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"The Thunder of a Thousand-fold 'Hurrah" (Jewish Communism Wishes to Destroy Christianity) V2.1 R_1206

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Doc Tavish

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"The Thunder of a Thousand-fold 'Hurrah'"

Za Vilnu Ukrainu,
#98(1415), August 11,1998
(December 2, 1998)

There's not any more proof necessary that the human-hating politics of
communism, forced by the Jews with the purpose of destroying Christianity in the
world and turning Christians into obedient slaves, was founded on a propitious
foundation in Moscow. The Muscovite psychology is absolutely like that of Judas,
who sold out his brother Joseph for 20 silver coins. Genocide, assimilation,
appropriation or destruction of the spiritual values of the nations and peoples
who found themselves in the hands of the Bolshevik Empire persist in the
priorities of state policies which are hidden behind the Pharisees' demagogic
mottoes in the name of the nation and its welfare.

I remember Professor Antonovych used to say: "There probably wasn't a single
ruler in the world's history who wouldn't have used such postulates."

In late December 1952, information about some illegal actions by Jewish doctors
in Moscow was published in the official Soviet press. In January 1953 news about
their criminal activity became known to the whole USSR. We returned home from
working in the camps. And here we hear the latest news, information about Jewish
doctors in the Kremlin. Everyone tried not to miss a single word. Then a lovely
discussion started

Suddenly Phima Oikhman interrupts everyone and says very surely: "Hey guys!
Remember? After the declaration of Israel as a Jewish state in 1948 one of the
first countries in the world that was visited by a delegation from Israel was
Moscow. How welcome they were is known to the whole world. And now they forget
who gave them power. You'll see. Not much time will pass, till everything is in
its place."

