Tweaking Time
$Zero
http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
let's hear it.
need as much feed back as you can possibly afford.
merci beaucoup.
NOTE: if this current project continues to get unconscionably (and
totally unjustifiably) screwed with (like all the others before it),
i'll be one very very fucking pissed individual.
just so you know.
that's a heads up to the usual suspects.
translation: FRO
now, as to my friends, and those rare neutrals, please oh please
assist moi in tweaking up the double-duty delirious all-nighter
rambling prose before you... to help assure that this latest "creative
genius" project of mine gets fined tuned into such an unstoppable
hilarious success that we can all (idiotic enemies, too) put on the
party hats and enjoy the fruits of many years of dedicated labor,
creativity, general insanity, and stubborn refusal to seriously
compromise myself in order to bow to the will of some very nasty
deluded people who have been getting their sadistic evil kicks at my
poor 'widdle expense for far too long.
so, anyway, thanks for your courage and honor.
and for your sense of fairness.
and last, but (definitely) not least, your sense of humor.
FWIW.
here's hoping that all of those points of character are indeed worth
much much more than their far more common opposite manifestations.
whoa.
understatement.
yikes.
-$Zero...
i feel like writing a poem. and so i will.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/7982aa5832373c51
Mark
Have you considered Girl Scout cookies?
I'm currently working on Ponzie scheme.
---
Mark
Double your money in 6 months. Ask me!
I.B.Larfin
>Tweaking Time
>
> http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
>
>let's hear it.
Is that your website?
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$Zero
no, i haven't.
i did do hot sauce once though.
best stuff in town.
people traveled from miles around to get their tongues on the
scrumptious peppery delight.
> I'm currently working on Ponzie scheme.
if you're implying that what you just read was some sort of Ponzi
scheme, than so is every other capitalistic entrepreneurial endeavor
on the face of mother earth, ever.
duh.
do you really want to go down a road that you don't even have the
faintest economic clue of which way is up?
let alone east and west?
> Mark
> Double your money in 6 months. Ask me!
i'll ask you to try to make some remote sense next time.
-$Zero...
boring boring boring boring boring boring
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/c7b7ab9a8b4280fd
I.B.Larfin
>Tweaking Time
>
> http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
>
>let's hear it.
"with contempt-mongering manipulation" <--- clumsy.
"Just imagine how many thousands and thousands of people it takes to
produce and deliver 20 million T-shirts from sea to shining sea! "
They better not say "Made In China". In fact another T whose front
says "Made In USA" and whose back says "NOT Made In China" might be a
big seller.
Overall comment: It goes on and on and on. Write tight. Say it
once, make it potent, keep the order button close at hand.
--
promote flatulence!
$Zero
> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Tweaking Time
>
> > http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
>
> >let's hear it.
>
> Is that your website?
define ownership.
no need.
flatulence is shamelessly self-promoting.
-$Zero...
making ketchup flow
(and other things you learn in the jungle)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/d03b730a0ce87e2e
danger...@gmail.com
> Tweaking Time
>
> http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
You might want to see the cover of the current New Yorker -- 'The
Octorush', eight identical whining babies, all looking like Rush.
I like Rush. He's not sneaky like other Republicans. He says right out
what he thinks. And what Rush thinks, all other Repubs think, too.
He's like the head robot of the Borg.
DB
$Zero
> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Tweaking Time
>
> > http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
>
> >let's hear it.
>
> "with contempt-mongering manipulation" <--- clumsy.
oh, man, there's way more clumsier stuff than that.
that's a gem in comparison.
> "Just imagine how many thousands and thousands of people it takes to
> produce and deliver 20 million T-shirts from sea to shining sea! "
>
> They better not say "Made In China". In fact another T whose front
> says "Made In USA" and whose back says "NOT Made In China"
> might be a big seller.
i like it.
is it original?
anyway, IMO, it doesn't need to be 100% American made, as long it it
ends up creating thousands of American jobs while not decreasing same.
though i am trying to do my best to have the highest percentage
feasible in that regard.
> Overall comment: It goes on and on and on. Write tight.
it's a draft.
problem is, the more i try to cut it down, the longer it gets.
that's why i hired an editor who seems to be out of commission.
> Say it once, make it potent, keep the order button close at hand.
yeah, well, that order button has a mind of it's own.
i think i'm gonna stick with the longer form, but i just need to
majorly enhance it keep it interesting and/or amusing every step of
the way.
any suggestions?
...
also, would you consider programing the website?
it's a paying gig.
i've got lots of groundbreakingly fun and practical novel ideas for
it.
-$Zero...
entrepreneur alert!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/389516280a2545db
danger...@gmail.com
> I like Rush. He's not sneaky like other Republicans. He says right out
> what he thinks. And what Rush thinks, all other Repubs think, too.
> He's like the head robot of the Borg.
Let me put that another way. If Republicans thought for themselves,
think how much more dangerous they'd be.
DB
(but then, would they be Republicans?)
I.B.Larfin
>On Mar 22, 11:28 am, I.B.Larfin <stutstutter...@theclowns.net> wrote:
>> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Tweaking Time
>>
>> > http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
>>
>> >let's hear it.
>>
>> Is that your website?
>
>define ownership.
All right, play games if you wish. I assume you know how to contact
me via email should you so choose.
"Don't RUSH over the cliff!"
"Obama failure: delayed until the Bush war-crimes trials are complete"
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$Zero
> On Mar 22, 6:07 am, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Tweaking Time
>
> > http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
>
> You might want to see the cover of the current New Yorker -- 'The
> Octorush', eight identical whining babies, all looking like Rush.
it's not the only design we're gonna be offering.
and we're still tweaking that one as it is.
the big "fail" thinger is kinda limited in its audience appreciation,
for one thing. trendyspeak and not as well executed there as it could
be. how it's arranged on the graphic is less than ideal to
acommunication perfectionist like moi, though the cartoon itself looks
really cool at normal size.
but there's not really a fantastic punchline on the thing.
(though the spirit of the shirt and it's purpose is the main point)
you have to click thru all the links to get to the story about our
daily coverage of his show and what he did when the dow went up last
week to really get what the "improve the economy" thing is all about.
i was thinking of changing the website punchline to:
http://www.iamhelpingtocreatejobsinamerica.com
but it doesn't really fit that cartoon.
maybe contrasted with Limbaugh picking his nose, sitting on an obscene
pile of cash during a commercial break while a dittohead is shown in
another pane living in squalor cheering him on as his home is being
repossessed?
as the weeks go by we will be doing whole new designs incorporating
them with one of our numerous dedicated domains that we've set aside
for the 20 million thinger.
for instance.
it's the job creation thing that we're mainly focusing on.
we're inviting all interested parties to submit designs and earn
royalties from them as we sell the shirts in the anti-dittoheaded
"hopes for failure" effort to sell as many shirts as there are
dittoheads,
that's the main point. to create actual jobs and progress instead of
contempt mongering and strife like Limbaugh and his ilk do, day in,
day out.
> I like Rush. He's not sneaky like other Republicans. He says right out
> what he thinks. And what Rush thinks, all other Repubs think, too.
> He's like the head robot of the Borg.
>
> DB
Rush is THE most dishonest person i've ever had the displeasure to
listen to twisting the news and whatnot.
he hasn't said a single honest thing in the whole two or three weeks
that i've been tuning in.
which i guess he considers to be a sense of humor, but his constantly
screamy angry voice says differently to some of the more dimwitted of
his idiotic listeners.
which is why he is a genuine threat to domestic tranquility and
whatnot, IMO.
-$Zero...
do you
really
want to
go down
a road
that
you
don't
even
have
the faintest economic clue
as to
which
way
is
up?
let alone
east
and
west?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/c9424c3e51b63464
I.B.Larfin
>On Mar 22, 11:52 am, I.B.Larfin <stutstutter...@theclowns.net> wrote:
>> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Tweaking Time
>>
>> > http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
>>
>> >let's hear it.
>>
>> "with contempt-mongering manipulation" <--- clumsy.
>
>oh, man, there's way more clumsier stuff than that.
>
>that's a gem in comparison.
I took a quick look and noted what I could before the gag reflex
kicked in. Like a duck, in and out.
>> "Just imagine how many thousands and thousands of people it takes to
>> produce and deliver 20 million T-shirts from sea to shining sea! "
>>
>> They better not say "Made In China". In fact another T whose front
>> says "Made In USA" and whose back says "NOT Made In China"
>> might be a big seller.
>
>i like it.
>
>is it original?
How would I know what utter crap has been planted in my subconscious
by decades of television, videos, et cetera? If I knew it to be
copied I'd have included attribution.
It's funny, for years I've tried to get my wife involved in a T-shirt
business with me doing the slogans and her doing the artwork, but
she's always thought it tritely commercial. Whatever, stuff is after
all self-supplying.
>anyway, IMO, it doesn't need to be 100% American made, as long it it
>ends up creating thousands of American jobs while not decreasing same.
>
>though i am trying to do my best to have the highest percentage
>feasible in that regard.
>
>> Overall comment: It goes on and on and on. Write tight.
>
>it's a draft.
>
>problem is, the more i try to cut it down, the longer it gets.
Keep adding sticks to reinforce the airplane and it'll never get off
the ground.
>that's why i hired an editor who seems to be out of commission.
You haven't hired him until he's accepted. I think the lad in
question may have greater concerns at the moment, or perhaps you
haven't made the financial reality of it sufficiently clear to get his
attention. Wrong venue for discussion, this.
>> Say it once, make it potent, keep the order button close at hand.
>
>yeah, well, that order button has a mind of it's own.
>
>i think i'm gonna stick with the longer form, but i just need to
>majorly enhance it keep it interesting and/or amusing every step of
>the way.
>
>any suggestions?
Yes: say it once, make it potent, keep the order button close at hand.
>also, would you consider programing the website?
>
>it's a paying gig.
>
>i've got lots of groundbreakingly fun and practical novel ideas for
>it.
I'd consider fucking Paris Hilton if the price was right but that
doesn't mean I'd do it. I'm an ornery cuss and not easy to work with,
and I'm far behind in my own web software development. If you're
serious take the name of my blog and remove the spaces and point that
userid at gmail.com
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$Zero
> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 22, 11:52 am, I.B.Larfin <stutstutter...@theclowns.net> wrote:
> >> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Tweaking Time
>
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
>
> >> >let's hear it.
>
> >> "with contempt-mongering manipulation" <--- clumsy.
>
> >oh, man, there's way more clumsier stuff than that.
>
> >that's a gem in comparison.
>
> I took a quick look and noted what I could before the gag reflex
> kicked in. Like a duck, in and out.
well, gee, i expect a lot more effort than that for free.
wtf.
in fact, when i saw your nym as a response in google i was hoping to
open up your post and find a compete rewrite.
> >> "Just imagine how many thousands and thousands of people it takes to
> >> produce and deliver 20 million T-shirts from sea to shining sea! "
>
> >> They better not say "Made In China". In fact another T whose front
> >> says "Made In USA" and whose back says "NOT Made In China"
> >> might be a big seller.
>
> >i like it.
>
> >is it original?
>
> How would I know what utter crap has been planted in my subconscious
> by decades of television, videos, et cetera? If I knew it to be
> copied I'd have included attribution.
>
> It's funny, for years I've tried to get my wife involved in a T-shirt
> business with me doing the slogans and her doing the artwork,
you'd be great at it.
i love some of the analogies you come up with!
though the China thinger above wasn't as funny the second time thru as
it was the first.
i have a whole notepad file somewhere full of some of your greatest
sentences.
> but she's always thought it tritely commercial.
LOL.
> Whatever, stuff is after all self-supplying.
precious.
> >anyway, IMO, it doesn't need to be 100% American made, as long it it
> >ends up creating thousands of American jobs while not decreasing same.
>
> >though i am trying to do my best to have the highest percentage
> >feasible in that regard.
>
> >> Overall comment: It goes on and on and on. Write tight.
