How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?

[Ragnusen Ultred]

Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?
A: Install the freeware Simple Transfer app on the iPad.
http://rambax.com/simpletransfer

While the half-dozen Apple Apologists love to suggest utterly useless
proprietary methods they know to not actually work in the real world, I'm
setting up the simplest way to transfer movies, photos, & screenshots from
a new iOS 11.x iPad to both Windows & Linux over the Wi-Fi LAN without
installing anything on the Windows/Linux desktop

For many good reasons, not the least of which is that the iTunes
abomination doesn't work in the real world, this method will not employ the
abomination that is iTunes, nor can any method in the real world use the
vaunted AirDrop(tm) brand of ad-hoc file-transfer services simply because
that vaunted AirDrop(tm) brand of ad-hoc file-transfer services also does
not work in the real world.

However, this freeware solution worked just fine in the real world,
although it's not as nice a solution as the far better unrestricted
solutions that Android devices naturally employ.

1. On the iOS 11.x iPad, I installed the free unrestricted (AFAIK) "Simple
Transfer - Photo+Video", by Rambax, LLC
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/simple-transfer-photo-video/id420821506
where you can transfer your photos & videos as a single archive file
to/from Linux/Windows using a web browser pointed to
http://simpletransfer.rambax.com
which is on your local LAN (e.g., http://192.168.1.14).
http://i.cubeupload.com/aiCDCT.jpg

2. This "Simple Transfer" app worked on iOS 11 to copy photo/video files
from the iPad to Linux/Windows, where has various switches to make
selection and filtering easy, with the result being a single "All
Photos.zip" file on your Windows or Linux desktop without needing to
install anything on the Windows or Linux desktop.

3. To easily copy photo/video files in the other direction from
Linux/Windows to the iPad over the WiFi LAN, I slid the files from the
desktop onto the open browser above and they copied over to the iPad with a
message on the iPad popping up saying it "Received test_photo.jpg".

I'll try a few other methods, but this method works nicely and, far better
than iTunes or that vaunted AirDrop(tm) brand of ad-hoc file services, it
actually works in the real world (aka it works outside the walled garden).

In summary,
Q: What is one way to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?
A: Install the unrestricted (AFAIK) freeware Simple Transfer app on the iPad.
http://rambax.com/simpletransfer

[nospam]

In article <p7ugor$2kl$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?
> A: Install the freeware

no need to install anything.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:090320181250467368%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

>> Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?
>> A: Install the freeware
>
> no need to install anything.

You constantly say to use "AirDrop" or "iTunes", both of which you /know/
don't come native with Windows/Linux, and both of which you know don't work
in the real world.

[nospam]

In article <p7uhqv$mbk$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

>
> >> Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?
> >> A: Install the freeware
> >
> > no need to install anything.
>
> You constantly say to use "AirDrop" or "iTunes", both of which you /know/
> don't come native with Windows/Linux, and both of which you know don't work
> in the real world.

nope. i've repeatedly listed *numerous* methods, all of which will work
with windows, linux, *bsd and others.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:090320181311271840%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

>> You constantly say to use "AirDrop" or "iTunes", both of which you /know/
>> don't come native with Windows/Linux, and both of which you know don't work
>> in the real world.
>
> nope. i've repeatedly listed *numerous* methods, all of which will work
> with windows, linux, *bsd and others.

Your silly games help nobody where suggested methods have to actually work
in the real world to count as a solution.

Moving forward, I'm testing the following methods, most of which are over
Wi-Fi (since USB just works, at least one way).
http://i.cubeupload.com/t6ybUj.jpg

For example, I easily moved a movie back and forth as a test case over WiFi
simply by dragging and dropping as shown below.
http://i.cubeupload.com/t6ybUj.jpg

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p7v3eo$1llm$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> Your silly games help nobody where suggested methods have to actually work
> in the real world to count as a solution.

Moving on, I quickly tested next the MarkDisk app.
http://i.cubeupload.com/U1BgEh.jpg

It shares over HTTP Wi-Fi like most of the others (where FTP is always
better than HTTP for a whole bunch of good reasons with respect to
flexibility) but what it does differently is it goes from Windows/Linux to
iOS
http://i.cubeupload.com/i3hYu2.jpg

You could upload to either "Books", "Photos", "Documents", or "Movies" so I
decided to upload a PDF to Documents and the 1975 movie "Rocky Horror
Picture Show" to Movies just to see if the size limit hit, but they didn't
hit, so that's good.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Y4WMjm.jpg

One limitation, which shows up on long file transfers, is that the app has
to be running in the foreground the whole time. But it did download an
entire movie.

Another limitiation is that it's one file at a time, it seems, but, the
great new is that it works in the direction which seems to be missing from
the other apps, which is it RECEIVES files on the iOS device from
Linux/Winodws.
http://i.cubeupload.com/wmwOpH.jpg

So MarkDisk is a keeper, at least for now, because it puts files on iOS
from Windows/Linux.
http://i.cubeupload.com/B4yyHu.jpg

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p800p0$t17$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> So MarkDisk is a keeper, at least for now, because it puts files on iOS
> from Windows/Linux.
> http://i.cubeupload.com/B4yyHu.jpg

The next app to be tested was "iFamilyShare".
http://i.cubeupload.com/wVZs8r.jpg

iFamilyShare bombed out the moment I tried to turn on the "Send Videos and
WiFi Share" button, asking for money up front for such a basic task.
http://i.cubeupload.com/XxyttZ.jpg

When I tried to transfer photos, a full-screen ad popped up, which is a
killer as no app should /ever/ do that. Any app that does, is worthless.
http://i.cubeupload.com/gCScdZ.jpg

Worse, the "Find Devices" tab couldn't find existing devices on the net,
so, my quick conclusion is to throw out the app and move on.
http://i.cubeupload.com/55878j.jpg

So, after only a bit of use, I'd say iFamilyShare is a bust.
http://i.cubeupload.com/ARHc3K.jpg

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p802fs$vkv$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> So, after only a bit of use, I'd say iFamilyShare is a bust.
> http://i.cubeupload.com/ARHc3K.jpg

Next app to be tested is "uDisk".
http://i.cubeupload.com/iEyDto.jpg

This appears to be an HTTP server using port 1986.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Oj5Zyq.jpg

One thing uDisk did was it zipped a set of photos from the camera roll, so,
if you need a zipped file from iOS to iOS, I guess that's one way to do it,
but it's not all that useful since you can zip things a million ways.
http://i.cubeupload.com/qRtdBz.jpg

Other than zipping the files on iOS, uDisk didn't do anything any other
http daemon didn't do with respect to copying files from iOS to the
Windows/Linux destop over the WiFi LAN.
http://i.cubeupload.com/hIqt96.jpg

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p803pl$11lv$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> Other than zipping the files on iOS, uDisk didn't do anything any other
> http daemon didn't do with respect to copying files from iOS to the
> Windows/Linux destop over the WiFi LAN.
> http://i.cubeupload.com/hIqt96.jpg

Another classic HTTP server was File Master.
http://i.cubeupload.com/HBvMq7.jpg

Within seconds, it came up with a full-screen obnoxious ad.
http://i.cubeupload.com/MaUP5F.jpg

Any full-screen ad instantly kills it as an app, even though it /also/ has
smaller ads inside the ap.
http://i.cubeupload.com/XGPU9c.jpg

A quick look before deleting it shows it didn't do anything special anyway.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p8049c$12fo$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> A quick look before deleting it shows it didn't do anything special anyway.

The MyFileExplorer app does do something special.
http://i.cubeupload.com/5cCjY8.jpg

MFExplorer is both an FTP and an HTTP server at the same time.
http://i.cubeupload.com/h3kFWE.jpg

Being an FTP server means we can use the native Windows File Explorer or
Ubuntu Nautilus file explorer to see files on the iPad over WiFi.
http://i.cubeupload.com/hmxM2i.jpg

And, it worked in /both/ directions, to/from the Windows/Linux computer.
http://i.cubeupload.com/iPE1k1.jpg

So unless in longer term testing this MyFileExplorer tool has an unseen yet
fault, this one is definitely a keeper as it was the first program that did
what we were asking for!

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p805bj$146m$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> So unless in longer term testing this MyFileExplorer tool has an unseen yet
> fault, this one is definitely a keeper as it was the first program that did
> what we were asking for!

