Minimize heart trouble ...

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

Don Roberto wrote:
> Henry Mydlarz wrote:
> > "outsider" wrote:
> >> GysdeJongh wrote:
> >>> no difference with preventing T2 trouble :)
> >>>
> >>> Eur J Nutr. 2012 Dec;51(8):917-26. doi: 10.1007/s00394-011-0268-2. Epub
> >>> 2011 Nov 6.
> >>> Nutrient and food intakes of middle-aged adults at low risk of
> >>> cardiovascular disease: the international study of macro-/micronutrients
> >>> and blood pressure (INTERMAP).
> >>>
> >>> PURPOSE: Individuals with favorable levels of readily measured
> >>> cardiovascular disease (CVD) risk factors (low risk, LR) experience low
> >>> long-term rates of CVD mortality and greater longevity. The purpose of
> >>> the current study was to compare nutrient/food intakes of LR
> >>> participants with participants not LR in the INTERMAP study. METHODS:
> >>> Men and women (40-59 years) from 17 population samples in four countries
> >>> (China, Japan, UK, US) provided four 24-h dietary recalls and two timed
> >>> 24-h urine collections. LR was defined as meeting all of the following
> >>> CVD risk criteria: systolic/diastolic blood pressure (BP) ? 120/ ? 80
> >>> mmHg; no drug treatment for high BP, hyperlipidemia, or CVD;
> >>> non-smoking; BMI <25.0 kg/m(2) (US, UK) or <23.0 kg/m(2) (China, Japan);
> >>> alcohol consumption <26.0 g/day (men)/<13.0 g/day (women); and no
> >>> history of diabetes or CVD. Multivariate logistic regression was used to
> >>> examine associations of nutrient/food intakes with LR. RESULTS: LR
> >>> individuals reported higher intake of vegetable protein, fiber,
> >>> magnesium, non-heme iron, potassium; lower energy intake; lower intake
> >>> of cholesterol, saturated fatty acids, animal protein; and lower 24-h
> >>> urinary sodium compared with individuals not LR. With regard to foods,
> >>> LR individuals reported higher intake of fruits, vegetables, grains,
> >>> pasta/rice, fish; lower intakes of meats, processed meats, high-fat
> >>> dairy, and sugar-sweetened beverages than individuals not LR.
> >>> CONCLUSIONS: Lower energy intake and differential intake of multiple
> >>> specific nutrients and foods are characteristic of individuals at low
> >>> risk for developing CVD. Identification of dietary habits associated
> >>> with LR is important for further development of public health efforts
> >>> aimed at reduction/prevention of CVD.
> >>> PMID: 22057680
> >>
> >> So the "Beefeaters" don't stand a very good chance, notwithstanding the
> >> traditional Eskimo diet.
> >>
> >> Doesn't that tell us that over the long term, survivors who live
> >> despite eating lots of beef and grains, will shift the genome to ever
> >> increasing numbers of people surviving in good health with a similar
> >> diet? So in a way, don't those who die young of CVD serve the rest
> >> of the population by not reproducing or at least not reproducing
> >> very much?
> >>
> >> I have to wonder where the expression, "the good die young" comes from.
> >> It seems to me that wealth that often leads to gluttony (one of the
> >> cardinal sins) would lead to much shorter average lifespans.
> >>
> >>
> > I saw the beginning of a TV documentary on eating last night.
> > Interesting to note that during the great depression in the 30s, when
> > poverty was rife, supposedly the average lifespan of a person went up.
> >
>
> As I have pointed out in another thread - according to what I have read
> - T2s were practically non-existent in central Europe during and after WW2.

Yes, the cause of T2 diabetes has always been the overeating, which is
simply eating more than the right amount, which is 32 oz of daily
food.

Thus, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter for it directly addresses the cause:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

and

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?

**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055f2e7cf3c590ee?

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e66adf59151b12b6?

[Ken]

`

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3 & 5) friends like Rod Eastman
( http://WDJW.net ) to also pray for Ken simply because we really love
him as our LORD loves and commands (John 15:12-3) with all glory to
GOD the Father:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/42797e450fd691c1?

Don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Happy Oyster]

On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:28:58 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

>... and encouraging born-again

"Born again" is nothing else but THEY MUST DIES FIRST! And THAT is what
Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung REALLY wants: that people die. See his online
deathlist with more than 260 names on it: People who he does not like
are to be killed by his "god". His god is a murderer.

