"Music radio is going to be in trouble."
So said radio talker and Fox News host Sean Hannity this week at
Arbitron's consultant fly-in.
"In five years when every car has an iPod connection and you can
listen to anything you want, what is music radio going to do?"
I have long argued (and many others have likewise taken up the cause)
that what's between the records becomes more, not less, important as
our sound-alike competition multiplies and new channels of
distribution make their way into home, work, and car - populated by
content that is not owned, produced, sold, licensed, or monetized by
anyone in the radio industry.
Sean is dead right on this point.
Within five years we'll see diminishing ratings on sound-alike music-
oriented FM's. And radio will enter a new age of non-music
programming.
Not necessarily talk. But not particularly music.
The spoils will go to those who create the experiments now. While it's
fine for our industry to reward the successes of those who do the
obvious and succeed, shouldn't we also reward those who take the kinds
of chances that are necessary for the long-term vitality of radio?
The AM radio style of political talk is only one facet of what will
fast become a burgeoning trend towards non-music.
An aside...
I had never seen Sean in the flesh before and I found him fascinating.
Primarily because of his pen. On Fox News, that pen never leaves his
right hand. You can see him waving it madly - as if it's the trigger
for the Liberal ejector seat. And here he was, holding that pen (the
same one?) throughout his entire presentation at Arbitron - never
writing a word. I watched him stroll out, sure that he'd leave the pen
behind since walking is rarely improved by note-taking. But would you
believe that he not only traveled with pen in hand - he even shook
hands with it! He was giving pen-shakes! Who does that!? Please don't
sign me when you greet me, okay?
Sean, put....the pen....down.
Just an aside.
I was right, you asshole Eduardo!
> Sean Hannity's warning for music-oriented Radio
>
> "Music radio is going to be in trouble."
>
> So said radio talker and Fox News host Sean Hannity this week at
> Arbitron's consultant fly-in.
>
> "In five years when every car has an iPod connection and you can
> listen to anything you want, what is music radio going to do?"
< Snip >
My car has a AM/FM/CD player. Sometimes I listen to CD's and other times
music on the radio. Generally It's AM talk, FM music, PBS news or music
CD's. If I had an IPOD I don't see this changing much. What I would
really like to have is a CD player that works with MP3. I would use my
computer to put more music on a disk.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Commercial music radio can't go away quickly enough.
NPR, not PBS.
Pocket -I B OC'D- Radio - You Ain't No Sean Hannity !
-and- You are about as Informing and Interesting
-wrt- the topic of Shortwave Radio as d'Eduardo. ~ RHF
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At times, I will switch from music MP3 discs to some sort of recorded
audio, perhaps an old radio drama show, or perhaps a speech that
someone gave about a topic of interest to me.
However, there are times in the day when I will listen to either AM
radio or FM radio. My listening habbits on AM radio include late
evening DXing. I love checking out what sort of propagation might be
occuring during different times between pre-dusk through about
midnight, or early morning during power changes. And with that DX, I
hope to hear something of the local events so that I might better
grasp what the world around me is experiencing, or at least
reporting. Or, I'll listen to the AM local stations, as I am
interested in local news and weather.
When I switch to FM, and here's the point of my post, I hope to catch
new music, so I can know what new material might be coming out in some
genre. And, I also get a taste of what the local music scene is
doing, in whatever genre.
I agree with the others who hold the opinion that commercial FM will
survive best if the playlists would move away from mindless rotations
of mainstream offerings, and move more toward exposure of less-known
and newer excursions into developing musical talent and new offshoots
of a genre.
I think AM radio will struggle if it continues to offer the same few
syndicated shows on (what appears to be) 70 percent of the nation's
stations. For me, it is a tedious endeavor to tune through the band
from edge to edge only to hear the same show from frequency to
frequency. So little choice in programming. That's like having 60
channels on TV, with a high percentage of those channels offering the
exact same show. (Click... click... click... click. Man, can there
be anything else on except for this late-night "black helicopters have
been hovering around our town, lately" show?) Why must we be
subjected to hearing such a small selection, no matter where we tune
on the AM dial, during the peak DX hours? I'd love to hear more
locally produced shows. Local shows about local events, interests,
people--that would be more community-service oriented. In my
thinking, that would also be more locally supported financially.
Could it be that major national companies that can offer bigger
advertisement budgets shape the programming choices? The landscape
has really changed over the course of radio's history.
Is that why low-power FM appears so attractive to many communities? I
know of one community in Washington state that is working hard to get
one such station on the air. They've been jumping through a lot of
hoops. They are still not on the air... but the hope is that they can
offer real local talent, local production, and local interest.
