Blue Moon

[David Dalton]

"Blue moon you saw me standing alone
Without a dream in my heart
Without a love of my own
Blue moon you knew just what I was there for
You heard me saying a prayer for
Someone I really could care for”
(Rodgers and Hart)

Though I had remembered it as
“Blue moon you left me standing alone there”

Anyway, tonight’s full moon is a blue moon (second full moon
in a calendar month) and supermoon (it is closer to the
Earth and appears larger than usual).

I wish good romance to any readers involved in a relationship.

Then there is the Cowboy Junkies Blue Moon Revisited (Song For Elvis)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lRDT-TyPPo

--
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)

[NancyGene]

David Dalton, why in the world would you think your post was so significant (and universal) as to cross post it to:
alt.religion.druid, alt.music.s-mclachlan, alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.atheism, alt.philosophy.taoism, and alt.buddha.short.fat.guy? You are a spammer.

[David Dalton]

On Aug 30, 2023, NancyGene wrote
(in article<02e5815e-467a-4eb5...@googlegroups.com>):

Crossposting is better than multiposting, and those following up
on me on alt.atheism, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,
and this group generally restrict their followups to one group,
as you have, and I rarely get followups on alt.religion.druid
and alt.music.s-mclachlan . But yet, I am a bit of a spammer.
Does anyone else reading like my post?

[David Dalton]

On Aug 30, 2023, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.2A9FB9F600...@news.eternal-september.org>):

> On Aug 30, 2023, NancyGene wrote
> (in article<02e5815e-467a-4eb5...@googlegroups.com>):
>
> > On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 5:06:53 PM UTC, David Dalton wrote:
> > > "Blue moon you saw me standing alone
> > > Without a dream in my heart
> > > Without a love of my own
> > > Blue moon you knew just what I was there for
> > > You heard me saying a prayer for
> > > Someone I really could care for”
> > > (Rodgers and Hart)
> > >
> > > Though I had remembered it as
> > > “Blue moon you left me standing alone there”
> > >
> > > Anyway, tonight’s full moon is a blue moon (second full moon
> > > in a calendar month) and supermoon (it is closer to the
> > > Earth and appears larger than usual).
> > >
> > > I wish good romance to any readers involved in a relationship.
> > >
> > > Then there is the Cowboy Junkies Blue Moon Revisited (Song For Elvis)
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lRDT-TyPPo
> >

> > David Dalton, why in the world would you think your post was so significant
> > (and universal) as to cross post it to:
> > alt.religion.druid, alt.music.s-mclachlan, alt.arts.poetry.comments,
> > alt.atheism, alt.philosophy.taoism, and alt.buddha.short.fat.guy? You are a
> > spammer.
>
> Crossposting is better than multiposting, and those following up
> on me on alt.atheism, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,
> and this group generally restrict their followups to one group,
> as you have, and I rarely get followups on alt.religion.druid
> and alt.music.s-mclachlan . But yet, I am a bit of a spammer.
> Does anyone else reading like my post?

Also I don’t expect many followups.

[General-Zod]

David Dalton wrote:
>
> "Blue moon you saw me standing alone
> Without a dream in my heart
> Without a love of my own
> Blue moon you knew just what I was there for
> You heard me saying a prayer for
> Someone I really could care for”
> (Rodgers and Hart)

> Though I had remembered it as
> “Blue moon you left me standing alone there”

> Anyway, tonight’s full moon is a blue moon (second full moon
> in a calendar month) and supermoon (it is closer to the
> Earth and appears larger than usual).

> I wish good romance to any readers involved in a relationship.

> Then there is the Cowboy Junkies Blue Moon Revisited (Song For Elvis)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lRDT-TyPPo

Hello David, interesting read...

[Michael Pendragon]

I would like your post if I were a member of alt.religion.druid, or perhaps, and astronomy group. It's not the sort of post I come to a poetry group to read.

That said, with the expenditure of only a little time and effort, you could turn this post into something I would like to read.

"Blue Moon" is one of my favorite songs, and were you to present it to us as a "poem" for discussion, it could become something I would very much like reading.

All you would need to do is to explain *why* you feel it should be discussed as a poem (as well as a song). What elements make it something more than just a song lyric? Can the lyric stand on its own as written verse? Why?

The moon and love are both traditional topics for poetry -- what poems (if any) does "Blue Moon" draw on, or allude to? Does the blue moon hold any significance for lovers in Druidism? etc.

I would much rather discuss your views on what makes "Blue Moon" a poem, than to click on links to famous poems (as one of our group's biggest trolls is well known for doing).

The bottom line is: if you wish to discuss poetry here, we shall look forward to discussing it with you. But if you're just here to make off-topic cross-posts, we would pr-efer that you remove alt.arts.poetry.comments from your spam list.

[Will Dockery]

Hello David, the version I remember best is the Bob Dylan cover, for one thing it was one of the first Dylan songs I heard, back in the early 1970s:

https://youtu.be/uNZNxcW80es?si=rsFIAVHLe4abBJIr

[General-Zod]

Great version..!

[NancyGene]

We don't see the logic that "crossposting is better than multiposting." Better for you or better for the groups that you send the messages to?

Why would you think that it was a good idea to send the message "Justin Trudeau is not gay" and some ramblings to TWENTY-SIX groups on August 15?

>
> That said, with the expenditure of only a little time and effort, you could turn this post into something I would like to read.
>
> "Blue Moon" is one of my favorite songs, and were you to present it to us as a "poem" for discussion, it could become something I would very much like reading.
>
> All you would need to do is to explain *why* you feel it should be discussed as a poem (as well as a song). What elements make it something more than just a song lyric? Can the lyric stand on its own as written verse? Why?

We wonder why there is only one rhyme in the first stanza of the song, and the last word in the last three lines is "for."

>
> The moon and love are both traditional topics for poetry -- what poems (if any) does "Blue Moon" draw on, or allude to? Does the blue moon hold any significance for lovers in Druidism? etc.
>
> I would much rather discuss your views on what makes "Blue Moon" a poem, than to click on links to famous poems (as one of our group's biggest trolls is well known for doing).
>
> The bottom line is: if you wish to discuss poetry here, we shall look forward to discussing it with you. But if you're just here to make off-topic cross-posts, we would pr-efer that you remove alt.arts.poetry.comments from your spam list.

