Question for Dr. Chung
Jason
I have renal artery stenosis and stage 1 (least serious stage) of left
ventricular diastolic dysfunction. I have also have paroxysmal dyspnea.
How long do people that have the above disorders usually live?
On a typical day, I have very littly energy.
My weight is normal
My age is 59
My sister died at the age of 62 of a stroke and heart disease runs in my
family.
My sister was a smoker and I am not a smoker.
I exercise (including riding an exercise bike 2 miles per day) 6 days per week.
I eat a low fat diet.
Thanks in advance,
jason
It appears that several medical newsgroup have been taken over by spammers.
Mick Jaggoff
This is no longer a medical newsgroup. Chung has been reduced to a
raving religious loony. Please consult an actual working physician,
with a practice and hospital privileges. Chung has neither.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> I have renal artery stenosis and stage 1 (least serious stage) of left
> ventricular diastolic dysfunction. I have also have paroxysmal dyspnea.
>
> How long do people that have the above disorders usually live?
Death rates are about 3 times higher than for folks without vascular
disease.
> On a typical day, I have very littly energy.
>
> My weight is normal
>
> My age is 59
>
> My sister died at the age of 62 of a stroke and heart disease runs in my
> family.
>
> My sister was a smoker and I am not a smoker.
>
> I exercise (including riding an exercise bike 2 miles per day) 6 days per week.
>
> I eat a low fat diet.
You need to lose all your visceral adipose tissue (VAT) in hopes of
being cured of your vascular disease.
> Thanks in advance,
> jason
Laus Deo for your thanks :-)
> It appears that several medical newsgroup have been taken over by spammers.
It does keep the religious people away :-)
Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth
May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by giving them a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the Truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Peter B
news:ca5501a2-e7a7-4048...@z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> It appears that several medical newsgroup have been taken over by
>> spammers.
>
> It does keep the religious people away :-)
>
Guess good ol handy andy has quit considering himself religious.
gotta love his attempts at using Latin, guess when you can't read the bible
or quote it properly you can sound all religious if you use Latin, a dead
language.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
> > What is described at Revelation 19:10 is how it would be wrong to fall
> > at the feet of an angel to worship an angel, instead of worshiping the
> > LORD Himself, Who is Jesus.
>
> Revelation 19:10 (English Standard Version)
> 10 Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, "You must
> not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to
> the testimony of Jesus. Worship God." For the testimony of Jesus is the
> spirit of prophecy.
Amen.
Yes, we "must not" fall down at the feet of an angel to worship an
angel instead of worshiping GOD Himself.
"My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
from Jesus
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d6054b28f5096166?
> > GOD has a mind (Father), a heart (Son), and a soul (Holy Spirit) with
> > the love of GOD residing in His heart, Who is our risen LORD Jesus
> > 'Christ' of Nazareth (Romans 8:39). It is the mind of GOD Who knows
> > (Matthew 24:36) the appointed time when His heart will return in the
> > flesh for His disciples to physically recognize (Luke 24:32) Him in
> > order to meet up with Him in the air at the appointed place (Luke
> > 17:37):
>
> Just doing a spot check here. Chung makes a statement and posts a reference
> to back up his theories.
Exegesis of Scripture is not theoretical.
> So I took the liberty of looking up the verses and
> pasting them in here. You see if it makes any sense to you, heathen or
> believer.
This should make sense to those who have been made discerning by the
Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) indwelling within them.
> Romans 8:39 (English Standard Version)
> 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to
> separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Amen.
Yes, the love of GOD resides in the Heart of GOD, Who is Christ Jesus
our LORD.
"My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
from Jesus
> Matthew 24:36 (English Standard Version)
>
> No One Knows That Day and Hour
> 36 "But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of
> heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.
Amen.
Yes, only GOD the Father, Who is the Mind of GOD, knows "that day and
hour" when His Son, Who is the Heart of GOD will return for those of
us who are His disciples, either Jew or gentile:
> Luke 24:32 (English Standard Version)
> 32 They said to each other, "Did not our hearts burn within us while he
> talked to us on the road, while he opened to us the Scriptures?"
Amen.
Yes, it is when our "hearts burn within us", which is our being
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry , that we physically recognize that
our risen LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is really walking and talking
with us though our eyes don't see Him and our ears don't hear him :-)
"My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
from Jesus
> Luke 17:37 (English Standard Version)
> 37 And they said to him, "Where, Lord?" He said to them, "Where the corpse
> is, there the vultures will gather."
Amen.
Yes, Jesus tells us exactly where we need to be to meet-up with Him
when we are taken by Him from this world :-)
> Jesus has already returned and showed his disciples who he is. Luke 24: 32
Incorrect. Followers Cleopas and Simon were kept from recognizing
Jesus (Luke 24:16).
Moreover, these followers were **not** disciples as evident by their
failure to recognize Jesus.
You, Peter B., do not have the counsel of the Holy Spirit.
This is because you have not been born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as evident
by your not being able to publicly (Philippians 2:10-11) say "Jesus is
LORD" (1 Corinthians 12:3) with your mouth (Romans 10:9).
faux-christian Peter B wrote::
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part in the past:
>
> > Actually, Dr. Hildner was replaced by me as he was retired back in 2001
> > after having to settle for several sizeable malpractice awards.
>
> Did Chung really lie?
No. It remains this physician's choice to continue to write truthfully
then and now.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?
faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MU wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> > MU wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
>>> >>> of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
>>> >>> by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating
>>> >>> 32 oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
>>> >>> else who have been doing the same.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
>>> >>> according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yes, the right amount control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much more
>>> >>> sophisticated and smarter:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
>>> >>
>>> >>"Yes, I would agree, and as I've posted in the past, I've discovered
>>> >>by experiment that with my typical kind of diet, 2lbs is about the
>>> >>threshold for me above which I gain weight and below which I lose it.
>>> >>
>>> >>I'm sure, however, that you can recall a number of doctors
>>> >>disagreeing with your diet on the grounds that a member of the public
>>> >>couldn't be trusted not to eat 2lbs of ice cream and think they were
>>> >>following your diet."
>>> >>
>>> >>See, there's proof. Just because you have you Ph.D. doesn't mean you
>>> >>can't succumb to the most ridiculous of arguments.
>>> >
>>> > Moreover, Bob Pastorio, who has argued the most against the
>>> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach, did not even have a Ph.D. unless one
>>> > in the culinary arts has been since posthumously conferred upon him.
>>>
>>> Howdy, Andrew, Pastorio's only degree was in the level of assclown he
>>> obtained.
>>>
>>> Full fledged imo i.e. FF.A.
>>>
>>> MU
>>
>> Meet Bob Pastorio's palindrome, Peter B.
>>
>> BP (Bob Pastorio) --> PB (Peter B.)
>>
>> A mirror image:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af1f2d9f004b20ed?
>>
>> Just as BP could not comprehend the fact that the ephah did not exist
>> at the time of Moses and the writing of Exodus for us to remove
>> the parentheses (for parenthetical) from around what is found at
>> Exodus 16:36 neither can PB.
>
>Don't know any BP and they aren't me.
>
>Here are the books in order that they were written.
>1: Genesis
>2: Exodus
>3: Leviticus
>4: Numbers
>5: Deuteronomy
>
>So if Deuteronomy was written later what difference would your statement
>make. NONE
It is because Deuteronomy was written after Exodus that the words
which the Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) has guided this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) to write has much weight :-)
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/49a31d5cd1d9c361?
>
>> 36 (An omer is one tenth of an ephah.)
>>
>> Source:
>>
>> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2016:36&version=NIV
>>
>> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit referring to
>> Exodus 16:36
>
> You just blasphemed The Holy Spirit.
Not for the discerning who realize from the above that indeed this
gentile Christian disciple really is in the Holy Spirit:
faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.
> >
>
> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as
> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
> persons each of you has in his tent.'"
Amen.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?
> Omer = 3.3 liters.
Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
of the Covenant has since been lost to us.
Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
else who have been doing the same.
An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d740c3a4191d3e1b?
Yes, the right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Freckles wrote:
>
> >> Eat more whole grains for a better diet.
> >>
> >> http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/reap-the-benefits-of-whole-grains
> >
> > Eat the right amount (32 oz) per day for better health and wellbeing.
>
> That is a particularly ignorant/dumb statement.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/443f61cdd0473b11?
Not for the discerning who are familiar with Proverbs 25:16 which
teaches us that eating the right amount of food is more important for
health and wellbeing than what we are eating.
Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like
you, Peter B.:
2 Peter 2:22
Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:
Here is another's opinion about you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ad3ab8bf96435b6?
Bottom line concerning you, Peter:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/abf1b9d597143cff?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ of
Nazareth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/63d9553d4c7b8f7b?
carole
"Peter B" <.@.> wrote in message news:4c75...@news.x-privat.org...
And Peter B tries to sound all educated and intelligent, when his main
obsessions are "his belief" and "porn".
carole
www.conspiracee.com
Peter B
news:Mvkdo.4608$FH2...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...
That is funny Carole, how does one sound all educated and intelligent?
You are obsessed with porn, not me. Sorry. You got all hot on the history of
the vibrator, then you got all hot on the size of my thang, then the word
titillated titillated you. That was rich, and here you are obsessed about
beliefs? Like silica perhaps? Or how about conspiracies? Is there and end to
your "beliefs"? What is your problem? Did you want to be my porn star? Nope,
ain't gonna happen not when you've got silica for brains. (that is sand in
case you can't figger it out.)
Joseph H.
Jason, I suffer from arteriosclerosis and came here to see if I could
seek out advice or even help some people.
Turns out the group has been single-handedly destroyed by Chung, a
failed doctor, a liar and a fraud, not to mention a narcissist in full
mental collapse. I'm not even joking.
I'm still here trying to protect people from the danger of Chung's diet.
I did found resources on the web where I can exchange with sane doctors
and cool patients. Alas, they're all in the French language, my mother
tongue, but you'll easily find competent people on the web.
