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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 19, 2009, 12:10:27 PM5/19/09
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... who has been using the GOD-prescribed 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/T3WiJ/Disciples_FLP.jpg

HDL is 76 mg/dL on neither medications nor supplements :-)

And, also this disciple is able to do push-ups while publicly saying
"Jesus is LORD" in multiple different languages:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc

Laus Deo :-)

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com

Atheno

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May 19, 2009, 12:52:03 PM5/19/09
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On Tue, 19 May 2009 11:10:27 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in article <4ef515l8p156pgqds...@4ax.com>):

> And, also this disciple is able to do push-ups while publicly saying
> "Jesus is LORD" in multiple different languages:

And when you finally are able to say publicly that "Harvey is LORD" you will
able to do one-hand push ups.

James Tiberius Kirk

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May 19, 2009, 1:11:45 PM5/19/09
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Andrew Chung:

Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)


Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (#
being a number)


Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days


Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals


Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website


Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)


Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.


Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto
food.


Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe


Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.


Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.


Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.


Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".


Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.


Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.

tr...@finder.com

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May 19, 2009, 1:46:25 PM5/19/09
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"HDL is 76 mg/dL on neither medications nor supplements :-)

And, also this disciple is able to do push-ups while publicly saying
"Jesus is LORD" in multiple different languages:"

Truth:

Sad, really very sad to see what effect the ravages of this disorder can
produce.

We need to pray.

May God bless and protect and heal, Lord have mercy.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 19, 2009, 1:47:40 PM5/19/09
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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4af947fe2c899731?

>
> And when you finally are able to say publicly that "Harvey is LORD" you will
> able to do one-hand push ups.

Already able, in the Holy Spirit, to do infinitely more than you.

May we who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile) continue to be
mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD
desires:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/518c33efe51560d7?

<><

"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen.

A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?

Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?

Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic at any time:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?

What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a
catastrophic Pan-Flu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

How to not be fearful:

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!

http://T3WiJ.com

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://WDJW.net

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks
the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke
24:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?

Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?

Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus
when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Jesus is LORD, forever !!!

http://JiL4ever.net

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What does Jesus want (WDJW) ?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d?

Only GOD can cut the "hunger is starvation" delusion from our hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Olrik

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May 19, 2009, 2:17:40 PM5/19/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4af947fe2c899731?
>> And when you finally are able to say publicly that "Harvey is LORD" you will
>> able to do one-hand push ups.
>
> Already able, in the Holy Spirit, to do infinitely more than you.

Narcissist *and* vain.

Poor crappy Chung.

<snip>

Atheno

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May 19, 2009, 2:29:06 PM5/19/09
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On Tue, 19 May 2009 12:47:40 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in article
<22fd31ca-a298-420b...@b1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>):

> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4af947fe2c899731?
>>
>> And when you finally are able to say publicly that "Harvey is LORD" you will
>> able to do one-hand push ups.
>
> Already able, in the Holy Spirit, to do infinitely more than you.

Then all you have to do say publicly "Harvey is LORD" and you may move up to
the level of Knowing.

ABCHUNG

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May 19, 2009, 3:06:29 PM5/19/09
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In article
<22fd31ca-a298-420b...@b1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:


>
> Already able, in the Holy Spirit, to do infinitely more than you.

The rest of us do no copulate with ghosts.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 19, 2009, 4:29:20 PM5/19/09
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Olrik wrote:
>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4af947fe2c899731?
>>>
>>> And when you finally are able to say publicly that "Harvey is LORD" you will
>>> able to do one-hand push ups.
>>
>> Already able, in the Holy Spirit, to do infinitely more than you.
>
>Narcissist *and* vain.

Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Olrik, so that you would come to trust the
truth:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Olrik

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May 19, 2009, 4:53:37 PM5/19/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Olrik wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4af947fe2c899731?
>>>> And when you finally are able to say publicly that "Harvey is LORD" you will
>>>> able to do one-hand push ups.
>>> Already able, in the Holy Spirit, to do infinitely more than you.
>> Narcissist *and* vain.
>
> Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

That was a fact, not an opinion.

Olrik

<snip>

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 19, 2009, 5:18:20 PM5/19/09
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The fact that you are unable to prove it makes it opinion.

The fact is that where credit for ability is given to the Holy Spirit
there is neither narcissism nor vanity because the Holy Spirit is not
self.

The fact is that the Holy Spirit is real and outside of self as GOD.

The latter two facts have been oft proven thereby proving the first
fact, which invalidates your claim:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BottomLine

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove His point.

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Olrik, so that you would come to trust the
truth:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor,
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon."

Olrik

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May 19, 2009, 5:35:39 PM5/19/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Olrik wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Olrik wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4af947fe2c899731?
>>>>>> And when you finally are able to say publicly that "Harvey is LORD" you will
>>>>>> able to do one-hand push ups.
>>>>> Already able, in the Holy Spirit, to do infinitely more than you.
>>>> Narcissist *and* vain.
>>> Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>> That was a fact, not an opinion.
>
> The fact that you are unable to prove it makes it opinion.

Your post *is* the proof.

Olrik

<snip crap>

Fred Thomas

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May 19, 2009, 5:45:11 PM5/19/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Olrik wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Olrik wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4af947fe2c899731?
>>>>>> And when you finally are able to say publicly that "Harvey is LORD" you will
>>>>>> able to do one-hand push ups.
>>>>> Already able, in the Holy Spirit, to do infinitely more than you.
>>>> Narcissist *and* vain.
>>> Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>> That was a fact, not an opinion.
>
> The fact that you are unable to prove it makes it opinion.
>

Prove an omer of manna weighs 32 oz.


Rev. Karl E. Taylor

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May 19, 2009, 5:42:57 PM5/19/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Olrik wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4af947fe2c899731?
>>>> And when you finally are able to say publicly that "Harvey is LORD" you will
>>>> able to do one-hand push ups.
>>> Already able, in the Holy Spirit, to do infinitely more than you.
>> Narcissist *and* vain.
>
> Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>
> Truth is simple.
>
Then why don't you try saying it sometime?