While driving, I tend to bring my own musical entertainment or spoken
word by way of MP3 discs, radio still plays a central role in my
current listening habbits. Radio would play a more significant role,
however, if the trend on radio moved ever more toward to local
interests, and to newer talent and offerings. Radio can still be "red
hot."
- NW7US
contributing editor, PopComm, CQ, CQ VHF
I do most of my MW listening late-nite.
The ONLY music stations I receive are from Mexico. !
<rj>
There is no profit to be made selling canned music. It is freely
available and it belongs to everyone.
Then, there's no profit in selling ( commercial ) radio either.
It's freely available, and belongs to everyone.
<rj>
The point is that radio needs compelling exclusive content. Canned
music is not the killer app.
- The point is that radio needs compelling exclusive content.
- Canned music is not the killer app.
David,
AM Mono 'Canned' Music in the 1940s was a "Killer App".
FM Stereo 'Canned' Music in the 1970s was a "Killer App".
iPod Personalized Digital Stereo 'Canned' Music in the 2000s
is a "Killer App". A Music Library in the Palm of your Hand.
-BUT- Most AM/FM "Music" Radio Stations offer more than
just Music in their All Music Formats; and this 'extra'
Content for many Listeners makes AM/FM Radio the preferred
'choice' of many Listeners - Who Choose Radio.
"The Extras" Make AM/FM Radio Music Formats Better Than An iPod
The Extras : News + Weather + Traffic + Info + Stuff
yes i heard it on the 'free' over-the-air radio ~ RHF
.
Who still does news?
The weather is obvious.
The same spots get congested every day.
Now if a station decided to do real news I'd listen.
- Who still does news?
Most AM & FM Radio Stations still "Do-the-News"
in some form or fashion.
- The weather is obvious.
DOH - Not Beyond "Rain Drops Keep Falling On My Head" !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02X5hCfxEX0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=howEAqstkzQ
David I 'forcast' that you Weather* a lot !
* I'm Be So Wet - I Could Be Dry !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-oQI6hcIDY
-a-la- I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry !
- The same spots get congested every day.
David and "That's News" : day-after-Day-After-DAY !
Pick the Road Less Travelled on your journey down the
Freeway-of-Life {Love} on your Pink Elephant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJgqKNM3zfU
- Now if a station decided to do real news I'd listen.
David -IF- You Listened You Just Might Hear Real News !
yes - i heard it on the 'free' over-the-air radio ~ RHF
.
Reading a few headlines from the AP is not "news". I can get that off
of the web more conveniently. Most newspapers have the same problem,
since they just reprint filler from the AP. There are so many ways
convenient to get AP content that another outlet provided no value to me.
I think what the poster meant by "news" is to have a local person who
knows everyone and has a feel for the spirit of the community running
around with a notebook[0] talking to people, checking facts, doing deep
analysis, and sending stories back to the station[1]. Blogs have a
change of filling this role, though, so there is hope yet.
(I'm under 30; people who aren't part of the Internet generation may
feel differently.)
-Luke
[0] And by "notebook", I mean the kind with dual cores and a
cellphone-based Internet connection. And room for a digital camera in
the laptop-bag.
[1] Some local TV news people sort-of do this, but they don't do all
that much fact-checking and I'd also have to plan my life around
watching TV at a particular time or rig up a DVR just for the purpose.
Being home from work in time to watch the 6 o'clock news seems like a
delightful anachronism, cars with tail-fins, and other stuff that was
all over before I was born...
Alas I am over 60 and not part of the Internet Generation.
Born back in the Day when Radio was "AM" only
-and- 'Content' was a matter of the Character
of a Person by which you judged them. ~ RHF
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Scooter,
"95%" for 'now' Ain't Bad -but- it does tapper-off as the AM/FM
Radio Listener gets younger; and that ain't 'good' for the Future
of "Free" Over-the-Air AM/FM Radio.
First Read - The Future of "Free" Over-the-Air AM/FM Radio
is Web-Based Inter-Active Participation by the Radio Listeners.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ee20fde193bb394b
The Younger Generations of Audio Consumers are in-fact
Inter-Active Listeners and the Internet is there Tuning Knob.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ea6eb2962abeafc3
An Inter-Active Website -coupled- to a AM/FM Radio :
Intergrates "The Ear of the Listeners" natuarally into
the Music Selection and Programming of the Radio
Station. - - - BRILLIANT !