Next app tested was WiFi Album Free.
http://i.cubeupload.com/ADrz1V.jpg

This app was a bust in that it started off in portrait mode even though I
was in landscape mode, and then it turned out to just be an http server.
http://i.cubeupload.com/2uli0m.jpg

But worse, it required Flash, which none of the other apps required to
date.
http://i.cubeupload.com/bNY27j.jpg

So it's trash.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p805qi$150c$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> But worse, it required Flash, which none of the other apps required to
> date.
> http://i.cubeupload.com/bNY27j.jpg

Next app was "file Bus No. 9", which at least has a unique name.
http://i.cubeupload.com/uzT3GO.jpg

I selected a half dozen pictures to upload via "WiFi Drive URL Access"
which was just a fancy name for an http server on port 80.
http://i.cubeupload.com/BAjjmU.jpg

Wham! Full-screen ad popped up. So it's dead meat instantly.
http://i.cubeupload.com/mFJSew.jpg

But, before I trashed it, I at least ascertained that it copies files both
ways to and from the computer via HTTP, but it popped up another
full-screen ad while I was doing that, so it's gone forever.
http://i.cubeupload.com/l4QjxS.jpg

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p806bt$15nv$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> But, before I trashed it, I at least ascertained that it copies files both
> ways to and from the computer via HTTP, but it popped up another
> full-screen ad while I was doing that, so it's gone forever.
> http://i.cubeupload.com/l4QjxS.jpg

Next app to test is "FSharing"
http://i.cubeupload.com/iSnkPz.jpg

It too came up in portrait mode even though I was in landscape, so that's
generally a really bad sign of poor coding.

But the moment I tried to transfer a photo, it popped up the pay-me-now
dialog, so it's dead on arrival.
http://i.cubeupload.com/aZ9kV9.jpg

Besides, it popped up full-screen ads, which is another indicator of its
status that it belongs in the trash heap.
http://i.cubeupload.com/6zuXtp.jpg

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p806or$16en$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> Besides, it popped up full-screen ads, which is another indicator of its
> status that it belongs in the trash heap.
> http://i.cubeupload.com/6zuXtp.jpg

The next app is the familiar "WiFi Photo" which I left for last because
we're familiar with it from the past.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Q4ogoG.jpg

It's just an http server like many others.
http://i.cubeupload.com/kEalXT.jpg

The only thing it does differently is that it can download any picture in
four different sizes, but it downloads pictures only one at a time, so,
it's not all that useful in that it isn't anything special.

It's not bad. It's just not good.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p8078c$179r$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> It's not bad. It's just not good.

The very last program for testing tonight is that WiFi HD program.
http://i.cubeupload.com/aw1fsZ.jpg

What this one does differently is that it shares via smb://192.168.1.14
http://i.cubeupload.com/c53HYP.jpg

Windows and Linux can handle SMB but I'm not all that experienced with SMB
so I don't know why it didn't show up in Windows when I entered
\\192.168.1.14\Share or even just \\192.168.1.14

However, WiFi HD can turn on its HTTP server for two way file sharing.
http://i.cubeupload.com/NBIyhw.jpg

And it has an FTP server for two way file sharing.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Xfh67k.jpg

In summary, WiFi HD might have the edge on MyFile Explorer only if I can
get SMB to work; otherwise, it's not different from MyFile Explorer in that
it has an FTP and HTTP two-way server, which is helpful in the real world.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

I just returned from a long backcountry hike so I wasn't able to summarize
the results to date, which are that these half-dozen free iOS 11.x programs
are now in the short list of free apps to explore more fully, which are
potentially capable of transferring iOS files to/from Windows/Linux in the
real world.
http://i.cubeupload.com/HtlboC.jpg

- My File Explorer
- WiFi HD
- Transfer
- Air Transfer
- MarkDisk
- WiFi photo

These free iOS pps were deprecated for the purpose as explained in detail
prior.
https://i.cubeupload.com/UfHkAH.jpg

- uDisk
- FSHaring
- iFamilyShare
- File Master
- USB Drive
- File Bus No.9
- FileManager
- WiFiAlbumFree
etc.

[Nicodemus]

Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote in
news:p81p8a$73c$4...@gioia.aioe.org:

etc.
>

Get a thumb drive

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:XnsA8A1C4D84601EG...@46.165.242.75>,

See this illustration snapped just now to provide an example for you.
http://i.cubeupload.com/uyot4R.jpg

You bring up a good point, where I respectfully disagree that using
sneakernet with a thumb drive is a viable alternative to simply sliding
files back and forth onto or off your desktop computer in the real world
over either the WiFi LAN or over USB (or both).

Savageduck, I think, also suggested a snearkernet thumb drive, which I
consider inefficient compared to the options explored here.

To be clear, neither a sneakernet thumb drive nor an additional desktop
computer is needed to back up the handful of $130 LG Stylo 3 Plus phones I
bought as stocking stuffers for Christmas because that Android hardware is
capable of handling a 2 terabyte sd card, native, out of the box.

However, for my new iOS devices, a sneakernet thumb drive seems
inefficient, although I agree with you that an additional desktop is a
requirement to backup iOS devices otherwise, if you don't want all your
personal data on the Internet.

These inherent iOS limitations mean that an additional desktop is
essentially a requirement for iOS users who don't want to back up their
private data to the Internet.

Luckily, since all iOS devices show up quite nicely on Linux and Windows
without needing to install anything on Linux or Windows, the inherent
data-backup problem all iOS devices suffer from is easily solved (without
needing to resort to sneakernet thumb drives).

1. Install free iOS software that handles one or more of these protocols:
a. SMB
b. FTP
c. HTTP

2. Then simply slide files back and forth from your Windows or Linux
desktop to and from your iOS device, as shown below.
http://i.cubeupload.com/uyot4R.jpg

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p81u77$fqi$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> Savageduck, I think, also suggested a snearkernet thumb drive, which I
> consider inefficient compared to the options explored here.

I forgot to include a list of the viable options that we are considering
for seamless file transfer from and to iOS from and to both Linux and
Windows computers in the real world.

This iOS freeware was tested yesterday, with details provided separately:
http://i.cubeupload.com/txh6HD.jpg

Only these freeware iOS programs made the first cut for viability:
http://i.cubeupload.com/P6Liet.jpg

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p7ugor$2kl$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?

In hindsight, it should have been obvious that nobody on this iOS
newsgroups knows how to do anything other than bitch that you shouldn't do
anything that isn't already scripted by Apple Marketing.

Given I actually get every task accomplished, I'll just continue to outline
my success moving forward so that the results are archived in the record
for future users to benefit from at:
http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-ipad
http://tinyurl.com/misc-phone-mobile-iphone

Here, for example, is a preliminary result showing what's accessible on
Linux over the Wi-Fi LAN after you install the "My File Explorer" software
on the iOS device.

http://i.cubeupload.com/F74KFn.jpg

0. Linux devices (entire file system)
1. iOS devices (extremely limited part of the file system)
2. Android devices (entire visible file system)
3. Windows HDDs (entire file system)

--
The only thing the iOS users on this ng know how to do is bitch!

[ultred ragnusen]

Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> In hindsight, it should have been obvious that nobody on this iOS
> newsgroups knows how to do anything other than bitch that you shouldn't do
> anything that isn't already scripted by Apple Marketing.

Despite almost nobody on iOS newsgroups knowing anything about interfacing
in the real world, the Windows 10 ng did make the suggestion below, which
failed, so, it doesn't displace all the good solutions we already have
noted.