Marke Berry is dead.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a killer. If you see him: do call the
police!
--

Crowd-funding is for money, crowd-publishing is for mankind.

http://www.supermanpost.com/

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc Andrew, with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Corinthians 13) advises all here to http://WDJW.net/BeSmart and read:

http://bit.ly/1aseRFR

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others globally --> http://GHHS2013.org ) are doing is much more sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

and

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?

**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055f2e7cf3c590ee?

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark 9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Emory's IMVC.org cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://bit.ly/13DJm9H
which is the only **healthy** way to cure obesity

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[//.]

Markea Berry

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[//.]

A little black girl is dead.

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Unknown]

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[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

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She was starved to death.

[1]

> She was starved to death.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

parasite-infested Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>
> "Hunger is starvation." -- satan (source of all lies) via Esau (Genesis 25:32)
>
> World Hunger:

Lie.

That which is dying is not hungry because that which is dying cannot
eat.

> Of the 7,014,490,217 current total world population 914,723,604 are
> wonderfully undernourished and have worms.

Lie.

Being either undernourished or having worms or both is not wonderful.

> We both win Doctor Chung.

Lie.

Your lying means you lose.

> The 8,200 who die today of starvation are the losers.

Lie.

"For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain." -- Apostle Paul
(Philippians 1:21) referring to the fact that sinning stops when
someone dies for there are no thoughts in the grave.

Those who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed among the 8,200 will be
raised up from the dead victorious when our risen LORD Jesus Christ of
Nazareth returns on that appointed day known only to the Father when
He will judge the living and the dead.

If everyone were to http://WDJW.net/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) the heart by
holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of daily food then by
GOD's Law of Mass Action there'd be no more starvation in this world.
Yes, gluttony is the deadliest sin because not only has it killed two
immortals (i.e. Adam&Eve) from the outset, it's killing more children
(via starvation and diseases like diabetes) than any other sin.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/34568ea05e07ad12?

parasite-infested Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > parasite-infested Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Dr. Chung,
> >> When I show my VA doctor you have diagnosed me as "parasite-infested"
> >> I'm sure he'll want a list of your findings to go along with all my
> >> oversea ports of call.
> >
> > Not when he reads that you advocate that people ingest tapeworms to
> > lose weight :-)
>
> Dear Dr. Chung,
> When I show my VA doctor you have diagnosed me as "parasite-infested"
> he'll not care about what I advocate...

Tapeworms are parasites and your doctor would comprehend what's
written here even if you feign ignorance :-)

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/41326cb7e90e12a7?

parasite-infested Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> parasite-infested Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> someone whose name's been blotted(Deu29:20) from His Book(Deu32:33)
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Suggested Reading for Andrew B. Chung:
>>>>>
>>>>> NIMH (National Institute of Mental Health) Eating Disorders:
>>>>> http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/eating-disorders/complete-index.shtml
>>>>
>>>> "An eating disorder is an illness that causes serious disturbances to
>>>> your everyday diet, such as eating extremely small amounts of food or
>>>> severely overeating."
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, eating the right amount, which is 32 oz of daily food, is
>>>> the absolutely farthest a person can be from an eating disorder just
>>>> as the farthest one can travel into a city is downtown.
>>>>
>>>> Source:
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0a1d98bdfcc7?
>>>>
>>>> someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <burp> we had a Thanksgiving buffet at the fellowship I attend Sunday
>>>>> eve, and I'm still feeling the effects.
>>>>
>>>> Your severely overeating does indicate that you have been cursed by
>>>> GOD with an eating disorder:
>>>>
>>>> "An eating disorder is an illness that causes serious disturbances to
>>>> your everyday diet, such as eating extremely small amounts of food or
>>>> severely overeating."
>>>>
>>>> Source:
>>>> http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/eating-disorders/complete-index.shtml
>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to see Doc Andy at one of those, holding up the line by
>>>>> weighing each portion of turkey and trimmings while making his
>>>>> calculations
>>>>
>>>> This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) weighs his meal (not
>>>> individual food items) right before giving thanks to the LORD for the
>>>> **amount** in ounces that He has provided and concluding by saying
>>>> "Jesus Christ is LORD" so that all would be encouraged that this is
>>>> being done in the Holy Spirit on a daily basis:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/WDJW/196255898065
>>>
>>> Do you check all food on a scales as you say, or do you estimate at times?
>>
>> This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) mindfully chooses to weigh
>> **all** his meals as he has written above and shown on Facebook with
>> all glory to GOD (Philippians 4:13).
>>
>> Source:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a9f3fd765e71beb5?
>>
>> parasite-infested Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Smarter to simply stop overeating without undereating.
>>
>> The absolutely only **healthy** way to lose the VAT to cure type-2
>> diabetes is to http://WDJW.net/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) the heart by
>> holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of daily food thereby
>> stopping (John 5:14) the original Adam&Eve sin of gluttony without
>> fasting.
>>
>>> If one thirsts for thin, it will happen with the two tapeworm approach
>>> automatically.
>>
>> Source:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/398ba83482596efd?
>>
>> Being infected by parasites is not healthy.
>>
>> Laus Deo (Luke 1:68) for His making fools of those who choose to mock
>> His servants out of their hatred (Luke 1:71) for them.
>>
>> May GOD stricken you, Jimmy, with parasites so that you wither away as
>> did the fig tree that He cursed nearly 2000 years ago enroute to
>> clearing out His Temple of money-changers, in the name of Jesus Christ
>> of Nazareth. Amen.

