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ren

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Mar 21, 2009, 8:36:42 AM3/21/09
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For those of you who think that this is a waste of time, you are
justified. But for me, it is an exercise.

I personally asked for a troll challenge after Talesin left.

Damaeus, SidneyEverGreenLambe, JonBarberaTomNewton, BBDDAllahAdam,
NatGreenMeds, and Merlin were all good challenges. Each are well
versed in psychological warfare, some hacking skills, and knew their
limitations well enough to survive for awhile. They are the best
trolls USENET has to offer.

Here is a list of my goals.

To Generate Interest
I engage in fighting with trolls so that readers may see how a
Wiccan like me deals with adversity. I did not fight flawlessly and
made mistakes. The first mistake was joking about going after the
troll's family. I shouldn't have joked about that. A terrorist without
limitations would go after someone's family. But I am in agreement
with Storm. We should deal with the person causing trouble directly.
But that person often does not care what you do to him or her.
Nevertheless, family members are innocent and should be left alone.
When fewer people post as a result of flame wars, it is time to stop
responding to trolls. That time is now. Damaeus is right about a few
things. I am running out of things to insult him on. I have pretty
much stated everything I want to state about his character flaws and
his faulty reasoning.

To Test Friendship
Everyone passes except Hy. Hy threatened me on more than one
occasion that she was ready to assist the trolls. She also threatened
Aine. Hy, if you are reading this, please do not engage in any curses
and do not lurk here or post here. You betray everyone. You back-stab
everyone. Noinden, Aine, the list goes on and on. You even betrayed
Talesin. In truth, I never trusted you or liked you the moment you
came here to alt.religion.wicca. I kept you, my enemy, close to me so
I could watch you. You know within your heart it is true. But I do not
wish you dead. I wish you to be healed. So stop cursing because the
forces that defend me and others get quite angry with you. Stop
messing with your life. You would be lucky to end up like BlackBane,
Sidney, or Damaeus -- just shells. They never curse me the way you do.
I'm asking you to just walk away forever so that you can be well and
happy. Once again, if you do not walk away from alt.religion.wicca and
never look back -- something bad will happen. I am warning you because
I do not want this to be on my conscience. I serve Baphomet! Get that
through your head.

To Test Witchcraft on Trolls
I'm trying out a lot of stuff that doesn't kill people, just
embarrasses them. My goal has never been to kill people. Only one guy
who posted my friend's number came close to death. Another guy ended
up in the loony bin. That is about it.

To Deal With Trolls Effectively
I have successfully terminated Merlin and NatGreenMed's accounts
because they threatened to come to Forks Washington and hurt my
friends and I. They were coaxed into making the threats but that is
not entrapment. They are naturally inclined to threaten.
BBDDAllahAdam made the mistake of posting offline with his USENET
nickname and I was able to trace him to his friends. I personally
asked one of his Wiccan lady friends to speak to him about the
trolling of our newsgroup and he stopped.
JonBarberaTomNewton got involved when I followed some of these
trolls to Kook forums. I didn't have to deal with him. Some hacks from
$cientology already identified him as an Internet troll and got his
information. I do not believe that I made any mistake in re-posting
his 411. Jon indicates that he didn't even know it was there. I re-
posted it so that he could have the 411 information removed. Even
though he is a troll.
Allan Adams is connected with Jon's Hate-Anonymous group (Which is
now venturing into hate all religions including Wicca and troll forums
blogs and newsgroups of religions.)and got involved here as well. I re-
posted his 411 to let him know he was in danger. Even though he is a
troll. Notice how BBDDAllahAdam borrowed from his nickname. Part of
the same white supremacist hacker group.
The Guy who stole Caliban's nickname was exposed and is gone.
The Guy who posted my friend's cell-phone number and asked people to
hurt her is still missing from the net. His friends won't say where.
Sidney Lambe shares the same fate as Raven BlackBane. Posting to
themselves mostly. Just a few regulars responding with short sentences
to keep them alive.

Which leaves Damaeus.
What should be done in fairness to him considering his mental illness?