But flee this ng. If you find help elsewhere, my presence here would not
have been in vain.
Good luck !
carole
There you go again talking about vibrators when I was talking about
VIBRATIONAL medicine which would include homeopathy, bach remedies and
radiowaves.
You can't even get your terms right.
carole
www.cellsalts.net
Peter B
A vibrator is used for any vibration pattern, can't you get that through
your head?
The history of the vibrator which you cannot seem to get over was
vibrational medicine for women performed by medical doctors of the day. If
you think that is a joke then the joke has been played on everyone for over
150 years. They said it reduced stress, headaches and what all. There was a
list attached to the message which either you or Janet saved to read at your
leisure and repost when you all get hot.
I used your terms and found it. It later became homopathetic when the size
and price dropped to a point where the avg woman can own one, just like you.
Why all the fuss, you puritanical or something?
carole
"Peter B" <.@.> wrote in message news:4c76...@news.x-privat.org...
> and price dropped to a point where the avg woman can own one, just like
> you.
>
> Why all the fuss, you puritanical or something?
If you brought up this kind of talk in an office setting, you would face the
possibility of sexual harrassment charges.
Your conversation about vibrators now amounts to sexual harrassment.
It is inappropriate, unnecessary and potentially can get you taken to
arbitration or court.
carole
www.conspiracee.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
a sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > a sockpuppet wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> a sockpuppet wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Nobody will ever get your imaginary money, fraudulent twerp.
> >>>
> >>> Folks would not be upset here if the money were imaginary.
> >>
> >> Some authorities would be, fraud :
> >>
> >> http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Laws/Georgia
> >
> > And yet they're not therefore the money is real.
>
> No, liar ...
It remains this physician's personal choice to continue writing
truthfully.
> ... it's because they don't know about your little scam.
If that were true, then it would be the authorities that are imaginary
and not the money. Truth is simple :-)
Moreover, all, including the authorities, are starting to realize that
**possibly** in time as the 7-figure guarantee increases, doubling
every few years and possibly becoming even 8-figures, governments
struggling with increasing healthcare costs would take notice and make
the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach a matter of public health
policy:
This would not be possible without GOD's help (Matthew 19:26) and
providence of information that there is indeed one right daily amount
(omer) for all walks of life (Exodus 16:16). All glory to GOD the
Father and our risen LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth :-)
a sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > trigonometry wrote:
> >>
> >> Was it the sunflower seeds and the couple of pieces
> >> of fruit that raised the FBG? On the other hand,
> >> my blood pressure, seems to be ideal today at
> >> the last reading being 117/75 at pulse of 66.
> >> Anyway, the 128 FBG on Monday and
> >> 120 on Tueday did not make me happy.
> >> Today it was 108?
> >>
> >> I am going to clamp down on myself. And get back
> >> to actually measuring the weights of certain foods
> >> that I consume.
> >
> > Why not do as Chris Malcolm is doing and simply weigh the entire meal?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
> Is that "Chris Malcolm" a candidate for your 2,000,000 $ giveaway?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f62cabae7e723e?
Perhaps Chris Malcolm would be eligible in a few months if he were to
eat more than 10 lbs of food daily possibly gaining 90 lbs to receive
the diagnosis of obesity especially if he starts needing insulin to
regulate his blood glucose.
However, we know that if he were to then go back to holding to the
right amount (32 oz) of daily food then he would be cured of his
obesity and the $2,000,000.00 guarantee would remain in force as it
has for years now :-) Truth is simple :-)
a sockpuppet wrote:
> So, Chung, what about telling us the name and address of the bank where
> the money ($2,000,000.00) is held on escrow, so that we could verify
> that it really exists ?
This information has been and continues to be disclosed by others to
those who truly have a need to know. If you were among those who truly
have a need to know, you would have already known this :-)
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cb63d8fe96d5da2c?
a sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> obie wrote:
>>> lil abner
>>>> pp wrote:
>>>
>>>>> For most type 2's diabetes is a disease of gluttony.
>>>>> Too much fat, too little exercise, too much rich food and not
>>>>> the least eating too many animals thereby contributing to the
>>>>> suffering of billions. For T2s it's their payback, their bad
>>>>> karma. God has a way of paying people back and our species is
>>>>> in for a big fall.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nuf said.
>>>>
>>>> You must be physic or loony one.
>>>> I am over weight now. That is one thing Insulin does for me.
>>>> The cause was Agent Orange. It was not something made up.
>>>> how dare you come on this ng and insult Diabetics.
>>>> I assure you they don't want to be that way.
>>>> Perhaps, some of us, if we lived frugaly and hard like our Grand Prents
>>>> and before we might not have Diabetes. But that is only conjecture.
>>>> people had Diabetes many ages before it was called Diabetes.
>>>> Some of my native American Ancestors had Diabetes. I assure you they
>>>> weren't "fat" and didn't sit in a recliner watching tv all day.
>>>> So blow it out your ---.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The truth hurts.
>>>
>>> How frequently do you see a thin, athletic type that has Type
>>> 2, almost never, especially if they are vegans or
>>> vegetarians.
>>>
>>> Well known fact that concentration camp prisoners never had
>>> diabetes, least not T2.
>>
>> They were kept from eating in excess.
>
> What an odious little "man" you are, Chung.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ce840a1be3bea53e?
This physician is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while being
villified for writing truthfully (Matthew 5:10).
prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
"Doc, my right *ball* has swollen to about 8.25cm (3 1/4"), perhaps a
little more? It's about the size around as the top of a coffee mug.
Ok Doc, what do you think? Oh it grew from normal to this size in
about, maybe 3 days, perhaps less?
I told the ER Doc it was about the size of a Volley Ball during our
pre exam talk. When he pulled back the sheet to have a look the first
word out of his mouth wasn't Jesus, it was *WOW*! One other thing, his
name is Kim, and he is oriental." -- Prodigal Jimmy Alpha
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f8253d58852b1f4e?
For an ER Doc to be taken by surprise by a swollen testicle the size
of a "Volley Ball" under a bed sheet means that you are morbidly obese
so that the protuberance of your abdomen dwarfs everything else.
Your being morbidly obese would also be consistent with your history
of bilateral quadriceps rupture:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5b1b0839f48b487c?
"Bilateral quadriceps rupture is a rare injury that is often secondary
to predisposing medical conditions."
Source:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2767147/?tool=pubmed
Yes, morbid obesity would be that serious medical condition that would
predispose you to the bilateral quadriceps rupture that you have
suffered.
It is now no wonder why you are reacting so adversely to GOD's 2PD-
OMER Approach (Exodus 16:16)...
... the Holy Spirit convicts you about your overeating (John 5:14):
prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) is the only way (Mt16:28,
>>>> Mk9:1, Lk9:27& Jn8:51) to immortality while here on Earth.
>>>
>>> sightwalker, nothing to do with diet or approach making you a lier.
>>
>> Not for the discerning who have read the Bible.
>>
>> Exodus 16:16 is GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach as prescribed in His written
>> word.
>
>This is not in the post I replied to, making you a liar.
Not for the discerning who have read your post:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/84c2b918221d8cb5?
>> Mt16:28, Mk9:1, Lk9:27& Jn8:51 are about immortality for those who
>> keep His written word with the first command to Adam&Eve to not eat
>> more than they need.
>
> Not the subject of post I replied to, making you a liar.
Not for the discerning who have read the subject line of the post you
replied to:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43da3ce173361752?
prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> a neighbor wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-08-14/obesity-link-to-diabetes-found-in-white-blood-cells-study-says.html
>>> Aug. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Immune-system cells that cause inflammation in
>>> fat tissue may explain why Type 2 diabetes mostly occurs in people who
>>> are overweight, Australian researchers said.
>>
>> The only known safe cure for obesity is the miraculous $2,000,000.00
>> http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach first prescribed by GOD (Exodus
>> 16:16).
>
> That's not been shown true as the *only* "known safe cure for obesity"!
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f4a72ff8e2bd693d?
Actually, it is easily shown to be the only known safe cure for
obesity by the following proof...
Null hypothesis:
The 2PD-OMER Approach is not the only known safe cure for obesity.
Prediction based on the null hypothesis:
Detractors such as prodigal Jimmy Alpha would have listed other known
safe cures for obesity.
Actual observation:
Detractors such as prodigal Jimmy Alpha have not been able to list
other known safe cures for obesity.
Conclusion:
Reject the null hypothesis and conclude that GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach
(Exodus 16:16) is the only known safe cure for obesity.
prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
> > Carole wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >>> It remains smarter to eat the right amount (32 oz) of food per day:
> >>>
> >>> http://WDJW.net/BeSmart
> >>
> >> As I said before and never got any reply.
> >>
> >> If the lo-cal diet was so good, then the people in the third world would be
> >> really healthy.
> >
> > The http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach is http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
> >
> >> If your theory is correct, how come they don't live longer and healthier
> >> lives?
> >
> > They are eating less than the right amount (32 oz) of food per day.
> >
> > Truth is simple.
>
> Charlie, how do we know this, because you say so?
We, who are smart, have learned the math that zero ounces is less than
thirty-two ounces.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4c8e72eca845c102?
Again, would continue to gently suggest that you, Jimmy, stop lying
before you possibly suffer a psychotic break from reality (i.e. lose
your mind):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/013d97011bed20f3?
Yes, you know you have been lying:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/363c44ee711557eb?
Yes, you, Jimmy, are prodigal http://WDJW.net/LostSheep
May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is
right(Je9:24), Jimmy, so that you would be able to guard your
deceitful heart(Je17:9) which is causing you to physically perish as
you continue to sin by lying.
Amen.
