Military guide to Iraq 'war' (sic)

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Feb 20, 2003, 12:12:27 PM2/20/03

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A lot of life's problems can be explained by the U.S. Military and its
applications of common sense....

1. "Sometimes I think war is God's way of teaching us geography." Paul
Rodriguez (Who the hell is he?)

2. "A slipping gear could let your M203 grenade launcher fire when you
least expect it. That would make you quite unpopular in what's left of your
unit" - Army's magazine of preventive maintenance.

3. "Aim towards the Enemy" - Instruction printed on US Rocket Launcher

4. When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend.(U.S. Marine
Corp.)

5. Cluster bombing from B-52s is very, very accurate. The bombs always
hit the ground.(U.S. Air Force.)

6. If the enemy is in range, so are you.(Infantry Journal.)

7. It is generally inadvisable to eject directly over the area you just
bombed.(U.S. Air Force Manual.)

8. Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never
encountered automatic weapons. (Gen. MacArthur.)

9. Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo.(Infantry Journal.)

10. You, you, and you . . . Panic. The rest of you, come with me.(U.S.
Marine Corp Gunnery Sgt.)

11. Tracers work both ways.(U.S. Army Ordnance.)

12. Five second fuses only last three seconds. (Infantry Journal.)

13. Don't ever be the first, don't ever be the last, and don't ever
volunteer to do anything. (U. S Navy Swabbie.)

14. Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid.(David
Hackworth.)

15. If your attack is going too well, you have walked into an
ambush.(Infantry Journal.)

16. No combat ready unit has ever passed inspection.(Joe Gay.)

17. Any ship can be a minesweeper . . . once.(Admiral Hornblower.)

18. Never tell the Platoon Sergeant you have nothing to do.(Unknown
Marine Recruit.)

19. Don't draw fire; it irritates the people around you.(Your Buddies.)

20. Mines are equal opportunity weapons.(Saddam Hussein.)

21. If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission
properly.(David Hackworth.)

Feel free to add your own.

PV

Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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Feb 20, 2003, 6:43:45 PM2/20/03

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In article <8k2a5vkdg01kvg31l...@4ax.com>, A Planet
Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:

> A lot of life's problems can be explained by the U.S. Military and its
> applications of common sense....

Many of them appear in "Murphy's Laws of Combat", although I note a few
new ones amongst those that you've provided.

Needed a laugh this morning. Stabbing pain in back due (probably) to
incorrect seating at work is causing extreme grumpiness.

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> le Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:43:45 GMT, dans l'article
> <jonathan-BBE2F6...@newsroom.utas.edu.au>, Mr Q. Z. Diablo
> <jona...@zeouane.org.remove.this.it.is.bollocks> a dit ...
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> { snip }

>
> > Needed a laugh this morning. Stabbing pain in back due (probably) to
>

> masturbating too much over photopraphs of scantily clad goth women.
>
> Check your e-mail ... that ought to cure you. ;-)

Not quite safe for work. Ahem.

Cerberus

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> In article <8k2a5vkdg01kvg31l...@4ax.com>, A Planet
> Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
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> > A lot of life's problems can be explained by the U.S. Military and its
> > applications of common sense....
>
> Many of them appear in "Murphy's Laws of Combat", although I note a few
> new ones amongst those that you've provided.
>
> Needed a laugh this morning. Stabbing pain in back due (probably) to
> incorrect seating at work is causing extreme grumpiness.

And then again it might just be THAT time of the month.

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>Subject: Re: Military guide to Iraq 'war' (sic)
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:48:59 +0000

>
>le Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:43:45 GMT, dans l'article

><jonathan-BBE2F6...@newsroom.utas.edu.au>, Mr Q. Z. Diablo
><jona...@zeouane.org.remove.this.it.is.bollocks> a dit ...
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>{ snip }

>
>> Needed a laugh this morning. Stabbing pain in back due (probably) to
>

>masturbating too much over photopraphs of scantily clad goth women.
>
>Check your e-mail ... that ought to cure you. ;-)
>

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>>> Check your e-mail ... that ought to cure you. ;-)
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>> Not quite safe for work. Ahem.
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>Which is why I encrypted it. :-P

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>{ snip }

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>> 5. Cluster bombing from B-52s is very, very accurate. The bombs always
>> hit the ground.(U.S. Air Force.)
>

>LOL, I like that one !
>
>{ snip remainder }
>
>You're ... sorry, 'your' (sic) coming along in leaps and bounds, FW.
>Thrashed by everyone having an IQ above 4 (i.e. except Timmy Drake and
>Neilie), you've decided to cut your losses, avoid trying to debate anyone
>who can defeat you without breaking into a sweat (i.e. everyone except
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>that you found on 'the net', =E0 la Jigsaw, and which everyone who's not =
>a
>mouth breather (i.e. everyone except Timmy Drake and Neilie) will
>understand.
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>I see real progress in coming to terms with your crippling limitations.
>The almost savage punishments meted out by me, 'JPB', dirt, and in fact
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> "Mr Q. Z. Diablo" <jona...@zeouane.org.remove.this.it.is.bollocks> wrote

> > Needed a laugh this morning. Stabbing pain in back due (probably) to

> > incorrect seating at work is causing extreme grumpiness.
>
> And then again it might just be THAT time of the month.

It's _always_ that time of the month for me, Cerberus.

Cerberus

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> > le Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:43:45 GMT, dans l'article
> > <jonathan-BBE2F6...@newsroom.utas.edu.au>, Mr Q. Z. Diablo
> > <jona...@zeouane.org.remove.this.it.is.bollocks> a dit ...
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> >
> > > Needed a laugh this morning. Stabbing pain in back due (probably) to
> >
> > masturbating too much over photopraphs of scantily clad goth women.
> >
> > Check your e-mail ... that ought to cure you. ;-)
>
> Not quite safe for work. Ahem.

Any chance you have an email address that works?

