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Read the single dumbest statement EVER by a CT.....Chico Jesus of course!!!!

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YoHarvey

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Jan 5, 2008, 8:11:46 PM1/5/08
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Guys, what's interesting to me is that the photo from the right side
shows Connally's jump seat DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF KENNEDY'S SEAT,
exactly where Cters have been saying it was for the last 44 years.
Unless Connally was sitting off of the jump seat (unlikely), there is
NO WAY he could have been seated inboard of President Kennedy as the
LNers have imagined.

bigdog

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Jan 6, 2008, 12:02:29 AM1/6/08
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Maybe not THE dumbest, but certainly one of them.

Gil Jesus

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Jan 6, 2008, 7:13:00 AM1/6/08
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YoHarvey forgot to post the link that proves what I'm saying
again....is it any surprise ?

here it is for the dumbest dog out there:

http://pictures.aol.com/galleries/gjjmail/41602cXrkH0*ic1Lb0imwIK1L7AF9CeHz6dpv4xQp5Fd3Ig=/large/

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Gil Jesus

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Jan 6, 2008, 8:23:57 AM1/6/08
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I'll stand by the photo in MY link that was taken close up AND on the
correct side of the limo that shows the jump seat in FRONT of JFK
before I stand by a photo from the OPPOSITE side of the car and at a
distance.

Only a LN "nut" would try to pass of a photo such as yours as PROOF,
taken from the wrong side of the car AND at a distance, once again you
stoop to deception to support a lie.

http://pictures.aol.com/galleries/gjjmail/41602cXrkH0*ic1Lb0imwIK1L7AF9CeHz6=
dpv4xQp5Fd3Ig=3D/large/

justm...@gmail.com

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Jan 6, 2008, 8:24:53 AM1/6/08
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On Jan 6, 8:04 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> Gil is wrong (as per usual). The jump seats of SS-100-X were a few
> inches inboard of the back seats. Dale Myers' obtained the original
> body draft from Hess & Eisenhardt prior to Dale's exacting computer
> reconstruction of the shooting, and a photo of the limo (based on the
> body draft) can be found on the webpage below (showing the "inboard"
> nature of the 2 jump seats):
>
> http://jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/models.htm
>
> And this rare motorcade photo definitely hows Connally seated
> "inboard" of JFK's position:
>
> http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/David_Von_Pein/JFK%20Assassi...
>
> Plus -- Gil-Kook's silly theory about a "bullet hole in rear seat" of
> the limo is pure bullshit too.....
>
> ROBERT A. FRAZIER (FBI) -- "We examined the {limo's} rugs carefully
> for holes, for bullet furroughs, for fragments. We examined the nap of
> the rug, in the actual nap of the rug, for fragments and bullet holes.
> We pulled the rug back as far as we could turn it back and even tore
> the glue or adhesive material loose around the cracks at the edges of
> the rug so we could observe the cracks to see whether they had been
> enlarged, and we examined all of the upholstery covering, on the back
> of the front seat, on the doors, and in the rear seat compartment, the
> jump seats, the actual rear seat, the back of the rear seat, and we
> examined the front seat in a similar manner, and we found no bullet
> holes or other bullet impact areas, other than the one on the inside
> of the windshield and the dent inside the windshield chrome."
>
> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/frazr2.htm
>
> ============================
>
> What's next from the "Anybody But Oz" crowd? I can't wait. My daily
> laugh is overdue.

This is just another one of Jesus' misleading photos or videos.
Without any proof he has taken it upon himself to post pictures of a
tear or bump in the leather of the back seat of the limo and claim it
was made from a bullet. Jesus is in dire need of being noticed and
accepted. He will post or say anything his deranged mind can muster up
to accomplish this. It doesn't matter if its true or fiction. No one
can be this incredibly stupid to think he won't be proven wrong. I
seriously think Gil Jesus has some substantial mental problems.
Wanting to be a "well known kook" in the CT world has devoured what
little life he had left.
Jesus needs to see a shrink, either that or go back to his junk car
parts in his yard trying to sell them on the internet. As a JFK
researcher his is nothing but a liar and a failure.

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Gil Jesus

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Jan 6, 2008, 8:33:00 AM1/6/08
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I'm glad you brought up the issue of mental illness. Since you cannot
cite any proof of mine, let me cite proof of YOURS :

yoharvey/justme1952 accused an "imposter" of posting a post of hers to
other newsgroups, when in fact HE/SHE was the one who cross-posted
it:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/a1714b6d2ffd26fd

then when she found out that his/her post was on other newsgroups, he/
she flipped out, blaming the "imposter" for creating "bogus"
newsgroups :

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/55eea239ebd9c15d

These unbelievable posts from a self described "Information
Technology" EXPERT with over 12 years experience.

Since, then, he/she's seen Gil Jesuses everywhere. Every new poster
using AOL has been accused of being me. And yet this mental midget has
NO EXPLANATION for WHY I would use multiple screennames for the same
purpose --- to argue in FAVOR of a Conspiracy in the murder of JFK.

