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Julie Bove
Mar 30, 2012, 2:20:52 AM3/30/12
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Yes the obvious reason would be the need to eat. But I have been without it
for so long and now I have it seemingly all the time. I do have
gastroparesis and that can lead to an early feeling of fullness and a lack
of hunger. I had sort of gotten used to it, mainly just eating by the clock
because I would never feel actual stomach hunger. I would sometimes get
what Angela and my mom call "eye hunger". That means you see a food or a
picture of a food or even smell a food and want it even though you know you
aren't really hungry.
I have been having trouble with low blood sugar lately. Either out right
hypos or numbers just dropping below 90 which I'm not supposed to do. So
perhaps that is causing it? Perhaps my gastroparesis is getting better? I
just don't know.
I do know that I am not only feeling hunger but craving foods. Several
times I have had cravings for cashews which I don't normally like at all.
In fact I normal dislike them. Exception being raw, unsalted. Those are
edible. Nothing I would crave. I have been craving the salted roasted ones
like mad. And today it was a craving for black bean soup from Ixtapa
restaurant which is in another city so I didn't get it. I did have some
hummus at home. I had that, pita and celery.
At the moment I am craving a big bowl of popcorn. I do eat popcorn at least
once or twice a week but have to be careful how much I make. Used to be I
didn't have to worry if I made too much because Angela would eat it. Well
she will no longer eat it. She decided she didn't like my pan popped and I
actually haven't liked it much the last few times I made it. I have been
popping it in coconut oil and for some reason it seems to be giving it an
oddly sweet taste which I don't like. And once the coconut oil is gone (or
perhaps even before then) I will be switching to another oil now that we
know Angela is intolerant to coconut.
I do remember feeling this sort of hunger not long after I was diagnosed
with diabetes. I was very careful with my diet, eating exactly as the
dietician told me to do. I used to joke that I was allowed exactly enough
food until my next meal. Because by then I would be ravenous And now I am
feeling the same way. Back then I was losing weight. And I can tell I am
losing weight right now despite eating the extra food (candy) to bring my BG
back up. I had ordered some pants that according to my measurements and
owners reviews were exactly my size. But by the time I got them they were
far too large. I have since ordered the next size down. They fit for about
a week and now they are too large. And old pants that used to fit are also
way too loose. I have not noticed a huge weight loss on the scale although
I did only weigh myself once. I can just tell by the way my clothes are
fitting and the way I look.
So what is causing me to be hungry lately? And if I could get this diet
worked out, I would be very happy. I recently learned that chia seeds are a
form of mint and I am intolerant to mint. I was eating them as a form of
protein because there is so little I can eat now that is protein. No egg,
dairy, chicken or fish. Am also intolerant to some nuts and have OAS to
pistachios and almonds. I have an extreme dislike for all pork products
except for bacon and I can only have it in limited amounts because of the
fat in it. Same for the nuts. Angela is intolerant to lamb, not that I
could afford it or actually eat it since I never have. There is only so
much beef I can eat. I realize that the flax I have added into my diet does
contain some protein. And I have bought some whole wheat pasta to try
again, even though that used to spike me like mad. There is some protein in
that.
for so long and now I have it seemingly all the time. I do have
gastroparesis and that can lead to an early feeling of fullness and a lack
of hunger. I had sort of gotten used to it, mainly just eating by the clock
because I would never feel actual stomach hunger. I would sometimes get
what Angela and my mom call "eye hunger". That means you see a food or a
picture of a food or even smell a food and want it even though you know you
aren't really hungry.
I have been having trouble with low blood sugar lately. Either out right
hypos or numbers just dropping below 90 which I'm not supposed to do. So
perhaps that is causing it? Perhaps my gastroparesis is getting better? I
just don't know.
I do know that I am not only feeling hunger but craving foods. Several
times I have had cravings for cashews which I don't normally like at all.
In fact I normal dislike them. Exception being raw, unsalted. Those are
edible. Nothing I would crave. I have been craving the salted roasted ones
like mad. And today it was a craving for black bean soup from Ixtapa
restaurant which is in another city so I didn't get it. I did have some
hummus at home. I had that, pita and celery.
At the moment I am craving a big bowl of popcorn. I do eat popcorn at least
once or twice a week but have to be careful how much I make. Used to be I
didn't have to worry if I made too much because Angela would eat it. Well
she will no longer eat it. She decided she didn't like my pan popped and I
actually haven't liked it much the last few times I made it. I have been
popping it in coconut oil and for some reason it seems to be giving it an
oddly sweet taste which I don't like. And once the coconut oil is gone (or
perhaps even before then) I will be switching to another oil now that we
know Angela is intolerant to coconut.
I do remember feeling this sort of hunger not long after I was diagnosed
with diabetes. I was very careful with my diet, eating exactly as the
dietician told me to do. I used to joke that I was allowed exactly enough
food until my next meal. Because by then I would be ravenous And now I am
feeling the same way. Back then I was losing weight. And I can tell I am
losing weight right now despite eating the extra food (candy) to bring my BG
back up. I had ordered some pants that according to my measurements and
owners reviews were exactly my size. But by the time I got them they were
far too large. I have since ordered the next size down. They fit for about
a week and now they are too large. And old pants that used to fit are also
way too loose. I have not noticed a huge weight loss on the scale although
I did only weigh myself once. I can just tell by the way my clothes are
fitting and the way I look.
So what is causing me to be hungry lately? And if I could get this diet
worked out, I would be very happy. I recently learned that chia seeds are a
form of mint and I am intolerant to mint. I was eating them as a form of
protein because there is so little I can eat now that is protein. No egg,
dairy, chicken or fish. Am also intolerant to some nuts and have OAS to
pistachios and almonds. I have an extreme dislike for all pork products
except for bacon and I can only have it in limited amounts because of the
fat in it. Same for the nuts. Angela is intolerant to lamb, not that I
could afford it or actually eat it since I never have. There is only so
much beef I can eat. I realize that the flax I have added into my diet does
contain some protein. And I have bought some whole wheat pasta to try
again, even though that used to spike me like mad. There is some protein in
that.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Mar 30, 2012, 6:00:41 AM3/30/12
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Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Yes the obvious reason would be the need to eat.