>
> >it's a draft.
>
> >problem is, the more i try to cut it down, the longer it gets.
>
> Keep adding sticks to reinforce the airplane and it'll never get off
> the ground.
see?
you nailed it.
> >that's why i hired an editor who seems to be out of commission.
>
> You haven't hired him until he's accepted.
he did.
but then...
mia.
> I think the lad in
> question may have greater concerns at the moment, or perhaps you
> haven't made the financial reality of it sufficiently clear to get his
> attention.
no, that was all settled.
> Wrong venue for discussion, this.
than shaddap' shuttin up, rabbit!
> >> Say it once, make it potent, keep the order button close at hand.
>
> >yeah, well, that order button has a mind of it's own.
>
> >i think i'm gonna stick with the longer form, but i just need to
> >majorly enhance it keep it interesting and/or amusing every step of
> >the way.
>
> >any suggestions?
>
> Yes: say it once, make it potent, keep the order button close at hand.
i'll say it again in case you missed it:
the button is not controllable by moi.
it moves down as the text increases.
but i meant:
any suggestions on what to say once?
> >also, would you consider programing the website?
>
> >it's a paying gig.
>
> >i've got lots of groundbreakingly fun and practical novel ideas for
> >it.
>
> I'd consider fucking Paris Hilton if the price was right but that
> doesn't mean I'd do it. I'm an ornery cuss and not easy to work with,
> and I'm far behind in my own web software development. If you're
> serious take the name of my blog and remove the spaces and point that
> userid at gmail.com
being as i still haven't had any sleep, i have an easier solution:
email me at zeroisms, same bat channel as your host.
and you're difficult to work with? perfect. you're hired!
that's just how i roll, dude.
send me your terms and we'll discuss desired outcomes.
after i get me some much needed sleep, that is.
-$Zero...
Rush Limbaugh dominates the media
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/e67e833b8039d857
Imagine Captain Kirk Doing the Promo
http://mustbuytees.com
I.B.Larfin
>On Mar 22, 12:56 pm, I.B.Larfin <stutstutter...@theclowns.net> wrote:
>> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Mar 22, 11:52 am, I.B.Larfin <stutstutter...@theclowns.net> wrote:
>> >> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >Tweaking Time
>>
>> >> > http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
>>
>> >> >let's hear it.
>>
>> >> "with contempt-mongering manipulation" <--- clumsy.
>>
>> >oh, man, there's way more clumsier stuff than that.
>>
>> >that's a gem in comparison.
>>
>> I took a quick look and noted what I could before the gag reflex
>> kicked in. Like a duck, in and out.
>
>well, gee, i expect a lot more effort than that for free.
>
>wtf.
>
>in fact, when i saw your nym as a response in google i was hoping to
>open up your post and find a compete rewrite.
I'm still attempting to delay what I *should* be doing, but I'm no
longer desperate about delaying it.
Yassum.
>> >> Say it once, make it potent, keep the order button close at hand.
>>
>> >yeah, well, that order button has a mind of it's own.
>>
>> >i think i'm gonna stick with the longer form, but i just need to
>> >majorly enhance it keep it interesting and/or amusing every step of
>> >the way.
>>
>> >any suggestions?
>>
>> Yes: say it once, make it potent, keep the order button close at hand.
>
>i'll say it again in case you missed it:
>
>the button is not controllable by moi.
>
>it moves down as the text increases.
I looked at the html source. You're using all that css garbage. I'm
an old fashioned guy. I'd have to redo the entire banana. I don't
think it's a practical solution.
>but i meant:
>
>any suggestions on what to say once?
There's one thing which, left out, would leave it entirely without
meaning; find that and throw away everything else.
>> >also, would you consider programing the website?
>>
>> >it's a paying gig.
>>
>> >i've got lots of groundbreakingly fun and practical novel ideas for
>> >it.
>>
>> I'd consider fucking Paris Hilton if the price was right but that
>> doesn't mean I'd do it. I'm an ornery cuss and not easy to work with,
>> and I'm far behind in my own web software development. If you're
>> serious take the name of my blog and remove the spaces and point that
>> userid at gmail.com
>
>being as i still haven't had any sleep, i have an easier solution:
>
>email me at zeroisms, same bat channel as your host.
>
>and you're difficult to work with? perfect. you're hired!
>
>that's just how i roll, dude.
>
>send me your terms and we'll discuss desired outcomes.
>
>after i get me some much needed sleep, that is.
I'm not sure I can afford you. I think the Mad Dr Ray is more likely
to be current on that css shite.
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$Zero
> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 22, 12:56 pm, I.B.Larfin <stutstutter...@theclowns.net> wrote:
> >> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Mar 22, 11:52 am, I.B.Larfin <stutstutter...@theclowns.net> wrote:
> >> >> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >Tweaking Time
>
> >> >> > http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
>
> >> >> >let's hear it.
>
> >> >> "with contempt-mongering manipulation" <--- clumsy.
>
> >> >oh, man, there's way more clumsier stuff than that.
>
> >> >that's a gem in comparison.
>
> >> I took a quick look and noted what I could before the gag reflex
> >> kicked in. Like a duck, in and out.
>
> >well, gee, i expect a lot more effort than that for free.
>
> >wtf.
>
> >in fact, when i saw your nym as a response in google i was hoping to
> >open up your post and find a compete rewrite.
>
> I'm still attempting to delay what I *should* be doing, but I'm no
> longer desperate about delaying it.
total peace of mind of mind can't be far behind.
it's a built-in godaddy shopping cart program that came with the
mechant account for accepting credit carad and paypal. it has very
little in the way of adjustable features short of trying to install
your own CSS into their advanced CSS window, but first you'd have to
invest in learning their whole existing sytem, much of which would be
outside the scope of changing with your own CSS due to the bway they
handle transactions and whatnot.
> I'm an old fashioned guy. I'd have to redo the entire banana.
> I don't think it's a practical solution.
well, that's not the programming i had in mind, anyway.
i want to create user accounts and social media networking type of
stuff, something along the lines of myspace and youtube and twitter,
etc. but with unique features that are not currently found at any of
those sites, and with a specific focus on the whole making things
better concept, to the extent that doing so doesn't result in making
things worse instead.
i'd need someone who could manage server side relational databases
which could output queries to users, and stuff like that.
but CSS isn't all that hard to learn, boots.
and it solves way more problems than it creates.
i just haven't been able to take the week or so that it would require
to dig into it myself so i still waste my time handcoding webpages
with plain text editors like windows notepad.
do you know php? java scripting?
> >but i meant:
>
> >any suggestions on what to say once?
>
> There's one thing which, left out, would leave it entirely without
> meaning; find that and throw away everything else.
yeah.
and that thing is...???
> >> >also, would you consider programing the website?
>
> >> >it's a paying gig.
>
> >> >i've got lots of groundbreakingly fun and practical novel ideas for
> >> >it.
>
> >> I'd consider fucking Paris Hilton if the price was right but that
> >> doesn't mean I'd do it. I'm an ornery cuss and not easy to work with,
> >> and I'm far behind in my own web software development. If you're
> >> serious take the name of my blog and remove the spaces and point that
> >> userid at gmail.com
>
> >being as i still haven't had any sleep, i have an easier solution:
>
> >email me at zeroisms, same bat channel as your host.
>
> >and you're difficult to work with? perfect. you're hired!
>
> >that's just how i roll, dude.
>
> >send me your terms and we'll discuss desired outcomes.
>
> >after i get me some much needed sleep, that is.
>
> I'm not sure I can afford you. I think the Mad Dr Ray is more likely
> to be current on that css shite.
i'd rather go apple dunking in a carnival outhouse, on a blazingly hot
summer afternoon during peak crowd hours.
-$Zero...
What makes a Marketing Genius different from other folks?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/79b67570c907fd04
dearcilla
> Tweaking Time
>
> http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
>
> let's hear it.
>
> need as much feed back as you can possibly afford.
I need to buy new clothes that will make me more attractive to MOTOS.
However, this doesn't look like what I am looking for.
The economy may be looking up.
See how this chart turned up?
Alan Hope
>need as much feed back as you can possibly afford.
Nobody is ever going to read that page. Here's my advice: STFU and
sell a T-shirt. Other sites manage it without a manifesto. What makes
you think people need to be preached at?
Alan Hope
>anyway, IMO, it doesn't need to be 100% American made, as long it it
>ends up creating thousands of American jobs while not decreasing same.
>though i am trying to do my best to have the highest percentage
>feasible in that regard.
Uh-oh. I spy a weasel.
danger...@gmail.com
> $Zero goes:
>
> >need as much feed back as you can possibly afford.
>
> Nobody is ever going to read that page. Here's my advice: STFU and
> sell a T-shirt.
As painful as it is, I find myself agreeing with AH.
DB
$Zero
> $Zero goes:
>
> >anyway, IMO, it doesn't need to be 100% American made, as long it it
> >ends up creating thousands of American jobs while not decreasing same.
> >though i am trying to do my best to have the highest percentage
> >feasible in that regard.
>
> Uh-oh. I spy a weasel.
no weasel.
i'm not an isolationist, Alan.
i believe in free trade as long as it's reasonably fair.
the purpose of the overall company/organization is to improve things
in general.
and have fun doing it.
Peace, Love, and Understanding, Dude.
creativity. ingenuity.
anyway, the purpose of this particular project regarding Rush Limbaugh
is to create jobs in America while effectively corking the blatherings
of contempt monger asshole's like him by showing what a traitor he is
to America by hoping that Obama fails, so much so that Rush is rooting
against the American economy.
so there's a focus here that requires that American jobs take
priority.
which is why i will be doing my best to make sure that purchases we
make along the way don't grossly undermine the American economy in any
way.
win win.
instead of win lose.
-$Zero...
Barack Obama -- 21st Century Gandhi
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/6fa0a6c9583bb04d
$Zero
> $Zero goes:
>
> >need as much feed back as you can possibly afford.
>
> Nobody is ever going to read that page.
well, that may be true, but if so, it will be because of the continued
censorship those asswipes have been dishonestly engaging in.
SOP.
> Here's my advice: STFU and sell a T-shirt.
good advice.
but shirts don't sell themselves, Alan.
because firstly, people have to know that they are for sale.
censorship prevents all that, unfortunately.
so the first thing required is to get around the censorship.
anyway, the whole purpose of the sales of this shirt is to stimulate
the American economy which is being sabotaged by Limbaugh and his ilk.
so it would not be wise to STFU about that.
get it?
it's all part of the marketing strategy.
> Other sites manage it without a manifesto.
Gawd.
it's not a manifesto, Dude.
it's a marketing strategy.
and fun.
> What makes you think people need to be preached at?
i don't consider my long-winded overly non-concise stand up comedy
routine to be "preaching".
it's poking fun at those who preach unjustifiable contempt of others
for their own self-serving gains at the expense of everyone else.
YMMV.
(your mockery may vary).
-$Zero...
Neil Young cranks it out again
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/40958f836e7a1565
$Zero
that's why i'm here asking for tweaks.
so let's hear some.
if you were trying to sell 20 million shirts in one year, how would
you do it?
what would you say?
and what is it about the essay i posted that does not help to sell the
20 million shirts?
what would you take out?
try rewriting the thing into a simple couple of sentences to make it
much more conscise.
i'll even pay you for this service, if you require such a motivation.
if stimulating the American economy while mocking that hate monger
Rush Limbaugh into an embarrassed silence is not enough motivation for
you.
IOW: i welcome all suggestions as to how to improve Project Improve.
the ball is in your court.
let's see you improve upon that.
-$Zero...
Because there's only so much time in a minute!
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$Zero
> On Mar 22, 9:07 am, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Tweaking Time
>
> > http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
>
> > let's hear it.
>
> > need as much feed back as you can possibly afford.
>
> I need to buy new clothes that will make me more attractive to MOTOS.
what's a MOTOS?