Union of Councils for Soviet Jews. UCSJ is a member of Shamash, the Jewish
Internet Consortium.

~~~~End of Article~~~~

Never ever forget the opening paragraph:

"There's not any more proof necessary that the human-hating politics of
communism, forced by the Jews with the purpose of destroying Christianity in the
world and turning Christians into obedient slaves, was founded on a propitious
foundation in Moscow. The Muscovite psychology is absolutely like that of Judas,
who sold out his brother Joseph for 20 silver coins. Genocide, assimilation,
appropriation or destruction of the spiritual values of the nations and peoples
who found themselves in the hands of th e Bolshevik Empire persist in the
priorities of state policies which are hidden behind the Pharisees' demagogic
mottoes in the name of the nation and its welfare." <END>

Regarding the statement made above: "After the declaration of Israel as a Jewish
state in 1948 one of the first countries [sic] in the world that was visited by
a delegation from Israel was Moscow." (I think the author meant "cities" instead
of countries seeing how Moscow is a city instead of a country!! Tavish) See
this:

http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=1g60hvoj0b21pn339...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Palestine was Changed to a Socialist Jewish State in 1948 by Ben-Gurion
with Communist Soviet Union's Support
Message-ID: <1g60hvoj0b21pn339...@4ax.com>
Date: 12 Jul 2003 14:16:47 GMT
What have I been trying to say for three years?

========OF INTEREST RELATING TO JEWS AND COMMUNISM=========

http://www.jewishamerica.com/ja/timeline/haskala.cfm
(Link active January 20, 2003)
"A lot of Haskala Jews are ready to give up on Russia. Many channel their
energy into creating a home land of their own. Some Haskala Jews turn to
political revolution. The Russian Revolution of the early 20th century will
overthrow the Czarist government and it will be led by a disproportionate
number of Jews. "

The same text is mirrored at this Jewish web site as well:
http://www.yahrzeit.org/text_link/temple_text4/textpage119.htm

http://www.jewishamerica.com/ja/timeline/desteeur.cfm
"A disproportionate number within the revolutionary movements are Jewish...
Russian Revolutionary movement and it finally succeeds in overthrowing the Czar.
However, it subsequently brings the country into a bitter civil war. The
Communists emerge victorious. Within their ranks are a disproportionate number
of Jews..."

<<The above is from Jewish web sites and they are brave enough to tell truths
many Jews don't want to face. Germans will admit Nazism sprang from among
themselves BUT how many Jews will admit the forefathers and leaders of the
Bolshevik Revolution were primarily Jews? Tavish>>

============================================================

http://www.adl.org/presrele/ASInt_13/2966_13.asp
(Link active January 21, 2003)
Press Release Anti-Semitism-International
"...The collapse of communism has brought rapid, often radical change
throughout Central and Eastern Europe and poses a growing threat to the
security of the reemerging Jewish communities in the region," said
Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director." <END>

What is Abe Foxman suggesting? Is he suggesting communism was a guardian
of Jews?

Another "confession" from ADL indicating Communism protected Jews:

http://www.adl.org/anti_semitism/russia_politics.asp
(Link active January 21, 2003)
"Anti-Semitism in Political Life

In recent years anti-Semitism has become an obvious weapon in the political life
of Russia.

The fact is that anti-Semitism remains an underlying theme in many major
political and public debates in Russia.

Anti-Semitism is so ingrained in public discourse that many Russians are not
even able to recognize anti-Jewish bias

One example is the standoff between President Putin and the oligarchs. While the
public largely welcomes Putin’s battle against the business moguls, some sectors
of the population make no clear distinction between the class of rich and
influential tycoons and the Jewish people in general. Broad public approval of
the government’s actions against the oligarchs, who many see as exploiting the
Russian people, coincides with an undercurrent of resentment against Jews in
powerful positions that has become widespread in Russia since the collapse of
Communism in 1991..."

The bottom line is: "..resentment against Jews in powerful positions that has
become widespread in Russia since the collapse of Communism in 1991.."

Looks to me as if the ADL is saying Jews did better under communism and as the
snippets above show concerning Jewish involvement in the Bolshevik Revolution
then it is easy to see why-- the Jews were the masters.

Here is B'nai Brith making a shocking revelation:

www.bnaibrith.org/randa/unesco3.html
(Link was active December 2001. Now expired)
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/lillithsrealm/myhomepage/Humanity/HumanRights/Genocide/CounteringAntisemitism.htm
(Link active 12-11-2002 and the "unesco.html" web page was cached at this
site.)

Excerpt: "MEASURES AND INITIATIVES TAKEN TO COMBAT ANTISEMITISM, 1991 - '94
Introduction. Antisemitism - World Trends, 1991 - '94
The period of 1991-'94 was marked by a rise in expressions of antisemitism,
resulting mainly from the collapse of the communist block in Europe and the
reunification of Germany."

The original link above came from a GOOGLE search as detailed in this link:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=tbdc1u0ikubfkl0qp77dn140tqhoim43h6%404ax.com&rnum=1
Message-ID: <tbdc1u0ikubfkl0qp...@4ax.com>

Need I say more?

Tavish

---
"I do not deny that Jews were involved in establishing the Communist regime...
Jews are taught to uphold the downtrodden, and that's how communism came about."
Susan Cohen 01/19/2001
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=hqrh6tgi85n5s5610q2rt9nji2tpmsnhho%404ax.com&rnum=3&filter=0
Message-ID: <hqrh6tgi85n5s5610...@4ax.com>
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Chris C. Larson

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Doc Tavish <Doc_T...@TAVISH-AMERICAN-CENTRAL.NET> wrote in message news:<i5a4tv45g3rt6vhol...@4ax.com>...

> http://www.shamash.org/ucsj/stories/ukrnews081198.shtml
> (Link active July 17, 2003. Archived locally as: ukrnews081198)
>
> "The Thunder of a Thousand-fold 'Hurrah'"
>
> Za Vilnu Ukrainu,
> #98(1415), August 11,1998
> (December 2, 1998)
>
Dated drivel snipped....

Tavish, why do you hate Christianity so bad? Is it because that
Christianity shares the Old Testament with the Jews. (ouch) In fact
the Torah (the Jews holiest book), is the Old Testament in Hebrew.
Those of us that are true Christians (the 99.9% of the Christian
population) will go on believing true Christianity. The others like
Tavish (the .0001% of you) follow the invented, racist antichrist
brand of Christianity (the Jews killed Jesus, the Old Testament does
not apply to us,etc). This is the brand of Christianity where you can
become ordanined via mail order and $100.

By the way Mr. Tavish, (the flaming antichrist), when are you going to
name just one U.S. Jew, who is a member of the Communist party. And
don't forget, Mr. Tavish (AKA Mr. I'll spend my entire life in front
of my computer reposting the same shit day after day over and over and
over and over and over again), when are you going to tell the 2 Jewish
gents that I often hunt with that Jews are for gun control? And guess
how many NRA state chairs are Jewish? I'll give you a hint- it's more
than 4 and less than 6. Sorry cupcake, gotta go, I've got more to my
life that 23 1/2 hours a day of reposting old shit and blesing it as
"classic reposts". Oh and Merry Christmas, should you happen to
convert to real Christianity.

Yitzchak Goodman

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>
> "The Thunder of a Thousand-fold 'Hurrah'"

Stalin's Seminary Training

Begin quote]

[Stalin] graduated with honors from the church school and in
1894 entered the Tiflis seminary. In both institutions obscurantism,
hypocrisy, constant petty supervision, and a system of informing
prevailed. The rules were very strict, with virtually military
discipline
being enforced. It is not surprising that the seminaries of Russia
produced revolutionaries as well as loyal servants of the church and
government . . .
The Tiflis seminary gave Russia not only Stalin, but such prominent
revolutionaries as Mikha Tskhakaya, Noi Zhordania, Lado Ketskhoveli,
Sylvester
Dzhibladze, Nikolai Chkheidze, and Filipp Makharadze. The seminary in
Armenia
produced just as many important revolutionaries.

[end quote]

Roy Medvedev. Let History Judge: The Origins and Consequences of
Stalinism.
Ed. and translated by George Shriver. New York: Columbia University
Press,
1989, p. 28.

Doc Tavish

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larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson) wrote:

>Doc Tavish <Doc_T...@TAVISH-AMERICAN-CENTRAL.NET> wrote in message news:<i5a4tv45g3rt6vhol...@4ax.com>...
>> http://www.shamash.org/ucsj/stories/ukrnews081198.shtml
>> (Link active July 17, 2003. Archived locally as: ukrnews081198)
>>
>> "The Thunder of a Thousand-fold 'Hurrah'"
>>
>> Za Vilnu Ukrainu,
>> #98(1415), August 11,1998
>> (December 2, 1998)
>>
>Dated drivel snipped....

Restored for the sake for the archives:

http://www.shamash.org/ucsj/stories/ukrnews081198.shtml
(Link active July 17, 2003. Archived locally as: ukrnews081198)

"The Thunder of a Thousand-fold 'Hurrah'"

Za Vilnu Ukrainu,
#98(1415), August 11,1998
(December 2, 1998)

============================================================

Need I say more?

Tavish

>Tavish, why do you hate Christianity so bad? Is it because that


>Christianity shares the Old Testament with the Jews. (ouch)

True Christianity which the 1st Century Christina practice obeyed and adhered to
the New Testament/New Covenant and they totally abandoned the Old Testament/Old
Covenant aka THE LAW and the Apostle Paul admonished many 1st Century Christians
for wanting to return to THE LAW!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2fttrvo00fhaoi2f8ip%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Old Covenant Vs New -- New Covenant Replaces Old Covenant (Jews NO
Longer God's Chosen People & Entitled to "Israel" So Says the Scripture!)
Message-ID: <qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2f...@4ax.com>

For a fact the New Testament completely NULLS the Old Testament!

>In fact the Torah (the Jews holiest book), is the Old Testament in Hebrew.
>Those of us that are true Christians (the 99.9% of the Christian
>population) will go on believing true Christianity.

True Christianity, such as 1st Century Christianity, did not adhere to an Old
Testament which God totally replaced with a New Testament and only those who
accepted their thirty pieces of silver from the Children of the Devil teach
otherwise!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
Message-ID: <vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=1ioifv01joma9fjqpa361host2smg0un2n%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
(Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
Message-ID: <1ioifv01joma9fjqp...@4ax.com>

>The others like Tavish (the .0001% of you) follow

Ever heard of the narrow road versus the broad and spacious road?

>the invented, racist antichrist

The Jews you adore are the anti-Christs!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
Message-ID: <vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT

>brand of Christianity (the Jews killed Jesus,

Jews did in fact kill Jesus!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=m1p5nv4es86j78p5dr5pe41l8pi3vfcst0%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives &
Research) V2.5 R_0925
Message-ID: <m1p5nv4es86j78p5d...@4ax.com>
Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:49 GMT

>the Old Testament does not apply to us,etc).

The Old Testament des NOT apply to Christians and the 1st Century Christians
totally abandoned it for the New Testament!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2fttrvo00fhaoi2f8ip%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Old Covenant Vs New -- New Covenant Replaces Old Covenant (Jews NO
Longer God's Chosen People & Entitled to "Israel" So Says the Scripture!)
Message-ID: <qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2f...@4ax.com>

>This is the brand of Christianity where you can become ordanined via mail
>order and $100.

Who ordained the 1st Century Christians?

>By the way Mr. Tavish, (the flaming antichrist), when are you going to
>name just one U.S. Jew, who is a member of the Communist party.

When are you going to stop denying communism was conceived and implemented by
Jews?

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=nl1frv82na4v5hh5j0dcvjojupfoqcbmkh%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Jews Linked to Bolshevism (United States Library of Congress & Other
Sources) V2.0 Message-ID: <nl1frv82na4v5hh5j...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=uscefvgfqpvt2cs8l...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Forefathers of the Soviet State (Short Compilation) R_0623
Message-ID: <uscefvgfqpvt2cs8l...@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Jun 2003 16:58:25 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=94sdrvkdh1gk4spggrj3hgosovf9sc609p%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Post-Soviet Religion (What Communists did to Christians) Newly
Expanded 09-21-2003 Message-ID: <94sdrvkdh1gk4spgg...@4ax.com>

>And don't forget, Mr. Tavish (AKA Mr. I'll spend my entire life in front
>of my computer reposting the same shit day after day over and over and
>over and over and over again), when are you going to tell the 2 Jewish
>gents that I often hunt with that Jews are for gun control?

Most are!

>And guess how many NRA state chairs are Jewish? I'll give you a hint- it's more
>than 4 and less than 6. Sorry cupcake, gotta go, I've got more to my
>life that 23 1/2 hours a day of reposting old shit and blesing it as
>"classic reposts". Oh and Merry Christmas, should you happen to
>convert to real Christianity.

Tavish

Ed Asner=Jew & Stalin Admirer
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100137,00.html
(Link active November 3, 2003. Archived locally: ASSner_stalin)
Wednesday October 25, 2003
by Brit Hume
FOX NEWS
A Stalin Admirer?
Actor Ed Asner [was] asked to choose the historical figure he respected
most and would like to play some day responded, "My answer would have to be Joe
Stalin ... I think Joe Stalin was a guy that was hugely misunderstood."
Asner did not say what it was about the Soviet dictator, under whom
millions more died than in Hitler's Holocaust, that was misunderstood. <END>
http://www.horizonmag.com/1/asner.htm
(Link active November 4, 2003. Archived locally as: commie_jew_ASSner)
"...[Ed] Asner was raised in a traditional Orthodox Jewish family... <END>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"For pure murderous evil, there has never been a force to compare with
Communism. The Nazis didn't come close. The Holocaust was uniquely
malignant - never before or since did one people construct a vast industry
of death for the sole purpose of rounding up and destroying every single member
of another people. But the Nazis exterminated 11 million innocents; the
Communist death toll surpasses 100 million."
TO THE VICTIMS OF COMMUNISM, LEST WE FORGET
By Jeff Jacoby
The Boston Globe
December 7, 1995
http://www.physics.ncat.edu/~michael/vses/eth4000/victim.html
(Link active June 22, 2003. Archived locally as: eth4000_victim)
See the entire contents the above was excerpted from with his link:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=jrqdrvs5ap8db078d0vhtvik326q56s621%404ax.com&rnum=7
Subject: Comrade Ed Asner on Comrade Joseph Stalin (He's a Jew and a Member of
the Democratic Socialists of America!!) V2.1 R_1115
Message-ID: <jrqdrvs5ap8db078d...@4ax.com>
Must see archives which prove the Bolsheviks were led by Jews in their
slaughter of Christians:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=nl1frv82na4v5hh5j0dcvjojupfoqcbmkh%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Jews Linked to Bolshevism (United States Library of Congress & Other
Sources) V2.0 Message-ID: <nl1frv82na4v5hh5j...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=94sdrvkdh1gk4spggrj3hgosovf9sc609p%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Post-Soviet Religion (What Communists did to Christians) Newly
Expanded 09-21-2003 Message-ID: <94sdrvkdh1gk4spgg...@4ax.com>

---
"I do not deny that Jews were involved in establishing the Communist regime..

[A]s you are doubtless too stupid to realize, communism in its pure form is
not the evil that Stalin and his successors made it. Jews are taught to uphold


the downtrodden, and that's how communism came about." Susan Cohen

January 19, 2001 (Susan is saying communism was GOOD before Stalin!)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3A68592E.13488F20%40his.com&rnum=9
Message-ID: <3A68592E...@his.com>
"I have always said that Jews were involved with the origins of Russian
communism. And I have also always said that by the time Communism got
repressive and evil..." Susan Cohen
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3A6D1630.311E77C4%40his.com&rnum=1
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 00:27:14 -0500
From: Susan Cohen <fla...@his.com>
Subject: Re: Scotty Makes Susan Cohen's Points for her WAS (nonsense drooled
by Scotty Bradbury)
Message-ID: <3A6D1630...@his.com>
<<But Susan-- communism was repressive and evil from the beginning!>>

Chris C. Larson

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Doc Tavish <Doc_T...@TAVISH-AMERICAN-CENTRAL.NET> wrote in message news:<vaa6tv4vsot465jnr...@4ax.com>...

> On 6 Dec 2003 17:59:48 -0800, <6b3bfd67.03120...@posting.google.com>
> larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson) wrote:
>
> >Doc Tavish <Doc_T...@TAVISH-AMERICAN-CENTRAL.NET> wrote in message news:<i5a4tv45g3rt6vhol...@4ax.com>...
> >> http://www.shamash.org/ucsj/stories/ukrnews081198.shtml
> >> (Link active July 17, 2003. Archived locally as: ukrnews081198)
> >>
> >> "The Thunder of a Thousand-fold 'Hurrah'"
> >>
> >> Za Vilnu Ukrainu,
> >> #98(1415), August 11,1998
> >> (December 2, 1998)
> >>
> >Dated drivel snipped....
>
> Restored for the sake for the archives:

for that line, I could just say "I rest my case"!

>
>
> >Tavish, why do you hate Christianity so bad? Is it because that
> >Christianity shares the Old Testament with the Jews. (ouch)
>
> True Christianity which the 1st Century Christina practice obeyed and adhered to
> the New Testament/New Covenant and they totally abandoned the Old Testament/Old
> Covenant aka THE LAW and the Apostle Paul admonished many 1st Century Christians
> for wanting to return to THE LAW!

Ever heard of the Ten Commandments?



> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2fttrvo00fhaoi2f8ip%404ax.com&rnum=1
> Subject: Old Covenant Vs New -- New Covenant Replaces Old Covenant (Jews NO
> Longer God's Chosen People & Entitled to "Israel" So Says the Scripture!)
> Message-ID: <qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2f...@4ax.com>
>
> For a fact the New Testament completely NULLS the Old Testament!

Your fact, not reality



> >In fact the Torah (the Jews holiest book), is the Old Testament in Hebrew.
> >Those of us that are true Christians (the 99.9% of the Christian
> >population) will go on believing true Christianity.
>
> True Christianity, such as 1st Century Christianity, did not adhere to an Old
> Testament which God totally replaced with a New Testament and only those who
> accepted their thirty pieces of silver from the Children of the Devil teach
> otherwise!

Scott, as THE antichrist, do not even try to understand Christianity.
You are getting delusional here. C'mon, you can do better.


>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls%404ax.com&rnum=1
> Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
> Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
> Message-ID: <vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3...@4ax.com>
> Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=1ioifv01joma9fjqpa361host2smg0un2n%404ax.com&rnum=2
> Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
> (Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
> Message-ID: <1ioifv01joma9fjqp...@4ax.com>
>
> >The others like Tavish (the .0001% of you) follow
>
> Ever heard of the narrow road versus the broad and spacious road?
>
> >the invented, racist antichrist
>
> The Jews you adore are the anti-Christs!

When you begin to study Christianity, you will find that the
Antichrist concept is singular, which is you. This in not a topic for
discussion, you ARE THE antichrist. Accept it.

> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls%404ax.com&rnum=1
> Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
> Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
> Message-ID: <vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3...@4ax.com>
> Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT
>
> >brand of Christianity (the Jews killed Jesus,
>
> Jews did in fact kill Jesus!

Oh really, were you there?

> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=m1p5nv4es86j78p5dr5pe41l8pi3vfcst0%404ax.com&rnum=1
> Subject: UPDATED The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives &
> Research) V2.5 R_0925
> Message-ID: <m1p5nv4es86j78p5d...@4ax.com>
> Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:49 GMT
>
> >the Old Testament does not apply to us,etc).
>
> The Old Testament des NOT apply to Christians and the 1st Century Christians
> totally abandoned it for the New Testament!

Yup, this is the drivel that was twisted begining in the late 1860's.


> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2fttrvo00fhaoi2f8ip%404ax.com&rnum=1
> Subject: Old Covenant Vs New -- New Covenant Replaces Old Covenant (Jews NO
> Longer God's Chosen People & Entitled to "Israel" So Says the Scripture!)
> Message-ID: <qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2f...@4ax.com>
>
> >This is the brand of Christianity where you can become ordanined via mail
> >order and $100.
>
> Who ordained the 1st Century Christians?

Your knowledge of Christianity is truly a laughingstock. But then
again, you are someone who wears the same pants as a liberal (whine,
do nothing and pretend that you know what you are talking about).

> >By the way Mr. Tavish, (the flaming antichrist), when are you going to
> >name just one U.S. Jew, who is a member of the Communist party.
>
> When are you going to stop denying communism was conceived and implemented by
> Jews?

Again, "I rest my case" as you cannot meet my challenge (again)



> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=nl1frv82na4v5hh5j0dcvjojupfoqcbmkh%404ax.com&rnum=1
> Subject: Jews Linked to Bolshevism (United States Library of Congress & Other
> Sources) V2.0 Message-ID: <nl1frv82na4v5hh5j...@4ax.com>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=uscefvgfqpvt2cs8l...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
> Subject: Forefathers of the Soviet State (Short Compilation) R_0623
> Message-ID: <uscefvgfqpvt2cs8l...@4ax.com>
> Date: 23 Jun 2003 16:58:25 GMT
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=94sdrvkdh1gk4spggrj3hgosovf9sc609p%404ax.com&rnum=1
> Subject: Post-Soviet Religion (What Communists did to Christians) Newly
> Expanded 09-21-2003 Message-ID: <94sdrvkdh1gk4spgg...@4ax.com>
>
> >And don't forget, Mr. Tavish (AKA Mr. I'll spend my entire life in front
> >of my computer reposting the same shit day after day over and over and
> >over and over and over again), when are you going to tell the 2 Jewish
> >gents that I often hunt with that Jews are for gun control?
>
> Most are!
>
> >And guess how many NRA state chairs are Jewish? I'll give you a hint- it's more
> >than 4 and less than 6. Sorry cupcake, gotta go, I've got more to my
> >life that 23 1/2 hours a day of reposting old shit and blesing it as
> >"classic reposts". Oh and Merry Christmas, should you happen to
> >convert to real Christianity.
>
> Tavish

See if you can respond without a repost. Hard working people can, but
liberals and the white aryan racists take shortcuts, which include cut
and paste. Why? Because it's easier.

Doc Tavish

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larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson) wrote:

>From: larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson)
>Subject: It's Official---Tavish is THE Antichrist

Can't refute me so you make personal attacks-- how Pharisee of you!

>Doc Tavish <Doc_T...@TAVISH-AMERICAN-CENTRAL.NET> wrote in message news:<vaa6tv4vsot465jnr...@4ax.com>...
>> On 6 Dec 2003 17:59:48 -0800, <6b3bfd67.03120...@posting.google.com>
>> larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson) wrote:
>>
>> >Doc Tavish <Doc_T...@TAVISH-AMERICAN-CENTRAL.NET> wrote in message news:<i5a4tv45g3rt6vhol...@4ax.com>...
>> >> http://www.shamash.org/ucsj/stories/ukrnews081198.shtml
>> >> (Link active July 17, 2003. Archived locally as: ukrnews081198)
>> >>
>> >> "The Thunder of a Thousand-fold 'Hurrah'"
>> >>
>> >> Za Vilnu Ukrainu,
>> >> #98(1415), August 11,1998
>> >> (December 2, 1998)
>> >>
>> >Dated drivel snipped....
>>
>> Restored for the sake for the archives:
>
>for that line, I could just say "I rest my case"!

Why do you keep deleting what I post and then attacking me instead of refuting
my post's content?

Once again:

http://www.shamash.org/ucsj/stories/ukrnews081198.shtml
(Link active July 17, 2003. Archived locally as: ukrnews081198)

"The Thunder of a Thousand-fold 'Hurrah'"

Za Vilnu Ukrainu,
#98(1415), August 11,1998
(December 2, 1998)

============================================================

"I do not deny that Jews were involved in establishing the Communist regime...

>> >Tavish, why do you hate Christianity so bad? Is it because that


>> >Christianity shares the Old Testament with the Jews. (ouch)
>>
>> True Christianity which the 1st Century Christina practice obeyed and adhered to
>> the New Testament/New Covenant and they totally abandoned the Old Testament/Old
>> Covenant aka THE LAW and the Apostle Paul admonished many 1st Century Christians
>> for wanting to return to THE LAW!
>
>Ever heard of the Ten Commandments?

First Century Christians were released from The Law and its Ten Commandments as
the archive I provided proved scripturally- which you chose to ignore!

>> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2fttrvo00fhaoi2f8ip%404ax.com&rnum=1
>> Subject: Old Covenant Vs New -- New Covenant Replaces Old Covenant (Jews NO
>> Longer God's Chosen People & Entitled to "Israel" So Says the Scripture!)
>> Message-ID: <qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2f...@4ax.com>
>>
>> For a fact the New Testament completely NULLS the Old Testament!
>
>Your fact, not reality

What the Bible plainly states and what anyone who reads it can plainly see! You
choose to remain obstinate and ignorant as well!

>> >In fact the Torah (the Jews holiest book), is the Old Testament in Hebrew.
>> >Those of us that are true Christians (the 99.9% of the Christian
>> >population) will go on believing true Christianity.
>>
>> True Christianity, such as 1st Century Christianity, did not adhere to an Old
>> Testament which God totally replaced with a New Testament and only those who
>> accepted their thirty pieces of silver from the Children of the Devil teach
>> otherwise!
>
>Scott, as THE antichrist, do not even try to understand Christianity.
>You are getting delusional here. C'mon, you can do better.

I am not The antichrist YET you are the one who embraces the original
anti-Christs which have already been identified.



>> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls%404ax.com&rnum=1
>> Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
>> Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
>> Message-ID: <vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3...@4ax.com>
>> Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=1ioifv01joma9fjqpa361host2smg0un2n%404ax.com&rnum=2
>> Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
>> (Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
>> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
>> Message-ID: <1ioifv01joma9fjqp...@4ax.com>
>>
>> >The others like Tavish (the .0001% of you) follow
>>
>> Ever heard of the narrow road versus the broad and spacious road?
>>
>> >the invented, racist antichrist
>>
>> The Jews you adore are the anti-Christs!
>
>When you begin to study Christianity, you will find that the
>Antichrist concept is singular, which is you.

You know nothing of the Bible and anti-Christs are many!

I.E.

1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard
that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists."

AND DON'T FORGET-- YOUR JEWS ALSO DENY JESUS IS THE MESSIAH WHICH PLAINLY IS
WHAT MAKES THEM ANTI-CHRISTS WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN AS A WHOLE SINCE THE 1st
CENTURY!!

1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is
the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those who are trying to
mislead you!"

1 John 4: 2,3 "You gain knowledge of the inspired expression from God by this:
Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in the
flesh originates with God, but every inspired expression that does not confess
Jesus does not originate with God, Furthermore this is the antichrist's inspired
expression which you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world."

2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not
confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never
receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a
greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."

That last sentence which says: "For he that says a greeting to him is a sharer
in his wicked works." is pretty strong advice!

CHRIS LARSON NEEDS TO HEED THE ADVICE ABOVE AND HE SHOULD STEER CLEAR OF THE
FALSE TEACHERS WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF JUDAS BY ACCEPTING THEIR
THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER FROM THE PHARISEES TO BETRAY JESUS!!!!!

<<Special Note: The scriptures apply to Jews regarding the Messiah/Christ seeing
how it was the scriptural prophecy the Messiah/Christ was coming to Jews and
them alone. No other group of people had aspirations or were waiting for the
Messiah/Christ-- only Jews were given the initial promise so the "anti-Christs"
was referenced to them and no one else! Of course a Gentile today can be against
Christ and Christianity such as communists and the Judases who have received
their "thirty pieces of silver" from the Neo-Pharisees today BUT the scriptural
admonition of John references "antiChrists" as being Pharisees/Jews. Any
"minister" who teaches Anti-Christ is some single person who appears in the
future is a liar and he teaches in opposition to what the scripture above
teaches.>>

Christ=Messiah:

John 9:21-23 :: New International Version (NIV)
21 But how he can see now, or who opened his eyes, we don't know. Ask him. He is
of age; he will speak for himself."
22 His parents said this because they were afraid of the Jews, for already the
Jews had decided that anyone who acknowledged that Jesus was the Christ[1] would
be put out of the synagogue. 23That was why his parents said, "He is of age; ask
him."
Footnotes
9:22 Or Messiah

Matthew 1:16-18 :: New International Version (NIV)
16 and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus,
who is called Christ.
17 Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen
from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the
Christ.[1]
18 This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about: His mother Mary was pledged
to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be with
child through the Holy Spirit.
Footnotes
1:17 Or Messiah. "The Christ" (Greek) and "the Messiah" (Hebrew) both mean "the
Anointed One."

John 4:24-26 :: New King James Version (NKJV)
24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
25 The woman said to Him, "I know that Messiah is coming" (who is called
Christ). "When He comes, He will tell us all things."
26 Jesus said to her, "I who speak to you am He."

>This in not a topic for discussion, you ARE THE antichrist. Accept it.

YOU'RE WILLFULLY IGNORANT AND YOU ARE A LIAR WHICH MAKES YOU WICKED!

>> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls%404ax.com&rnum=1
>> Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
>> Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
>> Message-ID: <vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3...@4ax.com>
>> Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT
>>
>> >brand of Christianity (the Jews killed Jesus,
>>
>> Jews did in fact kill Jesus!
>
>Oh really, were you there?

Didn't have to be there you wicked one! I know what the Bible says-- the same
Bible you choose to ignore! You ignored the content of the archive I posted
below!

>> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=m1p5nv4es86j78p5dr5pe41l8pi3vfcst0%404ax.com&rnum=1
>> Subject: UPDATED The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives &
>> Research) V2.5 R_0925
>> Message-ID: <m1p5nv4es86j78p5d...@4ax.com>
>> Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:49 GMT

AND also don't overlook this:

The Apostle Peter testifies: "Men of Israel.. The God of Abraham and of Isaac
and Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified his Servant, Jesus, whom
YOU, for your part, delivered and disowned before Pilate's face, when he had
decided to release him. Yes, YOU disowned that holy and righteous one, and YOU
asked for a man, a murderer, to be freely granted to YOU, whereas YOU killed the
Chief Agent of life. But God raised him up from the dead..." Acts 3: 12-15

Disciple Stephen testifies: "Which one of the prophets did your forefathers not
persecute? Yes, they killed those who made announcement in advance concerning
the coming of the righteous One, whose betrayers and murderers YOU have become."
Acts 7: 52 This was from the speech Stephen gave the Jews about all of their
transgressions just before he (Stephen) got stoned to death by Jews who could
not contradict what he was telling them. Jews have quite a Biblical record as
killing people or having them harassed by government when their sins, hypocrisy,
and evil are held up to their faces!

I.E.

Acts 6:8-12 (English-KJV)
8 And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles
among the people.
9 Then there arose certain of the synagogue, which is called the synagogue
of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia
and of Asia, disputing with Stephen.
10 And they were not able to resist the wisdom and the spirit by which he
spake.
11 Then they suborned men, which said, We have heard him speak
blasphemous words against Moses, and against God.
12 And they stirred up the people, and the elders, and the scribes, and
came upon him, and caught him, and brought him to the council...

Acts 7:1, 51-58 (English-KJV)
1 Then said the high priest, Are these things so?

(History of Jews transgressions against G-d deleted for brevity. Tavish)

51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist
the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have
slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye
have been now the betrayers and murderers:
53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not
kept it.
54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and
they gnashed on him with their teeth.
55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven,
and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on
the right hand of God.
57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran
upon him with one accord,
58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him:....

From the above passages we learn:
a) [T]here arose certain of the synagogue, which is called the synagogue
of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia
and of Asia, disputing with Stephen
b) Stephen "spoke things they couldn't refute" as recorded with the words:
"they were not able to resist the wisdom.."
c) The Pharisees then: "stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one
accord, And cast him out of the city, and stoned him...."
d) Stephen blamed the Pharisaic Jews of the synagogue for the death of Jesus.

The Apostle Paul says much about Pharisaic Jews in two Bible scriptures:
1 Thessalonians 2:14,15 (English-NIV):
14 For you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea,
which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the
same things those churches suffered from the Jews,
15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out.
They displease God and are hostile to all men.

Notice the fine points made by the Apostle Paul in just
two verses of scripture!
He brought out in just two verses:
1) "those churches suffered from the Jews" Those sweet harmless
little Jews were committing "hate crimes" against Christians!
2) "the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus" The Apostle Paul was not the least bit
bashful about telling people "who killed the Lord Jesus" which the Churches of
Christendom won't do!
3) "They displease God.." The Temple is still in ruins as a testament
to that fact! Undeniable wouldn't you say? And last BUT certainly not
least by any stretch of the imagination:
4) "They (Jews) are hostile to all men."
Regarding "2) "the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus" The Apostle Paul was
not the least bit bashful about telling people "who killed the Lord Jesus"
which the Churches of Christendom won't do!" see this archive:


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Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:49 GMT

I might as well throw this in seeing how I mentioned "Hate Crimes."
Historically, who do most people think were more brutal- Nazis or
Pharisees?

(One example) Persecution and torture:
Matthew 23:34 (English-RSV)
[Jesus warned] "Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of
whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will scourge in your synagogues and
persecute from town to town...." [Tavish comment: The words just stated were
addressed to the Jewish Pharisee Rabbis!]

[To scourge means to lash or whip severely. Imagine Jews chasing people from
town to town and flogging them in their Jewish synagogues! I don't think even
the Nazis rounded up Jews and flogged them in Christian Churches!! What Jews
did happened and it is documented in the Bible for all to see! Tavish]
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>> >the Old Testament does not apply to us,etc).
>>
>> The Old Testament des NOT apply to Christians and the 1st Century Christians
>> totally abandoned it for the New Testament!
>
>Yup, this is the drivel that was twisted begining in the late 1860's.

All you do is make personal attacks and give your ill informed opinions YET you
ignore what the scripture plainly states as was shown in the archive below which
you chose to ignore!



>> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2fttrvo00fhaoi2f8ip%404ax.com&rnum=1
>> Subject: Old Covenant Vs New -- New Covenant Replaces Old Covenant (Jews NO
>> Longer God's Chosen People & Entitled to "Israel" So Says the Scripture!)
>> Message-ID: <qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2f...@4ax.com>
>>
>> >This is the brand of Christianity where you can become ordanined via mail
>> >order and $100.
>>
>> Who ordained the 1st Century Christians?
>
>Your knowledge of Christianity is truly a laughingstock. But then
>again, you are someone who wears the same pants as a liberal (whine,
>do nothing and pretend that you know what you are talking about).

I have shown my proofs and provided ALL scripture to prove my point whereas all
you have done is to run your ignorant mouth!

>> >By the way Mr. Tavish, (the flaming antichrist), when are you going to
>> >name just one U.S. Jew, who is a member of the Communist party.
>>
>> When are you going to stop denying communism was conceived and implemented by
>> Jews?
>
>Again, "I rest my case" as you cannot meet my challenge (again)

What challenge? All you did is run you mouth and throw insults.

>> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=nl1frv82na4v5hh5j0dcvjojupfoqcbmkh%404ax.com&rnum=1
>> Subject: Jews Linked to Bolshevism (United States Library of Congress & Other
>> Sources) V2.0 Message-ID: <nl1frv82na4v5hh5j...@4ax.com>
>> http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=uscefvgfqpvt2cs8l...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
>> Subject: Forefathers of the Soviet State (Short Compilation) R_0623
>> Message-ID: <uscefvgfqpvt2cs8l...@4ax.com>
>> Date: 23 Jun 2003 16:58:25 GMT
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=94sdrvkdh1gk4spggrj3hgosovf9sc609p%404ax.com&rnum=1
>> Subject: Post-Soviet Religion (What Communists did to Christians) Newly
>> Expanded 09-21-2003 Message-ID: <94sdrvkdh1gk4spgg...@4ax.com>
>>
>> >And don't forget, Mr. Tavish (AKA Mr. I'll spend my entire life in front
>> >of my computer reposting the same shit day after day over and over and
>> >over and over and over again), when are you going to tell the 2 Jewish
>> >gents that I often hunt with that Jews are for gun control?
>>
>> Most are!
>>
>> >And guess how many NRA state chairs are Jewish? I'll give you a hint- it's more
>> >than 4 and less than 6. Sorry cupcake, gotta go, I've got more to my
>> >life that 23 1/2 hours a day of reposting old shit and blesing it as
>> >"classic reposts". Oh and Merry Christmas, should you happen to
>> >convert to real Christianity.
>>
>> Tavish
>
>See if you can respond without a repost. Hard working people can, but
>liberals and the white aryan racists take shortcuts, which include cut
>and paste. Why? Because it's easier.

You are making personal attacks again and projecting your mode of reply on me!

Tavish

How First Century Christianity Was Treated by Jews:


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Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:25 GMT
The first "Holocaust" was not Gentiles (Nazis) Against Jews
BUT was Jews (Communists) Against Christian Kulaks!!!
How Later Christianity was/is treated by Jews:
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Date: 21 Aug 2003 12:22:34 GMT
Jewish Led Bolsheviks Scalped & Crucified Christians by Philippa Fletcher
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Date: 1998/01/18
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Joebruno

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Personally, I don't consider him that important.

Roxanne Kedge

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Joebruno wrote:

> Personally, I don't consider him that important.

Sure Daily Parsha is not that important expect rabbis teach how to kill and
"erase" non-jewish history.

www.shemayisrael.co.il/parsha/orchards/ archives/miketz60.htm

Most would define a covenant as a relationship between 2 people. Taken for
granted is the definition that a covenant is to the EXCLUSION of all
others. When did the trouble start for the Jews under the Greeks? When King
Ptolome ordered 70 Elders to translate the Torah into Greek. It was all
down hill from there. Then it was translated from Greek to Latin. Latin to
English. The written Torah is now a public forum. The Christians say, "Oh
look, this is Jesus. This is Jesus." 1st coming, 2nd coming. 3rd coming.
However many times it takes to smooth out the rough spots. Then Islam got a
hold of it. "This is really Mohammed, not Isaac. Gimme the eraser. No, the
big one that erases 1500 years." The written Torah became a bible, r'l.
Just a bunch of stringed together verses. But no one will ever get their
hands on is the Torah sheh'b'al Peh- the Oral Law!


Above is a proof os Jewish hatred toward non-jews. See what he says?
"Eraser" means kill all Muslim and then he wants to kill Christian (of
course by Entertainment Industry which Jews control.


--
RED Lilo is Communist/Devil symble. Change it as soon as you can here is how
{ vim /etc/lilo.conf } and add following { menu-scheme=wB:wk:gB:wb } and
make sure you have { install=/boot/boot-menu.b } Don't let Communist /Devil
get in your computer!

Sara Salzman

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In article <ra39tv456v27fc559...@4ax.com>,
Doc Tavish <Doc_T...@TAVISH-AMERICAN-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:

Because your "content" is ... um... reharsed garbage that was refuted
YEARS ago?

Jeepers, you're stupid.

Sara

--
-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!
-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and
the bulk of my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference.
BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.
--Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above

Turlough O' Tavish

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On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 13:59:17 -0700,
<catamont-508B41...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

>In article <ra39tv456v27fc559...@4ax.com>,
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=ra39tv456v27fc559...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
The content the anti-Christs can't refute is contained in the above link.

> Doc Tavish <Doc_T...@TAVISH-AMERICAN-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:
>
>>
>> Why do you keep deleting what I post and then attacking me instead of
>> refuting my post's content?
>>
>
>Because your "content" is ... um... reharsed garbage that was refuted
>YEARS ago?
>
>Jeepers, you're stupid.

Personal attacks are not refuting me!

>Sara
Tavish

-- The Apostle Paul says much about Pharisaic Jews in two Bible scriptures:

_______________________________________________________________________________

Turlough O' Tavish

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On 8 Dec 2003 10:06:02 -0800, <bf3896a1.0312...@posting.google.com>
br...@indystart.com (Joebruno) wrote:

>Personally, I don't consider him that important.

Seeing how you won't ignore me then I must be rather important to you and your
fellow Pharisees!
Tavish

---
"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement
that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant

-- The Apostle Paul says much about Pharisaic Jews in two Bible scriptures:
1 Thessalonians 2:14,15 (English-NIV):
14 For you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea,
which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the
same things those churches suffered from the Jews,
15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out.
They displease God and are hostile to all men.

Notice the fine points made by the Apostle Paul in just
two verses of scripture!
He brought out in just two verses:
1) "those churches suffered from the Jews" Those sweet harmless
little Jews were committing "hate crimes" against Christians!
2) "the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus" The Apostle Paul was not the least bit
bashful about telling people "who killed the Lord Jesus" which the Churches of
Christendom won't do!
3) "They displease God.." The Temple is still in ruins as a testament
to that fact! Undeniable wouldn't you say? And last BUT certainly not
least by any stretch of the imagination:
4) "They (Jews) are hostile to all men."
Regarding "2) "the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus" The Apostle Paul was
not the least bit bashful about telling people "who killed the Lord Jesus"
which the Churches of Christendom won't do!" see this archive:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=m1p5nv4es86j78p5dr5pe41l8pi3vfcst0%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives &

Research) V2.5 Message-ID: <m1p5nv4es86j78p5d...@4ax.com>


Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:49 GMT

I might as well throw this in seeing how I mentioned "Hate Crimes."
Historically, who do most people think were more brutal- Nazis or
Pharisees?

(One example) Persecution and torture:
Matthew 23:34 (English-RSV)
[Jesus warned] "Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of
whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will scourge in your synagogues and
persecute from town to town...." [Tavish comment: The words just stated were
addressed to the Jewish Pharisee Rabbis!]

[To scourge means to lash or whip severely. Imagine Jews chasing people from
town to town and flogging them in their Jewish synagogues! I don't think even
the Nazis rounded up Jews and flogged them in Christian Churches!! What Jews
did happened and it is documented in the Bible for all to see! Tavish]
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2jgq8d7orrpfhm3j09%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: The Apostle Paul on Judaized Jews R_0524
Message-ID: <i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:25 GMT

Sara Salzman

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Dec 8, 2003, 6:56:31 PM12/8/03
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In article <971atv43fb99335dd...@4ax.com>,

Turlough O' Tavish <TurloughO...@SpamMeNot.net> wrote:

> On 8 Dec 2003 10:06:02 -0800,
> <bf3896a1.0312...@posting.google.com>
> br...@indystart.com (Joebruno) wrote:
>
> >Personally, I don't consider him that important.
>
> Seeing how you won't ignore me then I must be rather important to you and
> your
> fellow Pharisees!
> Tavish
>

Most people can't ignore a boil either, but that doesn't mean it's
important.

Sara Salzman

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Dec 8, 2003, 6:57:15 PM12/8/03
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In article <9v0atvgosrfaa8r1g...@4ax.com>,

Turlough O' Tavish <TurloughO...@SpamMeNot.net> wrote:

> 27fc559cvks5...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en


> The content the anti-Christs can't refute is contained in the above link.
>
> > Doc Tavish <Doc_T...@TAVISH-AMERICAN-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Why do you keep deleting what I post and then attacking me instead of
> >> refuting my post's content?
> >>
> >
> >Because your "content" is ... um... reharsed garbage that was refuted
> >YEARS ago?
> >
> >Jeepers, you're stupid.
>
> Personal attacks are not refuting me!
>
> >Sara
> Tavish
>

No. They're IGNORING you.

Can't stand it, can you?

Joebruno

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Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message news:<catamont-F3EEBF...@news-60.giganews.com>...

> In article <971atv43fb99335dd...@4ax.com>,
> Turlough O' Tavish <TurloughO...@SpamMeNot.net> wrote:
>
> > On 8 Dec 2003 10:06:02 -0800,
> > <bf3896a1.0312...@posting.google.com>
> > br...@indystart.com (Joebruno) wrote:
> >
> > >Personally, I don't consider him that important.
> >
> > Seeing how you won't ignore me then I must be rather important to you and
> > your
> > fellow Pharisees!
> > Tavish
> >
>
> Most people can't ignore a boil either, but that doesn't mean it's
> important.
>
> Sara

My cat can't ignore the itching from a flea bite.She scratches it.
That doesn't mean the bite is important-it's just a nuisance.

Joebruno

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Roxanne Kedge <missro...@excite.com> wrote in message news:<br2fl8$2879mb$1...@ID-211543.news.uni-berlin.de>...

> Joebruno wrote:
>
> > Personally, I don't consider him that important.
>
> Sure Daily Parsha is not that important expect rabbis teach how to kill and
> "erase" non-jewish history.
>
> www.shemayisrael.co.il/parsha/orchards/ archives/miketz60.htm
>
> Most would define a covenant as a relationship between 2 people. Taken for
> granted is the definition that a covenant is to the EXCLUSION of all
> others. When did the trouble start for the Jews under the Greeks? When King
> Ptolome ordered 70 Elders to translate the Torah into Greek. It was all
> down hill from there. Then it was translated from Greek to Latin. Latin to
> English. The written Torah is now a public forum. The Christians say, "Oh
> look, this is Jesus. This is Jesus." 1st coming, 2nd coming. 3rd coming.
> However many times it takes to smooth out the rough spots. Then Islam got a
> hold of it. "This is really Mohammed, not Isaac. Gimme the eraser. No, the
> big one that erases 1500 years." The written Torah became a bible, r'l.
> Just a bunch of stringed together verses. But no one will ever get their
> hands on is the Torah sheh'b'al Peh- the Oral Law!
>
>
> Above is a proof os Jewish hatred toward non-jews. See what he says?
> "Eraser" means kill all Muslim and then he wants to kill Christian (of
> course by Entertainment Industry which Jews control.

From MacBeth:

'Tis a tale told by an idiot
Full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing

Joebruno

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Turlough O' Tavish <TurloughO...@SpamMeNot.net> wrote in message news:<971atv43fb99335dd...@4ax.com>...

> On 8 Dec 2003 10:06:02 -0800, <bf3896a1.0312...@posting.google.com>
> br...@indystart.com (Joebruno) wrote:
>
> >Personally, I don't consider him that important.
>
> Seeing how you won't ignore me then I must be rather important to you and your
> fellow Pharisees!
> Tavish
>
><deleted irrelevant spam bullshit>


I spray my cat for fleas because they are a nuisance, not because they
are important. I kill cockroaches because they are filthy and
disgusting, not because they are important.

Joebruno

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Turlough O' Tavish <TurloughO...@SpamMeNot.net> wrote in message news:<971atv43fb99335dd...@4ax.com>...
> On 8 Dec 2003 10:06:02 -0800, <bf3896a1.0312...@posting.google.com>
> br...@indystart.com (Joebruno) wrote:
>
> >Personally, I don't consider him that important.
>
> Seeing how you won't ignore me then I must be rather important to you and your
> fellow Pharisees!
> Tavish
>
> ---


I used to respond to most of your posts. However, over time, it became
apparent to me that very few took you seriously. That's why I rarely
respond anymore.

I consider trying to reason with a wacko like you to be a futile
gesture. What matters to me is the effect you have on others, and that
is, according to all available evidence, negligible.

Yuri Tavishinski

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On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:57:15 -0700,
<catamont-94AE90...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

>Sara


>
>-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
>is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
>you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!

Notice I called Art Tandy a lying Jew Bastard (which he is) AFTER I had my fill
of his continual verbal abuse! I guess you expect me to not respond to such
abuse in the manner I did which is another reason why Jews are despised. Most
people hate double standards!

The above exchange was a result of this:
<start/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ple4cv8432qih0sft30s5tqi7junbkc0c3%404ax.com&rnum=4
Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish ...
Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
References: <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
On 13 May 2003 21:18:58 -0700, <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
tar...@indystart.com (knight57) wrote:

><deleted unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named
>Fatbury Scumbag>

My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call is all
a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong you dirty filthy

lying Jew bastard! <END>
------------------------
Rather than dealing in facts your Jew decided he would rather engage in
name calling and chose to ignore my proofs and it is all fully documented here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rtasbv05mohed914ktef95j9dh3kc11dmr%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy in Denial About Who The Main Gun Grabbers Are!
Message-ID: <rtasbv05mohed914k...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=kf6dcv8pgph2v568bnlhda66md7d4q8bg0%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy's Fellow Jews Are Trying to Extend Their Gun Control!
Message-ID: <kf6dcv8pgph2v568b...@4ax.com>
<end/quote>

>-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and
>the bulk of my posts prove so!

Still TRUE and my original postings as a whole are not personal attacks!
The greater majority of Art Tandy's posts are name calling and personal
attacks which seems to be a very common method of reply by Jews and their
gentile USEFUL IDIOTS!

>You can't discern the difference.
>BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.

Who called names first? It is Okay for Jews to hurl abuse in post after post but
when the recipient gets tired of it and calls the bastard a KIKE then you think
it is ironic or hypocritical. If you Jews don't like being called kikes, swine,
vermin etc, then STOP calling everyone you can't refute names!

> --Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above

No, there is no irony. I will call you obnoxious Jews what you are every time
I've had my abundant fill of your Chutzpa or name calling! If you don't want me
to call you and your fellow Christ Denying Pharisees KIKES or Lying Jew
Bastards/Bitches in reply to your kind's continual insults hurled at me then you
should stop with the name calling! Plain and simple!! Even Sara Salzman who
confessed to being mentally retarded should understand the concept!
~~Sara Salzman on record as admitting she's retarded?~~
On 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT, Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
"How many times do I have to tell you-- I AM RETARDED!!!"
<catamont-548CA8...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=catamont-548CA8.19314906072003%40spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net&output=gplain
Date: 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT
References: <hjihgvss1ujfegiai...@4ax.com>

Need I say more about Jewish double standards and hypocrisy?

Sara Salzman

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In article <vupdtv0u4eirnln71...@4ax.com>,
Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote:

> On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:57:15 -0700,
> <catamont-94AE90...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
> >Sara
> >
> >-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
> >is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
> >you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!
>
>
>

> My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call is
> all
> a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong you dirty
> filthy
> lying Jew bastard! <END>
> ------------------------

Please explain the difference beween the two quotes, Mr. Bradbury.

Thanks again for proving that, unlike you, I do not alter, change, or
forge quotes.


>
> Need I say more about Jewish double standards and hypocrisy?
>

You haven't said ANYTHING, just proved my point.
Thanks,

Sara

--

-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!

-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and

the bulk of my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference.


BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.

Yuri Tavishinski

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Dec 10, 2003, 11:45:46 AM12/10/03
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From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.fan.g-gordon-liddy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.usa.republican,
alt.revisionism,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: It's Official---Tavish is THE Antichrist
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
Message-ID: <catamont-196CD7...@news-60.giganews.com>
References: <vupdtv0u4eirnln71...@4ax.com>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 06:34:19 -0700,
<catamont-196CD7...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

>In article <vupdtv0u4eirnln71...@4ax.com>,
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=vupdtv0u4eirnln71...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en

The link to my post which deluded sara is now replying to is just above.
I cite my exact post for the archives at the bottom so everyone may compare what
I posted to Sara's deluded reply in which she claims I claimed a difference
exists between two posts.

> Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:57:15 -0700,
>> <catamont-94AE90...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
>> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Sara
>> >
>> >-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
>> >is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
>> >you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!
>>
>> My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call is
>> all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong you dirty
>> filthy lying Jew bastard! <END>
>> ------------------------
>
>Please explain the difference beween the two quotes, Mr. Bradbury.

^^^^^^
Can't you spell? I have to ask that seeing how you like to nit pick your
opposition like the arrogant Pharisee you are!

BTW I didn't say there was a difference! Can you show where I said there was!?
I pointed out that you want double standards by it being acceptable for your
fellow Jew (Art Tandy) to continually hurl verbal abuse at me with his name
calling and insults that you take issue when I finally call the loud mouth a
"Lying Jew bastard (which he is)" or a "stupid kike (which he is)". If Jews
don't like receiving such replies to verbal abuse then Jews need to learn how
to act in a civilized manner!

>Thanks again for proving that, unlike you, I do not alter, change, or
>forge quotes.

You truly are deluded!

>> Need I say more about Jewish double standards and hypocrisy?
>>
>
>You haven't said ANYTHING, just proved my point.

I proved the point that Jews want two standards which anyone reading this post
should see. Just because you have mental problems and can't see the obvious
doesn't mean others have the same limits you do!

>Thanks,
>
>Sara

Once again:

>-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
>is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
>you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!

Notice I called Art Tandy a lying Jew Bastard (which he is) AFTER I had my fill


of his continual verbal abuse! I guess you expect me to not respond to such
abuse in the manner I did which is another reason why Jews are despised. Most
people hate double standards!

The above exchange was a result of this:
<start/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ple4cv8432qih0sft30s5tqi7junbkc0c3%404ax.com&rnum=4
Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish ...
Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
References: <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
On 13 May 2003 21:18:58 -0700, <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
tar...@indystart.com (knight57) wrote:

><deleted unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named
>Fatbury Scumbag>

My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call is all


a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong you dirty filthy
lying Jew bastard! <END>
------------------------

Rather than dealing in facts your Jew decided he would rather engage in
name calling and chose to ignore my proofs and it is all fully documented here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rtasbv05mohed914ktef95j9dh3kc11dmr%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy in Denial About Who The Main Gun Grabbers Are!
Message-ID: <rtasbv05mohed914k...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=kf6dcv8pgph2v568bnlhda66md7d4q8bg0%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy's Fellow Jews Are Trying to Extend Their Gun Control!
Message-ID: <kf6dcv8pgph2v568b...@4ax.com>
<end/quote>

>-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and


>the bulk of my posts prove so!

Still TRUE and my original postings as a whole are not personal attacks!


The greater majority of Art Tandy's posts are name calling and personal
attacks which seems to be a very common method of reply by Jews and their
gentile USEFUL IDIOTS!

>You can't discern the difference.


>BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.

Who called names first? It is Okay for Jews to hurl abuse in post after post but


when the recipient gets tired of it and calls the bastard a KIKE then you think
it is ironic or hypocritical. If you Jews don't like being called kikes, swine,
vermin etc, then STOP calling everyone you can't refute names!

> --Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above

No, there is no irony. I will call you obnoxious Jews what you are every time


I've had my abundant fill of your Chutzpa or name calling! If you don't want me
to call you and your fellow Christ Denying Pharisees KIKES or Lying Jew
Bastards/Bitches in reply to your kind's continual insults hurled at me then you
should stop with the name calling! Plain and simple!! Even Sara Salzman who
confessed to being mentally retarded should understand the concept!
~~Sara Salzman on record as admitting she's retarded?~~
On 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT, Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
"How many times do I have to tell you-- I AM RETARDED!!!"
<catamont-548CA8...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=catamont-548CA8.19314906072003%40spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net&output=gplain
Date: 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT
References: <hjihgvss1ujfegiai...@4ax.com>

Need I say more about Jewish double standards and hypocrisy?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

My original posting which Sara made her deluded reply to as she did above now in
full context for the archives:

<START>

From: Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET>
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.fan.g-gordon-liddy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.usa.republican,
alt.revisionism,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: It's Official---Tavish is THE Antichrist
Reply-To: Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET
Message-ID: <vupdtv0u4eirnln71...@4ax.com>
Date: 10 Dec 2003 09:30:08 GMT

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:57:15 -0700,
<catamont-94AE90...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

>Sara
>
>-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
>is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
>you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!

Notice I called Art Tandy a lying Jew Bastard (which he is) AFTER I had my fill


of his continual verbal abuse! I guess you expect me to not respond to such
abuse in the manner I did which is another reason why Jews are despised. Most
people hate double standards!

The above exchange was a result of this:
<start/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ple4cv8432qih0sft30s5tqi7junbkc0c3%404ax.com&rnum=4
Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish ...
Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
References: <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
On 13 May 2003 21:18:58 -0700, <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
tar...@indystart.com (knight57) wrote:

><deleted unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named
>Fatbury Scumbag>

My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call is all


a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong you dirty filthy
lying Jew bastard! <END>
------------------------

Rather than dealing in facts your Jew decided he would rather engage in
name calling and chose to ignore my proofs and it is all fully documented here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rtasbv05mohed914ktef95j9dh3kc11dmr%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy in Denial About Who The Main Gun Grabbers Are!
Message-ID: <rtasbv05mohed914k...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=kf6dcv8pgph2v568bnlhda66md7d4q8bg0%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy's Fellow Jews Are Trying to Extend Their Gun Control!
Message-ID: <kf6dcv8pgph2v568b...@4ax.com>
<end/quote>

>-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and


>the bulk of my posts prove so!

Still TRUE and my original postings as a whole are not personal attacks!


The greater majority of Art Tandy's posts are name calling and personal
attacks which seems to be a very common method of reply by Jews and their
gentile USEFUL IDIOTS!

>You can't discern the difference.


>BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.

Who called names first? It is Okay for Jews to hurl abuse in post after post but


when the recipient gets tired of it and calls the bastard a KIKE then you think
it is ironic or hypocritical. If you Jews don't like being called kikes, swine,
vermin etc, then STOP calling everyone you can't refute names!

> --Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above

No, there is no irony. I will call you obnoxious Jews what you are every time


I've had my abundant fill of your Chutzpa or name calling! If you don't want me
to call you and your fellow Christ Denying Pharisees KIKES or Lying Jew
Bastards/Bitches in reply to your kind's continual insults hurled at me then you
should stop with the name calling! Plain and simple!! Even Sara Salzman who
confessed to being mentally retarded should understand the concept!
~~Sara Salzman on record as admitting she's retarded?~~
On 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT, Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
"How many times do I have to tell you-- I AM RETARDED!!!"
<catamont-548CA8...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=catamont-548CA8.19314906072003%40spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net&output=gplain
Date: 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT
References: <hjihgvss1ujfegiai...@4ax.com>

Need I say more about Jewish double standards and hypocrisy?

_______________________________________________________________________________


Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 -
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<STOP>

I even left in my news server's ad just in case the Jews want to strain out the
gnat and swallow the camel in their piss poor damage control. Does anyone see
where I stated OR implied as Sara "The Fist" Salzman claimed with her words:
"Please explain the difference beween the two quotes, Mr. Bradbury." Her version
of what I posted doesn't even mirror what I actually posted and YET some people
don't understand why I call Jews like Sara Salzman liars!

Now go fist your fat twat you homely repulsive lying bitch and please do keep
proving my point about how Jews are hypocritical, deluded, and deceitful! You
are only hurting your own cause!

Sara Salzman aka Sara "The Fist" Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> did post:
From: ssch...@infinet.com Sara Schwartz
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Fist Fucking
:
By the way... Elbow Grease IS WATER SOLUABLE.
Says so right on the label.
We've found for MANY things, it is "wetter" and slicker than KY.
Your mileage may, of course, vary.
Perrrfect
--
It never rains under my umbrella
~~End~~

Sara Salzman aka Sara "The Fist" Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> did post:
From: ssch...@infinet.com Sara Schwartz
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Fist fucking (1)
In article <3hg9a1$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, lant...@aol.com (L
Antoniou) wrote:
> Perhaps you should read the messages before responding. If you read all
> of mine, you will see that eventually I do suggest the "duck" position -
> all fingers together. What I (and Elf) was responding to was the
> suggestion that one *begin* fisting in that position. Of course, you go
> on to say *exactly that*.
In fact, Laura, I did NOT say you should begin in the "duck" position. I
just stated that it was the eventual position to achieve.
I'm sorry if I did not make that clear in my post. I *did* state that fist
fucking was not something I had done very often, and merely wanted to
impart my own (limited) experience. <END>
Imagine the person in these photos assuming the "duck" position
and "fisting" herself!
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/2/image.gif
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=s70dcvgs3eucqd31n81gqo5e21uj7vvg67%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Sara "The Fist" Salzman - A Compilation of Her Better Known Literary
Works and Opinions
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 13:35:49 -0500
Message-ID: <s70dcvgs3eucqd31n...@4ax.com>

Tavish

Sara "The Fist" Salzman on Safe Torture
Subject: Re: What is power? (was Re: Power Imbalance v. Power Exchange)
In article <3gv6bm$4...@crl9.crl.com>, ver...@crl.com (Janet W. Hardy) wrote:
> Quick straw poll here: How many people have ever felt totally,
> completely safe during any S/M scene -- safeword or no, light or heavy,
> D/S or sensation-only?
Verdant:
I hate to muddle the semantics further, but... safe? You mean safe that my
Master won't break my leg or suffocate me to the point of death in a scene?
100%. Period. I know my Master would never cause tha kind of damage.
Safe, as in not getting hurt, or not getting hurt MORE thn I'd LIKE to accept?
Certianly not 100%. Mastercat is always pushing limits, and pushing me to
the edge or slightly farther.
But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with. Perrrfect <END>

Yuri Tavishinski

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On 9 Dec 2003 06:11:10 -0800, <bf3896a1.03120...@posting.google.com>
br...@indystart.com (Joebruno) wrote:

>Roxanne Kedge <missro...@excite.com> wrote in message news:<br2fl8$2879mb$1...@ID-211543.news.uni-berlin.de>...
>> Joebruno wrote:
>>
>> > Personally, I don't consider him that important.

If that was so you would ignore me so I must be important seeing how you spend
so much time replying to many of my posts with your usual verbal abuse (which
only makes my argument for me and you're too stupid to see it!)!

BTW I am not "THE Antichrist" but you and your fellow obnoxious Yids are as
proven here:

ANTI-CHRIST IDENTIFIED:

1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard
that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists."

1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is
the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those who are trying to
mislead you!"

1 John 4: 2,3 "You gain knowledge of the inspired expression from God by this:
Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in the
flesh originates with God, but every inspired expression that does not confess
Jesus does not originate with God, Furthermore this is the antichrist's inspired
expression which you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world."

2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not
confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never
receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a
greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."

That last sentence which says: "For he that says a greeting to him is a sharer
in his wicked works." is pretty strong advice!

<<Special Note: The scriptures apply to Jews regarding the Messiah/Christ seeing

Christ=Messiah:

AND SEEING HOW JEW ART TANDY IS A PATHLOGICAL LIAR THIS FITS HIM:

CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL IDENTIFIED:

John 8:1-6,31,37-49 :: New International Version (NIV)
1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
2 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered
around him, and he sat down to teach them.
3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in
adultery. They made her stand before the group
4 and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.
5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?"
6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing
him.

<<The above scripture shows who Jesus was addressing and it shows they were
trying to trap him in his speech-- a trait the Pharisee devils have honed over
the past 2000 years I might add!>>

31 To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, "If you hold to my teaching,
you are really my disciples.

<<Only those Jews who believed in Jesus were looked upon favorably and those who
didn't are addressed in the following scripture. Verse 31 also proves that NOT
all Jews are the Children of the Devil as some people want to teach.>>

37 I know you are Abraham's descendants. Yet you are ready to kill me, because
you have no room for my word.
38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father's presence, and you do what
you have heard from your father."
39 "Abraham is our father," they answered.
40 "If you were Abraham's children," said Jesus, "then you would do the things
Abraham did. As it is, you are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the
truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things.
