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This is by far one of the best articles I have read on the subject. Enjoy.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/remnant/passion.htm
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Christ Crucified

An update on the controversy surrounding Mel Gibson’s film— Passion

Mark Alessio

REMNANT COLUMNIST, New York

For both the Jews require signs: and the Greeks seek after wisdom. But we preach
Christ crucified: unto the Jews indeed a stumbling block, and unto the Gentiles
foolishness: But unto them that are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ, the
power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than
men: and the weakness of God is stronger than men. (1 Co. 1:20-25)

In July of 2003, Mel Gibson traveled throughout the country giving special
screenings of a rough-cut of his new film, Passion, to select small audiences.
A screening in Colorado Springs for a group of prominent evangelical leaders won
Passion the unqualified support of the National Association of Evangelicals
(NAE). Ted Haggard, president of the NAE described the film as "a beautiful,
wonderful account of the last twelve hours of the life of Jesus Christ ....
consistent with Matthew, Mark, Luke and John."

The attendees for a special screening in Washington, DC included Motion Picture
Association of America President Jack Valenti, internet columnist Matt Drudge,
novelist William Peter Blatty (author of The Exorcist) columnists Peggy Noonan,
Cal Thomas and Kate O’Beirne, onetime labor secretary nominee Linda Chavez, and
a number of politicians including White House staffer David Kuo, deputy director
of the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. MPAA President Valenti
commented: "This is a compelling piece of art. I just called Kirk Douglas and
told him that this is the movie to beat." Matt Drudge, speaking to Pat Buchanan
on MSNBC’s Buchanan & the Press, offered his reactions (as a Jewish viewer) to
the film: “This is the ultimate film. It's magical. Best picture I have seen in
quite some time, and even people like Jack Valenti were in the audience in tears
at this screening.”

While in Washington, Mel Gibson visited the U.S. Bishop’s headquarters, where he
spoke with the United States Catholic Conference of Bishops’ (USCCB) General
Secretary Msgr. William P. Fay. According to Msgr. Fay, Gibson stopped by to
make it clear that he held no animosity towards the USCCB over reports that the
Conference had joined the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) in condemning Passion
after a stolen copy of an early draft of the script for Passion had been
reviewed by a committee of five Jewish and four Catholic “scholars” and deemed
“anti-Semitic.” When Gibson threatened to sue both the ADL and the USCCB over
the matter, the USCCB apologized to him. “We regret the situation has occurred,”
said USCCB General Counsel Mark Chopko, “and offer our apologies. I have further
advised the scholars group that this draft screenplay is not considered to be
representative of the film and should not be the subject of further public
comment. When the film is released, the [bishops’ conference] will review it.”

MEET THE SCHOLARS

Most of the complaints about supposed “anti-Semitism” in Passion are based upon
the findings of a group of scholars calling themselves the “Ad Hoc Scholars
Group.” These are the nine individuals mentioned above who gained access to a
stolen script for Passion. Four of these people are Catholic. A brief look at
these Catholics will suffice to tell us why the ADL should put so much stock in
their “scholarship”:

1) Dr. Mary C. Boys, SNJM Skinner & McAlpin Professor of Practical Theology,
Union Theological Seminary, New York.

Dr. Boys, one of the Catholics in the Group, is a signer of the 2002 document,
“A Sacred Obligation: Rethinking Christian Faith in Relation to Judaism and the
Jewish People” (a statement by the Christian Scholars Group on Christian-Jewish
Relations). This ‘Statement’ begins with the declaration that, “since its
inception in 1969, the Christian Scholars Group has been seeking to develop more
adequate Christian theologies of the church’s relationship to Judaism and the
Jewish people.” A few simple statements from this document reveal the
treacherous agenda of this “Christian Scholars Group”):

- “For centuries Christians claimed that their covenant with God replaced or
superseded the Jewish covenant. We renounce this claim.”

- “Jesus of Nazareth lived and died as a faithful Jew.”

- “With their recent realization that God’s covenant with the Jewish people is
eternal, Christians can now recognize in the Jewish tradition the redemptive
power of God at work. If Jews, who do not share our faith in Christ, are in a
saving covenant with God, then Christians need new ways of understanding the
universal significance of Christ.”

- “Christians should not target Jews for conversion.”

- “We affirm the importance of the land of Israel for the life of the Jewish
people.”

It is ironic that this document is entitled “A Sacred Obligation,” for the
stated intent of this “Christian Scholars Group” is an outright rejection of the
only “sacred obligation” that really matters, the clear mandate of the Incarnate
God Himself to “teach ye all nations: baptizing them in the name of the Father
and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have commanded you (Mt. 28:19-20).” Notice also how His redemptive
death is subordinated to the fact that He “died as a faithful Jew.” Note also
the politicization of a theological matter with the introduction of present-day
Israel into the equation. I have dwelt a bit on this document because other
members of the anti-Gibson “Ad Hoc Committee” also attached their signatures to
it.

It is clear that Dr. Boys does not believe the books of the New Testament to be
inspired texts. In an article entitled Theology’s "Sacred Obligation": A Reply
to Cardinal Dulles (from America, Oct. 14, 2002), Dr. Boys, along with Dr.
Philip A. Cunningham and Dr. John Pawlikowski (who are also members of the
anti-Gibson “Ad Hoc Committee”) makes the following observations:

Thus, we are troubled by Cardinal Dulles’ assertion that the Letter to the
Hebrews offers "the most formal statement of the status of the Sinai Covenant
under Christianity." Without further analysis, he quotes Hebrews: The "first
covenant is ‘obsolete’ and ‘ready to vanish away’ (Heb. 8:13)." Christ
"‘abolishes the first [covenant] in order to establish the second’ (Heb.
10:9)." Cardinal Dulles implies that Catholics believe that God’s covenant with
the people of Israel is obsolete.

In contrast, we argue that official Catholic teaching today has, in the 1993 PBC
[Pontifical Biblical Commission] formulation, "gone its own way" and "set aside"
the opinion of the author of Hebrews about Israel’s covenant. As "Reflections"
notes, Pope John Paul II has on many occasions declared that Jews are "the
people of God of the Old Covenant, never revoked by God," "the present-day
people of the covenant concluded with Moses," and "partners in a covenant of
eternal love which was never revoked."

We cannot but notice with disdain the phrase “the opinion of the author of
Hebrews about Israel’s covenant.” So, the truths preserved in the New Testament
are mere opinions? It appears that three out of the four Catholic scholars who
make-up the “Ad Hoc Commission” which condemned the stolen Passion script
believe that the texts of the New Testament are not inspired by the Holy Ghost,
but are merely human ramblings packed with erroneous opinions.

Sister Boys is quoted in The Jewish Week as saying about Mel Gibson: “As a
member of the Catholic Church, I regard [his] thinking as bizarre and dangerous,
and suggest that Jews judge them similarly. We seem to have at best fringe
Catholics [if not heretical] with...a tragically twisted understanding of the
relationship between Judaism and Christianity. It is compounded by the arrogance
great wealth makes possible in producing a film that will reopen wounds of
history.” And just what is this “bizarre and dangerous” thinking? – it embraces
a love for the pre-conciliar Church, a love for the Latin Mass, a commitment to
authentic doctrine and a belief in the inerrancy of Sacred Scripture. As a
“Catholic,” Sister Boys finds such ideas abhorrent!

2) Dr. Philip A. Cunningham, Executive Director, Adjunct Professor of Theology,
Center for Christian-Jewish Learning at Boston College.

In an online discussion posted by The Institute for Christian & Jewish Studies,
Dr. Cunningham, another Catholic on the anti-Gibson “Ad Hoc Committee,” made
these observations:

To this day Rabbinic Judaism continues that covenantal living, perceiving its
requirements and gifts and dynamics with the aid of the texts of the Talmud and
other rabbinic writings. In this approach, Christianity entered into the
covenantal way-of-being with God because of the life of a specific son of the
Covenant, whom the Church perceives as the Crucified and Raised One living in
its midst. It patterns its grasp of the requirements and gifts and dynamics of
covenantal living on the example of Jesus Christ.

Christianity cannot tell its story without reference to Jews. This is because it
was through one particular Jew that the Church's life with the covenanting God
of Israel came about. On the other hand, I wonder if it is really true, or must
always be true, that Judaism does not need to refer to Christianity to tell its
story. The story of the Christian oppression of Jews until very recently has
affected both communities, and both have defined some of their religious ideas
in response to the other's claims. Can the whole story of the Jewish religious
experience really be told without reference to this admittedly negative
Christian influence? More positively, there is also the question of Judaism's
obligation to be a light to the nations, a duty Christians have as well.

Note that, according to Cunningham, Jesus Christ is “one particular Jew
.... a specific son of the Covenant,” but that the Church only “perceives [Him]
as the Crucified and Raised One living in its midst.” The surety and conviction
are given to Our Lord’s Jewish identity, while His Divinity is merely a
“perception” on the part of Christians. A very, very odd mode of expression for
a Catholic, one would think. Also, Cunningham asks the question, Can the whole
story of the Jewish religious experience really be told without reference to
this admittedly negative Christian influence? Again, an odd question coming from
a professed Catholic. Cunningham speaks of a negative Christian influence. If he
must speak of any “Christian influence” on Judaism at all, should he not rather
point out that the Jewish religious experience will find its fulfillment and
completion only in Catholicism – i.e., in the fact that the prophecies and types
of the Old Testament were and are fulfilled in Jesus Christ, His Blessed Mother
and His Church?

Dr. Cunningham is also a signer, along with Dr. Mary Boys and Dr. John
Pawlikowski, of Theology’s "Sacred Obligation": A Reply to Cardinal Dulles,
cited above, in which the inspired Letter to the Hebrews is referred to as
nothing but erroneous opinion. We should not be surprised, then, to find Dr.
Cunningham’s name listed in an October, 2001 panel discussion at the Newton
Free Library in Massachusetts along with that of David I. Kertzer, author of
“The Popes Against the Jews: The Vatican’s Role in the Rise of Modern
Anti-Semitism.” The Newton Library describes this book as “a groundbreaking
historical study based on documents previously locked in the Vatican’s secret
archives which graphically shows how the Catholic Church helped make the
Holocaust possible.”

In an article from The Jewish Week, Cunningham is quoted a saying: “It is
impossible to do a film based strictly on the Gospels because they disagree with
one another on some essential details. Was Jesus crucified on Passover or on the
day of preparation? Was there a morning hearing before Temple authorities or
not?” Strange, is it not, that two millennia of inspired Catholic theologians
and historians should have failed to note such obstacles to a “strict”
representation of the events chronicled by the Evangelists!

Cunningham also says that, should Gibson’s film fail to correspond to the
recent revisionist Scriptural exegeses coming out of Rome, “I would anticipate a
clear and explicit criticism of it from the Catholic magisterium throughout the
world. It would also certainly demand a strong response from all Christians
committed to Jewish-Christian rapprochement.”

Just what is this “recent revisionist Scriptural exegeses coming out of
Rome?“ It has been codified in the Pontifical Biblical Commission’s (PBC)
document, authorized by Cardinal Ratzinger, entitled The Jewish People and the
Holy Scriptures in the Christian Bible. The main thrust of this scandalous
document was summarized by papal spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls: "The
expectancy of the Messiah was in the Old Testament and if the Old Testament
keeps its value, then it keeps that as a value, too. It says you cannot just say
all the Jews are wrong and we are right. It means it would be wrong for a
Catholic to wait for the (first coming of the) Messiah, but not for a Jew."

3) Dr. John T. Pawlikowski, OSM Prof. of Social Ethics, Catholic-Jewish
Studies Director, Catholic Theological Union, Chicago. A Servite, Fr.
Pawlikowski is also a member of the Bishops' Advisory Committee on
Catholic-Jewish Relations and since 1980 a member by presidential appointment of
the United States Holocaust Memorial Council.

Concerning Passion, Father Pawlikowski is quoted in The Jewish Week as saying
that he is “naturally quite upset at the prospect of this film. ... Those who
might see the film without much or any background in recent biblical
interpretation will be terribly misled.” Naturally upset? Perhaps Father is
unusually prone to anxiety. And just what sort of “recent biblical
interpretation” does he deem necessary in order to properly ‘get’ the story of
the Passion? It should come as no surprise to readers at this point. Let us
first recall that Pawlikowski is a signer, along with Sister Boys and Dr.
Cunningham, of Theology’s "Sacred Obligation": A Reply to Cardinal Dulles.
Therefore, he believes that the New Testament is fraught with human error and
opinion. It seems, then, that Fr. Pawlikowski is afraid that people who accept
the Gospel accounts as inspired and factual will be “terribly misled.”

In a 2002 book review of David I. Kertzer’s “The Popes Against the Jews:
The Vatican’s Role in the Rise of Modern Anti-Semitism,” written for The
National Catholic Reporter, Fr. Pawlikowski makes these revealing observations:

Nor does he [Kertzer] fully understand the theology of the church that is
present within the document [i.e., We Remember: Reflections on the Shoah, a
1998 document presented by the Holy See’s Commission for Religious Relations
With the Jews]. While Cassidy's interpretation of "We Remember" does not fully
answer Kertzer's or my criticisms, it certainly does move us in the direction of
a closer connection between traditional Catholic and modern forms of
anti-Semitism.

The main thrust of The Popes Against the Jews is the argument that the profound
inability of the popes and other Vatican leaders to deal with the challenge of
political and cultural modernity in Europe led to an active campaign, often
employing classic Christian anti-Semitic themes and activities, against the Jews
who were seen as significant proponents of modernism and liberalism, often
referred to as Freemasonry. Here Kertzer is on solid ground in my judgment, even
if one might disagree with this or that particular point.

Catholicism's 100 years war with modernity, led by the popes whose
administrations Kertzer examines in this volume, came to an end only at the
Second Vatican Council....The late Cardinal Joseph Bernardin called for total
honesty in dealing with church history in such matters. Kertzer's volume should
help the church confront its shadow side more profoundly than it has. Only in
this way can it retain moral integrity today.

How many readers are aware that there are traditional Catholic forms of
anti-Semitism? Or classic Christian anti-Semitic themes and activities against
the Jews? Remember, this is a priest writing this drivel. We could hope, of
course, that in a society sinking ever more quickly into the pits of spiritual,
moral and physical self-destruction, a Catholic priest would be impassioned
about the Sacraments, about announcing the glorious news that Jesus Christ rose
from the dead, and offers forgiveness of sins to ALL who ask it with sincerity.
We could hope that a Catholic priest would steer anyone within the sound of his
voice towards Our Lady, that she may present suffering men and women to her Son.
We could even desire that a Catholic priest proclaim the Catholic Church as the
Ark of Salvation, and invite all to nourish themselves under her maternal care.

But, Fr. Pawlikowski seems more intent on helping the Church confront its
shadow

side more profoundly than it has. Shades of Harry Potter! When priests start
using phrases such as traditional Catholic forms of anti-Semitism or classic
Christian anti-Semitic themes and activities against the Jews, things are in a
bad way indeed.

4) Rev. Dr. Lawrence E. Frizzell, Director, Institute of Judaeo-Christian
Studies, Seton Hall University, East Orange, NJ.

An “IRC (Information Resource Center) Alert,” dated January/February 2003,
appears on the U.S. Embassy homepage, a website maintained by the Office of the
Public Affairs in Islamabad. A list of articles on “Environmental Issues” is
presented, including one entitled Inter-Religious Dialogue in Global Perspective
by Lawrence E. Frizzell (Seton Hall School of Diplomacy and International
Relations, Winter/Spring 2002, Vol. 111). The synopsis for this article contains
the following statements:

In past ages, there has been a propensity for each culture or religion to assume
that it embodied the best in every aspect of the human order. There is no longer
excuse for such narrowness spawned of ignorance to dominate the thinking of
educated people....An honest exchange of ideas, wherein each party is willing to
listen, is the model which should replace the tendencies of the strong to impose
their will on others.

Frizzell believes it to be a “narrowness spawned of ignorance” for one religion
to assume that it “embodied the best in every aspect of the human order.” This
is a very interesting thing for a Catholic priest to say in light of Pope Pius
XI’s encyclical Quas Primas (On the Feast of Christ the King), delivered in the
year 1925. Here, Pius XI reminded the world that the Catholic Church was
“founded by Christ as a perfect society.” His impassioned descriptions of a
world governed by Christ cannot fail to spark the truly Catholic imagination:

If the kingdom of Christ, then, receives, as it should, all nations under its
way, there seems no reason why we should despair of seeing that peace which the
King of Peace came to bring on earth .... Oh, what happiness would be Ours if
all men, individuals, families, and nations, would but let themselves be
governed by Christ!

If We ordain that the whole Catholic world shall revere Christ as King, We shall
minister to the need of the present day, and at the same time provide an
excellent remedy for the plague which now infects society. We refer to the
plague of anti-clericalism, its errors and impious activities. This evil spirit,
as you are well aware, Venerable Brethren, has not come into being in one day;
it has long lurked beneath the surface. The empire of Christ over all nations
was rejected. The right which the Church has from Christ himself, to teach
mankind, to make laws, to govern peoples in all that pertains to their eternal
salvation, that right was denied. Then gradually the religion of Christ came to
be likened to false religions and to be placed ignominiously on the same level
with them.

Such authentic Christian sentiments are anathema to the proponents of false
ecumenism, particularly to those who engage in “Jewish-Christian Dialogue,”
where one party “professes” Christ (though with much embarrassment and twisting
of doctrine and history), while the other has absolutely NO use for Him
whatsoever.

Dr. Frizzell makes a perfect “fourth” to the Catholic contingent of the
anti-Gibson “Ad Hoc Scholars Group.” His three associates evince a certain
unmistakable contempt for the mandates of Jesus Christ, the Church He founded
and the Evangelists who have left us the story of His life. They feel that they
must rewrite the Scriptures, lest their friendship with Jewish opponents of the
Church be put in jeopardy. Frizzell is as eager as anyone to question the
integrity of the Evangelists and dismantle the perennial teachings of the Church
in the name of “friendship” with those who deny the Divinity of our Redeemer. In
an unpublished 1977 manuscript , he stated this concerning the “Reproaches
Against the Jews” contained in the traditional Good Friday liturgy:

The Reproaches are not central to the Good Friday liturgy and can be replaced by
other hymns. An alternative would be an introduction which stresses that we
associate our sins and those of our generation with the failures of past
generations both in the Church and in ancient Israel.

What is the new function of the Good Friday liturgy, then? It should
“associate our sins” [?] and “those of our generation” [??] with the failures of
past generations “both in the Church and in ancient Israel.” Apparently,
contemporary Israel and modern-day Judaism are impeccable! No sins there to be
sorry about.

These four “Catholic” scholars -- Boys, Cunningham, Pawlikowski and
Frizzell -- presented their opinions on the stolen script of Passion (denying,
of course, any knowledge that they were dealing with an unauthorized manuscript)
in a document entitled Dramatizing the Death of Jesus: Issues that Have Surfaced
in Media Reports about the Upcoming Film, The Passion. They therein pronounce:

Other media reports have implied that our assessment was based on personal
exegetical theories or idiosyncratic views of biblical interpretation or
history. This characterization is totally false. Our evaluation was founded upon
magisterial teaching documents of the Catholic Church, which were extensively
quoted in a four page appendix in our eighteen-page confidential evaluation.
Suggestions that our criteria for evaluating the screenplay were not
authoritative Catholic teaching compromise the magisterium's absolute rejection
of the long-lived "Christ-killers" libel against Jews, a rejection enshrined in
the Second Vatican Council declaration Nostra Aetate and subsequent Vatican and
episcopal conference documents.