From: mick <nos...@junk.mail>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject: Re: Do you have an iOS device? How to get it to xfer screenshots
to Windows 10 easily without that iTunes abomination?
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2018 13:07:37 GMT
Message-ID: <mn.53137e2386...@junk.mail>
> FileExplorer Pro installed on the iPad from the iPad App Store, nothing
> is installed on the pc side.
> Transfers files both ways over wifi.
> There are many more similar to FileExplorer Pro in the App Store but I
> find this one is very easy to use. It sees all your shared folders and
> files on the connected pc or NAS, makes new folders on the iPad side.
>
> This version costs $4.99 but well worth it IMO.
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fileexplorer-pro-file-manager/id499470113?mt=8
>
> There is a free version which I remember trying but found the paid
> version to be better. I cannot remember why as it was such a long time
> ago that I tried it.
> https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/fileexplorer-file-manager/id510282524?mt=8

Thanks mick, for that suggestion of File Explorer, which I added to my
tests:
http://i.cubeupload.com/kENW5e.jpg

File Explorer pops up on iOS with an "iTunes Files" screen in the "Local"
section, where I must note that the iTunes abomination will never be on my
Windows machines, so, of course, that first choice will always come up
empty.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Q4hhv6.jpg

Much more useful is clicking on the "Photo Library" section, which shows
all the photos and screenshots and videos taken on the iOS device.
http://i.cubeupload.com/7qKpox.jpg

Even though I had placed a working iOS device on the same desk, it didn't
find it, so, I'm not sure why but I didn't explore the "Nearby iOS Devices"
section any further.
https://cubeupload.com/im/NcdNbb.jpg

Hitting the plus (+) button to make a new connection, I first got a pop up
admonition that the free version can only connect to one external device at
a time, which is fine by me:
https://cubeupload.com/im/pB5xS6.jpg

Here is a list of the new connection types, with Windows being the one I
hit:
https://cubeupload.com/im/KudJRz.jpg

I only had to enter in the hostname (IP address) of the Windows computer on
the LAN where the port defaulted to 445 (which is OK by me) and my username
and password on Windows:
https://cubeupload.com/im/pGy4UJ.jpg

And I had to remember if I had a password or not on Windows, which I don't:
https://cubeupload.com/im/gvAIGQ.jpg

In this first test, I turned on everything, but I'm not sure what "DFS" is:
https://cubeupload.com/im/NFZN0c.jpg

That created this "CONNECTIONS" field on the left of this screenshot:
https://cubeupload.com/im/ET8Ixd.jpg

But the actual logging in to make the connection took horribly long ...
minutes ... I didn't time it ... but jesus ... minutes to log in!
https://cubeupload.com/im/PHo2hk.jpg

More minutes...
https://cubeupload.com/im/6kDO9d.jpg

No matter what I do, or how many times I try, I get "Permission Denied"
even when using my login and no password.
https://cubeupload.com/im/3N2HXd.jpg

The best I can get out of the FileExplorer app is the error:
Connection failed with the error: Socket Error: 57
https://cubeupload.com/im/QOsuQc.jpg

So I will give up on FileExplorer, but I thank you for the suggestion.
The solutions we already came up with are far better overall, so this is
just posted here for the tribal knowledge summary.

[nospam]

In article <p877un$11em$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, ultred ragnusen

<ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:

> So I will give up

no surprise there.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:120320182125164006%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

>> So I will give up
>
> no surprise there.

It's interesting that iOS users (a) don't know anything about interfacing
with the real world, and (b) just give up without even realizing it.

But what's more interesting is that the iOS users suggest "solutions" that
don't work in the real world, like you did, nospam.

It's amazing that the bulk of the iOS users live in an entirely fabricated
imaginary world.

That's why you're so threatened by facts.

[nospam]

In article <p879k5$13h9$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

>
> >> So I will give up
> >
> > no surprise there.
>
> It's interesting that iOS users (a) don't know anything about interfacing
> with the real world, and (b) just give up without even realizing it.

you're the one who gave up.

the rest of the world has no issues whatsoever transferring content
between ios devices and any other device.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:120320182143178915%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

> you're the one who gave up.

Every post you make proves that you live in a completely fabricated world,
where you either (a) believe what you write, or (b) you're incredibly
stupid.

There are no other options available since I've already shown you dozens of
screenshots of successful connections.

That's what is so very odd (and extremely child like) of you half-dozen
Apple Apologists.

You /hate/ facts.
Hence you deny them.

Facts like this fact, threaten the foundation of your entire belief system:
https://i.cubeupload.com/F74KFn.jpg

> the rest of the world has no issues whatsoever transferring content
> between ios devices and any other device.

What's amazing about you child-like Apple Apologists is that you make such
asinine statements that only prove
a) that you're incredibly stupid, or,
b) that you hate facts so you deny them.

It's amazing that you don't care one whit about your credibility.

You deny the already proven fact that this exists.
https://i.cubeupload.com/hmxM2i.jpg

What's amazing, is that only two possibilities exist for your words
1. You're incredibly stupid (which I don't think you are, or,
2. You lie (like you just did, twice, in two sentences).

Why do you iOS Apologists constantly fabricate non-existing iOS
functionality?

I don't know why.
I think it's simply that facts threaten the entire underpinnings of your
imaginary belief system.

Meanwhile, I'm the only one on this entire iOS newsgroup who can interface
iOS with the real world.

The rest of you live in your imaginary world trapped inside the walled
garden where you have so little functionality you don't even realize how
crippled iOS is compared to a modern operating system.

[nospam]

In article <p87aui$150m$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

>
> There are no other options available

yes there are.

[Steven Petruzzellis]

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In article <328ae2c8-12e1-4830...@googlegroups.com>, Steve
Carroll wrote:

> > Sandman:
> > <http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/snit_flood> It doesn't show what
> > interval the script is run at, but how he has used it, at least in
> > the beginning. I stopped logging it this way back in may :)
>
> From what I've personally looked at, it looks like it's all over the
> map.

Yes, with obvious scripted sessions. Not saying some of it isn't manual.

> > Sandman:
> > Maybe I'll update it :)
>
> What would it take to do that?

For "later" to occur!

<http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/postingtimes/Snit/Flooding>

That's a running tally of Snit's non-sock posts and his flooding during the
last month. It'll update automatically and always show the last two months.


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[Jolly Roger]

Indeed. While he bumbles around bumping his foolish head into
ineffective and idiotic "solutions" to his manufactured "problems", the
rest of us have already transferred our stuff and walked out the door.

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[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-13, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

Yes, but he must ignore or discount those, because: troll!

[Steven Petruzzellis]

Steve 'The Flooder' Petruzzellis is far too unintelligent to write a Linux script. The only scripting he's able to do is automating his trolling in this group. Adam LeMond's computer has more hard drives than Steve 'The Flooder' Petruzzellis's. Adam LeMond wins. Steve 'The Flooder' Petruzzellis loses. Any questions? Yup. It seems this is what we have to stop. People who obviously have no reason for being here other than to flood. I still remain uncertain that these nonstop posts are not from Adam LeMond, clearly they are from Steve 'The Flooder' Petruzzellis. Hell, just recently he was declaring himself the only "true Linux advocate", and claiming that "advocates" (in scare-quotes to try to paint them as the bad guys) are insisting desktop Linux is perfect as is.

Almost everything Steve 'The Flooder' Petruzzellis says about anyone is false as everyone knows. What is your evidence?



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[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fgq357...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Indeed. While he bumbles around bumping his foolish head into
> ineffective and idiotic "solutions" to his manufactured "problems", the
> rest of us have already transferred our stuff and walked out the door.

Except that /all/ your so-called solutions are made up imaginary
fabrications that can't and don't actually work in the real world.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p877un$11em$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, ultred ragnusen wrote:

> Despite almost nobody on iOS newsgroups knowing anything about interfacing
> in the real world, the Windows 10 ng did make the suggestion below, which
> failed, so, it doesn't displace all the good solutions we already have
> noted.

Unlike the iOS group which is filled with little children who live inside
an imaginary world, the Windows newsgroup helped me get to the next stage
of using File Explorer, where we got it to work, almost, in the real world.

What we found was either a bug in iOS, or a limitation in Safari, but we
got a lot further, and I assume we'll get further still when I post this
update, which is copied, verbatim, below, in response to "mick" who had
suggested that he uses the "File Explorer Pro" app on Windows in the real
world (i.e., sans the iTunes abomination).

===== < copy of what was just posted to the Windows ng > =====

mick <nos...@junk.mail> wrote:

>> So I will give up on FileExplorer, but I thank you for the suggestion.
>

> I remember now, I use the Pro version because I connect to multiple
> devices.

I appreciate your advice as I'm trying to accomplish connectivity, and I'm
trying to document that connectivity between iOS and Windows so that future
users can find the tribal knowledge in the Windows 10 archives at
http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10

Hence, I will provide lots of screenshots and actual URLs and settings so
that others can follow successfully in our footsteps without being forced
to use that highly restrictive iTunes abomination on Windows (which doesn't
even work in the real world, even if it weren't an abomination on Windows).

