(OT) : "Flash-Mobs" as Acts of Domestic Terrorism -wrt- Shutting Down the Regime/System
RHF
> RHF wrote:
> > On Aug 16, 6:08 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
- - - Slippery slope to use "safety" as a good
- - - reason for any curtailment of freedom.
- - Where is 'That' Freedom Detailed in the US
- - a/o California Constitutions ?
- - -oops-it-ain't-
- -
- - I vote no.
- - You Are Not A Judge and You are Not a LEO
- - {TG!} : You Are Simply M4 Mania Dave !
- - .
- - .
- We have a right to peaceably assemble.
dave,,, Dave... DAVE ! ! !
Peaceable Assemble Does NOT Violate :
The Rights of Others To Their Own
Right To Life + Liberty & Freedoms [.]
-think-about-this-
Was this "Flash Mob" which was trying to
Shut-Down BART during Rush-Hour; and STRAND
Hundreds of Thousands of Bay Area Workers
-a- ? Peacefull Assemble ?
-or- ! An Act of Domestic Terrorism !
Cloward–Piven "Maoist" {-or- Fascist} Strategy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy
Overloading & Shutting Down the System*
* Attacking "The Regime" !
.
- Participating in a group discussion on
- line is protected activity.
You Have To Pay for Internet Access :
So It Is Not A 'right'
-or- so-called 'Free' Internet Access
comes with Imbedded Internet Advertising :
{Which is Indirect-Payment}
So It Is Not A 'right' either.
Dave 'You' {or "I"} Have The Right To Shout
Our Mouths Off -but- Others Have The Equal
{Corresponding} Right To NOT Listen ! ! !
.
-again- Freedom of Association Carries the
Equal {Corresponding} Right of Freedom of
Disassociation [.]
.
.
RHF
> George Plimpton wrote:
>
> > What's ridiculous about it? Do you think if you wish to harangue the
> > citizenry, the state has to put a television network at your disposal?
>
- - No, they don't.
- - If you wish to *buy* time on a network
- - for your harangue, fine.
- - But you do not have a right to propagate
- - your message at someone else's expense.
- If a station allows one side a voice for free,
- fairness demands they allow free time for an
- opposing viewpoint. They should make this a
- condition of the station license renewal.
? Dave... Where Is "Fairness Demands" In The
US Constitution !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution
.
-add-one-more-to-the-
800+ "Dave -proclaims-" Posts Here at/on Rec.Radio.Shortwave
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/81e3e675cda3b450
.
.
RHF
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Subject: Spelling Lesson
>
>The last four letters in American.........I Can
>The last four letters in Republican.......I Can
>The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
>
>End of lesson. Test to follow in November, 2012
>
>Remember, November is to be set aside as rodent extermination month.
- Subject: Spelling Lesson
- The last four letters in American.........I Can
- The last four letters in Republican.......I Can
- The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
-
- End of lesson. Test to follow in November, 2012
-
- Remember, November is to be set aside as rodent extermination month.
.
The "Renewing American Spring" Is Coming...
In The Fall of 2012 [6th NOV] ! ! !
-throw-the-bums-out-!-
.
Think Green America : Recycle Prez Obama in
2012 ! : Make It One Term Then Out for 'BO' !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d51f5253fd43263a
.
The Obama 'Promises' -versus- The Obama "Reality"
-while- Still Playing 'The Blame Bush Game' !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/716acaa944680ab5
.
Join 'The Cult of The-Obama' :
Re-Elect Obama bi-Den© in 2012 !
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.
Re-Elect Obama {& _______?} © in 2012 !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8810c35cac4eec09
.
Baracking Prez "BO" ! {Obama}
Bring Down The Obama Regime & Send "BO"
-aka-'Stinky' Home in 2012 !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e41bc3892d4f018
.
Clowning "BO"-wrt- Blaming Prez "BO"...
Who Let The "BO" Out? Who! Who!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fea00130443e55ff
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dave
> On Aug 17, 7:31 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> - If a station allows one side a voice for free,
> - fairness demands they allow free time for an
> - opposing viewpoint. They should make this a
> - condition of the station license renewal.
>
> ? Dave... Where Is "Fairness Demands" In The
> US Constitution !
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution
> .
Our way of governing requires that smart, well-informed citizens
exercise their right to vote. If you want a license to serve the
public interest you can't broadcast party-line propaganda 24/7. Those
are my airwaves, too, and I'm not getting any attention.
Equal Protection is in the Constitution
RHF
> Overloading & Shutting Down the System*
> * Attacking "The Regime" !
> .
> - Participating in a group discussion on
> - line is protected activity.
>
> You Have To Pay for Internet Access :
> So It Is Not A 'right'
> -or- so-called 'Free' Internet Access
> comes with Imbedded Internet Advertising :
> {Which is Indirect-Payment}
> So It Is Not A 'right' either.
>
> Dave 'You' {or "I"} Have The Right To Shout
> Our Mouths Off -but- Others Have The Equal
> {Corresponding} Right To NOT Listen ! ! !
> .
> -again- Freedom of Association Carries the
> Equal {Corresponding} Right of Freedom of
> Disassociation [.]
> .
> .
-follow-up-
.
Flash-Mob Destroys 7/11 Store !
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/199419/20110817/flash-mob-violence-us-philadelphia.htm
-an-act-of-anarchy-!-
.