She was so convinced that I was the imposter, she complained to AIOE,
the news server that I was using at the time, then announced that she
had received an e-mail from them advising that I had been banned from
the newsserver.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/b6ffb12116db4645

When she announced I had been banned, I went to my newsreader to
connect to AIOE and it asked me for a screenname and password, so
naturally, I thought they had changed to a pay server. During that
general timeframe, I must have used another server in search of other
newsgroups (not all servers carry ALL newsgroups) because I found out
months later that my newsreader was configured for a screenname and
password.

Once she announced that the server was still free, I went to my
newsreader and found the glitch. Then I posted from the server to
prove that her claim that I was banned wasn't true, she flipped out
and sent another letter of complaint to the newsserver. Once again she
announced that I had been re-banned.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/ba22348fc749b3a9

I once again posted from the newsserver 5 hours after her announcement
in order to prove that I had, in fact, NOT been re-banned.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/b6ffb12116db4645

Simply ridiculous. Every time he/she posts. he/she displays the depth
of his/her mental illness.

It really IS sad.


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justm...@gmail.com

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Jan 6, 2008, 8:43:33 AM1/6/08
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Save your bullshit Jesus, you can whine and post any links you want
too...it all came down when it happened and all anyone has to do is go
back and find the posts. I have proven you are a lying scum. I am not
wasting my time "again" going back and posting links. I have the
emails from AIOE as further proof.
You deceived AIOE just as you did this newsgroup by using a new email
to post on their server again. Your stupidity at trying to do test
posts on this newsgroup using the faked email address were proof of
that. You were once again banned when I sent the posts to AIOE. Being
a free news server they obviously don't try very hard at finding the
scum that uses their service, not unless their notified. Is it a
coincidence you haven't used AIOE again since the second time I turned
you in? Search the internet Chico, there are 1000's of ways to mask
your ip address or make free email accounts so you can use their
server again. Nothing you say is going to convince anyone that Justin
and the things you did aren't true. Each and EVERY time I see you use
AIOE I will turn you in. I told you eventually they will report you to
AOL. You've been given the rope, now we'll just sit back and watch you
hang yourself. Lying bigot.

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David Von Pein

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Jan 6, 2008, 8:49:15 AM1/6/08
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>>> "{A} photo {of the limo} shows Connally's jump seat DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF KENNEDY'S SEAT, exactly where CTers have been saying it was for the last 44 years. Unless Connally was sitting off of the jump seat (unlikely), there is NO WAY he could have been seated inboard of President Kennedy as the LNers have imagined." <<<


Gil is wrong (as per usual). The jump seats of SS-100-X were a few
inches inboard of the back seats. Dale Myers obtained the original
body draft from Hess & Eisenhardt prior to Dale's exacting computer

reconstruction of the shooting, and an animated picture of the limo


(based on the body draft) can be found on the webpage below (showing
the "inboard" nature of the 2 jump seats):

http://jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/models.htm

And this rare motorcade photo definitely shows Connally seated


"inboard" of JFK's position:

http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/David_Von_Pein/JFK%20Assassination%20--%20Volume%201/?action=view&current=Rare_View_Of_The_Dallas_Motorcade_2.jpg


Plus -- There's the Warren Commission testimony of Thomas J. Kelley of
the Secret Service regarding the limousine's seating arrangement (WC
Volume 5; Page 132):


ARLEN SPECTER -- "On the President's car itself, what is the distance
on the right edge of the right jump seat, that is to say from the
right edge of the right jump seat to the door on the right side?"

THOMAS J. KELLEY -- "There is 6 inches of clearance between the jump
seat and the door."

SPECTER -- "And what is the relative position of the jump seat to the
rear seat on the Presidential automobile?"

KELLEY -- "There is 8-and-a-half inches between the back of the jump
seat and the front of the back seat of the President's car, the rear
seat."

SPECTER -- "And what is the relative height of the jump seat and the
rear seat?"

KELLEY -- "The jump seat is 3 inches lower than the back seat in its
bottom position. That is, the back seat of the President's car had a
mechanism which would raise it 10-and-a-half inches. But at the time
of the assassination, the seat was in its lowest position."

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh5/html/WC_Vol5_0071b.htm

============================


I guess Gil wants to believe that Thomas Kelley of the USSS was a
rotten liar too, just like the hundreds of other people who got
together to tell one dirty lie after another in wake of the
President's murder.

Gil, folks, is a kook.


http://shutter10.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/16/005/6F/BF/A0/74/Hi8DNtUHDDOmh+QGEWkw30eE4a352B+-0300.jpg

Plus -- Gilbert's silly theory about a "bullet hole in rear seat" of
the limo is pure bullshit too:


ROBERT A. FRAZIER (FBI) -- "We examined the {limo's} rugs carefully
for holes, for bullet furroughs, for fragments. We examined the nap of
the rug, in the actual nap of the rug, for fragments and bullet holes.
We pulled the rug back as far as we could turn it back and even tore
the glue or adhesive material loose around the cracks at the edges of
the rug so we could observe the cracks to see whether they had been
enlarged, and we examined all of the upholstery covering, on the back
of the front seat, on the doors, and in the rear seat compartment, the
jump seats, the actual rear seat, the back of the rear seat, and we
examined the front seat in a similar manner, and we found no bullet
holes or other bullet impact areas, other than the one on the inside
of the windshield and the dent inside the windshield chrome."


http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/frazr2.htm

============================


What's next from the "Anybody But Oswald" crowd? I can't wait. My
daily laugh is overdue.