Source:
>
> Yes the obvious reason would be the need to eat.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/ba7130e69d8b7d49?
Hunger does not indicate a need to eat.
Instead, hunger is the ability to eat combined with the desire to eat.
GOD gives us both the ability and desire to eat now when He blesses us
now (Luke 6:21a)
Therefore, GOD causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3).
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
Mar 30, 2012, 8:57:17 PM3/30/12
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yeast
but not brewer's (food) yeast? Peanuts?
Hungry? Lack of fat in the diet?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Apr 1, 2012, 7:25:42 AM4/1/12
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Julie Bove wrote:
> "I Worry" wrote:
>
> > Have you, or would you have the surgery to rid your body of diabetes?
>
> No.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e210b58e11adddc3?
Indeed, surgery cannot cure your "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2aa0d440720ec54c?
"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?
Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?
> "I Worry" wrote:
>
> > Have you, or would you have the surgery to rid your body of diabetes?
>
> No.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e210b58e11adddc3?
Indeed, surgery cannot cure your "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2aa0d440720ec54c?
"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?
Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?
Julie Bove
Apr 2, 2012, 5:36:39 PM4/2/12
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I have nutritional yeast. Not overly fond of peanuts. Not sure about the
fat in my diet. It is naturally very low in fat. I do try to add fat.
Maybe I'm still not getting enough.
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
Apr 2, 2012, 11:11:38 PM4/2/12
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On Apr 2, 2:36 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
I won't suggest trying brewer's yeast proper but there various types
of nutritional
yeast some I like and some I dislike. I was just trying to "brain
storm"
something to help.
of nutritional
yeast some I like and some I dislike. I was just trying to "brain
storm"
something to help.
Julie Bove
Apr 2, 2012, 11:42:13 PM4/2/12
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<trigonom...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8941beaa-e0f0-4b72...@sv8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
cheeses which I haven't made in a while. Mostly I use it for stuffed
potatoes which we don't have very often.
I must push myself to eat more beans. I will try eating them for breakfast.
Do you think flax seeds would be good with beans?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Apr 3, 2012, 7:01:25 AM4/3/12
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Saxology
Apr 3, 2012, 7:58:17 PM4/3/12
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What causes hunger?
Steak, esp. Porterhouse or Filet
Chocolate
French Fries
Potatoe Chips
Pulled Pork Sandwiches
Onion Rings
....
.... ok, I'm back, had to get a snack
....
Tacos
Popcorn with Butter
Bacon
M&M's (plain, peanut, large bag preferred)
Junior Mints!!!!
At this time of year... PEEPS!
Smores
Grilled Hamburger with Mayo, Lettuce, Tomato
Italian Sub, A good one... with Perogies in butter and onions
Did I mention Chocolate?
Chocolate Milk
The dark meat on a turkey with stuffing
Spaghetti and meat balls/sausage
Grilled ham and swiss sandwich
Fried fish
Diet Mountain Dew
Mr. Pibb
Ice Cold Root Beer
Chasing a hot women around the bedroom (and catching her!)
Other than the last item, the things that cause hunger seem to satisfy it as
well...
Sax
Steak, esp. Porterhouse or Filet
Chocolate
French Fries
Potatoe Chips
Pulled Pork Sandwiches
Onion Rings
....
.... ok, I'm back, had to get a snack
....
Tacos
Popcorn with Butter
Bacon
M&M's (plain, peanut, large bag preferred)
Junior Mints!!!!
At this time of year... PEEPS!
Smores
Grilled Hamburger with Mayo, Lettuce, Tomato
Italian Sub, A good one... with Perogies in butter and onions
Did I mention Chocolate?
Chocolate Milk
The dark meat on a turkey with stuffing
Spaghetti and meat balls/sausage
Grilled ham and swiss sandwich
Fried fish
Diet Mountain Dew
Mr. Pibb
Ice Cold Root Beer
Chasing a hot women around the bedroom (and catching her!)
Other than the last item, the things that cause hunger seem to satisfy it as
well...
Sax
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Jimmy Alpha
Apr 28, 2012, 12:28:37 AM4/28/12
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On 4/28/2012 12:12 AM, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> "I Worry" wrote:
>>
>>> Have you, or would you have the surgery to rid your body of diabetes?
>>
>> No.
It's well known eating a Big Mac doesn't stop starvation any more than
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> "I Worry" wrote:
>>
>>> Have you, or would you have the surgery to rid your body of diabetes?
>>
>> No.
intercourse stops horniness. Hope that helps?
Jimmy Alpha
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Julie Bove wrote:
> "I Worry" wrote:
>
> > Have you, or would you have the surgery to rid your body of diabetes?
>
> No.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e210b58e11adddc3?
Indeed, surgery cannot cure your "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2aa0d440720ec54c?
"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?
Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0e719da5c2d970ca?
> "I Worry" wrote:
>
> > Have you, or would you have the surgery to rid your body of diabetes?
>
> No.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e210b58e11adddc3?
Indeed, surgery cannot cure your "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2aa0d440720ec54c?
"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?
Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Jul 6, 2012, 7:57:00 PM7/6/12
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Julie Bove wrote:
> "I Worry" wrote:
>
> > Have you, or would you have the surgery to rid your body of diabetes?
>
> No.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e210b58e11adddc3?
Indeed, surgery cannot cure your terrible "hunger is starvation"
> "I Worry" wrote:
>
> > Have you, or would you have the surgery to rid your body of diabetes?
>
> No.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e210b58e11adddc3?
delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2aa0d440720ec54c?
"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?
Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?
So don't be an Ayoob:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2aa0d440720ec54c?
"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?
Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/91c1431a6b413912?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Jul 15, 2012, 7:27:34 PM7/15/12
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Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
>
> I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
> insulin tomorrow. But...
>
> I am starving!
No you are not.
> Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
> Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
> I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:
"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
> Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.
If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
> So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.
>
> "I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
>
> I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
> insulin tomorrow. But...
>
> I am starving!
No you are not.
> Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
> Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
> I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:
"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.
If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
> So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Jul 25, 2012, 7:44:50 PM7/25/12
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Jimmy Alpha GeD
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On 8/16/2012 9:01 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "I'm starving!"