* AM/FM Radio - Be It Analog -or- Be It Digital :
It Ain't About Technology It's About Content [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/36056db1a2513844
* IBOC & WiFi : The "All Mode" AM/FM/DS/WF Radio
- Is It the Next Step in the Evolution of the Radio {Sound Box} ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/70107d1e0f1536c0
* IBOC : Where Are My AM/FM Radio Listeners Going ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bff99b232dd3d098
* A Revolution in Audio Content Delivery May Be in
the Making . . . The All Digital Mode AM/FM+DS Radio
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fd5918c62cb6a3b7
* IBOC : The Present Day Media Corporations that Focus
Solely on Radio Broadcasting may be... Dinosaurs in the Making
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/80a3b1e0cc441354
* "HD" Radios ! - The Un-Qualified Comments by a
Simple Consumer of "Free" Over-the-Air AM & FM Radio
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2185aed02732ce3e
* IBOC : A Dynamic Change in the American Listening Audience :
The New-Generation of Audio Consumers versus Older Radio Listeners
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e175d57589ef4f7
* IBOC : Wishing That IBOC Will Fail : Ain't Going to Make IBOC Fail
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/1952b979e2103313
.
.
the truth is out there - riding on a radio wave ~ RHF
.
- - - the digital divide : i draw the line @ iboc 'hd' radio - - -
.
So, how much time did you waste on this post? Taking over for Eduardo
(where is that fake Hispanic, anyway). See, if you had a blog, all it
takes is one simple post:
HD Radio is a farce!
RHF -wrote-
Sean Hannity's Warning for the Future of Music-Oiented Radio . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c0eaed461115d4e6
Pocket-Radio -wrote-
-
- So, how much time did you waste on this post?
=IF= This Message Is Read At All - It's Worth the Time :o)
Google Reports -for- Radio High Frequency "RHF"
RHF Your 7-Day Activity* :
9 discussions started
100 discussions replies
29 direct replies to your messages
2815 views of your messages ~ 400 per Day.
{Who Is This Guy ?} 35 views of your profile
* Note this is just the Google Groups "Count" and
does not include the UseNet Reader Number :
Which could be Equal to or more likely many times
the Google Numbers.
- Taking over for Eduardo (where is that fake Hispanic, anyway).
A2MOF - Technically I am more Hispanic then d'Eduardo
{it's in the blood} and Browner {Tanner} than most . . .
- See, if you had a blog, all it takes is one simple post:
My Message is One Simple Post :
Sean Hannity's Warning for the Future of Music-Oiented Radio . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c0eaed461115d4e6
+ Containing Three or More Links/URLs
+ Using Several Key Words : IBOC, HD-Radio, iBiquity,
AM/FM Radio, Digital, Web-Based, Inter-Active, Audio,
Consumers, WiFi, Media Corporations, and Broadcasting
=PS= Google Loves My Message Posts because they are
relatively Content Rich and help to feed Googles On-Line
Business Model : $ponsored Links -and- Related Page$
[ Pay-per-Clink "View" Advertising ]
-wrt- The "Why" Google runs Google Groups and maintains
the Archives of the UseNet DataBase.
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html
- - - i b well googled ;-}
-
- HD Radio is a farce!
-
- http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/
-
Pocket-Radio,
The Genesis {Theme} of all that I have Posted recently is :
That the Survival of "Free" Over-the-Air AM/FM Radio is
dependant on the Blending of both :
* Old Media AM/FM Radio Stations
* Coupled with New Media Inter-Active WebSites etc
* Creating Active Listeners Involvement by the 'next
generation' of Audio Consumers.
* Doesn't Matter -if- the Broadcast Mode is Analog or Digital.
* The Inter-Active WebSite will Be Fully Digital and that is
what 'matters' to the younger and future Audio Consumers.
Pocket Radio - Indeed HD-Radio may be a Farce.
But Wishing That HD-Radio Will Go Away :
Won't Make HD-Radio Go Away
And Whining About HD-Radio :
Won't Make HD-Radio Go Away Either.
Anti-HD-Radio Blogs :
Ain't Going To Make HD-Radio Go Away Either.
Money and Capital Investment -is- Behiind HD-Radio and It will
take Money or the Big Losses of Money to Put a Stop HD-Radio.
When the AM/FM Radio Broadcast Industry is committed to
spending Hundreds of Million Dollars over the next 10 Years
to make HD-Radio Happen :
HD-Radio Ain't Going To Die Quick -or- Easy.
With this Investment HD-Radio and the Capitalization of
HD-Radio Assets {IBOC Radio Stations : The Media
Corporations will Exercise their Political Muscle with
the Memebers of the US Congress* to Act to Protect
the Media Corporations** Capital Investments and the
Elected Officials Political Futures.