For scholars who seem eager to trumpet their doctrinal theories, these four
seem convinced that the Catholic “magisterium” only became fully functional and
self-aware with “Nostra Aetate and subsequent Vatican and episcopal conference
documents.” As can only be expected, they also take the opportunity in their
document to bash the mystic, Ven. Catherine Anne Emmerich, from whose writings,
along with those of Ven. Maria of Agreda, Gibson drew inspiration (one can only
wonder with what hysteria the anti-Gibson scholars welcomed the news, reported
by Zenit on July 29, 2003, that “the Church's recent recognition of a miracle
has opened the doors to beatification for Anna Katharina Emmerick, a stigmatist
and mystic whose written experience of Christ's life affects Christians
today”!). But, of course, the target of choice for our “Catholic” scholars
remains the Gospels themselves:

One cannot assume that by simply conforming to the New Testament that
antisemitism will not be promoted. After all, for centuries sermons and passion
plays based on the New Testament have incited Christian animosity and violence
toward Jews. This history prompted Pope John Paul II to pray publicly for God's
forgiveness for such Christian wrongdoing.

How today’s “theologians” love to grovel! Considering that this document is
entitled Dramatizing the Death of Jesus, there is nothing in it which gives any
iota of an appreciation of this salvific death. There is no sense of the awesome
wonder of God becoming Man and suffering His Passion out of Divine love for
suffering humanity. There is no sense of gratitude for this Supreme Sacrifice.
There is no passion (no pun intended) in their words when they speak of
Suffering of our Redeemer. After a series of unimportant questions based on
Gospel events and their possible depiction on film are set forth, the document
closes thusly, with yet another reminder of how stupid and brutish were all
those poor Catholics who had the misfortune to live before the New Springtime of
the Second Vatican Council:

These and other such questions must be asked to assess whether any dramatic
presentation of the death of Jesus conforms to official Catholic teaching. They
are all based upon numerous official documents, most specifically, the U.S.
Bishops' Committee on Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs, Criteria for the
Evaluation of Dramatizations of the Passion (1988). These documents are not
private or personal exegetical theories, but official teaching of the Roman
Catholic Church. In this era, when ancient Christian antisemitic motifs are
being recirculated widely because of international conflicts, any Christian
producer of a dramatic presentation of the death of Jesus has a considerable
moral responsibility.

Yes, our “scholars” are very concerned about “official” Church teaching, if
only those of a recent, non-infallible vintage, yet they are curiously
unconcerned about the Person of Jesus Christ, His teachings, commands and
redemptive death on Calvary. As for the Church whose “official” teachings they
claim to adhere to? It appears that the only sentiment they, as well as their
Jewish colleagues, can muster for her is a type of barely-restrained contempt
for the breeding ground of such “ancient Christian antisemitic motifs.”

PILATE & HEROD TOGETHER AGAIN

The May 30, 2003 edition of Zenit News states the anti-Gibson “Ad Hoc
Committee” was assembled by Dr. Eugene Fisher, Associate Director of the
Secretariat for Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs of the National Conference
of Catholic Bishops, and

Rabbi Eugene Korn, National Director of Interfaith Affairs at the
Anti-Defamation League and Adjunct Professor of Jewish Thought at Seton Hall
University. What great insight into the truths of Sacred Scripture marks these
two men? Here is the “Catholic” Eugene Fisher on the relationship between
Judaism and Catholicism:

If you put off the moment that Jews will come to recognize Jesus as the Messiah
until the end of time, then we don’t need to work or pray for the conversion of
Jews to Christianity. God already has the salvation of Jews figured out, and
they accepted it on Sinai, so they are OK.

Jews are already with the Father. We do not have a mission to the Jews, but only
a mission with the Jews to the world. The Catholic Church will never again
sanction an organization devoted to the conversion of the Jews. That is over, on
doctrinal, biblical and pastoral grounds. Finito.

And what of Rabbi Eugene Korn? In a presentation entitled One God, Many Faiths:
A Jewish Theology of Covenantal Pluralism (Center for Christian-Jewish Learning,
Boston College, March 13, 2003), the ADL’s Korn had the effrontery to compare
the Catholic Church to paganism, Marxism, Enlightenment rationalism and Islam:

Thus, "extra ecclesium nulla salus." (There is no salvation outside the Church.)
The Church transformed the particular covenant into a universal mission, and
entrance into the church became a prerequisite for acceptance, validity, dignity
and salvation. The Catholic Church was not the only body that strove to
universalize. Plato’s ghost also haunted Enlightenment rationalists, Marxists
and dominates today’s traditional Islamic believers. All strove or strive to
bring the world into their ideological or theological orbit and assert their
universal Truth.

It is very, very interesting to find two men, one a “Catholic,” the other a
Jew, both condemning the very words of Jesus Christ: “I am the way, and the
truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by Me (Jn. 14:6) ....
Going therefore, teach ye all nations: baptizing them in the name of the Father
and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost (Mt. 28:19).” In some ways, is this not a
modern recapitulation of another “friendship,” one that is mentioned in the
Gospels, one that also was founded upon a denial of the claims of Christ?

And the chief priests and the scribes stood by, earnestly accusing Him. And
Herod with his army set Him at naught and mocked Him, putting on Him a white
garment: and sent Him back to Pilate. And Herod and Pilate were made friends,
that same day: for before they were enemies one to another. (Lk. 23:10-12)

Is it any wonder that these two “experts” are responsible for selecting the five
Jewish and four “Catholic” members of the anti-Gibson “Ad Hoc Committee” – or
should we say “anti-Church” committee?

Space does not permit a look at the five Jewish members of the anti-Gibson “Ad
Hoc Committee,” but they are likewise deeply involved in that false
“Christian-Jewish” ecumenism which seeks to undermine the Truth of Jesus Christ
as Savior, while growing fat on an unending campaign to disgrace the doctrinal
patrimony of Roman Catholicism. Suffice it to say that one of these Jewish
scholars, Dr. Amy-Jill Levine, author of the Feminist Companions to the New
Testament and Early Christian Literature, describes herself as a "Yankee Jewish
feminist who teaches in a predominantly Protestant seminary in the buckle of the
Bible Belt." The Vanderbilt University Divinity School website states the Levine
“conjoins historical-critical rigor, literary-critical sensitivity, and a
frequent dash of humor with a commitment to exposing and expunging anti-Jewish,
sexist, and heterosexist theologies.”

In a 2001 article in Moment, a magazine described as “a conversation on Jewish
culture, politics and religion,” we read that Dr. Levine conducts a rather
melodramatic ritual for her students:

Meanwhile in Nashville, Tenn., Levine, afflicted with the resoluteness of a
Jewish mother as well as that of a scholar, once a year stands her young son, in
kippah [yarmulke] and tzitzit [the fringes or tassels worn on traditional or
ceremonial garments by Jewish males], at the front of the classroom before her
seminary students. “Don’t ever say anything that would hurt this child,” she
tells the future pastors, “and don’t ever say anything that would cause a member
of your congregation to hurt this child.”

If a Christian scholar stood before a classroom full of rabbinical students
holding a Crucifix and saying, “our sins caused the suffering of the Living
God,” it would probably be splashed on the front-pages as an “intolerance
attack” equal in fury to the one inflicted at Pearl Harbor. Just what should
Levine’s students avoid saying that can “hurt this child?” Should they refuse to
quote from the Gospels? Deny the divinity of Jesus Christ? Forget about the
Supreme Sacrifice of Calvary? All of the above?

Another one of the “Ad Hoc Committee” Jewish scholars is Dr. Paula Fredriksen,
whose book Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews: A Jewish Life and the Emergence
of Christianity is predicated on the assumption that the Gospels are unreliable
source material for the life of Jesus and that the early disciples merely
imagined that they saw the Resurrected Christ in their midst. “We already knew,”
writes Fredriksen in The New Republic, “that Gibson's efforts to be ‘as truthful
as possible’ (his own words in the Times) would be frustrated by the best
sources that he had to draw on, namely, the Gospels themselves.”

In addition, Dr. Fredriksen definitely wins the “Paranoia Award” for this
statement concerning Passion: “When violence breaks out, Mel Gibson will have a
much higher authority than professors and bishops to answer to." In one fell
swoop, Fredriksen paints Christians as violent brutes and predicts anti-Jewish
riots because of Passion, while moving Gibson’s “hate-crime trial” from the
musings of the terrestrial media to the Celestial Court itself! But could we
hope to expect more from a “scholar” who has dedicated so much of her life to
the “study” of Jesus Christ, yet whose heart has never been moved to believe in
Him?

“THE TRUTH WILL OUT!”

As stated above, the USCCB (threatened with a lawsuit) did apologize to Mel
Gibson for the “situation” – i.e., for the unwarranted condemnation of his film,
a condemnation begun even before the project finished shooting! The “Ad Hoc
Scholars Committee” declared that it was their understanding “from the outset of
our review of the script that our report did not represent an official statement
of the United States Catholic Conference of Bishops, nor was it ever represented
as such.”

Not surprisingly, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) remains unrepentant. The July
22, 2003 edition of New York Newsday noted that “The Catholic Conference backed
down. But the ADL denied any illegality and has stood by its criticisms.” Rabbi
Marvin Hier, dean and founder of the Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal Center,
and one of the first to jump on the Gibson-bashing bandwagon, said of the story
of the Passion: "This is a story for which millions of people throughout
history paid with their lives. They were burned at the stake, killed in pogroms
and the Inquisition, and it was also these ideas that served as the foundation
of the Holocaust." Heir also suggests that Gibson could have helped his own
cause had he only issued a public statement to the effect of: “You know, in
view of comments that have been made [by his father, Hutton Gibson], I believe
the Holocaust was one of the greatest tragedies visited upon humankind.” One can
almost hear the echo of an ancient voice saying: “Burn incense to Caesar and
the gods, Christian, and all will well!”

As noted above, there is one obvious and crucial element missing in all the
analyses and observations made by the “Ad Hoc Scholars.” This is, quite simply,
any sense of awe and mystery in the face of God becoming Man and dying for a
sinful humanity, as well as any sense of affection, of gratitude, of humility
before this Supreme act of Divine Love. Instead, all the minutiae and detail of
the Passion narrative have become “problems.” And thus, the Gospels must be
twisted, doubted and all but ignored, lest anyone become upset with the simple
Truth. The greatest event that Creation has ever witnessed, or will ever
witness, the Sacrifice of God Incarnate for his undeserving creatures, is not
spoken of as though it were a real, and critical, event – nothing less than the
turning-point of all history – but as a literary scenario to be interpreted and
staged, not unlike “The Merchant of Venice.” True, one could not expect more
from the Jewish members of the “Ad Hoc Scholars Group.” To them, Christ is a
curiosity at best, and an enemy at worst. But it is regrettable to see where the
sympathies of the “Catholic” scholars truly lie.

It is obvious that the attacks on Passion are insincere ones. All the critiques
of the film made thus far cannot be critiques of this particular film – for the
critics have yet to SEE the film! No, all the assaults hurled at Mel Gibson and
Passion are not-too-thinly disguised assaults on the Gospels, the Saints who
wrote them, and the Church which venerates them. The enemies of Truth are
vigilant, and they are not given to squandering opportunities. The announcement
of a film about the Passion of Christ was too good an opportunity for these
people to pass up. Hence, the continual, malevolent attacks of the past year.
Paul Lauer, Mel Gibson's publicist, has let us know that Gibson and his people
are not unaware of the true nature of the attacks on his film. "Are some people
going to make the argument for anti-Semitism,” asks Lauer. "Maybe. But to do
that, they would have to call the New Testament Gospels anti-Semitic, which as
you know, some people do.”

In addition, the attacks against Mel Gibson and Passion are attacks against
Traditional Catholicism, against the pre-conciliar “Church Militant.” So many of
the critiques of Passion, with their incessant references to the Second Vatican
Council and the alleged “hate crimes” of the Church of our forefathers, read
like desperate propaganda, like tracts whose ultimate aim is to prevent or, at
least, discourage, any possible resurgence of a true Catholic sensibility among
those still calling themselves “Catholic” today. In every article which
mentions Gibson’s Traditional Catholicism, the facts are deliberately distorted
to paint Traditionalists as an unstable, perhaps dangerous, “lunatic fringe.”
This is no coincidence.

These “reviews” of a yet-to-be-released film are nothing more than a series of
self-serving attempts to browbeat Gibson and any Catholics who may agree with
him into compromising his Catholic convictions. In fact, in an article published
by Dr. Paula Fredriksen in The New Republic, the “Ad Hoc Scholar” readily admits
that it is the Catholicism of Gibson’s project that irks her so :

That script [i.e. the stolen draft]—and, on the evidence, the film—presents
neither a true rendition of the Gospel stories nor a historically accurate
account of what could have happened in Jerusalem, on Passover, when Pilate was
prefect and Caiaphas was high priest. Instead Gibson will apparently release
what Christopher Noxon, in his article for the Times, had correctly described
already in March: "a big-budget dramatization of key points of traditionalist
theology." The true historical framing of Gibson's script is neither early first
century Judea (where Jesus of Nazareth died) nor the late first-century
Mediterranean diaspora (where the evangelists composed their Gospels). It is
post-medieval Roman Catholic Europe. Fulco [i.e., Fr. William Fulco SJ, a
professor at Loyola Marymount University and Gibson's advisor for the film]
could have spared himself a lot of trouble and just put the entire script into
Latin. Not pagan Roman Latin, but Christian Roman Latin. For that is the true
language of Gibson's story.

The truth will out! The implication here is that a Traditionalist Catholic is
incapable of telling an accurate account of the life and death of Jesus Christ
because such a person will base that account on a belief in the inerrancy of the
Gospels and on Catholic Scriptural exegesis -- i.e., on his own Catholicity!
Such outright contempt for the Church and her patrimony of scriptural and
doctrinal teachings does not seem to faze Fredriksen’s “Catholic” counterparts
in the least.

Incidentally, just how far does Dr. Fredriksen’s contempt for the Catholic
dimension of Passion go? She wrote:

Finally, details of the film as reviewed by the insider-fan on June 26 conform
exactly, alas, to what we had seen in the script. Satan inciting the
executioners at their task; "a vicious riot of frenzied hatred between Romans
and Jews with the Savior (en route to Golgotha) on the ground in the middle of
it getting it from both sides"; the post-crucifixion Mary-and-Jesus pieta--no
such scenes exist in the Gospels. But they are all in the screenplay that we
saw.

One of the details which – alas! as the scholar laments – troubles
Fredriksen is the “post-crucifixion Mary-and-Jesus pieta.” Even the depiction of
the Sorrowful Mother and the dead Savior are too “Christian Roman,” too
Catholic, for this expert of the “Ad Hoc Scholars Committee!” One would hope
that a scholar of Christian themes would appreciate the difference between
Catholic “tradition” and the errors of “sola scriptura.” But, no – I mean, alas!
– even Our Blessed Mother must be the subject of this individual’s rancor.

I will close with an important, but very politically-incorrect point. We hear
much about the heinous crime of “Holocaust-denial.” Such a phrase is even
applied to those who, although not denying the event, still maintain that, as a
historical subject, it is open to continual critical study. Without making any
judgments on the matter, it must be remarked that this mindset, in effect,
carries a historical event into the realm of “dogma,” where the
“Holocaust-denier” is the modern-day, secular equivalent of the doctrinal
heretic. In fact, the ADL website features a section entitled Holocaust Denial:
An Online Guide to Exposing and Combating Anti-Semitic Propaganda. Here, we read
the following:

The denier strategy is simple and familiar. They distort, even fabricate,
history and then broadcast their creations. They have learned from Hitler that
"a lie is believed because of the insolent inflexibility with which it is
propagated." Smith and his cohorts are engaged in what historian Deborah
Lipstadt has termed an "assault on truth and memory."

So, apparently there is a “denier strategy.” It is an assault on truth and
memory by those who would presume to distort, even fabricate, history and then
broadcast their creations. Is this not what both Catholic and Jewish “scholars”
are doing through their false teachings that the Gospels are not the inspired
Word of God? They demand that faithful Catholics reject the accounts of the life
and death of Jesus Christ preserved in the Gospels, in favor of new and
agenda-riddled interpretations of such. It is forbidden to question the
historical particulars of the “Holocaust.” Yet it is perfectly acceptable to
question the very basis of our faith in Jesus Christ and His Church? What is
wrong with this picture?

In his book, The Kingship of Christ According to the Principles of St. Thomas
Aquinas (1931), Rev. Denis Fahey (a man much maligned by the “ecumaniacs”) made
this critical observation on the very nature of human history:

We Catholics know that Our Lord Crucified and Risen from the dead is the center
of the world, center and culmination-point, too, for in Him and through Him,
humanity is linked with God. The hillock of Calvary is really and truly (if the
metaphor may be allowed) the watershed of the world’s history. The human race
moves on down to Calvary and from Calvary onwards, dividing at the foot of the
Cross, according as men accept or reject the Divinity of Him Who died there on
the first Good Friday.

If there can be “Holocaust-deniers”, then why can there not be also
“Christ-deniers?” So, let us ask the Jewish scholars of the “Ad Hoc Committee”:
If you were planning to produce a film about the “Holocaust,” would you allow an
avowed “Holocaust-denier” to have any input into the script? Would you seek his
advice and consult with him? No doubt, the reply would be a resounding “No!” And
yet you demand that a Catholic artist submit his labor of love, his personal
homage to the Savior and Redeemer of the World, to the consultations and
critiques of those who would deny the Divinity and Resurrection of Jesus Christ?
The word for this is hypocrisy.

As for the Catholic scholars: If your doubts concerning the authenticity of the
Gospel accounts are so strong, then how can you be sure any depiction of the
Passion, even one approved by you, is correct?” Why are you so embarrassed by
Jesus Christ and the simple truth of His unique mediation between God the Father
and His creatures? Is it any wonder that these Catholic and Jewish scholars get
along so well, and that groups like the ADL are suddenly so quick to refer to
Catholic experts on the subject, when the strong suit of such “Catholic”
scholars appears to be a deep-seated need for self-flagellation and a real sense
of self-loathing for their Catholic identity and history? Is not the single,
greatest act of charity and friendship we can show towards our Jewish neighbors
simply to share with them the gift of Truth – the glorious Truth of the
Redemption won for us by Jesus Christ Crucified and Risen? Is this, or is it
not, the greatest news in all creation?

No doubt, as Passion nears its premier, we will continue to hear of the pressing
concerns of such Catholic and Jewish academics. Their credentials, of course,
will be shouted from the housetops, in the hopes of stifling the objections of
us plain folk. Hopefully, this article will give Remnant readers an idea of who
these scholars really are, their unwholesome agenda (namely, an assault upon the
inspired writings of the Evangelists and upon the doctrinal integrity of the
pre-conciliar Church) .... and what they truly represent. May Our Lord and His
Blessed Mother move their hearts, and all hearts, to welcome and adore the Truth
that is Jesus Christ, and may Mel Gibson’s Passion become, in the end, a worthy
instrument for this noble end.

