Chump syndrome

Peter B

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>28. Why did Dr. Chung leave Ocala, Florida?
> >> >>-------------------------------------
> >> >>Dr. Chung's contract at the Central Florida Heart Center was
> >> >>terminated *for cause* after less than four months of
> >> >>employment.
> >> >>
> >> >>29. What does "for cause" mean?
> >> >
> >> > Source of question:
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/999756db0faad96c?
> >> >
> >> > "You lost your job because you talked yourself out of it." -- retired
> >> > physician, Dr. Hildner, who was replaced by Dr. Chung

Source of quote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/dda6f140e862c223?

Proof of Dr. Hildner's retired status:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?

> >> For just cause you were eliminated.
> >
> > If it were just cause, Dr. Hildner would not have written "you lost
> > your job because you talked yourself out of it."
>
> Wrong

It remains an experience shared by all that when there is just cause
for action that such just cause is invariably publicized from the
outset. For example, the unprovoked Iraqi invasion of Kuwait was
publicized from the outset as just cause for U.S. Operation Desert
Storm against Iraq:

http://www.free-essays.us/dbase/c6/dkt127.shtml

Truth is simple :-)

It remains wise to tell patients the truth instead of harming them
with lies:

Primum non nocere

faux-christian Peter B wrote::
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part in the past:
>
> > Actually, Dr. Hildner was replaced by me as he was retired back in 2001
> > after having to settle for several sizeable malpractice awards.
>
> Did Chung really lie?

No. It remains this physician's choice to continue to write truthfully
then and now.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?

faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MU wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> > MU wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
>>> >>> of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
>>> >>> by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating
>>> >>> 32 oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
>>> >>> else who have been doing the same.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
>>> >>> according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yes, the right amount control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much more
>>> >>> sophisticated and smarter:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
>>> >>
>>> >>"Yes, I would agree, and as I've posted in the past, I've discovered
>>> >>by experiment that with my typical kind of diet, 2lbs is about the
>>> >>threshold for me above which I gain weight and below which I lose it.
>>> >>
>>> >>I'm sure, however, that you can recall a number of doctors
>>> >>disagreeing with your diet on the grounds that a member of the public
>>> >>couldn't be trusted not to eat 2lbs of ice cream and think they were
>>> >>following your diet."
>>> >>
>>> >>See, there's proof. Just because you have you Ph.D. doesn't mean you
>>> >>can't succumb to the most ridiculous of arguments.
>>> >
>>> > Moreover, Bob Pastorio, who has argued the most against the
>>> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach, did not even have a Ph.D. unless one
>>> > in the culinary arts has been since posthumously conferred upon him.
>>>
>>> Howdy, Andrew, Pastorio's only degree was in the level of assclown he
>>> obtained.
>>>
>>> Full fledged imo i.e. FF.A.
>>>
>>> MU
>>
>> Meet Bob Pastorio's palindrome, Peter B.
>>
>> BP (Bob Pastorio) --> PB (Peter B.)
>>
>> A mirror image:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af1f2d9f004b20ed?
>>
>> Just as BP could not comprehend the fact that the ephah did not exist
>> at the time of Moses and the writing of Exodus for us to remove
>> the parentheses (for parenthetical) from around what is found at
>> Exodus 16:36 neither can PB.
>
>Don't know any BP and they aren't me.
>
>Here are the books in order that they were written.
>1: Genesis
>2: Exodus
>3: Leviticus
>4: Numbers
>5: Deuteronomy
>
>So if Deuteronomy was written later what difference would your statement
>make. NONE

It is because Deuteronomy was written after Exodus that the words
which the Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) has guided this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) to write has much weight :-)

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/49a31d5cd1d9c361?

>
>> 36 (An omer is one tenth of an ephah.)
>>
>> Source:
>>
>> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2016:36&version=NIV
>>
>> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit referring to
>> Exodus 16:36
>
> You just blasphemed The Holy Spirit.

Not for the discerning who realize from the above that indeed this
gentile Christian disciple really is in the Holy Spirit:

http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit

faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.
> >
>
> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as
> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
> persons each of you has in his tent.'"

