Re: opinions of this article?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mar 23, 2011, 9:19:32 PM3/23/11

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Ellen K. wrote:
>
> http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/healthy-cooking-tricks?ecd=wnl_dia_032311
>
> takes the position that people are overweight because they don't cook at
> home. I know this isn't true of me because even prior to diagnosis I rarely
> ate out or bought takeout, except for sushi about once a month. I see a lot
> of posts here from people who are obviously very good cooks but I really
> don't know who's overweight and who's thin, so I'm interested to know what
> folks here think about this premise.

Even if not overweight, type-2 diabetics have pathogenic VAT because
of overeating, which is simply eating more than the right daily amount
(32 oz).

Thus, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter because it addresses the cause:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

Catinthehat

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Mar 24, 2011, 12:38:15 AM3/24/11

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"Andrew B. Chung SPAMed:

> Even if not overweight, type-2 diabetics have pathogenic VAT because
> of overeating

Also known as the Special K Pinch as shown in this 30 year old
commercial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWUBIbsSB2c&feature=related

> which is simply eating more than the right daily amount
> (32 oz).

Mr. Chung's 32 oz diet nonsense is based on the
documentary "Everest" in which the high altitude climbers (several of
whom died) ate dehydrated food, from which Mr. Chung made up the
calculation of exactly 32 oz per day being the correct amount of food
to eat.

> Thus, right amount (omer) control

Then he decided to turn that nonsense into a nonexistent Biblical
revelation and renamed it "omer".

> as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
> more sophisticated and smarter because it addresses the cause:

Then he made up the character named "Chris Malcolm" as artificial
support.

Thank goodness there are actual qualified licensed dietitians and
nutritionists
out there for you to rely upon.

Noir

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Mar 24, 2011, 1:16:23 AM3/24/11

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"Andrew B. Chung" SPAMed:
> It's when we're really strong

We should be able to crank out more than 12 push ups...

http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/49162437#pm_cmp=vid_OEV_P_P

Pastor Rob Carlson

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Mar 24, 2011, 4:07:11 AM3/24/11

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Andrew B. Chung is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Rev. R.H. Brimshaw

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Mar 24, 2011, 5:57:15 AM3/24/11

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Andrew Chung wrote:

> Being right in GOD's eyes with all glory to Him is from
> which is not arrogance.

Andrew Chung deciding, based on his own petty agenda, what is right in God's
eyes is arrogance

> Whenever there is profane name-calling that includes the adjective
> "arrogant," GOD has allowed us to know that the targeted person is
> right in His eyes.

Andrew Chung displays an affinity for making stuff up and falsely attributes
those lies to the Bible.

> Name-calling is automatically lying and because GOD is the truth (John
> 14:6), the target of the lying is in Him, Who is always right.

Not when the name calling is the truth, such as calling the
Pharisees (false saints) "hypocrites" and "snakes"
Andrew Chung is obviously an arrogant hypocritical snake.

> "As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies"

Andrew Chung instead of displaying unconditional love displays
vindictiveness, such as when writing:

> May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now...

Then Andrew Chung attempts to gloss over his blatant vindictiveness with:

> ... all those who would anonymously propagandize the lie that "hunger
> is starvation" here on usenet for these are not either neighbors or
> enemies but rather are sockpuppets of satan already slated for
> destruction

Andrew Chung again makes stuff up and then falsely attributes the lie to the
Bible.

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

Considering Andrew Chung's predilection for twisting the Scriptures, that's
obviously highly unlikely.

> > > Chung is INSANE.
>
> > Lie.
>
> > Wouldn't have an active medical license as all can verify on-line if
> > your lie were true

All that means is that Andrew Chung has not yet been legally proven to be
insane.
Probably because he most likely hasn't had an active practice for many years
and
is most likely in his parents guardianship.

> > It needs to be taken away from you.
>
> Lie.
> Medical licenses have no need.

Apparently all of Andrew Chung's bluster boils down to farce.

> > He is a totally arrogant person.
>
> Lie.
>
> Just as there is no such thing as an incompletely arrogant person,
> there is no such thing as a totally arrogant one.

Grammatically incorrect. Andrew Chung is totally, obviously completely and
thoroughly arrogant.

> > A Supreme EGOIST.
>
> Lie.
>
> No such thing.

Andrew Chung is again incorrect... go figure.