End article

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Also see:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/6a0c892eecb850b6?fwc=1
Subject: 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage in Holocaust Denial in Addition to
Their anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism V6.0 T_0928
Message-ID: <faskj15cfr2cca9hn...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Sep 2005 10:33:37 GMT
If Jews are allowed to call a historic event a "Holocaust" based on Jews being
tortured, imprisoned, and executed by Nazis then why can't Christians claim Jews
had "Holocausts" against non-Jews/Christians seeing how the 1st Century
Pharisees and the 20th Century Jewish led Bolshevists tortured, imprisoned, and
executed Christians/non-Jews. Jews also deny these other "Holocausts" so going
by their standards they are "Holocaust Deniers" and should be prosecuted for
"Holocaust Denial" and "Minimalizing the Holocaust[s])" as well! Shouldn't Jews
also be prosecuted for their anti-Christism and their anti-Christic bigotry
coupled with their virulent and hateful Christ Denial?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/ed596bea483952b6
Subject: Post-Soviet Religion (What Communists did to Christians) V3-0 T_0625
Message-ID: <4plub1hmr6bnr2mpl...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Jun 2005 02:00:38 GMT
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/b36e60e163532662?fwc=1
Subject: V4.0 Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism V4.0
Message-ID: <8ps6n1dcvs97lq3kn...@4ax.com>
Date: 10 Nov 2005 16:17:16 GMT
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Shouldn't Jews be prosecuted for such hateful teachings as this archive
catalogs? Aren't Jewish teachings bigoted and hateful?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/8ecf00a3d0a1a81e
Subject: Jesus Christ & Deceased Christians- Their Condition According to TALMUD
(Boiling Semen & Excrement) V2.0 UPDATED T_0730
Message-ID: <bb5oe1pdags5iq3tf...@4ax.com>
Date: 31 Jul 2005 00:23:02 GMT
------------------------------
The world does not need double standards and because the world does have double
standards that is why the legal and judicial systems on a world wide scale are
collapsing and why the institutions lack respect they had in former days.

Tavish

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/acf248f27b96a6a7
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Ken McVay (As Well as Nizkor Supporters)
Engaging in Christ Denial and Anti-Christism? aka Re: The Jews who did not deny
the Messiah V3-0 T_0803
Message-ID: <99v2f1dno3u6d48mu...@4ax.com>
Date: 4 Aug 2005 02:56:37 GMT
-->Why is it most of the people who call people "Holocaust Deniers" and "Nazi
Apologists" are Blasphemous Christ Deniers and Communist Apologists? Has anyone
else noticed this important coincidence?

~~Proof Sara Salzman is an anti-Christ Daughter of the Father of Lies~~
In article <1123293232.91cadcbf933fc5a1c9150e6b2ff9b055@teranews>,
fenim...@hotmail.com (James Fenimoore) wrote:
>
> May I ask if you acknowledege Jesus is the Christ or Messiah who
> came in the flesh?
>
> You haven't answered Tavish's question.

I sure have. I've answered it three times already. And since I happen to
be Jewish, why would you think I would believe any such thing?

Sara
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From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Yale F. Edeiken Making False Claims About My Medical Records
aka Re: Steve Wolk's Cowardice... V2.0 T_0804
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:55:49 -0500
Message-ID: <catamont-CFBE3C...@news.giganews.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/fff52eca83b894a3
(Archived locally as: SaraSalzmanDeniesJesusIsMessiah_1)
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The Pharisees were also Jewish and they were the first anti-Christs documented
in the Bible. Many Jews of today also claim today's Judaism has been passed
down from the Pharisees whom Jesus boldly told were the Children of the Father
of Lies. John 8: 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry
out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to
the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native
language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 48 The Jews answered him,
"Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?"

ANTI-CHRISTS IDENTIFIED:
1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard
that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists."
1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is
the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those who are trying to
mislead you!"
2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not
confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never
receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a
greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."
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http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.palestine/msg/5f236d361634c200
Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
(Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
Message-ID: <1ioifv01joma9fjqp...@4ax.com>
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We finally got Sara Salzman to admit she denies Jesus is the Christ or Messiah
who came in the flesh on August 5, 2005.

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The Chief Instigator

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Mar 16, 2006, 12:10:11 AM3/16/06

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R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:

>From: debu...@aol.com (Debunks1)
>Date: 10 Aug 2003 18:08:23 GMT

>This is by far one of the best articles I have read on the subject. Enjoy.
>
>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/remnant/passion.htm
>(Link active August 13, 2003. Archived locally as: gibson_passion)

This is 2006, Bellville's Scott Bradbury (Texas' leading revisionist
"scholar"). Live in this age, for once in your life.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 6, Chicago 5 (March 15)
NEXT GAME: Friday, March 17 at Milwaukee, 7:05

Herr Doktor Tavische

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Mar 16, 2006, 12:54:56 AM3/16/06

to

On 15 Mar 2006 23:10:11 -0600, <szkwtev...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:
>
>>From: debu...@aol.com (Debunks1)
>>Date: 10 Aug 2003 18:08:23 GMT
>
>>This is by far one of the best articles I have read on the subject. Enjoy.
>>
>>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/remnant/passion.htm
>>(Link active August 13, 2003. Archived locally as: gibson_passion)
>

>This is 2006, Xxxxxx Scott Bradbury (Xxxxx' leading revisionist

What another poster named James Roberts advised about Patrick's boorish behavior
of posting where people live --> http://tinyurl.com/dsns7

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/d6eba507c04a1912?dmode=source
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From: James Roberts <jim...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Patrick Lee Humphrey is Amused by Tavish
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 19:15:23 -0500
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e08ca27ae483468
<szkisc7...@fnord.io.com>
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/d4f04d1460e17efc
<szk1xiu...@fnord.io.com>
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On 31 Jul 2004 22:16:25 -0500, <szk8yczy2...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Lee
Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>Tavish <Doc_T...@Tavish-Central01.net> writes:
>
>>On 29 Jul 2004 23:09:52 -0500, <szk1xiu...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Lee
>>Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>Tavish <Doc_T...@Tavish-Central01.net> writes:
>
>>>>Headers to the post FORGED in my identity above.
>
>>>So you say -- what's YOUR word worth, these days?
>
>>Worth a lot more than yours you stupid big mouthed stalking bastard!
>
>Translation: you have nothing in response except to foam at the mouth, as
>usual. (Free clue: I'm still not a stalker, no matter how much you whine
>that I am. I'm stating the simple fact of the town you live in -- no more, no
>less. You have a lot less to worry about from me than you do from your
>neighbors, who have doubtless been annoyed by your fits more than once -- and
>you have far less to worry about from them than you do from the greatest
>threat to you...yourself. How many times have you broken a window lately?)
>
>>>>On 28 Jul 2004 20:43:40 -0500, <szkisc7...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Lee
>>>>Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>>The FORGERY referenced above.
>
>>>>>Tavish <Doc_T...@Tavish-Central01.net> writes:
>
>>>>>>On 28 Jul 2004 22:16:47 -0000, <9GYV2A2E3819...@anonymous.poster>
>>>>>>Scott Bradbury <Doc_T...@Tavish-Central01.net> wrote:
>
>>>>FORGED
>
>>>Repeating it doesn't make it any truer, Owned Bitch of
(You like posting where Bradbury lives so now I post where your father lives
with the advice people contact him to ask him why he raised you to be a
jerk. Anyone contacting Raymond please be nice and mind your manners. Don't
act like Patrick. Raymond A Humphrey, 279 Hemlock St Benham, KY 40807
Phone: 606-848-1200 or 606-848-1316).
>
>(Your insertion of text repaired.)
>
>>You are the "owned bitch" Patrick Lee Humphrey. I post on my own schedule BUT
>>you are compelled by your obsessive compulsive disorder with me to stalk me
>>and to personally attack me with almost each and every post I make-- so it is
>>YOU who is the "owned bitch!"
>
>Keep telling yourself that, OCD Boy of
(You like posting where Bradbury lives so now I post where your father lives
with the advice people contact him to ask him why he raised you to be a
jerk. Anyone contacting Raymond please be nice and mind your manners. Don't
act like Patrick. Raymond A Humphrey, 279 Hemlock St Benham, KY 40807
Phone: 606-848-1200 or 606-848-1316).
>It has about as much to do with reality as anything else you scream.
>
>>I post such gems as:
>
>(about 150 lines of certified Bradshit deleted)
>
>>All Patrick Lee Humphrey can do is to spend his free time monitoring me and
>>stalking me and making personal attack replies to my documented facts posts!
>
>So you say...I guess I'm just imagining spending about one-twelfth of this
>month pedaling. (None of it has been in
(You like posting where Bradbury lives so now I post where your father lives
with the advice people contact him to ask him why he raised you to be a
jerk. Anyone contacting Raymond please be nice and mind your manners. Don't
act like Patrick. Raymond A Humphrey, 279 Hemlock St Benham, KY 40807
Phone: 606-848-1200 or 606-848-1316) County.)
>
>>Here's looking at you stupid slave Patrick Lee Humphrey-- you owned bitch!
>
>Here's laughing at the Fat Fraud of
(You like posting where Bradbury lives so now I post where your father lives
with the advice people contact him to ask him why he raised you to be a
jerk. Anyone contacting Raymond please be nice and mind your manners. Don't
act like Patrick. Raymond A Humphrey, 279 Hemlock St Benham, KY 40807
Phone: 606-848-1200 or 606-848-1316).
>
>>>>>>FORGERY!!
>
>>>>>So you say, anyway.
>
>>>>It was and you know it. You losers have to invent stuff to smear people
>>>>over.
>
>>>Sorry, but I still have never used an anonymous remailer, and I'll testify to
>>>that under oath.
>
>>Two of your other accomplices testified under oath and their testimony was
>>manufactured or perjured!
>
>...according to you, who has never bothered to take *that* accusation to a
>court of law, for some pretty obvious reasons.
>
>(more of Bradburied's dementia tossed out withe the rest of the rubbish)
>
>>>That should tell you something, but you're too stupid to figure it out.
>
>>Funny how all you can do is hurl insults YET I provide actual proofs of what
>>you and your fellow scum do!
>
>Funny how none of your "proofs" would make it *into* a court of law.
>
>>>>>>Well at least I like women instead of being some cock sucking hook nosed
>>>>>>kike cock sucker like you!!
>
>>>>>It was posted through an anonymous server, so you're just indulging in your
>>>>>usual fantasy, aren't you?
>
>>>>Why would I post such stuff through an anonymizer and then add my name to
>>>>it!?
>
>>>Because you're malignantly stupid, why else? That's hardly a secret these
>>>days.
>
>>Personal attacks are all you have when I expose your team for what it is!
>>Your pal Yale made the same stupid accusation that I would post through an
>>anonymizer YET sign the post with my own name/nym and it is faultlessly
>>documented in the above included above titled: "Sara Salzman Won't Comment on
>>These Forgeries - I Wonder Why!"
>
>You're not talking to a team, Cowardly Nazi of
(You like posting where Bradbury lives so now I post where your father lives
with the advice people contact him to ask him why he raised you to be a
jerk. Anyone contacting Raymond please be nice and mind your manners. Don't
act like Patrick. Raymond A Humphrey, 279 Hemlock St Benham, KY 40807
Phone: 606-848-1200 or 606-848-1316).
>Get that fact through your morbidly obese head before you go on another of your
>psychotic fugues.
>
>>Just a very brief excerpt:
>
>Very brief, indeed, as in deleted completely -- another 300+ lines of it, as
>it's more of your canned ranting.
>
><= 259 days until I pedal through your neighborhood again, Busted Bully of
(You like posting where Bradbury lives so now I post where your father lives
with the advice people contact him to ask him why he raised you to be a
jerk. Anyone contacting Raymond please be nice and mind your manners. Don't
act like Patrick. Raymond A Humphrey, 279 Hemlock St Benham, KY 40807
Phone: 606-848-1200 or 606-848-1316).
<END OF WHAT JAMES ROBERTS ADVISED>

>"scholar"). Live in this age, for once in your life.

What Im posted is as relevant today as it was then. If you think that your
continually posting where I live will stop my posting then you are wrong as ever
you chicken shit bastard.

http://tinyurl.com/agwvr
Message-ID: <146d0240...@usw-ex0102-014.remarq.com>

Tavish

>
>--
> Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
> chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
> LAST GAME: Houston 6, Chicago 5 (March 15)
> NEXT GAME: Friday, March 17 at Milwaukee, 7:05

The Chief Instigator

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Mar 16, 2006, 1:08:47 AM3/16/06

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R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:

>On 15 Mar 2006 23:10:11 -0600, <szkwtev...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>>R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:

>>>From: debu...@aol.com (Debunks1)
>>>Date: 10 Aug 2003 18:08:23 GMT

>>>This is by far one of the best articles I have read on the subject. Enjoy.

>>>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/remnant/passion.htm
>>>(Link active August 13, 2003. Archived locally as: gibson_passion)

Massive Bradspam deletion follows.

>>This is 2006, Bellville's Scott Bradbury (Texas' leading revisionist

>>"scholar"). Live in this age, for once in your life.

>What Im posted is as relevant today as it was then. If you think that your
>continually posting where I live will stop my posting then you are wrong as
>ever you chicken shit bastard.

Posting while drunk is about your speed, Bottle Boy of Bellville. I feel
sorry for anyone that has to knock on your door.

Herr Doktor Tavische

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Mar 16, 2006, 1:56:11 AM3/16/06

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On 16 Mar 2006 00:08:47 -0600, <szk3bhi...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:
>
>>On 15 Mar 2006 23:10:11 -0600, <szkwtev...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:
>
>>>>From: debu...@aol.com (Debunks1)
>>>>Date: 10 Aug 2003 18:08:23 GMT
>
>>>>This is by far one of the best articles I have read on the subject. Enjoy.
>
>>>>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/remnant/passion.htm
>>>>(Link active August 13, 2003. Archived locally as: gibson_passion)
>
>Massive Bradspam deletion follows.
>

>>>This is 2006, Xxxxxx's Scott Bradbury (Xxxxx' leading revisionist

You never learn do you bonehead?

Damned Clams!

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Mar 16, 2006, 3:27:05 AM3/16/06

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Herr Doktor Tavische , meet AUK.

AUK, meet Herr Doktor Tavische.

My oh my, you are aquainted after all! Scott Bradbury, Kook of the
Month, April 2003.

He makes Foamboi Bartlo's froth seem like Michael Jackson blowing
Bubbles in the bath.

However, Herr Doktor likes to quote himself and regularly cite
questionable sources of information from other certified net-kooks as
'fact'.

Pleece to note also the profound ignorance of Herr Docktor below, and
we hope the walls of Jericho are sturdily reinforced since Bradbury
insists on metaphorically banging his head against them.

It seems fitting that the fine display of kookery below may qualify
Herr Doktor for the the Looney Maroon Award.

Since you are bored with Tommy Tosser, you might enjoy this kook again.

If that is not enough, the real-lifing and k00ksuit threats are certain
to entertain you. Like with Wollkook, it is still February 2002 in
Tavische-Land.

Message has been deleted

wbarwell

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Mar 16, 2006, 4:38:23 AM3/16/06

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Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:

Would you all please kindly keep your private
squabbles out of alt.religion.scientology?
We have enough problems already with cult
spammers here without an increase in noise
level from flamewars.

Thank you.

--

So you want to fight the Master!
First you must fight my brother Chang!

Cheerful Charlie

damn....@gmail.com

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Mar 16, 2006, 4:39:57 AM3/16/06

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> On 16 Mar 2006 00:27:05 -0800, "Damned Clams!" <damn....@gmail.com>

> wrote:
>
> >Herr Doktor Tavische , meet AUK.
>

> Say, Damn Clam, is Bill Frank aka Jack Zwick aka hundreds of other
> socks still hanging out in houston.general?

Dunno, sorry. houston.general ain't my turf.

> And you'll be able to tell who they are because they will be chanting in
> Zulu, "Amasende hagu! Unyoko isifebe! Sibeleko sikanyoko! Malebe, malebe,
> malebe, mdidi sihlama!"

Message has been deleted

damn....@gmail.com

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Mar 16, 2006, 4:56:29 AM3/16/06

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> On 16 Mar 2006 01:39:57 -0800, damn....@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> On 16 Mar 2006 00:27:05 -0800, "Damned Clams!" <damn....@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Herr Doktor Tavische , meet AUK.
> >>
> >> Say, Damn Clam, is Bill Frank aka Jack Zwick aka hundreds of other
> >> socks still hanging out in houston.general?
> >
> >Dunno, sorry. houston.general ain't my turf.
>

> Well, then I reckon you're one of those there revisionists, or an
> okie. My money's on revisionist.

Nah, Bradbury charged into ARS on a multiple crosspoast frenzy, which
is where I found him.

Hence why clams are damned, otherwise I *would* take your money.

Jack Zwick

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Mar 16, 2006, 5:12:33 AM3/16/06

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In article <uv1i12djektv7anns...@4ax.com>,
Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
wrote:

> >
> >>>>From: debu...@aol.com (Debunks1)
> >>>>Date: 10 Aug 2003 18:08:23 GMT
> >

Get over it.

Message has been deleted

Quintal

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Mar 16, 2006, 6:47:40 AM3/16/06

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On 16 Mar 2006 01:06:22 GMT, Herr Doktor Tavische
<Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:

>From: debu...@aol.com (Debunks1)
>Date: 10 Aug 2003 18:08:23 GMT
>Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
>Subject: Christ Denial vs Holocaust Denial, Part 1
>Message-ID: <20030810140823...@mb-m06.aol.com>
>
>From: debu...@aol.com (Debunks1)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Date: 10 Aug 2003 18:10:01 GMT
>Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
>Subject: Christ denial vs Holocaust Denial, pt.2
>Message-ID: <20030810141001...@mb-m06.aol.com>
>
>This is by far one of the best articles I have read on the subject. Enjoy.

yup it's a great article, thank you.

>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/remnant/passion.htm
>(Link active August 13, 2003. Archived locally as: gibson_passion)

archive unfound but the article can be found through google, for
example:

http://www.seethepassion.com/article.php?id=27

http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-religion/962318/posts

(...)

The Chief Instigator

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Mar 17, 2006, 1:35:33 PM3/17/06

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Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> writes:

>On 16 Mar 2006 06:56:11 GMT, Herr Doktor Tavische
><Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:

>>Patrick

>Owns you, k0ok. After all these years, I figured you'd have at least
>worked up the nerve to slit your wrists.

>Coward.

He'd have to be able to find them, first.

The Chief Instigator

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Mar 17, 2006, 1:43:12 PM3/17/06

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Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> writes:

>On 16 Mar 2006 00:27:05 -0800, "Damned Clams!" <damn....@gmail.com>
>wrote:

>>Herr Doktor Tavische , meet AUK.

>>AUK, meet Herr Doktor Tavische.

>>My oh my, you are aquainted after all! Scott Bradbury, Kook of the
>>Month, April 2003.

>>He makes Foamboi Bartlo's froth seem like Michael Jackson blowing
>>Bubbles in the bath.

>>However, Herr Doktor likes to quote himself and regularly cite
>>questionable sources of information from other certified net-kooks as
>>'fact'.

