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Feb 19, 2011, 7:43:05 PM2/19/11
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Pranaam.

In one of the mails, Sri IVN Acharya, uses the word Mantapa. In fact, we are under the impression that Mandapa is the right word. (If it is typing error, no more discussion)

मडि भूषायां - धातुः। मण्डनमेव मण्डः (अच् प्रत्ययान्तः)। तं मण्डं (वाय्वादिभ्यः) पातीति - मण्डपम् (गेहं, शाला वेति) व्युत्पत्तिरिति मन्यामहे।
More thoughts or alternative  Etymological derivativations (If any) are welcome.
 
With Warm Regards
Vamshi K Ghanapathi
---------------------
सर्वं ब्रह्ममयम्


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    Surendra Mohan Mishra <dr.surendramo...@gmail.com> Feb 19 10:01AM +0530 ^
     
    Thanks Shri Senani ji, This is my point of inquiry.I want printed
    text/manuscript evidence to get the clue as to whether this was an integral
    part or this is a later interpolation.In case of the latter
    possibility,around what time could this have occured.No doubt this is a
    highly respected text in the Shaiva-Shaakta tradition.Regards,SMM.
     
     
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    "Dr. Yadu Moharir" <ymoh...@yahoo.com> Feb 19 05:14AM -0800 ^
     
    Namaste:
     
    P.V. Kane in History of Dharmashaastra comments that
    satyanaaraayana vrata kathA is found in Calcutta Edition of skanda
    puraaNa but is not in the Bombay edition., aanadaasharma.  Satyanaaraana
    is a common surname in Bihar and nearby region.
     
    In
    Maharashttra, Psehava were well known for keeping accounts of every
    penny spent for all rituals.  There is no historical evidence that
    satyanaaraayaNa puujaa was practiced during that period in Maharashtra.  He further concludes that the is ritual seems to have migrated from East to the South via Maharashtra.
     
    I would appreciate if someone can provide any specific evidence of this ritual-practice in Southern India.
     
    *************************************
    Here is some additional
    information about satya pir & satya naaraayaNa connection in one of the
    research books.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Human
    fertility cults and rituals of Bengal: a comparative study
     
     By
    Pradyot Kumar Maity
     
     Abhinav Publications, 1989
     
     
     
    http://books.google.com/books?id=gJS1slWE4X4C&pg=PA110&lpg=PA110&dq=satya+pir&source=bl&ots=q4580itoVS&sig=ns_g5SEKRpr1hSpgybdf8hGbe-c&hl=en&ei=m_2RTJKnEZC-sQPZy-XACg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CDkQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=satya%20pir&f=false
     
     
     
    http://tinyurl.com/24ahba8
     
     
     
    Please read pages 17, 109, 110, 111, 123, 126, 165, and 217.
     
     
     
    ***************************************
     
     
     
    The satya pir story (vrata katha) as I have found through other sources is as
    follows:
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    http://learningobjects.wesleyan.edu/naya/scrolls/09_shotopir.html
     
     
     
    Satya
    Pir
     
    Jamuna Chitrakar
     
    Where
    are you o Satya Pir; I’m in your hands. Who else but you can save us from
    shame?You
    are Narayan for the Hindus, Pir for the Momins You are famous for having
    sinni (offering) from both the races. Satya
    Pir says—I’ll take the name Satya (truth) & establish my identity to
    the king of Sindhu (Sind?) having
    thought thus Satya Pir went to the kingdom disguised as mendicant (fakir).He
    tells the king—you’ll have a child by my blessings if you worship me. The
    king asked—what are the things that are required to worship you? The fakir
    said—let me tell you first. You
    must give me a house & tie a cow & her calf there. The
    king & queen promised to do it. Some time later a son was born to
    them.They
    forgot all about the sinni. Then the child died from cholera & small
    pox. Oh
    what bad luck? I’ve lost everything in my old age.The
    omniscient one came to know & appeared to the king & said in his
    heart How
    could you forget to give me sinni?In
    his sleep the king showed arrogance. In sorrow the Pir went to the forest.
    The
    royal couple went for trade on a ship. The ship sank in the deep sea.The
    king & the queen invoked Satya Pir to save them.Listen
    to me—king. Why did you make promises? Both
    the king & the queen said—Baba, if you save us from drowning we’ll
    keep our promise. By
    the grace of the Pir, the sunken ship came up at the bank  The
    dead child was brought to life. The king & queen worshipped the Pir
    once they reached home. A
    golden shelter was provided & a cow with her calf tied to it.The
    queen offered sinni & cooked food to Pir. From that day the worship of
    Pir became popular.Sanatan
    Mondol was a well known miser of the village. He refused to worship the
    Pir.  A
    tiger bit the rascal on his shoulder while a crocodile was pulling at his
    legs. He
    was dying from being pulled apart from both sides. His fellow villagers
    said look the miser is dying.Let
    the scoundrel die. What had he left for this world?
     