> However, this doesn't look like what I am looking for.
how would you change it to make it "more attractive to MOTOS"?
> The economy may be looking up.
cool.
> See how this chart turned up?
>
> http://www.wtrg.com/daily/crudeoilprice.html
i'll check it out later.
can you summarize?
and is that some reason for us to NOT try to help stimulate the
economy further?
i don't get it.
is that what you're saying?
1. the shirt won't help you attract "MOTOS"
2. the economy doesn't need anymore economic entrepreneurialism
things are great!
does that somehow summarize your bizarre position on this matter?
-$Zero...
a president who plays basketball instead of golf
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/9de55b90e7181c55
If you're not reading MRB, you're not alone!
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$Zero
of yours:
On Mar 22, 12:17 pm, I.B.Larfin <stutstutter...@theclowns.net> wrote:
> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 22, 11:28 am, I.B.Larfin <stutstutter...@theclowns.net> wrote:
> >> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Tweaking Time
>
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
>
> >> >let's hear it.
>
> >> Is that your website?
>
> >define ownership.
>
> All right, play games if you wish.
i wasn't playing any games.
i was serious about that question.
this website comes immediately to mind:
those familiar with what happened to that domain along the way will
understand what i meant by:
define ownership.
> I assume you know how to contact
> me via email should you so choose.
>
> "Don't RUSH over the cliff!"
lemmings!
> "Obama failure: delayed until the Bush war-crimes trials are complete"
LOL
beautiful.
but that's a thinkpiece.
way too complex for a t-shirt, probably.
-$Zero...
if infinity truly has no shape,
perhaps it's nothing but a big scam.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/90e73e87af7cab4e
I.B.Larfin
>On Mar 22, 1:38 pm, I.B.Larfin <stutstutter...@theclowns.net> wrote:
>> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Mar 22, 12:56 pm, I.B.Larfin <stutstutter...@theclowns.net> wrote:
>> >> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Mar 22, 11:52 am, I.B.Larfin <stutstutter...@theclowns.net> wrote:
>> >> >> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >Tweaking Time
>>
>> >> >> > http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
>>
>> >> >> >let's hear it.
>>
>> >> >> "with contempt-mongering manipulation" <--- clumsy.
>>
>> >> >oh, man, there's way more clumsier stuff than that.
>>
>> >> >that's a gem in comparison.
>>
>> >> I took a quick look and noted what I could before the gag reflex
>> >> kicked in. Like a duck, in and out.
>>
>> >well, gee, i expect a lot more effort than that for free.
>>
>> >wtf.
>>
>> >in fact, when i saw your nym as a response in google i was hoping to
>> >open up your post and find a compete rewrite.
>>
>> I'm still attempting to delay what I *should* be doing, but I'm no
>> longer desperate about delaying it.
>
>total peace of mind of mind can't be far behind.
No great loss.
I *should* be working on that code instead of screwing off here.
>i'd need someone who could manage server side relational databases
>which could output queries to users, and stuff like that.
>
>but CSS isn't all that hard to learn, boots.
>
>and it solves way more problems than it creates.
Reminds me of having a job, no thanks on that one.
>i just haven't been able to take the week or so that it would require
>to dig into it myself so i still waste my time handcoding webpages
>with plain text editors like windows notepad.
>
>do you know php? java scripting?
Java sucks more ass than hoover.
>> >but i meant:
>>
>> >any suggestions on what to say once?
>>
>> There's one thing which, left out, would leave it entirely without
>> meaning; find that and throw away everything else.
>
>yeah.
>
>and that thing is...???
You already got your freebie.
>> >> >also, would you consider programing the website?
>>
>> >> >it's a paying gig.
>>
>> >> >i've got lots of groundbreakingly fun and practical novel ideas for
>> >> >it.
>>
>> >> I'd consider fucking Paris Hilton if the price was right but that
>> >> doesn't mean I'd do it. I'm an ornery cuss and not easy to work with,
>> >> and I'm far behind in my own web software development. If you're
>> >> serious take the name of my blog and remove the spaces and point that
>> >> userid at gmail.com
>>
>> >being as i still haven't had any sleep, i have an easier solution:
>>
>> >email me at zeroisms, same bat channel as your host.
>>
>> >and you're difficult to work with? perfect. you're hired!
>>
>> >that's just how i roll, dude.
>>
>> >send me your terms and we'll discuss desired outcomes.
>>
>> >after i get me some much needed sleep, that is.
>>
>> I'm not sure I can afford you. I think the Mad Dr Ray is more likely
>> to be current on that css shite.
>
>i'd rather go apple dunking in a carnival outhouse, on a blazingly hot
>summer afternoon during peak crowd hours.
Fishing for brown trout, eh? Ewwww. Still, it sounds better than
dealing with css or mySql.
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>$Zero goes:
>
>>anyway, IMO, it doesn't need to be 100% American made, as long it it
>>ends up creating thousands of American jobs while not decreasing same.
>
>>though i am trying to do my best to have the highest percentage
>>feasible in that regard.
>
>Uh-oh. I spy a weasel.
Priorities. Making money first, doing good second. Whatever, things
are not always as they seem and even the best have moments of failing.
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>On Mar 22, 5:59 pm, dearcilla <dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 22, 9:07 am, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Tweaking Time
>>
>> > http://tinyurl.com/20MillionTees
>>
>> > let's hear it.
>>
>> > need as much feed back as you can possibly afford.
>>
>> I need to buy new clothes that will make me more attractive to MOTOS.
>
>what's a MOTOS?
I'm guessing "Member Of The Opposite Sex".
>> However, this doesn't look like what I am looking for.
>
>how would you change it to make it "more attractive to MOTOS"?
"The market is rising
but I'll fuck cheap today!"
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I.B.Larfin
>On Mar 22, 6:25 pm, Alan Hope <usenet.ident...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> $Zero goes:
>>
>> >need as much feed back as you can possibly afford.
>>
>> Nobody is ever going to read that page.
>
>well, that may be true, but if so, it will be because of the continued
>censorship those asswipes have been dishonestly engaging in.
>
>SOP.
>
>> Here's my advice: STFU and sell a T-shirt.
>
>good advice.
>
>but shirts don't sell themselves, Alan.
If your product won't sell itself get a better product.
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$Zero
i've already got orders for those shirts, dude.
but you wouldn't believe what i've had to go thru every step of the
way to get around the censorship (and still do) and whatnot so that
people have the opportunity to know that the shirts exist to be
purchased.
in fact, the idiotic Limbaugh contingent is so thoroughly entrenched
that when i went to the first screen printer on my list with a wad of
cash to have the shirts printed up, the guy actually declined.
my jaw literally dropped.
though i soon saw the sublime humor of it all.
you should have heard the flow of bizarre excuses coming out of his
mouth.
and dramatically changing with each objection that i fielded from him,
explaining why his objection was invalid.
it was absolutely hilarious.
i wish i had brought a video camera.
it would have been a youtube wonder.
this is near the end of the visit:
...
him: "I'd have to speak to Rush first"
moi: "ok. i'll call his production company and have them verify for
you that the cartoon is not his property... "
him: "no, i'd have to talk to Rush, himself, personally."
moi: "you're joking, right?"
him: "no."
and he wasn't joking, either.
he was serious.
i laughed all the way home.
...
lesson learned:
never attempt to do rational business with a Dittohead.
...
unless, of course, you bring your video camera.
-$Zero... <--- http://www.iamnotadittohead.com
total peace of mind
can't be far behind
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dearcilla
> and is that some reason for us to NOT try to help stimulate the
> economy further?
I don't believe in "stimulating" the economy, period.
danger...@gmail.com
> if stimulating the American economy while mocking that hate monger
> Rush Limbaugh into an embarrassed silence is not enough motivation for
> you.
'Embarrassed silence'? Now I know you're joking. Some folks make a
living out of being incapable of embarrassment.
Go ahead and leave the diatribes in, but the shirt should sell itself.
The motivation to buy is inherent in the shirt itself. To put it
another way, someone who'd buy the shirt has already come to a
conclusion about Rush and doesn't need further indoctrination.
Reminds me, a friend gave me a tee shirt from an Alcoholics Anonymous
convention. I said, "What am I supposed to do with this? Wear it?"
Is it surprising that AA has conventions? It surprised me.
DB
I.B.Larfin
I'm thinking you don't defeat a mocker by becoming a mocker mocker.
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$Zero
> dangerousb...@gmail.com wrote:
> >On Mar 22, 8:02 pm, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> if stimulating the American economy while mocking that hate monger
> >> Rush Limbaugh into an embarrassed silence is not enough motivation for
> >> you.
>
> >'Embarrassed silence'? Now I know you're joking. Some folks make a
> >living out of being incapable of embarrassment.
>
> >Go ahead and leave the diatribes in, but the shirt should sell itself.
it does sell itself, in a sense.
but like any product that eventually sells itself, somewhere along the
line the consumer needs to be informed about what it is that the
product actually does.
i mean, if you plop down a little gray unit in front of someone and
say it's an iPod, they won't shell out $150 for it unless they somehow
know what an iPod actually is other than a little gray thing.
they need to know what an iPod is actually for.
in the case of this particular t-shirt, people need to know the
significance of its message and how it relates to Rush Limbaugh
rooting against the American economy due to his idiotic hatred and
envy of Obama.
i mean, you won't see people buying t-shirts with messages on them if
they don't understand the meaning of the message, right?
get it?
and this t-shirt goes much further than most in its message because
there's a specific goal behind buying the shirt itself:
to create thousands of jobs (while giving Rush Limbaugh the bitter
fruit of his contempt-mongering labor).
http://www.IAmHelpingToCreateJobsInAmerica.com
that's a simple fact of the purchase of the shirt.
there's no indoctrination at all.
not one scintilla.
it's a movement created to create jobs and it utterly succeeds one
shirt sale at a time.
> >The motivation to buy is inherent in the shirt itself.
precisely.
but it needs to be explained or demonstrated in order to fully
understand it before that will happen on its own.
like almost anything.
> >To put it
> >another way, someone who'd buy the shirt has already come to a
> >conclusion about Rush
it's not about Rush, actually, it's about effectively countering his
totally negative effect on the economy as realized through his
indoctrinating 20 million dittoheads a week into rooting against the
American economy.
as well as his constant rooting against common sense itself.
> > and doesn't need further indoctrination.
indoctrination?
yikes.
is that how you see it?
you think that exposing a vicious dishonest self-serving fraud is
somehow indoctrination?
and creating thousands of jobs using irony, that's indoctrination?
i don't get it, dude.
> >Reminds me, a friend gave me a tee shirt from an Alcoholics Anonymous
> >convention. I said, "What am I supposed to do with this? Wear it?"
do you wear any tee shirts?
if so, which ones?
in any case, if you're a proud alcoholic, i suppose i could see why
you might wear that shirt.
otherwise, not.
> >Is it surprising that AA has conventions? It surprised me.
nothing surprises me anymore.
not even Liberals pointlessly poo pooing an anti-dittohead shirt.
i'm utterly unsurprisable.
it's freeing.
> >DB
>
> I'm thinking you don't defeat a mocker by becoming a mocker mocker.
fact: if you mock the dishonest mocker honestly, you defeat the
dishonest mocker.
that's the whole purpose of satire.
otherwise, the dishonest mocker's audience grows instead of shrinks.
precisely because of their use of dishonesty and the fact that it is
not being disputed.
see how that works?
-$Zero...
i don't consider
my long-winded
overly non-concise
stand up comedy routine
to be "preaching".
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/cddb2f92f79cd8f9
Because a word to the foolish is definitely not sufficient.
http://RejectTheBrainwash.com
danger...@gmail.com
> i mean, you won't see people buying t-shirts with messages on them if
> they don't understand the meaning of the message, right?
All right, I know there's at least two Americans that don't understand
what Rush meant and what the tee shirt means. But they've both been
comatose for ten years.
