this
post moments ago to nospam, who also destroys any technical thread he
infests, and where Lewis' child-like posts are spoken about...


Am Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:39:01 -0400, schrieb nospam:

> troll attempt confirmed.

I only speak valid verified fact that any adult can verify for himself.

What's confirmed, time and again, is that once any of the Apple-based
child-like posters, such as you, nosmap, and Jolly Roger, Lewis, BK@OnRamp,
Alan Baker, Tim Streator, etc. infest a technical-question thread, it's
dead.

Witness, for example, the *immense* progress the Windows adults made on the
same question, by the same poster, at the same time, with many excellent
technical questions and answers resolved by adults.
Can Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts?
<http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103517>

On the adult platform newsgroup, we not only proved out all the necessary
steps, the adults there also found where to get the AI software (apparently
for free but I need to doublecheck that), with a valid Windows license,
using the valid free TT fonts, and outputing and inputting the right file
formats, and running the requisite steps inside the free AI tool suite:
1. Import the AI format file into AI CS2
2. Use the CutContour command
3. Use the embedded fonts
4. Print to vinyl

On the Mac group, which, for decades, has been proven time and again to be
filled to the brim with child-like responses to any technical question they
don't like, the valid technical question wouldn't likely have received a
*single* purposefully helpful technical answer, and as a result of the
children who are proven time and again to infest the Apple newsgroups, the
thread would have been miles long, getting nowhere, as this simple Mac
question recently was.

Can a Mac edit an iOS file over WiFi without iTunes existing on the Mac?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/qjSmqEa-P8k/khhfEbzBAAAJ>

What's going on?
I don't know, but it seems that simply asking a technical question that
Apple users don't like results in them purposefully destroying the thread
with their childish rants.

Examples abound where this thread simply supplies valid verified proof:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/HS86K5NJBgU/zcn_LvqcBgAJ>

Notice, as that thread proves, on the Windows and Linux newsgroups, we ask
the same questions as we ask on the Apple newsgropus, and lo and behold,
adults answer the same question by *purposfully* providing helpful answers.

Fancy that.
It's only the select set of, admittedly prolific, Apple posters, who, over
the decades, have proven time and again that they're incapable of handling
technical questions they don't like, as adults would.

There is so much proof on the net that these Apple-based half-dozen or so
posters purposfully ruin any technical thread they don't like, that you may
as well assume any thread that they, or you infest, is dead the moment you
join it.

Like what happened to this thread, the moment you joined it.

Luckily, adults are proven to exist on the other newsgroups, so fantastic
technical progress was made despite the child-like Apple posters that you
represent.

Proof positive is here:
Can Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts?
<http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103517>

[Ragnusen Ultred]

Am 28 Mar 2018 02:03:52 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:

> It's all the same nym-shifting asshole - some of his recent nyms:

Privacy has been explained to Jolly Roger, but he's incapable of
understanding any adult issue because he has proven himself to own the mind
of a child as has Joerg Lorenz, who is currently trolling the Windows
newsgroups.

I only speak facts.

What's in common here, is that neither has any intention of adding
purposefully helpful technical content, and, in most cases, they can't.

And yet, they still troll.

Witness this which happened just now...

Am Fri, 30 Mar 2018 20:37:59 +0200, schrieb Joerg Lorenz:

> Nobody said anything like that.
>
> I use more than one server as well but no anonymous servers.
>
> news-out.google.com
> news.netfront.net and
> aioe.org
>
> are responsible for a vast majority of troll postings in the usenet.
>
> Joerg

I've been on the Usenet for decades, where I've interacted with the poster
Joerg Lorenz quite a few times, where he has often proven he has the
stunted mental acuity of a child.

I only speak facts.

Hear me out, as I present the facts, where this Joerg /never/ adds
technical on-topic value to /any/ thread he posts to.

All he does is call everyone else a troll.

And what does he base his accusations upon?

He thinks that the mere fact that someone wants privacy means they're a
troll.

I've told him already, in other newsgroups where he trolls his accusations
left and right, that this is like saying all Blacks are criminals, simply
because they're black, all Italians are in the mob, simply because the mob
is comprised of a lot of Italians, all Jews are greedy simply because some
greedy people are Jews, all Germans are racist simply because some Germans
have committed hate crimes, etc.

What Joerg fails to understand is that a troll has to troll to be
considered a troll. That simple fact is compltely lost on Joerg, and he'll
never get it - simply because of two facts he's proven time and again.