> Another pox from sightwalker.

Lie.

All can see that what is requested for you is parasites (not an
infection by a pox virus) from GOD per your own advice:

"If one thirsts for thin, it will happen with the two tapeworm
approach automatically." -- Jimmy the parasite-infested Alpha

May GOD bless the parasites inside you, Jimmy, more than ever so they
will consume you faster than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1eec80bfbeb08270?

parasite-infested Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Rod wrote:
> >> parasite-infested Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> >>
> >>> No, you'll die at some point, if it's next week or in 20 years you are
> >>> still going to die and I'll have little to do with it as I'm not giving
> >>> you advice as sightwalker.
> >>
> >> I'm taking my doctors advice. My doctor isn't Andrew.
> >
> > Moreover, this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ), who walks by
> > faith (experiential evidence of that which is unseen for which he has
> > hope) and not by sight (as evident by his testing spirits which are unseen
> > to determine which ones are from GOD) does not give specific medical
> > advice to anyone via Usenet.
>
> You said I must say "Jesus is Lord" to your ear, not just affirm in
> writing, hence you are a sightwalker.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/90cd2abfb107a1b5?

Faith in GOD and His written Word (Romans 10:9) is not faith in you,
Jimmy.

Trust in GOD is not trusting others, like you, for there is a curse
from Him for the latter:

http://T3WiJ.com

Thus, this physician is a follower ( http://WDJW.net/Luke923 ) of GOD
and walks with Him, Who is sight unseen, in faith as did Enoch and
Elijah, who have not ever died, instead of walking with you who have
been cursed by Him:

"Jimmy's written prophecy that Rod will die will be applied to Jimmy
in a way that will be meaningful to all." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2fdccf898019a85?

Suggested additional reading:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3d568c9dd585bbd7?

**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e6c24d253fa7dc2d?

**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c2bf5b9bed04c7bc?

**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c2bf5b9bed04c7bc?

May GOD have mercy on your soul, Jimmy, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth.

Amen.

Don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 7/4/2013 3:17 AM, sightwalker with a ged said:
> parasite-infested Jimmy Alpha wrote:


sightwalker, how can anyone trust you or what you say when you tout your
diet with untruths about who are doing what with it?

sightwalker, you keep saying the above people endorse and are doing your
*QUACK* diet, yet fully one third of your endorsements has publicly
refuted your claim here in this group of following the "omar" plan. In a
post on 11/18/2011 at 2:17 PM. And I don't believe this is the first
time Rod has posted he was dieting and not omaring? Hence in light of
this account from Rod (11/18/2011 at 2:17 PM) the only ethical thing for
you to do is retract your assertion and admit it was over zealous folly
on your part. Not to do so could bring cancer or some other pox on
you/your family? Jno 5:14

If you'll lie about this little item how can anyone trust you with their
health?
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> Robert Preston wrote:
> > Robert Preston wrote:
> > > Jimmy_Alpha wrote:
> > >
> > > > It it meant for a years supply of food, along with a small glass of
> > > > beer. Do the math doc...
> > >
> > > Jimmy, I did the math on restaurant food and found out that;
> > >
> > > 2 lbs of food can contain up to:
> > > 3800 calories,
> > > 37 grams of saturated fat,
> > > 82 grams of carbohydrates
> > > and 1800 mg of sodium.
> >
> > Make that 2900 mg of sodium @ 32 oz
> >
> > And also add 36 grams of sugar.
> >
> > On the converse side, 32 oz of food can also add up to as little 450
> > calories per day.
>
> That gives a reasonable median of 2125 calories while showing how
> counting calories is meaningless compared to counting ounces.
> Moveover, the price we pay is indexed to the number of ounces of food
> irrespective of the estimated number of calories.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2a3ae0fc69aebeac?

liaM wrote:

> Hello Dr. Chung,
>
> What do you think of Dr. Ornish's and Dr. Barnard's analysises as to
> changes in lifestyle and diet being capable of reversing arteriosclerosis ?