For the record, here's where this information will be archived:
http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?s=c0d3912d06c9db743ec17e120d54267f&t=1103286

I'm perfectly fine with the restriction of one computer for the File
Explorer free app, as that's all I need for now. Besides, if I want to set
up a second computer, it's easily enough done simply by deleting the first
setup. It's only the login/password, iPaddress:port anyway.

> DFS is off on my ipad.
> DFS
> https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc782417(v=ws.10).aspx

Thanks for that link to a description of the Windows Distributed File
System (DFS), which isn't anything I think I want, but even so, I'll just
leave this DFS setting as it is in File Explorer on the iOS iPad.
https://cubeupload.com/im/NFZN0c.jpg

> I am almost certain that you need to set up a password for win 10 when
> you start up your pc.

That's an interesting point of view, which I can only say that I'm pretty
sure I don't have a password for my Windows 10 account, as shown here:
http://i.cubeupload.com/bNrn4e.jpg

I guess I could /add/ a password, temporarily, just to test if that is the
problem, but the File Explorer program should give a better error than
Error 57.
http://i.cubeupload.com/0cgrLB.jpg

> Trying to connect iOS to your windows pc needs
> the ip address or the win 10 computer name AND a password, that is why
> it is timing out on your ipad.

I don't disagree with you that File Explorer might be timing out because
/it/ requires the IP address, the port, the login name, and a password, but
there is no password, because Windows doesn't need a password.

Just to see if that was the problem, I /added/ a password to Windows and
tried again after checking the IP address on Windows with ipconfig.

Oh. Um. Yeah. You were right. It worked! Fancy that.
So, even though Windows doesn't require a password, File Explorer does
require a password? Or, is it that Windows won't share things without
requiring a password?

Anyway, this is a lot better. There are 4 folders available:
- ADMIN$ (it won't let me see anything there though - I don't know why)
- C$ (it won't let me see anything there though - I don't know why)
- D$ (it won't let me see anything there though - I don't know why)
- E$ (it won't let me see anything there though - I don't know why)

Any idea why I can't get into those 4 folders which seem to be my C, D, and
E drives (where I'm not sure what ADMIN$ indicates)?

> You also must have network discovery turned on on win 10 and at least
> one shared folder on the win 10 machine. I guess from reading the
> thread you have done this already.

Oooops. Nope. I haven't needed to do /anything/ on Windows until now.
a. I haven't created a "shared" folder (I don't even know what that is)
b. I haven't turned on "network discovery" (I don't know what it is)

Googling for how to turn on "network discovery", I read this first:
https://tunecomp.net/all-methods-to-turn-on-network-discovery-in-windows-10/

None of the screenshots in that document matched what I had in Win10
Creators Edition for an Ethernet connection, in this location
- Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network and Sharing Center\Advanced sharing settings
http://i.cubeupload.com/es1dGD.jpg

So I set two switches in that panel:
1. Turn on sharing so anyone with network access can red and write files in the Public folders
2. Turn off password protected sharing
http://i.cubeupload.com/O0XF8L.jpg

Doing only that, immediately added a fifth folder to "File Explorer".
- Users

Inside of "Users" in File Explorer on iOS were 3 folders and one file:
- Default (I presume this is the C:\Users\ultred\Default directory)
- Public (I presume this is the C:\Users\ultred\Public directory)
- ultred (This appears to be the C:\Users\ultred directory)
- desktop.ini

The great news is that by adding an unwanted password to my account, and
turning on file sharing, I was able to get File Explorer to work, but only
in the C:\Users hierarchy (the other directories such as C$ still don't
work).

That's too bad because, by long-standing well-thought-out design, I never
store /anything/ in the C:\Users hierarchy (at least not on purpose), but
this restriction is not deadly because I can move anything out that I do
store there, if necessary.

As a simple test from Windows to iPad, I found some MS Office templates:
https://www.davis.k12.ut.us/Page/2783
And then downloaded from Windows this Microsoft Word document:
https://www.davis.k12.ut.us/cms/lib/UT01001306/Centricity/Domain/269/Files/word-interm-newsl-quotes.docx
And this Excel document:
https://www.davis.k12.ut.us/cms/lib/UT01001306/Centricity/Domain/269/Files/word-inter-list-students.xlsx
To the Windows folder:
C:\Users\Public\Documents

Lo and behold, these two new documents showed up on the iPad in File
Explorer over WiFi.

When I tapped on the Excel document in File Explorer, it mentioned it was
downloading, and then it popped up in some unknown editor on the iPad.

The Word document came up quicker in the unknown editor on the iPad, where
this proves the connection from Windows to iOS over WiFi via File Explorer.

To test the other direction, from the iOS device to Windows, I created a
document in the default iOS "Notes" app.

Unfortunately, in "Notes", when you hit the "sharing" icon, there isn't
much you can do with it since the only "apps" you can send it to are Email,
Pocket, Message, Mail, etc. (none of which are useful choices for apps).

There is a "Save to files" icon though, which can only save to an extremely
limited set of apps, namely:
- GarageBand
- Keynote
- Numbers
- Pages
- VLC
None of which are useful apps since I wish to save the file to the "File
Explorer" app, which doesn't show up in this list.

This limitation may be just because the primitive "Notes" app is too dumb
to do anything useful, since it /should/ have been trivial to save the file
to the File Explorer app private space.

So I need to ask you, mick, if you've been able to get files from iOS to
Windows using the "File Explorer" app on iOS? If so, what's the trick?

Thinking of another way, while I wait, if I use Chrome, I get even more
primitive sharing options on iOS, but if I use Safari on iOS, the sharing
options include "File Explorer", so here's what I tried.

I opened the Safari browser to a test PowerPoint doc at
https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/torman_personal/files/samplepptx.pptx

While viewing that PowerPoint doc in Safari, I hit the "Sharing" button and
then the "Copy to File Explorer" button.
http://i.cubeupload.com/twlGlG.jpg

There was no indication of anything happening, which is a flaw in any
operating system, but which is pretty normal for iOS. The document did not
seem to go into File Explorer, so, the user is left wondering what
happened.
http://i.cubeupload.com/mAUKPG.jpg

The same primitive results happened when I pressed the Safari Sharing "Save
to Files", where the only options available didn't include any apps of any
use for the file-transfer purpose.

Interestingly, I hit the "save to Air Transfer" button inside of the
primitive Safari sharing mechanism, and it immediately told me with a great
graphic that it was saved into the "Documents" folder of Air Transfer app.
http://i.cubeupload.com/l3r5Oj.jpg

Using the primitive and limited Safari Sharing "Save to MFExplorer" button
also worked fine, successfully putting the file in the MyFileExplorer
private space under the "Import" directory.
http://i.cubeupload.com/sYEQVj.jpg

So, for whatever reason, either Safari failed and didn't provide any
messages when trying to save into the private space of "File Explorer", or,
maybe it worked, but File Explorer isn't showing where the file went?

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fgq357...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Indeed. While he bumbles around bumping his foolish head into
> ineffective and idiotic "solutions" to his manufactured "problems", the
> rest of us have already transferred our stuff and walked out the door.

What's very interesting is that I'm on iOS, Linux, Windows, & Android
newsgroups, where it's only the half-dozen Apple Apologists on the iOS
newsgroups who constantly fabricate fictional functionality that only
exists in their own child-like minds which is what you just did, Jolly
Roger.

Nonetheless, since I'm an adult, I stick to the real world, not your
imaginary world.

Hence, here's an accurate summary I provided to the Windows users on the
thread asking them what they use to best interface iOS to Windows sans the
iTunes abomination.
==== < begin copy of summary to Windows newgroup > =====
I have all the common operating systems in the real world:
1. iOS
2. Android
3. Linux
4. Windows
And all I expect is for them to play nice with each other, which for file
transfer, simply means all files in their visible system should be two way
available by sliding back & forth on all other operating systems.

This thread is only about iOS & Windows, where the one huge difference is
that the "visible" part of the iOS file system is limited to two things.
A. The space inside of the DCIM directory tree
B. The space inside non-Apple 3rd-party apps (such as file-transfer apps)

Given this is the "visible" part of the iOS file system, the trick is to
put things into those visible locations, which isn't a problem for camera
shots, camera videos, or screenshots.

As with all things iOS, it's much harder than it should be to simply put a
larger movie video or document downloaded off the web into a "visible" file
space, but it can be done, if the application allows it.