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat….but
not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few things,
as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Jason
<hubbc...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Carole,
I have noticed over the last several years that many medical related
newsgroups have gone downhill. I don't know all of the reasons but I know
some of them. Spammers tare one of the reasons. There are many other
reasons but I don't know all of them. I doubt that medical doctors help
very many people in medical newsgroups like they once done because of the
spammers and other problems related to trying to help people in
newsgroups. If I was a doctor, I doubt that I would help people in medical
newsgroups due to the hassles. Doctors that identify themselves risk
lawsuits if they provide info. that causes harm in medical newsgroups.
Many years ago, it was common for doctors to stop at car accidents and
provide help. That rarely happens anymore due to the fear of lawsuits. I
am on your side. People should not be harrassed--even in newsgroups. I
watched the sad story on television about some young children that killed
themselves since they had been victims of school bullies. Let's face it,
the world is going downhill. I am 59 years old and the world we are living
in right now is far different than it was in the 1960s and 1970s. Back in
those days, people respected each other much more than they do now.
I hope this helps,
Jason
al
> I have renal artery stenosis and stage 1 (least serious stage) of left
> ventricular diastolic dysfunction. I have also have paroxysmal dyspnea.
>
Since you are asking whacko Chung a medical question, you should also
have mentioned that you are a little screwy.
Go ask your physician, not some newsgroup crazy like Chung!!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Carole wrote to faux-christian Peter B:
> >
> > If you brought up this kind of talk in an office setting, you would face the
> > possibility of sexual harrassment charges.
> > Your conversation about vibrators now amounts to sexual harrassment.
> > It is inappropriate, unnecessary and potentially can get you taken to
> > arbitration or court.
>
> I have noticed over the last several years that many medical related
> newsgroups have gone downhill. I don't know all of the reasons but I know
> some of them. Spammers tare one of the reasons. There are many other
> reasons but I don't know all of them. I doubt that medical doctors help
> very many people in medical newsgroups like they once done because of the
> spammers and other problems related to trying to help people in
> newsgroups. If I was a doctor, I doubt that I would help people in medical
> newsgroups due to the hassles. Doctors that identify themselves risk
> lawsuits if they provide info. that causes harm in medical newsgroups.
Indeed, the fact that this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has
been posting in the medical newsgroups for more than 14 years (since
1996) without lawsuit is evidence that the information that he
provided and has continued to provide has not harmed anyone and
instead has helped people with all glory to GOD the Father :-)
Primum non nocere
Joseph H.
> Jason wrote:
>> Carole wrote to faux-christian Peter B:
>>>
>>> If you brought up this kind of talk in an office setting, you would face the
>>> possibility of sexual harrassment charges.
>>> Your conversation about vibrators now amounts to sexual harrassment.
>>> It is inappropriate, unnecessary and potentially can get you taken to
>>> arbitration or court.
>>
>> Carole,
>> I have noticed over the last several years that many medical related
>> newsgroups have gone downhill. I don't know all of the reasons but I know
>> some of them. Spammers tare one of the reasons. There are many other
>> reasons but I don't know all of them. I doubt that medical doctors help
>> very many people in medical newsgroups like they once done because of the
>> spammers and other problems related to trying to help people in
>> newsgroups. If I was a doctor, I doubt that I would help people in medical
>> newsgroups due to the hassles. Doctors that identify themselves risk
>> lawsuits if they provide info. that causes harm in medical newsgroups.
>
> Indeed, the fact that this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has
> been posting in the medical newsgroups for more than 14 years (since
> 1996) without lawsuit is evidence that the information that he
> provided and has continued to provide
... is considered as opinions. You provided neither prescriptions nor
medical acts, you bozo.
You're just a small-minded, narcissistic Usenet kook who destroyed this
once good ng by making it your personal realm for the purpose of
schlepping a fraudulent and dangerous diet.
<snip the usual garbage>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f62cabae7e723e?
a sockpuppet wrote:
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cb63d8fe96d5da2c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ce840a1be3bea53e?
prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f8253d58852b1f4e?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5b1b0839f48b487c?
Source:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2767147/?tool=pubmed
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/84c2b918221d8cb5?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43da3ce173361752?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f4a72ff8e2bd693d?
Null hypothesis:
Actual observation:
Conclusion:
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4c8e72eca845c102?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/013d97011bed20f3?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/363c44ee711557eb?
Amen.
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat….but
not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few things,
as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the truth,
Andrew <><
Ken
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Schizophrenia can set in at any time but it's usual shows up in early
> adulthood.
>
> I'm predisposed due to my biological maw spending her adult life in a
> hospital as a paranoid schizophrenic before passing in '66
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/40a1fbe0d8ff812a?
Only the truth, Who is Jesus, can keep you from becoming more
delusional like your mom was.
There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
psychopathology:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3f56b038f17f681b?
Bottom line concerning you, Ken:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e444a7f27fc8ae79?
Truth is reality ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/459c9c0ed3b24ca2?
... despite your efforts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3160f9fd903ab7c2?
And, so this bona-fide physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) freely
chooses to continue to pray for you as outlined per the amazing
Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation earlier:
May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, Ken, a new heart and a
new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born
again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by Him so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ of
Nazareth,
Andrew <><
Peter B
As usual you are incorrect. Especially since you brought the whole thing up.
You are as incorrect as that Linda broad who keeps bringing things up but
putting the blame for her actions on the shoulders of other people.
I don't know how you get titillated so easily, maybe your lifestyle is not
so normal?
Peter B
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:363663b2-2618-4609...@g6g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
> a sockpuppet wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > a sockpuppet wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>> a sockpuppet wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Nobody will ever get your imaginary money, fraudulent twerp.
>> >>>
>> >>> Folks would not be upset here if the money were imaginary.
>> >>
>> >> Some authorities would be, fraud :
>> >>
>> >> http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Laws/Georgia
>> >
>> > And yet they're not therefore the money is real.
>>
>> No, liar ...
>
> It remains this physician's personal choice to continue writing
> truthfully.
>
>> ... it's because they don't know about your little scam.
>
> If that were true, then it would be the authorities that are imaginary
> and not the money. Truth is simple :-)
>
> Moreover, all, including the authorities, are starting to realize that
> **possibly** in time as the 7-figure guarantee increases, doubling
> every few years and possibly becoming even 8-figures, governments
> struggling with increasing healthcare costs would take notice and make
> the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach a matter of public health
> policy:
>
> http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc
>
> providence of information that there is indeed one right daily amount
> (omer) for all walks of life (Exodus 16:16). All glory to GOD the
> Father and our risen LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth :-)
>
16 This is what the LORD has commanded: 'Gather of it, each one of you, as
much as he can eat. You shall each take an omer,[a] according to the number
of the persons that each of you has in his tent.'"
Footnotes:
a. Exodus 16:16 An omer was about 2 quarts or 2 liters
1 quart = 32 oz
Does Andrew ever tell the truth?
carole
"Jason" <Ja...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Jason-26081...@67-150-125-131.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com...
Thanks for your input Jason.
However, the subject of sexual harrassment as an issue is one that has
arisen more recently as part of the feminist movement.
And so in a way you could say the world is improving because these issues
used to be ignored and the men could get away with intimidation of women by
suggestive comments and lewdness to make women feel uncomfortable. There are
a whole range of issues and charges now relating to sexual harrassment and
its a brave bloke in the workplace who would make such comments as peter b
does in this ng. He is showing his age and obviously hasn't caught up with
the times with are a'changing.
carole
www.conspiracee.com
carole
"Peter B" <.@.> wrote in message news:4c77...@news.x-privat.org...
>
> "carole" <hubbc...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:ZTpdo.4554$Yv....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...
>>
>>>
>>> Why all the fuss, you puritanical or something?
>>
>> If you brought up this kind of talk in an office setting, you would face
>> the possibility of sexual harrassment charges.
>> Your conversation about vibrators now amounts to sexual harrassment.
>> It is inappropriate, unnecessary and potentially can get you taken to
>> arbitration or court.
>>
>
> As usual you are incorrect. Especially since you brought the whole thing
> up.
You bring it into conversations regularly.
>
> You are as incorrect as that Linda broad who keeps bringing things up but
> putting the blame for her actions on the shoulders of other people.
>
> I don't know how you get titillated so easily, maybe your lifestyle is not
> so normal?
Talk like that is exactly what I mean ...referring to women as being
"titilated" or any other such thing.
Its out of place, unwarranted and un-called for - such conversation only
used to intimidate, harrass and embarrass women, and these days it just
isn't tolerated.
carole
www.conspiracee.com
Jason
"carole" <hubbc...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
carole,
You are correct. The laws related to sexual harrassment make sense since
they reduce the incidents of sexual harrassment. I remember that is was
common for construction workers to whistle at women that walked by
construction sites. I hope that does not happen any more.
Peter B
That is funny. The only women that complained were the ones who couldn't
draw whistles. So they make rules to drop things to the lowest common
denominator, ugly.
Feminism = Ugly Women. They even have boots for them, they are called Ugh's
Peter B
>
> "Peter B" <.@.> wrote in message news:4c77...@news.x-privat.org...
>>
>> "carole" <hubbc...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:ZTpdo.4554$Yv....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...
>>>
>
>>>>
>>>> Why all the fuss, you puritanical or something?
>>>
>>> If you brought up this kind of talk in an office setting, you would face
>>> the possibility of sexual harrassment charges.
>>> Your conversation about vibrators now amounts to sexual harrassment.
>>> It is inappropriate, unnecessary and potentially can get you taken to
>>> arbitration or court.
>>>
>>
>> As usual you are incorrect. Especially since you brought the whole thing
>> up.
>
> You bring it into conversations regularly.
>
Sorry, but you are the one who keeps bringing it up. Not me.
The last time you did this it ended up speaking about my privates and its
size, but you think that is ok since there is no such thing as Manism.
>>
>> You are as incorrect as that Linda broad who keeps bringing things up but
>> putting the blame for her actions on the shoulders of other people.
>>
>> I don't know how you get titillated so easily, maybe your lifestyle is
>> not so normal?
>
> Talk like that is exactly what I mean ...referring to women as being
> "titilated" or any other such thing.