Read the Northern Sun website and tell me how many tee shirts you
don't understand. Some of the causes are a little dated, but you'll
get them all. (Unless you're one of the comatose ones.)
DB
danger...@gmail.com
> you think that exposing a vicious dishonest self-serving fraud is
> somehow indoctrination?
1. 'indoctrination' isn't a bad word
2. those 20M people will still worship Rush no matter what you do or
how many tee shirts you print
3. they will never put on a Rush Fail tee shirt, no matter how large
your website
4. people who will buy your tee shirt will decide the moment they see
the design and the price and come to a cost-benefit decision; they
won't need to read a diatribe
5. that's all; it's your business, not mine
DB
$Zero
> On Mar 23, 12:01 pm, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > i mean, you won't see people buying t-shirts with messages on them if
> > they don't understand the meaning of the message, right?
>
> All right, I know there's at least two Americans that don't understand
> what Rush meant and what the tee shirt means. But they've both been
> comatose for ten years.
and yet you still don't get it yourself, i see.
yes, granted, one aspect of the meaning of the shirt you grasp.
but what is the larger purpose of buying one of the 20 million shirts?
NOTE: this is not a pop quiz for review.
it counts toward your semester grade.
> Read the Northern Sun website and tell me how many tee shirts you
> don't understand.
probably none.
but the message of this shirt goes beyond the message on the shirt.
it has a dual purpose.
clue: job creation
> Some of the causes are a little dated, but you'll
> get them all. (Unless you're one of the comatose ones.)
well, like i said, the point of buying this shirt is more than just
making a fashion statement.
it's a responsible response to an irresponsible blowhard's microphone
farts.
it's about using a communication medium (the t-shirt itself) to create
thousands of jobs.
(instead of sabotaging the American economy like Rush does daily with
_his_ communication medium, abusing 20 million dittoheads per week)
and there's certainly nothing dated about creating jobs.
you know what's truly interesting about this thread?
the complete silence of the right wing fruitcakes of mw.
of course, all of you Liberal/Independent/Moderate guys are carrying
their water, so why should they chime in, right?
they must be very pleased with that, don't you think?
definitely.
-$Zero...
$Zero
> On Mar 23, 12:01 pm, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > you think that exposing a vicious dishonest self-serving fraud is
> > somehow indoctrination?
>
> 1. 'indoctrination' isn't a bad word
it is where _i_ come from, dude.
http://www.RejectTheBrainwash.com
> 2. those 20M people will still worship Rush no matter what you do or
> how many tee shirts you print
that's defeatist talk.
though likely true for the most part, particularly if everyone acts
like you and doesn't even give it the good old college try.
but anyway, eventually, Rush is going to completely snap, on air.
have you ever seen that Andy Griffith movie:
A Face in the Crowd
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050371/
that's got Rush's future written all over it.
and you're still missing the point of the 20 million shirt sales.
sure, it would be nice if one or two out of the 20 million sales were
made by suddenly enlightened Dittoheads, but that is not the target
market.
and there is a secondary purpose to buying the shirt.
having something to do with, creating what?
clue: it's starts with a J and ends with an S.
and there's an OB in the middle.
> 3. they will never put on a Rush Fail tee shirt, no matter how large
> your website
so?
that's their choice.
but what matters is what the other 20 million people choose.
> 4. people who will buy your tee shirt will decide the moment they see
> the design and the price and come to a cost-benefit decision; they
> won't need to read a diatribe
what diatribe are you speaking of?
my explanation for why someone might want to invest in a shirt?
was it really that poorly written?
i _was_ overly tired, but i'm pretty sure i did a better job than
_that_.
i'll have to go back and read it for the millionth time, this time
well-rested.
> 5. that's all; it's your business, not mine
wrong.
buy a shirt, create a job.
in this economy, that's your business as well.
i guess i really need to edit/rewrite that thing, huh?
whoa.
-$Zero...
I.B.Larfin
The message needs to be self-explanatory, to begin with. Beyond that,
I think the most you'll do by selling "Hate Limbaugh" tees is to snag
the fucker a few more viewers. I think you could make yourself a
fortune selling sloganed (is that spelt right?) tee shirts, I just
don't think "Hate Limbaugh" is the key.
>and this t-shirt goes much further than most in its message because
>there's a specific goal behind buying the shirt itself:
>
>to create thousands of jobs (while giving Rush Limbaugh the bitter
>fruit of his contempt-mongering labor).
>
> http://www.IAmHelpingToCreateJobsInAmerica.com
>
>that's a simple fact of the purchase of the shirt.
>
>there's no indoctrination at all.
>
>not one scintilla.
>
>it's a movement created to create jobs and it utterly succeeds one
>shirt sale at a time.
>
>> >The motivation to buy is inherent in the shirt itself.
>
>precisely.
>
>but it needs to be explained or demonstrated in order to fully
>understand it before that will happen on its own.
>
>like almost anything.
>
>> >To put it
>> >another way, someone who'd buy the shirt has already come to a
>> >conclusion about Rush
>
>it's not about Rush, actually, it's about effectively countering his
>totally negative effect on the economy as realized through his
>indoctrinating 20 million dittoheads a week into rooting against the
>American economy.
I don't think it needs to be countered with a t-shirt campaign, I
think it's a self-defeating stance he's taken on and time will do the
work.
>as well as his constant rooting against common sense itself.
>
>> > and doesn't need further indoctrination.
>
>indoctrination?
>
>yikes.
>
>is that how you see it?
>
>you think that exposing a vicious dishonest self-serving fraud is
>somehow indoctrination?
>
>and creating thousands of jobs using irony, that's indoctrination?
>
>i don't get it, dude.
I think you might've lost track of the attributions.
>> >Reminds me, a friend gave me a tee shirt from an Alcoholics Anonymous
>> >convention. I said, "What am I supposed to do with this? Wear it?"
>
>do you wear any tee shirts?
>
>if so, which ones?
>
>in any case, if you're a proud alcoholic, i suppose i could see why
>you might wear that shirt.
>
>otherwise, not.
>
>> >Is it surprising that AA has conventions? It surprised me.
>
>nothing surprises me anymore.
>
>not even Liberals pointlessly poo pooing an anti-dittohead shirt.
>
>i'm utterly unsurprisable.
>
>it's freeing.
>
>> >DB
>>
>> I'm thinking you don't defeat a mocker by becoming a mocker mocker.
>
>fact: if you mock the dishonest mocker honestly, you defeat the
>dishonest mocker.
>
>that's the whole purpose of satire.
I'm not a big fan of satire that draws attention to a negative
phenomenon that would wither without the satire to feed it.
>otherwise, the dishonest mocker's audience grows instead of shrinks.
>
>precisely because of their use of dishonesty and the fact that it is
>not being disputed.
>
>see how that works?
Kind of like the economic statistics the federal government pumps out
about how the rate of new unemployment claims is decreasing, and
people are supposed to *believe* that all the people not applying are
employed, that none have fallen off the rolls because there have been
no jobs for them?
>-$Zero...
>
> i don't consider
> my long-winded
> overly non-concise
> stand up comedy routine
> to be "preaching".
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/cddb2f92f79cd8f9
>
> Because a word to the foolish is definitely not sufficient.
> http://RejectTheBrainwash.com
I hope you succeed in making lots of money, because that seems to be
what it's about. If it's about helping America, I think "Hate
Limburger" isn't the key.
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$Zero
the message is:
buy this t-shirt, create a job in Rush's "honor"...
counter the 20 million dittoheads with 20 million job creation
efforts.
you don't want to put all that on the t-shirt, but you want it to be
understood that that is one of the main points of buying and wearing
one.
when the 20 million shirts campaign is more widely understood, seeing
the big FAIL mark under Rush's blustering hatemongering face will
become synonymous with the slightly more complicated message.
> Beyond that,
> I think the most you'll do by selling "Hate Limbaugh" tees is to snag
> the fucker a few more viewers.
where are you getting "Hate Limbaugh"?
yikes.
that kind of message twisting is more up his alley than yours.
> I think you could make yourself a
> fortune selling sloganed (is that spelt right?) tee shirts, I just
> don't think "Hate Limbaugh" is the key.
well, i'm not selling a "Hate Limbaugh" shirt, so your point is
utterly moot.
therefore, struck down as: irrelavant.
i'm selling a piece of comic karmic irony.
and creating thousands of jobs while i'm at it.
and yes, taking my cut, of course.
which i don't see as a negative thing in any way whatsoever.
especially since i'm overflowing with positive job creation ideas.
which, me having more than $0, said job creation abilities will tend
to have a much better chance of getting to market.
> >and this t-shirt goes much further than most in its message because
> >there's a specific goal behind buying the shirt itself:
>
> >to create thousands of jobs (while giving Rush Limbaugh the bitter
> >fruit of his contempt-mongering labor).
>
> > http://www.IAmHelpingToCreateJobsInAmerica.com
>
> >that's a simple fact of the purchase of the shirt.
>
> >there's no indoctrination at all.
>
> >not one scintilla.
>
> >it's a movement created to create jobs and it utterly succeeds one
> >shirt sale at a time.
>
> >> >The motivation to buy is inherent in the shirt itself.
>
> >precisely.
>
> >but it needs to be explained or demonstrated in order to fully
> >understand it before that will happen on its own.
>
> >like almost anything.
>
> >> >To put it
> >> >another way, someone who'd buy the shirt has already come to a
> >> >conclusion about Rush
>
> >it's not about Rush, actually, it's about effectively countering his
> >totally negative effect on the economy as realized through his
> >indoctrinating 20 million dittoheads a week into rooting against the
> >American economy.
>
> I don't think it needs to be countered with a t-shirt campaign,
"need" is a funny word.
but, even so, obviously, i think you're wrong.
> I think it's a self-defeating stance he's taken on and time
> will do the work.
well, certainly.
and this campaign is part of that natural work.
it certainly couldn't have happened without him.
> >as well as his constant rooting against common sense itself.
>
> >> > and doesn't need further indoctrination.
>
> >indoctrination?
>
> >yikes.
>
> >is that how you see it?
>
> >you think that exposing a vicious dishonest self-serving fraud is
> >somehow indoctrination?
>
> >and creating thousands of jobs using irony, that's indoctrination?
>
> >i don't get it, dude.
>
> I think you might've lost track of the attributions.
no.
i was responding to both of you in the same post.
to save time.
> >> >Reminds me, a friend gave me a tee shirt from an Alcoholics Anonymous
> >> >convention. I said, "What am I supposed to do with this? Wear it?"
>
> >do you wear any tee shirts?
>
> >if so, which ones?
>
> >in any case, if you're a proud alcoholic, i suppose i could see why
> >you might wear that shirt.
>
> >otherwise, not.
>
> >> >Is it surprising that AA has conventions? It surprised me.
>
> >nothing surprises me anymore.
>
> >not even Liberals pointlessly poo pooing an anti-dittohead shirt.
>
> >i'm utterly unsurprisable.
>
> >it's freeing.
>
> >> >DB
>
> >> I'm thinking you don't defeat a mocker by becoming a mocker mocker.
>
> >fact: if you mock the dishonest mocker honestly, you defeat the
> >dishonest mocker.
>
> >that's the whole purpose of satire.
>
> I'm not a big fan of satire that draws attention to a negative
> phenomenon that would wither without the satire to feed it.
dude, i'm not the one who drew MAJOR fucking attention to this thing.
i'm just an obscure marginalized smartass on interwebs.
and the attention continues on all the news coverage, day in, day out.
that's not me working those cameras.
and you're absolutely nuts if you think it will whither without
addressing it.
that's like Gandhi saying:
"we don't need to march to the ocean and make salt.
the British will just leave if we ignore them."
opportunities like this arise, you take them.
this shirt is the Rosa Parks of the Dittohead world.
> >otherwise, the dishonest mocker's audience grows instead of shrinks.
>
> >precisely because of their use of dishonesty and the fact that it is
> >not being disputed.
>
> >see how that works?