Mr. Dalton appears to think that his name should appear in many groups. Blame it on the moon.

[Faraway Star]

On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 1:55:05 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:

Well put, David.

[NancyGene]

...

[Ash Wurthing]

On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 1:55:05 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:

You post got buried by your buddies >.<
I already knew it was a super blue barley moon in Pisces-- I often do special editions for blue moons and for the first time ever, it's solely of poetry. Trying to come up with something better than super blue moon edition...

[Will Dockery]

I've told the story of the unique introduction to Bob Dylan I and others here in the South had, but it might be worth repeating for the newer readers here.

🙂

[NancyGene]

Maybe blew moon?

[Ash Wurthing]

Newer readers? You're truly delusional!

[Ash Wurthing]

Not epic enough... Sovereign Blue Moon Edition

[NancyGene]

Maybe not, but it's topical for today!

[Ash Wurthing]

Topical for today, you say? It's topical for everyday here, I dare say!

[NancyGene]

True, sWill, Jordy's Uncle, Sulzbach and Dunce blow every day, and then moon legitimate poets.

[Will Dockery]

If your friends would stop trying to run new members away from the group.

[Ash Wurthing]

As if your friend and you, Zod and Jordy hand waving him saying that I celebrate the mass murder of school children and want him and all Livertarians dead is not bad?

[Will Dockery]

Stop lying, Ash.

I've done no waving.

HTH and HAND.

[Ash Wurthing]

You three were in the threads (although I should acknowledge that Zod and Jordy both ducked out as Dance got worst with his accusations against me) and none of you spoke out against the obvious false accusations your friend Dance made against not just me but also one of your so called "Usenet friends". You were there the entire time defending Dance as if he wasn't doing a single wrong thing. You never once defended your so called "Usenet friend" while I did defend him against Dance's attacks.
Shall I show your friend David exactly what Dance did to another of your "Usenet friends" and you were there doing nothing but defending (hand waving) what Dance was doing?
Both you and Dance troll goose stepped into that mess that you made of your reps-- and all in blind desperation to get at me.

[Will Dockery]

Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 7:55:59 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:

>> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > General-Zod wrote:

>> > > > > > > Hello David, the version I remember best is the Bob Dylan cover, for one thing it was one of the first Dylan songs I heard, back in the early 1970s:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > https://youtu.be/uNZNxcW80es?si=rsFIAVHLe4abBJIr
>> > > > > > Great version..!
>> > > > > I've told the story of the unique introduction to Bob Dylan I and others here in the South had, but it might be worth repeating for the newer readers here.
>> > > > Newer readers
>> > > If your friends would stop trying to run new members away from the group.
>> > As if your friend and you, Zod and Jordy hand waving
>> Stop lying, Ash.
>>
>> I've done no waving.

> You three were in the threads (although I should acknowledge that Zod and Jordy both ducked out

We all lost interest in your "transgender hysteria" early on, Ash.

Even your fellow trolls stopped posting in the thread.

HTH and HAND.

[Maximus]

David Dalton wrote:
> "Blue moon you saw me standing alone
> Without a dream in my heart
> Without a love of my own
> Blue moon you knew just what I was there for
> You heard me saying a prayer for
> Someone I really could care for”
> (Rodgers and Hart)
>
> Though I had remembered it as
> “Blue moon you left me standing alone there”
>
> Anyway, tonight’s full moon is a blue moon (second full moon
> in a calendar month) and supermoon (it is closer to the
> Earth and appears larger than usual).
>
> I wish good romance to any readers involved in a relationship.

thank you

>
> Then there is the Cowboy Junkies Blue Moon Revisited (Song For Elvis)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lRDT-TyPPo
>


--

“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”
- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christianity cannot prevail against reason, fact, and knowledge"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less the need for God."

[David Dalton]

On Aug 30, 2023, NancyGene wrote

(in article<188ab144-ff4f-41af...@googlegroups.com>):

Most of the groups I post to are ultra low traffic, which is partly
why I crosspost to many of them, to gather the few readers
in all of them. However I acknowledge that this group and
alt.atheism are higher traffic. But I did not intend, nor has it
happened, that the crosspost result in a flame war between
the groups. Also perhaps I should have been more careful
to gather like groups, e.g. this group, rec.arts.poems,
alt.music.lyrics, and rec.music.makers.songwriting, rather
than the crosspost I made to five groups I have been
“hanging out on” plus this group that I recently returned to.

[David Dalton]

On Aug 30, 2023, NancyGene wrote

(in article<188ab144-ff4f-41af...@googlegroups.com>):

For some reason this didn’t show up when I retrieved headers
so here it is again.

Most of the groups I post to are ultra low traffic, which is partly
why I crosspost to many of them, to gather the few readers
in all of them. However I acknowledge that this group and
alt.atheism are higher traffic. But I did not intend, nor has it
happened, that the crosspost result in a flame war between
the groups. Also perhaps I should have been more careful
to gather like groups, e.g. this group, rec.arts.poems,
alt.music.lyrics, and rec.music.makers.songwriting, rather
than the crosspost I made to five groups I have been

“hanging out on” plus this group that I recently returned to,
which I have noticed sometimes discusses songs.

[David Dalton]

On Aug 30, 2023, NancyGene wrote

(in article<188ab144-ff4f-41af...@googlegroups.com>):

OK, my last two posts by Eternal September didn’t show up
on E-S when I retrieved headers but have shown up on
google groups, so it seems posting is working with E-S
but reading (latest posts anyway) is temporarily down.

[David Dalton]

On Aug 30, 2023, NancyGene wrote:

> Mr. Dalton appears to think that his name should appear in many groups. Blame
> it on the moon.

For some reason this didn’t show up when I retrieved headers

by Eternal September so here it is again.