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On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:27:56 +0000, Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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>le Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:12:27 GMT, dans l'article <8k2a5vkdg01kvg31l...@4ax.com>, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }

>
>> 5. Cluster bombing from B-52s is very, very accurate. The bombs always
>> hit the ground.(U.S. Air Force.)
>

>LOL, I like that one !
>
>{ snip remainder }
>
>You're ... sorry, 'your' (sic) coming along in leaps and bounds, FW.
>Thrashed by everyone having an IQ above 4 (i.e. except Timmy Drake and
>Neilie), you've decided to cut your losses, avoid trying to debate anyone
>who can defeat you without breaking into a sweat (i.e. everyone except
>Timmy Drake and Neilie), and just post witty little plagiarised passages

>that you found on 'the net', à la Jigsaw, and which everyone who's not a

>mouth breather (i.e. everyone except Timmy Drake and Neilie) will
>understand.
>
>I see real progress in coming to terms with your crippling limitations.
>The almost savage punishments meted out by me, 'JPB', dirt, and in fact

>everyone capable of stringing two words together without using a dictionary
>(i.e. everyone except Timmy Drake and Neilie), has had a beneficial effect.
>
Little desi... drunk again...the liquor store owner knows him by his first name. :-(
Too bad that little desi has made a great number of stupid comments in his
presence here... only a few of them being ---

My paying a tribute to Mamie Tilll Mobley required him to remark --
"FuckWit and his deathie scum buddies have just spent a fortune on
champagne... :-("
For which reasonable Donna called him out of line :-( [1] --

My paying tribute to the life and legacy of Martin Luther King, Jr., brought
forth his racist reply of calling it "a perverse joke" to even offer such a tribute.
And calling anyone who would provide such a tribute to MLK "a disgusting
laughable prick," and a "_fucking, disgusting_ lowlife." Typical that a racist
would find a tribute to MLK _disturbing to his white-power sensitivities_.
See [2]

Confusing Hemingway with John Donne. [3]

Believing there are only six continents.[4]

Not knowing the difference between 'imports' and 'exports' [5]

Claiming the Jews are engaged in 'butchery' [6]

Admitting to being too 'lazy' to do anything other than a 'fuzzy logic' check to
find the 'correct' spelling of Tourette's Syndrome.[7]

Ignorant of Apate - the Greek goddess of deceit [8]

Ignorant of the meaning of eisoptrophobia.[9]

Claiming Judge Zobel was not empowered to 'overturn' the verdict.
Then having to admit he was mistaken. [10]

Too ignorant to apologize for making an ass of himself in insults about
Judge Zobel's powers Saying "No apology was necessry, as I was
arguing in good faith." After admitting he was mistaken [11]

Confused an 'appeal petition' by the prosecution with a ruling
from the State Supreme Court [12]

Argued against 'the doctrine of punishment' for criminals [13]

Claimed that released murderers are less likely to murder again
than persons who have never murdered before.[14]

Claimed that 'it is not necessary to prove that the DP does not deter'
for it to be true. [15]

Claimed that 'the dead cannot be honored' [16]

Made at least 26 distinct racist comment. References to exact
quotes can be found in . [17]

Claimed that Lockerbie was caused by 'clear air turbulence' [18]

Claimed the Balkans are not in Europe [19]

Claimed that in matters of morals, Europe has led the world for over
2000 years? [20]

Claimed that 'quote' is not a noun [21]

*giggled* about an Italy cablecar accident that killed humans [22]

*giggled* about a U.S. air accident off the coast of California that killed
humans [23]

Claimed that 'America' and the 'United States' are not synonyms [24]

Claimed that 'none' of the terrorists in the WTC attack knew they were
about to commit suicide. [25]

Claimed that mathematics and logic are not languages [26]

Claimed he would 'gamble' on the lives of potential innocent victims of
murder [27]

Took the words of a MURDERER, and implied that I WAS THAT
MURDERER. [28]

Believes that calling another a 'fuckwit' represents 'articulate abolition' [29]

Had a reasonable abolitionist, state that "Desmond, you goofed on this one" [30]
in response to his disgustingly disrespectful comment concerning that Mother,
Mamie Till Mobley... who had lost her child to murder (it seems Mothers
who lose their sons to murder gain little respect from him -- while their
murderers are elevated to 'victims').

Been referred to as "a Fucking Prick," by a reasonable abolitionist [31]

Had his posts called "objectionable and ludicrous" by another reasonable
abolitionist [32]

Had his posts referred to as "hyperbole" by YET ANOTHER reasonable
abolitionist [33]

Had a reasonable abolitionist state that his posts did "Enormous damage
to the Abolitionist Cause." (thus running out of ALL reasonable abolitionists
in this newsgroup) [34]

Claimed the existence of some fantasy called the "Universal Right to Life,"
but presumed it came from some mysterious ether of neither man nor God. [35]

Claimed that women have something called "Supreme Sovereignty" over their
bodies, which would permit them to go into a doctor and DEMAND that the
fetus they are carrying be amputated from their bodies, just as they might
also DEMAND that their viable right arm be amputated [36]

Provided many a *giggle* for himself when using the term 9-11. Essentially
spitting on the graves of 3,000 murder victims.[37]

Compared abolitionists to the domestic cat, and retentionists to the sparrow.
Suggesting the abolitionist/domestic cat - torture and kill the retentionist/sparrow
[38]

Argued impotently that France had unlimited "Freedom of Expression."
[39]

Has a definite _flat learning curve_. Remains a pedant, yet unable to spell
"occurrence" a total of 15 times here. In each case not a typo but ALWAYS
misspelling it "occurence" (sic) For the list -- [40]

AND STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS --

PV

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> My paying tribute to the life and legacy of Martin Luther King, Jr., brought
> forth his racist reply of calling it "a perverse joke" to even offer such a tribute.
> And calling anyone who would provide such a tribute to MLK "a disgusting
> laughable prick," and a "_fucking, disgusting_ lowlife."

PV, your lies are just getting worse and worse, and are now so blatant
that even I am surprised. Does your dishonesty know no bounds? I have
read the post you refer to and NOWHERE does Desmond say that about
"anyone" offering a tribute. He was attacking you and only you, and
you are trying to turn that into an attack on "anyone" who pays a
tribute to MLK.

I can only imagine that when you post this sort of stuff, you sit
there hoping that nobody will follow it through to check your claims,
and will, instead, just take your word for it. Just how stupid do you
think people are?

Cerberus

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> >> <"\"<jonathan\""@zeouane.org>: host zeouane.org said: 550 5.1.1
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> >>
> >> Desi has cut your service because you havn't paid, hasn't he
>

> > heh ... no, that will have been the other day, when DNS was being
> > transferred from my old registrar. Try again ...
> >
> > > zeouane.org
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> Oi, hang on, I just read your post more closely ...
>
> jonathan"@zeouane.org
>
> What is that double quotation mark doing there ??

Yeah, don't worry. Just me being a dickhead again. All sorted now.