Oh, that's right, you're a liar, a failure and a fraud. You and truth
have nothing in common.

Get over yourself Andy, you're too fucked up to be taken seriously by
anyone.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
http://azhotops.blogspot.com
A.A #1143 http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology

Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 19, 2009, 5:46:49 PM5/19/09
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Olrik wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/246ade1889ef70ac?

>
> Your post *is* the proof.

The glory is all GOD's since it remains my personal choice to continue
to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in everything said, done,
and written:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Olrik, so that you would come to trust the
truth:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor,
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com

"Don' be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon."

Atheno

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May 19, 2009, 5:49:48 PM5/19/09
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On Tue, 19 May 2009 16:18:20 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in article <4i7615tpcrh2s13kr...@4ax.com>):

> The fact that you are unable to prove it makes it opinion.
>
> The fact is that where credit for ability is given to the Holy Spirit
> there is neither narcissism nor vanity because the Holy Spirit is not
> self.
>
> The fact is that the Holy Spirit is real and outside of self as GOD.

The fact is also Harvey is the older brother of Jesus. That is a proven fact.

Olrik

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May 19, 2009, 6:10:21 PM5/19/09
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Yup.

And Chung should also mentions why he thinks that the verse number 32
represent ounces, and not another unity. What an insane little puppy...

Olrik

MM

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May 19, 2009, 6:26:09 PM5/19/09
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Maybe need to Google Alcohol-Related Psychosis ????????

Chung

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May 19, 2009, 6:30:15 PM5/19/09
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In article <jf5615lkksn41i6s5...@4ax.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote:


> >>
> >> Already able, in the Holy Spirit, to do infinitely more than you.
> >
> >Narcissist *and* vain.
>

> Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless.

Even with his LAIRD's help,the opinions of "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
aren't worth the electrons or seconds he wastes in posting them.
>
> Truth is simple.

Much too much so for "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" ever to grasp any of it.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 19, 2009, 6:40:44 PM5/19/09
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Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/246ade1889ef70ac?

>
>Prove an omer of manna weighs 32 oz.

GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either prove or
convince:

"An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit (referring to
Exodus 16:36)

Amen.

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the

ABCHUNG

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May 19, 2009, 6:52:45 PM5/19/09
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In article <4i7615tpcrh2s13kr...@4ax.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote:

> >That was a fact, not an opinion.
>
> The fact that you are unable to prove it makes it opinion.

Then the demonstrable inability of any theists to prove existence of
their deities makes any claims of existence of those deities mere
opinion.

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" hoist with his own petard!

ABCHUNG

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May 19, 2009, 6:54:45 PM5/19/09
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In article <hu9615h828ou3g9ci...@4ax.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote:


> May GOD soften your heart, Olrik, so that you would come to trust the
> truth:

In order for him ever to accept your claims as truth, your alleged god
would have to soften Olrik's head, too.

ABCHUNG

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May 19, 2009, 6:57:30 PM5/19/09
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In article <f0d6159bd2ivf5os7...@4ax.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote:

> Fred Thomas wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/246ade1889ef70ac?
> >
> >Prove an omer of manna weighs 32 oz.
>
> GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either prove or
> convince

And how did "God" tell you this? By email?

Alao, to be able to inform anyone, one must have knowledge the other
does not, but what "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" has is mere faith without
any knowledge whatsoever.

Fred Thomas

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May 19, 2009, 6:59:55 PM5/19/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/246ade1889ef70ac?
> >
>> Prove an omer of manna weighs 32 oz.
>
> GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either prove or
> convince:
>
> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit (referring to
> Exodus 16:36)
>

So your making it up then, I thought so.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 19, 2009, 7:25:48 PM5/19/09
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Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/246ade1889ef70ac?
>> >
>>> Prove an omer of manna weighs 32 oz.
>>
>> GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either prove or
>> convince:
>>
>> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit (referring to
>> Exodus 16:36)
>>
>> Amen.
>
>So your making it up then ...

Incorrect.

The Holy Spirit has made it up.

HE is the Author of all reality afterall :-)

HE is the Spirit of truth.

Truth is simple :-)

Bottom line:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BottomLine

Fred Thomas

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May 19, 2009, 7:43:58 PM5/19/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/246ade1889ef70ac?
>>> >
>>>> Prove an omer of manna weighs 32 oz.
>>> GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either prove or
>>> convince:
>>>
>>> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit (referring to
>>> Exodus 16:36)
>>>
>>> Amen.
>> So your making it up then ...
>
> Incorrect.
>
> The Holy Spirit has made it up.
>

What spirit? Scotch? Jack Daniels? If you consider a spirit a god, you have a
problem.


That's what I thought, your making it up.
Sure Andy, lets do that for all words! Try this one on for size. For God so
lived the world he gave his only begotten son. Lets substitute Satan for God
now. For Satan so loved the world he gave his only begotten son. Damn Andy It
works!!!! Fact is Andy, as has been shown on a number of occasions, an omer is
not a weight measure, it is a dry measure. Changing the word to 32 ounces does
not make it all better.

Look, here is a ball, it bounces. Go play.

Virgil

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May 20, 2009, 12:45:35 AM5/20/09
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In article <gnf6151b92bl8fksi...@4ax.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote:


> >
> >So your making it up then ...
>
> Incorrect.
>
> The Holy Spirit has made it up.

Making thing up is naughty regardless of who does it.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 20, 2009, 2:53:21 AM5/20/09
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Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Fred Thomas wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> Fred Thomas wrote:
> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/246ade1889ef70ac?
> >>> >
> >>>> Prove an omer of manna weighs 32 oz.
> >>>
> >>> GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either prove or
> >>> convince:
> >>>
> >>> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit (referring to
> >>> Exodus 16:36)
> >>>
> >>> Amen.
> >>
> >> So your making it up then ...
> >
> > Incorrect.
> >
> > The Holy Spirit has made it up.
>
> What spirit?