Flash-Mob Devastates The Citizens of
Down-Town Philly !
http://articles.philly.com/2011-08-07/news/29861647_1_young-people-flash-mobs-immaculate-conception
-an-act-of-domestic-terrorism-!-
.
SF BART Cut the Head-Off The Shut-It-Down-!
Flash-Mob by Turning Off the Station and
Tunnels Cellphone Service : Justly in the
name of Public Safety and Law & Order.
.
and that is how 'i' see it ~ RHF
.
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RHF
> RHF wrote:
> > On Aug 17, 7:31 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> > - If a station allows one side a voice for free,
> > - fairness demands they allow free time for an
> > - opposing viewpoint. They should make this a
> > - condition of the station license renewal.
>
> > ? Dave... Where Is "Fairness Demands" In The
> > US Constitution !
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution
> > .
- Our way of governing requires that smart,
- well-informed citizens exercise their right
- to vote.
M4 Mania Dave -oops- Your Liberal Uber Elitism
is Showing : Only 'You' that special Smart,
and Well-Informed Citizen can be the Decider
for All Us {lessor-beings} -aka- The Masses
White -or- Black -or- Yellow -or- Brown :
ONE HUMAN* = ONE VOTE
* US Citizen
Man -or- Woman : One Person = One Vote
Straight -or- LGBT : One Person = One Vote
Rich -or- Poor : One Person = One Vote
Property Owner -or- Renter : One Person = One Vote
Native Born* -or- Naturalized* : One Person = One Vote
* US Citizen
-and-therefore-it-follows-
Educated* -or- Worker** : One Person = One Vote
* Elitist -so-called- Enlightened 'Intellectual'
** Honest Hard-Working American US Citizen
.
- If you want a license to serve the public
- interest you can't broadcast party-line
- propaganda 24/7.
Yes TV with PBS & CBS & NBC & ABC & MSNBC & CNN
All Broadcasting the Liberal {Democrat} Party-Line
{Propaganda} 24/7 -aka- The Obama-TV Outlets !
-versus-only-one-network/channel-
FOX News trying to get-out the Opposing Conservative
{Republican} Party-Line {Anti-Propaganda} 24/7
-aka- The Only Alternative-to-Obama-TV Outlet !
OBAMA & LIBERALS & DEMOCRATS ALL DEMAND THAT
FOX NEWS MUST BE SILENCE !
-in-the-name-of-fairness-
.
Massive NPR Network with 2500 Radio Stations
All Broadcasting the Liberal {Democrat} Party-Line
{Propaganda} 24/7 -aka- The Obama-Radio Outlets !
-versus-fragmented-am-talk-radio-
AM Talk Radio trying to get-out the Opposing
Conservative {Republican} Party-Line
{Anti-Obama-Propaganda} 24/7
-aka- The Only Alternative-to-Obama-Media Outlet !
OBAMA & LIBERALS & DEMOCRATS ALL DEMAND THAT
AM TALK RADIO MUST BE SILENCE !
-in-the-name-of-fairness-
.
- Those are my airwaves, too,
- and I'm not getting any attention.
M4 Mania Dave : In That 24/7 Medical-Marijuana
Madness H-A-Z-E... How Would You Know !
-tip- Dave listen to PBS & NPR & PRI & Pacifica
-when-ever-you-come-out-of-the-haze-
.
- Equal Protection is in the Constitution
Under the Law : By The Federal Government;
and From the potential Oppression and Tyranny
of the Federal Government.
The Rest Is Unalienable Rights as Prescribed
there-in.
-provided-you-exercise-them-responsibly-
.
.
RHF
wrote:
> All it takes is a 911 call or plea for help that would not connect.
> Martin
>
> On 8/16/2011 2:37 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
> > On 8/16/2011 12:23 AM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
> >>http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/13/san-francisco-transit-blocks-
> >> cellphones-to-hinder-protest/?intcmp=obnetwork
>
> >> An illegal, Orwellian violation of free-speech rights? Or just a smart
> >> tactic to protect train passengers from rowdy would-be demonstrators
> >> during a busy evening commute?
>
> > Not a free speech violation, of course. The government is under no
> > obligation to furnish you with the means of propagating your speech. I
> > don't know technically how BART brings cell service underground, but
> > whatever that mechanism is, BART owns it and can switch it on or off as
> > they see fit. Quite obviously, they have it as a means of providing a
> > service - a service they are under no obligation to provide in the first
> > place.
>
> > If you want to stand on a street corner and harangue passersby, that is
> > your right - but the state doesn't have to furnish you with a megaphone.
> > Free speech does not include the right to have your speech disseminated
> > beyond your own means.
The BART Train-Operators Comms were working.
The Only 911 Calls that would have been made
would have been from the Flash-Mob Trying To
Crash-the-System; and from Those Being Attacked
by the Flash-Mob has it got started :
Like in Philly a Violent Flash-Mob Targeting
Select Victims Beating Them and Robbing Them
-peacefully-nah-!- -vicious-and dangerous-yes-!-
.
Flash-Mob Destroys 7/11 Store !
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/199419/20110817/flash-mob-violence-us-philadelphia.htm
-an-act-of-anarchy-!-or-just-plain-robbery-?-
.
Flash-Mob Devastates The Citizens of
Down-Town Philly !
http://articles.philly.com/2011-08-07/news/29861647_1_young-people-flash-mobs-immaculate-conception
-an-act-of-domestic-terrorism-!-
-or-a-racist-riot-?-
*Judge*For*Yourself*
.