Who hasn't felt they were starving!
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "I'm starving!"
> Source:
> https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df465c1?
>
>>
>> I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG
was not
>> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121
before
>> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of
veggies in
>> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
>> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the
breakfast
>> insulin tomorrow. But...
>>
>> I am starving!
Julie, let Jimmy give insight on why you girls feel you're always
>>
>> I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG
was not
>> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121
before
>> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of
veggies in
>> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
>> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the
breakfast
>> insulin tomorrow. But...
>>
>> I am starving!
*starving*.
> No you are not.
You see Dr sightwalker is right, you're not really starving for food,
but *starving* for sex, making baby. Mother nature/evolution over aeons
programed you to know fat was the healthy way to have children. Hence
this is one of the reasons on average the fat women can enjoy sex more
than her skinny counter part. Fat gives you the feeling of security,
skinny and you'll be more suicidal. Why do you think men take ladies out
to eat? It's to ready them for sex! That's why a medium pizza and a
little sex work so well together. Beer gives a filling feeling too and a
little buzz, hence beer is great for sexual stimulation.
This is from Jimmy not some text book but true none the less, I say have
a BLT and beer then go bang them calories off doing your part to make
someone else happy too.
I hope this helps you understand your *starving* is coming from your
loin's, telling you to have beer and get wild! If you *starve* a lot,
drink lite beer and enjoy having the extra pounds pounded off.
The tripe about omars or omers or whatever from sightwalker makes for
wonderful humor, but from a dreadfully sick chap who may only want to
sell you his little diet book.
Do for free as Jimmy tells ya, and make the world a better place...
Jimmy Alpha GeD
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sightwalker with a phd said:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "I'm starving!"
Everyone knows the feeling of starving, it's ok to feel you're starving,
>>
>> "I'm starving!"
but now we must find the "why" for that feeling.
> Source:
> https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df465c1?
>
>>
>> I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG
was not
>> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121
before
>> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of
veggies in
>> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
>> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the
breakfast
>> insulin tomorrow. But...
>>
>> I am starving!
Julie, let Jimmy give insight on why you girls feel you are always
>>
>> I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG
was not
>> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121
before
>> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of
veggies in
>> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
>> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the
breakfast
>> insulin tomorrow. But...
>>
>> I am starving!
*starving*.
> No you are not.
You see Dr sightwalker is right, you're not really starving for food,
but *starving* for sex, making baby. Mother nature/evolution over aeons
programed you to know fat was the healthy way to have children. Hence
this is one of the reasons on average the fat women can enjoy sex more
than her skinny counter part. Fat gives you the feeling of security,
skinny and you'll be more suicidal. Why do you think men take ladies out
to eat? It's to ready them for sex! That's why a medium pizza and a
little sex work so well together. Beer gives a filling feeling too and a
little buzz, hence beer is great for sexual simulations. Remember your
> No you are not.
You see Dr sightwalker is right, you're not really starving for food,
but *starving* for sex, making baby. Mother nature/evolution over aeons
programed you to know fat was the healthy way to have children. Hence
this is one of the reasons on average the fat women can enjoy sex more
than her skinny counter part. Fat gives you the feeling of security,
skinny and you'll be more suicidal. Why do you think men take ladies out
to eat? It's to ready them for sex! That's why a medium pizza and a
little sex work so well together. Beer gives a filling feeling too and a
over eating is basically a substitute for your lack of sex. Hence more
food equals a need for more sex, not a diet.
This is from Jimmy not some text book but true none the less, I say have
a BLT and beer then go bang them calories off doing your part to make
I hope this helps you understand your *starving* is coming from your
loin's, telling you to have beer and get wild! If you *starve* a lot,
drink lite beer and enjoy having the extra pounds pounded off.
The tripe about omars or omers or whatever from sightwalker makes for
wonderful humor, but from a dreadfully sick chap who may only want to
has perhaps died from under eating who may have been under the two pound
diet, we don't want you to be number two.
Do for free as Jimmy tells ya, and make the world a better place.
Jimmy Alpha GeD
Sep 28, 2012, 11:48:42 PM9/28/12
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sightwalker with a phd said:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "I'm starving!"
>>
>> "I'm starving!"
Everyone knows the feeling of starving, it's ok to feel you're starving,
but now we must find the "why" for that feeling.
> Source:
> https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df465c1?
>
>>
but now we must find the "why" for that feeling.
> Source:
> https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df465c1?
>
>>
>> I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG
was not
>> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121
before
>> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of
veggies in
>> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
>> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the
breakfast
>> insulin tomorrow. But...
>>
>> I am starving!
was not
>> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121
before
>> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of
veggies in
>> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
>> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the
breakfast
>> insulin tomorrow. But...
>>
>> I am starving!
Jimmy Alpha GeD
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6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
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Oct 12, 2012, 10:27:36 PM10/12/12
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In article
<5dce132c-3b99-4dca...@y1g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is an ass to pontificate about something of
which he is so apparently totally ignorant, namely the formal education
of children in public schools.
Keith Ayoob is a competent professional at such education.
So on matters of the formal education of children in public schools, A B
Chung knows nothing and Keith Ayoob knows a great deal.
Those, like Idiot B Chung, who pontificate from ignorance, as he is
doing here, make asses of themselves, and also lose whatever credibiiity
they might have in matters where they are less ignorant and stupid.
> So don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:
But not for school children when going to classes.
So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.
"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/
And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson
<5dce132c-3b99-4dca...@y1g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is an ass to pontificate about something of
which he is so apparently totally ignorant, namely the formal education
of children in public schools.
Keith Ayoob is a competent professional at such education.
So on matters of the formal education of children in public schools, A B
Chung knows nothing and Keith Ayoob knows a great deal.
Those, like Idiot B Chung, who pontificate from ignorance, as he is
doing here, make asses of themselves, and also lose whatever credibiiity
they might have in matters where they are less ignorant and stupid.
> So don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:
So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.
"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/
And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Oct 26, 2012, 8:29:18 PM10/26/12
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Uergil
Oct 26, 2012, 10:34:46 PM10/26/12
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In article
<8a2ae8fd-cecd-4b66...@j10g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
<8a2ae8fd-cecd-4b66...@j10g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
> So don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:
oceall...@gmail.com
Oct 27, 2012, 8:04:11 AM10/27/12
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On Oct 26, 9:13 pm, "Dr. Jesus" <bellyfl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Chunk apparently doesn't want people to see this. All the more reason
> to watch.