     
      end the tribute to Pir here. Both Hindus & Muslim bow to him
     
     
    ********************
     
    Regards,
     
    Dr. Yadu
     
    --- On Fri, 2/18/11, Surendra Mohan Mishra <dr.surendramo...@gmail.com> wrote:
     
    From: Surendra Mohan Mishra <dr.surendramo...@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} GurugItA in SkandapurANa
    To: bvpar...@googlegroups.com
    Date: Friday, February 18, 2011, 9:31 PM
     
    Thanks Shri Senani ji, This is my point of inquiry.I want printed text/manuscript evidence to get the clue as to whether this was an integral part or this is a later interpolation.In case of the latter possibility,around what time could this have occured.No doubt this is a highly respected text in the Shaiva-Shaakta tradition.Regards,SMM.
     
     
     
     
     
    2011/2/18 Director, CIF <dire...@chinfo.org>
     
     
     
     
     
    Dear Mishraji
    Namaskar
    Gurugita is from the Skandapurana and it published in many places one of that I am sending one copy for you.
     
    With regards and love
     
     
    2011/2/18 Surendra Mohan Mishra <dr.surendramo...@gmail.com>
     
     
     
     
    Esteemed Scholars,
     
    I have a point to clarify.The celebrated GurugItA is considered to be a part of the Uttara-khaNDa of the Skanda-purANa as shown by the colophon of the GurugItA.In many printed editions of the SkandapurANa,as I got it, the GurugItA portion is missing.Can anybody kindly enlighten me on any printed text / manuscript which has the GurugItA as an itegral part ?
     
     
     
    Regards,
     
    SMMishra
     
    --
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    Dept of Sanskrit,Pali & Prakrit
    Faculty of Indic Studies,Kurukshetra University
    KURUKSHETRA-136 119,Haryana,INDIA
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    --
    अथ चेत्त्वमिमं धर्म्यं संग्रामं न करिष्यसि।
    ततः स्वधर्मं कीर्तिं च हित्वा पापमवाप्स्यसि।।
    तस्मादुत्तिष्ठ कौन्तेय युद्धाय कृतनिश्चयः।
    निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)
     
     
     
     
     
    --
    Dr. Dilip Kumar Rana
    Director
    Chinmaya International Foundation Shodha Sansthan
    Veliyanad, Ernakulam, Kerala-682319
    M-09567761194, 0484 2747104( telefax)
     
     
     
     
    --
    अथ चेत्त्वमिमं धर्म्यं संग्रामं न करिष्यसि।
    ततः स्वधर्मं कीर्तिं च हित्वा पापमवाप्स्यसि।।
    तस्मादुत्तिष्ठ कौन्तेय युद्धाय कृतनिश्चयः।
    निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    --
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    Surendramohan Mishra
    Dept of Sanskrit,Pali & Prakrit
    Faculty of Indic Studies,Kurukshetra University
    KURUKSHETRA-136 119,Haryana,INDIA
    Tel : (Off.)01744 238410(extn.)2504
     
     
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    --
    अथ चेत्त्वमिमं धर्म्यं संग्रामं न करिष्यसि।
    ततः स्वधर्मं कीर्तिं च हित्वा पापमवाप्स्यसि।।
    तस्मादुत्तिष्ठ कौन्तेय युद्धाय कृतनिश्चयः।
    निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    --
     
    अथ चेत्त्वमिमं धर्म्यं संग्रामं न करिष्यसि।
     
    ततः स्वधर्मं कीर्तिं च हित्वा पापमवाप्स्यसि।।
     
    तस्मादुत्तिष्ठ कौन्तेय युद्धाय कृतनिश्चयः।
     
    निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)
     
     
     
     
    --
    *****
    Surendramohan Mishra
    Dept of Sanskrit,Pali & Prakrit
    Faculty of Indic Studies,Kurukshetra University
    KURUKSHETRA-136 119,Haryana,INDIA
     
    Tel : (Off.)01744 238410(extn.)2504
    (Mob.)098960 86579;(Res.)01744-238567
    Blogs : http://surendrashastram.blogspot.com
                http://surendra-shaastram.blogspot.com
     
     
     
     
    --
     
    अथ चेत्त्वमिमं धर्म्यं संग्रामं न करिष्यसि।
     
    ततः स्वधर्मं कीर्तिं च हित्वा पापमवाप्स्यसि।।
     
    तस्मादुत्तिष्ठ कौन्तेय युद्धाय कृतनिश्चयः।
     
    निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)

     

    "hnbhat B.R." <hnbh...@gmail.com> Feb 19 04:38PM +0530 ^
     
    It was simply considered as sysnonym of wife and husband, couples as found
    in usage and noted in lexicons of classical Sanskrit as noted by AmaraSimha:
     
    2.6.38 **दंपती जंपती *जायापती* भार्यापती च तौ
    The same tradition was followed for grammatical analysis by grammarians and
    even though दम has got the meaning of house, it was not seen recorded in the
    meaning of "two house holders" as given by Monier Williams. This meaning can
    be the same as used in Vedic occurences, if any deviating in sense.
    Generally used in duel everywhere in the sense of couple.(generalization of
    the meaning, leaving house and wife specific meaning apart). Here is the
    concordance with the vedic usage of the word in duel in respect of Asvins,
    (for which the meaning damasya pati = house holder) is given. In classical
    language, it is used in the sense of couples and accordingly the द्वन्द्व
    compound has been explained by Panini to suit the meaning in the classical
    language.
     