SF BART Cut the Head-Off The Shut-It-Down-!
Flash-Mob by Turning Off the Station and
Tunnels Cellphone Service : Justly in the
name of Public Safety and Law & Order.
.
"Flash-Mobs" as Acts of Domestic Terrorism
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3369f48d09dbe95a
-wrt- Shutting Down the Regime
-and- Attacking the Social System
dave
> -follow-up-
> .
> Flash-Mob Destroys 7/11 Store !
> http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/199419/20110817/flash-mob-violence-us-philadelphia.htm
> -an-act-of-anarchy-!-
> .
> Flash-Mob Devastates The Citizens of
> Down-Town Philly !
> http://articles.philly.com/2011-08-07/news/29861647_1_young-people-flash-mobs-immaculate-conception
> -an-act-of-domestic-terrorism-!-
> .
> SF BART Cut the Head-Off The Shut-It-Down-!
> Flash-Mob by Turning Off the Station and
> Tunnels Cellphone Service : Justly in the
> name of Public Safety and Law & Order.
> .
> and that is how 'i' see it ~ RHF
> .
Fascists always use "security" as their excuse for shutting down freedom
and liberty.
What the hell is a flash mob? What does it have to trigger happy BART
cops?
dave
> On Aug 17, 3:33 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> - Our way of governing requires that smart,
> - well-informed citizens exercise their right
> - to vote.
>
> M4 Mania Dave -oops- Your Liberal Uber Elitism
> is Showing : Only 'You' that special Smart,
> and Well-Informed Citizen can be the Decider
> for All Us {lessor-beings} -aka- The Masses
> Massive NPR Network with 2500 Radio Stations
> All Broadcasting the Liberal {Democrat} Party-Line
> {Propaganda} 24/7 -aka- The Obama-Radio Outlets !
> -versus-fragmented-am-talk-radio-
I have a vision of America where everyone is smart and well informed.
You would prefer a nation of idiots who do whatever that last advert
tells them to do.
NPR has 800 stations that play some of their programming. About 2/3 of
that number are not full power full time NPR stations.
"Fairness" is such a bedrock concept for a moral person I'm not
surprised it eludes you.
RHF
> RHF wrote:
> > -follow-up-
> > .
> > Flash-Mob Destroys 7/11 Store !
> > -an-act-of-anarchy-!-
> > .
> > Flash-Mob Devastates The Citizens of
> > Down-Town Philly !
> > -an-act-of-domestic-terrorism-!-
> > .
> > SF BART Cut the Head-Off The Shut-It-Down-!
> > Flash-Mob by Turning Off the Station and
> > Tunnels Cellphone Service : Justly in the
> > name of Public Safety and Law & Order.
> > .
> > and that is how 'i' see it ~ RHF
> > .
>
> Fascists always use "security" as their excuse for shutting down freedom
> and liberty.
>
> What the hell is a flash mob? What does it have to trigger happy BART
> cops?
Dave -asks- " What the hell is a flash mob?"
*answer* Flash-Mob
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_mob
-and- Dave -just-also-posted-
"I have a vision of America where
everyone is smart and well informed."
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/cd418b888579bfed
Dave may we infer that you are :
1 - Not So 'Smart' ! -and-
2 - Not So 'Well Informed' !
alas poor m4 mania dave . . .
we know him all to well ~ RHF
.
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dave
[rather than a simple answer I get a page of spew, again]
RHF
> RHF wrote:
> > On Aug 17, 3:33 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> > - Our way of governing requires that smart,
> > - well-informed citizens exercise their right
> > - to vote.
>
> > M4 Mania Dave -oops- Your Liberal Uber Elitism
> > is Showing : Only 'You' that special Smart,
> > and Well-Informed Citizen can be the Decider
> > for All Us {lessor-beings} -aka- The Masses
> > Massive NPR Network with 2500 Radio Stations
> > All Broadcasting the Liberal {Democrat} Party-Line
> > {Propaganda} 24/7 -aka- The Obama-Radio Outlets !
> > -versus-fragmented-am-talk-radio-
>
- is smart and well informed.
So yours is a Cookie Cutter America where
everyone is the same-o-same-o
? What About Diversity Dave . . .
? ? Isn't Diversity Good . . .
-not-everyone-can-live-in-an-ivory-tower-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_elitism
-oops- Some People Have To Get a Basic
Education and Actually Work For A Living !
-the-vast-majority-{masses}-of-any-society-
.
- You would prefer a nation of idiots
NO - I prefer a Nation that has more than
Dave Clones in it [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5c9f4dab03a0c94c
-unless-you-are-claiming-to-be-an-idiot...-
.
- who do whatever that last advert tells
- them to do.
Dave so then we can infer that you do exactly
the opposite of what the 'last advert tells
you to do' -how-very-predictable-rotfl-
-or- Dave That You Do Not Listen
-which-negates-your-being-well-informed-
.
- NPR has 800 stations that play some of
- their programming. About 2/3 of that number
- are not full power full time NPR stations.
*FACT*IS*
NPR is NPR : The Mightiest {Collective} Single
Voice on the American AM/FM Radio Bands ! ! !
+plus+ NPR along with PRI and APMG is on
AFN ~50% and sometimes the VOA Too !
.
- "Fairness" is such a bedrock concept for a
- moral person I'm not surprised it eludes you.