Most of the groups I post to are ultra low traffic, which is partly
why I crosspost to many of them, to gather the few readers
in all of them. However I acknowledge that this group and
alt.atheism are higher traffic. But I did not intend, nor has it
happened, that the crosspost result in a flame war between
the groups. Also perhaps I should have been more careful
to gather like groups, e.g. this group, rec.arts.poems,
alt.music.lyrics, and rec.music.makers.songwriting, rather
than the crosspost I made to five groups I have been

“hanging out on” plus this group that I recently returned to.

[Michael Christ]

On 31/08/2023 10:33 am, Maximus wrote:
> David Dalton wrote:
>> "Blue moon you saw me standing alone
>> Without a dream in my heart
>> Without a love of my own
>> Blue moon you knew just what I was there for
>> You heard me saying a prayer for
>> Someone I really could care for”
>> (Rodgers and Hart)
>>
>> Though I had remembered it as
>> “Blue moon you left me standing alone there”
>>
>> Anyway, tonight’s full moon is a blue moon (second full moon
>> in a calendar month) and supermoon (it is closer to the
>> Earth and appears larger than usual).
>>
>> I wish good romance to any readers involved in a relationship.
>
> thank you

Yes, thank you.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/z-zqZjr-QKQ






Michael Christ

>
>>
>> Then there is the Cowboy Junkies Blue Moon Revisited (Song For Elvis)
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lRDT-TyPPo
>>
>
>

--

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind, because what do you have that is lasting? It is not so much
being punished, it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: Desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God, a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

[David Dalton]

On Aug 30, 2023, NancyGene wrote:

> Why would you think that it was a good idea to send the message "Justin
> Trudeau is not gay" and some ramblings to TWENTY-SIX groups on August 15?

Most of those groups are ultra low traffic, and I posted to many
of them to gather the readers among them. The post was
on-topic for most of the groups. And the main point of the
post was that Justin Trudeau is a lesbianT, or transgendered
lesbian, or spiritually lesbian in male form, and thus is
compatible with and attractive to both bifs and lesbians
(in his species, if the species split has occurred, but
if not in his species they might remember past attraction).

Also some have been speculating that Justin’s marriage
breakup and his wearing pink to Barbie might be a
sign that he is gay, and I wanted to say that that was
not the case, he is lesbianT, and even if I am wrong in
that he is an ally to the LGBT community.

--
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;

And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we standâ€

[Michael Pendragon]

Gee, thanks, spambot. Now you've got Christies and Atheists spewing their propaganda here.

You've worn out your welcome here. Begone!

[Will Dockery]

On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 1:06:53 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>
> "Blue moon you saw me standing alone
> Without a dream in my heart
> Without a love of my own
> Blue moon you knew just what I was there for
> You heard me saying a prayer for
> Someone I really could care for”
> (Rodgers and Hart)
>
> Though I had remembered it as
> “Blue moon you left me standing alone there”
>
> Anyway, tonight’s full moon is a blue moon (second full moon
> in a calendar month) and supermoon (it is closer to the
> Earth and appears larger than usual).
>
> I wish good romance to any readers involved in a relationship.
>

> Then there is the Cowboy Junkies Blue Moon Revisited (Song For Elvis)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lRDT-TyPPo
>

> --
> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;

> And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)

Hello David, you're right, if you are up the blue moon is in the sky tonight, a bright full moon.

[W.Dockery]

Michael Christ wrote:

> On 31/08/2023 10:33 am, Maximus wrote:
>> David Dalton wrote:
>>> "Blue moon you saw me standing alone
>>> Without a dream in my heart
>>> Without a love of my own
>>> Blue moon you knew just what I was there for
>>> You heard me saying a prayer for
>>> Someone I really could care for”
>>> (Rodgers and Hart)
>>>
>>> Though I had remembered it as
>>> “Blue moon you left me standing alone there”
>>>
>>> Anyway, tonight’s full moon is a blue moon (second full moon
>>> in a calendar month) and supermoon (it is closer to the
>>> Earth and appears larger than usual).
>>>
>>> I wish good romance to any readers involved in a relationship.
>>
>> thank you

> Yes, thank you.

> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/z-zqZjr-QKQ






> Michael Christ

"God is a concept by which we measure our pain." -John Lennon

[Will Dockery]

David Dalton wrote:
>
> > "Blue moon you saw me standing alone
> > Without a dream in my heart
> > Without a love of my own
> > Blue moon you knew just what I was there for
> > You heard me saying a prayer for
> > Someone I really could care for”
> > (Rodgers and Hart)
> >
> > Though I had remembered it as
> > “Blue moon you left me standing alone there”
> >
> > Anyway, tonight’s full moon is a blue moon (second full moon
> > in a calendar month) and supermoon (it is closer to the
> > Earth and appears larger than usual).

It's a rare Super Moon also thats aligned with 7 planets which won't happen again for another 100 years.

> > I wish good romance to any readers involved in a relationship.
> >

> > Then there is the Cowboy Junkies Blue Moon Revisited (Song For Elvis)
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lRDT-TyPPo
> >

> > --
> > https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> > "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
> > And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)

...

[Faraway Star]

On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 1:06:53 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>
> "Blue moon you saw me standing alone
> Without a dream in my heart
> Without a love of my own
> Blue moon you knew just what I was there for
> You heard me saying a prayer for
> Someone I really could care for”
> (Rodgers and Hart)
>
> Though I had remembered it as
> “Blue moon you left me standing alone there”
>
> Anyway, tonight’s full moon is a blue moon (second full moon
> in a calendar month) and supermoon (it is closer to the
> Earth and appears larger than usual).
>

> I wish good romance to any readers involved in a relationship.
>
> Then there is the Cowboy Junkies Blue Moon Revisited (Song For Elvis)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lRDT-TyPPo
>
> --
> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
> And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)

Oh man the Super Blue Moon was amazing last night...

https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=561640084&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1073&sxsrf=AB5stBiv_mNUJuW_rFeae_RU7hgwG_B7Ig:1693503399631&q=super+blue+moon&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiQhL7kt4eBAxVNk2oFHRhhC98Q0pQJegQIChAB&biw=1920&bih=963&dpr=1

[Ash Wurthing]

Kudos Zod, you got it straight-- super blue moon! How far was your view from the light pollutions of the city?

