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Michael Christ

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Jul 30, 2009, 5:34:01 AM7/30/09
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Andrew B. Chung is a faux-disciple, a pretender, a person who has betrayed a
trust in the same breath as saying he speaks in the Holy Spirit, and
therefore is a disciple of Satan.

Warning, do not enter into any telephone conversation with him, he is not a
person you can trust. Beware, he tries to snare people by demanding you say
to him "Jesus is Lord" on the telephone, and if you don't, he accuses you of
not being a Christian. So you speak to him on the telephone and he betrays
your personal conversation with him to others for personal gain!!!

What grotesque witness!!

I was fooled by him and now I feel like an idiot and violated.

What a woeful and appalling witness of the Lord this 'heartless'
cardiologist
is, displaying the Lord Jesus in the image of an untrustworthy disgrace.
Shame Andrew!!!

Shame on you Andrew B. Chung, "HeartDoc" and provider of spiritual VEBs and
PVCs.

Michael Christ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 30, 2009, 6:30:32 AM7/30/09
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Michael McClean wrote:

> You are untrustworthy, Andrew, no matter how many times you say "Andrew, in
> the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:" and say, "Jesus is Lord".

Indeed, the only One Who is trustworthy is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Now, back to the question you have been avoiding:

> > "Ok, there are eleven men in a night-time camp with the Messiah
> > making twelve men total and you are to walk up to Christ Jesus and hug Him
> > without saying a word to anyone.

> > How would you identify Him from among the eleven in order to go to
> > Him directly to hug Him in the dark?" -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ef704276e5821b33?

May you not be left behind, Mike.

Love in the truth,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
A gentile disciple of Jesus Christ
able to recognize the Messiah
even at night in the dark.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 30, 2009, 6:40:02 AM7/30/09
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Chuck wrote:
>
> Where have you been for the last year??? Locked in a closet?
>
> You must be the only person on earth with access to the Internet who hasn't
> concluded Chung is mentally ill, and should NOT be encouraged by responding
> to him AT ALL. The evidence is EVERYWHERE!

This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
wrote were true.

With all due respect, can you, Chuck, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
using your mouth?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of the acronym WDJW:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_does_Jesus_want%3F

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Michael Christ

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Jul 30, 2009, 7:08:38 AM7/30/09
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
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> Chuck wrote:
>>
>> Where have you been for the last year??? Locked in a closet?
>>
>> You must be the only person on earth with access to the Internet who
>> hasn't
>> concluded Chung is mentally ill, and should NOT be encouraged by
>> responding
>> to him AT ALL. The evidence is EVERYWHERE!


Andrew wrote:
> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
> wrote were true.

> With all due respect, can you, Chuck, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
> using your mouth?

Here he goes again...

What you must do now is kneel before his demand and telephone him post-haste
or he will judge unworthy to be a Christian. Quick do it now before he
brings down his judgment in his ummm...in his...holy...no...ummm...his
untrustworthiness. Be careful on the phone because he uses what people say
in confidence to him for personal gain.

Say "Jesus is Lord" before him or you will go to hell because everyone is
answerable to Andrew B. Chung, HeartDoc Cardiologist MD PhD.

Michael Christ

guardian Snow

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Jul 30, 2009, 7:40:37 AM7/30/09
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Anybody that can't tell this just by looking at the way he post has
issues too. Of course he's lost and confused. He spends his days
attacking people and spamming message boards with the same moronic
post for years on end and has nothing of value to say.

I can appreciate the warning MC... now a word for you:

We are required by scriptures to warn our brothers of the fact that
their behavior is wrong.

Eze 3:17 “Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the house of
Yisra’ĕl. And you shall hear a word from My mouth, and shall warn them
from Me.

Why do we presume to speak for the Almighty? The applicable words
are, “from My mouth”, have all of you heard the Almighty speaking to
you from his mouth to your ears?

Eze 3:19 “But if you have warned the wrong and he does not turn from
his wrong, nor from his wrong way, he shall die in his crookedness,
and you have delivered your being.

When we speak our peace to other people, we have fulfilled our
obligation to warn our brothers when they are wrong. Why do people
live in judgment of other people when clearly scriptures teach us not
to do this? If we believe somebody is in error, we should speak up
but then,

Pro 26:20 Where no wood is, there the fire goeth out: so where there
is no talebearer, the strife ceaseth.

Scriptures repeat over and over that we should leave them alone:

Isa 55:7 Let the wrong forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his
thoughts. Let him return to Yahweh, who has compassion on him, and to
our Elohim, for He pardons much. 8 “For My thoughts are not your
thoughts, neither are your ways My ways,” declares Yahweh. 9 “For as
the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your
ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts.

Let the wrong forsake his way! WOW, you mean it’s not our job to go
around accusing every other person of being the antichrist?

Rev 22:11 “He who does wrong, let him do more wrong; he who is filthy,
let him be more filthy; he who is righteous, let him be more
righteous; he who is set-apart, let him be more set-apart.

Are we seeing this? He who is wrong, LET HIM DO MORE WRONG… This
can’t be true, how could this be in the bible?

Eze 3:27 “But when I speak with you, I open your mouth, and you shall
say to them, ‘Thus said the Master Yahweh.’ He who hears, let him
hear. And he who refuses, let him refuse, for they are a rebellious
house.

He who refuses, “Let him refuse”… You mean the idea of leaving people
that you might consider wicked alone isn’t a unique teaching?

Mar 8:33 And turning around and seeing His taught ones, He rebuked
Kĕpha, saying, “Get behind Me, Satan! For your thoughts are not those
of Elohim, but those of men.”

That our thoughts are not his thoughts aren’t unique is something we
should all consider in our peaceful journey forward. Learning to
respect even those that disagree with us is not something unscriptural
or some fancy new age teaching.

Mat 15:13 But He answering, said, “Every plant which My heavenly
Father has not planted shall be uprooted.
Mat 15:14 “Leave them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And
if the blind leads the blind, both shall fall into a ditch.”

It’s not something only the Messiah taught, it’s Old Testament.

Hos 4:17 “Ephrayim is joined to idols, let him alone.

I have no doubt that this is a hard teaching to follow for us.. that
we let them be what they are but in doing so, we submit to the
teachings of our scriptures and show by our works, the faith that
motivate our actions.

Hos 4:4 “However, let no one strive or reprove another, for your
people are like those striving with a priest. 5 “And you shall
stumble in the day, and the prophet shall also stumble with you in the
night. And I shall make your mother perish. 6 “My people have
perished for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I
reject you from being priest for Me. Since you have forgotten the
Torah of your Elohim, I also forget your children.

Yahweh desires that we know and understand but this does not happen
when we waste our time passing OUR judgment on our other people. The
scriptures are very clear in that we are not to strive with other
people. Now this is not to say that we can’t have a spirited debate
which by the very meaning is righteous, only that it is not our place
to seek to subvert other peoples understandings.

Eze 18:23 “Have I any pleasure in the death of the wrong?” declares
the Master Yahweh. “Is it not that he should turn from his ways, and
live?

I strongly recommend people read Ezekiel especially chapters, 3, 18
and 33 which are all relevant to the topic.

Deu 17:12 “And the man who acts arrogantly, so as not to listen to the
priest who stands to serve there before Yahweh your Elohim, or to the
judge, that man shall die. So you shall purge the evil from IsraEL.

We have ONE JUDGE and ONE CREATOR who will judge all, don’t try to
think it’s you. Be Humble.

Psa 58:4 Their poison is like the poison of a snake; Like a deaf cobra
that stops its ear,
Psa 58:5 So as not to hear the voice of whisperers, Or a skilled
caster of spells.
Psa 58:6 O Elohim, break their teeth in their mouth! Break out the
fangs of the young lions, O Yahweh!

Shalom,
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has been to one's own.
Willa Cather

An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation,
nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.
Mohandas Gandhi

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Thommadura

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Michael Christ wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
> news:c3527f4c-283d-4f7c...@32g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>> Chuck wrote:
>>>
>>> Where have you been for the last year??? Locked in a closet?
>>>
>>> You must be the only person on earth with access to the Internet who
>>> hasn't
>>> concluded Chung is mentally ill, and should NOT be encouraged by
>>> responding
>>> to him AT ALL. The evidence is EVERYWHERE!
>
>
> Andrew wrote:
>> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
>> wrote were true.
>
>> With all due respect, can you, Chuck, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>> using your mouth?
>
> Here he goes again...
>
> What you must do now is kneel before his demand and telephone him
> post-haste or he will judge unworthy to be a Christian.

Interesting - but that is what YOU do as well
And so does Monkfish

YOU decide what is your religion = and then you condemn anyone who does
not believe you - even though YOU provide nothing to prove you are correct.

So the three of you are just like identical triplets - and equally
logical as well.

Thommadura

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Jul 30, 2009, 7:44:52 AM7/30/09
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ANother heretical belief - Snowy?

YOU are also told that YOU are not to judge - or YOU will be judged!