Damaeus

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Mar 21, 2009, 9:17:56 AM3/21/09
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ren <ren...@hotmail.com> posted the following message
on Sat, 21 Mar 2009 05:36:42 -0700 (PDT):

> For those of you who think that this is a waste of time, you are
> justified. But for me, it is an exercise.
>
> I personally asked for a troll challenge after Talesin left.
>
> Damaeus, SidneyEverGreenLambe, JonBarberaTomNewton, BBDDAllahAdam,
> NatGreenMeds, and Merlin were all good challenges. Each are well
> versed in psychological warfare, some hacking skills,

I don't know anything about hacking. I do know a little about looking at
the headers to trace the route messages take through servers to get an
idea of where they might be coming from. But I don't know how to
circumvent computerized security. I do know how to protect my own
computer with firewalls, router, and network security.

> and knew their limitations well enough to survive for awhile.

What you perceive as my limitation is my skill at using just what is
necessary to maintain a conversational balance.

> They are the best trolls USENET has to offer.

Someone define a troll. Nobody has ever really said what a troll actually
is. They just point out a troll when they see one, a decision that is
based on opinion.

> Here is a list of my goals.
>
> To Generate Interest
> I engage in fighting with trolls so that readers may see how a
> Wiccan like me deals with adversity.

Showboating is what that's called. "Look at me knock the ball into the
goal!"

> I did not fight flawlessly and made mistakes. The first mistake was
> joking about going after the troll's family. I shouldn't have joked
> about that. A terrorist without limitations would go after someone's
> family. But I am in agreement with Storm. We should deal with the
> person causing trouble directly. But that person often does not care
> what you do to him or her. Nevertheless, family members are innocent
> and should be left alone.

I agree. Otherwise it would be like threatening to slap my mother until I
act as you demand.

> When fewer people post as a result of flame wars, it is time to stop
> responding to trolls. That time is now. Damaeus is right about a few
> things. I am running out of things to insult him on. I have pretty
> much stated everything I want to state about his character flaws and his
> faulty reasoning.

How do you judge character by a person's use of text? I think I've been
fairly cordial. I've made character assessments and posted them, often
with a roll of the eyes since I see the silliness of it, but after
accepting so many obviously incorrect evaluations of my own psychological
state, I amuse myself by posting a few of my own from time to time.

> To Test Friendship
> Everyone passes except Hy. Hy threatened me on more than one
> occasion that she was ready to assist the trolls. She also threatened
> Aine. Hy, if you are reading this, please do not engage in any curses
> and do not lurk here or post here.

She can't even lurk here? Who are you to have even the inclination to
order someone not to do something that you can't even have evidence of
having happened without going to her house and checking her newsreader to
see which messages are read and unread...and even that only proves the
read/unread state of the message. It doesn't prove that she actually read
the message--only that she toggled their state.

> You betray everyone. You back-stab everyone. Noinden, Aine, the list
> goes on and on. You even betrayed Talesin. In truth, I never trusted
> you or liked you the moment you came here to alt.religion.wicca. I kept
> you, my enemy, close to me so I could watch you.

Why are you telling us this?

> You know within your heart it is true. But I do not wish you dead. I
> wish you to be healed. So stop cursing because the forces that defend
> me and others get quite angry with you. Stop messing with your life.
> You would be lucky to end up like BlackBane, Sidney, or Damaeus -- just
> shells. They never curse me the way you do.

You think that we don't curse you simply because you think we're shells?

> I'm asking you to just walk away forever so that you can be well and
> happy. Once again, if you do not walk away from alt.religion.wicca and
> never look back -- something bad will happen. I am warning you because
> I do not want this to be on my conscience. I serve Baphomet! Get that
> through your head.

What do you serve him? Breakfast?

> To Test Witchcraft on Trolls
> I'm trying out a lot of stuff that doesn't kill people, just
> embarrasses them. My goal has never been to kill people. Only one guy
> who posted my friend's number came close to death. Another guy ended
> up in the loony bin. That is about it.

Well, if you have a way with words that has a bit of evil in it, and if
you're out spouting off at the mouth at people who are just starting on
their path of spiritual awakening, essentially it is you who are
responsible for putting them in the mental hospital. What you're doing by
cursing those you think are weak is known as psychic rape. You are a
spiritual rapist.