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>Subject: Re: Military guide to Iraq 'war' (sic)
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:23:32 +0000
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>le Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:09:42 +0800, dans l'article
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>dit ...
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>>
>> Desi has cut your service because you havn't paid, hasn't he
>
>heh ... no, that will have been the other day, when DNS was being
>transferred from my old registrar. Try again ...
>
> > zeouane.org
> Server: 193.252.19.4
> Address: 193.252.19.4#53
>
> Non-authoritative answer:
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> Address: 212.198.68.117
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In article <clphi-...@zeouane.org>, Desmond Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: Military guide to Iraq 'war' (sic)
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:28:28 +0000
>
>le Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:23:32 +0000, dans l'article

><4cphi-...@zeouane.org>, Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>a dit ...
>
>>> <"\"<jonathan\""@zeouane.org>: host zeouane.org said: 550 5.1.1
>>> <"<jonathan"@zeouane.org>... User unknown
>>>
>>> Desi has cut your service because you havn't paid, hasn't he
>
>> heh ... no, that will have been the other day, when DNS was being
>> transferred from my old registrar. Try again ...
>>
>> > zeouane.org
>> Server: 193.252.19.4
>> Address: 193.252.19.4#53
>>
>> Non-authoritative answer:
>> Name: zeouane.org
>> Address: 212.198.68.117
>

>Oi, hang on, I just read your post more closely ...
>
>jonathan"@zeouane.org
>
>What is that double quotation mark doing there ??
>

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On 21 Feb 2003 17:54:40 -0800, unimpre...@yahoo.com (Just passing by) wrote:

>A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message news:<lrab5vov7fmh6vbfq...@4ax.com>...
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>>
>> My paying tribute to the life and legacy of Martin Luther King, Jr., brought
>> forth his racist reply of calling it "a perverse joke" to even offer such a tribute.
>> And calling anyone who would provide such a tribute to MLK "a disgusting
>> laughable prick," and a "_fucking, disgusting_ lowlife."
>
>
>PV, your lies are just getting worse and worse, and are now so blatant
>that even I am surprised. Does your dishonesty know no bounds? I have
>read the post you refer to and NOWHERE does Desmond say that about
>"anyone" offering a tribute. He was attacking you and only you, and
>you are trying to turn that into an attack on "anyone" who pays a
>tribute to MLK.
>

Umm... sportfan... I... meaning ME..... _I_ was the ONLY one paying the
tribute. By attacking ME... he was attacking ANYONE who would
provide that tribute. But let's get YOUR opinion here. _I_ provided
that tribute... you agree with desi that ANYONE who provided that
tribute is as desi described that person. What does that make you?
Suppose I had posted that tribute, using a different handle... would it
have no longer been ME? The fact that desi reacted so violently was
because he is a racist... pure and simple. 99 and 44 one-hundredth
percent pure racist. While that 54 one-hundredth just _doesn't like
'em in the neighborhood_.

>I can only imagine that when you post this sort of stuff, you sit
>there hoping that nobody will follow it through to check your claims,
>and will, instead, just take your word for it. Just how stupid do you
>think people are?

Well... we know that you've plumbed the bottom. How is it down there?

PV

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On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:09:42 +0800, "Cerberus"
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> <"<jonathan"@zeouane.org>... User unknown

My god. You are truely [sic] a bit of a retard, aren't you, 'Cerby'?

w00f

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>And then again it might just be THAT time of the month.

Cerby, erm, I don't know how to break this to you (and maybe you
consider me a little pendantic [sic] for doing so), but QZD is a
little boy. A little boy has a willy, and not a foo-foo.

Hence, little boys do _not_ bleed out of their cunts once a month.

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On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 03:15:22 +0000, Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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>le 21 Feb 2003 17:54:40 -0800, dans l'article <21b1da28.03022...@posting.google.com>, Just passing by <unimpre...@yahoo.com> a dit ...

>
>>> My paying tribute to the life and legacy of Martin Luther King, Jr.,
>>> brought forth his racist reply of calling it "a perverse joke" to even
>>> offer such a tribute. And calling anyone who would provide such a
>>> tribute to MLK "a disgusting laughable prick," and a "_fucking,
>>> disgusting_ lowlife."
>
>> PV, your lies are just getting worse and worse, and are now so blatant
>> that even I am surprised. Does your dishonesty know no bounds? I have
>> read the post you refer to and NOWHERE does Desmond say that about
>> "anyone" offering a tribute.
>

>FuckWit probably reckons that he has nothing to lose, having been crushed
>by every poster, in every thread where he dares to tread.
>
Considering that you've just learned a sock can be used as toilet paper, your
observations are just as shitty.

>Here are my exact words, as appeared in my response to FuckWit's pathetic
>'tribute' ...
>
> 'Normally, the whole of news:alt.activism.death-penalty considers you a
> perverse joke. In the main, your "purpose" on this newsgroup is to
> make us all feel good at being normal, and especially, at not being
> _you. You make us laugh, but unfortunately for you, we don't laugh
> _with_ you, but _at_ you. You're recognised as the most inefficient,
> most inept, least educated, most unsophisticated, most violent, least
> honest, most sexually depraved poster that is currently posting to this
> newsgroup.
>
> In short, you're a disgusting, laughable prick.
>
Of course... someone who provides a tribute to Martin Luther King Jr., on
a day which honors and observes his contributions to civil rights... MUST be
a "disgusting, laughable prick," TO YOU. That certainly says more about
YOU than it could ever say about ME!!!!

> However, that being so (and no one would even contemplate stating the
> opposite), this thread will make no one laugh. That the repulsive
> moron who believes that all Germans are stupid, who will never trust an
> Arab, who believes that study after study showing inherent racial bias
> in the administration of the death penalty in the United States, only
> shows that it is "pro-black", who does not hesitate to call a German
> "Adolph", who exhibits rampant homophobia in almost every post, who
> believes that "anti-Semitic" can only refer to the Jew and not to the
> other half-dozen or so Semitic races, who mouths platitudes against a
> woman's right to choose who uses her body, that such an example of
> sheer, _blinding_, proactive stupidity, should seek to hijack the day
> when his own kind cut down a brave young man in the prime of his life
> ... is beyond the pale.

A demonstration from you of your obvious rage against someone having the _audacity_
to presume to honor MLK. Essentially telling me to _shut up about civil rights_, as
they aren't really of any concern_.

> Martin Luther King Day is not for your kind, Scum.

Oh, but it IS. It was certainly demonstrated that it is NOT for YOUR kind,
you racist swine. You made that very clear.

> If it were not for
> you, there would be no Martin Luther King Day, for the man himself
> would not have been killed. _You_ bear his blood on your hands. As
> long as your kind exist, then the black will forever be excluded,
> forever the victim, forever a "second class citizen".
>
Actually, that' EXACTLY where you would try to KEEP Blacks..

> You _fucking disgusting_ lowlife.'
>
Yes... you certainly are.
> (Message-ID:27eh0b....@lievre.voute.net)
>
And this was my reply to your filthy, lewd, perverted insult to the memory
of MLK --

"<clip the most perverse, disgusting comment that desi has ever provided
to this newsgroup. Beating out even his *giggle* at the death of Mamie
Till Mobley. He finds the assassination of MLK to be a subject of ridicule.
Little wonder so many have seen him as mentally unhinged>

As we appreciate the comments of David Irving, who proves that anti-Semitism
is alive still today... we appreciate your same form of contribution here, which
proves that racism is alive still today. As you demonstrate vividly what a
truly racist swine you actually are. I would not contaminate this thread
repeating the disgusting contributions you have made to racism. But they
have been many.