There's one thing to keep in mind regarding the crackpot physician; in
his mind he is always right. *Always*. That's why he publishes a
letter form his superior telling him he was fired for being an unfit
physician. In his mind they were wrong, they were unfit, they were
all at fault. Everyone was in the wrong, except for him.
Same goes for the voice-mail he posted from a church banning him from
returning. Again, in his mind, he did nothing wrong. He was 100%
right. It's all of them who were wrong, they were unfit, they were at
fault. Everyone is wrong, except for him.
He says pointblank in the interview, that the people who disagree with
him the most, who are against him the most, are actual Christians
regarding his gobbledygook interpretations. But once again, that's
because in his mind, he is right and all of them are wrong.
This is because, in his mind he has convinced himself that his every
thought comes to him directly from God. Therefore since God can't be
wrong about anything, then neither can he be wrong about anything. In
his mind, to disagree with him is to disagree with God Himself.
In his mind, when you're listening to that video, you are listening to
God Himself speaking directly through Andrew B. Chung.
It's all summed up in this short message from Dr. Gene Getz :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcEWZceWhI
Or in this one from pastor Tommy Bertoli:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNu5bC5hT0
Gene Getz: http://ccbt.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7&Itemid=12
Tommy Bertoli: http://www.tommybertoli.com/
Note in the second message how Bertoli talks about arrogance and then
do a Google groups search for how often Chung has been called
arrogant. There's so much of what both Getz and Bertoli say, that
seems to so directly apply to Andrew B. Chung it's as if they are
specifically talking about him . And basically that's exactly what
they are doing.
It gives one an exact blueprint of the sort of individual Andrew B.
Chung is.
Those messages. Combined with his self published letter of termination
and his self published verbal banishment from an ordinary mainstream
orthodox Christian fellowship, tells you all you need to know about
Andrew B. Chung in a nutshell.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0155115b8f5508a8
--
Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD - Behavioral Science.
>
> Chunk apparently doesn't want people to see this. All the more reason
> to watch.
There's one thing to keep in mind regarding the crackpot physician; in
his mind he is always right. *Always*. That's why he publishes a
letter form his superior telling him he was fired for being an unfit
physician. In his mind they were wrong, they were unfit, they were
all at fault. Everyone was in the wrong, except for him.
Same goes for the voice-mail he posted from a church banning him from
returning. Again, in his mind, he did nothing wrong. He was 100%
right. It's all of them who were wrong, they were unfit, they were at
fault. Everyone is wrong, except for him.
He says pointblank in the interview, that the people who disagree with
him the most, who are against him the most, are actual Christians
regarding his gobbledygook interpretations. But once again, that's
because in his mind, he is right and all of them are wrong.
This is because, in his mind he has convinced himself that his every
thought comes to him directly from God. Therefore since God can't be
wrong about anything, then neither can he be wrong about anything. In
his mind, to disagree with him is to disagree with God Himself.
In his mind, when you're listening to that video, you are listening to
God Himself speaking directly through Andrew B. Chung.
It's all summed up in this short message from Dr. Gene Getz :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcEWZceWhI
Or in this one from pastor Tommy Bertoli:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNu5bC5hT0
Gene Getz: http://ccbt.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7&Itemid=12
Tommy Bertoli: http://www.tommybertoli.com/
Note in the second message how Bertoli talks about arrogance and then
do a Google groups search for how often Chung has been called
arrogant. There's so much of what both Getz and Bertoli say, that
seems to so directly apply to Andrew B. Chung it's as if they are
specifically talking about him . And basically that's exactly what
they are doing.
It gives one an exact blueprint of the sort of individual Andrew B.
Chung is.
Those messages. Combined with his self published letter of termination
and his self published verbal banishment from an ordinary mainstream
orthodox Christian fellowship, tells you all you need to know about
Andrew B. Chung in a nutshell.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0155115b8f5508a8
--
Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD - Behavioral Science.
oceall...@gmail.com
Oct 27, 2012, 8:04:48 AM10/27/12
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A crackpot physician spat:
> May GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation
In an interview at 11Alive's studio in Atlanta, GA, a crackpot
physician
said...
"The ones who disagree with me the most... who are against me
gobbledygook interpretations.
His poor standing with actual Christians is further documented in this
transcript from a video that a crackpot physician posted to
GodTube.com and later deleted.
"Andrew Chung, my name is John Day and I'm the director of security at
First Baptist Church, Woodstock.
Andrew, I need to inform you that you're not allowed to come back to
our campus.
I don't want you to show up this weekend, I don't want you to come
back, okay?
That's the decision we're making today. And you need to know if you do
come back,
we'll remove you from the property and beyond that, if you come back,
I will call the police.
Andrew, lets allow this to end peacefully. Allow it to end right now.
Thank you and have a good day."
The Bible says, "While evildoers and impostors will go from bad to
worse, deceiving and being deceived" 2 Timothy 3:13
And that true Christians will be able to spot an impostor like the
crackpot physician and disagree with him,
be against him and cast him out from amongst them.
This is a description of how the crackpot physician operates in a
nutshell; how he mixes lies with the truth and creates his lone
gobbledygook pseudo-theology
Which evidence and his own testimony clearly shows that is thoroughly
rejected by actual Christians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcEWZceWhI
1 Corinthians 12:3:
"Therefore I tell you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God
says, "Jesus be cursed," and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except
by the Holy Spirit"
Regarding the misinterpretation of this Bible verse explained and what
the verse actually means:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LL7AhTdZHas
Proof that just saying the words "Jesus is Lord" without meaning is
meaningless by an atheist saying "Jesus is Lord" over and over again
without meaning it and without being saved by it:
False premise regarding 1 Corinthians 12:3 debunked:
> Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c99eb041e49dd5e1
>
> Non-christian: "Show me LORD Almighty GOD."
>
> Self-proclaimed-christian: "Jesus is LORD."
>
> Non-christian: "So what?"
