Daily WDJW Health Tip for 03/22/11

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mar 22, 2011, 6:02:57 AM3/22/11

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It's when we're really strong (Ephesians 6:10-11) that we become
healthier (hungrier --> http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier ) than
ever:

http://WDJW.net/HealthTip

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth

May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by giving them a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the Truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

Zoom

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Mar 22, 2011, 6:15:33 AM3/22/11

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Mr. Chung wrote:
>
> <snip 1,834 words of gobbledygook>
>
> read more »
>
> > A discerning individual wrote:
>
> >> Good grief, there's MORE?! LOL!
>
> I, Mr. Chung, am a false Christian with a perishing soul, pitching a flop diet...
<snip 2,126 more words of Mr. Chung's self-serving gobbledygook>

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3410fff9e0c2ad46?hl=en

At last, an honest response from Mr. Chung :-)

Zip

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Mar 22, 2011, 6:24:44 AM3/22/11

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Mr. Chung's 2 lb diet nonsense is based on the
documentary "Everest" in which the high altitude climbers (several of
whom died) ate dehydrated food, from which Mr. Chung pulled the
calculation of 2 lbs per day out of his butt. Then he decided to turn
that nonsense into a nonexistent "Biblical revelation".

Ace

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Mar 22, 2011, 6:51:08 AM3/22/11

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You know Andrew, you've ticked a lot of people off over the years. But
not me. There are a lot of men calling themselves Christians who talk
about Jesus and quote Scripture on TV and in best selling books, who
are as false and spurious as they come. Compared to them, you're just
too small of a potato to get me railed. But you're sure enough fun to
tease. You try to tease me back, (like you did and then retracted)
you're the same as me. You get your self-righteous feathers in a
ruffle, you're zinged. This is all just a joke to me and so are you.
Be sure to add this to your lame craven auto-bot retort ramble (which
I persuaded you to trim and edit) How is it that I have so much
persuasion over you, oh discerning dingbat? :-)

A*

Terrapin

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Mar 22, 2011, 7:03:27 AM3/22/11

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"Ace" <avlvsv...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> you're just too small of a potato to get me railed.

Anyone using newsgroups as their forum is as small potato as you get. I
mean, who's actually reading them anymore? Chung has lost all sense of
reality.

Ace

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Mar 22, 2011, 7:15:04 AM3/22/11

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On Mar 22, 4:03 am, "Terrapin" <w...@slow.com> wrote:
> "Ace" <avlvsvery...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

A mighty sad option for a PhD eh? Oh well, at least he has his
Facebook page LOL!

A*

Ken

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Mar 22, 2011, 11:38:29 AM3/22/11

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On Mar 22, 4:03 am, "Terrapin" <w...@slow.com> wrote:

> "Ace" <avlvsvery...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Did he EVER have any?

Puddintain

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Mar 22, 2011, 11:49:45 AM3/22/11

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Actually in his wee days of Usenet, he was fairly average and normal.
Likable even. But as soon as he started with the 2PD nonsense, it
rapidly went downhill from there. I think he really thought had hit
the "mother-load" with this idea, and snapped when everyone blasted
it. Although he was most likely on the verge anyways. If he wasn't so
smug, I'd feel more sorry for him I suppose. But then again, we all
have our faults.

Doug

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Mar 22, 2011, 12:37:29 PM3/22/11

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On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:49:45 -0700, Puddintain
<themasar...@gmail.com> wrote in article
<6f533157-c346-4308...@o21g2000prh.googlegroups.com>:

Why would an idea about diet make a person "snap"? A conflict between the
goals of the medical profession, and the notion that God dooms people who
do not believe in him to hell, to suffer unending infernal torment, may
have been a factor. "The primary goal of a medical doctor is to maintain
health care by preventing and treating illness." It seems that this
contradicts his religious views.

--
Doug

http://www.sentex.ca/~tcc/

Puddintain

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Mar 22, 2011, 7:33:34 PM3/22/11

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On Mar 22, 9:37 am, Doug <t...@sentex.net> wrote:

> Why would an idea about diet make a person "snap"? A conflict between the
> goals of the medical profession, and the notion that God dooms people who
> do not believe in him to hell, to suffer unending infernal torment, may
> have been a factor. "The primary goal of a medical doctor is to maintain
> health care by preventing and treating illness." It seems that this
> contradicts his religious views.

