> So Andrew thinks that Jesus found his disciples in the
> time-span of "three" days.

> >> Speaking about the Holy Spirit.....

> >> About John the Baptist:

> >> Luke 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and
> >> shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be
> >> filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

> >> This is John *speaking* :

> >> John 1:31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made
> >> manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.

> >> Now Andrew was John at that time no longer filled with the
> >> Holy Ghost, that John/t/Baptist didn't know *WHO* Christ was?
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> in <1154210261.121192.25...@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
> on  2006-07-29 announced this statement:
> > The Holy Ghost is not an ability conferred upon folks but GOD
> > Himself.  It is written that GOD may choose to hide from us,
> > covering us with HIS hand as HE passes by so that we don't see
> > HIS face.

> Moses at the time he supposedly received the tablets of stone,
> but I stray...

> Luke 2

>   25 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was
>   Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the
>   consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him.

>   26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he
>   should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.

>   27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the
>   parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the
>   custom of the law,

>  2 Peter 1:21
>  For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: But
>  holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

> Now here is a instance in which the *Holy Spirit* reveals the
> identity of Christ to a person who would not be around 30 years
> later... Was it done just that 2000 years later we have a nice
> story to tell...

> If I could be grinning wider, I would :-)

> > It is clear that you don't recognize that the Holy Spirit is
> > GOD.  Being filled with the Holy Spirit does not mean we are
> > given omniscent minds but discerning hearts so that we may be
> > guided by HIM and not stray from HIS infinite will.  Through
> > the Holy Spirit, we know what HE deems we need to know and not
> > what we think we need to know.

> Lets not loose the focus, Andrew I am not talking about us, I'm
> talking about John/t/Baptist *NOT* knowing who Christ is, and
> that he needed a sign.

>   2 Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ,
>   he sent two of his disciples,

>   3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we
>   look for another?

>   4 Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again
>   those things which ye do hear and see:

> > It is my hope that your grinning is now arising from a discerning heart
> > rather than from a wicked mind.

> That you think bad about people Andrew....

> >> >> > Jesus' mother was there. (2) Jesus also was invited, with
> >> >> > his disciples, to the marriage. (3) When the wine ran out,
> >> >> > Jesus' mother said to him, "They have no wine." (4) Jesus
> >> >> > said to her, "Woman, what does that have to do with you and
> >> >> > me? My hour has not yet come." (5) His mother said to the
> >> >> > servants, "Whatever he says to you, do it."

> >> >> Isn't this interesting, Mary before Jesus got into the
> >> >> action, told them to follow the instructions Jesus would
> >> >> later give them? How could she have known that Jesus had some
> >> >> powers?

> >> > The Holy Spirit gave her that knowledge.

> >> Yet John didn't know who Christ was.....

> > GOD's choice.

> Hilarious, Andrew is this the best you can come up with?

>   7 And as they departed, Jesus began to say unto the multitudes
>   concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness to see?
>   A reed shaken with the wind?

>   8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft
>   raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings'
>   houses.

>   9 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto
>   you, and more than a prophet.

>   10 For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my
>   messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before
>   thee.

>   11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women
>   there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist:
>   notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is
>   greater than he.

> Above Jesus tells the listeners that John was a prophet, now
> what was the *greatest* prophetic message John could have spread:

> "Listen Oh Israel, the Messiah is here". But if one reads the
> Gospel of John, then he *testified* to Jesus one time.

>   12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom
>   of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by
>   force.

>   13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

>   14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to
>   come.

>  Yet John denied being it. (John 1:19-21