    (H3) दम्--पति [p= 469,2][L=90248]m. (द्/अम्-) (= δεσ- the lord of the
    > > (H1) दम्-पति [p= 469,3][L=90317]» 2. द्/अम्
    > > (H2) दम्-पति [p= 1328,3][L=333350](accord. to some = "lord,
    > master", fr. √दंस् + प्° [cf. दन् above] ; ई, du., "master and mistress").
     
    Here are the other references for the word दम्पति - RV.10.162.4b;
    AVS´.20.96.14b; *AVP.7.11.5b;*
    MG.2.18.2b.
     
    The others are later Dharmasastra texts and the first one is the basis of
    Monier Williams explanation for deriving it from dama+pati meaning
    householders.
     
    Hope this would be helpful for your further enquiry. And it was simply
    included by Panini's classification under the द्वन्द्व compound following
    its classical usage for which Prof. Korada has provided support for both the
    interpretations. Even if the meaning of householder is to be explained by
    the same word outside grammar or Dharmashastra. as can be seen in the
    occurrences in the Bloomfield's concordance given above. For history, you
    can refer to the original sources provided by the list. For classical usage,
    there are many, but only for the meaning of householders, a special query
    may be needed going through all the occurrences. As per the texts, in
    Digital Sanskrit corpus it is used in duel only and the meaning in each
    occurrence can be checked online from the database with context.
     
    --
    Dr. Hari Narayana Bhat B.R.
    EFEO,
    PONDICHERRY

     

    iragavarapu narasimhacharya <insac...@gmail.com> Feb 19 01:21PM +0530 ^
     
    प्रिय विद्वत्सुहृदः,
    प्रणम्य।"एकस्स्वादु न भुञ्जीत"अत्रेदमवधार्यताम्भॊः।"ज्ञानेन्द्रियाणां
    शिरसः अधस्ताद्विद्यमानत्वे वेदॊक्तं कारणम्।"
    श्रुतिः"शिरॊ वा एतद्यज्ञस्य य द्धविर्धानं प्राणा उपरवा हविर्धाने
    खायन्ते तस्मा च्छीर्षन्प्राणा
    अधस्ता त्खायन्ते तस्मा
    दधस्ताच्छीर्ष्णःप्राणाः"॥(कृ.य.सं.६.कां.२.प्र.११.अनु.)
    (तात्पर्यम्) यज्ञपुरुषस्य हविर्धान नाम्नी शाला शिरस्स्थानीया।
    तच्छालायां "उपरव"नामानि बिलानि यज्ञपुरुष्स्य
    ज्ञानेन्द्रियस्थानीयानि।इति॥
    हविर्धानं नाम:--यज्ञे प्राग्वंश इति,सदः इति,हविर्धानमिति,अग्नीध्र इति
    नामभिः मण्टपानां शाला
    चतुष्टयं भवति। हविर्धानशालायां दक्षिणतः सूक्ष्मचक्रसहितं शकटं
    ऊर्ध्वभागे निर्मीयते। एवं तस्यामेव शालायां ऊत्तरतः सूक्ष्मशकटं
    निर्मीयते। एतानि चक्राणि लॊके बालैः क्रीडितताळफलचक्रैः
    उपमीयन्ते।उपरवस्वरूपम्:--हविर्धानशालायां दक्षिणदिग्भागस्य
    पश्चिमतःआग्नेय,नैरृति,वायव्य,ईशान्यादिविदिक्षु भूमौ उपरव’नामानि बिलानि
    चत्वारि खन्यन्ते। तानि बिलानि बाहुदघ्नानि भवेयुः। बहिःपरिधिः
    प्रादेशमात्रं भवेत्। खानितबिलानां मध्ये व्यवधानमपि प्रादेशमात्रमेव
    स्यात्। एतद्बिलचतुष्टयस्य अधॊभागेपि एकीकरणं स्यात्।
    अर्थात्-एतद्बिलानामधस्ता देकस्माद्बिलादन्यस्य बिलस्य मार्गॊ भवेत्।
    हविर्धानशालानिर्माणमेवं क्रियते।
    एतद्धविर्धानशाला यज्ञस्य शिरस्स्थानीया। अत्र दक्षिणभागस्थोपरवबिलानि
    श्रॊत्र,नासिकादि छिद्रगत (प्राण) इन्द्रियस्थानीयानि।
    एतदिन्द्रियस्थानीयान्युपरवबिलानि यज्ञपुरुषस्य शिरस्स्थानीय
    हविर्धानशालायां खन्यमानत्वात् सृष्टौ शिरसॊऽधस्ता दर्था
    च्छिरःकपालस्याधस्ता
    देव प्राणसञ्चारेण ज्ञानेन्द्रियाणि शिरसॊधस्तादेव सन्तीति, उपरि न
    सन्तीति वेदः वेदयति।
    ज्ञानेन्द्रियाणामन्तरैक्यतां प्रति श्रुतिः:---"संतृणत्ति तस्मा
    त्संतृण्णा अन्तरतः प्राणाः"(कृ.य.)
    एतदुपरवबिलचतुष्टयस्य अधस्तादन्यॊन्यैक्येन स्थितत्वात् लोकेपि
    ज्ञानेन्द्रियाणामन्तरैक्य
    मस्तीति वेदः बोधयति।
    अस्माकमनुभवोऽप्येवमस्ति।श्रोत्रयोः,कर्णयोः,कण्ठस्य,नासिकारन्ध्रयॊः
    चक्षुषोर्मध्ये च अन्तः मार्गोऽस्तीति। वेदोक्तविषयाः लोके दृश्यन्ते।
    लोकस्य वेदस्य च मध्ये
    स्थितास्संबन्धाः अन्वेषणीयास्सन्ति खलु।"यदिहास्ति तदन्यत्र यन्नेहास्ति
    न तत्क्वचित्"
    (अनुवर्तते)
    अभिवाद्य,
    ऐएन्नेस्साचार्य<ऐएन्नेस्साचार्य॒जीमेयिल्.काम्>