> Merlin and NatGreenMed's [fantasy snipped]
> BBDDAllahAdam [fantasy snipped]
> JonBarberaTomNewton [fantasy snipped]
> Allan Adams [fantasy snipped]
> The Guy who stole Caliban's nickname [fantasy snipped]
> The Guy who posted my friend's cell-phone number [fantasy snipped]
> Sidney Lambe [fantasy snipped]

Anything that has happened to all those people you say you had some
responsibility in "erasing them" from usenet (or curbing their posting
habits) has nothing at all to do with you. You simply take advantage of
the fact that people get bored with your games and move on to greener
pastures, leaving you to make up fantasies in your deranged mind as to the
reason for their disappearances. You are not dangerous. You're just
fantasy-prone. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but opening up about
it on the internet.... Well, it's fair game.

> Which leaves Damaeus.
> What should be done in fairness to him considering his mental illness?

Yes. Your fantasies about me are all pinned on my so-called "mental
illness". As if you must prove me mentally insane for your little plan to
work. It's the one term you've been waving over my head the whole time
you've been replying to my posts.

So get to it. Prove that I am mentally ill. List my symptoms, your
diagnosis and prognosis. I want your "professional" opinion.

Damaeus
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1
2
3
4 Wipe a booger on the floor.

Ren

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aine

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> > spiritual rapist.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I noticed that and the hypocrisy of supporting Hy.

Evergreen

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Mar 21, 2009, 3:20:17 PM3/21/09
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ren <ren...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> For those of you who think that this is a waste of time, you are
> justified. But for me, it is an exercise.
>
> I personally asked for a troll challenge after Talesin left.
>
> Damaeus, SidneyEverGreenLambe, JonBarberaTomNewton, BBDDAllahAdam,
> NatGreenMeds, and Merlin were all good challenges. Each are well
> versed in psychological warfare, some hacking skills, and knew their
> limitations well enough to survive for awhile. They are the best
> trolls USENET has to offer.

Ren calls anyone a "troll" who refuses to believe that he is a
spiritually evolved magickal adept whose every word is gospel
and golden and not to be questioned.

Unfortunately for him, no one who knows him trusts anything he
posts. He makes up reality to suit himself as he goes along,
expecting everyone to simply believe what he posts. For example,
he re-writes his own past whenever he feels like it. Check out
these supposedly auto-biographical articles of his and note the
differences in them:


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/1b67881c7715302c
<53423e91-6136-41e0...@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/609b26aa645f2065
<027a80e9-2a08-424c...@z27g2000prd.googlegroups.com>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/1e789b7d0754d099
<d1db7902-6d01-4ac4...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/e1cd2d7b9f06e4b9
<0ae33ea5-2c4f-4ea3...@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/569f68957308591f
<ed8819fa-67c3-4242...@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>

As for Ren's goals, I already know what they really are: To populate
this group with idiots who believe that he is a spiritually evolved
magickal adept when he's nothing but a cheap con artist who can
use google to find pages on what he thinks is magick because they
say they are.

The only thing of his that is smaller than his knowledge of magick
is his conscience.

Read more about this phoney here:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/2b550a31997edf62

He's just another loser who sees the Internet as a tool he can use
to create illusions with. A cheap con artist who doesn't have to
do anything but sit on his butt and run his mouth.

There is no 'witch war' here. He simply wants me and a few others to
go away, and I'm not going.

And because Ren is a fraud, he can't make me go away. He can post
excrement like the above from now until doomsday. I don't care.
Any loser can post anything on the usenet.

I'm here, Ren. Nothing you can do about it. Except kiss my rosy
cheeks. Again.

You are such a boring little bitch. And I am getting diaper rash
from your slobber.

[delete]

Sid

--
Wiccan Priest :-) and Apprentice Magician
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb

sarchasm

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Mar 21, 2009, 6:03:57 PM3/21/09
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"Evergreen" <sidne...@nospam.invalid> testified:

>
> Any loser can post anything on the usenet.
>
> I'm here,
>
> Sid
>

That's it, stand up and testify, sid! Now, who are you?

>
> A cheap con artist who doesn't have to
> do anything but sit on his butt and run his mouth.
>

What do you get out of doing that?