God help you. God help all such as you. God protect others FROM you.
And God protect others from others like you. You can now return to
praying for escaped murderers."

Yes... God help humanity from those who think as YOU DO!!! When I
first read your insane rage against MLK, in your reply, I stood agasp at
the hate it had generated in you against Blacks and civil rights. Rather
than try and EXCUSE that evil behavior of yours... you SHOULD
apologize to the entire group. But we know you will claim that your
rage against Blacks in your reply does not require an _apology_. Perhaps
feeling in this case the same as you said on another day, in another
thread --- "No apology was necessry, as I was arguing in good faith."
Apparently you believe it is _good faith_ to insult the memory and the
works of MLK.

>The 'rational mind' to which FuckWit referred earlier today, will have no
>problem discerning that as you say, I was not referring to 'anyone' who
>would post a tribute to Martin Luther King, but to FW alone. His words ...
>
Since I was the ONLY person who recognized him that day in this group, in
respect to originating that tribute (25 separate NEW threads were generated
on 20 Jan in this group, and ONLY my NEW thread mentioned the fact of
what special day it was), AND you were the only one who provided a hateful
comment in return in that thread ("MLK day"); the obvious implication is that your
vile, repulsive, insulting, degrading message to ALL BLACKS, would have been
generated by you REGARDLESS of who provided that tribute. I just happened to
be _available_ for you to vent your rage against Blacks. You are, in fact, the
WORST FORM of a racist... hiding behind a facade that claims you are
not... but capable of the most brutish, despicable, villainous, loathsome and
immoral comments imaginable. SPECIFICALLY TARGETING BLACKS.
All raging against Blacks... and all trying to hide behind that phony facade.
The facade that any reasonable person can see through as easily as that last
veil on a stripper. And your pathetic whine to Donna's comment is also seen
as a demonstration of that same facade. Since you wrote to her -- "I agree,
Donna, and that someone whose very _raison d'=EAtre_ on AADP is =
to espouse violent death" But the fact is --- YOU espouse violent death in
your support for MURDERERS... since THAT is "violent death."

> 'And calling anyone who would provide such a tribute to MLK "a
> disgusting laughable prick," and a "_fucking, disgusting_ lowlife."'
>
>... can now be seen as pure, unadulterated dishonesty.
>
Try looking in the mirror, sport. In that particular thread, your hate for BLACKS
came through a lot more clearly than any EXCUSE you would offer that it was
hate for me, that generated your sordid, swinish, contaminated insults to blacks.
You MUST apologize to the collective group membership, or YOU are seen as
the racist... not me.

>{ snip }
>
>--
>Ayatollah desi

See: ---- The Wizard that is desi ----- picture and comment which follows --
url:http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/sparrow.jpg
The Wizard's words --
"I engage in 'abuse' of deathies as a matter of course. That's what they're
there for. `echo $DEITY` gave them to us, much as She gave sparrows to
the domestic cat. They're our playthings. They have no relevance in the
real world, except to remind us of the dark side to human nature, that can
exist in all of us. They're like child rapists. Nazis. Torturers of small animals.
All this pretence of 'let's be civil to one another' is nauseating. How can
you be 'civil' to garbage ?"

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> On 21 Feb 2003 17:54:40 -0800, unimpre...@yahoo.com (Just passing by) wrote:
>
> >A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message news:<lrab5vov7fmh6vbfq...@4ax.com>...
> >
> >>
> >> My paying tribute to the life and legacy of Martin Luther King, Jr., brought
> >> forth his racist reply of calling it "a perverse joke" to even offer such a tribute.
> >> And calling anyone who would provide such a tribute to MLK "a disgusting
> >> laughable prick," and a "_fucking, disgusting_ lowlife."
> >
> >
> >PV, your lies are just getting worse and worse, and are now so blatant
> >that even I am surprised. Does your dishonesty know no bounds? I have
> >read the post you refer to and NOWHERE does Desmond say that about
> >"anyone" offering a tribute. He was attacking you and only you, and
> >you are trying to turn that into an attack on "anyone" who pays a
> >tribute to MLK.
> >
> Umm... sportfan... I... meaning ME..... _I_ was the ONLY one paying the
> tribute. By attacking ME... he was attacking ANYONE who would
> provide that tribute. But let's get YOUR opinion here. _I_ provided
> that tribute... you agree with desi that ANYONE who provided that
> tribute is as desi described that person. What does that make you?
> Suppose I had posted that tribute, using a different handle... would it
> have no longer been ME? The fact that desi reacted so violently was
> because he is a racist... pure and simple. 99 and 44 one-hundredth
> percent pure racist. While that 54 one-hundredth just _doesn't like
> 'em in the neighborhood_.

And you really believe that totally meaningless gibberish is going to
clear you on this one, do you? Forget it, PV. You are 100% buried.
That is now all that needs saying.

Dolly Coughlan Jr

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In article <jbdki-...@zeouane.org>, Desmond Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: Military guide to Iraq 'war' (sic)
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:16:51 +0000
>
>le Fri, 21 Feb 2003 06:32:05 GMT, dans l'article <lrab5vov7fmh6vbfqijo8ll=
>ejqsl...@4ax.com>, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...=20

>
>>>You're ... sorry, 'your' (sic) coming along in leaps and bounds, FW.
>>>Thrashed by everyone having an IQ above 4 (i.e. except Timmy Drake and

>>>Neilie), you've decided to cut your losses, avoid trying to debate anyo=

>ne
>>>who can defeat you without breaking into a sweat (i.e. everyone except

>>>Timmy Drake and Neilie), and just post witty little plagiarised passage=
>s
>>>that you found on 'the net', =E0 la Jigsaw, and which everyone who's no=

>t a
>>>mouth breather (i.e. everyone except Timmy Drake and Neilie) will
>>>understand.
>>>
>>>I see real progress in coming to terms with your crippling limitations.
>>>The almost savage punishments meted out by me, 'JPB', dirt, and in fact
>>>everyone capable of stringing two words together without using a
>>>dictionary (i.e. everyone except Timmy Drake and Neilie), has had a

>>>beneficial effect.=20=20
>
>> Little desi... drunk again...
>
>More 'Scooter-Boy' [1] debate, FuckWit.=20=20

>
>> the liquor store owner knows him by his first name. :-(
>

>We don't have 'liquor stores' (sic) in civilisation, FW. Our shopping is
>done at the Auchan in the 'Quatre Saisons' shopping centre under the Parv=
>is
>de la D=E9fense. Hardly conducive to knowing the name of the people who =
>work
>there.
>
>> Too bad that little desi has made a great number of stupid comments in =