Whenever you present your scruptural passages to support your claims -
which they do not - you must also know that anyone can quote the bible
to contradict what you say as well.

Interseting really - a book that always takes ALL sides of an issue - is
universal to good and evil as well - is worthless as proof of anything
since it itself proves itself to be nonsense

Jimi Alpha

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Jul 30, 2009, 7:56:13 AM7/30/09
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Michael Christ wrote:

I think all can see sightwalker must have had a few marbles cracked and
crumbled when that cop gave him his learning moment.! Perhaps that's why
he's an internet junkie?
Jimi Alpha

Jimi Alpha

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sightwalker with a phd said:

> Chuck wrote:
> >
> > Where have you been for the last year??? Locked in a closet?
> >
> > You must be the only person on earth with access to the Internet who hasn't
> > concluded Chung is mentally ill, and should NOT be encouraged by responding
> > to him AT ALL. The evidence is EVERYWHERE!
>
> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
> wrote were true.

If true you have an active medical license, it shows what you say[sic]
is wrong.
Jimi Alpha

Michael Christ

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Jul 30, 2009, 8:19:11 AM7/30/09
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I have a 'Word' for you Snow, a lot less 'wordy' than yours, and simple.

You are so buried in Scripture (laws, ordinances and rules) you can't see
the Spirit.

Truly.


Michael Christ

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Jimi Alpha

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Jul 30, 2009, 8:35:18 AM7/30/09
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Thommadura wrote:

This may help in some small way if used as a rough model of the proper
etiquette?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR3Qxe8lkJU&NR=1
Jimi Alpha

Michael Christ

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"Jimi Alpha" <jimmy...@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:h4s1ou$a39$1...@news.datemas.de...

> Michael Christ wrote:
>
>> Andrew B. Chung is a faux-disciple, a pretender, a person who has
>> betrayed a
>> trust in the same breath as saying he speaks in the Holy Spirit, and
>> therefore is a disciple of Satan.
>>
>> Warning, do not enter into any telephone conversation with him, he is not
>> a
>> person you can trust. Beware, he tries to snare people by demanding you
>> say
>> to him "Jesus is Lord" on the telephone, and if you don't, he accuses you
>> of
>> not being a Christian. So you speak to him on the telephone and he
>> betrays
>> your personal conversation with him to others for personal gain!!!
>>
>> What grotesque witness!!
>>
>> I was fooled by him and now I feel like an idiot and violated.
>>
>> What a woeful and appalling witness of the Lord this 'heartless'
>> cardiologist
>> is, displaying the Lord Jesus in the image of an untrustworthy disgrace.
>> Shame Andrew!!!
>>
>> Shame on you Andrew B. Chung, "HeartDoc" and provider of spiritual VEBs
>> and
>> PVCs.
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Christ

Jimi wrote:
> I think all can see sightwalker must have had a few marbles cracked and
> crumbled when that cop gave him his learning moment.! Perhaps that's why
> he's an internet junkie?

Andrew just has to learn one lesson, and all will be well from there.

It is a very hard lesson and few there are that will learn it, Jimi.

It is the lesson of learning that everything you do, and everything you say,
and everything you are, is wrong.

It is open to everyone, and anyone can learn it, but a lesson that only a
few choose to receive.

Michael Christ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mike McClean wrote:
>
> You are untrustworthy, Andrew, no matter how many times you say "Andrew, in
> the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:" and say, "Jesus is Lord".

Indeed, the only One Who is trustworthy is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Now, back to the question you have been avoiding:

> > "Ok, there are eleven men in a night-time camp with the Messiah
> > making twelve men total and you are to walk up to Christ Jesus and hug Him
> > without saying a word to anyone.
> > How would you identify Him from among the eleven in order to go to
> > Him directly to hug Him in the dark?" -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ef704276e5821b33?

May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to reign in you
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.

Love in the truth,

HeartDoc Andrew <><

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

<<kêllÿ>>

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Jul 30, 2009, 12:04:18 PM7/30/09
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On Jul 30, 3:40 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
> wrote were true.

Not.

One can have an active medical license if one doesn't have an active
practice, hospital admitting privileges and actual patients to freak
out (who would hopefully report you to your state's medical board at
which point your active medical license would likely be revoked).

Your license may be currently active, but that doesn't mean you
currently have an active practice.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Kelly wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:

>
>> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
>> wrote were true.
>
>Not.

Yes.

Those who doubt the sanity of this physician may certainly call the
Georgia Composite Medical Examiners (aka GA Medical Board) to have
their doubts dispelled.

With all due respect, can you, Kelly, glorify GOD by publicly saying


"Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor

and Author of the WDJW acronym:

<<kêllÿ>>

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Jul 30, 2009, 12:16:13 PM7/30/09
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On Jul 30, 9:12 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WIJ.com>
wrote:

> >> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
> >> wrote were true.

> >Not.

> Yes.  

How convenient for you to have snipped the remainder of what I wrote
in order to change the context. No matter - everyone here knows you
for who and what you are already.

> Those who doubt the sanity of this physician may certainly call the
> Georgia Composite Medical Examiners (aka GA Medical Board) to have
> their doubts dispelled.

No need to call them, your medical license is listed online. However,
as I've already stated, having an active medical license isn't
synonymous with actively practicing, having hospital privileges, and
having any patients.

monkfish

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Jul 30, 2009, 12:53:20 PM7/30/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Kelly wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>
>>> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
>>> wrote were true.
>>
>>Not.
>
> Yes.
>
> Those who doubt the sanity of this physician may certainly call the
> Georgia Composite Medical Examiners (aka GA Medical Board) to have
> their doubts dispelled.


Is it true that you are not
actively practicing medicine?
Ever thought about going to Afraica or somewhere
it's not too expensive to practice medicine?

--
monkfish

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 30, 2009, 12:54:56 PM7/30/09
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Kelly wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> >> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
>> >> wrote were true.
>
>> > Not.
>
>> Yes. �
>
>How convenient for you to have snipped the remainder of what I wrote
>in order to change the context.

Your first error invalidated the rest of your post.

> No matter - everyone here knows you
> for who and what you are already.

Indeed, this bona-fide actively licensed sane (non-impaired) physician
is one of Jesus' disciples :-)

>> Those who doubt the sanity of this physician may certainly call the
>> Georgia Composite Medical Examiners (aka GA Medical Board) to have
>> their doubts dispelled.
>
>No need to call them, your medical license is listed online.

Therefore this physician must be sane (unimpaired) because the GA
Medical Board does revoke the medical licenses of impaired physicians.

With more respect than due you, can you, Kelly, publicly say "Jesus is

Jimi Alpha

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sightwalker with a phd wrote:
> Kelly wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>
>>> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
>>> wrote were true.
>> Not.
>
> Yes.
>
> Those who doubt the sanity of this physician may certainly call the
> Georgia Composite Medical Examiners (aka GA Medical Board) to have
> their doubts dispelled.
>
> With all due respect, can you, Kelly, glorify GOD by publicly saying
> "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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monkfish wrote:

>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Kelly wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>>
>>>> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
>>>> wrote were true.
>>>
>>>Not.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Those who doubt the sanity of this physician may certainly call the
>> Georgia Composite Medical Examiners (aka GA Medical Board) to have
>> their doubts dispelled.
>
> Is it true that you are not
> actively practicing medicine?

As true as stating that a person with an active driver's license is
not actively driving a car.

Meanwhile, folks who really need to know the details about this
physician's cardiology practice are certainly welcome to leave a
callback number on voicemail at the number listed at the bottom of the
following web site:

http://WDJW.net

Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying
post-haste:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5e6521c2c36406ce?

There is true joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) and would come to trust the truth, Who is
Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

<<kêllÿ>>

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On Jul 30, 9:54 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WIJ.com>
wrote:

> >> >> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
> >> >> wrote were true.

> >> > Not.

> >> Yes.  

> >How convenient for you to have snipped the remainder of what I wrote
> >in order to change the context.

> Your first error invalidated the rest of your post.

Riiight...just like a couple of months ago you claimed that a spelling
error I made proved I wasn't empowered by the Holy Spirit - the
funniest part of that ridiculous (and un-Scriptural) statement was
that in the very same post you made spelling errors.

Now *that* was funny! ;-)

> > No matter - everyone here knows you
> > for who and what you are already.

> Indeed, this bona-fide actively licensed sane (non-impaired) physician
> is one of Jesus' disciples :-)

What I was referring to is you being a delusional, megalomaniacal,
obsessive-compulsive control-freak - everyone here already knows you
to be so. Because of your delusional, megalomaniacal, and obsessive-
compulsive controlling behavior, it's impossible to see anything even
resembling a follower of the Biblical Jesus Christ.

What we see is a follower of yourself who walks by sight, not by
faith.

> >> Those who doubt the sanity of this physician may certainly call the
> >> Georgia Composite Medical Examiners (aka GA Medical Board) to have
> >> their doubts dispelled.