[General-Zod]

Not far enough I recokon but the view was quite good in my camp area...

[Will Dockery]

On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 1:38:32 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:

Good find, Zod.

[Ash Wurthing]

By my soul's exhilaration, and this article - https://www.space.com/biggest-full-moon-of-2023, the actual super blue was a noon and what every one was watching was the waning super blue moon, as my fading afterglow let me know. Luna, Selene, is my mistress after all...
It will happen again in 2037.
I only saw something about Saturn being aligned though-- https://www.countryliving.com/life/a44787970/full-blue-moon-2023/

Also did you know that most of Uranus' moons are named after Shakespeare characters? The rest after Alexander Pope's iirc.
https://www.folger.edu/podcasts/shakespeare-unlimited/shakespearean-moons-uranus/

[Will Dockery]

Just 14 years, I may be able to make it to that one.

🙂

[David Dalton]

On Aug 31, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote:

> Gee, thanks, spambot. Now you've got Christies and Atheists spewing their
> propaganda here.
>
> You've worn out your welcome here. Begone!

Go to hell, you self-appointed moderator of an unmoderated
group. If you don’t want to see my posts, put me in your
killfile, or just skip them. There are at least a few long term
regulars who do want to see my posts and at least a couple
who asked me to return to this group.

--
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;

And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)

[David Dalton]

On Aug 31, 2023, Will Dockery wrote:

> Hello David, you're right, if you are up the blue moon is in the sky tonight,
> a bright full moon.

Unfortunately it was cloudy here last night and is again tonight.

[David Dalton]

On Aug 31, 2023, Faraway Star wrote
(in article<b684ac4a-c9b6-46ba...@googlegroups.com>):

> Oh man the Super Blue Moon was amazing last night...

When there is a cold day on a nudist beach
there are a lot of blue moons. :-)

--
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;

And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we standâ€

[Will Dockery]

On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 11:26:25 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> On Aug 31, 2023, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > Hello David, you're right, if you are up the blue moon is in the sky tonight,
> > a bright full moon.
> Unfortunately it was cloudy here last night and is again tonight.

That's what happens so often with events like this, we got lucky for a change down here in the Deep South.

> --
> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
> And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)

...

[Michael Pendragon]

On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 11:25:22 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> On Aug 31, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > Gee, thanks, spambot. Now you've got Christies and Atheists spewing their
> > propaganda here.
> >
> > You've worn out your welcome here. Begone!
> Go to hell, you self-appointed moderator of an unmoderated
> group. If you don’t want to see my posts, put me in your
> killfile, or just skip them. There are at least a few long term
> regulars who do want to see my posts and at least a couple
> who asked me to return to this group.

Will Dockery and crew are not "regulars" -- they are trolls who disrupt the group 24/7 with spamposts, reciprocal slurpages, and imbecilic "Hello" posts to "Jordy."

If you're here to help them turn AAPC into an intellectual wasteland, we've no need of you. Begone!

[Will Dockery]

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 9:19:34 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 11:25:22 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> > On Aug 31, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > Gee, thanks, spambot. Now you've got Christies and Atheists spewing their
> > > propaganda here.
> > >
> > > You've worn out your welcome here. Begone!
> > Go to hell, you self-appointed moderator of an unmoderated
> > group. If you don’t want to see my posts, put me in your
> > killfile, or just skip them. There are at least a few long term
> > regulars who do want to see my posts and at least a couple
> > who asked me to return to this group.
> Will Dockery and crew are not "regulars"

Stop lying, Pendragon.

I've been a regular poster on this poetry group for over twenty years.

HTH and HAND.

[Michael Pendragon]

No, Donkey. You've been the resident troll for over twenty years.

Go away.

[Will Dockery]

<Troll snip>

As expected, the troll, Michael Pendragon, calls another person a troll.

No problem, you and your troll friends will show your malicious agenda here soon enough.

HTH and HAND.

[Michael Pendragon]

My friends and I participate in the Official AAPC Poetry Journal, "A Year of Sundays" (from which your trolling has gotten you permanently banned). We critique one another's poetry in the Critic's Corner thread, and discuss poetry in On-Topic threads (like NancyGene's recent thread asking us what poem we think to have been the most significant in the past 200 years -- and why).

You, otoh, bump your old poetry to the top of the feed, graciously receive canned slurps from the General, and say "hello" to "Jordy" 24 times a day.

"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."
Matthew 7:20

[Will Dockery]

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 10:11:18 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 10:01:59 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 9:47:07 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 11:25:22 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> > > >> On Aug 31, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Gee, thanks, spambot. Now you've got Christies and Atheists spewing their
> > > > > > > propaganda here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You've worn out your welcome here. Begone!
> > > > > > Go to hell, you self-appointed moderator of an unmoderated
> > > > > > group. If you don’t want to see my posts, put me in your
> > > > > > killfile, or just skip them. There are at least a few long term
> > > > > > regulars who do want to see my posts and at least a couple
> > > > > > who asked me to return to this group.
> > > > > Will Dockery and crew are not "regulars"
> > > > Stop lying, Pendragon.
> > > >
> > > > I've been a regular poster on this poetry group for over twenty years.
> > > No, Donkey
> > <Troll snip>
> >
> > As expected, the troll, Michael Pendragon, calls another person a troll.
> >
> > No problem, you and your troll friends will show your malicious agenda here soon enough.
> My friends and I participate in the Official

It's only "official" because you say it is.

Zod described you and your bogus projects accurately:

"Michael Pendragon is a control freak on an ego trip."

HTH and HAND.

[Michael Pendragon]

It's basically just the previous Guidelines with a few slight modifications to prevent trolls from burying the group in "hello" posts, reciprocal slurps, and necro-bumps.

One can see why a troll would be opposed to it.

[Will Dockery]

Basically just your bogus rules, as David Dalton calls you, a "wannabe moderator."


And so it goes.