>>Pleece to note also the profound ignorance of Herr Docktor below, and
>>we hope the walls of Jericho are sturdily reinforced since Bradbury
>>insists on metaphorically banging his head against them.

>>It seems fitting that the fine display of kookery below may qualify
>>Herr Doktor for the the Looney Maroon Award.

>>Since you are bored with Tommy Tosser, you might enjoy this kook again.

>>If that is not enough, the real-lifing and k00ksuit threats are certain
>>to entertain you. Like with Wollkook, it is still February 2002 in
>>Tavische-Land.

>Jesus Christ...

>Bradbury is still foaming after all these years?

><checks froups line>

>alt.revisionism,houston.general ... yep

>ok.general?

>Mr Patrick Humphrey owes AUK an explanation as to why he's been hiding
>his favorite stalker.

><glares at PLH>

Sorry...Bradbury's delusions of sanity have been getting all the more blatant,
as of late, and he'll have to jack his BI up over 20 by himself. (Of course,
given one of his recent creative edits of a statement I made that made me look
like I was confessing to pedophilia, you *could* ask him why he's breaking the
law by not reporting a crime to the police...)

The Chief Instigator

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Mar 17, 2006, 1:49:23 PM3/17/06

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R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:

>On 16 Mar 2006 00:08:47 -0600, <szk3bhi...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>>R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:

>>>On 15 Mar 2006 23:10:11 -0600, <szkwtev...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>>>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>>>>R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:

>>>>>From: debu...@aol.com (Debunks1)
>>>>>Date: 10 Aug 2003 18:08:23 GMT

>>>>>This is by far one of the best articles I have read on the subject.
>>>>>Enjoy.

>>>>>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/remnant/passion.htm
>>>>>(Link active August 13, 2003. Archived locally as: gibson_passion)

>>Massive Bradspam deletion follows.

>>>>This is 2006, Bellville's Scott Bradbury (Texas' leading revisionist

>You never learn do you bonehead?

Look in the mirror, Two Tons. You're too damned stupid to filter me out of
your newsgroup abuse. I'm having fun yanking your chain and watching you
perform on command.

Brimstone

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Mar 18, 2006, 1:07:17 AM3/18/06

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Your wife is far more obese than Tavish. Since you are the one with a
fetish for fat people, I'll assume your desire for Tavish is sexual in
nature. He is heterosexual.

The Chief Instigator

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Mar 18, 2006, 1:20:06 AM3/18/06

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Brimstone <captbr...@noyaho.com> writes:

He's every bit as heterosexual as you are, cowardly sockpuppet - and he's as
queer as a $3 bill, by the way he obsesses on it. He'll just have to haul his
two-ton tub down to Snowflake in the morning and stock up, before we get too
close to his sanctum sanctorum, eh?

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)

LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 3 (March 17)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, March 18 at San Antonio, 7:05

Sara Salzman

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Mar 18, 2006, 9:08:15 AM3/18/06

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In article <szkek10...@fnord.io.com>,

The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

> Brimstone <captbr...@noyaho.com> writes:
>
> >Your wife is far more obese than Tavish. Since you are the one with a fetish
> >for fat people, I'll assume your desire for Tavish is sexual in nature. He is
> >heterosexual.
>
> He's every bit as heterosexual as you are, cowardly sockpuppet - and he's as
> queer as a $3 bill, by the way he obsesses on it. He'll just have to haul his
> two-ton tub down to Snowflake in the morning and stock up, before we get too
> close to his sanctum sanctorum, eh?

If Bradbury is a "heterosexual," why does he have such an obsession with
homosexuality?

Scott Bradbury's Obsession with Penises:

REPORT ME THEN YOU STUPID PENIS SUCKER!!
Message-ID: s1uc505urd4n6ehu4...@4ax.com

Not only are you a gay boy penis muncher but you are a communist too
which makes you a Commie Pinko Fag!
Message-ID: <c04o9059bcs57auqf...@4ax.com>

Now go do what you do best you little sniveling penis licker. BTW go
wipe that mayonnaise er cum or whatever you have smeared around your
mouth.
Message-ID: <c04o9059bcs57auqf...@4ax.com>

BTW when Susan Cohen made the change from Gary Rumain did "he" have his
penis removed or is "he" just in drag? We all want to know!
Message-ID: <l3f1009m80jo8cp4d...@4ax.com>

I am not a lard ass you peter eater BUT your wife certainly is!
Message-ID: <8039109vlmea87lru...@4ax.com>

If you keep passing your narrow leftist cum guzzling judgment on me then
I will keep letting everyone know what a dick licking communist you are
swishy boy!
Message-ID: <kfap90p9trfop68uo...@4ax.com>

Heed your own advice you cock succker!
Message-ID: <6k5b10tf0nns8lcag...@4ax.com>

Now go suck yourself!
Message-ID: <08t3i015q434njdsc...@4ax.com>

BTW I am a male therefore I am not a queen but to a dick lick like you-
you want me to be your bitch- sorry I am not gay and I don't play that
way!
Message-ID: <tt1910pccf6n0vbjf...@4ax.com>

Don't you start think of me as a sex toy Gord!
Message-ID: <ufo1hv0e5vgruvtaf...@4ax.com>

Isn't "rimshot" a homosexual term for what fags like you like doing to
people and in your case to little boys?
Message-ID: <4vg4109s319fg8fr7...@4ax.com>

Why won't you accept my challenge you dick nibbler?
Message-ID: <1dbn00tsbopc7ch3q...@4ax.com>

Mishima=Jeffrey G. Brown=Pervert who likes little boys' "pee pees"
Message-ID: <0amo00dem7mrhf2ju...@4ax.com>

Which you would like to suck on BUT I am not of your persuasion you
swishy boy and I won't let you!
Message-ID: <l7is00hm1ma8mlsua...@4ax.com>

Remember how that peter eater liked calling other people gutless?
Message-ID: <9f8010d7i29o7v240...@4ax.com>

He has obsessed about my priapism too! I think he wants to meet Mr.
Winky!
Message-ID: <620u10lndt9bbeiff...@4ax.com>

How many more times do you have to be told you slanderous lying father
sucker!?
Message-ID: <15jdgv8c3s4u37uei...@4ax.com>

BTW You're the fag who attends gay pride parades and you are on record
as doing so you cock sucker!
Message-ID: <5n6ofv8ndrplo5umj...@4ax.com>

Evidently you will be there seeing how you're extending an invitation
apparently but we all know how the Nizkor Bunch is a bunch of penis
munchers.
Message-ID: <85g5gv8te4r48r48d...@4ax.com>

Let's see-- the short form for Richard is Dick and a cranium is
generally a head so you are a Dick Head and your manner of reply
reinforces it too!
Message-ID: <99oagvoqoao78teog...@4ax.com>

I bet he may want to suckle my penis now that you bring it up!
Message-ID: <rrlggvcu5cot3dt7u...@4ax.com>

I could not imagine a husky mannish woman such as his wife strapping on
a penis but then again-- that may be her bag.
Message-ID: <rrlggvcu5cot3dt7u...@4ax.com>

And you and Donn must want to nibble on it too seeing how you're so
interested. Sorry-- but I am not into homo sex.
Message-ID: <169jivs0m58qshat5...@4ax.com>

I will send you a five gallon size bucket of Vaseline to make it easier
on you when some big brute wants to make you his bitch!
Message-ID: <flemiv42547jd8bcr...@4ax.com>

Wouldn't that make you a homosexual on top of being a kike hog? After
all you want a male to perform a sex act on you thus making it
homosexual! You really should consider becoming a Mohel. They can suck a
lot a of cock which should please you immensely!
Message-ID: <ctjomvca44gi36n61...@4ax.com>

Patrick Keenan once gain shows his fixation on my penis!
Message-ID: <c11smvomeluc7075f...@4ax.com>

Why do you always have MY penis on your mind? Is this a hint you are
infatuated with my pecker?
Message-ID: <4u0smvklhsl9qs95c...@4ax.com>

Back to wanting to suck on pee pees again heh?
Message-ID: <1evgnvk0mamrg5bvs...@4ax.com>

--
-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!
-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and the bulk of
my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference. BTW my name is not
Fatboy you stupid kike.
--Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above

Herr Doktor Tavische

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On 17 Mar 2006 12:49:23 -0600, <szkpskk6h...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>>>>>This is 2006, Xxxxxx's Scott Bradbury (Xxxxx' leading revisionist

What another poster named James Roberts advised about Patrick's boorish behavior

"Where we're at, and all that
Dale and I can be reached at the following snail mail location: Patrick & Dale
Ann Humphrey 7500 Bellerive #1807 Houston, Texas 77036-3040.
http://www.io.com/~patrick/address.html "

The above listed in a GOOGLE Web Search:
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=10&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&c2coff=1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=7500+Bellerive+%231807&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=off
(Link active June 25, 2005. Archived locally as: PLHaddressGOOGLE)

Herr Doktor Tavische

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Mar 18, 2006, 6:02:54 PM3/18/06

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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:08:15 -0700,
<catamont-FD6010...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

>In article <szkek10...@fnord.io.com>,
> The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>> Brimstone <captbr...@noyaho.com> writes:
>>
>> >Your wife is far more obese than Tavish. Since you are the one with a fetish
>> >for fat people, I'll assume your desire for Tavish is sexual in nature. He is
>> >heterosexual.
>>
>> He's every bit as heterosexual as you are, cowardly sockpuppet - and he's as
>> queer as a $3 bill, by the way he obsesses on it. He'll just have to haul his
>> two-ton tub down to Snowflake in the morning and stock up, before we get too
>> close to his sanctum sanctorum, eh?
>
>If Bradbury is a "heterosexual," why does he have such an obsession with
>homosexuality?

Just pointing out what you and yours do Sara!

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/a2e73e3395f81686
Subject: STATEMENT OF THE FACTS- Morris [Dees] kissed Springman on Springman's
penis (R. 341) Message-ID: <qad3uv4nq0kd7g9s1...@4ax.com>
Date: 18 Dec 2003 14:11:46 GMT (This archive documents actual homosexual
behavior or a warped fascination of homosexual orientation by Ken McVay (The
Nizkor Project), Paul Kneisel (Anti-Fascism.org), and Morris Dees the founder of
Southern Poverty Law Center aka SPLC)

~~Sara Salzman's College Days~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/d29985f5569e0da7?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Sara Salzman's lesbianism during her college days at Sarah Lawrence
College Message-ID: <jeotv11194jni56f5...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 Feb 2006 10:32:51 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/bffb202a4263d699?fwc=1
Subject: Is Sara Salzman a Lesbian or BI? aka Re: Anonymous Coward Tries and
Fails Message-ID: <44huv15jn24d3hqhe...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 Feb 2006 18:21:17 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/78d44f416ddf54?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman=Closet Lesbian in Denial? Very Well Could Be!!..
Message-ID: <ju2vv11jftuf686uq...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 Feb 2006 23:05:36 GMT
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
How to find a Lesbian or Gay Friendly College Picking a college that is gay
friendly, lesbian friendly or queer friendly is easier than you think. ...
Sarah Lawrence College (Bronxville, NY) ...
http://backtoschool.about.com/od/parentsplace/a/College.htm

Sarah Lawrence Col...@Everything2.com Sarah Lawrence College (or SLC) has a
very unique educational system. ... SLC is somewhat notorious for its gay,
lesbian, bi, and trans community, ...
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=932212

2004 Philadelphia International Gay & Lesbian Film Festival It was at the
well-known hotbed of lesbianism, Sarah Lawrence College, ...
http://www.phillyfests.com/piglff/2004/templates/turner.cfm
-----------------------------------------------------------
Birds of a feather flock together.

>Scott Bradbury's Obsession with Penises:

Out of context quotes are all a bull dyke like you has isn't it Sara and anyone
seeing what I posted in full context will see you for the fat stupid lying slob
you are and here is the method:

Attention lurkers to see the rest of the story as Paul Harvey would say just go
to this link: http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search and at the bottom
you will see a field which shows: "Message ID Lookup the message with message
ID _______________________________________________
(Example: moderated-ng-f...@swcp.com)" And in that window you
need only to Copy N Paste the Message IDs Sara provided below to get an insight
to her deceit.

I must have been talking to Jeffery G. Brown because he is on record as
admitting liking "pee pees."

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/2fdce1eea9742be8?fwc=1
Subject: Joel Leibovitz on Jeffrey G. Brown Wanting to "Nibble Little Boys' Pee
Pees" V2.0 U_0128 Message-ID: <1d5nt1ltfh0lcs02q...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Jan 2006 16:11:21 GMT

As for your smear: "Scott Bradbury's Obsession with Penises" and all of your out
of context quotes I offer Yale F. Edeiken who continually had "cock sucking" on
his mind-- care to comment you fat bull dyke ho?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/529ef0d004cb5ba9?rfwc=1
Subject: Re: Doc Tavish's Obsession with the Penis
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 11:43:51 -0500
Message-ID: <8pubj0528pcdblv6d...@4ax.com>

Brief excerpt of the above:

>> It showed that Tavish originated posts containing "cocksucker" 12 times
>> more often than myself, McVay, Edeiken, Ostrov, and McFee put together.

You need to count the times I originated it in fact to the times I quoted
your pal Edeiken. Here is what I found on your pal Edeiken!

LOOK!

Using DejaCom Power Search:
http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml
Keywords: cock sucker
Author: ya...@enter.net

we get:

Results for: "cock sucker"
Messages 1-25 of 50 matches Page 1 of 2 Next >>
Date Subject Forum Author
05/17/2000 Re: Bradbury's Obsessive Com alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
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04/17/2000 Re: MUST READ! for those who alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
04/14/2000 Re:Bradbury lies again alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
04/06/2000 Re: Yale F. Edeiken Has Viol alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
04/05/2000 Re: Edeiken's Pattern of Thr alt.politics.national Yale F.
09/14/2000 Re: Yale's Lies Exposed! alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
04/04/2000 Re: --->Treason! Selling of alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
04/04/2000 Re: More Actionable Libel, L alt.fan.g-gordon-lidd Yale F.
04/03/2000 Re: --->Soviets (Communists) alt.politics.national Yale F.
09/07/2000 Re: Defendant Bradshit Vs Re alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
05/17/2000 Re: WHY ARE WEB-NAZIS SUCH D alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
05/17/2000 Re: fun with scottie alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
05/17/2000 Re: Simple questions for Ms alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
05/17/2000 Re: Simple questions for Ms alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
05/16/2000 Re: Nradbury Goes Off the De alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
05/16/2000 Re: Yale, why did Deborah Ba alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
05/16/2000 Re: Bradbury the Lying Fuck alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
05/16/2000 Re: DIRECTIONS TO TAVISH'S H alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
05/16/2000 Re: Bradbury Caught in a Psy alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
05/16/2000 Re: Attn Law Enforcement Com alt.politics.org.fbi Yale F.
05/15/2000 Re: PLEASE KILL MY SON alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
05/15/2000 Re: PLEASE KILL MY SON alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
05/15/2000 Re: PLEASE KILL MY SON alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
05/15/2000 Re: PLEASE KILL MY SON alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken

Using the same as above BUT key word now: cocksucker
we get:

Results for: "cocksucker"
Messages 1-25 of 35 matches Page 1 of 2 Next >>
Date Subject Forum Author
12/16/1999 Re: Andrew spams again sci.skeptic Yale F. Edeiken
12/02/1999 Re: Lord Haw Haw Lying Cocks soc.culture.polish Yale F.
04/20/2000 Re: LORD HAW HAW: A Lying Co alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
01/01/2000 Re: Yale F. Edeiken and Cock alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
12/02/1999 Re: Lord Haw Haw Lying Cocks soc.culture.polish Yale F.
04/18/2000 LORD HAW HAW: A Lying Cocksu alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
12/11/1999 Re: Andrew A. Skolnick: the sci.skeptic Yale F. Edeiken
11/27/1999 Lo0rd Haw-Haw --= a lying Co sci.skeptic Yale F. Edeiken
04/20/2000 Re: LORD HAW HAW: A Lying Co alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
12/21/1999 Re: Andrew spams again sci.skeptic Yale F. Edeiken
12/19/1999 Re: Andrew spams again sci.skeptic Yale F. Edeiken
12/18/1999 Re: Andrew spams again sci.skeptic Yale F. Edeiken
12/13/1999 Re: Will I Be Lonesome Tonit sci.skeptic Yale F. Edeiken
12/12/1999 Re: Andrew A. Skolnick: the alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
12/12/1999 Re: Andrew 'the world' Skoln sci.skeptic Yale F. Edeiken
12/12/1999 Re: Yale F. Edeiken's Poor A alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
12/12/1999 Re: Will I Be Lonesome Tonit sci.skeptic Yale F. Edeiken
12/12/1999 Re: Andrew A. Skolnick: the alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
12/03/1999 Re: Lord Haw Haw Rehearses H sci.skeptic Yale F. Edeiken
12/02/1999 Re: Lord Haw Haw Rehearses H sci.skeptic Yale F. Edeiken
12/02/1999 Re: Lord Haw Haw Wiggles Agi soc.culture.polish Yale F.
11/28/1999 Re: For Moshe Schorr and Fri alt.revisionism Yale F. Edeiken
11/25/1999 Re: I too challenge liar Cud sci.skeptic Yale F. Edeiken
10/11/1999 Re: Leuchter, gas chambers, alt.revisionism Yale F.Edeiken
10/10/1999 Re: Leuchter, gas chambers, alt.revisionism Yale F.Edeiken

That is 85 matches right there and those counts don't get all the examples
where Yale's sloppy typing lets examples elude count such as:

http://x22.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=554668600&fmt=text
From: Yale F. Edeiken (ya...@enter.net)
Subject: Lo0rd Haw-Haw --= a lying Cocksucker Exposed
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic, alt.revisionism
Date: 1999/11/27

"You are a lying cocksycker, Lord Haw-Haw."

Now we have eighty six from ya...@enter.net.

>> This confirms the psychological analysis posted earlier by McVay and
>> myself.

Each time I replied to Ken McVay's psychobabble I quoted the above about
Yale Edeiken so each post I made in reply to McVay would result in a count
for me allegedly saying cock sucker when in fact I was quoting your pal
Edeiken!

>> "Ken McVay" kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org
>> 0 "cock sucker"
>> 2 "cocksucker"
>> 0 original
>>
>> "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
>> 50 "cock sucker"
>> 35 "cocksucker"
>> 6 original

I count eighty six original and those don't take into account all the bad
typo versions uncounted!

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

Need I say more other than the anti-Christs are certainly desperate these days!

Tavish

~~Yale F. Edeiken's Obsession With Cock Sucking Documented~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/a9b67dd10fa5ff6f?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Bradbury's Obsession With Homosexual Fellatio
Message-ID: <tf5l6t82vcpsf9guu...@4ax.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 07:54:16 GMT
-----------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/d91b4675a3a2586f?fwc=1
Subject: Homosexual Sympathizer's (TallPaul Kneisel) Weak Attempt at Smear aka
Re: Bradbury's Obsession With Homosexual Fellatio
Message-ID: <m6hk6tsd7gj8fscra...@4ax.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 02:20:07 GMT

Message has been deleted

Herr Doktor Tavische

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On 18 Mar 2006 00:20:06 -0600, <szkek10...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>Brimstone <captbr...@noyaho.com> writes:
>
>>Your wife is far more obese than Tavish. Since you are the one with a fetish
>>for fat people, I'll assume your desire for Tavish is sexual in nature. He is
>>heterosexual.
>
>He's every bit as heterosexual as you are, cowardly sockpuppet - and he's as
>queer as a $3 bill, by the way he obsesses on it.