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/30d8a6eb2f4b2661?

When it happens with "lifestyle changes" it happens because a person
has lost their visceral adiposity ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) by eating
the right amount, which is 32 ounces, of daily food irrespective of
the diet.

Suggested additional reading:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0c6e4e9a4f860064?

So don't be an Ayoob:

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Jason]

In article <56s6v8tk3qrrqoahg...@4ax.com>, "Andrew B. Chung,

Dr. Chung,
Your special diet may help people that have heart disease, diabetes or
heart failure to live a couple of more years but I have some bad news for
you. Those people that have heart disease, diabetes or heart failure will
all eventually die. Everyone will eventually die some day regardless of
their diets.

Jason

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

Jason wrote:

> Dr. Chung,
> Your special diet...

The http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach is http://WDJW.net/NotDiet

> ... may help people that have heart disease, diabetes or
> heart failure to live a couple of more years ...

It simply helps folks lose the causative http://WDJW.net/VAT

It's up to the LORD our GOD how long folks live after being cured of
their "heart disease, diabetes, or heart failure."

> but I have some bad news for
> you.

Your bad news is trumped by the Gospel (John 3:16) which is GOD's good
news :-)

> Those people that have heart disease, diabetes or heart failure will
> all eventually die.

Not if they stop sinning (John 5:14) before they die.

> Everyone will eventually die some day regardless of
> their diets.

Those who stop sinning (John 5:14) which includes stopping the dieting
(i.e. worrying about what they will eat) have the good news that they
have eternal life (John 3:16) right now (Luke 6:21a).

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others

globally --> http://GHHS2013.org ) are doing is the first step towards
stopping all sinning by first stopping **the** (Hebrews 12:1) "sin
that so easily entangles":

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

and

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?
**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055f2e7cf3c590ee?

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the

http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-27071...@66-53-210-138.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Why are you talking to the fraud who a mother followed and killed her
16-year old daughter?

Everyone else has him kill-filed.

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

an eternally accursed soul wrote:

> Jason wrote:
>
>> Dr. Chung,
>> Your special diet may help people that have heart disease, diabetes or
>> heart failure to live a couple of more years but I have some bad news for
>> you. Those people that have heart disease, diabetes or heart failure will
>> all eventually die. Everyone will eventually die some day regardless of
>> their diets.
>
> Why are you talking to the fraud who a mother followed and killed her
> 16-year old daughter?

http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc Andrew would not have an active medical
license were he a fraud.

Moreover, the jury has yet to convene about whether Evangelist Ebony
Berry killed her 16 yo daughter so she, as a follower of the LORD our
GOD, remains "innocent until proven guilty."

In the interim, may GOD continue to curse more than ever all like you
who judge (Matthew 7:1) Evangelist Berry, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth, Amen,

> Everyone else has him kill-filed.

Yet, another lie.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal by your compulsive lying that indeed He is
cursing you more than ever:

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

Bottom line concerning you:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0fbc3a51527114d2?

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-16B8D1...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

All Americans have freedom of speech--including Dr. Chung and myself.

[Free Lunch]

On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 12:18:42 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.atheism:

Freedom of speech does not give you the right to tell lies, particularly
lies that hurt others.

[Bob Officer]

On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 12:18:42 -0700, in misc.health.alternative,

And you likewise, have the right to make a fool of yourself, as you
just did.

PLONK!


--
Bob Officer
Carole Hubbard describes her difficulties in understanding:
"Yeah ok. Everybody keeps telling me to read this and that.
Hell I'm still trying to plough my way through
http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html "
Message-ID: <d4s9du$2kr8$1...@austarmetro.com.au>

[A.A...@heavenly.fathers.house]

On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 12:18:42 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

>> Why are you talking to the fraud who a mother followed and killed her
>> 16-year old daughter?
>>
>> Everyone else has him kill-filed.
>
>All Americans have freedom of speech--including Dr. Chung and myself.
>

Chung used his freedom of speech to talk a mother into ending the life
of her mentally challenged child. Chung is murderer.

If you support him and his so called rights then you are just as sick
as he is and should be kill filed as well.