> >No need to call them, your medical license is listed online.

> Therefore this physician must be sane (unimpaired) because the GA
> Medical Board does revoke the medical licenses of impaired physicians.

I note you did not refute my statement ("having an active medical


license isn't
synonymous with actively practicing, having hospital privileges, and
having any patients".

In this case, no refutation from you equates your admission that what
I stated is true: no patients, no hospital privileges, no practice.
Simply put - not a practicing physician, just an impotent one.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Kelly wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> >> >> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
>> >> >> wrote were true.
>
>> >> > Not.
>
>> >> Yes. �
>
>> >How convenient for you to have snipped the remainder of what I wrote
>> >in order to change the context.
>
>> Your first error invalidated the rest of your post.
>
>Riiight...

GOD is right.

You, otoh, are not.

Again, with more respect than is due you, can you, Kelly, publicly say


"Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?

To encourage you to answer the above simple yes/no question
truthfully, here is an example of someone who simply wanted to say
"Jesus is LORD" because the Holy Spirit had placed that desire in his
heart:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BethAdonai/Darren

<<kêllÿ>>

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Jul 30, 2009, 1:29:30 PM7/30/09
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On Jul 30, 10:19 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WIJ.com>
wrote:

> Kelly wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> >> >> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
> >> >> >> wrote were true.
>
> >> >> > Not.
>
> >> >> Yes.  
>
> >> >How convenient for you to have snipped the remainder of what I wrote
> >> >in order to change the context.
>
> >> Your first error invalidated the rest of your post.
>
> >Riiight...
>
> GOD is right.
>
> You, otoh, are not.

In your eyes, no one other than those you have approved are right.
And the list is quite short, Andy (you and you are on that list).

Tell us, how many churches have you been told never to return to?
Tell us, how many patients do you have? Tell us, how many hospitals
do you have privileges at?

A licensed doctor with no hospital privileges and no patients is an
impotent doctor. A self-proclaimed follower of Jesus Christ who walks
by sight rather than faith and doesn't demonstrate the love of Jesus
Christ is an impotent Christian - void of the Holy Spirit. You are
both an impotent doctor and an impotent Christian - as well as a man
with very deep, unresolved emotional and untreated mental issues.

For the sake of your child, get help soon.

Randy �

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Subject: The impotence of Andy Ching
<<k�ll�>> <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:


Just out of curiosity, did/do you have a warm, loving
relationship with your father? My guess is no. That's often
the case with homosexuals.

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On Jul 30, 10:50 am, Randy ® <pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, did/do you have a warm, loving
> relationship with your father?  My guess is no.  

As if it's any of your business...

However, yes, I did and do. In fact, I live right next door to him in
the house I had built a few years ago when I moved back home from
another state in order to help care for my aging parents. My father
is a wonderful man and I am very proud of him - a Navy war hero, he
earned seven Distinguished Flying Crosses and 21 Air Medals (among
other awards). I have always been very close to both of my parents,
but I would say that right now, I am even closer.

Now, don't you have a newborn child (who was in the NICU for quite a
while after birth), two more children, and a wife with a recent
history of Postpartum Psychosis (still on medication) who all need
your attention more than Usenet? And, BTW - how's the job search
going?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 30, 2009, 3:10:40 PM7/30/09
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Kelly wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Kelly wrote:
>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
>> >> >> >> wrote were true.
>>
>> >> >> > Not.
>>
>> >> >> Yes. �
>>
>> >> >How convenient for you to have snipped the remainder of what I wrote
>> >> >in order to change the context.
>>
>> >> Your first error invalidated the rest of your post.
>>
>> >Riiight...
>>
>> GOD is right.
>>
>> You, otoh, are not.
>
> In your eyes, no one other than those you have approved are right.

Incorrect.

This physician has been given the understanding that GOD does not
approve of those who do not have the help of the Holy Spirit to
publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as given by the earlier example of
someone who left a voicemail message for this doctor proclaiming
"Jesus is LORD" simply because he wanted to do it:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BethAdonai/Darren

Here is another example:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BethAdonai/Ralph

And yet, another:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BethAdonai/John

Again, with far more respect that is due you, can you, Kelly, publicly


say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?

Love in the truth,

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 30, 2009, 3:13:59 PM7/30/09
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Kelly wrote:

>Randy wrote:
>
>> Just out of curiosity, did/do you have a warm, loving
>> relationship with your father? �My guess is no. �
>
>As if it's any of your business...
>
>However, yes, I did and do.

Now that it has been established that you can answer yes/no questions.

Again, with more than all due respect, can you, Kelly, publicly say


"Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?

Love in the truth,

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 30, 2009, 3:21:54 PM7/30/09
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With all due respect, can you, Randy, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
using your mouth?

Love in the truth,

Thommadura

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Jul 30, 2009, 3:54:26 PM7/30/09
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Indeed

An active medical license only means that you have paid the bill for it
- and meet the educational and testing requirements of the license itself.

Thommadura

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kelly wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>
>>> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
>>> wrote were true.
>> Not.
>
> Yes.
>
> Those who doubt the sanity of this physician may certainly call the
> Georgia Composite Medical Examiners (aka GA Medical Board) to have
> their doubts dispelled.


Sorry - but doing so will not get an answer to the question.

Unless someone has brought YOU up on charges that question your sanity -
they have no reason to test it - so they cannot and WILL NOT attest to it.

<<kêllÿ>>

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On Jul 30, 12:10 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WIJ.com>
wrote:

> >> GOD is right.
>
> >> You, otoh, are not.

> > In your eyes, no one other than those you have approved are right.

> Incorrect.

No, very correct (as I will show below)

> This physician has been given the understanding that GOD does not
> approve of those who do not have the help of the Holy Spirit to
> publicly say "Jesus is LORD"

I see. However, you deceptively left out an important portion of this
"understanding" (I imagine you believe God specifically gave you this
"understanding", am I correct?) - you left out the part where people
have to jump through your special hoop and not just say "Jesus is
Lord" *publically* but on the phone, to you personally. This extra
hurdle you have added to the Word of God is not only unscriptural, but
it proves what I said above - In your eyes, no one other than those
you have approved are right - to be right on the mark.

Sorry, Andy - but the God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob, God the Father and God the Son, does not operate that way.

So, once again...How many churches have you been told to never return
to? How many patients do you have? How many hospitals do you have
admitting privileges in? And one additional question: how many
"prophecies" have you given that have been proven to be false and/or
just plain wrong?

tr...@finder.com

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Jul 30, 2009, 4:12:13 PM7/30/09
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Truth:

Someone has been using the following falsely:

1 Corr.
012:003 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by
the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can
say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

It is false to assert this means that any not a christian can not
orally utter the words of the last line.

This is to make it an act of magic and a superstition to demand that
meaning alone. It clearly can mean in context not to say it with full
conviction of heart.

It is another product of a lone ranger bible reader who purposefully and
vainly isolates themselves from the leavening that having a mature
spiritual counselor would afford.

It is only one more in such a line of irrational self invented
distortion of scripture. The shrunken fruit of the fig tree.

By that fruit alone the source can be ignored without a second
consideration.

tr...@finder.com

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Jul 30, 2009, 4:13:01 PM7/30/09
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Michael Christ

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Randy wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, did/do you have a warm, loving
> relationship with your father? My guess is no. That's often the case
> with homosexuals.

Kelly wrote:
>As if it's any of your business...

>However, yes, I did and do. In fact, I live right next door to him in
>the house I had built a few years ago when I moved back home from
>another state in order to help care for my aging parents. My father
>is a wonderful man and I am very proud of him - a Navy war hero, he
>earned seven Distinguished Flying Crosses and 21 Air Medals (among
>other awards). I have always been very close to both of my parents,
>but I would say that right now, I am even closer.

>Now, don't you have a newborn child (who was in the NICU for quite a
>while after birth), two more children, and a wife with a recent
>history of Postpartum Psychosis (still on medication) who all need
>your attention more than Usenet? And, BTW - how's the job search
>going?

The reply your comment deserved Randy.

Just out of curiosity Randy, do you ever look at another woman and go
Mmmmm...?

Michael Christ

Michael Christ

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Jul 30, 2009, 4:26:20 PM7/30/09
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Andrew B. Chung wrote:
> May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is right
> (Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to reign in you
> deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
> sinning.

You need to receive what the Holy Spirit is prompting you and stop
projecting it to others, Andrew. The evidence is before you of a deceitful
heart, and it resides in........your............actions.

May you swallow your "HeartDoc" "I'm a Cardiologist so I am right" pride
(futile self-approval) and see that everything you say, do and are, is
wrong. Maybe then you can become the disciple you want to be.


Michael Christ

tr...@finder.com

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Jul 30, 2009, 4:31:27 PM7/30/09
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The strong will of some to want to protect a ppaper face can know no
bounds.

One can have a medical license until it is under review or complaints
brought resulting in formal review. If one has such a low or no public
practice then unless there are builtin time limits, one's status would
not usually come under review. One who has lost all limbs can have a
driving license until time to renew comes.