>
> And I am getting diaper rash
>

You should consider taking an occasional break from your navel-gazings to
change your diapers.


hy

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Mar 21, 2009, 6:25:56 PM3/21/09
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ren wrote:

> To Test Friendship
> Everyone passes except Hy. Hy threatened me on more than one
> occasion that she was ready to assist the trolls. She also threatened
> Aine. Hy, if you are reading this, please do not engage in any curses
> and do not lurk here or post here. You betray everyone. You back-stab
> everyone. Noinden, Aine, the list goes on and on. You even betrayed
> Talesin. In truth, I never trusted you or liked you the moment you
> came here to alt.religion.wicca. I kept you, my enemy, close to me so
> I could watch you. You know within your heart it is true. But I do not
> wish you dead. I wish you to be healed. So stop cursing because the
> forces that defend me and others get quite angry with you. Stop
> messing with your life. You would be lucky to end up like BlackBane,
> Sidney, or Damaeus -- just shells. They never curse me the way you do.
> I'm asking you to just walk away forever so that you can be well and
> happy. Once again, if you do not walk away from alt.religion.wicca and
> never look back -- something bad will happen. I am warning you because
> I do not want this to be on my conscience. I serve Baphomet! Get that
> through your head.

I am saying this half jokingly - I am telling you in advance because I
don't want you to cry on me or anything.

You are a dumbass.

You use faulty logic that makes no sense and you know it.

And you want others to fall for it... or not.

How are people supposed to believe you or believe anything else you say
when you use this sort of transparent faulty logic? Why use this logic
unless you don't want them to believe you or you just want to screw with
peoples minds.

Two examples of your faulty logic:
"Hy knew these guys before hand"
"Hy brought D and S to arw to protect and defend her"

You know neither of these stateements to be true.

So how am I supposed to believe you or the rest of what you say in the
same post, the same day or anything you say.

I am not sure what sort of wet dream you are living.

I do realize one thing though.. I am all good with you disliking me,
faulty logic or not.

sarchasm

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Mar 21, 2009, 6:57:59 PM3/21/09
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"Evergreen" <sidne...@nospam.invalid> tells us more about sid:

>
> no one who knows him trusts anything he posts.
>

Even without knowing "sid", any doubts are a result of what he posts. Why
do you feel that it matters whether "sid's" posts shouldn't be trusted?

> He makes up reality to suit himself as he goes along,
> expecting everyone to simply believe what he posts.
>

I see. And if beliefs are spells, what does that make "evergreen" *and*
"sid"?

> idiots who believe
>

Alright, why do you believe this?

> he's nothing
>

Not even a 'real' troll?

> phoney
>

Ah, anything else you'd like to add about "sid"?

> He's just another loser
>

What makes you believe that?

> He simply wants me
>

Why do you believe "sid" wants you, does he whisper to you inside of your
head?

> and I'm not going.
>

You want to keep hiding inside of "sid's" head?

> he can't make me go away.
>

No one can, if you don't want to leave - not even an exorcist. Will you be
possessing "sid" for long?

> from now until doomsday.
>

That might be unfortunate for "sid".

> I don't care.
>

Obviously not. What do your feelings of apathy accomplish for you?

> Nothing
>

Alright, what will you do instead?

> kiss my rosy cheeks. Again.
>

That's very flexible of you, yoga can be helpful if that is your desired
goal. For now, how would you characterize yourself as?

> a boring little bitch.
>
> Sid


Damaeus

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Mar 21, 2009, 7:17:23 PM3/21/09
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Reading from news:alt.religion.wicca,
"sarchasm" <sar....@yahoo.com> posted the following message
on Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:03:57 -0700:

> You should consider taking an occasional break from your navel-gazings to
> change your diapers.

I'd rather wear a diaper than have to post in this newsgroup another day.
I think people who wear diapers have more fun. I'm just not going to wear
one at my age.

Ren

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Mar 21, 2009, 9:12:36 PM3/21/09
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On Mar 22, 7:25 am, hy <hy_bis...@shutoutspamshaw.ca> wrote:

> Two examples of your faulty logic:
> "Hy knew these guys before hand"
> "Hy brought D and S to arw to protect and defend her"

Hy, I never said this. You did!

> You know neither of these stateements to be true.

I never made the statements, you did. Sar and Aine cast this spell to
force you to confess!

hy

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Mar 21, 2009, 9:17:24 PM3/21/09
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Well, I was in a really great mood when I wrote that message.