See above.

The Holy Spirit is the One Who keeps you from publicly saying "Jesus
is LORD" as has been oft the subject of written discussion here:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the

truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor

James Tiberius Kirk

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote in message
news:4i7615tpcrh2s13kr...@4ax.com...

> Olrik wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Olrik wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4af947fe2c899731?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And when you finally are able to say publicly that "Harvey is LORD"
>>>>>> you will
>>>>>> able to do one-hand push ups.
>>>>>
>>>>> Already able, in the Holy Spirit, to do infinitely more than you.
>>>>
>>>> Narcissist *and* vain.
>>>
>>> Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>>
>>That was a fact, not an opinion.
>
> The fact that you are unable to prove it makes it opinion.

Sort of like the opinion of Jesus.

Andrew Chung:

Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)


Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (#
being a number)


Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days


Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals


Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website


Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)


Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.


Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto
food.


Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe


Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.


Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.


Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.


Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".


Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.


Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.

Fred Thomas

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May 20, 2009, 6:09:04 AM5/20/09
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/246ade1889ef70ac?
>>>>> >
>>>>>> Prove an omer of manna weighs 32 oz.
>>>>> GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either prove or
>>>>> convince:
>>>>>
>>>>> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit (referring to
>>>>> Exodus 16:36)
>>>>>
>>>>> Amen.
>>>> So your making it up then ...
>>> Incorrect.
>>>
>>> The Holy Spirit has made it up.
>> What spirit?
>

What spirit? Scotch? Jack Daniels? If you consider a spirit a god, you have a
problem.

HotelCharlieOne

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May 20, 2009, 9:17:18 AM5/20/09
to
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote in
news:4ef515l8p156pgqds...@4ax.com:

> HDL is 76 mg/dL on neither medications nor supplements :-)
>

So what my LDL + HDL is only 95 and I take no drugs. (The dead carpenter
cannot control my cholesterol)

I don't play the 2 pounds of bullshit every day game, although my *real
MD* thought that was a real laugher.

I can say and even type "JESUS IS LORD" in all caps no less, I just can't
do without breaking out into a good grin. <grin>

So Andy More-Dung/Piled-higher-Deeper, put a sock in it.


--
Putting the Tree of Knowledge in the Garden of Eden
and telling Eve not to touch it is as morally
bankrupt as putting a loaded gun in a room full of
three year olds and telling them not to touch it.

ABCHUNG

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May 20, 2009, 4:54:51 PM5/20/09
to
In article
<e533b9d4-866c-4fb0...@r34g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:


> May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
> truth, Who is Jesus:

If Fred's heart ever gets as soft as "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"'s head,
he will need a transplant.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 20, 2009, 9:11:24 PM5/20/09
to
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/198c4b5601263540?

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com

"Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

ABCHUNG

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May 20, 2009, 10:16:38 PM5/20/09
to
In article
<77b4e4a0-ca39-40e1...@t10g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:


>
> Truth is simple.

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" is too. And too much so to find any truth
anywhere.
>
> May GOD soften your heart

"God", or at least something, has softened "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"'s
head.


> http://T3WiJ.com
>
> Amen.
>
> Love incest,


>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

> Bored-certified Hearth Doctor
> and Author of "Be Angry"

Fred Thomas

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May 21, 2009, 6:05:38 AM5/21/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 21, 2009, 6:38:02 AM5/21/09
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Fred Thomas wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/198c4b5601263540?
> >
> > Truth is simple.
>
> What spirit?

The truth is Jesus and not a spirit.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the

truth:

Atheno

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May 21, 2009, 9:14:19 AM5/21/09
to
On Thu, 21 May 2009 05:05:38 -0500, Fred Thomas wrote
(in article <gv391l$kcv$2...@news.eternal-september.org>):

> problem.

Chung has stopped drinking and does not even take sacramental wine in his
church.

Fred Thomas

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May 21, 2009, 4:18:45 PM5/21/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/198c4b5601263540?
>>>
>>> Truth is simple.
>> What spirit?
>
> The truth is Jesus and not a spirit.
>

So then he's concrete?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 21, 2009, 5:22:27 PM5/21/09
to
Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/198c4b5601263540?
>>>>
>>>> Truth is simple.
>>>
>>> What spirit?
>>
>> The truth is Jesus and not a spirit.
>
>So then he's concrete?

HE is the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

Bottom line:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BottomLine

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor

http://EmoryCardiology.com

James Tiberius Kirk

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May 21, 2009, 5:38:59 PM5/21/09
to

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote in message
news:gbhb15lfqrfspvsol...@4ax.com...

> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/198c4b5601263540?
>>>>>
>>>>> Truth is simple.
>>>>
>>>> What spirit?
>>>
>>> The truth is Jesus and not a spirit.
>>
>>So then he's concrete?
>
> HE is the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

Proof? None? So then it's opinion....according to *you*.

anon...@nowhere.you.know

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May 21, 2009, 5:41:29 PM5/21/09
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Fighting anti-psychotic drug weight gain

http://www.marketwatch.com/m/story/8312aa80-1224-4e8a-ae6a-564a26f8094c

The above story points to a problem with this form of drug use.

Let us say someone on one of them discovers one day that they have
gained, oh let's say 20 pounds, over there usual weight.

Knowing that weight gain has added health risk they begin a program to
invent a way to reduce the gain.

A calorie restriction diet that has, oh let us say 1800 calories per
day, would suffice to produce a weight status in the normal range for
someone in the average height and activity category.

Once finding it works
to restrict calories one then might be led by one's mental challenge to
intermingle distortions of thought with scientific and other knowledge
to invent an explanation of what had happened.