> Its out of place, unwarranted and un-called for - such conversation only
> used to intimidate, harrass and embarrass women, and these days it just
> isn't tolerated.
>
titillating
A adjective
1 titillating
pleasantly and superficially exciting
2 tickling, tingling, titillating
exciting by touching lightly so as to cause laughter or twitching
movements
3 erotic, titillating
giving sexual pleasure; sexually arousing
tit搏l損ate (tit''l at')
transitive verb titillated -損at'ed, titillating -損at'搏ng
1 .tickle
2. to excite or stimulate pleasurably
[,,,,,]
My guess is that you are titillated by the mere mention of the word.
Guess your mind is in the "gutter"?
You seem to focus on the last part of the definition, not the primary
meaning. You show your own peculiar interests, not those of the author, me.
The visuals of you laying there in the midst of a big O are not the most
titillating.
> carole
Jason
Good news. I will be going to see a local cardiologist the last day of
this month. Thanks to Dr. Chung and the other people that responded to my
post.
Thanks again,
jason
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
The footnote is incorrect simply because it is written that manna is
ready-to-eat-food that has the consistency of "wafers made from
honey" (Exodus 16:31) which would be unlike either a grain or a fluid
so that it stands to reason that an omer of manna is not a volume unit
of manna but rather a weight unit of manna.
faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MU wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> > MU wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/49a31d5cd1d9c361?
faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
Amen.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?
> Omer = 3.3 liters.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d740c3a4191d3e1b?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Freckles wrote:
>
> >> Eat more whole grains for a better diet.
> >>
> >> http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/reap-the-benefits-of-whole-grains
> >
> > Eat the right amount (32 oz) per day for better health and wellbeing.
>
> That is a particularly ignorant/dumb statement.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/443f61cdd0473b11?
Not for the discerning who are familiar with Proverbs 25:16 which
teaches us that eating the right amount of food is more important for
health and wellbeing than what we are eating.
Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like
you, Peter B.:
2 Peter 2:22
Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:
Here is another's opinion about you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ad3ab8bf96435b6?
Bottom line concerning you, Peter:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/abf1b9d597143cff?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ of
Nazareth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/63d9553d4c7b8f7b?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Laus Deo ( http://WDJW.net/LausDeo ) for your thanks :-)
Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth
May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by giving them a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the Truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Peter B
Exodus 16:31 (New American Standard Bible)
31 The house of Israel named it manna, and it was like coriander seed,
white, and its taste was like wafers with honey.
There is the verse for you. Manna is the food. Omer is the weight. Thus it
has been and always shall be, it is the same throughout the Bible. I have
quoted you many verses on this. Had you taken the care or time to read them
you would have seen it.
Omer has always been 1/10 of an ephah.
It also was an Omer of Manna that was sealed in a Jar that was put inside
the Ark of the Covenant. Here is the verse once again which states so.
Exodus 16
33 And Moses said to Aaron, "Take a jar, and put an omer of manna in it, and
place it before the Lord to be kept throughout your generations."
Please take the time to actually study the Bible rather than grabbing idea's
out of context.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Yes, omer for manna is a weight measure of manna unlike either quart
or liter, which are volume measures.
Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
else who have been doing the same.
An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
Holding to an omer of food per day is right amount control:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d740c3a4191d3e1b?
Yes, the right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Peter B
> faux-christian Peter B wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > faux-christian Peter B wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> Exodus 16:16 (English Standard Version)
>> >>
>> >> 16 This is what the LORD has commanded: 'Gather of it, each one of
>> >> you,
>> >> as much as he can eat. You shall each take an omer,[a] according to
>> >> the
>> >> number of the persons that each of you has in his tent.'"
>> >>
>> >> Footnotes:
>> >> a. Exodus 16:16 An omer was about 2 quarts or 2 liters
>> >
>> > The footnote is incorrect simply because it is written that manna is
>> > ready-to-eat-food that has the consistency of "wafers made from
>> > honey" (Exodus 16:31) which would be unlike either a grain or a fluid
>> > so that it stands to reason that an omer of manna is not a volume unit
>> > of manna but rather a weight unit of manna.
>> >
>>
>> Exodus 16:31 (New American Standard Bible)
>>
>> 31 The house of Israel named it manna, and it was like coriander seed,
>> white, and its taste was like wafers with honey.
>>
>> There is the verse for you. Manna is the food. Omer is the weight.
>
> Yes, omer for manna is a weight measure of manna unlike either quart
> or liter, which are volume measures.
>
I assume you meant to say "omer OF manna"? You cannot have an "Ounce FOR
Manna" but you can have an "Ounce OF manna" A quart of anything is a quart.
Pure and simple. A gallon likewise is a volume container.
gal of water 8.35#
gal of gasoline 8#
gal of milk 8.6#
So you see, weighing by container size is deceiving based on what is inside.
And this is not even taking into account temperature which will make a big
difference.
A "Jar" as in Exodus 16
33 And Moses said to Aaron, "Take a jar, and put an omer of manna in it, and
place it before the Lord to be kept throughout your generations." is non
specific in volume or size.
An omer is 1/10th of an ephah. An ephah was about 3/5 bushel or 22 liters
= 704 ounces (about)
> Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
> of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
> by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
> oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
> else who have been doing the same.
As you can see in Leviticus God felt it very important to have accuracy, a
fair and just method that all may be comfortable with, and all can know for
a certainty.
OTH, you Andrew B Chung have decided on your own, without God, to
"empirically" determine the weight of an "omer of food."
God changes not, he does not appreciate those who go about and tamper with
His Word. He is a Jealous God. Satan, aka Lucifer, felt he like you could
countermand Gods word and take over making decisions for himself and
pleasing himself. As you will learn all that did was earn him, Lucifer and
his angels, a place in the Lake of Fire and Brimstone that burns for ever
and ever.
God will allow you to eat as little or as much as you wish. However in the
case of the Jews wandering in the wilderness for 40 years he needed to feed
them as well as teach them to honor His word. Therefore they were rationed
as to how much they can collect and store. You, not being a Jew, not
wandering in the desert for 40 years are under no such punishment. You DO
however need to study His word,
Leviticus 19:36 'You shall have just balances, just weights, a just ephah,
and a just hin; I am the LORD your God, who brought you out from the land of
Egypt.
>
> An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
> according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
>
Again, you dwell with the spirit of error. Exo 16:16 was written for the
Jew, for their benefit.
Furthermore, it was Manna, which cannot be purchased anywhere. A food stuff
manufactured every morning by God and collected early in the day, each day
save the 7th. It could not be stored overnight save Friday night. It is not
up to you nor anyone else to decide which portion of Gods word to follow,
which to ignore, and what to make up from themselves. Of such substance are
cults derived.
Do you collect if from the ground every morning? Nope
Do you save food from on day to the next? Yes
Do you eat Manna? Nope.
3 strikes and you are out.
carole
Its not so much the wolf whistles from construction workers which is the
problem, but rather in the workplace when men use sexual intimidation
tactics.
Sometimes male employers have asked for sexual favours if a woman wishes to
keep her job.
Its all about equality in the workplace.
carole
www.conspiracee.com
carole
"Peter B" <.@.> wrote in message news:4c77...@news.x-privat.org...
>
> "carole" <hubbc...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:sIIdo.4669$FH2...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...
>>
>> "Peter B" <.@.> wrote in message news:4c77...@news.x-privat.org...
>>>
>>> "carole" <hubbc...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:ZTpdo.4554$Yv....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...
>>>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why all the fuss, you puritanical or something?
>>>>
>>>> If you brought up this kind of talk in an office setting, you would
>>>> face the possibility of sexual harrassment charges.
>>>> Your conversation about vibrators now amounts to sexual harrassment.
>>>> It is inappropriate, unnecessary and potentially can get you taken to
>>>> arbitration or court.
>>>>
>>>
>>> As usual you are incorrect. Especially since you brought the whole thing
>>> up.
>>
>> You bring it into conversations regularly.
>>
>
> Sorry, but you are the one who keeps bringing it up. Not me.
> The last time you did this it ended up speaking about my privates and its
> size, but you think that is ok since there is no such thing as Manism.
>
>
You brought it up in a coversation with Jan trying to intimidate her, like
you've done with me.
Its part of your regular MO.
carole
www.conspiracee.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
> > What is described at Revelation 19:10 is how it would be wrong to fall
> > at the feet of an angel to worship an angel, instead of worshiping the
> > LORD Himself, Who is Jesus.
>
> Revelation 19:10 (English Standard Version)
> 10 Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, "You must
> not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to
> the testimony of Jesus. Worship God." For the testimony of Jesus is the
> spirit of prophecy.
Amen.
Yes, we "must not" fall down at the feet of an angel to worship an
angel instead of worshiping GOD Himself.
"My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
from Jesus
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d6054b28f5096166?
> > GOD has a mind (Father), a heart (Son), and a soul (Holy Spirit) with
> > the love of GOD residing in His heart, Who is our risen LORD Jesus
> > 'Christ' of Nazareth (Romans 8:39). It is the mind of GOD Who knows
> > (Matthew 24:36) the appointed time when His heart will return in the
> > flesh for His disciples to physically recognize (Luke 24:32) Him in
> > order to meet up with Him in the air at the appointed place (Luke
> > 17:37):
>
> Just doing a spot check here. Chung makes a statement and posts a reference
> to back up his theories.
Exegesis of Scripture is not theoretical.
> So I took the liberty of looking up the verses and
> pasting them in here. You see if it makes any sense to you, heathen or
> believer.
This should make sense to those who have been made discerning by the
Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) indwelling within them.
> Romans 8:39 (English Standard Version)
> 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to
> separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Amen.
Yes, the love of GOD resides in the Heart of GOD, Who is Christ Jesus
our LORD.
"My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
from Jesus
> Matthew 24:36 (English Standard Version)
>
> No One Knows That Day and Hour
> 36 "But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of
> heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.
Amen.