     

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    Ananda Ghanam <ananda...@gmail.com> Feb 19 11:35AM +0530 ^
     
    Regarding Dampatee and Jampatee:
     
    I want to bring to your notice that Jaayaa Shabda - is substituted with the
    Syllable Jam and Dam; by the way of Nipaata. This is noted in Gana Paatha.
     
    The word Dama/ Daama/ Dhaama does not have an etymological connection.
     
    With Warm Regards
    Vamshi K Ghanapathi
    ---------------------
    सर्वं ब्रह्ममयम्
     
     

     

    Dipak Bhattacharya <dbhattach...@yahoo.com> Feb 19 11:48AM +0530 ^
     
    But this is a statement of facts which even a non-grammarian who knows the meaning of the word can see. The grammatical rule adds nothing but furnishes one with aid for remembering the meaning.
    The history of the word is discussed on a different plane without necessarily coming into conflict with the pedagogically framed normative-grammatical  rule. The former has its own value.
    Best
    DB
     
    --- On Sat, 19/2/11, Ananda Ghanam <ananda...@gmail.com> wrote:
     
    From: Ananda Ghanam <ananda...@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्}
    To: bvpar...@googlegroups.com
    Date: Saturday, 19 February, 2011, 6:05 AM
     
    Regarding Dampatee and Jampatee:
    I want to bring to your notice that Jaayaa Shabda - is substituted with the Syllable Jam and Dam; by the way of Nipaata. This is noted in Gana Paatha.
     
     
    The word Dama/ Daama/ Dhaama does not have an etymological connection.
    With Warm Regards
    Vamshi K Ghanapathi
    ---------------------
    सर्वं ब्रह्ममयम्
     
     
     
    On 19 February 2011 05:20, <bvparisha...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
     
     
     
    Today's Topic Summary
    Group: http://groups.google.com/group/bvparishat/topics
     
    GurugItA in SkandapurANa [4 Updates]
    Information regarding Bruhatkalikapurana [1 Update]
    Question on various smRiti's [1 Update]
    Significance In The Use Of Right Hand-----A Reference In The Scriptures [1 Update]
    Etymology of the word "Dampati" [1 Update]
    censue & sanskrit, भारत की जनगणना एवं संस्कृत [1 Update]
    Foundation Day Celebrations [1 Update]
    request for meaning [1 Update]
     
     
     
     


     Topic: GurugItA in SkandapurANa
     
     
     


    Surendra Mohan Mishra <dr.surendramo...@gmail.com> Feb 18 11:40AM +0530
    ^
     

     
     
    Esteemed Scholars,
     
     
     
    I have a point to clarify.The celebrated GurugItA is considered to be a part
     
    of the Uttara-khaNDa of the Skanda-purANa as shown by the colophon of the
     
    GurugItA.In many printed editions of the SkandapurANa,as I got it, the
     
    GurugItA portion is missing.Can anybody kindly enlighten me on any printed
     
    text / manuscript which has the GurugItA as an itegral part ?
     