>
> Self-proclaimed-christian: "Would not have been able to say that without GOD's help."
>
> Non-christian: "Anyone can say that."
>
> Self-proclaimed-christian: "Ok, go ahead and do it for me."
Non-christian/atheist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnl6ucHnSE
> Self-proclaimed-christian:
>
> This study does exclude those of us who are the LORD's
> who simply **prove** we are born again (John 3:3 & 5) by saying "Jesus
> is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation
Why that being able to say "Jesus is Lord" is not proof of being born
again by an atheist saying it over and over.
Non-christian/atheist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnl6ucHnSE
> > Only Satan would try to lull people into a false assurance of
> > Salvation in Jesus Christ, by claiming it's summed up in someone's
> > ability to parrot the second half of a Bible verse.
>
> Only those who work for satan would claim they know what satan would
> do.
Nice try. However, "In order that Satan might not outwit us. For we
are not unaware of his schemes." 2 Corinthians 2:11
**False hope of salvation explained - why just saying "Jesus is
Lord"... like the atheist did.... isn't enough**
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Viiy5qljk94
False interpretation of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit:
> The reason is simply lying to someone in the Holy Spirit is lying to
> the Holy Spirit:
Correct interpretation of Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yWk0PtrhdQ
> May GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation
In an interview at 11Alive's studio in Atlanta, GA, a crackpot
physician
said...
"The ones who disagree with me the most... who are against me
the most, are actual Christians"
'nuff said by the man himself regarding his lone false Biblical
gobbledygook interpretations.
His poor standing with actual Christians is further documented in this
transcript from a video that a crackpot physician posted to
GodTube.com and later deleted.
"Andrew Chung, my name is John Day and I'm the director of security at
First Baptist Church, Woodstock.
Andrew, I need to inform you that you're not allowed to come back to
our campus.
I don't want you to show up this weekend, I don't want you to come
back, okay?
That's the decision we're making today. And you need to know if you do
come back,
we'll remove you from the property and beyond that, if you come back,
I will call the police.
Andrew, lets allow this to end peacefully. Allow it to end right now.
Thank you and have a good day."
The Bible says, "While evildoers and impostors will go from bad to
worse, deceiving and being deceived" 2 Timothy 3:13
And that true Christians will be able to spot an impostor like the
crackpot physician and disagree with him,
be against him and cast him out from amongst them.
This is a description of how the crackpot physician operates in a
nutshell; how he mixes lies with the truth and creates his lone
gobbledygook pseudo-theology
Which evidence and his own testimony clearly shows that is thoroughly
rejected by actual Christians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcEWZceWhI
1 Corinthians 12:3:
"Therefore I tell you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God
says, "Jesus be cursed," and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except
by the Holy Spirit"
Regarding the misinterpretation of this Bible verse explained and what
the verse actually means:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LL7AhTdZHas
Proof that just saying the words "Jesus is Lord" without meaning is
meaningless by an atheist saying "Jesus is Lord" over and over again
without meaning it and without being saved by it:
False premise regarding 1 Corinthians 12:3 debunked:
> Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c99eb041e49dd5e1
>
> Non-christian: "Show me LORD Almighty GOD."
>
> Self-proclaimed-christian: "Jesus is LORD."
>
> Non-christian: "So what?"
>
> Self-proclaimed-christian: "Would not have been able to say that without GOD's help."
>
> Non-christian: "Anyone can say that."
>
> Self-proclaimed-christian: "Ok, go ahead and do it for me."
Non-christian/atheist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnl6ucHnSE
> Self-proclaimed-christian:
>
> This study does exclude those of us who are the LORD's
> who simply **prove** we are born again (John 3:3 & 5) by saying "Jesus
> is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation
Why that being able to say "Jesus is Lord" is not proof of being born
again by an atheist saying it over and over.
Non-christian/atheist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnl6ucHnSE
> > Only Satan would try to lull people into a false assurance of
> > Salvation in Jesus Christ, by claiming it's summed up in someone's
> > ability to parrot the second half of a Bible verse.
>
> Only those who work for satan would claim they know what satan would
> do.
Nice try. However, "In order that Satan might not outwit us. For we
are not unaware of his schemes." 2 Corinthians 2:11
**False hope of salvation explained - why just saying "Jesus is
Lord"... like the atheist did.... isn't enough**
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Viiy5qljk94
False interpretation of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit:
> The reason is simply lying to someone in the Holy Spirit is lying to
> the Holy Spirit:
Correct interpretation of Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yWk0PtrhdQ
Happy Oyster
Oct 27, 2012, 7:37:57 PM10/27/12
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Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
>
> They are healthier as students, than those distracted by hunger.
>
> And that Chung cannot learn this marks him as invincibly ignorant.
"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
>
> > GysdeJongh wrote:
>
> > > And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time
> > > and out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
>
> > Students no longer hungry are no longer healthy
> > GysdeJongh wrote:
>
> > > And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time
> > > and out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
>
>
> They are healthier as students, than those distracted by hunger.
>
> And that Chung cannot learn this marks him as invincibly ignorant.
"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48
Uirgil
Nov 8, 2012, 11:12:13 PM11/8/12
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In article
<fbb5fc2b-037d-4e89...@h9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
<fbb5fc2b-037d-4e89...@h9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> So don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:
> So don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:
But not for school children when going to classes.
So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.
"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/
So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.
"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/
Happy Oyster
Nov 9, 2012, 1:14:23 PM11/9/12
to
On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 19:17:05 -0800 (PST), The Irishman
<black...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>h
There are studies about hunger and brain shrinkage. Like this one:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9754441
<quote>
Psychiatry Res. 1998 Jun 30;82(3):171-9.
Proton magnetic resonance spectroscopy in acute, juvenile anorexia
nervosa.
Schlemmer HP, Möckel R, Marcus A, Hentschel F, Göpel C, Becker G, Köpke
J,
Gückel F, Schmidt MH, Georgi M.