41 You are doing the things your own father does."
"We are not illegitimate children," they protested. "The only Father we have is
God himself."

The Children of the Devil

42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came
from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.
43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I
say.
44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's
desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for
there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is
a liar and the father of lies.
45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!
46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't
you believe me?
47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that
you do not belong to God."
48 The Jews answered him, "Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan
and demon-possessed?"
49 "I am not possessed by a demon," said Jesus, "but I honor my Father and you
dishonor me..

<<The above is irrefutable about who Jesus referred to as the Children of the
Devil.>>

>> Sure Daily Parsha is not that important expect rabbis teach how to kill and
>> "erase" non-jewish history.
>>
>> www.shemayisrael.co.il/parsha/orchards/archives/miketz60.htm

(Link active December 10, 2003. Archived locally as: miketz60)



>> Most would define a covenant as a relationship between 2 people. Taken for
>> granted is the definition that a covenant is to the EXCLUSION of all
>> others. When did the trouble start for the Jews under the Greeks? When King
>> Ptolome ordered 70 Elders to translate the Torah into Greek. It was all
>> down hill from there. Then it was translated from Greek to Latin. Latin to
>> English. The written Torah is now a public forum. The Christians say, "Oh
>> look, this is Jesus. This is Jesus." 1st coming, 2nd coming. 3rd coming.
>> However many times it takes to smooth out the rough spots. Then Islam got a
>> hold of it. "This is really Mohammed, not Isaac. Gimme the eraser. No, the
>> big one that erases 1500 years." The written Torah became a bible, r'l.
>> Just a bunch of stringed together verses. But no one will ever get their
>> hands on is the Torah sheh'b'al Peh- the Oral Law!
>>
>>

>> Above is a proof of Jewish hatred toward non-jews. See what he says?


>> "Eraser" means kill all Muslim and then he wants to kill Christian (of
>> course by Entertainment Industry which Jews control.

I have archived the material locally and I will give you credit as the one who
found it when I use the above in future postings

More hatred of non-Jews by Jews:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=kllghv4i1i04qsl4hc4uva984ad499imdg%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Non-Jews: What is Taught About Them & How They are Viewed by 21st
Century Pharisees V2.1 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:23:59 -0500
Message-ID: <kllghv4i1i04qsl4h...@4ax.com>

>
>From MacBeth:
>
>'Tis a tale told by an idiot
>Full of sound and fury
>Signifying nothing

IOW Arthur Tandy was slam dunked and as usual he replies with personal attacks.
How Jewish of him!
Tavish

---Traits and tactics of trolls commented on:
"Well, <<fill in the blank with whoever is smearing and/or lying now>> . . .
I've been debating 'anti-revisionists' in alt.revisionism for years and I've yet
to see you do anything other than hurl abuse at people. You people are bereft of
arguments. All you 'anti-revisionist' characters can do is call people names,
try to intimidate people, smear and defame them and, if that doesn't work, troll
like hell."
-From: "david_michael" <david_...@onetel.net.uk>
-Subject: Re: Paul Grubach
-Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 02:55:56 +0100
-Message-ID: <3ec0...@212.67.96.135>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tavish comment: The comment between << and >> was mine.

Yuri Tavishinski

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On 9 Dec 2003 06:54:57 -0800, <bf3896a1.03120...@posting.google.com>
br...@indystart.com (Joebruno) wrote:

>I consider trying to reason with a wacko like you to be a futile
>gesture. What matters to me is the effect you have on others, and that
>is, according to all available evidence, negligible.

Yet you continually pay attention to me! I wonder why!

Tavish

---
"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement
that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant

Yuri Tavishinski

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On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:56:31 -0700,
<catamont-F3EEBF...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

>Sara
>


>-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
>is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
>you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!

Notice I called Art Tandy a lying Jew Bastard (which he is) AFTER I had my fill


of his continual verbal abuse! I guess you expect me to not respond to such
abuse in the manner I did which is another reason why Jews are despised. Most
people hate double standards!

The above exchange was a result of this:
<start/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ple4cv8432qih0sft30s5tqi7junbkc0c3%404ax.com&rnum=4
Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish ...
Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
References: <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
On 13 May 2003 21:18:58 -0700, <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
tar...@indystart.com (knight57) wrote:

><deleted unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named
>Fatbury Scumbag>

My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call is all


a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong you dirty filthy

lying Jew bastard! <END>
------------------------
Rather than dealing in facts your Jew decided he would rather engage in
name calling and chose to ignore my proofs and it is all fully documented here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rtasbv05mohed914ktef95j9dh3kc11dmr%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy in Denial About Who The Main Gun Grabbers Are!
Message-ID: <rtasbv05mohed914k...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=kf6dcv8pgph2v568bnlhda66md7d4q8bg0%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy's Fellow Jews Are Trying to Extend Their Gun Control!
Message-ID: <kf6dcv8pgph2v568b...@4ax.com>
<end/quote>

>-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and


>the bulk of my posts prove so!

Still TRUE and my original postings as a whole are not personal attacks!


The greater majority of Art Tandy's posts are name calling and personal
attacks which seems to be a very common method of reply by Jews and their
gentile USEFUL IDIOTS!

>You can't discern the difference.


>BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.

Who called names first? It is Okay for Jews to hurl abuse in post after post but


when the recipient gets tired of it and calls the bastard a KIKE then you think
it is ironic or hypocritical. If you Jews don't like being called kikes, swine,
vermin etc, then STOP calling everyone you can't refute names!

> --Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above

No, there is no irony. I will call you obnoxious Jews what you are every time


I've had my abundant fill of your Chutzpa or name calling! If you don't want me
to call you and your fellow Christ Denying Pharisees KIKES or Lying Jew
Bastards/Bitches in reply to your kind's continual insults hurled at me then you
should stop with the name calling! Plain and simple!! Even Sara Salzman who
confessed to being mentally retarded should understand the concept!
~~Sara Salzman on record as admitting she's retarded?~~
On 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT, Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
"How many times do I have to tell you-- I AM RETARDED!!!"
<catamont-548CA8...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=catamont-548CA8.19314906072003%40spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net&output=gplain
Date: 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT
References: <hjihgvss1ujfegiai...@4ax.com>

Need I say more about Jewish double standards and hypocrisy?

Now go fist your fat twat you hypocritical pig!

Tavish

_______________________________________________________________________________

Sara Salzman

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In article <qlketvs5i3nreia8v...@4ax.com>,
Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote:

>
> >-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and
> >the bulk of my posts prove so!
>


>

> No, there is no irony. I will call you obnoxious Jews what you are every time
> I've had my abundant fill of your Chutzpa or name calling!

>

> Now go fist your fat twat you hypocritical pig!
>
> Tavish

Yep. Ironically challenged, alright.

Sara

--

-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!

-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and

the bulk of my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference.


BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.

Sara Salzman

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In article <j4ietv4cj534m8ldd...@4ax.com>,
Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote:


>
> Now go fist your fat twat you homely repulsive lying bitch and please do keep
> proving my point about how Jews are hypocritical, deluded, and deceitful! You
> are only hurting your own cause!
>

So nice that Mr. Bradbury doesn't engage in name-calling or personal
attacks.

[FORGED, ALTERED POSTS DELETED]

Sara

Followups set

--

-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!

-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and

the bulk of my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference.


BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.

Yuri Tavishinski

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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:52:04 -0700,
<catamont-4CB041...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> (who keeps making my argument that Jews such as her

and her cronies are Children of the Devil [The Father of Lies]) wrote:

CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL IDENTIFIED:

John 8:37-49 :: New International Version (NIV)

>In article <j4ietv4cj534m8ldd...@4ax.com>,


> Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote:
>
>>
>> Now go fist your fat twat you homely repulsive lying bitch and please do keep
>> proving my point about how Jews are hypocritical, deluded, and deceitful! You
>> are only hurting your own cause!
>>
>
>So nice that Mr. Bradbury doesn't engage in name-calling or personal
>attacks.

You expect me to put up with YOUR abuse, YOUR lies, and YOUR defamation without
letting the world know what sort of a vile and downright nasty and repulsive
"crackpot" woman you are when you keep running your mouth? You expect way too
much of me!

>[FORGED, ALTERED POSTS DELETED]

FORGED, ALTERED!? I did no such thing you lying pig! Those are YOUR posts so I
did not forge them! THAT IS FACT! Once again:

Now if you want examples of what real forgeries are and criminal ones at that
which your fellow KIKE fabricated and used in a civil lawsuit (which he lost)
against me which makes the Lying Jew bastard a perjurer then comment on these
you Lying Jew bitch:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=Tavish%20&safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=bb59tvg62vsljf1rc...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Sara "The Fist" Salzman Won't Comment on These Forgeries - I Wonder
Why!.. aka Yale Edeiken Disciplined by The Disciplinary Board of the Supreme
Court of The State of Pennsylvania! NEVER FORGET!! R_1208
Message-ID: <bb59tvg62vsljf1rc...@4ax.com>
Date: 8 Dec 2003 15:15:21 GMT

>Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury.C1
>Last-Modified: 2001/02/15
>
>IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF LEHIGH COUNTY
>
>CIVIL DIVISION -- LAW
>
>YALE F. EDEIKEN :
> :
>Plaintiff :
> :
>vs. : No. 99-C- 2786
> :
>
>SCOTT BRADBURY

> 24. That on December 5, 1998, Defendant sent Plaintiff an
>electronic communication stating in pertinent part:
>"You only want to blow Joe
>You want to suck Joe's Aryan cock, don't you Yale?
> Doc Tavish"
> Said telephonic communication is attached hereto and made part
>hereof as Exhibit "A-1."

PROOF THE ABOVE SWORN STATEMENT IS PERJURED:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=1201801624195636%40unribbed.net&rnum=1
From: earlt...@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Re: Vapor, Fatelvis, Bull Conner & B9Predator. Prepare for the worst.
Date: 1999/01/08
Message-ID: <12018016...@unribbed.net>#1/1
X-Trace: news.rdc1.ct.home.com 915759892 24.65.203.77
(Thu, 07 Jan 1999 17:44:52 PDT)
Organization: @Home Network Canada
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 17:44:52 PDT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american,alt.flame.niggers
X-Complaints-To: ab...@home.net

> From: ya...@enter.net (Yale F. Edeiken)
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> Subject: Re: PIN JOE DOWN AND SUCK HIS COCK
> > Isn't strange that Yale has only two little harmless posts to offer
> >in his insane attempts to slander?
>
> If they are harmless why are your associates so upset. Indeed you
> admit that. If they were "harmless" they could not be "slander" (they
> aren't, of course).
>
> > REMEMBER: THEY ONLY SMEAR THE ONES THEY FEAR.
>
> But I neither fear you or smear you.

you only want to blow joe

you want to suck joes aryan cock dont you yale

~~End of Exact GOOGLE Archive~~

Not sent by me, not signed "Doc Tavish" and it's from a regular ISP too!
That is perjury submitting falsified evidence!

> 31 That on December 6, 1998, Defendant sent Plaintiff an
>electronic communication stating in pertinent part:
>
> "So why do you still want to suck his cock?
>Do you think you'll become a man by ingesting his manhood?
>
> Doc Tavish"

PROOF THE ABOVE SWORN STATEMENT IS PERJURED:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=0901801802535739%40hexer.org&output=gplain
From: Laz <hell...@home.com>
Subject: I'm targeted for what? damn.
Date: 1999/01/05
Message-ID: <09018018...@hexer.org>#1/1
X-Trace: news.rdc1.ct.home.com 915502345 24.2.101.226 (Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:12:25
PDT)
Organization: @Home Network
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:12:25 PDT
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
X-Complaints-To: ab...@home.net

> It is now 8 days since this lying nazi bragged that he would have my
> service with enter.net discontinued.
>
> My e-mail address is still ya...@enter.net,
>
> He is still a nazi.
>
> He is still a liar.
>
> He is still a punk.
>
>
> --YFE

so why do you still want to suck his cock

do you think you'll become a man by ingesting his manhood

~~End of Exact GOOGLE Archive~~

Yale got the author and date wrong too and the post was not signed
Doc Tavish as he claimed in his perjured statement.

> 34 That on December 8, 1998, Defendant sent Plaintiff an
>electronic communication stating in pertinent part:
>
>All Nizkooks need to be apprehended, interrogated, and placed in protective
>custody until a final solution can be made.
>
> Doc Tavish"
>
> Said telephonic communication is attached hereto and made part
>hereof as Exhibit "A11."

PROOF THE ABOVE SWORN STATEMENT IS PERJURED:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=84C06A88F1507F28.B631F6D1B209C3CD.7C009BBF34A90591%40library-proxy.airnews.net&output=gplain
From: Pee Kitty <Pki...@mariner.cris.com>
Subject: Re: Furmanski is lame
Date: 1998/12/20
Message-ID:
<84C06A88F1507F28.B631F6D1...@library-proxy.airnews.net>#1/1
X-Orig-Message-ID: <20129820...@grinding.net>
NNTP-Posting-Time: Sun Dec 20 21:15:30 1998
Organization: Digital Highway (using Airnews.net!)
NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library3
Abuse-Reports-To: abuse at dhc.net to report improper postings
Newsgroups: alt.slack,alt.newsangels

> From: ya...@enter.net (Yale F. Edeiken)
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> Subject: Re: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Nizkook Band
> References: <19981207212932...@ng-cb1.aol.com>
> X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.)
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.170.16.148
> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.170.16.148
> Message-ID: <366ca...@news3.enter.net>
> Date: 7 Dec 1998 22:57:39 +0500

all nizkooks need to be apprehended, interrogated, and placed in protective
custody until a final solution can be made

~~End of Exact GOOGLE Archive~~

Once again a post Yale admitted in a sworn statement signed "Doc Tavish"
when it is obvious another person posted it! PERJURY!!!!!

THE FOLLOWING IS THE CROWN OF MANUFACTURING EVIDENCE AND REMEMBER ALL OF THIS
FALSE TESTIMONY WAS SUBMITTED TO A CIVIL COURT AS SWORN STATEMENTS BY CRIMINAL
PERJURER NAMED YALE F. EDEIKEN OF ALLENTOWN, PENNSYLVANIA!!

The following false contrived accusation is the pinnacle of perjury or
manufacturing of evidence to be submitted as sworn testimony in a court of law
and this was done by a Plaintiff (who was his own attorney and who is an
attorney) against the Defendant; me. I will slam dunk this criminality in full
just below!

> 39 That on November 11, 1999, Defendant sent Plaintiff an
>electronic communication stating in pertinent part:
>
>"You are just as much of a filthy little cock sucker vermin as your butt
>buddy Jeff Brown. You have to rely on out of context quotes and character
>assassination. It would be a pleasure to see someone slowly work you over
>with an ice pick Yale!"
>
> --digsig
> Authentic Doc Tavish
>
> 191xllxyGtVQwy0mtCiBjivyX+knCUXYwdRt ptdrtqb
> qfQbXQtisWlB/E1+yWkYkw1Wr7mGiAFcJ w6Wl/aU
> 4GEbQtlQOHN/G3asOLBC9JmQXWuqXwj BnPCuOV9cd
>
> Said telephonic communication is attached hereto and made part
>hereof as Exhibit "A-16."

Positive proof 100% that the Plaintiff willfully and most maliciously lied to a
civil court with the above accusation:

Xref:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=d0ic0v81gdhrd1djqe4k4k2mnvq4c4sdi5%404ax.com&output=gplain
Message-ID: <d0ic0v81gdhrd1djq...@4ax.com>

39 That on November 11, 1999, Defendant sent Plaintiff an
electronic communication stating in pertinent part:

"You are just as much of a filthy little cock sucker vermin as your butt
buddy Jeff Brown. You have to rely on out of context quotes and character
assassination. It would be a pleasure to see someone slowly work you over
with an ice pick Yale!"

--digsig
Authentic Doc Tavish

191xllxyGtVQwy0mtCiBjivyX+knCUXYwdRt ptdrtqb
qfQbXQtisWlB/E1+yWkYkw1Wr7mGiAFcJ w6Wl/aU
4GEbQtlQOHN/G3asOLBC9JmQXWuqXwj BnPCuOV9cd

Said telephonic communication is attached hereto and made part
hereof as Exhibit "A-16."

Respectfully submitted,
________________________
Yale F. Edeiken

<end>

Notice what was said in an anonymous post (shown just below) and the date of the
post and compare it to what Yale F. Edeiken charges just above! Remember Yale
claimed I e-mailed the above to him and he claimed I signed it and had my
digital signature and this was done in a sworn document admitted to a civil
court of law!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&ic=1&selm=199902171515.KAA08970%40domains.invweb.net
From: Anonymous (nob...@openpgp.net)
Subject: Re: Joe Bellinger, Proven Liar
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Date: 1999/02/17

> > >>It is thus established that:
> > >>
> > >> - Joe Bellinger stated that he does, in fact, "post deliberate
> > >>misinformation".
> > >> - Joe Bellinger denied having made said statement.
> > >> - Joe Bellinger is, therefore, a liar.
> > >>
> > >>To coin a phrase: GAME, SET, MATCH.
> > >Did anyone expect any different result?
> > LOL! For grown men, you are all so childish.
:
> Expecting some minimal level of honesty -- a low standard which
> you seem incapable of meeting -- is hardly "childish."
>
> It frightens me that, with attitudes like this, you are raising a
> child.
>
> In article <19990112213243...@ng31.aol.com>,
> deb...@aol.com
> (Debunks) wrote: "I post deliberate misinformation . . ."
>
> --YFE

You are just as much of a filthy little cock sucker vermin as your butt
buddy Jeff Brown. You have to rely on out of context quotes and character
assassination. It would be a pleasure to see someone slowly work you over
with an ice pick Yale!

~~End of GOOGLE aka DejaCom Archive~~

Notice the above was an anonymous post. It was not an e-mail and notice that it
had no digital signature signed by me! Also notice the big difference in dates
the above was posted February 17, 1999 yet Yale accuses me: "That on November
11, 1999, Defendant sent Plaintiff an electronic communication stating in
pertinent part (the above EXACT quoted text)"

Witness this:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=6&ic=1&selm=osjdbt41kq8ov7moqagjivihjnda67vadt%404ax.com
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:07:41 -0600
Message-ID: <osjdbt41kq8ov7moq...@4ax.com>

From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish,alt.conspiracy
Subject: "ALL FACTS IN THE COMPLAINT ... ARE DEEMED ADMITTED."
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:00:19 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <96fnp3$2bar$1...@news.tht.net>

Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury.C1
Last-Modified: 2001/02/14

--digsig
Authentic Doc Tavish

191xllxyGtVQwy0mtCiBjivyX+knCUXYwdRt ptdrtqb
qfQbXQtisWlB/E1+yWkYkw1Wr7mGiAFcJ w6Wl/aU
4GEbQtlQOHN/G3asOLBC9JmQXWuqXwj BnPCuOV9cd

Said telephonic communication is attached hereto and made part
hereof as Exhibit "A-16."

<stop>

Crypto Kong does not insert blank lines in between "Authentic Doc Tavish"
and the crypto-text as confirmed by the software's author to both myself
and my attorney!

Here is the official reply to my inquiry:

X-Sender: jam...@shell11.ba.best.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:51:20 -0800
To: Scott Bradbury <xx...@flash.net>
From: "James A. Donald"
Subject: Re: Inquiry on Crypto-Kong Signatures
Cc: "Daylin B. Leach - Attorney at Law" <xxx...@aol.com>

--
At 0412 AM 2/23/2001 -0600, Scott Bradbury wrote
> The above forged digital signataure is verbatim and is exactly which was
> presented to the court.

To be presented to the court, it must be alleged to have signed
something. A digital signature without the text that it signed is of no
significance.

(Note: I did not include Yale's fabricated e-mail- I just sent Mr. Donald
the forged digital signature.)

> The digsig also has a blank line in between "Authentic Doc
> Tavish" and the bogus crypto-text. Your software does not do this in
> ANY example I've ever seen.

That is perfectly true. My program does not emit such blank lines, which
suggest fabrication, but not strong evidence of anything much, since the
blank line could have arisen from various accidents in transferring text
from one program to another.

> I do this for the benefit of my attorney. -)

--digsig
James A. Donald
6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG
GnwV4rmsIA8faEZwt0YOXUiSSJflZjiLd/kTrWIn
4F1jg73LTqhfLPw9BVz2uDGwa7v2WYBG0wNGHSkoM

<END>

--
As for Mr. Donald's statement: "the blank line could have arisen from
various accidents in transferring text from one program to another"-
the above fabricated signature from Edeiken's complaint is verbatim in the
group of false accusations known as "ALL FACTS IN THE COMPLAINT ... ARE
DEEMED ADMITTED." Notice Mr. Donald's digsig? No spaces and blank lines!
Notice my digsig made on this paragraph alone?

--digsig
Authentic Doc Tavish
Chyeer+xvAMg6mRtq2niuMN+bMnEkGsy0ShVPm2xATn
ejnWmIh1JCyv0DNQedTMFE/cAfXBLuqdxSAkk9w/
4O0CysIswhm2G04W2mJFeW7C7K5RHQkNr3oFBzH6X

NO BLANK LINES AND SPACES!

What are the penalties for submitting manufactured evidence?

[...]

Here is Yale making his false accusation in public forum:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3920d160.112256232%40news.flash.net&rnum=1
Subject: Yale's Anonymous Post Signed By Me?! What an Oaf! aka Re: Bradbury
Caught in a Psychotic Delusional Rage
Date: 2000/05/16
Message-ID: <3920d160....@news.flash.net>

On Tue, 16 May 2000 04:12:22 GMT, "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
<GU3U4.3347$v%5.24...@newshog.newsread.com> wrote:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=GU3U4.3347%24v%255.242633%40newshog.newsread.com&output=gplain
>Doc Tavish <doc_t...@NOSPAMmy-deja.com> wrote in message
>news:3920c22c....@news.flash.net...

[...]

>> > Perhaps you should ask your shrink about people who write anonumus
>> >notes to others like:
>> >
>> > " You are just as much of a filthy little cock sucker vermin as your
>> >butt buddy Jeff Brown. You have to rely on out of context quotes and
>> >character assassination. It would be a pleasure to see someone slowly
>> >work you over with an ice pick Yale!"
>> The above is just exactly what you said it is Yale, "anonumus" your word!
>> Just because you are a paranoid and have a psychotic dislike of me does
>> not mean every thing you imagine comes from me.
:
> It came from you

Then why didn't you show the headers which would show so Yale?

>and was signed by you.

Then why didn't you show my signature? If I signed it and it was from me
as you claim why do you call it "anonumus"? It would not be so if were
truly from me as headers would show and it actually had my signature!

What did you say in just another post about the "e-mail" above Yale? Your
own words again: "Perhaps you should ask your shrink about people who
write anonumus notes to others like:" It's ANONYMOUS Yale! You've said so!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=Ms1U4.3324%24v%255.238968%40newshog.newsread.com&rnum=1
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Subject: Re: Nradbury Goes Off the Deep End
Date: 2000/05/16
Message-ID: <Ms1U4.3324$v%5.23...@newshog.newsread.com>

(Exact quote for the record)

" I think you need a good psychiatirc examination. Perhaps you should ask
your shrink about people who write anonumus notes to others like: " You
are just as much of a filthy little cock sucker vermin as your butt buddy
Jeff Brown. You have to rely on out of context quotes and character
assassination. It would be a pleasure to see someone slowly work you over
with an ice pick Yale!""

No headers and no signature.

I guess the above is fair proof that Yale likes to forge e-mail even if it
is in his word "anonumus."

>> Your failure to do the same is noted. And will be by the judge.
>> --YFE

~~End of GOOGLE Archive Excerpt (With updated GOOGLE links)~~

PERJURY!!

REMEMBER ALL OF THE ABOVE CRIMINAL FALSIFICATION CAME FROM A BASTARD WHO HAS
ALREADY BEEN PUBLICLY CENSURED BY THE HIGHEST COURT IN HIS STATE!!

I.E.

http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attdiscdcd.php?id=40290
(Link active October 29, 2003. Archived locally as: shyster_censured)

Attorney ID - 40290
Edeiken, Yale F.
Pennsylvania Supreme Court Attorney Inquiry
Attorney ID Case County District
40290 122 DB 95 Lehigh II Public Censure Administered 10/20/98
^^^^^^^^^
<STOP>

A PDF file is available which gives a report on the above
122 DB 95 against Shyster Yale Fatso Edeiken:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attopinion.php?case=122DB95
^^^^^^^
http://www.courts.state.pa.us/OpPosting/disciplinaryboard/dboardopinions/122DB95.RPT.pdf
(Link active October 28, 2003. Archived locally as: "Edeiken_Gets_His" and
122DB95.RPT)

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

Care to comment on those real forgeries you stupid pig?

>Sara


>
>-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
>is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
>you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!

Notice I called Art Tandy a lying Jew Bastard (which he is) AFTER I had my fill


of his continual verbal abuse! I guess you expect me to not respond to such
abuse in the manner I did which is another reason why Jews are despised. Most
people hate double standards!

The above exchange was a result of this:
<start/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ple4cv8432qih0sft30s5tqi7junbkc0c3%404ax.com&rnum=4
Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish ...
Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
References: <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
On 13 May 2003 21:18:58 -0700, <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
tar...@indystart.com (knight57) wrote:

><deleted unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named
>Fatbury Scumbag>

My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call is all


a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong you dirty filthy

lying Jew bastard! <END>
------------------------
Rather than dealing in facts your Jew decided he would rather engage in
name calling and chose to ignore my proofs and it is all fully documented here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rtasbv05mohed914ktef95j9dh3kc11dmr%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy in Denial About Who The Main Gun Grabbers Are!
Message-ID: <rtasbv05mohed914k...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=kf6dcv8pgph2v568bnlhda66md7d4q8bg0%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy's Fellow Jews Are Trying to Extend Their Gun Control!
Message-ID: <kf6dcv8pgph2v568b...@4ax.com>
<end/quote>

>-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and


>the bulk of my posts prove so!

Still TRUE and my original postings as a whole are not personal attacks!


The greater majority of Art Tandy's posts are name calling and personal
attacks which seems to be a very common method of reply by Jews and their
gentile USEFUL IDIOTS!

>You can't discern the difference.


>BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.

Who called names first? It is Okay for Jews to hurl abuse in post after post but


when the recipient gets tired of it and calls the bastard a KIKE then you think
it is ironic or hypocritical. If you Jews don't like being called kikes, swine,
vermin etc, then STOP calling everyone you can't refute names!

> --Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above

No, there is no irony. I will call you obnoxious Jews what you are every time


I've had my abundant fill of your Chutzpa or name calling! If you don't want me
to call you and your fellow Christ Denying Pharisees KIKES or Lying Jew
Bastards/Bitches in reply to your kind's continual insults hurled at me then you
should stop with the name calling! Plain and simple!! Even Sara Salzman who
confessed to being mentally retarded should understand the concept!
~~Sara Salzman on record as admitting she's retarded?~~
On 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT, Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
"How many times do I have to tell you-- I AM RETARDED!!!"
<catamont-548CA8...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=catamont-548CA8.19314906072003%40spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net&output=gplain
Date: 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT
References: <hjihgvss1ujfegiai...@4ax.com>

Need I say more about Jewish double standards and hypocrisy?

From: (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Edeiken v. Bradbury: Affidavit
Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A2.01
Last-Modified: 2001/02/07

AFFIDAVIT
I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows:

[...]

15. That Daylin Leach refused to act to halt the campaign of harassment
and stated that if Deponent wished to avoid such harassment, that she
should "stop bothering" Defendant Bradbury...
16. That in response to her complaint and concerns for the safety of
her immediate and extended family, Daylin Leach informed Deponent that she
was a "crackpot"... <END>

Now get a life you hysterical crackpot and stop bothering me!

Tavish

Sara Salzman

unread,
Dec 11, 2003, 8:20:58 AM12/11/03
to
In article <omfgtvgjfib62mkvl...@4ax.com>,
Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:52:04 -0700,
> <catamont-4CB041...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
> <cata...@concentric.net> (who keeps making my argument that Jews such as her
> and her cronies are Children of the Devil [The Father of Lies]) wrote:
>
>
> >In article <j4ietv4cj534m8ldd...@4ax.com>,
> > Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Now go fist your fat twat you homely repulsive lying bitch and please do
> >> keep
> >> proving my point about how Jews are hypocritical, deluded, and deceitful!
> >> You
> >> are only hurting your own cause!
> >>
> >
> >So nice that Mr. Bradbury doesn't engage in name-calling or personal
> >attacks.
>
> You expect me to put up with YOUR abuse, YOUR lies, and YOUR defamation
> without
> letting the world know what sort of a vile and downright nasty and repulsive
> "crackpot" woman you are when you keep running your mouth? You expect way too
> much of me!
>
> >[FORGED, ALTERED POSTS DELETED]
>
> FORGED, ALTERED!? I did no such thing you lying pig! Those are YOUR posts so
> I
> did not forge them! THAT IS FACT!


No it isn't. One of your cronies sent them to you and said there were in
the google archives. But they aren't, are they?

1) The headers are incomplete. If these were legit, the headers would
incude THE DATE. But they don't, do they? BECAUSE THEY WERE ALTERED.

2) There is no such person as Sara "The Fist" Salzman. You altered all
the things you post to include that, and then removed it again when you
realized you were caught FORGING that into the header.

It's really quite simple. You forged and altered the headers.

But more important, you continue to slobber all over alt.conspiracy,
alt.fan.g-gordon-liddy, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
alt.politics.nationalism.white, alt.politics.usa.republican,
alt.revisionism, and soc.culture.usa with things that are totally
off-topic and inappropriate for these newsgroups.

You, who are so upset about what YOU consider "perverted" are FORCING
people who have no interest in your sexual fixations to read posts that
belong in the alt.sex hierachy, NOT in revisionism, or politics, or
soc.culture groups.

WHO is the pervert, Mr. Bradbury?

Umm... YOU are.

Sara


[500 lines of drivel deleted]

--

-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!

-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and

the bulk of my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference.


BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.

Joebruno

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Dec 11, 2003, 10:08:01 AM12/11/03
to
Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote in message news:<lhjetvok455fttq7u...@4ax.com>...

From MacBeth:

'Tis a tale told by and idiot
Full of Sound and fury
Signifying nothing

Yuri Tavishinski

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Dec 11, 2003, 11:31:04 AM12/11/03
to
From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism

Subject: Re: It's Official---Tavish is THE Antichrist
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
References: <6b3bfd67.03120...@posting.google.com>
<ra39tv456v27fc559...@4ax.com>
<catamont-508B41...@news-60.giganews.com>
<9v0atvgosrfaa8r1g...@4ax.com>
<catamont-94AE90...@news-60.giganews.com>
<vupdtv0u4eirnln71...@4ax.com>
<catamont-196CD7...@news-60.giganews.com>
<j4ietv4cj534m8ldd...@4ax.com>
<catamont-4CB041...@news-60.giganews.com>
<omfgtvgjfib62mkvl...@4ax.com>

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:20:58 -0700,
<catamont-A5678F...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman


<cata...@concentric.net> (who keeps making my argument that Jews such as her
and her cronies are Children of the Devil [The Father of Lies]) wrote:

>In article <omfgtvgjfib62mkvl...@4ax.com>,


> Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:52:04 -0700,
>> <catamont-4CB041...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
>> <cata...@concentric.net> (who keeps making my argument that Jews such as her
>> and her cronies are Children of the Devil [The Father of Lies]) wrote:
>>
>>
>> >In article <j4ietv4cj534m8ldd...@4ax.com>,
>> > Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Now go fist your fat twat you homely repulsive lying bitch and please do
>> >> keep proving my point about how Jews are hypocritical, deluded, and deceitful!
>> >> You are only hurting your own cause!
>> >>
>> >
>> >So nice that Mr. Bradbury doesn't engage in name-calling or personal
>> >attacks.
>>
>> You expect me to put up with YOUR abuse, YOUR lies, and YOUR defamation
>> without letting the world know what sort of a vile and downright nasty and repulsive
>> "crackpot" woman you are when you keep running your mouth? You expect way too
>> much of me!
>>
>> >[FORGED, ALTERED POSTS DELETED]
>>
>> FORGED, ALTERED!? I did no such thing you lying pig! Those are YOUR posts so
>> I did not forge them! THAT IS FACT!
>
>
>No it isn't. One of your cronies sent them to you and said there were in
>the google archives.

FALSE!! No one sent therm to me! They were in GOOGLE archives and I had actually
downloaded them and saved them and even gave the GOOGLE links for them as well
and posted them as such!

I.E.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=aa0d1ucdf9q9mlc9sla5ng7pvgt59oru59%404ax.com&rnum=3
From: T-A-V <RemoveAllHYPH...@ix.ne-tc-om.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Google expands it's base and reveals Sara even more!!
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:05:00 -0600
Organization: none
Lines: 155
Message-ID: <aa0d1ucdf9q9mlc9s...@4ax.com>
References: <qctc1uo4s3qdov4m7...@4ax.com>
Reply-To:
RemoveAllHYPH...@ix.ne-tc-om.comUSE-NUMBER-INSTEADtavishFORTY-EIGHT@ix.netcom.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: c7.ae.00.f8
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Server-Date: 11 Dec 2001 22:04:30 GMT
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:08:36 -0500, <qctc1uo4s3qdov4m7...@4ax.com>
Mike Kalvatis <mkal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com

For a fact that Message ID yields:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com&num=20&hl=en
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 114
Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p21.infinet.com

My Master holds the rope just so.

He knows me. Knows my moods. Knows the fear behind my eyes, both real and
imagined.

Those eyes widen as he gently lays the rope down, as he carefully,
methodically, systematically, lays the toys down on the bed.

Soft moans escape from behind gagged lips. I have been told to watch.
To see each and know that soon each will touch me.

He looks up briefly as he lays each down on the bed. Checking reactions.
Watching.

The short whip. A sigh.
The deerskin. The suede.

The small braided thong, the one that stings. A short moan.

The horsehair that stings but never marks.

The canes. The paddles. A pause.

I wait, knowing.

The small velvet bag that holds clamps. Clamps too severe for my breasts,
yet applied anyway.

A gasp. And then his smile.

He knows me. He knows I will take the pain to please him. He knows the
sacrifice I make to his Gods of Pain. He sees the torment in my eyes. The
desire to please. The love. The fear of the pain.

My Master holds the rope just so.

Through his fingers, around my wrists, making delicate rings softer than
steel. Stronger than steel. One on each wrist, a gentle bracelet that is
soon pulled tight, stretched to the bedposts and wrapped tightly. One on
each ankle. No matter how I tighten my muscles as he wraps the rope, still
it is perfectly tight. The circulation moves.
The ankle does not.

I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts.

But first, two small wooden clothespins bob before my eyes. I turn my
head, remember I am instructed to watch, turn back. The clothespins bite
the delicate flesh of each nipple. Grasp. Sting. Burn. He waits.

My Master knows me. Knows he can whip me, clothespins and all. Knows the
pain, where it will hurt the most, what I can and cannot take.
He waits.

The burning increases as the pins are removed. Ah, he will not whip me
with clothespins in place. But the moment when I was unsure, when the
blood pounded in my temples and the fear covered me like a shroud, then he
watched my eyes.

The whip falls. Which one is it now? I cannot turn my head to see which he
reaches for. But I know them all. I arch my back, try to stay still.

My Master knows me. Knows I will hold position as long as possible, before
the pain forces me to writhe, to turn, to try in vain to shield my
breasts. Knows the moment when I can no longer stay still. And precisely
then, says gently, "Don't move."

My Master holds the rope just so. Gently tugging at the knots, to release
arms and legs from bondage. Gently unwraps each wrist, each ankle. Rubs
each, and kisses the places where the rope has left its mark. The gag is
removed. I swallow.

"Kneel."

I crouch on the bed, head down, ass up, as he mounts the bed behind me.
His hands caress my ass softly, then spank sharply. Slowly, quickly, his
hand falls upon my ass. I wait for the moment, the pain/pleasure as he
will enter me. But not yet. First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he
marks the place the cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to
hold position, knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.

Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins to
subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."

Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."

Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his
cock, but from pain alone. My body responds without hesitation. My
pleasure is screamed out for his pleasure.

Later, I will feel his cock inside me. I will feel the force as he thrusts
deep into me, bruising the tender flesh with his strength. Later I will
come, and come, and come, but only by his command. Later, we will lie
back, exhausted, as he cradles me in his arms, strokes me gently, whispers
in my ear.

But not yet.

Now he rises from the bed, returns to the toys so carefully laid out before me.

My Master holds the rope just so.

(c) 1994 Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
PLEASE DO NOT REPOST WITHOUT PERMISSION

--
Go ahead, take the moral high ground. All that divine backlighting makes an
excellent target.

~~End of EXACT and Precise GOOGLE Archive~~

I will make sure the counsel sees the above and anymore if you find them when I
take that filthy pig to task for all of her false accusations she made against
me in a court of law!

That G.D. pig's chickens are coming home to roost and I hope she gets her
favorite "chicken plucker" to come to her aid (Yale F. Edeiken).

Thanks for proving what a dirty filthy pig she is. Thanks a lot.
If you saw her "complaints" against me she made me out to be immoral but look
ate her! What a G.D. filthy pig!

Watch the pig now claim that the above was forged by one of us!

Doc Tavish

~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

Notice the date!
I also archived it locally as: SarasWit

This archive reflects the same BUT I guess you will say I fabricated it today
and some how had it transported back in time!!

http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=ji1d1uchvhovhq0vc...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
From: T-A-V <RemoveAllHYPH...@ix.ne-tc-om.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Google expands it's base and reveals Sara even more!!
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:53:44 -0600
Message-ID: <ji1d1uchvhovhq0vc...@4ax.com>

Notice the date!
I also archived it locally as: SarasWit2

Proof you NUKED the articles:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=dpak1u4jnnfbko0d00fcgeptobvshq24mm%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Re: Tavish's Hypocrisy
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:39:25 -0600
Message-ID: <dpak1u4jnnfbko0d0...@4ax.com>
Excerpt

Regarding your subject title and your false accusations:
1) I quoted what Sara said in full context. You, Sara, Yale, and others did NOT
quote me in context and I will show the two examples you cite below in their
full context and even give all the headers and the URL so everyone may verify
them.
2) I gave the complete headers and even the URL so everyone could verify what
she posted. You din't do the same for what you attribute to me.

[...]

Now as promised- Sara Salzman if full context so everyone can compare her S&M
fantasies and fist f*cking to my replies to people who were harassing me:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com&num=20&hl=en
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
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Web Images Groups Directory

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~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=6&selm=sschwartz-1102952319440001%40p01.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com


Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Fist Fucking

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Date: 12 Feb 95 04:19:44 GMT
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Web Images Groups Directory

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~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=7&selm=sschwartz-1102950819070001%40p14.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com


Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Fist fucking (1)

Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p14.infinet.com>
Date: 11 Feb 95 13:19:07 GMT
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~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

As of this date (December 13, 2001) those three links I gave above no longer
work and my first two conclusions are (ranked in the power of what I believe to
be the case):
1) Sara Salzman wrote an e-mail to GOOGLE's and demanded that all her S&M
bondage fantasies to <alt.sex.bondage> be NUKED and thus she is a "revisionist"
and a "denier" by seeking to change history and deny it ever happened!!!
2) GOOGLE's archives is having a problem at this time BUT I noticed that other
material of hers appears from 1995!

I can only conclude Sara Salzman had the articles NUKED and now she will forever
deny they ever existed and all of her pals will join in her "revisionism" and
"denial." If people like Sara are so dishonest about what happened six years ago
then why on Earth should anyone ever believe these people about anything else
and the obvious dishonesty I've proved in this post about what was sworn in a
court of law should drive the point home even more! Sara and her fellow vermin
are "Natural Born Liars!"

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

Notice the date!
I also archived it locally as: SaraNukes

Notice the date the above was posted! I guess you will say I invented the two
posts above to refute your current lie you are trying to foist now but notice I
had great foresight when I stated in 2001: "I can only conclude Sara Salzman had
the articles NUKED and now she will forever deny they ever existed and all of
her pals will join in her "revisionism" and "denial." If people like Sara are so
dishonest about what happened six years ago then why on Earth should anyone ever
believe these people about anything else.."

Now does everyone know why I have adopted the policy of doing such as this:

http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/1996/219621.shtml
(Link active June 27, 2003. Archived locally as: 219621)

I do it precisely for the reason to prove such existed when people such as Sara
try to revise history!!

>No it isn't. One of your cronies sent them to you and said there were in
>the google archives. But they aren't, are they?

BECAUSE YOU HAD THEM NUKED YOU LYING PIG!!!!!!

I have news for you- you lying pig bitch-- I had the foresight to archive them
all BEFORE your fat ass nuked them!! I have the FORGED CANCELS against my posts
pointing out your S&M posts archived in my AGENT program as well! Your pals were
forge canceling my posts pointing out your S&M porn writings and my giving
GOOGLE links so they could be verified!!! Keep denying it you god damned pig and
I will keep rubbing your pig nose in your shit!!!!

This pretty clinches the fact that you are lying. If the posts had not existed
and if they were fabrications then why did you say what you said in this post?

http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=catamont-EF986E...@news.concentric.net&lr=&hl=en
From: Sara <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Don Lies Yet Again
Date: 14 Dec 2001 00:42:32 GMT
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In article <ALaS7.6858$Xs4.7...@feed.centurytel.net>, "GassenBurnham"
<cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:

> "John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> news:85sh1u0plvtdksk44...@4ax.com...
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > In <8S1S7.6801$Xs4.7...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism, on
> > Thu, 13 Dec 2001 07:34:50 -0600, "GassenBurnham"
> > <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > I believe McVay is connected to her ring of Masters. This whole
> > > matter goes much deeper than Sara and Cougar, because several
> > > people here are too quick in defending Sara. Plus the victim status
> > > Sara desires so much is all part of the S&M theme. I fell her
> > > children are in serious emotional and physical danger from possible
> > > viewing and partaking in these sexual perversions.
> >
> > This sick shit has gone far enough, cut it out whoever you
> > are asshole.
>
> I agree, it has gone far enough. As adults and parents it is our
> obligation to fight child abuse...whoever's child it may be. Unlike you Morris, we
> refuse to shove our heads up our ass and ignore the dangers these
> children are exposed each and every day. I've already had one expert look over
> Sara's file, she believes the children are in grave danger...and some type of
> intervention is necessary. The only 'assholes' here are people like you
> who has the chance to stop the horrors these children must endure each
> day...yet you refuse. Don't you dare criticize David Michael for his comments on
> the 9/11...David didn't have the opportunity to stop it from happening....but
> you have the opportunity, yet refuse. You're a sorry excuse for a human
> being.

You're a liar, Don, and you always have been.

Nothing you say changes that. You have a vile history of lying and
harassing, and the worst you think you can do to me is resurrect
6-year-old fantasy posts and pretend outrage.

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

How could Don "resurrect 6-year-old fantasy posts" which you are now trying to
convince everyone never existed? See how easy it is to catch you Jewish pigs in
your lies and diversions!?

Notice the date!
I also archived it locally as: SaraAdmits

I followed the above up with:

From: Bob Scott <t-a-v-...@ix.ne-tco-m.co-m-RemoveHyphensToMail>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Don Lies Yet Again
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:40:01 -0600
Organization: none
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Message-ID: <riak1usuo1dc0bok1...@4ax.com>
References: <20011213023746...@mb-cs.aol.com>
<8S1S7.6801$Xs4.7...@feed.centurytel.net>
<85sh1u0plvtdksk44...@4ax.com>
<ALaS7.6858$Xs4.7...@feed.centurytel.net>
<catamont-EF986E...@news.concentric.net>

On 14 Dec 2001 00:42:32 GMT,
<catamont-EF986E...@news.concentric.net> Sara
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

>In article <ALaS7.6858$Xs4.7...@feed.centurytel.net>, "GassenBurnham"
><cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:

>You're a liar, Don, and you always have been.
>
>Nothing you say changes that. You have a vile history of lying and
>harassing, and the worst you think you can do to me is resurrect
>6-year-old fantasy posts and pretend outrage.

So you're admitting those "6-year-old fantasy posts" exist! Strange that they
aren't at GOOGLE's anymore! It appears that you had them NUKED so who is the
liar now? YOU- YOU PIG! Only the original author (upon proof) was able to NUKE
DejaCom's archives and I'd imagine that GOOGLE has the same policy! Thanks for
admitting you HAD "6-year-old fantasy posts" you lying dirty pig!

BTW your statement: "the worst you think you can do to me is resurrect
6-year-old fantasy posts and pretend outrage.." is hypocritical you filthy
perjurious pig! You were quoted in full context BUT those old posts you and
Edeiken used against me in a malicious prosecution weren't in context. The posts
resurrected about you were in full context and only posted to USENET on the
other hand my posts were presented as "evidence" in a court of law and were
definitely out of context! Care to deny it you filthy disgusting pig?

Doc Tavish
>Sara

~~End of Locally Archived Post~~

Just one more:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=6ukl1u0trn1hv645ased6rr7tkggnbkkje%404ax.com&rnum=10
From: P_R_I_V_A_T_E--C_I_T_Z_E_N
<t-a-v-...@ix.ne-tco-m.co-m-RemoveHyphensToMail>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Poll: Should we let up on Sara (even though we are telling the
truth) ??
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 22:48:05 -0600
Message-ID: <6ukl1u0trn1hv645a...@4ax.com>
References: <hqcf1u85gqjvufo9k...@4ax.com>
<u4df1uc52v7c2aa0m...@4ax.com>
<catamont-D34A17...@news.concentric.net>

On 12 Dec 2001 20:35:49 GMT, Sara <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

>In article <u4df1uc52v7c2aa0m...@4ax.com>,
>tavi...@ix.netcom.com wrote:

>
>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:45:24 -0500,
>> <hqcf1u85gqjvufo9k...@4ax.com>
>> Mike Kalvatis <mkal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Here are both sides
>> >
>> >1) Sara deserves this because of all the harassment she has spewed to
>> >others and she would do the same to her enemies given the chance
>>
>> You better believe she would do the same! She and the shyster Edeiken
>> didn't even quote my posts in context which they submitted to a civil court!
>> Sara didn't let her father see those Bruno posts in full context either BUT
>> Leon Salzman will see Sara's in full context by next week! That is a fact
>> Jack!
>> And YES- Sara deserves all that she has coming to her! Eye for eye, tooth
>> for tooth and what goes around comes around!
:
>What a surprise! Mr. "Personal Attack is All You Have" never lets us
>down.

How are showing you posts in full context "personal attack"? I showed your posts
in true context which you and Yale did not do with mine!

>I do hope Mr. Bradbury follows through on his threat to send mail to my
>father. Sending unsolicited, sexually-explicit mail

So is this your admission that YOUR posts were "sexually-explicit"?

> is a felony, and he will be prosecuted immediately upon my father's
>receipt of it. The Colorado Bureau of Investigation has already
>received a copy of Mr. Bradbury's threat, and is looking forward to
>investigating it.

Colorado has no jurisdiction over me and how on Earth have I threatened your
father? Are you saying that your writings were so bad that letting him see what
his daughter wrote concerning her fantasies is threatening him? My but you're a
dumb foul pig!

>(So nice of Mr. Bradbury to include a return receipt... it lets the Postal
>Inspection Service know exactly where to look for him.)

He should see them by this coming Tuesday too!

>> I am going to make sure Leon Salzman gets copies so he may
>> know what a pervert he has for a daughter before he dies!
:.
>And your explanation of the difference between your "Bruno" fantasies
>and anyone else's fantasies is ... ?

I was replying to people who were anonymously harassing me BUT you penned
masochistic fantasies about having your boobies whipped by "The Master" to an
alt.sex.bondage news group!

BIG DIFFERENCE BUT A DIRTY PIG LIKE YOU CAN'T SEE IT!

I sent Leon the photographic quality versions of those GOOGLE web pages which I
saved. I had a premonition a pig like you would NUKE those articles and be a
"revisionists and a denier" but enough other posts exist which proved you posted
such and you didn't deny posting them either!

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

Notice the date!
I also archived it locally as: NukedNot
It also archived in my AGENT program along with other proofs you're a liar!

Notice my prophetic words I stated back then you fat little lying squealing pig?
I stated: "..the photographic quality versions of those GOOGLE web pages which I
saved. I had a premonition a pig like you would NUKE those articles and be a
"revisionists and a denier" but enough other posts exist which proved you posted
such and you didn't deny posting them either!"

Care to stick to you lie which I faultlessly exposed as being such which was/is:

I replied to you denial with:


>> FORGED, ALTERED!? I did no such thing you lying pig! Those are YOUR posts so
>> I did not forge them! THAT IS FACT!
>

(You currently lie and deny with):


>No it isn't. One of your cronies sent them to you and said there were in
>the google archives.

Looks like you have been exposed as being a liar!

>
>1) The headers are incomplete. If these were legit, the headers would
>incude THE DATE. But they don't, do they?

The posts are legit and having a date doesn't make them legit nor does the lack
of a date make them illegitimate! Your damage control is very poor Sara "The
Fist" Salzman!

>BECAUSE THEY WERE ALTERED.

If you want to really complain about altered headers and out right forgeries
which were criminal perjury then why do you remain mute on these real examples:

>2) There is no such person as Sara "The Fist" Salzman. You altered all

>the things you post to include that, and then removed it again when you
>realized you were caught FORGING that into the header.

You caught me at nothing you squealing pig! Show one post where anyone claimed
YOU gave yourself that nickname! We, the people who are god damned tired of your
lies, gave you that nickname!

BTW the FORGER is the kike bastard you assisted in a failed lawsuit against me
and I already gave examples of that lying kike bastard's lies just above! Want
me to post more you dirty lying whore? I can and you know it!

>It's really quite simple. You forged and altered the headers.
>
>But more important, you continue to slobber all over alt.conspiracy,
>alt.fan.g-gordon-liddy, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
>alt.politics.nationalism.white, alt.politics.usa.republican,
>alt.revisionism, and soc.culture.usa with things that are totally
>off-topic and inappropriate for these newsgroups.

I restored those news groups so everyone who as been watching can see more
evidence how Jews lie and how they operate when they have been slam dunked
again and again!

>You, who are so upset about what YOU consider "perverted" are FORCING
>people who have no interest in your sexual fixations to read posts that
>belong in the alt.sex hierachy, NOT in revisionism, or politics, or
>soc.culture groups.

Those people may have an interest in seeing some of that Kike Chutzpa you shits
toss when you're caught red handed lying out your asses!

>WHO is the pervert, Mr. Bradbury?

YOU ARE YOU GOD DAMNED PIG!!

>Umm... YOU are.
>
>Sara
>
>
>[500 lines of drivel deleted]

Can't refute solid documented fact can you Your Fattress!
Sara "The Fist" Salzman: Quintessential homeliness in the flesh:
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/2/image.gif <Sitting and authoring S&M<
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif <Standing Medusa look<

Attention lurkers here is the archival link to what I posted and which the lying
pig is running from in her denial:
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=omfgtvgjfib62mkvl...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en

Need I sa more other than watch Sara continually make an ass of herself trying
to deny the irrefutable!
Tavish

--Dean Wormer's advice would apply to Sara "The Fist" Salzman
"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life..."
Dean Wormer to Flounder in the movie _Animal House_
http://www.uselessmoviequotes.com/umq_a005.htm
(Archived locally as: FatDrunk)
wav file archived=sarafatdrunk
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=apbjcvg26ov1u9lf2ombh65t8depv2btg7%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Did Sara "The Fist" Salzman's S&M/Drug HomeLife Result in Two "GIFTED"
Children? I.E. Genetics/Lifestyles?...
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 00:13:21 -0500
Message-ID: <apbjcvg26ov1u9lf2...@4ax.com>
Sara "The Fist" Salzman: Quintessential homeliness in the flesh:
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/2/image.gif <Sitting and authoring S&M<
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif <Standing Medusa look<

Yuri Tavishinski

unread,
Dec 11, 2003, 11:44:28 AM12/11/03
to
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:49:25 -0700,
<catamont-CAFC0B...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

>Sara
>


>-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
>is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
>you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!

Notice I called Art Tandy a lying Jew Bastard (which he is) AFTER I had my fill


of his continual verbal abuse! I guess you expect me to not respond to such
abuse in the manner I did which is another reason why Jews are despised. Most
people hate double standards!

The above exchange was a result of this:
<start/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ple4cv8432qih0sft30s5tqi7junbkc0c3%404ax.com&rnum=4
Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish ...
Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
References: <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
On 13 May 2003 21:18:58 -0700, <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
tar...@indystart.com (knight57) wrote:

><deleted unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named
>Fatbury Scumbag>

My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call is all


a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong you dirty filthy

lying Jew bastard! <END>
------------------------
Rather than dealing in facts your Jew decided he would rather engage in
name calling and chose to ignore my proofs and it is all fully documented here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rtasbv05mohed914ktef95j9dh3kc11dmr%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy in Denial About Who The Main Gun Grabbers Are!
Message-ID: <rtasbv05mohed914k...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=kf6dcv8pgph2v568bnlhda66md7d4q8bg0%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy's Fellow Jews Are Trying to Extend Their Gun Control!
Message-ID: <kf6dcv8pgph2v568b...@4ax.com>
<end/quote>

>-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and


>the bulk of my posts prove so!

Still TRUE and my original postings as a whole are not personal attacks!


The greater majority of Art Tandy's posts are name calling and personal
attacks which seems to be a very common method of reply by Jews and their
gentile USEFUL IDIOTS!

>You can't discern the difference.


>BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.

Who called names first? It is Okay for Jews to hurl abuse in post after post but


when the recipient gets tired of it and calls the bastard a KIKE then you think
it is ironic or hypocritical. If you Jews don't like being called kikes, swine,
vermin etc, then STOP calling everyone you can't refute names!

> --Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above

No, there is no irony. I will call you obnoxious Jews what you are every time


I've had my abundant fill of your Chutzpa or name calling! If you don't want me
to call you and your fellow Christ Denying Pharisees KIKES or Lying Jew
Bastards/Bitches in reply to your kind's continual insults hurled at me then you
should stop with the name calling! Plain and simple!! Even Sara Salzman who
confessed to being mentally retarded should understand the concept!
~~Sara Salzman on record as admitting she's retarded?~~
On 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT, Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
"How many times do I have to tell you-- I AM RETARDED!!!"
<catamont-548CA8...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=catamont-548CA8.19314906072003%40spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net&output=gplain
Date: 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT
References: <hjihgvss1ujfegiai...@4ax.com>

Need I say more about Jewish double standards and hypocrisy?

Tavish

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rqbetvcbda7er4vl25008qo2uetssudk52%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism V3.0d
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:53:59 -0600
Message-ID: <rqbetvcbda7er4vl2...@4ax.com>

Sara Salzman

unread,
Dec 11, 2003, 1:16:30 PM12/11/03
to
In article <p31htvgo6jmaqjq2f...@4ax.com>,
Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote:


Really? With no dates? No other information?

You're a liar.

And once again, you continue to lie by re-posting copyrighted material.

At least this time you've finally admitted that these posts were dated
EIGHT YEARS AGO.

>
> (c) 1994 Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
> PLEASE DO NOT REPOST WITHOUT PERMISSION
>

>

> >No it isn't. One of your cronies sent them to you and said there were in
> >the google archives. But they aren't, are they?
>
> BECAUSE YOU HAD THEM NUKED YOU LYING PIG!!!!!!
>
> I have news for you- you lying pig bitch-- I had the foresight to archive
> them
> all BEFORE your fat ass nuked them!! I have the FORGED CANCELS against my
> posts
> pointing out your S&M posts archived in my AGENT program as well! Your pals
> were
> forge canceling my posts pointing out your S&M porn writings and my giving
> GOOGLE links so they could be verified!!! Keep denying it you god damned pig
> and
> I will keep rubbing your pig nose in your shit!!!!

[delete Mr. Bradbury's constant spewing of off-topic garbage. I am not
Yale Edeiken and I have nothing to do with him.

Of course, by re-posting a lot of this old stuff, he is demonstrating
how he and his pals threatened me, and threatened my father:
>


>
> >> I am going to make sure Leon Salzman gets copies so he may
> >> know what a pervert he has for a daughter before he dies!

>
> >


> >1) The headers are incomplete. If these were legit, the headers would
> >incude THE DATE. But they don't, do they?
>
> The posts are legit and having a date doesn't make them legit nor does the
> lack
> of a date make them illegitimate! Your damage control is very poor Sara "The
> Fist" Salzman!
>
> >BECAUSE THEY WERE ALTERED.
>

[*yawn*]



>
> >2) There is no such person as Sara "The Fist" Salzman. You altered all
> >the things you post to include that, and then removed it again when you
> >realized you were caught FORGING that into the header.
>
> You caught me at nothing you squealing pig! Show one post where anyone
> claimed
> YOU gave yourself that nickname! We, the people who are god damned tired of
> your
> lies, gave you that nickname!

"We" means Scott Bradbury, the name who doesn't engage in personal
attacks.

You're delusional. Why would I EVER claim that I gave myself the
offensive nickname that YOU plastered all over the Internet?

>
> >It's really quite simple. You forged and altered the headers.
> >
> >But more important, you continue to slobber all over alt.conspiracy,
> >alt.fan.g-gordon-liddy, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
> >alt.politics.nationalism.white, alt.politics.usa.republican,
> >alt.revisionism, and soc.culture.usa with things that are totally
> >off-topic and inappropriate for these newsgroups.
>
> I restored those news groups so everyone who as been watching can see more
> evidence how Jews lie and how they operate when they have been slam dunked
> again and again!

In other words, you are continuing to post inappropriate material to
newsgroups where they don't belong. And considering how many times you
have done so, I'd say anyone you're trying to reach has already seen
everything you've posted -- hundreds of times.


>
> >You, who are so upset about what YOU consider "perverted" are FORCING
> >people who have no interest in your sexual fixations to read posts that
> >belong in the alt.sex hierachy, NOT in revisionism, or politics, or
> >soc.culture groups.
>
> Those people may have an interest in seeing some of that Kike Chutzpa you
> shits
> toss when you're caught red handed lying out your asses!
>

The only one "red-handed" is the one who uses his hand instead of a
loving, consensual partner, Mr. Bradbury. Get a new hobby.

> >WHO is the pervert, Mr. Bradbury?
>
> YOU ARE YOU GOD DAMNED PIG!!
>
> >Umm... YOU are.
> >
> >Sara
> >

No, but thanks for proving yet again what a nutcase you are.

Sara

Yuri Tavishinski

unread,
Dec 11, 2003, 5:24:57 PM12/11/03
to
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:16:30 -0700,
<catamont-6514CB...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

>In article <p31htvgo6jmaqjq2f...@4ax.com>,
> Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote:
>
>
>> >> >In article <j4ietv4cj534m8ldd...@4ax.com>,
>> >> > Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Now go fist your fat twat you homely repulsive lying bitch and please
>> >> >> do keep proving my point about how Jews are hypocritical, deluded, and
>> >> >> deceitful! You are only hurting your own cause!
>> >> >
>> >> >So nice that Mr. Bradbury doesn't engage in name-calling or personal
>> >> >attacks.
>> >>
>> >> You expect me to put up with YOUR abuse, YOUR lies, and YOUR defamation
>> >> without letting the world know what sort of a vile and downright nasty and
>> >> repulsive "crackpot" woman you are when you keep running your mouth? You expect
>> >> way too much of me!
>> >>
>> >> >[FORGED, ALTERED POSTS DELETED]
>> >>
>> >> FORGED, ALTERED!? I did no such thing you lying pig! Those are YOUR posts
>> >> so I did not forge them! THAT IS FACT!
>> >
>> >No it isn't. One of your cronies sent them to you and said there were in
>> >the google archives.
>>

>> FALSE!! No one sent them to me! They were in GOOGLE archives and I had

>> actually downloaded them and saved them and even gave the GOOGLE links
>> for them as well and posted them as such!
>
>
>Really? With no dates? No other information?

I gave all and you deleted it in your vain attempt to cover your lies!

>You're a liar.
>
>And once again, you continue to lie by re-posting copyrighted material.

I could I repost copyrighted material if it does not exist!? Who would the
holder be? Here is the copyright notice and who claimed it:

The above was from a post I show further down with these headers:


For a fact that Message ID yields:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com&num=20&hl=en
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 114
Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p21.infinet.com

My Master holds the rope just so...

(c) 1994 Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
PLEASE DO NOT REPOST WITHOUT PERMISSION

~~End of Partial Citing of Sara "The Fist" Salzman's Masterwork~~

BTW the GOOGLE link which did point to the post which you NUKED was posted
numerous times in the past:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+%22http://groups.google.com/groups%3Fas_q%3D%2520%26as_umsgid%3Dsschwartz-0502951449120001%40p21.infinet.com%26num%3D20%26hl%3Den%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0
Searched Groups for
"http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com&num=20&hl=en".
Results 1 - 43 of 43

I would hardly believe a link to a non-existing post would have been posted that
many times and as I have already proven-- the post existed and you NUKED it
which makes you a liar!

Who is on record as admitting to posting as: ssch...@infinet.com
Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect <ssch...@infinet.com>?

Answer: YOU!!!

My irrefutable proofs:

(Archived locally as: Re_Double Standard)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=catamont-5FB93B.10103425042002%40news.concentric.net&rnum=1


From: Sara <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism

Subject: Re: Double Standard?
Date: 25 Apr 2002 16:10:36 GMT
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
Message-ID: <catamont-5FB93B...@news.concentric.net>

In article <ORDx8.430$6y.3...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>, "Voice of
Reason" <voiceo...@blakely.harrogate.net> wrote:

> Sara used to post as Purrrfect One...

Liar. Never used that name. You've got me confused with someone else,
Father of Lies.

[...]

> or Sara Salzman

Yep. That's my name. I've been using it all my life, except for the time
I was married to my first husband. At that time, I used the name

> or Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect

the "aka Perrrfect" part, if it's any of your business..

~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~

The above proves that Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> posted
as Sara aka Perrrfect.

Sara Salzman also confessed being Sara Schwartz as shown here:

(Archived locally as: Sara Schwartz_Salzman)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=catamont-2504982055590001%40ts008d17.den-co.concentric.net&rnum=1
From: cata...@concentric.net (Sara Salzman)
Subject: Re: Sara Schwartz/Salzman's _Je T'Accuse!_ (was: Jewish Ritual Murder)
Date: 1998/04/25
Message-ID: <catamont-250...@ts008d17.den-co.concentric.net>#1/1
References: <6gjtl1$f...@basement.replay.com>
<6glfrb$5...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <352E51...@earthlink.net>
<6gojdv$e...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <35311...@news.total.net>
<6gum6v$2...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <3533e...@news.total.net>
<6h1brv$b...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <3538c...@news.total.net>
<6hk9ue$fiu$1...@cnn.cc.biu.ac.il>
<catamont-220...@ts005d04.lon-co.concentric.net>
<353ff...@news.total.net>
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism

Mr. Sabatini:

First of all, I'm curious why you felt it necessray to re-name the subject
of this thread. Yes, I used to be Sara Schwartz, when I was married. I
divorced Mr. Schwartz and returned to the use of my maiden name. (Sorry
Gord, I *did* remarry tho... :)

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

And here you are Sara "The Fist" Salzman proving the post you NUKED had in fact
existed:

(Archived locally as: BizarreSara)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=catamont-52E981.09191330042002%40news.concentric.net&rnum=2
From: Sara <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,
Subject: Re: The Bizarre behavior of Sara Salzman
Date: 30 Apr 2002 15:19:14 GMT
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
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In article <7b1tcu41mqb6vsncg...@4ax.com>, Voice of
Reason <voiceo...@blakely.DELETEharrogate.net> wrote:

> On 30 Apr 2002 03:01:36 GMT, Sara "The Fist" Salzman
> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
> <deletia from manic rantings>
>
> One defender of child abuse lying another child abuser.
>
> Fact:

Lie

> Sara Salzman post sexual torture and bondage stories for little kids
> to read. An example of her writings: This is when she was Sara
> Schwartz before dumping that husband for the superman Aryan she brags
> out. What a piece of garbage.


>
> From: ssch...@infinet.com
> Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage,
> Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
> Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500

Fantasy fiction.

> It is things like this and many more why we call her Psycho Sara
>
> --
> Pat
>

Bizarre cross-postings removed.

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

On almost everything Pat Blakely accused you of doing and claimed as fact you
replied with "LIE" yet when he cited your famous "My Master Holds The Ropes Just
So (poem)" you replied with: "Fantasy fiction." YET now you are implying this
now:

You did in fact accuse:
>> >> >[FORGED, ALTERED POSTS DELETED]

I answered with:


>> >> FORGED, ALTERED!? I did no such thing you lying pig! Those are YOUR posts
>> >> so I did not forge them! THAT IS FACT!

You lied again with:


>> >No it isn't. One of your cronies sent them to you and said there were in
>> >the google archives.

I have proven what I stated below as being true again!
>> FALSE!! No one sent them to me! They were in GOOGLE archives and I had

>> actually downloaded them and saved them and even gave the GOOGLE links for
>> them as well and posted them as such!

You are a stupid liar and you mimic McVay's words:

"[W]hen you're living a lie, the lie has to get more complicated-they're always
contradicting themselves...so that the lie itself becomes self-evident."
-- Ken McVay, director of the Nizkor Project
http://www.peacemagazine.org/fulltext/all-vol13no2.html
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: peacenik13_2)

What Sara "The Fist" Salzman deleted to cover her fat ass:

~~~~~~~~<START>~~~~~~~~~

>No it isn't. One of your cronies sent them to you and said there were in
>the google archives.

FALSE!! No one sent them to me! They were in GOOGLE archives and I had actually


downloaded them and saved them and even gave the GOOGLE links for them as well
and posted them as such!

I.E.

I wait, knowing.

"Kneel."

But not yet.

(c) 1994 Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect


PLEASE DO NOT REPOST WITHOUT PERMISSION

--

Doc Tavish

[...]

>No it isn't. One of your cronies sent them to you and said there were in

>the google archives. But they aren't, are they?

BECAUSE YOU HAD THEM NUKED YOU LYING PIG!!!!!!

I have news for you- you lying pig bitch-- I had the foresight to archive them
all BEFORE your fat ass nuked them!! I have the FORGED CANCELS against my posts
pointing out your S&M posts archived in my AGENT program as well! Your pals were
forge canceling my posts pointing out your S&M porn writings and my giving
GOOGLE links so they could be verified!!! Keep denying it you god damned pig and
I will keep rubbing your pig nose in your shit!!!!

This pretty clinches the fact that you are lying. If the posts had not existed

Doc Tavish
>Sara

Just one more:

>> I am going to make sure Leon Salzman gets copies so he may

>> know what a pervert he has for a daughter before he dies!

:.
>And your explanation of the difference between your "Bruno" fantasies
>and anyone else's fantasies is ... ?

I was replying to people who were anonymously harassing me BUT you penned
masochistic fantasies about having your boobies whipped by "The Master" to an
alt.sex.bondage news group!

BIG DIFFERENCE BUT A DIRTY PIG LIKE YOU CAN'T SEE IT!

I sent Leon the photographic quality versions of those GOOGLE web pages which I
saved. I had a premonition a pig like you would NUKE those articles and be a
"revisionists and a denier" but enough other posts exist which proved you posted
such and you didn't deny posting them either!

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

Notice the date!
I also archived it locally as: NukedNot
It also archived in my AGENT program along with other proofs you're a liar!

Notice my prophetic words I stated back then you fat little lying squealing pig?
I stated: "..the photographic quality versions of those GOOGLE web pages which I
saved. I had a premonition a pig like you would NUKE those articles and be a
"revisionists and a denier" but enough other posts exist which proved you posted
such and you didn't deny posting them either!"

Care to stick to your lie which I faultlessly exposed as being such which
was/is:

I replied to you denial with:

>> FORGED, ALTERED!? I did no such thing you lying pig! Those are YOUR posts so
>> I did not forge them! THAT IS FACT!
>

(You currently lie and deny with):

>No it isn't. One of your cronies sent them to you and said there were in
>the google archives.

Looks like you have been exposed as being a liar!

~~~~~~~~~~~~<STOP>~~~~~~~~~~~~

>At least this time you've finally admitted that these posts were dated
>EIGHT YEARS AGO.

Are you now admitting they exist or are you sticking to your current lie?

>> (c) 1994 Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
>> PLEASE DO NOT REPOST WITHOUT PERMISSION
>>
>> >No it isn't. One of your cronies sent them to you and said there were in
>> >the google archives. But they aren't, are they?
>>
>> BECAUSE YOU HAD THEM NUKED YOU LYING PIG!!!!!!
>>
>> I have news for you- you lying pig bitch-- I had the foresight to archive
>> them all BEFORE your fat ass nuked them!! I have the FORGED CANCELS against my
>> posts pointing out your S&M posts archived in my AGENT program as well! Your pals
>> were forge canceling my posts pointing out your S&M porn writings and my giving
>> GOOGLE links so they could be verified!!! Keep denying it you god damned pig
>> and I will keep rubbing your pig nose in your shit!!!!
>
>[delete Mr. Bradbury's constant spewing of off-topic garbage. I am not
>Yale Edeiken and I have nothing to do with him.

You lied when you said: "I have nothing to do with him."- you made perjurious
statements in his lawsuit 1999-C-2786 against me in which he also perjured
himself. Perjury is a criminal offense!

Here is what the pig deleted:

>BECAUSE THEY WERE ALTERED.

>Of course, by re-posting a lot of this old stuff, he is demonstrating

>how he and his pals threatened me, and threatened my father:

How were your OR your father threatened you stupid pig!?

>> >> I am going to make sure Leon Salzman gets copies so he may
>> >> know what a pervert he has for a daughter before he dies!
>> >
>> >1) The headers are incomplete. If these were legit, the headers would
>> >incude THE DATE. But they don't, do they?
>>
>> The posts are legit and having a date doesn't make them legit nor does the
>> lack of a date make them illegitimate! Your damage control is very poor Sara "The
>> Fist" Salzman!
>>
>> >BECAUSE THEY WERE ALTERED.
>>
>[*yawn*]

Can't deal with facts so you delete them.

>> >2) There is no such person as Sara "The Fist" Salzman. You altered all
>> >the things you post to include that, and then removed it again when you
>> >realized you were caught FORGING that into the header.
>>
>> You caught me at nothing you squealing pig! Show one post where anyone
>> claimed YOU gave yourself that nickname! We, the people who are god damned tired of
>> your lies, gave you that nickname!
>
>"We" means Scott Bradbury, the name who doesn't engage in personal
>attacks.

Other people have called you Sara "The Fist" Salzman! Care to deny it you lying
grunting pig? BTW exposing a bitch who defames people and lies is not making
personal attacks!

>You're delusional. Why would I EVER claim that I gave myself the
>offensive nickname that YOU plastered all over the Internet?

Once again: I am not the only one who has called you Sara "The Fist" Salzman!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=7b1tcu41mqb6vsncgb7f3n1ntokoftute7%404ax.com&rnum=3
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,misc.transport.road,dfw.singles
Subject: The Bizarre behavior of Sara Salzman
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On 30 Apr 2002 03:01:36 GMT, Sara "The Fist" Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

<deletia from manic rantings>

Fact

Sara Salzman post sexual torture and bondage stories for little kids
to read. An example of her writings: This is when she was Sara
Schwartz before dumping that husband for the superman Aryan she brags
out. What a piece of garbage.

From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage,
Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 114
Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p21.infinet.com

My Master holds the rope just so.

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

Notice the date? Notice the poster? Notice the content? I do believe it was Pat
Blakely who endeared you with the proper name of Sara "The Fist" Salzman!!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=catamont-39B078.18320315062002%40nntp.concentric.net&rnum=8
From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.sex.stories
Subject: Re: Sara Salzman and her prize winning stories
Date: 16 Jun 2002 00:32:08 GMT
Message-ID: <catamont-39B078...@nntp.concentric.net>

In article <ukmngukfnkfdrs16o...@4ax.com>,
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>

> In <RJ6DQTU33742...@Nyarlatheotep-frog.org> in
> alt.revisionism, on 15 Jun 2002 22:56:06 -0000, Frog3
> <FrogRe...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> > by Sara "the fist" Salzman
>
> Oh gosh, was poor Pat Blakely justly ridiculed as a fool again?
>
> [temper tantrum snipped]
>
> - --

I assume so. It's his usual modus operandi. Whenever I make him TILT, he
tried to "retaliate" like this.

He's SO easy to TILT.

Sara

~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~

You're the one who is TILTING and lying out your FISTED ass!

Any careful GOOGLE search will show other people than Pat Blakely and I calling
you Sara "The Fist" Salzman and here is a good starting point seeing how you
think I am the only one who calls you "The Fist":

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+%22Sara+The+Fist+Salzman%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=15&as_maxm=1&as_maxy=2002&filter=0

IOW- in your case: "If the fist fits then shove it where the sun don't shine!"

>> >It's really quite simple. You forged and altered the headers.
>> >
>> >But more important, you continue to slobber all over alt.conspiracy,
>> >alt.fan.g-gordon-liddy, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
>> >alt.politics.nationalism.white, alt.politics.usa.republican,
>> >alt.revisionism, and soc.culture.usa with things that are totally
>> >off-topic and inappropriate for these newsgroups.
>>
>> I restored those news groups so everyone who as been watching can see more
>> evidence how Jews lie and how they operate when they have been slam dunked
>> again and again!
>
>In other words, you are continuing to post inappropriate material to
>newsgroups where they don't belong.

It's NOT inappropriate seeing how it is used to prove that you are a
pathological liar! If I was posting such for amusement then perhaps you would
have a point BUT seeing how you are now denying posting such and have been
proven to be a liar then it is very appropriate! YOUR CREDIBILITY IS ZILCH!!

> And considering how many times you have done so, I'd say anyone you're trying to
> reach has already seen everything you've posted -- hundreds of times.

You are the one who posts stuff hundreds of times such as your version of what I
posted and which you butchered and show in a deceitful manner:

You have posted the following unfair distortion about 956 times according to
GOOGLE:

--
-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!
-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and
the bulk of my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference.
BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.
--Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+%22Scott+Bradbury,+who+completely+misses+the+irony+of+the+above+%22+author:catamont%40concentric.net&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0
Searched Groups for "Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the
above " author:cata...@concentric.net. Results 1 - 100 of about 956

I counter your distorted version of a two way exchange with:

<start/quote>

>Sara


>
>-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
>is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
>you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!

Notice I called Art Tandy a lying Jew Bastard (which he is) AFTER I had my fill


of his continual verbal abuse! I guess you expect me to not respond to such
abuse in the manner I did which is another reason why Jews are despised. Most
people hate double standards!

The above exchange was a result of this:
<start/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ple4cv8432qih0sft30s5tqi7junbkc0c3%404ax.com&rnum=4
Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish ...
Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
References: <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
On 13 May 2003 21:18:58 -0700, <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
tar...@indystart.com (knight57) wrote:

><deleted unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named
>Fatbury Scumbag>

My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call is all


a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong you dirty filthy

lying Jew bastard! <END>
------------------------
Rather than dealing in facts your Jew decided he would rather engage in
name calling and chose to ignore my proofs and it is all fully documented here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rtasbv05mohed914ktef95j9dh3kc11dmr%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy in Denial About Who The Main Gun Grabbers Are!
Message-ID: <rtasbv05mohed914k...@4ax.com>

Date: 11 May 2003 11:35:17 GMT (Archived as: AJT1)


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=kf6dcv8pgph2v568bnlhda66md7d4q8bg0%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy's Fellow Jews Are Trying to Extend Their Gun Control!
Message-ID: <kf6dcv8pgph2v568b...@4ax.com>

Date: 11 May 2003 11:35:17 GMT (Archived as: AJT2)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ple4cv8432qih0sft30s5tqi7junbkc0c3%404ax.com&rnum=4
Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish (Classic Repost from January 17,
1997) Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
Date: 14 May 2003 13:23:47 GMT (Archived as: AJT3)
<end/quote>

>-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and
>the bulk of my posts prove so!

Still TRUE and my original postings as a whole are not personal attacks!


The greater majority of Art Tandy's posts are name calling and personal
attacks which seems to be a very common method of reply by Jews and their

gentile USEFUL IDIOTS! Anyone reading the above three archives will see me
presenting many documented facts and in every case Art Tandy would reply
with: "I deny it, you ignorant fat piece of lying shit.. You are a fat lying
ignorant fuck.. Fatboy Turns Blind and runs Away from the Issue.. I am
telling the TRUTH, something you cannot do very well, fatscum.. That
doesn't prove all Jews support gun control, you fucking moron. Your
logic is ridiculous and you are a stupid degenerate lowlife... <deleted


unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named Fatbury Scumbag>"

>You can't discern the difference.


>BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.

Who called names first? It is Okay for Jews to hurl abuse in post after post but


when the recipient gets tired of it and calls the bastard a KIKE then you think
it is ironic or hypocritical. If you Jews don't like being called kikes, swine,
vermin etc, then STOP calling everyone you can't refute names!

> --Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above

No, there is no irony. I will call you obnoxious Jews what you are every time


I've had my abundant fill of your Chutzpa or name calling! If you don't want me
to call you and your fellow Christ Denying Pharisees KIKES or Lying Jew
Bastards/Bitches in reply to your kind's continual insults hurled at me then you
should stop with the name calling! Plain and simple!!

<end/quote>

-----

Sure I called your fellow loud mouth obnoxious Jew a "Lying Jew bastard" and a
"KIKE" but ONLY after he kept hurling abuse at me and calling me a liar and at
the same time deleting my proofs! My proofs were so solid your pal couldn't
refute them so he continued to engage in name call and personal attacks and
anyone who reads the associated archives will see I exercised restraint!!



>> >You, who are so upset about what YOU consider "perverted" are FORCING
>> >people who have no interest in your sexual fixations

MY sexual fantasies? They were yours you lying Jew bitch! Stop trying to pass
your depravity off on me you disgusting pig liar!

>> to read posts that belong in the alt.sex hierachy, NOT in revisionism, or
>> politics, or soc.culture groups.
>>
>> Those people may have an interest in seeing some of that Kike Chutzpa you
>> shits toss when you're caught red handed lying out your asses!
>>
>
>The only one "red-handed" is the one who uses his hand instead of a
>loving, consensual partner, Mr. Bradbury. Get a new hobby.

Personal attacks does not refute the fact you lied about your S&M posts and
their existence!

>> >WHO is the pervert, Mr. Bradbury?
>>
>> YOU ARE YOU GOD DAMNED PIG!!
>>
>> >Umm... YOU are.
>> >
>> >Sara
>> >
>
>No, but thanks for proving yet again what a nutcase you are.

The nutcase is you and you even testified in a sworn statement my attorney
called you a "crackpot!" Are you now going to say I made this up too!?

From: (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Edeiken v. Bradbury: Affidavit
Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A2.01
Last-Modified: 2001/02/07

AFFIDAVIT
I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows:

[...]

15. That Daylin Leach refused to act to halt the campaign of harassment
and stated that if Deponent wished to avoid such harassment, that she
should "stop bothering" Defendant Bradbury...
16. That in response to her complaint and concerns for the safety of
her immediate and extended family, Daylin Leach informed Deponent that she
was a "crackpot"... <END>

>Sara

You are the one who makes personal attacks instead of proving what I posted and
which proves you lied about your postings is false!

Now go fist yourself!

Tavish

Sara Salzman aka Sara "The Fist" Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> did post:
From: ssch...@infinet.com Sara Schwartz

Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Fist Fucking

:
By the way... Elbow Grease IS WATER SOLUABLE.
Says so right on the label.
We've found for MANY things, it is "wetter" and slicker than KY.
Your mileage may, of course, vary.
Perrrfect
--
It never rains under my umbrella
~~End~~

Sara Salzman aka Sara "The Fist" Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> did post:
From: ssch...@infinet.com Sara Schwartz

Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Fist fucking (1)

In article <3hg9a1$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, lant...@aol.com (L
Antoniou) wrote:
> Perhaps you should read the messages before responding. If you read all
> of mine, you will see that eventually I do suggest the "duck" position -
> all fingers together. What I (and Elf) was responding to was the
> suggestion that one *begin* fisting in that position. Of course, you go
> on to say *exactly that*.
In fact, Laura, I did NOT say you should begin in the "duck" position. I
just stated that it was the eventual position to achieve.
I'm sorry if I did not make that clear in my post. I *did* state that fist
fucking was not something I had done very often, and merely wanted to
impart my own (limited) experience. <END>
Imagine the person in these photos assuming the "duck" position
and "fisting" herself!
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/2/image.gif
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=s70dcvgs3eucqd31n81gqo5e21uj7vvg67%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Sara "The Fist" Salzman - A Compilation of Her Better Known Literary
Works and Opinions
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 13:35:49 -0500
Message-ID: <s70dcvgs3eucqd31n...@4ax.com>

_______________________________________________________________________________

Sara Salzman

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Dec 11, 2003, 6:58:31 PM12/11/03
to
In article <haihtvg8t3vv379bv...@4ax.com>,
Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote:

> I sent Leon the photographic quality versions of those GOOGLE web pages which
> I
> saved. I had a premonition a pig like you would NUKE those articles and be a
> "revisionists and a denier" but enough other posts exist which proved you
> posted
> such and you didn't deny posting them either!


Thanks again for admitting you harassed my father.

You just don't know when to quit, do you?

Sara

Chris C. Larson

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Dec 11, 2003, 9:27:56 PM12/11/03
to
Doc Tavish <Doc_T...@TAVISH-AMERICAN-CENTRAL.NET> wrote in message news:<ra39tv456v27fc559...@4ax.com>...

> On 7 Dec 2003 17:57:06 -0800, <6b3bfd67.03120...@posting.google.com>
> larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson) wrote:
>
> >From: larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson)
> >Subject: It's Official---Tavish is THE Antichrist
>
> Can't refute me so you make personal attacks-- how Pharisee of you!

Do you even know what a Pharisee is?

> >Doc Tavish <Doc_T...@TAVISH-AMERICAN-CENTRAL.NET> wrote in message news:<vaa6tv4vsot465jnr...@4ax.com>...

> Why do you keep deleting what I post and then attacking me instead of refuting
> my post's content?

Who could give a shit what you post? So posting something from the
internet is gospel for you? (and other antichrists like David
Michael?)

> >Ever heard of the Ten Commandments?
>
> First Century Christians were released from The Law and its Ten Commandments as
> the archive I provided proved scripturally- which you chose to ignore!
> What the Bible plainly states and what anyone who reads it can plainly see! You
> choose to remain obstinate and ignorant as well!

So, the 99%+ of us Christians who practice true Christianity
(Judeo-Christian) (now go ahead and insert line that the Jews made up
Judeo-Christianity), are wrong?

> I am not The antichrist YET you are the one who embraces the
original
> anti-Christs which have already been identified.

You have not yet proved that you are not. Embraces? I look at Jews at
face value- normal folk. I'll judge people by how they treat others,
not from what some delusional nutburger (a Rush Limbaugh term),like
you says I should believe.

> >When you begin to study Christianity, you will find that the
> >Antichrist concept is singular, which is you.
>
> You know nothing of the Bible and anti-Christs are many!

OK then, so it's you and Michael-anyone else?

> confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
> antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never

Please stop defaming Christ. Thanks.

> THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER FROM THE PHARISEES TO BETRAY JESUS!!!!!

30??? I got screwed- they only gave me 28.

> >This in not a topic for discussion, you ARE THE antichrist. Accept
it.
>
> YOU'RE WILLFULLY IGNORANT AND YOU ARE A LIAR WHICH MAKES YOU WICKED!

CALLING ME NAMES- IS THAT ALL YOUR KIND HAS????

> >> >By the way Mr. Tavish, (the flaming antichrist), when are you going to
> >> >name just one U.S. Jew, who is a member of the Communist party.
> >>
> >> When are you going to stop denying communism was conceived and implemented by
> >> Jews?
> >
> >Again, "I rest my case" as you cannot meet my challenge (again)
>
> What challenge? All you did is run you mouth and throw insults.

Again, here it is in black and white:
name just one U.S. Jew, who is a member of the Communist party.

Tavish?????, Scotty?????, Tav??????, Doc?????
Hello??? Are you still there?

Yuri Tavishinski

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Dec 12, 2003, 10:01:30 AM12/12/03
to
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:59:20 -0600
From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.fan.g-gordon-liddy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.usa.republican,
alt.revisionism,soc.culture.usa

Subject: Re: It's Official---Tavish is THE Antichrist
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
References: <catamont-94AE90...@news-60.giganews.com><catamont-A5678F...@news-60.giganews.com>
<p31htvgo6jmaqjq2f...@4ax.com>
<catamont-6514CB...@news-60.giganews.com>
<haihtvg8t3vv379bv...@4ax.com>
User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:58:31 -0700
Message-ID: <catamont-072D97...@news-60.giganews.com>

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:58:31 -0700,
<catamont-072D97...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

>In article <haihtvg8t3vv379bv...@4ax.com>,
> Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote:
>
>> I sent Leon the photographic quality versions of those GOOGLE web pages which
>> I saved. I had a premonition a pig like you would NUKE those articles and be a
>> "revisionists and a denier" but enough other posts exist which proved you
>> posted such and you didn't deny posting them either!
>
>
>Thanks again for admitting you harassed my father.

How did I harass your father? If you want to whine about that then why did you
get your father to comment on "your versions" of my postings and then post his
alleged comments in public forum? You made your father part of the equation and
if I were to be defamed on account of an opinion of a person who has never
personally examined me then it is my right to have him make comments on your S&M
torture posts! Any fair minded person would not even consider that to be
harassment you god damned bitch!

Care to deny you posted this smear?

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=catamont-1505002252290001%40ts016d19.den-co.concentric.net&rnum=3
From: cata...@concentric.net (Sara Salzman)
Subject: Bradbury's Documented Obsessive Compulsive Mental Disorder Shown to All
Date: 2000/05/16
Message-ID: <catamont-150...@ts016d19.den-co.concentric.net>
References: <Orac-D7447A.1...@news.earthlink.net>
<20000515180408...@ng-ff1.aol.com> <8fq6e...@news1.newsguy.com>
<183U4.3340$v%5.24...@newshog.newsread.com> <3920c888....@news.flash.net>


Organization: Concentric Internet Services
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism

In article <3920c888....@news.flash.net>,
doc_t...@NOSPAMmy-deja.com drooled:

[snip the usual re-post of Bradbury's halucinatory spew]

>Only an obsessive compulsive person would repeat the following over 90
>times. You have a mental disorder Yale! Also you should not be implying
>that I have a diseased mind either!
>

Ah, but Mr. Bradbury, I *HAVE* shown your public utterings to a
world-famous psychiatrist. He's a Professor Emeritus at Georgetown U
Medical School, former Chairman of the Dept. of Psychiatry at Tulane U
Med. School, former president of the American Psychoanalytic Assn,
founding member of the Washington School of Psychiatry, former Director of
Bronx State Psychiatric Hospital, author of a number of medical texts on
Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, and Nobel Prize nominee.

And he certainly agrees with Yale's assessment of the state of your
diseased mind.

Especially when all you seem capable of these days is "squealing sow" comments.

As many of us have said before, seek help. Professional help.

Sara

~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

Archived locally as: SaraLibel and SaraLibel2)

My posts were replies to people who were e-mail bombing me, making death
threats, forging posts in my identity, and libeling me which both YOU and Yale
only showed words I posted but conveniently left out what I was replying to!
On the other hand your posts were about sexual self gratification and having
your tits whipped and your fat ass probed and caned! Care to deny you lying
perjurious piece of shit?

I have it all documented in this archive so everyone can see what a god damned
lying pig you truly are!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=20licv4ua1ceur4iqrk6ttvt4ktcrbuc22%404ax.com&rnum=3
Subject: Sara "The Fist" Salzman Won't Quote Me in Context BUT I Quote Her in
Full Context!! Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 17:01:57 -0500
Message-ID: <20licv4ua1ceur4iq...@4ax.com>

As for your libel: "he certainly agrees with Yale's assessment of the state of
your diseased mind" you father is agreeing with a pathological liar who submits
fabricated evidence to civil courts (which is a criminal act) and has received
PUBLIC CENSURE by the Disciplinary Board of the Supreme Court of the State of
Pennsylvania!

My proofs:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=&selm=3bmv4vc9u4kh2qs4v84aek0qsbfhb5eul8%404ax.com
Subject: Test this, David Michael aka Ken McVay's "Edeiken-v-Bradbury.C1" Is
Filled With Lies and Perjury...
Message-ID: <3bmv4vc9u4kh2qs4v...@4ax.com>

AND

http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attdiscdcd.php?id=40290
(Link active October 29, 2003. Archived locally as: shyster_censured)

Attorney ID - 40290
Edeiken, Yale F.
Pennsylvania Supreme Court Attorney Inquiry
Attorney ID Case County District
40290 122 DB 95 Lehigh II Public Censure Administered 10/20/98
^^^^^^^^^
<STOP>

A PDF file is available which gives a report on the above
122 DB 95 against Shyster Yale Fatso Edeiken:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attopinion.php?case=122DB95
^^^^^^^
http://www.courts.state.pa.us/OpPosting/disciplinaryboard/dboardopinions/122DB95.RPT.pdf
(Link active October 28, 2003. Archived locally as: "Edeiken_Gets_His" and
122DB95.RPT)

BTW don't forget the very bastard who accused me of being "mentally diseased"
made this confession about himself in public forum:

Special Note: Yale F. Edeiken Esq. of Allentown, Pennsylvania- Supreme Court
ID# 40290 has falsely asserted he was associated with the two law firms
mentioned below-- Todd Miller & Associates and Trainor Law Offices. Both law
firms told me first hand that Yale F. Edeiken was never an attorney at their
firms!! That is fact!

(Archived locally as: YaleTheNut)
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=SH9g7.634%247d....@newshog.newsread.com&lr=&hl=en


From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>

Subject: Re: The Common Thread To All These Cancel Announcements...
Message-ID: <SH9g7.634$7d.2...@newshog.newsread.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:06:26 GMT

Defendant Bradshit <rdoc_...@my-deja.cpm, tavi...@ix.netcom,com> wrote
in message news:7lp1otkrsh37k7ioi...@4ax.com...

[...]

> Care to tell all of us why both Todd Miller and Paul Trainor distanced
> themselves from you

Because they were dealing with someone who was "mentally unstable"
(their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again, their description) who they
wanted to go away as quckly as possible.

~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~

And most certainly never forget the kike who accused me of being "mentally
diseased" also had a meltdown and went berserk in a rampage in an elevator at
his own county's courthouse elevator where he even shoved a deputy sheriff
around YET that nut accuses me of being "mentally diseased"?

Read about it here folks:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rhi7cvsotqaj3t6btide56jdi44odj5oip%404ax.com&rnum=3&filter=0
Subject: Edeikook Follies #6 Yale F. Edeiken Goes on a Rampage at His County
Courthouse
Message-ID: <rhi7cvsotqaj3t6bt...@4ax.com>
Date: 15 May 2003 17:11:06 GMT

I also noticed you did the same libel against another person as well!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=catamont-1804991837190001%40ts013d38.den-co.concentric.net&rnum=2
From: cata...@concentric.net (Sara Salzman)
Subject: Psychiatric evaluation of Mr. Moron
Date: 1999/04/18
Message-ID: <catamont-180...@ts013d38.den-co.concentric.net>


Organization: Concentric Internet Services
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism

I spoke with a rather well-known psychiatrist (extremely well-known in
psychiatric circles, not as well with the general public) about Mr. Moron
and his proclivity for speaking of himself in the third person.

The CV of this psychiatrist includes: Founding the Washington School of
Psychiatry; authoring a number of books on Human Sexuality,
Obsessive-Compulsive Behavior and other topics; former President of the
American Psychoanalytic Association; former Chairman of the Dept. Of
Psychiatry at Tulane University; Professor Emeritus at Georgetown Medical
School, and a lot more.

After reading some of Mr. Moron's posts randomly accessed from ar, I asked
this psychiatrist what he would call someone like Mr. Moron. His response
was:

"Don't bother, but if you must, call him a schizophrenic incurable
asshole."

I's say that about sums it up.

Sara

~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

Archived locally as: SaraLibel3 and SaraLibel4)

You made your father part of the equation when you used his status to defame
people you don't like! THAT IS FACT YOU BITCH!!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=393C3068.9FFC0A73%40variousisps.co.uk&rnum=1
From: "david.e.michael" <david.e...@variousisps.co.uk>
Subject: Re: 1800 R St NW is not Leon Salzman's address
Date: 2000/06/05
Message-ID: <393C3068...@variousisps.co.uk>#1/1
References: <095faa96...@usw-ex0108-063.remarq.com>
<393BF5F5...@variousisps.co.uk> <8hh000$74q$1...@news101.telia.com>
<Orac-DC6C22.1...@news.earthlink.net> <8hh0j7$7cn$1...@news101.telia.com>
<bc2ojs0mmnv1mhn7g...@4ax.com>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Jun 2000 22:55:03 GMT

John Morris wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>

> In <8hh0j7$7cn$1...@news101.telia.com> in alt.revisionism, on Mon, 5 Jun
> 2000 21:55:32 +0200, "The Last Rebel" <kinky...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote in message
> >news:Orac-DC6C22.1...@news.earthlink.net...
> >> In article <8hh000$74q$1...@news101.telia.com>, "The Last Rebel"
> >> <kinky...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Who is Leon to Sara???
>
> >> Why would it matter to you?
>
> >So, I can follow what's going on in the NG, if it's O.K. with you!
>
> Okay. Leon is Sara's father. David Michael posted his address and
> telephone number to faclitate Don Ellis's continuing harassment of
> Sara and her family.
>
> - --
> John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
> at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>

As usual, Mr Morris has left out the important part.

Ms Sara Salzman published a highly defamatory attack on Mr Bradbury,
claiming that she had consulted an 'eminent psychiatrist' about his posts
and that this psychiatrist had stated that Mr Bradbury was suffering from
obsessive compulsive disorder.

To cut a long story short, the 'eminent psychiatrist' that Ms Salzman
consulted was . . . her own daddy, Dr Leon Salzman.

In order to expose this I had to provide evidence that Dr Leon Salzman was
indeed the 'eminent psychiatrist' to whom Sara Salzman was referring. This
entailed giving details of where he worked and resided.

Mr Morris and his fellow travellers are now having moral fits all over the
place about the fact that I identified Leon Salzman in order to try to
detract attention from the misleading and dishonest nature of Sara
Salzman's defamatory attack on Mr Bradbury.

Now I wonder why Mr Morris left all of that out.

Perhaps he is also 'anti-history'?

David

~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~

>You just don't know when to quit, do you?

Actually your father should be sued for malpractice if he in fact did what you
claim he did above!! Suing people for making defamatory "diagnosis" and allowing
his mentally disturbed and addicted to S&m Bondage torture s definitely
actionable! In guess I will follow through seeing how you won't shut your god
damned big libelous mouth!

BTW I notice how you have shifted the debate from the facts I caught you in
numerous lies in this thread and have now decided to accuse me of harassing your
father who is evidently unethical and unprofessional if he is in fact doing as
you claimed above!

Here are the archives of the two posts in this thread where you I resoundingly
proved you to be a pathological liar:

http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=p31htvgo6jmaqjq2f...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Date: 2003-12-11 08:31:12 PST

http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=haihtvg8t3vv379bv...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Date: 2003-12-11 14:25:14 PST

Now that I proved you to be a liar you are now libeling by accusing me of
harassing your father who allegedly made an unethical diagnosis/opinion which
you made public and especially when I was never examined. Care to deny a doctor
could get sued and lose for engaging in such malpractice? Care to deny your
motive was to smear people and try to be credible in your evil smear!? People
are tired of your god damned lies and shit you pig!!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=catamont-CB3C60.19461428112000%40news.concentric.net&rnum=4
From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.abortion,alt.revisionism,alt.flame.niggers,alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: Re: So how many people have posted opponents personal details
Date: 29 Nov 2000 02:45:32 GMT
Message-ID: <catamont-CB3C60...@news.concentric.net>
"I showed Bradbury's posts to my father, an eminent psychiatrist, and
asked his opinion. (Note the word, Sparky, OPINION. Not diagnosis.
OPINION.)" (Archived locally as: SarasFather)

BTW you were caught lying through your lying libellous teeth by David Michael
too! If what you posted as your father's opinion isn't a diagnosis then why did
you title your smear post: "Bradbury's Documented Obsessive Compulsive Mental
Disorder Shown to All" If it was "documented"{ then that has to mean a diagnosis
was made! Where s the documentation and who authored it!?

The post I am referring to is this archive:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=catamont-1E0E9F.11565327112000%40news.concentric.net&rnum=1


From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism

Subject: "m" proves that he can neither read nor comprehend
Date: 27 Nov 2000 18:56:24 GMT
Message-ID: <catamont-1E0E9F...@news.concentric.net>
(Archived locally as: SarasBigMouth)
Excerpt

>Now look in the header of the post. What does it say? 'Obsessive compulsive
>mental disorder'. And what is the abbreviation of obsessive compulsive
>disorder? Why, none other than OCD.
>
>Miss Salzman said that OCD didn't come into it. But you can see that it
>did.
>
>She lied. And she's been caught again.

I can't believe you think everyone is as stupid as you, m. SHOW WHERE
THE "DIAGNOSIS" is OCD. It isn't. The doctor is an EXPERT in OCD, and he
AGREED with Yale's assessment.

There is NO DIAGNOSIS.
There is NO DIAGNOSIS OF OCD.

Thank you for providing the absolute proof that you are a liar, AND an
idiot.

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

You're the liar and idiot and your father can definitely be litigated for making
such libelous statements and then allowing his bitch daughter to post such! CARE
TO DENY IT WHORE? If I litigate Leon just think of it as me taking some of your
inheritance when I get a damages award!!!

Here are a some questions I bet you will dodge and they are simple questions!

1) Is fabricating evidence and submitting it to a civil court a criminal a
offense? Yes or No?

2) Is the following a criminal death threat? Yes or No?

From: "nazihunter"
Subject: WHY NOT GIVE THE NAZI SHITHEAD TAVISH A CALL
Date: 14 Dec 1999 00:00:00 GMT
X-Abuse-to: ab...@cotse.com
Organization: cotse
X-Abuse-goto: http://packetderm.cotse.com/cgi-bin/blockit.cgi
X-Comments: Anonymous mail2news gate web interface -
www.cotse.com/anonnews.htm.
X-Mail-To-News-Contact: ab...@zedz.net
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism

Anonymously posted.

The following is the address for Doc Tavish

Scott Bradbury
<address and telephone number deleted>

Why not call him and tell him what a nazi prick he is.
Better yet, why not visit him.......with a baseball bat.

<END>

3) Does my reply to the above prove I am violent? Yes or No?

Subject: Re: WHERE OR WHERE IS TAVISH - I'm standing behind you with my
Desert Eagle .50AE locked and loaded..
Date: 12/18/1999
Author: Tavish <doc_t...@NOSPAMmy-deja.com>

On 15-Dec-1999, "nazihunter" <anon...@cotse.com> wrote:

> It seems that ever since Tavish's address was published, he
> seems to have disappeared.
> Has he fled?
> Or, better yet, has someone paid him a visit?

I'm standing behind you with my Desert Eagle .50AE locked and loaded
slowly squeezing the trigger for an excellent one shot- one kill! :-)
Sleep on that a while "nazihunter."

Doc Tavish Knowing Time is on His Side

<END>

4) Is this not an admission the death threat cited in question 2) was made by
a person who made a sworn statement in a civil court that my reply to it as
cited in question 3) was threatening him personally as shown here:

51. On December 18, 1999, Defendant published the following
threat to Plaintiff:

Subject: Re: WHERE OR WHERE IS TAVISH - I'm standing behind you with my
Desert Eagle .50AE locked and loaded.. . . . . . . I'm standing behind you
with my Desert Eagle .50AE locked and loaded slowly squeezing the trigger
for an excellent one shot- one kill! :-) Sleep on that a whil
"nazihunter." Doc Tavish Knowing Time is on His Side"

Yes or No?

5) Is the plaintiff (who lost his lawsuit against me) who claimed my reply to an
anonymous post which posted my name, address, telephone number and stated: "Why
not call him and tell him what a nazi prick he is. Better yet, why not visit
him.......with a baseball bat." Yale F. Edeiken? Yes or No?

6) Did not the plaintiff implicate himself as being "nazihunter" who posted
numerous such death threats against me? Yes or No?

7) Is engaging in such practice a federal crime and warrants a prison sentence?
Yes or No?

8) If the plaintiff's local law enforcement establishment was made aware of the
above and refused to prosecute then is it reasonable to assume corruption?

9) If an attorney subpoenas a person's personal information from the victim's
ISP and engages in such acts should he still be allowed to practice law/retain
his license? Yes or No?

10) If the above was reported to the Attorney General of the attorney's home
state and the AG refused to take action then is it reasonable to assume
corruption? Yes or No?

11) If Yale wasn't "nazihunter" who posted death threats against me in December
1999 then can you explain why in his kook failed lawsuit against me that he was
threatened by my reply to "nazihunter" who did make death threats? Essay
question and not a simple Yes or No question!

Now everyone watch Sara Salzman run for cover!

>Sara


>
>-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
>is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
>you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!

Notice I called Art Tandy a lying Jew Bastard (which he is) AFTER I had my fill


of his continual verbal abuse! I guess you expect me to not respond to such
abuse in the manner I did which is another reason why Jews are despised. Most
people hate double standards!

The above exchange was a result of this:
<start/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ple4cv8432qih0sft30s5tqi7junbkc0c3%404ax.com&rnum=4
Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish ...
Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
References: <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
On 13 May 2003 21:18:58 -0700, <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
tar...@indystart.com (knight57) wrote:

><deleted unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named
>Fatbury Scumbag>

My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call is all


a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong you dirty filthy

lying Jew bastard! <END>
------------------------
Rather than dealing in facts your Jew decided he would rather engage in
name calling and chose to ignore my proofs and it is all fully documented here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rtasbv05mohed914ktef95j9dh3kc11dmr%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy in Denial About Who The Main Gun Grabbers Are!
Message-ID: <rtasbv05mohed914k...@4ax.com>
Date: 11 May 2003 11:35:17 GMT (Archived as: AJT1)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=kf6dcv8pgph2v568bnlhda66md7d4q8bg0%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy's Fellow Jews Are Trying to Extend Their Gun Control!
Message-ID: <kf6dcv8pgph2v568b...@4ax.com>
Date: 11 May 2003 11:35:17 GMT (Archived as: AJT2)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ple4cv8432qih0sft30s5tqi7junbkc0c3%404ax.com&rnum=4
Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish (Classic Repost from January 17,
1997) Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
Date: 14 May 2003 13:23:47 GMT (Archived as: AJT3)
<end/quote>

>-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and


>the bulk of my posts prove so!

Still TRUE and my original postings as a whole are not personal attacks!


The greater majority of Art Tandy's posts are name calling and personal
attacks which seems to be a very common method of reply by Jews and their
gentile USEFUL IDIOTS! Anyone reading the above three archives will see me
presenting many documented facts and in every case Art Tandy would reply
with: "I deny it, you ignorant fat piece of lying shit.. You are a fat lying
ignorant fuck.. Fatboy Turns Blind and runs Away from the Issue.. I am
telling the TRUTH, something you cannot do very well, fatscum.. That
doesn't prove all Jews support gun control, you fucking moron. Your
logic is ridiculous and you are a stupid degenerate lowlife... <deleted
unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named Fatbury Scumbag>"

>You can't discern the difference.


>BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.

Who called names first? It is Okay for Jews to hurl abuse in post after post but


when the recipient gets tired of it and calls the bastard a KIKE then you think
it is ironic or hypocritical. If you Jews don't like being called kikes, swine,
vermin etc, then STOP calling everyone you can't refute names!

> --Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above

No, there is no irony. I will call you obnoxious Jews what you are every time


I've had my abundant fill of your Chutzpa or name calling! If you don't want me
to call you and your fellow Christ Denying Pharisees KIKES or Lying Jew
Bastards/Bitches in reply to your kind's continual insults hurled at me then you
should stop with the name calling! Plain and simple!!

Tavish

Yuri Tavishinski

unread,
Dec 12, 2003, 11:35:47 AM12/12/03
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On 11 Dec 2003 18:27:56 -0800, <6b3bfd67.03121...@posting.google.com>

larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson) wrote:

http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=ra39tv456v27fc559...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en


>> On 7 Dec 2003 17:57:06 -0800, <6b3bfd67.03120...@posting.google.com>
>> larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson) wrote:
>>
>> >From: larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson)
>> >Subject: It's Official---Tavish is THE Antichrist
>>
>> Can't refute me so you make personal attacks-- how Pharisee of you!
>
>Do you even know what a Pharisee is?

Yes! An adherent to Judaism in the true sense and as a figure of speech-- anyone
who acts like one.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=1ioifv01joma9fjqpa361host2smg0un2n%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
(Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
Message-ID: <1ioifv01joma9fjqp...@4ax.com>

BTW Jesus did NOT practice Judaism! Judaism was the Pharisees' distortion of The
Law of Moses as proven in the above archive! Jesus did observe The Law of Moses
to put sin to death in the flesh and the New Covenant he brought AFTER his death
made null and void The Law with ALL of its trappings!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2fttrvo00fhaoi2f8ip%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Old Covenant Vs New -- New Covenant Replaces Old Covenant (Jews NO
Longer God's Chosen People & Entitled to "Israel" So Says the Scripture!)
Message-ID: <qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2f...@4ax.com>
Excerpt

Hebrews 8
6 But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant
of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, and it is founded on better
promises.
7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would
have been sought for another.
8 But God found fault with the people and said : "The time is coming, declares
the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the
house of Judah.
9 It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took
them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not remain faithful
to my covenant, and I turned away from them, declares the Lord.
10 This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time,
declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their
hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.
11 No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, `Know
the Lord,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the
greatest.
12 For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more."
13 By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete;

Hebrews 9
1 Now the first covenant had regulations for worship and also an earthly
sanctuary.
2 A tabernacle was set up. In its first room were the lampstand, the table
and the consecrated bread; this was called the Holy Place.
3 Behind the second curtain was a room called the Most Holy Place,

11 When Christ came as high priest of the good things that are already
here, he went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not
man-made, that is to say, not a part of this creation.
12 He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he
entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, having obtained
eternal redemption.
15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those
who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that he
has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the
first covenant.

Covenant of Moses (Law) done away with the Covenant of Christ (Faith).

Galatians 3
13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for
it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."
14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the
Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of
the Spirit.
15 Brothers, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set
aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in
this case.
16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not
say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one
person, who is Christ.
23 Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until
faith should be revealed.
24 So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified
by faith.
25 Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.

Galatians 4
21 Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law
says?
22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the
other by the free woman.
23 His son by the slave woman was born in the ordinary way; but his son by the
free woman was born as the result of a promise.
24 These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two
covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be
slaves: This is Hagar.
25 Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present
city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children.
26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother.

Galatians 5
1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not
let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.
2 Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised,
Christ will be of no value to you at all.
3 Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is
obligated to obey the whole law.
4 You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ;

<end>

Any clergy of Christendom who tries to get his flock to adhere to the law
violates what the scripture above teaches! Any clergy of Christendom who teaches
the Old Testament as proof Jews/Israel are The Chosen People ignore what the New
Testament/New Covenant teaches:

Romans 11
7 What then? What Israel sought so earnestly it did not obtain, but the elect
did. The others were hardened,
8 as it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes so that they could
not see and ears so that they could not hear, to this very day."
9 And David says: "May their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block
and a retribution for them.
10 May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see, and their backs be bent
forever."
11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all!
Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to
make Israel envious.
12 But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means
riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their fullness bring!

1 Peter 2
1 Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and
slander of every kind.
2 Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up
in your salvation,
3 now that you have tasted that the Lord is good.
4 As you come to him, the living Stone--rejected by men but chosen by God and
precious to him--
5 you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a
holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus
Christ.
6 For in Scripture it says: "See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious
cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."
7 Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not
believe, "The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone, "
8 and, "A stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall."
They stumble because they disobey the message--which is also what they were
destined for.
9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people
belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of
darkness into his wonderful light.

Who are God's Chosen People today Chris? Gentiles and Jews (who have accepted
Jesus as the Messiah which the Pharisaic Jews do not!).

>> >Doc Tavish <Doc_T...@TAVISH-AMERICAN-CENTRAL.NET> wrote in message news:
<vaa6tv4vsot465jnr...@4ax.com>...

http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=vaa6tv4vsot465jnr...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en

Clicking the link above will show what Chris Larson deleted unscathed.

>> Why do you keep deleting what I post and then attacking me instead of refuting
>> my post's content?
>
>Who could give a shit what you post?

IOW you can't refute what I post so you prefer instead to attack me with
insults! How Pharisee of you!

>So posting something from the internet is gospel for you?

I wasn't posting from the internet as you falsely claimed! I cited the Bible
which existed long before the internet!

>(and other antichrists like David Michael?)

Who are you to accuse him of such? He hasn't denied Jesus is the Messiah (to the
best of my knowledge) YET the people you side with do!

>> >Ever heard of the Ten Commandments?
>>
>> First Century Christians were released from The Law and its Ten Commandments as
>> the archive I provided proved scripturally- which you chose to ignore!
>> What the Bible plainly states and what anyone who reads it can plainly see! You
>> choose to remain obstinate and ignorant as well!
>
>So, the 99%+ of us Christians who practice true Christianity
>(Judeo-Christian)

There is NO such thing as Judeo-Christianity! If there were such it would have
been taught by the 1st Century Christians who broke off all alliances with
Judaism and its practices as the Apostle Paul did as well as others as shown
here:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=1ioifv01joma9fjqpa361host2smg0un2n%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
(Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
Message-ID: <1ioifv01joma9fjqp...@4ax.com>
Excerpt

Anyone who claims any sort of allegiance to Pharisees and teaches their flock
likewise would be, in effect, getting the sheep off the "narrow and cramped road
leading to life" to traveling "the broad and spacious road leading off to
destruction" and please take heed what Jesus said in Matthew 23: 13,15 (cited
further down)!!!

Also here is what the Apostle Paul stated which would indicate a
"Judeo/Christian Alliance" is definitely NOT God's Will:

2 Corinthians 6:14-17 :: King James Version (KJV)
14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship
hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with
darkness?

<Are Jews believers when they deny Christ is the Messiah or are they
"anti-Christs" as identified in the scripture cited further down?>

15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that
believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple
of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and
I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and
touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

<Do the teachings of the Apostle Paul indicate he would endorse a
"Judeo/Christian Alliance" when he forsook being a Pharisee and
abandoned Judaism as the following scripture proves?>

Galatians 1:1,13,14 (English-RSV)
1 Paul an apostle--not from men nor through man, but through Jesus
Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead--
13 For you have heard of my former life in Judaism, how I persecuted
the church of God violently and tried to destroy it;
14 and I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my
people, so extremely zealous was I for the traditions of my fathers.

<Notice the Apostle Paul stated: "former life in Judaism"?>

Acts 26:1,4,5 (English-RSV)
1 Agrippa said to Paul, "You have permission to speak for yourself."
Then Paul stretched out his hand and made his defense:
4 "My manner of life from my youth, spent from the beginning among my
own nation and at Jerusalem, is known by all the Jews.
5 They have known for a long time, if they are willing to testify,
that according to the strictest party of our religion I have lived as
a Pharisee.

<Notice the Apostle Paul stated: "I have lived as a Pharisee" and he did NOT
state: "I live as a Pharisee" thus proving Paul separated himself from
unbelievers and was NOT a purveyor of any sort of a "Judeo/Christian Alliance"
being taught by false teachers of today.>

Matthew 5:20 :: New International Version (NIV)
For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees
and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 23 :: New International Version (NIV)
1 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
2 "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat...
6 they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the
synagogues;
7 they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them 'Rabbi.'
8 "But you are not to be called 'Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you
are all brothers.

<Thus Jesus establishes who he was reviling-- the Pharisees who like being
addressed as "Rabbi.">

13 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the
kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let
those enter who are trying to.
15 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel
over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him
twice as much a son of hell as you are.

<Thus Jesus states plainly that all of those who follow the Pharisees will fare
badly.>

27 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like
whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are
full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the
inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

<Thus Jesus shows how deceiving the Pharisees are. They appear to be righteous
BUT they are not! Why would the 1st Century Pharisees' descendants be any
different?>

29 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build
tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
30 And you say, 'If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not
have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who
murdered the prophets.
32 Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
33 "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to
hell?
34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them
you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue
from town to town.
35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on
earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of
Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
36 I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.

<Thus Jesus establishes who is accountable in God's eyes for blood guilt.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av6qpr9882esa96oaav%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Babylon the Great - Religious Persecution, Torture, Harassment
Message-ID: <k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av...@4ax.com>>

37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to
you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers
her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
38 Look, your house is left to you desolate.

<To this very day the house (or temple) is left desolate.>

39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, 'Blessed is he who
comes in the name of the Lord.'"

<To this very day the Pharisees have not rejoicing proclaimed: "Blessed is he
who comes in the name of the Lord."- so why would the current generation of
Pharisees have ANY favor at all from God?>

Matthew 24 :: New International Version (NIV)
1 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him
to call his attention to its buildings.
2 "Do you see all these things?" he asked. "I tell you the truth, not one stone
here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down."

<The temple still remains in ruins as a witness that "Jews" and "Israel" do not
have God's favor.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2fttrvo00fhaoi2f8ip%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Old Covenant Vs New -- New Covenant Replaces Old Covenant (Jews NO
Longer God's Chosen People & Entitled to "Israel" So Says the Scripture!)
Message-ID: <qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2f...@4ax.com>>

ANTI-CHRIST IDENTIFIED:

1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard
that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists."

1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is
the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those who are trying to
mislead you!"

1 John 4: 2,3 "You gain knowledge of the inspired expression from God by this:
Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in the
flesh originates with God, but every inspired expression that does not confess
Jesus does not originate with God, Furthermore this is the antichrist's inspired
expression which you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world."

2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not

confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never

Christ=Messiah:

<end/excerpt>

>(now go ahead and insert line that the Jews made up
>Judeo-Christianity), are wrong?

They are wrong! Judaism has been True Christianity's opponent since the 1st
Century!

> > I am not The antichrist YET you are the one who embraces the
> > original anti-Christs which have already been identified.
>
>You have not yet proved that you are not.

I have already proved you are ann anti-Christ and you are my opposition. If you
are anti- then I would logically be pro-.

>Embraces? I look at Jews at face value- normal folk. I'll judge people by
>how they treat others, not from what some delusional nutburger (a Rush Limbaugh
>term),like you says I should believe.

I guess these "normal folk" are/were acting acceptably in your eyes:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=upe9kvor1pdvm2ifa8sfa0qfboa6ull055%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Comparing Israel's "Anti-Christ Activism" to Other Middle East Nations
is NOT a Valid Comparison V2.5 R_0821
Message-ID: <upe9kvor1pdvm2ifa...@4ax.com>
Date: 21 Aug 2003 12:22:34 GMT

How First Century Christianity Was Treated by Jews:


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=m1p5nv4es86j78p5dr5pe41l8pi3vfcst0%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives &

Research) V2.5 R_0925


Message-ID: <m1p5nv4es86j78p5d...@4ax.com>
Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:49 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av6qpr9882esa96oaav%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Babylon the Great - Religious Persecution, Torture, Harassment R_0524
Message-ID: <k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:17 GMT


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2jgq8d7orrpfhm3j09%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: The Apostle Paul on Judaized Jews R_0524
Message-ID: <i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:25 GMT

>> >When you begin to study Christianity, you will find that the


>> >Antichrist concept is singular, which is you.
>>
>> You know nothing of the Bible and anti-Christs are many!
>
>OK then, so it's you and Michael-anyone else?

Your ridiculing insults in reply to scriptural fact I posted and which you
deleted proves you to be very Pharisee like!

Here's a restoration of what you deleted:

<START>

>When you begin to study Christianity, you will find that the
>Antichrist concept is singular, which is you.

You know nothing of the Bible and anti-Christs are many!

I.E.

1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard
that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists."

AND DON'T FORGET-- YOUR JEWS ALSO DENY JESUS IS THE MESSIAH WHICH PLAINLY IS
WHAT MAKES THEM ANTI-CHRISTS WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN AS A WHOLE SINCE THE 1st
CENTURY!!



1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is
the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those who are trying to
mislead you!"

1 John 4: 2,3 "You gain knowledge of the inspired expression from God by this:
Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in the
flesh originates with God, but every inspired expression that does not confess
Jesus does not originate with God, Furthermore this is the antichrist's inspired
expression which you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world."

2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not

confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never

receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a
greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."

That last sentence which says: "For he that says a greeting to him is a sharer
in his wicked works." is pretty strong advice!

CHRIS LARSON NEEDS TO HEED THE ADVICE ABOVE AND HE SHOULD STEER CLEAR OF THE
FALSE TEACHERS WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF JUDAS BY ACCEPTING THEIR


THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER FROM THE PHARISEES TO BETRAY JESUS!!!!!

<STOP>

BTW any clergy of Christendom who teaches the false doctrine "The AntiChrist is
a single person who comes in the future" doesn't know what he/she is talking
about and such teachings conflict with the Bible which plainly stated: "..just


as you have heard that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many

antichrists... every inspired expression that does not confess Jesus does not


originate with God, Furthermore this is the antichrist's inspired expression

which you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world... For many
deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not confessing Jesus Christ as
coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist." Seeing how you,
Chris Larson embrace those who do have such deceptive teachings then you haven't
obeyed the admonition given which was: "If anyone comes to you and does not
bring this teaching, never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him.


For he that says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."

You are truthfully a sharer of wicked works! THAT IS FACT!

>> confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
>> antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never
>
>Please stop defaming Christ. Thanks.

You defame him when you side with those who deny he's the Messiah and when you
ridicule those who point out scriptural proofs! How Pharisee of you!

>> THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER FROM THE PHARISEES TO BETRAY JESUS!!!!!
>
>30??? I got screwed- they only gave me 28.

Thanks for the admission you Judas!

> > >This in not a topic for discussion, you ARE THE antichrist. Accept
>it.
>>
>> YOU'RE WILLFULLY IGNORANT AND YOU ARE A LIAR WHICH MAKES YOU WICKED!
>
>CALLING ME NAMES- IS THAT ALL YOUR KIND HAS????

I did not call you names and you have already proven you're ignorant and a liar
to!

>> >> >By the way Mr. Tavish, (the flaming antichrist), when are you going to
>> >> >name just one U.S. Jew, who is a member of the Communist party.
>> >>
>> >> When are you going to stop denying communism was conceived and implemented by
>> >> Jews?
>> >
>> >Again, "I rest my case" as you cannot meet my challenge (again)
>>
>> What challenge? All you did is run you mouth and throw insults.
>
>Again, here it is in black and white:
>name just one U.S. Jew, who is a member of the Communist party.

Is not the Democratic Socialists of America a communist front org?
It espouses communist ideologies and has over fifty members in the United States
Congress and their head member is Jew Bernie Sanders of Vermont! Also there are
more Jews associated with DSA'a Progressive Caucus! Care to deny it?

Here's my proof you big mouth:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=cb175v8908v9gf2qnt3bl1pudp5d3cm243%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Democratic Socialists in Congress, Their Agenda, Their Values, and
Their FIGHTING Songs! R_0219
Message-ID: <cb175v8908v9gf2qn...@4ax.com>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=35847646.281305085%40news.tavish-central.net&rnum=1
Subject: U.S. Gov't Library of Congress Resource says Jewish Rep. Bernard
Sanders is a Socialist! Message-ID: <35847646....@news.tavish-central.net>

BTW socialism is synonymous with being a transitory stage to communism!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3u3kevget4eif2tsgh5213e8chvlonqcum%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Who says Socialism and Communism aren't the same and are adhered to by
the same people? CP USA Speaks out! R_0613
Message-ID: <3u3kevget4eif2tsg...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 Jun 2003 17:50:08 GMT

If the above isn't enough then how about this in reply to your challenge"


"Again, here it is in black and white: name just one U.S. Jew, who is a member

of the Communist party.":

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=6453cc%2412tm%241%40news.missouri.edu&rnum=1
From: sc...@rednet.org (Peoples Weekly World)
Subject: The Russian Revolution: Still inspiring after 80 years
Date: 1997/11/09
Message-ID: <6453cc$12tm$1...@news.missouri.edu>
(Archived locally as: JEW-Revolution)

(Reprinted from the November 8, 1997 issue of the People's
Weekly World. May be reprinted or reposted with PWW credit.
For subscription information see below)

[...]

More openly than today, all the world's great powers were
ruled by old nobility and rich capitalists who were
contemptuous of ordinary workers and peasants. Then, on
Nov. 7, 1917, Lenin's Bolsheviks took power in Russia.

The Bolshevik Party (later the Communist Party) was the
party of the industrial workers in Russia...

Many Russian Jews, including my great-grandparents

<<Tavish comment: There's your one Jew who is a member of the Communist Party!!
Touche' you lose!!>>

After the revolution, all legal restrictions were abolished,
and the first Soviet President was a Jew,

<<Tavish comment: How interesting the first president of the first communist
totalitarian state was a Jew!!>>

************************************************************
Tired of the same old system: Join the Communist Party, USA
Info: CP...@rednet.org; or (212) 989-4994; or
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/cp-usa
************************************************************

How is that Chris!?

Now watch Chris deny the contents of:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rqbetvcbda7er4vl25008qo2uetssudk52%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism V3.0d
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:53:59 -0600
Message-ID: <rqbetvcbda7er4vl2...@4ax.com>

>Tavish?????, Scotty?????, Tav??????, Doc?????

>Hello??? Are you still there?

You acting like a fool reflects on you and only bolsters my case against your
types Chris! Keep making an ass of yourself and people in the future may even
come across these same posts which are archived at GOOGLE!! You don't even have
enough sense to see what an embarrassment you are making of yourself but then
again what leftist has any sense anyway!

Tavish

The first "Holocaust" of the 20th was not Gentiles (Nazis) Against Jews
BUT was Jews (Communists) Against Christian Kulaks!!!


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rqbetvcbda7er4vl25008qo2uetssudk52%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism V3.0d
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:53:59 -0600
Message-ID: <rqbetvcbda7er4vl2...@4ax.com>

_______________________________________________________________________________

Joebruno

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Dec 12, 2003, 1:48:50 PM12/12/03
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larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson) wrote in message news:<6b3bfd67.03121...@posting.google.com>...

> Doc Tavish <Doc_T...@TAVISH-AMERICAN-CENTRAL.NET> wrote in message news:<ra39tv456v27fc559...@4ax.com>...
> > On 7 Dec 2003 17:57:06 -0800, <6b3bfd67.03120...@posting.google.com>
> > larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson) wrote:
> >
> > >From: larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson)
> > >Subject: It's Official---Tavish is THE Antichrist
> >
> > Can't refute me so you make personal attacks-- how Pharisee of you!
>
> Do you even know what a Pharisee is?


I doubt it. He doesn't even understand what "Communist" or "socialist"
means, yet he throws those terms around constantly.


>
> > >Doc Tavish <Doc_T...@TAVISH-AMERICAN-CENTRAL.NET> wrote in message news:<vaa6tv4vsot465jnr...@4ax.com>...
>
> > Why do you keep deleting what I post and then attacking me instead of refuting
> > my post's content?
>
> Who could give a shit what you post? So posting something from the
> internet is gospel for you? (and other antichrists like David
> Michael?)
>
> > >Ever heard of the Ten Commandments?
> >
> > First Century Christians were released from The Law and its Ten Commandments as
> > the archive I provided proved scripturally- which you chose to ignore!

Then why does the King James Bible still include the Old Testament,
liar?


> > What the Bible plainly states and what anyone who reads it can plainly see! You
> > choose to remain obstinate and ignorant as well!
>
> So, the 99%+ of us Christians who practice true Christianity
> (Judeo-Christian) (now go ahead and insert line that the Jews made up
> Judeo-Christianity), are wrong?
>
> > I am not The antichrist YET you are the one who embraces the
> original
> > anti-Christs which have already been identified.
>
> You have not yet proved that you are not. Embraces? I look at Jews at
> face value- normal folk. I'll judge people by how they treat others,
> not from what some delusional nutburger (a Rush Limbaugh term),like
> you says I should believe.
>
> > >When you begin to study Christianity, you will find that the
> > >Antichrist concept is singular, which is you.
> >
> > You know nothing of the Bible and anti-Christs are many!

He knows more than a sixth-grade dropout does.


>
> OK then, so it's you and Michael-anyone else?
>
> > confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
> > antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never
>
> Please stop defaming Christ. Thanks.
>
> > THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER FROM THE PHARISEES TO BETRAY JESUS!!!!!
>
> 30??? I got screwed- they only gave me 28.
>
> > >This in not a topic for discussion, you ARE THE antichrist. Accept
> it.
> >
> > YOU'RE WILLFULLY IGNORANT AND YOU ARE A LIAR WHICH MAKES YOU WICKED!
>
> CALLING ME NAMES- IS THAT ALL YOUR KIND HAS????
>
> > >> >By the way Mr. Tavish, (the flaming antichrist), when are you going to
> > >> >name just one U.S. Jew, who is a member of the Communist party.
> > >>
> > >> When are you going to stop denying communism was conceived and implemented by
> > >> Jews?
> > >
> > >Again, "I rest my case" as you cannot meet my challenge (again)
> >
> > What challenge? All you did is run you mouth and throw insults.
>
> Again, here it is in black and white:
> name just one U.S. Jew, who is a member of the Communist party.
>
> Tavish?????, Scotty?????, Tav??????, Doc?????
> Hello??? Are you still there?


According to Fatboy, anyone who uses personal attack is a Communist.
He has also claimed that anyone who accuses someone of being mentally
ill is also a Communist. As I said, he has no idea of what many of his
words mean.

Yuri Tavishinski

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YES! My subject title is 100% accurate- 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage in
Holocaust Denial in Addition to Their anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism

FOREWORD: I now show in this one post a major flub-a-dub by the Jews in the 1st
Century which I am most positive no Church of Christendom (or anyone else for
that matter) has ever noticed or pointed out. Jews lied to Pilate when they
claimed: "It is not lawful for us to put any man to death." IOW they were
seeking to have the Romans do their dirty work for them! Jews had already put to
death prophets and after they killed Jesus they murdered 1st Century Christians
in the first Holocaust of two notable Holocausts they have waged against
Christians. Jews stoned the Disciple known as Stephen to death did they not? See
how they lie?

John 18: (English-RSV)
29 So Pilate went out to them and said, "What accusation do you bring
against this man?"
30 They answered him, "If this man were not an evildoer, we would not
have handed him over."
31 Pilate said to them, "Take him yourselves and judge him by your own
law." The Jews said to him, "It is not lawful for us to put any man to
death."