[Will Dockery]

On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 8:39:29 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
>

According to the Weather Network the wait will be longer:

"Look up on the night of August 30! We haven't seen a Full Moon like this one in over 27 years, and we won't see another one until the 22nd century. "

Watch more video: https://bit.ly/45BVMVd

[Ash Wurthing]

Could you at least provided a link to the actual video for me to click on to listen to, rather than a page full of videos that I have to scroll through and try to read the titles in images that I had disabled and I cannot do a text search on either.

But at least I found a video about 46,000 years frozen worns thawed back to life that I can haunt my crew with for some story ideas... I CANNOT WATCH VIDEOS MIND YOU.

[Will Dockery]

Okay, sorry about that, I'll look for a better source.

[Ash Wurthing]

Bogus guidelines which include the original FAQ that you fools promoted in oppostion
You just want anyone telling you to moderate your posting to avoid crowding out the others that you're desperately trying to be part of, and to keep things on topic for a group created for more detailed commentary on poetry that a simple poetry posting group expects of its posters.
A truly legitimate poetry group wouldn't have you because of your selfish behavior.
So let us wail the elegy for Usenet poetry, smothered by the selfishness of poetry spammers...

> And so it goes.

Yes it does, you and apparently David, just treating me and this group of other poets as just your captive audience for you to constantly spam your work to, now matter how old and ignored, and to bury the work of the rest of us in a "not a popularity contest" competition* to always have their threads at the top in desperate bid for the attention of the silent audience that may not even exist.

* your editor of your "garbage" poetry opinion of others taunted us that we had to keep bumping our work to keep up with you.

[Will Dockery]

No Ash, I didn't really have much of an interest in any FAQ, definitely not the PJR version.

HTH and HAND.

[Ash Wurthing]

"The space agency defines a blue moon as the second full moon in a single month. The phrase "once in a blue moon" happens on average every two-and-a-half years.
According to NASA scientists, about 25% of all full moons are supermoons, while only 3% of full moons are blue moons. The occurrence of super blue moons is irregular and can span up to 20 years, with an average of 10 years."
Plus some stunning images (or at least they tell me, i cannot tell really) of the super blue moon as it was seen around the world:
https://www.foxweather.com/earth-space/super-blue-moon-august-30

[Will Dockery]

Thanks for the information, Ash.

[Jordy C]

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 12:49:39 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 8:09:31 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 7:55:59 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 7:47:06 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 7:19:58 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 6:26:34 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 6:12:37 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 4:50:25 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:

> > > > > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 1:06:53 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> "Blue moon you saw me standing alone
> > > > > > > > >> Without a dream in my heart
> > > > > > > > >> Without a love of my own
> > > > > > > > >> Blue moon you knew just what I was there for
> > > > > > > > >> You heard me saying a prayer for
> > > > > > > > >> Someone I really could care for”
> > > > > > > > >> (Rodgers and Hart)
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Though I had remembered it as
> > > > > > > > >> “Blue moon you left me standing alone there”
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Anyway, tonight’s full moon is a blue moon (second full moon
> > > > > > > > >> in a calendar month) and supermoon (it is closer to the
> > > > > > > > >> Earth and appears larger than usual).
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> I wish good romance to any readers involved in a relationship.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Then there is the Cowboy Junkies Blue Moon Revisited (Song For Elvis)
> > > > > > > > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lRDT-TyPPo
> > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > >> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> > > > > > > > >> "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
> > > > > > > > >> And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)
> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hello David, the version I remember best is the Bob Dylan cover, for one thing it was one of the first Dylan songs I heard, back in the early 1970s:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://youtu.be/uNZNxcW80es?si=rsFIAVHLe4abBJIr
> > > > > > > > Great version..!
> > > > > > > I've told the story of the unique introduction to Bob Dylan I and others here in the South had, but it might be worth repeating for the newer readers here.
> > > > > > Newer readers
> > > > > If your friends would stop trying to run new members away from the group.
> > > > As if your friend and you, Zod and Jordy hand waving
> > > Stop lying, Ash.
> > >
> > > I've done no waving.
> > You three were in the threads (although I should acknowledge that Zod and Jordy both ducked out as Dance got worst with his accusations against me) and none of you spoke out against the obvious false accusations your friend Dance made against not just me but also one of your so called "Usenet friends". You were there the entire time defending Dance as if he wasn't doing a single wrong thing. You never once defended your so called "Usenet friend" while I did defend him against Dance's attacks.
> > Shall I show your friend David exactly what Dance did to another of your "Usenet friends" and you were there doing nothing but defending (hand waving) what Dance was doing?
> > Both you and Dance troll goose stepped into that mess that you made of your reps-- and all in blind desperation to get at me.
>
>
As you’ve previously acknowledged, I DID defend you against those charges… I’ve said more than once that I believe it was a misunderstanding, and that NEITHER of you wishes death or any type of harm on any children or anyone who is transgender…

[Ash Wurthing]

Sorry Pendragon, but I resisted as long as I could...
But I got an atheist, a Christian, a Pagan, a idiot New Ager, a sodden Dharma Bum and a Communist to boot as my captive audience to fire brand!
"It is the fate of great achievements, born from a way of life that sets truth before security, to be gobbled up by you and excreted in the form of shit. For centuries great, brave, lonely men have been telling you what to do. Time and again you have corrupted, diminished and demolished their teachings; time and again you have been captivated by their weakest points, taken not the great truth, but some trifling error as your guiding principal. This, little man, is what you have done with Christianity, with the doctrine of sovereign people, with socialism, with everything you touch. Why, you ask, do you do this? I don't believe you really want an answer. When you hear the truth you'll cry bloody murder, or commit it."
-- Wilhelm Reich, "Listen, Little Man!'

[Will Dockery]

On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 11:29:20 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> On Aug 31, 2023, Faraway Star wrote
> (in article<b684ac4a-c9b6-46ba...@googlegroups.com>):
> > Oh man the Super Blue Moon was amazing last night...
> When there is a cold day on a nudist beach
> there are a lot of blue moons. :-)

Good point.

🙂

[Ash Wurthing]

Only to the simple minded! Such things are just insignificant Mad Magazine humor when it comes to creative achievement.

