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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 3, 2010, 12:22:24 PM1/3/10
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Michael wrote:
>
> I went up from 1000 mg per day to 2000 mg per day about 2 weeks ago.
> Yesterday evening I tested 3.6 ounces of orange. I also ate 4 ounces of
> meat with it. My starting BG was 102. After 45 minutes my BG was 100.
> Today I had 3.7 ounces of orange with no meat. My starting BG was 99. My
> 45 minutes post number was 100.
>
> I realize this is not a great victory considering I am taking 2000 mg
> Met per day. However, it has stifled my lust for fruit.

Being less hungry is being less healthy.

This does mean that the higher dose metformin may be causing long-term
harm to you that is comparable to other things that would make you
less hungry.

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier for the heart, soul, and mind:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f882137d4e2858d8?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Happy Oyster

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Jan 3, 2010, 1:35:10 PM1/3/10
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 09:22:24 -0800 (PST), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>Being less hungry is being less healthy.

That is an idiotic claim.

.
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Jan 4, 2010, 8:51:06 AM1/4/10
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> I realize this is not a great victory considering I am taking 2000 mg
> Met per day. However, it has stifled my lust for fruit.

"Being less hungry is being less healthy.

This does mean that the higher dose metformin may be causing long-term
harm to you that is comparable to other things that would make you less
hungry.

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier for the heart, soul, and mind:"

Before considering accepting or acting upon the opinions of andrew chung
on any topic, please read at least 3 of his other posts. Quickly you
will percieve clearly the truth of this warning. Any question his
opinion might suggest to you should be confirmed always with an expert
or others in the newsgroup.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:32:26 AM1/4/10
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a sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>a sockpuppet wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> a sockpuppet wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Vat is a normal part of all humans.
>>>>
>>>>"Incorrect.
>>>>
>>>>It remains an abnormal (harmful) part of many humans."
>>>
>>>"Many" does not save you from not having kept up on the research in this
>>>area. It is exactly as stated, happy to entertain any standard review
>>>of the subject you want to provide which speaks directly to the role of
>>>vat in all people.
>>
>>"Recent studies suggest that inflammation of visceral adipose tissue,
>>ectopic fat deposition and adipose tissue dysfunction mediate insulin
>>resistance in human obesity independently of total body fat mass."
>>
>>Source:
>>
>>Curr Opin Lipidol. 2009 Nov 12. [Epub ahead of print]
>>
>>PubMed link:
>>
>>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19915462
>
>Smile ...

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/47c7bf2798ba71d1?

This physician's smile is to your chagrin.

>... exactly what I asked you not do.

Incorrect.

Exactly what you were hoping this physician would not be able to do.

> You were to show us about the
> role of vat in all people.

Indeed, that which is written in generalities as this cited article
has applicability to all people and not just diabetics as underscored
by the additional fact that this article is not from a medical journal
specializing in diabetes.

Thus, problems start with any amount of VAT because it remains
pathological.

The cause of VAT is not eating the right amount of daily food.

Accordingly, the only way to lose the VAT is to eat the right amount
of daily food:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

Bottom line concerning your feigned issues with the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ba8379f6c69b4310?

<><

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Being hungrier truly is healthier especially for diabetics and other
heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist

and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/63d9553d4c7b8f7b?

Ken

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Jan 4, 2010, 10:53:12 AM1/4/10
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Happy O said: That is an idiotic claim.
(What else would you expect from a mentally confused idiot like
chung?)

Bottom line concerning chung:

Chung has been around for quite a few years now, and over time (last
5 years or so) his posts have degenerated from once being helpful and
knowledgeable to now being consumed with religion and what seems a
paranoid belief in his 2lb diet.
Very sad to a see a once clever man go down the gurgler like this,
but that is unfortunately the nature of his disease - most likely
schizophrenia


CCPed from "David"

Jan Drew

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:03:52 PM1/4/10
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On Jan 4, 10:53�am, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
> �Happy O said: That is an idiotic claim.

> (What else would you expect from a mentally confused idiot like
> chung?)
>
http://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=+66.245.37.81

OrgName: Earthlink, Inc.
OrgID: EARTH-19
Address: 1375 PEACHTREE STREET
Address: LEVEL A
City: ATLANTA
StateProv: GA
PostalCode: 30309
Country: US

Profile:

Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Title: chemist, mechanic, 60's radical
Industry: Scientific
Email address: flakey...@aol.com

Shows you are a liar and a troll.


