http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
Please pray for those whom the Holy Spirit has convicted:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water, dear
brethren whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
That's "naught", you illiterate fuck.
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
Link left so that further proof of your disease will become better
known.
> Please pray for those whom the Holy Spirit has convicted:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
What a nice little list. What are you threatening, Andy? Should I call
Homeland Security on that little compound you're building over at
Paradise Concepts before your "deciples" come out to kill us? From the
Wacko in Waco, to the Moron in Mableton, no one does meaningless
killing like Christian idiots.
> May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water, dear
> brethren whom I love unconditionally.
Fuck you with Micheal Jackson's dick. Have you followed your 2PD-OMER
and eaten your daily two pounds of shit?
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man Sept 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
The use of old English was purposeful to draw you out and vanquish you
again.
Source:
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/nought
This victory belongs to GOD:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8f0ed8277bdbc4ed?
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you curse HIM, dear
neighbor Floyd whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
> > Please pray for those whom the Holy Spirit has convicted:
We've read it, o failed cardiologist. Fuck your stupid nonexistent GOD
and all those who worship it.
Where's my bolt of lightning?
> Where's my bolt of lightning?
Piss into a live wall socket.
--
I am The Great I Am.
nought (n) a character from the Arabic numeral system, which represents
the number zero, the sum of Earthquack's value as a human being, a
Christian proselytiser or a Cardiology consultant. In the last of these
matters he is reduced to giving out glib advice on the internet.
Liar.
> Source:
>
> http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/nought
Sources are easy to find *after* the fact, illiterate shit-eating liar.
> This victory belongs to GOD:
There is no evidence gods exist. You are insane, and wasting your time.
Get a job, asshole:
http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/home.cfm
And send the fucking child support already, you deadbeat! I'm gonna
report you if you don't pay that poor woman soon. No reason for your
daughter to starve simply because you've not come to terms with reality
yet..
> May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you curse HIM
I curse "HIM" at this moment, Chunk. And I've posted it. I'll post again
later, just to prove that you have no connection to reality.
At all.
Fuck you and the *GAWD!* you rode in on.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
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Quotemeister since March 2002
> In article <1162716342.5...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>
> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you curse HIM
>
> I curse "HIM" at this moment, Chunk. And I've posted it. I'll post again
> later, just to prove that you have no connection to reality.
>
> At all.
>
> Fuck you and the *GAWD!* you rode in on.
whats assuming is you whine about how your beliefs dont get no respect
so you show your greater tolerance and humanity
by respecting the beliefs of others
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
> Fear GOD and dread nought:
May I humble recommend this post for TQOTM?
I admit one hase to think about it to understand it's profoundness:)
Peter van Velzen
November 2006
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
> Fear GOD and dread nought:
Wich is only logically possible if God does not exist.
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
>
> Please pray for those whom the Holy Spirit has convicted:
OK I will pray for nobody
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water, dear
> brethren whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Love you to!
though not uncondictionally
You have to keep making these funny posts.!
As brother David (A Franciscan Monk) used to say.
"You can't love what you do not know".
The FNVW may have an issue with that if you're an alt.atheism atheist. k0oKs
aren't allowed to nominate:
alt.atheism September 2006 winner of George Armstrong Custer "Kicked @$$"
Award, a Ko0K combat award.
"Given to those brave, inspiring crusaders who will keep up a lost lunatic
cause despite all odds, even after the enemy has won, set up their own
superpower in their midst and are chugging Guinness in a Kook-free world
scenario."
--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006
"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion
"If the truth be known, the only reason Osama is still on the loose is
because he himself hasn't fallen victim to the K-Man." - Wog George
Thou foul indigested lump. Thou bloodsucking, degenerate poor gallant
knave.
<text snipped by Atheist Kutchie in a desperate act of cowardice>
> We've read it, o failed cardiologist. Fuck your stupid nonexistent GOD
> and all those who worship it.
Your proposal that GOD and HIS brethren penetrate you is not a curse to
HIM.
At this moment, HIS plan is to turn you over to satan for the
penetration.
> Where's my bolt of lightning?
Some have indeed likened satan's penetrating them to a bolt of
lightning.
You obviously remain vanquished:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6f8eb4d5e5c1f06c?
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you curse HIM, dear
neighbor Kutchie whom I love unconditionally.
Actually, it is logically possible if GOD is not of this world.
GOD is spirit.
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
> >
> > Please pray for those whom the Holy Spirit has convicted:
>
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> OK I will pray for nobody
Your choice.
> >
> > May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water, dear
> > brethren whom I love unconditionally.
> >
> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Love you to!
> though not uncondictionally
> You have to keep making these funny posts.!
> As brother David (A Franciscan Monk) used to say.
> "You can't love what you do not know".
Those who have GOD's love in their hearts love even their enemies.
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you curse HIM, dear
neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
We'll see.
> And I've posted it. I'll post again
> later, just to prove that you have no connection to reality.
>
> At all.
>
> Fuck you and the *GAWD!* you rode in on.
Not riding anything.
Your proposing that I penetrate you is not a curse.
Your proposal has been respectfully declined.
Many thanks, much praise, all the glory to GOD for your deciding wisely
not to curse HIM at this moment.
This victory belongs to GOD whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind,
and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
Fear GOD and dread nought:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
Your consolation prize is eternal life if you choose to surrender to
HIM:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you curse HIM, dear
neighbor Nemo whom I love unconditionally.
It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.
> > Source:
> >
> > http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/nought
>
> Sources are easy to find *after* the fact, illiterate shit-eating liar.
Name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost.
> > This victory belongs to GOD:
>
> <link snipped by Floyd in an act of continued cowardice>
Link restored:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8f0ed8277bdbc4ed?
>
> There is no evidence gods exist.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS using you to
serve as evidence that GOD exists.
All folks have to do is reread the subject line of this thread.
> You are insane, and wasting your time.
> Get a job, asshole:
> http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/home.cfm
High praise coming from a atheist.
This praise redirected to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
mind, and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/love.asp
> And send the fucking child support already, you deadbeat! I'm gonna
> report you if you don't pay that poor woman soon. No reason for your
> daughter to starve simply because you've not come to terms with reality
> yet..
<yawn>
You obviously remain vanquished.
Your consolation prize is still eternal life is you choose to surrender
to HIM:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you curse HIM, dear
> > Fuck you and the *GAWD!* you rode in on.
>
> Not riding anything.
>
> Your proposing that I penetrate you is not a curse.
I wouldn't want to get anywhere within the 2-inch radius your penis has
access to, asshat. If you don't know a curse when you read it, that's
hardly surprising.
Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> If you don't know a curse when you read it, that's
> hardly surprising.
Again, your proposal was not a curse though respectfully declined.
You obviously remain vanquished:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8d70bbd8208886b9?
<snip crap>
"Re: Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting
their curse on Usenet."
I curse Andy's GOD.
Hey, look, I didn't die before posting my curse on usenet.
Andy lies again.
I sure hope he doesn't treat his "patients" this badly.
>Please pray for those whom the Holy Spirit has convicted:
>
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
I am *still* not litsed, Fraudi. Why is that?
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Hi, fanbois!
>panam...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > panam...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Fear GOD and dread nought:
>> > > >
>> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
>> > >
>> > > That's "naught", you illiterate fuck.
>> >
>> > The use of old English was purposeful to draw you out and vanquish you
>> > again.
>>
>> Liar.
>
>It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.
Liar.
Beautiful. Seconded!
--
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Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
>panam...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >
>> > Fear GOD and dread nought:
>> >
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
>>
>> That's "naught", you illiterate fuck.
>
>The use of old English was purposeful to draw you out and vanquish you
>again.
And here I thought it was because you're a pretentious twit.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schreef:
>
>> Fear GOD and dread nought:
>
> Which is only logically possible if God does not exist.
<snirk>
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schreef:
>
>> Fear GOD and dread nought:
>
> May I humble recommend this post for TQOTM?
> I admit one hase to think about it to understand it's profoundness:)
Second, definitely!
> Again, your proposal was not a curse though respectfully declined.
I curse God again.
Nope... still here, asswipe.
Your proposal though entertaining for all parties concerned still does
not pass muster as a curse:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/795e2f7532fbd99c?
> Nope... still here, asswipe.
Name-calling simply shows that you remain as lost as atheist Kutchie:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8f5d627a3bbc40d3?
And so you remain vanquished:
If that were true, you would have been annihilated as you typed the
words of the curse.
> Hey, look, I didn't die before posting my curse on usenet.
Actually, you have not written anything that one would regard as a
curse.
> Andy lies again.
It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.
> I sure hope he doesn't treat his "patients" this badly.
Sorry you feel abused by the truth. Please forgive all my iniquities.
Many thanks, much praise and all the glory to GOD for your wisely
choosing not to curse GOD and die.
This victory belongs to GOD, whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind,
and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
Fear GOD and dread nought:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
Your consolation prize is eternal life if you choose to surrender to
HIM:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you curse HIM, dear
neighbor JessHC whom I love unconditionally.
Too bad you were lying, lying little liar. Too bad you can't lie any
better than that.
Fuck Andy's pathetically ineffectual little nonexistent God. I DAMN
ANDY'S WORTHLESS GOD TO HELL. Or worse, an enternity of having to read
Andy's posts. I curse Andy's god by any and every means possible.
> > Hey, look, I didn't die before posting my curse on usenet.
>
> Actually, you have not written anything that one would regard as a curse.
Liar. I condemn you and your pathetic nonexistent pixie to external
damnation. I curse you both with an eternity of eating each other's
excrement.
> > Andy lies again.
>
> It remains
that you are a liar; insisting otherwise doesn't change your lies to
truth, no matter how much your damaged brain wishes.
> > I sure hope he doesn't treat his "patients" this badly.