Ah... The Great Liberal Elitist Thinker
M4* Mania Dave deems me to be a person of
'no' morals -'i'-feel-so-amoral-
* Mucho Medical-Marijuana Madness [M4]
-however- Dave 'i' do understand "Fairness"
to be a degree of Equality like :
One-For-You & One For Me
-therefore-it-follows-that-
One-Hour of Liberal NPR = One-Hour of AM Talk
800 x 24 x 7 = 134,400 Weekly NPR Hours (100%)
-versus-
500 x 24 x 7 = 84,000 Weekly AM Talk Hours (63%)
OMG - Seams like Conservatives & Republican are
being Short-Changed 50,000 Fairness Hours Weekly.
How About Moving 8-Hours of AM Talk Radio Hosts*
over to NPR Stations in the Interest of 'Fairness'
* Conservatives & Republicans
-and-balanced-by-
Moving 8-Hours of Liberal NPR Talk Radio Programs*
over to AM Talk Radio Stations in the Interest of
'Fairness'
* Liberals & Democrats -aka- Progressives
Now That Would Surely Be More Balanced & Fair Too !
-oops- But what you mean by Fairness and Balance
is NPR Being 100% Liberals & Democrats {Progressive}
-and- AM Talk Radio Being 50% Liberals & Democrats
{Progressive}; along with 50% Talk Radio Hosts
who are Conservatives & Republicans
-composite-result- 75% Liberals & Democrats
{Progressive} and only 25% Conservatives & Republicans
HEY DAVE THAT AIN'T FAIR AND BALANCED ~ RHF
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RHF
> On 8/18/2011 5:44 PM, RHF wrote:
>
> [rather than a simple answer I get a page of spew, again]
What Was The Award For . . .
Missing The Boat ! ;;-}} ~ RHF
Dave -if- You Can Stand The 'Spew'
-then- Think First Before Replying !
.
-traveling-back-down-this-thread-
.
US Media Equality : Fairness and Balance
Between NPR and AM Talk Radio : Hour-4-Hour
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ea1509d69ad034c4
.
M4 Mania Dave -asks- What Is A "Flash-Mob" ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/1790b9e28fbbbff1
.
"Flash-Mobs" as Acts of Domestic Terrorism
-wrt- Shutting Down the Regime/System
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8f7ed630224f9b2e
-and-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3369f48d09dbe95a
.
The Obama-Busted-Mobile
-aka- Rolling Political Thunder !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/06498d0df86d24b2
.
? Dave... Where Is "Fairness Demands"
In The US Constitution !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5c9f4dab03a0c94c
-and-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4594d945d2b19271
-and-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/78bc5f02946e631f
-and-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5ccec02db30889ab
.
The "Renewing American Spring" Is Coming...
In The Fall of 2012 [6th NOV Election ] !!!
-throw-the-bums-out-!-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9aedade1d70dae4a
.
Soviet San Francisco Cell Shutdown :
Safety Issue, or Hint of Orwell ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6d2f803aa517337f
-and-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9f084a9fa1b57252
-and-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7e582c0b792ae1b0
-and-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/850238a5d5100b4e?
.
.
dave
> -oops- But what you mean by Fairness and Balance
> is NPR Being 100% Liberals& Democrats {Progressive}
> -and- AM Talk Radio Being 50% Liberals& Democrats
> {Progressive}; along with 50% Talk Radio Hosts
> who are Conservatives&
Gawd you are fucking deranged. There are entire states where all the
opinion shows are right wing. This is not healthy for America. Why do
you defend the indefensible? Why are you such a hateful old man?
RHF
...so... much more Mucho Medical-Marijuana
Madness -aka- Liberal-Democrat Thinking by
M4 Mania Dave
-wrt- PUI Posting Under the Influence of
Illegal Street Drugs
-restating-the-case-one-more-time-
-oops- But what you mean by Fairness and Balance
is NPR Being 100% Liberals & Democrats {Progressive}
-and- AM Talk Radio Being 50% Liberals & Democrats
{Progressive}; along with 50% Talk Radio Hosts
dave
>
> -however- Dave 'i' do understand "Fairness"
> to be a degree of Equality like :
> One-For-You & One For Me
> -therefore-it-follows-that-
> One-Hour of Liberal NPR = One-Hour of AM Talk
> 800 x 24 x 7 = 134,400 Weekly NPR Hours (100%)
> -versus-
> 500 x 24 x 7 = 84,000 Weekly AM Talk Hours (63%)
> OMG - Seams like Conservatives & Republican are
AM radio covers the entire continent. FM radio only covers cities and
surrounding suburbs. Half the people live outside cities.
Name 3 NPR opinion programs. Try to find opinion on the Dallas NPR
affiliate.
Ask WLS if they'd like to swap facilities with WBEZ, tell us what they
say.
dave
First Post
>RHF wrote:
>
>>
>> -however- Dave 'i' do understand "Fairness"
>> to be a degree of Equality like :
>> One-For-You & One For Me
>> -therefore-it-follows-that-
>> One-Hour of Liberal NPR = One-Hour of AM Talk
>> 800 x 24 x 7 = 134,400 Weekly NPR Hours (100%)
>> -versus-
>> 500 x 24 x 7 = 84,000 Weekly AM Talk Hours (63%)
>> OMG - Seams like Conservatives & Republican are
>
>AM radio covers the entire continent. FM radio only covers cities and
>surrounding suburbs. Half the people live outside cities.
Am radio has a much shorter range than FM.