[Jason]

In article <r7d8v8hed05ic7vdf...@4ax.com>,

I don't know anything about that case so will not comment.

[Virgil]

On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 12:18:42 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

>> Why are you talking to the fraud who a mother followed and killed her
>> 16-year old daughter?
>>
>> Everyone else has him kill-filed.
>
>All Americans have freedom of speech--including Dr. Chung and myself.

Americans, and everyone else, has the freedom to plonk.

I have long since plonked Chung, and now plonk you!
--

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-27071...@67-150-127-41.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

What the fuck is wrong with you. When did I say anything about his
freedom of speech.

Chung is committing fraud by calling himself an M.D., since he's lost
his medical license for his fraud, not to mention being responsible for
the death of a 16-year old.

Why would you choose to respond to someone this purely evil? That's all
I was trying to tell you, so why the fuck did you make that moronic
reply?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-27071...@67-150-121-95.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Why don't you know about the 16 year old he's responsible for killing?
It was all over the news.

Why is there SO much that you don't know. You're always claiming that
the "liberal media" isn't carrying this or that story, and are ALWAYS
proven wrong.

It's your conservative media that has been proven not to carry stories
that are important.

Markea Berry was a 16 year old special needs child who died of
starvation because her mother was following Chung's insane diet plan.
She weighed 40 (FORTY) pounds when she died; she was 16 and weighed 40
pounds.

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

an eternally condemned and accursed soul wrote:
>
> Markea Berry was a 16 year old special needs child who died of

> starvation...

If the latter were true, her autopsy would have taken less than a week
instead of having taken more than an year **and** the government would
allow her autopsy report to be made public since this would help their
case against Evangelist Ebony Berry whose other 4 surviving children
were reportedly normal weight along with herself holding to the right
amount of daily food.

Absolutely no one has and no one will ever die from starvation holding
to the right amount which is 32 oz of daily food.

May GOD continue to curse ever so severely to the Nth generation
anyone who publicly makes such false claims about starvation, in the
name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

> because her mother was following Chung's insane diet plan.

It is not insane to hold to the right amount, which is 32 oz of daily
food, thereby stopping the overeating (gluttony) without
undernoutishment (starvation). Only those like you, who are eternal
insane from GOD's eternal curse, would falsely think that the only way
to prevent gluttony is to starve.

> She weighed 40 (FORTY) pounds when she died; she was 16 and weighed
> 40 pounds.

It has been publicly confirmed that she was short in stature which is
not surprising for her being "special needs" with a history of also
being a runaway:

http://bit.ly/1bEd7Nb

Bottom line concerning you:

http://bit.ly/114DOYe

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-EEFE6E...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

And you don't even care about the 46 million abortions that have taken
place since the Roe vs. Wade supreme court decision.

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-9418E4...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

I don't know anything about that case so I won't comment. Could he get a
job on a cruise ship?

[duke]

What lies did he tell?

The dukester, American - American

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[duke]

On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 15:58:16 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>

You're purely evil. Everybody talks to you too.

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

HeartDoc Andrew <><

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://bit.ly/13DJm9H

which is the only **healthy** way to cure cardiovascular disease

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Lissing]

This is missing in your posts:

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

Susan wrote:
>
> Type 2 Diabetes Progresses Faster in Children
> In addition, complications are appearing faster and at what appear to be
> a more significant rate....
>
> The study included around 700 children between 10 and 17 years old with
> type 2 diabetes. Subjects had the disease for 8 months on average.
> Children under 10 were excluded because it is rare to see type 2
> diabetes in that demographic. All participants were overweight with a
> BMI above the 85th percentile.
>
> Children received diabetes education and were randomized to one of three
> groups. These groups were either being treated with metformin, metformin
> plus intensive lifestyle changes, or metformin plus rosiglitazone.
>
> The rate of deterioration of beta cell function in youth was almost four
> times higher than has been reported in adults, researchers found, noting
> a 20-35 percent decline in beta cell function per year on average,
> compared to 7-11 percent for adults (as reported in previous research).
> The study followed patients for four years and assessed the
> complications associated with diabetes. High blood pressure increased 22
> percent over the 4 year follow-up period. Additionally,
> microalbuminuria, an early sign of kidney disease, almost tripled from
> 6.3 percent to nearly 17 percent. Eye damage seemed to be similar in
> children and adults.
> Researchers found that LDL, triglycerides and other inflammatory markers
> all rose over 12 months and then stabilized over the next 24 months. The
> percentage of youth with LDL levels over 130 mg/dl and those needing to
> be placed on cholesterol-lowering medications once their levels exceeded
> 130 mg/dl rose from 4.5 percent of participants to 10.7 percent over 36
> months.
>
> Experts suspect that the age for kidney transplants will begin to drop.
> It is essential to push education about preventing diabetes and obesity
> through implementation of a healthy diet and physical activity.
>
> "The message here is that if you are going to treat youth with type 2
> diabetes effectively, it must be done early and aggressively targeting
> to improve beta cell function and insulin resistance. The development of
> type 2 diabetes among young individuals has significant public health
> consequences as these youth are likely to manifest the complications of
> diabetes, including retinopathy, nephropathy, neuropathy and
> cardiovascular disease, at a time that should be the most active and
> productive of their lives," concluded an accompanying commentary by
> Griffin P. Rodgers, MD, director of the National Institute of Diabetes
> and Digestive and Kidney Diseases, part of the National Institutes of
> Health, which funded the study, and NIDDK colleagues Barbara Linder, MD,
> PhD, senior advisor for childhood diabetes research; and Judith Fradkin,
> MD, director of the Division of Diabetes, Endocrinology and Metabolic
> Diseases of NIDDK.
> Diabetes May, 2013