I am still in a good mood, but I have realized a few things since
writing that first message today.

I didn't feel a need to respond to your post earlier this week ren,
because I felt that either you were kidding and just being your usual
self, or you were serious and I struck a nerve and I felt that I could
give you some time to yourself. (Maybe you have stock in Biomed?)

But I realize that it doesn't really matter if you were kidding and
maybe you really were serious in how you feel/think about me and how you
write is what you really think. It was the logic part that didn't work
together for me, because if I know one part to not be true, then I
question the other part of your statements.

Hey, maybe both/all part(s) is/are true for you (I won't even go into
that part because I would question your sanity).

What I realize is that you have been telling me very strongly for about
a year now (as well as the group) that you can't stand me and think very
derogatory thoughts about me.

So I have given you time to simmer down, but I guess it comes down to
this: whether you are serious or not, it is foolish for me to have
anything to do with you, or to be loyal to you or care anything about you.

And if you feel the way you do, it was also cruel for me to not have
listened to you and taken your thoughts seriously. But then again, that
part is your own fault, for it is the way you groom your relationships.

So, goodbye to you.

hy

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Mar 21, 2009, 9:18:38 PM3/21/09
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Your an idiot and you are not funny.

zayton

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Mar 21, 2009, 9:19:15 PM3/21/09
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"hy" <hy_b...@shutoutspamshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:WPdxl.84869$aZ3....@newsfe01.iad...


> ren wrote:
>
>> To Test Friendship
>> Everyone passes except Hy. >

> I do realize one thing though.. I am all good with you disliking me,
> faulty logic or not.


<Grabs whip and chair, >

<<then has second thoughts
and heads to the lion's arena where it is safer>>


noinden

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Mar 21, 2009, 10:23:05 PM3/21/09
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Since when does by "get it"? Though ten this post is forced on both your
parts (just saying)

sarchasm

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Mar 21, 2009, 10:38:49 PM3/21/09
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I've stayed out of this aspect of your gaming and continue to, handing
claims of credit back to you.


aine

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Mar 21, 2009, 10:45:16 PM3/21/09
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> So, goodbye to you.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

How many times are you going to keep saying and doing this? This makes
what, 10..15 times now over the years?

The minute he says one nice thing about you you snap back like a
Duncan Yo-yo.

zayton

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"aine" <aine_n...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1717553b-1f4f-4d73...@y33g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

The minute he says one nice thing about you you snap back like a
Duncan Yo-yo.

*****

"There can be but one yo-yo andmay it be a Duncan!"

(Ouch! I had no idea it was THAT late)


Noinden

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Mar 23, 2009, 9:19:17 AM3/23/09
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Hmm the verbage looks somewhat familiar ;)

> > spiritual rapist.- Hide quoted text -

Ren

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Mar 23, 2009, 10:57:46 AM3/23/09
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On Mar 23, 10:19 pm, Noinden <noin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmm the verbage looks somewhat familiar ;)

Yes. Yes it does. ;)

Damaeus

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Noinden <noi...@gmail.com> posted the following message
on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:19:17 -0700 (PDT):

> Hmm the verbage looks somewhat familiar ;)

Familiar to what?

Damaeus

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ren <ren...@hotmail.com> posted the following message
on Sat, 21 Mar 2009 05:36:42 -0700 (PDT):

> The Witch Wars are Over )For Now( A Goal Summary

As per your announcement, huh? You really do have power issues.

zayton

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"aine" <aine_n...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1717553b-1f4f-4d73...@y33g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

The minute he says one nice thing about you you snap back like a
Duncan Yo-yo.

*****

"There can be but one yo-yo and may it be a Duncan!"

Noinden

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Mar 23, 2009, 11:40:35 AM3/23/09
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My what does that mean *bats big bunny eyes*

Bwhaa

Noinden

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Mar 23, 2009, 11:40:56 AM3/23/09
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On Mar 23, 10:13 am, Damaeus <no-m...@damaeus.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> Reading from news:alt.religion.wicca,
> Noinden <noin...@gmail.com> posted the following message

> on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:19:17 -0700 (PDT):
>
> > Hmm the verbage looks somewhat familiar ;)
>
> Familiar to what?
>
> Damaeus
Google on ARW will show you the light!

