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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 16, 2008, 2:11:25 PM9/16/08
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"Our findings are consistent with the hypothesized role of visceral
fat as a unique, pathogenic fat depot."

Source:

http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/116/1/39

Thus, it remains smarter to simply and freely eat less, down to the
right amount in order to lose the VAT and possibly cure hypertension
and/or type-2 diabetes:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0?

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1a812afc784ae683?

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Sep 16, 2008, 2:14:55 PM9/16/08
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i'm sorry that your life is so sad ,
that you seek constant attention much the way a 3 year old child does

Cary Kittrell

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Sep 16, 2008, 2:37:04 PM9/16/08
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In article <d5e1e2ff-b92a-490c...@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> writes:
> "Our findings are consistent with the hypothesized role of visceral
> fat as a unique, pathogenic fat depot."
>
> Source:
>
> http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/116/1/39

One journal citation; good, good...

>
> Thus, it remains smarter to simply and freely eat less, down to the
> right amount in order to lose the VAT and possibly cure hypertension
> and/or type-2 diabetes:

Second journal citation:

-- cary

anon...@nowhere.you.know

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Sep 16, 2008, 3:31:45 PM9/16/08
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"Our findings are consistent with the hypothesized role of visceral
fat as a unique, pathogenic fat depot."

snip

"Thus, it remains smarter to simply and freely eat less, down to the
right amount in order to lose the VAT and possibly cure hypertension
and/or type-2 diabetes:"

Vat is found in all people. It produces hormones related to normal
metabolism. Excess vat produces an excess of some hormones which can
have a
deleterious effect. This is of what the first part above speaks, not
normal
vat levels.

The second part is a logical non sequitur. The development of these
disorders is the end product of a complex interplay of many factors, not
a
single source such as excess vat hormones. Reducing weight and vat into
the normal range again does not remove the several problems underlying
these disorders that happened during their development.

When a diabetic loses weight and vat into normal ranges the 50 percent
and
more of beta cell loss is not changed. While many symptoms can be
sometimes greatly improved that loss remains and the underlying diabetes
state likewise as a simple glucose test would instantly show. There is
no
cure.

Cary Kittrell

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Sep 16, 2008, 3:42:53 PM9/16/08
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In article <d5e1e2ff-b92a-490c...@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> writes:

As contrasted with good, or as it is sometimes called, "outside", fat.


-- cary

Rod

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Sep 16, 2008, 3:56:35 PM9/16/08
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> "Our findings are consistent with the hypothesized role of visceral
> fat as a unique, pathogenic fat depot."
>

Your head has a lot of black fat doing nothing but holding your ears
apart.....

you lard brain...


--
"And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be
forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against Andrew B. Chung will not
be forgiven."

Don Kirkman

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Sep 16, 2008, 7:29:54 PM9/16/08
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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article
<d5e1e2ff-b92a-490c...@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>:

>"Our findings are consistent with the hypothesized role of visceral
>fat as a unique, pathogenic fat depot."

>Source:

>http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/116/1/39

>Thus, it remains smarter to simply and freely eat less, down to the
>right amount in order to lose the VAT and possibly cure hypertension
>and/or type-2 diabetes:

This would be consistent with the hypothesized effectiveness of simple
reduction in food intake as the effective method of losing VAT and the
hypothesized belief that VAT is the sole root of hypertension and
type-2 diabetes.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

Cary Kittrell

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Sep 16, 2008, 7:37:54 PM9/16/08
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Would the first branch of that be similar to the way I've lost
23 pounds in the past fifty days by keeping my caloric intake to 1200
a day or less?

`cause I heard somewhere or other that the calories had been
discerned to be "immeasurable".

It's a wonder, that's what it is...


-- cary

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 17, 2008, 3:35:05 AM9/17/08
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convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > "Our findings are consistent with the hypothesized role of visceral
> > fat as a unique, pathogenic fat depot."
>
> > Source:
>
> > http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/116/1/39
>
> > Thus, it remains smarter to simply and freely eat less, down to the
> > right amount in order to lose the VAT and possibly cure hypertension
> > and/or type-2 diabetes:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?

>
> This would be consistent with the hypothesized effectiveness of simple
> reduction in food intake as the effective method of losing VAT and the
> hypothesized belief that VAT is the sole root of hypertension and
> type-2 diabetes.

"The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to
the discerning." (Proverbs 14:6)

Bottom line concering your difficulties here:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b09fe2cd7fceefc8?

May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a

%

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Sep 17, 2008, 3:40:51 AM9/17/08
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did you know that you look really sad ,
when you post things that look like a 3 year old child ,
that is starved for attention , i'm sorry that ,
your life is like that and usenet makes you do this ,
would you like a cold cloth on your forehead


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 17, 2008, 1:39:29 PM9/17/08
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convicted neighbor % wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/097e54fa64ae0a29?

Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your delusions, which
are symptoms of a dying soul.

May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to be
mindful of WDJW by praying for your perishing soul, dear %:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/13497233ce5242cd?

Don Kirkman

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Sep 17, 2008, 7:49:55 PM9/17/08
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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article
<91679128-cabd-4a6f...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>:

>convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>> > Thus, it remains smarter to simply and freely eat less, down to the
>> > right amount in order to lose the VAT and possibly cure hypertension
>> > and/or type-2 diabetes:

>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?

>> This would be consistent with the hypothesized effectiveness of simple
>> reduction in food intake as the effective method of losing VAT and the
>> hypothesized belief that VAT is the sole root of hypertension and
>> type-2 diabetes.

>"The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to
>the discerning." (Proverbs 14:6)

Let's use the original, then we can discuss it:

"A scoffer seeks wisdom in vain, but knowledge is easy for a man of
understanding."

Okay then. Yes, in this case I am scoffing, mocking you. But
"understanding" is not "discernment," even in your favorite Websters
dictionary. Nor is "discernment" some ghostly perception but an
ability to analyze and weigh matters rationally and arrive at a
supportable conclusion. I have always been pretty good at
understanding and adding to my store of knowledge. But, as Proverbs
says, I find no wisdom in your delusional writings, mocker though I
may be.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

Truth

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Sep 17, 2008, 8:38:55 PM9/17/08
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On Sep 17, 12:35 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>
>
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > "Our findings are consistent with the hypothesized role of visceral
> > > fat as a unique, pathogenic fat depot."
>
> > > Source:
>
> > >http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/116/1/39
>
> > > Thus, it remains smarter to simply and freely eat less, down to the
> > > right amount in order to lose the VAT and possibly cure hypertension
> > > and/or type-2 diabetes:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
>
> > This would be consistent with the hypothesized effectiveness of simple
> > reduction in food intake as the effective method of losing VAT and the
> > hypothesized belief that VAT is the sole root of hypertension and
> > type-2 diabetes.
>
> "The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to
> the discerning." (Proverbs 14:6)
>
<snip chung dung>

Right back atcha, Chung: "A truthful witness does not deceive, but a
false witness pours out lies." (Proverbs 14:5)

Chung is a false witness.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 18, 2008, 2:45:46 AM9/18/08
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convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> > Thus, it remains smarter to simply and freely eat less, down to the
> >> > right amount in order to lose the VAT and possibly cure hypertension
> >> > and/or type-2 diabetes:
>
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
>
> >> This would be consistent with the hypothesized effectiveness of simple
> >> reduction in food intake as the effective method of losing VAT and the
> >> hypothesized belief that VAT is the sole root of hypertension and
> >> type-2 diabetes.
>
> >"The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to
> >the discerning." (Proverbs 14:6)
>
> Let's use the original, then we can discuss it:
>
> "A scoffer seeks wisdom in vain, but knowledge is easy for a man of
> understanding."

The "original" was not written in English.

Moreover, "a man of understanding" is equivalent to "a discerning
man."

The discerning are people who understand.

Bottom line concerning your lack of understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b09fe2cd7fceefc8?

<><

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1a812afc784ae683?

Don Kirkman

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Sep 18, 2008, 2:08:30 PM9/18/08
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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article
<21f5beaa-d033-4f14...@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>:

>convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>> >"The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to
>> >the discerning." (Proverbs 14:6)

>> Let's use the original, then we can discuss it:

>> "A scoffer seeks wisdom in vain, but knowledge is easy for a man of
>> understanding."

>The "original" was not written in English.

The original passage you used certainly was written in English.
Obviously you have no free will to quote accurately from your sources,
having the compulsive need to change words in an attempt to support
your delusional ideas.

>Moreover, "a man of understanding" is equivalent to "a discerning
>man."

>The discerning are people who understand.

I pointed out that Websters begs to differ. Discernment is a power of
discrimination, not a power to know facts per se. Discernment as you
use seems to be either a brainwave spasm or an intangible power
passing secret messages.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 18, 2008, 3:58:53 PM9/18/08
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convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/097e54fa64ae0a29?

> >> >
> >> >"The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to
> >> >the discerning." (Proverbs 14:6)
>
> >> Let's use the original, then we can discuss it:
>
> >> "A scoffer seeks wisdom in vain, but knowledge is easy for a man of
> >> understanding."
>
> >The "original" was not written in English.
>
> The original passage you used certainly was written in English.

Incorrect.

The English language did not exist at the time of King Solomon.

Truth is simple.

