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peanut4040

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Jun 19, 2009, 12:16:26 AM6/19/09
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HEHEHEHE,,

NO freaking monitors over here with a SGM rating washing the colonels
car.

the unknown flailer

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Jun 28, 2009, 10:36:45 PM6/28/09
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The Military sure must have changed, 40 years ago any Sgt/Maj, Master
Chief or whatever worth his salt would have had PFC's or perhaps a
Corporal or buck sgt at the most out there seeing about that vehicle,
they would have went out and rounded up a working party or yard birds
to do the actual work while they stood in the shade discussing how
chicken shit the green machine and its Sgt/Majs were while supervising
the privates. ;)

peanut4040

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Jul 7, 2009, 11:04:57 PM7/7/09
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> The Military sure must have changed, 40 years ago any Sgt/Maj, Master
> Chief or whatever worth his salt would have had PFC's or perhaps a
> Corporal or buck sgt at the most out there seeing about that vehicle,
> they would have went out and rounded up a working party or yard birds
> to do the actual work while they stood in the shade discussing how
> chicken shit the green machine and its Sgt/Majs were while supervising
> the privates. ;)

oh welll,,,

the unknown flailer

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Jul 8, 2009, 1:36:38 AM7/8/09
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How sweet it is 0~;->

peanut4040

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Jul 21, 2009, 9:36:31 PM7/21/09
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On Jun 18, 11:16�pm, peanut4040 <peanut4...@aol.com> wrote:

Pappy, how you been doing? I had a "rough" come back into the
states. Two things on a mans mind, get drunk, and get laid. IN that
order. Well, i kinda overdid it on both counts. I finally got rid
of the women, and for some reason, a 12 pack of beer lasts over a
month in my fridge.... go figure?

However things are finally mellowing out for me now. I"m going to re-
stock the bar soon. Now that I know it will stay filled. Getting
back in the farm work. I have much fence still left to do. I got
all the vehicles running so I"m an upper class redneck, not a one with
them on the blocks.. This includes, 3 trucks, one bronco, two
motorcycles, and a brand new zero turn lawn machine.... Damn I like
mowing yards now.

the unknown flailer

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Jul 22, 2009, 5:33:21 AM7/22/09
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peanut4040 wrote:
> On Jun 18, 11:16�pm, peanut4040 <peanut4...@aol.com> wrote:
> > HEHEHEHE,,
> >
> > NO �freaking monitors over here with a SGM rating washing the colonels
> > car.
>
> Pappy, how you been doing?

I'm O.K its been quite on wreck since I kicked Jerry-girl out of her
snotty attitude


I had a "rough" come back into the
> states. Two things on a mans mind, get drunk, and get laid. IN that
> order. Well, i kinda overdid it on both counts. I finally got rid
> of the women, and for some reason, a 12 pack of beer lasts over a
> month in my fridge.... go figure?
>
> However things are finally mellowing out for me now. I"m going to re-
> stock the bar soon. Now that I know it will stay filled. Getting
> back in the farm work. I have much fence still left to do. I got
> all the vehicles running so I"m an upper class redneck, not a one with
> them on the blocks.. This includes, 3 trucks, one bronco, two
> motorcycles, and a brand new zero turn lawn machine.... Damn I like
> mowing yards now.

Got rid of my Bronco, it was on its 2nd engine and not very fuel
effecent....
fuel efficiency is important when you are 8 or 9 miles out of town.

Jerry K.

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Jul 22, 2009, 4:50:14 PM7/22/09
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:33:21 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:

>
>
>peanut4040 wrote:


>> On Jun 18, 11:16?pm, peanut4040 <peanut4...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > HEHEHEHE,,
>> >

>> > NO ?freaking monitors over here with a SGM rating washing the colonels


>> > car.
>>
>> Pappy, how you been doing?
>
>I'm O.K its been quite on wreck since I kicked Jerry-girl out of her
>snotty attitude
>

In a pig's eye. Still getting it wrong, I see. And trolling. Lies
about formations you weren't actually on and years you weren't
actually in skydiving sure to be only a matter of time. Yo, Jinnie -
off to Lost Prairie, Montana for a week and change. Have a good time
not at the boogie and here on the newsgroup. Loser.

...bsrp
...jlk

the unknown flailer

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Jul 22, 2009, 7:34:18 PM7/22/09
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Hope you come back in a better mood ya booty wearing girly man 0~;)P

the unknown flailer

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Jul 22, 2009, 7:36:24 PM7/22/09
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Heh Heh Heh I still own the little bitch 0~;->

peanut4040

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Jul 23, 2009, 10:16:50 PM7/23/09
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> Heh Heh Heh I still own the little bitch �0~;->- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

YEAH I've got to admit that he seems to love ya pappy..

the unknown flailer

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Jul 24, 2009, 7:34:37 AM7/24/09
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I do seem to have a way with women and weak men. ;)

peanut4040

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Jul 27, 2009, 11:39:22 PM7/27/09
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>
> I do seem to have a way with women and weak men. ;)- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


yer a lucky man,, i seem to have a way with strong women. They say
bendoveri'llcary.

oh wait,, was that an ASC joke?

the unknown flailer

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Jul 28, 2009, 2:08:14 AM7/28/09
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If it wasn't so far and I was younger and in better shape I might
drive out to L.P. pitch a tent and coach the young pip squeak. If
nothing else I could set a manly man example for him and the need
booty's to skydive type fags he runs with
tsk tsk tsk I am appalled, pointy toed cowboy boots work just as well
and they have a side benefit of scaring the hell
out of neurotic types like JerryK on a load, might make him forget his
pin fixation...."DOOR" "My pin, my pin ....I think
my pin is loose or falling out!" World famous JerryK pee pee pre climb
out dance heh heh. Built in brain lock, anything I can do to help a
neurotic youngster with his or her emotions------>I lived for shit
like that! 0~;)

Jerry K.

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Aug 6, 2009, 5:12:41 PM8/6/09
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:34:37 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:

>
>
>peanut4040 wrote:


>> On Jul 22, 6:36?pm, the unknown flailer <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>> > Jerry K. wrote:
>> > > On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:33:21 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>> > > <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > >peanut4040 wrote:
>> > > >> On Jun 18, 11:16?pm, peanut4040 <peanut4...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > > >> > HEHEHEHE,,
>> >
>> > > >> > NO ?freaking monitors over here with a SGM rating washing the colonels
>> > > >> > car.
>> >
>> > > >> Pappy, how you been doing?
>> >
>> > > >I'm O.K its been quite on wreck since I kicked Jerry-girl out of her
>> > > >snotty attitude
>> >

>> > > In a pig's eye. ?Still getting it wrong, I see. ?And trolling. ?Lies


>> > > about formations you weren't actually on and years you weren't

>> > > actually in ?skydiving sure to be only a matter of time. ?Yo, Jinnie -
>> > > off to Lost Prairie, Montana for a week and change. ?Have a good time
>> > > not at the boogie and here on the newsgroup. ?Loser.
>> >
>> > > ...bsrp
>> > > ...jlk
>> >
>> > Heh Heh Heh I still own the little bitch ?0~;->- Hide quoted text -


>> >
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> YEAH I've got to admit that he seems to love ya pappy..
>
>I do seem to have a way with women and weak men. ;)

Iit does seem to be a weakness of yours, crying out for attention from
me, in here, when ignored long enough. Very weak. You have a good
time on this here electronic newsgroup while a whole bunch of
skydivers were whooping it up at Lost Prairie, Jinnie? Ever even been
to Lost Prairie, Jinnie?

...bsrp
...jlk

Jerry K.

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Aug 6, 2009, 5:12:53 PM8/6/09
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:08:14 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:

>On Jul 27, 10:39�pm, peanut4040 <peanut4...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > I do seem to have a way with women and weak men. ;)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> yer a lucky man,, i seem to have a way with strong women. �They say
>> bendoveri'llcary.
>>
>> oh wait,, was that an ASC joke?
>

>If I wasn't so fat headed and I was younger and in better shape I might


>drive out to L.P. pitch a tent and coach the young pip squeak.

And if monkeys were flying out of your ass you'd have like-minded
company, too. Excuses, excuses and cut the crap. You couldn't even
find Waller last time you tried to and you do have a habit of pleading
pauper when dared to come try your act live on simply a TEXAS dz. Make
it happen. That, or make with more excuses. All talk, no walk and
despite barely two years in the sport and a couple hundred jumps,
thinks he knows it all. Such don't last long in skydiving - they
never do.

>If
>nothing else I could set a manly man example for him and the need
>booty's to skydive type fags he runs with

No, quite literally, if in your own little as if fantasyland, you'd be
pegged as an object of ridicule and your crap would be called while
you wriggled some excuse or change of subject. A useless and
ill-equipped bag of wind. Somewhat similar to what goes on in here
except there you wouldn't have your little computer to hide behind.
Your line of crap could never stand the light of day, or reality.
Though, watching you try to land 3500 feet up would be quite the laugh
riot as it certainly was watching you faceplant ~over and over~ down
near sea level.

> tsk tsk tsk I am appalled, pointy toed cowboy boots work just as well
>and they have a side benefit of scaring the hell
>out of neurotic types like JerryK on a load,

Only thing that comes to mind considering you in cowboy boots is
P O S E R.

>might make him forget his
>pin fixation...."DOOR" "My pin, my pin ....I think
>my pin is loose or falling out!" World famous JerryK pee pee pre climb
>out dance heh heh.

Ya know, the Falcon is a favoruite canopy of many dropzones AFF
operations - docile and forgiving.

>Built in brain lock, anything I can do to help a
>neurotic youngster with his or her emotions------>I lived for shit
>like that! 0~;)

Sure beat skydiving, eh Jinnie?

...bsrp
...jlk

Jerry K.

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Aug 6, 2009, 5:13:01 PM8/6/09
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:36:24 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:

Sure, dumbass - <sacasm, dummy> like, if no one's responding it's
because you've "kicked" them "out" and if someone is, why, it's some
jackass notion of "owning." But then, the embarrassing truth is it is
you braying my name for attention - not the other way around. I leave
you alone and you start keening in High-C for me to stick it back in
ya. As regular as your monthly cramps.

...bsrp
...jlk

Jerry K.

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Aug 6, 2009, 5:13:12 PM8/6/09
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:34:18 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:

Shit, dummy - my mood's been great - I mean, not me who ever was so
down on himself he'd lie about his short time in skydiving and lie
about his sparsity of experience in skydiving, just to name but two of
very many examples where you've been caught gargling utter bullcrap
about yourself. So, right - as if you could "kick" anyone "out" of
anything, beyond your own little self-worship club - population you.
But, there is one exception - you did indeed manage to engineer your
own final and punctuated exit from skydiving, once upon a time. Leapt
before you looked and the rest is almost forgotten history - sometimes
related late at night around the bonfire as a warning to the rank
novices zooming past your low level of experience.