One can call oneself a practicing doctor in principle if one gives the
little old lady next door an aspirin for her head. One can bee said to
be a doctor and provide aspirin and still not be able to admit or treat
patients at local hospitals for having not been granted the priviledge
to do so..

Although it be a falsehood by ommission and misdirection by use of word
meaning, the practical result remains.

Some will do just about anything to maintain a public paper face, even
to lie and misdirect.

For such a person we should pray.

May God bless and protect and heal and provide peace.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Michael Christ wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is right
>> (Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to reign in your

>> deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
>> sinning.

Amen.

>You need to receive what the Holy Spirit is prompting you and stop
>projecting it to others, Andrew.

It remains this physician's personal choice to continue to receive the
guidance of the Holy Spirit in everything said, done, and written.

HE guides this disciple of Jesus to again ask you the following
question that you have been avoiding since your writing that you can
physically identify Christ Jesus:

> > "Ok, there are eleven men in a night-time camp with the Messiah
> > making twelve men total and you are to walk up to Christ Jesus and hug Him
> > without saying a word to anyone.
> > How would you identify Him from among the eleven in order to go to
> > Him directly to hug Him in the dark?" -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ef704276e5821b33?

You remain in my prayers, Mike :-)

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Kelly wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> >> GOD is right.
>>
>> >> You, otoh, are not.
>
>> > In your eyes, no one other than those you have approved are right.
>
>> Incorrect.
>
> No, very correct (as I will show below)
>
>> This physician has been given the understanding that GOD does not
>> approve of those who do not have the help of the Holy Spirit to
>> publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>
>I see. However, you deceptively left out an important portion of this
>"understanding" (I imagine you believe God specifically gave you this
>"understanding", am I correct?)

All true understanding is from GOD.

> - you left out the part where people
>have to jump through your special hoop and not just say "Jesus is
>Lord" *publically* but on the phone, to you personally.

Voicemails such as the following were not spoken to this physician
personally:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BethAdonai/Ralph

Moreover, at this point in time, you are having difficulty answering
the following simple and straightforward yes/no question:

Again, with more than all due respect, can you, Kelly, publicly say

<<kêllÿ>>

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On Jul 30, 2:17 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WIJ.com>
wrote:

> Kelly wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> >> GOD is right.
>
> >> >> You, otoh, are not.
>
> >> > In your eyes, no one other than those you have approved are right.
>
> >> Incorrect.
>
> > No, very correct (as I will show below)
>
> >> This physician has been given the understanding that GOD does not
> >> approve of those who do not have the help of the Holy Spirit to
> >> publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>
> >I see.  However, you deceptively left out an important portion of this
> >"understanding" (I imagine you believe God specifically gave you this
> >"understanding", am I correct?)
>
> All true understanding is from GOD.

I see. However, you continue to deceptively leave out an important
portion of this
"understanding" (I imagine you believe God specifically gave you - and
you alone - this
"understanding", am I correct?) - you left out the part where people


have to jump through your special hoop and not just say "Jesus is

Lord" *publically* but on the phone, to you personally (and that
includes on your answering machine). This extra hurdle you have added


to the Word of God is not only unscriptural, but it proves what I said

above - In your eyes, no one other than those you have approved are


right - to be right on the mark.

Sorry, Andy - but the God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob, God the Father and God the Son, does not operate that way.

> Moreover, at this point in time, you are having difficulty answering


> the following simple and straightforward yes/no question:

Moreover, at this point in time, you continue to have difficulty
answering the following questions and apparently believe that by
snipping them, they don't exist. Let's try this again, shall we?

Tell us truthfully, Andy - How many churches have you been told to


never return to? How many patients do you have? How many hospitals
do you have admitting privileges in? And one additional question: how
many "prophecies" have you given that have been proven to be false and/
or just plain wrong?

These are not difficult questions - and I can't imagine why you are
avoiding answering them (unless, of course, you have something to
hide...)

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Kelly wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Kelly wrote:
>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> >> >> GOD is right.
>>
>> >> >> You, otoh, are not.
>>
>> >> > In your eyes, no one other than those you have approved are right.
>>
>> >> Incorrect.
>>
>> > No, very correct (as I will show below)
>>
>> >> This physician has been given the understanding that GOD does not
>> >> approve of those who do not have the help of the Holy Spirit to
>> >> publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>>
>> >I see. �However, you deceptively left out an important portion of this
>> >"understanding" (I imagine you believe God specifically gave you this
>> >"understanding", am I correct?)
>>
>> All true understanding is from GOD.
>
>I see. However, you continue to deceptively leave out an important
>portion of this
>"understanding" (I imagine you believe God specifically gave you - and
>you alone - this
>"understanding", am I correct?)

GOD does give specific gifts to specific people. This is Scriptural.

> - you left out the part where people
>have to jump through your special hoop and not just say "Jesus is
>Lord" *publically* but on the phone, to you personally (and that
>includes on your answering machine).

You have the cart before the horse again.

People are not born again by publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" whether
to this physician, to voicemail that will be publicly broadcast, or
to a video camera that will have video posted to YouTube.

Instead, it has been the experience of this physician that people who
are truly born again truly want to publicly proclaim with their mouths
that "Jesus is LORD" as evident by the following:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BethAdonai/Darren

ThomM

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On Jul 30, 1:50 pm, Randy ® <pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:29:30 -0700 (PDT),
>   In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
>   Article
> <44d652ae-d3c0-4552-9bea-951f12edb...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,

> Subject: The impotence of Andy Ching

Just out of curiosity- what kind of warm loving relationship do you
have with your minister? That is often the case with priests

Michael Christ

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I am not answerable to you, Andrew. There is no-one in your life that is
answerable to you, because you are not what you say you are.

You lack a lot of understanding Andrew.

For example...

Andrew wrote:
>Sadly, Mike, though born again, continues to be guided by the spirit
>of error (self).

A born again man is not guided by the spirit of error, no matter what
pendulum in-out designer-man religion tells you. A born again man is born
again of the Spirit of Truth...period.

A born again man is born again of the Spirit from above, is not of this
world, and resides in Him; good fruit from a good tree.


Andrew wrote:
> You remain in my prayers, Mike :-)

Very noble of you Andrew. Exemplary.

But unfortunately, you cannot be trusted.

Michael Christ

<<kêllÿ>>

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On Jul 30, 2:41 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WIJ.com>
wrote:

> GOD does give specific gifts to specific people.  This is Scriptural.

He gives specific gifts, yes - He doesn't give special
"understandings" that contradict His Word.

> > - you left out the part where people
> >have to jump through your special hoop and not just say "Jesus is
> >Lord" *publically* but on the phone, to you personally (and that
> >includes on your answering machine).

> You have the cart before the horse again.

Nope. You attempt to deceptively lure people into a false sense of
security by calling your number to say, "Jesus is Lord" and then you
give them the third-degree and on top of that, you and only you are
the decider as to whether or not they are saved. That's contrary to
Scripture and it's deceptive. God doesn't work that way and He hasn't
set such ridiculous requirements for salvation.

You are a false teacher and a real deceiver.

> People are not born again by publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" whether
> to this physician,  to voicemail that will be publicly broadcast, or
> to a video camera that will have video posted to YouTube.

No, they aren't. So why do you make such requirements a supposed
necessity?

> Instead, it has been the experience of this physician that people who
> are truly born again truly want to publicly proclaim with their mouths
> that "Jesus is LORD" as evident by the following:

It has been the experience of this long-time born-again Christian that
people like you are false teachers and intentional deceivers and
generally have a screw loose.

Now...you continue to have difficulty answering the following


questions and apparently believe that by snipping them, they don't

exist. If you continue to snip and avoid these questions, I will no
longer reply to you except to ask the same questions (until you answer
them, that is):

ThomM

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Andrew suffers from the delusions of his family - when he proclaims
his education makes him special.

For a long time - people placed those with medical degrees - in high
esteem simply because of the effort involved to get one - and people
with medical degrees often use them as proof of their supposed
"superiority" over others.

While I believe my father has indicated that I am a doctor - I do not
believe that he has admitted that he also has a medical degree as well
as two other doctorates.. The fact is - what makes a person special is
the person - not his ability to memorize volumes of data. Even
retarded and impaired people are able to do that.

<<kêllÿ>>

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On Jul 30, 2:52 pm, ThomM <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote:

> Just out of curiosity- what kind of warm loving relationship do you
> have with your minister?

I seriously doubt Randy even has a church he attends regularly.
Usually, when someone has such a radical view of the Bible and
Christianity and declares such animosity toward pretty much everyone
who isn't just like them, they don't have a church or a pastor.
Unless, of course, his pastor is Fred Phelps.