>his
>> presence here... only a few of them being ---

>>=20

>> My paying a tribute to Mamie Tilll Mobley required him to remark --
>> "FuckWit and his deathie scum buddies have just spent a fortune on
>> champagne... :-("
>> For which reasonable Donna called him out of line :-( [1] --
>

>Poor FuckWit, claiming that he 'doesn't care' what others think, yet
>spending most of his time here, trying to get others to 'condemn' 'desi'
>(sic). Ha, ha, ha ...=20
>
>> My paying tribute to the life and legacy of Martin Luther King, Jr., br=
>ought
>> forth his racist reply of calling it "a perverse joke" to even offer su=
>ch a tribute.
>> And calling anyone who would provide such a tribute to MLK "a disgustin=
>g
>> laughable prick," and a "_fucking, disgusting_ lowlife." Typical that=
> a racist
>> would find a tribute to MLK _disturbing to his white-power sensitivitie=
>s_.
>> See [2]
>
>Poor, sad, demented, mentally ill FuckWit. 'And calling anyone' ...
>thrashed into near oblivion by me and 'JPB' concerning his ridiculous ide=
>a
>that calling _him_ a racist scumbag, means that I'm calling _everyone_ on=
>e.
>LOL !!! Perhaps FW believes that when I refer to him as 'FuckWit', I'm i=
>n
>fact calling the whole world 'FuckWit'. Maybe he thinks that when he cal=
>ls
>me a racist, he's calling the whole world 'racist'. ROTFLMAO !!

>
>> Confusing Hemingway with John Donne. [3]
>

>Damn, that's gratitude for you, eh ? I 'dumb down' my response to FW,
>just as everyone does, and that's the thanks I get.=20
>
>{ snip remainder of 'quotes' (sic) that I never made and which FW claims =
>I
> did, 'quotes' (sic) that I did make, and that FW claims I didn't, and
> 'quotes' (sic) that show that FW doesn't know how to 'quotation' (sic)
> without lying }
>
>[1] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/scooter-boy.jpg=20=20
>
>--=20

>Desmond Coughlan |desmond @ zeouane . org

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Thank God that I have never been so angry at losing an argument (which
I readily admit having done a few times in the past), that I would take the
side of a proven racist, because of my rage over having lost that argument.
But this is what we see from JPB. Rather than condemn the words of such
a proven racist... he has instead decided to climb right beside the racist,
_desi the deil_, into the cold depths of that pit of racism, which has been man's
greatest shame. All because of a battle lost in another war, on another
day.

What a sorry sight to see him climb into that sickening pit of evil calumny
along with desi. Like two old men, chained to that yoke of ignorance and
hypocrisy which has been the ruination of man since the difference in facial
appearance of other men was first observed. Two vicious old men...alike
in leering bearing and stooped posture. The one, obviously rubbing his hands
together with a malevolent smirk on his face as he offers his racist slurs,
showing a side to himself which is as cankered as man can be to his fellow
man... the other shuffling along beside him... vigorously nodding his head in the
affirmative at every evil word the other mutters.

One wonders... if there is a God... why no thunderclaps and windstorms,
no driving pellets of hail and brimstone, and no upheavals of the earth are brought
down on desi? Why doesn't the will of God descend in virtue to silence his
wicked crimes against man and nature? And why has he found a henchman to
play on a satyr flute that his words are not cancerous and baneful? Plainly,
Satan has shown his malefic form here in _desi the deil_.... and just as plainly
JPB has simply become his emotionally stunted and misshapen, goblin follower.
Frankly, they both demonstrate that evil is a disease of mankind that will not be
easily eradicated.

PV

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On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:16:51 +0000, Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
wrote:

>le Fri, 21 Feb 2003 06:32:05 GMT, dans l'article <lrab5vov7fmh6vbfq...@4ax.com>, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...

>
>>>You're ... sorry, 'your' (sic) coming along in leaps and bounds, FW.
>>>Thrashed by everyone having an IQ above 4 (i.e. except Timmy Drake and
>>>Neilie), you've decided to cut your losses, avoid trying to debate anyone
>>>who can defeat you without breaking into a sweat (i.e. everyone except
>>>Timmy Drake and Neilie), and just post witty little plagiarised passages
>>>that you found on 'the net', à la Jigsaw, and which everyone who's not a
>>>mouth breather (i.e. everyone except Timmy Drake and Neilie) will
>>>understand.
>>>
>>>I see real progress in coming to terms with your crippling limitations.
>>>The almost savage punishments meted out by me, 'JPB', dirt, and in fact
>>>everyone capable of stringing two words together without using a
>>>dictionary (i.e. everyone except Timmy Drake and Neilie), has had a
>>>beneficial effect.
>

>> Little desi... drunk again...
>
>More 'Scooter-Boy' [1] debate, FuckWit.
>

Read YOUR comment, bubblehead. And you'll see that it was hardly
POSSIBLE you could have been sober when posting it.

>> the liquor store owner knows him by his first name. :-(
>

>We don't have 'liquor stores' (sic) in civilisation, FW. Our shopping is

>done at the Auchan in the 'Quatre Saisons' shopping centre under the Parvis
>de la Défense. Hardly conducive to knowing the name of the people who work
>there.
>
ROTFLMAO... How pathetic an _explanation_. Do you REALLY think
ANYONE CARES where you do your shopping? The only time anyone
cared was when they caught you shoplifting toilet paper. When will you ever
learn not to be so incredibly stupid?

>> Too bad that little desi has made a great number of stupid comments in his
>> presence here... only a few of them being ---
>>
>> My paying a tribute to Mamie Tilll Mobley required him to remark --
>> "FuckWit and his deathie scum buddies have just spent a fortune on
>> champagne... :-("

>> For which reasonable Donna called him out of line :-( [2] --

>
>Poor FuckWit, claiming that he 'doesn't care' what others think, yet
>spending most of his time here, trying to get others to 'condemn' 'desi'
>(sic). Ha, ha, ha ...
>

Just to give you some info, desi...when you start off your comment
with "Poor FuckWit," it sets up a pattern to the words you will
offer that follow. It's crystal-clear that it will be followed by
something more incredibly stupid than anyone can imagine. And
it's all _down-hill_ for _logic_ or _articulate_ output from
you from that point on.

Now understand this -- I don't care if they do or they don't... as
long as __I___ realize that ___I___ DO. I have an obligation
to MY OWN MORALITY, and no one else. You are the one so
concerned with what others think, desi. I simply show them
what I see as your racism (and use your EXACT words - unlike
putting different slants on them, as YOU DO), which fills MY
obligation to myself. You're a BIG crybaby, desi. And you are
very concerned with the fact I'm exposing all of your smarmy
racism, and disgusting sophistry. Exposing the narcissism of
your belief in your Imperial presence here, and the accompanying
persecution complex you have, when you claim there were all
those "others who sought to force me off the group."