...bsrp
...jlk

the unknown flailer

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Aug 6, 2009, 5:53:46 PM8/6/09
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On Aug 6, 4:12 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:08:14 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
> >might make him forget his
> >pin fixation...."DOOR" "My pin, my pin ....I think
> >my pin is loose or falling out!" World famous JerryK pee pee pre climb
> >out dance heh heh.
>
> Ya know, the Falcon is a favoruite canopy of many dropzones AFF
> operations - docile and forgiving.
>
> >Built in brain lock, anything I can do to help a
> >neurotic youngster with his or her emotions------>I lived for shit
> >like that!  0~;)
>
> Sure beat skydiving, eh Jinnie?
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk

Cheaper but only half the fun, half of the sport to me was shaking the
vain punks used to playing DZ Politics
to get ahead, snot noses and general neurotics etc etc etc up.
The general rule in skydiving is like Grammar school playground rules
go along to get along, that allows you chiseling bottom feeders to
operate under the radar. BUT if I rattled their cage they flew
apart...showed their ass and it cost them points around the DZ every
time. Almost as much fun as jumping to me....A lot of people
appreciated it because I said things they were afraid to say---So I
was always welcome to jump base for people training, because they
don't like your type of snotty girl deep down plus your taking
customers and money away from them-------->To see a bootee queen brain
lock and blow a formation or shot because of my attention to their
lack of substance was a plus...I'd go out get 5 or 10 jumps in and get
my rocks off in more ways than one I never bothered the righteous
people, only the little bootee wearing phonies. To bad I had that
stroke---I might have had a influence on you and your chicken shit
bottom feeding ways----Its clear you need a big Daddy to teach you
right from wrong 0~;)P

Their was no coaching endorcement back then so I could always load the
otter with a load of newbies wanting to zoo around. Yeah I could have
made a man's man out of you ya whiny little slacker 0~;->

the unknown flailer

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Aug 6, 2009, 6:08:20 PM8/6/09
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On Aug 6, 4:12 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:34:37 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
>
>
>
>
> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Closest I've ever been was Whitefish Mont and Glacier National park
snowmobiling then on to Seattle. I wasn't big on boogies, did WFFC and
decided once was enough....Lost Prairie wasn't a big thing back
then....Plenty in Texas for me to do. Skydiving was turning a aircraft
availability corner---You didn't have to leave Texas to jump the
bigger aircraft and loads or get a 24/5 or two in. Hope everyone had
fun including you although you seem to stay so miserable I doubt you
can enjoy it like you could if you would just relax and not take shit
so personal----Just bend over and take it like the little queen you
are! heh heh ;)P

the unknown flailer

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Aug 6, 2009, 9:04:10 PM8/6/09
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On Jul 22, 3:50 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:33:21 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>
> >peanut4040 wrote:
> >> On Jun 18, 11:16?pm, peanut4040 <peanut4...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> > HEHEHEHE,,
>
> >> Pappy, how you been doing?
>
> >I'm O.K its been quite on wreck since I kicked Jerry-girl with her

> >snotty attitude
>
> In a pig's eye.  Still getting it wrong, I see.  And trolling.  
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk

Speaking of trolling, Camera people are a dime a dozen anymore, what
do you do if you can't get enough camera work to pay for your
trips....Throw in a blow job to beat the competition out? HAHAHAHAHAHA
Woo Woo--->Thats a for sure troll

Jerry K.

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Aug 7, 2009, 12:03:28 AM8/7/09
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Then, the answer is no you haven't and for that matter, nor will you
ever.

>I wasn't big on boogies, did WFFC and
>decided once was enough.
>...Lost Prairie wasn't a big thing back
>then.

Who says it's a big thing now?

>...Plenty in Texas for me to do. Skydiving was turning a aircraft
>availability corner---You didn't have to leave Texas to jump the
>bigger aircraft and loads or get a 24/5 or two in.

Not that you were getting "24/5''s or two" in, mind you.

>Hope everyone had
>fun including you although you seem to stay so miserable I doubt you
>can enjoy it like you could if you would just relax and not take shit
>so personal----Just bend over and take it like the little queen you
>are! heh heh ;)P

Shit, Jinnie (sorry, redendant, I know), not me getting all worked up
and trying to disregard getting nailed for getting shit wrong by
appending stupid adjectives in regards to a (mis)perceived "attitude"
because you ain't liking being told you're wrong - especially when you
are. So, you "kicked" me "out," eh? Oh, wait - no response is a
"kicking out" and any response means some sort of sign of "owning."
Sure beats jumping with friends at boogies, eh pork-pie? Tens of
thousands of skydivers out there, Jinnie - jumping and having a great
time of it. Not you. But, you got this electronic newsgroup as a
surrogate. Clutch it close.

...bsrp
...jlk

Jerry K.

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Aug 7, 2009, 12:44:13 AM8/7/09
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After the fact bullshit, of course. Shall I cite all those instances
where you've written you were only in it for the skydiving? Dumbass.


>snot noses and general neurotics etc etc etc up.
>The general rule in skydiving is like Grammar school playground rules
>go along to get along, that allows you chiseling bottom feeders to
>operate under the radar.

And that's a load of crap, too. The "general rule" in skydiving is
never promise more than you can deliver and likeing it to a "grammar
school playground" is simply convienent whitewash to suggest skydivers
are child-like in motivation and in practice. You got the same lame
crap by calling the news group the "wreck." The reality is, if you're
a dickhead people will figure it out real fast and make the effort to
set you straight and if it doesn't take, either kick your ass on or
off the dropzone. Or just stop jumping with you. In fact, some
dumbshits suddendly discover they need to buy themselves one of those
spandex sitsuits to do solos in.


>BUT if I rattled their cage they flew
>apart...showed their ass and it cost them points around the DZ every
>time.

Ooooo - "points around the dz." Horrors.Yeah, maybe in that short
period of time you were jumping, Jinnie, before you ever got a clue
and you weren't in skydiving long enough obviously to get a clue, you
hit upon it all being about scoring "points around the DZ" and got
ejected from the sport before you could figure out what the real deal
was. In Jinnie's world it was all about some sort of perceived
status. No fucking clue.

>Almost as much fun as jumping to me.

Sounds to me like your jumps were just barely tolerable by that
measure.

>..A lot of people
>appreciated it because I said things they were afraid to say---So I
>was always welcome to jump base for people training,

Not "always." You got shutdown pretending you could organize "larger"
formations stocked full of novices.

>ecause they
>don't like your type of snotty girl deep down plus your taking
>customers and money away from them

Oh, yaaaaas!" <saracsm dummy> Like, I gotta wrestle it from 'em. No
- skydivers throw money at me, Jinnie. Call me up. Seeking me out.
Offering, willing, and able to cover the jump and money on top of that
if I deliver what they're looking for. It's no big deal - just takes
time and practice to get decently consistant for most people. Not
you.


>------->To see a bootee queen brain
>lock and blow a formation or shot because of my attention to their
>lack of substance was a plus...I'd go out get 5 or 10 jumps

Over a couple weeks or months time, that is.

>n and get
>my rocks off in more ways than one I never bothered the righteous
>people, only the little bootee wearing phonies.

Oh, so all those formations you blew because you were "bored" or loads
you screwed the spot on - all those people were unrightous, somehow. I
know a lot of those people, Jinnie. I've also seen you in action. You
were a typical 200 hundred jump wonder. Thought you knew it all, had
all the answers, and if anything went wrong - someone else's fault or
they had it coming. You were the worst kind of skygod. Thought you
were better than you were, everyone else was worse than they were, and
too stupid and self-centered and worried about "status" to ever get a
clue before skydiving became too real for you and summarily ejected
you like a watermelon seed between thumb and forefinger..

>to bad I had that


>stroke---I might have had a influence on you and your chicken shit
>bottom feeding ways----Its clear you need a big Daddy to teach you
>right from wrong 0~;)P

It was a good day in skydiving when they hauled your butt out of
there. One less dangerous idiot shutting down the runway because he
was too stupid and fixated to steer away from it.


>
>Their was no coaching endorcement back then so I could always load the
>otter with a load of newbies wanting to zoo around.

No, not always. You tried it once and after the not unexpected
clusterfuck that turned into, you got shut down.

>Yeah I could have
>made a man's man out of you ya whiny little slacker 0~;->

And if monkeys flew out of your ass it'd be sure to raise the IQ level
in your rest home. The reality is, only one of us having a great time
skydiving and that monkey in that mirror of yours has been out of
skydiving way longer than it was ever in.

...bsrp
...jlk

Jerry K.

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Aug 7, 2009, 12:44:20 AM8/7/09
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On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:04:10 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:

>On Jul 22, 3:50�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:33:21 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>>
>> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>>
>> >peanut4040 wrote:
>> >> On Jun 18, 11:16?pm, peanut4040 <peanut4...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> > HEHEHEHE,,
>>
>> >> Pappy, how you been doing?
>>
>> >I'm O.K its been quite on wreck since I kicked Jerry-girl with her
>> >snotty attitude
>>
>> In a pig's eye. �Still getting it wrong, I see. �And trolling. �
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>Speaking of trolling, Camera people are a dime a dozen anymore,

Nope. The reality is, there's never enough consistant camera flyers.
Period. Go to any Nattionals, any meet, and even virtually any
dropzone. They're always needing them. Just the way it is.

>what
>do you do if you can't get enough camera work to pay for your
>trips..

Don't know - since I took the time to get halfway decent at
cameraflying the situation has never come up. That said, I've been to
lots of dropzones, boogies, ect where I didn't bother to bring the
cameras and in those circumstances - just alike anyone - bought lift
tickets. What do you do when you've burned enough people to where
they no longer are interested in jumping with you, Jinnie? The answer
in your case has something to do with wearing a spandex sitsuit and
doing solos, I do believe.


>..Throw in a blow job to beat the competition out? HAHAHAHAHAHA
>Woo Woo--->Thats a for sure troll

That's the Navy way, Jinnie - straight from your gunny's bunk, no
less.