>
> Kind of like the economic statistics the federal government pumps out
> about how the rate of new unemployment claims is decreasing, and
> people are supposed to *believe* that all the people not applying are
> employed, that none have fallen off the rolls because there have been
> no jobs for them?
exactly.
except, you see, Rush has 20 million enthusiastic gullible nits
echoing his nonsense, daily, completely unopposed by any remotely
sensible argument.
this campaign counters that idiotic phenomenon, eventually attempting
to gently deprogram the gullible fools with a massive flood of green-
shirted irony in their eyesight.
> >-$Zero...
>
> > i don't consider
> > my long-winded
> > overly non-concise
> > stand up comedy routine
> > to be "preaching".
> > http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/cddb2f92f79cd8f9
>
> > Because a word to the foolish is definitely not sufficient.
> > http://RejectTheBrainwash.com
>
> I hope you succeed in making lots of money,
thanks.
me, too.
i will have earned it.
> because that seems to be what it's about.
well, money has it's uses, sure.
being a penniless creative genius for the last decade or so, i can
certainly vouch for that.
> If it's about helping America, I think "Hate Limburger" isn't the key.
i've never once advocated hating Limbaugh.
all i've done is put a satirical mirror up to his own idiotic hopes
for Obama's failure.
and in doing so, to his horror, i've created a mechanism for creating
THOUSANDS of jobs, which will help inspire the American economy well
beyond those specific jobs, if i have my way, anyway.
hate Limbaugh?
i want to give the poor stupid hateful bastard a big thankful hug.
he's totally outdone himself this time.
but it wouldn't be at all wise to let this opportunity pass by
ignoring it.
because if left to his own devices and substantial influence and
power, he's cunning enough (and dishonest enough) to twist it all back
into his own advantage.
and that would have disastrous effects on America.
this campaign will prevent that by creating thousands of jobs from his
contempt-mongering sloth.
right in the light of day, where he can no longer hide his idiotic
bullshit.
thanking him for it.
...
with all of that wealth, he does absolutely nothing that is positive
by any stretch of the imagination.
so i mean to help him along the positive creativity Peace, Love, and
Understanding oriented path, whether he likes it or not.
clearly he does not like such stuff.
he's done way too much damage to America with his contempt-mongering.
i mean, on top of it all, he was instrumental in getting Bush
"elected", remember?
and he was largely responsible for the ongoing squelching of sensible
dissent during W's totally destructive reign.
-$Zero...
Alan Hope
>On Mar 22, 6:27 pm, Alan Hope <usenet.ident...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> $Zero goes:
>>
>> >anyway, IMO, it doesn't need to be 100% American made, as long it it
>> >ends up creating thousands of American jobs while not decreasing same.
>> >though i am trying to do my best to have the highest percentage
>> >feasible in that regard.
>>
>> Uh-oh. I spy a weasel.
>
>no weasel.
>
>i'm not an isolationist, Alan.
You want to claim it's all-American while that may not be true.
>i believe in free trade as long as it's reasonably fair.
>the purpose of the overall company/organization is to improve things
>in general.
Why claim it's creating American jobs, then? How does a T-shirt made
somewhere else create even one American job?
>and have fun doing it.
>Peace, Love, and Understanding, Dude.
>creativity. ingenuity.
>anyway, the purpose of this particular project regarding Rush Limbaugh
>is to create jobs in America while effectively corking the blatherings
>of contempt monger asshole's like him by showing what a traitor he is
>to America by hoping that Obama fails, so much so that Rush is rooting
>against the American economy.
Yes, I know what the purpose is. I lost several hours of my life on
your manifesto.
>so there's a focus here that requires that American jobs take
>priority.
I think it's pushing it a bit to talk of "focus".
>which is why i will be doing my best to make sure that purchases we
>make along the way don't grossly undermine the American economy in any
>way.
But they may undermine it in a minor way. There goes that weasel
again.
Hey, why not sell American T-shirts? It can be done. American Apparel
does it.
>win win.
Get fucked, Zero. You want to make some pocket change selling a
st00pid T-shirt. You're not fucking George Soros. You're not going to
turn the economy around.
>instead of win lose.
>-$Zero...
> Barack Obama -- 21st Century Gandhi
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/6fa0a6c9583bb04d
Alan Hope
danger...@gmail.com
> > 2. those 20M people will still worship Rush no matter what you do or
> > how many tee shirts you print
>
> that's defeatist talk.
Let's see-- A list of the conservatives who've been converted to
liberals by a tee shirt (or a website):
1.
Okay, that's all I've got. Add some more.
A liberal is a conservative who's been fired, and had his 401(k)
looted, his house foreclosed and his car repo'd.
> buy a shirt, create a job.
In China.
DB
Alan Hope
>On Mar 22, 6:40 pm, dangerousb...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Mar 22, 3:25 pm, Alan Hope <usenet.ident...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > $Zero goes:
>>
>> > >need as much feed back as you can possibly afford.
>>
>> > Nobody is ever going to read that page. Here's my advice: STFU and
>> > sell a T-shirt.
>>
>> As painful as it is, I find myself agreeing with AH.
>
>that's why i'm here asking for tweaks.
>
>so let's hear some.
>
>if you were trying to sell 20 million shirts in one year, how would
>you do it?
Come up with 10 million different designs. There are sites out there
doing that.
You have one. It's not very good.
>what would you say?
>and what is it about the essay i posted that does not help to sell the
>20 million shirts?
It's an essay. You're selling T-shirts.
>what would you take out?
All of it.
>try rewriting the thing into a simple couple of sentences to make it
>much more conscise.
A couple of sentences is too much. Why not let the T speak for itself.
If someone wants one with that slogan, you don't need to preach to
them. If they don't already get it, they're not going to stick around
long enough for your rambling bullshit to get through.
>i'll even pay you for this service, if you require such a motivation.
No you won't, because you're as broke as a broke indigent with no
money.
>if stimulating the American economy while mocking that hate monger
>Rush Limbaugh into an embarrassed silence is not enough motivation for
>you.
You're not stimulating the US economy, you've already as good as
admitted your Ts are made abroad.
>IOW: i welcome all suggestions as to how to improve Project Improve.
Scrap it and either sell T-shirts or sell acres of wordage.
>the ball is in your court.
>let's see you improve upon that.
Hey asshole, where do you get this challenge tone in your voice from?
You're asking people to help YOU pay YOUR rent, and now it's a test
for everyone else?
Tell you what: go fuck yourself. You make your rent and I'll make
mine. Difference between us: I don't need to ask strangers how I might
get my job done to earn a living.
You're like Bubbles on The Wire, but without his initiative. Some
creative genius: thought up one crap slogan for one T-shirt. Move over
Bill Gates!
Alan Hope
>they need to know what an iPod is actually for.
iPods do something. You're selling a fucking T-shirt. Get over
yourself. You haven't invented the wheel, you puffed-up jerk.
Alan Hope
>and this t-shirt goes much further than most in its message because
>there's a specific goal behind buying the shirt itself:
>
>to create thousands of jobs
You're a fucking liar.
Alan Hope
>it's about using a communication medium (the t-shirt itself) to create
>thousands of jobs.
Where are your T-shirts made?
Towse
> You're like Bubbles on The Wire, but without his initiative. Some
> creative genius: thought up one crap slogan for one T-shirt. Move over
> Bill Gates!
He had another design last fall.
$Zero, the essay is crap. It makes you look like a deranged nutcase.
Sell T-shirts or start a blog that is entertaining enough that people
would read it and then sell ads on the site.
People don't go to T-shirt sales sites to read prolonged and boring rants.
--
Sal
Ye olde swarm of links: thousands of links for writers, researchers and
the terminally curious <http://writers.internet-resources.com>
$Zero
> $Zero goes:
>
> >On Mar 22, 6:27 pm, Alan Hope <usenet.ident...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> $Zero goes:
>
> >> >anyway, IMO, it doesn't need to be 100% American made, as long it it
> >> >ends up creating thousands of American jobs while not decreasing same.
> >> >though i am trying to do my best to have the highest percentage
> >> >feasible in that regard.
>
> >> Uh-oh. I spy a weasel.
>
> >no weasel.
>
> >i'm not an isolationist, Alan.
>
> You want to claim it's all-American while that may not be true.
no, that would be you. not me.
you're doing your darndest (again) to undermine this latest project
instead of generously trying to help.
therefore, you're enabling asswipes like Limbaugh.
hope you're proud of yourself for making Skippy et al so happy.
taking the load of work off their backs like that.
what a sweetheart.
> >i believe in free trade as long as it's reasonably fair.
> >the purpose of the overall company/organization is to
> >improve things in general.
>
> Why claim it's creating American jobs, then?
because it's true.
20 million t-shirts sold would mean thousands of American jobs.
> How does a T-shirt made
> somewhere else create even one American job?
who said it was made somewhere else?
only you.
but even if it _were_ made somewhere else, that would not mean that
any American jobs were lost because of it.
and if you had the reading comprehension of a second grader you would
have seen a handy bullet list of all of the jobs created thru the sale
of the 20 million t-shirts that we're going to sell over the course of
the next year.
but you'd rather ignore the facts because your nose is busy buried up
Skippy's ass.
> >and have fun doing it.
> >Peace, Love, and Understanding, Dude.
> >creativity. ingenuity.
> >anyway, the purpose of this particular project regarding Rush Limbaugh
> >is to create jobs in America while effectively corking the blatherings
> >of contempt monger asshole's like him by showing what a traitor he is
> >to America by hoping that Obama fails, so much so that Rush is rooting
> >against the American economy.
>
> Yes, I know what the purpose is. I lost several hours of my life on
> your manifesto.
well, at least you still have a great sense of humor.
that counts for something.
> >so there's a focus here that requires that American jobs take
> >priority.
>
> I think it's pushing it a bit to talk of "focus".
LOL
anyway, again, i refer you to the handy dandy bullet list of job
creation that seems to have been beyond your ability to comprehend.
> >which is why i will be doing my best to make sure that purchases we
> >make along the way don't grossly undermine the American economy in any
> >way.
>
> But they may undermine it in a minor way. There goes that weasel
> again.
i stand by my statement.
i operate in the realms of business reality, not cheap shots.
this 20 million shirts campaign will help the American economy a
zillion times more than Rush Limbaugh ever has.
creating thousands of American jobs and losing not a single one.
and certainly not talking down the economy like he now does daily in a
desperate hope for Obama to fail.
> Hey, why not sell American T-shirts? It can be done. American Apparel
> does it.
who says i'm not gonna sell American t-shirts? only you.
the question is, why?
what is your motive?
huh?
> >win win.
>
> Get fucked, Zero.
oh.
>You want to make some pocket change selling a
> st00pid T-shirt.
um, no. i'm launching a major fucking campaign to expose that self--
serving asshole Limbaugh for what he is while creating thousands of
American jobs in the process, in his "honor".
it's an act of creative genius.
kinda the opposite of what you're busy doing.
> You're not fucking George Soros.
well, duh.
i never claimed to be financially wealthy, did i?
>You're not going to turn the economy around.
shows how much you know about American Ingenuity.
and business.
> >instead of win lose.
>
> >-$Zero...
> > Barack Obama -- 21st Century Gandhi
> > http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/6fa0a6c9583bb04d
> > http://PollThis.com
>
> --
> AHhttp://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com
-$Zero...
$Zero
> Alan Hope wrote:
> > You're like Bubbles on The Wire, but without his initiative. Some
> > creative genius: thought up one crap slogan for one T-shirt. Move over
> > Bill Gates!
>
> He had another design last fall.
inspired by you.
yep.
> $Zero, the essay is crap.
nope.
> It makes you look like a deranged nutcase.
well, that's what i am, haven't you heard?
it's in all the backchannel memos.
> Sell T-shirts or start a blog that is entertaining enough that
> people would read it and then sell ads on the site.
i'll do both if that's all right with you, Missy.
> People don't go to T-shirt sales sites to read prolonged and boring rants.