No one is out to _get you_, desi. Least of all any retentionist. Since
you've become the retentionists' _best weapon_.

>> My paying tribute to the life and legacy of Martin Luther King, Jr., brought
>> forth his racist reply of calling it "a perverse joke" to even offer such a tribute.
>> And calling anyone who would provide such a tribute to MLK "a disgusting
>> laughable prick," and a "_fucking, disgusting_ lowlife." Typical that a racist
>> would find a tribute to MLK _disturbing to his white-power sensitivities_.

>> See [3]

>
>Poor, sad, demented, mentally ill FuckWit. 'And calling anyone' ...

>thrashed into near oblivion by me and 'JPB' concerning his ridiculous idea
>that calling _him_ a racist scumbag, means that I'm calling _everyone_ one.
>LOL !!!

You are calling ANYONE who offered the tribute to MLK those vile
racist names. As I was the ONLY one who did so, it was simple that
your racist rage would be focused on me. You needed to focus it
on ANYONE who might be so bold as to provide such a tribute.

> Perhaps FW believes that when I refer to him as 'FuckWit', I'm in
>fact calling the whole world 'FuckWit'. Maybe he thinks that when he calls

>me a racist, he's calling the whole world 'racist'. ROTFLMAO !!
>

Rubbish... you are simply calling someone who offered a tribute to
MLK a racist. Doing so, make YOU a racist, since you are STATING
that you oppose someone posting what MLK stood for.

Or are you calling EVERY retentionist a racist??

>> Confusing Hemingway with John Donne. [4]

>
>Damn, that's gratitude for you, eh ? I 'dumb down' my response to FW,
>just as everyone does, and that's the thanks I get.
>

You mean... making an ignorant ass of yourself? Gee... you don't need me
for that. You do it with just about everybody.
Lemme guess -- you LOVE (sic) Courteline !!

>{ snip remainder of 'quotes' (sic) that I never made and which FW claims I

> did, 'quotes' (sic) that I did make, and that FW claims I didn't, and
> 'quotes' (sic) that show that FW doesn't know how to 'quotation' (sic)
> without lying }
>

We all can see you are scrambling desperately to hide from what you
cannot hide from. Why not simply admit you are a racist? Since your
words have already betrayed you.

>[1] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/scooter-boy.jpg

[2]
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3e1dadeb%240%2426063%2479c14f64%40nan-newsreader-03.noos.net
[3]
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030120212929.19751.00000260%40mb-cu.aol.com
[4]
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20021122212903.25792.00001869%40mb-fc.aol.com

PV

>--
>Ayatollah desi

Another choice comment from desi, that I will be reminding him of --

"I would rather see the extinction of the human race, than allow one innocent to
be put to death by the state." See --
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=87wvtkfeg2.fsf%40lievre.coughlan.fr

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That tactic doesn't work anymore, PV. In fact NO tactic, and NO words
you can write here can achieve your aim, which is to obscure the
exposure of your lies about Desmond and his MLK posting. From now on,
anyone wishing to swat you like a fly no longer has to spend time
typing out long, detailed messages. Instead they simply have to either
repost Desmond's "FW The Lying Slimeball" post or provide a link to
it.

And here is another link that explains why you and your lies need
never again be a problem for any poster here.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.03022...@posting.google.com

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Dolly Coughlan Jr

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In article <ppcni-...@zeouane.org>, Desmond Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: Military guide to Iraq 'war' (sic)
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 17:25:45 +0000
>
>le 23 Feb 2003 06:55:58 -0800, dans l'article

><21b1da28.03022...@posting.google.com>, Just passing by
><unimpre...@yahoo.com> a dit ...
>

>> That tactic doesn't work anymore, PV.
>

>{ snip remainder of 'JPB's sincere and heartfelt plea for FW to stop making
> an idiot of himself, as all of news:alt.activism.death-penalty has seen,
> read, and recognised that I did _not_ state that 'anyone' who would post
> a tribute to Martin Luther King, is a 'disgusting, laughable prick', but
> that in fact I was directing those words at FW }
>
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Dolly Coughlan Jr, the legend continues!

As Desi lies, the archive grows!

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On 23 Feb 2003 06:55:58 -0800, unimpre...@yahoo.com (Just passing by) wrote:

>That tactic doesn't work anymore, PV.

Then why do you keep trying it???

> In fact NO tactic, and NO words
>you can write here can achieve your aim, which is to obscure the
>exposure of your lies about Desmond and his MLK posting.

Wrong... My sole PURPOSE is to expose the evil which desi
demonstrated as he attempted to DESTROY the tribute to MLK
that I had offered here. Racial prejudice attempts to cast a shadow
over the Black man. My purpose was first to pay a tribute to the
works of MLK in civil rights. My purpose NOW it to ILLUMINATE
the racist shadow that desi would cast over my tribute. It is as evil
as Man can devise. So evil that I tremble at the thought that such
hate could come from one man. An evil specter -- a destroyer of
worlds -- and man himself -- desi the racist.

And a specter you now support... because of your obsessive love
for flab.

> From now on,
>anyone wishing to swat you like a fly no longer has to spend time
>typing out long, detailed messages. Instead they simply have to either
>repost Desmond's "FW The Lying Slimeball" post or provide a link to
>it.
>

ROTFLMAO. You poor, delusional fool.

>And here is another link that explains why you and your lies need
>never again be a problem for any poster here.
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.03022...@posting.google.com
>

And here is one that shows you for what you are --

I am sorry for you, that in your defeat in another thread, in another battle,
in another war, on another day, you have found it necessary to DEFEND
a racist...acting like Satan's stooge. But it speaks eloquently to the fact that
you have descended to the most ignorant depths imaginable. Defending a
RACIST... because you're piqued at me. And it also demonstrates how
flimsy you realize your argument in respect to the _Great White Whale_
actually WAS. Since it has generated such a hateful response from you,
in you DEFENDING the comments of a racist. A response which is
remindful of a child in kindergarten, unhappy that his conduct was
laughed at by another, who psychologically needs to vent his anger by
providing such a hateful response in a totally different setting.

A little examination of the posts on that day, will show that I was the ONLY
person who recognized MLK that day in this group, in respect to originating that
tribute (25 separate new threads were generated on 20 Jan in this group, and
ONLY my new thread mentioned the fact of what special day it was). While
_desi the deil_ , was the ONLY poster who provided a hateful comment in
return in that thread ("MLK day"). The EVIDENCE (I know you have trouble
understanding the meaning of that word), shows clearly that desi's vile, repulsive,
insulting, degrading message was not toward me... but toward ALL BLACKS.
And it would have been generated by him regardless of who began that
thread. I just happened to be _available_ for him to vent his rage against Blacks.
He is, in fact, the worst form of a racist, and you support his racism.
You SUPPORT him hiding behind a facade that claims he is not... simply because
you argue he is ALLOWED TO BE A RACIST... as long as he claims another
is. While you ignore the most brutish, despicable, villainous, loathsome
and immoral comments imaginable. His racist slurs SPECIFICALLY TARGETING
BLACKS All raging against Blacks... ALL generated by HIM. and all trying to hide

behind that phony facade. The facade that any reasonable person can see through as
easily as that last veil on a stripper.