...bsrp
...jlk

the unknown flailer

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Aug 7, 2009, 1:17:09 AM8/7/09
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On Aug 6, 11:44 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:04:10 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
>
>
>
>
> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 22, 3:50 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:33:21 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
> >> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>
> >> >peanut4040 wrote:
> >> >> On Jun 18, 11:16?pm, peanut4040 <peanut4...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >> > HEHEHEHE,,
>
> >> >> Pappy, how you been doing?
>
> >> >I'm O.K its been quite on wreck since I kicked Jerry-girl with her
> >> >snotty attitude
>
> >> In a pig's eye.  Still getting it wrong, I see.  And trolling.  
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
>
> >Speaking of trolling, Camera people are a dime a dozen anymore,
>
> Nope.  The reality is, there's never enough consistant camera flyers.
> Period.  Go to any Nattionals, any meet, and even virtually any
> dropzone.  They're always needing them.  Just the way it is.
>
> >what
> >do you do if you can't get enough camera work to pay for your
> >trips..
>
I've been to
> lots of dropzones, boogies, ect where I didn't bother to bring the
> cameras and in those circumstances - just alike anyone - bought lift
> tickets.  What do you do when you've burned enough people to where
> they no longer are interested in jumping with you, Jinnie?  
>
That never came about, I had a mesmerizing power almost Rasputin like
power, a lot of experienced jumpers seemed to be glad I wasn't
needling them and I was always welcomed into jumps....mostly as base,
the losers who couldn't seem to deal with it failed to build a
consensus against me. And their were always plenty of beginners around
standing in line wanting in on one of my zoo's. funny thing about the
culture, their are so many phonies and back biters around a straight
talking individual is a refreshing change....At least you know where
you stand with a person like that...They won't be all kissy faced then
stab you in the back and thats why the loser's were loser's, they
constantly played both ends
without realizing people were wise to them. The looser sky gods who
didn't want in on the 8, 16 and 20 ways because I was in jumped 2-way
& 4-ways with each other.....Beware kid, you don't have everybody
fooled, quite a few are wise to you
and now you have a fruit cake rep to deal with...I mean all this
fixation you have on a ghost from the past tsk tsk tsk ;-P
Funny thing about looser like you.....just because some one chaps your
young ass you think everybody shouldn't like them....I roll on the
floor laughing thinking about you out at the DZ talking about how
sorry I must really be because I'm needling you----->Nobody around the
DZ cares Jerry....they probably think you are a fruit cake for
freaking out over a ghost
from the 90's. Ohhhhhh yeah. I still have the touch bend over girl
boy!! 0~;->
>
> ...bsrp
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the unknown flailer

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 Ever even been
> >> to Lost Prairie, Jinnie?
>
> >> ...bsrp
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>
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>
> >Closest I've ever been was Whitefish Mont and Glacier National park
> >snowmobiling then on to Seattle.
>
> Then, the answer is no you haven't and for that matter, nor will you
> ever.

No need....I know your dieing for my personal attention and perhaps
some coaching....I ain't popping that much money just to come out and
watch other people jump or help a looser out.


>
> >I wasn't big on boogies, did WFFC and
> >decided once was enough.
> >...Lost Prairie wasn't a big thing back
> >then.
>
> Who says it's a big thing now?
>
> >...Plenty in Texas for me to do. Skydiving was turning a aircraft
> >availability corner---You didn't have to leave Texas to jump the
> >bigger aircraft and loads or get a 24/5 or two in.
>
> Not that you were getting "24/5''s or two" in, mind you.

Yeah Dick rigged the T-BO up with O a couple of times, after that the
traveling 24/5 vendors started coming around. A lot of turbo twins
seemed to flood the market and the owners were looking for places to
keep them busy. Before Linsey sold Dick the Otter one of the Otter's
from Quincy was down, with its pilot----older guy that always wore a
straw hat. I heard he committed suicide sometime later. And before
that when Clara and Ryzard were DZM's at Waller we had a Queen Air
Then a King Air.....Way before your time Mr. big britches----->You may
kiss my ring camera geek. ;)P


>
> >Hope everyone had
> >fun including you although you seem to stay so miserable I doubt you
> >can enjoy it like you could if you would just relax and not take shit
> >so personal----Just bend over and take it like the little queen you
> >are! heh heh ;)P
>
> Shit, Jinnie (sorry, redendant, I know), not me getting all worked up

> ...bsrp
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I dunno you're down to reading threads nut man & my tag is on to see
if I make fun of you-------thats outright addiction.
Your ego does you in every time---Exactly why I own you kid heh heh

Jerry K.

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Bullshit. Sitsuit solos. Your fat ass wrapped in spandex shorts.

>I had a mesmerizing power almost Rasputin like
>power,

Rasputin was a charlatan. So are you. That's as far as the
comparison goes. Cut the crap.

>a lot of experienced jumpers seemed to be glad I wasn't
>needling them and I was always welcomed into jumps..

Bullshit. A lot of experienced jumpers were even more pleased that
you weren't on their dives. It wasn't your novice screwups - just
your rank excuses and neurosis to blame others for your own mistakes -
and your inability in accepting constructive criticism.

>..mostly as base,
>the losers who couldn't seem to deal with it failed to build a
>consensus against me.

Consensus my ass. Call it a general understanding by writ of
experience that you would fuck up the formation - which happens - but
what people wouldn't forget is your habit of blaming everyone and
everything except yourself for your own failings.

>And their were always plenty of beginners around
>standing in line wanting in on one of my zoo's.

Bullshit and boy are you projecting. No, at your low experience level
it was you wanting to be on formations you were never asked on more
than once, if at all.

>funny thing about the
>culture, their are so many phonies and back biters around a straight
>talking individual is a refreshing change.

And more rank projection. Phoney? You all over. I can cite your
words vs. reality. You were and are a big, fat phoney. Back biter?
You again. For who is it whio slams skydivers and skydiving and all
that lays in between without the benefit of having made more than two
skydives in the last 13 years? And straight talking - give it a rest.
Again, I can cite, and cite often, where you have been busted in
blatant, out and out lies from time in sport to size of formations to
even your stupid D license number. You're not a 'straight talker."
You're a overblown bag of wind way the fuck in love with your own
stupid, self-aggrandizing press releases. And you're a moron to
believe that anyone thought you were "refreshing" or anything other
than a 200 jump wonder with affirmation issues.

>...At least you know where
>you stand with a person like that.

Sure, not that you were "a person like that."

>..They won't be all kissy faced then
>stab you in the back and thats why the loser's were loser's, they
>constantly played both ends
>without realizing people were wise to them.

In other words, those organizing the dives you weren't on politely
told you to get lost.


>The looser sky gods who
>didn't want in on the 8, 16 and 20 ways because I was in jumped 2-way
>& 4-ways with each other.

Wise choice. Especially since you've already bragged about taking out
such formations because you were "bored," which translated from
Jinniespeak comes to taken out because you were screwing up and
working a lame, "I meant to do that." Seen it all before, Jinnie.
Spin it any way you can.


>....Beware kid, you don't have everybody
>fooled, quite a few are wise to you
>and now you have a fruit cake rep to deal with..

Oh, horrors. <sarcasm, dummy> Why, whatever will I do???? Got news
for you, dumbass - back in the day when I first started calling your
shit for the bogus crap that it is, there were a couple two or three
still reading the newsgroup who thought and told me that the
shellacking I was pasting your dumb ass with was pretty damn funny and
they enjoyed watching you squirm. Nowadays, very few read this
newsgroup - likely due to the reptitive nature of your line of crap
vs. mine. In any case, I'll just have to console myself what with
this looming cassandra of no longer having anyone "fooled," and oh, so
embarrassing "fruit cake" rep you are imagining with skydving with my
friends. In the meantime you can imagine that you on this electronic
newsgroup are somehow making a difference. Shit, you can continue on
being the Queen of May, for all I care. You ain't skydiving but
others are - and having a blast.

>.I mean all this
>fixation you have on a ghost from the past tsk tsk tsk ;-P

Is this where somone should invoke the "straight talker"
rationalization? No - this is simply, as said before, containment.
Containment of an ignorant, racist, poser, and troll. A non-skydiver
on a skydiving newsgroup with nothing positive to offer. Just a
stupid, stupid wannabe with a Napoleon complex who delights in
smearing his own shit on his face because he can pretend he owns
anyone who tells him he's covered in brown crud and when they don't,
that he's "kicked them out" or some such. You're lit up against the
sky, pork-pie, and as has been demonstrated in the past, I'll be happy
to show you the error of your ways just as long as you feel the need
to blunder about in here.

>Funny thing about looser like you.....just because some one chaps your
>young ass you think everybody shouldn't like them.

Yo, dumbass - show me where I have expressed any expectation that
"everybody (or anybody) shouldn't like" you? No, that's your paranoia
working overtime, pork pie. What other's think of you is their own
lookout and I don't give a shit about that. What this is, in terms of
containment, is simply and clearly expressed scorn and defiance,
slight regard, and contempt for your line of crap, as expressed on
this electronic newsgroup - although, when you were bragging about
your "National Medal" on the RV newsgroup (and you were), that was
pretty contemptable, if not pathetic, too.


>...I roll on the
>floor laughing thinking about you out at the DZ talking about how
>sorry I must really be because I'm needling you----->Nobody around the
>DZ cares Jerry.

Oh, you wish people were talking about you, don't you, Jinnie. Sorry,
pork pie - maybe once every few years someone at the bonfire who
remembers might laugh about how challenged you were on your landings
or maybe a remember that uncontrolled crash under a good canopy into
the runway over in Beaumont? But as an item of conversation? I
don'tthink I've heard anyone mention your dumb ass in years.

>...they probably think you are a fruit cake for
>freaking out over a ghost
>from the 90's.

Oh, yeah, Jinnie - work that soothing fantasy wishing misfortune upon
total strangers for taking you to task for the dumbshit things you
say. "He'll get his - people will think he's a fruitcake!" You're no
ghost, Jinnie - simply a tiny memory so faded as to be almost
non-existant, except in the rare case of someone screwing up and
looking for something else to blame - in that there are echos. But
skydivers today are a lot more realistic than they apparently were in
your own tiny sphere of consideration. In other words, most have a
clue that no matter how much one lies, or spins or pretends, the
ground doesn't give a shit. Skydivers learn this early. You never
did. And look at you now.

>Ohhhhhh yeah. I still have the touch bend over girl
>boy!! 0~;->

Hey, look - Jinnie's smearing himself with shit again. I think he
likes the taste or the smell or something. A pleasant mask to what
his reality actually smells like. Yep. Makes sense. The brown
matches his eyes, too.

...bsrp
...jlk

Jerry K.

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Shit, it was your idea, dipshit. Why'd you bring it up then?


>>
>> >I wasn't big on boogies, did WFFC and
>> >decided once was enough.
>> >...Lost Prairie wasn't a big thing back
>> >then.
>>
>> Who says it's a big thing now?
>>
>> >...Plenty in Texas for me to do. Skydiving was turning a aircraft
>> >availability corner---You didn't have to leave Texas to jump the
>> >bigger aircraft and loads or get a 24/5 or two in.
>>
>> Not that you were getting "24/5''s or two" in, mind you.
>
>Yeah Dick rigged the T-BO up with O a couple of times, after that the
>traveling 24/5 vendors started coming around. A lot of turbo twins
>seemed to flood the market and the owners were looking for places to
>keep them busy. Before Linsey sold Dick the Otter one of the Otter's
>from Quincy was down, with its pilot----older guy that always wore a
>straw hat. I heard he committed suicide sometime later. And before
>that when Clara and Ryzard were DZM's at Waller we had a Queen Air
>Then a King Air.....Way before your time Mr. big britches----->You may
>kiss my ring camera geek.