Damaeus

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Noinden <noi...@gmail.com> posted the following message
on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:40:56 -0700 (PDT):

Look, since I don't make it a habit of first assuming, then deciding that
one person is five posters playing, as one person called it, "Internet
Stratego", I just assume that each one of you is a different poster, and I
am only posting as what I'm posting as now.

It's as if someone thinks I write like someone else, and so I am that
someone else. Well, I'm not. I don't know who this other person is
you're thinking of, but I am not that person.

Noinden

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On Mar 23, 11:58 am, Damaeus <no-m...@damaeus.yahoo.invalid> wrote:

> Look, since I don't make it a habit of first assuming, then deciding that
> one person is five posters playing, as one person called it, "Internet
> Stratego", I just assume that each one of you is a different poster, and I
> am only posting as what I'm posting as now.
>
> It's as if someone thinks I write like someone else, and so I am that
> someone else. Well, I'm not. I don't know who this other person is
> you're thinking of, but I am not that person.

I will give you a clue bat.

The verbiage you used. I is something Hy herself has used verbatim!

It’s google logged.

Further look at the history of antagonism between Ren, Aine, Hy and
myself. At various times we have all been at war! Three of us grew up.
One of us is a back stabbing little Cannuck!

Ah-knee

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Mar 23, 2009, 2:55:36 PM3/23/09
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On Mar 23, 10:08 am, Noinden <noin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 23, 11:58 am, Damaeus <no-m...@damaeus.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Look, since I don't make it a habit of first assuming, then deciding that
> > one person is five posters playing, as one person called it, "Internet
> > Stratego", I just assume that each one of you is a different poster, and I
> > am only posting as what I'm posting as now.
>
> > It's as if someone thinks I write like someone else, and so I am that
> > someone else.  Well, I'm not.  I don't know who this other person is
> > you're thinking of, but I am not that person.
>
> I will give you a clue bat.
>
> The verbiage you used. I is something Hy herself has used verbatim!
>

Easy to mimic, if one was trying to sway it that way. I'm just
saying...not all is as seems here.

Ah-knee

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Sometimes the opposit of what is right in front of your nose.

Ah-knee

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Mar 23, 2009, 2:57:38 PM3/23/09
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On Mar 23, 9:58 am, Damaeus <no-m...@damaeus.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> Reading from news:alt.religion.wicca,
> Noinden <noin...@gmail.com> posted the following message
> on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:40:56 -0700 (PDT):
>
> > On Mar 23, 10:13+AKA-am, Damaeus <no-m...@damaeus.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> > > Reading from news:alt.religion.wicca,
> > > Noinden <noin...@gmail.com> posted the following message
> > > on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:19:17 -0700 (PDT):
>
> > > > Hmm the verbage looks somewhat familiar ;)
>
> > > Familiar to what?
>
> > > Damaeus
> > Google on ARW will show you the light!
>
> Look, since I don't make it a habit of first assuming, then deciding that
> one person is five posters playing, as one person called it, "Internet
> Stratego", I just assume that each one of you is a different poster, and I
> am only posting as what I'm posting as now.
>
> It's as if someone thinks I write like someone else, and so I am that
> someone else.  Well, I'm not.  I don't know who this other person is
> you're thinking of, but I am not that person.

Agreed, you are the other person.

Noinden

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Mar 23, 2009, 3:05:25 PM3/23/09
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Really? You mean arw is not open and honest?

Damaeus

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Mar 23, 2009, 1:19:57 PM3/23/09
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Reading from news:alt.religion.wicca,
Noinden <noi...@gmail.com> posted the following message
on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:08:48 -0700 (PDT):

> On Mar 23, 11:58 am, Damaeus <no-m...@damaeus.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Look, since I don't make it a habit of first assuming, then deciding that
> > one person is five posters playing, as one person called it, "Internet
> > Stratego", I just assume that each one of you is a different poster, and I
> > am only posting as what I'm posting as now.
> >
> > It's as if someone thinks I write like someone else, and so I am that
> > someone else. Well, I'm not. I don't know who this other person is
> > you're thinking of, but I am not that person.
>
> I will give you a clue bat.
>
> The verbiage you used. I is something Hy herself has used verbatim!