Regardless of any resentment toward me, for having so totally devastated your
flimsy arguments concerning the _Great White Whale_, you REALLY need to
apologize to the collective membership of this group, for letting your anger with
me, overrule your common sense to such a degree that you began to SUPPORT
racist slurs. Or do you still agree that the words desi used do not constitute
racial slurs?

Or you can now return to slobbering over desi's racist comments. The choice is
yours.

>
>
>A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message news:<km6g5vciehsgi290u...@4ax.com>...
>> On 22 Feb 2003 11:36:22 -0800, unimpre...@yahoo.com (Just passing by) wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message news:<g6ee5vofsqlgutu00...@4ax.com>...
>> >> On 21 Feb 2003 17:54:40 -0800, unimpre...@yahoo.com (Just passing by) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message news:<lrab5vov7fmh6vbfq...@4ax.com>...

And my other comment to you --

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Should anyone not yet familiar with PV - the proven compulsive liar,
and probably the most dishonest usenet poster there has ever been -
wish to view his previous post in a more revealing light, they should
firstly follow this link:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.03022...@posting.google.com

Then read his latest words (as below) again. Exactly the same words,
but they tell a very different story now that you can see the whole
picture, don't they?

A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message news:<06cj5vcqv38nidhap...@4ax.com>...

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On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 17:25:45 +0000, Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
wrote:

>le 23 Feb 2003 06:55:58 -0800, dans l'article <21b1da28.03022...@posting.google.com>, Just passing by <unimpre...@yahoo.com> a dit ...
>

>> That tactic doesn't work anymore, PV.
>

>{ snip remainder of 'JPB's sincere and heartfelt plea for FW to stop making
> an idiot of himself, as all of news:alt.activism.death-penalty has seen,
> read, and recognised that I did _not_ state that 'anyone' who would post
> a tribute to Martin Luther King, is a 'disgusting, laughable prick', but
> that in fact I was directing those words at FW }
>

Of course you did, desi... and all your efforts at _damage control_ are no longer
seen as anything more than such damage control. These were MY WORDS in
my tribute to MLK --

/quote/
What would MLK say today? The 'dream'?? Realized 34 years after his
assassination? Does anyone think it has become reality? This is a day of
'RECOGNITION.' Not in platitudes to ourselves of 'how far we have
come.' But in the awareness of 'how far we have to go.'

This is a day to personally reflect on your individual contributions to
EQUALITY, or the lack thereof. Because only TRUE EQUALITY can
fulfill that dream. This is a day for inward contemplation. To paraphrase
Lincoln... and I hope not tritely.. "That from (this) honored
dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which (he) gave
the last full measure of devotion.."

This is a day to honor the dead... to Honor Martin Luther King, Jr.
The man, his principles, his dreams... and yes -- his memory as well.
But let's not forget he is MORE than a 'memory.' He embodies the
very principles which should guide our lives. Where will we be 34
years from today? Will the glass of prejudice and hate still be half-full,
or will we have finally emptied it? I certainly don't know, but I do know
that the answer lies in the future behavior of each and every one of us.

PV
/unquote/

And you chose to INSULT that tribute... and in effect that man and ALL
Blacks, and more specifically American Blacks.

><cue 900 lines of reposted spam>

GENTLE READER --

What desi offered in his racist reply to the tribute I provided (which desi
has now seen fit to claim was NOT a tribute - yet looking at those words,
above, one cannot deny what they represent), provides what is the greatest
insult one can offer to a Black man... that of DISRESPECT... DISSIN', in
the current vernacular, the Black man. desi dissin' the Black man, and all
that MLK stood for -- in words so twisted and obscene they resemble
these rap lyrics which speak to the dissin' that desi provided toward the
Black man -- See
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/twiztid/somebodysdissinu.html
Pay close attention to one phrase in those lyrics --
"Realize there's a killer in your face
Look him in his eyes
Before your body dies"

Gentle reader --
Look desi in the eyes and see him for the foul, disgusting racist he is.
Before YOUR morality dies, and you routinely ACCEPT that someone can
mouth such racist comments as desi provided in his response to my TRIBUTE.
Because it WAS a TRIBUTE... while desi SCREAMED in rage that it was not.
YOUR OWN morality should be SCREAMING out... in condemnation of
ANYONE who would presume to insult a tribute to MLK, REGARDLESS
of how one feels about me personally. Since _I_ was not the SUBJECT of
that TRIBUTE... Martin Luther King, Jr., WAS. And desi provided his
racist INSULT to that tribute, not to me. Since I did not even speak of _ME_
in that tribute. desi's comment, in fact, represents his expression of hope that
"the glass of prejudice and hate [will] still be half-full," 34 years from now.
Because he expresses no wish that it be emptied. He expresses only a raging hate
for that tribute to MLK.

Weep for our world, gentle reader... and weep for those who think as desi
thinks. His thinking is why the glass of racism may still be as full in 34 years, as
it is today.

PV

One wonders where that 'Universal Right to Life' is, in this picture --
url:http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0302/feature2/zoom3.html
Oh... wait a minute... I think I see it behind that small brush in the background.
There on the left... see it, desi? Those two hidden eyes of the 'provider of the
Universal Right to Life,' peering from the brush. How COULD I have missed
that 'timeless, eternal, beyond everything' right that all 'life' possesses?
Too bad that 'your Church' isn't for that child.

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A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message news:<p6pk5v09qv48b2970...@4ax.com>...

< Lies clipped >

Contrary to the claim in the header of PV's post, no racism by Desmond
has ever been "proven". What has been proven is that for a very
considerable period of time, PV has, for his own reasons, been engaged
in a personal and totally irrational vendetta against Desmond and has
told lie after lie after lie in an effort to persuade others to join
him in this vendetta. One example of these lies can be found by
following this link.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.03022...@posting.google.com

The allegations of racism are, when investigated, always found to be
totally without foundation. For example, Desmond once posted a message
attacking racism against Arabs and in doing so exposed one of the
offensive terms that is often used by anti-Arab racists. PV saw that
as an opportunity to distort Desmond's words and attempted to create
the illusion of his (Desmond's) post having said the very opposite of
what it really had said. On other occasions he simply adds or changes
words others have written in order to distort, or sometimes even
completely reverse, their original meaning, as in the above example
linked to.