* Remember Political Advertising is the Live Blood of
US Elections.
** Remember that the majority of Media Corporations are in-fact
Mega "Multi" Media Diversified Companies that own TV Stations
& Networks and Radio Stations & Networks; plus other Media
Ventures as well; including New Media.
REALITY - Somewhere down-the-line the FCC will be Forced
by the Members of the US Congress -to-made- IBOC HD-Radio
the 'new' Digital Radio Broadcasting Standard; all in the name
of the Public Good toward a Digital Society.
IBOC HD-Radio = Follow-the-Money = Politi¢$
the truth is out there - riding on a radio wave ~ RHF
.
- - - the digital divide : i draw the line @ iboc 'hd' radio - - -
.
Google Search Results for : HD-Radio
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=HD-Radio
.
Google News Results for : HD-Radio
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=HD-Radio
.
=PS= You Win-the-Day when you put : IBOC -or-
HD Radio -or- iBiquity in the Subject-Line of your
Anti-IBOC-HD-Radio-iBiquity Posts :
* The People who want to Read-It can read it
-and- Like You
* The People who Do Not Want to Read-It can not read it
-and- They Will Not Dislike You.
TBL - That's Win+Win for You and Your Message.
.
Not only in your all day postings...but now you have a blog?
Are you one of those who is unhappy you can't DX 1kw stations out of
tennessee anymore?
Otherwise, whats your point? If HD takes off....then it does.
If it doesn't....thats the end.
Whats the point in trying to convince people of something you have no
control over?
See RHF, if you had a blog, all it would take is one post!
- See RHF, if you had a blog, all it would take is one post!
-
IBOCcrock - Effectively I do have a BLOG in the
Shortwave Listener QSL Reports Google Group. ~ RHF
http://groups.google.com/group/shortwave-listener-qsl-reports
As -Doodle- points out I can't do anything about the Future of
"Free" Over-the-Air AM/FM Radio and whether IBOC HD-Radio
will suceed or fail. There are Big Money Forces on the Move
and my few little consumer dollars ain't going to change nada.
IBOCcrock,
Here is a Promo for your "HD Radio is a Farce !" BLOG
HD RADIO FARCE - http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/
However I am a Shortwave Radio Listener (SWL) and I can
share what I find and Listen to on the Radio - So my Blog
is about simple about posting Shortwave Listener Reception
Reports and matters affective What's On The Shortwave Radio.
It's a Google Group : So Others May Join and Also Share
Their Shortwave Listener Reception Reports. It ain't Fancy
but it is Free of most of what is Bad here on RRS.
=PS= Unlike Most BLOGs : It Ain't About Me : It's simply
about Shortwave Listener (SWL) Reception Reports [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/shortwave-listener-qsl-reports
TITLE : Shortwave Listener QSL Reports
http://groups.google.com/group/shortwave-listener-qsl-reports
DESCRIPTION :
The Focus of this Group is Shortwave Radio Listener (SWL)
Reception Reports (QSLs) :
* Post what you are Listening to on the Shortwave Radio
* Post Shortwave Radio Reception Reports "QSL's"
* Read and Reply to Shortwave Radio Reception Reports
* Post Shortwave Radio Broadcast Frequencies and Times
* Post Shortwave Radio Program Schedules
* Post Shortwave Radio Programming Information, Lists and Database
Link/URLs
[ No Sex - No Politics - No Religion - No Spam - No Adult Content /
Porno ]
- - - Moderated by RHF -aka- RHF's QSL Blog Spot
.
Three Questions for {Potential} New Members :
http://groups.google.com/group/shortwave-listener-qsl-reports
What is your Interest in Shortwave Radio Listening ?
What Shortwave Radios Do You Own ?
How Long have You been a Shortwave Radio Listener ?
.
> On Mar 20, 12:37?am, "Doodle" <Doo...@Doodle.com> wrote:
> > How much time do you devote to trying to convince people aboutHD Radio?
> >
> > Not only in your all day postings...but now you have a blog?
> >
> > Are you one of those who is unhappy you can't DX 1kw stations out of
> > tennessee anymore?
> >
> > Otherwise, whats your point? ?If HD takes off....then it does.
> >
> > If it doesn't....thats the end.
> >
> > Whats the point in trying to convince people of something you have no
> > control over?
> >
> >
> >
> > So, how much time did you waste on this post? Taking over for Eduardo
> > (where is that fake Hispanic, anyway). See, if you had a blog, all it
> > takes is one simple post:
> >
> > HD Radiois a farce!