>
> Sorry
Yeah, me too; people are dying specifically because your pride prevents
you from facing reality. I'm sorry some people will read your words
and be unable to escape the needlessly terminal treatment you provide.
Have some more acetone, Andy.
Jesus oozes rectal puss specifically because of your lies, andy.
You're killing evil baby jesus.
It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.
> Fuck Andy's pathetically ineffectual little nonexistent God.
Your proposal to be penetrated by GOD, while entertaining is not a
curse.
> I DAMN
> ANDY'S WORTHLESS GOD TO HELL.
Your attempt to send GOD to hell, while also entertaining is not a
curse.
> Or worse, an enternity of having to read
> Andy's posts.
Again, entertaining and amusing but not a curse.
> I curse Andy's god by any and every means possible.
Many thanks, much praise and all the glory to GOD for your wisely
feigning ignorance about how to curse GOD thereby saving face and
escaping with your life for now.
> > > Hey, look, I didn't die before posting my curse on usenet.
> >
> > Actually, you have not written anything that one would regard as a curse.
>
> Liar. I condemn you and your pathetic nonexistent pixie to external
> damnation. I curse you both with an eternity of eating each other's
> excrement.
GOD is spirit.
Excrement does not bother HIM.
It seems you and PF have coprophilia along with being vanquished by GOD
in common:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8f0ed8277bdbc4ed?
> > > Andy lies again.
> >
> > It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.
>
> that you are a liar; insisting otherwise doesn't change your lies to
> truth, no matter how much your damaged brain wishes.
You have been rendered incoherent. Could be OBS from MCD.
> > > I sure hope he doesn't treat his "patients" this badly.
> >
> > Sorry you feel abused by the truth. Please forgive all my iniquities.
>
> Yeah, me too; people are dying specifically because your pride prevents
> you from facing reality. I'm sorry some people will read your words
> and be unable to escape the needlessly terminal treatment you provide.
> Have some more acetone, Andy.
No thanks. Low-carbing is not my style.
The ways of the Holy Spirit will never be known to those who are of
this world.
Fear GOD and dread nought:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
May GOD continue to keep you heart beating unless you choose to curse
HIM, dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
> God does not require "proof" of Himself. (2 Corinthians 5:7)
Actually, it is the brethren of Christ who do not require proof:
"We live by faith, not by sight." (2 Corinthians 5:7)
Amen.
In truth, GOD has the infinite free will to provide proof as HE did
when HE offered the holes in HIS hands and the hole in HIS side to
Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas to prove that HE is indeed our
risen LORD Jesus Christ.
"My LORD **and** my GOD ! " -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas
upon seeing the risen Christ Jesus.
"Blessed are those who believe without proof." -- Holy Spirit.
Amen !
Laus Deo ! ! !
> You are warmly invited to repent, and accept the gentle yoke of Jesus's
> Lordship on your confused and meandering life.
It remains my choice to stay by HIS side in my continued ever closer
walk with LORD Jesus Christ and refuse your broad and wayward
meandering path away from HIM:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
Fear GOD and dread nought:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
Clearly, you remain vanquished:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4d04785e363d17e2?
Your consolation prize is still eternal life with LORD Jesus Christ if
you choose to surrender to HIM:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating to give
you extra time to understand and act on this, dear neighbor Phelps whom
<snip>
What are you doing on a k0oK group Chung?
Link restored:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
> What are you doing on a k0oK group Chung?
Walking ever closer with LORD Jesus Christ, whom I love with all my
heart, soul, mind, and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you choose to curse
HIM, dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
>Art Deco wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> >Please pray for those whom the Holy Spirit has convicted:
>> >
>> >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>> >
>> I am *still* not litsed, Fraudi. Why is that?
>
>The ways of the Holy Spirit will never be known to those who are of
>this world.
Defective coward.
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"Who is "David Tholen", Daedalus? Still suffering from
attribution problems?"
-- Dr. David Tholen
Sorry your not being on the prayer list disappoints you. Please
forgive all my iniquities.
You may still choose to surrender to LORD Jesus Christ because HE never
disappoints:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating to give you time to
understand this, dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
Please keep your comments about religion in appropriate groups.
Jeff
Actually, sudden cardiac death (SCD) in folks who choose to curse GOD
is on-topic for sci.med.cardiology.
This would be related to Broken Heart Syndrome.
It would be equivalent to the withering of the fig tree when its soul
was annihilated by a curse from LORD Jesus Christ (Mark 11:12-14, 20):
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/scholarly.asp
> Please keep your comments about religion in appropriate groups.
Writing as a cardiologist, this thread is on-topic for SMC for the
reasons given above.
This victory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind,
and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
Fear GOD and dread nought:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
Your consolation prize is eternal life if you choose to surrender to
HIM:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating to give
you extra time to understand this, dear neigbor Jeff Utz whom I love
>Art Deco wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >Art Deco wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Please pray for those whom the Holy Spirit has convicted:
>> >> >
>> >> >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>> >> >
>> >> I am *still* not litsed, Fraudi. Why is that?
>> >
>> >The ways of the Holy Spirit will never be known to those who are of
>> >this world.
>>
>> Defective coward.
>
>Sorry your not being on the prayer list disappoints you. Please
>forgive all my iniquities.
Request DENIED, Fraudi. Now put me on your hate lits.
>
>You may still choose to surrender to LORD Jesus Christ because HE never
>disappoints:
[kooklink flushed]
<snip religious fantasy garbage and bogus chung links as a public service>
OK, here we go: God, if you exist, I curse you for allowing the innocent to
suffer.
OK, now I'll post this....
OK, whew I'm STILL ALIVE!!!
Morona thon!!!
Without servicing Rev. Ted, Chung's life is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
<public service snip of chungian nonsense> ;-))
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Link restored:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
> OK, here we go: God, if you exist, I curse you for allowing the innocent to
> suffer.
What you have written is not a curse.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for your wisely
choosing not to curse HIM so that your still being alive continues to
serve as evidence of HIS infinite grace and mercy toward you.
> OK, now I'll post this....
Wiser to surrender to LORD Jesus Christ:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you curse HIM, dear
neighbor Kurt whom I love unconditionally.
Link restored:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
> > OK, here we go: God, if you exist, I curse you for allowing the innocent
> > to suffer.
Again, no curse:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/85bd05f67638a526?
Fear GOD and dread nought:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
You remain vanquished:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/86bc5bf1688ee02d?
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you choose to curse
> Please pray for those whom the Holy Spirit has convicted:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water, dear
> brethren whom I love unconditionally.
No.
Those who are without eternal life through faith in LORD Jesus Christ
fear death.
Serving on the USS Texas during WWII was billed as certain death.
Only those with the assurance of eternal life through faith in LORD
Jesus Christ have the courage to make the supreme sacrifice of giving
up their lives for the sake of others.
> Most of the people who died in WWII were Christians
Untrue. Most who died were non-christians.
>, so why did this guy get a pass and all those other good
> churchgoers not?
The rest of the crew of the DreadNought except for one was also spared
during WWII.
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you choose to curse
HIM, dear neighbor Nini whom I love unconditionally.
Your request similarly denied. Again, sorry.
Fear GOD and dread nought:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you choose to curse
HIM, dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
Your proposal to be penetrated by GOD, while amusing and entertaining
is not a curse except for yourself when GOD turns you over to satan for
the penetration.
> > If you had, you would have been annihilated as regrettably has possibly
> > already happened to "Torturer:"
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4ca3c907f485755?
> >
> > Fear GOD and dread nought:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
> >
> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you curse HIM, dear
> > neighbor Nemo whom I love unconditionally.
>
> But not enough to criticise someone who would kill him for expressing
> an opinion.
Though I love you and Nemo unconditionally dear neighbor Nini, I love
GOD infinitely more with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
This victory belongs to HIM.
Laus Deo ! ! !
Your consolation prize is eternal life and salvation from satan's
horrifying abuse if you choose to surrender to HIM:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you choose to curse
HIM, dear neighbor Nini whom I love unconditionally.
Absolute rubbish.
> Those who are without eternal life through faith in LORD Jesus Christ
> fear death.
>
> Serving on the USS Texas during WWII was billed as certain death.
>
Serving on any ship during WWII was dangerous - the USS Texas was no
exception.
> Only those with the assurance of eternal life through faith in LORD
> Jesus Christ have the courage to make the supreme sacrifice of giving
> up their lives for the sake of others.
>
I have news for you Ching. Many brave men and women made the ultimate
sacrifice during wartime, on all sides, and not all were Christian.
Bravery is not restricted to Christians or any other particular religion.
>> Most of the people who died in WWII were Christians
>
> Untrue. Most who died were non-christians.
>
Rubbish
>> , so why did this guy get a pass and all those other good
>> churchgoers not?
>
> The rest of the crew of the DreadNought except for one was also spared
> during WWII.
Meanwhile Christians were killed in other battles, on other ships, in
other campaigns. One did not have to be a Christian to survive war, and
one did not have to be an Atheist or a Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu et
al to die.
You insult the memories of good men and women over the whole world with
such words.
>
> May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you choose to curse
> HIM, dear neighbor Nini whom I love unconditionally.
>
I curse you Chang. You are a maggot spewing dung.
--
Oldus Fartus
Andrew, I don't think it's a good idea to encourage anybody to curse
God. It's just not the thing that God would want you to do.
God's blessings to you and protect you, Ros
The truth is amazing.
> > Those who are without eternal life through faith in LORD Jesus Christ
> > fear death.
> >
> > Serving on the USS Texas during WWII was billed as certain death.
>
> Serving on any ship during WWII was dangerous - the USS Texas was no
> exception.
None expected the USS Texas being a large and slow converted
coal-burner to return from WWII. However, it was expected that the
newer faster ships would return. Non-christians took their chances
elsewhere not believing that there is no such thing as chance (Proverbs
16:33).