~~~~~~~~~~

For the record it is claimed that B'nai Brith is the world's largest Jewish
organization:

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=10&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=World%27s+Largest+Jewish+Organization&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images
Searched the web for "World's Largest Jewish Organization". Results 1 - 10 of
about 58

Examples of returns:

http://www.jewishomaha.org/monsky.htm
(Archived locally as: monsky)
333 S. 132nd St., 334-6443
Gary Javitch, President
Lois Epstein, Administrative staff
Founded in 1843, B'nai B'rith is the world's largest Jewish organization with a
membership of one-half million men and women in 57 countries. The organization
defends human rights and fights discrimination throughout the world. It sponsors
interfaith dialogues, promotes democracy and world peace. B'nai B'rith is
committed to Jewish unity.

http://www.jewishhartford.org/agency_detail.epl?agency_id=58
(Archived locally as: agency_detail)
Jewish Community Resources
... B'nai B'rith - the world's largest Jewish organization....

From a letter of protest by B'nai Brith (the world's largest Jewish
organization) to the Vatican regarding Mel Gibson's film _The Passion_:

http://bnaibrith.org/pr/03Aug27_Gibson.cfm
(Link active September 23, 2003. Archived locally as: 03Aug27_Gibson)
Excerpt

BBI Asks Vatican to Denounce Mel Gibson's "The Passion"
August 20, 2003

Archbishop Gabriel Montalvo
Apostolic Nuncio
Embassy of the Vatican in Washington, DC
3339 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20008

Dear Archibishop Montalvo:

In the spirit of interfaith cooperation, we appeal for your support
on a pressing issue of concern. As you know, Mel Gibson’s soon-to-be-released
film “The Passion” has alarmed Christians and Jews because of scenes that
reportedly revive the canard of Jewish culpability for the crucifixion of
Jesus.

For generations, the deicide slander forced unspeakable suffering on Jews
and nurtured a virulent anti-Semitism that would eventually result in the
Holocaust...

Sincerely,

Joel S. Kaplan
International President

Daniel S. Mariaschin
Executive Vice President

<END>

But B'nai Brith-- Jews do have "culpability for the crucifixion of Jesus" and
the Bible plainly states so and has for nearly 2000 years! Here is the Bible
totally refuting your denial and your words: ".. revive the canard of Jewish
culpability for the crucifixion of Jesus. For generations, the deicide slander
forced unspeakable suffering on Jews.."

Jesus himself foretold who would have greater sin (or culpability) for his death
and he plainly stated to Pilate: "therefore he who delivered me to you has the
greater sin." Who delivered Jesus to Pilate and therefore has the greater sin?
Answer: JEWS!

John 19:6-16 (English-RSV)

6 When the chief priests and the officers saw him, they cried out,
"Crucify him, crucify him!" Pilate said to them, "Take him yourselves
and crucify him, for I find no crime in him."
7 The Jews answered him, "We have a law, and by that law he ought to
die, because he has made himself the Son of God."
8 When Pilate heard these words, he was the more afraid;
9 he entered the praetorium again and said to Jesus, "Where are you
from?" But Jesus gave no answer.
10 Pilate therefore said to him, "You will not speak to me? Do you not
know that I have power to release you, and power to crucify you?"
11 Jesus answered him, "You would have no power over me unless it had
been given you from above; therefore he who delivered me to you has
the greater sin."

Pilate also confirmed it was Jews who delivered Jesus to him in earlier
scripture:

John 18: (English-RSV)
28 Then they led Jesus from the house of Ca'iaphas to the praetorium.
It was early. They themselves did not enter the praetorium, so that
they might not be defiled, but might eat the passover.
29 So Pilate went out to them and said, "What accusation do you bring
against this man?"
30 They answered him, "If this man were not an evildoer, we would not
have handed him over."
31 Pilate said to them, "Take him yourselves and judge him by your own
law." The Jews said to him, "It is not lawful for us to put any man to
death."
32 This was to fulfil the word which Jesus had spoken to show by what
death he was to die.
33 Pilate entered the praetorium again and called Jesus, and said to
him, "Are you the King of the Jews?"
34 Jesus answered, "Do you say this of your own accord, or did others
say it to you about me?"
35 Pilate answered, "Am I a Jew? Your own nation and the chief priests
have handed you over to me...

The Apostle Peter also confirms who delivered Jesus up to be executed:

Acts 3:12-15 :: King James Version
12 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why
marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power
or holiness we had made this man to walk?
13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers,
hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the
presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.
14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be
granted unto you;
15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof
we are witnesses.

The Jews, themselves, admitted they handed Jesus over to Pilate:

John 18: (English-RSV)
29 So Pilate went out to them and said, "What accusation do you bring
against this man?"
30 They answered him, "If this man were not an evildoer, we would not
have handed him over."
31 Pilate said to them, "Take him yourselves and judge him by your own
law." The Jews said to him, "It is not lawful for us to put any man to
death."

Key words were: "we would not have handed him over."

The Apostle Paul plainly states who killed Jesus:

1 Thessalonians 2:14,15 (English-NIV):
14 For you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea,
which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the
same things those churches suffered from the Jews,
15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out.
They displease God and are hostile to all men.

Notice the fine points made by the Apostle Paul in this little bit of
scripture!

He brought out in two verses:
1) " those churches suffered from the Jews" Those sweet harmless
little Jews were committing "hate crimes" against Christians!
2) "the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus"
3) "They displease God.." The Temple is still in ruins as a testament
to that fact! Undeniable wouldn't you say? And last BUT certainly not
least by any stretch of the imagination:
4) "They (Jews) are hostile to all men."

Disciple Stephen testifies: "Which one of the prophets did your forefathers not
persecute? Yes, they killed those who made announcement in advance concerning
the coming of the righteous One, whose betrayers and murderers YOU have become."
Acts 7: 52 This was from the speech Stephen gave the Jews about all of their
transgressions just before he (Stephen) got stoned to death by Jews who could
not contradict what he was telling them. Jews have quite a Biblical record as
killing people or having them harassed by government when their sins, hypocrisy,
and evil are held up to their faces!

I.E.

Acts 6:8-12 (English-KJV)
8 And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles
among the people.
9 Then there arose certain of the synagogue, which is called the synagogue
of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia
and of Asia, disputing with Stephen.
10 And they were not able to resist the wisdom and the spirit by which he
spake.
11 Then they suborned men, which said, We have heard him speak
blasphemous words against Moses, and against God.
12 And they stirred up the people, and the elders, and the scribes, and
came upon him, and caught him, and brought him to the council...

Acts 7:1, 51-58 (English-KJV)
1 Then said the high priest, Are these things so?

(History of Jews transgressions against G-d deleted for brevity. Tavish)

51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist
the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have
slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye
have been now the betrayers and murderers:
53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not
kept it.
54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and
they gnashed on him with their teeth.
55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven,
and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on
the right hand of God.
57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran
upon him with one accord,
58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him:....

From the above passages we learn:
a) [T]here arose certain of the synagogue, which is called the synagogue
of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia
and of Asia, disputing with Stephen
b) Stephen "spoke things they couldn't refute" as recorded with the words:
"they were not able to resist the wisdom.."
c) The Pharisees then: "stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one
accord, And cast him out of the city, and stoned him...."
d) Stephen blamed the Pharisaic Jews of the synagogue for the death of Jesus.

Going back to the Bible regarding the culpability of Jews for Jesus' death:

Matthew 27:20,24,25 (English-RSV)
20 Now the chief priests and the elders persuaded the people to ask
for Barab'bas and destroy Jesus.
24 So when Pilate saw that he was gaining nothing, but rather that a
riot was beginning, he took water and washed his hands before the
crowd, saying, "I am innocent of this man's blood; see to it
yourselves."
25 And all the people answered, "His blood be on us and on our
children!"

Who were "the chief priests and the elders persuad[ing] the people to ask
for Barab'bas and destroy Jesus"? Answer: JEWS!! Who said: ""His blood be
on us and on our children!"? Answer: JEWS!!

As for B'nai Brith's words: ".. revive the canard of Jewish culpability for the
crucifixion of Jesus. For generations, the deicide slander forced unspeakable
suffering on Jews.."-- The Bible shows you for the evil Child of the Devil you
are! JEWS DO HAVE CULPABILITY FOR THE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS AND IT ISN'T "DEICIDE
SLANDER" BECAUSE IT IS TRUE JEWS KILLED JESUS!!

Here is Marvin Hier of the Simon Wiesenthal Center running his mouth:

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/030812/3/3dcmv.html
(Link active August 16, 2003. Archived locally as: 3dcmv)

Wednesday August 13, 03:46 AM

Calif. Rabbi Says 'Passion' Already Fueling Hatred
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Mel Gibson's new film "The Passion" has already
unleashed a wave of anti-Semitism in the United States despite the fact
that it won't be released for months, a Jewish leader said on Tuesday.

Rabbi Marvin Hier, founder of the Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal
Center, told Reuters the Jewish human rights organization had received
dozens of hate calls and letters prompted by a handful of private
screenings and advance publicity about the movie.

"The Passion," is Gibson's depiction of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and
events leading up to it. It has raised concern that it might portray Jews
as collectively guilty for Christ's death. The film is not scheduled for
general release until early next year.

Representatives of the Anti-Defamation League saw the movie in a private
screening and the League said on Monday that if it was released in its
present form it could "fuel the hatred, bigotry and anti-Semitism that many
responsible churches have worked hard to repudiate.".. <END>

As for the statement: "..depiction of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and
events leading up to it.. has raised concern that it might portray Jews
as collectively guilty for Christ's death"-- the scriptures above resoundingly
prove who is "collectively guilty for Christ's death"! JEWS!

As for the statement: "anti-Semitism that many responsible churches have worked
hard to repudiate"- those churches are NOT responsible if they, after having
accepted their thirty pieces of silver from the Neo-Pharisees to whitewash the
scripture, shift the blame away from the very people who the Bible holds
culpable! See special note at the bottom of this post under the banner of:
"SIMON WIESENTHAL CENTER AND HOLOCAUSTS"

Here is ADL in denial:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34691
(Link active December 10, 2003. Archived locally as: 34691)
Excerpt

ADL director calls
Gibson 'anti-Semite'
Abraham Foxman lashes out at actor over statements about 'The Passion'

The controversy over Mel Gibson's "The Passion," an epic film about the last 12
hours of Christ's life, has ratcheted up a notch with the national director of
the Anti-Defamation League, Abraham Foxman, calling the actor-director an
"anti-Semite."

"Recent statements by Mel Gibson paint the portrait of an anti-Semite," Foxman
told The Jewish Week.

Gibson has been the target of widespread criticism for his portrayal of Jews in
the film, even though very few people have actually seen the movie. "The
Passion," according to Gibson's critics, portrays Jews in a way that could fuel
anti-Semitism...

''The film can fuel, trigger, stimulate, induce, rationalize, legitimize
anti-Semitism,'' said Foxman. ''You know, the Gospels, if taken literally, can
be very damaging, in the same way if you take the Old Testament literally.''

But this week Foxman said Gibson is spouting "classic anti-Semitism."

"There's no longer a debate where [Mel Gibson] is coming from," Foxman told the
weekly. "He is a true believer that the true story of the suffering [of Jesus]
is that the Jews made him suffer."..

The Jewish Weekly reports Foxman noted that in the New Yorker piece, Gibson
regrets excising a scene in which the high priest recites the curse from the
Gospel of Matthew proclaiming that the blood of Jesus is upon him and his
children.

Gibson told New Yorker reporter Peter J. Boyer: "But, man, if I included that in
there, they'd be coming after me at my house, they'd come kill me," referring to
his critics... <END>

In regard to the paragraph which stated: "The Jewish Weekly reports Foxman noted
that in the New Yorker piece, Gibson regrets excising a scene in which the high
priest recites the curse from the Gospel of Matthew proclaiming that the blood
of Jesus is upon him and his children." Here is the scripture:
Matthew 27:20,24,25 (English-RSV)
20 Now the chief priests and the elders persuaded the people to ask
for Barab'bas and destroy Jesus.
24 So when Pilate saw that he was gaining nothing, but rather that a
riot was beginning, he took water and washed his hands before the
crowd, saying, "I am innocent of this man's blood; see to it
yourselves."
25 And all the people answered, "His blood be on us and on our
children!"

I have news for you Abe Foxman of B'nai Brith's Anti Defamation League- JEWS are
culpable for the death of Jesus which started the first Holocaust waged by Jews
against 1st Century Christians! You and your fellow Jewish Organizations whine,
wail and wring hands about people who deny what Nazis did to Jews which Jews
have named "The Holocaust" YET you Jews deny The Holocaust Jewry waged against
Christians of the 1st Century! Jews acted the same as Nazis with their Holocaust
they waged in the 1st Century. Jews hunted Christians down from town to town,
they imprisoned people, flogged Christians in Jewish Synagogues and had
Christians executed and almost 2000 years before Hitler and his Nazis came to
power in 1933!!

Jews are responsible for not ONE but TWO HOLOCAUSTS against Christians!

Here are archival details of the 1st Century Holocaust which Jews deny or
attempt to revise history concerning the Holocaust waged by Jews against
Christians:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=m1p5nv4es86j78p5dr5pe41l8pi3vfcst0%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives &
Research) V2.5 R_0925
Message-ID: <m1p5nv4es86j78p5d...@4ax.com>
Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:49 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av6qpr9882esa96oaav%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Babylon the Great - Religious Persecution, Torture, Harassment R_0524
Message-ID: <k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:17 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2jgq8d7orrpfhm3j09%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: The Apostle Paul on Judaized Jews R_0524
Message-ID: <i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:25 GMT

Jews through the Communism they conceived and first implemented as a Soviet
State under Bolshevism waged a second Holocaust against Christians in the 20th
Century and this too took place BEFORE Hitler and his Nazis came to power in
1933!

Here is the Second Holocaust waged by Jews against Christians in the 20th
Century:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rqbetvcbda7er4vl25008qo2uetssudk52%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism V3.0d
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:53:59 -0600
Message-ID: <rqbetvcbda7er4vl2...@4ax.com>

The above archive documents the inception of communism as an ideology as well as
the movers and shakers behind the establishment of the first Soviet State along
with how Christians fared under such regimes! FULLY DOCUMENTED AND IRREFUTABLE!!

SIMON WIESENTHAL CENTER AND HOLOCAUSTS

The Simon Wiesenthal Center will not acknowledge that Jews waged not ONE but TWO
Holocausts against Christians/Anti-Communists YET they dwell on passing blame on
to Christendom for what the Nazis did to Jews during WW TWO which came
historically AFTER the two Holocaust Jews had waged against humanity. Instead of
it being Christendom's fault I would say what happened to Jews under Nazism was
the Jews fault! If the Jews were spreading communist revolution and genocide
against Christians throughout Russia and it spilling over into Europe then I say
it is very possible that Adolf Hitler and his Nazis have never had a chance to
come to power! Jews reaped what they had already sown in a historical sense.

Here is the Simon Wiesenthal Center passing blame and judgment:

http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/resources/books/annual3/chap17.html
(Link active August 28, 2003. Archived locally as nazi_jews_simon)
(Excerpt)
Museum of Tolerance Online Multimedia Learning Center
Simon Wiesenthal Center Annual 3
Popular Culture on Nazi Germany
by Robert S. Wistrich

[...]

Along with the creeping rehabilitation of Hitler within Western mass culture,
a concurrent re-imagining of the Jew has also taken place. This new image, by
and large unflattering, can equally be regarded as a "reflection of Nazism,"
though its roots are much deeper and have their origin at the very heart of
Christendom... <END>

Thus the bunch of Jews at SWC blame Christendom for what happened to Jews.
Here is more:

http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/resources/books/annual3/chap18.html
(Link active August 28, 2003. Archived locally as nazi_jews_simon2)
(Excerpt)
Museum of Tolerance Online Multimedia Learning Center
Simon Wiesenthal Center Annual 3
How America Abandoned the Jews in World War II
by Stephen E. Ambrose

[...]

"At the heart of Christianity is the commitment to help the helpless," he writes
(which is an arguable assertion, not a fact). "Yet, for the most part, America's
Christian churches looked away while the European Jews perished"... <END>

Perhaps Nazism would not have ever come to power at all if Jews had not waged
their own Holocaust against Christian kulaks during their Jewish led Bolshevik
Revolution and if Jews weren't the ones obviously spreading such communist
revolt throughout Europe!