There is no AM radio station covering the entire continent.
Programs are franchised on FM just as they are on AM.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
>
>Name 3 NPR opinion programs. Try to find opinion on the Dallas NPR
>affiliate.
>
>Ask WLS if they'd like to swap facilities with WBEZ, tell us what they
>say.
So NPR doesn't offer programming that you believe they should and you
want to blame conservative broadcasting for it.
Same old "Special Dave". Looking at things ass backwards.
dave
> On 19 Aug 2011 11:29:40 GMT, dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
>>
>>AM radio covers the entire continent. FM radio only covers cities and
>>surrounding suburbs. Half the people live outside cities.
>
> Am radio has a much shorter range than FM.
> There is no AM radio station covering the entire continent.
> Programs are franchised on FM just as they are on AM.
> You have no idea what you're talking about.
> So NPR doesn't offer programming that you believe they should and you
> want to blame conservative broadcasting for it.
>
> Same old "Special Dave". Looking at things ass backwards.
You need to get your language translator serviced. I am saying there is
nothing on NPR that advocates for a particular political movement, and
that even if there was, NPR is not as available as say Michael Savage,
Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, etc., are any weeknight, across the AM dial,
virtually everywhere in the continental USA. Anybody who's driven long
distance is painfully aware of what I'm talking about.
arthr...@webtv.net
AM a.k.a.Mediumwave broadcast can travel for thousands of miles
(especially at night) on aregular basis . Some of these transmitters,
outside of US, run into a Megawatt power range . FM a.k.a. VHF signals
are of a limited Line-of-Sight coverage ,except for some rare events
in the sky that cause signals not intended to travel much beyond the
horizon to appear on the opposite side of the world . radio
propagation is always full of surprizes .
Brenda Ann
"dave" wrote in message
news:4e4dcc71$0$12468$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com...
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I'd love to know where those figures come from. I know personally of two
liberals on AM radio: Colmes and Schultz. Air America was put together to
counter the overwhelming right wing talk on AM radio, but it failed. I think
the actual ratio is something like 15:1 in favor of the right. As far as
NPR, we listen a lot here, and there is very little political opinion one
way or another, it's predominantly shows more like magazine shows.
dave
I think Roy makes them up. I picture him as a kind of Jabba the Hut
[sic] with extra punctuation marks.
They are on satellite and in a few big cities and neither is much of a
leftie. Colmes is too passive and Shultz is a big
dumb jock. Neither represents intelligently, like Thom Hartmann, who has
a big AFTRS following. When Limbaugh started pretty much all his
stations also carried Larry King. That was more balanced than today.
George Noory is part of the birther fringe.
M. Gaddafi
BEING UNINTELLIGIBLE.
arthr...@webtv.net
wrote:
> "dave" wrote in message
>
> news:4e4dcc71$0$12468$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com...
>
> On 8/18/2011 5:58 PM, RHF wrote:
>
> > -oops- But what you mean by Fairness and Balance
> > is NPR Being 100% Liberals& Democrats {Progressive}
> > -and- AM Talk Radio Being 50% Liberals& Democrats
> > {Progressive}; along with 50% Talk Radio Hosts
> > who are Conservatives&
>
> Gawd you are fucking deranged. There are entire states where all the
> opinion shows are right wing. This is not healthy for America. Why do
> you defend the indefensible? Why are you such a hateful old man?
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I'd love to know where those figures come from. I know personally of two
> liberals on AM radio: Colmes and Schultz. Air America was put together to
> counter the overwhelming right wing talk on AM radio, but it failed. I think
> the actual ratio is something like 15:1 in favor of the right. As far as
> NPR, we listen a lot here, and there is very little political opinion one
> way or another, it's predominantly shows more like magazine shows.
AM radio has become a right -wing-conservative hangout , even George
Noory makes more sense than some of the so-called 'political
idiots' . . .
Richard Steel
wrote:
> "dave" wrote in message
>
> news:4e4dcc71$0$12468$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com...
>
> On 8/18/2011 5:58 PM, RHF wrote:
>
> > -oops- But what you mean by Fairness and Balance
> > is NPR Being 100% Liberals& Democrats {Progressive}
> > -and- AM Talk Radio Being 50% Liberals& Democrats
> > {Progressive}; along with 50% Talk Radio Hosts
> > who are Conservatives&
>
> Gawd you are fucking deranged. There are entire states where all the
> opinion shows are right wing. This is not healthy for America. Why do
> you defend the indefensible? Why are you such a hateful old man?
Are you under the impression that there exists no form on media other
than AM Radio?
There's no movies?
No books?
No magazines?
No Internet?
No broadcast TV?
No cable TV?
No colleges?
Nothing?
Just AM radio?
Richard Steel
> AM radio has become a right -wing-conservative hangout ...
So what?
You're not happy controlling 95% of the media...it's got to be 100%?
arthr...@webtv.net
> Brenda Ann wrote:
>
> > "dave" wrote in message
> >news:4e4dcc71$0$12468$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com...
>
> > On 8/18/2011 5:58 PM, RHF wrote:
>
> >> -oops- But what you mean by Fairness and Balance
> >> is NPR Being 100% Liberals& Democrats {Progressive}
> >> -and- AM Talk Radio Being 50% Liberals& Democrats
> >> {Progressive}; along with 50% Talk Radio Hosts
> >> who are Conservatives&
>
> > Gawd you are fucking deranged. There are entire states where all the
> > opinion shows are right wing. This is not healthy for America. Why do
> > you defend the indefensible? Why are you such a hateful old man?