Source:

http://bit.ly/15qDWAL

The absolutely only **healthy** way to save these children is by
having them hold to the right amount, which is 32 oz of daily food,
thereby stopping their overeating without undernourishment.

All who oppose this, like unhappy Oyster (aka Aribert Deckers), are
essentially guilty of their murder:

http://bit.ly/119TbZU

The blood of these 700 children in this study and countless other
children worldwide are on the hands of Mr. Deckers, who is technically
as evil as Adolph Hitler, who was also responsible for the deaths of
countless children albeit in the gas chambers of Germany during WWII.
It's not by chance (Proverbs 16:33) that Mr. Deckers is a German too.

Thus, with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Corinthians 13 **and** 1
Peter 3:8) http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc Andrew prays as follows:

May GOD have mercy on Aribert Decker's perishing soul, in the name of

Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Aribert Deckers (aka unHappy Oyster) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> > unHappy Oyster wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> >> >
> >> > Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
> >> > other heart disease patients:
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
> >>
> >> Why don't you bloody liar go to Ethiopia and tell your lies to **the people on the
> >> street** there?

**emphasis** added

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/919bac965960728f?

> >The homeless in Ethiopia do not as a general rule have either type-2
> >diabetes or sleep apnea.
>
> That is bullshit. I did not say anything about HOMELESS PEOPLE in Ethiopia!

See **emphasis** above.

Again, the homeless in Ethiopia do not as a general rule have either
type-2 diabetes or sleep apnea.

Now, why don't you start being hungrier (healthier) by eating the
right amount (32 oz/day) and give your excess to the homeless in
Ethiopia so that they too would become hungrier (healthier) and not
die from starvation?

Bottom line concerning you, Aribert:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/18b6cea52f0504a3?

Again, this physician prays for you as outlined per the amazing
Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation earlier:

May GOD save your perishing soul, Aribert, by softening your stony
(Ezekiel 11:19-20 & 36:26) heart so that you would be born again of
water and Spirit (John 3:3&5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus Christ of Nazareth -->
http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry really is wonderful as proven by five lines of evidence:

(1) Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
(2) Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
(3) Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
(4) Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
(5) Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what
they often call morbidly obese. He explained that morbid obesity
simply means that if something happened to me that could be
attiributed to weight and I were to end up in the not breathing state.
ok some call it DEAD that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural
causes related to weight more or less. Ive been told I was a chunky
fella a couple times, maybe even fat... but not quite that harshly.
Definitely made me think about a few things, as much as I dislike
scare tactics when it comes to health. Well in the midst of the shock
treatment, he also had me come to a heart wellness seminar that he
does on some Saturdays in Mableton. Nice little get together, he has
folks from the community come in and discuss Tai Chi, exercises,
testimonials, all kinds of good stuff. Then he shows the movie
SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD Omer approach that he has
his patients use to lose weight. In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH
you eat is more of the issue than WHAT you eat and portion is more
important than any fat content or calories. I agree with this. This
is why I have always been more successful on more liquid diets
(cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous)) than anything
else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

Don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[afflictionforgiven]

James 5:

14] Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and
let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord;
15] and the prayer of faith will save the sick man, and the Lord will raise
him up; and if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.
16] Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another,
that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has great power in
its effects.

May God bless and protect and heal that you might have peace at last.

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

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