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malib...@gmail.com

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Mar 12, 2008, 12:05:23 AM3/12/08
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I cannot believe it but I have been unable to find a wi fi internet
radio in a single bricks and mortar store in the Los Angeles area
including Best Buy, Radio Shack, Target, etc., etc. Any suggestions.

joewo

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Mar 12, 2008, 12:19:22 AM3/12/08
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Here is my stand alone internet wi fi radio
http://www.amazon.com/Intellitouch-ITC-IR1000B-Grace-Wifi-Radio/dp/B000YGNZN4

I love it!
It is like an old school AM table radio with one big speaker. HOWEVER
it has stereo output in the back and it was easy to setup with the
http://reciva.com/
website to set the presets on the radio. It is not web controlled but
the presets are and all it takes is a click on the website....then a
push of the button on the radio and the new preset is there in about
10 seconds total.
It sounds great....like like FM mono in the single speaker.

Check out the forums at the reciva site for details knowing it is sold
as a couple other brand names in Europe.

J&D Schnoor

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Mar 12, 2008, 12:55:20 AM3/12/08
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Here is a site http://www.wifiradioreview.com/reviews for some additional
information. I have been giving some thought to a Sangean WFR-20, but I
haven't read any reviews on it yet.


RHF

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Mar 12, 2008, 2:45:49 AM3/12/08
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On Mar 11, 9:05 pm, malibur...@gmail.com wrote:
-
- I cannot believe it but I have been unable to find
- a wi fi internet radio in a single bricks and mortar
- store in the Los Angeles area including Best Buy,
- Radio Shack, Target, etc., etc.  Any suggestions.
-

NO.

Some Say : Wi Fi ?

I Say : Why Bother !

internet audio content ain't radio ~ RHF
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Geoffrey S. Mendelson

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Mar 12, 2008, 3:09:03 AM3/12/08
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RHF wrote:

> internet audio content ain't radio ~ RHF

It depends upon your definition of radio. :-)

There are many radio stations streaming their programing over the
Internet that never were, and probably never will be broadcasting over
shortwave.

If you want to listen to those programs, they are a good alternative
to "top 40 via satellite" or Rush Limbaugh. Having a radio type interface
instead of a computer extends access to those programs to the less technical,
or in places that a computer would not really fit, such as besides your bed.

In my case, it won't replace my beside radio (a Kenwood R-5000, with 20 meters
of random wire antenna), but it might replace my wife's, a Sony AM/FM portable.
It could very easily replace my clock radio.

BTW, did you know that there was a failed effort to produce one 10 years
ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerbango and that there is a U.S.
patent issued (to someone else) on the idea of presenting Internet Radio
programs and actual radio programs together.

Geoff.

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IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/

mi...@sushi.com

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Mar 12, 2008, 4:25:24 AM3/12/08
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On Mar 11, 9:05 pm, malibur...@gmail.com wrote:

Fry's stocks the Roku and Squezebox. Both do radio and play streamed
music. I was able to get $50 off the Squeezebox using a special code
and directly ordering from Logitec. I think it was "whiteisnice" and
you had to buy the white version.

The Squeezebox needs to plug into high fidelity equipment, i.e. think
of it like a CD player and tuner. The Roku can do both, i..e it has
some cheesy speakers if you want boombox sound. The Squeezebox is
about twice the cost, but very high quality. It also supports FLAC
streaming. That is, you store your audio in FLAC format on your hard
drive. The software can stream the FLAC as I states, or convert to MP3
on the fly if you want to stream over the net rather than your LAN.
The Roku doesn't support FLAC.

If you go to www.sourceforge.org, there is a software emulator for the
squeezebox called softsqueeze. This lets you emulate the box to make
sure your network and software are working before you buy the box. If
all you want is streaming radio, you can get that just by attaching it
to your wifi and logging into their network.

RHF

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Mar 12, 2008, 5:00:50 AM3/12/08
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On Mar 12, 12:09 am, g...@mendelson.com (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote:
> RHF wrote:
> > internet audio content ain't radio ~ RHF
>
> It depends upon your definition of radio. :-)
>
> There are many radio stations streaming their programing over the
> Internet that never were, and probably never will be broadcasting over
> shortwave.
>
> If you want to listen to those programs, they are a good alternative
> to "top 40 via satellite" or Rush Limbaugh. Having a radio type interface
> instead of a computer extends access to those programs to the less technical,
> or in places that a computer would not really fit, such as besides your bed.
>
> In my case, it won't replace my beside radio (a Kenwood R-5000, with 20 meters
> of random wire antenna), but it might replace my wife's, a Sony AM/FM portable.
> It could very easily replace my clock radio.
>
> BTW, did you know that there was a failed effort to produce one 10 years
> ago:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerbangoand that there is a U.S.