Now stand aside, you just amused with nudist humor, for I have composed dirges for AAP, AAPC and RAP. And I have been informed that the Abyss has me blocked on most social media-- it tires of me shouting at it, so y'all will have to suffer my inciting. I still have my Ode to the Dirge, Epic Director's Cut to recite..

[Will Dockery]

On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 4:45:34 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 4:35:26 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 11:29:20 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> > > On Aug 31, 2023, Faraway Star wrote
> > > (in article<b684ac4a-c9b6-46ba...@googlegroups.com>):
> > > > Oh man the Super Blue Moon was amazing last night...
> > > When there is a cold day on a nudist beach
> > > there are a lot of blue moons. :-)
> > Good point.
> >
> > 🙂
> > > --
> > > https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> > > "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
> > > And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we standâ€
> Only to the

It was a joke, Ash.

Lighten up.

🙂

[Ash Wurthing]

I did thank you. But tell your friend to make amends then if it was just a misunderstanding because he did as viciously as he claims was done to him, you and Willy to people that weren't a part of it ...
"So clasp your hands and bend your broken knees
For no one else will, and your confessions
Of worthless guilt, are not your saving grace
And so you seek redemption at the puritan's hand
Is the hell you find here not enough for you?
To find your redemption"
--"The Puritan's Hand" ~~Primordial

[Ash Wurthing]

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 12:44:08 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> No Ash, I didn't really have much of an interest in any FAQ, definitely not the PJR version.

So, untrue, you seem very interested in this FAQ:
The Will Dockery FAQ
Zod
unread,
Aug 2, 2021, 7:20:27 PM
The Will Dockery FAQ
> Will Dockery poetry:
> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> Songs of Will Dockery:
> https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
> https://www.amazon.com/Selected-Poems-1976-2019-Will-Dockery/dp/0994860013
> Selected Poems 1976-2019
> by Will Dockery (Author), George J. Dance (Editor)
Classic poems..The Will Dockery FAQ.!!!
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/wsdDCXXK4Ik/m/p-MbbizmBAAJ

Will Dockery
unread,
Aug 5, 2021, 3:56:44 PM
On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 7:20:27 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
A good basic overview, my friend.

[Ash Wurthing]

On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 4:48:50 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 4:45:34 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 4:35:26 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 11:29:20 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> > > > On Aug 31, 2023, Faraway Star wrote
> > > > (in article<b684ac4a-c9b6-46ba...@googlegroups.com>):
> > > > > Oh man the Super Blue Moon was amazing last night...
> > > > When there is a cold day on a nudist beach
> > > > there are a lot of blue moons. :-)
> > > Good point.
> > >
> > > 🙂
> > > > --
> > > > https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> > > > "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
> > > > And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we standâ€
> > Only to the
> It was a joke, Ash.
> Lighten up.

And I was joking also, but I will not lighten up when it comes to the laughing matter of what became of Usenet poetry.
And with all these horrendous portents weighing upon me, I must hopelessly contend:
"I am now the most miserable man living. If what I feel were equally distributed to the whole human family, there would not be one cheerful face on the earth. Whether I shall ever be better I can not tell; I awfully forebode I shall not."
~~Abraham Lincoln, letter to John Stuart, 1841

I am a son of Man- an alpha and omega
Like Christ in crucified effigy
Born without consent into Sin condemning me
Against my wishes to perish like a beggar
Of my Father for mercy from his Revelations
At the callous hands of His creations

And I shall not fear the shadow
Of this valley I must persevere
To keep a path straight and narrow
Despite the judgement of my peers
To spite their slings and arrows
I will not falter, beg for their favor
So fickle unlike their love to harrow
Like they've done to their saviors.

The Red and the Blue
inveighing what is false or what is true.
of The Left or The Right
simplistic scales of black and white-
to weigh who are wrong and who are right.
While this will be considered 'preachy'
by those in favor of their own reverie,
misfortune's memory makes it not so easy
to ignore those lost to the treachery

That we were created by our Gods
and favored as Their chosen
awarded the Earth as ours
and despite Their Commandments
They seem unable to protect us
from Their very own creations

Our nations so pusillanimous
declared to be the greatest,
with blind freedoms so magnanimous
None saved us from the madness
of lives needlessly cut short
being slaughtered like simple animals
[AFWT DCCC:19 (tribulation- harrowed mix)] ~~AshWurthing

"Ancient fire, fill my raging heart
As I charge into the endless dark
Steel my will against what hell may come
I will not turn back, I know what must be done
Dying fire filled my anguished heart
As I fought against the endless dark
I broke my will against the hell that came
Relieve me of my charge, carry on the flame"
--'Abysswalker' ~~Visigoth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fmkMa9K0v4

"To ease me of this power to think,
That through my bosom raves,
I’ll headlong leap from hell’s high brink,
And wallow in its waves."

"Though devils yell, and burning chains
May waken long regret;
Their frightful screams, and piercing pains,
Will help me to forget."
~~Anonymous (attributed to Lincoln)

[NancyGene]

Preach it, Ash!

[Will Dockery]

On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 5:07:13 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 12:44:08 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > No Ash, I didn't really have much of an interest in any FAQ, definitely not the PJR version.
> So, untrue, you seem very interested in this FAQ:

I didn't skip and ignore it, obviously.

"Take a picture, it'll last longer." -Pee Wee Herman

https://imgur.com/gallery/Bhy9gBY

> The Will Dockery FAQ
> Zod
> unread,
> Aug 2, 2021, 7:20:27 PM
> The Will Dockery FAQ
> > Will Dockery poetry:
> > https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > Songs of Will Dockery:
> > https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
> > https://www.amazon.com/Selected-Poems-1976-2019-Will-Dockery/dp/0994860013
> > Selected Poems 1976-2019
> > by Will Dockery (Author), George J. Dance (Editor)

Seems up to date.

> Classic poems..The Will Dockery FAQ.!!!
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/wsdDCXXK4Ik/m/p-MbbizmBAAJ
>
> Will Dockery
> unread,
> Aug 5, 2021, 3:56:44 PM
> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 7:20:27 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> A good basic overview, my friend.

Now. Back on topic, last night s moon.