YoHarvey

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Jan 6, 2008, 9:25:34 AM1/6/08
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On Jan 6, 8:49 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>> "{A} photo {of the limo} shows Connally's jump seat DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF KENNEDY'S SEAT, exactly where CTers have been saying it was for the last 44 years. Unless Connally was sitting off of the jump seat (unlikely), there is NO WAY he could have been seated inboard of President Kennedy as the LNers have imagined." <<<
>
> Gil is wrong (as per usual). The jump seats of SS-100-X were a few
> inches inboard of the back seats. Dale Myers obtained the original
> body draft from Hess & Eisenhardt prior to Dale's exacting computer
> reconstruction of the shooting, and an animated picture of the limo
> (based on the body draft) can be found on the webpage below (showing
> the "inboard" nature of the 2 jump seats):
>
> http://jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/models.htm
>
> And this rare motorcade photo definitely shows Connally seated
> "inboard" of JFK's position:
>
> http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/David_Von_Pein/JFK%20Assassi...

>
> Plus -- There's the Warren Commission testimony of Thomas J. Kelley of
> the Secret Service regarding the limousine's seating arrangement (WC
> Volume 5; Page 132):
>
> ARLEN SPECTER -- "On the President's car itself, what is the distance
> on the right edge of the right jump seat, that is to say from the
> right edge of the right jump seat to the door on the right side?"
>
> THOMAS J. KELLEY -- "There is 6 inches of clearance between the jump
> seat and the door."
>
> SPECTER -- "And what is the relative position of the jump seat to the
> rear seat on the Presidential automobile?"
>
> KELLEY -- "There is 8-and-a-half inches between the back of the jump
> seat and the front of the back seat of the President's car, the rear
> seat."
>
> SPECTER -- "And what is the relative height of the jump seat and the
> rear seat?"
>
> KELLEY -- "The jump seat is 3 inches lower than the back seat in its
> bottom position. That is, the back seat of the President's car had a
> mechanism which would raise it 10-and-a-half inches. But at the time
> of the assassination, the seat was in its lowest position."
>
> http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh5/html/WC_Vol5_007...

>
> ============================
>
> I guess Gil wants to believe that Thomas Kelley of the USSS was a
> rotten liar too, just like the hundreds of other people who got
> together to tell one dirty lie after another in wake of the
> President's murder.
>
> Gil, folks, is a kook.
>
> http://shutter10.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/16/005/6F/BF/A0/74/Hi...

>
> Plus -- Gilbert's silly theory about a "bullet hole in rear seat" of
> the limo is pure bullshit too:
>
> ROBERT A. FRAZIER (FBI) -- "We examined the {limo's} rugs carefully
> for holes, for bullet furroughs, for fragments. We examined the nap of
> the rug, in the actual nap of the rug, for fragments and bullet holes.
> We pulled the rug back as far as we could turn it back and even tore
> the glue or adhesive material loose around the cracks at the edges of
> the rug so we could observe the cracks to see whether they had been
> enlarged, and we examined all of the upholstery covering, on the back
> of the front seat, on the doors, and in the rear seat compartment, the
> jump seats, the actual rear seat, the back of the rear seat, and we
> examined the front seat in a similar manner, and we found no bullet
> holes or other bullet impact areas, other than the one on the inside
> of the windshield and the dent inside the windshield chrome."
>
> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/frazr2.htm
>
> ============================
>
> What's next from the "Anybody But Oswald" crowd? I can't wait. My
> daily laugh is overdue.

YoHarvey forgot to post the link that proves what I'm saying


again....is it any surprise ?


Our resident pathological lying misfit POSTS his OWN picture and wants
us to buy into it roflmao, roflmao, roflmao. People, people? This
moron has claimed he has "studied" this assassination for 30 + years.
Absolutely frightening. A vegetable! An absolute, total
vegetable. To get you to believe ins HIS conspiracy, he'd sell his
mother on the streets. Chico Jesus is certifiably NUTS!!!

rwalker

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Jan 6, 2008, 3:27:32 PM1/6/08
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"bigdog" <jecorb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:45b54e3a-1dfa-4663...@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

-----------------

As the saying goes, Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. It's amazing what
some of these people will say to support an unsupportable position.


aeffects

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Jan 6, 2008, 3:36:31 PM1/6/08
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appears this one post deserves a thread all by its lonesome, eh Gil?

bigdog

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Jan 6, 2008, 4:11:46 PM1/6/08
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Chico, look up the word perspective in the dictionary. You should have
no trouble finding it. It's near the word pervert which has your
picture next to it.

YoHarvey

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Jan 6, 2008, 5:18:57 PM1/6/08
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> picture next to it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Jesus/Robcap? Your faults as a son.....are your parents
failures......as parents.

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