I call bullshit until you produce video, pork pie. I mean, with as
often as you've been busted for lying, it only makes sense. Besides,
it was your rule - at least you've gargled it out there enough - not
on video, didn't happen. Still would have liked to see you land a
canopy at 3500 feet. Wait - you had serious trouble at lz's only a
few yeards at most above sea level so, nevermind. I've already seen
that crash boom bang.

>
>
>>
>> >Hope everyone had
>> >fun including you although you seem to stay so miserable I doubt you
>> >can enjoy it like you could if you would just relax and not take shit
>> >so personal----Just bend over and take it like the little queen you
>> >are! heh heh ;)P
>>
>> Shit, Jinnie (sorry, redendant, I know), not me getting all worked up
>> ...bsrp
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>>
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>
>I dunno you're down to reading threads nut man & my tag is on to see
>if I make fun of you-------thats outright addiction.
>Your ego does you in every time---Exactly why I own you kid heh heh

Oh, no, Jinnie - remember? You "kicked" me "out." At least, that's
what you said. And on that note - seems you got this big, fat
addiction to reading other's posts, Jinnie? Pot calling the kettle
black? The reality is, you working the lame "addiction" angle is
nothing more than another stupid non-sequitur having nothing to do
with any of the points at hand. You get shit wrong, I nail you to the
wall with it, and the best you got is a, "Oh yeah? You're addicted!"
Wipe your nose, junior. You're still getting shit wrong. Now, about
this idea of you having "kicked" me "out." You were clearly wrong
about that and any other answer is simply denial. Dumbass.

...bsrp
...jlk

the unknown flailer

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Aug 7, 2009, 4:13:01 AM8/7/09
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Nope it was being called the wreck long before I showed up, its a
fairly simple play on words kid...And humorous besides.
Its just that you are not good enough with words to figure out whats
going on, not all jumpers are humorless or as
ignorant of paraphrasing and cute metaphors as you seem to be----Some
other slick poster came up with it


>
> >BUT if I rattled their cage they flew
> >apart...showed their ass and it cost them points around the DZ every
> >time.
>
> Ooooo - "points around the dz."  Horrors.Yeah, maybe in that short
> period of time you were jumping, Jinnie, before you ever got a clue
> and you weren't in skydiving long enough obviously to get a clue, you
> hit upon it all being about scoring "points around the DZ" and got
> ejected from the sport before you could figure out what the real deal
> was.  In Jinnie's world it was all about some sort of perceived
> status.  No fucking clue.
>
> >Almost as much fun as jumping to me.
>
> Sounds to me like your jumps were just barely tolerable by that
> measure.
>
> >..A lot of people
> >appreciated it because I said things they  were afraid to say---So I
> >was always welcome to jump base for people training,
>
> Not "always."  You got shutdown pretending you could organize "larger"
> formations stocked full of novices.

Nope, it was clear to me after watching the video taken from the
ground, people tracking every which way, newbies loosing nerve and
breaking off to early...from the center no less, heh he you should
have seen it, un fucking believable. They had to learn though so I
just cut down the numbers on the formations, drilled them hard in dirt
dives....took the over flow and formed them in 4, 6 and 8 ways then
put them out. I didn't try any more 17 or 20 ways again unless I had
another D to help
keep an eye on the various sections....Wasn't there to kill them, just
give them some practical experience and survival skills build
confidence.The kids coming off student status used to joke with the
kids still on level 8....Mike says, so many jumps before a 4-way, so
many jumps to do a 8 way and if your in with Snuffy you better at
least have at least 2 or 300. You would have thought it was
combat....I didn't mind, they might have been on the edge of fear but
at least they were developing humor. I as a rule like young people,
want to see them have fun----dunno what's with you, you're so
sissified
and got caught out on claiming the medals the original team members
earned, talking how proud your dad was of shaking a Nazi's hand ---
shit---, Jew baiting maybe it's something else. Maybe I was just in
the military and stationed overseas too long. You are pretty well
fucked no matter what you do though because you are attracted to
me...I just don't like a snot, never have, never will. Get over it and
quit reading my posts when I'm talking to someone else if it upsets
you!


> >ecause they
> >don't like your type of snotty girl deep down plus your taking
> >customers and money away from them
>
> Oh, yaaaaas!" <saracsm dummy>  Like, I gotta wrestle it from 'em.  No
> - skydivers throw money at me, Jinnie.  Call me up.  Seeking me out.
> Offering, willing, and able to cover the jump and money on top of that
> if I deliver what they're looking for.  It's no big deal - just takes
> time and practice to get decently consistant for most people.  Not
> you.
>
> >------->To see a bootee queen brain
> >lock and blow a formation or shot because of my attention to their
> >lack of substance was a plus...I'd go out get 5 or 10 jumps
>
> Over a couple weeks or months time, that is.
>

Nope every weekend


> >n and get
> >my rocks off in more ways than one I never bothered the righteous
> >people, only the little bootee wearing phonies.
>
> Oh, so all those formations you blew because you were "bored" or loads
> you screwed the spot on - all those people were unrightous,

No but it was teaching...I made the kids with the least jumps spot,
stood behind them and covered the lights with my hand so they couldn't
get a GPS tip from the pilot, when they made their call I took my hand
away and let them look at the light, use the rocker switch for left
and right corrections. I always emphasized the cardinal rule for the
following formations. in the pre dive "Always Check the spot before
you climb out!" We put the few Deguello up by the cockpit hatch. If
they didn't have enough sense to call for a go around after 16 or 17
low timers went out, their fault! Newbies
as a rule are slow in the door. Mills told me that...When I had less
than 150 jumps we seemed to be getting burned on the Delguello spots
all the time. He said "Your climb out and exits are to slow" I studied
on it and saw he was right. It was a good spot for them and would have
been for us to if we weren't fumbling around in the door so long...I
taught the way I learned. You were told dammit and fucked it up
anyway, you here to skydive or cry? heh heh....I loved it!
If some real live trash talking snots were on the load I'd burn as
many people as I had to to hose them. The kids
knew it and would look down the bench seats to see who was there then
whisper to each other....Go out on Snuffys butt,
if he goes first, don't bother to float I smell a hosing. If he goes
last, look down and see if its short we may have to get off
slow.....See they were learning. The hard way perhaps but they learned
to take care of their selves. because in the end
you are responsible for your own jump. Dunno, could be I'm just a mean
old man? Maybe I thought putting pressure on
those kids made them stronger----Either way they thrived on it. ;->

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the unknown flailer

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On Aug 6, 11:44 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:04:10 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
>
>
>
>
> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 22, 3:50 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:33:21 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
> >> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>
> >> >peanut4040 wrote:
> >> >> On Jun 18, 11:16?pm, peanut4040 <peanut4...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >> > HEHEHEHE,,
>
> >> >> Pappy, how you been doing?
>
> >> >I'm O.K its been quite on wreck since I kicked Jerry-girl with her
> >> >snotty attitude
>
> >> In a pig's eye.  Still getting it wrong, I see.  And trolling.  
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
>
> >Speaking of trolling, Camera people are a dime a dozen anymore,
>
> Nope.  The reality is, there's never enough consistant camera flyers.
> Period.  Go to any Nattionals, any meet, and even virtually any
> dropzone.  They're always needing them.  Just the way it is.
>
> >what
> >do you do if you can't get enough camera work to pay for your
> >trips..
>
> Don't know - since I took the time to get halfway decent at
> cameraflying the situation has never come up.  
> ...bsrp
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>
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Skydiving is tied so tight to ego......Having never seen your work, I
can safely say you are not as good as you think you are------Got a run
of the mill or even inferior product? Cover it up with hype and apply
some bullshit to grease the sell.....Like those first team medals you
claimed years ago, selling yourself is similar to selling lemons on a
car lot What a crock of shit! <eg>

Jerry K.

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For you - certainly. But you haven't made more than two skydives in
over 13 years. For you it was all about ego - trying to be on
formations you weren't capable of contributing to in any positive way,
making stupid excuses for your demonstrated lack of experience, and
blaming others. All about stroking your own ego, is all. Just as it
is in this electronic newsgroup. All about Jinnie making himself feel
better about himself and his very brown cicumstances.

>.....Having never seen your work, I
>can safely say you are not as good as you think you are-

That's a load of crap. You, as you have never seen anything I've
shot, I can safely say don't know what the hell you're talking about
as without basis for objective consideration you are enitrely in the
dark in regards to its merits or lack thereof. I'll gladly send you a
DVD, pork pie - just tell me where - or point you to a YouTube link.
That or make with the excuses explaining why, when you get down to it,
you have to essentially refuse to observe a tangible example and in so
doing be forced to render an objective conclusion. That is, if you
actually could reamin objective what with the way your ego has ahold
of your tiny nads, that is.


>-----Got a run
>of the mill or even inferior product? Cover it up with hype and apply
>some bullshit to grease the sell.

Naw, that ain't it, and boy are you keening in high C, Jinnie. The
crux is, I get asked and you never did - not more than once, in any
case - and it chaps you mightily. The reality is, if it was a "run of
the mill or even an inferior product," explain how cameraflyers with
such an "inferior product" still get asked again and again to return
and jump some more and provide more of what other sydivers are asking
for, and even cover their lift tickets and pay them on top of that?
Extortion? Hypnosis? A dearth of cameraflyers? Maybe it's everyone
just has too much money and are sick of wading through it all? No,
the reality is, video don't lie in terms of how the cameraflyer is
providing (or not providing) what the person asking for gets. Sure,
you (first person you, dumbass) can take out a formation, go low, and
flail to the cows come home while claiming you were "bored" or you
were just trying to make things "interesting" or that some "skygods"
had whatever coming - you've admitted as much and more on numerous
occasions - video just records what's in the lens' field of view.
Nothing more, nothing less. "Oh, that wasn't ~me~ crashing into the
formation - that was the formation suddenly skidding under me and
getting real floaty, all a sudden!" Such would be your expected
excuse, pork pie.

>....Like those first team medals you
>claimed years ago,

What, like crowing about your "National Medal" without mentioning it
was just a pops scrambles dealie? Not at all, pork pie, because every
team medal I've "claimed" (or not,) Jinnie - is in a drawer somewhere
in my house, and not a single one was ever "claimed" which did not
actually exist and was not actually given to me at the conclusion of
some meet or contest. Yep - been with teams full of good friends you
can only dream about, pork pie.

>selling yourself is similar to selling lemons on a
>car lot What a crock of shit! <eg>

Don't have to and never did. Like I said - I get called. Asked to be
on skydives - you couldn't relate to that - at least, not more than
once. Poor little Jinnie pork pie - so desperate for a reaction. Feel
better now, Jinnie? What? You want me to jam it in ya some more?
Say ah, pork pie! Loser.