I.E.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rqbetvcbda7er4vl25008qo2uetssudk52%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism V3.0d
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:53:59 -0600
Message-ID: <rqbetvcbda7er4vl2...@4ax.com>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=llcngv42c93cflmndrcg9dbt8m7u7nus18%404ax.com&rnum=4
Subject: Socialism Imported Into America, Canada, Rumania, Hungary, Poland,
Germany, Ukraine, Palestine (Israel) Etc. by Jews (In Their Own Words People!)
V1.0 First Edition
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 01:15:39 -0500
Message-ID: <llcngv42c93cflmnd...@4ax.com>

The ironic thing about all of the above is that the Churches of Christendom now
ignore the history of what Jews have done to Christians and they are now
paralyzed with guilt feelings by such tactics as the Wiesenthal Center and other
organizations which evoke feelings of guilt in uninformed masses to cover for
their own genocide! Two wrongs do not make a right BUT for Jews to deny TWO
Holocausts they have waged against Christians and uninformed adherents of
Christendom being made to feel guilty is the pinnacle of bedevilment by the
original Children of the Father of Lies-- The Devil.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
Message-ID: <vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT

Update ADDENDUM:

Wayne posted the above text with an addition:

Message-ID: <5992b63c26ace9c0...@news.1usenet.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:29:55 GMT
From: wayne@. (Wayne)
Subject: These Holocaust Deniers and Revisionists must be prosecuted for their
Hate Speech

--

Yuri Tavishinski Tavish posted this as;
_3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage in Holocaust Denial in Addition to Their
anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism_. I say if Jews wish to prosecute
people for Holocaust Denial, revisionism or holocaust minimalizing in reference
to what Nazis did to them then Jews should be prosecuted for their holocaust
denial and minimalizing as well as for their attempts to revise history
concerning what Jews have done to others.

What Yuri Tavishinski Tavish posted

<Wayne posted the text I showed in full above with the following addition>:

Yuri Tavishinski Tavish left out the Holocaust Jews started and are now waging
against the Palestinians. The world in general has been blinded to the reality
that Arabs were not the ones who started hostilities in Israel. The Jews started
the hostilities and atrocities under their communist zionist zealotry.

http://www.yucommentator.com/v64i5/features/ttbengurion.shtml
Zionism fascinated the young David Gruen, and he became convinced that
the first step for the Jews who wanted to revive Israel as a nation was to
immigrate to Palestine and settle there as farmers...
Following the British governments publication in 1917 of the Balfour
Declaration, which promised the Jews a "national homeland" in Palestine,
Ben-Gurion enlisted in the British army's Jewish Legion to join the war for the
liberation of Palestine from Ottoman rule. Ben-Gurion immediately called for
accelerated Jewish immigration to Palestine in an effort to create a Jewish
nucleus that would serve as the foundation of a Jewish state...
As the Jewish settlement strengthened and deepened its roots in
Palestine, anxiety mounted among the Palestinian Arabs, resulting in violent
clashes between the two communities... finis

http://www.jewishmag.com/43mag/bengurion/bengurion.htm
History of David Ben-Gurion
... "We are following a new path," Ben Gurion explained in 1921, "which
contradicts developments in the whole world except Russia." This led him to pay
homage to the Soviet Union for "her great spiritual influence on our movement
and our work in Palestine." In these years Ben Gurion came to "idolize Lenin"
and "he even adopted the dress of the Soviet leaders - a quasi military uniform
of rough wool." Ben Gurion's affinity towards communism and socialism from his
early years accompanied him in developing institutions later in Israel....
After the Balfour Declaration, Ben Gurion called for the formation of a
Jewish army to liberate Palestine. He volunteered for the British Army and
reached Egypt. In Egypt he met many like minded volunteers and all agreed on the
necessity for a united movement to prepare for the day of Jewish rule in Israel.
The evolving socialist nature of Zionism in Palestine was ultimately
accepted and actively supported by most of the leaders of the World Zionist
Organization (WZO)... finis

Why would Palestine need to ne liberated by a Jewish army and from whom was
Palestine being liberated from? The truth of the matter is the Jews waged a
genocide against Palestinians and took their land from them. That genocide of
hundreds of thousands is ignored.

Jews have done to Palestinians in Israel what the Jewish Bolshevists did to
the kulaks in Russia. The Jews subjected those they deem as racially inferior
to being dominated by Jews whether by zionism, socialism or communism.

<<Tavish comment: Looks like Wayne used material from my:
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=1g60hvoj0b21pn339...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Palestine was Changed to a Socialist Jewish State in 1948 by Ben-Gurion
with Communist Soviet Union's Support Message-ID:
<1g60hvoj0b21pn339...@4ax.com> in his remarks above.>>

I replied to the above with:

From: Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET>
Subject: Re: These Holocaust Deniers and Revisionists must be prosecuted for
their Hate Speech
Message-ID: <jq7htv0molglal5a5...@4ax.com>
References: <5992b63c26ace9c0...@news.1usenet.com>

Some one has been reading their e-mails! I wonder who Wayne is.

I am going to add those lines concerning the current Jewish Holocaust against
Palestinians to my original: "3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage in Holocaust
Denial in Addition to Their anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism" as V2.0.
That makes THREE HOLOCAUSTS Jews have waged or waging and seeing how Jews are
Nazi like in their barbarity of killing people to harvest their organs makes
their depravity worse than Joseph Mengele's!

I.E.

On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 15:30:08 -0500, <4615139.smXchvIfDg@FreeBSD> Tommy
<To...@NotForMail.com> wrote:

>Jewish Leader of Organ-Selling Ring Arrested
>News/Comment; Posted on: 2003-12-03 14:45:34 [ Printer friendly ]
>
>Along with 11 others, an Israeli national -- believed to be the ringleader
>-- has been arrested in Brazil for trading in human organs. After medical
>screening for suitability, the donors were sent to Durban, South Africa to
>have their kidneys removed and sold, for which they received a reported
>$6,000 - $10,000. No mention was made of the profit margin of the human
>organ ring.
>
>http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/site/premium/access-registered.intercept

I had posted documents which expands greatly upon the above and they are
retrievable in this archive:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=dpnmrv4aap9otn9ac4j2lo64th5f90qkft%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Israel Kills Palestinian Boys, Steals Organs For Transplants R_1119
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:16:57 -0600
Message-ID: <dpnmrv4aap9otn9ac...@4ax.com>

Also further proof that Israel and Jews in general are NOT The Chosen People and
a Holy Nation:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3nfppv0if6pf32de3buu3lj1grib1j0ehg%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: White Slavery of Christian Girls - In Israel!! and Jews Dominate
Hollywood and Porn R_1027
Message-ID: <3nfppv0if6pf32de3...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Oct 2003 06:47:44 GMT

>When Jesus said: John-8-44 "You are of your father the devil" I think he was
>right. You Anti-Christ are some evil people!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
Message-ID: <vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT

>Had a White Gentile or Arab done this it would be all over the news.

TRUE but seeing how the nation of Israel itself, instead of just solitary
individuals, is behind this barbarism no one in the established media will say a
thing! They are too afraid of having their plug pulled and they don't like being
labeled "anti-Semites" even though they would be speaking the truth! Can anyone
show just one news story and its URL where Fox NEWS, CNN, MSNBC or any of the
other media outlets have ever been critical of Jews and/or Israel?

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:24:56 +0000, <8mr0sv05370fch9bs...@4ax.com>
Ralf Chinger <caffer...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Seven Jewish Americans Control Most US Media
From John Whitley
11-21-3

From southern France, Christopher Jones summarizes and comments on a report on
the assassination of President Kennedy. Need I stress that WAIS censors only
direct attacks on other WAISers and grossly improper language.

Christopher says: "I glanced at the Kennedy assassination site and found this;
it fits into our discussion of Hollywood stereotypes and the slavish behavior of
the US press after the 9/11 tragedy and in the run up to the invasion of Iraq.
In a quick rundown, the website recapitulates an old story that I heard back in
the late sixties and early seventies in California: that Kennedy was liquidated
by the mafia whose kingpin was Meyer Lansky (pal of Lucky Luciano). In fact, I
could add a small tidbit which the author may or may not have covered: that
Marilyn Monroe was murdered by the mafia as a warning to her lovers; Bobby and
Jack Kennedy. The story of the Corsican hit squad was documented in a TV
documentary in Europe. Of course it would be interesting to know more about
Auguste Ricord and his collaboration with the Gestapo and if he had anything to
do with our old friend, Mandel Szkolnikoff.

"Today, seven Jewish Americans run the vast majority of US television networks,
the printed press, the Hollywood movie industry, the book publishing industry,
and the recording industry. Most of these industries are bundled into huge media
conglomerates run by the following seven individuals:

Gerald Levin, CEO and Director of AOL Time Warner

Michael Eisner, Chairman and CEO of the Walt Disney Company

Edgar Bronfman, Sr., Chairman of Seagram Company Ltd

Edgar Bronfman, Jr, President and CEO of Seagram Company Ltd and
head of Universal Studios

Sumner Redstone, Chairman and CEO of Viacom, Inc

Dennis Dammerman, Vice Chairman of General Electric

Peter Chernin, President and Co-COO of News Corporation Limited

Those seven Jewish men collectively control ABC, NBC, CBS, the Turner
Broadcasting System, CNN, MTV, Universal Studios, MCA Records, Geffen Records,
DGC Records, GRP Records, Rising Tide Records, Curb/Universal Records, and
Interscope Records.

Most of the larger independent newspapers are owned by Jewish interests as well.
An example is media mogul is Samuel I. "Si" Newhouse, who owns two dozen daily
newspapers from Staten Island to Oregon, plus the Sunday supplement Parade; the
Conde Nast collection of magazines, including Vogue, The New Yorker, Vanity
Fair, Allure, GQ, and Self; the publishing firms of Random House, Knopf, Crown,
and Ballantine, among other imprints; and cable franchises with over one million
subscribers."

I could add that Michael Eisner could depart Disney tomorrow but the company
will remain in the hands of Shamrock Holdings, whose principal office is now
located in Israel".

http://wais.stanford.edu/History/history_KennedyAssassination(092803).html

<END>

The link above did not work but the same exact material is mirrored at these
web sites (All links shown active December 10, 2003):
http://www.movie-fan-forum.com/movies/7_Jewish_Americans_Control_Most_US_Media_593242.html
(Archived locally as: 593242)
http://www.rense.com/general44/sevenjewishamericans.htm
(Archived locally as: sevenjewishamericans)

What is astounding is the great number of hits I got using a GOOGLE Search!
http://www.google.com/search?q=+%22Seven+Jewish+Americans+Control+Most+US+Media%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&as_qdr=all&filter=0
Searched the web for "Seven Jewish Americans Control Most US Media". Results 1
- 10 of about 1,390 [Search done December 10, 2003 @ 10:00 am CST]

I have posted what Jews themselves have written about Who Controls Hollywood and
it is all documented in this archive:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=1joifv46bg5ismcqds87tnkkn6loevfddf%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: HOLLYWOOD: Who Created It and Who Runs It (IN Their Own Words Series)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:20 -0500
Message-ID: <1joifv46bg5ismcqd...@4ax.com>

Thus it has been proven that Jews have already waged TWO Holocausts (which they
deny) against humanity and are now engaging in a THIRD Holocaust in Palestine
(which they also now deny7 doing).

If anyone would like to complain to the Holocaust Deniers and Revisionists
exposed as being such here is the contact information:
(Remember- don't do anything criminal such as making death threats or
threatening violence BUT you don't have to be polite to the devils either!)
[All information below came from their web sites or their affiliates
December 12, 2003]

B'nai Brith (The Jews who wrote the Vatican):
Joel S. Kaplan
International President
202-857-6553 pres...@bnaibrith.org
Daniel S. Mariaschin
Executive Vice President
202-857-6500 e...@bnaibrith.org

http://bbinet.org/
B'nai B'rith International
2020 K St., NW
7th Floor
Washington, DC 20006
202-857-6600
inte...@bnaibrith.org

The Anti Defamation League of B'nai Brith (Abe Foxman who calls Mel Gibson
an anti-semite):

Anti-Defamation League
Abraham Foxman, National Director
823 United Nations Plaza
New York NY 10017
Telephone: (212) 885-7700
E-mail: new-...@adl.org

Additional telephone numbers for New York ADL:
Phone: (212) 885-7970
FAX: (212) 867-9406

The Simon Wiesenthal Center (Rabbi Marvin Hier):
Simon Wiesenthal Center
1399 South Roxbury
Los Angeles, California 90035
Fax: (310) 772-7654
1-800-900-9036
webm...@wiesenthal.com

Rabbi Abraham Cooper
Associate Dean
Simon Wiesenthal Center
9760 W. Pico Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90035

Seeing how Rabbi Marvin Hier is into Holocaust Restitution (Current day Germans
paying Jews money for what their fathers and grandfathers did) ask Marvin if
Jews should make restitution to Christians whose grandparents were murdered in
the Jewish Bolshevik Holocaust against Christians by Rabbi Hier's ancestral
brethren counterparts in Soviet Bolshevist Russia!

Be sure to ask all three organizations who claim to fight hate and bigotry why
they have such teachings about non-Jews in the section below under the banner
of: "--Jewish Tradition will NEVER teach Non-Jews as being equals--"

All info given above is in public domain and freely offered by the three Jewish
organizations named above who are now engaging in: Hate Speech, bigotry and
intolerance along with Holocaust Denial and Revisionism. We don't want two
different standards do we- one for Jews and one for non-Jews?

Tavish

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=1ioifv01joma9fjqpa361host2smg0un2n%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
(Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
Message-ID: <1ioifv01joma9fjqp...@4ax.com>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2fttrvo00fhaoi2f8ip%404ax.com&rnum=1


Subject: Old Covenant Vs New -- New Covenant Replaces Old Covenant (Jews NO
Longer God's Chosen People & Entitled to "Israel" So Says the Scripture!)
Message-ID: <qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2f...@4ax.com>

--Jewish Tradition will NEVER teach Non-Jews as being equals--


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=kllghv4i1i04qsl4hc4uva984ad499imdg%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Non-Jews: What is Taught About Them & How They are Viewed by 21st
Century Pharisees V2.1 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:23:59 -0500
Message-ID: <kllghv4i1i04qsl4h...@4ax.com>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=b6beevshh8dcr43hk33rafn23fvo2p8c9c%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: All Men Are Created Equal is NOT a Jewish Concept
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:27:38 -0500
Message-ID: <b6beevshh8dcr43hk...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=iajpkv0j8trac76ia...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Jews Want Legal and Financial Superiority Over the Non-Jew; Who is NOT
a "Brother" in Their Eyes! V2.0 R_0827
Message-ID: <iajpkv0j8trac76ia...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Aug 2003 15:36:36 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ejoodv8ba5n1ja6k5f13i0bfp46nhfb257%404ax.com&rnum=3
Subject: Bigoted Reasoning of Jews on Relations with Non-Jews From Chabad
Lubavitch Cyberspace Website
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Sara Salzman

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In article <4dfjtv8ka4osdnjpi...@4ax.com>,
Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote:

Sorry, Moron. My father was an expert witness in a court case. That's
not "my versions" of anything he read, it was your Bruno fantasies,
which were also submitted to the court and accepted as FACT.

My father gave his professional OPINION, based on YOUR posts. He
submitted his professional OPINION, based on more than 40 years'
experience, to an ATTORNEY.

Got that?

Sara

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--

-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!

-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and

the bulk of my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference.


BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.

Chris C. Larson

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Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote in message news:<g6mjtvcgk53qnnnhl...@4ax.com>...

> On 11 Dec 2003 18:27:56 -0800, <6b3bfd67.03121...@posting.google.com>
> larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson) wrote:
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> >Doc Tavish <Doc_T...@TAVISH-AMERICAN-CENTRAL.NET> wrote in message news:
> <ra39tv456v27fc559...@4ax.com>...

drivel snipped as usual

Scott, ok I gave you another chance but you failed to do anymore that
you've done in the past-that is repost the same 3-4 posts and call
people names. This is why you failed Scott. Us conservatives laugh as
we see black racists, liberals and white racists (like yourself) whine
and place blame on others. And you don't even understand the issues.
My workmates in the office really got a kick out of your "invent a
racist Christianity", diatribe. All the Protestants, Lutherans,
Catholics, Baptists, Mormons have got it wrong in your book. LOL!!!

Scott, I know your repeated failure is frustrating, but try and get
out into the community and at least attempt to make Belleville a
better place. I think you'll feel better doing something positive
instead of blaming others. And again, should you decide to convert to
Christianity, I wish you and Bruno a Merry Christmas.

Chris

James Gregory McTavish

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larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson) wrote:

>Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET> wrote in message news:<g6mjtvcgk53qnnnhl...@4ax.com>...
>> On 11 Dec 2003 18:27:56 -0800, <6b3bfd67.03121...@posting.google.com>
>> larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson) wrote:
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>> >Doc Tavish <Doc_T...@TAVISH-AMERICAN-CENTRAL.NET> wrote in message news:
>> <ra39tv456v27fc559...@4ax.com>...
>
>drivel snipped as usual

Can't deal with facts can you?

>Scott, ok I gave you another chance but you failed to do anymore that
>you've done in the past-that is repost the same 3-4 posts and call
>people names. This is why you failed Scott. Us conservatives laugh as
>we see black racists, liberals and white racists (like yourself) whine
>and place blame on others.

The real racists and bigots are those who have teachings such as what Jews teach
about non-Jews at their web sites which I have documented and archived
profusely:

>And you don't even understand the issues.

You are the one who lacks understanding!

>My workmates in the office really got a kick out of your "invent a
>racist Christianity", diatribe. All the Protestants, Lutherans,
>Catholics, Baptists, Mormons have got it wrong in your book. LOL!!!

If they claim a Judeo-Christian alliance exists then they are wrong!
1st Century Christianity had no alliance with Judaism.
1st Century Christians who were Jews and converted forsook Judaism.
Judaism was/is the religion of the Pharisees and Neo-Pharisees.
If the Disciples of Christendom were actually walking in the footsteps and
teachings of 1st Century Christians they would no more claim an alliance with
today's Pharisees than the 1st Century Christians did with the Pharisees of
their day!

To claim an alliance with those who deny Jesus came in the flesh as the Messiah
is ignoring what TRUE CHRISTIANITY teaches:

ANTI-CHRISTS AND HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM:

Christ=Messiah:

Did Jesus advocate a Judeo-Christian Alliance in the 1st Century with the
Pharisees of his day?

I tell you what Chris, you and your fellow sheep of Christendom can laugh at me
all you want BUT the scripture I quoted is not mine so you are heckling the true
source. I challenge you to show a New Revelation from God which makes null and
void what 1st Century Christianity taught about Christianity and its followers
separating themselves from unbelievers which is hardly establishing a
Judeo-Christian Alliance and while you are at try to discern the true meaning
of:

Matthew 7:13-23 :: King James Version (KJV)
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way,
that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life,
and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but
inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs
of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree
bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring
forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into
the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom
of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy
name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful
works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye
that work iniquity.

Isn't giving greetings or having fellowship with those who deny Jesus came in a
the flesh a work of iniquity or a wicked work?

I.E.

2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not
confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never
receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a
greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."

Is forming alliances with those who deny Jesus came in the flesh as the Messiah
a wise thing to do?

Now start laughing again and play the fool BUT you aren't laughing at me. I gave
no opinion and I used scripture to prove my case which you have not done once!

As Forrest Gump said concerning people like you: "Stupid is as stupid does."

>Scott, I know your repeated failure is frustrating, but try and get

>out into the community and at least attempt to make Xxxxxxxx a
>better place.

Where I live is irrelevant but being the sort you are I know you are trying to
open me to more harassment which the anti-Christs have already done to me! They
will get theirs in future days when the one they deny comes to judge one and
all.

>I think you'll feel better doing something positive
>instead of blaming others.

Who have I blamed other than those who warrant such?

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>And again, should you decide to convert to
>Christianity, I wish you and Bruno a Merry Christmas.

You are the one who needs to Convert. You and your fellows have abandoned the
path long ago when you all accepted your thirty pieces of silver to betray Jesus
and ally yourselves with those who deny him.

BTW show where 1st Century Christians celebrated Christmas.

>Chris
Tavish

How First Century Christianity Was Treated by Jews:
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Roxanne Kedge

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Hello Tavish

How are you today?

> If they claim a Judeo-Christian alliance exists then they are wrong!

My problem is that... 99% of American consider themselves "Judeo-Christian"
and that Jesus was the Jew and that makes G-D a Jew!..

How do you explain this? I can cite many link of church if you linke if you
require such proof..

I love to know what you have to say about this...

James Gregory McTavish

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<brhplg$3do4e$1...@ID-211543.news.uni-berlin.de> Roxanne Kedge
<missro...@excite.com> wrote:

>Hello Tavish
>
>How are you today?
>
>> If they claim a Judeo-Christian alliance exists then they are wrong!
>
>My problem is that... 99% of American consider themselves "Judeo-Christian"

Remember who is teaching them such and also remember this:

I.E.

>and that Jesus was the Jew

He was a Jew by birth in the flesh-- a fact I have never denied though my
enemies have accused me of such. For a fact the very fi4rst of the 1st Century
Christians were also Jews and a man named Cornelius was the first recorded
Gentile to be baptized into the New Covenant of Jesus.

>and that makes G-D a Jew!..

First Jesus is NOT God as Christendom teaches. Jesus is God's son and Jesus even
said these words which Christendom chooses to ignore n order to preserve their
traditions:

I addressed these scriptures and remarks to another person who was trying to
call me a liar for saying Jesus is NOT God:

<START>

Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, `Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

Matthew 11:27 All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows
the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those
to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

Matthew 18:19 Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything
you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven.

Matthew 26 Matthew 26:28-30 I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the
vine from now on until that day when I drink it anew with you in my Father's
kingdom.

Matthew 26:39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and
prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as
I will, but as you will."

IF JESUS IS GOD WHY WOULD HE HAVE PRAYED THE ABOVE?

Matthew 26:42 He went away a second time and prayed, "My Father, if it is not
possible for this cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done.

IF JESUS IS GOD THEN WHO DID HE PRAY TO?

Matthew 26:53 Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put
at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?

Luke 10:22 All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows who
the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son
and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

Luke 23:46 Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit
my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.

Luke 24:49 I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the
city until you have been clothed with power from on high.

John 5:17 Jesus said to them, "My Father is always at his work to this very
day, and I, too, am working."

John 5:43 I have come in my Father's name, and you do not accept me;

John 8:16 But if I do judge, my decisions are right, because I am not alone. I
stand with the Father, who sent me.

John 8:18 I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father,
who sent me.

John 8:19 Then they asked him, "Where is your father?" "You do not know me or
my Father," Jesus replied. "If you knew me, you would know my Father also."

HOW ON EARTH CAN MILLIONS OF PEOPLE CLAIM TO BE CHRISTIAN AND NOT KNOW WHO THE
FATHER IS WHICH MEANS KNOWING HIS NAME!?

John 8:28 So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will
know that I am [the one I claim to be] and that I do nothing on my own but speak
just what the Father has taught me.

John 8:42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for


I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.

John 8:49 "I am not possessed by a demon," said Jesus, "but I honor my Father
and you dishonor me.

John 8:54 Jesus replied, "If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My
Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me.

AT LEAST THE PHARISEES AT THAT TIME CLAIMED JESUS' FATHER AS THEIR GOD WHICH IS
MORE THAN 21st CENTURY "CHISTIANS" ARE DOING!

John 10:25 Jesus answered, "I did tell you, but you do not believe. The
miracles I do in my Father's name speak for me,

--------

John 10:29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can
snatch them out of my Father's hand.

Compare the above to this:

John 14:28 You heard me say, `I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If
you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is
greater than I.

<<If Jesus were God then would he say his Father is greater than he is!!!!?>>

John 10:36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent
into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, `I am
God's Son'?

NOTICE WHO JESUS SAID HE WAS YET YOU SAY: "Jesus is God."

John 12:49 For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me
commanded me what to say and how to say it.

John 14:7 If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on,
you do know him and have seen him."

GET THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE ABOVE WHO ALL CLAIM TO BE CHRISTIAN?

John 14:23 Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My
Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.

John 14:24 He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you
hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

ARE PEOPLE WHO TEACH THE TRINITY TEACHING WHAT JESUS TAUGHT?

John 4 (KJV) Jesus said:
23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the
Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in
truth.

John 20:
17 Jesus said to her, "Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to the
Father; but go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father
and your Father, to my God and your God."

I as well as ALL 1st Century Christians worship Jesus' God and Father just as
Jesus said the true worshippers will do. What is the opposite of true
worshipper? Out of all the Churches of Christendom and all of sects and
denominations how many of them declare the Father's name and worship the Father
as Jesus said true worshippers would? Remember the two roads Ray? The broad and
the narrow?

Matthew 7
13 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road
that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few
find it.
15 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but
inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

<END>

>and that makes G-D a Jew!.

God is NOT a Jew, nor is he white, nor is he black nor is he anything those who
claim to be scholars teach about him.

Jesus said: 24 "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in
spirit and in truth."

The Bible also states:

John 1:18 :: King James Version (KJV)
"No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom
of the Father, he hath declared him."

YET thousands saw Jesus! And it was Jesus who was: "the only begotten Son, which
is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."

>How do you explain this?

I did above.

>I can cite many link of church if you linke if you require such proof..

That's Okay-- I know what Christendom espouses. They also overlook what Jesus
stated here and when Christendom's clergy invents a "Judeo-Christian Alliance"
they are allying themselves with the very people who denied Jesus as the Messiah
came in the flesh and who Jesus also called Children of the Devil as the
scriptures state here:

CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL IDENTIFIED:

John 8:1-6,31,37-49 :: New International Version (NIV)


1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
2 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered
around him, and he sat down to teach them.
3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in
adultery. They made her stand before the group
4 and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.
5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?"
6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing
him.

<<The above scripture shows who Jesus was addressing and it shows they were
trying to trap him in his speech-- a trait the Pharisee devils have honed over
the past 2000 years I might add!>>

31 To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, "If you hold to my teaching,
you are really my disciples.

<<Only those Jews who believed in Jesus were looked upon favorably and those who
didn't are addressed in the following scripture. Verse 31 also proves that NOT
all Jews are the Children of the Devil as some people want to teach.>>

37 I know you are Abraham's descendants. Yet you are ready to kill me, because

RELIGION OF PHARISEES IDENTIFIED WITH PROOF THEY ARE HOSTILE TO ALL MEN:

NOTE: Saul later became the Apostle Paul after being "converted" on the road
to Damascus and here is his confession of what he did to Christians:

Acts 22:1,2,4,5-8,19,20 (English-RSV)
1[Apostle Paul speaks]"Brethren and fathers, hear the defense which I
now make before you."
2 And when they heard that he addressed them in the Hebrew language,
they were the more quiet. And he said:
4 I persecuted this Way to the death, binding and delivering to prison
both men and women,
5 as the high priest and the whole council of elders bear me witness.
From them I received letters to the brethren, and I journeyed to
Damascus to take those also who were there and bring them in bonds to
Jerusalem to be punished.
6 "As I made my journey and drew near to Damascus, about noon a great
light from heaven suddenly shone about me.
7 And I fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to me, 'Saul,
Saul, why do you persecute me?'
8 And I answered, 'Who are you, Lord?' And he said to me, 'I am Jesus
of Nazareth whom you are persecuting.' ......
19 And I said, 'Lord, they themselves know that in every synagogue I
imprisoned and beat those who believed in thee. [YLT version: and I
said, Lord, they -- they know that I was imprisoning and was scourging
in every synagogue those believing on thee]
20 And when the blood of Stephen thy witness was shed, I also was
standing by and approving, and keeping the garments of those who
killed him.' ....

More of Apostle Paul confessing and repenting from his wickedness:

Acts 26:9-11 (English-RSV)
9 "I myself was convinced that I ought to do many things in opposing
the name of Jesus of Nazareth.
10 And I did so in Jerusalem; I not only shut up many of the saints in
prison, by authority from the chief priests, but when they were put to
death I cast my vote against them.
11 And I punished them often in all the synagogues and tried to make
them blaspheme; and in raging fury against them, I persecuted them
even to foreign cities.

{The Apostle Paul was really some sort of a vicious "Nazi" wasn't he
when he existed as a Pharisee named Saul? He did all of this
persecution in the name of Judaism! Proof below.}

Galatians 1:1,13,14 (English-RSV)
1 Paul an apostle--not from men nor through man, but through Jesus
Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead--
13 For you have heard of my former life in Judaism, how I persecuted
the church of God violently and tried to destroy it;
14 and I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my
people, so extremely zealous was I for the traditions of my fathers.

Acts 26:1,4,5 (English-RSV)


1 Agrippa said to Paul, "You have permission to speak for yourself."
Then Paul stretched out his hand and made his defense:
4 "My manner of life from my youth, spent from the beginning among my
own nation and at Jerusalem, is known by all the Jews.
5 They have known for a long time, if they are willing to testify,
that according to the strictest party of our religion I have lived as
a Pharisee.

1 Thessalonians 2:14,15 (English-NIV):


14 For you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea,
which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the
same things those churches suffered from the Jews,
15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out.
They displease God and are hostile to all men.

ANTI-CHRIST IDENTIFIED:

Christ=Messiah:

>I love to know what you have to say about this...

I wish to say nothing-- rather I want the scriptures to say it all.
If you are opened minded and have no pre-conceived notions against accepting
what the mainstream casts aside then you will know what the above means.

Judaism and TRUE CHRISTIANITY were not allied in the 1st Century and neither are
they today! Or as the Apostle Paul stated:

2 Corinthians 6:14-17 :: King James Version (KJV)
14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship
hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with
darkness?

15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that
believeth with an infidel?

<Do the teachings of the Apostle Paul indicate he would endorse a


"Judeo/Christian Alliance" when he forsook being a Pharisee and
abandoned Judaism as the following scripture proves?>

Galatians 1:1,13,14 (English-RSV)
1 Paul an apostle--not from men nor through man, but through Jesus
Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead--
13 For you have heard of my former life in Judaism, how I persecuted
the church of God violently and tried to destroy it;
14 and I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my
people, so extremely zealous was I for the traditions of my fathers.

Are Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Billy and Franklin Graham, Oral Roberts ET AL
observing the teachings which are easy to understand above OR do they prefer to
go against the Apostle John's admonition of:

2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not
confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never
receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a
greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."

Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Billy and Franklin Graham, Oral Roberts ET AL
teach an Anti-Christ as being one man who comes in the future YET the Bible
plainly states:

1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard
that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists."

How would the below apply to those who teach otherwise?



1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is
the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those who are trying to
mislead you!"

Tavish

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=5rhktv483m9oofgqt8goir93o4pm08ht49%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED: 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage in Holocaust Denial in
Addition to Their anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism
Message-ID: <5rhktv483m9oofgqt...@4ax.com>
Date: 12 Dec 2003 22:57:48 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rqbetvcbda7er4vl25008qo2uetssudk52%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism V3.0d
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:53:59 -0600
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_______________________________________________________________________________

Roxanne Kedge

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Thanks Tavish. This is a great help. But I suspect most of our fellow
european will do what Electronic Excrement = TV and Big Priest will tell
them which is" Jesus was a Jew and that makes G-D a Jews".

Most people have a very limited range of real life experiences. Television
and films and glossy magazine advertisements provide an enormous expansion
of experience for the average person, by substituting artificial
experiences for real experiences. On the television screen viewers
experience artificial social relationships, artificial romances, artificial
conflicts, artificial life. In advertisements they are given artificial
ideals of beauty and fashion, artificial life-styles to which they can
aspire. And in their newspapers and newsmagazines they are given a
carefully filtered, a carefully slanted, view of what is happening in the
world.

Unfortunately most people do not have sufficient powers of discrimination to
distinguish the artificial world of the media from the real world of
everyday experience. The two worlds merge in their minds, and they can't
tell them apart. What people see on the television screen is not just
entertainment; it is a collection of artificial experiences which merges
with their collection of real experiences and gives them a new and largely
artificial basis for evaluating things and making decisions.

Same goes for perverse advertiseents. The advertisements manipulate people's
desires and motivations. In a similar way television entertainment
manipulates viewers psychologically. It changes their values and attitudes.
It strongly affects the way they see things -- including political issues,
political candidates and religious issues and religious candidates (a la
homosexual priest).

Now, you know what I think of 90% of people :)


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James Gregory McTavish <JG_McT...@NoSpamPlease.net> wrote in message news:<9tuotv03ckcoa47gm...@4ax.com>...

> On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 08:48:14 -0500,
> <brhplg$3do4e$1...@ID-211543.news.uni-berlin.de> Roxanne Kedge
> <missro...@excite.com> wrote:
>
> >Hello Tavish
> >
> >How are you today?
> >
> >> If they claim a Judeo-Christian alliance exists then they are wrong!
> >
> >My problem is that... 99% of American consider themselves "Judeo-Christian"
>
> Remember who is teaching them such and also remember this:
>
> Matthew 7:13-23 :: King James Version (KJV)

So tell us how the Old Testament (shared by Jews and Christians),
made it's way into the King James bible- the bible that you decided to
quote! LOL! Since you are such a religious scholar, I pronounce you
the Rev Tavish.

James Gregory McTavish

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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:04:05 -0500,
<brito4$3pve1$1...@ID-211543.news.uni-berlin.de> Roxanne Kedge
<missro...@excite.com> wrote:

>Thanks Tavish. This is a great help. But I suspect most of our fellow
>european will do what Electronic Excrement = TV and Big Priest will tell
>them which is" Jesus was a Jew and that makes G-D a Jews".
>

Don't be pessimistic. I know it is easy to be such at times BUT people are
slowly but surely waking up! Things are taking a new direction and gaining
momentum and your are now aware to be able to appreciate it. Just a few years
ago stuff such as below was not happening!

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:24:19 -0800, <3fdc02a2$0$17...@news.impulse.net> "Waldo"
<Wald...@hushmail.com> wrote:

>[cue violin solo]
>
>Alas, it looks as if the Jews' Holocaust Honeymoon with Germany may finally
>be coming to an end.
>
>A new poll shows that nearly 70% of Germans are starting to wake up, roll
>over and smell the stench of what's been *LYING* in their bed.
>
>
>Source: Guardian Limited - UK
>
><< FAIR USE INTENDED: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the
>following material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed
>a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and
>educational purposes. For more information go to
>http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml >>
>
><BEGIN ARTICLE>
>
>_____________________________________
>
>Germans fed up with war legacy
>
>Reuters in Berlin
>Friday December 12, 2003
>The Guardian
>
>Almost 70% of Germans say they are annoyed at being held responsible for the
>Holocaust and many believe Jews use Germany's Nazi past to their advantage,
>a survey showed yesterday.
>
>The survey by Bielefeld University showed 69.9% were irritated at still
>being held responsible today for crimes against Jews.
>
>A quarter of 3,000 people surveyed also agreed with the statement: "Many
>Jews try to use Germany's Third Reich past to their advantage and want to
>make Germans pay for it." A further 30% said there was "some truth" to the
>statement.
>
>Almost two-thirds said they believed too many foreigners live in Germany,
>while 30% said foreigners should be sent home when jobs are scarce.
>
>Endorsing the survey, the German parliamentary president, Wolfgang Thierse,
>said he understood why so many people wanted to shed guilt for what happened
>before they were born. He said the survey did not prove there was widespread
>anti-Jewish sentiment.
>
>The authors of the survey said they found that Germans who were worried
>about security threats and losing their jobs had become more hostile to
>Jews, Muslims, and immigrants.
>
>_____________________________________
>
><END ARTICLE>
>
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,2763,1105247,00.html
(Link active December 14, 2003. Archived locally as: FedUpInGermany)

>Oy vey. But surely you didn't think it would last forever... did you?
>
>
>**
>
>Waldo
>
>Observer at Large

Great post Waldo- you are a credit to all non-Jews who are fed up with the
anti-Christs and their hypocrisy. They complain about one event they named the
Holocaust YET they deny the two Holocausts they have waged and the third they
are now waging in Palestine!

I have these articles in distribution in Germany and hopefully the Germans will
be wised up even more!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=5rhktv483m9oofgqt8goir93o4pm08ht49%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED: 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage in Holocaust Denial in
Addition to Their anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism
Message-ID: <5rhktv483m9oofgqt...@4ax.com>
Date: 12 Dec 2003 22:57:48 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rqbetvcbda7er4vl25008qo2uetssudk52%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism V3.0d
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:53:59 -0600
Message-ID: <rqbetvcbda7er4vl2...@4ax.com>

The two articles have already been picked up by others and are being distributed
as well!

I will re-compile this archive and re-post it too!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=93g2qvknrpgei97r614nkdae8va7lo7gpr%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Anti-Semitism in Sweden (Expanded)
Message-ID: <93g2qvknrpgei97r6...@4ax.com>
Date: 30 Oct 2003 16:55:09 GMT
[The above archive relates to the rising anti-Semitism in Sweden, Greece,
France, Germany, The United States and elsewhere!]

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When my enemies attack me it makes me stronger and it gives me even more resolve
to expose them for the evil devils they truly are!

>Most people have a very limited range of real life experiences. Television
>and films and glossy magazine advertisements provide an enormous expansion
>of experience for the average person, by substituting artificial
>experiences for real experiences. On the television screen viewers
>experience artificial social relationships, artificial romances, artificial
>conflicts, artificial life. In advertisements they are given artificial
>ideals of beauty and fashion, artificial life-styles to which they can
>aspire. And in their newspapers and newsmagazines they are given a
>carefully filtered, a carefully slanted, view of what is happening in the
>world.

Here is who feeds television and people are getting wise to it too!

http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=5g60cvop57p127sed...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Nizkor Org's Director Ken McVay is " Who Fools America?" R_0512
Message-ID: <5g60cvop57p127sed...@4ax.com>
Date: 12 May 2003 22:04:46 GMT

>Unfortunately most people do not have sufficient powers of discrimination to
>distinguish the artificial world of the media from the real world of
>everyday experience. The two worlds merge in their minds, and they can't
>tell them apart. What people see on the television screen is not just
>entertainment; it is a collection of artificial experiences which merges
>with their collection of real experiences and gives them a new and largely
>artificial basis for evaluating things and making decisions.
>
>Same goes for perverse advertiseents. The advertisements manipulate people's
>desires and motivations. In a similar way television entertainment
>manipulates viewers psychologically. It changes their values and attitudes.
>It strongly affects the way they see things -- including political issues,
>political candidates and religious issues and religious candidates (a la
>homosexual priest).
>
>Now, you know what I think of 90% of people :)

Most people are too lazy to think for themselves so they let others tell them
what to think aka the herd mentality. It really takes effort to actually think.
People will give money to the Falwells and the Falwells tel them what they want
to hear and which makes them feel good.

Tavish

James Gregory McTavish

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larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson) wrote:

>James Gregory McTavish <JG_McT...@NoSpamPlease.net> wrote in message news:
<9tuotv03ckcoa47gm...@4ax.com>...
>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 08:48:14 -0500,
>> <brhplg$3do4e$1...@ID-211543.news.uni-berlin.de> Roxanne Kedge

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>> <missro...@excite.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hello Tavish
>> >
>> >How are you today?
>> >
>> >> If they claim a Judeo-Christian alliance exists then they are wrong!
>> >
>> >My problem is that... 99% of American consider themselves "Judeo-Christian"
>>
>> Remember who is teaching them such and also remember this:
>>
>> Matthew 7:13-23 :: King James Version (KJV)
>
>So tell us how the Old Testament (shared by Jews and Christians),

Christians are not under the Law of the Old Testament and I have already given
proof but you chose to ignore it!

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Subject: Old Covenant Vs New -- New Covenant Replaces Old Covenant (Jews NO
Longer God's Chosen People & Entitled to "Israel" So Says the Scripture!)
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Excerpt

Here is Jesus foretelling of the current temple destruction and the
casting off of the Jews who presumed to still have G-d's approval:

Matthew 21:33-46 (English-RSV)
33 [Jesus said] "Hear another parable. There was a householder who planted
a vineyard, and set a hedge around it, and dug a wine press in it, and
built a tower, and let it out to tenants, and went into another country.
34 When the season of fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the
tenants, to get his fruit;
35 and the tenants took his servants and beat one, killed another, and
stoned another.
36 Again he sent other servants, more than the first; and they did the
same to them.
37 Afterward he sent his son to them, saying, 'They will respect my son.'
38 But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, 'This is the
heir; come, let us kill him and have his inheritance.'
39 And they took him and cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him. 40
When therefore the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those
tenants?"
41 They said to him, "He will put those wretches to a miserable death, and
let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in
their seasons."
42 Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the scriptures: 'The very
stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner; this
was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes'?
43 Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you
and given to a nation producing the fruits of it."
44 _
45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they
perceived that he was speaking about them.
46 But when they tried to arrest him, they feared the multitudes, because
they held him to be a prophet.

Yes, Jesus foretold the Kingdom being ripped away from "The Chosen[TM]"
and they knew that he was talking about them too! The nation that will be
producing the fruits are the Gentiles and any Jew that believes in the
Son.

What did Jesus say regarding the temple becoming ruins?

Matthew 24:1,2 (English-RSV)
1 Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to
point out to him the buildings of the temple.
2 But he answered them, "You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to
you, there will not be left here one stone upon another, that will not be
thrown down."