>
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > I'd love to know where those figures come from. I know personally of two
> > liberals on AM radio: Colmes and Schultz. Air America was put together to
> > counter the overwhelming right wing talk on AM radio, but it failed. I think
> > the actual ratio is something like 15:1 in favor of the right. As far as
> > NPR, we listen a lot here, and there is very little political opinion one
> > way or another, it's predominantly shows more like magazine shows.
>
> I think Roy makes them up. I picture him as a kind of Jabba the Hut
> [sic] with extra punctuation marks.
>
> They are on satellite and in a few big cities and neither is much of a
> leftie. Colmes is too passive and Shultz is a big
> dumb jock. Neither represents intelligently, like Thom Hartmann, who has
> a big AFTRS following. When Limbaugh started pretty much all his
> stations also carried Larry King. That was more balanced than today.
>
> - Show quoted text -
Are you blaspheming George ?
dave
>> Gawd you are fucking deranged. There are entire states where all the
>> opinion shows are right wing. This is not healthy for America. Why do
>> you defend the indefensible? Why are you such a hateful old man?
>
> Are you under the impression that there exists no form on media other
> than AM Radio?
>
> There's no movies?
>
> No books?
>
> No magazines?
>
> No Internet?
>
> No broadcast TV?
>
> No cable TV?
>
> No colleges?
>
> Nothing?
>
> Just AM radio?
>
You have to pay to see movies. You have to buy books and read them. Same
for magazines (which are typically no fresher than 3 days, more likely 3
weeks.) The internet is outrageously expensive, requires special
equipment, and has very limited availability outside of cities. It is
75% porn and spam and should have very little credibility when it comes
to current events. Broadcast TV is entirely controlled by the corporate
elite. It is going to be eliminated in the next few years anyway.
Cable? See "Internet". Colleges makes no sense. That is not where one
goes for current events and commentary.
Of all the media listed above, the only one that penetrates 100% is AM
radio (and then only at night some places). Every town has a
flamethrower of record, some cities have 2 or three. If they all tilt
right how is that fair to people that tilt left?
dave
>>
>> They are on satellite and in a few big cities and neither is much of a
>> leftie. Colmes is too passive and Shultz is a big
>> dumb jock. Neither represents intelligently, like Thom Hartmann, who has
>> a big AFTRS following. When Limbaugh started pretty much all his
>> stations also carried Larry King. That was more balanced than today.
>> George Noory is part of the birther fringe.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Are you blaspheming George ?
I'm calling him out as a typical American, complete with voluntary
lobotomy and fear of his own shadow.
dave
Who controls 95% of what media? If you think the mass media is
controlled by anyone other than the corporations who buy ads you are a
stooge, a tool, a simp; digging your own grave and casting your own
bullet.
arthr...@webtv.net
That is why his program is so successful . Oh, btw, where is it's the
original founder, Art Bell ? Was he finally 'abducted' ?! Or just
laughing all the way to the bank ...
dave
RHF
> RHF wrote:
>
> > -however- Dave 'i' do understand "Fairness"
> > to be a degree of Equality like :
> > One-For-You & One For Me
> > -therefore-it-follows-that-
> > One-Hour of Liberal NPR = One-Hour of AM Talk
> > 800 x 24 x 7 = 134,400 Weekly NPR Hours (100%)
> > -versus-
> > 500 x 24 x 7 = 84,000 Weekly AM Talk Hours (63%)
> > OMG - Seams like Conservatives & Republican are
.
- AM radio covers the entire continent.
Another NPR {Liberal} Media Lie !
Only a very few AMs cover ~750 Miles at Night :
While the vast majority of AMs are simply local
like their FM counterparts in their Metro Areas.
.
- FM radio only covers cities and surrounding suburbs.
Another NPR {Liberal} Media Lie !
The vast majority of AMs which simply cover
their local Metro Area : Roughly ~60 Miles
.
- Half the people live outside cities.
Another NPR {Liberal} Media Lie !
US Population is 79% in City/Suburb Metro Areas
-versus- 21% in Rural Areas.
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/census_issues/metropolitan_planning/cps2k.cfm
With 58% Living in Major Urban Population Centers.
.
- Name 3 NPR opinion programs.
It's the NPR Program S\L\A\N\T that is always
'there' in each and every word that is spoken.
-note-
Most NPR Listeners have been so completely
'Indoctrinated' that they do not recognize
the consistent Liberal Tone of NPR Programming.
-npr-sheeple- -npr-tards- -liber-al-holics-
.
- Try to find opinion on the Dallas NPR affiliate.
Dave -hint- AM & FM Stations are not heard
here {Twain Harte, CA} from Dallas, TX; except
for an occasional/rare DX 'catch' on AM.
.
- Ask WLS if they'd like to swap facilities
- with WBEZ, tell us what they say.
Dave blah,,, Blah... BLAH ! ! !
-am-apples- & -npr-cabbages-
+ WLS-AM 890 kHz @ 50KW in Chicago, IL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WLS_%28AM%29
http://www.radio-locator.com/info/WLS-AM
-versus-
WBEZ-FM 91.5 MHZ @ 8KW in Chicago, IL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBEZ
http://www.radio-locator.com/info/WBEZ-FM
-typical-liberal-tactic-
Conpairing an AM Clear Channel to a Local FM.