Yes, only GOD the Father, Who is the Mind of GOD, knows "that day and
hour" when His Son, Who is the Heart of GOD will return for those of
us who are His disciples, either Jew or gentile:
> Luke 24:32 (English Standard Version)
> 32 They said to each other, "Did not our hearts burn within us while he
> talked to us on the road, while he opened to us the Scriptures?"
Amen.
Yes, it is when our "hearts burn within us", which is our being
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry , that we physically recognize that
our risen LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is really walking and talking
with us though our eyes don't see Him and our ears don't hear him :-)
"My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
from Jesus
> Luke 17:37 (English Standard Version)
> 37 And they said to him, "Where, Lord?" He said to them, "Where the corpse
> is, there the vultures will gather."
Amen.
Yes, Jesus tells us exactly where we need to be to meet-up with Him
when we are taken by Him from this world :-)
> Jesus has already returned and showed his disciples who he is. Luke 24: 32
Incorrect. Followers Cleopas and Simon were kept from recognizing
Jesus (Luke 24:16).
Moreover, these followers were **not** disciples as evident by their
failure to recognize Jesus.
You, Peter B., do not have the counsel of the Holy Spirit.
This is because you have not been born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as evident
by your not being able to publicly (Philippians 2:10-11) say "Jesus is
LORD" (1 Corinthians 12:3) with your mouth (Romans 10:9).
faux-christian Peter B wrote::
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part in the past:
>
> > Actually, Dr. Hildner was replaced by me as he was retired back in 2001
> > after having to settle for several sizeable malpractice awards.
>
> Did Chung really lie?
No. It remains this physician's choice to continue to write truthfully
then and now.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?
faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MU wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> > MU wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
>>> >>> of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
>>> >>> by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating
>>> >>> 32 oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
>>> >>> else who have been doing the same.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
>>> >>> according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yes, the right amount control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much more
>>> >>> sophisticated and smarter:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
>>> >>
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/49a31d5cd1d9c361?
faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.
> >
>
> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as
> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
> persons each of you has in his tent.'"
Amen.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?
> Omer = 3.3 liters.
Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
of the Covenant has since been lost to us.
> Exodus 16:16 (English Standard Version)
>
> 16 This is what the LORD has commanded: 'Gather of it, each one of you, as
> much as he can eat. You shall each take an omer,[a] according to the number
> of the persons that each of you has in his tent.'"
Amen.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a48070f6b6239e0e?
> Footnotes:
> a. Exodus 16:16 An omer was about 2 quarts or 2 liters
The footnote is incorrect simply because it is written that manna is
ready-to-eat-food that has the consistency of "wafers made from
honey" (Exodus 16:31) which would be unlike either a grain or a fluid
so that it stands to reason that an omer of manna is not a volume unit
of manna but rather a weight unit of manna.
> Exodus 16:31 (New American Standard Bible)
>
> 31 The house of Israel named it manna, and it was like coriander seed,
> white, and its taste was like wafers with honey.
>
> There is the verse for you. Manna is the food. Omer is the weight.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f169b569b1a5b9fa?
Yes, an omer of manna is a weight measure of manna unlike either quart
or liter, which are volume measures.
Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
else who have been doing the same.
An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
Holding to an omer of food per day is right amount control:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d740c3a4191d3e1b?
Yes, the right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Peter B
>
> "Peter B" <.@.> wrote in message news:4c77...@news.x-privat.org...
>>
>> "carole" <hubbc...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:sIIdo.4669$FH2...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...
>>>
>>> "Peter B" <.@.> wrote in message news:4c77...@news.x-privat.org...
>>>>
>>>> "carole" <hubbc...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:ZTpdo.4554$Yv....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why all the fuss, you puritanical or something?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you brought up this kind of talk in an office setting, you would
>>>>> face the possibility of sexual harrassment charges.
>>>>> Your conversation about vibrators now amounts to sexual harrassment.
>>>>> It is inappropriate, unnecessary and potentially can get you taken to
>>>>> arbitration or court.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As usual you are incorrect. Especially since you brought the whole
>>>> thing up.
>>>
>>> You bring it into conversations regularly.
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, but you are the one who keeps bringing it up. Not me.
>> The last time you did this it ended up speaking about my privates and its
>> size, but you think that is ok since there is no such thing as Manism.
>>
>>
>
> You brought it up in a coversation with Jan trying to intimidate her, like
> you've done with me.
> Its part of your regular MO.
>
> carole
> www.conspiracee.com
>
Wrong, you are blameshifting. It rests on your shoulders. She does the same
thing.
I posted it and you two can never let it go from your twisted sick minds. It
wasn't dirty or nasty, or even porn except perhaps in your minds. Not my
problem.
Peter B
You would never know. It is all hearsay and conjecture. Why pretend
otherwise?
Peter B
> faux-christian Peter B wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>
>> > What is described at Revelation 19:10 is how it would be wrong to fall
>> > at the feet of an angel to worship an angel, instead of worshiping the
>> > LORD Himself, Who is Jesus.
>>
>> Revelation 19:10 (English Standard Version)
>> 10 Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, "You
>> must
>> not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to
>> the testimony of Jesus. Worship God." For the testimony of Jesus is the
>> spirit of prophecy.
>
> Amen.
>
> Yes, we "must not" fall down at the feet of an angel to worship an
> angel instead of worshiping GOD Himself.
>
> "My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
> from Jesus
>
> Source:
>
Full verse, in context please.
>
>> > GOD has a mind (Father), a heart (Son), and a soul (Holy Spirit) with
>> > the love of GOD residing in His heart, Who is our risen LORD Jesus
>> > 'Christ' of Nazareth (Romans 8:39). It is the mind of GOD Who knows
>> > (Matthew 24:36) the appointed time when His heart will return in the
>> > flesh for His disciples to physically recognize (Luke 24:32) Him in
>> > order to meet up with Him in the air at the appointed place (Luke
>> > 17:37):
You are in total error here. You have no scripture to back it up.
>>
>> Just doing a spot check here. Chung makes a statement and posts a
>> reference
>> to back up his theories.
>
> Exegesis of Scripture is not theoretical.
>
Yours is heretical.
>> So I took the liberty of looking up the verses and
>> pasting them in here. You see if it makes any sense to you, heathen or
>> believer.
>
> This should make sense to those who have been made discerning by the
> Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) indwelling within them.
>
Scripture please, not trodden down with your thoughts.
>> Romans 8:39 (English Standard Version)
>> 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able
>> to
>> separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
>
> Amen.
>
> Yes, the love of GOD resides in the Heart of GOD, Who is Christ Jesus
> our LORD.
>
> "My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
> from Jesus
>
Your point alludes everyone. Incomplete scripture and more than likely out
of context.
>> Matthew 24:36 (English Standard Version)
>>
>> No One Knows That Day and Hour
>> 36 "But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels
>> of
>> heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.
>
> Amen.
>
> Yes, only GOD the Father, Who is the Mind of GOD, knows "that day and
> hour" when His Son, Who is the Heart of GOD will return for those of
> us who are His disciples, either Jew or gentile:
>
Again you are blatantly incorrect. You are without sound base.
You are not an appointed disciple and especially not an apostle like the
original 12+1, nor any subsequent apostle.
>> Luke 24:32 (English Standard Version)
>> 32 They said to each other, "Did not our hearts burn within us while he
>> talked to us on the road, while he opened to us the Scriptures?"
>
> Amen.
>
> Yes, it is when our "hearts burn within us", which is our being
> http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry , that we physically recognize that
> our risen LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is really walking and talking
> with us though our eyes don't see Him and our ears don't hear him :-)
>
My ears have heard him.
> "My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
> from Jesus
>
Why should there be a rebuke from the Lord?
>> Luke 17:37 (English Standard Version)
>> 37 And they said to him, "Where, Lord?" He said to them, "Where the
>> corpse
>> is, there the vultures will gather."
>
> Amen.
>
> Yes, Jesus tells us exactly where we need to be to meet-up with Him
> when we are taken by Him from this world :-)
>
Wrong. There is not scripture to support that. Fact is that is as about
ridiculous as anything I heard. That would be tantamount to having people
buried in a place chosen by God, and all the body parts have to be there as
well. Then there is the problem of deterioration. The body may have already
turned to dust. What then is your god going to do? eh? The God of the Bible
has it all under control and will resurrect the dead in Christ first. then
those believers that are alive.
>> Jesus has already returned and showed his disciples who he is. Luke 24:
>> 32
>
> Incorrect. Followers Cleopas and Simon were kept from recognizing
> Jesus (Luke 24:16).
>
> Moreover, these followers were **not** disciples as evident by their
> failure to recognize Jesus.
>
Luke 24:31-
31 And their eyes were opened, and they recognized him. And he vanished from
their sight. 32 They said to each other, "Did not our hearts burn within us
while he talked to us on the road, while he opened to us the Scriptures?"
Hmmm. guess it is pretty obvious to all that you hunt and pick stuff to suit
your mind, just like Lucifer does. Had you read a little further you would
have seen this and well as all the understanding in between.
You would do well to drop any pretense of being a Christian or get your
heart right before God.
> You, Peter B., do not have the counsel of the Holy Spirit.
>
Guess what, If you should die tonight were you would be. False teachers have
one of the worst seats in the housing of the Lake of Fire and Brimstone. The
Lord be my Judge.
> faux-christian Peter B wrote::
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part in the past:
>>
>> > Actually, Dr. Hildner was replaced by me as he was retired back in 2001
>> > after having to settle for several sizeable malpractice awards.
>>
>> Did Chung really lie?
>
> No. It remains this physician's choice to continue to write truthfully
> then and now.
>
You are supposed to tell the truth consistently, not now and again.
You can try and restructure the past with lies but it will fail. Fact is,
you have already failed. A possible lawsuit hanging over your head each time
you stretch a lie. Dr. Hildner has not withdrawn his statement to you.