     
     
    Regards,
     
     
     
    SMMishra
     
     
     
    --
     
    *****
     
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    Dept of Sanskrit,Pali & Prakrit
     
    Faculty of Indic Studies,Kurukshetra University
     
    KURUKSHETRA-136 119,Haryana,INDIA
     
    Tel : (Off.)01744 238410(extn.)2504
     
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    "Director, CIF" <dire...@chinfo.org> Feb 18 02:42PM +0530
    ^
     

     
     
    Dear Mishraji
     
    Namaskar
     
    Gurugita is from the Skandapurana and it published in many places one of
     
    that I am sending one copy for you.
     
     
     
    With regards and love
     
     
     
    2011/2/18 Surendra Mohan Mishra <dr.surendramo...@gmail.com>
     
     
     
     
     
    --
     
    Dr. Dilip Kumar Rana
     
    Director
     
    Chinmaya International Foundation Shodha Sansthan
     
    Veliyanad, Ernakulam, Kerala-682319
     
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    Surendra Mohan Mishra <dr.surendramo...@gmail.com> Feb 18 05:14PM +0530
    ^
     

     
     
    Dear Ranababu,
     
    Thanks for the reply.Can you tell me the edition/critical edition of the
     
    SkandapurANa from which this is taken ? And in your knowledge,is there a
     
    version of SkP which doesn't have the GurugItA section ?
     
    Warm regards,
     
    SMMishra
     
     
     
     
     
    2011/2/18 Director, CIF <dire...@chinfo.org>
     
     
     
     
     
    --
     
    *****
     
    Surendramohan Mishra
     
    Dept of Sanskrit,Pali & Prakrit
     
    Faculty of Indic Studies,Kurukshetra University
     
    KURUKSHETRA-136 119,Haryana,INDIA
     
    Tel : (Off.)01744 238410(extn.)2504
     
    (Mob.)098960 86579;(Res.)01744-238567
     
    Blogs : http://surendrashastram.blogspot.com
     
    http://surendra-shaastram.blogspot.com
     
     
     



    Sivasenani Nori <sivas...@gmail.com> Feb 18 11:17PM +0530
    ^
     

     
     
    Sir
     
     
     
    I somewhere heard that skAndapurANa is the favourite for nikshiptas, that is
     
    insertions. If someone wants some piece to pass off as purANa, it is simply
     
    inserted in the skAnda. One example is the SatyanArAyaNasvAmivrata section
     
    in the RevakhaNDa - apparently outside of South-Central India (with a bit of
     
    spillover in the East and deep South), this particular section of
     
    skAndapurANa is not popular.
     
     
     
    I wonder if this accusation about skAndapurANa is true?
     
     
     
    Regards
     
    N. Siva Senani
     
     
     
    2011/2/18 Surendra Mohan Mishra <dr.surendramo...@gmail.com>
     
     
     
     
     


     


     Topic: Information regarding Bruhatkalikapurana
     
     
     


    dashrathlal vedia <d.g....@gmail.com> Feb 18 09:34PM +0530
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    Dear Scholars,
     
     
     
    Limbachpurana is said to be the part of the Bruhat Kalikapurana . But I
     
    have the information regarding the Kalikapranas: (1) Kalikaprana Uppurana
     
    and (20 Kalikapurana a jnatiprana of kansara community. I did not find
     
    Bruhat Kalikaprana. If any scholar has information pl. furnish me with the
     
    complete details.
     
     
     
    Thanks & Regards,
     
     
     
    Dr.D.G.Vedia
     
     
     


     


     Topic: Question on various smRiti's
     
     
     


    dashrathlal vedia <d.g....@gmail.com> Feb 18 08:57PM +0530
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    Dear Scholar,
     
     
     
    It is ashtonishing that Kokila smriti which is reffered in
     
    SHIMALAPURANA is not mentioned in the list. Pl. note.
     
     
     
    With regards
     
     
     
    D.G.Vedia
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    2010/12/31 subrahmanyam korada <kora...@gmail.com>
     
     
     
     
     
    --
     
    Thanks & Regards,
     
     
     
    Dr.D.G.Vedia
     
     
     


     


     Topic: Significance In The Use Of Right Hand-----A Reference In The Scriptures
     
     
     


    dashrathlal vedia <d.g....@gmail.com> Feb 18 08:34PM +0530
    ^
     

     
     
    Dear Scholar,
     
    You have nicely and properly discussed the point.
     
     
     
     
     
    with regards,
     
    Dr.D.G.Vedia
     
     
     
    2010/12/31 iragavarapu narasimhacharya <insac...@gmail.com>
     
     
     
     
     
    --
     
    Thanks & Regards,
     
     
     
    Dr.D.G.Vedia
     
     
     


     


     Topic: Etymology of the word "Dampati"
     
     
     


    dashrathlal vedia <d.g....@gmail.com> Feb 18 08:26PM +0530
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    Dear Scholar,
     
     
     
    My problem is that when there is word 'Dama for house why one should derive
     
    the word " Dampati' through 'Jampati.....Please clarify this
     
    problem puzzling me.
     