What about KQED-FM 88.5 MHz @ 110KW in SFBA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KQED-FM
http://www.radio-locator.com/info/KQED-FM
-simulcast-via-
KQEI-FM 89.3 North Highlands, CA [SAC]
K201BV 88.1 FM Benicia-Martinez, CA
K202CT 88.3 FM Santa Rosa, CA [SRO]
KQED-2 88.5 FM Walnut Creek, CA [CoCo]
.
Dave such broad exaggerations -wrt- AM & FM
Radio there are in-fact a few Clear Channels
that do cover ~750 Mile Range at Night -but-
for the +85% of the US Population FM in Metro
Areas covers more the vast majority of AMs
are no better in the area covered than the FMs
in the Metro Area ~ 60 Miles...
What NPR as a Network has going for it is
the vastly superior number of total member
Stations to Get The Word Out for the Liberal
'Cause' Propagandizing for the Democrat Party
Most NPR Listeners have been so completely
'Indoctrinated' that they do not recognize
the consistent Liberal Tone of NPR Programming.
-npr-sheeple- -npr-tards- -liber-al-holics-
? WHY DID AIR AMERICA FAIL !
-cause- NPR Already Had the Liberal Radio
Listener Market Cornered and Saturated 24/7
with 2400 NPR Liberal Touting Radio Stations
-truth-be-told-
.
US Media Equality : Fairness and Balance
Between NPR and AM Talk Radio
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ea1509d69ad034c4
-and-follow-up-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ed6e4003b601ce8a
.
.
Dave -wrt- Separate But Equal is the new [old]
idea of "fairness"
-is- Just So Much Liberal Race Baiting
-aka- Playing the Liberal "Race Card"
-alas- Typical NPR "S\L\A\N\T\E\D" Thinking !
-thanks-for-proving-my-point-npr-dave-
.
Point-of-Fact Dave 'I' proposed "Integration"
-a-swap-out- AM to FM and FM to AM
-begin-quote-
How About Moving 8-Hours of AM Talk Radio Hosts*
over to NPR Stations in the Interest of 'Fairness'
* Conservatives & Republicans
-and-balanced-by-
Moving 8-Hours of Liberal NPR Talk Radio Programs*
over to AM Talk Radio Stations in the Interest of
'Fairness'
* Liberals & Democrats -aka- Progressives
Now That Would Surely Be More Balanced & Fair Too !
-end-quote-
...but... Liber-Al-Holics Always Have To
Twist The Truth and Facts To Promote :
The Big NPR Liberal Lie !
.
HEY DAVE - JUST SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT
AND MAINTAINING FAIRNESS AND BALANCED ~ RHF
.
.
dave
> On Aug 19, 4:29 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> .
> - Ask WLS if they'd like to swap facilities
> - with WBEZ, tell us what they say.
>
> Dave blah,,, Blah... BLAH ! ! !
> -am-apples- & -npr-cabbages-
>
> + WLS-AM 890 kHz @ 50KW in Chicago, IL
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WLS_%28AM%29
> http://www.radio-locator.com/info/WLS-AM
> -versus-
> WBEZ-FM 91.5 MHZ @ 8KW in Chicago, IL
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBEZ
> http://www.radio-locator.com/info/WBEZ-FM
>
> -typical-liberal-tactic-
> Conpairing an AM Clear Channel to a Local FM.
>
Thank-you for proving my point so bombastically. WLS covers 30 states at
night, WBEZ parts of 4 states.
RHF
> > On Aug 19, 4:29 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> > .
> > - Ask WLS if they'd like to swap facilities
> > - with WBEZ, tell us what they say.
>
> > Dave blah,,, Blah... BLAH ! ! !
> > -am-apples- & -npr-cabbages-
>
> > + WLS-AM 890 kHz @ 50KW in Chicago, IL
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WLS_%28AM%29
> >http://www.radio-locator.com/info/WLS-AM
> > -versus-
> > WBEZ-FM 91.5 MHZ @ 8KW in Chicago, IL
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBEZ
> >http://www.radio-locator.com/info/WBEZ-FM
>
- - Conpairing an AM Clear Channel to a Local FM.
- Thank-you for proving my point so bombastically.
- WLS covers 30 states at night, WBEZ parts of 4 states.
Dave -again- Typical Liberal 'Flawed' Logic :
Comparing a major AM/MW {Licensed}
"Clear Channel" Radio Station
-to-
a Local FM {License} to Cover a Metro Area
Setting The NPR {Liberal} to AM Talk Radio
{Conservative} Record Straight and Maintaining
Fairness and Balance
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d76e8540f36aca4c
.
AGAIN : Swap-Out 6-Hours of WSL-AM's NightTime
Programming Midnight-to-6AM to WBEZ-FM's
-and- Swap-Out 6-Hours of WBEZ-FM's NPR
Programming Midnight-to-6AM to WSL-AM's
-then- Watch the FM's Conservative Voice
pull-in the Radio Listeners
-while- The AM's Liberal [NPR] Spiel drives
the Radio Listener's away . . .
-proving- You Can Not Force People To
Listen To What They Don't Want To Hear
On-the-Radio in a Free Society.
.
AFN Radio Exemplifying Fair and Balance !?!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ebcc0d90919e3ea5
.
.
Fact is that NPR Dave is not about being
'Fair-&-Balanced' : NPR Dave is about Forcing
Everyone to Listen to Listening To What Dave
Thinks Is 'Good' Radio -and- Silencing All
of What NPR Dave Thinks Is 'Bad' Radio
-that's- The Radio World According To NPR Dave !