> > Only those with the assurance of eternal life through faith in LORD
> > Jesus Christ have the courage to make the supreme sacrifice of giving
> > up their lives for the sake of others.
>
> I have news for you Ching. Many brave men and women made the ultimate
> sacrifice during wartime, on all sides, and not all were Christian.
> Bravery is not restricted to Christians or any other particular religion.
Bravery of the kind exhibited by the crew of the USS Texas is the same
kind of bravery seen in the Amish schoolgirls who recently gave up
their lives for their classmates:
"Shoot me first and spare the others." -- Amish school girl walking up
boldly to the heavily armed gunman who had barricaded himself in their
school.
This kind of bravery comes only from the Holy Spirit, Who resides
exclusively in born-again Christians that have GOD's love in their
hearts and know that they have life everlasting in LORD Jesus Christ.
> >> Most of the people who died in WWII were Christians
> >
> > Untrue. Most who died were non-christians.
>
> Rubbish
The truth is amazing.
It seems you would deny the WWII Holocaust. There were many millions
of non-christian Jews who died in WWII.
> >> , so why did this guy get a pass and all those other good
> >> churchgoers not?
> >
> > The rest of the crew of the DreadNought except for one was also spared
> > during WWII.
>
> Meanwhile Christians were killed in other battles, on other ships, in
> other campaigns. One did not have to be a Christian to survive war, and
> one did not have to be an Atheist or a Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu et
> al to die.
See above.
> You insult the memories of good men and women over the whole world with
> such words.
Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >
> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you choose to curse
> > HIM, dear neighbor Nini whom I love unconditionally.
> >
>
> I curse you Chang. You are a maggot spewing dung.
Your name-calling simply shows that you are lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
This victory belongs to GOD whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind,
and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
Laus Deo ! ! !
Your consolation prize is eternal life and salvation from being abused
horrifically by satan if you choose to surrender to LORD Jesus Christ:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you choose to curse
HIM, dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
Indeed, fear of death should discourage all from cursing GOD.
> It's just not the thing that God would want you to do.
Correct. The pain of death from cursing GOD would be beyond all
imagination.
> God's blessings to you and protect you, Ros
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for your kind
thoughts.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water, dear sister
Ros whom I love unconditionally.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
It's all GOD. Simply a willing vessel here, that's all, dear brother
Frank.
> We need pray for them.
All the time:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> "Glib advice" indeed!!!!
Our LORD's purpose for me here on Usenet remains to inform and not to
advise.
Simply HIS swordbearer and not HIS swordsman.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water, dear brother
Frank whom I love unconditionally.
It certainly is, and perhaps one day you will accept that.
>>> Those who are without eternal life through faith in LORD Jesus Christ
>>> fear death.
>>>
>>> Serving on the USS Texas during WWII was billed as certain death.
>> Serving on any ship during WWII was dangerous - the USS Texas was no
>> exception.
>
> None expected the USS Texas being a large and slow converted
> coal-burner to return from WWII. However, it was expected that the
> newer faster ships would return. Non-christians took their chances
> elsewhere not believing that there is no such thing as chance (Proverbs
> 16:33).
>
Where do you get these ideas? I had a long career in the Navy Ching,
which is something you did not have. Do not presume to know what
happened or did not happen.
>>> Only those with the assurance of eternal life through faith in LORD
>>> Jesus Christ have the courage to make the supreme sacrifice of giving
>>> up their lives for the sake of others.
>> I have news for you Ching. Many brave men and women made the ultimate
>> sacrifice during wartime, on all sides, and not all were Christian.
>> Bravery is not restricted to Christians or any other particular religion.
>
> Bravery of the kind exhibited by the crew of the USS Texas is the same
> kind of bravery seen in the Amish schoolgirls who recently gave up
> their lives for their classmates:
>
Don't try and confuse the issue by lumping sailors on the USS Texas with
Amish schoolgirls Ching.
> "Shoot me first and spare the others." -- Amish school girl walking up
> boldly to the heavily armed gunman who had barricaded himself in their
> school.
>
> This kind of bravery comes only from the Holy Spirit, Who resides
> exclusively in born-again Christians that have GOD's love in their
> hearts and know that they have life everlasting in LORD Jesus Christ.
>
That is an odd statement. You consider the Amish to be "born again"
Christians do you?
>>>> Most of the people who died in WWII were Christians
>>> Untrue. Most who died were non-christians.
>> Rubbish
>
> The truth is amazing.
>
> It seems you would deny the WWII Holocaust. There were many millions
> of non-christian Jews who died in WWII.
>
Do you have a reading disability? Where did I deny the Holocaust. I
clearly wrote that one did not have to be a Christian to survive, and
one did not have to be anything else in particular to die. Jews,
Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, Atheists, Buddhists and everyone in
between perished. Courage was not restricted to any one race or creed
Clunk, which is why your statements have made yourself into a laughing
stock.
>>>> , so why did this guy get a pass and all those other good
>>>> churchgoers not?
>>> The rest of the crew of the DreadNought except for one was also spared
>>> during WWII.
>> Meanwhile Christians were killed in other battles, on other ships, in
>> other campaigns. One did not have to be a Christian to survive war, and
>> one did not have to be an Atheist or a Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu et
>> al to die.
>
> See above.
>
>> You insult the memories of good men and women over the whole world with
>> such words.
>
> Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>
No Clank, it is your opinion which is totally meaningless (Oldus Fartus).
You insulted the memories of brave individuals right around the world
suggesting that only Christians can be brave or do their duty.
>>> May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you choose to curse
>>> HIM, dear neighbor Nini whom I love unconditionally.
>>>
>> I curse you Chang. You are a maggot spewing dung.
>
> Your name-calling simply shows that you are lost:
>
I am not lost Chink, your words in this thread have proved you are
completely out of touch.
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
>
> This victory belongs to GOD whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind,
> and strength:
>
Dream on McDuff.
snipped meaningless drivel from the pretentious bigot.
--
Cheers
Oldus Fartus
Andy, andy, andy. You big fat liar. I'm without any of your
superstitious crap, and I don't fear death.
:
>> >>
>> >> Fear
<snip>
>> > <snipped in Kurt Gavin in a desperate act of cowardice>
>
> Link restored:
>
> http://groups.google.<snip>/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
>
>> > OK, <snip>.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/85bd05f67638a526?
>
> Fear GOD and dread nought:
>
> http://groups.google.com<snip>>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/86bc5bf1688ee02d?
>
> May GOD continue to keep your <snip>,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://He<snip>hD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://<snip>com/Love
>
More than that... already know HIM.
Most assuredly, without doubt, I know LORD Jesus Christ to be kind,
just, and right.
> >>> Those who are without eternal life through faith in LORD Jesus Christ
> >>> fear death.
> >>>
> >>> Serving on the USS Texas during WWII was billed as certain death.
> >> Serving on any ship during WWII was dangerous - the USS Texas was no
> >> exception.
> >
> > None expected the USS Texas being a large and slow converted
> > coal-burner to return from WWII. However, it was expected that the
> > newer faster ships would return. Non-christians took their chances
> > elsewhere not believing that there is no such thing as chance (Proverbs
> > 16:33).
>
> Where do you get these ideas?
>From a friend who served on her from 1944-1945.
> I had a long career in the Navy Ching,
> which is something you did not have.
Not relevant to this discussion if your service was not on the USS
Texas during WWII.
> Do not presume to know what happened or did not happen.
I trust my source than I trust someone lost like you. Sorry. Please
forgive all my iniquities.
Hint: Your racially disparaging alterations in my name do not add to
your credibility and reveals who is really the bigot here.
> >>> Only those with the assurance of eternal life through faith in LORD
> >>> Jesus Christ have the courage to make the supreme sacrifice of giving
> >>> up their lives for the sake of others.
> >> I have news for you Ching. Many brave men and women made the ultimate
> >> sacrifice during wartime, on all sides, and not all were Christian.
> >> Bravery is not restricted to Christians or any other particular religion.
> >
> > Bravery of the kind exhibited by the crew of the USS Texas is the same
> > kind of bravery seen in the Amish schoolgirls who recently gave up
> > their lives for their classmates:
>
> Don't try and confuse the issue by lumping sailors on the USS Texas with
> Amish schoolgirls Ching.
They have a Source in common... the Holy Spirit.
> > "Shoot me first and spare the others." -- Amish school girl walking up
> > boldly to the heavily armed gunman who had barricaded himself in their
> > school.
> >
> > This kind of bravery comes only from the Holy Spirit, Who resides
> > exclusively in born-again Christians that have GOD's love in their
> > hearts and know that they have life everlasting in LORD Jesus Christ.
>
> That is an odd statement. You consider the Amish to be "born again"
> Christians do you?
There are those among the Amish who are indeed reborn of living water
and the Holy Spirit as Jesus described to Nicodemus.
> >>>> Most of the people who died in WWII were Christians
> >>> Untrue. Most who died were non-christians.
> > >
> >> **Rubbish**
**emphasis** added.
> >
> > The truth is amazing.
> >
> > It seems you would deny the WWII Holocaust. There were many millions
> > of non-christian Jews who died in WWII.
>
> Do you have a reading disability?
No.
> Where did I deny the Holocaust.
See **emphasis** above which was your response to the fact:
"Most who died were non-christians."
This fact relies heavily on the fact that millions of non-christian
Jews died in WWII.
> I
> clearly wrote that one did not have to be a Christian to survive, and
> one did not have to be anything else in particular to die. Jews,
> Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, Atheists, Buddhists and everyone in
> between perished. Courage was not restricted to any one race or creed
> Clunk, which is why your statements have made yourself into a laughing
> stock.
See above.
> >>>> , so why did this guy get a pass and all those other good
> >>>> churchgoers not?
> >>> The rest of the crew of the DreadNought except for one was also spared
> >>> during WWII.