Institute for Clinical Radiology Mannheim, Faculty of Medicine,
University of Heidelberg, Germany. h.sch...@dkfz-heidelberg.de
Abstract
Anorexia nervosa is usually associated with a shrinkage of the brain
that is at least partially reversible with weight gain. The pathogenesis
of this brain abnormality is unclear. The purpose of this study was to
investigate potential alterations in localized proton magnetic resonance
(1H MR) spectra of anorectic patients immediately after an interval of
excessive weight loss. Twelve patients and seventeen control subjects
were examined. Water suppressed 1H MR spectra were recorded from two
voxels placed in the thalamus and in the parieto-occipital white matter.
The spectra of ten patients could be evaluated.
Comparing patients and control subjects, significantly higher signal
intensity ratios of choline containing compounds (Cho) relative to total
creatine (Cr) as well as significantly lower ratios of
N-acetyl-aspartate (NAA) relative to Cho were found in the white matter
region. We hypothesize that these results indicate an abnormal
starvation, associated membrane turnover, which predominantly takes
place in the white matter. No evidence for neuronal degeneration was
found in the thalamus or in the white matter region.
PMID: 9754441 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
</quote>
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/eat.20840/abstract
<quote>
Brain tissue volume changes following weight gain in adults with
anorexia nervosa
Christina A. Roberto MS1,2,*, Laurel E. S. Mayer MD3, Adam M. Brickman
PhD4, Anna Barnes PhD5, Jordan Muraskin BA4, Lok-Kin Yeung BA4, Jason
Steffener PhD4, Melissa Sy BA, Joy Hirsch PhD, Yaakov Stern PhD4, B.
Timothy Walsh MD3
Article first published online: 19 MAY 2010
DOI: 10.1002/eat.20840
Abstract
Objective:
To measure brain volume deficits among underweight patients with
anorexia nervosa (AN) compared to control participants and evaluate the
reversibility of these deficits with short-term weight restoration.
Method:
Brain volume changes in gray matter (GM), white matter (WM), and
cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) were examined in 32 adult women with AN and
compared to 21, age and body mass index-range matched control women.
Results:
Patients with AN had a significant increase in GM (p = .006, ?2 = 0.14)
and WM volume (p = .001, ?2 = 0.19) following weight restoration.
Patients on average had lower levels of GM at low weight (647.63 ± 62.07
ml) compared to controls (679.93 ± 53.31 ml), which increased with
weight restoration (662.64 ± 69.71 ml), but did not fully normalize.
****************************
Discussion:
This study suggests that underweight adult patients with AN have reduced
GM and WM volumes that increase with short-term weight restoration. ©
2010 by Wiley Periodicals, Inc. Int J Eat Disord 2010;
</quote>
Facit: Hunger leads to a irreversible damage to the brain.
##########################################################
<black...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>h
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9754441
<quote>
Psychiatry Res. 1998 Jun 30;82(3):171-9.
Proton magnetic resonance spectroscopy in acute, juvenile anorexia
nervosa.
Schlemmer HP, Möckel R, Marcus A, Hentschel F, Göpel C, Becker G, Köpke
J,
Gückel F, Schmidt MH, Georgi M.
Institute for Clinical Radiology Mannheim, Faculty of Medicine,
University of Heidelberg, Germany. h.sch...@dkfz-heidelberg.de
Abstract
Anorexia nervosa is usually associated with a shrinkage of the brain
that is at least partially reversible with weight gain. The pathogenesis
of this brain abnormality is unclear. The purpose of this study was to
investigate potential alterations in localized proton magnetic resonance
(1H MR) spectra of anorectic patients immediately after an interval of
excessive weight loss. Twelve patients and seventeen control subjects
were examined. Water suppressed 1H MR spectra were recorded from two
voxels placed in the thalamus and in the parieto-occipital white matter.
The spectra of ten patients could be evaluated.
Comparing patients and control subjects, significantly higher signal
intensity ratios of choline containing compounds (Cho) relative to total
creatine (Cr) as well as significantly lower ratios of
N-acetyl-aspartate (NAA) relative to Cho were found in the white matter
region. We hypothesize that these results indicate an abnormal
starvation, associated membrane turnover, which predominantly takes
place in the white matter. No evidence for neuronal degeneration was
found in the thalamus or in the white matter region.
PMID: 9754441 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
</quote>
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/eat.20840/abstract
<quote>
Brain tissue volume changes following weight gain in adults with
anorexia nervosa
Christina A. Roberto MS1,2,*, Laurel E. S. Mayer MD3, Adam M. Brickman
PhD4, Anna Barnes PhD5, Jordan Muraskin BA4, Lok-Kin Yeung BA4, Jason
Steffener PhD4, Melissa Sy BA, Joy Hirsch PhD, Yaakov Stern PhD4, B.
Timothy Walsh MD3
Article first published online: 19 MAY 2010
DOI: 10.1002/eat.20840
Abstract
Objective:
To measure brain volume deficits among underweight patients with
anorexia nervosa (AN) compared to control participants and evaluate the
reversibility of these deficits with short-term weight restoration.
Method:
Brain volume changes in gray matter (GM), white matter (WM), and
cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) were examined in 32 adult women with AN and
compared to 21, age and body mass index-range matched control women.
Results:
Patients with AN had a significant increase in GM (p = .006, ?2 = 0.14)
and WM volume (p = .001, ?2 = 0.19) following weight restoration.
Patients on average had lower levels of GM at low weight (647.63 ± 62.07
ml) compared to controls (679.93 ± 53.31 ml), which increased with
weight restoration (662.64 ± 69.71 ml), but did not fully normalize.
****************************
Discussion:
This study suggests that underweight adult patients with AN have reduced
GM and WM volumes that increase with short-term weight restoration. ©
2010 by Wiley Periodicals, Inc. Int J Eat Disord 2010;
</quote>
Facit: Hunger leads to a irreversible damage to the brain.
##########################################################
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Nov 9, 2012, 8:24:32 PM11/9/12
to
.