     
     
     
     
    with best regards,
     
     
     
    Dr.D.G.Vedia
     
     
     
    2011/2/17 subrahmanyam korada <kora...@gmail.com>
     
     
     
     
     
    --
     
    Thanks & Regards,
     
     
     
    Dr.D.G.Vedia
     
     
     


     


     Topic: censue & sanskrit, भारत की जनगणना एवं संस्कृत
     
     
     


    Surendra Mohan Mishra <dr.surendramo...@gmail.com> Feb 18 11:23AM +0530
    ^
     

     
     
    Thanks Dr Kartikeyan, to ascribe to Samskrita this epithet "God's Own
     
    Language" ! In fact this is so.For the MImAmsaka-s this could be "god's own
     
    language" as there is no "God"in the system,but "gods" as Indra,Agni etc. do
     
    exist..For the materialist this also could be a fast language for health and
     
    wealth and wisdom.The wise are also "gods" as per the S'atapatha
     
    BrAhmaNa.Thus the secularly wise are no less godly ! They may adopt
     
    Samskrita as a sure way to know the best details of material existence.
     
     
     
    I look forward to the day when lacs and crores of our people, very
     
    truthfully, would be in a position to mention Samskrita as their Mother
     
    tongue.So far we have to adopt this pAk.sika satya as a need.
     
     
     
    There was a long debate on how to write 'Sanskrit' in Roman.I have finally
     
    decided to write "Samskrita" and have asked my students to do so.In the
     
    South or South-east,if someone writes "Samskruta" I have no objection.The
     
    best is '.r' but this is not keyboard-friendly in fast writing.But that 'n'
     
    in the word must be replaced with 'm'.Let this be a good start for the kind
     
    of Samskrita we want to spread sincerely.Shakespeare may argue as to what is
     
    there in a name,but in BhArata a name signifies a lot.Our nAmakarana
     
    samskAra testifies to this fact.
     
     
     
    Regards,
     
    SMM
     
     
     
    2011/2/17 karthik tv <karthi...@yahoo.co.in>
     
     
     
     
     
    --
     
    *****
     
    Surendramohan Mishra
     
    Dept of Sanskrit,Pali & Prakrit
     
    Faculty of Indic Studies,Kurukshetra University
     
    KURUKSHETRA-136 119,Haryana,INDIA
     
    Tel : (Off.)01744 238410(extn.)2504
     
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     Topic: Foundation Day Celebrations
     
     
     


    Surendra Mohan Mishra <dr.surendramo...@gmail.com> Feb 18 10:57AM +0530
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    *//श्री://
     
    Dear Dr Rana,
     
    It's a proud occasion that the CIF Shodha Samsthanam is going to celebrate
     
    the completion of it' third year of dedicated service to the growth of
     
    Samskrita and Indological studies and research having a national and global
     
    reach.
     
    I congratulate you and your colleagues and Swami Advayananda on the eve and
     
    wish the celebration and academic program great success :
     
    शतं जीवतु कल्याणी सहस्रं च तथा समाः /
     
    संस्था शंकरनिलये वेदावेदांतशोधिनी //
     
    Warmest regards,
     
    S M Mishra*
     
     
     
     
     
    2011/2/17 Director, CIF <dire...@chinfo.org>
     
     
     
     
     
    --
     
    *****
     
    Surendramohan Mishra
     
    Dept of Sanskrit,Pali & Prakrit
     
    Faculty of Indic Studies,Kurukshetra University
     
    KURUKSHETRA-136 119,Haryana,INDIA
     
    Tel : (Off.)01744 238410(extn.)2504
     
    (Mob.)098960 86579;(Res.)01744-238567
     
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    http://surendra-shaastram.blogspot.com
     
     
     


     


     Topic: request for meaning
     
     
     


    "Saroja Bhate" <sar...@bhates.net> Feb 18 10:34AM +0530
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    Thanks I will check Kiraata
     
     
     
    Bhate.
     
     
     

     
     
     
    _____
     
     
     
    From: bvpar...@googlegroups.com [mailto:bvpar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sampath Kannan
     
     
     
    Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 05:04 AM
     
    To: bvpar...@googlegroups.com
     
    Subject: RE: {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} request for meaning
     
     
     

     
     
     
     
     
    karoti no...
     
    is kirAtArjunIya 3.51
     
     
     
    --- On Wed, 2/16/11, Saroja Bhate <sar...@bhates.net> wrote:
     
     
     
     
     
    From: Saroja Bhate <sar...@bhates.net>
     
    Subject: RE: {???????????????????} request for meaning
     
    To: bvpar...@googlegroups.com
     
    Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 10:21 AM
     
     
     
    Dr.s Bhatji and Kannanji
     
     
     
    Back to the verse:
     
     
     
    Pancatantra Subodhinee 1.65 says:
     
     
     
    Medhaavinah…..neetiguNaprayuktaam, neetirucito vyavahaarah sa eva guNastena prayuktaamanuSThitaam apaayasandarshanajaamapaayo durupayogastasya samdarshanaat jaataamarthaadanumitaamvipattim… upaayasandarshanajaam, upaayah soopayogah Saadgunyaroopah tatsandarshanaajjatam ca siddhim laabharoopaam purahsphuranteem agre spaSTam bhaasamaanaamaayaanteem iva darshayanti.
     