I only point out how you and your fellows' support gays and/or are gay as in:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/1a20fad3639c0528?fwc=1
Subject: Houstonian Patrick L. Humphrey Defends His Homosexualist Ally and
Attends Gay Pride Parades (His Gay Cruising Fully Documented)
Message-ID: <mmqfev0mn3u3r8gtr...@4ax.com>
Date: 12 Jun 2003 03:16:05 GMT

More info on your fellow "sword swallowers":

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/a2e73e3395f81686
Subject: STATEMENT OF THE FACTS- Morris [Dees] kissed Springman on Springman's
penis (R. 341) Message-ID: <qad3uv4nq0kd7g9s1...@4ax.com>
Date: 18 Dec 2003 14:11:46 GMT (This archive documents actual homosexual
behavior or a warped fascination of homosexual orientation by Ken McVay (The
Nizkor Project), Paul Kneisel (Anti-Fascism.org), and Morris Dees the founder of
Southern Poverty Law Center aka SPLC)

~~Yale F. Edeiken's Obsession With Cock Sucking Documented~~

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/a9b67dd10fa5ff6f?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Bradbury's Obsession With Homosexual Fellatio
Message-ID: <tf5l6t82vcpsf9guu...@4ax.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 07:54:16 GMT
-----------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/d91b4675a3a2586f?fwc=1
Subject: Homosexual Sympathizer's (TallPaul Kneisel) Weak Attempt at Smear aka
Re: Bradbury's Obsession With Homosexual Fellatio
Message-ID: <m6hk6tsd7gj8fscra...@4ax.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 02:20:07 GMT

-----------------------------------

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/529ef0d004cb5ba9?rfwc=1
Subject: Re: Doc Tavish's Obsession with the Penis
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 11:43:51 -0500
Message-ID: <8pubj0528pcdblv6d...@4ax.com>

>He'll just have to haul his two-ton tub down to

You certainly are maniacally obsessed with obesity and rightfully so seeing how
your very own wife is one big "two-ton tub" as your website picture shows:
<"Thar she blows-- Dale the Whale" http://www.io.com/~patrick/vegas.html>

>Snowflake in the morning and stock up, before we get too
>close to his sanctum sanctorum, eh?

I never frequent the place yet you and your lard assed wife do and you seem to
have Snowflake on your brain:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=30&scoring=r&hl=en&as_epq=Snowflake&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=pat...@io.com&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=18&as_maxm=3&as_maxy=2006&safe=off
Searched all groups Results 1 - 30 of 37 for "Snowflake"
author:pat...@io.com
(Archived locally as: PLH_Obsessed_With_Snowflake)

Obviously your fat assed wife has an obsession for Krispy Kreme as well:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=30&scoring=r&hl=en&as_epq=Krispy+Kreme&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=pat...@io.com&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=18&as_maxm=3&as_maxy=2006&safe=off
Searched all groups Results 1 - 14 of 14 for "Krispy Kreme"
author:pat...@io.com
(Archived locally as: PLH_Obsessed_With_KrispyKreme)

Sample return:

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.penpals/msg/fa2f482033902b16?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: PLH_Obsessed_With_Shipley)
Sender: pat...@eris.io.com
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: Re: HOW FAR DO YOU LIVE AWAY FROM
References: <433037e9$0$245$1472...@news.sunsite.dk>
From: The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com>
Date: 20 Sep 2005 20:18:37 -0500
Message-ID: <szku0gf...@eris.io.com>

"%" <pers...@gmail.com> writes:

>a place where you can buy pastry type stuff

The nearest Shipley's is a couple of miles away at Westheimer and South
Gessner...they're local to Houston, and they beat Krispy Kreme any day.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas

chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)

LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Friday, October 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35

~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~

So we have evidence of Patrick Lee Humphrey obsessing about donut shops yet he
can't eat sweets because of his diabetes- hence it is his morbidly obese wife
keeping Patrick in persuit of the ever fattening donuts!

Proof Patrick Lee Humphrey is diabetic which means donuts are verboten for him:
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/images/gallery/chief.htm
(Archived locally as: PLH_Diabetic_Crip)

Picture of Patrick "The Crip" Humphrey and the ever Rotund Dale "The Donut
Queen" Humphrey: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/images/gallery/chief.jpg
(Picture of Patrick with walking stick archived locally as: Chief_Crip)
Posting Name: Patrick Humphrey Type: Type-1
Real Name: Patrick Humphrey Dx Date: Nov. 1, 1969
Location: Houston, Texas
Age: 49
Personal Comments: I'm sorry I didn't discover this newsgroup earlier. (The
pic is of me and Mrs. Chief at IAH welcoming our Aeros home after their Calder
Cup win in 2003. We're rabid hockey fans in Texas.)

--PLH, glad to find this place, even though I've been around Usenet since 1989

<end>

There you have it folks a Type-1 Diabetic and his obese wife yet Patrick likes
to call others derogatory names referring to their weight and doing so when he
has never even seen them!! So much for hypocrite Patrick and his jelly belly
wife.

Patrick if you could keep Dale The Whale away from donuts and all those fried
foods she likes to eat then perhaps she could slim down to 250 pounds within a
year.

Tavish

>--
> Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
> chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
> LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 3 (March 17)
> NEXT GAME: Saturday, March 18 at San Antonio, 7:05

Sara Salzman

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In article <gh2p12hvjhtlto01a...@4ax.com>,

Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:08:15 -0700,

Anyone who spends so much time researching words like "cock sucking"
must be obsessed with it.

Thanks for verifying your obsession.

Sara

wbarwell

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Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:

Take your personal squabbles out of
alt.religion.scientology

We have enough crap here already
This is not a flame group

Thank you

Herr Doktor Tavische

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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:35:12 -0600, <121pgd9...@corp.supernews.com>
wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:

>Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cdb1c64479fa19fc?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away From
Donuts and ALL Sweets!
Message-ID: <ubbp121rfksthqft0...@4ax.com>
Date: 19 Mar 2006 01:32:51 GMT

>Take your personal squabbles out of
>alt.religion.scientology
>
>We have enough crap here already
>This is not a flame group
>
>Thank you

Funny that you never tell Patrick Lee Humphrey what you tell me! Why is that?
You two are flaming scientologists all the time (care to deny it?) and you hate
it when I expose Patrick for the hypocrite he is and as you are as well. You
can't have two standards! If you two would leave scientology then the
scientologists would be very happy. Though I am not a scientologist they have no
beefs with me seeing how I get stalked and harassed by Patrick Lee Humphrey just
as they do.

Tavish

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ac3892053e0a95cd?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick L. Humphrey-- A Dangerous Stalker? - How To Identify Stalkers
Info UPDATED LINKS S_0202
Message-ID: <4n4u10thkq0jntg82...@4ax.com>
(EXCERPTED)
WHAT IS STALKING?
STALKING - pattern of words or conduct that is intended to cause and does cause
the targeted person to fear death, assault, bodily injury, or CSC upon the
person or member of the person's family.
HARASSMENT - pattern of intentional substantial and unreasonable intrusion
which causes the targeted person to suffer mental distress. A suspect must be
provided notice that contact is unwanted.
PSYCHOLOGICAL AND BEHAVIORAL PROFILE OF STALKERS
Simple Obsession Stalkers:
Simple obsession stalkers represent 70 to 80% of all stalking cases.
Characteristics include:
1 personality disorders.
2 emotional immaturity, jealousy and extreme insecurity.
3 inability to succeed in relationships by socially-accepted means.
4 dominating and intimidating victims in order to bolster own self-esteem.
5 biggest fear is losing the victim.
6 believing their lives have no worth without the victim.
7 turning to violence in order to control every aspect of the victim's life
STALKING BEHAVIOR PATTERNS AND CYCLES
1 Attempts at intimidation often begin in the form of an unjustified, jealous
and inappropriate intrusion into the victim's life.
2 Contacts become more numerous and intrusive over time, until such conduct
becomes a persistent pattern of harassment.
TYPES OF STALKING BEHAVIOR
1 visiting or following the victim
2 harassing telephone calls, which includes obscene calls and hang-ups
3 sending threatening mail, which is a federal felony
4 trespassing
5 vandalism
WHAT IS STALKING BEHAVIOR?
Stalking has been referred to as a "building block crime" because it usually
starts with small incidents that can get more and more serious. These incidents
can include such behaviors as:
1) following
2) watching
3) spying
4) tracking someone
==END==================================================================
Patrick Lee Humphrey: Facts about His TERMINATION From Rice University:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/58bf60a708d42cc3?fwc=1
Message-ID: <jjrv10h69n06h1h60...@4ax.com>

Tavish

Herr Doktor Tavische

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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:43:30 -0700,
<catamont-FC4D3E...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

>Anyone who spends so much time researching words like "cock sucking"
>must be obsessed with it.

It was your own people who started it (care to deny it you fat slob?) and I
showed them the errors of their warped assumptions you fat disgusting pig!

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/529ef0d004cb5ba9?fwc=1

LOOK!

we get:

As for Sara "Fat Lying Slob" Salzman's deluded accusation: "Anyone who spends so

much time researching words like "cock sucking" must be obsessed with it."

these two archives prove it was Paul Kneisel and Kenneth McVay who did the
research into cock sucking:

~~Yale F. Edeiken's Obsession With Cock Sucking Documented~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/a9b67dd10fa5ff6f?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Bradbury's Obsession With Homosexual Fellatio
Message-ID: <tf5l6t82vcpsf9guu...@4ax.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 07:54:16 GMT
-----------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/d91b4675a3a2586f?fwc=1
Subject: Homosexual Sympathizer's (TallPaul Kneisel) Weak Attempt at Smear aka
Re: Bradbury's Obsession With Homosexual Fellatio
Message-ID: <m6hk6tsd7gj8fscra...@4ax.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 02:20:07 GMT

>Thanks for verifying your obsession.

I am obsessed with facts. You Jews always accuse and project your own psyches on
others and when your hypocrisy is pointed out then you Yids act as you act now.

Your out of context quotes are lies because they distort what actually
transpired during a two way exchange. If truth were on your side then you would
not have to resort to such measures as the desperate losers use namely
fabricating vicious rumors and spreading them, deliberately quoting people out
of context, and the list goes on and on.

I have completely debunked the out of context quotes which you as a lying pig
started and which other cretins like to repeat:

~~Sara Salzman's Out of Context Quotes Exposed for Their Malicious Deceit~~
http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=bf4d3308dad101f4&_done=/group/alt.revisionism/msg/bf4d3308dad101f4
Click the link above and do as instructed to have all links and e-mail addresses
properly restored.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/bf4d3308dad101f4?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Bradbury Spews Again
Message-ID: <gurdv157iovh3tvas...@4ax.com>
Date: 18 Feb 2006 10:02:57 GMT

>Sara
>--
>-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
>is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
>you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!
>-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and the bulk of
>my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference. BTW my name is not
>Fatboy you stupid kike.
> --Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above

The above is more of your out of context deceit as proven here:

>-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
>is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
>you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!

Notice I called Art Tandy a lying Jew Bastard (which he is) AFTER I had my fill
of his continual verbal abuse! I guess you expect me to not respond to such
abuse in the manner I did which is another reason why Jews are despised. Most
people hate double standards!

The above exchange was a result of this:
<start/quote>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/8774def87f65d8db?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish ...
Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
References: <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
On 13 May 2003 21:18:58 -0700, <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
tar...@indystart.com (knight57) wrote:

><deleted unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named
>Fatbury Scumbag>

My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call is all
a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong you dirty filthy

lying Jew bastard! <END>
------------------------
Rather than dealing in facts your Jew decided he would rather engage in
name calling and chose to ignore my proofs and it is all fully documented here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/8fd00d6cb881ab3d?fwc=1
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy in Denial About Who The Main Gun Grabbers Are!
Message-ID: <rtasbv05mohed914k...@4ax.com>
Date: 11 May 2003 11:35:17 GMT (Archived as: AJT1)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/e8a753c50b100597?fwc=1
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy's Fellow Jews Are Trying to Extend Their Gun Control!
Message-ID: <kf6dcv8pgph2v568b...@4ax.com>
Date: 11 May 2003 11:35:17 GMT (Archived as: AJT2)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/8774def87f65d8db?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish (Classic Repost from January 17,
1997) Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
Date: 14 May 2003 13:23:47 GMT (Archived as: AJT3)
<end/quote>

>-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and
>the bulk of my posts prove so!

Still TRUE and my original postings as a whole are not personal attacks!
The greater majority of Art Tandy's posts are name calling and personal
attacks which seems to be a very common method of reply by Jews and their
gentile USEFUL IDIOTS! Anyone reading the above three archives will see me
presenting many documented facts and in every case Art Tandy would reply
with: "I deny it, you ignorant fat piece of lying shit.. You are a fat lying
ignorant fuck.. Fatboy Turns Blind and runs Away from the Issue.. I am
telling the TRUTH, something you cannot do very well, fatscum.. That
doesn't prove all Jews support gun control, you fucking moron. Your
logic is ridiculous and you are a stupid degenerate lowlife... <deleted
unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named Fatbury Scumbag>"

>You can't discern the difference.
>BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.

Who called names first? It is Okay for Jews to hurl abuse in post after post but
when the recipient gets tired of it and calls the bastard a KIKE then you think
it is ironic or hypocritical. If you Jews don't like being called kikes, swine,
vermin etc, then STOP calling everyone you can't refute names!

> --Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above

No, there is no irony. I will call you obnoxious Jews what you are every time
I've had my abundant fill of your name calling! If you don't want me to call you
and your fellow Christ Denying Pharisees KIKES or Lying Jew Bastards/Bitches in
reply to your kind's continual insults hurled at me then you should stop with
the name calling! Plain and simple!!

Tavish

_______________________________________________________________________________

wbarwell

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Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:35:12 -0600, <121pgd9...@corp.supernews.com>
> wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
>
>>Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cdb1c64479fa19fc?fwc=1
> Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away
> From Donuts and ALL Sweets!
> Message-ID: <ubbp121rfksthqft0...@4ax.com>
> Date: 19 Mar 2006 01:32:51 GMT
>
>>Take your personal squabbles out of
>>alt.religion.scientology
>>
>>We have enough crap here already
>>This is not a flame group
>>
>>Thank you
>
> Funny that you never tell Patrick Lee Humphrey what you tell me! Why is
> that? You two are flaming scientologists all the time (care to deny it?)

In alt.religion.scientology, scientology is defineitely on topic.
Humphery posts on topic in ARS. He does not drag purely personal
squabbles here. If you want to flame Scientology in ARS or flame
Scientology critics for criticizing Scientology, fine.
But the years long flame war between you two is off topic here.

Please knock it off. Take this to alt.flame if you must.

Cross posting "Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife"
isn't on topic in ARS.

Herr Doktor Tavische

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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:42:05 -0600, <121pnr6...@corp.supernews.com>
wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:

>Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:35:12 -0600, <121pgd9...@corp.supernews.com>
>> wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cdb1c64479fa19fc?fwc=1
>> Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away
>> From Donuts and ALL Sweets!
>> Message-ID: <ubbp121rfksthqft0...@4ax.com>
>> Date: 19 Mar 2006 01:32:51 GMT
>>
>>>Take your personal squabbles out of
>>>alt.religion.scientology
>>>
>>>We have enough crap here already
>>>This is not a flame group
>>>
>>>Thank you
>>
>> Funny that you never tell Patrick Lee Humphrey what you tell me! Why is
>> that? You two are flaming scientologists all the time (care to deny it?)

Why did you cut this part out? Can't deal with the real issue?

<start/quote>
[You two are flaming scientologists all the time (care to deny it?)] and you

hate
it when I expose Patrick for the hypocrite he is and as you are as well. You
can't have two standards! If you two would leave scientology then the
scientologists would be very happy. Though I am not a scientologist they have no
beefs with me seeing how I get stalked and harassed by Patrick Lee Humphrey just
as they do.

>In alt.religion.scientology, scientology is defineitely on topic.
>Humphery posts on topic in ARS.

He does not. Personal attacks and flames aren't on topic.

> He does not drag purely personal squabbles here.

He does 98% of the time. He name calls and implies all of his opponents are
nuts.

>If you want to flame Scientology in ARS

I have no problems with Scientologists and they have no problems with me even
though I am not of their fold.

>or flame Scientology critics for criticizing Scientology, fine.

You and Patrick aren't critics-- you're trolls and you know it.

>But the years long flame war between you two is off topic here.
>
>Please knock it off. Take this to alt.flame if you must.
>
>Cross posting "Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife" isn't on topic in ARS.

I'd imagine the Scientologists think it was funny because they think Patrick is
a mental case and a hypocrite too!

Tavish

Herr Doktor Tavische

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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:43:30 -0700,
<catamont-FC4D3E...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

>Anyone who spends so much time researching words like "cock sucking"
>must be obsessed with it.
>
>Thanks for verifying your obsession.

I verified that is was YOUR fellows who started with the "researching words like
"cock sucking" and thus are the ones "obsessed with it."

The obsession is with your fellow filth you lying sow and you chose to ignore
facts to preserve your childish out of context smears YET you wonder why Jews in
general are so despised today!

Anyone reading what I posted will see you for the deceitful fat slob you are
Sara! The lurkers may read what I posted untarnished at this link:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/13c36b213ed68578?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Patrick Lee Humphrey Too Much for Bellville's Scott Bradbury!
Message-ID: <gh2p12hvjhtlto01a...@4ax.com>

BTW why did you choose to go to a college known to cater to lesbians and other
deviants? You wanted to be in like company?

Birds of a feather flock together. You are just one big ol' husky beast aren't
you Sara? http://www.westword.com/issues/2000-08-10/news/feature3_4.gif
Lesbianism was very much of a factor at Sarah Lawrence in the 1970s to Sara!
Why did you choose to go to a haven for lesbos? Was it you preferred their
company?

>Sara
>
>--
>-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
>is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
>you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!
>-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and the bulk of
>my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference. BTW my name is not
>Fatboy you stupid kike.
> --Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above

Your out of context smear above now shown for the deceit it is:

>-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
>is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
>you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!

Notice I called Art Tandy a lying Jew Bastard (which he is) AFTER I had my fill

of his continual verbal abuse! I guess you expect me to not respond to such
abuse in the manner I did which is another reason why Jews are despised. Most
people hate double standards!