One would want also to share that new invention not realizing that the
intermingled distortions would be ever so evident to others
knowledgeable in such matters.

That distortion of thought processes would lead to thoughts of being a
victum when the flaws of fact and logic in that invented idea were
presented.

This of course only leading to ever more consideration of the
distortions of thought involved in the entire set of events.

Fred Thomas

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May 21, 2009, 9:26:30 PM5/21/09
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/198c4b5601263540?
>>>>>
>>>>> Truth is simple.
>>>> What spirit?
>>> The truth is Jesus and not a spirit.
>> So then he's concrete?
>
> HE is the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
>

Then he is not the "holy spirit".

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 22, 2009, 3:32:56 AM5/22/09
to

Different Persons... same GOD.

GOD in three Persons.

There is GOD the Father, GOD the Son, and GOD the Holy Spirit

We, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), are simply citizens of
the kingdom of GOD.

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the

truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor

and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com

Fred Thomas

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May 22, 2009, 6:06:03 AM5/22/09
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/198c4b5601263540?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Truth is simple.
>>>>>> What spirit?
>>>>> The truth is Jesus and not a spirit.
>>>> So then he's concrete?
>>> HE is the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
>> Then he is not the "holy spirit".
>
> Different Persons... same GOD.
>
> GOD in three Persons.
>
> There is GOD the Father, GOD the Son, and GOD the Holy Spirit
>
So your version is a god dude that has a multiple personality disorder. No
wander you are confused! Hey did you know that god dude you believe in was most
likely thought up by the Hindus first?


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 22, 2009, 6:26:20 AM5/22/09
to
Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Fred Thomas wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> Fred Thomas wrote:
> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
> >>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/198c4b5601263540?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Truth is simple.
> >>>>>> What spirit?
> >>>>> The truth is Jesus and not a spirit.
> >>>> So then he's concrete?
> >>> HE is the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
> >> Then he is not the "holy spirit".
> >
> > Different Persons... same GOD.
> >
> > GOD in three Persons.
> >
> > There is GOD the Father, GOD the Son, and GOD the Holy Spirit
>
> So your version is a god dude that has a multiple personality disorder.

Incorrect.

The LORD Almighty GOD is simply the Author of all reality.

HE is the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Many of us who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), each serve as
dad, son, and counselor. Since it is possible for us to do this, it
is infinitely more possible for GOD to do this and indeed HE is doing
this.

Those like you who would deny this, are disconnected from reality and
are therefore delusional and in danger of mental illness:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3238bedb3f52c95f?

Atheno

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May 22, 2009, 8:11:31 AM5/22/09
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On Fri, 22 May 2009 02:32:56 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in article
<4925c672-102e-4e74...@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>):

> We, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), are simply citizens of
> the kingdom of GOD.

So, Chung do you go to church. Seems you should be going to church with your
beliefs. Maybe, what you are "preaching" is just spam

Atheno

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May 22, 2009, 8:21:12 AM5/22/09
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On Fri, 22 May 2009 05:26:20 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in article
<fc6436d8-9c48-42d5...@u8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>):

> Many of us who are Christians

But evidently not one of the church going Christians.

"A lack of response is far more revealing" Holy Spirit

dolf

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May 22, 2009, 12:10:53 PM5/22/09
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Just the other day I sat in a cafe opposite Saint Vincents
Hospital--we'd invited a drug addict to breakfast who had just said good
morning to us along the way.

He was elated to be there and entertained us with prattle.

Ah yes, I said me mate here has been especially trained in the art as
tactic in 'doing' you over.

The next day the young police woman was mugged.

I later inquired whether he knew the perpetrator of the crime beyond
what he had sought to obtain from news reports and whether there was any
neural linguistic trigger due to his being in a continued state of
auto-intoxication with tobacco, alcohol and drugs.

No was the answer!

Beyond that, there is no further association between us.

"Simon Wessely, professor of psychiatry at Kings College, London, who
has studied cultural trends in illness, says: "People will always seek
explanations when they feel under the weather or not quite right. Much
of it depends on what is currently hot in medicine. Each age and each
culture has its own answers.

"Doctors use many different labels to describe patients with unexplained
symptoms - somatisation, burnout, chronic fatigue syndrome, multiple
chemical sensitivity, subclinical depression, post-traumatic stress
disorder, low blood pressure, spasmophilia - despite no evidence that
any of these are distinct or separate entities. Our belief is that most
of these labels refer to similar clinical problems."

The choice of label has profound implications for how patients deal with
their symptoms and the treatment they expect from doctors.

"Clearly someone who believes their symptoms are due to spasmophilia or
low blood pressure will seek different treatments from someone who
believes they have a food allergy or chemical sensitivity. Public health
measures will also differ, and the resulting controversy and political
indecision can cause ill feeling, distrust and suspicion," says Wessely.

Bowels: In Britain, there is an obsession with bowels which extends back
to the 19th century, when a condition called intestinal
auto-intoxication - self-poisoning from one's own retained wastes - was
widely diagnosed, especially in young women."

http://www.themercury.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=4964705

Same symptoms can get a different diagnosis, May 05, 2009 Jeremy
Laurance Edition 1 � 1999 - 2009 Mercury & Independent Online (Pty) Ltd.
All rights reserved.

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Please read our Terms and Conditions of Use and Privacy Policy.