Here you are a cardiac doctor by training, with a problem you were never
trained for......a black heart.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
> > What is described at Revelation 19:10 is how it would be wrong to fall
> > at the feet of an angel to worship an angel, instead of worshiping the
> > LORD Himself, Who is Jesus.
>
> Revelation 19:10 (English Standard Version)
> 10 Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, "You must
> not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to
> the testimony of Jesus. Worship God." For the testimony of Jesus is the
> spirit of prophecy.
Amen.
Yes, we "must not" fall down at the feet of an angel to worship an
angel instead of worshiping GOD Himself.
"My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
from Jesus
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d6054b28f5096166?
> > GOD has a mind (Father), a heart (Son), and a soul (Holy Spirit) with
> > the love of GOD residing in His heart, Who is our risen LORD Jesus
> > 'Christ' of Nazareth (Romans 8:39). It is the mind of GOD Who knows
> > (Matthew 24:36) the appointed time when His heart will return in the
> > flesh for His disciples to physically recognize (Luke 24:32) Him in
> > order to meet up with Him in the air at the appointed place (Luke
> > 17:37):
>
> Just doing a spot check here. Chung makes a statement and posts a reference
> to back up his theories.
Exegesis of Scripture is not theoretical.
> So I took the liberty of looking up the verses and
> pasting them in here. You see if it makes any sense to you, heathen or
> believer.
This should make sense to those who have been made discerning by the
Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) indwelling within them.
> Romans 8:39 (English Standard Version)
> 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to
> separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Amen.
Yes, the love of GOD resides in the Heart of GOD, Who is Christ Jesus
our LORD.
"My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
from Jesus
> Matthew 24:36 (English Standard Version)
>
> No One Knows That Day and Hour
> 36 "But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of
> heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.
Amen.
Yes, only GOD the Father, Who is the Mind of GOD, knows "that day and
hour" when His Son, Who is the Heart of GOD will return for those of
us who are His disciples, either Jew or gentile:
> Luke 24:32 (English Standard Version)
> 32 They said to each other, "Did not our hearts burn within us while he
> talked to us on the road, while he opened to us the Scriptures?"
Amen.
Yes, it is when our "hearts burn within us", which is our being
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry , that we physically recognize that
our risen LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is really walking and talking
with us though our eyes don't see Him and our ears don't hear him :-)
"My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
from Jesus
> Luke 17:37 (English Standard Version)
> 37 And they said to him, "Where, Lord?" He said to them, "Where the corpse
> is, there the vultures will gather."
Amen.
Yes, Jesus tells us exactly where we need to be to meet-up with Him
when we are taken by Him from this world :-)
> Jesus has already returned and showed his disciples who he is. Luke 24: 32
Incorrect. Followers Cleopas and Simon were kept from recognizing
Jesus (Luke 24:16).
Moreover, these followers were **not** disciples as evident by their
failure to recognize Jesus.
You, Peter B., do not have the counsel of the Holy Spirit.
This is because you have not been born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as evident
by your not being able to publicly (Philippians 2:10-11) say "Jesus is
LORD" (1 Corinthians 12:3) with your mouth (Romans 10:9).
faux-christian Peter B wrote::
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part in the past:
>
> > Actually, Dr. Hildner was replaced by me as he was retired back in 2001
> > after having to settle for several sizeable malpractice awards.
>
> Did Chung really lie?
No. It remains this physician's choice to continue to write truthfully
then and now.
Source:
Peter B
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>wrote in message
news:f0a454f6-a693-4cda...@q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> faux-christian Peter B wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>
>> > What is described at Revelation 19:10 is how it would be wrong to fall
>> > at the feet of an angel to worship an angel, instead of worshiping the
>> > LORD Himself, Who is Jesus.
>>
>> Revelation 19:10 (English Standard Version)
>> 10 Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, "You
>> must
>> not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to
>> the testimony of Jesus. Worship God." For the testimony of Jesus is the
>> spirit of prophecy.
>
> Amen.
>
> Yes, we "must not" fall down at the feet of an angel to worship an
> angel instead of worshiping GOD Himself.
>
> "My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
> from Jesus
>
> Source:
>
Full verse, in context please.
>
>> > GOD has a mind (Father), a heart (Son), and a soul (Holy Spirit) with
>> > the love of GOD residing in His heart, Who is our risen LORD Jesus
>> > 'Christ' of Nazareth (Romans 8:39). It is the mind of GOD Who knows
>> > (Matthew 24:36) the appointed time when His heart will return in the
>> > flesh for His disciples to physically recognize (Luke 24:32) Him in
>> > order to meet up with Him in the air at the appointed place (Luke
>> > 17:37):
You are in total error here. You have no scripture to back it up.
>>
>> Just doing a spot check here. Chung makes a statement and posts a
>> reference
>> to back up his theories.
>
> Exegesis of Scripture is not theoretical.
>
Yours is heretical.
>> So I took the liberty of looking up the verses and
>> pasting them in here. You see if it makes any sense to you, heathen or
>> believer.
>
> This should make sense to those who have been made discerning by the
> Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) indwelling within them.
>
Scripture please, not trodden down with your thoughts.
>> Romans 8:39 (English Standard Version)
>> 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able
>> to
>> separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
>
> Amen.
>
> Yes, the love of GOD resides in the Heart of GOD, Who is Christ Jesus
> our LORD.
>
> "My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
> from Jesus
>
Your point alludes everyone. Incomplete scripture and more than likely out
of context.
>> Matthew 24:36 (English Standard Version)
>>
>> No One Knows That Day and Hour
>> 36 "But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels
>> of
>> heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.
>
> Amen.
>
> Yes, only GOD the Father, Who is the Mind of GOD, knows "that day and
> hour" when His Son, Who is the Heart of GOD will return for those of
> us who are His disciples, either Jew or gentile:
>
Again you are blatantly incorrect. You are without sound base.
You are not an appointed disciple and especially not an apostle like the
original 12+1, nor any subsequent apostle.
>> Luke 24:32 (English Standard Version)
>> 32 They said to each other, "Did not our hearts burn within us while he
>> talked to us on the road, while he opened to us the Scriptures?"
>
> Amen.
>
> Yes, it is when our "hearts burn within us", which is our being
> http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry , that we physically recognize that
> our risen LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is really walking and talking
> with us though our eyes don't see Him and our ears don't hear him :-)
>
My ears have heard him.
> "My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
> from Jesus
>
Why should there be a rebuke from the Lord?
>> Luke 17:37 (English Standard Version)
>> 37 And they said to him, "Where, Lord?" He said to them, "Where the
>> corpse
>> is, there the vultures will gather."
>
> Amen.
>
> Yes, Jesus tells us exactly where we need to be to meet-up with Him
> when we are taken by Him from this world :-)
>
Wrong. There is not scripture to support that. Fact is that is as about
ridiculous as anything I heard. That would be tantamount to having people
buried in a place chosen by God, and all the body parts have to be there as
well. Then there is the problem of deterioration. The body may have already
turned to dust. What then is your god going to do? eh? The God of the Bible
has it all under control and will resurrect the dead in Christ first. then
those believers that are alive.
>> Jesus has already returned and showed his disciples who he is. Luke 24:
>> 32
>
> Incorrect. Followers Cleopas and Simon were kept from recognizing
> Jesus (Luke 24:16).
>
> Moreover, these followers were **not** disciples as evident by their
> failure to recognize Jesus.
>
Luke 24:31-
31 And their eyes were opened, and they recognized him. And he vanished from
their sight. 32 They said to each other, "Did not our hearts burn within us
while he talked to us on the road, while he opened to us the Scriptures?"
Hmmm. guess it is pretty obvious to all that you hunt and pick stuff to suit
your mind, just like Lucifer does. Had you read a little further you would
have seen this and well as all the understanding in between.
You would do well to drop any pretense of being a Christian or get your
heart right before God.
> You, Peter B., do not have the counsel of the Holy Spirit.
>
Guess what, If you should die tonight were you would be. False teachers have
one of the worst seats in the housing of the Lake of Fire and Brimstone. The
Lord be my Judge.
> faux-christian Peter B wrote::
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part in the past:
>>
>> > Actually, Dr. Hildner was replaced by me as he was retired back in 2001
>> > after having to settle for several sizeable malpractice awards.
>>
>> Did Chung really lie?
>
> No. It remains this physician's choice to continue to write truthfully
> then and now.
>
You are supposed to tell the truth consistently, not now and again.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
> > What is described at Revelation 19:10 is how it would be wrong to fall
> > at the feet of an angel to worship an angel, instead of worshiping the
> > LORD Himself, Who is Jesus.
>
> Revelation 19:10 (English Standard Version)
> 10 Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, "You must
> not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to
> the testimony of Jesus. Worship God." For the testimony of Jesus is the
> spirit of prophecy.
Amen.
Yes, we "must not" fall down at the feet of an angel to worship an
angel instead of worshiping GOD Himself.
"My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
from Jesus
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d6054b28f5096166?
> > GOD has a mind (Father), a heart (Son), and a soul (Holy Spirit) with
> > the love of GOD residing in His heart, Who is our risen LORD Jesus
> > 'Christ' of Nazareth (Romans 8:39). It is the mind of GOD Who knows
> > (Matthew 24:36) the appointed time when His heart will return in the
> > flesh for His disciples to physically recognize (Luke 24:32) Him in
> > order to meet up with Him in the air at the appointed place (Luke
> > 17:37):
>
> Just doing a spot check here. Chung makes a statement and posts a reference
> to back up his theories.
Exegesis of Scripture is not theoretical.
> So I took the liberty of looking up the verses and
> pasting them in here. You see if it makes any sense to you, heathen or
> believer.
This should make sense to those who have been made discerning by the
Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) indwelling within them.
> Romans 8:39 (English Standard Version)
> 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to
> separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Amen.
Yes, the love of GOD resides in the Heart of GOD, Who is Christ Jesus
our LORD.