It might have made him snap because so many people were putting his
back against the wall regarding the 2PD plan, including other
physicians. But according to Mr. Chung's having been fired from his
position based on his demeanor and also having been arrested regarding
same, all of which became public knowledge, he was obviously coming
unglued. There are others who know/remember those details more
specifically and minutely than I do.

Mr. Chung himself seems to delight in the idea that his arch Usenet
rival, Bob Pastorio, who died of cancer in '07 (on April 1st to
Chung's further delight), is burning in hell.

As for the hell issue itself; there are many Christians who don't
believe the Bible teaches unending infernal torment. And if a
Christian is bothered by that doctrine, they're free to adopt another.
I've studied them all, and in the long run, rather than taking a firm
stance personally, have decided to leave it up to God. The best
lecture I've ever heard on the subject was delivered by Steve Gregg of
"The Narrow Path" and can be downloaded for free from Digital
Ministries:
http://www.digitalministries.us/steve_gregg/mp3/topical/three_views_of_hell-1.mp3
http://www.digitalministries.us/steve_gregg/mp3/topical/three_views_of_hell-2.mp3

You can even call Steve at 9:30 AM M-F PST at: (800) 227-5278. Or, at
2:00 PM M-F at (800) 438-5090 and ask him about it on his radio
program. He's a very resonable and pleasent man to talk to.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mar 25, 2011, 4:03:33 AM3/25/11

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a sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > a sockpuppet wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > a sockpuppet wrote:
> > >
> > > > > How is his (Ken's) identifying your post as SPAM cause for his soul to perish?
> >
> > > > It isn't.
> > > >
> > > > Source:
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7f6570247eabaa99?
> >
> > > Good ...
>
> > Only GOD is good (Matthew 19:17)
>
> So by that logic, YOU are not.

Instead, this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry which means he is being perfect for
his Father in Heaven is perfect (Matthew 5:48):

http://WDJW.net/RightAnswer

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a6f04442c67d672a?

another sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > another sockpuppet wrote:
> >
> > > Andrew B. Chung is a wolf in sheep's clothing
> >
> > This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) wouldn't be able to say
> > "Jesus is LORD" with his mouth for all to witness if he were a wolf:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG_YK8KBZk0
>
> Is the ability to say "Jesus is Lord" the
> Litmus Test of True Christians? NO!

Instead, saying the sentence "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans
10:9) results in spiritual salvation for it is written that when we do
this we "are saved" (Romans 10:10). This is because it is also written
that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1
Corinthians 12:3).

> Read:
> http://www.faithalone.org/news/y1993/93jan3.html

From your cite:

'This verse (1 Corinthians 12:3) has puzzled many because it seems
contrary to experience. Experience tells us that unbelievers are
capable of saying the three words, "Jesus is Lord."'

Unbelievers **think** they can publicly say the sentence "Jesus is
LORD" with their mouth (Romans 10:9) until they are challenged to do
it and discover they cannot as has happened for all to witness at
http://WDJW.net where there are also examples of people who really can
publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with their mouth per the Biblical mandate
of Philippians 2:10-11 for comparison.

Truth is reality:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fb91f20a366a3afa?

another sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > Being right in GOD's eyes with all glory to Him is from http://WDJW.net/Humility
> > which is not arrogance.
> >
> > Source:
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f211948ed5a2eb5d?
>
> Andrew Chung deciding, based on his own petty agenda, what is right in God's
> eyes is arrogance

Humility is not an agenda. Instead, it is a prerequisite for having
the guidance of the Holy Spirit to be right in GOD's eyes. Only GOD
knows what is right in His eyes and it is written that GOD resists
those who are proud, which are those who lack humility. Therefore,
those who are proud simply cannot be right in GOD's eyes because they
do not have His counsel to be right.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/075a5464676490fc?

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b32c5d6a93cd0ed2?