For example, on iOS, Safari allows download of this document to the
file-transfer program private space, but Chrome on iOS does not.
https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/torman_personal/files/samplepptx.pptx

If you use just the right software, and hit just the right buttons, then
you can often (but not always) place your files into the "visible" space
(aka private space) of the file-transfer programs.

Once your files are in "visible" space, then you can transfer those files
to Linux or Windows via at least these methods:
1. USB (I have this working only one way, & only for Camera files)
2. FTP (I have this working flawlessly both ways on Linux & Windows)
3. HTTP (I have this working flawlessly both ways on Linux & Windows)
4. SMB (I don't have enough knowledge of syntax yet to test this out)
5. BT (I don't have a Bluetooth PCI card or USB dongle on this desktop)
6. App-specific transfer (e.g., "File Explorer", "VLC", etc.)

[Jolly Roger]

ROFL... And it only took him FOUR FUCKING DAYS to figure out THE most
cumbersome and convoluted way to get some photos and videos off of his iOS
device, folks! GENIUS! Hahahaha!!! Such skill! Such pride! What a fucking
tool! : D

[Steven Petruzzellis]

Why do you keep rephrasing yourself?

I still am unpersuaded that these posts are definitely scripted.

Autumn Nissen is often seen declaring "GOOGLE HAS NOTHING" when it comes to content on the web where info does exist... but Autumn Nissen is just too dense and/or too in over your head to interpret any instruction he sees. He disturbs an entire group of people who become collateral damage, but that's a conceited fool for you. What you and I care about isn't a factor. If Autumn Nissen calls having his lies quoted time and time again for years on end by dozens of people (and completely ruining his name and any reason for me to give credence to anything he has to say - for the rest of time) 'trolling', then whatever... he is a good troll. I do not personally go along with that view, I use another term. I call him an utter ignoramus.

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[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fgrp8a...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

> ROFL... And it only took him FOUR FUCKING DAYS to figure out THE most
> cumbersome and convoluted way to get some photos and videos off of his iOS
> device, folks! GENIUS! Hahahaha!!! Such skill! Such pride! What a fucking
> tool! : D

What's odd is that the child-like Apple Apologists like Jolly Roger
fabricate iOS functionality that they must know doesn't exist, and then,
given it only takes Jolly Roger seconds to fabricate this non-existent
functionality, decries that we've been exploring /real/ functionality for a
few days.

It's lost on the iOS children such as Jolly Roger that they can't do what
we can do, even in a lifetime of using iOS.

What's sad, is that Jolly Roger won't even /understand/ what I just said is
the God's honest truth as I only speak fact.

That's why he's one of the /dumbest/ of the child-like Apple Apologists.

He thinks his fictional iOS functionality actually exists when it only
exists inside his mind.

The proof is whenever we ask him /how/ he solves the stated problem, he
can't answer it (because it's common knowledge that the Apple-provided
solution doesn't work in the real world).

HINT: The real world includes Windows computers sans the iTunes
abomination, and Linux (and, for that matter cold weather).

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fgq361...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

>>> There are no other options available
>>
>> yes there are.
>
> Yes, but he must ignore or discount those, because: troll!

The proof that Jolly Roger is stupid is evident in everything he writes.

What's extremely sad is that the child-like Apple Apologists keep stating
that Apple products work outside the walled garden, aka in the real world,
when it's common knowledge to all adults that they don't.

That these child-like Apple Apologists actually /believe/ the fictional
fabrication that their house-of-cards "solution" works on Windows computers
sans the iTunes abomination or on Linux computers simply is one obvious
proof that they're quite stupid.

I only speak fact.

The Apple Apologists are incredibly stupid because their entire imaginary
belief system can't stand up to the simplest of obvious facts.

That's why they hate me so much.
I only speak facts.

[Steven Petruzzellis]

Thanks to Richard 'The Fool' Heathfield and his 'convenient friends' you now need a reverse spam filter. Dig through the archives, for the most part I cold turkey stopped giving him my worst. If people start responding to him again I will, too... as I said. I am referring to good people here, not idiots, who are mostly him talking to himself.

Given how repeatedly it seems that Richard 'The Fool' Heathfield's signature is some distortion of an observation Desk Rabbit wrote which had been a thrashing on Richard 'The Fool' Heathfield for something he did which was stupid/false/etc... its truly a common gesture of Richard 'The Fool' Heathfield's lingering butthurt for having been so repeatedly humiliated. It is clear from how Richard 'The Fool' Heathfield posted - by showing ignorance of fundamentals of the operating system and suchlike - he has not handled a graphically complex problem. Otherwise he would have understood the requirements like actually commenting your code! Do not get too egotistical, Richard 'The Fool' Heathfield, sometimes "your socks" are just that. I'm getting a lot of killed files. I'm guessing the whackadoodle is unable to control his own actions. My killfiles have him/her/it completely shut out.



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[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p7ugor$2kl$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?

Always solving problems that Apple users can't solve on their own, the
Windows and Linux newsgroups (which contains adults) has made a lot of
progress with SMB as one of the solutions, even to the point of mounting
the iPad SMB share as a mount point on Linux & Windows over WiFi.

Three apps which use the SMB protocol on iOS are:
File Explorer
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fileexplorer-file-manager/id510282524?mt=8

RManager
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/rmanager/id981869721?mt=8

SMBManager
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/smb-manager-cifs-client/id1141340577?mt=8

Here's a screenshot of a file copied over the WiFi LAN to an SMB share
inside the freeware iOS File Explorer app on iOS:
http://i.cubeupload.com/H6ztFQ.jpg

Here's a screenshot of a similar test file on Linux inside the freeware iOS
RManager app on iOS:
http://i.cubeupload.com/kkcpp6.jpg

The freeware iOS SMBManager can 'see' the Linux SMB shares:
http://i.cubeupload.com/8OmWbO.jpg

But, so far, SMBManager can't transfer files yet (we don't know why yet).
http://i.cubeupload.com/VVKI25.jpg

In summary, SMB is yet another way to connect iOS devices to computers in
the real world, which includes prevalent operating systems that Apple
doesn't support and particularly includes computers which have zero highly
restrictive Apple software on them!

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-15, Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:
> In article <news:p7ugor$2kl$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
>
>> Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?
>
> Always solving problems that Apple users can't solve on their own, the
> Windows and Linux newsgroups (which contains adults) has made a lot of
> progress with SMB as one of the solutions, even to the point of mounting
> the iPad SMB share as a mount point on Linux & Windows over WiFi.

And it only took him FOUR fucking DAYS to figure out how to get a photo
from point A to point B, folks! Something that most iOS users do with
ease every day... You should all marvel at "Ragnusen's" incredible
"problem" solving skills! LOL! : D

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fh08r5...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

> And it only took him FOUR fucking DAYS to figure out how to get a photo
> from point A to point B, folks! Something that most iOS users do with
> ease every day... You should all marvel at "Ragnusen's" incredible
> "problem" solving skills! LOL! : D

What's rather interesting about you, Jolly Roger, is that you live entirely
within a completely make-believe world that ignores that the real world
exists outside the extremely restrictive narrow confines of the walled
garden.

I'll bet you claim to have climbed Mount Everest also, wearing only
Apple-branded sneakers.

[nospam]

In article <p8fi5q$rha$5...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> I'll bet you claim to have climbed Mount Everest also, wearing only
> Apple-branded sneakers.

those are a very hard to find collectible:

<https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/08/this-vintage-pair-of-apple-sneakers-is-
being-auctioned-off-for-15000.html>
One of the most coveted items Apple produced during this time was a
pair of branded sneakers, which Heritage Auctions is planning to list
on eBay on June 11th with a cool starting price of $15,000.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:160320180115396662%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

>> I'll bet you claim to have climbed Mount Everest also, wearing only
>> Apple-branded sneakers.
>
> those are a very hard to find collectible:
>
> <https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/08/this-vintage-pair-of-apple-sneakers-is-
> being-auctioned-off-for-15000.html>
> One of the most coveted items Apple produced during this time was a
> pair of branded sneakers, which Heritage Auctions is planning to list
> on eBay on June 11th with a cool starting price of $15,000.

Hi nospam,

You see?

You're /different/ than the rest of the Apple Apologists in that you
actually /know/ about Apple and its products.