The above exchange was a result of this:
<start/quote>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/8774def87f65d8db?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish ...
Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
References: <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
On 13 May 2003 21:18:58 -0700, <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
tar...@indystart.com (knight57) wrote:

><deleted unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named
>Fatbury Scumbag>

My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call is all

a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong you dirty filthy

lying Jew bastard! <END>
------------------------
Rather than dealing in facts your Jew decided he would rather engage in
name calling and chose to ignore my proofs and it is all fully documented here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/8fd00d6cb881ab3d?fwc=1
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy in Denial About Who The Main Gun Grabbers Are!
Message-ID: <rtasbv05mohed914k...@4ax.com>
Date: 11 May 2003 11:35:17 GMT (Archived as: AJT1)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/e8a753c50b100597?fwc=1
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy's Fellow Jews Are Trying to Extend Their Gun Control!
Message-ID: <kf6dcv8pgph2v568b...@4ax.com>
Date: 11 May 2003 11:35:17 GMT (Archived as: AJT2)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/8774def87f65d8db?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish (Classic Repost from January 17,
1997) Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
Date: 14 May 2003 13:23:47 GMT (Archived as: AJT3)
<end/quote>

>-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and

>the bulk of my posts prove so!

Still TRUE and my original postings as a whole are not personal attacks!

The greater majority of Art Tandy's posts are name calling and personal
attacks which seems to be a very common method of reply by Jews and their
gentile USEFUL IDIOTS! Anyone reading the above three archives will see me
presenting many documented facts and in every case Art Tandy would reply
with: "I deny it, you ignorant fat piece of lying shit.. You are a fat lying
ignorant fuck.. Fatboy Turns Blind and runs Away from the Issue.. I am
telling the TRUTH, something you cannot do very well, fatscum.. That
doesn't prove all Jews support gun control, you fucking moron. Your
logic is ridiculous and you are a stupid degenerate lowlife... <deleted
unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named Fatbury Scumbag>"

>You can't discern the difference.

>BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.

Who called names first? It is Okay for Jews to hurl abuse in post after post but

when the recipient gets tired of it and calls the bastard a KIKE then you think
it is ironic or hypocritical. If you Jews don't like being called kikes, swine,
vermin etc, then STOP calling everyone you can't refute names!

> --Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above

No, there is no irony. I will call you obnoxious Jews what you are every time

I've had my abundant fill of your name calling! If you don't want me to call you
and your fellow Christ Denying Pharisees KIKES or Lying Jew Bastards/Bitches in
reply to your kind's continual insults hurled at me then you should stop with
the name calling! Plain and simple!!

NOW DROP DEAD FOR ALL OF US YOU DECEITFUL SWINE!

Tavish

_______________________________________________________________________________

wbarwell

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Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:42:05 -0600, <121pnr6...@corp.supernews.com>
> wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
>
>>Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:35:12 -0600, <121pgd9...@corp.supernews.com>
>>> wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:
>>>
>>>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cdb1c64479fa19fc?fwc=1
>>> Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away
>>> From Donuts and ALL Sweets!
>>> Message-ID: <ubbp121rfksthqft0...@4ax.com>
>>> Date: 19 Mar 2006 01:32:51 GMT
>>>
>>>>Take your personal squabbles out of
>>>>alt.religion.scientology
>>>>
>>>>We have enough crap here already
>>>>This is not a flame group
>>>>
>>>>Thank you
>>>
>>> Funny that you never tell Patrick Lee Humphrey what you tell me! Why is
>>> that? You two are flaming scientologists all the time (care to deny it?)
>
> Why did you cut this part out? Can't deal with the real issue?
>

Its not an issue in ARS, idiot.

Its off topic. You think he's an oaf?
Well, you are every bit an oaf youself.
The issue is, your stupid flame war,
crossposted to ARS is highly off topic.
Ask your ISP.

Before I do.

"Re: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese wife...."
This is off topic in alt.religion.scientology.

Do you want your ISP's abuse department to
spell it out for you?
I trimmed ARS from the group list, you added it
right back. Don't do that again.

Take it to alt.flame or elsewhere. Not ARS.

The Chief Instigator

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Robert Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:

>On 17 Mar 2006 12:49:23 -0600, <szkpskk6h...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>>>>>>This is 2006, Bellville's Scott Bradbury (Texas' leading revisionist

>What another poster named James Roberts

Quoting your own sockpuppets is one more sign of eligibility for admission to
Rusk...did you have fun hiding under your roof yesterday, despite the fact we
got no closer to your dump than Sealy, while we were going to and from San
Antonio?

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)

LAST GAME: San Antonio 3, Houston 0 (March 18)
NEXT GAME: Sunday, March 19 vs. San Antonio, 5:05

The Chief Instigator

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Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> writes:

>In article <szkek10...@fnord.io.com>,
> The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>> Brimstone <captbr...@noyaho.com> writes:

>> >Your wife is far more obese than Tavish. Since you are the one with a
>> >fetish for fat people, I'll assume your desire for Tavish is sexual in
>> >nature. He is heterosexual.

>> He's every bit as heterosexual as you are, cowardly sockpuppet - and he's
>> as queer as a $3 bill, by the way he obsesses on it. He'll just have to
>> haul his two-ton tub down to Snowflake in the morning and stock up, before
>> we get too close to his sanctum sanctorum, eh?

>If Bradbury is a "heterosexual," why does he have such an obsession with
>homosexuality?

>Scott Bradbury's Obsession with Penises:
>
>REPORT ME THEN YOU STUPID PENIS SUCKER!!
>Message-ID: s1uc505urd4n6ehu4...@4ax.com

>Not only are you a gay boy penis muncher but you are a communist too
>which makes you a Commie Pinko Fag!
>Message-ID: <c04o9059bcs57auqf...@4ax.com>

[27 more of Bradbury's Greatest Fantasies]

Why is he obsessed with homosexuality? Probably because his guiding principle
is "Do as I SAY, not as I do!"...

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)

The Chief Instigator

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R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:

>On 18 Mar 2006 00:20:06 -0600, <szkek10...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>>Brimstone <captbr...@noyaho.com> writes:

>>>Your wife is far more obese than Tavish. Since you are the one with a
>>>fetish for fat people, I'll assume your desire for Tavish is sexual in
>>>nature. He is heterosexual.

>>He's every bit as heterosexual as you are, cowardly sockpuppet - and he's as
>>queer as a $3 bill, by the way he obsesses on it.

>I only point out how you and your fellows' support gays and/or are gay as in:

All you can point out is your pathological obsession with hating Jews and
anyone else who isn't a Nazi like you, Fatbury. Thanks for continuing to
prove that observation beyond any reasonable shadow of a doubt. (I've got a
wife, you've got a dump with a broken window. I think I'll keep what I've
got.)

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)

The Chief Instigator

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R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:

>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:35:12 -0600, <121pgd9...@corp.supernews.com>
>wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:

>>Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:

>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cdb1c64479fa19fc?fwc=1
>Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away From
>Donuts and ALL Sweets!
>Message-ID: <ubbp121rfksthqft0...@4ax.com>
>Date: 19 Mar 2006 01:32:51 GMT

>>Take your personal squabbles out of
>>alt.religion.scientology

>>We have enough crap here already
>>This is not a flame group
>>
>>Thank you

>Funny that you never tell Patrick Lee Humphrey what you tell me! Why is that?

Because you're the one posting your crap to newsgroups I participate in, Nazi
coward. It's quite obvious why you do it...and what you refuse to deal with
it the fact that no one but your fellow anonymous Nazi cowards cares what
delusions you see.

>You two are flaming scientologists all the time (care to deny it?) and you
>hate it when I expose Patrick for the hypocrite he is and as you are as
>well. You can't have two standards! If you two would leave scientology then
>the scientologists would be very happy. Though I am not a scientologist they
>have no beefs with me seeing how I get stalked and harassed by Patrick Lee
>Humphrey just as they do.

Is anyone forcing you to read anything posted by me, or Pope Charles? No?
Then kindly shut the fuck up and have one of your caretakers try to teach you
how to filter your newsreader so you're not being forced at gunpoint to read
anything we post. (Or else Dale and I will just have to travel towards
Bellville again, tonight.)

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)

The Chief Instigator

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R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:

>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:42:05 -0600, <121pnr6...@corp.supernews.com>
>wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:

>>Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:

>>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:35:12 -0600, <121pgd9...@corp.supernews.com>
>>> wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:

>>>>Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:

>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cdb1c64479fa19fc?fwc=1
>>> Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away
>>> From Donuts and ALL Sweets!
>>> Message-ID: <ubbp121rfksthqft0...@4ax.com>
>>> Date: 19 Mar 2006 01:32:51 GMT

>>>>Take your personal squabbles out of
>>>>alt.religion.scientology

>>>>We have enough crap here already
>>>>This is not a flame group
>>>>
>>>>Thank you

>>> Funny that you never tell Patrick Lee Humphrey what you tell me! Why is
>>> that? You two are flaming scientologists all the time (care to deny it?)

>Why did you cut this part out? Can't deal with the real issue?

No, it's because he's all too aware of what a mentally ill gibbering kook you
are, and isn't required to deal with your abusive postings in newsgroups that
have nothing to do with your Nazi fanaticism.

>>In alt.religion.scientology, scientology is defineitely on topic.
>>Humphery posts on topic in ARS.

>He does not. Personal attacks and flames aren't on topic.

This is an alt. group, Moron de Bellville. No one runs the group.

>> He does not drag purely personal squabbles here.

>He does 98% of the time. He name calls and implies all of his opponents are
>nuts.

56 years old, and you're whining "he did it TOO!". Sheesh.

>>If you want to flame Scientology in ARS

>I have no problems with Scientologists and they have no problems with me even
>though I am not of their fold.

I guess that's why some a.r.s posters have gone to the trouble to tell you to
kindly quit abusing the newsgroup they're in.

>>or flame Scientology critics for criticizing Scientology, fine.

>You and Patrick aren't critics-- you're trolls and you know it.

You're an arrogant IQ-65 mental case hiding in a dump in Bellville, Texas - as
has been documented.

>>But the years long flame war between you two is off topic here.

>>Please knock it off. Take this to alt.flame if you must.

>>Cross posting "Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife" isn't on topic in ARS.

>I'd imagine the Scientologists think it was funny because they think Patrick is
>a mental case and a hypocrite too!

You imagine all kinds of things about me that have very little, if anything,
to do with fact. Keep on drawing attention to your psychosis, and you will
get help, indeed. Rusk may be in your future.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)

Herr Doktor Tavische

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On 19 Mar 2006 11:42:37 -0600, <szkfyle...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>>I have no problems with Scientologists and they have no problems with me even
>>though I am not of their fold.
>
>I guess that's why some a.r.s posters have gone to the trouble to tell you to
>kindly quit abusing the newsgroup they're in.

The only people who are complaining aren't the Scientologists but people such as
you and Barwell who regularly bash Scientologists. Care to name one
Scientologist who has asked me to leave?
Tavish

Herr Doktor Tavische

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On 19 Mar 2006 11:32:48 -0600, <szkk6aq...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>Then kindly shut the fuck up and have one of your caretakers try to teach you
>how to filter your newsreader so you're not being forced at gunpoint to read
>anything we post. (Or else Dale and I will just have to travel towards
>Bellville again, tonight.)

I don't take orders from nut cases. BTW subtle threat noted and logged.

Tavish

~~Mounting Evidence Patrick's Wife Devours Donuts Voraciously~~

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cdb1c64479fa19fc?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away From
Donuts and ALL Sweets!
Message-ID: <ubbp121rfksthqft0...@4ax.com>
Date: 19 Mar 2006 01:32:51 GMT

_______________________________________________________________________________

Herr Doktor Tavische

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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 06:51:20 -0600, <121qkgp...@corp.supernews.com>
wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:

>Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:42:05 -0600, <121pnr6...@corp.supernews.com>
>> wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:35:12 -0600, <121pgd9...@corp.supernews.com>
>>>> wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cdb1c64479fa19fc?fwc=1
>>>> Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away
>>>> From Donuts and ALL Sweets!
>>>> Message-ID: <ubbp121rfksthqft0...@4ax.com>
>>>> Date: 19 Mar 2006 01:32:51 GMT
>>>>
>>>>>Take your personal squabbles out of
>>>>>alt.religion.scientology
>>>>>
>>>>>We have enough crap here already
>>>>>This is not a flame group

You and Patrick Lee Humphrey flame and harass people all the time in ARS which I
don't do. Have you noticed that not one Scientologist has asked me to leave?
They would like it if you and Humphrey were to take a hike! Care to deny it?

>>>>>Thank you
>>>>
>>>> Funny that you never tell Patrick Lee Humphrey what you tell me! Why is
>>>> that? You two are flaming scientologists all the time (care to deny it?)
>>
>> Why did you cut this part out? Can't deal with the real issue?
>>
>
>Its not an issue in ARS, idiot.
>
>Its off topic. You think he's an oaf?
>Well, you are every bit an oaf youself.
>The issue is, your stupid flame war,
>crossposted to ARS is highly off topic.
>Ask your ISP.
>
>Before I do.

So now the troll and harasser of Scientologists has set himself up as a netcop
and moderator!

>"Re: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese wife...."
> This is off topic in alt.religion.scientology.
>
> Do you want your ISP's abuse department to
> spell it out for you?
> I trimmed ARS from the group list, you added it
> right back. Don't do that again.
>
> Take it to alt.flame or elsewhere. Not ARS.

Speaking of some real flames how do you like these gems (are these on topic?)
posted by you and your fellow troll Patrick Lee Humphrey:

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: MORE Hubbard bullsit!
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 01:22:57 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <121q18p...@corp.supernews.com>

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: William Barwell drinks rum, that explains a lot
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:16:28 -0600
Message-ID: <121pprl...@corp.supernews.com>

We don't believe Schwarzy is Elrons daughter, that we all have SNEGMPUS
electronic ear implants and 101 really stupid things like this.
We laugh.

only really super intelligent people believe stuff like that.
Schwarzy and kook Kearsy

<end>

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Great job battling the intoxicated druggies on ARS, bro!
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 01:41:41 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <121q2bs...@corp.supernews.com>

Brain damaged? SEGMNPUS, ear implants, electric bees,
you are obviously not all there. Loopy, whacked,
out of it, delusional, and a true goofball.

<end>

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.astrology
Subject: Re: Babs is in Film at 1159pm
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:42:35 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <1204t0m...@corp.supernews.com>

Kadaitcha Man wrote:

>> Change that to "G0od Samaritan ALERT!!!!1!" and you've won a cheap,
>> machine-made, cigar.
>
> You change it, you fucking useless twat.
>
>> Outer filth.
>
> Nice sig. Rotten sig separator.

Watch that language. You'll make Schwarzy get
all hot n' bothered talkin' like that.

<end>

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Hey, David Touretzky, do you think THAT is appropriate?
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 03:14:19 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <120lal2...@corp.supernews.com>

How many times HAVE you been in a mental institute now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Schwarz

<end>

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.religion.scientology,de.soc.weltanschauung.scientology,fr.soc.sectes,nl.scientology
Subject: Re: Dave Touretzky attacked by his rats or a huge dildo? You be the
judge.
Followup-To: alt.religion.scientology
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:54:27 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <120soh4...@corp.supernews.com>

Barbara Schwarz wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Touretzky#Complimentary_photo
>
>
> --
> Barbara Schwarz

That's no dildo, that's crazy woman Schwarz.

<end>

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: ISAAC HAYES....WHAT A JOKE!
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:17:01 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <121lgpj...@corp.supernews.com>

This reminds me of a hated phrase, "baby Christians".
Used by some Christians of the fundy type. You start
with fuzzy pink bunny Christianity of a vague sort as
to not startle the "baby Christians" and you lead them
up to things like the rapture and other goofy nonsense.
There is a gradient to it all and they sell lots and
lots of books teaching Christians how to reach people
with arguments they hope will work.

Scientology is simply a more intense version, baby
Scientologists who don't need to know about Xenu or
BTs just yet.

<end>

Just like Humphrey-- you bash Christians as well!

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/f9ac4c8dfebe7f32
(Archived locally as: PLHanti-Christ_1)
Message-ID: <szkbsfn...@eris.io.com>
shi...@yahoo.com (Ruth Muraya) writes:
>please avoid using foul language when addressing issues relating to
>Jesus Christ else you will surely DIE!!!!.

We all have to face that eventually...why don't you let your alleged savior
speak for himself?
--PLH, I found Jesus! He was buried under the dustbunnies back of the couch
==============================================================================
http://groups.google.com/group/ok.general/msg/9fd9722c6ea8e772
(Archived locally as: PLHanti-Christ_2)
From: pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey)
Message-ID: <szkr9mm...@eris.io.com>
Valerie Gould <sgo...@ionet.net> writes:
>I will continue to worship my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ anyway I please.

You can worship Tinky Winky, for all I care -- but this is Usenet, and idiots
like you don't have a _right_ to clog this newsgroup with your crap, no matter
what you think your alleged deity tells you... --PLH
==============================================================================
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/bc6c43ccb4622044
(Archived locally as: PLHanti-Christ_3)
Message-ID: <szkemlk...@dillinger.io.com>
"millerbeers" <mille...@email.msn.com> writes:
>What do you mean by "death-cult"?

Well, what would you call a religion that makes such a big deal of its
supposed founder being nailed up and left to die, and crafts such a convoluted
morality that produces such marvels as suffering being deemed virtuous?
--PLH, think I'll stick to more common-sense notions than those
==============================================================================
http://groups.google.com/group/utexas.general/msg/b3b6da4999f71738
(Archived locally as: PLHanti-Christ_4)
Message-ID: <szken0b...@bermuda.io.com>
"Actually, the way I look at it, if this Jesus fellow died for
our sins, why make his death meaningless by not committing a few of 'em? ;-)
--PLH, just helping some of the more devout churchfolks out"
==============================================================================
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.abortion.inequity/msg/bc37b24a422b47d5
(Archived locally as: PatrickRICE05 and PatrickRICE06)
Message-ID: <828s71$an2$1...@joe.rice.edu>
TerryG (terryg1...@my-deja.com) writes:
>There is nothing moderate about abortion so stop deluding yourself.

You have no authority to decide for anyone else what's moderate, so maybe you
should take your own advice for once, eh?
--PLH, having fun watching the latest cafeteria Christian with his
pathologically bloated ego waddle through here
==============================================================================
Patrick's wife is a waddler so he doesn't have much room to talk!

< "Thar she blows-- Dale the Whale" http://www.io.com/~patrick/vegas.html >

No wonder why you and your fellow troll are such bosom buddies William Barwell!

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Well, clams! What's your answer!
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:27:55 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <121ma1q...@corp.supernews.com>

Hey! Where are all you super-human, more
able than norms, Scientology goofballs?

I think Hubbard was an idiot and Stupidology
is an insane fraud!

<end>

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: More scams from DM (what's new?)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:40:26 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <121mvrr...@corp.supernews.com>

The problem is, with Cruise making Stupidology an item, all
that space cootie bizness is getting wide play and who
is going to want to do Stupidology and exoercise space
cooties?

<end>

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Ritalin, Cure or Crime?
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:42:56 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <121n00h...@corp.supernews.com>

Quit spamming ARS with off topic crap, clamhead.

Hey! Where are all you super-human, more
able than norms, Scientology goofballs?

<end>

As if your trolls and insults are on topic. You are as delusional and
hypocritical as Humphrey!!

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.slack,alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: Re: Another foot-bullet ! Tom Cruise's pressuring to stop South Park
makes it to DrudgeReport
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:33:44 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <121p99i...@corp.supernews.com>

The Kearsley Curse wrote:

> Report barwell's SPAMMING to ab...@supernews.com

Want me to net cop you and Barb for your spamming,
personal attacks, and off topic posting on ARS?