> Instead, folks like this physician have what is called a super-ego,
> which is our conscience, that keeps us from lying compulsively like
> you.

Andrew Chung clearly operates from the id rather than the super ego.

Bottom line: Andrew Chung is a supremely egotistical pathological liar and a
troll.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mar 24, 2011, 7:45:58 PM3/24/11

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a sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >

> > Being right in GOD's eyes with all glory to Him is from http://WDJW.net/Humility
> > which is not arrogance.
> >
> > Source:
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f211948ed5a2eb5d?

>
> Andrew Chung deciding, based on his own petty agenda, what is right in God's
> eyes is arrogance

Humility is not an agenda. Instead, it is a prerequisite for having
the guidance of the Holy Spirit to be right in GOD's eyes. Only GOD
knows what is right in His eyes and it is written that GOD resists
those who are proud, which are those who lack humility. Therefore,
those who are proud simply cannot be right in GOD's eyes because they
do not have His counsel to be right.

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b32c5d6a93cd0ed2?

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
life in remembrance of the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our
Messiah, the Son of Man:

http://WDJW.net/PrinceOfPeace

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier for the heart, soul, mind, and
body:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f882137d4e2858d8?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by three lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are

"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat….but

not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few things,
as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by giving them a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist

and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Pastor Robert Carlson

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Mar 24, 2011, 11:48:06 PM3/24/11

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Andrew B. Chung wrote:

> Pastor Robert Carlson wrote:
>>
>> Andrew B. Chung is a wolf in sheep's clothing
>

> This physician wouldn't be able to say
> "Jesus is LORD" with his mouth for all to witness if he were a wolf:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG_YK8KBZk0

Is the ability to say "Jesus is Lord" the
Litmus Test of True Christians? NO! Read:
http://www.faithalone.org/news/y1993/93jan3.html

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mar 25, 2011, 1:31:30 AM3/25/11

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a sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> > a sockpuppet wrote:
> >>
> >> Andrew B. Chung is a wolf in sheep's clothing
> >

> > This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) wouldn't be able to say

> > "Jesus is LORD" with his mouth for all to witness if he were a wolf:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG_YK8KBZk0
>
> Is the ability to say "Jesus is Lord" the
> Litmus Test of True Christians? NO!

Instead, saying the sentence "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans
10:9) results in spiritual salvation for it is written that when we do
this we "are saved" (Romans 10:10). This is because it is also written
that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1
Corinthians 12:3).

> Read:
> http://www.faithalone.org/news/y1993/93jan3.html

From your cite:

'This verse (1 Corinthians 12:3) has puzzled many because it seems
contrary to experience. Experience tells us that unbelievers are
capable of saying the three words, "Jesus is Lord."'

Unbelievers **think** they can publicly say the sentence "Jesus is
LORD" with their mouth (Romans 10:9) until they are challenged to do
it and discover they cannot as has happened for all to witness at
http://WDJW.net where there are also examples of people who can
publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with their mouth per the Biblical mandate
of Philippians 2:10-11 for comparison.

Truth is reality:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

another sockpuppet wrote:
>
> How is his (Ken's) identifying your post as SPAM cause for his soul to perish?

It isn't.

His reacting adversely to what the Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit
) guides this physician to write&post allows us to know that Ken still
needs to be born again (John 3:3 & 5) to become a new creature (2
Corinthians 5:17) in Christ, http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by GOD so that
he would receive eternal life (John 3:16).

Afterall, it is written that the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23).

Gluttony, which is simply eating more than 32 oz of real food per day,
is on this side of Eden, the original Adam&Eve sin and is causing
type-2 diabetes, which is killing many including Ken.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7f6570247eabaa99?

another sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > Being right in GOD's eyes with all glory to Him is from http://WDJW.net/Humility
> > which is not arrogance.
> >
> > Source:
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f211948ed5a2eb5d?
>
> Andrew Chung deciding, based on his own petty agenda, what is right in God's
> eyes is arrogance

Humility is not an agenda. Instead, it is a prerequisite for having
the guidance of the Holy Spirit to be right in GOD's eyes. Only GOD
knows what is right in His eyes and it is written that GOD resists
those who are proud, which are those who lack humility. Therefore,
those who are proud simply cannot be right in GOD's eyes because they
do not have His counsel to be right.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/075a5464676490fc?