The rest of the half-dozen Apple Apologists (e.g., Lewis, BK@OnRamp, Joe,
Jolly Roger, etc.) don't have the adult comprehensive capabilities that you
have.

It's too bad you waste your skills in fabricating fictional iOS
functionality, which was my point about Jolly Roger exclaiming that he
could do the impossible, which is why I mentioned it's as if he claims to
climb Mount Everest in his Apple-branded sneakers.

That a review of software can span a few days (elapsed time) is such a
shock to the child-like mind of Jolly Roger. His child-like mind can't
comprehend the concept of a review of software such as these tools.

http://i.cubeupload.com/tRtGs0.jpg

MyFile Explorer, by GLOBILE COMPUTER BUSINESS SERVICES
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/my-file-explorer/id571929068?mt=8
WiFi HD, by Savy Soda

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wifi-hd-free-wireless-smb-usb-hard-disk-drive-nfs-network/id311170976?mt=8
Simple Transfer - Photo+Video, by Rambax, LLC

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/simple-transfer-photo-video/id420821506?mt=8
Air Transfer, by Darinsoft

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/air-transfer-file-transfer-from-to-pc-thru-wifi/id521595136?mt=8
MarkDisk, by Shumin Sun
https://itunes.apple.com/US/app/id1035317905?mt=8
WiFi photo, by Voxeloid Kft.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wifi-photo-transfer/id380326191?mt=8
FileExplorer, by Skyjos Co., Ltd.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fileexplorer-file-manager/id510282524?mt=8
RManager, by Evolution Games LLP
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/rmanager/id981869721?mt=8
SMBManager, by LTD DevelSoftware
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/smb-manager-cifs-client/id1141340577?mt=8

[Steven Petruzzellis]

Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll's obsession with Audra 'The Shill' Moore started in 2004 when Carroll got mad about his then girlfriend obsessing over Audra 'The Shill' Moore (heavily documented here: <http://tinyurl.com/proof-about-ebot>). Audra 'The Shill' Moore continued to respond to Steve for about 5 years, when Steve flipped out in 2009 and started contacting Audra 'The Shill' Moore's employer with the stated goal to have him fired (he spoke of doing so even if he had to twist arms):

<http://goo.gl/OHNryA>
<http://goo.gl/MZ6yCD>
<http://goo.gl/WaKKGq>

There were more, but Carroll has had them deleted from the Google archive. I have not spent the time to find them elsewhere (and likely will not).

With that Audra 'The Shill' Moore stopped responding directly to Steve except for *one* chance he gave him in 2011 when Steve was accusing *Audra 'The Shill' Moore* of running: <http://goo.gl/racU64>.

Carroll, as predicted, ran (he always does when faced with facts):
<http://goo.gl/qHs5Xh>

Steven Petruzzellis knows he has no backing for any of his nonsense and has become, if anything, more and more obsessive since Audra 'The Shill' Moore stopped responding to him.

Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is truly a very, very sick man.

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[Steven Petruzzellis]

I'm getting sick of the nonsense in here. I'm guessing the pea-brained Mac cultist is unable to control his own actions. It is utter bliss to not read that crap. Sandman shows at least some of the posts are hand generated because some of them are direct responses in very specific ways that underscore they are a response. Meaning someone is hand writing many of these.

I am working on an idea which will show off how weak C++ is. Did Sandman think that was clever?

Generally, I wouldn't call a claim like Sandman's posts an outright lie right up until you challenge it (as you are here) and he responds with the gibberish because even he knows the details are wrong. Proof Sandman accuses everyone of being Snit http://sandman.net/files/snit_circus.png.



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[Uultred ragnusen]

Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows

> over Wi-Fi LAN without intalling anything on the desktop?

Here is a summary of the excellent progress to date, with a couple of open
questions at the end with respect to the original question of sliding large
files back and forth between iOS and Windows 10 & Linux without needing to
install anything on Windows 10 or Linux, and using only a single freeware
app on iOS.

I found a few other methods, e.g., something called PLEX, where, overall,
I've tested the following USB & WiFi methods of moving large files back and
forth between the latest Windows (1709) or Linux (Ubuntu 17.10) & the
latest iOS (11.2.6).

This is a summary of the status of each method on Windows:
1. USB (unknown why it only works one way on Windows, from iOS to desktop)
2. iOS FTP server (works both ways in File Explorer between iOS & Windows)
3. iOS HTTP server (works both ways in a web browser between iOS & Windows)
4. iOS Bluetooth (should work on Windows but I don't have BT or WiFi cards)
5. iOS SMB server (works both ways between iOS & Windows)
6. iOS SMB client (works both ways between iOS & Windows)
7. iOS VLC app (works both ways - perhaps it's just HTTP or WebDAV?)
8. Desktop command-line app (e.g., curl, wget, etc.)

This is a summary of the status of each method on Linux:
1. USB (unknown why it only works one way on Linux, from iOS to desktop)
2. iOS FTP server (works both ways in Nautilus between iOS & Linux)
3. iOS HTTP server (works both ways in a we browser between iOS & Linux)
4. iOS Bluetooth (should work on Linux but I don't have a BT or WiFi card)
5. iOS SMB server (works both ways once smbclient is installed on Linux)
6. iOS SMB client (works both ways once Samba is installed on Linux)
7. iOS VLC app (works both ways - perhaps it's just HTTP or WebDAV?)
8. Desktop command-line app (e.g., curl, wget, etc.)

I haven't tried 'wget' or 'curl', but they should work on the HTTP servers.

The VLC app may or may not be in its own category as it might just be a
normal HTTP server, or, maybe it uses WebDAV? I don't know, but it also
works so I listed it as a 7th method for sliding large files both ways
between Linux and iOS that works without any additional software on the
desktop:
http://i.cubeupload.com/KeEgLb.jpg

Open questions on Windows:
Q: What's the trick to getting USB transfer to be both ways with Windows?
Q: What's the trick to permanently "mounting" the iOS SMB share on Windows?
net use X: \\IPAD\share

Open questions on Linux (since USB used to work both ways in iOS 7.0.0):
Q: What's the trick to getting USB transfer to be both ways with Linux?
Q: What's the trick to "mounting" the iOS SMB share on Linux?

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-17, Uultred ragnusen <ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:
> Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:
>
>> Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows
>> over Wi-Fi LAN without intalling anything on the desktop?
>

> Here is a summary of...

Nobody in the Apple newsgroups cares about your laborious summary of the
most convoluted procedure you could dream up to move a photo from point
A to point B, which took you over SEVEN fucking DAYS to figure out, all
while cheering SO PROUDLY for your so-called "solution" while claiming
to be smarter than anyone else in these news groups. While you've been
bumbling around like a compete technophobe, bumping your fool head into
wall after wall, the rest of us have already transferred our stuff with
ease and walked out the fucking door, you useless pitiful asshole
Apple-hating troll. : D

[dorayme]

In article <fh5luo...@mid.individual.net>,

Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> > Here is a summary of...
>
> Nobody in the Apple newsgroups cares about your laborious summary of the
> most convoluted procedure

Except you, obviously! You care quite enough to constantly comment
about the guy. If he had no summaries, if he had no problems, if he
were able to do whatever and pissed off afterwards, you would have
nothing to care about. But, luckily for your sad life, he has
summaries and takes ages to get things done and does not seem to
follow your advice or the advice of your bully gang.

--
dorayme

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article
<news:do_ray_me-A32E3...@46.sub-75-242-165.myvzw.com>, dorayme
wrote:

>> Nobody in the Apple newsgroups cares about your laborious summary of the
>> most convoluted procedure
>
> Except you, obviously! You care quite enough to constantly comment
> about the guy. If he had no summaries, if he had no problems, if he
> were able to do whatever and pissed off afterwards, you would have
> nothing to care about. But, luckily for your sad life, he has
> summaries and takes ages to get things done and does not seem to
> follow your advice or the advice of your bully gang.

Why is it that only the iOS ng is /different/ than all other platform ngs?

What I do on Usenet is ask valid questions of dozens of newsgroups, and
then I leave (until I have a new question) ... where only on iOS newsgroups
are the responses almost always filled to the brim with purposefully
unhelpful technically barren childish drivel.
https://cubeupload.com/im/Afhk2u.jpg

Why is it that only the iOS ng is /different/ than all other platform ngs?