> patent issued (to someone else) on the idea of presenting Internet Radio
> programs and actual radio programs together.
>
> Geoff.
>
> --
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com  N3OWJ/4X1GM
> IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
> Visit my 'blog athttp://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/

GSM,

The "All Mode" AM/FM/DS/WF Radio - Is It the Next Step
in the Evolution of the Radio {Sound Box} ?
+ AM Radio
+ AM & FM Radio
+ AM & FM-Stereo Radio
+ IBOC Analog and Digital AM-Stereo & FM Multi-Channel Radio
+ WiFi Internet and IBOC Analog and Digital AM-Stereo
& FM Multi-Channel Radio

Will Audio Consumers Want the All Digital Mode AM/FM/DS Radio ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/f937d82990d558be

A Revolution in Audio Content Delivery May Be in the
Making . . . The All Digital Mode AM/FM+DS Radio
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fd5918c62cb6a3b7

NOTE - The Price Point of these All Digital-Mode AM/FM/DS
"HD" Radios will Drop Annually over a Period of several Years
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/efc8bced15215f63

What About the All Digital IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio
with Direct Satellite (DS) Plug-and-Play.
-aka- "All Mode" AM/FM/DS Radios
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/79bbda2241262e55
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e4fa8254e237d12
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/61569565b11d0e23

So what is needed to take this "Sound Box" to the next level
is the same sort of Plug-and-Play Optional WiFi Module that
would allow the "All Mode" AM/FM/DS Radios to become
"All Mode" AM/FM/DS/WF Radios

+1 = Basic AM/FM "HD" Radio {IBOC Analog and Digital}

+2 = Standard Input for an "Optional" Direct Satellite (DS)
Plug-and-Play Module {Tuner & Antenna}

+3 = Standard Input for an "Optional" WiFi (WF) Internet
Plug-and-Play Module {Tuner & Antenna}


connectivity in all things - sky-net... it's out-there ~ RHF
.

Geoffrey S. Mendelson

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Mar 12, 2008, 5:54:01 AM3/12/08
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RHF wrote:

Note that is not a "radio is dead" posting. I welcome the ability to receive
audio programs using other delivery methods than radios, but have no
plans or desire to stop using my radios. I consider it MORE,
not less.

> The "All Mode" AM/FM/DS/WF Radio - Is It the Next Step
> in the Evolution of the Radio {Sound Box} ?
> + AM Radio
> + AM & FM Radio
> + AM & FM-Stereo Radio
> + IBOC Analog and Digital AM-Stereo & FM Multi-Channel Radio
> + WiFi Internet and IBOC Analog and Digital AM-Stereo
> & FM Multi-Channel Radio

I don't realy know. IBOC and satellite radio are U.S. specific.

WiFi and Internet radio is world wide (but not anywhere near 100%
coverage). Some places would surprise you, for example, Estonia
has 100% WiFi coverage.

In industrialized nations, LW,AM and shortwave broadcasting are on
their way out because of increasing levels of RF noise.

Internet delivery of realtime audio programs (aka Internet Radio) is
very attractive to producers because it does not require big investment
in equipment, licenses, and is easily scaleable.

In the past if you wanted to reach a large audience with little
money, you had to modify a ham radio and become a pirate. Now
you can publish you programs with very little investment,
100% legally with YouTube, Miro and many other websites.

Real time delivery is more expensive, but certainly a lot cheaper
than obtaining a broadcast license, or buying time from a licensed
SWBC station.

Once you leave your local time zone, the attraction of real time
delivery lessens. How many people are going to get up at 3am to
listen to a talk show? Sporting event? "Live" concert?

dave

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Mar 12, 2008, 9:04:26 AM3/12/08
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I use the $200 Everex PC from WalMart. It's cheaper than a standalone
web radio. It uses about 20 Watts of electricals, or about 10% of what
a "normal" desktop uses. As a bonus, I can type on usenet whilst
listening to web radio.

dave

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Mar 12, 2008, 9:08:29 AM3/12/08
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joewo wrote:
> Here is my stand alone internet wi fi radio
> http://www.amazon.com/Intellitouch-ITC-IR1000B-Grace-Wifi-Radio/dp/B000YGNZN4
>
> I love it!
> It is like an old school AM table radio with one big speaker. HOWEVER
> it has stereo output in the back and it was easy to setup with the
> http://reciva.com/
> website to set the presets on the radio. It is not web controlled but
> the presets are and all it takes is a click on the website....then a
> push of the button on the radio and the new preset is there in about
> 10 seconds total.
> It sounds great....like like FM mono in the single speaker.
>
> Check out the forums at the reciva site for details knowing it is sold
> as a couple other brand names in Europe.
>
>
Seems awkward to tune...

RHF

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Mar 12, 2008, 2:20:49 PM3/12/08
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On Mar 12, 6:04 am, dave <noth...@nowhere.com> wrote:

> malibur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I cannot believe it but I have been unable to find a wi fi internet
> > radio in a single bricks and mortar store in the Los Angeles area
> > including Best Buy, Radio Shack, Target, etc., etc.  Any suggestions.
>
- I use the $200 Everex PC from WalMart.
- It's cheaper than a standalone web radio.
- It uses about 20 Watts of electricals, or about 10%
- of what a "normal" desktop uses.
- As a bonus, I can type on usenet whilst listening to web radio.
-

Dave - Brilliant ! ~ RHF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWqGLVaITsk

Plus don't forget to hook-up and use a your Whole House
"Gold" FM Transmitter to broadcast Wireless FM In-Home
from your Everex PC; so that every AM/FM Radio is part
of the Audio System.
.

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