It is not only Desmond whom PV uses these methods against; anyone who
ever becomes involved in a heated exchange with PV - on any topic -
can expect to be lied about and their words subsequently distorted,
presented totally out of context and sometimes even completely made up
by PV.

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On 24 Feb 2003 02:22:13 -0800, unimpre...@yahoo.com (Just passing by) wrote:

>Should anyone not yet familiar with PV - the proven compulsive liar,
>and probably the most dishonest usenet poster there has ever been -
>wish to view his previous post in a more revealing light, they should
>firstly follow this link:
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.03022...@posting.google.com
>

In fact the post you offer above was quite eloquently DESTROYED, piece by racist
piece in my devastating rebuttal, found at --
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ebdj5v4pbvrfbmotuqndkm7omvhklj56d0%404ax.com

>Then read his latest words (as below) again. Exactly the same words,
>but they tell a very different story now that you can see the whole
>picture, don't they?

Let's clip some of those words of MINE from the bottom and place them
here in plain view again --

My sole PURPOSE is to expose the evil which desi demonstrated as
he attempted to DESTROY the tribute to MLK that I had offered here.
Racial prejudice attempts to cast a shadow over the Black man. My
purpose was first to pay a tribute to the works of MLK in civil rights.
My purpose NOW it to ILLUMINATE the racist shadow that desi
would cast over my tribute. It is as evil as Man can devise. So evil
that I tremble at the thought that such hate could come from one man.
An evil specter -- a destroyer of worlds -- and man himself -- desi
the racist.

And a specter you now support... because of your obsessive love
for flab.

I am sorry for you, that in your defeat in another thread, in another battle,

A question asked of you which STILL remains unanswered from you.

Or you can now return to slobbering over desi's racist comments. The choice is
yours.

PV

>A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message news:<06cj5vcqv38nidhap...@4ax.com>...
>> On 23 Feb 2003 06:55:58 -0800, unimpre...@yahoo.com (Just passing by) wrote:
>>
>> >That tactic doesn't work anymore, PV.
>>
>> Then why do you keep trying it???
>>
>> > In fact NO tactic, and NO words
>> >you can write here can achieve your aim, which is to obscure the
>> >exposure of your lies about Desmond and his MLK posting.
>>

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On 24 Feb 2003 20:41:22 -0800, unimpre...@yahoo.com (Just passing by) wrote:

>A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message news:<p6pk5v09qv48b2970...@4ax.com>...
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>< Lies clipped >
>
>Contrary to the claim in the header of PV's post, no racism by Desmond
>has ever been "proven".

Contrary to your claim, JPB...the racism of desi has been well-documented.
It is proven as far as I'm concerned. Obviously we cannot expect an
unbiased opinion from you. Having already been identified as a desi-lover.

> What has been proven is that for a very
>considerable period of time, PV has, for his own reasons, been engaged
>in a personal and totally irrational vendetta against Desmond and has
>told lie after lie after lie in an effort to persuade others to join
>him in this vendetta. One example of these lies can be found by
>following this link.

Not true at all... should desi cease his racist posts, his anti-American comments,
his demands that abolitionists torture and kill retentionists, his hyperbole, his
lies, his distortions, his obscene insults, his one-line vacuous and meaningless
drivel, and his ego-driven claims of some sort of superiority... I believe I could
deal with him as simply another abolitionist here... probably not a John Rennie, or
a Mr. D., or a Dave Proctor...but at least similar to Exador. As it is... desi is
obviously unreachable, and the only thing left, is to point out EACH AND
EVERY comment he makes which demonstrate ANY of the behavior patterns
Why you cannot see this, is beyond me.. thus I can only presume it is because
you have a hard-on for me, having so thoroughly destroyed your _argument_ (sic)
in respect to the _Great White Whale_.

And should you cease your pathetic adoration for heavy cheeses, and the posts
of racists... even you and I could hold a reasonable dialog, in respect to the
central issue in this newsgroup... the DP.

>http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.03022...@posting.google.com
>
How pathetic. You keep posting this over and over, just as desi pathetically
posted his comment on the non-existence of certain "freedom of expression" in
France, to which I simply replied over and over with my eloquent destruction of
his comments. So, in fact the post you offer over and over, was also quite

eloquently DESTROYED, piece by racist piece in my devastating rebuttal,
found at --
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ebdj5v4pbvrfbmotuqndkm7omvhklj56d0%404ax.com

>The allegations of racism are, when investigated, always found to be
>totally without foundation.

Actually, ALL 28 quotations containing the racial slurs he CREATED,
are well documented with his EXACT WORDS being quoted.

> For example, Desmond once posted a message
>attacking racism against Arabs and in doing so exposed one of the
>offensive terms that is often used by anti-Arab racists.

No.. he didn't EXPOSE it, in any way other than to USE it...as
his OWN.

> PV saw that
>as an opportunity to distort Desmond's words

Actually, one cannot _distort_ what is an EXACT duplicate.

> and attempted to create
>the illusion of his (Desmond's) post having said the very opposite of
>what it really had said.

Quite wrong... the _illusion_ was in desi's attempt to presume he has
a license to post those racial slurs. And you have fallen for that
illusion. I did not change ONE WORD of his comments.

> On other occasions he simply adds or changes
>words others have written in order to distort, or sometimes even
>completely reverse, their original meaning, as in the above example
>linked to.

Absolutely NOT. I never ADD or CHANGE words.

>
>It is not only Desmond whom PV uses these methods against; anyone who
>ever becomes involved in a heated exchange with PV - on any topic -
>can expect to be lied about and their words subsequently distorted,
>presented totally out of context and sometimes even completely made up
>by PV.

Yeah... like when it was mentioned that Judge Zobel had the power to overturn
the verdict of the _Great White Whale_, and I _distorted_ YOUR words when
you said -- "I stated it as a fact that he had no power in this case to do that. It
remains a fact..." Whereupon, when it was determined that he COULD overturn
the verdict you did a magnificent two-step and tried to change your MEANING
to that of arguing that IF HE HAD... Thus, trying to change an unequivocal
statement on your part, into a hypothetical WHAT IF.

You're so full of shit, JPB. And you STILL haven't answered the question... in
respect to desi's racist comments. --

Regardless of any resentment toward me, for having so totally laid waste
to your flimsy arguments concerning the _Great White Whale_, you

REALLY need to apologize to the collective membership of this group,
for letting your anger with me, overrule your common sense to such a

degree that you now appear to SUPPORT racist slurs. Or do you

still agree that the words desi used do not constitute racial slurs?

A question which STILL remains unanswered from you. Do you
believe that none of those 28 quotes do not demonstrate some racism
on desi's part? A simple yes or no will suffice.