;-)

Randy �

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On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:00:36 -0700 (PDT),

In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article
<c2640eee-ba77-4e6f...@l5g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
Subject: Re: The impotence of Andy Ching
<<k锟絣l锟�> <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:


>Usually, when someone has such a radical view of the Bible and
>Christianity


You're such a false accusing liar. You're the one trying to
promote the idea God endorses homosexuality. 99.9% of the
time, three or four good, orthodox, and widely respected
commentaries state the same thing I agree with.

On 7 Jan 2007 18:38:14 -0800,


In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article

<1168223894.3...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
Subject: Re: RANDY "PULPITFIRE" YOUNG...WHY DID YOU SAY
THAT???
"*IKnowThatIAmAWhosoeverToo*" <onthe...@verizon.net>
wrote:
**************************************************************
I am a lesbian
**************************************************************


On 21 Jul 2006 11:18:48 -0700,
in article
<1153505928....@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
"Whosoever" <onthe...@verizon.net> wrote:
**************************************************************
No, the Bible does not forbid same-sex relations in a
committed, loving, monogamous relationship. It speaks of
homosexual-style rape in Genesis (but that isn't why Sodom was
destroyed), it speaks of anal-penetration in Leviticus (which
is something plenty of heterosexuals partake in), and it
speaks of same-sex temple prostitution in the New Testament.
None of these have anything to do with committed, loving,
monogamous homosexuality.
**************************************************************

On 29 Jul 2006 23:25:00 -0700,
in article
<1154240700.1...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"3Wh锟絪锟絜ver3" <onthe...@verizon.net> wrote:
**************************************************************
I never said a word about my homosexuality in these groups
until you thought you had the right to "expose" me.
**************************************************************

Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of
the city of Sodom锟絙oth young and old锟絪urrounded the house.
They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with
them." Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind
him and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.
(Genesis 19:4-7)


"'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is
detestable. (Leviticus 18:22)


If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both
of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
(Leviticus 20:13)


While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of
the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they
shouted to the old man who owned the house, "Bring out the man
who came to your house so we can have sex with him." The owner
of the house went outside and said to them, "No, my friends,
don't be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don't do this
disgraceful thing. (Judges 19:22-23)


They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped
and served created things rather than the Creator锟絯ho is
forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to
shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual
relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also
abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with
lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other
men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their
error. (Romans 1:25-27)


(1 Corinthians 6:9) Do you not know that the wicked will not
inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the
sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male
prostitutes nor homosexual offenders

We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but
for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy
and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers,
for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing
homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers. And
it is for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that
conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed
God, which he entrusted to me. (1 Timothy 1:9-11)


In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns
gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They
serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of
eternal fire. (Jude 1:7)

Jimi Alpha

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sightwalker with a phd wrote:
> Michael Christ wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is right
>>> (Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to reign in your
>>> deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
>>> sinning.
>
> Amen.
>
>> You need to receive what the Holy Spirit is prompting you and stop
>> projecting it to others, Andrew.
>
> It remains this physician's personal choice to continue to receive the
> guidance of the Holy Spirit in everything said, done, and written.
>
> HE guides this disciple of Jesus to again ask you the following
> question that you have been avoiding since your writing that you can
> physically identify Christ Jesus:

What's the time frame sightwalker? Please give a point of reference,
today, next year, when is this to be done?
Jimi Alpha

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 30, 2009, 6:26:32 PM7/30/09
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Mike McClean wrote:

> You are untrustworthy, Andrew, no matter how many times you say "Andrew, in
> the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:" and say, "Jesus is Lord".

Indeed, the only One Who is trustworthy is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Now, back to the question you have been avoiding since your writing
that you can identify Christ Jesus is the dark:

> > "Ok, there are eleven men in a night-time camp with the Messiah
> > making twelve men total and you are to walk up to Christ Jesus and hug Him
> > without saying a word to anyone.

> > How would you identify Him from among the eleven in order to go to
> > Him directly to hug Him in the dark?" -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ef704276e5821b33?

May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your


deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.

Love in the truth,

<<kêllÿ>>

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On Jul 30, 3:15 pm, Randy ® <pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >   <<kêllÿ>> <rosiebelleatrocketmail....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Usually, when someone has such a radical view of the Bible and
> >Christianity

> You're such a false accusing liar.  You're the one trying to
> promote the idea God endorses homosexuality.  

No, you're the one who insists that I am promoting "the idea God
endorses homosexuality". In so doing, it is *you* who is the "false
accusing liar".

>99.9% of the
> time, three or four good, orthodox, and widely respected
> commentaries state the same thing I agree with.

And what about all of the other "good, orthodox, and widely respected
commentaries" that *don't* state the same thing you agree with?

The fact is, you are on the fringe of Christianity with your views of
evangelism (or lack thereof) and how God wants us to hate the lost
more than love them. I know of *NO* pastors (other than Fred Phelps
and a handful of other fringe lunatics) who would agree with or
endorse the things you post here. Face it - you're not in the same
camp as the majority of "good, orthodox, and widely respected"
theologians, pastors, and ministers out there - whether they be of the
mainstream or independent denominations. No, I continue to believe
you are not a church attender, Randy - in fact, my guess is that you
have left a few in a huff and/or have been asked to leave one or
more. The Word tells us that the world will know who His disciples
are by their love. The only thing the world in Usenet knows about you
is your hatred - I'm practically certain the world outside of Usenet
knows the same about you. In fact, it would be nearly impossible for
your family to not know the same about you (or at least suspect it) -
they just don't tell you to your face.

What you demonstrate in Usenet is not the personality of a follower of
Jesus Christ - someone who can claim that they are born-again because
the old, sinful nature has passed away and are a new creation in
Christ Jesus. What you demonstrate is the personality of someone who
allows the old-nature to still have control in their life rather than
allowing Jesus to be the Lord of every part of you. What you
demonstrate is complete the opposite of Jesus Christ, Randy. What you
demonstrate is the spirit of anti-Christ.

Now, don't you have a newborn child (who was in the NICU for quite a
while after birth), two more children, and a wife with a recent
history of Postpartum Psychosis (still on medication) who all need

your attention more than Usenet? A good start at being all the Lord
wants you to be would be to start behaving as a loving and proper
husband and father, don't you think?

Leo

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Michael Christ wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung is a faux-disciple, a pretender, a person who has
> betrayed a
> trust in the same breath as saying he speaks in the Holy Spirit, and
> therefore is a disciple of Satan.
>
> Warning, do not enter into any telephone conversation with him, he is not a
> person you can trust. Beware, he tries to snare people by demanding you
> say
> to him "Jesus is Lord" on the telephone, and if you don't, he accuses
> you of
> not being a Christian. So you speak to him on the telephone and he
> betrays your personal conversation with him to others for personal gain!!!
>
> What grotesque witness!!
>
> I was fooled by him and now I feel like an idiot and violated.
>
> What a woeful and appalling witness of the Lord this 'heartless'
> cardiologist
> is, displaying the Lord Jesus in the image of an untrustworthy disgrace.
> Shame Andrew!!!
>
> Shame on you Andrew B. Chung, "HeartDoc" and provider of spiritual VEBs and
> PVCs.
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>

He's recruiting.

Michael Christ

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"ThomM" <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:9eb9c2e9-c644-4582...@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...

On Jul 30, 4:26 pm, "Michael Christ" <JesusisL...@Father.com> wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung wrote:
> > May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is right
> > (Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to reign in you
> > deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
> > sinning.
>
> You need to receive what the Holy Spirit is prompting you and stop
> projecting it to others, Andrew. The evidence is before you of a deceitful
> heart, and it resides in........your............actions.
>
> May you swallow your "HeartDoc" "I'm a Cardiologist so I am right" pride
> (futile self-approval) and see that everything you say, do and are, is
> wrong. Maybe then you can become the disciple you want to be.
>
> Michael Christ


ThomM wrote:
>Andrew suffers from the delusions of his family - when he proclaims
>his education makes him special.

>For a long time - people placed those with medical degrees - in high
>esteem simply because of the effort involved to get one - and people
>with medical degrees often use them as proof of their supposed
>"superiority" over others.

>While I believe my father has indicated that I am a doctor - I do not
>believe that he has admitted that he also has a medical degree as well
>as two other doctorates..

Seems a bit strange to me that bit. Anyway...

ThomM wrote:
>The fact is - what makes a person special is the person - not his ability
>to >memorize volumes of data. Even retarded and impaired people are able to
>do >that.

...I can agree with you here.

The world worships those who are 'intellectual' and regards those of note
who have titles. Hence, those who love to promote their titles have their
reward. Unfortunately for "HeartDoc" Andrew, once you come to know the Lord
you realise He is not a respector of persons. He looks upon the heart or,
if you prefer, the person.


Michael Christ


Michael Christ

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Faux-disciple of trustworthy Jesus!!


Michael Christ


"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:cf58a676-247a-4bb3...@w6g2000yqw.googlegroups.com...

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 30, 2009, 8:35:20 PM7/30/09
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Mike McClean wrote:

> You are untrustworthy, Andrew, no matter how many times you say "Andrew, in
> the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:" and say, "Jesus is Lord".