Nov 11, 2012, 8:35:27 AM11/11/12
to
A Google search for the word "hunger" in conjunction with the word
"starvation" produced these synonymous results:
"Starvation: The term hunger refers to the symptoms and effects of
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the single
gravest threat to the world"
"Starve | Define Starve at Dictionary.com
to cause to starve; kill, weaken, or reduce by lack of food by hunger":
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/starve
"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics":
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm
"Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger":
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/
"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48
"Hunger Starvation":
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml
"Stop Hunger Now":
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer
Also discovered was:
"OVERWEIGHT DIABETES PATIENTS LIVE LONGER":
http://www.redorbit.com/news/video/health_2/1112679920/overweight-diabetes-patients-live-longer/
"Overweight, obese people living longer even with diabetes":
http://preview.tinyurl.com/9tpfk43
"Study: Overweight People Live Longer":
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20090625/study-overweight-people-live-longer
"Excess Pounds, but Not Too Many, May Lead to Longer Life":
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/26/health/26weight.html
"Portland researchers find slightly overweight people live longer than
normal-weight people":
http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2009/06/portland_researchers_find_slig.html
"A Little Extra Weight Protects People From Early Death":
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090623133523.htm
"starvation" produced these synonymous results:
"Starvation: The term hunger refers to the symptoms and effects of
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the single
gravest threat to the world"
"Starve | Define Starve at Dictionary.com
to cause to starve; kill, weaken, or reduce by lack of food by hunger":
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/starve
"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics":
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm
"Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger":
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/
"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml
"Stop Hunger Now":
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer
Also discovered was:
"OVERWEIGHT DIABETES PATIENTS LIVE LONGER":
http://www.redorbit.com/news/video/health_2/1112679920/overweight-diabetes-patients-live-longer/
"Overweight, obese people living longer even with diabetes":
http://preview.tinyurl.com/9tpfk43
"Study: Overweight People Live Longer":
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20090625/study-overweight-people-live-longer
"Excess Pounds, but Not Too Many, May Lead to Longer Life":
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/26/health/26weight.html
"Portland researchers find slightly overweight people live longer than
normal-weight people":
http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2009/06/portland_researchers_find_slig.html
"A Little Extra Weight Protects People From Early Death":
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090623133523.htm
.
Nov 11, 2012, 3:10:59 PM11/11/12
to
A Google search of "Andrew Chung Starvation" produced the following:
DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479
Ebony Berry, Mom who starved teen daughter Markea to death, linked to
'hunger' cure Doc (Video)
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ebony-berry-mom-starved-teen-daughter-markea-death-linked-hunger-cure-doc-video-article-1.1103172
Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's ...
http://www.atoast2wealth.com/2012/06/27/update-dr-andrew-chung-admits-he-spoke-with-starved-teens-mom-ebony-berry/
Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's mom ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TJE0OPIR81HG0GU23
"Being Hungry is Wonderful": Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as
Part of a “Hunger Cult”
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/woman-starves-her-daughter-to-death-as-part-of-a-cult/#
Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/music/article/2644930/
The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death’
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0
--
Hunger is starvation.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 21, 2012, 11:07:35 PM11/21/12
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Nov 22, 2012, 12:15:16 AM11/22/12
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In article
<c08f30b1-8bd1-4e62...@v9g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
friend and/or patient of ABChung.
--
<c08f30b1-8bd1-4e62...@v9g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier
Not for Markea Blakely-Berry, who was starved to death by her mother, a
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier
friend and/or patient of ABChung.
--
Hunger is starvation
Nov 22, 2012, 12:19:55 AM11/22/12
to
A Google search for the word "hunger" in conjunction with the word
"starvation" produced these synonymous results:
"starvation" produced these synonymous results:
"Starvation: The term hunger refers to the symptoms and effects of
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the
single gravest threat to the world"
"Starve | Define Starve at Dictionary.com
to cause to starve; kill, weaken, or reduce by lack of food by
hunger":
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/starve
"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics":
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm
"Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger":
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/
"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48
"Hunger Starvation":
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml
"Stop Hunger Now":
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the
single gravest threat to the world"
"Starve | Define Starve at Dictionary.com
to cause to starve; kill, weaken, or reduce by lack of food by
hunger":
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/starve
"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics":
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm
"Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger":
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/
"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48
"Hunger Starvation":
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml
"Stop Hunger Now":
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 22, 2012, 7:36:49 AM11/22/12
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Nov 22, 2012, 8:46:16 AM11/22/12
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 23, 2012, 8:39:02 AM11/23/12
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Hunger is starvation
Nov 23, 2012, 8:54:48 AM11/23/12
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Virgil
Nov 23, 2012, 5:00:44 PM11/23/12
to
In article
<af5ffefb-1413-4d68...@k20g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>,
<af5ffefb-1413-4d68...@k20g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
> So don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:
> So don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:
But not for school children when going to classes.
So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.
"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/
So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.
"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/
And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
Hunger is starvation
Nov 23, 2012, 11:13:29 PM11/23/12
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Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
>
> > GysdeJongh wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
>
> > GysdeJongh wrote:
>
> > > And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time
> > > and out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
>
> > > and out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
>
> > Students no longer hungry are no longer healthy
>
> They are healthier as students, than those distracted by hunger.
>
> And that Chung cannot learn this marks him as invincibly ignorant.
>
> They are healthier as students, than those distracted by hunger.
>
> And that Chung cannot learn this marks him as invincibly ignorant.
Happy Oyster
Nov 24, 2012, 3:10:50 AM11/24/12
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 04:36:49 -0800 (PST), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>Being hungry means being able to digest food.
Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung will continue with his crimes until someone
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>Being hungry means being able to digest food.
shows up and nails him to the wall. There once was such an incident.
Chung babbles about it. But he does not say, WHY he was beaten.
Not all fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, oncles, aunts, ... will
stay silent and do nothing. One day, one of the relatives of a victim
will stand up...
If the legal system messes up, like it does for years now, then the
private affairs will happen. And THAT is the guilt of the legal system.
Murderers like Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung must be stopped by the legal
system!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 26, 2012, 4:23:47 AM11/26/12
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Hunger is starvation
Nov 26, 2012, 5:28:09 AM11/26/12
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
> This gentile [false] Christian [self proclaimed] disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
> of foods yesterday
Meanwhile Markea Blakely-Berry is dead at the age of 16, according to
media reports her death is; "linked to '“Hunger Cult” Doc" "Dr. Andrew
Chung" who "is friends with Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter"
> "I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!"
Were those Markea's final words before she died a horrable death from
hunger?