     
     
     
     
    I think now it is clear.Here are two more for your consideration: karoti no’sheshajanaatiriktaam sambhaavanaamarthavateem kriyaabhih/ samsatsu jaate puruSaadhikaare na pooraNee tam samupaiti samkhyaa// narasya cihnam narakaagatasya virodhitaa bandhujaneSu nityam/ sarogataa neecagateSu sevaa hyateeva doSah kaTukaa ca vaaNee//
     
     
     
     
     
    Dhanyavaadaah
     
     
     
    Bhate
     
     
     

     
     
     

     
     
     
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    From: bvpar...@googlegroups.com [mailto: bvpar...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of hnbhat B.R.
     
     
     
    Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 09:29 PM
     
    To: bvpar...@googlegroups.com
     
    Subject: Re: {???????????????????} request for meaning
     
     
     

     
     
     
    2011/2/12 Saroja Bhate <sar...@bhates.net>
     
     
     
    Kannanji,I don’t see any avagraha in the printed text. Would it make any sense?
     
     
     
    Please neglect my previous mail I could trace your mail.
     
     
     
    Bhate
     
     
     

     
     
     

     
     
     
    Dear madam,
     
     
     

     
     
     
    I think you have not read my second mail completely.
     
     
     

     
     
     
    It has to be interpreted in both ways by shleSha and hence the print doesn't show the "avagraha" as it would bar one of the interpretations. Only by :shleSha" even without the sign, one can interpret in both ways. If "avagraha" sign appears it bars the other interpretation naturally. Thats why the editors haven't put the "avagraha" sign intentionally.
     
     
     
     
     

     
     
     
    Please go through my mail if available. If not I will forward the same again.
     
     
     

     
     
     
    With regards
     
     
     
    --
     
    Dr. Hari Narayana Bhat B.R.
     
    EFEO,
     
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    अथ चेत्त्वमिमं धर्म्यं संग्रामं न करिष्यसि।
     
    ततः स्वधर्मं कीर्तिं च हित्वा पापमवाप्स्यसि।।
     
    तस्मादुत्तिष्ठ कौन्तेय युद्धाय कृतनिश्चयः।
     
    निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)
     
     
     
     
     
     
    --
     
    अथ चेत्त्वमिमं धर्म्यं संग्रामं न करिष्यसि।
     
    ततः स्वधर्मं कीर्तिं च हित्वा पापमवाप्स्यसि।।
     
    तस्मादुत्तिष्ठ कौन्तेय युद्धाय कृतनिश्चयः।
     
    निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)

     

    Dipak Bhattacharya <dbhattach...@yahoo.com> Feb 19 11:20AM +0530 ^
     
    Dear Dr. pandurangi,
    I was long out of station. Otherwise I would have aleady communicated the following to you.
    One of the best, if not the best, authorities on Charvaka in India is Dr.Ramkrishna Bhattacharya. He may be contacted at
     
    "ramkrishna bhattacharya"        <puran...@rediffmail.com>
     
    best wishes
    D.Bhattacharya
     
    --- On Fri, 11/2/11, Veeranarayana Pandurangi <veer...@gmail.com> wrote:
     
    From: Veeranarayana Pandurangi <veer...@gmail.com>
    Subject: {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} refutation of charvakas
    To: bvpar...@googlegroups.com
    Date: Friday, 11 February, 2011, 6:52 AM
     
    dear colleaguesI want to know where in Nyaya or other shastras, charvakas are refuted vehemently and on what grounds? I want some references.
     
    --
    Veeranarayana N.K. Pandurangi
    Head, Dept of Darshanas,
     
    Yoganandacharya Bhavan,
    Jagadguru Ramanandacharya Rajasthan Samskrita University, Madau, post Bhankrota, Jaipur, 302026.
     