"My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
from Jesus
> Matthew 24:36 (English Standard Version)
>
> No One Knows That Day and Hour
> 36 "But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of
> heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.
Amen.
Yes, only GOD the Father, Who is the Mind of GOD, knows "that day and
hour" when His Son, Who is the Heart of GOD will return for those of
us who are His disciples, either Jew or gentile:
> Luke 24:32 (English Standard Version)
> 32 They said to each other, "Did not our hearts burn within us while he
> talked to us on the road, while he opened to us the Scriptures?"
Amen.
Yes, it is when our "hearts burn within us", which is our being
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry , that we physically recognize that
our risen LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is really walking and talking
with us though our eyes don't see Him and our ears don't hear him :-)
"My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
from Jesus
> Luke 17:37 (English Standard Version)
> 37 And they said to him, "Where, Lord?" He said to them, "Where the corpse
> is, there the vultures will gather."
Amen.
Yes, Jesus tells us exactly where we need to be to meet-up with Him
when we are taken by Him from this world :-)
> Jesus has already returned and showed his disciples who he is. Luke 24: 32
Incorrect. Followers Cleopas and Simon were kept from recognizing
Jesus (Luke 24:16).
Moreover, these followers were **not** disciples as evident by their
failure to recognize Jesus.
You, Peter B., do not have the counsel of the Holy Spirit.
This is because you have not been born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as evident
by your not being able to publicly (Philippians 2:10-11) say "Jesus is
LORD" (1 Corinthians 12:3) with your mouth (Romans 10:9).
faux-christian Peter B wrote::
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part in the past:
>
> > Actually, Dr. Hildner was replaced by me as he was retired back in 2001
> > after having to settle for several sizeable malpractice awards.
>
> Did Chung really lie?
No. It remains this physician's choice to continue to write truthfully
then and now.
Source:
Jason
<hubbc...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
I don't blame women for suing men that asked for sexual favors if a woman
wishes to keep her job. Some large companies have sexual harrassment
classes that teach employees to not engage in sexual harrassment. Do you
think that is a good thing?
Ken
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results. Albert Einstein ...
Ken
Mick Jaggoff
Good. Give your doctor the address to this newsgroup, and have him
contact the AMA.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
> different results"
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/77109afdfa9455f5?
... and ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd4a3310cdc6e165?
Actually, insanity is simply a condition of being disconnected from
reality falsely thinking fiction is truth thereby suffering from
delusions.
For example, your quoting Albert Einstein's fictional definition of
insanity multiple times and applying it as if it were true serves well
as evidence that you really are becoming insane.
Ken wrote earlier in part:
>
> Schizophrenia can set in at any time but it's usual shows up in early
> adulthood.
>
> I'm predisposed due to my biological maw spending her adult life in a
> hospital as a paranoid schizophrenic before passing in '66
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/40a1fbe0d8ff812a?
Only the truth, Who is Jesus, can keep you from becoming more
delusional like your mom was.
There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
psychopathology:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3f56b038f17f681b?
Bottom line concerning you, Ken:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e444a7f27fc8ae79?
Truth is reality ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/459c9c0ed3b24ca2?
... despite your efforts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3160f9fd903ab7c2?
And, so this bona-fide physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) freely
chooses to continue to pray for you as outlined per the amazing
Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation earlier:
May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, Ken, a new heart and a
new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born
again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by Him so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Jason
<fd7a539f-e1f7-4f1b...@l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Mick
Jaggoff <belly...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I will use the time with the doctor to ask questions about my heart
problems. It's my guess that my cardiologist has more important issues to
deal with than what happens in newsgroups. I have noticed that very few
doctors visit newsgroups. It would be great if thousands of doctors
subscribed to various medical newsgroups.
Clarence Crow
<flak...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Not to mention suffering from an Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
I have Chung killfiled.
Why do you have to bring his name back into the group causing loss of
bandwidth?
Regards CC
reply to ng as email is fake
carole
Yes, men shouldn't sexually harrass women.
Its not nice.
carole
www.conspiracee.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> a sockpuppet wrote:
> > Jason wrote:
>
> > > Good news. I will be going to see a local cardiologist the last day of
> > > this month. Thanks to Dr. Chung and the other people that responded to my
> > > post.
> > > Thanks again,
> > > jason
Again, Laus Deo :-)
> > Good.
Only GOD is good (Matthew 19:17).
> > Give your doctor the address to this newsgroup, and have him
> > contact the AMA.
The AMA does not have the power to stop that which is GOD's will.
> I will use the time with the doctor to ask questions about my heart
> problems. It's my guess that my cardiologist has more important issues to
> deal with than what happens in newsgroups. I have noticed that very few
> doctors visit newsgroups. It would be great if thousands of doctors
> subscribed to various medical newsgroups.
Few doctors have the full armor of GOD (Ephesians 6:13-18) to protect
them from goes on here.
Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth
May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by giving them a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the Truth,
Chris Malcolm
They used to in the early pre-AOL days. Then their patients got
newsgroup access and chased them off.
--
Chris Malcolm
Jason
"carole" <hubbc...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
carole,
I agree--sue them if they do it.
Jason
<c...@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
I did not know that--thanks for the information.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Chris Malcolm wrote:
> >
> > > I will use the time with the doctor to ask questions about my heart
> > > problems. It's my guess that my cardiologist has more important issues to
> > > deal with than what happens in newsgroups. I have noticed that very few
> > > doctors visit newsgroups. It would be great if thousands of doctors
> > > subscribed to various medical newsgroups.
> >
> > They used to in the early pre-AOL days. Then their patients got
> > newsgroup access and chased them off.
>
> I did not know that
Lurkers don't really chase anyone away from Usenet participation.
Instead, it is the bad behavior of the perishing like Peter B., Ken,
GSI et al that chases people away.
Peter B
> Jason wrote:
>> Chris Malcolm wrote:
>> >
>> > > I will use the time with the doctor to ask questions about my heart
>> > > problems. It's my guess that my cardiologist has more important
>> > > issues to
>> > > deal with than what happens in newsgroups. I have noticed that very
>> > > few
>> > > doctors visit newsgroups. It would be great if thousands of doctors
>> > > subscribed to various medical newsgroups.
>> >
>> > They used to in the early pre-AOL days. Then their patients got
>> > newsgroup access and chased them off.
>>
>> I did not know that
>
> Lurkers don't really chase anyone away from Usenet participation.
>
> Instead, it is the bad behavior of the perishing like Peter B., Ken,
> GSI et al that chases people away.
>
I am in good health.
So you say that people who tell and or post the truth is bad behavior?
You who chops out verses from the Bible when it does not suit you?
You who lies about others?
You who tried to get Stephan in trouble with the law and lost?
You who has had a lifetime career of failures?
Naw, it is people like you.
You cannot even follow the T.O.S. at Facebook without breaking it. Multpiple
sites and all.
Joseph H.
> Jason wrote:
>> Chris Malcolm wrote:
>>>
>>>> I will use the time with the doctor to ask questions about my heart
>>>> problems. It's my guess that my cardiologist has more important issues to
>>>> deal with than what happens in newsgroups. I have noticed that very few
>>>> doctors visit newsgroups. It would be great if thousands of doctors
>>>> subscribed to various medical newsgroups.
>>>
>>> They used to in the early pre-AOL days. Then their patients got
>>> newsgroup access and chased them off.
>>
>> I did not know that
>
> Lurkers don't really chase anyone away from Usenet participation.
>
> Instead, it is the bad behavior of the perishing like Peter B., Ken,
> GSI et al that chases people away.
*You*, Chung, is the reason this ng is a joke. You destroyed it
singlehandedly.
Peter B., Ken, GSI and others monitor sci.med.cardiology to minimize the
damages you could cause to people's health. You're a dangerous "doctor",
Chung.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Jason wrote:
> >> Chris Malcolm wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I will use the time with the doctor to ask questions about my heart
> >> > > problems. It's my guess that my cardiologist has more important
> >> > > issues to
> >> > > deal with than what happens in newsgroups. I have noticed that very
> >> > > few
> >> > > doctors visit newsgroups. It would be great if thousands of doctors
> >> > > subscribed to various medical newsgroups.
> >> >
> >> > They used to in the early pre-AOL days. Then their patients got
> >> > newsgroup access and chased them off.
> >>
> >> I did not know that
> >
> > Lurkers don't really chase anyone away from Usenet participation.
> >
> > Instead, it is the bad behavior of the perishing like Peter B., Ken,
> > GSI et al that chases people away.
>
> I am in good health.
Folks in good health do not exhibit bad behavior.
faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>28. Why did Dr. Chung leave Ocala, Florida?
> >> >>-------------------------------------
> >> >>Dr. Chung's contract at the Central Florida Heart Center was
> >> >>terminated *for cause* after less than four months of
> >> >>employment.
> >> >>
> >> >>29. What does "for cause" mean?
> >> >
> >> > Source of question:
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/999756db0faad96c?
> >> >
> >> > "You lost your job because you talked yourself out of it." -- retired
> >> > physician, Dr. Hildner, who was replaced by Dr. Chung
Source of quote:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/dda6f140e862c223?
Proof of Dr. Hildner's retired status:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?
> >> For just cause you were eliminated.
> >
> > If it were just cause, Dr. Hildner would not have written "you lost
> > your job because you talked yourself out of it."
>
> Wrong
It remains an experience shared by all that when there is just cause
for action that such just cause is invariably publicized from the
outset. For example, the unprovoked Iraqi invasion of Kuwait was
publicized from the outset as just cause for U.S. Operation Desert
Storm against Iraq:
http://www.free-essays.us/dbase/c6/dkt127.shtml
Truth is simple :-)
It remains wise to tell patients the truth instead of harming them
with lies:
Primum non nocere
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/49a31d5cd1d9c361?
Amen.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?
> Omer = 3.3 liters.
Amen.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a48070f6b6239e0e?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f169b569b1a5b9fa?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d740c3a4191d3e1b?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/443f61cdd0473b11?