Barry OGrady wrote:
> On Fri, 22 May 2009 04:33:42 GMT, dolf <dolf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> By the way, I've just had to tell Wayside Chapel, that in having
departed from the State of Victoria due to a culture of religious,
racial and sexual vilification (ie. a zeitgeist as specter of evil
created by systemic Irish Catholic sexual abuse and diaspora all this
happening during World War I and II and now this holy war over God's
syllogistic definition of piety-monogenes derived from
marriage-monogamous gamogenesis) against Islamic ideology), that it is a
bit persecutory to have their street kids coming to my door every day
and also telephoning me with the latest tragedy (ie. a death in the
family the latest) in their life circumstance.
>>
>> As if this nothingness of their own creation ought to be the source
of so much angst and puerility ...
>
> Still bonking street kid Dolt?
>
> Shame on you.
>
> Barry
> =====
> Home page
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og

Fred Thomas

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May 22, 2009, 4:55:42 PM5/22/09
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/198c4b5601263540?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Truth is simple.
>>>>>>>> What spirit?
>>>>>>> The truth is Jesus and not a spirit.
>>>>>> So then he's concrete?
>>>>> HE is the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
>>>> Then he is not the "holy spirit".
>>> Different Persons... same GOD.
>>>
>>> GOD in three Persons.
>>>
>>> There is GOD the Father, GOD the Son, and GOD the Holy Spirit
>> So your version is a god dude that has a multiple personality disorder.
>
> Incorrect.
>
> The LORD Almighty GOD is simply the Author of all reality.
>

Thats a very strange reality.


> HE is the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

So if he is a father and son, who is his father? What type of spirit, scotch?

>
> Many of us who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), each serve as
> dad, son, and counselor. Since it is possible for us to do this, it
> is infinitely more possible for GOD to do this and indeed HE is doing
> this.
>

Your god does not exist, so no he does not and neither do you.

> Those like you who would deny this, are disconnected from reality and
> are therefore delusional and in danger of mental illness:
>

Funny how you would claim others of being in danger of mental illness, when it
very much appears that you are in fact mentally ill.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 22, 2009, 6:31:21 PM5/22/09
to
Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/07d2ba495691c152?

>
>Thats a very strange reality.

Not for the discerning.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly demonstrate that as a creature of darkness, you
remain in need of GOD's salvation:

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with GOD, and the
Word was GOD. HE was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things
were made; without Him nothing was made that has been made. In Him was
life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the
darkness, but the darkness has not understood it." (John 1:1-5)

Amen.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the

truth:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Cardiologist,


and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ...

... ----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

Fred Thomas

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May 22, 2009, 6:41:55 PM5/22/09
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/07d2ba495691c152?
>> Thats a very strange reality.
>
> Not for the discerning.
>

Your not discerning, your ill.

> Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
> you to unwittingly demonstrate that as a creature of darkness, you
> remain in need of GOD's salvation:
>

News flash, god is not real, there is no salvation, the only darkness here is
your holding on to thousands years old myths and superstitions.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 22, 2009, 8:14:38 PM5/22/09
to
Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Fred Thomas wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/07d2ba495691c152?
> >>
> >> Thats a very strange reality.
> >
> > Not for the discerning.
>
> Your not discerning ...

Incorrect:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3fa4ecde07979a5a

> ... your ill.

Incorrect again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc

> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
> > you to unwittingly demonstrate that as a creature of darkness, you
> > remain in need of GOD's salvation:
> >

> > "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with GOD, and the
> > Word was GOD. HE was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things
> > were made; without Him nothing was made that has been made. In Him was
> > life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the
> > darkness, but the darkness has not understood it." (John 1:1-5)
> >
> > Amen.
>

> News flash, god is not real, there is no salvation...

Incorrect yet again:

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven

> ... the only darkness here is


> your holding on to thousands years old myths and superstitions.

You remind me of the man who, blind from birth, would deny the
existence of light and darkness simply because he has never seen it.
Just as this man's denial of light and darkness did not trouble the
seeing, your denial of the truth does not trouble those of us who are
discerning:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/198c4b5601263540?

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor


and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ...

Worf son of Mohg

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May 22, 2009, 8:56:37 PM5/22/09
to

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:40fd82cd-5886-4b6d...@g1g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Fred Thomas wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/07d2ba495691c152?
>> >>
>> >> Thats a very strange reality.
>> >
>> > Not for the discerning.
>>
>> Your not discerning ...
>
> Incorrect:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3fa4ecde07979a5a
>
>> ... your ill.
>
> Incorrect again:

You're completely ill. Pathological liars are ill.
You need to come to terms with your denial.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 22, 2009, 11:56:08 PM5/22/09
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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:> > Fred Thomas wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > Fred Thomas wrote:
> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/07d2ba495691c152?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thats a very strange reality.
> >> >
> >> > Not for the discerning.
> >>
> >> Your not discerning ...
> >
> > Incorrect:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3fa4ecde07979a5a
> >
> >> ... your ill.
> >
> > Incorrect again:
>
> You're completely ill.

Lie.

> Pathological liars are ill.

That would be you:

"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your
father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to
the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his
native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." -- LORD
Jesus Christ (John 8:44).

May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to
be mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as
GOD desires:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/518c33efe51560d7?

<><

"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen.

A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?

Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?

Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic at any time:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?

What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a
catastrophic Pan-Flu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

How to not be fearful:

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!

http://T3WiJ.com

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://WDJW.net

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks
the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke
24:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?

Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?

Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus
when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Jesus is LORD, forever !!!

http://JiL4ever.net

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What does Jesus want (WDJW) ?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d?

Sanity's Little Helper

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It is an ancient Atheno <ath...@imatheno.com>, and he posteth:

Church threw him out, and their head of security threatened to call the
police if he returned. He is proud of this fact, that should tell you all
you need to know about the state of his mental health.

--
David Silverman
aa #2208
Defender of Civilisation
if a tree falls in the woods, what are the odds it will land in some bear
shit ?

Not authentic without this signature.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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... to unwittingly make essentially a written self-declaration of
insanity:

an atheist and sockpuppet of satan despairing posted:
> another sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:


> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >

> >> We, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), are simply citizens of
> >> the kingdom of GOD.
> >
> > So, Chung do you go to church.

Where two of more true Christians gather and share about Jesus, there
is church.