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
life in remembrance of the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our
Messiah, the Son of Man:

http://WDJW.net/PrinceOfPeace

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier for the heart, soul, mind, and
body:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f882137d4e2858d8?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by three lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat….but

not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few things,
as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this

physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by giving them a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that

they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Hjkdhfugfvu

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Mar 25, 2011, 4:12:37 AM3/25/11

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Prideful deceitful False Christian Mr. Chung SPAMed:

> Even if not overweight, type-2 diabetics have pathogenic VAT because
> of overeating

Also known as the Special K Pinch as shown in this 30 year old
commercial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWUBIbsSB2c&feature=related

> which is simply eating more than the right daily amount
> (32 oz).

Mr. Chung's 32 oz diet nonsense is based on the

documentary "Everest" in which the high altitude climbers (several of

whom died) ate dehydrated food, from which Mr. Chung made up the
calculation of exactly 32 oz per day being the correct amount of food
to eat.

> Thus, right amount (omer) control

Then he decided to turn that nonsense into a nonexistent Biblical

revelation and renamed it "omer".

> as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
> more sophisticated and smarter because it addresses the cause:

Then he made up the character named "Chris Malcolm" as artificial
support.

Thank goodness there are actual qualified licensed dietitians and
nutritionists out there for you to rely upon.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mar 26, 2011, 9:31:03 AM3/26/11

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a sockpuppet wrote:
>
> Does anyone really want to spend the rest of their life weighing out
> little portions of food to exactly 32 oz per day, hour after hour...
> Day after day... Week after week... Month after month... Year after
> year... Decade after decade... for a lifetime?

We really need to do it because it really is the **only** way to avoid
the sin of gluttony (John 5:14), which is simply eating more than the
right daily amount (32 oz) of real food as we http://WDJW.net/Guard
our body in order to become healthier ( hungrier --> http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier
) than ever. We really need to become healthier.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3b8dffabae6a7bf1?

another sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>

> > Even if not overweight, type-2 diabetics have pathogenic VAT because
> > of overeating
>

> Also known as the Special K Pinch ...

Incorrect.

Subcutaneous adipose tissue (SAT) is not the same as VAT (Visceral
Adipose Tissue), which is within and below muscle layers so as to
involve viscera.

Chung is nutz

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Mar 28, 2011, 12:35:22 AM3/28/11

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All of Usenet knows Andrew Chung is a cross-posting spaming netko0k troll.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mar 29, 2011, 10:36:40 PM3/29/11

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a sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote

> > a sockpuppet wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone really want to spend the rest of their life weighing out
> > > little portions of food to exactly 32 oz per day, hour after hour...
> > > Day after day... Week after week... Month after month... Year after
> > > year... Decade after decade... for a lifetime?
>
> > We really need to do it because it really is the **only** way to avoid
> > the sin of gluttony (John 5:14), which is simply eating more than the
> > right daily amount (32 oz) of real food as we http://WDJW.net/Guard

> > our body in order to become healthier ( hungrier -->
> > http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier )

> > than ever. We really need to become healthier.
> >
> > Source:
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3b8dffabae6a7bf1?
>

> The harsh reality is that people won't stick to it.

Incorrect.

Those of us who are actually doing it are having such an insightful
eye-opening experience that we really strongly know that we should not
close our eyes and go back to being ignorant about how much we are
eating, unable to freely choose to http://WDJW.net/Guard our body by
holding to the right daily amount (32 oz) of food.

This experience of having real insight is one order of magnitude
greater than the SMBG (Self Monitored Blood Glucose) experience of the
ASDers, who have expressed the sentiment that they do not want to go
back to not knowing their postprandial blood glucose level on which
they base their decisions on what foods to avoid in their misguided
choice to diet.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/79d79690b4f2aea1?

another sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > Even if not overweight, type-2 diabetics have pathogenic VAT because
> > of overeating
>
> Also known as the Special K Pinch ...

Incorrect.

Subcutaneous adipose tissue (SAT) is not the same as VAT (Visceral
Adipose Tissue), which is within and below muscle layers so as to
involve viscera.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af29c1ec26ea2d8d?