Gawd.
the tunnel vision of people like you.
"T-shirt sales sites"
nothing innovative ever happens thinking like that.
dearcilla
>
> Why claim it's creating American jobs, then? How does a T-shirt made
> somewhere else create even one American job?
>
Suppose it's made in Thailand. The Thai workers need baht. So when you
pay for a shirt in dollars, the dollars get traded for baht to someone
who needs dollars. They use the dollars to buy American exports.
So your dollars create American jobs at exactly the same rate as if
you bought a "domestic" shirt. It's just that they create jobs at
exporters rather than companies producing for the domestic market.
Alan Hope
>On Mar 23, 6:23 pm, Alan Hope <usenet.ident...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> $Zero goes:
>> >On Mar 22, 6:27 pm, Alan Hope <usenet.ident...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> $Zero goes:
>> >> >anyway, IMO, it doesn't need to be 100% American made, as long it it
>> >> >ends up creating thousands of American jobs while not decreasing same.
>> >> >though i am trying to do my best to have the highest percentage
>> >> >feasible in that regard.
>> >> Uh-oh. I spy a weasel.
>> >no weasel.
>> >i'm not an isolationist, Alan.
>> You want to claim it's all-American while that may not be true.
>no, that would be you. not me.
>you're doing your darndest (again) to undermine this latest project
>instead of generously trying to help.
>therefore, you're enabling asswipes like Limbaugh.
>hope you're proud of yourself for making Skippy et al so happy.
>taking the load of work off their backs like that.
>what a sweetheart.
You asked for criticism. Don't be such a whining cry-baby when you get
some.
>> >i believe in free trade as long as it's reasonably fair.
>> >the purpose of the overall company/organization is to
>> >improve things in general.
>> Why claim it's creating American jobs, then?
>because it's true.
>20 million t-shirts sold would mean thousands of American jobs.
How does that work? If they're not US made, where are the jobs?
>> How does a T-shirt made
>> somewhere else create even one American job?
>who said it was made somewhere else?
>only you.
You very carefully didn't say they were made in the USA.
>but even if it _were_ made somewhere else, that would not mean that
>any American jobs were lost because of it.
But it means none are created or saved.
>and if you had the reading comprehension of a second grader you would
>have seen a handy bullet list of all of the jobs created thru the sale
>of the 20 million t-shirts that we're going to sell over the course of
>the next year.
I have my limits, and reading an entire list by you is above and
beyond.
>but you'd rather ignore the facts because your nose is busy buried up
>Skippy's ass.
You're pathetic. Let's just remind ourselves: you're selling T-shirts
to put money in your own pocket.
>> >and have fun doing it.
>> >Peace, Love, and Understanding, Dude.
>> >creativity. ingenuity.
>> >anyway, the purpose of this particular project regarding Rush Limbaugh
>> >is to create jobs in America while effectively corking the blatherings
>> >of contempt monger asshole's like him by showing what a traitor he is
>> >to America by hoping that Obama fails, so much so that Rush is rooting
>> >against the American economy.
>> Yes, I know what the purpose is. I lost several hours of my life on
>> your manifesto.
>well, at least you still have a great sense of humor.
>that counts for something.
>> >so there's a focus here that requires that American jobs take
>> >priority.
>> I think it's pushing it a bit to talk of "focus".
>LOL
>anyway, again, i refer you to the handy dandy bullet list of job
>creation that seems to have been beyond your ability to comprehend.
It's bullshit. In what kind of dream-world are you going to achieve 20
million sales with one T-shirt? It's not clever, it's not hip, it's
not funny, it's not edgy, it has nothing to commend it.
>> >which is why i will be doing my best to make sure that purchases we
>> >make along the way don't grossly undermine the American economy in any
>> >way.
>> But they may undermine it in a minor way. There goes that weasel
>> again.
>i stand by my statement.
>i operate in the realms of business reality, not cheap shots.
>this 20 million shirts
Business reality, eh? 20 million Ts? Reality. Not on this planet.
>campaign will help the American economy a
>zillion times more than Rush Limbaugh ever has.
That's saying nothing.
>creating thousands of American jobs and losing not a single one.
>and certainly not talking down the economy like he now does daily in a
>desperate hope for Obama to fail.
>> Hey, why not sell American T-shirts? It can be done. American Apparel
>> does it.
>who says i'm not gonna sell American t-shirts? only you.
You said it, by not saying you were. You stepped very gingerly around
the question.
>the question is, why?
>what is your motive?
>huh?
Okay, answer the question: where are your T-shirts made?
>> >win win.
>> Get fucked, Zero.
>oh.
>>You want to make some pocket change selling a
>> st00pid T-shirt.
>um, no. i'm launching a major fucking campaign to expose that self--
>serving asshole Limbaugh for what he is while creating thousands of
>American jobs in the process, in his "honor".
And the profits? Where do they go?
>it's an act of creative genius.
Oh, so people are free to forget about paying and just send you their
admiration. Or do you insist on money?
>kinda the opposite of what you're busy doing.
>> You're not fucking George Soros.
>well, duh.
>i never claimed to be financially wealthy, did i?
Indeed. Wealthy people tend not to be found flogging cheap, dull
T-shirts.
>>You're not going to turn the economy around.
>shows how much you know about American Ingenuity.
>and business.
Fuck.
Get back to me when this turns out to be another of your doomed
hairbrained schemes. Be sure to blame it on saboteurs.
Alan Hope
Remind me what American exports your Thai sweatshop workers are
clamouring for.
Alan Hope
>especially since i'm overflowing with positive job creation ideas.
Creating jobs for psychiatric personnel, maybe. You're fucking nuts.
One T-shirt is going to create one job? I don't think so. 20 million
Ts won't create even 20 jobs. Do you know how those things are
produced?
Alan Hope
>On Mar 22, 6:25 pm, Alan Hope <usenet.ident...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> $Zero goes:
>> >need as much feed back as you can possibly afford.
>> Nobody is ever going to read that page.
>well, that may be true, but if so, it will be because of the continued
>censorship those asswipes have been dishonestly engaging in.
>SOP.
No, pal. It's because your writing is as dull as dirt, because your
message is deranged and irrelevant, and because the only people even
remotely interested in such a T don't need a madman to preach to them.
>> Here's my advice: STFU and sell a T-shirt.
>good advice.
>but shirts don't sell themselves, Alan.
>because firstly, people have to know that they are for sale.
Okay, so get on with it.
>censorship prevents all that, unfortunately.
>so the first thing required is to get around the censorship.
We all saw the site, Zero. It's not censored. Wait until something
actually happens before blaming it for your latest failure.
>anyway, the whole purpose of the sales of this shirt is to stimulate
>the American economy which is being sabotaged by Limbaugh and his ilk.
Fuck off with that bullshit. The only economy that stands a chance of
being stimulated is the one in your trouser pocket.
>so it would not be wise to STFU about that.
>get it?
>it's all part of the marketing strategy.
A strategy guaranteed to turn off customers. SOP
>> Other sites manage it without a manifesto.
>Gawd.
>it's not a manifesto, Dude.
>it's a marketing strategy.
It reads like a manifesto: crashingly dull.
>and fun.
Certainly not.
>> What makes you think people need to be preached at?
>i don't consider my long-winded overly non-concise stand up comedy
>routine to be "preaching".
Stand-up? You are so divorced from reality, dude.
>it's poking fun at those who preach unjustifiable contempt of others
>for their own self-serving gains at the expense of everyone else.
No, there's not an ounce of fun in it.
>YMMV.
>(your mockery may vary).
I.B.Larfin
>On Mar 23, 6:23 pm, Alan Hope <usenet.ident...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Why claim it's creating American jobs, then? How does a T-shirt made
>> somewhere else create even one American job?
>>
>
>Suppose it's made in Thailand. The Thai workers need baht. So when you
>pay for a shirt in dollars, the dollars get traded for baht to someone
>who needs dollars. They use the dollars to buy American exports.
I doubt that "they use the dollars to buy American exports".
I don't think the US is exporting much in the way of consumer goods
anymore. Earth moving equipment, airplanes, weapons systems, things
like that perhaps but not consumer goods.
Look around you, see what things you buy as a consumer that say "Made
In USA" on them. What, a pair of Klein electrician's pliers? You're
paying extra, the less costly ones are made in China. Most of the
consumer goods we buy are, as best I can tell, imported.
Those manufacturing jobs were not providing the workers with
sufficient income to pay their cost of living here in the US. They
must pay the landlord's mortgage and provide him with an income stream
after all, it's what they're for. That lot of jobs has been
outsourced to workers in countries with lower costs of living so the
companies involved can make a profit for their speculators, especially
those in executive positions.
--
promote flatulence!
I.B.Larfin
I'd question what you mean by "that" but you've previously explained
that 'that' is the last thing referenced, so you think that "even the
best have moments of failing" is bullshit? Which gods then have you
been observing to come to the conclusion that any man lives or has
ever lived who had no moments of failing?
--
promote flatulence!
dearcilla
The dollars get traded to _anyone_ who wants American exports, not
necessarily Thai. Maybe they're Germans who want to purchase services
from my company.
If the dollars _couldn't_ be traded and _wouldn't_ "create jobs", then
the Thai (and everybody else) _wouldn't_ accept them.
Buying foreign-labeled goods and services creates American jobs just
as much as buying American labeled goods and services.
dearcilla
> dearcilla <dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 23, 6:23 pm, Alan Hope <usenet.ident...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Why claim it's creating American jobs, then? How does a T-shirt made
> >> somewhere else create even one American job?
>
> >Suppose it's made in Thailand. The Thai workers need baht. So when you
> >pay for a shirt in dollars, the dollars get traded for baht to someone
> >who needs dollars. They use the dollars to buy American exports.
>
> I doubt that "they use the dollars to buy American exports".
"THEY" DOES NOT REFER TO THE THAI WORKERS! REREAD THE FUCKING
SENTENCE.
The Thai workers get baht, and they spend it locally.
>
> I don't think the US is exporting much in the way of consumer goods
> anymore. Earth moving equipment, airplanes, weapons systems, things
> like that perhaps but not consumer goods.
>
> Look around you, see what things you buy as a consumer that say "Made
> In USA" on them. What, a pair of Klein electrician's pliers? You're
> paying extra, the less costly ones are made in China. Most of the
> consumer goods we buy are, as best I can tell, imported.
You've been brainwashed to believe that the _last_ step of _final_
assembly of _a consumer good_ is the only part of manufacturing that
matters. That is profoundly stupid.
I.B.Larfin
I.B.Larfin
China wants the dollar to go away.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7960620.stm
Alan Hope
wantt...@gmail.com
> On Mar 23, 7:21 am, I.B.Larfin <stutstutter...@theclowns.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> $Zero goes:
>
> > >> >need as much feed back as you can possibly afford.
>
> > >> Nobody is ever going to read that page.
>
> > >well, that may be true, but if so, it will be because of the continued
> > >censorship those asswipes have been dishonestly engaging in.
>
> > >SOP.
>
>
> > >good advice.
>
> > >but shirts don't sell themselves, Alan.
>
>
> i've already got orders for those shirts, dude.
>
> but you wouldn't believe what i've had to go thru every step of the
> way to get around the censorship (and still do) and whatnot so that
> people have the opportunity to know that the shirts exist to be
> purchased.
>
> in fact, the idiotic Limbaugh contingent is so thoroughly entrenched
> that when i went to the first screen printer on my list with a wad of
> cash to have the shirts printed up, the guy actually declined.
>
> my jaw literally dropped.
>
> though i soon saw the sublime humor of it all.
>
> you should have heard the flow of bizarre excuses coming out of his
> mouth.
>
> and dramatically changing with each objection that i fielded from him,
> explaining why his objection was invalid.
>
> it was absolutely hilarious.
>
> i wish i had brought a video camera.
>
> it would have been a youtube wonder.
>
> this is near the end of the visit:
>
> ...