...bsrp
...jlk

the unknown flailer

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> over 13 years. > >.....Having never seen your work, I

> >can safely say you are not as good as you think you are-
>
> That's a load of crap.  

> >-----Got a run


> >of the mill or even inferior product? Cover it up with hype and apply
> >some bullshit to grease the sell.

> >....Like those first team medals you
> >claimed years ago,
>

 Loser.


>
> ...bsrp
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>
> - Show quoted text -

touchy......touchy-----the truth hurts? Stop by the local Rx and pick
something up for those flaming hemorrhoids kid
I just lance them, don't put salv on for 2nd rate skygods. Dr.
flailer 0~;->

Jerry K.

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You don't know the meaning of the word, dipshit. You're a proven liar
and, as ever, I can cite numerous examples where you've gargled the
big lie and, of course - because you're a dipshit - been busted for
it. Wanna tell us again about that 48way, the largest formation you
said you ever saw and said you saw from the ground, and which you
later gargled you were on, also? All there in black and white, pork
pie. How about you gargling how you were skydiving since the late
80's juxtaposed with you in the mid 90's saying you'd only been
jumping for two years? It's the stuff of rank posers, pork pie -
pretending you were what you weren't to somehow lend creedence to your
stupid words. But, you're such a dipshit you'd rather rationalize and
tell more lies than accept this ~proven~ truth. Proven, pork pie.
Won't go away just because you pretend it isn't there.

>Stop by the local Rx and pick
>something up for those flaming hemorrhoids kid

Ooooo - the expected reference to an embarrassing butt malady. I do
delcare, so cutting <sarcasm, dummy>. Guess you haven't been on too
many bigways, have you, kid?


>I just lance them, don't put salv on for 2nd rate skygods. Dr.
>flailer

No, hardly. This isn't a case of "hemorrhoids," metapphorical or
literal, but quite simply you being called on your watery line of
crap, your lies, your trolls, and your baseless brags. You dish
without substantiation and it and you are ridiculed, but when it comes
to taking - taking with substantiation - just a poser with affirmation
issues, is all. Two jumps in over 13 years, pork pie, and when it
comes to skydivers and skydiving (and a whole host of other tings it's
been shown) you ain't got a clue. Pork pie.

...bsrp
...jlk

the unknown flailer

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> >I just lance them, don't put salv on for 2nd rate sky gods. Dr.

> >flailer  
>
> No, hardly.  This isn't a case of "hemorrhoids," metapphorical or
> literal, but quite simply you being called on your watery line of
> crap, your lies, your trolls, and your baseless brags.  You dish
> without substantiation and it and you are ridiculed, but when it comes
> to taking - taking with substantiation - just a poser with affirmation
> issues, is all.  Two jumps in over 13 years,
>
> ...bsrp
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Ahhh yes but 7 years in the sport, enough to get your number....Just
as I suspected.

~All ego, little talent~

Your type is what makes a beautiful sport ugly.....pause AND
EXPENSIVE !!! !!!


Jerry K.

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Seven years? That's a load of crap. Try two and change. And Jinnie
smears himself with shit some more.


http://groups.google.com/group/rec.skydiving/msg/734305368e9cdffa

< Oct 26 1995, 1:00 am>

"Just started two years ago "

Snuffy D-17105

* * *

And here's the entire paragraph for "context," you pathetic liar.

"Yeah, I went static line all the way...Just started two years ago
We used a 182, in Leauge City....5 SL's then a 5 sec FF and on up.
Beaumont still does the Static Line program and I believe Waller does
too."


>
> ~All ego, little talent~

Oh, woe <sarcasm, dummy> Guess I'll just have to console myself
skydiving with my friends. It's a good option to have - but you
wouldn't know about that.

>Your type is what makes a beautiful sport ugly.....pause AND
>EXPENSIVE !!! !!!

Cut the crap. Not near the ugliness of blood on the tarmac and
shutting down the dz while they get the poor, retarded fool off said
tarmac - the same fool who didn't practiice on the ground what he'd be
doing in the air. And not near as ugly as your fat, pork pie ass
crammed into those spandex sitsuit shorts, pork pie.

...bsrp
...jlk

the unknown flailer

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On Aug 10, 12:43 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:44:05 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
>
> >> >Stop by the local Rx and pick
> >> >something up for those flaming hemorrhoids kid
>
> >> Ooooo - the expected reference to an embarrassing butt malady. I do
> >> delcare, so cutting <sarcasm, dummy>. Guess you haven't been on too
> >> many bigways, have you, kid?
>
> >> >I just lance them, don't put salv on for 2nd rate sky gods. Dr.
> >> >flailer
>
> >> No, hardly. This isn't a case of "hemorrhoids," metapphorical or
> >> literal, but quite simply you being called on your watery line of
> >> crap, your lies, your trolls, and your baseless brags. You dish
> >> without substantiation and it and you are ridiculed, but when it comes
> >> to taking - taking with substantiation - just a poser with affirmation
> >> issues, is all. Two jumps in over 13 years,
>
> >> ...bsrp
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>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >Ahhh yes but 7 years in the sport, enough to get your number....Just
> >as I suspected.
>
> Seven years?  That's a load of crap.  Try two and change.  And Jinnie
> smears himself with shit some more.
>
> < Oct 26 1995, 1:00 am>
>
> "Just started two years ago "
>
> Snuffy D-17105
>
> * * *
And a D number no less, in two years? So you're admitting I was one
hell of a skydiver huh? I think your fucked kid,
out of your leauge.....a D in two years and going static line to earn
it- - wow, how long it take you?


>
> And here's the entire paragraph for "context," you pathetic liar.
>
> "Yeah, I went static line all the way...Just started two years ago
>    We used a 182, in Leauge City....5 SL's then a 5 sec FF and on up.
> Beaumont still does the Static Line program and I believe Waller does
> too."
>

It was six S/L's, the question is not who besides the military is
training static line...The question is
DID YOU GO S/L? Hell no, you needed two jump masters to hold your hand
girly man and btw with my
foreign adviser training I didn't and don't need 2, 6 or even 10 years
to know whats going on in a culture.
I got it zeroed in short order---If not instantly seeing a bunch of
young shit heads are so simple to read.
Speaking of simple do you think a guy trained to be dropped into a
country as part of a team to train and lead counter
insurgent forces against enemy's of the state is going to provide good
info to hedonistic fag like you? Or is
it I did and you are too too stupid to understand the info given? Yeah
you got a problem kid, Big ego & a tight
butt crack.....and iggnorant on top of everything else WOW its like
being mean to a retarded child but more fun. ;)

Jerry K.

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A D in a couple years and change is nothing special. It does not
denote a "hell of a skydiver" in any way, shape or form. So, no. Not
at all.


>I think your fucked kid,
>out of your leauge.....a D in two years and going static line to earn
>it- - wow, how long it take you?

I think you're an affirmation starved moron and troll, pork pie - and
when it came to skydiving - clearly you were out of your league - just
as you are now. You yell you gotta D at that runway before it smacked
you in the face? As for me and how long did it take me for me to jump
through the hoops for the D? Since you ask, sixteen months. But,
who's counting?


>
>
>
>
>>
>> And here's the entire paragraph for "context," you pathetic liar.
>>
>> "Yeah, I went static line all the way...Just started two years ago
>> � �We used a 182, in Leauge City....5 SL's then a 5 sec FF and on up.
>> Beaumont still does the Static Line program and I believe Waller does
>> too."
>>
>
>It was six S/L's, the question is not who besides the military is
>training static line...The question is
>DID YOU GO S/L?

Why is that so important to you, Jinnie? Ah, you're punting to the
pissing contest, of course. I say you're a pethetic liar and provide
rock solid proof and presto, you move on to beside the point crap. On
that note, were you cleared to JM self by jump number eight? No? Wait
- you were one of thsoe s/l yoyo dopes on ropes - needed an umbilical
to open your chute. Had to repeat some levels, too. I guess that
would be a "hell no."


>Hell no, you needed two jump masters to hold your hand
>girly man and btw with my
>foreign adviser training I didn't and don't need 2, 6 or even 10 years
>to know whats going on in a culture.

Didn't seem to help you much in terms of staying in the sport more
than a few years, pork pie.

> I got it zeroed in short order---If not instantly seeing a bunch of
>young shit heads are so simple to read.

Coincidentally, a good number of skydivers had you "zeroed in" as a
self-centered, affirmation started wannabe with a proclvity for making
excuses and blaming others for his own errant mistakes. A lot of
those skydivers are still jumping, too. They must have learned
somethign you were incapable of.

>Speaking of simple do you think a guy trained to be dropped into a
>country as part of a team to train and lead counter
>insurgent forces against enemy's of the state is going to provide good
>info to hedonistic fag like you?

After seeing you in action on a dropzone, after being in skydiving
literally 5-6 times longer (so far) than you were able to last, with
literally more than ten times the number of jumps (so far) you ever
made, ever, and after a good amount of time easily slapping you upside
the head with your own inane proclamations, assertions, hypocrisies,
lies, and general bullcrap, I tend to believe that you are incapable
of providing "good info," period - geared as you are to only and
absolutely stroking yourself.

>Or is
>it I did and you are too too stupid to understand the info given?

Oh, I understand entirely the "info given." It is demonstratively and
provenly little more than brags, lies, trolls, hypocrisies, and
general swill towards the purpose of evoking a response because you
are patently without that ability in the eral world. The electronic
newsgroup equivalent of smearing yourself with your own feces and
gleaning what affirmation you can from the idea that you were able to
get someone to acknowledge that you are indeed a veritable cocoon of
stinking turds.


>Yeah
>you got a problem kid, Big ego & a tight
>butt crack.....and iggnorant on top of everything else WOW its like
>being mean to a retarded child but more fun.

You're projecting again, pork pie. You got the problem - both in the
real world and on this electronic newsgroup. It was your little
electrnic fiefdom where you could play pretend the hoary old "outlaw"
skydiver - a facade built on a foundation of watery shit. But, no
more. Simply isolated and silhouetted. Every turn antiticpated and
every ignorant and lame line of crap ridiculed and shoved back in your
face. Not because you can't skydive - even if this reality is due to
your own arrogance, poor planning, and inability to think things
through - but because you're a proven liar, demonstrated troll, and an
undeniable poser - and an ignorant racist to boot. I can cite every
one of these accusations, of course - often with your very own words,
pork pie. Oh, btw - the falcon canopy is docile and forgiving and a
favorite of dropzones for their AFF student operations. You're just
ill-equipped, is all. Pork pie.