Low Red Moon:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02KXx5FZntVEDaP24mCsjFkppJaRcm7tTL6ZnBzh5s5pZnk7Sc5wpUms1SrW9wofktl&id=796432585&mibextid=Nif5oz

HTH and HAND.

[Ash Wurthing]

Dude, IIRC, the last day of the full moon was Friday-- it's waning now...

[NancyGene]

Yes, it's waning gibbous now (except for in Columbus, where it's made of cheese).

[Ash Wurthing]

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 12:44:08 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:

> No Ash, I didn't really have much of an interest in any FAQ, definitely not the PJR version.
>
> HTH and HAND.

Is this another of your misrepresentations?
The FAQ that I think you said is PJR's and which I requested Pendragon to include in the new guidelines originally came from:
Heidi Stephens
Feb 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/4JCb2t1YHCQ/m/lwRSUy4uWVAJ
This is how I see heading the regular post -- does monthly sound good?
If I use the same header each time, then the regulars can filter it out
and save space.
Revised with many thanks to Josh, Sam, Mike, etc.
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS FOR ALT.ARTS.POETRY.COMMENTS
PART 1 OF 2
*Many thanks for Dave "ButtonPresser" for the idea and foundation for
this document!
1. What is AAPC?
2. What does C&C mean?
3. How should I post my poetry?
4. How many poems should I post at a time?
5. What kind of header should I use?
6. Do I have to have a title for my poem?
7. Do I have to write a certain kind of poetry?
8. What if I don't get any comments?
9. Should I respond to the comments I receive?
10. When and how should I comment on other people's posts?
11. Is it OK to email my comments directly to the poet?
12. Can I rewrite someone's poem for them?
13. Do you have IRC chats or other scheduled gatherings?
14. Are there any AAPC-related web sites?
15. Are there any published / famous / infamous poets in the group?
16. Do poetry editors read the newsgroup?
17. Might I be offered a book contract by posting my poetry here?
18. What is considered off-topic?
19. Do I have to use my real name?

Will Dockery
Feb 21, 2021, 3:05:43 AM
On Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Heidi Stephens wrote:
< This is how I see heading the regular post -- does monthly sound good?
< If I use the same header each time, then the regulars can filter it out
< and save space.
< Revised with many thanks to Josh, Sam, Mike, etc.
Lest we forget.
:)

General Zod
Feb 25, 2021, 10:54:40 PM
The original and best FAQ...

[Ash Wurthing]

except in Columbus, where some denizens are trapped in their glory days past, so it will be August 2023's super blue till the next one in 20 years or so...

[Will Dockery]

There you go, speaking for others again, in other words making it up as you go along, Ash.

And so it goes.

[Will Dockery]

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:42:54 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:

Thanks again for trying to set the record straight, Jordy.

And so it goes.

[Ash Wurthing]

Explain, if you can how putty words into others mouths (which you have yet to prove) is, aka "in other words", making things up. But I do love how much power you give my opinions, that they're facts! Or is it because they're right and it stings?

> And so it goes.

[Ash Wurthing]

And so it goes, #WillDockery, trying to hide the truth...
Jordy defended me once, weakly, hardly like he speaks out about Trump or Jim. And he didn't say it to Dance or while Dance was attacking us, and only when confronted about it in another thread:
Jordy C
May 8, 2023, 9:21:27 AM
"personally don't believe that either you or George are transphobic, and don't believe that either of you were wishing anyone to be killed, it seems to me that it was a misunderstanding on both sides..."
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/Z5YwNTFaUfE/m/-_ntPK2AAQAJ

##that was in response to this:
Ash Wurthing
May 8, 2023, 1:21:54 AM
I may have to agree with ME, and MY SIDE is saying that the side you're with, who are trying to fool everyone that THEY'RE THE GOOD GUYS, is showing their selves to be pretty nasty... I do believe you once said both sides were acting in an appalling manner.
Dance saying that I'm applauding the murder of children. And his proof is a misrepresentation of a post sequence that he doctored to make it look like I was responding to what he inserted instead of what I was actually responding to-- just to make it look like I was applauding a new clip about a mass shooting.
Just sayin'...

[Will Dockery]

You spew lies and misrepresentations and pretend others said it.

HTH and HAND.

[Michael Pendragon]

Actually, that's what you and the Dunce are famous for.

You do it by post-editing others' statements, and the Dunce does it by restating our posts and changing the meaning in the process.

[Faraway Star]

Something Ash has been doing here for months, nay, years...

[Michael Pendragon]

Actually, that's what Will Donkey and the Dunce are famous for.

Will does it by post-editing others' statements, and the Dunce does it by restating our posts and changing the meaning in the process.

[Faraway Star]

Actually you are a miserable, malicious troll your own self, Pen...!

[Michael Pendragon]

Myself, General. Not my own self.

Do you talk that way in real life? Or are you trying to present yourself as "educated" by filling your sentences with unnecessary verbiage?

[Will Dockery]

In fact, Pendragon seems proud to be a delusional troll.

And so it goes.

[Michael Pendragon]

How would you know what I'm proud of, Donkey?

Oh, right... just more of your usual trolling.

[Will Dockery]

I wrote "seems" proud to be a delusional troll.

That's my opinion.

HTH and HAND.

[Ash Wurthing]

Prove it...
I can prove that you, #GeneralZod/FarawayStar, #WillDockery & #GeorgeJDance lies and misrepresentations, starting with the comics mocking were you replace my words with your blatantly false ones-- like "on display" instead of "deposited"...

How about Will putting words in my mouth and refusing to retract when he admitted to it when he was caught doing it?

Ash Wurthing
Jul 9, 2023, 10:00:35 PM
Hello sWilly, you're slacking in your attempted laming and shaming-- we need this up top for everyone to see Dance's and your true faces...
I didn't say "All the World's a stage." The Bard doesn't own the concept that the World being Life's stage, it's a common concept and saying now, and he's not the only one among billions and centuries that could come up with that concept-- anyone not even knowing what he wrote could come up with that.
For those that think everything is a direct Shakespeare reference, there's more things in the World, armchairist, than you know in that narrow minded, self absorbed world view of yours.