Indeed, the only One Who is trustworthy is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Now, back to the question you have been avoiding since your writing

that you can identify Christ Jesus in the dark:

> > "Ok, there are eleven men in a night-time camp with the Messiah
> > making twelve men total and you are to walk up to Christ Jesus and hug Him
> > without saying a word to anyone.

> > How would you identify Him from among the eleven in order to go to
> > Him directly to hug Him in the dark?" -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ef704276e5821b33?

May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.

Amen.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 30, 2009, 8:42:44 PM7/30/09
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Kelly wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > GOD does give specific gifts to specific people.  This is Scriptural.
>
> He gives specific gifts, yes - He doesn't give special
> "understandings" that contradict His Word.

What the Holy Spirit has guided this physician to write has not
contradicted Scripture:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b7e7c75e7951ecde?

Again with more than all due respect, can you, Kelly, truly say "Jesus
is LORD" with your mouth?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor

and Author of the acronym WDJW:

Michael Christ

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Jul 30, 2009, 9:04:09 PM7/30/09
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Repent Andrew.

Admit you are just a Talkster.

Become a disciple.


Michael Christ


"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:885d8b22-867d-4266...@g31g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

Jimi Alpha

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sightwalker with a phd wrote:
> Kelly wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> GOD does give specific gifts to specific people. This is Scriptural.
>> He gives specific gifts, yes - He doesn't give special
>> "understandings" that contradict His Word.
>
> What the Holy Spirit has guided this physician to write has not
> contradicted Scripture:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b7e7c75e7951ecde?
>
> Again with more than all due respect, can you, Kelly, truly say "Jesus
> is LORD" with your mouth?

Andrew, can you say, "I am sick", with any part of your body other than
with your mouth?
Jimi

Randy �

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On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:50:55 -0700 (PDT),

In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article
<1a18b7c4-e576-436d...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,

Subject: Re: The impotence of Andy Ching
<<k�ll�>> <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:


>On Jul 30, 3:15�pm, Randy � <pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

>> > � <<k�ll�>> <rosiebelleatrocketmail....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Usually, when someone has such a radical view of the Bible and
>> >Christianity
>
>> You're such a false accusing liar. �You're the one trying to
>> promote the idea God endorses homosexuality. �
>
>No, you're the one who insists that I am promoting "the idea God
>endorses homosexuality". In so doing, it is *you* who is the "false
>accusing liar".

--

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 30, 2009, 9:15:16 PM7/30/09
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Mike McClean wrote:
>
> Repent Andrew.

It remains this disciple of Jesus' choice to not turn away from his
Teacher.

> Admit you are just a Talkster.

It remains this physician's choice to continue to be mindful of WDJW
thereby continuing to think and do what GOD wants.

<<kêllÿ>>

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On Jul 30, 6:12 pm, Randy ® <pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:

>   <<kêllÿ>> <rosiebelleatrocketmail....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >No, you're the one who insists that I am promoting "the idea God
> >endorses homosexuality".  In so doing, it is *you* who is the "false
> >accusing liar".

> On 7 Jan 2007 18:38:14 -0800,
>   In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
>   Article

> <1168223894.321030.204...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,


>   Subject: Re: RANDY "PULPITFIRE" YOUNG...WHY DID YOU SAY
> THAT???

>   "*IKnowThatIAmAWhosoeverToo*" <ontheska...@verizon.net>


> wrote:
> **************************************************************
> I am a lesbian
> **************************************************************
>
> On 21 Jul 2006 11:18:48 -0700,
>  in article

> <1153505928.341106.75...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, "Whosoever" <ontheska...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> **************************************************************
> No, the Bible does not forbid same-sex relations in a
> committed, loving, monogamous relationship.  It speaks of
> homosexual-style rape in Genesis (but that isn't why Sodom was
> destroyed), it speaks of anal-penetration in Leviticus (which
> is something plenty of heterosexuals partake in), and it
> speaks of same-sex temple prostitution in the New Testament.
> None of these have anything to do with committed, loving,
> monogamous homosexuality.
> **************************************************************

Once again, can you show anywhere in any post where I have
specifically said - as you claim I have - "God endorses all
homosexuality"? I've asked you to do this before and you were unable
to do so then - will you succeed this time? Will you even try?

Michael Christ

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:0ce57d25-33f9-4f8c...@r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...

> Mike McClean wrote:
>>
>> Repent Andrew.
>
> It remains this disciple of Jesus' choice to not turn away from his
> Teacher.
>
>> Admit you are just a Talkster.
>
> It remains this physician's choice to continue to be mindful of WDJW
> thereby continuing to think and do what GOD wants.

What's being a physician got to do with it, other than to make an
'impression'?

The world might be impressed but the Lord isn't, Andrew.

Like I said, 'Talkster'.

Here's hoping you wake up, eventually.


Michael Christ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 31, 2009, 12:33:31 AM7/31/09
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Michael Christ wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Mike McClean wrote:
> >>
> >> Repent Andrew.
> >
> > It remains this disciple of Jesus' choice to not turn away from his
> > Teacher.
> >
> >> Admit you are just a Talkster.
> >
> > It remains this physician's choice to continue to be mindful of WDJW
> > thereby continuing to think and do what GOD wants.
>
> What's being a physician got to do with it, other than to make an
> 'impression'?

Physicians are not talksters.

Instead, we listen.

"Monkfish is a snake." -- Mike McClean during a phone conversation
with this physician.

"We should pray for him." -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, indicating
that this physician was listening.

"Not only would GOD have this disciple of Jesus listen to you, He
would
have me ask you questions so that there will most assuredly be
something coming from your mouth for him to listen to :-)" -- Andrew,
in the Holy Spirit, excerpt from an email that you have received from
this physician.

Leeerooy Jenkins

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Jul 31, 2009, 1:37:32 AM7/31/09
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Andrew Chung:

Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)


Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (#
being a number)


Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days


Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals


Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website


Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)


Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.


Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto
food.


Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe


Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.


Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.


Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.


Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".


Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.


Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 31, 2009, 1:58:45 AM7/31/09
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b32c5d6a93cd0ed2?

<><

"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen.

A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?

Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?

Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic (Pan-Flu) at any
time:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?

What we are teaching to prepare folks for the probable eventuality of
a deadlier Pan-Flu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

How to not be fearful:

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!

http://T3WiJ.com

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://WDJW.net

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks
the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke
24:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?

Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?

Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus
when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Jesus is LORD, forever !!!

http://JiL4ever.net

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of WDJW:

Don Kirkman

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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Thommadura wrote in article
<4a71fb02$0$22535$607e...@cv.net>:

><<k�ll�>> wrote:
>> On Jul 30, 3:40 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
>> wrote:

>>> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
>>> wrote were true.

>> Not.

>> One can have an active medical license if one doesn't have an active
>> practice, hospital admitting privileges and actual patients to freak
>> out (who would hopefully report you to your state's medical board at
>> which point your active medical license would likely be revoked).

>> Your license may be currently active, but that doesn't mean you
>> currently have an active practice.

>Indeed

>An active medical license only means that you have paid the bill for it
>- and meet the educational and testing requirements of the license itself.

I think you should have put the period right after "bill for it." With
his record of simple truth in this newsgroup I wouldn't trust anything
he says about the education requirements for renewal.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

Michael Christ

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:8bdcad25-e66d-4de4...@c1g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...

> Michael Christ wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Mike McClean wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Repent Andrew.
>> >
>> > It remains this disciple of Jesus' choice to not turn away from his
>> > Teacher.
>> >
>> >> Admit you are just a Talkster.
>> >
>> > It remains this physician's choice to continue to be mindful of WDJW
>> > thereby continuing to think and do what GOD wants.
>>
>> What's being a physician got to do with it, other than to make an
>> 'impression'?
>
> Physicians are not talksters.
>
> Instead, we listen.
>
> "Monkfish is a snake." -- Mike McClean during a phone conversation
> with this physician.
>
> "We should pray for him." -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, indicating
> that this physician was listening.

You are untrustworthy Andrew. Throw up all the smokescreens you like but
that is a fact you cannot deny. It is terrible that you now would try and
paint yourself as righteous.

Thank God for putting a hold on any further conversations until you show Him
you are prepared to listen. And thank God for protecting me from any more
of your unfaithfulness.

The amazing thing is that I told you about Monkfish to help you avoid
countless fruitless posted messages and vexation of spirit, but as always,
the being amazingly magnificent physician knows it all. You have your
reward.

Michael Christ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 31, 2009, 4:24:30 AM7/31/09
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Mike McClean wrote:

> You are untrustworthy, Andrew, no matter how many times you say "Andrew, in
> the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:" and say, "Jesus is Lord".