>
> him: "I'd have to speak to Rush first"
>
> moi: "ok. i'll call his production company and have them verify for
> you that the cartoon is not his property... "
>
> him: "no, i'd have to talk to Rush, himself, personally."
>
> moi: "you're joking, right?"
>
> him: "no."
>
> and he wasn't joking, either.
>
> he was serious.
>
> i laughed all the way home.
>
> ...
>
> lesson learned:
>
> never attempt to do rational business with a Dittohead.
>
> ...
>
> unless, of course, you bring your video camera.
>
> -$Zero... <---http://www.iamnotadittohead.com
>
> total peace of mind
> can't be far behind
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/6a6b7614a23e5843
>
> http://www.dittofed.com
Hello Mr. (or Ms.) $Zero. I am a new member here who has been reading
this thread with much interest and would like to offer you
encouragements. You should not let yourself be put off by these gloomy
gusses and their nitpickings. This idea of yours of putting catchy
slogans on articles of clothing is a humdinger. I can't believe no one
thought of it before. Not only will such decorated clothing be a
fashion statement, but it will also be a way to get people to read
your writing, as it is well known that many powerful people who wear
clothes know how to read. So that a tee shirt emblazoned with a witty
slogan like "Rush Limbaugh is fat" or "George Bush is not very smart"
are sure to persuade people to reexamine their beliefs and values. I
bet if anyone had thought of this before such as Shakespeare he would
have printed his books on tee shirts of the print was small enough or
the people wearing the shirts were fat.
One only wishes that someone smart had come up with this concept
sooner, there might have been many lives saved. For example, if the
Jews in 1930 had been smart enough to make a yamulke or something that
said maybe "Arbeit and no play mach frei a dull goy" (or something,
I'm not a writer or poet like you) there might not have been a
holocaust. Or for example in earlier times a fashionable windbreaker
that said "Attilla the hun is no fun" in reference to the crazed
mongoloid killer Attilla (the hun) might have dissuaded the
fourmentioned mongoloid from invading wherever he invaded (I'm not
sure where) and or warned the invadeds that they were being invaded
such that they might have better prepared themselves for their
troubles.
I don't want to piggy back on your innovative idea of putting slogans
on articles of clothing, but it occurs to me that there are many other
types of things that could be written on to great effect, such as
coffee cups, which have lots of room for slogans and would also give
people something to read while they were having their coffee or tea if
they were English. Or for example many people who wear clothing also
drive cars and you might be able to think of a way to use this
sloganeering idea in the transportation field, perhaps by adding some
sort of adhesive to the tee shirt and gluing it to the bumper and
calling them bumper shirts, although that's not a very clever name. Or
you could try tying to the antenna unless the car has one of those
antennas that's in the windshield or a CD player.
Anyway keep up the good work and keep thinking of these ideas of yours
which are good. Many famous geniuses were abject and utter failures
before they came up with their big ideas such as with Thomas Einstein
and his invention of the lightbulb and that might be the case with you
and your invention of the tee shirt with writing on it. Good luck.
$Zero
Gawd.
look how much time people still invest in kookifying moi.
i mean, like whoa.
does it really seem necessary anymore?
haven't i been filly enough marginalized in your view?
i guess not.
hence these constant attempts.
well, keep up the "good" work.
meanwhile, i'll keep up the good work.
now, FRO, k?
oh, and you might want to go back toithe top of qwhat you quoted here
to try and explain why the t-shirt printer refused to take the rather
large t-shirt-printing order.
cash in hand.
good luck with that one, mother fucker.
-$Zero...
Desperate Dittoheads
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/85c498ce5e028ddf
POLL -- Would You Like to See 20 Million Shirts Sold
Mocking Rush Limbaugh... While Creating Thousands of
American Jobs in The Process... Stimulating the American
Economy in a Positive Hilarious Entrepreneurial Way?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/b4982f416ad0d450
Mark
>
> - Show quoted text -
LOL!
Could I interest you in a bottle of my
Rogaine for beavers?
Save the beaver, save the planet.
(And to Zero...)
I'm all for ya dude, but I have to admit that
I was a little disappointed when I found out
you'd not found a way to "tweak time", as
the title of your post suggests.
Most folks here know that I reject the concept
of linear progression as it relates to time and
see it more as an unfolding awareness of an
alternate dimension. If we can simply change the rate of
perception I believe we can "tweak time".
Oh well.
---
Mark
---
Mark
$Zero
dude, i'm gonna be selling 20 million shirts.
20 million.
creating thousands of jobs while exposing that fucking contempt-
mongering liar Limbaugh for the greedy dishonest envious hate
mongering twat that he is.
20 million shirts sold to counter 20 million gullible dittoheads.
20 million people investing in their hopes and their point of view.
linear time or otherwise.
bank on it.
it's going to happen.
and there's not one thing that you or anyone else can do to stop it.
Limbaugh trotts out things like Operation Chaos.
now he's going to have to deal with Operation Order.
i can't wait for him to completely snap, on the air.
it's going to be hilarious.
karma has already taken away 90% of his hearing.
wantt...@gmail.com
Hello again Mr (or Ms) $Zero (which is it?). Thank you for taking the
time from your tee shirt business to reply to my "blogging." I must
admit that I was a tad off put by the language that you used, such as
the potty mouth expressions and especially the so called eff bomb. I
realize that this in the internets and that such vulgarities are
commonplace, but personally I find them distasteful, as I do midget
porn and and movies of women having sex with donkeys and goats, which
are also commonplace on the internets, no matter how comely the women
or short the midgets. But I also realize that persons of your
generation, which was weaned on the MTV have different sensibilities
and I am willing to look over these things for now. In addition, I
take it from your speaking French (I had to look up the word "moi,"
for which bit of learnedness I thank you) that you might be from a
foreign country, where morals are more lax than they are here where I
live (Iowa). Although I have never been to France I hear that it is
quite a loose country where people are free to not shave or bathe for
weeks on end, so maybe using curse words is okay as well.
I was also somewhat off put by your tone, which I took as hostile. It
may be that you were engaging in some witty repart similar to the
witty expressions you are putting on your line of tee shirts and that
I did not fully get the humor. Often when I am at the Grange Hall for
all you can eat spaghetti dinners on Thursdays I do not understand
many of the jokes that are told and people laugh at until they are
explained to me after which sometimes I laugh if they are funny.
Obviously I cannot be certain why a particular vendor refused your
offer to purchase a quantity of tee shirts. It is a shame that you did
not have a video camera, as you said, as that might have shed some
light on the matter. I know that where I live certain retailers have
signs on their premises by which they reserve the right to refuse
service to people who are not wearing shoes and shirts. These signs
say something like "No shoes, no shirt, no sandwhiches." Is it
possible that the tee shirt person you approached had such a sign and
that you were inappropriately clothed? That would make sense that a
tee shirt seller would have a sign like that, so that if you were not
wearing a shirt and wanted to buy a shirt you would have to buy an
extra one to wear while you were buying the other one, which would be
an extra profit. Or for example if the sign said no shoes and you were
wearing sandals that might be viewed as a violation if the
requirements were read strictly. I could not tell you for sure, as I
do not wear sandals due to the fact that I lost two of my toes due to
a thresher accident when I was younger and I find the sight of my feet
untidy. This is especially true at the Bobs Big Boy, if people are
trying to have their lunches. I certainly would not like to eat
chicken fried steaks fingers while looking at someones feet with no
toes, due to the unpleasant associations, not to mention that I am
lactose intolerant.
$Zero
> On Mar 25, 11:39 am, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 25, 9:13 am, wanttori...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Mar 23, 9:10 am, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Mar 23, 7:21 am, I.B.Larfin <stutstutter...@theclowns.net> wrote:
> > > > > "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >On Mar 22, 6:25 pm, Alan Hope <usenet.ident...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> $Zero goes:
[...]
> Hello again Mr (or Ms) $Zero (which is it?).
what's your prefeernce?
the t-shirt-making guy was a dittoheaded twat.
i walked up to the counter and he asked how many shirts i needed
printed up.
about 500 to start, i told him, while pulling out my wad of cash.
he then asked what i wanted on the shirts.
i gave him the address to the website that had the design on it.
he walked over to his computer in the back of the store and loaded it
up.
when the image came up the screen, the look on his face changed and he
backed up a little.
"You're insulting Rush Limbaugh"
yes. i replied.
he began nodding in disapproval.
"That's a pretty serious thing you're doing."
no,it isn't. i'm making fun of Rush Limbaugh. it's satire.
"Uh... I don't think I can do this."
why not? i asked.
perplexed, he began summoning his pea brain for some sort of excuse.
"That is clearly Rush Limbaugh"
yes, i said. nice likeness,isn't it?
"Well, you're saying that you hope he fails."
yep. that's what i'm doing.
"Well, people might take it seriously."
i was laughing at this point.
"I don't want Rush coming after me, he may not see it as satire."
excuse me?
"He could sue me."
why would he sue you? this is America. it's called Free Speech. he's a
public figure who's made a complete ass out of himself. anyway, you're
just printing what i want printed. if anything, he'd sue me. but he
won't because he'd have absolutely no case whatsoever.
"And where did you get this cartoon?"
i hired someone to create it. out of NYC.
"Well, i can't print someone else's artwork."
it's not someone else's artwork.
it's mine. i commissioned it. i own it.
"How do i know that?"
i'll have the artist call you if you like. he's the one who will be
sending you the file.
"It looks too much like Rush."
so?
"Well, i can't print Rush's image. His likeness is his property. He'd
sue me out of business. He has lots of money."
no. he'd have no case whatsoever.
it's a cartoon. he's a public figure.
it's mocking his stupid statement.
not to mention that suing you would make him look like a complete free-
speech-hating asshole and hypocrite, which would make things way worse
for him.
"I can't print this."
why?
"he has too much power."
this is America, dude. nobody has that much power.
i know quite a bit about copyright law.
("as should you, nit wit" i thought to myself)
he'd have no case whatsoever.
besides, Rush would probably get a kick out of this.
"I'd have to hear that from Rush himself."
etc. etc. etc.
Ray Haddad
>Hello Mr. (or Ms.) $Zero. I am a new member here who has been reading
>this thread with much interest and would like to offer you
>encouragements. You should not let yourself be put off by these gloomy
>gusses and their nitpickings. This idea of yours of putting catchy
>slogans on articles of clothing is a humdinger. I can't believe no one
>thought of it before.
Thousands have thought of it before. Most failed because of the words
on the shirts and not the concept.
--
Ray
Alan Hope
>dude, i'm gonna be selling 20 million shirts.
Sure thing, Bubs.
Alan Hope
>On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:13:24 -0700 (PDT), wantt...@gmail.com wrote:
>>Hello Mr. (or Ms.) $Zero. I am a new member here who has been reading
>>this thread with much interest and would like to offer you
>>encouragements. You should not let yourself be put off by these gloomy
>>gusses and their nitpickings. This idea of yours of putting catchy
>>slogans on articles of clothing is a humdinger. I can't believe no one
>>thought of it before.
>Thousands have thought of it before.
Bwah! Stupid Cunt strikes again.
>Most failed because of the words
>on the shirts and not the concept.
You don't say.
$Zero
> $Zero goes:
>
> >dude, i'm gonna be selling 20 million shirts.
>
> Sure thing, Bubs.
want to make a wager?
the odds would certainly seem to be in your favor.
so pony up, cynic.
let's see what you're made of.
besides constantly poo pooing everything, that is.
put your money where your cynicism is, doubter boy.
if we go by history, it's a sure bet for you.
innit.
so c'mon, coward.
make a bet with me.
if you dare.
then go ahead and try to sabotage the campaign and see WTF happens to
you.
c'mon, tough guy. bet me.
go ahead.
i'll take any action you want.
-$Zero...
Rush Limbaugh FINALLY Talks About the DOW Again!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/26a5337a25396506
I.B.Larfin
Ray Haddad
<usenet....@gmail.com> wrote:
>Bwah! Stupid Cunt strikes again.