...bsrp
...jlk

the unknown flailer

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On Aug 10, 10:39 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:59:58 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer

>


> >> * * *
> >And a D number no less, in two years? So you're admitting I was one
> >hell of a skydiver huh?
>
> A D in a couple years and change is nothing special.  It does not
> denote a "hell of a skydiver" in any way, shape or form.  So, no.  Not
> at all.  
>
> >I think your fucked kid,
> >out of your leauge.....a D in two years and going static line to earn
> >it- - wow, how long it take you?
>

> Why is that so important to you, Jinnie?  

because it bothers you, you are torne between two choices.
#1. I was in the sport 7 years.....or
#2. I went the slower route S/L earned my D in two years
puts you the typical DZ liar either way.

7 years is certainly long enough to take the pulse and understand a
culture (which means my opinions on type of skydiver is
correct.
OR
2 years earning the D and a National POPS bronze in that short time
which makes me a hell of a skydiver for a older guy and still gives me
some DZ time & knowledge to base opinion on. Whichever way you like it
you're fucked

> >Yeah you got a problem kid, Big ego & a tight

> >butt crack..... while some guy who began in the late 80's to very early 90's, earned his D with a opinion is calling a spade a spade.....And the bottom feeding spade is you chump!!!


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On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:23:08 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:

>On Aug 10, 10:39�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:59:58 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
>>
>> >> * * *
>> >And a D number no less, in two years? So you're admitting I was one
>> >hell of a skydiver huh?
>>
>> A D in a couple years and change is nothing special. �It does not
>> denote a "hell of a skydiver" in any way, shape or form. �So, no. �Not
>> at all. �
>>
>> >I think your fucked kid,
>> >out of your leauge.....a D in two years and going static line to earn
>> >it- - wow, how long it take you?
>>
>> Why is that so important to you, Jinnie? �
>
>because it bothers you, you are torne between two choices.

But, it doesn't. That's nothing but a false construct designed to
make you feel better about yourself - that you have an effect. You
don't. Why would anyone (anyone who wasn't an affirmation starved
dipshit, dipshit) give a tinker's damn about "how long" it might take
to get a D license and in that asinine pissing contest you've punted
to, if such measurements mattered a tinker's damn - which they don't,
it seems that you lose.

>#1. I was in the sport 7 years.....or

Bullshit - your own words absolutely contradict this bogus claim you
are making. Mkae this lie again and I'll shove it back in your face
again, pork pie.

>#2. I went the slower route S/L earned my D in two years
>puts you the typical DZ liar either way.

You're projecting again, pork pie. I can cite your words, your actual
words - complete with dates and all that and in context where you have
absolutely lied about your short time in skydiving and this rhetorical
bullshit line of a "typical DZ liar" describes you to a T. The
strawman you raise is yourself. And I can substntiate it. From the
time you were in the sport, to brags on formations you said you were
on - and later admitted otherwise, to even the number to that stupid D
license you managed to eke out. Got new for ya, pork pie - I know S/L
grads who got their D in less time, way less time, than you, didn't
have to repeat any levels (unlike you), are still jumping, and aren't
lying posers (way unlike you). You, on the other hand, are a lying
poser with two jumps to your credit (so to speak) over the preceeding
thirteen and a half years. You wanna work some stupid pissing
contest, fine by me. Lots of skydivers who started before you still
jumping and lots who started after are still jumping. But, not you.
And the reasons why you aren't jumping fall squarely on the fact that
you weren't head's up, you were arrogant, you couldn't spot, you
refused to think things through, and it was beyond your ability. Spit
out like a watermelon seed between thumb and forefinger. And the
responsibility for this outcome is square on you. So, work that
pissing contest, pork pie. Lots of skydivers still jumping - but none
of them are you.

>
>7 years is certainly long enough to take the pulse and understand a
>culture (which means my opinions on type of skydiver is
>correct.

Not that you were in the sport for seven years, mind you. Your words
betray you, pork pie. But, even if you had managed to last that long
- a period of time DOUBLED by l'il o'l me's time in the sport btw -,
your opinion expressed in a public forum is fair game for public
comment - especially so for how asinine your opinions actually are -
and it certainly doesn't mean it's correct in any way, shape, or form.
As a matter of fact, your "opinion" is blinkered with self-serving
prejudices all having to do with making you feel better about
yourself, your situation, the shitty circumstances you presently are
in, and to color the memory you have of skydiving which came to a
quick end long before you could actually become a hoary old "outlaw"
skydiver - which in your case is simply a myth - the bullshit
pretensions of a posing wannabe. People remember, pork pie. You were
a two hundred jump wonder, thought you knew it all, but were too
stupid to grasp that to the rest you were a dangerous idiot and the
conventional wisdom was it was only a matter of time before you
screwed up big and removed yourself from the sport. And this
conventional wisdom proved itself spot on.

>OR
>2 years earning the D and a National POPS bronze in that short time
>which makes me a hell of a skydiver for a older guy

Shit, dumbass - if you want to think of yourself as a "hell of a
skydiver" or the Queen of May for all I care, have a freaking party -
just don't expect anyone other than yourself to buy it, what with how
you came to your stupid end in skydiving and what with the stupid
things you say in here ... and the lies ... and the hypocrisies ...
and the posing ... and the racism. And, as ever, deny any of these
charges and I'll be quite happy to lay it out in black and white, with
your own words, where these charges are substantiated. A "hell of a"
fucking idiot is what you were (and remain to this day), is all.

>and still gives me
>some DZ time & knowledge to base opinion on. Whichever way you like it
>you're fucked

Oooo - guess I'll just have to console myself with skydiving with my
friends, eh pork pie? No, Jinnie - it is you who are "fucked." Your
only skydiving (if one could call it that) outlet is this little
backwater of the usenet and hear the silence out there, dipshit?
There's the nut, there's me, and the random three or five who might
chime in, once in a blue moon. Gone are the days of "Old Man Snuffie
Smith," the "old timer," the "coyote with is sheep" with a loose
orbit of skydivers playing along with your inane line of crap and
giving you opportunities to either brag or abuse or bully or play
pretend (and lie). No, all you got left for the greater part is me
calling you on your line of crap and calling you for what you are. A
posing wannabe troll, liar, racist, and in terms of your very short
term in skydiving, sub-mediocre at best on a good day but for the
greater part, just an idiot with pretensions of being far better than
he actually was. You wanna put on the dress and be the Queen of May,
pork pie, well - you just go ahead and slip that gown on - it ain't
covering up the stink, no how.


>
>> >Yeah you got a problem kid, Big ego & a tight
>> >butt crack..... while some guy who began in the late 80's to very early 90's, earned his D with a opinion is calling a spade a spade..

And I'm calling you and again can substantiate the call I'm making, as
I have before, a big, fat liar, pork pie. You didn't begin "in the
late 80's to very early 90's," your own words illustrate this lie
you're trying to make. As has often been demonstrated in the past,
your "opinion," and how it is formed has regularly shown to be faulty,
blinkered, prejudiced, and inherantly designed to make you feel better
about yourself and your circumstances. So, blow your "opinion" out
your ass, pork pie. The "spade" you're trying to "call" you've never
met, never seen, and for that matter engages in skydiving (or, so you
appear to believe), an activity you've barely even touched (face to
tarmac notwithstanding) in over thirteen years. No, the fact that I
take you and the stupid things you say to task is the only
substantitive thing you have to go on - it chaps your ass. You call
that "spade," pork pie - and I'll call a fat, dumb, ignorant,
hypocritical, liar, and racist a fat, dumb, ignorant, hypocritical,
liar, and racist. And I call you ill equipped as well.

>...And the bottom feeding spade is you chump!!!

Just more lame, rhetorical bullshit, Jinnie. Retread and it
illustrates your prejudice so clear - you have this idea that I can
fly a camera and in your mind, anyone who can fly a camera just has to
be engaged in nothing but flying a camera and further, that all this
cameraflying is a literal and malevalent siphon of resources out of
skydivers and skydiving, and that against such malevalence there is no
defense or recourse. Bullshit, of course. Just a rhetorically
strident keen in high-C towards the purpose of painting the person
calling you and your inane crap for what it is, inane crap, as somehow
less, discountable, and invalid so once you have dismissed the person
making the argument, you can summarily dismiss the argument - as
opposed to attempting any sort of realistic argument against the
person calling you on your inane crap - as if you could - ha! Try
again pork pie. You're just ill equipped, is all.


...bsrp
...jlk

the unknown flailer

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On Aug 11, 11:39 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:23:08 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
>
>
>
>
> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 10, 10:39 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:59:58 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
> >> >> * * *
> >> >And a D number no less, in two years? So you're admitting I was one
> >> >hell of a skydiver huh?
>
> >> A D in a couple years and change is nothing special.  It does not
> >> denote a "hell of a skydiver" in any way, shape or form.  So, no.  Not
> >> at all.  
>
> >> >I think your fucked kid,
> >> >out of your leauge.....a D in two years and going static line to earn
> >> >it- - wow, how long it take you?
>
> >> Why is that so important to you, Jinnie?  
>
> >because it bothers you, you are torne between two choices.
>
> But, it doesn't.  That's nothing but a false construct designed to
> make you feel better about yourself - that you have an effect.  You
> don't.  Why would anyone (anyone who wasn't an affirmation starved
> dipshit, dipshit) give a tinker's damn about "how long" it might take
> to get a D license and in that asinine pissing contest you've punted
> to, if such measurements mattered a tinker's damn - which they don't,
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

That D # negates your whole argument that I haven't the practical
experience or credentials to make judgment calls
on who or what makes a otherwise beautiful sport ugly......I think the
D number is credentials enough to have a opinion on how sorry you are
not to mention being a DZ mootcher. Thats why.....I hold a D number
that indicates at least a few years in the sport 2 or 7 years no
difference, I got your number freeloader-------AND THAT BOTHERS YOU
Nanny Nanny Pooh Pooh........give the novices a break GET A JOB and
pay for your own jumps BUM

Jerry K.

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Bullshit. Your own words hammer home the argument that you haven't a
clue, nevermind practical experience, to make judgement calls -
intelligent ones, in any case. You've proved that any idiot can get a
D and you've also proved, just when you open your fat mouth, that you
don't have practical experience - certainly no practical experience to
anticipate what the final outcome to your actions would be. You can
make any "call" all you want - just don't be surprised when they're
revealed for the inane garglings of an affirmation starved poser.
Beauty and ugly are subjective, pork pie, but a license is awarded on
the fullfillment of objective criteria. So, you took a written test,
made a couple hundred jumps (you wouldn't qualify these days, btw),
and did some other shit. So have alot of people. Whoopty shit.
You're still a liar, hpocrite, poser, troll, and racist and realizing
talk is cheap, I can certainly substantiate what I say.

>.....I think the
>D number is credentials enough to have a opinion on how sorry you are
>not to mention being a DZ mootcher.