Take your personal flame wars out of ARS.

<end>

You are the pot calling the kettle black Barwell.

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Roadrunner, how about a visit here in Realityland
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:50:22 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <121ph9o...@corp.supernews.com>

The Kearsley Curse wrote:

> wbarwell wrote:
>> The Kearsley Curse wrote:
>>
>> > Good for Barbara. She has things she believes in and she feels strongly
>> > about them.
>>
>> Nazi SNEGMPUS, ear implants, electric bees, Submarine bases in Utah,
>> daughter of L Ron Hubbad, and on and on.
>>
>> Obvioulsy here, you are showing your true colors.
>> Egging on Schwarz to fill ARS with insane crap,
>> spamming this stuff incessently.
>> And starting flame wars.
>>
>> You are obviously an op here, or a truely stupid kook.
>> I suspect op.
>>
>> She is an ambulatory schizophrenic and you are
>> using here to spam ARS.
>
> LOL! *Nobody* uses Barbara. She's very much her own person and in
> control of her own life.

You use her, you egg her on.
Get lost creep. Take your shit
stirring crap elsewhere.

Take Mrs Nazi electric ear implants with you.

<end>

Looks like hurling insults is your game William and yet you tell others to get
lost as if you are someone influential and important.

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Tory, you were in no cult, you are just dramatizing your OWs and
poor Harold is defamed
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 01:32:00 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <121q1pn...@corp.supernews.com>

You are crazy and stupid

Schwarz is an insane woman! Too bad Scientology
can't help with that.

<end>

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Another foot-bullet ! Tom Cruise's pressuring to stop South Park
makes it to DrudgeReport
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 02:22:14 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <121q4o9...@corp.supernews.com>

The Kearsley Curse wrote:

> wbarwell wrote:
>> The Kearsley Curse wrote:
>>
>> > Report barwell's SPAMMING to ab...@supernews.com
>>
>> Take your personal flame wars out of ARS.
>> Spammimg? Schwarzy is ARS's worse save
>> Turd leaker.
>
> Again, report barwell's SPAMMING to abuse @ supernews.com

Look ASSHOLE. You are the one who keeps poking Barbara
the crazy lady to keep he crapping up ARS.

When she hatefully attacks somebody, she gets her craziness
pointed out as a defense of those attacked.

[...]

I am going to make many, many Barb is whacko
defense posts, and I am going to keep at her.
Until she stops attacking people.

And if you keep egging her on, I will take up
the issue of her illegality in the USE with the authorities,
and you may cause her a lot of trouble by harassing me
when I try to rein in her massive personal attack
flood on ARS posters.

DO YOU WANT TO BE THE GUY WHO CAUSES THAT!?
I have not up to now done that.
Do you want to piss me off and make me
take the trouble to deal with her that way?

You drag your sorry ass out of ARS and stop
poking her to keep her stirring the shit up.
You shit on me, I shit on Barbara a LOT harder.

You got it, creep?!

[...]

You want to provoke me asshole?!
Because you are about to.

<end>

My oh my-- you are like Patrick Lee Humphrey. You are a news group totalitarian
wannabee!

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Roadrunner, how about a visit here in Realityland
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 06:36:36 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <121qjl5...@corp.supernews.com>

The Kearsley Curse wrote:

> wbarwell wrote:
>> The Kearsley Curse wrote:
>>
>> > TOP POSTING:
>> >
>> > Wow! What a rant.
>> >
>> > Bill, you are harming your own cause.
>>
>> You cause seems to be a flame war you are losing.
>
> Oh, we are having a flame war? I didn't know that...
>

You know very well Schwarz is and has been.
She has slowed down only because she no longer
is allowed to squat all day in a slat lake, Utah library.

[...]

You shit on me, I shit on your tool Schwarz, heavy duty.

You say to me "If you all protect yourself from Schwarz's
libels I will net cop you as a spammer".

Yes, you are part of a flame war here, Schwarz started.
Now you have raised the stakes with your threats.

When Schwarz libels, smears and attacks, I post.
ARS citizens have every right to protect themselves
from Schwarz's hysterical libels and smears.

<<Tavish comment March 19, 2006: But you aren't an "ARS citizen" William
Barwell. You are an unwelcomed troll who harasses the people the ARS news
group was created for.>>

By pointing out she is not reliable.

You don't like that, drop dead. You net cop me, again,
I start filing the necessary paper work for her deportation
and follow it up with floods of letters to people farther
up the food chain than the lowly bureacrats.

And stop stalking other people.

Fuck with me asshole, and I will work like a rabid
raccoon overtime to pull Schwarz's plug.
You wanna try me!?

<<Tavish comment March 19, 2006: You are as psychotic as your bosom buddy
Patrick "Peeping Tom" Humphrey.>>

<end>

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Dave Touretzky is a loner who can't find a wife
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 22:52:56 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <120krb2...@corp.supernews.com>

One of the many fans of the http://www.parishioners.org/ wrote:

> wbarwell wrote:
>> B
>
> BARWELL, WE ARE TIRED OF THE DAILY MASSIVE WILLIAM CHARLES BARWELL
> SPAM, LIES, DEFAMATION, ABUSE AND HARASSMENT.

Bwhahhahahah! Cackle, snort guffaw!
Dance my little monkey, dance!

<end>

It is YOU who isn't welcomed in ARS!! Care to deny it William Barwell!?

Here you are showing your lying bias for Patrick and some of the trolls Patrick
makes which you claim are on topic:

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.religion.scientology,houston.general
Subject: Re: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away From
Donuts and ALL Sweets!

Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:42:05 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <121pnr6...@corp.supernews.com>

Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:

>>This is not a flame group
>>
>>Thank you
>
> Funny that you never tell Patrick Lee Humphrey what you tell me! Why is
> that? You two are flaming scientologists all the time (care to deny it?)

In alt.religion.scientology, scientology is defineitely on topic.
Humphery posts on topic in ARS. He does not drag purely personal
squabbles here. If you want to flame Scientology in ARS or flame

Scientology critics for criticizing Scientology, fine.

But the years long flame war between you two is off topic here.

Please knock it off. Take this to alt.flame if you must.

<end>

Some of Humphrey's "on topic" posts?

Sender: pat...@fnord.io.com
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Dave Touretzky reminds me to the Unabomber
References: <OHPKA2KQ38772.8307407407@anonymous.poster>

From: The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com>

Date: 24 Feb 2006 20:11:29 -0600
Message-ID: <szk1wxs...@fnord.io.com>

That you're still Barbara Schwarz, and you still can't hack simple English
once you get into one of your psychotic whinefests.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas

<end>

Sender: pat...@fnord.io.com
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Buffalo Org pulls their event calendar
References: <4400d5c0$1...@news2.lightlink.com> <szkpslb...@fnord.io.com>
<dtr1bs$2lt$1...@news.tdl.com>

From: The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com>

Date: 25 Feb 2006 21:41:29 -0600
Message-ID: <szky7zy...@fnord.io.com>

"Phil Scott" <phil...@philscott.net> writes:

>"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
>news:szkpslb...@fnord.io.com...
>> d...@cs.cmu.edu (Dave Touretzky) writes:

[...]

> You didnt happen to attend our picket of the Houston Org
>on Fondren (Westheimer and fondren) next to Fuzzy's Pizza in
>about 1995 did you? 3 of us arrived.

The wife and I were two of the locals there. Was that on May 20? (That was
my 40th birthday, and I spent some time picketing that day annoying the local
clams.)

>I ordered clam pizza from Fuzzys... mostly we sat around and
>ate clam pizza and making clam jokes, I invited some of the
>scn's...two FSM's showed up, but would not eat the
>pizza...which is understandable.

That was the gathering at which I scammed a free copy of Dianetics from "Tom
Wright". (I'm not much for molluscs on a pie, either, so I can't blame the
FSMs for shying away as well.)

>We did picket for a while though. The place was getting very
>little foot traffic then..

No kidding - and that's on what may be the busiest surface street in Texas.
It hasn't changed much since then, except that the mission seems to be less
and less populated. The last couple of times Dale and I have been to Fuzzy's
of an evening, there has been *one* person there.

>I told them then that if they would cease with lying,
>cheating, stealing and sending out thugs that they'd do
>better....but nooooo... they just kept it up.
>those people are slow learners.

That would be a fitting epitaph for the leaders of the "Church" of
Scientology, indeed.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas

<end>

Sender: pat...@fnord.io.com
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Anti-religious extremists are insane name callers

From: The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com>

Date: 26 Feb 2006 01:14:42 -0600
Message-ID: <szku0am...@fnord.io.com>

>> >Barbara Schwarz <barbara...@gmail.com> lied:

>> >>As far as the mental problems are concerned, I have none

>> >That's a lie, Barbara. You have demonstrate extreme problems
>> >with delusions and other exotic and obsessive behavior.
>> >How many times have you been locked up?

>> Obviously, not enough.

>I read about you that you peep into other people's bathroom, that means
>that YOU should be locked up.

You believe anything you see that you can use to attack others - and in this
fantasy of yours, it's coming from people who are fans of the Nazis that tried
to destroy your country. If you think it's factual, report me...and then
you'll find out why courts have declared you persona non grata.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas

<end>

Sender: pat...@fnord.io.com
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.astrology
Subject: Re: Babs is in Film at 1159pm
References: <bt-A43450.14495025022006@localhost>
<1140918104.8...@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
<666$h2.4tw3t.515O.MinISGAy.89s102.K$lyDtFj.sm2b...@3g4f454.46474>
<1140929314.4...@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>
<666$h2.4tw3s.515O.MinISGAy.89s202.K$lyDtFj.sm2b...@3g4f454.46474>
<21m2029ciql6u6upg...@4ax.com>
<Xns9776679431...@198.186.190.225>
<1140997010.4...@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>

From: The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com>

Date: 26 Feb 2006 19:03:20 -0600
Message-ID: <szkr75p...@fnord.io.com>

"Barbara Schwarz" <barbara...@gmail.com> writes:

[...]

>True words. And who wants to be a substantial chunk of space inside of
>the head of dirty old men stalkers? Most certainly not me.

No, you'd rather spew your insanity and then attack people for not believing
it. You're going to be de-programmed, one way or another.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas

<end>

Sender: pat...@fnord.io.com
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Remember this website
References: <1141232384.1...@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>
<szkirqy...@fnord.io.com>
<1141234425.3...@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>

From: The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com>

Date: 01 Mar 2006 22:18:37 -0600
Message-ID: <szk4q2h...@fnord.io.com>

"Barbara Schwarz" <barbara...@gmail.com> writes:

[...]

>I am not standing against freedom of speech, peeping Patrick Humphrey
>but against sexual harassment. Remember, I didn't remove any of Dave's
>websites but my truthful sites were censored.

No, you just whine at them, but refuse to follow through on what you
supposedly believe. You're either lying, or you really are certifiably
psychotic. Neither makes you look respectable.

>And I would not want my kids to be educated by a porn professor. But I
>understand that Dave Touretzky is your cult leader, so you feel you
>have to applaude anything he does. You are a Touretzky cultist. In my
>opinion, you are being brainwashed.

I have no cult leaders, Babbles. That's a fact you're incapable of
understanding, but you have no problems repeating the same impotent libel that
I'm a peeping Tom. Hubbard's a fraud, and you're an insane illegal alien.
You'll be de-programmed, whether you consent or not.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas

<end>

Sender: pat...@fnord.io.com
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.astrology
Subject: Re: how many times has Barbara been committed?
References: <4b0b8ad3397100a5...@deuxpi.ca>
<666$H5.4tz2X.515O.MiNisGaY.89T324.K$lzetFk.sm3c...@3g4f454.46g4374>
<dvd6ot$fs6$3...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>
<1142641773....@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
<666$H5.41b2X.515O.MiNisGaY.89T134.K$lzdtFk.sn3d...@3g4g454.46g4374>

From: The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com>

Organization: Illuminati Online
User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3
Date: 17 Mar 2006 21:56:35 -0600
Message-ID: <szkpskk...@fnord.io.com>

Eru IlÃºvatar <alsima...@yahoo.com> writes:

>Barbara Schwarz <barbara...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>I think psych drugs make Stapleton so crazy.

>He's crazy without the drugs. But I'm not Peat and I'm not crazy.
>You just call me names because you don't like me exercizing my
>right to free speech.

She hates anyone exercising that right.

>>He is almost 80 years old, and I am sure he blames me on that he
>>is impotent, that is why he stalks me.

>Nobody is stalking you. Please keep your dirty sex fantasies
>to yourself. We don't want to hear any more about your dildos
>either.

How many times has Babblin' Barbara Schwarz been committed? Nowhere near
enough.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas

<end>

In light of all of the above which are typical Humphrey postings do you still
want to claim your lies are true?

I.E.

From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.religion.scientology,houston.general
Subject: Re: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away From
Donuts and ALL Sweets!

Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:42:05 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <121pnr6...@corp.supernews.com>

Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:

>>Take your personal squabbles out of
>>alt.religion.scientology
>>
>>We have enough crap here already
>>This is not a flame group
>>
>>Thank you
>
> Funny that you never tell Patrick Lee Humphrey what you tell me! Why is
> that? You two are flaming scientologists all the time (care to deny it?)

In alt.religion.scientology, scientology is defineitely on topic.
Humphery posts on topic in ARS. He does not drag purely personal
squabbles here. If you want to flame Scientology in ARS or flame

Scientology critics for criticizing Scientology, fine.

<end>

Need I say more?
Tavish

~~Mounting Evidence Patrick's Wife Devours Donuts Voraciously~~

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cdb1c64479fa19fc?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away From
Donuts and ALL Sweets!
Message-ID: <ubbp121rfksthqft0...@4ax.com>
Date: 19 Mar 2006 01:32:51 GMT

_______________________________________________________________________________

Herr Doktor Tavische

unread,

Mar 19, 2006, 8:54:24 PM3/19/06

to

On 19 Mar 2006 11:18:31 -0600, <szkwteq...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>we got no closer to your dump than Sealy

Speaking of dumps:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/107ff7e7e0c5188c?fwc=1
Subject: UPDATED Chestnut Hill Apartments of Houston, Texas is Patrick Lee
Humphrey's DUMP! v3.0 U_0304
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:03:44 -0600
Message-ID: <9vtp02htqfik2co6p...@4ax.com>
(Archived locally as: Humphreys_Dump_USENET_V3)
Excerpts on Patrick's dump from five different former renters:
"1) The apartment complex looks like a dump... We have drug dealers and hookers
wandering around the complex starting fist fights. My child is never allowed to
play outside now b/c management has allowed registered sex offenders move in...
2) First of all the drug population is huge and very obvious. We would receive
notices of our neighbors being mugged, robbed, and raped monthly. If you want to
see boxing matches, just stand outside and see the numerous fights that erupted
there... As for the conditions of the apartments, it's bad. There is a lot of
mold behind the walls and if you live on the 2nd or 3rd floor the floors are
unstable. The walls are all patched up because the apartments are all
shifting... It is a very dangerous place to live.
3) In the 13 months I lived here I was attacked by a stranger, my car was
stolen, my truck was broken into twice... They boast about security gates, but
that doesn't matter when most of the people committing the crimes live inside of
the gate. Lots of drug activity and prostitution...
4) I got held-up at gunpoint last Valentine's day in the parking lot. A month
later my car was broken into... I don't feel safe walking outside by myself...
The place is filthy and unsafe."
5) "gun shooting over night, bad apartments, very poor maintenance"
--------------------------------
Those are comments from five former tenants who lived at Patrick Lee Humphrey's
DUMP but had the motive to move out. Why is it both Patrick and his wife work
YET live in an apartment complex former tenants described as a ghetto and dump
which is over run by drugs and prostitutes? Either the Humphreys can't afford to
move out OR they like the environment and their gangsta ho' pimpin' criminal
neighbors.
----------
http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/TX-Houston-Chestnut-Hill-Apartments.html
Chestnut Hill Apartments 8.0% Overall Rating <<VERY LOW RATING!!!
7500 Bellerive Drive ^^^^
Houston, TX 77036

DATE OPINION RECOMMENDED RATING
01/29/2006 Hell No! Dont Move Here NO 1.0
12/29/2005 the worst place I have ever seen.....hell is better NO 1.0
12/02/2005 6 Months - Yes...Longer than 6 Months - NO WAY!!! NO 2.0
11/23/2005 Dangerous place NO 1.0
07/20/2005 Chestnut Hell Apartments NO 1.0
10/30/2004 Ghetto NO 1.0
10/24/2004 DON'T MOVE IN! NO 1.0
08/17/2004 Bad place NO 1.0

Tavish

~~Mounting Evidence Patrick's Wife Devours Donuts Voraciously~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cdb1c64479fa19fc?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away From
Donuts and ALL Sweets!
Message-ID: <ubbp121rfksthqft0...@4ax.com>
Date: 19 Mar 2006 01:32:51 GMT

Barbara Schwarz

unread,

Mar 19, 2006, 9:01:59 PM3/19/06

to

Herr Doktor Tavische schrieb:

> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 06:51:20 -0600, <121qkgp...@corp.supernews.com>
> wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:

William Barwell and Patrick Humphrey are awfully cozy. Do you have
information on Barwell?

--
Barbara Schwarz
Looking for the original Mark (Marty) Rathbun. (No impostor, please!)
--
L. Ron Hubbard: "THE CRIMINAL ACCUSES OTHERS OF THINGS WHICH HE HIMSELF
IS DOING. THE CRIMINAL MIND RELENTLESSLY SEEKS TO DESTROY ANYONE IT
IMAGINES MIGHT EXPOSE IT. THE CRIMINAL ONLY SEES OTHERS AS HE HIMSELF
IS."
L. Ron Hubbard: "HONEST PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS, TOO."

http://www.thunderstar.net/~Schwarz/
(I am concerned about Dave Touretzky's activities.)

http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/

Read the pages on terrorist-friendly Andreas Heldal-Lund (arrested for
harassment):
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund/Lund04.html

The Chief Instigator

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R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:

>On 19 Mar 2006 11:18:31 -0600, <szkwteq...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>>we got no closer to your dump than Sealy

>Speaking of dumps:

I hope you've still got one left after the line of storms bashes through
Bellville in about four hours.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)

LAST GAME: San Antonio 1, Houston 0 (OT) (March 19)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, March 23 at Omaha, 7:05

The Chief Instigator

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Mar 20, 2006, 12:36:44 AM3/20/06

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R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:

>On 19 Mar 2006 11:42:37 -0600, <szkfyle...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>>>I have no problems with Scientologists and they have no problems with me
>>>even though I am not of their fold.

>>I guess that's why some a.r.s posters have gone to the trouble to tell you to
>>kindly quit abusing the newsgroup they're in.

>The only people who are complaining aren't the Scientologists but people such
>as you and Barwell who regularly bash Scientologists. Care to name one
>Scientologist who has asked me to leave?

Care to name one Scientologist who's asked an abusive Jew-hating spammer named
Robert Scott Bradbury to stay?

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)

Keith Henson

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Mar 20, 2006, 12:41:28 AM3/20/06

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On 19 Mar 2006 23:46:47 GMT, Herr Doktor Tavische
<Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:

>On 19 Mar 2006 11:42:37 -0600, <szkfyle...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>I have no problems with Scientologists and they have no problems with me even
>>>though I am not of their fold.
>>
>>I guess that's why some a.r.s posters have gone to the trouble to tell you to
>>kindly quit abusing the newsgroup they're in.
>
>The only people who are complaining aren't the Scientologists but people such as
>you and Barwell who regularly bash Scientologists. Care to name one
>Scientologist who has asked me to leave?