> >> Meanwhile Christians were killed in other battles, on other ships, in
> >> other campaigns. One did not have to be a Christian to survive war, and
> >> one did not have to be an Atheist or a Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu et
> >> al to die.
> >
> > See above.
> >
> >> You insult the memories of good men and women over the whole world with
> >> such words.
> >
> > Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>
> No Clank, it is your opinion which is totally meaningless (Oldus Fartus).
Oldus Fartus remains vanquished as a credible source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/02dd5c15e9e3e709?
> You insulted the memories of brave individuals right around the world
> suggesting that only Christians can be brave or do their duty.
Sorry you feel insulted by what I have written. Please forgive all my
iniquities.
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you choose to curse
>Art Deco wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >Art Deco wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >Art Deco wrote:
>> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Please pray for those whom the Holy Spirit has convicted:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> I am *still* not litsed, Fraudi. Why is that?
>> >> >
>> >> >The ways of the Holy Spirit will never be known to those who are of
>> >> >this world.
>> >>
>> >> Defective coward.
>> >
>> >Sorry your not being on the prayer list disappoints you. Please
>> >forgive all my iniquities.
>>
>> Request DENIED, Fraudi. Now put me on your hate lits.
>
>Your request similarly denied. Again, sorry.
>
>Fear GOD and dread nought:
Shuttup, ko0k.
[spammage flushed]
>Andrew, I don't think it's a good idea to encourage anybody to curse
>God. It's just not the thing that God would want you to do.
>
>God's blessings to you and protect you, Ros
Why do you tolerate and abide this liar and fraud?
You wouldn't know truth if it hit you with a mallet, bitch.
> > <link snipped by Floyd in an act of continued cowardice>
Not cowardice, shitstain. Courtesy. Some people have to pay for
bandwidth, idiot.
Link restored:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/scholarly.asp
> Here again, we see Andrew perverting the revealed Word of the Living
> God. For what purpose? Who can say?
>
> Here is what God's Word ACTUALLY says in Mark 11:12-14, 20: "The next
> day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the
> distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit.
> When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the
> season for figs. Then he said to the tree, "May no one ever eat fruit
> from you again." And his disciples heard him say it.....In the morning,
> as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots."
>
> You will notice that the false teaching of an annhiliated "tree soul"
> does not appear here.
Actually, there is no other satisfactory answer to the question "Why
did LORD Jesus Christ curse the fig tree for not bearing fruit out of
season?"
> What Andrew offers instead of the Gospel of
> Jesus Christ is the religion of "animism".
No. I am not the Holy Spirit. Moreover, what the Holy Spirit has
guided me to write is simply an understanding of Mark 11:12-14, 20.
Such an understanding does not make a religion even if you choose to
call it animism.
> Galatians 1:18 declares a curse upon those who teach such things.
You are without the counsel of the Holy Spirit:
"Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with
Peter and stayed with him fifteen days." (Galatians 1:18)
> <rest snipped because it's just more of the same accursed false
> teaching>
It is clear that you are projecting your accursedness.
Here are the ABCs of salvation through faith in LORD Jesus Christ:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating to give
you extra time to understand and act on this, dear neighbor Phelps whom
I love unconditionally
Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> > > God does not require "proof" of Himself. (2 Corinthians 5:7)
> >
> > Actually, it is the brethren of Christ who do not require proof:
> >
> > "We live by faith, not by sight." (2 Corinthians 5:7)
> >
> > Amen.
>
> And yet,
You have failed in your attempt to cover up your misinterpretation of 2
Corinthians 5:7.
This makes it obvious even to the most casual observer that you are
without the counsel of the Holy Spirit.
> you feel compelled to provide "Proof of GOD", thus further
> marginalizing those who are seeking Him.
GOD's purpose for me here on Usenet remains to inform and not to either
prove or convince. Indeed, the proof is coming from the participants
themselves and not from me.
> > In truth, GOD has the infinite free will to provide proof as HE did
> > when HE offered the holes in HIS hands and the hole in HIS side to
> > Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas to prove that HE is indeed our
> > risen LORD Jesus Christ.
> >
> > "My LORD **and** my GOD ! " -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas
> > upon seeing the risen Christ Jesus.
>
> So, Thomas was just an archetype in your opinion.
No. Thomas served as more than an archetype.
> Please support this from the Word of the Living God.
Your not being able to find this quote by Thomas is consistent with
your unregenerate condition.
> Otherwise...
>
> You are warmly invited to shed your pretentious and self-righteous
> pseudo-intellectual spiritism, and replace it with a vibrant
> relationship with Jesus Christ.
There is no vibrant relationship with LORD Jesus Christ if you keep
your lamp covered as you have been doing.
> > "Blessed are those who believe without proof." -- Holy Spirit.
Amen !
> Again, Dr. Chung twists the Word of the Living God to suit his own
> rebellious purposes. Here is what the Spirit-inspired Word of God
> actually says: "Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you
> have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have
> believed." (John 20:29).
It seems you have confused me with the Holy Spirit.
I am not the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is GOD.
> >
> > Amen !
> >
> > Laus Deo ! ! !
> >
> > > You are warmly invited to repent, and accept the gentle yoke of Jesus's
> > > Lordship on your confused and meandering life.
> >
> > It remains my choice to stay by HIS side in my continued ever closer
> > walk with LORD Jesus Christ and refuse your broad and wayward
> > meandering path away from HIM:
Link restored:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
> At least now you have finally shown your honest desire to reject the
> Lordship of Christ Jesus.
Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> The Lord's invitation will only be extended
> to you for a short time, Andrew. You will only be allowed to refuse
> Him so many times.
It is clear that you serve the devil.
> Here it is again:
>
> You are warmly invited to accept the salvation and Lordship of Christ
> Jesus. The Holy Spirit compels me to beseech you to reconsider your
> refusal before it is everlastingly too late.
No one in the Holy Spirit would have misinterpreted Scripture as you
have done above with 2 Corinthians 5:7.
> > Fear GOD and dread nought:
<linked snipped by Phelps in a desperate act of cowardice>
Link restored:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
> "You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right!
> You are full of all kinds of DECEIT and TRICKERY. Will you never stop
> perverting the right ways of the Lord?" (Acts 13:10)
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you
to write that part of Scripture which condemns you.
Laus Deo ! !
You remain vanquished:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4d04785e363d17e2?
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Phelps whom
I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
> <rest snipped by mwphelps in order to highlight Andrew's deceit and
> trickery>
Nothingness simply highlights nothingness.
In truth, the links highlighted your wickedness.
You remind me of ex-pastor Dan Barker:
Correct - you are a nut.
>Moreover, what the Delusions have
> guided me to write is simply an understanding of Mark 11:<snip>, 20.
> Such an understanding does not make a religion even if you choose to
> call it animism.
You may as well worship snakes and cows and such for all the help it will
give your failing mind.
<snip>
You know nothing Clank, and your continued postings confirm this.
>>>>> Those who are without eternal life through faith in LORD Jesus Christ
>>>>> fear death.
>>>>>
>>>>> Serving on the USS Texas during WWII was billed as certain death.
>>>> Serving on any ship during WWII was dangerous - the USS Texas was no
>>>> exception.
>>> None expected the USS Texas being a large and slow converted
>>> coal-burner to return from WWII. However, it was expected that the
>>> newer faster ships would return. Non-christians took their chances
>>> elsewhere not believing that there is no such thing as chance (Proverbs
>>> 16:33).
>> Where do you get these ideas?
>
>>From a friend who served on her from 1944-1945.
>
What a ridiculous statement. The USS Texas was not slow, and it was
not billed as certain death any more than other ships of the era were.
She was a wonderful example of the Battleship.
>> I had a long career in the Navy Ching,
>> which is something you did not have.
>
> Not relevant to this discussion if your service was not on the USS
> Texas during WWII.
>
My sources are much more relevant than those of a kOOk spouting quack.
>> Do not presume to know what happened or did not happen.
>
> I trust my source than I trust someone lost like you. Sorry. Please
> forgive all my iniquities.
>
No.
> Hint: Your racially disparaging alterations in my name do not add to
> your credibility and reveals who is really the bigot here.
>
Sorry you feel insulted by what I have written. Please forgive all my
iniquities, Click. I am not bigoted against any nationality, but I am
bigoted against liars and fools who will not learn.
>>>>> Only those with the assurance of eternal life through faith in LORD
>>>>> Jesus Christ have the courage to make the supreme sacrifice of giving
>>>>> up their lives for the sake of others.
>>>> I have news for you Ching. Many brave men and women made the ultimate
>>>> sacrifice during wartime, on all sides, and not all were Christian.
>>>> Bravery is not restricted to Christians or any other particular religion.
>>> Bravery of the kind exhibited by the crew of the USS Texas is the same
>>> kind of bravery seen in the Amish schoolgirls who recently gave up
>>> their lives for their classmates:
>> Don't try and confuse the issue by lumping sailors on the USS Texas with
>> Amish schoolgirls Ching.
>
> They have a Source in common... the Holy Spirit.
>
You seem determined to draw the Amish into your little game Clank,
whilst ignoring brave sailors, soldiers and airman who were NOT
Christians. You also seem determined to ignore the death of devout
Christians from many other nationalities during all wars.
>>> "Shoot me first and spare the others." -- Amish school girl walking up
>>> boldly to the heavily armed gunman who had barricaded himself in their
>>> school.
>>>
>>> This kind of bravery comes only from the Holy Spirit, Who resides
>>> exclusively in born-again Christians that have GOD's love in their
>>> hearts and know that they have life everlasting in LORD Jesus Christ.
>> That is an odd statement. You consider the Amish to be "born again"
>> Christians do you?
>
> There are those among the Amish who are indeed reborn of living water
> and the Holy Spirit as Jesus described to Nicodemus.