Are you talking about my intentionally huffy comment about being a
spiritual rapist? The one I posted in an attempt to irritate Ren? Notice
he only quoted that and didn't add anything to it.

I'm just high, not Hy.

> It’s google logged.
>
> Further look at the history of antagonism between Ren, Aine, Hy and
> myself. At various times we have all been at war! Three of us grew up.
> One of us is a back stabbing little Cannuck!

Okay. I don't really get it. I'm just saying I'm just posting with one
identity to quell any assumptions that I'm ... square dancing with myself,
or whatever you'd call that.

Damaeus

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Reading from news:alt.religion.wicca,
Ah-knee <mlad...@yahoo.com> posted the following message
on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:57:38 -0700 (PDT):

> On Mar 23, 9:58 am, Damaeus <no-m...@damaeus.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> Reading from news:alt.religion.wicca,
>

> > It's as if someone thinks I write like someone else, and so I am that
> > someone else.  Well, I'm not.  I don't know who this other person is
> > you're thinking of, but I am not that person.
>
> Agreed, you are the other person.

I am not. I don't care if you agree.

Ah-knee

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On Mar 23, 12:31 pm, Damaeus <no-m...@damaeus.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> Reading from news:alt.religion.wicca,
> Ah-knee <mladya...@yahoo.com> posted the following message

> on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:57:38 -0700 (PDT):
>
> > On Mar 23, 9:58+AKA-am, Damaeus <no-m...@damaeus.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> > Reading from news:alt.religion.wicca,
>
> > > It's as if someone thinks I write like someone else, and so I am that
> > > someone else. +AKA-Well, I'm not. +AKA-I don't know who this other person is

Ah-knee

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On Mar 23, 12:31 pm, Damaeus <no-m...@damaeus.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> Reading from news:alt.religion.wicca,
> Ah-knee <mladya...@yahoo.com> posted the following message

> on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:57:38 -0700 (PDT):
>
> > On Mar 23, 9:58+AKA-am, Damaeus <no-m...@damaeus.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> > Reading from news:alt.religion.wicca,
>
> > > It's as if someone thinks I write like someone else, and so I am that
> > > someone else. +AKA-Well, I'm not. +AKA-I don't know who this other person is

> > > you're thinking of, but I am not that person.
>
> > Agreed, you are the other person.
>
> I am not.  I don't care if you agree.

You said you were not that person so I agreed you were the other
person, which is to say you are someone other then "that" person..so
you say..so..

Damaeus

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Reading from news:alt.religion.wicca,
Ah-knee <mlad...@yahoo.com> posted the following message
on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:20:22 -0700 (PDT):

> You said you were not that person so I agreed you were the other
> person, which is to say you are someone other then "that" person..so
> you say..so..

I am only one person. I only post as one person.

Ren

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Mar 23, 2009, 8:16:24 PM3/23/09
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It must be that Hy has Damaeus under her spell.

He is being manipulated by the unseen hand of darkness.

He is made to froth at the mouth like a pack animal.

Back and forth -- jerking his head about -- confused.

Damaeus

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Reading from news:alt.religion.wicca,
Ren <ren...@hotmail.com> posted the following message
on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:16:24 -0700 (PDT):

Got any video clips of this to prove it?

Hope

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Mar 23, 2009, 10:26:19 PM3/23/09
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Not so done with this as you thought, then?

sarchasm

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Mar 23, 2009, 10:28:58 PM3/23/09
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When too much is made, there can sometimes be uneaten leftovers.


Damaeus

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Mar 23, 2009, 11:21:16 PM3/23/09
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Reading from news:alt.religion.wicca,
Hope <hollera...@gmail.com> posted the following message
on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:26:19 -0700 (PDT):

Ren claims victory when everything has worked out to his satisfaction on
usenet. Of course, the claims he made above are patently false. Nobody
skilled in critical thinking would believe such a statement without proof,
which he does not have.

Noinden

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Mar 24, 2009, 9:12:51 AM3/24/09
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He never is ;)

Ren

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Mar 24, 2009, 11:50:29 AM3/24/09
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On Mar 24, 11:26 am, Hope <holleratwal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not so done with this as you thought, then?