This the Holy Spirit guides me to do nearly daily as He continues to
lead me to ask those around me "Can you say 'Jesus is LORD' ?" thereby
discovering others who have also been saved by Jesus in order to share
about His written Word especially 1 Cor 12:3.

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)

Amen.

>> Seems you should be going to church with your
>> beliefs.

See above.

>> Maybe, what you are "preaching" is just spam

GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to preach.

> Church threw him out, and their head of security threatened to call the
> police if he returned.

The pseudo-christians were unable to prevent this disciple of Jesus
from returning to their campus.

> He is proud of this fact, that should tell you all
> you need to know about the state of his mental health.

It remains my personal choice to refrain from being religious because
GOD does not favor any religion in this world:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ce5f55696a2332e3?

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling

you to unwittingly make what is in essence a self-declaration of
insanity by attempting to label this disciple insane for choosing to
not be religious when you and other atheists would claim that you are
not religious.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/518c33efe51560d7?

<><

Amen.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

http://T3WiJ.com

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

http://WDJW.net

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?

Amen.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

http://JiL4ever.net

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Atheno

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On Sat, 23 May 2009 09:11:54 -0500, Sanity's Little Helper wrote
(in article <d51erwr5x1b2$.174c6qcj...@40tude.net>):

> It is an ancient Atheno <ath...@imatheno.com>, and he posteth:
>
>> On Fri, 22 May 2009 02:32:56 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
>> (in article
>> <4925c672-102e-4e74...@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>):
>>
>>> We, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), are simply citizens of
>>> the kingdom of GOD.
>>
>> So, Chung do you go to church. Seems you should be going to church with
>> your
>> beliefs. Maybe, what you are "preaching" is just spam
>
> Church threw him out, and their head of security threatened to call the
> police if he returned. He is proud of this fact, that should tell you all
> you need to know about the state of his mental health.

Then he is in big trouble. Chung is not doing as Jesus would like him to do.

Matthew 16:18

And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church,
and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

No doubt he will ignore this or give his usual babble.

Atheno

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May 23, 2009, 11:03:16 AM5/23/09
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On Sat, 23 May 2009 09:55:54 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in article
<516ab470-4054-4264...@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>):

> Where two of more true Christians gather and share about Jesus, there
> is church.

That is not true.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 23, 2009, 11:24:15 AM5/23/09
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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/846aaf4916511265?

> >
> > Where two of more true Christians gather and share about Jesus, there
> > is church.
>
> That is not true.

Lie.

"For where two or three come together in My Name, there am I with
them." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 18:20)

Amen.

For those of us who are true Christians (either Jew or gentile),
church is always with Jesus, Who is our Priest of GOD, and not in a
church building without Him.

This church, which is embodied in being mindful of WDJW, is built on
the story of Peter being mindful of WDJW when he chose to step out
onto the water to walk toward Jesus:

http://WDJW.net

Atheno

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May 23, 2009, 11:47:17 AM5/23/09
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On Sat, 23 May 2009 10:24:15 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in article
<4a50a301-b588-479e...@c36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>):

> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/846aaf4916511265?
>>>
>>> Where two of more true Christians gather and share about Jesus, there
>>> is church.
>>
>> That is not true.
>
> Lie.
>
> "For where two or three come together in My Name, there am I with
> them." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 18:20)

Matthew 16:18

"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church,
and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."


Jesus may be with two or more people, but that is not a church which is
BUILT.

If you want to think differently, then go ahead but then it will not be as
written in Matthew 16:18

That is the simple truth.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 23, 2009, 12:07:59 PM5/23/09
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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/95322c9f57a465d6?

>>>>
>>>> Where two of more true Christians gather and share about Jesus, there
>>>> is church.
>>>
>>> That is not true.
>>
>> Lie.
>>
>> "For where two or three come together in My Name, there am I with
>> them." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 18:20)

Amen.

> Matthew 16:18
>
>"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church,
>and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."

Amen.

>Jesus may be with two or more people, but that is not a church which is
>BUILT.

WDJW is the name of the spiritual church that has been built on the
reality of Peter being mindful of WDJW as he stepped out onto the


water to walk toward Jesus:

http://WDJW.net

>If you want to think differently, then go ahead but then it will not be as

>written in Matthew 16:18

The spiritual church that we now know to be WDJW has been built in
accord with what is written in Matthew 16:18 and indeed nothing of
this world can prevail against WDJW because it is completely
spiritual.

>That is the simple truth.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly confirm that what the Holy Spirit has guided this
disciple to write is indeed true.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/518c33efe51560d7?

<><

Amen.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

http://T3WiJ.com

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

http://WDJW.net

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?

Amen.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

http://JiL4ever.net

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Andrew <><
--


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor

Atheno

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May 23, 2009, 12:35:05 PM5/23/09
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On Sat, 23 May 2009 11:07:59 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in article <c17g15p3aeic4eqog...@4ax.com>):

> WDJW is the name of the spiritual church that has been built on the
> reality of Peter being mindful of WDJW as he stepped out onto the
> water to walk toward Jesus:

If that is what you want to think, then go ahead, but build on a rock means a
structure actually built.

Sanity's Little Helper

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May 23, 2009, 12:42:21 PM5/23/09
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It is an ancient Atheno <ath...@imatheno.com>, and he posteth:

> On Sat, 23 May 2009 09:55:54 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote

Teehee. If it were, every psychiatric wing would be a church.

Atheno

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May 23, 2009, 12:49:42 PM5/23/09
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On Sat, 23 May 2009 11:42:21 -0500, Sanity's Little Helper wrote
(in article <1q5aodvo70ptp.6...@40tude.net>):

> It is an ancient Atheno <ath...@imatheno.com>, and he posteth:
>
>> On Sat, 23 May 2009 09:55:54 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
>> (in article
>> <516ab470-4054-4264...@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>):
>>
>>> Where two of more true Christians gather and share about Jesus, there
>>> is church.
>>
>> That is not true.
>
> Teehee. If it were, every psychiatric wing would be a church.