Indeed, the only One Who is trustworthy is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Now, back to the question you have been avoiding since your writing

Michael Christ

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Jul 31, 2009, 4:44:47 AM7/31/09
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Michael Christ wrote:
>> You are untrustworthy, Andrew, no matter how many times you say "Andrew, >> in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:" and say, "Jesus is Lord".
Andrew wrote: 

> Indeed, the only One Who is trustworthy is Jesus:
Yes, amen.  This son of God with a trustworthy Holy Spirit by the grace of God is not led to respond to the questions of a faux-disciple of trustworthy Jesus.
 
Sorry about that, corporeal demons need to show how great they are with information they conjure up in their delusions and think they can make everyone kneel before them.
 
Holy Spirit is freely given, freely give.  Unholy Spirit is, I have (nothing really) and I will keep it to show how glorious my theology is. 
 
Shame on you, Andrew B. Chung, Cardiologist of Satan. 
 
Shame!!!
 
 
Michael Christ 

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 31, 2009, 4:53:26 AM7/31/09
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Mike McClean wrote:
>
> Yes, amen. This son of God ...

Your being guided by the Spirit of error (self) indicates otherwise.

Michael Christ

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Jul 31, 2009, 5:09:26 AM7/31/09
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No-one is answerable to a faux-disciple.

Why do you ignore the fact that you betrayed me, Andrew?

Michael Christ


"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 31, 2009, 7:19:26 AM7/31/09
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Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/13bd7f30793258d2?

May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.

Amen.

Love in the truth,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
A gentile disciple of Jesus Christ
able to recognize the Messiah

even in the dark of night.

Thommadura

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Jul 31, 2009, 9:11:14 AM7/31/09
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Actually - since NO one can claim to actually KNOW anything about gods -
and PROVE they do - even YOU - then his opinions are EQUAL to yours -
since you both make up your own religion by deciding what you want to
believe and what you do not.

Thommadura

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Jul 31, 2009, 9:17:35 AM7/31/09
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Michael Christ wrote:
> Repent Andrew.
>


YOu and Monkfish miss the point - Michael

Andrew does not need to repent - he is following the tenets of his own
religion -

Just because it is NOT the same as yours does not make it wrong - unless
YOU have proof - which you do not.

YOu and monkfish both are heretics to the largest christian sects as well.

Why don't YOU repent

After all - an encylical of the catholic church is the infallible word
of god -

Pope Pius IX in an encyclical in 1854 said this:

"It must, of course, be held as a matter of faith that outside the
apostolic Roman Church no one can be saved, that the Church is the only
ark of salvation, and that whoever does not enter it will perish in the
flood."


So - you are not saved either

::: Jesus is LORD :::

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Michael, why did you you say did you phone him?


Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote in
Wafcm.8244$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au


> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message

> news:c3527f4c-283d-4f7c...@32g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>> Chuck wrote:
>>>
>>> Where have you been for the last year??? Locked in a closet?
>>>
>>> You must be the only person on earth with access to the Internet who
>>> hasn't
>>> concluded Chung is mentally ill, and should NOT be encouraged by
>>> responding
>>> to him AT ALL. The evidence is EVERYWHERE!


>
>
> Andrew wrote:
>> This physician wouldn't have an active medical license if what you
>> wrote were true.
>

>> With all due respect, can you, Chuck, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>> using your mouth?
>
> Here he goes again...
>
> What you must do now is kneel before his demand and telephone him
> post-haste or he will judge unworthy to be a Christian. Quick do it
> now before he brings down his judgment in his ummm...in
> his...holy...no...ummm...his untrustworthiness. Be careful on the
> phone because he uses what people say in confidence to him for
> personal gain.
> Say "Jesus is Lord" before him or you will go to hell because
> everyone is answerable to Andrew B. Chung, HeartDoc Cardiologist MD
> PhD.
>
>
> Michael Christ


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 31, 2009, 9:53:43 AM7/31/09
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Vera wrote:

>Michael, why did you you say did you phone him?

Mike McClean wrote that he phoned this physician because he did just
as Darren did because GOD put it in their hearts to want to say "Jesus
is LORD" for this disciple of Jesus to hear it:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BethAdonai/Darren

With all due respect, can you, Vera, truly publicly say "Jesus is
LORD" using your mouth?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of the WDJW acronym:

Jimmy Alpha

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Vera wrote:
>
>> Michael, why did you you say did you phone him?
>
> Mike McClean wrote that he phoned this physician because he did just
> as Darren did because GOD put it in their hearts to want to say "Jesus
> is LORD" for this disciple of Jesus to hear it:

After the call did you not make public personal information you gleaned
after making a trust of Michael? Andypoo is not to be trusted as he
works evil in the name of the Holy Spirit it would seem?

G. Gordon Liddy didn't talk, but he is a man.
Jimmy Alpha

<<kêllÿ>>

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On Jul 30, 10:58 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> "The lot is cast into the lap,  but its every decision is from the
> LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

I see. You're gearing up again to threaten us all with a virus
because no one here has latched onto what you say, right...?

> Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
> allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):

Yes, God allows things to happen. Yet, in the next line, you say that
God will not "allow" a Swine Flu pandemic, He will actually *cause*
("unleash") it.

Conflicted much? Guess what, Andy - God is not the author of
confusion.

> Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic (Pan-Flu) at any
> time:

God can easily do anything at anytime - if you really knew Him, you
wouldn't need a "sign" to see that.

> What we are teaching to prepare folks for the probable eventuality of
> a deadlier Pan-Flu:

Oh...I see. Since no one here is putting up with your gobbledygook,
you are now decided to threaten them with a God-caused pandemic.
Guess what, Andy - God is not your personal puppet.

> How to not be fearful:

Hilarious! You try to scare people into believing in God by scaring
them...

> It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
> want?" (WDJW):

He wants you to stop using Him as a threat.

> Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Wondering who you pray to - because from all appearances, it's not the
God of the Bible, Andy.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Kelly wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> "The lot is cast into the lap, �but its every decision is from the
>> LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
>
> I see. You're gearing up again to threaten us all with a virus
> because no one here has latched onto what you say, right...?

This physician is not the LORD.

With much more respect than is due you, can you, Kelly, truly and


publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of the WDJW acronym:

monkfish

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Jul 31, 2009, 1:16:23 PM7/31/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Kelly wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> "The lot is cast into the lap,  but its every decision is from the
>>> LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
>>
>> I see. You're gearing up again to threaten us all with a virus
>> because no one here has latched onto what you say, right...?
>
> This physician is not the LORD.


You might not even be a Christian.
But I'm not going to judge you.
Repent and sin no more.

--
monkfish

Randy �

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On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:12:25 -0700 (PDT),

In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article
<4647afc7-4fce-4bf7...@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Subject: Re: Being ever mindful of WDJW ...
<<k锟絣l锟�> <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:


>God is not the author of
>confusion.


Which is why he doesn't endorse homosexuality:

On 7 Jan 2007 18:38:14 -0800,
In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article

<1168223894.3...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,

Subject: Re: RANDY "PULPITFIRE" YOUNG...WHY DID YOU SAY
THAT???

"*IKnowThatIAmAWhosoeverToo*" <onthe...@verizon.net>


wrote:
**************************************************************
I am a lesbian
**************************************************************


On 21 Jul 2006 11:18:48 -0700,
in article

<1153505928....@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,


"Whosoever" <onthe...@verizon.net> wrote:
**************************************************************
No, the Bible does not forbid same-sex relations in a
committed, loving, monogamous relationship. It speaks of
homosexual-style rape in Genesis (but that isn't why Sodom was
destroyed), it speaks of anal-penetration in Leviticus (which
is something plenty of heterosexuals partake in), and it
speaks of same-sex temple prostitution in the New Testament.
None of these have anything to do with committed, loving,
monogamous homosexuality.
**************************************************************

On 29 Jul 2006 23:25:00 -0700,
in article
<1154240700.1...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"3Wh锟絪锟絜ver3" <onthe...@verizon.net> wrote:
**************************************************************
I never said a word about my homosexuality in these groups
until you thought you had the right to "expose" me.
**************************************************************

Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of
the city of Sodom锟絙oth young and old锟絪urrounded the house.
They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with
them." Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind
him and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.
(Genesis 19:4-7)


"'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is
detestable. (Leviticus 18:22)


If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both
of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
(Leviticus 20:13)


While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of
the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they
shouted to the old man who owned the house, "Bring out the man
who came to your house so we can have sex with him." The owner
of the house went outside and said to them, "No, my friends,
don't be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don't do this
disgraceful thing. (Judges 19:22-23)


They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped
and served created things rather than the Creator锟絯ho is
forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to
shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual
relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also
abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with
lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other
men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their
error. (Romans 1:25-27)


(1 Corinthians 6:9) Do you not know that the wicked will not
inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the
sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male
prostitutes nor homosexual offenders

We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but
for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy
and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers,
for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing
homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers. And
it is for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that
conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed
God, which he entrusted to me. (1 Timothy 1:9-11)


In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns
gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They
serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of
eternal fire. (Jude 1:7)

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Randy wrote:

> Kelly wrote:
>
>>God is not the author of confusion.
>
> Which is why he doesn't endorse homosexuality:
>
>On 7 Jan 2007 18:38:14 -0800,
> In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
> Article
><1168223894.3...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
> Subject: Re: RANDY "PULPITFIRE" YOUNG...WHY DID YOU SAY
>THAT???
> "*IKnowThatIAmAWhosoeverToo*" <onthe...@verizon.net>
>wrote:
>**************************************************************
>I am a lesbian
>**************************************************************

Both you and Kelly remain in this gentile disciple's prayers that GOD
save your respective souls because you are both unlike those of us who
are born again:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BethAdonai/Darren

With all due respect, can you, Randy, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
using your mouth?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of the WDJW acronym:

<<kêllÿ>>

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On Jul 31, 10:50 am, Randy ® <pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >   <<kêllÿ>> <rosiebelleatrocketmail....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >God is not the author of
> >confusion.