Ken

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Jan 4, 2010, 6:33:51 PM1/4/10
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While the above PROVES you don't know shit, crap, poopie, caca,
doodie, or diddly squat.
Haven't been in Georgia since 1969---for Basic and AIT, FOOL

Lookup IP Address: 66.245.37.81

Hostname: user-11fa9ah.dsl.mindspring.com
ISP: EarthLink
Organization: EarthLink
Proxy: None detected
Type: Cable/DSL

Geo-Location Information
Country: United States
State/Region: CA
City: Oakland
Latitude: 37.795
Longitude: -122.2193
Area Code: 510

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Ken

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"Ken" <flak...@aol.com> wrote in message
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want you photo your phone or your address next

Jan Drew

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> Area Code: 510- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Title: chemist, mechanic, 60's radical
Industry: Scientific
Email address: flakey...@aol.com

66.245.37.81

OrgName: Earthlink, Inc.
OrgID: EARTH-19
Address: 1375 PEACHTREE STREET
Address: LEVEL A
City: ATLANTA
StateProv: GA
PostalCode: 30309
Country: US


OrgName: Earthlink, Inc.
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Address: 1375 PEACHTREE STREET
Address: LEVEL A
City: ATLANTA
StateProv: GA
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RTechHandle: DAE4-ARIN
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RTechEmail: ari...@corp.earthlink.net

OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE60-ARIN
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OrgTechEmail: arin...@lists.corp.earthlink.net

Joseph H.

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:11:53 AM1/5/10
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Le 2010-01-05 01:00, Jan Drew a écrit :
> On Jan 4, 6:33�pm, Ken<flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 4, 2:03�pm, Jan Drew<jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:

>>> OrgName: � �Earthlink, Inc.

Yup, Earthlink will be very impressed with your stalking talent, usenet
kook.

Jo H.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:14:23 AM1/5/10
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a sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> >> This gentile Christian disciple ate 32 oz of a broad variety of
> >> favorite foods yesterday and is satisfied knowing that the LORD
> >> provided all the good food that he needed. Do you know how much you
> >> ate yesterday? Why not? (It is really truly wise to know rather than
> >> guess by way of either portions, calories, carbs, fat grams, or
> >> feeling full) --> http://WDJW.net/BeWise
> >
> > This physician has had 23 oz of an assortment of tasty foods so far
> > for the day.
> >
> > Do you know how much you have eaten so far for the day?
>
> "Not enough", said millions of people today

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/89a6c214d9179abe?

Shouldn't necessarily be enough for the day yet and without the
weighing only ignorance reigns.

Ken

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Jan 5, 2010, 11:27:14 AM1/5/10
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On Jan 4, 10:00 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote: A LOAD OF
CRAP

Haven't been in Georgia since Basic Training in 1970, ya mental midget

Use a better ISP look-up, FOOL

Mark Probert

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Jan 5, 2010, 5:11:41 PM1/5/10
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On Jan 5, 11:27 am, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jan 4, 10:00 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote: A LOAD OF
> CRAP
>
> Haven't been in Georgia since Basic Training in 1970,

Benning?

MU

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Jan 5, 2010, 6:04:29 PM1/5/10
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On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 14:11:41 -0800 (PST), Mark Probert wrote:

> On Jan 5, 11:27�am, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 4, 10:00�pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote: A LOAD OF
>> CRAP
>>
>> Haven't been in Georgia since Basic Training in 1970,
>
> Benning?

Annette?

Ken

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Jan 5, 2010, 8:59:10 PM1/5/10
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Funicello?

Mark Probert

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Jan 5, 2010, 9:09:40 PM1/5/10
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You would not understand.

Jan Drew

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Jan 5, 2010, 11:26:13 PM1/5/10
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On Jan 5, 11:27�am, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:

Location: San Francisco Bay Area

66.245.37.81

RTechEmail: arin...@corp.earthlink.net


OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE60-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: ABUSE TEAM
OrgAbusePhone: +1-404-815-0770
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Jan Drew

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Jan 6, 2010, 3:53:31 PM1/6/10
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On Jan 4, 6:33�pm, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:

I did.

Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Title: chemist, mechanic, 60's radical
Industry: Scientific
Email address: flakey...@aol.com

66.245.37.81


OrgName: Earthlink, Inc.
OrgID: EARTH-19
Address: 1375 PEACHTREE STREET
Address: LEVEL A
City: ATLANTA
StateProv: GA
PostalCode: 30309
Country: US


OrgName: Earthlink, Inc.
OrgID: EARTH-19
Address: 1375 PEACHTREE STREET
Address: LEVEL A
City: ATLANTA
StateProv: GA
PostalCode: 30309
Country: US

NetRange: 66.245.0.0 - 66.245.159.255
CIDR: 66.245.0.0/17, 66.245.128.0/19
NetName: EARTHLINKDSL-3BLK
NetHandle: NET-66-245-0-0-1
Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
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NameServer: SCRATCHY.EARTHLINK.NET
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 2002-03-08
Updated: 2007-06-22