>
>>>>>> Most of the people who died in WWII were Christians
>>>>> Untrue. Most who died were non-christians.
>>>> **Rubbish**
>
> **emphasis** added.
>
>>> The truth is amazing.
>>>
>>> It seems you would deny the WWII Holocaust. There were many millions
>>> of non-christian Jews who died in WWII.
>> Do you have a reading disability?
>
> No.
>
>> Where did I deny the Holocaust.
>
> See **emphasis** above which was your response to the fact:
>
> "Most who died were non-christians."
>
> This fact relies heavily on the fact that millions of non-christian
> Jews died in WWII.
>
As did many Christians in Europe, Russia, Africa, the Pacific, New
Guinea and many other places.
How about 20 million in Soviet Russia, Crank? You seem to deny that
the majority of them were Christian.
How about 4,500,000 including 1,000,000 civilians in Germany (many of
whom were Christian)
How about 3-400,000 losses in each army of Hungary, Poland and Romania,
many of whom were Christian.
How about 500,000 casualties, half of them civilians in France, many of
whom were Christian.
>> I
>> clearly wrote that one did not have to be a Christian to survive, and
>> one did not have to be anything else in particular to die. Jews,
>> Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, Atheists, Buddhists and everyone in
>> between perished. Courage was not restricted to any one race or creed
>> Clunk, which is why your statements have made yourself into a laughing
>> stock.
>
> See above.
>
No you ignorant person, you see above.
>>>>>> , so why did this guy get a pass and all those other good
>>>>>> churchgoers not?
>>>>> The rest of the crew of the DreadNought except for one was also spared
>>>>> during WWII.
>>>> Meanwhile Christians were killed in other battles, on other ships, in
>>>> other campaigns. One did not have to be a Christian to survive war, and
>>>> one did not have to be an Atheist or a Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu et
>>>> al to die.
>>> See above.
>>>
>>>> You insult the memories of good men and women over the whole world with
>>>> such words.
>>> Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>> No Clank, it is your opinion which is totally meaningless (Oldus Fartus).
>
> Oldus Fartus remains vanquished as a credible source:
>
The vanquished one is you Kronk.
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/02dd5c15e9e3e709?
>
>> You insulted the memories of brave individuals right around the world
>> suggesting that only Christians can be brave or do their duty.
>
> Sorry you feel insulted by what I have written. Please forgive all my
> iniquities.
>
No, because you insulted brave people right over the world.
> May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you choose to curse
> HIM, dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
>
Keep your prayers to yourself Krank.
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Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >>>>> Those who are without eternal life through faith in LORD Jesus Christ
> >>>>> fear death.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Serving on the USS Texas during WWII was billed as certain death.
> >>>> Serving on any ship during WWII was dangerous - the USS Texas was no
> >>>> exception.
> >>> None expected the USS Texas being a large and slow converted
> >>> coal-burner to return from WWII. However, it was expected that the
> >>> newer faster ships would return. Non-christians took their chances
> >>> elsewhere not believing that there is no such thing as chance (Proverbs
> >>> 16:33).
> >> Where do you get these ideas?
> >
> >>From a friend who served on her from 1944-1945.
>
> What a ridiculous statement.
Simply the truth.
> The USS Texas was not slow
Her hull design predated the advent of torpedoes. She was not designed
with either the speed or manuveurability to escape them.
> , and it was
> not billed as certain death any more than other ships of the era were.
It remains documented that the USS Texas was not expected to return
from Normandy.
> She was a wonderful example of the Battleship.
It remains documented that the USS Texas was considered to be obsolete
when she was sent to Normandy.
> >> I had a long career in the Navy Ching,
> >> which is something you did not have.
> >
> > Not relevant to this discussion if your service was not on the USS
> > Texas during WWII.
>
> My sources are much more relevant than those of a kOOk spouting quack.
Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
> >> Do not presume to know what happened or did not happen.
> >
> > I trust my source than I trust someone lost like you. Sorry. Please
> > forgive all my iniquities.
>
> No.
Then don't expect GOD to forgive you for all your iniquities.
> > Hint: Your racially disparaging alterations in my name do not add to
> > your credibility and reveals who is really the bigot here.
>
> Sorry you feel insulted by what I have written.
Actually, I don't.
> Please forgive all my
> iniquities, Click.
You are forgive as far as I am concerned.
> I am not bigoted against any nationality, but I am
> bigoted against liars and fools who will not learn.
And, so you will be judged by your own measure (Matthew 7:1-2).
> >>>>> Only those with the assurance of eternal life through faith in LORD
> >>>>> Jesus Christ have the courage to make the supreme sacrifice of giving
> >>>>> up their lives for the sake of others.
>
> >>>> I have news for you Ching. Many brave men and women made the ultimate
> >>>> sacrifice during wartime, on all sides, and not all were Christian.
> >>>> Bravery is not restricted to Christians or any other particular religion.
> >>> Bravery of the kind exhibited by the crew of the USS Texas is the same
> >>> kind of bravery seen in the Amish schoolgirls who recently gave up
> >>> their lives for their classmates:
> >> Don't try and confuse the issue by lumping sailors on the USS Texas with
> >> Amish schoolgirls Ching.
> >
> > They have a Source in common... the Holy Spirit.
>
> You seem determined to draw the Amish into your little game Clank,
> whilst ignoring brave sailors, soldiers and airman who were NOT
> Christians.
This is not a game for me.
> You also seem determined to ignore the death of devout
> Christians from many other nationalities during all wars.
Actually, in Christ, no one dies.
Again, in Christ, no one dies.
> How about 20 million in Soviet Russia, Crank? You seem to deny that
> the majority of them were Christian.
Again, in Christ, no one dies.
> How about 4,500,000 including 1,000,000 civilians in Germany (many of
> whom were Christian)
Ditto.
> How about 3-400,000 losses in each army of Hungary, Poland and Romania,
> many of whom were Christian.
Ditto.
> How about 500,000 casualties, half of them civilians in France, many of
> whom were Christian.
Ditto.
> >> I
> >> clearly wrote that one did not have to be a Christian to survive, and
> >> one did not have to be anything else in particular to die. Jews,
> >> Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, Atheists, Buddhists and everyone in
> >> between perished. Courage was not restricted to any one race or creed
> >> Clunk, which is why your statements have made yourself into a laughing
> >> stock.
> >
> > See above.
>
> No you ignorant person, you see above.
I have.
> >>>>>> , so why did this guy get a pass and all those other good
> >>>>>> churchgoers not?
> >>>>> The rest of the crew of the DreadNought except for one was also spared
> >>>>> during WWII.
> >>>> Meanwhile Christians were killed in other battles, on other ships, in
> >>>> other campaigns. One did not have to be a Christian to survive war, and
> >>>> one did not have to be an Atheist or a Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu et
> >>>> al to die.
> >>> See above.
> >>>
> >>>> You insult the memories of good men and women over the whole world with
> >>>> such words.
> >>> Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >> No Clank, it is your opinion which is totally meaningless (Oldus Fartus).
> >
> > Oldus Fartus remains vanquished as a credible source:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/02dd5c15e9e3e709?
>
> The vanquished one is you Kronk.
It remains my choice to neither draw nor brandish the sword that my
LORD would have me bear. So you will not find me among "those who live
by the sword."
> >> You insulted the memories of brave individuals right around the world
> >> suggesting that only Christians can be brave or do their duty.
> >
> > Sorry you feel insulted by what I have written. Please forgive all my
> > iniquities.
>
> No, because you insulted brave people right over the world.
You don't write for the brave people in this world.
> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you choose to curse
> > HIM, dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Keep your prayers to yourself Krank.
Sorry my prayers bother you. Please reconsider forgiving me for all of
my iniquities, for your own sake:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating (unless
you curse HIM) to give you the extra precious time you need to help you
understand and act on this, dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
snipped only senseless words.
Naval History lesson Clink.
Lets see - A Mr Whitehead demonstrated a torpedo to the Austrian Navy in
1868, who were so impressed they bought some. (As an aside the
Austrians tried to buy the patent, but were unable to.) The Royal Navy
invited Whitehead to demonstrate them, and as a result of successful
test firings, ordered delivery for 1870. To cut a long story short, by
the 1880's, most Navies in the world were using torpedoes and these had
steadily improved with more efficient propulsion and navigation systems.
By the beginning of WWI speeds had increased to over 49 knots, range
up to 4,000 yards and warheads of over 200 lbs. Any warship designed
from about 1880 onwards, was well and truly designed with an awareness
of the dangers faced from torpedoes. To suggest otherwise is to show a
complete ignorance of naval history.
As far as speed goes, the New York class (USS New York and USS Texas)
were capable of about 21 knots, and these speeds were pretty typical up
until WWII when the North Carolina class were built (27 knots). The
South Dakota class speeds were similar but the Iowa class increased that
to 33 knots. (Commissioned 1943 and 1944). The earlier speeds were
nowhere near that of Destroyers and Cruisers, but considering the
armament and range of the BB's weapons the main danger was considered to
come from submarines. (The U-boat submerged speeds were only about 13
knots though.)
Back to the point in hand though, was the battleship considered to be a
more dangerous posting in wartime? No, it was not. All postings were
dangerous, but probably the submarine was considered the worst.
Your final lesson Crunk.
HYPOCRITE a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious
beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess,
esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
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If they were truly senseless, you would not have snipped them.
Truth is simple.
> Naval History lesson Clink.
Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
> Lets see - A Mr Whitehead demonstrated a torpedo to the Austrian Navy in
> 1868, who were so impressed they bought some. (As an aside the
> Austrians tried to buy the patent, but were unable to.) The Royal Navy
> invited Whitehead to demonstrate them, and as a result of successful
> test firings, ordered delivery for 1870. To cut a long story short, by
> the 1880's, most Navies in the world were using torpedoes and these had
> steadily improved with more efficient propulsion and navigation systems.