Furthermore, Dr. Andrew B. Chung made the following outrageous and
outlandish statement:
> Markea's ghost will shut that accursed soul up along
> with shutting up all the other accursed souls as she destroys their
> families one by one per command. Vengeance is Mine. I shall
> avenge.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0fbc3a51527114d2
Markea Blakely-Berry's death seems to be big joke to the crackpot
--
"DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER"
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479
"Ebony Berry, Mom who starved teen daughter Markea to death, linked to
'hunger' cure Doc (Video)"
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ebony-berry-mom-starved-teen-daughter-markea-death-linked-hunger-cure-doc-video-article-1.1103172
"Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's ..."
http://www.atoast2wealth.com/2012/06/27/update-dr-andrew-chung-admits-he-spoke-with-starved-teens-mom-ebony-berry/
"Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's mom ..."
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TJE0OPIR81HG0GU23
"Being Hungry is Wonderful": Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as
Part of a “Hunger Cult”
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/woman-starves-her-daughter-to-death-as-part-of-a-cult/#
"Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter"
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/music/article/2644930/
"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0
--
Hunger is starvation.
> This gentile [false] Christian [self proclaimed] disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
> of foods yesterday
Meanwhile Markea Blakely-Berry is dead at the age of 16, according to
media reports her death is; "linked to '“Hunger Cult” Doc" "Dr. Andrew
Chung" who "is friends with Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter"
"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/89b9c70569d587b1
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
> "I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!"
hunger?
Furthermore, Dr. Andrew B. Chung made the following outrageous and
outlandish statement:
> Markea's ghost will shut that accursed soul up along
> with shutting up all the other accursed souls as she destroys their
> families one by one per command. Vengeance is Mine. I shall
> avenge.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0fbc3a51527114d2
Markea Blakely-Berry's death seems to be big joke to the crackpot
--
"DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER"
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479
"Ebony Berry, Mom who starved teen daughter Markea to death, linked to
'hunger' cure Doc (Video)"
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ebony-berry-mom-starved-teen-daughter-markea-death-linked-hunger-cure-doc-video-article-1.1103172
"Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's ..."
http://www.atoast2wealth.com/2012/06/27/update-dr-andrew-chung-admits-he-spoke-with-starved-teens-mom-ebony-berry/
"Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's mom ..."
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TJE0OPIR81HG0GU23
"Being Hungry is Wonderful": Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as
Part of a “Hunger Cult”
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/woman-starves-her-daughter-to-death-as-part-of-a-cult/#
"Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter"
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/music/article/2644930/
"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0
--
Hunger is starvation.
"Starvation: The term hunger refers to the symptoms and effects of
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the
single gravest threat to the world"
"Starve | Define Starve at Dictionary.com
to cause to starve; kill, weaken, or reduce by lack of food by
hunger":
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/starve
"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics":
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm
"Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger":
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the
single gravest threat to the world"
"Starve | Define Starve at Dictionary.com
to cause to starve; kill, weaken, or reduce by lack of food by
hunger":
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/starve
"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics":
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm
"Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger":
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/
"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48
Virgil
Nov 26, 2012, 3:18:06 PM11/26/12
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>
> No you are not. said ABChung.
So why did Markea Blakely-Berry die of starvation?
--
<675be864-4d71-4fd6...@bx4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
> > "I'm starving!" said Markea Blakely-Berry
>
> No you are not. said ABChung.
So why did Markea Blakely-Berry die of starvation?
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 27, 2012, 7:23:10 AM11/27/12
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9:42) death:
Hunger is starvation
Nov 27, 2012, 8:22:22 AM11/27/12
to
pl...@you.com wrote:
>
> Look at Chung, he encouraged a mother to murder her child and now
> gloats over the murder.
>
> Look at Chung, he encouraged a mother to murder her child and now
> gloats over the murder.
Virgil
Nov 27, 2012, 10:30:47 PM11/27/12
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That there are a lot of things one cannot do properly.
Children, especially, do not do well when hungry, so should never be
sent hungry to school.
And anyone, like Chung, who claims otherwise is spreading Evil!
--
<a08dd025-47a2-461e...@d17g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
> Being hungry means
That there are a lot of things one cannot do properly.
Children, especially, do not do well when hungry, so should never be
sent hungry to school.
And anyone, like Chung, who claims otherwise is spreading Evil!
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 28, 2012, 10:12:12 PM11/28/12
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Hunger is fatal
Nov 29, 2012, 12:40:20 AM11/29/12
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pl...@you.com wrote:
>
> Look at Chung, he encouraged a mother to murder her child and now
> gloats over the murder.
>
Samwise wrote:
>
> Look at Chung, he encouraged a mother to murder her child and now
> gloats over the murder.
>
> Dani wrote:
> > Did Chung inspire Markea's murder by starvation?
>
> > > Don't be an Ayoob
>
> > Don't be a Chung hunger cultist and die a horrible death like Markea Blakely-Berry
>
> DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER
> http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479
Indeed, a Google search of "Andrew Chung and Markea Blakely-Berry"
> DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER
> http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479
produced the following results:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 30, 2012, 5:17:23 AM11/30/12
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Virgil
Nov 30, 2012, 5:18:56 PM11/30/12
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classes to do so.
So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.
"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/
<05bc66b6-64e3-4d7a...@y6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
> So don't be an Ayoob
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:
But not for school children when going to classes.
Hungry children in classes don't learn, nor allow others in those
classes to do so.
So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.
"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/
And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Dec 1, 2012, 7:56:47 PM12/1/12
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Virgil
Dec 2, 2012, 12:06:22 AM12/2/12
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Good Christtans are like Keith Ayoob in their care for others,
so Chung is rejecting Christ by rejecting Ayoob.
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:
<c167d986-aef1-42a2...@r3g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
Good Christtans are like Keith Ayoob in their care for others,
so Chung is rejecting Christ by rejecting Ayoob.
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Dec 3, 2012, 6:45:11 AM12/3/12
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Virgil
Dec 3, 2012, 5:59:38 PM12/3/12
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<18a17dc5-5022-45e0...@y6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
<18a17dc5-5022-45e0...@y6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
> So don't be an Ayoob
>
> So don't be an Ayoob
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Dec 4, 2012, 11:27:33 PM12/4/12
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