Shit, pork pie - no one even needs a D license to have an opinion.
That I take you and the stupid things you say to task is all that's
needed for you to come to some "sorry" conclusion and the fact that
you have this idea that I might be able to fly a camera when coupled
with your inate and self-absorbed prejudices is all you need to reach
for the "DZ moocher" strawman. The difference is, for the
reprehensible actions I remind you that you have engaged in, I can
substantiate directly with your own words - which goes the distance
twoards establsihing creedence of an opinion whereas for the
reprehensible actions you merely accuse myself of engaging in, you do
not, nor have you ever, substantiated - and as such remains to this
day as baseless, uninformed, self-absorbed, and ignorant opinion - no
matter what your stupid license might say.

>Thats why.....I hold a D number
>that indicates at least a few years in the sport 2 or 7 years no
>difference,

You made a couiple hundred jumps and change over a couple years and
change and ultimately through your own inability, from lack of
thinking, to inability to react, to lack of execution you couldn't cut
the mustard - you lacked the ability to continue. And that says it
all in terms of just how ill-informed, illegitimate, and inaccurate is
your opinion of skydivers and skydiving. Further, even if you hadn't
ultimately demonstrated yourself as not capable of remaining in
skydiving, your present total of two skydives in the last thirteen and
a half years is another bellweather of just how ill informed and
irrelevant your opinion on skydivers and skydiving actually is -
nevermind that the only experience you've had with skydiving for
almost a decade has simply been reading this backwater of the usenet -
or to put it more accurately, listening to the echoes of your own
inane drivel on this usenet group.

>I got your number freeloader---

Oh, horrors. <sarcasm, dummy> Some two hundred jump wonder who
doesn't know shit from shinola and doesn't skydive says he's "got (my)
number." What ever will I do? Guess I'll just have to exercise the
go make a shitload of jumps this weekend and have a good o'l time
option. No, I got your number, pork pie, and every option you got, as
limited as they are, does not include skydiving.


>----AND THAT BOTHERS YOU

Oh, woe <sarcasm, dummy> so "bothered." Yo, pork pie - if all you got
left is this asinine supposition to clutch to that you got some
"bothering" going on, well, you just clutch to it as hard as you can.
None too zen, budda-kup - "I got some "bothering" going on and are
therefore defined." Ya know, that Falcon canopy? Docile and
forgiving, it is. A gerat canopy for many dropzones AFF operations -
at least, according to the guys who make it. Oh, ROL? Better and
more dependable deployment systems out there. Sitsuits? You forked
over the bucks for one, brand new - 'nuff said. RSL's? Essential for
students and good for low-timers.

>Nanny Nanny Pooh Pooh........give the novices a break GET A JOB and
>pay for your own jumps BUM

Make me, pork pie. What's that? Total ineffectualness and impotence
in not just this backwater ofthe usenet but in the real world, too?
Bummer. Sucks to be you, pork pie.

...bsrp
...jlk

the unknown flailer

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On Aug 11, 11:39 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:23:08 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
>
>
>
> >7 years is certainly long enough to take the pulse and understand a
> >culture (which means my opinions on type of skydiver is
> >correct.
>
> Not that you were in the sport for seven years, mind you.  Your words
> betray you, pork pie. >

>OR


> >2 years earning the D and a National POPS bronze in that short time
> >which makes me a hell of a skydiver for a older guy
>
> Shit, dumbass - if you want to think of yourself as a "hell of a
> skydiver" or the Queen of May for all I care, have a freaking party -
> just don't expect anyone other than yourself to buy it, what with how
> you came to your stupid end in skydiving and what with the stupid
> things you say in here ... and the lies ... and the hypocrisies ...
> and the posing ... and the racism.  And, as ever, deny any of these
> charges and I'll be quite happy to lay it out in black and white, with
> your own words, where these charges are substantiated.  A "hell of a"
> fucking idiot is what you were (and remain to this day), is all.
>
> >and still gives me
> >some DZ time & knowledge to base opinion on. Whichever way you like it
> >you're fucked
>
> Oooo - guess I'll just have to console myself with skydiving with my
> friends, eh pork pie?  No, Jinnie - it is you who are "fucked."  Your
> only skydiving (if one could call it that) outlet is this little
> backwater of the usenet and hear the silence out there, dipshit?
> There's the nut, there's me, and the random three or five who might
> chime in, once in a blue moon.  Gone are the days of "Old Man Snuffie
> Smith," the "old timer," the "coyote with is sheep"  with a loose
> orbit of skydivers playing along with your inane line of crap and
> giving you opportunities to either brag or abuse or bully or play
>
>
>
>

> >> >Yeah you got a problem kid, Big ego & a tight

> >> >butt crack..... while some guy who began in the late 80's to very early 90's, earned his D with a opinion is calling a spade a spade.....And the bottom feeding spade is you chump!!!


>
> Just more lame, rhetorical bullshit, Jinnie.  Retread and it
> illustrates your prejudice so clear - you have this idea that I can
> fly a camera and in your mind, anyone who can fly a camera just has to
> be engaged in nothing but flying a camera and further, that all this

> camera flying is a literal and malevalent siphon of resources out of


> skydivers and skydiving, and that against such malevalence there is no
> defense or recourse.
>

> ...bsrp
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>
> - Show quoted text -

My problem with you flying camera is you do nothing else, whether from
inability or fear of achievement I know not.
I knew plenty of good camera men but they also had JM endorsements or
were riggers sometimes all three.
Your number of jumps and not even a coaching ticket? Under achiever at
the best------incompetent bum at the
best. You do it only because you are to cheap to pay for your own lift
ticket......That makes you a one dimensional parasite in my opinion. A
never do well who will never give back to the sport-----To be expected
I guess from a
cowardly little chicken shit who wouldn't serve their country, even
during peace time-----------Pooooooooooooossy boy

Jerry K.

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Like I said. And this is an opinion? Perhaps based on something
substantive? Like the wealth of experience <sarcasm, dummy> gleaned
on those two skydives you've made over these past 13 years? Have you
actually seen me on a dropzone? Do you even go to dropzones? Are you
sure I've even skydived? The answers, of course, are all a big, fat
no's and this conclusion you've drawn is based on ~only~ the single
substantive thing you have - but won't admit: The Fact that I take
you to task in here for the stupid crap, lies, hypocrisies, trolls,
and racism which you apparently cannot help yourself from spewing for
the attention it gains you. And that's it. Blinkered view, ignorant
conclusion, prejudiced opinion, and wounded ego is what your problem
is, pork pie - not some camera flyer you've never met, never seen, and
probably never will who you've concluded by writ of nothing but
emotion does "nothing else." Log it.

>whether from
>inability or fear of achievement I know not.

And here we return to a prime example of what is nothing but rank
hypocrisy on your part, pork pie. Casting asperision for an alleged
lack of "achievement," which is simply a construct of your feeble mind
and unsubstantiated in any material way. Not that you, of course,
ever "achieved" or otherwise didn't do "nothing else."

>I knew plenty of good camera men but they also had JM endorsements or
>were riggers sometimes all three.

Whereas you ended up with absolutely none of those three. You're a
hypocrite, pork pie.

>Your number of jumps and not even a coaching ticket?

1) Who says I don't?
2) Even if I didn't, it wouldn't stop me from jumping with novices
and students.
and
3) You're basing this conclusion on opinion or something substantive?

>Under achiever at
>the best------incompetent bum at the
>best.

So your opinion tells you, pork pie, and you just clutch hard to this
opinion based on assumptions and pre-ordained conclusions. In the
meantime, I'll just continue having a great time jumping with novices,
with students, and with my longtiome jumper firends. But, on those
notes of underachieving and incompentence, hypocrite, how come you
never even got a S/L rating, huh? Only needed a C for it and how
incompetent was it to make (what turned out to be) that final jump you
made without proacticing on the ground what you intended to do in the
air - specifically, whether you could even unstow both your toggles
and maintain control of them and the canopy, huh? You see, pork pie,
you just throw shit out without substantiation whereas when I nail you
to the wall, I back it up with reality and undeniable fact. You're


just ill equipped, is all.

>You do it only because you are to cheap to pay for your own lift
>ticket..

No, that's a construct in your own mind, pork pie. Ignorance,
prejudice, and opinion making the giant leap to conclusion.

>....That makes you a one dimensional parasite in my opinion.

Ah, then that indeed is high praise coming from an intellectually and
morally bankruptegocentric loser, such as yourself, pork pie. Clearly
a sign that one is on the right track.

>A never do well who will never give back to the sport--

Not that you ever gave "back to the sport," hypocrite, and that said,
how do you know this? Opinion or perhaps you're working with
something substantive? Naw, substance was never your baliwick, pork
pie. You and what you have to work with are by and large
insubstantial.


>---To be expected
>I guess from a
>cowardly little chicken shit who wouldn't serve their country, even
>during peace time-----------Pooooooooooooossy boy

So, your ignorance, prejudices, and rank asusmption bridging the gulf
between supposition and conclusion tell you, pork pie. It's to be
expected from an ill-equipped loser who couldn't argue his way out of
a wet paper bag that he would revert to the tried and untrue ad
hominem line of aspersion without substance. The military knows the
real story, pork pie - but you certainly don't. Now, explain why you
felt so obligated to lie about your time in skydiving - changing two
years and change in skydiving to seven or eight years? Kudso, though
on buying that docile and forgiving Falcon AFF canopy - good lowtimer
parachute for the landing challenged.

...bsrp
...jlk

the unknown flailer

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On Aug 12, 3:21 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:09:08 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
 You're basing this conclusion on opinion or something substantive?
>
> >Under achiever at
> >the best------incompetent bum at the
> >best.
>
> So your opinion tells you, pork pie, and you just clutch hard to this
> opinion based on assumptions and pre-ordained conclusions.  
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
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Its based on 7 years in the sport and CoVan training......not to
mention the wisdom of a long life. If nothing else.
That old saying "If it walks like a duck and talks like a
duck------------>It must be a duck." works for me.
Jeyy K/ quack some more for us! ;)Pfffft

Jerry K.

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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:29:44 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:

>On Aug 12, 3:21�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:09:08 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
> �You're basing this conclusion on opinion or something substantive?
>>
>> >Under achiever at
>> >the best------incompetent bum at the
>> >best.
>>
>> So your opinion tells you, pork pie, and you just clutch hard to this
>> opinion based on assumptions and pre-ordained conclusions. �
>> ...bsrp
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>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Its based on 7 years in the sport and CoVan training.

Blow your stupid "CoVan training" out your ass, poser. Once a liar,
always a liar and you're a proven liar.

Try two and change. And Jinnie
smears himself with shit some more.


http://groups.google.com/group/rec.skydiving/msg/734305368e9cdffa

< Oct 26 1995, 1:00 am>

"Just started two years ago "

Snuffy D-17105

* * *

And here's the entire paragraph for "context," you pathetic liar.

"Yeah, I went static line all the way...Just started two years ago
We used a 182, in Leauge City....5 SL's then a 5 sec FF and on up.
Beaumont still does the Static Line program and I believe Waller does
too."