    अथ चेत्त्वमिमं धर्म्यं संग्रामं न करिष्यसि।
    ततः स्वधर्मं कीर्तिं च हित्वा पापमवाप्स्यसि।।
    तस्मादुत्तिष्ठ कौन्तेय युद्धाय कृतनिश्चयः।
    निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)
     
     
     
     
     
    --
     
    अथ चेत्त्वमिमं धर्म्यं संग्रामं न करिष्यसि।
     
    ततः स्वधर्मं कीर्तिं च हित्वा पापमवाप्स्यसि।।
     
    तस्मादुत्तिष्ठ कौन्तेय युद्धाय कृतनिश्चयः।
     
    निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)

     

    rniyengar <narayana...@gmail.com> Feb 18 09:15PM -0800 ^
     
    Dear Scholars,
    My question was about Fire on the DP-Vedi and not in the DP-ritual. I
    have come to the conclusion that there is no fire on the DP-vedi aka
    Antarvedi.
    There was a meeting organized by TIFR at Bombay on Archaeoastronomy. I
    made a brief presentation on the astronomy behind the Dars’a-
    pūrnamāsa altar or the Antarvedi that is situated between the
    Gārhapatya and the Ahavanīya Fires. Some leading astronomers,
    physicists, archaeologists and Sanskrit scholars were present in the
    select audience. The talk was well received even though I cannot say
    that everyone was happy with my work. Those interested in “Vedic
    Astronomy/Science” may go through my presentation available at
     
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/49133364/Vedic-astronomy-behind-the-darsha-purnamasa-altar
     
    Please note the above is only a slide presentation. I am yet to write
    up my findings in the form of a paper. During the talk I provided
    several clarifications to the slides. These are missing in the above
    file, but the main line of reasoning would be still clear.
     
    Regards
     
    RN Iyengar
     

     

    iragavarapu narasimhacharya <insac...@gmail.com> Feb 19 10:10AM +0530 ^
     
    परिषदं प्रणम्य।
    महॊदयाः,सप्रणामम्। वेदे यदस्ति तदेवोपस्थापितम्भॊः। न मदीयं किमप्यत्र।
    भाषान्तरपरिवर्तनमेव स्वकीयम्। भवादृशैरामॊदित इति मॊदे।
    धन्यवादः,
    ऐएन्नेस्।
     

     

--
अथ चेत्त्वमिमं धर्म्यं संग्रामं न करिष्यसि।
ततः स्वधर्मं कीर्तिं च हित्वा पापमवाप्स्यसि।।
तस्मादुत्तिष्ठ कौन्तेय युद्धाय कृतनिश्चयः।
निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)

hnbhat B.R.

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Feb 19, 2011, 9:28:45 PM2/19/11
to bvpar...@googlegroups.com
Dear Sir, 

You are right in the derivation, but for some modifications needed.

मडि भूषायाम् = मण्डनम् मण्डः, घञ् "भावे | ३. ३. १९" and not अच्।  मण्डम् = भूषाम्, पातीति मण्डप इति सुस्थमेव। पा रक्षणे इत्यतः "३. २. ३ आतोऽनुपसर्गे कः"। 

मडि धातोरेव औणादिके कपन् प्रत्यये च मण्डपो भवतीति कस्यचिन्मते। एवमेव मण्डपी, मण्टपी इत्योषधिभेदे ऽपि विपर्ययः। यद्यौणादिकः, तदा, प्रकृतिप्रत्यययोः, औचित्यानुसारेण कल्पनीयत्वात्, मटि + कपन् + ङीप् इत्यपि कल्पयितुं शक्यः, यदि प्रामाणिकः प्रयोगः। 

मण्डं पिबति इति मण्डपः,
"भिस्सटा दग्धिका सर्वरसाऽग्रे मण्डमस्त्रियाम् ( २. ८. १२७१)" इति अमरात्, मण्डपानकर्तरि त्रिषु।

जनाश्रये (आरामगृहे), देवादिस्थाने च द्वयोः, मण्डपानकर्तरि त्रिषु प्रयोगः। यदा आरमगृहे प्रयोगः, तदा, मण्डं पिबन्त्यत्रेति वा व्युत्पादयितुं शक्य एव। इति प्रतिभाति।

शेषे शेषा अशेषा विद्वांसः प्रमाणम्।

iragavarapu narasimhacharya

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Feb 20, 2011, 1:36:41 AM2/20/11
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भो सुहृदः,
वन्दे।"मण्डपस्य" मण्टप इत्यपि वैदिकक्रियाकलापेषु श्रूयमाणत्वात्
व्यवहारे अस्तीति बुद्ध्या
प्रयुक्तम्भोः।"टडयोस्स्थानं मूर्धा" एवेति मत्या च तथा प्रयुक्तम्।
अभिवाद्य,
ऐएन्नेस्।

S P Narang

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Feb 20, 2011, 6:48:57 AM2/20/11
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Regards, Mandapam and mantapam are the variants only. d.a is found in a number of words like man.d.aa = fat bread ( a heaplike bread)l ; man.d.ii = a place where people come together in a rush for sale and purchase. Its derivation may be from the word Mr.t = made of earth and man.d.apa may be similar in structure. Also: man.d.aavalii, man.d.olii etc. Man.d.ala in architectural sense is also related to man.d.apa which are not only in Megh0 of KD but also structures in java and Bali etc. for Bauddha archtectural structures like Stuupa and preserved by UNESCO as Heritage Structures. A number of similar words in Indo-Aryan can be found in Turner: Dictionary: available on internet also. spnarang

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