For example, the Linux platform newsgroup was asked the same question,
where they're acting like adults would, by advising where they can such
that we've achieved success today, simply by updating the non-proprietary
Apple device drivers from http://www.libimobiledevice.org/
https://cubeupload.com/im/9NqTaE.jpg

Why is it that only the iOS ng is /different/ than all other platform ngs?

And, for example, the Windows 10 ng also acted like adults, but we haven't
yet achieved the success that we have for USB two way transfer to the two
available mount points via USB.
http://i.cubeupload.com/jIUogJ.jpg

Of course, we've achieved two-way transfer on Linux over Wi-Fi (via SMB,
FTP, and HTTP), but for large files, WiFi is too slow.
http://i.cubeupload.com/zcxdHx.jpg

Despite the purposefully unhelpful childish attitude of the iOS users,
we're making good progress with adults on the Linux & Windows newsgroups
toward putting into the permanent tribal-knowledge record a wonderfully
simple, fast, and powerful solution to two-way transfer of large files
between iOS devices and Windows & Linux desktops!
https://cubeupload.com/im/Gj4h6i.jpg

Why is it that only the iOS ng is /different/ than all other platform ngs?
https://cubeupload.com/im/BOLdzU.jpg

[Steven Petruzzellis]

You guys can only appreciate things from the perspective of a sociopath. The herd members value the lowest common denominator above choice and productivity. Obviously, the only thought that concerns Chris Ahlstrom is arguing he is "professional", and if he can't have that he will do more research to actively kick Satan down... ignoring him is the only option. Thanks to Chris Ahlstrom and his 'buddies' you now need an IP filtering system (which I configured for Newsbin Pro and Pan). Do a Google Groups search, for the most part I cold turkey stopped giving him what he earned. If people start up with him again I will slip in my resolve... as I hate him too much to not. I'm referring to our clan here, not drive by loons, who will never agree to stop.



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[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p8l2pj$1c03$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> Despite the purposefully unhelpful childish attitude of the iOS users,
> we're making good progress with adults on the Linux & Windows newsgroups
> toward putting into the permanent tribal-knowledge record a wonderfully
> simple, fast, and powerful solution to two-way transfer of large files
> between iOS devices and Windows & Linux desktops!
> https://cubeupload.com/im/Gj4h6i.jpg

Update with data for the tribal knowledge archives...

It looks like Apple keeps breaking Linux connectivity, perhaps on purpose,
with each iOS release (certainly Apple doesn't test their software, even
for platforms that they actually support), so that's likely why connecting
a current iOS 11.x iDevice to Linux doesn't work like it used to in the
past.
https://my30daysoflinux.blogspot.com/2017/07/make-iphone-7-ios-1033-work-on-ubuntu.html
https://askubuntu.com/questions/928750/how-do-i-access-ios-camera-pictures-on-ubuntu-17-04/938890

Nonetheless, the solution we came up with the adults on the Linux group is
simple, which is to update the patched ifuse, libimobiledevice, and
idevicepair programs and just connect the iDevice by USB cable.
https://cubeupload.com/im/BOLdzU.jpg

Then we can slide files back and forth into iOS programs' private space
(e.g., VLC) or we can copy over the Camera/DCIM files one way.
https://cubeupload.com/im/Afhk2u.jpg

As for mounting iOS SMB shares, I'm working on that as we speak:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47000633/ubuntu-17-10-mounting-smb-share-keeps-failing
https://websiteforstudents.com/mount-windows-shares-everyone-ubuntu-17-04-17-10/

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p8lcqi$1q67$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> As for mounting iOS SMB shares, I'm working on that as we speak:
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47000633/ubuntu-17-10-mounting-smb-share-keeps-failing
> https://websiteforstudents.com/mount-windows-shares-everyone-ubuntu-17-04-17-10/

As an example of the /power/ of SMB, I just proved, for the Windows ng:
http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10

That we could seamlessly edit an iOS file from Windows over WiFi using the
SMB protocol, without the file ever being on Windows.

We should be able to do the same on Linux, which I'll try to figure out the
syntax for, but here, as an example, is what I just wrote in the Windows
ng.

Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote:

> Someone could "port" what was done for Linux, to Windows,
> but... will they ? Will they charge money for it ?

Hi Paul,
Thanks for your help as seamless file transfer over WiFi and USB without
the restrictive iTunes abomination is something anyone with an iOS device
and Windows would want to do.

Based on your excellent advice and patient explanations, I've put trying to
get the three iOS mount points to work on Windows on the back burner.

Instead, I'm first going to document for the tribal-knowledge archives what
works best on Windows, where we already have both iOS HTTP & iOS FTP
servers working fine - so I'll document below how I enabled the freeware
iOS SMB server to play nice with Windows over WiFi.

1. On iOS, I started the freeware app "WiFi HD" and selected the
"Documents" tab in that freeware and turned it on, which gave
me a server address of smb://192.168.1.9 for that iOS device.
https://cubeupload.com/im/NXeNxF.jpg

2. On Windows 10 Pro, I added the following "network location":
Network Location = \\192.168.1.9\Documents
Windows-generated Name = Documents (192.168.1.9 (NQ CIFS Server))
https://cubeupload.com/im/WA2Y6W.jpg

2. On Windows 10 Pro, that iOS smb://192.168.1.9/Documents share
opened up automatically
https://cubeupload.com/im/mKpXx6.jpg
where I right clicked and created an empty text file on that
iOS SMB share where the file was named "jollyroger.txt".
https://cubeupload.com/im/jnKOmG.jpg
And then I doubleclicked on that iOS file from Windows to add content:
https://cubeupload.com/im/TXpVdE.jpg

3. Immediately, that file showed up in iOS when I refreshed WiFi HD:
https://cubeupload.com/im/CsJC3i.jpg

4. That's a clear test of seamlessness, but, as an optional additional
step, I decided to add to that text file from the Windows cmd line,
but Windows doesn't recognize SMB addresses at the command line.
c:\> cd \\192.168.1.9\Documents
'\\192.168.1.9\Documents'
CMD does not support UNC paths as current directories.

5. So I "mounted" the smb share as a removable drive on Windows:
c:\ net use S: \\192.168.1.9\Documents
The command completed successfully.

6. I then appended to that text file from the Windows 10 command line:
c:\> dir >> S:\jollyroger.txt
https://cubeupload.com/im/tyHgah.jpg

7. To prove all this action on Winodws was being done on the iOS device,
I opened the file in WiFi HD on the iOS device, which reveals both
actions worked seamlessly to edit iOS file from Windows.
https://cubeupload.com/im/qHAzwM.jpg

8. This file never left the iOS device, where the iOS device was being
edited from Windows the entire time and where the file can now be
moved on the iOS device to wherever we want to put it.
https://cubeupload.com/im/4eE3p9.jpg

In summary, this proves seamless integration of iOS with Windows over the
SMB protocol where it was easy to edit a file on the iOS device from the
Windows desktop over Wi-Fi.
https://cubeupload.com/im/KlFC1J.jpg

Notice the file never left the iOS device.
The iOS file was created and modified from the Windows desktop over WiFi.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-18, Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:
> In article <news:p8lcqi$1q67$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
>
>> As for mounting iOS SMB shares, I'm working on that as we speak:
>

> As an example of the /power/ of SMB, I just proved, for the Windows ng:
>

> That we could seamlessly edit an iOS file from Windows over WiFi using the
> SMB protocol, without the file ever being on Windows.

Oh, my! Witness the *awesome* *power* of (drum roll)...file sharing!
Wow! Who knew you could do file sharing?! It's almost like *magic* or
something! And he was able to figure this out in *only* NINE fucking
DAYS, with assistance from many other people! "Ragnusen" is like, soooo
smart! The smartest! Trust him! He knows *way* better than all the other
iOS users who transfer files from point A to point B easily in seconds.
Witness his technical prowess!! LOL! : D

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fh85f7...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Oh, my! Witness the *awesome* *power* of (drum roll)...file sharing!
> Wow! Who knew you could do file sharing?! It's almost like *magic* or
> something! And he was able to figure this out in *only* NINE fucking
> DAYS, with assistance from many other people! "Ragnusen" is like, soooo
> smart! The smartest! Trust him! He knows *way* better than all the other
> iOS users who transfer files from point A to point B easily in seconds.
> Witness his technical prowess!! LOL! : D

Fancy that. The iOS users yet again claim imaginary functionality!