As we all know the temple has been in ruins since 70 AD. This should be
obvious that the Pharisees and their descendants did not have God's favor
and to this very hour do not have G-d's favor!

Don't forget:

Romans 11
7 What then? What Israel sought so earnestly it did not obtain, but the elect
did. The others were hardened,
8 as it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes so that they could
not see and ears so that they could not hear, to this very day."
9 And David says: "May their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block
and a retribution for them.
10 May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see, and their backs be bent
forever."
11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all!
Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to
make Israel envious.
12 But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means
riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their fullness bring!

Jews are no longer the chosen and the temple being in ruins is testament to it!

BTW

Colossians 3
11 Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian,
Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.
12 Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves
with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.

1 Peter 2
1 Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and
slander of every kind.
2 Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up
in your salvation,
3 now that you have tasted that the Lord is good.
4 As you come to him, the living Stone--rejected by men but chosen by God and
precious to him--
5 you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a
holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus
Christ.
6 For in Scripture it says: "See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious
cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."
7 Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not
believe, "The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone, "
8 and, "A stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall."
They stumble because they disobey the message--which is also what they were
destined for.
9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people
belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of
darkness into his wonderful light.

WHO ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE TODAY CHRIS C. LARSON?

4 You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you
have fallen away from grace.
5 But by faith we eagerly await through the Spirit the righteousness for which
we hope.

YET PEOPLE LIKE CHRIS C. LARSON ALLIES HIMSELF WITH PEOPLE WHO DENY CHRIST AND
WANT TO PUT EVERYONE BACK UNDER SUBJECTION TO THE LAW IN OPPOSITION TO WHAT 1st
CENTURY CHRISTIANS TAUGHT!!! (Care to deny it Chris or will you keep running
your mouth and acting like a fool!?)

The ONLY interest the Old Testament has for Christians is the historical aspect
and the Proverbs and Psalms are pleasant to read and ponder BUT Christians are
NOT under the Law of Moses which was done away with by the New Covenant.

>made it's way into the King James bible- the bible that you decided to
>quote! LOL! Since you are such a religious scholar,

I, unlike you, use scriptures to bolster my claims YET you can only make
infantile ridicule which only reflects on you! Anyone reading the links in the
header info at the top of this post and follow the progression will see all you
have been doing is ridiculing and me quoting scriptures! You act just like the
very Pharisees you have an alliance with!

>I pronounce you the Rev Tavish.

You, yourself, say it.

Stay the ridiculer and stay the fool-- it's no sweat off my back.

Tavish

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
Message-ID: <vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT

How First Century Christianity Was Treated by Jews:


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=m1p5nv4es86j78p5dr5pe41l8pi3vfcst0%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives &
Research) V2.5 R_0925
Message-ID: <m1p5nv4es86j78p5d...@4ax.com>
Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:49 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av6qpr9882esa96oaav%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Babylon the Great - Religious Persecution, Torture, Harassment R_0524
Message-ID: <k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:17 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2jgq8d7orrpfhm3j09%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: The Apostle Paul on Judaized Jews R_0524
Message-ID: <i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:25 GMT

The first "Holocaust" was not Gentiles (Nazis) Against Jews

BUT was Jews (Communists) Against Christian Kulaks!!!

How Later Christianity was/is treated by Jews:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=upe9kvor1pdvm2ifa8sfa0qfboa6ull055%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Comparing Israel's "Anti-Christ Activism" to Other Middle East Nations
is NOT a Valid Comparison V2.5 R_0821
Message-ID: <upe9kvor1pdvm2ifa...@4ax.com>
Date: 21 Aug 2003 12:22:34 GMT

Jewish Led Bolsheviks Scalped & Crucified Christians by Philippa Fletcher
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=34c17d0f.1410012285%40news.smart1.net&rnum=7
Subject: Bolsheviks Scalped and Crucified Christians -
Date: 1998/01/18
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James Gregory McTavish

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YES! My subject title is 100% accurate- 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage in


Holocaust Denial in Addition to Their anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism

FOREWORD: I now show in this one post a major flub-a-dub by the Jews in the 1st

~~~~~~~~~~

Examples of returns:

Dear Archibishop Montalvo:

<END>

John 19:6-16 (English-RSV)

1 Thessalonians 2:14,15 (English-NIV):


14 For you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea,
which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the
same things those churches suffered from the Jews,
15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out.
They displease God and are hostile to all men.

Notice the fine points made by the Apostle Paul in this little bit of
scripture!

I.E.

10 And they were not able to resist the wisdom and the spirit by which he
spake.

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Subject: UPDATED The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives &
Research) V2.5 R_0925
Message-ID: <m1p5nv4es86j78p5d...@4ax.com>
Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:49 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av6qpr9882esa96oaav%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Babylon the Great - Religious Persecution, Torture, Harassment R_0524
Message-ID: <k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:17 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2jgq8d7orrpfhm3j09%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: The Apostle Paul on Judaized Jews R_0524
Message-ID: <i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:25 GMT

Jews through the Communism they conceived and first implemented as a Soviet


State under Bolshevism waged a second Holocaust against Christians in the 20th
Century and this too took place BEFORE Hitler and his Nazis came to power in
1933!

Here is the Second Holocaust waged by Jews against Christians in the 20th
Century:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rqbetvcbda7er4vl25008qo2uetssudk52%404ax.com&rnum=1


Subject: Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism V3.0d
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:53:59 -0600
Message-ID: <rqbetvcbda7er4vl2...@4ax.com>

The above archive documents the inception of communism as an ideology as well as

[...]

[...]

I.E.

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Subject: Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism V3.0d
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:53:59 -0600
Message-ID: <rqbetvcbda7er4vl2...@4ax.com>

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Subject: Socialism Imported Into America, Canada, Rumania, Hungary, Poland,
Germany, Ukraine, Palestine (Israel) Etc. by Jews (In Their Own Words People!)
V1.0 First Edition
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The ironic thing about all of the above is that the Churches of Christendom now
ignore the history of what Jews have done to Christians and they are now
paralyzed with guilt feelings by such tactics as the Wiesenthal Center and other
organizations which evoke feelings of guilt in uninformed masses to cover for
their own genocide! Two wrongs do not make a right BUT for Jews to deny TWO
Holocausts they have waged against Christians and uninformed adherents of
Christendom being made to feel guilty is the pinnacle of bedevilment by the
original Children of the Father of Lies-- The Devil.

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>Had a White Gentile or Arab done this it would be all over the news.

http://wais.stanford.edu/History/history_KennedyAssassination(092803).html

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--Jewish Tradition will NEVER teach Non-Jews as being equals--

Yitzchak Goodman

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On the Supposed Non-Russian Character of Bolshevism


[begin quote]

The active role of non-Russians in the revolutionary parties
naturally resulted in their having a significant presence in
the government bodies that began to take shape after the October
revolution. In evaluating the importance of this fact, however,
all the contributing factors should be taken into account, rather
than drawing up arbitrary lists or devising tables of arbitrary
facts based on preconceived notions.
For example, those who wish to demonstrate the "alien"
character of the first agencies of Soviet power point to the fact
that the chairman of the Central Executive Committee of the
Soviets was Sverdlov, a Jew, and that the head of the Cheka was
Dzerzhinsky, a Pole, and that the head of the Red Army was Trotsky,
also a Jew. In the summer of 1918 the most battleworthy unit
of the Red Army was the Latvian Division, while many combat
units of the Cheka were made up of Hungarians, Czechs, Chinese,
Latvians, and Finns. In focusing on these facts, however,
many more important ones were ignored.
The Sixth Congress of the Bolshevik party was its
last before the October Revolution. This was the congress
that approved the policy of armed insurrection and the delegates
to this congress became the main driving force in the leadership
of the October revolution in the capital and local areas. What
did this congress represent from a national point of view?
Of the delegates at the congress 55 percent were Russians,
3 percent were Georgians and Armenians, 17.5 percent were Jews,
10 percent Latvians, 4 percent Poles, and 3.5 percent Lithuanians
and Estonians. The Congress elected a Central Committee
consisting of twenty-eight full and candidate members.
Sixteen of them were Russians or Russified Ukrainians,
six were Jews, two were Georgians, two Latvians, one was
Armenian, and one a Pole. These figures reveal the
significant political activism of Jews and Latvians in 1917,
but certainly they do not confirm the thesis that the role
of Jewish and Latvian revolutionaries was decisive.
The main government body after the October revolution
was the Sovnarkom, or Council of People's Commissars, elected
by the Second Congress of Soviets. The first Sovnarkom
consisted of twelve Russians, one Pole, one Georgian, and
one Jew. Although Trotsky was the head of the Red Army,
Russians made up the bulk of the command staff, including
more than ten thousand former officers of the tsarist army.
It is true that many "internationalist" units fought on the
side of the Soviet power--Hungarians, Czechs, Germans,
Latvians, Chinese--but altogether they constituted an
insignificant part of the Red Army, which totaled three
million and was predominantly Russian.
At the height of the civil war in March 1919, the
Eighth Party Congress was held in Moscow. As can be seen by
the questionnaires that were filled out, 63 percent of
the delegates were Russians, 16 percent Jews, 7 percent
Latvians, 4 percent Ukrainians, and 3 percent Poles.
At the Ninth Party Congress out of the 530 delegates
who filled out questionnaires 70 percent were Russians,
14.5 percent Jews, 6 percent Latvians, 3 percent
Ukrainians, 2 percent Belorussians. All other national groups
at the congress added up to 4 percent. As we can see, there
was an obvious tendency for the number of Russians to increase
and the number of Jews and Latvians to decline.
The myth of the non-Russian, or more narrowly,
the Jewish character of the October Revolution and
Soviet government first arose during the civil war. The
White Guard press, and later the Russian emigre press were
full of references to the "Kike-Bolshevik commissars" and
the "Kike-Bolshevik Red Army." Even the London Times wrote
on March 5, 1919, that Jews held 75 percent of the leading
positions in the RSFSR. The proceedings of the 439th and
469th sessions of the U.S. Senate contain the assertion
that "in 1918 the Government in Petrograd consisted of 16
Russians and 371 Jews, with 265 of those Jews having come from
New York." The story is still being told in many Russian emigre
publications, though not in such fantastic form.
The figures I have quoted above provide in my opinion
a sufficiently convincing refutation of this tale. The national
composition of the Politburo of the Bolshevik Party provides
additional refutation. In 1922 there were four Russians, three
Jews, and one Georgian on the Politburo. By 1927, however--
ten years before Stalin's alleged "national revolution"--the
Politburo consisted of thirteen Russians, two Ukrainians, one
Georgian, one Armenian, and one Jew.

[end quote]

(Roy Medvedev, Let History Judge, Trans. George Shriver,
Columbia University Press, 1989, pp. 559-560)

Yitz

Yitzchak Goodman

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Roger

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><<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C.Sec. 107. - Limitations on exclusive
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Of course, the Shame of Belleville, Mesopotamia qualifies under none
of the above categories, nor has anyone expressed any such interest
given that this has nothing to do with the historical facts of the
Holocaust nor the denial thereof (nor with American culture,
republican politics, Rush Limbaugh, G. Gordon Liddy, conspiracies or
white nationalism)

Beaver Cleaver

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The people are very interested in seeing how Jews and their Gentile Stooges
scramble to attempt damage control! I notice you can't refute one single post I
have made too which speaks volumes of you and YOUR agenda!

Tavish


-- The Apostle Paul says much about Pharisaic Jews in two Bible scriptures:


1 Thessalonians 2:14,15 (English-NIV):
14 For you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea,
which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the
same things those churches suffered from the Jews,
15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out.
They displease God and are hostile to all men.

Notice the fine points made by the Apostle Paul in just
two verses of scripture!
He brought out in just two verses:


1) "those churches suffered from the Jews" Those sweet harmless
little Jews were committing "hate crimes" against Christians!

2) "the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus" The Apostle Paul was not the least bit
bashful about telling people "who killed the Lord Jesus" which the Churches of
Christendom won't do!


3) "They displease God.." The Temple is still in ruins as a testament
to that fact! Undeniable wouldn't you say? And last BUT certainly not
least by any stretch of the imagination:
4) "They (Jews) are hostile to all men."

Regarding "2) "the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus" The Apostle Paul was
not the least bit bashful about telling people "who killed the Lord Jesus"
which the Churches of Christendom won't do!" see this archive:


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I might as well throw this in seeing how I mentioned "Hate Crimes."
Historically, who do most people think were more brutal- Nazis or
Pharisees?

(One example) Persecution and torture:
Matthew 23:34 (English-RSV)
[Jesus warned] "Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of
whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will scourge in your synagogues and
persecute from town to town...." [Tavish comment: The words just stated were
addressed to the Jewish Pharisee Rabbis!]

[To scourge means to lash or whip severely. Imagine Jews chasing people from
town to town and flogging them in their Jewish synagogues! I don't think even
the Nazis rounded up Jews and flogged them in Christian Churches!! What Jews
did happened and it is documented in the Bible for all to see! Tavish]


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Roger

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>On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:15:42 GMT,
><9faf31d65018e9bb...@news.teranews.com> Roger <roger@ . > wrote:

>>><<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C.Sec. 107. - Limitations on exclusive
>>>rights: Fair use [The fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by
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>>>section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching
>>>(including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not
>>>an infringement of copyright. [I]n any particular case is a fair use the factors
>>>to be considered shall include - (1) whether such use is of a commercial
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>>Of course, the Shame of Belleville, Mesopotamia qualifies under none
>>of the above categories, nor has anyone expressed any such interest
>>given that this has nothing to do with the historical facts of the
>>Holocaust nor the denial thereof (nor with American culture,
>>republican politics, Rush Limbaugh, G. Gordon Liddy, conspiracies or
>>white nationalism)

>The people are very interested in seeing how Jews and their Gentile Stooges
>scramble to attempt damage control! I notice you can't refute one single post I
>have made too which speaks volumes of you and YOUR agenda!

"The people" are, are they? Suppose you name these people in the
groups you posted to?

I notice you can't refute the on topic observations I made regarding
your violation of copyright and off topic posting (nor have you ever
explained why you need to constantly change your nym, when others
avoid unwanted email using the exact same software as you without
such.)

Guess that speaks volumes about *your* agenda...

Roxanne Kedge

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Hello Tavish

> -- The Apostle Paul says much about Pharisaic Jews in two Bible
> scriptures: 1 Thessalonians 2:14,15 (English-NIV):
> 14 For you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea,
> which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the
> same things those churches suffered from the Jews,
> 15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out.
> They displease God and are hostile to all men.

Remember Phi 3:19? Rectum is Jews G-d! Summary: Yahweh lie with man as a dog
with a bitch.


Tiberiah Beni Dan

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You'll end up begging on the streets.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Yes, I have a license to love.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Roxanne Kedge

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> Of course, the Shame of Belleville, Mesopotamia qualifies under none
> of the above categories, nor has anyone expressed any such interest
> given that this has nothing to do with the historical facts of the
> Holocaust nor the denial thereof (nor with American culture,
> republican politics, Rush Limbaugh, G. Gordon Liddy, conspiracies or
> white nationalism)

It's not hard to imagine that your father started substituting his penis for
your mother's nipple soon after you were born.

Ken Lewis

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>Roger wrote:

It's not hard to imagine that you are just another foul-mouthed,
brain-dead, loser who has crawled out from beneath a rock to impress
us with your idiocy.

Roger

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>Roger wrote:

Again, off topic for these groups. Please take your sexual fantasies
elsewhere.

Joebruno

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Roxanne is nuts. Nuts is Roxanne.

Beaver Cleaver

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14 For you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea,
which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the
same things those churches suffered from the Jews,
15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out.
They displease God and are hostile to all men.

Notice the fine points made by the Apostle Paul in this little bit of
scripture!

He brought out in two verses:


1) " those churches suffered from the Jews" Those sweet harmless
little Jews were committing "hate crimes" against Christians!

2) "the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus"


3) "They displease God.." The Temple is still in ruins as a testament
to that fact! Undeniable wouldn't you say? And last BUT certainly not
least by any stretch of the imagination:

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Jews through the Communism they conceived and first implemented as a Soviet

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Roger

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><<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C.Sec. 107. - Limitations on exclusive
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Of course, the Shame of Belleville, Atlantis, qualifies under none of
the above categories, but that doesn't stop zie from changing zir nym
to avoid the kill filed of those in the cross posted groups (most of
which this article is off topic in) who are trying to ignore zie from
the *last* time zie decided to vent air spleen...

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Holocaust Denial in Addition to Their anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism

FOREWORD: I now show in this one post a major flub-a-dub by the Jews in the 1st
Century which I am most positive no Church of Christendom (or anyone else for
that matter) has ever noticed or pointed out. Jews lied to Pilate when they
claimed: "It is not lawful for us to put any man to death." IOW they were
seeking to have the Romans do their dirty work for them! Jews had already put to

death prophets (Matthew 23: 29-34) and after they killed Jesus they murdered 1st


Century Christians in the first Holocaust of two notable Holocausts they have
waged against Christians. Jews stoned the Disciple known as Stephen to death

(among other 1st Century Christians) did they not? See how they lie?

John 18: (English-RSV)
29 So Pilate went out to them and said, "What accusation do you bring
against this man?"
30 They answered him, "If this man were not an evildoer, we would not
have handed him over."
31 Pilate said to them, "Take him yourselves and judge him by your own
law." The Jews said to him, "It is not lawful for us to put any man to
death."

Compare what Jews told Pilate ("It is not lawful for us to put any man to
death.") to what the Bible states below in the words of Jesus to see how the
Jews lied to Pilate:

Matthew 23:29-34 :: King James Version (KJV)
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs
of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been
partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them
which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of
hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and
some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in
your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city..

Looks like Jews were putting people to death to me- thus they lied to Pilate
when they stated: "It is not lawful for us to put any man to death."

Larry Mondello

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>http://www.jewishomaha.org/monsky.htm


Sorry about this folks -- whenever the Shame of Belleville gets his
head handed to him in something approximating discussion over in
alt.rev, he pulls out these off topic copyright violations and posts
them as if they proved anything but his obsession with Jews. He will
also continuously change his nyms for no rational reason other than to
avoid kill filters. He's been Usenet Kook of the Month for obvious
reasons, and unfortunately cannot seem to grasp the concepts of
copyright, netiquette, nor newsgroups having specific topics.

Eddie Haskell

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IOW you can't refute what I post and it makes your heros look bad!

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Roger

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>>>http://www.jewishomaha.org/monsky.htm

No, in my exact words, it's illegal and off topic, and you're a Kook.

Eb Dawson

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Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken

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Yitzchak Goodman

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Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken <F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote in message news:<n7if30h776r56r8pc...@4ax.com>...

There is actually a book on Wall Street financing of the Bolsheviks
that is not conspiracy-kook literature. The bankers in question
were mostly Gentiles.

The following is from Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution
by Antony C. Sutton (Arlington House, 1975), p. 170:

[begin quote]

. . . there is considerable evidence of transfers of funds from
Wall Street bankers to international revolutionary activitites.
For example, there is the statement (substantiated by cablegram)
by William Boyce Thompson--a director of the Federal Reserve Bank
of New York, a large stockholder in the Rockefeller-controlled Chase
Bank, and a financial associate of the Guggenheims and Morgans--that
he (Thompson) contributed $1 million to the Bolshevik Revolution
for propaganda purposes. Another example is John Reed, the American
member of the Third International executive committe, who was
financed and supported by Eugene Boissevain, a private New York
banker, and who was employed by Harry Payne Whitney's Metropolitan
magazine. Whitney was at that time a director of [the Morgan-
controlled] Guaranty Trust. . . . Ludiwig Martens, the first Soviet
"amabassador" to the United States was (according to British
Intelligence chief Sir Basil Thompson) backed by funds from Guaranty
Trust Company. In tracing Trotsky's funding in the U.S. we arrived at
German sources, yet to be identified, in New York. And though we do not
know the precise German source of Trotsky's funds, we do know that Von
Pavenstadt, the chief German espionage paymaster in the U.S., was
also a senior partner of Amsinck & Co. Amsinck was owned by the
ever-present American International Corporation--also controlled
by the J. P. Morgan firm.

[end quote]

Sutton also provides evidence that Schiff was opposed to the Bolsheviks.

Yitz

Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken

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>Subject: Mel Gibson's "The Passion" Film and The Wicked Anti-Christs Who Are
>Persecuting Mel Gibson Exposed
>From: Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET
>Date: 2/24/2004 5:34 AM Pacific Standard Time
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>This is a saver. Thanks, Mr. Tavish.

Fred Ziffel

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to being dominated by Jews whether by zionism, socialism or communism.

<<Tavish comment: Looks like Wayne used material from my:
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=1g60hvoj0b21pn339...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Palestine was Changed to a Socialist Jewish State in 1948 by Ben-Gurion
with Communist Soviet Union's Support Message-ID:
<1g60hvoj0b21pn339...@4ax.com> in his remarks above.>>

I replied to the above with:

From: Yuri Tavishinski <Yuri_Tav...@NO-REPLY-ROOSKIE-001.NET>
Subject: Re: These Holocaust Deniers and Revisionists must be prosecuted for
their Hate Speech

I.E.

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Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
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Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT

>Had a White Gentile or Arab done this it would be all over the news.

http://wais.stanford.edu/History/history_KennedyAssassination(092803).html

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Joel S. Kaplan
International President

202-857-6553 pres...@bnaibrith.org

Daniel S. Mariaschin
Executive Vice President

Cheerful Pickle

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Fred Ziffel wrote:

>
> FOREWORD: I now show in this one post a major flub-a-dub by the Jews in
> the 1st Century which I am most positive no Church of Christendom (or
> anyone else for that matter) has ever noticed or pointed out. Jews lied to
> Pilate when they claimed: "It is not lawful for us to put any man to
> death." IOW they were seeking to have the Romans do their dirty work for
> them! Jews had already put to death prophets (Matthew 23: 29-34) and after
> they killed Jesus they murdered 1st Century Christians in the first
> Holocaust of two notable Holocausts they have waged against Christians.
> Jews stoned the Disciple known as Stephen to death (among other 1st
> Century Christians) did they not? See how they lie?

Hi, Fred,

Strictly speaking you have things exactly backwards. History records that
Rome actually did forbid the Jews to carry out capital punishment.
However, they were pretty lax in enforcing the decree. Jesus, unlike
Stephen, was a very major public figure. It is quite possible that the
Jewish leadership feared possible political repercussions of executing such
a prominent person in what would be strictly speaking an unlawful manner,
while they could execute Joe Nobody with little fear of consequences. By
having Rome execute a prominent figure, they did not need to worry about
someone complaining to Pilate about them unlawfully killing an incredibly
popular figure. Remember, less than a week earlier a tumultuous crowd
greeted Him as He rode into Jerusalem on a donkey. In the case of Jesus,
they followed Roman law to the letter. It was in the case of Stephen that
they were totally wrong, even by Roman standards. Also, do not forget that
if it was legal for them to execute someone then surely Pilate would have
known that and told them not to bug him with their concerns.


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To email me, please remove "postheap" from my email address. Thanks.

Joe

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"Fred Ziffel" <fred_...@GreenAcresRFD12.net> wrote in message

<snip>

I could care less what you say, I just like the name Fred Ziffel. It's
comforting. And I can relate to it.

Joe


Ward Cleaver

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YES! My subject title is 100% accurate- 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage in
Holocaust Denial in Addition to Their anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism

FOREWORD: I now show in this one post a major flub-a-dub by the Jews in the 1st


Century which I am most positive no Church of Christendom (or anyone else for
that matter) has ever noticed or pointed out. Jews lied to Pilate when they
claimed: "It is not lawful for us to put any man to death." IOW they were
seeking to have the Romans do their dirty work for them! Jews had already put to
death prophets (Matthew 23: 29-34) and after they killed Jesus they murdered 1st
Century Christians in the first Holocaust of two notable Holocausts they have
waged against Christians. Jews stoned the Disciple known as Stephen to death
(among other 1st Century Christians) did they not? See how they lie?

John 18: (English-RSV)


29 So Pilate went out to them and said, "What accusation do you bring
against this man?"
30 They answered him, "If this man were not an evildoer, we would not
have handed him over."
31 Pilate said to them, "Take him yourselves and judge him by your own

law." The Jews said to him, "It is not lawful for us to put any man to
death."

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31 Pilate said to them, "Take him yourselves and judge him by your own

law." The Jews said to him, "It is not lawful for us to put any man to
death."

31 Pilate said to them, "Take him yourselves and judge him by your own

law." The Jews said to him, "It is not lawful for us to put any man to
death."

Key words were: "we would not have handed him over."

Tavish

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YES! My subject title is 100% accurate- 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage in
Holocaust Denial in Addition to Their anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism

FOREWORD: I now show in this one post a major flub-a-dub by the Jews in the 1st
Century which I am most positive no Church of Christendom (or anyone else for
that matter) has ever noticed or pointed out. Jews lied to Pilate when they
claimed: "It is not lawful for us to put any man to death." IOW they were

seeking to have the Romans do their dirty work for them! Jews were already
stoning people to death for various sins (John 8:1-6,42-49,58,59 and John
10:32-34) and Jews had already put to death prophets (Matthew 23:29-35) and


after they killed Jesus they murdered 1st Century Christians in the first
Holocaust of two notable Holocausts they have waged against Christians. Jews

stoned the Disciple known as Stephen to death did they not? (Acts 7:52-60) See
how Jews lie?

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Subject: V3.0e Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism R_1231
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Subject: Socialism Imported Into America, Canada, Rumania, Hungary, Poland,
Germany, Ukraine, Palestine (Israel) Etc. by Jews (In Their Own Words People!)

V2.0 S_0625 Date: 25 Jun 2004 23:08:56 GMT
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http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=t215105htnj0s2ufcrqloe02v0ps0qqe5i%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Israel Kills Palestinian Boys, Steals Organs For Transplants V2.1
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Date: 24 Jan 2004 14:47:48 GMT

Also in light of the above here is how the Modern State of Israel treats all
non-Jews:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=t48jg054lokshm6b2ht2h77l3cb7p5bofp%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Apartheid Laws in Israel (Different Author Series) V3.0
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Date: 30 Jul 2004 01:22:37 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=upe9kvor1pdvm2ifa8sfa0qfboa6ull055%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Comparing Israel's "Anti-Christ Activism" to Other Middle East Nations
is NOT a Valid Comparison V2.5 R_0821
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Date: 21 Aug 2003 12:22:34 GMT

http://wais.stanford.edu/History/history_KennedyAssassination(092803).html

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Tavish

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Own Words Series] V3.0 S_0206 Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 10:14:23 -0600
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Subject: Non-Jews: What is Taught About Them & How They are Viewed by 21st

Century Pharisees V2.1b S_0127
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Date: 28 Jan 2004 05:42:22 GMT


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=b6beevshh8dcr43hk33rafn23fvo2p8c9c%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: All Men Are Created Equal is NOT a Jewish Concept
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:27:38 -0500
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Subject: Jews Want Legal and Financial Superiority Over the Non-Jew; Who is NOT

a "Brother" in Their Eyes! V2.0b S_0128
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Subject: Bigoted Reasoning of Jews on Relations with Non-Jews From Chabad
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Subject: Exclusion Entirely of Non-Jews in the Jewish Scheme of Things! R_0426
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Pre-Earthly Existence? R_0520
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Subject: Jews Are Self Admitted "Separatists" and Aliens In Whatever Nation They
Reside In! V3.0b S_0110
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Scratch

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Do you know what a kinite is? You may want to doa study on them and you will
find out that ther is far more to the story then is 1st seen

Rev 2:9

9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I
know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the
synagogue of Satan.
KJV
There is a lot on them. Do a google search. Here is a start

http://www.geocities.com/sbnotes70/kenites.html


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Doc Tavish

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YES! My subject title is 100% accurate- 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage in
Holocaust Denial in Addition to Their anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism

FOREWORD: I now show in this one post a major flub-a-dub by the Jews in the 1st
Century which I am most positive no Church of Christendom (or anyone else for
that matter) has ever noticed or pointed out. Jews lied to Pilate when they
claimed: "It is not lawful for us to put any man to death." IOW they were
seeking to have the Romans do their dirty work for them! Jews were already
stoning people to death for various sins (John 8:1-6,42-49,58,59 and John
10:32-34) and Jews had already put to death prophets (Matthew 23:29-35) and
after they killed Jesus they murdered 1st Century Christians in the first
Holocaust of two notable Holocausts they have waged against Christians. Jews
stoned the Disciple known as Stephen to death did they not? (Acts 7:52-60) See

how Pharisaic/Talmudic Jews lie?

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For the record the Apostle Peter is also documented as stating:

Acts 5 (King James Version)
27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the
high priest asked them,
28 Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this
name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to
bring this man's blood upon us.
29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God
rather than men.
30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

Notice who the Apostle Peter claimed "who slew Jesus." He was not accusing
Pilate or Herod but rather he was addressing the Pharisee's Sanhedrin!!!

32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom
God hath given to them that obey him.
33 When they heard that, they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay
them.

Notice what the Pharisees' reaction was to the cold hard facts? They wanted to
slay the Apostles!!

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yitz...@lycos.com

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Doc Tavish wrote:
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research, is not
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the factors
> to be considered shall include - (1) whether such use is of a
commercial
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I have become concerned recently that the list of COMMIE GOYIM
has become bloated and unwieldy due to the addition of so
many deserving historical figures and brief descriptions
of their "achievements." Therefore, in the interests of
brevity, here is the short version:

FrançoisBabeuf,LouisBlanqui,
Engels,Lenin,Stalin,Dzerzhinsky,Menzhinsky,
Bukharin,Kamenev,Lunacharsky,
Chicherin,Beria,Yezhov,Bulganin,
Khrushchev,Molotov,Malenkov,Rykov,
Tomsky,Voroshilov,Kalinin,Kirov,Kobulov,
Serov,Merkulov,Abakumov,Ogoltsov,
Ignatiyev,Shelepin,Semichastniy,
Fedorchuk,Chebrikov,Kryuchkov,Brezhnev,
Kosygin,Andropov,Chernenko,Tito,
Rankovic,Chervenkov,Zhikov,Mao,PolPot,
HoChiMinh,Kádár,Gomulka,Gheorghiu-Dej,
Ceausescu,ElenaCeucescu,Postelnicu,Vlad,
Doicaru,DengXiaoping,JiangQing,
WangHongwen,YaoWenyuan,ZhangChunqiao,
Ulbricht,Honecker,Mielke,WilhelmZaisser,
ErnstWollweber,WilliStoph,
Castro,KimIlSung,KimJongIl,
FusakoShigenobu,Baader,Meinhof,
GusHall,WilliamZFoster,EarlBrowder,
JarvisTyner,Hoxha,Husak,OttoKuusinen,
HerttaKuusinen,Snieckus,Mikoyan,Pelshe,
Suslov,AngelaDavis,RenatoCurcio,
AlbertoFranceschini,MarioMoretti,
DoMuoi,LeKhaPhieu,NongDucManh,
CarlosTheJackal,CheGuevara,
GeorgeHabash,WadiHaddad,LeilaKhaled
Hope you enjoyed it,

Yitz

http://www.geocities.com/yitzgood/

yitz...@lycos.com

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Doc Tavish wrote:

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> Jews through the Communism they conceived and first implemented as a
Soviet
> State under Bolshevism waged a second Holocaust against Christians in
the 20th
> Century and this too took place BEFORE Hitler and his Nazis came to
power in
> 1933!

The following list of major Gentile Communist figures
was compiled for satiric purposes, but I tried to make
it as accurate as possible.
So here it is: an answer to all the net-Nazis
who try to convince us that the major Communist figures
were "mainly" or "mostly" or "almost exclusively" Jewish.
What follows contains no polemic, but only facts
(aside from a few snide observations). So
without further ado, the list that pushes back
the last frontier of ignorance, the list of
COMMIE GOYIM!!!!!!!

François Noël Babeuf ("French revolutionary, organizer of
a communist uprising against the Directory . . . he formed
a secret society that plotted to overthrow the government;
it became known as the Conspiracy of the Equals . . . ."
"Although many thinkers in the past expressed ideas that
were similar to later socialism, the first theorist
who may properly be called socialist was François Noël
Babeuf . . . ." Columbia Encyclopedia, articles on Babeuf
and Socialism)

Louis Auguste Blanqui ("Inspired by Babeuf, [Blanqui] coined the
phrase 'dictatorship of the proletariat' and devoted
his life to achieveing it through conspiratorial means. . ."
Pipes, Conspiracy, p. 78.)

Etienne Cabet (French Socialist, author of Voyage en Icarie,
the word "communism" was initially associated with his
ideas)

Engels (Never forget that The Communist Manifesto
was originally written in German
by two guys named Karl and Friedrich.)

BOLSHEVIKS:

Alexander Bogdanov (Important early Bolshevik theorist, Had broken
with Lenin by the time of the revolution.)

Lenin (5th on Rudolph Rummel's list of the "This Century's Bloodiest
Dictators" http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.TAB1.4.GIF )

Stalin (Most blood-stained person who ever lived, #1 on Rummel's list)

Georgi Konstantinovich "Sergo" Ordzhonikidze (Soviet leader
in Armenia and Georgia, Politburo member under Stalin, Beria
and Mikoyan both named sons "Sergo" after him)

Felix Dzerzhinsky (Founder, in 1918, of the Checka secret
police agency, precursor organization of the GPU, OGPU, NKVD,
and KGB)

Nikolai Bukharin (Major Bolshevik theoretician, Politburo Member,
Editor of Pravda)

Lev Borisovich Kamenev (Member of the Original Politburo,
Often mistakenly identified as a Jew although mother was non-Jew,
Originally sided with Stalin and Zinoviev against Trotsky but
forced out by Stalin along with Zinoviev in 1926)

Anatoli Vasilyevich Lunacharsky (Revolutionary, Literary Figure,
Commissar of Education 1917-29)

Nikolai N. Krestinski (Member of First Politburo along with Lenin,
Stalin, Kamenev, and Trotsky)

Georgi Vasilyevich Chicherin (Foreign Comissar/Minister,
succeeding Trotsky, until 1928)

Aleksey Ivanovich Rykov (Commissar for the Interior after 1917,
Politburo member under Lenin and Stalin, Premier from 1924-1931,
Sided with Stalin against Zinoviev, Kamenev, and Trotsky but
fell afoul of Stalin shortly afterwards)

Mikhail Ivanovich Kalinin (Chairman of Central Executive Committee
1919-1946, Politburo Member 1925-46)

Vladimir Antonov-Ovseenko ("Leading Bolshevik. Commanded storming of
Winter Palace in october 1917; held important military, political,
legal and diplomatic posts after Revolution. Disappeared during
purges" All Stalin's Men, p. 173)

Nadezhda Konstantinovna Krupskaya (Mrs. Lenin, Prominent Bolshevik)

Aleksandra Mikhailovna Kollontai (Prominent Bolshevik, Feminist,
People's Commissar for Welfare)

Alexander Shlyapnikov (People's Commissar for Labor until Oct.
1918, later Central Committee Member, Leader--with Kollontai--
of "Worker's Opposition")

Nikolai Vasilyevich Krylenko (Military comissar and
later heavily involved in political trials and purges
until he was purged hinmself in 1938)

Inessa Armand (Prominent Bolshevik, Feminist, Lenin's Mistress)

STALIN'S RULE:

Kliment Voroshilov (Active Bolshevik prior to revolution,
Major Red Army commander during civil war, Close associate
of Stalin, Politburo Member under Stalin, Out of favor under
Khruschev, restored to Central Committee in 1966)

Vyacheslav Rudolfovich Menzhinsky (Succeeded Dzerzhinsky as head
of NKVD in 1926)

Nikolai Yezhov (Head of NKVD 1936-1938, replacing Yagoda,
Wave of terror known as "Yezhovshchina")

Lavrenti Beria (Head of Soviet Georgia and Transcaucasia,
Head of NKVD from 1938 until Stalin's Death, Probably second
most powerful figure in Stalin's government for much
of that time and certainly the most hated and feared,
Deputy Premier under Malenkov)

Nikolai Bulganin (Defense Minister under Stalin, briefly
succeeded Malenkov as Premier)

Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev

Vyacheslav Mikhailovich Molotov (Early editor of Pravda prior
to revolution, Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars
after Rykov, then Foreign Minister, negotiated non-agression pact
between Soviets and Nazi Germany, According to Roy Medvedev,
"In 1932 he played a particularly sinister part in the
Ukraine, where he directed the state grain-procurement
opeations in the southern provinces; after his intervention
the southern Ukraine was gripped by a terrible famine that
carried off millions," All Stalin's Men, p. 87)

Georgi Maksimilianovich Malenkov (Politburo member, Deputy
Premier under Stalin, briefly succeeded Stalin as Premier)

Mikhail Tomsky (Politburo Member, Trade Union Leader,
Another major figure in the power struggles that
eventually led to the consolidation of Stalin's power)

Andrei Aleksandrovich Zhdanov (Central Committee Secretary,
Rival of Malenkov, Anti-Semite)

Stanislav Vikent'evich Kosior (Ukrainian First Secretary,
Reported to have said the following: " . . . the peasant
is adopting a new tactic. He refuses to reap the harvest.
He wants the bread grain to die in order to choke the
Soviet government with the bony hand of famine. We will
show him what famine is." Harvest of Sorrow, p. 221)

Pavel Petrovich Postyshev ("Postyshev was, in fact, Stalin's
effective plenipotenitary in the task of 'Bolshevizing' the
Ukrainian party and extracting further grain from the
starving Ukrainian villages" Harvest of Sorrow, p. 241.)

Grigori Ivanovich Petrovsky ("When a factory official told Petrovsky
that his employees were talking of five million people having already
died and asked what he should tell them, he is quoted as answering,
'Tell them nothing! What they say is true. We know millions are dying.
That is unfortunate, but the glorious future of the Soviet Union will
justify that. Tell them nothing!'" Harvest of Sorrow, p. 325.)

Anastas Ivanovich Mikoyan (Armenian Communist Party head,
Chairman of the USSR Supreme Soviet Presidium, Politburo
member.)

Sergei Mironovich Kirov (Active in Party from Civil War, Politburo
Member under Stalin, Stalin used his assassination--which he probably
ordered himself--as a pretext for getting rid of Zinoviev, Rykov, and
Kamenev.)

Andrei Yanuarievich Vyshinsky (Chief Prosecutor of Soviet Union
1935-1939)


OTHER POLITBURO MEMBERS UNDER STALIN:

Valerian Vladimirovich Kuibyshev
Vlas Yakovlevich Chubar'
Yan Ernestovich Rudzutak
Aleksandr Sergeevich Shcherbakov
Andrei Andreevich Andreev
Nikolai Aleksandrovich Uglanov
Robert Ivanovich Eikhe
Sergei I. Syrtsov

NKVD OFFICIALS

Roman Aleksndrovich Pillyar (Deputy Head of Counterespionage 1921-1926)

Eduard Petrovich Berzin (Head of Dalstroy 1932-1937)

Karp Aleksandrovich Pavlov (Head of Dalstroy and Kolyma camp 1937-40)

Ivan Fedorovich Nikishev (Nov 1938-Dec 1939 Head of Khabarovsk NKVD,
Candidate
Member of Central Committee 1939-52, Head of Dalstroy 1940-1946)

DEFENDANTS AT BUKHARIN TRIAL 1937:

Pavel Petrovich Bulanov (Yagoda's Secretary)

Georgi E. Prokoviev (Deputy Head OGPU 1932, Deputy People's
Commissar NKVD 1935-1936, Deputy People's Commissar for
Communications until 1937)

Georgi Aleksandrovich Molchanov (Head of Secret Political Dept GUGB,
In charge of Zinoviev case)

Aleksandr M Shanin (Head Transport Department GUGB, Commissar
GB Grade 2 November 1935)

Stanislaw Frantsevich Redens (Head of NKVD Administration in Moscow
under Yagoda, Stalin's wife's sister's husband)

YEZHOV PERIOD:

Mikhail Petrovich Frinovsky (October 1936-Fall 1938 Deputy People's
Commissar NKVD, one of Yezhov's two top henchmen along with Zakovsky)

Leonid Mikhailovich Zakovsky ("Zakovski is reported as saying that he
could
soon make Karl Marx confess to being an agent of Bismark. Dzerzhinski,
when
he had called him at the Smolny to be one of the founding members of
the
Checka, had said that the orginazation needed 'manly, fearless, bold'
officers
of his type. Over the past few years these qualities had all been
manifested
in the torturing and framing of his old comrades, in a manner which
illuminates
much sentimental nonsense about the brotherhood of the revolutionaries,
the pure-heartedness of the Old Bolsheviks." Conquest, Inside Stalin's
Secret Police, p. 57)

Nikolai Galaktionovich Nikolaev-Zhurid (Old Checkist, Old Bolshevik,
Leningrad OGPU,
Head of Special Department Fall 1938)

Nikolai Nikolayevich Federov (Head of Odessa NKVD, Member Supreme
Soviet)

Grigory Fedorovich Gorbach (Head of Novosibirsk NKVD 1937, Member
Supreme Soviet)


NKVD OFFICIALS--BERIA PROTEGES (KNOWN AS "BERIA'S GANG"):

Bogdan Kobulov (Deputy head of NKVD under Beria, with Serov oversaw
deportation of Crimean Tartars and other national groups,
Involved in day-to-day operation of the Gulag)

Ivan Aleksandrovich Serov (Deputy Head of NKVD along with Kobulov,
Head of KGB 1954-1958 "Ivan Serov was awarded the Order of Suvorov,
First Class, reserved for major victories in the field, on March 9
1944--that is, immediately after the largest of his deportation
operations, that of the Chechen-Ingush. He was later made a
Hero of the Soviet Union and received a number of other orders."
Conquest, The Nation Killers, p. 82)

Vsevolod Nikolayevich Merkulov (Head of NKGB 1941-1946, briefly head
of MGB in 1946)

Sergei Goglidze (Head of Leningrad NKVD, Later Deputy Minister
of State Security and Chief of Third Directorate of MGB)

Vladimir Dekanozov (Head of GUGB Foreign Department,
1953 Minister MVD Georgia)

Lavrentii Tsanava (1921-33 Checka-OGPU in Caucasus,
1938-1952 Head of Belorussia NKVD)

Grigorii Karanadze ( Head of Crimea NKVD 1938-1942,
1952 People's Commissar NKVD/MVD Georgia)

Aleksei Sadzhaia (Head of Uzbekistan NKVD)

Amaiak Kobulov (Brother of Bogdan, Head of Ukraine NKVD 1939,
NKVD Uzbekistan 1943)

Mikhail Gvishiani (Head of Far East NKVD, His son Dzhermen--
named after Dzerzhinsky and Menzhinsky--was married to Kosygin's
daughter)

Avksentii Rapava (1941-1948 Head of Georgia NKVD then NKGB, MGB)

M. D. Bagirov (Head of the Communist Party in Azerbaijan)

MVD-MGB-KGB OFFICIALS:

Sergei Kruglov (Briefly head of NKVD, MVD first deputy, Major
subordinate of Beria, but joined Khrushchev against Beria)

Viktor Semyonovich Abakumov (Head of MGB 1946-1951, Technically
another of Beria's subordinates, but independent of Beria and a rival
to Merkulov)

Sergey Ogoltsov (Head of MGB July 14 1951 - August 9 1951)

Semyon Denisovich Ignatiyev (Head of MGB 1951-1953, Since
he had been part of the Zhdanov faction, his appointment
was a blow to Beria)

Aleksandr Nikolayevich Shelepin (Head of KGB 1958-1961,
Supported Khrushchev's rise to power and was also involved
in his removal)

Vladimir Yefimovich Semichastniy (Head of KGB 1961-1967,
Also heavily involved in Khrushchev's removal)

[See "LATER USSR FIGURES" for Andropov]

Vitaliy Vasilyevich Fedorchuk (Head of KGB May 26 1982 - December 17
1982)

Viktor Mikhaylovich Chebrikov (Head of KGB 1982-1988)

Vladimir Aleksandrovich Kryuchkov (Head of KGB 1988-1991)


LATER USSR FIGURES:

Mikhail Andreyevich Suslov (Ideological watchdog maintaining purity of
communist doctrine, Central Committee member from 1941, Supported both
Khruschev's rise to power and his downfall)

Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev

Alexei Nikolayevich Kosygin (Succeeded Khrushchev as Premier in 1964,
initially shared power with Brezhnev although power later declined)

Yuri Vladimirovich Andropov (Head of KGB 1967-1982, General Secretary
of Communist Party 1982-1984)
(See: http://edwardjayepstein.com/archived/andropov.htm)

Konstantin Chernenko (Party General Secretary and Chairman of
Presiduim after Andropov's death)

Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev (Chernenko's successor)

MISCELLANEOUS:

Josip Broz Tito (9th on Rummel's list of "This Century's
Century's Bloodiest Dictators")

Aleksandar Rankovic (Tito's second in command 1948-1966)

Vulko Chervenkov (Dictator of Bulgaria 1950-1956)

Todor Zhikov (Dictator of Bulgaria 1956-1989)

Mao Tse-Tung (2nd on Rummel's list)

Zhou Enlai (Chinese Premier 1949-1976)

Zhu De (Military leader and later Deputy Chairman of Communist China)

Lin Biao (Second only to Mao in China in the late 60's, Compiler of
the Little Red Book)

Liu Shaoqi (Mao's leading deputy in 50's and early 60's)

Kang Sheng (Chinese Secret Police Chief)

Jiang Qing (Mrs. Mao, the rest of the "Gang of Four" follow)

Wang Hongwen

Yao Wenyuan

Zhang Chunqiao

Deng Xiaoping ( http://www.laogai.org/comment/dissent.htm )

Jiang Zemin (Chinese Communist Party General Secretary 1989-2002,
President 1993-2003, Emerged as major leader and Deng's successor
in wake of suppression of pro-democracy movement.)

Hu Jintao (Currrent Chinese Leader)

Pol Pot (7th on Rummel's list)

Nuon Chea (Deputy General Secretary of Cambodia's
Communist Party, Number Two man in Pol Pot's regime, heavily
implicated in torture, mass-murder, and repression)

Ieng Sary (Pol Pot's brother-in-law, Minister of Foreign Affairs)

Khieu Samphan (Cambodian Head of State under Pol Pot)

János Kádár (Head of Communist Hungary 1956-1988)

Boleslaw Bierut (Leader of Communist Poland:
President of Communist Poland 1947-1952,
First Secretary of Central Committee 1948-1956)

Józef Cyrankiewicz (Polish Politburo member 1948-1971,
Prime Minister 1947-1952, Deputy Premier 1952-1954,
Prime Minister 1954-1970)

Marian Spychalski (Polish General, PPR-PUWP
Politburo member 1945-1949, 1959-1970)

Zenon Nowak (Polish Central Committee, Politburo
member, Secretary of Central Committee 1950-1954,
Deputy Premier until 1968)

Stanislaw Radkiewicz (Polish Minister of Public Security
1945-1954)

Wladyslaw Gomulka (Head of Communist Poland 1956-1970)

Edward Gierek (Head of Communist Poland 1970-1980)

Gheorgehe Gheorghiu-Dej (According to Dennis Deletant,
instituted "police terror" in Communist Romania)

Nicolae Ceausescu (Dej's successor, Head of Communist Romania
1965-1989--why are so many of these guys named "Nikolai"?)

Elena Ceaucescu (Ceaucescu's wife, major figure in Ceaucescu's
government, promoted cult of personality surrounding Ceaucescu)

Tudor Postelnicu (Promoted to Interior Minister of Romania in 1987,
head of dreaded Securitate security service up to that point)

Iulian Vlad (Following Postelnicu's promotion, succeeded him
as Head of Securitate)

George Nicolae Doicaru (Head of Securitate at time of 1978 defection
of Ion Pacepa)

Walter Ulbricht (Head of East Germany 1950-1971, Built Berlin Wall,
sent troops to help Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia)

Erich Honecker (Succeeded Ulbricht)

Wilhelm Zaisser (Head of Stasi 1950-1953)

Ernst Wollweber (Head of Stasi 1953-1957)

Erich Mielke (Head of Stasi 1957-1989)

Willi Stoph (East German Politburo Member, Minister of Internal
Affairs and Minister for National Defense during 1950's, became
Chairman of Council of Ministers in 1964)

Mengistu Haile Mariam (Communist dictator of Ethiopia 1977-1991,
When the Soviet regime collapsed, so did his.)

Fidel Castro

Raul Castro (Fidel's younger brother and designated heir, Defense
Minister)

Felipe Perez Roque (Cuban Foreign Affairs Minister)

Carlos Lage (Cuban Vice President)

Kim Il Sung (Head of North Korea 1948-94)

Kim Jong Il (Son of the above)

Kim Yong Nam (Presidium President of the Democratic People's
Republic of Korea Supreme People's Assembly, i.e. Kim Jong
Il's second in command--not to be confused with Kim Jong Nam,
KJI's now out-of-favor oldest son)

Jang Song Thaek (KJI's brother in law--Deputy Head
of the Korean Central Committee)

Fusako Shigenobu (Head of Japanese Red Army)

Andreas Baader, Ulrike Meinhof (Baader-Meinhof Gang)

William Z. Foster (U.S. Communist party candidate for President 1924,
1928, 1932)

Earl Russell Browder (U.S. Communist party candidate for President
1936, 1940)

Gus Hall (U.S. Communist Party candidate for President 1972, 1976,
1980, 1984)

Jarvis Tyner (Hall's running mate in 1972 and 1976)

Angela Davis (Civil rights activist and philosopher, Gus Hall's
vice-presidential candidate in 1980 and 1984.)

Enver Hoxha (Leader of Communist Albania 1946-1985)

Ramiz Alia (Hoxha's successor)

Klement Gottwald (President of Communist Czechoslovakia 1948-1953)

Gustave Husak (Leader of Czechoslovakia after suppression of
"Prague Spring.")

Otto Vilgelmovich Kuusinen (Finnish communist, exiled
to the USSR after Finnish independence was consolidated
following WW I and the civil war that ensued, headed failed
Soviet-supported bogus Terijojki government after Soviet
attack on Finland in 1939, eventually rose to be the only
foreign-born member of the Soviet Politburo.)

Hertta Kuusinen (Finnish communist leader, Otto's
daughter, In a notorious 1948 speech shortly after
the communist take-over in Czechoslovakia she
stated "Czechoslovakia's way will be our way.")

Antanas Snieckus (Grand old man of Lithuanian communism,
Lived in exile in the USSR, but tried repeatedly to subvert
the Lithuanian state. Lithuanian Communist Party head after
country incorporated into USSR. Defied Moscow
and built his own brand of Lithuanian communism.)

Arvid Yanovich Pelshe (Latvian Communist Party head, head
of the Soviet Communist Party Control Committee and responsible
for internal migration policies, including deportations,
ethnic dilutions, and policies leading to de facto
Russification of non-Russian republics)

Renato Curcio (Red Brigades)

Alberto Franceschini (Red Brigades)

Mario Moretti (Red Brigades, negotiated mutual aid pact with PLO)

Ho Chi Minh

Do Muoi (Became General Secretary of Vietnamese Communist Party in
1991)

Le Kha Phieu (Became General Secretary of Vietnamese
Communist Party in 1997)

Nong Duc Manh (Current General Secretary of Vietnamese Commuunist
Party)

Ilich Ramirez Sanchez, "Carlos the Jackal"

Ernesto Che Guevara

George Habash, PFLP

Wadi Haddad, PFLP

Leila Khaled, PFLP


BIBLIOGRAPHY

Albats, Yevgenia. The State Within a State: The KGB and
Its Hold on Russia--Past, Present, and Future. New York:
Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 1994

Conquest, Robert. Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization
and the Terror-Famine. Oxford, 1986.

-----. Inside Stalin's Secret Police: NKVD Politics 1936-1939.
Stanford University, Hoover Institution Press, 1985.

-----. Kolyma: The Arctic Death Camps. Viking Press, 1978.

-----. The Nation Killers: The Soviet Deportation of Nationalities.
MacMillan, 1960.

Courtois, Stephane, et. al. The Black Book of Communism.
Harvard, 1999.

Deletant, Dennis. Ceausescu and the Securitate: Coercion
and Dissent in Romania, 1965-1989.
Armonk, N.Y.: M. E. Sharpe, 1995

Jansen, Marc and Nikita Petrov. Stalin's Loyal Executioner:
People's Commissar Nikolai Ezhov 1895-1940.
Stanford University, Hoover Institution Press, 2002.

Knight, Amy. Beria: Stalin's first Lieutenant. Princeton, 1993.

Medvedev, Roy. All Stalin's Men: Six Who Carried Out the Bloody
Policies. Trans. Harold Shukman. Anchor Press/Doubleday, 1984.

Pipes, Daniel. Conspiracy: How the Paranoid Style Flourishes and Where
it Comes From. The Free Press, 1997

Pipes, Richard. A Concise History of the Russian Revolution.
Vintage Books, 1996.

Rummel, R. J. Death by Government. Transaction, 1994.

Service, Robert. Lenin: A Biography. Harvard, 2000.

Toronska, Teresa. "Them": Stalin's Polish Puppets.
New York: Harper and Row, 1987.

WEB SOURCES RELEVANT TO MORE THAN ONE ENTRY:

Source for some MGB, KGB entries: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB

Columbia Encyclopedia: http://www.encyclopedia.com/

Rummel's List: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.TAB1.4.GIF

Who was Who in Poland: http://polish-jewish-heritage.org/Eng/prl.htm

Good List of Soviet Officials
with Nationalities Noted: http://holocaust.skeptik.net/misc/party.htm

APPENDIX 1

According to Benjamin Pinkus (The Jews of the Soviet Union,
Cambridge University Press, 1988, p. 83.):

"If we take all three sectors of the administration,
it emerges that of the 417 people who constituted the
ruling elite of the Soviet Union in the mid 1920s (the
members of the Central Executive Committee, the Party
Central Committee, the Presidium of the Executive of the
Soviets of the USSR and the Russian Republic, the Ministers,
and the Chairman of the Executive Committee),
twenty-seven (that is 6%) were Jews."

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(Thanks to Eugene Holman for entries on Mikoyan, Suslov,
the Kuusinens, Pelshe, Snieckus, and Angela Davis. Thanks to
Sergei Romanov for information on nationality of NKVD
officials.)

Doc Tavish

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Dear Archibishop Montalvo:

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John 19:6-16 (English-RSV)

<<Special Note for February 5, 2005: All the Disciples/Apostles I quote (Peter,
Paul, and Stephen) were Jews who gave up their adherence to Judaism to become
Christian Jews. It was this fact that Jews were abandoning Judaism to become
Christians that incited the murderous persucution the Pharisees enaged in
against them.>>

I.E.

Jews through the Communism they conceived and first implemented as a Soviet


State under Bolshevism waged a second Holocaust against Christians in the 20th
Century and this too took place BEFORE Hitler and his Nazis came to power in
1933!

Here is the Second Holocaust waged by Jews against Christians in the 20th
Century:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=u626vv814v0dt9raqv17ede0h4536l51ag%404ax.com&rnum=10&filter=0
Subject: V3.0e Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism R_1231
Message-ID: <u626vv814v0dt9raq...@4ax.com>
Date: 31 Dec 2003 17:34:02 GMT

The above archive documents the inception of communism as an ideology as well as
the movers and shakers behind the establishment of the first Soviet State along
with how Christians fared under such regimes! FULLY DOCUMENTED AND IRREFUTABLE!!

New Addition for February 5, 2005- Here is another Holocaust by Jews against
non-Jews in Ukraine (Jewish led Soviets had a Holocaust against 7,000,000
Ukrainians):

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/82690dc707209771?safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=j4jvv0pf79pseq5do...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/82690dc707209771?dmode=source
Subject: Ghostbusting in Ukraine -- Inordinate Role Jews Had in Ukrainian
Ethnocide T_0201
Date: 1 Feb 2005 18:52:33 GMT
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/e2f730128d43d361?dmode=source
Subject: HOLODOMOR The Forgiven Holocaust of 1932-33...
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:36:46 -0600
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SIMON WIESENTHAL CENTER AND HOLOCAUSTS

The Simon Wiesenthal Center will not acknowledge that Jews waged not ONE but TWO
Holocausts against Christians/Anti-Communists YET they dwell on passing blame on
to Christendom for what the Nazis did to Jews during WW TWO which came
historically AFTER the two Holocaust Jews had waged against humanity. Instead of
it being Christendom's fault I would say what happened to Jews under Nazism was

the Jews fault! If the Jews were NOT spreading communist revolution and genocide


against Christians throughout Russia and it spilling over into Europe then I say
it is very possible that Adolf Hitler and his Nazis have never had a chance to

come to power in the first place! Jews reaped what they had already sown in a
historical sense.

[...]

[...]

I.E.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/c25a5121c68905c8
Subject: A Munich Soviet Established by Jews Before Nazism's Rise...
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Date: 3 Feb 2005 16:22:52 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=u626vv814v0dt9raqv17ede0h4536l51ag%404ax.com&rnum=10&filter=0
Subject: V3.0e Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism R_1231
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Date: 31 Dec 2003 17:34:02 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=neapd0h72hb82fn4fgq3fq8ba4ij5n8ctp%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Socialism Imported Into America, Canada, Rumania, Hungary, Poland,
Germany, Ukraine, Palestine (Israel) Etc. by Jews (In Their Own Words People!)
V2.0 S_0625 Date: 25 Jun 2004 23:08:56 GMT
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The ironic thing about all of the above is that the Churches of Christendom now
ignore the history of what Jews have done to Christians and they are now
paralyzed with guilt feelings by such tactics as the Wiesenthal Center and other
organizations which evoke feelings of guilt in uninformed masses to cover for
their own genocide! Two wrongs do not make a right BUT for Jews to deny

Update ADDENDUM:

--

Why would Palestine need to be liberated by a Jewish army and from whom was

I.E.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=dgp5g0po2nirmqkejcu2tf53cun8pv64gc%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Israel Kills Palestinian Boys, Steals Organs For Transplants V2.5
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Date: 24 Jul 2004 22:42:55 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3nfppv0if6pf32de3buu3lj1grib1j0ehg%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: White Slavery of Christian Girls - In Israel!! and Jews Dominate
Hollywood and Porn R_1027
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Date: 27 Oct 2003 06:47:44 GMT

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Tavish

--Devilish Satanic Children of the Devil and Anti-Christs Identified--
CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL (BELIAL) IDENTIFIED:
John 8:
42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came
from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.
43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I
say.
44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's
desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for
there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is
a liar and the father of lies.
45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!
46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't
you believe me?
47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that
you do not belong to God."
48 The Jews answered him, "Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan
and demon-possessed?"
49 "I am not possessed by a demon," said Jesus, "but I honor my Father and you
dishonor me..
ANTI-CHRISTS IDENTIFIED:
1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard
that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists."
1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is
the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those who are trying to
mislead you!"
1 John 4: 2,3 "You gain knowledge of the inspired expression from God by this:
Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in the
flesh originates with God, but every inspired expression that does not confess
Jesus does not originate with God, Furthermore this is the antichrist's inspired
expression which you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world."
2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not
confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never
receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a
greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Having any sympathy for the anti-Christ offspring of Belial (aka Lucifer) is
having SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL (who is their proud father who inspires them)-
which is at its core demonic and un-Christian!
Judges 20:13 "Now therefore deliver us the men, the children of Belial, which
are in Gibeah, that we may put them to death, and put away evil from Israel."
2 Corinthians 6:15 "What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does
a believer have in common with an unbeliever?"
http://www.belial.org/enbib/whois.htm (Archived locally as: belial_whois)
"...the ruler of all these newly-made demons was the Prince of Evil, known as
(among other things) Satan, Lucifer, Leviathan and Belial. The fallen angels,
who earlier had worked hard for God, became pure, independent and the foremost
enemies of the Christians."


Beaver Cleaver

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~~~~~~~~~~

Examples of returns:

Dear Archibishop Montalvo:

<END>

John 19:6-16 (English-RSV)

Christians that incited the murderous persecution the Pharisees engaged in
against them.>>

I.E.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/c67d884d85bad07c


Subject: UPDATED The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives &
Research) V2.5 R_0925
Message-ID: <m1p5nv4es86j78p5d...@4ax.com>
Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:49 GMT

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/72f2f6f3129d731b


Subject: Babylon the Great - Religious Persecution, Torture, Harassment R_0524
Message-ID: <k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:17 GMT

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/26ccb282e78d3d26


Subject: The Apostle Paul on Judaized Jews R_0524
Message-ID: <i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:25 GMT

Jews through the Communism they conceived and first implemented as a Soviet
State under Bolshevism waged a second Holocaust against Christians in the 20th
Century and this too took place BEFORE Hitler and his Nazis came to power in
1933!

Here is the Second Holocaust waged by Jews against Christians in the 20th
Century:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/e364b24e60b8c04d
Subject: V3.0f Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism V2-0
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:34:42 -0500
Message-ID: <heacl09r40oic5bnu...@4ax.com>

The above archive documents the inception of communism as an ideology as well as
the movers and shakers behind the establishment of the first Soviet State along
with how Christians fared under such regimes! FULLY DOCUMENTED AND IRREFUTABLE!!

New Addition for February 5, 2005- Here is another Holocaust by Jews against
non-Jews in Ukraine (Jewish led Soviets had a Holocaust against 7,000,000
Ukrainians):

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/82690dc707209771


Subject: Ghostbusting in Ukraine -- Inordinate Role Jews Had in Ukrainian
Ethnocide T_0201
Date: 1 Feb 2005 18:52:33 GMT
Message-ID: <j4jvv0pf79pseq5do...@4ax.com>

--------------------------------------------------------
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/e2f730128d43d361


Subject: HOLODOMOR The Forgiven Holocaust of 1932-33...
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:36:46 -0600
Message-ID: <fp3201li1kc8ij58a...@4ax.com>

--------------------------------------------------------
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/a7c4e4c01ddfdb7b
Subject: "Holocaust" History -- Have you ever wondered why Ukrainians
volunteered for guard duty? T_0202
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:53:02 -0600
Message-ID: <nv3201hfkij06mroe...@4ax.com>
--------------------------------------------------------
Who was spreading "Sovietism" to Europe:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ff8d0e8a55137708
Subject: A Munich Soviet Established by Jews Before Nazism's Rise V3-0 T_0625
Message-ID: <6enub1tt0b5865men...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Jun 2005 02:10:28 GMT
--------------------------------------------------------
Who were generally regarded as "Soviets":
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/38001f94283e1e63
Subject: Soviets (Communists) Were Jews as Proven by BOOLEAN Operands (Classic
Repost from 3-31-2000) Abridged Version R_0516
Message-ID: <ek19cv4ei9cf2nrvu...@4ax.com>
Date: 16 May 2003 06:36:09 GMT
EXCERPT:
Lucy S. Dawidowicz
THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS 1933-1945
by Bantam Books Incorporated (#13084-6, 1979 ed).
The book's "Acknowledgments" starts with: "This book had its­ genesis in a
course I developed at the suggestion of Rabbi David Mirsky, Dean of­ Stern
College for Women, Yeshiva University [New York, New York 10033-3201 -- I added
the address- it was not in the original text. Tavish]. ...I am indebted to the
Yivo Institute for Jewish Research, the Blaustein Library of the American Jewish
Committee..."
On page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious anti-Semitic prejudices of the
Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians and activating their accumulated hatred
for the Soviets, the Germans harnessed the violent energies of these willing
collaborates to round up and kill Jews."
-> I now ask- How could the people named above have been anti-Semitic towards
the Soviets if they weren't Jews? The Ukrainians as well as others knew who
wrought the communist menace on their Motherland and it was Jews!
-----------------------------------------------------------------
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/msg/87d1cf751ad2de2a
Subject: Goldhagen Vs Dawidowicz -- Anti-Semitism of Ukrainians Etc. Toward
Soviets Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:35:02 -0500
Message-ID: <i62pb1ljc0j2r73ir...@4ax.com>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[...]

[...]

I.E.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/e364b24e60b8c04d
Subject: V3.0f Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism V2-0
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:34:42 -0500
Message-ID: <heacl09r40oic5bnu...@4ax.com>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/dd4c57e4bb0b2f5b?fwc=2


Subject: Socialism Imported Into America, Canada, Rumania, Hungary, Poland,
Germany, Ukraine, Palestine (Israel) Etc. by Jews (In Their Own Words People!)
V2.0 S_0625 Date: 25 Jun 2004 23:08:56 GMT
Message-ID: <neapd0h72hb82fn4f...@4ax.com>

The ironic thing about all of the above is that the Churches of Christendom now
ignore the history of what Jews have done to Christians and they are now
paralyzed with guilt feelings by such tactics as the Wiesenthal Center and other
organizations which evoke feelings of guilt in uninformed masses to cover for
their own genocide! Two wrongs do not make a right BUT for Jews to deny
Holocausts they have waged against Christians and uninformed adherents of
Christendom being made to feel guilty is the pinnacle of bedevilment by the
original Children of the Father of Lies-- The Devil.

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.ukrainian/msg/12da96e4d37455e6

Update ADDENDUM:

--

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/3d9a75bb20795c52


Subject: Palestine was Changed to a Socialist Jewish State in 1948 by Ben-Gurion

with Communist Soviet Union's Support V4-0 T_0728
Message-ID: <qfqie1pqg5595f1bb...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Jul 2005 23:47:06 GMT in his remarks above.>>

I.E.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/6397aacef5d06498


Subject: Israel Kills Palestinian Boys, Steals Organs For Transplants V2.5
S_0723 Message-ID: <dgp5g0po2nirmqkej...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 Jul 2004 22:42:55 GMT

-------
As a parallel- Jews are predominant in the abortion trade which is very
profitable for the anti-Christs seeing how they are paid to kill a baby
and then as a bonus get to sell the carcass as tissue! Here is a new
link documenting Jews and their predominance in the abortion trade:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/msg/3fa0257eac4bad52
Subject: The Holocaust Against Millions of Innocents by Christ Denier
Anti-Christs Continues V1-0
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:27:17 -0500
Message-ID: <0g3vl0pq7pl0kkdff...@4ax.com>

Also in light of the above here is how the Modern State of Israel treats all
non-Jews:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/dbcad3ea8da5bbea?fwc=2


Subject: Apartheid Laws in Israel (Different Author Series) V3.0
Message-ID: <t48jg054lokshm6b2...@4ax.com>
Date: 30 Jul 2004 01:22:37 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/7759bdc0ca737d99?fwc=2


Subject: Comparing Israel's "Anti-Christ Activism" to Other Middle East Nations
is NOT a Valid Comparison V2.5 R_0821
Message-ID: <upe9kvor1pdvm2ifa...@4ax.com>
Date: 21 Aug 2003 12:22:34 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/1772bc0f0e36a35a

Tavish

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.palestine/msg/5f236d361634c200


Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
(Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
Message-ID: <1ioifv01joma9fjqp...@4ax.com>

Compare the above to this post:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/86a22807544d3abf

_______________________________________________________________________________

The Chief Instigator

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R. Scott Bradbury <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:

>YES! My subject title is 100% accurate- 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage
>in Holocaust Denial in Addition to Their anti-Christic Christ Denial
>anti-Christism

[same ol' Bradshite flushed down the Ellis]

What's your beef? You're no Christian. You're just a brain-damaged kook who
hates Jews for no rational reason, Fruitcake of Bellville.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005

Doc Tavish

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On 30 Jul 2005 17:42:05 -0500, <szk64ur...@eris.io.com> The Chief
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>(Newsgroups de-spammed)

Restored- I want the lurkers to see my opposition for the brainless big mouths
they truly are.

>
>R. Scott Bradbury <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:
>
>>YES! My subject title is 100% accurate- 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage
>>in Holocaust Denial in Addition to Their anti-Christic Christ Denial
>>anti-Christism
>
>[same ol' Bradshite flushed down the Ellis]

Can't refute the anti-Christism can you?

What I posted:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/2737c3f9e9a137a2?fwc=2
Subject: 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage in Holocaust Denial in Addition to
Their anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism V5.1 T_0729
Message-ID: <brcke1lh0s6qacohs...@4ax.com>
Date: 29 Jul 2005 14:04:24 GMT
If Jews are allowed to call a historic event a "Holocaust" based on Jews being
tortured, imprisoned, and executed by Nazis then why can't Christians claim Jews
had "Holocausts" against non-Jews/Christians seeing how the 1st Century
Pharisees and the 20th Century Jewish led Bolshevists tortured, imprisoned, and
executed Christians/non-Jews. Jews also deny these other "Holocausts" so going
by their standards they are "Holocaust Deniers" and should be prosecuted for
"Holocaust Denial" and "Minimalizing the Holocaust[s])" as well!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/ed596bea483952b6?fwc=2
Subject: Post-Soviet Religion (What Communists did to Christians) V3-0 T_0625
Message-ID: <4plub1hmr6bnr2mpl...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Jun 2005 02:00:38 GMT

>What's your beef? You're no Christian.

Who are you to judge my faith seeing how you are on record as stating:

~Why Patrick Lee Humphrey Always Sides With Anti-Christs - He's an Anti-Christ~
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/f9ac4c8dfebe7f32
(Archived locally as: PLHanti-Christ_1)
Message-ID: <szkbsfn...@eris.io.com>
shi...@yahoo.com (Ruth Muraya) writes:
>please avoid using foul language when addressing issues relating to
>Jesus Christ else you will surely DIE!!!!.

We all have to face that eventually...why don't you let your alleged savior
speak for himself?
--PLH, I found Jesus! He was buried under the dustbunnies back of the couch
==============================================================================
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/ok.general/msg/9fd9722c6ea8e772
(Archived locally as: PLHanti-Christ_2)
From: pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey)
Message-ID: <szkr9mm...@eris.io.com>
Valerie Gould <sgo...@ionet.net> writes:
>I will continue to worship my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ anyway I please.

You can worship Tinky Winky, for all I care -- but this is Usenet, and idiots
like you don't have a _right_ to clog this newsgroup with your crap, no matter
what you think your alleged deity tells you... --PLH
==============================================================================
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/bc6c43ccb4622044
(Archived locally as: PLHanti-Christ_3)
Message-ID: <szkemlk...@dillinger.io.com>
"millerbeers" <mille...@email.msn.com> writes:
>What do you mean by "death-cult"?

Well, what would you call a religion that makes such a big deal of its
supposed founder being nailed up and left to die, and crafts such a convoluted
morality that produces such marvels as suffering being deemed virtuous?
--PLH, think I'll stick to more common-sense notions than those
==============================================================================
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/utexas.general/msg/b3b6da4999f71738
(Archived locally as: PLHanti-Christ_4)
Message-ID: <szken0b...@bermuda.io.com>
"Actually, the way I look at it, if this Jesus fellow died for
our sins, why make his death meaningless by not committing a few of 'em? ;-)
--PLH, just helping some of the more devout churchfolks out"
==============================================================================
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.abortion.inequity/msg/bc37b24a422b47d5
(Archived locally as: PatrickRICE05 and PatrickRICE06)
Message-ID: <828s71$an2$1...@joe.rice.edu>
TerryG (terryg1...@my-deja.com) writes:
>There is nothing moderate about abortion so stop deluding yourself.

You have no authority to decide for anyone else what's moderate, so maybe you
should take your own advice for once, eh?
--PLH, having fun watching the latest cafeteria Christian with his
pathologically bloated ego waddle through here
==============================================================================
Patrick's wife is a waddler so he doesn't have much room to talk!
< "Thar she blows-- Dale the Whale" http://www.io.com/~patrick/vegas.html >

>You're just a brain-damaged kook who hates Jews for no rational reason, Fruitcake of Bellville.

You are a demented peeping tom who can only hurl insults and has no facts!

----Patrick Lee Humphrey = Documented Self Confessed Peeping Tom----
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.feminism/msg/729ac178ff1f8660
(Archived locally as: PatrickThePeeper)
Subject: Re: PATRICK "THE STALKER?"
Date: 1996/09/03
Message-ID: <50ht24$l...@anarchy.io.com>
---Sad, but true, but at least it'll be a bit easier than I thought to
encounter "Shawn" when I'm in Austin next month--if I'm out at night, just look
for anyone peeking into windows... Patrick L. Humphrey
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is what some experts say about Patrick's behavior:
http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/db/issues/99/10.28/news.peeping.html
(Archived locally as: PLH_Voyeur)
Voyeurism at root of Peeping Tom incidents
CRIME: Cases uncommon on campus; recent arrest one of seven since 1997
By Linh Tat Daily Bruin Contributor Although everyone has heard the term
"Peeping Tom" before, most people may still be in the dark when it comes to
understanding the nature of this criminal offense. Many people may label a
person who secretly observes another undressing or in the nude as a Peeping Tom,
but they do not always consider that those who repeatedly commit this offense
may suffer from a psychological disorder.... <END> Try: http://tinyurl.com/8jj6w
http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/briefs/2000/0responses/2000-0919.resp.html
(Archived locally as: 2000-0919)
http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/briefs/2000/0responses/2000-0919.resp.pdf
(Archived locally as: 2000-0919.resp.pdf)
...In November 1997, after reviewing police reports that implicated petitioner
as a suspect in a "Peeping Tom" incident that occurred in the vicinity of the
rape, NCIS reopened its investigation. Pet. App. 23a. Thereafter, the NCIS
office in Hawaii asked NCIS Special Agent John McNutt, assigned to the NCIS
office in Memphis, Tennessee, to interrogate petitioner... During that
review, McNutt learned that petitioner was being treated for diabetes and a
mental disorder.... <END>
Tavish


>--
> Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
> chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
> LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
> NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005

The Chief Instigator

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R. Scott Bradbury <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:

>On 30 Jul 2005 17:42:05 -0500, <szk64ur...@eris.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:

>>(Newsgroups de-spammed)

>Restored- I want the lurkers to see my opposition for the brainless big mouths
>they truly are.

So much for that fantasy, wot?

>>R. Scott Bradbury <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:

>>>YES! My subject title is 100% accurate- 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage
>>>in Holocaust Denial in Addition to Their anti-Christic Christ Denial
>>>anti-Christism

>>[same ol' Bradshite flushed down the Ellis]

>Can't refute the anti-Christism can you?

>What I posted:

just got rusticated again. You're not too swift, are you? You're 55 years
old and you still haven't figured out that it's your job to prove your
psychotic ravings, Bubba. Maybe if you'd decided to stay in school past sixth
grade, you might actually be someone worth respecting...

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INTRO: YES! My subject title is 100% accurate- 3 Major Jewish Organizations


Engage in Holocaust Denial in Addition to Their anti-Christic Christ Denial

anti-Christism.


If Jews are allowed to call a historic event a "Holocaust" based on Jews being
tortured, imprisoned, and executed by Nazis then why can't Christians claim Jews
had "Holocausts" against non-Jews/Christians seeing how the 1st Century
Pharisees and the 20th Century Jewish led Bolshevists tortured, imprisoned, and
executed Christians/non-Jews. Jews also deny these other "Holocausts" so going
by their standards they are "Holocaust Deniers" and should be prosecuted for
"Holocaust Denial" and "Minimalizing the Holocaust[s])" as well!

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/ed596bea483952b6?fwc=1


Subject: Post-Soviet Religion (What Communists did to Christians) V3-0 T_0625
Message-ID: <4plub1hmr6bnr2mpl...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Jun 2005 02:00:38 GMT

FOREWORD: I now show in this one post a major flub-a-dub by the Jews in the 1st

~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=10&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=World%27s+Largest+Jewish+Organization&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images
(Use this URL if the above URL gets destroyed: http://tinyurl.com/chq29)

Examples of returns:

Dear Archibishop Montalvo:

<END>

John 19:6-16 (English-RSV)

Christian Jews. It was the fact that Jews were abandoning Judaism to become

I.E.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/c67d884d85bad07c


Subject: UPDATED The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives &
Research) V2.5 R_0925
Message-ID: <m1p5nv4es86j78p5d...@4ax.com>
Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:49 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/72f2f6f3129d731b


Subject: Babylon the Great - Religious Persecution, Torture, Harassment R_0524
Message-ID: <k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:17 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/26ccb282e78d3d26


Subject: The Apostle Paul on Judaized Jews R_0524
Message-ID: <i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:25 GMT

Jews through the Communism they conceived and first implemented as a Soviet
State under Bolshevism waged a second Holocaust against Christians in the 20th
Century and this too took place BEFORE Hitler and his Nazis came to power in
1933!

Here is the Second Holocaust waged by Jews against Christians in the 20th
Century:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/msg/577351743cb33adf
Subject: V3.0f Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism V2-5
Message-ID: <tarif15bfg5rr03vm...@4ax.com>
Date: 10 Aug 2005 03:26:18 GMT

The above archive documents the inception of communism as an ideology as well as
the movers and shakers behind the establishment of the first Soviet State along
with how Christians fared under such regimes! FULLY DOCUMENTED AND IRREFUTABLE!!

New Addition for February 5, 2005- Here is another Holocaust by Jews against
non-Jews in Ukraine (Jewish led Soviets had a Holocaust against 7,000,000
Ukrainians):

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/82690dc707209771


Subject: Ghostbusting in Ukraine -- Inordinate Role Jews Had in Ukrainian
Ethnocide T_0201
Date: 1 Feb 2005 18:52:33 GMT
Message-ID: <j4jvv0pf79pseq5do...@4ax.com>
--------------------------------------------------------

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/e2f730128d43d361


Subject: HOLODOMOR The Forgiven Holocaust of 1932-33...
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:36:46 -0600
Message-ID: <fp3201li1kc8ij58a...@4ax.com>
--------------------------------------------------------

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/a7c4e4c01ddfdb7b


Subject: "Holocaust" History -- Have you ever wondered why Ukrainians
volunteered for guard duty? T_0202
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:53:02 -0600
Message-ID: <nv3201hfkij06mroe...@4ax.com>
--------------------------------------------------------
Who was spreading "Sovietism" to Europe:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ff8d0e8a55137708


Subject: A Munich Soviet Established by Jews Before Nazism's Rise V3-0 T_0625
Message-ID: <6enub1tt0b5865men...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Jun 2005 02:10:28 GMT
--------------------------------------------------------
Who were generally regarded as "Soviets":

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/38001f94283e1e63


Subject: Soviets (Communists) Were Jews as Proven by BOOLEAN Operands (Classic
Repost from 3-31-2000) Abridged Version R_0516
Message-ID: <ek19cv4ei9cf2nrvu...@4ax.com>
Date: 16 May 2003 06:36:09 GMT
EXCERPT:
Lucy S. Dawidowicz
THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS 1933-1945
by Bantam Books Incorporated (#13084-6, 1979 ed).
The book's "Acknowledgments" starts with: "This book had its­ genesis in a
course I developed at the suggestion of Rabbi David Mirsky, Dean of­ Stern
College for Women, Yeshiva University [New York, New York 10033-3201 -- I added
the address- it was not in the original text. Tavish]. ...I am indebted to the
Yivo Institute for Jewish Research, the Blaustein Library of the American Jewish
Committee..."
On page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious anti-Semitic prejudices of the
Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians and activating their accumulated hatred
for the Soviets, the Germans harnessed the violent energies of these willing
collaborates to round up and kill Jews."
-> I now ask- How could the people named above have been anti-Semitic towards
the Soviets if they weren't Jews? The Ukrainians as well as others knew who
wrought the communist menace on their Motherland and it was Jews!
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/msg/87d1cf751ad2de2a

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I.E.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ff8d0e8a55137708


Subject: A Munich Soviet Established by Jews Before Nazism's Rise V3-0 T_0625
Message-ID: <6enub1tt0b5865men...@4ax.com>

Date: 27 Jun 2005 02:10:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/msg/577351743cb33adf
Subject: V3.0f Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism V2-5
Message-ID: <tarif15bfg5rr03vm...@4ax.com>
Date: 10 Aug 2005 03:26:18 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/f673e2d73f7adf66?fwc=2


Subject: Socialism Imported Into America, Canada, Rumania, Hungary, Poland,
Germany, Ukraine, Palestine (Israel) Etc. by Jews (In Their Own Words People!)

Message-ID: <ukgme1prrd96hrj6m...@4ax.com>
Date: 30 Jul 2005 09:06:03 GMT

The ironic thing about all of the above is that the Churches of Christendom now
ignore the history of what Jews have done to Christians and they are now
paralyzed with guilt feelings by such tactics as the Wiesenthal Center and other
organizations which evoke feelings of guilt in uninformed masses to cover for
their own genocide! Two wrongs do not make a right BUT for Jews to deny
Holocausts they have waged against Christians and uninformed adherents of
Christendom being made to feel guilty is the pinnacle of bedevilment by the
original Children of the Father of Lies-- The Devil.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/52ac29f3d3f63339


Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using

Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V3.0
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Date: 2 Aug 2005 01:21:22 GMT

Update ADDENDUM:

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I.E.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/6397aacef5d06498


Subject: Israel Kills Palestinian Boys, Steals Organs For Transplants V2.5
S_0723 Message-ID: <dgp5g0po2nirmqkej...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 Jul 2004 22:42:55 GMT

Also in light of the above here is how the Modern State of Israel treats all


non-Jews:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/dbcad3ea8da5bbea?fwc=2
Subject: Apartheid Laws in Israel (Different Author Series) V3.0
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Date: 30 Jul 2004 01:22:37 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/a9832ff4524f6c1d


Subject: Comparing Israel's "Anti-Christ Activism" to Other Middle East Nations

is NOT a Valid Comparison V3.0 T_0731
Message-ID: <6nbpe1hkig7o14gig...@4ax.com>
Date: 31 Jul 2005 11:30:08 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian.lutheran/msg/985bf8d94080f7d8?fwc=1
Subject: Palestine: 36,000 Trees Set Ablaze Since May V2.0 T_0822
Message-ID: <u5nkg15piap4ohevd...@4ax.com>
Date: 22 Aug 2005 23:28:56 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.palestine/msg/7a2b3e7b3b033368?fwc=1
Subject: Author no longer 'in love with the Zionist narrative' V2.0 T_0823
Message-ID: <ko5mg1ddaba46icg1...@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 12:36:12 GMT

REMEMBER FOLKS- The Modern State of Israel was founded on socialist/communist
ideology!

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/3d9a75bb20795c52
Subject: Palestine was Changed to a Socialist Jewish State in 1948 by Ben-Gurion
with Communist Soviet Union's Support V4-0 T_0728
Message-ID: <qfqie1pqg5595f1bb...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Jul 2005 23:47:06 GMT

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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/75f209a402a1ad67
Subject: Who says Socialism and Communism aren't the same and are adhered to by
the same people? CP USA Speaks out! V2.5 S_0629
Message-ID: <gpu2e09d520ab2gkc...@4ax.com>
Date: 29 Jun 2004 15:48:54 GMT
The above archive proves that communists use socialism as a transitory stage to
a communist state and in their own words too I might add!

Tavish

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.palestine/msg/5f236d361634c200


Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
(Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
Message-ID: <1ioifv01joma9fjqp...@4ax.com>

Compare the above to this post:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/86a22807544d3abf

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