> By the beginning of WWI speeds had increased to over 49 knots, range
> up to 4,000 yards and warheads of over 200 lbs. Any warship designed
> from about 1880 onwards, was well and truly designed with an awareness
> of the dangers faced from torpedoes. To suggest otherwise is to show a
> complete ignorance of naval history.
The advent (utility of) torpedoes was not realized until Nazi U-boats
showed the world how to use them with devastating effect.
> As far as speed goes, the New York class (USS New York and USS Texas)
> were capable of about 21 knots, and these speeds were pretty typical up
> until WWII when the North Carolina class were built (27 knots).
21 knots means the USS Texas was a sitting duck versus torpedoes coming
from the infamous Nazi U-boats that prowled the waters surrounding
Europe during WWII.
> The
> South Dakota class speeds were similar but the Iowa class increased that
> to 33 knots. (Commissioned 1943 and 1944). The earlier speeds were
> nowhere near that of Destroyers and Cruisers, but considering the
> armament and range of the BB's weapons the main danger was considered to
> come from submarines. (The U-boat submerged speeds were only about 13
> knots though.)
The concern was about the torpedoes coming from these Nazi U-boats and
not about being rammed by a U-boat.
> Back to the point in hand though, was the battleship considered to be a
> more dangerous posting in wartime? No, it was not. All postings were
> dangerous, but probably the submarine was considered the worst.
You would rewrite history.
> Your final lesson Crunk.
Again, name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost.
> HYPOCRITE a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious
> beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess,
> esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
Pretending is not my style:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose to curse
GOD), dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
Gee, Andy, several people have deliberately gone out of their way to
curse your "god" in every possible manner they could think of, and yet
not ONE has died. That leads to only two possibilities; you're lying,
or your "god" doesn't exist. Or both, of course.
So far, I have not seen anything that one would truthfully regard as
cursing GOD.
Writing that one has cursed GOD is not the same as doing it.
Meanwhile, you remain vanquished:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/56e95effb7b5337a?
Fear GOD and dread nought:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose to curse
HIM) dear neighbor JessHC whom I love unconditionally.
> Fear GOD and dread nought:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
>
> Please pray for those whom the Holy Spirit has convicted:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Goddammit, why aren't I on the list??? I *always* get left off! I'm
as damned as anybody here, dammit! ;->
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
You should be able to figure this out after thinking about what each
has in common with the other.
> I *always* get left off! I'm as damned as anybody here, dammit! ;->
It would be wiser for you to be on the list kept by the Lamb in HIS
book of life:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose to curse
HIM) dear neighbor Brenda whom I love unconditionally.
Get a grip, Chung. There is no such thing as god. All gods are
fantasies, including *YOURS*.
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
>
> May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose to curse
> HIM) dear neighbor Brenda whom I love unconditionally.
Oh, please. You love nothing but your own delusions.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
If that were true, you would have witnessed someone somewhere in this
sizeable thread cursing GOD.
> All gods are fantasies, including *YOURS*.
Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
> >
> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose to curse
> > HIM) dear neighbor Brenda whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Oh, please. You love nothing but your own delusions.
Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
To live a more meaningful and purposeful life that is eternal simply
place your faith in LORD Jesus Christ:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD in HIS infinite grace and mercy keep your heart beating (unless
you choose to curse HIM) to give you precious extra time to understand
and act on this, dear neighbor Brenda whom I love unconditionally.
>skyeyes wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > skyeyes wrote:
>> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Fear GOD and dread nought:
>> > > >
>> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/352546a7bf4a81ee?
>> > > >
>> > > > Please pray for those whom the Holy Spirit has convicted:
>> > > >
>> > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>> > >
>> > > Goddammit, why aren't I on the list???
>> >
>> > You should be able to figure this out after thinking about what each
>> > has in common with the other.
>> >
>> > > I *always* get left off! I'm as damned as anybody here, dammit! ;->
>> >
>> > It would be wiser for you to be on the list kept by the Lamb in HIS
>> > book of life:
>>
>> Get a grip, Chung. There is no such thing as god.
>
>If that were true, you would have witnessed someone somewhere in this
>sizeable thread cursing GOD.
Fuck your GOD, fuck Jesus, and fuck the Holy Spirit.
You lose.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
> Fuck your GOD, fuck Jesus, and fuck the Holy Spirit.
>
> You lose.
why raven
youre beautiful when youre angry
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
>In article <c862l2dt4kcgf4uge...@4ax.com>,
> raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>> Fuck your GOD, fuck Jesus, and fuck the Holy Spirit.
>>
>> You lose.
>
>why raven
>youre beautiful when youre angry
Who's angry? Bemused would be closer.
Dream on McDuff.
> Truth is simple.
>
It is isn't it?
>> Naval History lesson Clink.
>
> Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost:
>
Sorry Clunk, hard to help myself when confronted by one who would
rewrite history.
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
>
Mmm. No comment.
>> Lets see - A Mr Whitehead demonstrated a torpedo to the Austrian Navy in
>> 1868, who were so impressed they bought some. (As an aside the
>> Austrians tried to buy the patent, but were unable to.) The Royal Navy
>> invited Whitehead to demonstrate them, and as a result of successful
>> test firings, ordered delivery for 1870. To cut a long story short, by
>> the 1880's, most Navies in the world were using torpedoes and these had
>> steadily improved with more efficient propulsion and navigation systems.
>> By the beginning of WWI speeds had increased to over 49 knots, range
>> up to 4,000 yards and warheads of over 200 lbs. Any warship designed
>> from about 1880 onwards, was well and truly designed with an awareness
>> of the dangers faced from torpedoes. To suggest otherwise is to show a
>> complete ignorance of naval history.
>
> The advent (utility of) torpedoes was not realized until Nazi U-boats
> showed the world how to use them with devastating effect.
>
Rubbish. http://www.btinternet.com/~philipr/torps.htm
>> As far as speed goes, the New York class (USS New York and USS Texas)
>> were capable of about 21 knots, and these speeds were pretty typical up
>> until WWII when the North Carolina class were built (27 knots).
>
> 21 knots means the USS Texas was a sitting duck versus torpedoes coming
> from the infamous Nazi U-boats that prowled the waters surrounding
> Europe during WWII.
How many Battleships were sunk in WW2 by U-boats Clack? How many
Battleships were sunk by enemy fire in WW2? How many other USS ships
were sunk by enemy fire in WW2? If it makes it any easier for you, we
will define the war in US terms, having commenced when the first enemy
plane appeared over Hawaii.
http://www.usspennsylvania.com/NavalLosses.htm
>
>> The
>> South Dakota class speeds were similar but the Iowa class increased that
>> to 33 knots. (Commissioned 1943 and 1944). The earlier speeds were
>> nowhere near that of Destroyers and Cruisers, but considering the
>> armament and range of the BB's weapons the main danger was considered to
>> come from submarines. (The U-boat submerged speeds were only about 13
>> knots though.)
>
> The concern was about the torpedoes coming from these Nazi U-boats and
> not about being rammed by a U-boat.
>
>> Back to the point in hand though, was the battleship considered to be a
>> more dangerous posting in wartime? No, it was not. All postings were
>> dangerous, but probably the submarine was considered the worst.
>
> You would rewrite history.
No. Look at the link above Clank, what were the most dangerous
postings in the Navy in wartime?
>
>> Your final lesson Crunk.
>
> Again, name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost.
>
>> HYPOCRITE a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious
>> beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess,
>> esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
>
> Pretending is not my style:
>
It is exactly your style.
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Oldus Fartus
HYPOCRITE a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious
beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess
esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
(syn Andrew B. Clack)
Common sense.
> > Truth is simple.
>
> It is isn't it?
Yes.
> >> Naval History lesson Clink.
> >
> > Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
>
> Sorry Clunk, hard to help myself when confronted by one who would
> rewrite history.
I am not a holocaust denier.
> Mmm. No comment.
That is wise.
> >> Lets see - A Mr Whitehead demonstrated a torpedo to the Austrian Navy in
> >> 1868, who were so impressed they bought some. (As an aside the
> >> Austrians tried to buy the patent, but were unable to.) The Royal Navy
> >> invited Whitehead to demonstrate them, and as a result of successful
> >> test firings, ordered delivery for 1870. To cut a long story short, by
> >> the 1880's, most Navies in the world were using torpedoes and these had
> >> steadily improved with more efficient propulsion and navigation systems.
> >> By the beginning of WWI speeds had increased to over 49 knots, range
> >> up to 4,000 yards and warheads of over 200 lbs. Any warship designed
> >> from about 1880 onwards, was well and truly designed with an awareness
> >> of the dangers faced from torpedoes. To suggest otherwise is to show a
> >> complete ignorance of naval history.
> >
> > The advent (utility) of torpedoes was not realized until Nazi U-boats
> > showed the world how to use them with devastating effect.
>
> Rubbish. http://www.btinternet.com/~philipr/torps.htm
Nothing in your source contradicts what I have written.
> >> As far as speed goes, the New York class (USS New York and USS Texas)
> >> were capable of about 21 knots, and these speeds were pretty typical up
> >> until WWII when the North Carolina class were built (27 knots).
> >
> > 21 knots means the USS Texas was a sitting duck versus torpedoes coming
> > from the infamous Nazi U-boats that prowled the waters surrounding
> > Europe during WWII.
>
> How many Battleships were sunk in WW2 by U-boats Clack?
None. This would to GOD's credit.
> How many
> Battleships were sunk by enemy fire in WW2?
Only two. This too would be to GOD's credit.
> How many other USS ships were sunk by enemy fire in WW2?
Too many.
> If it makes it any easier for you, we
> will define the war in US terms, having commenced when the first enemy
> plane appeared over Hawaii.