Yet, I am not responding directly to either of them.

Hope

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Mar 24, 2009, 12:06:46 PM3/24/09
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Yes, being talked *about* is much different than being talked *to*.
Well, at least it is when the people you are talking about can't read
what you say just as well as anyone else.

You are still giving attention and energy to them, no?

Evergreen

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Mar 24, 2009, 4:25:30 PM3/24/09
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Ren <ren...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 24, 11:26=A0am, Hope <holleratwal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Not so done with this as you thought, then?
>
> Yet, I am not responding directly to either of them.

I don't care whether you respond to me or not. Nothing you post
can be trusted. You have no honor, no conscience. You don't care
whether what you post is truthful or accurate.

Here, you are rightfully castigated by one of your very, very
few loyal supporters, for telling outright lies:

<WPdxl.84869$aZ3....@newsfe01.iad>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/942f1f68481ff8d2

<Mo0tl.61618$aZ3....@newsfe01.iad>
Hy: "You know that I am loyal to ren."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/6fd4e5bec6838761

I could post scores of examples of you posting things that you
know are untrue.

You couldn't make me go away with the useless theatrical woo-woo that
you think is 'magick', and you couldn't make me go away with the most
vicious trolling I have ever encountered, and now you think that by
refusing to reply directly to me you are going to make me go away?

You are so stupid that I am amazed that you can use a computer.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/2b550a31997edf62

When are you going to finally reveal which of these supposed
autobiographies of yours, if any, is the real one?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/1b67881c7715302c
<53423e91-6136-41e0...@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/609b26aa645f2065
<027a80e9-2a08-424c...@z27g2000prd.googlegroups.com>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/1e789b7d0754d099
<d1db7902-6d01-4ac4...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/e1cd2d7b9f06e4b9
<0ae33ea5-2c4f-4ea3...@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/569f68957308591f
<ed8819fa-67c3-4242...@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>

Sid

--
Wiccan Priest :-) and Apprentice Magician
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb

Hope

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On Mar 24, 3:25 pm, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> > Yet, I am not responding directly to either of them.
>
> I don't care whether you respond to me or not.

He was talking about Hy and Damaeus. Which one of those are you
claiming to be?

Besides, it's painfully obvious that whether or not Ren interacts with
you is at the very top of the list of things you care about.
Unrequited love's a bitch, ain't it??

Joseph Littleshoes

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*Chuckle* maybe 'under the bed' is not what Sidney is remote viewing:)
--
JL

Damaeus

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Mar 24, 2009, 6:40:47 PM3/24/09
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Reading from news:alt.religion.wicca,
Ren <ren...@hotmail.com> posted the following message
on Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:50:29 -0700 (PDT):

> On Mar 24, 11:26 am, Hope <holleratwal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Not so done with this as you thought, then?
>
> Yet, I am not responding directly to either of them.

That's probably best.

Damaeus

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Reading from news:alt.religion.wicca,
Hope <hollera...@gmail.com> posted the following message
on Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:54:22 -0700 (PDT):

> He was talking about Hy and Damaeus. Which one of those are you
> claiming to be?

Ren certainly isn't me. I understand him, but he doesn't think I do.
We're actually a lot alike, so bored with this mundane and pathetic world
that we must entertain ourselves on usenet.

Ren

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On Mar 25, 1:06 am, Hope <holleratwal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You are still giving attention and energy to them, no?

No, I'm only giving energy to you at the moment. ;)

Ren

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On Mar 25, 7:17 am, Joseph Littleshoes <jpsti...@isp.com> wrote:

> *Chuckle* maybe 'under the bed' is not what Sidney is remote viewing:)

I shudder at the thought..

sarchasm

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"Hope" <hollera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Evertroll" <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> trolled seveal disinterested NGs:

>
> > Yet, I am not responding directly to either of them.
>
> I don't care whether you respond to me or not.
>
>He was talking about Hy and Damaeus. Which one of those are you
>claiming to be?

>Besides, it's painfully obvious that whether or not Ren interacts with
>you is at the very top of the list of things you care about.
>Unrequited love's a bitch, ain't it??
>

That most likely accounts for all the "woo-woo"; he's wooing ren.


Noinden

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