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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD  
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 More options Jul 29 2006, 5:57 pm
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.bible, alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.christnet.evangelical, aus.religion.christian, sci.med.cardiology
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com>
Date: 29 Jul 2006 14:57:41 -0700
Local: Sat, Jul 29 2006 5:57 pm
Subject: Heart made discerning by the Holy Spirit.
Werner -the Christian Agnostic- Kurator wrote:

> Andrew wrote:
> > Werner -the Christian Agnostic- Kurator wrote:
> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:

> >> > (1) The third day, there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee.

> >> Third day counted from when?

> > When John witnessed that the Holy Spirit had come down from
> > heaven to settle on LORD Jesus Christ and gave the following
> > testimony:

> > "I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain
> > on HIM.  I would not have known HIM, except that the ONE who
> > sent me to baptize with water told me, 'The Man on whom you
> > see the Spirit come down and remain is HE who will baptize
> > with the Holy Spirit.' I have seen and I testify that this is
> > the Son of GOD." (John 1:32-34)

> Ahem Andrew :-)

Watch and wonder, Werner.

Don't blink.

GOD is amazing :-)

Laus Deo !

> Mark 1

>   10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the
>   heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon
>   him:

>   11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my
>   beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

>   12 And immediately the Spirit driveth him into the wilderness.

>   13 And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of
>   Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered
>   unto him.

> Andrew,  you run with full speed into the open knife, like I
> suspected somebody would do.

Thankfully, GOD has given me HIS armor.  Your open knife has been
shattered to bits as if it were an icicle that has found itself in 110
degrees ambient temp.

> In fact the Gospel of John is the
> least *trustworthy* when it comes to the times *when* events
> took place... Notice that at the wedding at Cana Jesus already
> had his disciples there, so it must have been more then 40 days
> after Jesus was baptized...

Indeed, It was more than 40 days after Jesus' baptism with water by
John the Baptist but only three days after the public testimony by John
the Baptist concerning Jesus' divinity. The Holy Spirit guides me to
write that John the Baptist was compelled by HIM not to make the public
testimony until **after** Jesus resisted satan's temptations **after**
fasting for 40 days and nights in the desert.  Moreover, the Holy
Spirit led John to leave out of his public testimony his role in
baptizing Jesus with water and HIS temptation by satan in the desert
because these detracted from the message that Jesus is the divine Son
of GOD.

> So by all accounts this would have been more then 40 days
> later... at least *43* :-)

Correct.

> Maybe some translating error along
> the way crept in.... :-(

No.  The error is one of misinterpretation on your part which
invariably happens when folks are trying to understand the Bible
without the counsel of the Holy Spirit.

> Speaking about the Holy Spirit.....

> About John the Baptist:

> Luke 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and
> shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be
> filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

> This is John *speaking* :

> John 1:31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made
> manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.

> Now Andrew was John at that time no longer filled with the Holy
> Ghost, that John/t/Baptist didn't know *WHO* Christ was?

The Holy Ghost is not an ability conferred upon folks but GOD Himself.
It is written that GOD may choose to hide from us, covering us with HIS
hand as HE passes by so that we don't see HIS face.

> <grin from ear to ear>

I suspect you are no longer grinning now that you have learned
something that you know could have only come from the Holy Spirit.

> 30 years starting even in the womb, prior to his start of his
> mission John was supposedly filled with the "Holy Spirit" and
> yet he didn't know Christ, and *NEEDED A SIGN* from heaven...

It is clear that you don't recognize that the Holy Spirit is GOD.
Being filled with the Holy Spirit does not mean we are given omniscent
minds but discerning hearts so that we may be guided by HIM and not
stray from HIS infinite will.  Through the Holy Spirit, we know what HE
deems we need to know and not what we think we need to know.

> <bigger grin>

It is my hope that your grinning is now arising from a discerning heart
rather than from a wicked mind.

> >> > Jesus' mother was there. (2) Jesus also was invited, with
> >> > his disciples, to the marriage. (3) When the wine ran out,
> >> > Jesus' mother said to him, "They have no wine." (4) Jesus
> >> > said to her, "Woman, what does that have to do with you and
> >> > me? My hour has not yet come." (5) His mother said to the
> >> > servants, "Whatever he says to you, do it."

> >> Isn't this interesting, Mary before Jesus got into the
> >> action, told them to follow the instructions Jesus would
> >> later give them? How could she have known that Jesus had some
> >> powers?

> > The Holy Spirit gave her that knowledge.

> Yet John didn't know who Christ was.....

GOD's choice.

> >> After all she acted in anticipation that Jesus would do
> >> something special.

> >> Is this the point your getting at?

> > Possibly.

> <cut John 2:1-11 WEB>

> >> So this was Jesus *first* sign, and yet before he performed
> >> it Mary could give instructions...

> > Such is the power and the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

> Yet John/t/Baptist didn't know who Christ, in spite filled with
> the Holy Spirit? So that God had to sent his spirit....

> :-)

See above.

Still praying for you, dear agnostic neighbor Werner.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

Message for the wolves in sheepskin:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4f43855be1cfa795?
or
http://tinyurl.com/povfe (awaiting the continued frantic foot-stomping
antics of the anti-christ)

Message for my brethren:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7bff7f0b57577900?
or
http://tinyurl.com/ng62u (expecting the anti-christ to eventually have
a coronary here)

Message for the anti-christ, who serves satan:
LORD GOD Almighty is the Source of all intelligence, which clearly HE
has dialed down in your case since you seem unable to realize that HE
has given me the stamina to outlast you.


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