> Which is why he doesn't endorse homosexuality:

Again, I've never said that God endorses all homosexuality. You keep
avoiding my request for you to prove I've ever said otherwise - why is
that? Here, let me repost what I wrote yesterday (just in case you've
forgotten):

************************************************
Once again, can you show anywhere in any post where I have
specifically said - as you claim I have - "God endorses all
homosexuality"? I've asked you to do this before and you were unable
to do so then - will you succeed this time? Will you even try?

************************************************

Still waiting for your reply to this, Randy...

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 31, 2009, 2:31:16 PM7/31/09
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monkfish wrote:
>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Kelly wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> "The lot is cast into the lap, �but its every decision is from the
>>>> LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
>>>
>>> I see. You're gearing up again to threaten us all with a virus
>>> because no one here has latched onto what you say, right...?
>>
>> This physician is not the LORD.
>
> You might not even be a Christian.

Your writing that is consistent with your not being a Christian
especially writing that after having viewed this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc

Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying
post-haste:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5e6521c2c36406ce?

There is true joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) and would come to trust the truth, Who is
Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

::: Jesus is LORD :::

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TROLL OFF!!!


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote in
onc675t46b03s96se...@4ax.com

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 31, 2009, 3:42:49 PM7/31/09
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Vera wrote:

>TROLL OFF!!!

With all due respect, can you, Vera, truly publicly say "Jesus is
LORD" using your mouth?

Ralph can:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BethAdonai/Ralph

and so can Darren:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BethAdonai/Darren

Others are welcome to show Vera how the Holy Spirit helps them say
"Jesus is LORD" with their mouths.

The voicemail is accessible via the number listed at the bottom of the
following web site:

http://WDJW.net

(If being caller ID'd is an issue there is always *67 before dialing)

monkfish

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Jul 31, 2009, 3:47:51 PM7/31/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> monkfish wrote:
>>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Kelly wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "The lot is cast into the lap,  but its every decision is from the
>>>>> LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
>>>>
>>>> I see. You're gearing up again to threaten us all with a virus
>>>> because no one here has latched onto what you say, right...?
>>>
>>> This physician is not the LORD.
>>
>> You might not even be a Christian.
>
> Your writing that is consistent with your not being a Christian
> especially writing that after having viewed this:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc


Even without bothering to view it,
I can tell you clearly have a peculiar idea
about what it means to be a Christian.
If you say "Jesus is Lord" while raping,
does that mean you are not a rapist?

--
monkfish

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 31, 2009, 3:54:58 PM7/31/09
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monkfish wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> monkfish wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Kelly wrote:
>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "The lot is cast into the lap, �but its every decision is from the
>>>>>> LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
>>>>>
>>>>> I see. You're gearing up again to threaten us all with a virus
>>>>> because no one here has latched onto what you say, right...?
>>>>
>>>> This physician is not the LORD.
>>>
>>> You might not even be a Christian.
>>
>> Your writing that is consistent with your not being a Christian
>> especially writing that after having viewed this:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc
>
> Even without bothering to view it,
> I can tell you clearly have a peculiar idea
> about what it means to be a Christian.

What good is being called a Christian if you still end up losing your
soul?

Suggested viewing in hopes of rectifying your lack of understanding:

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven

Suggested reading in hopes of same:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/JesusChrist

Randy �

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On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:26:50 -0700 (PDT),

In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article
<63dd0502-0df0-483f...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,

Subject: Re: Being ever mindful of WDJW ...
<<k�ll�>> <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:


>On Jul 31, 10:50�am, Randy � <pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

>> > � <<k�ll�>> <rosiebelleatrocketmail....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >God is not the author of
>> >confusion.
>
>> Which is why he doesn't endorse homosexuality:
>
>Again, I've never said that God endorses all homosexuality.

--

Thommadura

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Randy � wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:12:25 -0700 (PDT),
> In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
> Article
> <4647afc7-4fce-4bf7...@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> Subject: Re: Being ever mindful of WDJW ...
> <<k�ll�>> <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> God is not the author of
>> confusion.
>
>
> Which is why he doesn't endorse homosexuality:


How would YOU know that one?

Michael Christ

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" ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <vera...@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:7dg9c6F...@mid.individual.net...

> Michael, why did you you say did you phone him?

Yes.

I had compassion on him.

Still have.

The Lord showed me a few things. One was a reminder that we are people
talking to people, not just keyboards banging. Another is patience.
Another is trust...in Him. Another, as always though, the nature of the
spirit of this world.

A nice black dress would go on you quite well I think, Vera, showing a big
of leg (modestly), with a jacket and a colourful scarf.


Michael Christ

Michael Christ

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"Thommadura" <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:4a72ee04$0$10309$607e...@cv.net...

Thank you for that Thommadura.

I will take what you say and ummm...I'll.....ummmm....well nothing
really....
errr....well...it...goes......ummmm......well....nowhere, actually.

Which is where you are Thommadura.

What was your name again sorry, must have missed it.


Michael Christ

monkfish

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Jul 31, 2009, 7:13:59 PM7/31/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> monkfish wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> Kelly wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The lot is cast into the lap,  but its every decision is from the
>>>>>>> LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see. You're gearing up again to threaten us all with a virus
>>>>>> because no one here has latched onto what you say, right...?
>>>>>
>>>>> This physician is not the LORD.
>>>>
>>>> You might not even be a Christian.
>>>
>>> Your writing that is consistent with your not being a Christian
>>> especially writing that after having viewed this:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc
>>
>> Even without bothering to view it,
>> I can tell you clearly have a peculiar idea
>> about what it means to be a Christian.
>
> What good is being called a Christian if you still end up losing your
> soul?


Are you worried about losing your soul a lot?
Do you even know what a soul is?

--
monkfish

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Not at all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc

This is what it means to be a true Christian:

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven

Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
haste:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5e6521c2c36406ce?

There is joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and

Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor

and Author of the acronym WDJW:

monkfish

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Jul 31, 2009, 7:50:36 PM7/31/09
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If you shout "Jesus is Lord"
when you murder innocent people,
you are not a murderer, is that it?
Are you a suicide bomber?

--
monkfish

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Would still end up in heaven even if electrocuted for the crime not
because of shouting "Jesus is LORD" but because of being born again of
water and Spirit (John 3:5 referring to Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26)
thereby a new creature in Christ Jesus.

monkfish

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Such a superstitious mind!
You don't believe in miracles;
you believe in magic.

--
monkfish

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Thommadura

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YOu posted my name and then missed it - you have mental problems

Michael Christ

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"Thommadura" <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:4a74254e$0$10298$607e...@cv.net...

So if you don't understand, that person has mental problems.

Classic.

That is why you won't see God....ego, self-glory, self-worship.

Is it Cyril Thommadura?

Or Cecil Thommadura? Or just Thommadura the Great?

Michael Christ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 1, 2009, 8:47:51 AM8/1/09
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Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/13bd7f30793258d2?

May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is right

(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your

deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.

Amen.

Love in the truth,

HeartDoc Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

A gentile disciple of Jesus Christ
able to recognize the Messiah
even in the dark of night.

ThomM

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Aug 1, 2009, 12:04:35 PM8/1/09
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On Aug 1, 7:36 am, "Michael Christ" <JesusisL...@Father.com> wrote:
> "Thommadura" <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote in message

>
> news:4a74254e$0$10298$607e...@cv.net...
>
>
>
> > Michael Christ wrote:
>
> >> "Thommadura" <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote in message

> >>news:4a72ee04$0$10309$607e...@cv.net...
> >>> Michael Christ wrote:
>
> >>>> "ThomM" <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote in message

Oh - - you have a god to actually see

By all means - post a picture - !!!

>
> Is it Cyril Thommadura?
>
> Or Cecil Thommadura?  Or just Thommadura the Great?
>
> Michael Christ


Funny Michael

Since the beginning of the internet - users made their ID's out of a
combination of their first and last names. Virtually everyone in this
group - including monkfish and Andrew - were able to figure that out
from my father;s and my id.

OH - dear - sorry - that would require you to have some small level of
intelligence - my mistake!!!!

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