> >
> > http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > - Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> See RHF, if you had a blog, all it would take is one post!
But then he would not be able to fill up the news group with crap.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Self-indulgent crap at it's best.
He's changing the hearts and minds of the American public as we speak,
doncha know....
The only people I hear who rail against IBOC are frustrated DX-ers.
And some not insignificant broadcast engineers.
- And some not insignificant broadcast engineers.
DPM,
Now that is an important group of knowledgeable Radio
Professionals -but- How many $hares of their Corporate
Media $tock do they have and Vote at a $tock-Holders
Meeting to actually affect any Real Change at the
Corporated Level of these Mega Media Companies ?
The Quest for New Money {New Income Sources HD-2}
and Protecting Existing Capital Assets {Radio Stations}
of the Media Corporations is the "What" of IBOC Technology
and HD-Radio : Not Digital Technology or Improving the
Audio Product and Service to the Radio Listeners.
The Survival of "Free" Over-the-Air AM/FM Radio
is Dependant on the Blending of both;
Old Media AM/FM Radio Stations;
Coupled with New Media Inter-Active WebSites
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a725fb6d021ce8db
REALITY - Somewhere down-the-line the FCC will be Forced
by the Members of the US Congress -to-made- IBOC HD-Radio
the 'new' Digital Radio Broadcasting Standard; all in the name
of the Public Good toward a Digital Society.
THE TRUTH IS - Members of the US Congress will Act
to Protect the Existing Capital Assets {Radio Stations}
of the Media Corporations and Force the FCC to make
IBOC the New Standard for All AM/FM Radios.
IBOC HD-Radio = Follow-the-Money = Politi¢$
the truth is out there - riding on a radio wave ~ RHF
.
- - - the digital divide : i draw the line @ iboc 'hd' radio - - -
.
I'm not a Dx'er but a program listener and I'm against IBOC.
IBOC is a stupid idea.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
That's because the only ones that care about radio anymore are DX'ers.
"Digital Audio Broadcasting Systems and Their Impact on the
Terrestrial Radio Broadcast Service"
15. We will not establish a deadline for radio stations to convert to
digital broadcasting. Stations may decide if, and when, they will
provide digital service to the public. Several reasons support this
decision. First, unlike television licensees, radio stations are under
no statutory mandate to convert to a digital format. Second, a hard
deadline is unnecessary given that DAB uses an in-band technology that
does not require the allocation of additional spectrum. Thus, the
spectrum reclamation needs that exist for DTV do not exist here.
Moreover, there is no evidence in the record that marketplace forces
cannot propel the DAB conversion forward, and effective markets tend
to provide better solutions than regulatory schemes.
16. iBiquity argues that in the early stages of the transition, the
Commission should favor and protect existing analog signals. It states
that this could be accomplished by limiting the power level and
bandwidth occupancy of the digital carriers in the hybrid mode. At
some point in the future, when the Commission determines there is
sufficient market penetration of digital receivers, iBiquity asserts
that the public interest will be best served by reversing this
presumption to favor digital operations. At that time, broadcasters
will no longer need to protect analog operations by limiting the
digital signal and stations should have the option to implement all-
digital broadcasts. We decline to adopt iBiquity's presumption policy
because it is too early in the DAB conversion process for us to
consider such a mechanism. We find that such a policy, if adopted now,
may have unknown and unintended consequences for a new technology that
has yet to be accepted by the public or widely adopted by the
broadcast industry.
http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-IMPACT/2007/August/Day-15/i15922.htm
Just like DAB in the UK, Canada, Australia, and Germany, HD Radio will
fail from lack of consumer interest.
IBOCcrock,
Here is a Promo for your "HD Radio is a Farce !" BLOG
HD RADIO FARCE - http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/
.
IBOC : Wishing That IBOC Will Fail : Ain't Going to Make IBOC Fail
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/1952b979e2103313
.
the truth is out there - riding on a radio wave ~ RHF
.
- - - the digital divide : i draw the line @ iboc 'hd' radio - - -
.
Google Search Results for : HD-Radio
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=HD-Radio
.
Google News Results for : HD-Radio
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=HD-Radio
.
> fail from lack of consumer interest.- Hide quoted text -
It is up to consumers to determine the fate of HD Radio, and it is
failing from lack of consumer interest:
I agree AM/Fm can't die soon enough.. There's just not much worth listening
too!
Scooter,
DOH ! - Remember You Are Not Reading My Posts . . .
because i am not on-line - r a d i o . . . it's alive ~ RHF
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