Amen.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?

> Omer = 3.3 liters.

Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
of the Covenant has since been lost to us.

> Exodus 16:16 (English Standard Version)
>
> 16 This is what the LORD has commanded: 'Gather of it, each one of you, as
> much as he can eat. You shall each take an omer,[a] according to the number
> of the persons that each of you has in his tent.'"

Amen.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a48070f6b6239e0e?

> Footnotes:
> a. Exodus 16:16 An omer was about 2 quarts or 2 liters

The footnote is incorrect simply because it is written that manna is
ready-to-eat-food that has the consistency of "wafers made from
honey" (Exodus 16:31) which would be unlike either a grain or a fluid
so that it stands to reason that an omer of manna is not a volume unit
of manna but rather a weight unit of manna.

> Exodus 16:31 (New American Standard Bible)
>
> 31 The house of Israel named it manna, and it was like coriander seed,
> white, and its taste was like wafers with honey.
>
> There is the verse for you. Manna is the food. Omer is the weight.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f169b569b1a5b9fa?

Yes, an omer of manna is a weight measure of manna unlike either quart
or liter, which are volume measures.

Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
else who have been doing the same.

An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.

Holding to an omer of food per day is right amount control:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d740c3a4191d3e1b?

Yes, the right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Freckles wrote:
>
> >> Eat more whole grains for a better diet.
> >>
> >> http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/reap-the-benefits-of-whole-grains
> >
> > Eat the right amount (32 oz) per day for better health and wellbeing.
>
> That is a particularly ignorant/dumb statement.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/443f61cdd0473b11?

Not for the discerning who are familiar with Proverbs 25:16 which
teaches us that eating the right amount of food is more important for
health and wellbeing than what we are eating.

Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like
you, Peter B.:

2 Peter 2:22

Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:

http://WDJW.net/CV

Here is another's opinion about you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ad3ab8bf96435b6?

Bottom line concerning you, Peter:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/abf1b9d597143cff?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ of
Nazareth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/63d9553d4c7b8f7b?

Ken

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Aug 30, 2010, 11:48:56 AM8/30/10

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Peter B

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"Peter B" <.@.> wrote in message news:4c7b...@news.x-privat.org...
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Now this was a test, sorry people but I just had to do it.

I was wondering if I posted a blank Chump post if Chung was Narcissistic
enough to think it was about him and just answer by script. Sure enough, he
thought himself a Chump!

Poor Janet, she may be mindless enough to consider it calling him names, but
then she would be as guilty as he about considering him a Chump.

Test over.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 30, 2010, 1:19:21 PM8/30/10

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Peter B

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One wonders how many times he will answer to the name, Chump. ROTFL

Mick Jaggoff

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On Aug 30, 1:06 pm, "Peter B" <.@.> wrote:
> "Peter B" <.@.> wrote in messagenews:4c7b...@news.x-privat.org...

>
> Now this was a test, sorry people but I just had to do it.
>
> I was wondering if I posted a blank Chump post if Chung was Narcissistic
> enough to think it was about him and just answer by script. Sure enough, he
> thought himself a Chump!

Cute! Can you make him roll over, too?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 30, 2010, 2:45:53 PM8/30/10

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faux-christian Peter B suffering from Chump syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> > Jason wrote:
> >> Chris Malcolm wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I will use the time with the doctor to ask questions about my heart
> >> > > problems. It's my guess that my cardiologist has more important
> >> > > issues to deal with than what happens in newsgroups. I have noticed that very
> >> > > few doctors visit newsgroups. It would be great if thousands of doctors
> >> > > subscribed to various medical newsgroups.
> >> >
> >> > They used to in the early pre-AOL days. Then their patients got
> >> > newsgroup access and chased them off.
> >>
> >> I did not know that
> >
> > Lurkers don't really chase anyone away from Usenet participation.
> >
> > Instead, it is the bad behavior of the perishing like Peter B., Ken,
> > GSI et al that chases people away.
>
> I am in good health.

Folks in good health do not exhibit bad behavior (Chump syndrome).