1. He can't add technical on-topic value to /any/ thread topic, and,
2. He considers anyone wanting privacy to be a troll,
(where he's the troll, in actuality).

Want proof?

This is Joerg's 1st response to an on-topic question in a newsgroup:
"[I have no answer to the question]
I only know the idiot who wants to know it ..."
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/sgzGVamjKU0/bWXHKhH3AAAJ>
Q: Is it on topic? (Answer = ?)
Q: Does it add value? (Answer = ?)
Q: Is it something the mind of a child would say? (Answer = ?)

This is Joerg's 2nd response when responded to by an adult:
"Only anonymous *idiots* are using anonymous news-servers.
Your header: Path:
eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/sgzGVamjKU0/xj2X4Wn9AAAJ>

This is Joerg's 3rd response when headers were explained to him:
"you are simply a big mouth. "
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/sgzGVamjKU0/UmK7yflFAQAJ>

Joerg's 4th response responding to the proven troll, Frank Slootweg:
"+1"
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/sgzGVamjKU0/AmUPwr5ZAQAJ>

I can go on proving two points but this should be sufficient for adults:
1. Joerg never adds on-topic technical value to any thread, and,
2. Joerg calls everyone else a troll simply because they desire privacy.

The adults on this newsgroup don't have to believe me ... where all I ask
is for them to ponder whether those verifiable facts above of about a half
dozen posts plus another half dozen responses trying to explain facts to
Joerg Lorenz (all wasted effort, by the way), added /any/ on-topic
technical value to the thread?

So that I'm not guilty of the same childish games that Joerg plays, I've
already proven two points, where I want to once more tell Joerg the
on-topic technical admonition that simply wanting privacy does not make a
person a troll.

In fact, Joerg clearly is guilty of exactly what he accuses everyone else
of being, simply because his posts /never/ add any on-topic value to any
thread.

Just watch...

[Ragnusen Ultred]

Am Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:17:42 -0000 (UTC), schrieb Ultred Harold Newton
Ragnusen:

> My hypothesis is that facts scare Apple users.

That hypothesis is wrong, since even asking about a 'cable strain relief'
(for heaven's sake), brings out the children in the Apple users!

Proof below.

Am Thu, 29 Mar 2018 08:48:34 -0400, schrieb Mayayana:

> Please cross-post if necessary, rather than multi-posting.
> Your question is being answered in the Win10 group. The
> consensus seems to be:
>
> Convert the PPT to PDF. (In MS Office, or failing that,
> in Libre Office.)
>
> Import the PDF into Illustrator.

Hi Mayayana,

By now, you realize why you can't have any Apple users on any thread where
you actually expect three things:
a. Technical competency
b. Purposefully helpful responses
c. On-topic technical responses

Over the past two decades, that maxim has held out in spades, where recent
experiments show that it doesn't even matter /what/ the topic is, if the
Apple users are involved, it devolves instantly into childish drivel.

I was wrong when I thought the Apple children just didn't like facts that
were 'inconvenient' for them, such as anything truthful about either iOS or
the Mac OS.

I know this because I ran an experiment earlier this week about cable
strain relief, where I purposefully asked the same question, not as me, of
a set of non-Apple newsgroups, and a set of Apple newsgroups.

Remember, this experiment was about a cable strain relief, for heaven's
sake, which shouldn't /threaten/ the Apple posters in the least - and yet -
as always - the Apple posters alone destroyed the thread!

*Experiment showing the more Apple posters, the more unhelpful garbage*
From: Erholt Rhein
Title: What do you use as a USB cable strain relief?
Newsgroups: alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Proof: <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/RDTYTGMX_iM/SQmXbIRuBAAJ>

*Experiment showing lack of Apple posters always comes to a helpful solution!*
From: Erholt Rhein
Title: What do you use as a USB cable strain relief?
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair,comp.mobile.android,alt.home.repair
Proof: <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.home.repair/bzlhAN_xYOM/OP7iFPBeAgAJ>

The proof is astoundingly reliable over the decades, that no matter what
technical question is asked, if Apple posters are involved, the thread will
almost never come to a technical solution - while if you eliminate the
Apple posters, you almost always come to a great solution.

Like all experiments that involve the Apple newsgroups, only the Apple
thread went to hell in a hand basket instantly, simply because when gnats
buzz a picnic, they will /always/ ruin the thread.