So you're not the Scarlet Pumpernickel any more?
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
Gee, mate, can't you even let a guy have a bit of fun with Xero?
--
Ray
dearcilla
What's crazy is the idea that dollars spent on imports are somehow
"lost" to our economy.
What's crazy is that people don't believe the international currency
markets exist.
What's crazy is that people believe foreigners would take American
money if Americans exported nothing.
What's crazy is people saying "buy American" and not realizing it
means screwing the productive, profitable American businesses in favor
of the leeches looking for a handout.
dearcilla
Ok, profoundly _ignorant_ and unwilling to _think_.
Yours seems to be the mentality of someone who has no interaction with
American business except as a consumer, who thinks that the most
important jobs in the world are like putting together lego sets, that
that is "manufacturing" and has never thought that there might be
millions of people and trillions in capital behind creating the things
that people put together.
Towse
> Do you really think fundork doesn't know that?
rEsiST thE uRge ...
--
Sal
Ye olde swarm of links: thousands of links for writers, researchers and
the terminally curious <http://writers.internet-resources.com>
I.B.Larfin
Those dollars are traded for those imports, so the US has those
imports and does not have those dollars. Of course the Treasury can
always print more dollars since the dollar is a fiat currency, so it
doesn't make a lot of difference where "those" dollars are. What
makes a difference is whether dollars will buy imports next week or
the week after. If countries believe the dollar can be traded to
someone who has something they want, they'll trade their exports to
get the dollars, and if they don't they won't.
>What's crazy is that people don't believe the international currency
>markets exist.
Has someone said they don't exist? I must have missed that. They not
only exist, they fluctuate significantly based on every news release.
One way to make big bucks in a hurry is to trade currency futures,
assuming that you have to stomach for it.
>What's crazy is that people believe foreigners would take American
>money if Americans exported nothing.
It isn't exactly about what exports are sitting on the dock, remember
it's a fiat currency and based on nothing but other countries' beliefs
that it is, or will be, worth something in the future.
>What's crazy is people saying "buy American" and not realizing it
>means screwing the productive, profitable American businesses in favor
>of the leeches looking for a handout.
The "leeches looking for a handout" are the "investors" who are
actually speculators, those who wish to live off the markets without
producing anything. It's a Ponzi scheme and those only last for so
long.
The "profitable American businesses" are the ones that send jobs
offshore to show profit numbers good enough to keep their stock prices
on the upswing until their executives have a chance to cash out on
their options.
As I recall, Enron was quite profitable until the marketplace lost
confidence that it would continue to be profitable, at which point it
went down the toilet.
What I think is "crazy" is that young people in the US seem to have
lost confidence that there will be jobs for them because of the trend
toward globalization. They don't know what to study in college that
will give them a chance at a job that won't have been globalized away
by the time they graduate.
Another thing I think is pretty "crazy" is for Bernanke to have said
from one side of his mouth that the recession should end in 2009 and
from the other side of his mouth that unemployment may well continue
to increase. His job is to be a con-man and inspire the world, but he
seems to have let the curtain hiding the little man slip a bit.
Unless of course the recession is to be felt only by the working man
who needs a job to pay his bills, those stupid sods should be trading
the market instead of working, right?
Looking at the overall economy is fine if anyone has the data that
allows them to do that. But the overall economy reflects the
situations of both the wealthy and the poor in a single clump. If the
overall economy is doing marvelously because 5% of the country is
richer than hell but 95% is starving and ready for revolution, there's
a problem. Granted those percentages are exaggerated, but even though
"investors" see only what they choose to look at you might get the
idea.
I.B.Larfin
Lose that approach because it won't work.
>Yours seems to be the mentality of someone who has no interaction with
>American business except as a consumer,
How did I spend 30 years working in American business without having
any interaction with it?
> who thinks that the most
>important jobs in the world are like putting together lego sets, that
>that is "manufacturing"
Manufacturing is boring work, dreadfully boring, but it does have
something significant going for it. It provides a way for people who
are not Nobel candidates to do something that will capture for them a
paycheck so they can give the money to their landlord. Without
manufacturing, you need to find some other way for those people to
make money for their landlords or the real-estate market will go into
the toilet. What can they do? There's only so much room behind the
counter at each burger joint, and the wealthy don't usually eat there.
> and has never thought that there might be
>millions of people and trillions in capital behind creating the things
>that people put together.
When the degree of wastage is as large as what I saw during my 30
years in the barrel, the idea of "trillions in capital" means nothing
except lots of money going into sly pockets. How many people are
cunning? When the average simpleton is told by the economy that he's
unnecessary, there is a significant problem because half the country
is below average.
Get this. The overal economic statistics include both the rich and
the poor and everyone between. The numbers in those groups make a
difference. The more people who are left without a source of income
for their landlords because of globalization, the weaker that makes
the country no matter how much money the other three people have. And
the weaker the country is seen to be, the less the dollar is worth to
other countries.
I.B.Larfin
>I.B.Larfin wrote:
>
>> Do you really think fundork doesn't know that?
>
>rEsiST thE uRge ...
And where have you been this time young lady?
South America? Asia?
Alan Hope
>On Mar 25, 7:27 pm, Alan Hope <usenet.ident...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> $Zero goes:
>>
>> >dude, i'm gonna be selling 20 million shirts.
>>
>> Sure thing, Bubs.
>
>want to make a wager?
Sure. Put me down for 20K. That gives you a margin.
>the odds would certainly seem to be in your favor.
>so pony up, cynic.
>let's see what you're made of.
>besides constantly poo pooing everything, that is.
>put your money where your cynicism is, doubter boy.
>if we go by history, it's a sure bet for you.
>innit.
>so c'mon, coward.
>make a bet with me.
>if you dare.
Who wouldn't? 20 million T-shirts? Not a fucking chance.
>then go ahead and try to sabotage the campaign and see WTF happens to
>you.
Ooooh.
>c'mon, tough guy. bet me.
>go ahead.
>i'll take any action you want.
Okay. $20,000 dollars says you don't sell 20 million T-shirts.
wantt...@gmail.com
> rEsiST thE uRge ...
Don't bother: like most stupids he's incapable of resistance. Forty
years bent to the grindstone later he noticed his nose burning and was
so frightened by the conflagration that he moved off grid. Except for
usenet, wherein he attempts to convince those from whom he allegedly
fled that his flight was praiseworthy. His opinion of the other racing
rats is such that the thought of living without their respect
engenders perpetual dyspepsia. As such he's less Ralph Waldo Emerson
than Where's Waldo Emerson: he's hiding but he wants everyone to know
where to look and in case they don't care to find him he posts his
spoor so that they can smell him at least.
I.B.Larfin
>On Mar 26, 2:04 am, Towse <s...@towse.com> wrote:
>
>> rEsiST thE uRge ...
>
>Don't bother: like most stupids he's incapable of resistance.
Actually I'm dumber than most stupids and only capable of resistance,
barely even that since it's so difficult to choose what to resist.
> Forty
>years bent to the grindstone later he noticed his nose burning
Sorry, I noticed it before I even graduated from college, but it took
a while to figure out what to do about it... remember, I'm dumber than
most stupids.
> and was
>so frightened by the conflagration that he moved off grid. Except for
>usenet, wherein he attempts to convince those from whom he allegedly
>fled that his flight was praiseworthy.
Nothing praiseworthy about getting sick of the stench.
> His opinion of the other racing
>rats is such that the thought of living without their respect
>engenders perpetual dyspepsia.
The word "other" does not apply, I stopped racing some time ago.
And that isn't dyspepsia, it's simple flatulence.
> As such he's less Ralph Waldo Emerson
>than Where's Waldo Emerson: he's hiding but he wants everyone to know
>where to look and in case they don't care to find him he posts his
>spoor so that they can smell him at least.
No, I don't want everyone to know where to look, I'm afraid of being
gang-raped by mobs of nubile young female groupies.
Now fukdoc, if you wish to duel, at least put up something a bit more
rigid than that flaccid bit of rancidity. And if you're that Mark
cunt, don't bother with even that, just fuck entirely off.
Thank you, and do remember not to get it on your hands.
dearcilla
I do not understand why it's so hard for someone like you who must
have at least a room temperature IQ to comprehend that Japanese, for
example, use yen as currency and not dollars. So the dollars you pay
for something made in Japan are immediately traded to someone who
wants to buy American stuff. Otherwise, the Japanese workers wouldn't
get paid their yen, and all international trade would immediately
stop.
If the dollars are slow to come back it's A FREE ECONOMIC STIMULUS!
It's a loan (or other investment) that adds to the size of our economy
and allows us to build more factories and create American jobs!
Buying inferior American goods is a terrible mistake, and completely
immoral EVEN ASSUMING YOUR ONLY MORAL STANDARD IS WHAT'S GOOD FOR
AMERICA. "Buy American" means only one thing in reality: destroy the
job of the competitive American worker to preserve the job of the
uncompetitive one.
The whole idea of protectionism is like trying to cut off your head
because you're afraid you're losing blood when it flows down your
jugular and being unable to comprehend the idea of a 'neck' that
connects your brain to your heart.
I.B.Larfin
It's 70F in here.
> to comprehend that Japanese, for
>example, use yen as currency and not dollars.
Well, duh?
> So the dollars you pay
>for something made in Japan are immediately traded to someone who
>wants to buy American stuff.
Wrong, most likely. The dollars are traded in the currency market to
someone who wishes to profit from the current exchange rate. They
could be purchased to cover someone's short-sale. Probably futures
contracts are involved. Beyond that first transaction their destiny
is unknowable except in terms of overall market value.
> Otherwise, the Japanese workers wouldn't
>get paid their yen, and all international trade would immediately
>stop.
Oh my gawd, no Sony products? No Toyota automobiles? AWK!
>If the dollars are slow to come back it's A FREE ECONOMIC STIMULUS!
Gawd, are you feeling naive this morning or is your room cold?
>It's a loan (or other investment) that adds to the size of our economy
>and allows us to build more factories and create American jobs!
Yes, okay, well this morning I'm not feeling much like debating the
ridiculous.
>Buying inferior American goods is a terrible mistake, and completely
>immoral EVEN ASSUMING YOUR ONLY MORAL STANDARD IS WHAT'S GOOD FOR
>AMERICA. "Buy American" means only one thing in reality: destroy the
>job of the competitive American worker to preserve the job of the
>uncompetitive one.
Listen, was there an Ayn Rand pod hidden under your bed last night?
Buying inferior goods is a bad idea because they don't work well and
don't last long, that's what categorizes them as "inferior". Most of
the "inferior" goods I've purchased lately are stamped "Made In China"
because most of the goods I've had the money to purchase have been
stamped "Made In China". I'll admit that I was less than frugal when
I purchased my Klein electrician's pliers (Made in USA), but I needed
something that works, sorry.
>The whole idea of protectionism is like trying to cut off your head
>because you're afraid you're losing blood when it flows down your
>jugular and being unable to comprehend the idea of a 'neck' that
>connects your brain to your heart.
Oh. Yes, the concept of independence is a bad thing. It prevents you
from being dependent on all the nice people out there. Shame on me
for even thinking that a country that can't take care of itself can't
take care of anyone else. I doubtless need to learn that no man is an
island and we need to snuggle up to our loving friends overseas.
There is no Osama Bin Laden he's a fiction made up by... who was it
then? Oh yeah, the head nutjob in Iran, maybe. Or those nice EU
people who pitched a fit about the possibility that the American tax
dollars committed to the stimulus plan wouldn't go into their pockets.
Well it is good advice to keep your enemies close. Storing your
throat in their jaws at bedtime might be carrying it a little far.
Sleep tight.
wantt...@gmail.com
> if you wish to duel
Yes quite, duel. Probably you'd take a brisk ten paces and then whirl
around and make fun of my screen name or summat. I doubt the heart
could stand it.