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb7ef97ca46a1214?

Source of quote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/dda6f140e862c223?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?

http://www.free-essays.us/dbase/c6/dkt127.shtml

Truth is simple :-)

Primum non nocere

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?

>

>> 36 (An omer is one tenth of an ephah.)
>>
>> Source:
>>
>> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2016:36&version=NIV
>>
>> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit referring to
>> Exodus 16:36
>
> You just blasphemed The Holy Spirit.

Not for the discerning who realize from the above that indeed this
gentile Christian disciple really is in the Holy Spirit:

http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit

faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.
> >
>
> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as
> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
> persons each of you has in his tent.'"

Amen.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?

> Omer = 3.3 liters.

Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
of the Covenant has since been lost to us.

Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer

of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
else who have been doing the same.

An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.

Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d740c3a4191d3e1b?

Yes, the right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

faux-christian Peter B. wrote:

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/443f61cdd0473b11?

2 Peter 2:22

http://WDJW.net/CV

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ad3ab8bf96435b6?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/abf1b9d597143cff?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Peter B

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"Mick Jaggoff" <belly...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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ROTFL,

Looks like a lot of people can make him dance, even change the tune once in
a while,

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 30, 2010, 6:09:23 PM8/30/10

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faux-christian Peter B suffering from Chump syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Jason wrote:
> >> Chris Malcolm wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I will use the time with the doctor to ask questions about my heart
> >> > > problems. It's my guess that my cardiologist has more important
> >> > > issues to deal with than what happens in newsgroups. I have noticed that very
> >> > > few doctors visit newsgroups. It would be great if thousands of doctors
> >> > > subscribed to various medical newsgroups.
> >> >
> >> > They used to in the early pre-AOL days. Then their patients got
> >> > newsgroup access and chased them off.
> >>
> >> I did not know that
> >
> > Lurkers don't really chase anyone away from Usenet participation.
> >
> > Instead, it is the bad behavior of the perishing like Peter B., Ken,
> > GSI et al that chases people away.
>
> I am in good health.

Folks in good health do not exhibit bad behavior (Chump syndrome).

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/49995e9f071cd581?

Peter B

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote in message
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>
> Folks in good health do not exhibit bad behavior (Chump syndrome).
>

I hope you get well soon.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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faux-christian Peter B. suffering from Chump syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
> > What is described at Revelation 19:10 is how it would be wrong to fall
> > at the feet of an angel to worship an angel, instead of worshiping the
> > LORD Himself, Who is Jesus.
>
> Revelation 19:10 (English Standard Version)
> 10 Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, "You must
> not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to
> the testimony of Jesus. Worship God." For the testimony of Jesus is the
> spirit of prophecy.

Amen.

Yes, we "must not" fall down at the feet of an angel to worship an
angel instead of worshiping GOD Himself.

"My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
from Jesus

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d6054b28f5096166?

> > GOD has a mind (Father), a heart (Son), and a soul (Holy Spirit) with
> > the love of GOD residing in His heart, Who is our risen LORD Jesus
> > 'Christ' of Nazareth (Romans 8:39). It is the mind of GOD Who knows
> > (Matthew 24:36) the appointed time when His heart will return in the
> > flesh for His disciples to physically recognize (Luke 24:32) Him in
> > order to meet up with Him in the air at the appointed place (Luke
> > 17:37):
>
> Just doing a spot check here. Chung makes a statement and posts a reference
> to back up his theories.

Exegesis of Scripture is not theoretical.

> So I took the liberty of looking up the verses and
> pasting them in here. You see if it makes any sense to you, heathen or
> believer.

This should make sense to those who have been made discerning by the
Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) indwelling within them.

> Romans 8:39 (English Standard Version)
> 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to
> separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Amen.

Yes, the love of GOD resides in the Heart of GOD, Who is Christ Jesus
our LORD.

"My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
from Jesus

> Matthew 24:36 (English Standard Version)
>
> No One Knows That Day and Hour
> 36 "But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of
> heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

Amen.