Sure, you can attempt to swat away the Apple gnats, or you can try to
ignore them, but the moment these Apple parasites find your picnic, the
thread is as good as ruined already.

Since I only speak valid facts verifiable by any sentient adult, here are
the links to that simple non-operating-system related experiment.

Apple posters posting incessant drivel to the simplest of questions:
Adult posters posting purposefully helpful answers to the same questions:

As just another pertinent example that the Apple posters have no intention
to ever be helpful, nor can they be helpful, just look at this simple
summary from the /same/ thread topic, where the difference between the lack
of technical competence on this newsgroup versus the adult newsgroup is
stellar.

High purposefully unhelpful ratio:
*Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?*
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.photo.digital/zdVFRNwhdA8/UXTcwOiUBgAJ>

High purposefully helpful ratio:
*Can Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts?*
<http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103517>

*** *** *Summary of the progress on the _adult_ newsgroups* *** *** ***
0. The best format, by far, for output from PowerPoint 2007 to suck into
Adobe Illustrator is PDF, particularly a PDF with the entire embedded font
set, simply because the /native/ format of Adobe Illustrator /is/ PDF.

1. A screenshot of the template, where the users are instructed they can
change anything but the last line (the ordinance legalities) and the
outside border. For example, if they want to draw a picture, they can, but
nobody bothered. They all just changed the text, which is why PowerPoint is
the right tool for that job.
<http://i.cubeupload.com/pK8NQE.gif>

2. The powerpoint 2007 file with the entire font set embedded.
<http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/H5GDdHA1/file.html>

3. The PDF output from PowerPoint, with the entire font set embedded.
<http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/abXkQMAN/file.html>

4. The entire "Roadgeek Series B Regular" font set, where distribution
requires only that the copyright notice be kept intact.
<http://www.fontspace.com/michael-d-adams/roadgeek-2005>

5. Free licensed copy of Adobe Illustrator:
<https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4948-adobe-creative-suite-free.html>

6. Instructions for importing PDF into Adobe Illustrator:
How to edit PDF files in Adobe Illustrator
<http://blog.globalizationpartners.com/using-pdf-in-illustrator-when-source-files-are-lost.aspx>

Search archived for leverage at:
<http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10>
*** *** *Summary of the progress on the _adult_ newsgroups* *** *** ***

More proof positive of the same purposefully uhhelpful posts when Apple
respondents are involved is provided in this factual summary thread:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/HS86K5NJBgU/zcn_LvqcBgAJ>

[nospam]

In article <p9mlnm$d1q$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Ragnusen Ultred

<rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:

> Am Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:17:42 -0000 (UTC), schrieb Ultred Harold Newton
> Ragnusen:
>
> > My hypothesis is that facts scare Apple users.
>
> That hypothesis is wrong, since even asking about a 'cable strain relief'
> (for heaven's sake), brings out the children in the Apple users!

trollboi is talking to himself again.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

Am Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:58:58 -0400, schrieb nospam:

> trollboi is talking to himself again.

What's interesting is you prove my point in every post that,
a. The Apple users overwhelmingly have no technical value to add, and,
b. They just guess, as you do, which has an error rate of a monkey, and,
c. They, like you, have zero intent to be helpful.

Meanwhile, on the groups that Apple users do NOT infest, the exact same
questions almost always come up with adult responses and almost always
excellent solutions.

What's different?
Only one thing.

The Apple poster, like nospam, is basically incapable of acting like an
adult should.

Just watch.

[nospam]

In article <p9nbnp$hfd$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Ragnusen Ultred

<rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:

>
> > trollboi is talking to himself again.
>
> What's interesting is you prove my point in every post that,

that you are a troll.

actually you prove it yourself. i just highlight it.

[*Hemidactylus*]

And wants ANOTHER iOS newsgroup in which to indulge in such behavior. Sad.

[Steven Petruzzellis]

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One thing that I have never seen spoofed is the Google acct. number so perhaps you can use it as a filtering criteria, too. Here's mine:

posting-account=qzPusQoAAADVdKNEKE-jqIVbecHp7oZ7

My gmail posts go back to 2009 (that I've seen, crackhead's forgeries using gmail only go back to 2012). Notice the posting acct. number on this response matches this post from 2009:

<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/C9FwjiytRoA/ftc2GG7-37AJ>

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