RTechHandle: DAE4-ARIN
RTechName: Domain Administrator, Administrator
RTechPhone: +1-404-815-0770
RTechEmail: arin...@corp.earthlink.net


OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE60-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: ABUSE TEAM
OrgAbusePhone: +1-404-815-0770
OrgAbuseEmail: ab...@abuse.earthlink.net


OrgTechHandle: ELNK-ORG-ARIN
OrgTechName: EarthLink, Inc.
OrgTechPhone: +1-404-815-0770
OrgTechEmail: arin_t...@lists.corp.earthlink.net

> Geo-Location Information


> Country: United States
> State/Region: CA
> City: Oakland
> Latitude: 37.795
> Longitude: -122.2193

Jan Drew

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Jan 6, 2010, 4:02:45 PM1/6/10
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On Jan 5, 11:27�am, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jan 4, 10:00�pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote: A LOAD OF
> CRAP

No, I did not post that. You did. That shows you are dishonest.
And a name caller.


>
> Haven't been in Georgia since Basic Training in 1970, ya mental midget
>
> Use a better ISP look-up, FOOL

You should know peoples' ISP is not where they live.

I have never lived in Texas.

MU

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Jan 6, 2010, 4:29:27 PM1/6/10
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Ranger training in Dahlonga.

Mark Probert

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Jan 6, 2010, 4:49:44 PM1/6/10
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Marksman training with 9th ID at Bear Cat, assigned LRRP, and 3/75 RR
when integrated.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:38:31 PM1/7/10
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a sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> >> This gentile Christian disciple ate 32 oz of a broad variety of
> >> favorite foods yesterday and is satisfied knowing that the LORD
> >> provided all the good food that he needed. Do you know how much you
> >> ate yesterday? Why not? (It is really truly wise to know rather than
> >> guess by way of either portions, calories, carbs, fat grams, or
> >> feeling full) --> http://WDJW.net/BeWise
> >
> > This physician has had 23 oz of an assortment of tasty foods so far
> > for the day.
> >
> > Do you know how much you have eaten so far for the day?
>
> "Not enough", said millions of people today

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/89a6c214d9179abe?

Shouldn't necessarily be enough for the day yet and without the
weighing only ignorance reigns.

Bottom line concerning your feigned issues with the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ba8379f6c69b4310?

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
life in remembrance of the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our
Messiah, the Son of Man:

http://WDJW.net/PrinceOfPeace

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier for the heart, soul, and mind:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f882137d4e2858d8?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist

GreatSageItchy

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Jan 7, 2010, 9:42:54 PM1/7/10
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In article
<effb5a8e-f632-459c...@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:


Andrew, the SUPREME EGOIST, ARROGANTLY wrote:
> > >
> > >> This gentile Christian disciple ate 32 oz of a broad variety of

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Thommadura

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The only person who would POST the above proves he is NO better than the
person he posted it too.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Bottom line concerning you, GSI:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a2f7ee7e467a65fc?

This has been affirmed by another:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ff30e76c4d3262f4?

... and more recently by yet another:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5e8b43791cd65c82?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

May GOD give you, GSI, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20
and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John
3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist

MU

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LRRP USARPAC-V 5th SFG 2nd brig 4thDiv

Mark Probert

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> LRRP USARPAC-V 5th SFG 2nd brig 4thDiv-

Had a friend who was KIA at Ban Me Thuout with the 4thID.

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Mark Probert

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> Had a friend who was KIA at Ban Me Thuout with the 4thID.-

Correction, Thuot.

Any VietVet knows the difference.

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MU

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MU was doc GS-12 working out of near there as MU "advised" into
Cambodia. Then the Army came in, SF Delta, with unis and carrying arms.
Pure lunacy. From civies to targets, Nha Trang orders. I got out.

MU

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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:31:24 -0800 (PST), Jan Drew wrote:

> Your correction was because *I* posted Whatever *Thuout* is.

So Probert's lying about 'Nam?

Mark Probert

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I went hunting there. I hunted colonels and above, and bagged a few.

Then the Army came in, SF Delta, with unis and carrying arms.

> Pure lunacy. From civies to targets, Nha Trang orders. I got out.-

Nha Trang has a GREAT beach, and I spent some nice time off there. Had
a friend at the COMM center which was nearby and he always found an
empty bunk for me and my friends.

The Nha Trang Hotel was 3-star rated by Playboy, and they had fresh
fruit for breakfast. Had one nasty fire fight inside the hotel one
night. Two sappers planting satchel charges at the Passover Stand
Down. Bunch of neo-Nazi VC. They were eliminated.

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