* * *

You jumped from late 1993 until early 1996. Two years and change.
Then you were out until late 1999 when you made one (count'em) one
spectacularly stupid and ill-planned skydive which ended your
mediocrity (on a good day) in skydiving for good - not that that was
your plan, mind you.

>.....not to
>mention the wisdom of a long life.

You have demonstrated mightily that long life does not automatically
equate to wisdom. There's all those proven lies, hypocrisies, posing,
and general lameass bullcrap. Most people know better. Not you. "I
think I'll make a "comeback" skydive and not practice on the ground
what I'll need to be doing in the air even though I have every
opportunity to prepare. No need to brace this leg which doesn't work
for possible impact. No need to arrange for some sort of single
handed steering system which exists for the mildly disabled. No, I
got it all under control and will be just fine!" How much "wisdom"
was there in that? Not a dmaned bit. Good amount of arrogance,
though - there is that. There's other examples far too numerous to
get into right now which further illustrate this point. When they
were handing out the wisdom you were too busy playing with yourself.

>If nothing else.
>That old saying "If it walks like a duck and talks like a
>duck------------>It must be a duck." works for me.
>Jeyy K/ quack some more for us! ;)Pfffft

Ah, and now we have arrived at the classic dismissal of the messenger
and the message by suggesting any response forthcoming has been
delivered upon command. Blow that out your ass, too, pork pie. You
lie like a liar, pose like a poser, are hypocritical like a hypocrite,
are racist like a racist, and troll like a lameass troll. Dipshit.

...bsrp
...jlk

the unknown flailer

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Aug 13, 2009, 1:51:49 PM8/13/09
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On Aug 13, 12:28 am, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>
> You jumped from late 1993 until early 1996.  

> ...bsrp


> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
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Nope wrong again, to be expected of someone who can't comprehend what
they read.....Life must be tough for you kid, carrying a major
learning disability and dealing with Attention Deficit Disorder at the
same time. I almost feel sorry for you Nottttttttttt Tell you
what, put out some probono video work for the novices and cut the
grass at the DZ a couple of times MAYBE I'LL LEAVE YOU ALONE----------
Notttttttt 0~;)P

Jerry K.

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Aug 13, 2009, 5:56:28 PM8/13/09
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Ah, your projection is stunning, pork piie, and don't you so wish I'd
stop hammering you and your retarded lines of crap and your lies.
They're your words, dipshit. Now, wipe your nose and pay attention as
with the help of your own words, your short amount of time in
skydiving is established.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.skydiving/msg/5460714fac3e6f1a

"I joined the Navy in the middle to late 50's"

* * *

1) This would put your birth as being in the late 1930's or even
early 1940's, depending on how old you were when you joined.

* * *

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.skydiving/msg/b44601f3c64a8ddb

I to went in at the age of 17 & 1 month

* * *

2) This reinforces your birth as being in the late 1930's or even
early 1940's.

* * *

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.skydiving/msg/7b879fb8ae2046a3

"didn't start skydiving till I wuz in my middle 50's!"

* * *

3) If your fjc, supposedly in 1989 or 1990 according to you, is taken
at face value (as if), along with your admission of age when you
joined the navy, this would suggest you were born in 1934 or 1935. An
admission of how old you were when you started skydiving would be
useful.

* * *

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.skydiving/msg/9d51cff65815fb07

"I started at 225 and 54 years old"

* * *

3) If you started skydiving in 1989 or 1990, as you've said, fifty
four years before that would have meant you were born in 1935 or 1936.

4) As you've also said you joined the navy at seventeen years old,
that would put your joining the navy in 1952 or1953.

5) This is denied by your already admitting you joined the navy in
the middle to late 50's at the age of seventeen.

6) Taking all of the above into account, when you joined the navy,
how old you were at the time, and how old you were when you made your
first jump, this points directly to you starting skydiving in 1993 and
is further reinforced by the below.

* * *

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.skydiving/msg/734305368e9cdffa

< Oct 26 1995, 1:00 am>

"Just started two years ago "

Snuffy D-17105

* * *

7) Undeniable

* * *

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.skydiving/msg/6fd93080ba546f0c

"Had my CVA stroke Easter of 96"

* * *

8) Started skydiving in 1993 and for all practical purposes ceasing
in April of 1996 comes to at the very most barely three years but is
much more likely two years and change - my original assertion and
point. It is also an illustration of how much in love you are with
the big lie and how you are thusly, a big, fat liar. But, in the
spirit of your habit and need to split hairs, especially when you're
cornered, I will admit that you started jumping in 1993 and ceased,
except for one stupidly and glaringly amateurish attempt in 1999, in
the first half of 1996. Which still remaiins, two years and change.
Barely three if you made your first jump prior to April 1993. Log
it, pork pie. Or spin some more lies.

...bsrp
...jlk

the unknown flailer

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Aug 14, 2009, 3:44:40 AM8/14/09
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On Aug 13, 12:28 am, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>
> >Its based on 7 years in the sport and CoVan training.
>
> Blow your stupid "CoVan training" out your ass, poser.  
>
> ...bsrp
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Months of physical and mental hell to use against a foreign army &
navy I ended up admiring? No way. Not as long as it piss's fagot
slackers like you off.

Jerry K.

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Try not to confuse "piss's off" with bored to distraction and entirely
inconsequential. And if you admire it, it's gotta be lame. For, you
see, if all this "covan training" was so excellent at prescient
assessment, such as an opinion somehow being legitimate even though it
is based entirely upon the unsubstantive, one would think that such
prescience would have ensured that your most recent skydive, almost
ten years ago, would have been better planned and executed. One would
think it would have disciplined you to learn how to stand up a landing
just a little more swiftly than 80 jumps - or even steer with a riser
when the situation demanded it. One would think that it might have
taught you not to lie to people smarter than you - or not at all. Naw,
all your "Months of physical and mental hell to use against a foreign
army & navy" got you was a leg broken in multiple places and your dumb
ass irrevocably kicked out of skydiving forever. That's all. Your
alleged "covan training," a dubious prospect at best, given how you
turned out, let you down, pork pie, just as it's letting you down
right now. Log it. Dumbass.

...bsrp
...jlk

the unknown flailer

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On Aug 14, 2:18 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:44:40 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 13, 12:28 am, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>
> >> >Its based on 7 years in the sport and CoVan training.
>
> >> Blow your stupid "CoVan training" out your ass, poser.  
>
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >Months of physical and mental hell to use against a foreign army &
> >navy I ended up admiring? No way. Not as long as it piss's fagot
> >slackers like you off.
>
> Try not to confuse "piss's off" with bored to distraction and entirely
> inconsequential.  And if you admire it, it's gotta be lame.  For, you
> see, if all this "covan training" was so excellent at prescient
> assessment, such as an opinion somehow being legitimate even though it
> is based entirely upon the unsubstantive,
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk

Not.......Don has seen my graduation certificate so its substantiated
by at least one Yankee. CIT was just the
foundation, the last 4 years in the Navy I served exclusively with
foreign units.....Talk about a education? They throw
you into a divided country, where at least half the people want to
kill you and everybody on your side speaks broken
English have different customs and halfway hate America
themselves.....You learn to assay people fast or you die.
Who knew the training and field experience would come in handy later
in life....Pissing off bootee boys and bottom feeders like yourself?
Damn, its come in so handy, I'd go through it again if I had to just
for the late life gratification 0~;-*

Jerry K.

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On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:18:56 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:

>On Aug 14, 2:18�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:44:40 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>>
>> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>> >On Aug 13, 12:28�am, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> >Its based on 7 years in the sport and CoVan training.
>>
>> >> Blow your stupid "CoVan training" out your ass, poser. �
>>
>> >> ...bsrp
>> >> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >Months of physical and mental hell to use against a foreign army &
>> >navy I ended up admiring? No way. Not as long as it piss's fagot
>> >slackers like you off.
>>
>> Try not to confuse "piss's off" with bored to distraction and entirely
>> inconsequential. �And if you admire it, it's gotta be lame. �For, you
>> see, if all this "covan training" was so excellent at prescient
>> assessment, such as an opinion somehow being legitimate even though it
>> is based entirely upon the unsubstantive,
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>Not.......Don has seen my graduation certificate so its substantiated
>by at least one Yankee.

That's a non-sequitur, pork pie. The issue isn't whether it exists or
not but how it apparently has been serving you - very poorly.

>CIT was just the
>foundation, the last 4 years in the Navy I served exclusively with
>foreign units.

And when you slip into that dress, you're the Queen of May - whoopty
shit, pork pie. Explain how that legitimizes your demonstratively
uninformed and ignorant opinions. Explain how that assisted in the
planning for your most recent skydive, almost ten years ago.

>....Talk about a education? They throw
>you into a divided country, where at least half the people want to
>kill you and everybody on your side speaks broken
>English have different customs and halfway hate America
>themselves.....You learn to assay people fast or you die.

And these people you were "assaying" you'd never met, never seen,
engaged in activities you were incapable of, engaged in activities you
had dramatically (and messily) failed at, engaging such activities in
places you had not been to in almost ten years. In fact, <sarcasm,
dummy> you were "assaying people" with no substantive information
whatsoever - except for perhaps they were hammering you for your lies
and stupidities?

>Who knew the training and field experience would come in handy later
>in life.

Might have come in handy on that final jump of yours, almost ten years
ago - or was that bit of the "training and field experience" gone over
while you were distracted in how your finger was smelling that day?


Who knew the "training and field experience would come in handy later"

when you were getting busted for outright lies and posing and
hypocrisies? Who could imagine the "training and field experience"
would permit you to be busted in the first place? Or even tempt you
to lie.

>...Pissing off bootee boys and bottom feeders like yourself?
>Damn, its come in so handy, I'd go through it again if I had to just
>for the late life gratification 0~;-*

And "Who knew the training and field experience would come in handy"
in terms of for lack of affirmation, provide you with an affirming
fantasy to fill that void? "Who knew the training and field
experience would come in handy" in terms of ignoring the rank
hypocrisy of taking fullfillment in just the idea of "pissing" anyone
off while at the same time ignoring past pronouncements espousing
"zen" or some such? None too zen, budduh-kup. Sure, you can't
skydive, you're stuck and disabled, you depend on others for food, the
closest thing to skydiving you have is trolling an electronic
newsgroup which ~used to~ be about skydiving but at least you can hold
onto the heart-warming idea that you just must be "pissing off"
someone or another. Tens of thousands of skydivers still skydiving
and having a great time of it despite your inability to participate,
pork pie. And that on balance more than compensates for any lies and
hypocrisies spewed forth on a backwater of the usenet. Life is indeed
very good.

...bsrp
...jlk

the unknown flailer

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On Aug 14, 10:45 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
 Life is indeed
> very good.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk-
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes it is and I'm providing a service, on watch to see if you try to
steal credit for any more gold medals someone else
earned........Idiot ;-P

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