Bottom line concerning your lack of discernment:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b09fe2cd7fceefc8?

<><

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?

Cary Kittrell

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Sep 18, 2008, 4:34:31 PM9/18/08
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In article <8b3e993b-f198-485f...@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> writes:
> convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/097e54fa64ae0a29?
> > >> >
> > >> >"The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to
> > >> >the discerning." (Proverbs 14:6)
> >
> > >> Let's use the original, then we can discuss it:
> >
> > >> "A scoffer seeks wisdom in vain, but knowledge is easy for a man of
> > >> understanding."
> >
> > >The "original" was not written in English.
> >
> > The original passage you used certainly was written in English.
>
> Incorrect.
>
> The English language did not exist at the time of King Solomon.

And neither did your post -- which those of us able to
discern plain meanings in everyday English knew Don was
referring to.

>
> Truth is simple.

Which makes it harder for to you get away undetected when you try
to twist it.

( hey! wouldn't this be a nice spot for a "It remains my choice..."
et cetera bit? }


-- cary

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 18, 2008, 8:54:43 PM9/18/08
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convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/097e54fa64ae0a29?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to
> > > >> > the discerning." (Proverbs 14:6)
> > >
> > > >> Let's use the original, then we can discuss it:
> > >
> > > >> "A scoffer seeks wisdom in vain, but knowledge is easy for a man of
> > > >> understanding."
> > >
> > > >The "original" was not written in English.
> > >
> > > The original passage you used certainly was written in English.
> >
> > Incorrect.
> >
> > The English language did not exist at the time of King Solomon.
>
> And neither did your post

Did not write that what the Holy Spirit guided me to write was the
"original" Proverbs 14:6,

Bottom line concerning your difficulties here:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/773bdee360f7775e?

<><

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1a812afc784ae683?

Cary Kittrell

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Sep 18, 2008, 9:13:50 PM9/18/08
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In article <8c7aee2e-77ab-4cbc...@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> writes:
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > >convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/097e54fa64ae0a29?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > "The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to
> > > > >> > the discerning." (Proverbs 14:6)
> > > >
> > > > >> Let's use the original, then we can discuss it:
> > > >
> > > > >> "A scoffer seeks wisdom in vain, but knowledge is easy for a man of
> > > > >> understanding."
> > > >
> > > > >The "original" was not written in English.
> > > >
> > > > The original passage you used certainly was written in English.
> > >
> > > Incorrect.
> > >
> > > The English language did not exist at the time of King Solomon.
> >
> > And neither did your post
>
> Did not write that what the Holy Spirit guided me to write was the
> "original" Proverbs 14:6,

Did not write that you did.

>
> Bottom line concerning your difficulties here:

Want some help with that beam?


-- cary

>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/773bdee360f7775e?
>
> <><
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1a812afc784ae683?


baba

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"Rod" <kc0...@att.net> wrote in message
news:dcUzk.539$Ws1...@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...

> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> "Our findings are consistent with the hypothesized role of visceral
>> fat as a unique, pathogenic fat depot."
>>
>
> Your head has a lot of black fat doing nothing but holding your ears
> apart.....
>
> you lard brain...

>>>------------------->
Rod, just curious, did you read the cited article?

*¿*

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 18, 2008, 10:31:12 PM9/18/08
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convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > >convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/097e54fa64ae0a29?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > "The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to
> > > > > >> > the discerning." (Proverbs 14:6)
> > > > >
> > > > > >> Let's use the original, then we can discuss it:
> > > > >
> > > > > >> "A scoffer seeks wisdom in vain, but knowledge is easy for a man of
> > > > > >> understanding."
> > > > >
> > > > > >The "original" was not written in English.
> > > > >
> > > > > The original passage you used certainly was written in English.
> > > >
> > > > Incorrect.
> > > >
> > > > The English language did not exist at the time of King Solomon.
> > >
> > > And neither did your post
> >
> > Did not write that what the Holy Spirit guided me to write was the
> > "original" Proverbs 14:6,
>
> Did not write that you did.

Not for the discerning.

> > Bottom line concerning your difficulties here:
> >

> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/773bdee360f7775e?


>
> Want some help with that beam?

Already have had GOD's help to remove mine.

Clearly you still need His help to remove yours.

Sadly you won't have His help until you surrender by publicly
declaring with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d

In the interim, may we who are Christians (either Jew or gentile),


continue to be mindful of WDJW by praying for your perishing soul,

dear Cary:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5c7bedfac3f61358?

Truth

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Sep 18, 2008, 10:35:06 PM9/18/08
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On Sep 18, 7:31 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>

Although we're literally on the same page, I don't think we're all on
the same page about beams and from where they might have been
removed. ;-)

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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