>
> http://www.usspennsylvania.com/NavalLosses.htm
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you
to post a link to something that makes the history of the USS Texas
that much more amazing.
Laus Deo !
> >> The
> >> South Dakota class speeds were similar but the Iowa class increased that
> >> to 33 knots. (Commissioned 1943 and 1944). The earlier speeds were
> >> nowhere near that of Destroyers and Cruisers, but considering the
> >> armament and range of the BB's weapons the main danger was considered to
> >> come from submarines. (The U-boat submerged speeds were only about 13
> >> knots though.)
> >
> > The concern was about the torpedoes coming from these Nazi U-boats and
> > not about being rammed by a U-boat.
> >
> >> Back to the point in hand though, was the battleship considered to be a
> >> more dangerous posting in wartime? No, it was not. All postings were
> >> dangerous, but probably the submarine was considered the worst.
> >
> > You would rewrite history.
>
> No. Look at the link above Clank, what were the most dangerous
> postings in the Navy in wartime?
The retrospective view was not available to the sailors for
consideration prospectively.
> >> Your final lesson Crunk.
> >
> > Again, name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost.
> >
> >> HYPOCRITE a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious
> >> beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess,
> >> esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
> >
> > Pretending is not my style:
>
> It is exactly your style.
Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> snipped spam and irrelevant links.
QED
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose to curse
GOD) dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
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Hail Eris! mhm 29x21; TM#5
Demon Lord of Confusion
COOSN-029-06-71069
Supreme High Overlord of rec.radio.*
Chuck Lysaght: Tarred & Feathered!
"Q: What do you call someone in the White House who is honest, caring,
and well-read?
A: A tourist." -- Anonymous
"It would be offly hard for any of you to abuse me on usenet. Really. I
have the advantage. I could easily turn alt.usenet.kooks into a cesspool
of encoded posts. Bringing the noise ratio up so high as to make the
group worthless. Anybody who can code could do this, why nobody has
bothered before now is beyond me. The ultimate spamming engine..
'BAWAHAHA'" -- Dustbin "Outer Filth" K00k's delusions of grandeur
reached new heights, in Message-ID:
<Xns98355D29419...@69.28.186.121>
"Immorality: The morality of those who are having a better time." -- H.
L. Mencken
"Consider that language a moment. 'Purposefully and materially
supported hostilities against the United States' is in the eye of the
beholder, and this administration has proven itself to be astonishingly
impatient with criticism of any kind. The broad powers given to Bush by
this legislation allow him to capture, indefinitely detain, and refuse a
hearing to any American citizen who speaks out against Iraq or any other
part of the so-called 'War on Terror.'
"If you write a letter to the editor attacking Bush, you could be
deemed as purposefully and materially supporting hostilities against the
United States. If you organize or join a public demonstration against
Iraq, or against the administration, the same designation could befall
you. One dark-comedy aspect of the legislation is that senators or House
members who publicly disagree with Bush, criticize him, or organize
investigations into his dealings could be placed under the same
designation. In effect, Congress just gave Bush the power to lock them
up." -- William Rivers Pitt
"It has become clear in recent months that a critical mass of the American
people have seen through the lies of the Bush administration; with the
president's polls at an historic low, growing resistance to the war Iraq,
and the Democrats likely to take back the Congress in mid-term elections,
the Bush administration is on the ropes. And so it is particularly
worrying that President Bush has seen fit, at this juncture to, in effect,
declare himself dictator." -- Frank Morales
http://www.uruknet.biz/?p=m27769&hd=0&size=1&l=e&fark
"No man in History, including JESUS CHRIST, has directly revealed to
the World the SATANIC WEAPON used to enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL
THOUGHT!!" -- Ray Karczewski repeatedly proves his words in every post
he makes
IAWTP! Fuck your stupid non-existent GOD and all those who worship it.
> Where's my bolt of lightning?
Where's _mine_?
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Hail Eris! mhm 29x21; TM#5; COOSN-029-06-71069
The God of Odd Statements, the Ugliest Pigfucker In The Universe
Stupidity Takes Its Toll. Please Have Exact Change.
If you never read anything else in any of my sigs, read this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15321167/
http://borealin.livejournal.com/15104.html
Or watch it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqxmPjB0WSs
Then, if you manage to read/watch all that, try this:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
And Molly Ivins had a few choice words to say about it, weeks before:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/092906B.shtml
Here's Chris Floyd: Fatal Vision: The Deeper Evil Behind the Detainee
Bill: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/100206A.shtml
"Q: What's the difference between the Vietnam War and the Iraq War?
A: George W. Bush had a plan to get out of the Vietnam War." -- Anon.
Thread where outing begins: http://tinyurl.com/hojf8
George Pickett Memorial Trophy, Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart,
and the Order of the Holey Sockpuppet winner <wfh...@hotmail.com> on
outing personal contact info in x-poasted subject lines:
"Plenty of people post under their real names and do not attempt to hide
their contact info. You are scared of being 'outed' because you are a
pathological abuser of usenet, and people rightly despise you for it.
You're afraid of being reported to the authorities or, better, visited
by a couple of guys with baseball bats. Other people don't have this
obsessive fear. Ward Hardman himself has posted plenty of personal
information - nothing that anyone else added was hidden in any way.
You're so fucking scared you've built up this whole sick mythology about
different categories of bad dudes who 'out' scum like you.
"Meanwhile you are the ugliest pigfucker in the universe. You are the
coward without ethics. You call me a 'newbie' - ha! what an asshole you
are. Those who want to remain anonymous do so. There is absolutely no
way you could identify me, not unless you had the sort of subpoena power
that only gets turned on for big-time terrorists. That's because I chose
to be anonymous. Some people don't. Only really stupid dicks like you
choose the sort of semi-anonymity which leaves you in constant fear.
"What a dickless wonder you are 'Snarky' you fat asshole."
-- in MID: <1156587081....@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>
"I am the only one who has outer filthed Ward" -- James C. "Crackhead"
Cracked voluntarily self-immolates, in MID:
1159678991.8...@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com
"When I told Abbie Hoffman that he was the first one who made me laugh
since Lenny Bruce died, Hoffman said, "Really? He was my god." The
combination of satirical irreverence and sense of justice that Bruce and
Hoffman shared was the real spirit behind the Yippies--a term I coined to
describe a phenomenon that already existed: an organic coalition of stoned
hippies and political activists who engaged in such actions as throwing
money on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, then explaining to
reporters the meaning of that symbolism. Folksinger Phil Ochs summed it
up: "A demonstration should turn you on, not turn you off." So when
journalists link the Yippies with misleading bedfellows, at best it's
careless shorthand; at worst it's deliberate demonization. Osama bin Laden
wanted an aircraft to crash into the Pentagon. Abbie Hoffman merely wanted
to levitate it." -- Paul Krassner, http://tinyurl.com/ehu3v
> On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:00:16 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten
> tomys des anges did most oddly state:
> > *nemo* wrote:
> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
> >>
> >> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating unless you curse HIM
> >>
> >> I curse "HIM" at this moment, Chunk. And I've posted it. I'll post
> >> again later, just to prove that you have no connection to reality.
> >>
> >> At all.
> >>
> >> Fuck you and the *GAWD!* you rode in on.
> >
> > whats assuming is you whine about how your beliefs dont get no respect
> > so you show your greater tolerance and humanity by respecting the
> > beliefs of others
>
> Chung isn't worthy of any more respect than he is receiving. Fuck him
> and the *GAWD!* he rode in on.
so its cool to attack a group of people just because you dont like one member?
Creative editing eh Crunk?
>>>> Lets see - A Mr Whitehead demonstrated a torpedo to the Austrian Navy in
>>>> 1868, who were so impressed they bought some. (As an aside the
>>>> Austrians tried to buy the patent, but were unable to.) The Royal Navy
>>>> invited Whitehead to demonstrate them, and as a result of successful
>>>> test firings, ordered delivery for 1870. To cut a long story short, by
>>>> the 1880's, most Navies in the world were using torpedoes and these had
>>>> steadily improved with more efficient propulsion and navigation systems.
>>>> By the beginning of WWI speeds had increased to over 49 knots, range
>>>> up to 4,000 yards and warheads of over 200 lbs. Any warship designed
>>>> from about 1880 onwards, was well and truly designed with an awareness
>>>> of the dangers faced from torpedoes. To suggest otherwise is to show a
>>>> complete ignorance of naval history.
>>> The advent (utility) of torpedoes was not realized until Nazi U-boats
>>> showed the world how to use them with devastating effect.
>> Rubbish. http://www.btinternet.com/~philipr/torps.htm
>
> Nothing in your source contradicts what I have written.
>
We will leave that for others to decide Clunk - the link showed a fairly
exhaustive history of the torpedo, which makes your view fallacious.
>>>> As far as speed goes, the New York class (USS New York and USS Texas)
>>>> were capable of about 21 knots, and these speeds were pretty typical up
>>>> until WWII when the North Carolina class were built (27 knots).
>>> 21 knots means the USS Texas was a sitting duck versus torpedoes coming
>>> from the infamous Nazi U-boats that prowled the waters surrounding
>>> Europe during WWII.
>> How many Battleships were sunk in WW2 by U-boats Clack?
>
> None. This would to GOD's credit.
>
So the design, armor plating, and firepower had nothing to do with that eh?
>> How many
>> Battleships were sunk by enemy fire in WW2?
>
> Only two. This too would be to GOD's credit.
>
Mmm
>> How many other USS ships were sunk by enemy fire in WW2?
>
> Too many.
>
Just say you don't know, or are unable to read the given link. It is
no personal disgrace to have a reading disability. I will help you out
though.
US Navy losses WW2
Battleships 2 (Pearl Harbor)
Aircraft carriers 5
Escort aircraft carriers 6
Cruisers 10
Destroyers 71
Submarines 52
Can you explain why your God considered battleship crews to be more
worthy of protection that the crew of aircraft carriers, submariners or
other sailors?