Yes, only GOD the Father, Who is the Mind of GOD, knows "that day and
hour" when His Son, Who is the Heart of GOD will return for those of
us who are His disciples, either Jew or gentile:

http://JiL4ever.net

> Luke 24:32 (English Standard Version)
> 32 They said to each other, "Did not our hearts burn within us while he
> talked to us on the road, while he opened to us the Scriptures?"

Amen.

Yes, it is when our "hearts burn within us", which is our being
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry , that we physically recognize that
our risen LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is really walking and talking
with us though our eyes don't see Him and our ears don't hear him :-)

"My LORD and my GOD!" -- disciple Thomas (John 20:28) without rebuke
from Jesus

> Luke 17:37 (English Standard Version)
> 37 And they said to him, "Where, Lord?" He said to them, "Where the corpse
> is, there the vultures will gather."

Amen.

Yes, Jesus tells us exactly where we need to be to meet-up with Him
when we are taken by Him from this world :-)

> Jesus has already returned and showed his disciples who he is. Luke 24: 32

Incorrect. Followers Cleopas and Simon were kept from recognizing
Jesus (Luke 24:16).

Moreover, these followers were **not** disciples as evident by their
failure to recognize Jesus.

You, Peter B., do not have the counsel of the Holy Spirit.

This is because you have not been born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as evident
by your not being able to publicly (Philippians 2:10-11) say "Jesus is
LORD" (1 Corinthians 12:3) with your mouth (Romans 10:9).

faux-christian Peter B suffering from Chump syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Jason wrote:
> >> Chris Malcolm wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I will use the time with the doctor to ask questions about my heart
> >> > > problems. It's my guess that my cardiologist has more important
> >> > > issues to deal with than what happens in newsgroups. I have noticed that very
> >> > > few doctors visit newsgroups. It would be great if thousands of doctors
> >> > > subscribed to various medical newsgroups.
> >> >
> >> > They used to in the early pre-AOL days. Then their patients got
> >> > newsgroup access and chased them off.
> >>
> >> I did not know that
> >
> > Lurkers don't really chase anyone away from Usenet participation.
> >
> > Instead, it is the bad behavior of the perishing like Peter B., Ken,
> > GSI et al that chases people away.
>
> I am in good health.

Folks in good health do not exhibit bad behavior (Chump syndrome).

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/49995e9f071cd581?

Source of quote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/dda6f140e862c223?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?

http://www.free-essays.us/dbase/c6/dkt127.shtml

Truth is simple :-)

Primum non nocere

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/49a31d5cd1d9c361?

>
>> 36 (An omer is one tenth of an ephah.)
>>
>> Source:
>>
>> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2016:36&version=NIV
>>
>> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit referring to
>> Exodus 16:36
>
> You just blasphemed The Holy Spirit.

Not for the discerning who realize from the above that indeed this
gentile Christian disciple really is in the Holy Spirit:

http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit

faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.
> >
>
> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as
> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
> persons each of you has in his tent.'"

Amen.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?

> Omer = 3.3 liters.

Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
of the Covenant has since been lost to us.

> Exodus 16:16 (English Standard Version)

>
> 16 This is what the LORD has commanded: 'Gather of it, each one of you, as

> much as he can eat. You shall each take an omer,[a] according to the number
> of the persons that each of you has in his tent.'"

Amen.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a48070f6b6239e0e?

> Footnotes:
> a. Exodus 16:16 An omer was about 2 quarts or 2 liters

The footnote is incorrect simply because it is written that manna is
ready-to-eat-food that has the consistency of "wafers made from honey"
(Exodus 16:31) which would be unlike either a grain or a fluid so that
it stands to reason that an omer of manna is not a volume unit of
manna but rather a weight unit of manna.

> Exodus 16:31 (New American Standard Bible)
>
> 31 The house of Israel named it manna, and it was like coriander seed,
> white, and its taste was like wafers with honey.
>
> There is the verse for you. Manna is the food. Omer is the weight.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f169b569b1a5b9fa?

Yes, an omer of manna is a weight measure of manna unlike either quart
or liter, which are volume measures.

Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer

of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
else who have been doing the same.