And yet, you can't do in your entire lifetime, what I just did, in the past
five minutes, proved with screenshots for the adult Windows 10 newsgroup!

Come on, Jolly Roger. Are you a liar or not?

Show me, with screenshots, what I just showed the Windows newsgroup, which
is the ability to (a) create, (b) edit, and (c) modify an iOS file, over
the WiFi LAN, from Windows, without a shred of non-native software on
Windows, which means that the restrictive iTunes abomination doesn't exist
on my network.

Are you a liar or not Jolly Roger?

If you can do what I just did, just snap a screenshot proving your words.

What's that?
You can't?

Oh, I see.
So you just lied because you hate facts.

You can't prove a single word you say.
Whereas I prove everything I say.

Fancy that. The iOS users yet again claim imaginary functionality!

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-18, Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> In article <news:fh85f7...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Oh, my! Witness the *awesome* *power* of (drum roll)...file sharing!
>> Wow! Who knew you could do file sharing?! It's almost like *magic* or
>> something! And he was able to figure this out in *only* NINE fucking
>> DAYS, with assistance from many other people! "Ragnusen" is like, soooo
>> smart! The smartest! Trust him! He knows *way* better than all the other
>> iOS users who transfer files from point A to point B easily in seconds.
>> Witness his technical prowess!! LOL! : D
>
> Fancy that. The iOS users yet again claim imaginary functionality!

There's nothing imaginary about file sharing _at_ _all_; *ALL* platforms
can do file sharing, dumb ass. It just took you NINE fucking DAYS to
figure out it was even possible. : D

> And yet, you can't do in your entire lifetime, what I just did, in the past
> five minutes

I've been doing file sharing for literal *decades* - since before
Ethernet or WiFi was common in households, you fucking idiot! Only
someone as completely clueless as you would suggest other people can't
do something as simple as editing a file over a network. LOL... What a
doofus! : D

> Show me, with screenshots

Only a complete idiot would demand proof that file sharing works. You're
hopelessly stuck in the last century, old fart. : D

> Fancy that. The iOS users yet again claim imaginary functionality!

First you say you shared files with iOS, then you contradict yourself
and claim no such functionality exists on iOS, like a true dimwit. You
can't make this stuff up, folks! Pure comedy gold! : D

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fh866r...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

>> Fancy that. The iOS users yet again claim imaginary functionality!
>
> There's nothing imaginary about file sharing _at_ _all_; *ALL* platforms
> can do file sharing, dumb ass. It just took you NINE fucking DAYS to
> figure out it was even possible. : D

Fancy that you can't do, in your entire lifetime, what I just did, in five
minutes.

I prove everything I say - you prove nothing you say.

Whom are we to believe?
a. The Jolly Roger liar who imagines fabricated functionality?
b. Or the truthful poster, who proves everything he writes.

You're a liar Jolly Roger.
You can't even do in your entire life what I did in the last five minutes.

>> And yet, you can't do in your entire lifetime, what I just did, in the past
>> five minutes
>
> I've been doing file sharing for literal *decades* - since before
> Ethernet or WiFi was common in households, you fucking idiot!

And yet, you can't prove a single word of your imaginary functionality.
Fancy that.

> Only
> someone as completely clueless as you would suggest other people can't
> do something as simple as editing a file over a network. LOL... What a
> doofus! : D

And yet, I proved the functionality I spoke about, and you can't prove a
single word of what you write.

Fancy that.

>
>> Show me, with screenshots
>
> Only a complete idiot would demand proof that file sharing works. You're
> hopelessly stuck in the last century, old fart. : D

I can read you like a book Jolly Roger.
I /knew/ you couldn't prove a single word you said.

You know why?
Because all this functionality you claim is "imaginary" functionality.

You can't do in your entire life what I did in the past five minutes.

>
>> Fancy that. The iOS users yet again claim imaginary functionality!
>
> First you say you shared files with iOS, then you contradict yourself
> and claim no such functionality exists on iOS, like a true dimwit. You
> can't make this stuff up, folks! Pure comedy gold! : D

Hehhehheh ... now you're all tongue-twisted in your attempts to back out of
your lie about your brazenly fabricated imaginary functionality that you
"claim" to have, and yet, you can't prove a single word you say.

Meanwhile, I proved everything I said.

That's the difference between the child-like Apple Apologists, who can
never prove a single word they say, and adults who prove everything they
say.

I repeat: You can't do in your entire life what I just proved I did in the
past five minutes.

Think about that before you call me a fool. :)

[Ragnusen Ultred]

Here's the update I just gave to the Windows newsgroup, which is comprised
of adults, unlike this iOS newsgroup...

Basically, on Linux, USB just works, while on Windows, SMB just works.

On both, FTP & HTTP just work.



-------------- < cut here > -------------------
UPDATE on Progress:

Thanks for all the help where we only have two problems left:
1. On Windows, iOS USB connectivity stinks, but SMB connectivity is great.
2. On Linux, iOS USB connectivity is great, but SMB connectivity stinks.

If we make zero further progress, then Linux is far better because USB is
far faster (about 1 minute per GigaByte file transfer) but I'm 90% on
Windows and only 10% on Linux so having to boot (or use VirtualBox) to
Linux is a pain just to get iOS connectivity.

I don't know why USB sucks so badly on Windows (nor why SMB sucks so badly
on Linux), but those are the two remaining problems to be solved.

In the spirit of full disclosure, for the tribal knowledge record, here's
my Linux summary just posted to http://tinyurl.com/alt-os-linux

================ cut here =======================
Update.

Here's a summary update of the progress of connecting iOS & Ubuntu:
http://i.cubeupload.com/6PTcs1.jpg

USB:
Notice there is no jailbreaking involved and zero proprietary software
installed on the dekstop (i.e., no iTunes) for the USB connectivity
pictured above - although I did have to update Ubuntu 17.10's default ifuse
& libimobiledevice drivers to the latest build.

USB connectivity allows for 3 iOS file systems to be mounted:
1. One-way access to the iOS Camera DCIM folder
2. Two-way access to the well-written iOS apps' private space
3. Either one-way or two-way access to iOS folders
And USB connectivity allows for some of the root systems to be viewed:
4. The iOS root syslog can be tailed in real time

iOS SMB Server:
After installing the freeware iOS SMB server "WiFi HD", I was able to
connect to the SMB share \\iDevice\IPC$ but the WiFi HD software doesn't
provide for a password so I haven't yet figured out the syntax to make the
smbclient command work for the share that Windows easily connects to which
I know (from Windows) to be smb://iDevice/Documents.

This won't show the known share of "smb://192.168.1.9/Documents":
$ smbclient -L 192.168.1.9

It asks for a password (which I don't know since the WiFi HD doesn't say
anything about a password and Windows doesn't need it so I assume there is
none) and then all it shows is the workgroup of WORKGROUP and the single
global share of IPC$.

So the main syntactical question here of Linux users is how to get
smbclient to show the "smb://192.168.1.9/Documents" share, which I know to
be there because Windows has no problem seeing it under the same
conditions.
https://cubeupload.com/im/Kzm9qk.jpg

So if Windows can see the smb://192.168.1.9/Documents share, then my main
question is why can't Linux see the same share?

iOS SMB Client:
Running a free iOS SMB client (e.g., "File Explorer"), we can connect
easily to an SMB server on Windows or Linux so I won't delve into more
detail in this summary.

iOS FTP Server:
Running a free iOS FTP server (e.g., "MyFileExplorer"), we can connect
easily from Windows or Linux with an FTP client so I won't delve into more
detail in this summary.

IOS HTTP Server:
Running a free iOS HTTP server (e.g., "MyFileExplorer"), we can connect
easily from Windows or Linux with any web browser, curl, or wget, so I
won't delve into more detail in this summary.

Overall, once I updated the drivers, Ubuntu USB is working flawlessly (far
better than USB does on Windows), but SMB is failing miserably (far worse
than it did on Windows).

I've scoured the net for smbclient examples and instructions where none
show anything working with iOS devices that I can find useful.

So my main Linux unresolved question is how to get smbclient to connect to
the "smb://192.168.1.9/Documents" share that I /know/ exists because
Windows has no problem connecting to it.
https://cubeupload.com/im/fZlxui.jpg
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