>> If it makes it any easier for you, we
>> will define the war in US terms, having commenced when the first enemy
>> plane appeared over Hawaii.
>>
>> http://www.usspennsylvania.com/NavalLosses.htm
>
> Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you
> to post a link to something that makes the history of the USS Texas
> that much more amazing.
>
There is that reading disability again Clank.
> Laus Deo !
>
>>>> The
>>>> South Dakota class speeds were similar but the Iowa class increased that
>>>> to 33 knots. (Commissioned 1943 and 1944). The earlier speeds were
>>>> nowhere near that of Destroyers and Cruisers, but considering the
>>>> armament and range of the BB's weapons the main danger was considered to
>>>> come from submarines. (The U-boat submerged speeds were only about 13
>>>> knots though.)
>>> The concern was about the torpedoes coming from these Nazi U-boats and
>>> not about being rammed by a U-boat.
>>>
>>>> Back to the point in hand though, was the battleship considered to be a
>>>> more dangerous posting in wartime? No, it was not. All postings were
>>>> dangerous, but probably the submarine was considered the worst.
>>> You would rewrite history.
>> No. Look at the link above Clank, what were the most dangerous
>> postings in the Navy in wartime?
>
> The retrospective view was not available to the sailors for
> consideration prospectively.
>
Clutching at straws now Crack.
>>>> Your final lesson Crunk.
>>> Again, name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost.
>>>
>>>> HYPOCRITE a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious
>>>> beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess,
>>>> esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
>>> Pretending is not my style:
>> It is exactly your style.
>
> Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>
Without commonsense your fantasies are meaningless (Oldus Fartus)
>> snipped spam and irrelevant links.
>
> QED
>
> May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose to curse
> GOD) dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
>
Why don't you just admit you are a hypocrite. Save your love for others
Clack.
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
--
With Contempt
Oldus Fartus
Andrew.B. Chung (HYPOCRITE): a person who pretends to have virtues,
moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he does not actually
possess, a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
Apparently, you have to "curse God", but I haven't quite figured out
what he means by that. Yet. Hmmmmmmmmm. Maybe he means literally. Okay,
then.
I curse God.
There.
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Hail Eris!
Demon Prince of Absurdity
"And no, I did not have sex with my son. But if I did I certainly
wouldn't tell you. Something so beautiful and precious should be kept
private." -- Kathy L. Mosesian, or possibly not really her, confesses
she may be a liar and committer of incest with her own son, in MID:
<cfcd3f4660694e3a...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>
The reporter asked Colin Powell (or George Bush), "What proof do you
have that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?"
He replied, "We kept the receipts." -- Bill Hicks
"They thought I was fair game. I was an instrument of purpose to achieve
their desires and not 100 percent real and ALSO that they had me by the
short curlies because I thought that the world revolved around them and
therefore I think that I am fair game and rightly so. If they want to
play dirty, I get to too. It's not a one-way street. I will use the
physcial strength that I have over them, my superior 5'7-3/4" height
advantage, the boxing moves I paid to learn, the suprise of pussyfooting
up to them with their back to me in a public place 18 1/2 years after
the fact and thus not only do will they not know that I am but a pica's
distance away from them, but that I even exist on earth." -- Chris Tsao
is secretly John Wentzky's psychic twin. MID:
<1161246083.1...@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
Looney Maroon nominee for August 2006 Johnny D Wentzky foamed:
"You never asked someone who goes into areas of the internet that are
only for adults who has an underage id somehow or another if they are a
cop posing as an underage person online?
I guess lots of people just don't watch dateline or read stories much.
Why don;t you go to pervertedjustice,com and see what they do. They are
awash in their self-proclaimed glory after they lied to membners of the
public.
They are awash in their self-proclaimed glory after they posed as an
underage person and agreed to do all sorts of sex acts wioth adult
males, and they are adults posing as teenager themselves. They make
themsleves into liars by falsely impersonating underage persons and by
not fuilfilling the words they tell the victims online in their chats.
Why don't you read it where they tell these victims of their deceit
about how they have been with grown men and such? Why don't you read it
where they say, "That would be cool." after someone makes an advance
towards an adult who is posing as a teenager? And, where they agree to
meet the person, etc.
Lost control, didn't you?
Is that why you feel as if you need to lie so much now? I see where lots
of these false impersonation games are not sticking. They feel as if
they can lie and then order the victims to get counseling in the
gayblade, governmental, pro-choice tax leech counseling centers. They
are doing nothing more than usury and fraud in many cases." -- Wentzky
almost comes out of the closet as a pedo/ephebophile in MID:
<H%%Eg.28916$Uq1....@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
Why is everything non-existent to you?
That was an odd statement, coming from you.
Try curse me.
Simply preserving the integrity of the use of ":"
> >>>> Lets see - A Mr Whitehead demonstrated a torpedo to the Austrian Navy in
> >>>> 1868, who were so impressed they bought some. (As an aside the
> >>>> Austrians tried to buy the patent, but were unable to.) The Royal Navy
> >>>> invited Whitehead to demonstrate them, and as a result of successful
> >>>> test firings, ordered delivery for 1870. To cut a long story short, by
> >>>> the 1880's, most Navies in the world were using torpedoes and these had
> >>>> steadily improved with more efficient propulsion and navigation systems.
> >>>> By the beginning of WWI speeds had increased to over 49 knots, range
> >>>> up to 4,000 yards and warheads of over 200 lbs. Any warship designed
> >>>> from about 1880 onwards, was well and truly designed with an awareness
> >>>> of the dangers faced from torpedoes. To suggest otherwise is to show a
> >>>> complete ignorance of naval history.
> >>> The advent (utility) of torpedoes was not realized until Nazi U-boats
> >>> showed the world how to use them with devastating effect.
> >>
> >> Rubbish. http://www.btinternet.com/~philipr/torps.htm
> >
> > Nothing in your source contradicts what I have written.
>
> We will leave that for others to decide Clunk - the link showed a fairly
> exhaustive history of the torpedo, which makes your view fallacious.
Actually, your source revealed that artillery was indeed favored over
torpedoes until U-boats became advanced enough to conduct effective
warfare.
> >>>> As far as speed goes, the New York class (USS New York and USS Texas)
> >>>> were capable of about 21 knots, and these speeds were pretty typical up
> >>>> until WWII when the North Carolina class were built (27 knots).
> >>> 21 knots means the USS Texas was a sitting duck versus torpedoes coming
> >>> from the infamous Nazi U-boats that prowled the waters surrounding
> >>> Europe during WWII.
> >>
> >> How many Battleships were sunk in WW2 by U-boats Clack?
> >
> > None. This would to GOD's credit.
>
> So the design, armor plating, and firepower had nothing to do with that eh?
Those things offered no protection against torpedoes from U-boats.
> >> How many
> >> Battleships were sunk by enemy fire in WW2?
> >
> > Only two. This too would be to GOD's credit.
>
> Mmm
>
> >> How many other USS ships were sunk by enemy fire in WW2?
> >
> > Too many.
>
> Just say you don't know, or are unable to read the given link. It is
> no personal disgrace to have a reading disability. I will help you out
> though.
>
> US Navy losses WW2
> Battleships 2 (Pearl Harbor)
> Aircraft carriers 5
> Escort aircraft carriers 6
> Cruisers 10
> Destroyers 71
> Submarines 52
>
> Can you explain why your God considered battleship crews to be more
> worthy of protection that the crew of aircraft carriers, submariners or
> other sailors?
The "Fear GOD and dread nought" concept of the DreadNoughts appealed to
Christians so that the crews of the DreadNoughts comprised more largely
of Christians.
> >> If it makes it any easier for you, we
> >> will define the war in US terms, having commenced when the first enemy
> >> plane appeared over Hawaii.
> >>
> >> http://www.usspennsylvania.com/NavalLosses.htm
> >
> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you
> > to post a link to something that makes the history of the USS Texas
> > that much more amazing.
>
> There is that reading disability again Clank.
You are projecting.
> > Laus Deo !
> >
> >>>> The
> >>>> South Dakota class speeds were similar but the Iowa class increased that
> >>>> to 33 knots. (Commissioned 1943 and 1944). The earlier speeds were
> >>>> nowhere near that of Destroyers and Cruisers, but considering the
> >>>> armament and range of the BB's weapons the main danger was considered to
> >>>> come from submarines. (The U-boat submerged speeds were only about 13
> >>>> knots though.)
> >>> The concern was about the torpedoes coming from these Nazi U-boats and
> >>> not about being rammed by a U-boat.
> >>>
> >>>> Back to the point in hand though, was the battleship considered to be a
> >>>> more dangerous posting in wartime? No, it was not. All postings were
> >>>> dangerous, but probably the submarine was considered the worst.
> >>> You would rewrite history.
> >> No. Look at the link above Clank, what were the most dangerous
> >> postings in the Navy in wartime?
> >
> > The retrospective view was not available to the sailors for
> > consideration prospectively.
>
> Clutching at straws now Crack.
Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless.
> >>>> Your final lesson Crunk.
> >>>
> >>> Again, name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost.
> >>>
> >>>> HYPOCRITE a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious
> >>>> beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess,
> >>>> esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
> >>>
> >>> Pretending is not my style:
> >>
> >> It is exactly your style.
> >
> > Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>
> Without commonsense your fantasies are meaningless (Oldus Fartus)
Those who are vanquished have no credibility:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/02dd5c15e9e3e709?
> >> snipped spam and irrelevant links.
> >
> > QED
> >
> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose to curse
> > GOD) dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Why don't you just admit you are a hypocrite.
It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.
> Save your love for others
It remains my choice to be obedient to LORD Jesus Christ.
> Clack.
Again, name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose to curse
HIM) dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
> You lose.
You lose.