Yes it would.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 23, 2009, 12:52:55 PM5/23/09
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anon...@nowhere.you.know

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May 23, 2009, 2:05:25 PM5/23/09
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Is it your idea that like you, an atheist can be compelled like a
wheelbarrow to act not knowing they are not in control for lack of a
rearward view?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Fred Thomas

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May 23, 2009, 3:29:23 PM5/23/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/07d2ba495691c152?
>>>> Thats a very strange reality.
>>> Not for the discerning.

Your not discerning ...


... your ill.
>

News flash, god is not real, there is no salvation...
>

> http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven


>
>> ... the only darkness here is
>> your holding on to thousands years old myths and superstitions.
>
> You remind me of the man who, blind from birth, would deny the
> existence of light and darkness simply because he has never seen it.
> Just as this man's denial of light and darkness did not trouble the
> seeing, your denial of the truth does not trouble those of us who are
> discerning:
>

You remind me of a delusional drug user, with no sense of reality.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 23, 2009, 5:55:36 PM5/23/09
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/198c4b5601263540?

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What is the name of Jesus' church where Peter serves as its rock?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/42a30476ef3925ec?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Thommadura

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May 23, 2009, 6:09:19 PM5/23/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Amen.
>
> Love in the truth,


The truth remains that no supernatural god has been proven to exist.

Accept the truth

THe truth will set you free of religious nonsense!

ABCHUNG

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May 23, 2009, 6:12:59 PM5/23/09
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In article
<bf641cfc-1787-4ee6...@h11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:


> Truth is simple.

Truth is complex, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" is simple.

> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

> Bored-classified Heart Doctor
> and Author of "Be Angry"

MM

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May 23, 2009, 6:13:57 PM5/23/09
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On Sat, 23 May 2009 16:55:36 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in article
<bf641cfc-1787-4ee6...@h11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>):

> What is the name of Jesus' church where Peter serves as its rock?
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/42a30476ef3925ec?

Citing what you already wrote does not make it any more true except in your
own mind.

Posting a statement that the sky is green and then citing that post does not
make the sky green

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 23, 2009, 7:24:56 PM5/23/09
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Morton Mullens wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:

>
> > What is the name of Jesus' church where Peter serves as its rock?
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/42a30476ef3925ec?
>
> Citing what you already wrote does not make it any more true except in your
> own mind.

Did not write that the above given answer was true.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling

you to unwittingly reveal that the truth of the answer is self-
evident :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Morton, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What is the name of Jesus' church where Peter serves as its rock?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/42a30476ef3925ec?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Fred Thomas

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May 23, 2009, 8:25:22 PM5/23/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Truth is simple, your god is not real

ABCHUNG

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May 23, 2009, 8:28:24 PM5/23/09
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In article
<e6480fe8-de42-4fe9...@q16g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:


>
> Did not write that the above given answer was true.

Then "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"'s above answer must have been false,
after all!
>
> Many thanks
>
> May GOD soften your heart

May something harden "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"'s head.
>
> Amen.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/198c4b5601263540?

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the

Doc Smartass

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May 23, 2009, 9:26:11 PM5/23/09
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Atheno <ath...@imatheno.com> wrote in
news:0001HW.C63D7A13...@news.x-privat.org:

He needs to build his church on this rock:

http://www.rocksonfire.com/volcano%20eruption.jpg

I recommend wood as a medium.

--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939

Book reviews: http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/

Diploma Mill: a religious facility where minds are ground into powder.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 23, 2009, 11:39:41 PM5/23/09
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cbe899956cc87f5d?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><

Pastor Dave

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May 24, 2009, 7:29:32 AM5/24/09
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On Sat, 23 May 2009 10:47:17 -0500, Atheno <ath...@imatheno.com>
spake thusly:


>"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church,
>and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."
>
>Jesus may be with two or more people, but that is not a church which is
>BUILT.
>
>If you want to think differently, then go ahead but then it will not be as
>written in Matthew 16:18
>
>That is the simple truth.

So you think God built His church on a guy named Peter?

I guess the church ended when he died then.

--

Pastor Dave

"We have grasped the mystery of the atom and rejected
the Sermon on the Mount... The world has achieved
brilliance without conscience. Ours is a world of
nuclear giants and ethical infants."
- General Omar Bradley

Thommadura

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May 24, 2009, 8:20:15 AM5/24/09
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Pastor Dave wrote:
> On Sat, 23 May 2009 10:47:17 -0500, Atheno <ath...@imatheno.com>
> spake thusly:
>
>
>> "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church,
>> and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."
>>
>> Jesus may be with two or more people, but that is not a church which is
>> BUILT.
>>
>> If you want to think differently, then go ahead but then it will not be as
>> written in Matthew 16:18
>>
>> That is the simple truth.
>
> So you think God built His church on a guy named Peter?
>
> I guess the church ended when he died then.


Sounds good to me - why do you still believe then?

ThomM

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On May 24, 7:29 am, Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 May 2009 10:47:17 -0500, Atheno <ath...@imatheno.com>
> spake thusly:
>
> >"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church,
> >and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."
>
> >Jesus may be with two or more people, but that is not  a church which is
> >BUILT.  
>
> >If you want to think differently, then go ahead but then it will not be as
> >written in Matthew 16:18
>
> >That is the simple truth.
>
> So you think God built His church on a guy named Peter?
>
> I guess the church ended when he died then.


Of course NOT.

THere are no gods proven to exist.

All churches are HUMAN creations that have no provable connections to
a god

And that brings us to the falacy of "freedom of choice"

First - the religious version of that is not accurate.
Freedom of choice is not - do as I say - or I will punish you
completely and eternally - that is called coercion. When putting a gun
to someones head - and then giving them a choice - choose my way or I
will kill you - you are not actually given a choice.