2 Peter 2:22
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ad3ab8bf96435b6?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/abf1b9d597143cff?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ of
Nazareth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/63d9553d4c7b8f7b?
Ken
> On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:10:56 -0700 (PDT), Ken
>
> >Not to mention suffering from an Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
>
> I have Chung killfiled.
>
> Why do you have to bring his name back into the group causing loss of
> bandwidth?
>
> Regards CC
> reply to ng as email is fake
'cause I like screwing with this insane QUACK
Peter B
No doubt Andy will answer this with his packet of lies and half truths.
mas.arifin
Jan Drew
> I have renal artery stenosis and stage 1 (least serious stage) of left
> ventricular diastolic dysfunction. I have also have paroxysmal dyspnea.
> How long do people that have the above disorders usually live?
Death rates are about 3 times higher than for folks without vascular
disease.
> On a typical day, I have very littly energy.
> My weight is normal
> My age is 59
> My sister died at the age of 62 of a stroke and heart disease runs in my
> family.
> My sister was a smoker and I am not a smoker.
> I exercise (including riding an exercise bike 2 miles per day) 6 days per week.
> I eat a low fat diet.
You need to lose all your visceral adipose tissue (VAT) in hopes of
being cured of your vascular disease.
> Thanks in advance,
> jason
Laus Deo for your thanks :-)
> It appears that several medical newsgroup have been taken over by spammers.
It does keep the religious people away :-)
Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=146776...
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=146776...
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=146776...
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=146776...
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=146776...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth
May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by giving them a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the Truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Joseph H.
"Jan Drew" : Chung's own insane sockpuppet.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Nobody will ever get your imaginary money, fraudulent twerp.
> >>>
> >>> Folks would not be upset here if the money were imaginary.
> >>
> >> Some authorities would be, fraud :
> >>
> >> http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Laws/Georgia
> >
> > And yet they're not therefore the money is real.
>
> No, liar ...
It remains this physician's personal choice to continue writing
truthfully.
> ... it's because they don't know about your little scam.
If that were true, then it would be the authorities that are imaginary
and not the money. Truth is simple :-)
Moreover, all, including the authorities, are starting to realize that
**possibly** in time as the 7-figure guarantee increases, doubling
every few years and possibly becoming even 8-figures, governments
struggling with increasing healthcare costs would take notice and make
the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach a matter of public health
policy:
This would not be possible without GOD's help (Matthew 19:26) and
providence of information that there is indeed one right daily amount
(omer) for all walks of life (Exodus 16:16). All glory to GOD the
Father and our risen LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth :-)
a sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > trigonometry wrote:
> >>
> >> Was it the sunflower seeds and the couple of pieces
> >> of fruit that raised the FBG? On the other hand,
> >> my blood pressure, seems to be ideal today at
> >> the last reading being 117/75 at pulse of 66.
> >> Anyway, the 128 FBG on Monday and
> >> 120 on Tueday did not make me happy.
> >> Today it was 108?
> >>
> >> I am going to clamp down on myself. And get back
> >> to actually measuring the weights of certain foods
> >> that I consume.
> >
> > Why not do as Chris Malcolm is doing and simply weigh the entire meal?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
> Is that "Chris Malcolm" a candidate for your 2,000,000 $ giveaway?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f62cabae7e723e?
Perhaps Chris Malcolm would be eligible in a few months if he were to
eat more than 10 lbs of food daily possibly gaining 90 lbs to receive
the diagnosis of obesity especially if he starts needing insulin to
regulate his blood glucose.
However, we know that if he were to then go back to holding to the
right amount (32 oz) of daily food then he would be cured of his
obesity and the $2,000,000.00 guarantee would remain in force as it
has for years now :-) Truth is simple :-)
a sockpuppet wrote:
> So, Chung, what about telling us the name and address of the bank where
> the money ($2,000,000.00) is held on escrow, so that we could verify
> that it really exists ?
This information has been and continues to be disclosed by others to
those who truly have a need to know. If you were among those who truly
have a need to know, you would have already known this :-)
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cb63d8fe96d5da2c?
a sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> obie wrote:
>>> lil abner
>>>> pp wrote:
>>>
>>>>> For most type 2's diabetes is a disease of gluttony.
>>>>> Too much fat, too little exercise, too much rich food and not
>>>>> the least eating too many animals thereby contributing to the
>>>>> suffering of billions. For T2s it's their payback, their bad
>>>>> karma. God has a way of paying people back and our species is
>>>>> in for a big fall.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nuf said.
>>>>
>>>> You must be physic or loony one.
>>>> I am over weight now. That is one thing Insulin does for me.
>>>> The cause was Agent Orange. It was not something made up.
>>>> how dare you come on this ng and insult Diabetics.
>>>> I assure you they don't want to be that way.
>>>> Perhaps, some of us, if we lived frugaly and hard like our Grand Prents
>>>> and before we might not have Diabetes. But that is only conjecture.
>>>> people had Diabetes many ages before it was called Diabetes.
>>>> Some of my native American Ancestors had Diabetes. I assure you they
>>>> weren't "fat" and didn't sit in a recliner watching tv all day.
>>>> So blow it out your ---.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The truth hurts.
>>>
>>> How frequently do you see a thin, athletic type that has Type
>>> 2, almost never, especially if they are vegans or
>>> vegetarians.
>>>
>>> Well known fact that concentration camp prisoners never had
>>> diabetes, least not T2.
>>
>> They were kept from eating in excess.
>
> What an odious little "man" you are, Chung.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ce840a1be3bea53e?
This physician is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while being
villified for writing truthfully (Matthew 5:10).
prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
"Doc, my right *ball* has swollen to about 8.25cm (3 1/4"), perhaps a
little more? It's about the size around as the top of a coffee mug.
Ok Doc, what do you think? Oh it grew from normal to this size in
about, maybe 3 days, perhaps less?
I told the ER Doc it was about the size of a Volley Ball during our
pre exam talk. When he pulled back the sheet to have a look the first
word out of his mouth wasn't Jesus, it was *WOW*! One other thing, his
name is Kim, and he is oriental." -- Prodigal Jimmy Alpha
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f8253d58852b1f4e?
For an ER Doc to be taken by surprise by a swollen testicle the size
of a "Volley Ball" under a bed sheet means that you are morbidly obese
so that the protuberance of your abdomen dwarfs everything else.
Your being morbidly obese would also be consistent with your history
of bilateral quadriceps rupture:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5b1b0839f48b487c?
"Bilateral quadriceps rupture is a rare injury that is often secondary
to predisposing medical conditions."
Source:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2767147/?tool=pubmed
Yes, morbid obesity would be that serious medical condition that would
predispose you to the bilateral quadriceps rupture that you have
suffered.
It is now no wonder why you are reacting so adversely to GOD's 2PD-
OMER Approach (Exodus 16:16)...
... the Holy Spirit convicts you about your overeating (John 5:14):
prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) is the only way (Mt16:28,
>>>> Mk9:1, Lk9:27& Jn8:51) to immortality while here on Earth.
>>>
>>> sightwalker, nothing to do with diet or approach making you a lier.
>>
>> Not for the discerning who have read the Bible.
>>
>> Exodus 16:16 is GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach as prescribed in His written
>> word.
>
>This is not in the post I replied to, making you a liar.
Not for the discerning who have read your post:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/84c2b918221d8cb5?
>> Mt16:28, Mk9:1, Lk9:27& Jn8:51 are about immortality for those who
>> keep His written word with the first command to Adam&Eve to not eat
>> more than they need.
>
> Not the subject of post I replied to, making you a liar.
Not for the discerning who have read the subject line of the post you
replied to:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43da3ce173361752?
prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> a neighbor wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-08-14/obesity-link-to-diabetes-found-in-white-blood-cells-study-says.html
>>> Aug. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Immune-system cells that cause inflammation in
>>> fat tissue may explain why Type 2 diabetes mostly occurs in people who
>>> are overweight, Australian researchers said.
>>
>> The only known safe cure for obesity is the miraculous $2,000,000.00
>> http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach first prescribed by GOD (Exodus
>> 16:16).
>
> That's not been shown true as the *only* "known safe cure for obesity"!
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f4a72ff8e2bd693d?
Actually, it is easily shown to be the only known safe cure for
obesity by the following proof...
Null hypothesis:
The 2PD-OMER Approach is not the only known safe cure for obesity.
Prediction based on the null hypothesis:
Detractors such as prodigal Jimmy Alpha would have listed other known
safe cures for obesity.
Actual observation:
Detractors such as prodigal Jimmy Alpha have not been able to list
other known safe cures for obesity.
Conclusion:
Reject the null hypothesis and conclude that GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach
(Exodus 16:16) is the only known safe cure for obesity.
prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
> > Carole wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >>> It remains smarter to eat the right amount (32 oz) of food per day:
> >>>
> >>> http://WDJW.net/BeSmart
> >>
> >> As I said before and never got any reply.
> >>
> >> If the lo-cal diet was so good, then the people in the third world would be
> >> really healthy.
> >
> > The http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach is http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
> >
> >> If your theory is correct, how come they don't live longer and healthier
> >> lives?
> >
> > They are eating less than the right amount (32 oz) of food per day.
> >
> > Truth is simple.
>
> Charlie, how do we know this, because you say so?
We, who are smart, have learned the math that zero ounces is less than
thirty-two ounces.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4c8e72eca845c102?
Again, would continue to gently suggest that you, Jimmy, stop lying
before you possibly suffer a psychotic break from reality (i.e. lose
your mind):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/013d97011bed20f3?
Yes, you know you have been lying:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/363c44ee711557eb?
Yes, you, Jimmy, are prodigal http://WDJW.net/LostSheep
May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is
right(Je9:24), Jimmy, so that you would be able to guard your
deceitful heart(Je17:9) which is causing you to physically perish as
you continue to sin by lying.
Amen.
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat….but
not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few things,
as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the truth,
Sest la Vone
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