Just FYI, the a.r.s newsgroup is not for scientologists, at least
that's not the history of it. Those that do come here and stay for a
while very often quit. Sometimes like fluffy they are thrown out of
scientology for reading and posting here.

Scientology has spent a lot of money, at least half a million dollars,
trying to shut down a.r.s or lately to make it unreadable. (Look up
"sporgery")

I am not trying to get you to leave, just to understand the local
culture.

Keith Henson

The Chief Instigator

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Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:

>On 19 Mar 2006 11:32:48 -0600, <szkk6aq...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>>Then kindly shut the fuck up and have one of your caretakers try to teach you
>>how to filter your newsreader so you're not being forced at gunpoint to read
>>anything we post. (Or else Dale and I will just have to travel towards
>>Bellville again, tonight.)

>I don't take orders from nut cases. BTW subtle threat noted and logged.

We already headed in your direction, Baby Huey. It's not my fault your Nazi
obsession has made you too stupid to figure out what I've been doing to you
for years. By all means, just like Sara, take me to court. I categorically
refuse to be intimidated by IQ-65 Nazi fans such as you. End of story.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)

wbarwell

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Mar 20, 2006, 2:03:26 AM3/20/06

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Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:

>
>>>>>>Thank you
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny that you never tell Patrick Lee Humphrey what you tell me! Why
>>>>> is that? You two are flaming scientologists all the time (care to deny
>>>>> it?)
>>>
>>> Why did you cut this part out? Can't deal with the real issue?
>>>
>>
>>Its not an issue in ARS, idiot.
>>
>>Its off topic. You think he's an oaf?
>>Well, you are every bit an oaf youself.
>>The issue is, your stupid flame war,
>>crossposted to ARS is highly off topic.
>>Ask your ISP.
>>
>>Before I do.
>
> So now the troll and harasser of Scientologists has set himself up as a
> netcop and moderator!
>

Are you really this infantile?

Re: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away From
Donuts and ALL Sweets!

Not at all on topic. Why did you drag your personal flame wars here?

> <end>
>
> From: wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
> Subject: Re: ISAAC HAYES....WHAT A JOKE!
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:17:01 -0600
> Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
> Message-ID: <121lgpj...@corp.supernews.com>
>
> This reminds me of a hated phrase, "baby Christians".
> Used by some Christians of the fundy type. You start
> with fuzzy pink bunny Christianity of a vague sort as
> to not startle the "baby Christians" and you lead them
> up to things like the rapture and other goofy nonsense.
> There is a gradient to it all and they sell lots and
> lots of books teaching Christians how to reach people
> with arguments they hope will work.
>
> Scientology is simply a more intense version, baby
> Scientologists who don't need to know about Xenu or
> BTs just yet.
>

--

Zinj

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Mar 20, 2006, 2:04:32 AM3/20/06

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In article <121skfu...@corp.supernews.com>, wbar...@mylinuxisp.com
says...

> Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:
>
> >
> >>>>>>Thank you
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Funny that you never tell Patrick Lee Humphrey what you tell me! Why
> >>>>> is that? You two are flaming scientologists all the time (care to deny
> >>>>> it?)
> >>>
> >>> Why did you cut this part out? Can't deal with the real issue?
> >>>
> >>
> >>Its not an issue in ARS, idiot.
> >>
> >>Its off topic. You think he's an oaf?
> >>Well, you are every bit an oaf youself.
> >>The issue is, your stupid flame war,
> >>crossposted to ARS is highly off topic.
> >>Ask your ISP.
> >>
> >>Before I do.
> >
> > So now the troll and harasser of Scientologists has set himself up as a
> > netcop and moderator!
> >
>
> Are you really this infantile?
>
> Re: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away From
> Donuts and ALL Sweets!
>
>
> Not at all on topic. Why did you drag your personal flame wars here?

Religious Ritual a'la Scientology?

You should see the sacred 'Kali Ceremony'!

Zinj

--
Scientology is an 'Applied Religious Philosophy'
It's the 'application' that's objectionable.

Ben Cramer

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Mar 20, 2006, 5:22:43 AM3/20/06

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Are you ever going to grow up? You're worse than a mongrel dog.

"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkacbl...@fnord.io.com...

Steve Wolk

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Mar 20, 2006, 8:45:56 AM3/20/06

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"Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Are you ever going to grow up? You're worse than a mongrel dog.

Worse than you, dopey cunt? I think not.

Brimstone

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Humphrey needs to stop sexually stalking Tavish.

Herr Doktor Tavische

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Mar 20, 2006, 9:45:06 PM3/20/06

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On 19 Mar 2006 18:01:59 -0800,
<1142820119.5...@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Barbara Schwarz"
<barbara...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Herr Doktor Tavische schrieb:
>
>> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 06:51:20 -0600, <121qkgp...@corp.supernews.com>
>> wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
>
>William Barwell and Patrick Humphrey are awfully cozy. Do you have
>information on Barwell?

None other than your enemy and mine is trying to silence me. Funny how the real
Scientologists have no problems with me being in ARS but William C. Barwell is
making all sorts of threats such as getting my ISP to pull my plug!! I thought
those types believe in free speech! I guess Barwell is like Humphrey in that he
doesn't like for his hypocrisy to be pointed out.

Tavish

~~Proofs Patrick Humphrey and William Barwell = ARS Trolls and Flamers~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/30d3d0065a26f334?fwc=1

Subject: Re: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away From
Donuts and ALL Sweets!

Message-ID: <on2s121b980u2ne0n...@4ax.com>
Date: 20 Mar 2006 01:48:19 GMT
------------------------------
Their own posts prove they aren't the legitimate critics William C. Barwell
claims they are. They just like hurling insults and trying to intimidate their
opposition into silence.

Herr Doktor Tavische

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On 19 Mar 2006 11:42:37 -0600, <szkfyle...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>You're an arrogant IQ-65 mental case hiding in a dump

Speaking of dumps!!

>in Xxxxx, Xxxxxx - as has been documented.

Stop posting where I live you asshole!!

What another poster named James Roberts advised about Patrick's boorish behavior
of posting where people live --> http://tinyurl.com/dsns7

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/d6eba507c04a1912?dmode=source
(Archived locally as: RobertsOnPatrickPostingWhereILive)
Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-01!
sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail
From: James Roberts <jim...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Patrick Lee Humphrey is Amused by Tavish
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 19:15:23 -0500
Organization: none
Message-ID: <0q1rg0d2pr484vnov...@4ax.com>
Reply-To: jim...@yahoo.com
References: <9GYV2A2E3819...@anonymous.poster>
<i9lgg05mh6povlskh...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e08ca27ae483468
<szkisc7...@fnord.io.com>
<53jig09mae5na1ied...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/d4f04d1460e17efc
<szk1xiu...@fnord.io.com>
<hm4og01u3ku0v69ka...@4ax.com>
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On 31 Jul 2004 22:16:25 -0500, <szk8yczy2...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Lee
Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>Tavish <Doc_T...@Tavish-Central01.net> writes:
>
>>On 29 Jul 2004 23:09:52 -0500, <szk1xiu...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Lee
>>Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>Tavish <Doc_T...@Tavish-Central01.net> writes:
>
>>>>Headers to the post FORGED in my identity above.
>
>>>So you say -- what's YOUR word worth, these days?
>
>>Worth a lot more than yours you stupid big mouthed stalking bastard!
>
>Translation: you have nothing in response except to foam at the mouth, as
>usual. (Free clue: I'm still not a stalker, no matter how much you whine
>that I am. I'm stating the simple fact of the town you live in -- no more, no
>less. You have a lot less to worry about from me than you do from your
>neighbors, who have doubtless been annoyed by your fits more than once -- and
>you have far less to worry about from them than you do from the greatest
>threat to you...yourself. How many times have you broken a window lately?)
>
>>>>On 28 Jul 2004 20:43:40 -0500, <szkisc7...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Lee
>>>>Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>>The FORGERY referenced above.
>
>>>>>Tavish <Doc_T...@Tavish-Central01.net> writes:
>
>>>>>>On 28 Jul 2004 22:16:47 -0000, <9GYV2A2E3819...@anonymous.poster>
>>>>>>Scott Bradbury <Doc_T...@Tavish-Central01.net> wrote:
>
>>>>FORGED
>
>>>Repeating it doesn't make it any truer, Owned Bitch of
(You like posting where Bradbury lives so now I post where your father lives
with the advice people contact him to ask him why he raised you to be a
jerk. Anyone contacting Raymond please be nice and mind your manners. Don't
act like Patrick. Raymond A Humphrey, 279 Hemlock St Benham, KY 40807
Phone: 606-848-1200 or 606-848-1316).
>
>(Your insertion of text repaired.)
>
>>You are the "owned bitch" Patrick Lee Humphrey. I post on my own schedule BUT
>>you are compelled by your obsessive compulsive disorder with me to stalk me
>>and to personally attack me with almost each and every post I make-- so it is
>>YOU who is the "owned bitch!"
>
>Keep telling yourself that, OCD Boy of
(You like posting where Bradbury lives so now I post where your father lives
with the advice people contact him to ask him why he raised you to be a
jerk. Anyone contacting Raymond please be nice and mind your manners. Don't
act like Patrick. Raymond A Humphrey, 279 Hemlock St Benham, KY 40807
Phone: 606-848-1200 or 606-848-1316).
>It has about as much to do with reality as anything else you scream.
>
>>I post such gems as:
>
>(about 150 lines of certified Bradshit deleted)
>
>>All Patrick Lee Humphrey can do is to spend his free time monitoring me and
>>stalking me and making personal attack replies to my documented facts posts!
>
>So you say...I guess I'm just imagining spending about one-twelfth of this
>month pedaling. (None of it has been in
(You like posting where Bradbury lives so now I post where your father lives
with the advice people contact him to ask him why he raised you to be a
jerk. Anyone contacting Raymond please be nice and mind your manners. Don't
act like Patrick. Raymond A Humphrey, 279 Hemlock St Benham, KY 40807
Phone: 606-848-1200 or 606-848-1316) County.)
>
>>Here's looking at you stupid slave Patrick Lee Humphrey-- you owned bitch!
>
>Here's laughing at the Fat Fraud of
(You like posting where Bradbury lives so now I post where your father lives
with the advice people contact him to ask him why he raised you to be a
jerk. Anyone contacting Raymond please be nice and mind your manners. Don't
act like Patrick. Raymond A Humphrey, 279 Hemlock St Benham, KY 40807
Phone: 606-848-1200 or 606-848-1316).
>
>>>>>>FORGERY!!
>
>>>>>So you say, anyway.
>
>>>>It was and you know it. You losers have to invent stuff to smear people
>>>>over.
>
>>>Sorry, but I still have never used an anonymous remailer, and I'll testify to
>>>that under oath.
>
>>Two of your other accomplices testified under oath and their testimony was
>>manufactured or perjured!
>
>...according to you, who has never bothered to take *that* accusation to a
>court of law, for some pretty obvious reasons.
>
>(more of Bradburied's dementia tossed out withe the rest of the rubbish)
>
>>>That should tell you something, but you're too stupid to figure it out.
>
>>Funny how all you can do is hurl insults YET I provide actual proofs of what
>>you and your fellow scum do!
>
>Funny how none of your "proofs" would make it *into* a court of law.
>
>>>>>>Well at least I like women instead of being some cock sucking hook nosed
>>>>>>kike cock sucker like you!!
>
>>>>>It was posted through an anonymous server, so you're just indulging in your
>>>>>usual fantasy, aren't you?
>
>>>>Why would I post such stuff through an anonymizer and then add my name to
>>>>it!?
>
>>>Because you're malignantly stupid, why else? That's hardly a secret these
>>>days.
>
>>Personal attacks are all you have when I expose your team for what it is!
>>Your pal Yale made the same stupid accusation that I would post through an
>>anonymizer YET sign the post with my own name/nym and it is faultlessly
>>documented in the above included above titled: "Sara Salzman Won't Comment on
>>These Forgeries - I Wonder Why!"
>
>You're not talking to a team, Cowardly Nazi of
(You like posting where Bradbury lives so now I post where your father lives
with the advice people contact him to ask him why he raised you to be a
jerk. Anyone contacting Raymond please be nice and mind your manners. Don't
act like Patrick. Raymond A Humphrey, 279 Hemlock St Benham, KY 40807
Phone: 606-848-1200 or 606-848-1316).
>Get that fact through your morbidly obese head before you go on another of your
>psychotic fugues.
>
>>Just a very brief excerpt:
>
>Very brief, indeed, as in deleted completely -- another 300+ lines of it, as
>it's more of your canned ranting.
>
><= 259 days until I pedal through your neighborhood again, Busted Bully of
(You like posting where Bradbury lives so now I post where your father lives
with the advice people contact him to ask him why he raised you to be a
jerk. Anyone contacting Raymond please be nice and mind your manners. Don't
act like Patrick. Raymond A Humphrey, 279 Hemlock St Benham, KY 40807
Phone: 606-848-1200 or 606-848-1316).
<END OF WHAT JAMES ROBERTS ADVISED>

Herr Doktor Tavische

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On 19 Mar 2006 23:54:39 -0600, <szkacbl...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:
>
>>On 19 Mar 2006 11:32:48 -0600, <szkk6aq...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>Then kindly shut the fuck up and have one of your caretakers try to teach you
>>>how to filter your newsreader so you're not being forced at gunpoint to read
>>>anything we post. (Or else Dale and I will just have to travel towards
>>>Bellville again, tonight.)
>
>>I don't take orders from nut cases. BTW subtle threat noted and logged.
>
>We already headed in your direction, Baby Huey. It's not my fault your Nazi
>obsession has made you too stupid to figure out what I've been doing to you
>for years. By all means, just like Sara, take me to court. I categorically
>refuse to be intimidated by IQ-65 Nazi fans such as you. End of story.

Have you had another mis-dose of your medications?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/48f20bbf541f75f8?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Mental Problems May Be Due to His Type 1
Diabetes (Which Explains Why He Harasses People in alt.religion.scientology and
alt.revisionism)
Message-ID: <d5js125d058b7vah5...@4ax.com>
Date: 20 Mar 2006 06:57:18 GMT

Herr Doktor Tavische

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Thank you kind sir. I am not a Scientologist now and have never been nor will I
become one (for my own reasons) but I do have some things in common with some of
them such as my being stalked by some of the people who stalk them as well as
other people such as "pro-lifers" and "anti-communists" among others. All
Barwell and Humphrey do (Humphrey especially) is to spew vile bile and threaten
others to have their internet service cut off. That doesn't sound much like free
speech to me.

Tavish

>
>Keith Henson

wbarwell

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Mar 20, 2006, 11:05:43 PM3/20/06

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Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:

> On 19 Mar 2006 18:01:59 -0800,
> <1142820119.5...@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Barbara Schwarz"
> <barbara...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Herr Doktor Tavische schrieb:
>>
>>> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 06:51:20 -0600, <121qkgp...@corp.supernews.com>
>>> wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
>>
>>William Barwell and Patrick Humphrey are awfully cozy. Do you have
>>information on Barwell?
>
> None other than your enemy and mine is trying to silence me. Funny how the
> real Scientologists have no problems with me being in ARS but William C.
> Barwell is making all sorts of threats such as getting my ISP to pull my
> plug!! I thought those types believe in free speech! I guess Barwell is
> like Humphrey in that he doesn't like for his hypocrisy to be pointed out.
>

I am asking you to keep off topic posts, personal flame wars attacking
Humphery's wife, off of ARS, where its off topic.

The Chief Instigator

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Mar 21, 2006, 1:18:00 AM3/21/06

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"Brimstone" <captbr...@christian--nationalist.org> writes:

>Humphrey needs to stop sexually stalking Tavish.

Why should I stop something that I never started, little incompetent Nazi?

The Chief Instigator

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Mar 21, 2006, 1:29:39 AM3/21/06

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R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:

>On 19 Mar 2006 11:42:37 -0600, <szkfyle...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>>You're an arrogant IQ-65 mental case hiding in a dump

>Speaking of dumps!!

You live in one. QED.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)

Ben Cramer

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Mar 21, 2006, 1:48:42 AM3/21/06

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"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkk6ao...@fnord.io.com...

> "Brimstone" <captbr...@christian--nationalist.org> writes:
>
>>Humphrey needs to stop sexually stalking Tavish.
>
> Why should I stop something that I never started,

You lying cunt.

The Chief Instigator

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Mar 21, 2006, 1:57:35 AM3/21/06

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Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:

>On 19 Mar 2006 23:54:39 -0600, <szkacbl...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>>Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:

>>>On 19 Mar 2006 11:32:48 -0600, <szkk6aq...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>>>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>>>>Then kindly shut the fuck up and have one of your caretakers try to teach
>>>>you how to filter your newsreader so you're not being forced at gunpoint
>>>>to read anything we post. (Or else Dale and I will just have to travel
>>>>towards Bellville again, tonight.)

>>>I don't take orders from nut cases. BTW subtle threat noted and logged.

>>We already headed in your direction, Baby Huey. It's not my fault your Nazi
>>obsession has made you too stupid to figure out what I've been doing to you
>>for years. By all means, just like Sara, take me to court. I categorically
>>refuse to be intimidated by IQ-65 Nazi fans such as you. End of story.

>Have you had another mis-dose of your medications?

No, and you have nothing else to say about it. I simply refuse to be
intimidated by one cowardly circus freak named Robert Scott Bradbury. End of
story.

The Chief Instigator

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Mar 21, 2006, 2:01:02 AM3/21/06

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>You lying cunt.

Back to your sheep, Dopehead Benjie...

Ben Cramer

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"Steve Wolk" <Bar...@Seville.com> wrote in message
news:omyTf.8666$gD4.4090@trnddc05...

You certainly don't, wokkie.

>
>

Keith Henson

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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:16:53 -0600, Herr Doktor Tavische
<Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 05:41:28 GMT, <44393dcf....@news1.sympatico.ca>
>hkhe...@rogers.com (Keith Henson) wrote:
>

snip

>>I am not trying to get you to leave, just to understand the local
>>culture.
>
>Thank you kind sir. I am not a Scientologist now and have never been nor will I
>become one (for my own reasons) but I do have some things in common with some of
>them such as my being stalked by some of the people who stalk them as well as
>other people such as "pro-lifers" and "anti-communists" among others. All
>Barwell and Humphrey do (Humphrey especially) is to spew vile bile and threaten
>others to have their internet service cut off. That doesn't sound much like free
>speech to me.

I haven't been paying enough attention. I thought they were trying to
get an abusive illegal alien sent back to Germany where she would be
treated for her obvious mental illness.

BTW, if you want to experience being seriously stalked, try picketing
scientology's desert compound in California over the people they kill.
I did that back in 2000 and last year they put about the 20th stalker
on me. I still have a partly numb patch on my left leg from nerve
damage. Robert Del Bianco, a private investigator, hit me with his
minivan while stalking me.

I will dig up the URL for the newspaper story if you want.

Keith Henson

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Sara Salzman

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