"They do say that the World is a stage and so would be the venues of the Digital Age."

Will Dockery
Jul 10, 2023, 12:36:49 AM
On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 10:00:35 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 7:33:30 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 10:30:23 AM UTC-5, George Dance wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 9:22:14 AM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing decided to prove he did, too, know something about English poetry by namedropping William Shakespeare (with hilarious results):
> > >
> > > > Now where was I?
> > > > Is that the smell of burnt threads in the morning? Incinerated intentions and dreams scorched? How pleasing, it inspires me to recite some verses!
> > > >
> > > > They do say that the World is a stage
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Here

< I didn't say "All the World's a stage."

See above, apparently you did. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ash Wurthing
Jul 10, 2023, 6:44:46 AM
Actually copy and paste the sentence from my words that says "All the World's a stage," if that is so... I bet you can't...

W.Dockery
Jul 10, 2023, 7:25:10 AM
Okay, you wrote "the World is a stage."

Ash Wurthing
Jul 10, 2023, 8:43:29 PM
Nonapology noted...
and since that's all you give for me to comment on, then I shall comment on it's cowardliness.

W.Dockery
Jul 10, 2023, 9:10:12 PM
Ash Wurthing wrote:
< Nonapology noted

That's right, no apology.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/cQx-pzvZMR8/m/B_2qGSkuAAAJ
- - -
Funny how Will can express his opinion that other people's work is garbage, that the creators they like are nothing and excuse it as his opinion, but anyone's similar opinion of what he does is lies and misrepresentations. Why didn't Will label this from a defender of him as lies and misrepresentation:

"What annoys me is that you think your opinions are more important than Michael's or Ash's or even mine. Other people's opinions are just as important even if you don't agree with them. Ash and Michael are poetry lovers, and their opinions are valid. I don't like the way they belittle you, but sometimes you unwittingly egg them on. You don't need to get the last word in to validate yourself."
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/oC9y6haxMQM/m/L25h6RJxAQAJ
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ

How about Dance's claims that I have a list of those I want to die, that I applaud the mass murder of school children, that someone wanted me to put Dance on it, that I said that Dance wanted trans people, the sick and elderly on? I can't remember all the whacked crap he spewed-- I'll gather it up and post it here.
Now get to censoring and burying the embarrassing truth about your so called good guy, uncool kid crew-- and I will keep posting your very own words.

[Ash Wurthing]

You asked for it, fool-- I will post Dance's very own words and I do believe there was a post or two from you defending him.

Also hilarious is that you took my nonsense words and trying to tell people that they're SERIOUS lies and misrepresentations!
You're the laughing stock of Losenet poetry... especially with below:

"You spew lies and misrepresentations and pretend others said it."

Since when is pretending such an offense? Is this like you saying people having fantasies is wrong? Dude you would be the Usenet's biggest offender, pretending and fantasizing that you're something on Usenet!

[Will Dockery]

Like I said, you spew lies and misrepresentations and claim others said or think it, Ash.

You've been doing this pretty much since you began posting here.

HTH and HAND.

[Michael Pendragon]

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 3:06:43 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Like I said, you spew lies and misrepresentations and claim others said or think it, Ash.
>
> You've been doing this pretty much since you began posting here.

Actually, that's what you and the Dunce are famous for.

You do it by post-editing others' statements, and the Dunce does it by restating our posts and changing the meaning in the process.

[General-Zod]

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 2:39:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 2:33:44 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:

>>> Ash wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 12:48:45 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 12:41:37 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Low Red Moon:
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02KXx5FZntVEDaP24mCsjFkppJaRcm7tTL6ZnBzh5s5pZnk7Sc5wpUms1SrW9wofktl&id=796432585&mibextid=Nif5oz
>> > > > > > > > > > > Dude, IIRC, the last day of the full moon was Friday-- it's waning now...
>> > > > > > > > > > Yes, it's waning gibbous now (except for in Columbus, where it's made of cheese).
>> > > > > > > > > except in Columbus, where some denizens are trapped in their glory days past, so it will be August 2023's super blue till the next one in 20 years or so...
>> > > > > > > > There you go, speaking for others again, in other words making it up as you go along, Ash.
>> > > > > > > Explain, if you can how putty words into others mouths

>> > > > > > You spew lies and misrepresentations and pretend others said it..

>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > HTH and HAND.
>> > > > > Something Ash has been doing here for months, nay, years...
>> > > > Actually, that's
>> > > Actually you are a miserable, malicious troll your own self, Pen...!
>> > In fact, Pendragon seems proud to be a delusional troll.
>> How would you know what I'm proud

> I wrote "seems" proud to be a delusional troll.

> That's my opinion.

> HTH and HAND.

Well, trolls like Pen can never admit to being trolls, but Pen proves your point just about every day here... ha ha.

[Will Dockery]

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 3:22:39 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 3:06:43 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > Like I said, you spew lies and misrepresentations and claim others said or think it, Ash.
> >
> > You've been doing this pretty much since you began posting here.
> Actually, that's what

Actually, I expected you to defend your fellow troll, Pendragon.

After all, that's what you trolls do.

And so it goes.

[Michael Pendragon]

You mean like you and your Zod-sock are doing in this thread?

Got it.

[Will Dockery]

What you're doing here today?

Exactly, Pendragon.

HTH and HAND.

[Michael Pendragon]

I'm not defending Ash, Donkey. I'm merely pointing out your hypocrisy.

HtH & HAND

[Will Dockery]

Amusing how Pendragon tries to deny it, isn't it?

🙂

[Ash Wurthing]

Nor do you so called Dharma Bum...
George J. Dance
Nov 4, 2022, 6:06:39 PM
On 2022-11-04 4:45 p.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
< On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 4:36:08 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
< Soon, so soon, you'll be going off with your trademark "motherfucker"...

Why shouldn't he call MMP a motherfucker? What's your problem with that?

< As someone said, you have been made into a troll.

True: I said that, and I'll be glad to repeat it. Zod wasn't a troll
when he joined the group. Jim Senetto made him into one; just as he made
you into one.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/dqUNFN2mGxA/m/KHsU575QAgAJ