Now - if there was true freedom of choice - then everything that
happened on earth would be obviously established as the choices of MAN
- and having nothing to do with gods, angels, devils, or any other
supernatural nonsense (Which would affect that "freedom")

That would mean that all religions are HUMAN CREATED - and have
nothing to do with a god - since a god giving freedom of choice could
not be involved to skew the result. (IE - the story of the christ MUST
be false - since it would be direct involvement of a god - as is the
story of Moses and the Israelites as well)

That also means that a god giving true freedom of choice - cannot work
"through" other humans - since that would limit their freedom of
choice - as well as that of others.

So - anyone who says that they KNOW anything about a god - is making a
HUMAN statement that has no basis in fact that they should know of.

Hence - religion is nonsense.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 24, 2009, 3:15:28 PM5/24/09
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Pastor Dave wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c32841d815371dbf?

>
> >"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church,
> >and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."
> >
> >Jesus may be with two or more people, but that is not a church which is
> >BUILT.
> >
> >If you want to think differently, then go ahead but then it will not be as
> >written in Matthew 16:18
> >
> >That is the simple truth.
>
> So you think God built His church on a guy named Peter?
>
> I guess the church ended when he died then.

The existence of Christian denominations dividing the body of Christ
is the result of the false teaching denoted by WWJD, which arises from
the lie that Peter walked on the water because he had become like
Jesus.

It is the fact that Peter walked on the water because he was mindful
of WDJW that can be used by Jesus' disciples to drive out the
abomination of WWJD thereby unifying the body of Christ across all the
Christian denominations:

http://WDJW.net

May GOD soften your heart, Dave, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What is the name of Jesus' church where Peter serves as its rock?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/42a30476ef3925ec?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

tr...@finder.com

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May 24, 2009, 4:34:54 PM5/24/09
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"The existence of Christian denominations dividing the body of Christ
is the result of the false teaching denoted by WWJD, which arises from
the lie that Peter walked on the water because he had become like
Jesus.

It is the fact that Peter walked on the water because he was mindful
of WDJW that can be used by Jesus' disciples to drive out the
abomination of WWJD thereby unifying the body of Christ across all the
Christian denominations:"

I'm greatly saddened by this level of confusion and distortion of
thought.

One can only ask as always why some are struck down and others not?
Such a promising young person struck down in the bloom of youth always
is reason for pause to consider this eternal question.

There but for the grace of God goes any of us.

May God bless and protect and heal.

Enkidu

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May 24, 2009, 5:03:17 PM5/24/09
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On Sun, 24 May 2009 20:34:54 +0000, truth wrote:

> I'm greatly saddened by this level of confusion and distortion of
> thought.

Indeed, most of us atheists feel this way whenever we think of reliegion.

--
Enkidu

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?"
-Epicurus

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 24, 2009, 5:25:24 PM5/24/09
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satan masquerading as truth via a sockpuppet despairingly posted:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a68ef84efef2c156?

>
> I'm greatly saddened by this level of confusion and distortion of
> thought.

The light of the truth, Who is Jesus, does cause you terrible pain and
is beyond your comprehension because you are part of the darkness that
is described in John 1:4-5.

"In HIM was life, and that life was the light of men. The light
shines
in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it." (John
1:4-5)

> One can only ask as always why some are struck down and others not?

Your condition happened when you unwisely chose to blaspheme against
the Holy Spirit.

> Such a promising young person struck down in the bloom of youth always
> is reason for pause to consider this eternal question.

You are ancient, a liar and murderer from the very beginning as the
source of all lies:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e17dea9c6a25e81c?

> There but for the grace of God goes any of us.

You are not here by the grace of GOD but are being used by Him to
teach His disciples.

> May God bless and protect and heal.

GOD is doing these things right now for this disciple who is mindful
of WDJW ...

http://WDJW.net

... especially as this disciple rebukes you during this GOD-given
opportunity as the LORD desires:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/31c3b88286afc5bd?

<><

"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen.

A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?

Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?

Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic at any time:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?

What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a
catastrophic Pan-Flu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

How to not be fearful:

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!

http://T3WiJ.com

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

http://WDJW.net

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?

Amen.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

http://JiL4ever.net

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Cardiologist

Thommadura

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May 24, 2009, 6:14:07 PM5/24/09
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tr...@finder.com wrote:
> "The existence of Christian denominations dividing the body of Christ
> is the result of the false teaching

Nonsense -=

THe belief in the christ is a human created belief - there are today
over 39,000 different ones.

Since humans are making up the story - they can say whatever they want.

THere is no way to determine that something is false about a fictional
character - since they do not actually exist anyway.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 24, 2009, 6:18:44 PM5/24/09
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Pastor Dave wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/a68ef84efef2c156?
>
> The existence of division is not from the WWJD movement.

Did not write that there were a WWJD movement.

The false teaching disguised as WWJD existed before the acronym as
satan's ancient lie that deceived Eve:

"... you will be like GOD ..." -- satan (Genesis 3:5)

This is the essence of WWJD (What would Jesus do?) where the lie that
"you will be like GOD" is believed.

This feeds the spirit of error which is self.

This fuels the spirit of division that when strengthened causes
division ! ! !

Only the truth, Who is Jesus, can remove satan's lies which causes our
hearts to be deceitful (Jeremiah 9:24).

Atheno

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May 24, 2009, 7:49:40 PM5/24/09
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On Sun, 24 May 2009 17:14:07 -0500, Thommadura wrote
(in article <4a19c6ed$0$22505$607e...@cv.net>):

> Since humans are making up the story - they can say whatever they want.

As does Chung and we do not take him seriously.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 24, 2009, 7:54:46 PM5/24/09
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c32841d815371dbf?

<><

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!

http://T3WiJ.com

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Cardiologist

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