-and- Has nothing,,, Nothing... NOTHING ! ! !
To Do With Being 'Fair-&-Balanced'
it boggles the mind ~ RHF
.
AFN Radio Exemplifying Fair and Balance !?!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ebcc0d90919e3ea5
.
.
RHF
> > On Aug 19, 4:29 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> > .
> > - Ask WLS if they'd like to swap facilities
> > - with WBEZ, tell us what they say.
>
> > Dave blah,,, Blah... BLAH ! ! !
> > -am-apples- & -npr-cabbages-
>
> > + WLS-AM 890 kHz @ 50KW in Chicago, IL
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WLS_%28AM%29
> >http://www.radio-locator.com/info/WLS-AM
> > -versus-
> > WBEZ-FM 91.5 MHZ @ 8KW in Chicago, IL
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBEZ
> >http://www.radio-locator.com/info/WBEZ-FM
>
> > -typical-liberal-tactic-
> > Conpairing an AM Clear Channel to a Local FM.
>
- WLS covers 30 states at night, WBEZ parts of 4 states.
NPR Dave -wrote-new-subject-line-
"The Public Airwaves Are For Sharing Ideas,
Not Spewing Ideoligy and Dogma"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fe4c3016bd955a3a
.
NAH - Dave the # 1 'Format' on Radio is . . .
"Music"* {Providing Listener Entertainment}
-so- Remember NPR Dave it's simply Radio
and all you have to do is just listen and
enjoy it as you choose; when you want to ~ RHF
-the-public-air-wave-are-for-all-
-not-just-the-npr-overlords-to-dictate-
* Carrying by more AM & FM Radio Stations
then AM Talk -or- NPR Talk
music,,, Music... MUSIC ! ! !
http://en.vidivodo.com/116604/teresa-brewer-music-music-music
? Once Wonders Dave Who Appointed 'you'
the Obama CZAR {Overlord} of Radio ! ~ RHF
http://www.afilmcanon.com/storage/great_dictator_1024.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1233151512058
.
.
Setting The NPR {Liberal} to AM Talk Radio
{Conservative} Record Straight and Maintaining
Fairness and Balance
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d76e8540f36aca4c
.
NPR -v- AM Talk Radio : You Can Not Force People
To Listen To What They Don't Want To Hear
On-the-Radio in a Free Society
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/77551971af9d3984
.
AFN Radio Exemplifying Fair and Balance !?!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ebcc0d90919e3ea5
-and-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8cf2fc37d1b20906
.
.
Richard Steel
> Richard Steel wrote:
>
> >> AM radio has become a right -wing-conservative hangout ...
> > So what?
> > You're not happy controlling 95% of the media...it's got to be 100%?
> Who controls 95% of what media?
The Left.
Richard Steel
> Richard Steel wrote:
> >> Gawd you are fucking deranged. There are entire states where all the
> >> opinion shows are right wing. This is not healthy for America. Why do
> >> you defend the indefensible? Why are you such a hateful old man?
>
> > Are you under the impression that there exists no form on media other
> > than AM Radio?
>
> > There's no movies?
>
> > No books?
>
> > No magazines?
>
> > No Internet?
>
> > No broadcast TV?
>
> > No cable TV?
>
> > No colleges?
>
> > Nothing?
>
> > Just AM radio?
>
> You have to pay to see movies.
So?
> You have to buy books and read them.
Again, so?
> Same
> for magazines (which are typically no fresher than 3 days, more likely 3
> weeks.)
Once again, so?
> The internet is outrageously expensive, >
No, it's not.
> requires special
> equipment,
Which almost everyone has.
> and has very limited availability outside of cities.>
And by "very limited", you mean close to universal.
> It is
> 75% porn and spam and should have very little credibility when it comes
> to current events.
It's 75% porn if you visit porn sites 75% of the time. Oh, and spam
has largely disappeared. People wised up to it, so the creeps have
moved onto other methods.
> Broadcast TV is entirely controlled by the corporate
> elite. It is going to be eliminated in the next few years anyway.
> Cable? See "Internet". Colleges makes no sense. That is not where one
> goes for current events and commentary.
So, let's see if I've got this straight. You don't read books, see
movies, read newspapers or magazines, watch TV, attend college, use
the internet, because they're not free, and it takes efforts.
Doesn't that make you a complete boob?
> Of all the media listed above, the only one that penetrates 100% is AM
> radio (and then only at night some places). Every town has a
> flamethrower of record, some cities have 2 or three. If they all tilt
> right how is that fair to people that tilt left?
How about FM radio? That's almost all leftist crap, and there's a lot
more FM stations than AM stations.
dave
That is ludicrous. The mass media is owned by defense contractors
(NBC) and people who made money doing gangster stuff (CBS) and (I don't
know how to classify Disney; a company built entirely on Stepford
children).
Newscorp (slightly to the right of Ayn Rand) brags they control 30% of
the media all by themselves, so that leaves 70% to be split up by Time
Warner (right wing), Viacom (neutral to center right), Disney (creepy
fascist), Comcast (right), General Electric (nuclear behemoth), Cox
(rightish), Citadel (uber right), Clear Channel/Premiere (quite
Right), etc.
The fact you'd even repeat such an obvious untruth is a testament to
your brainwashing.
dave
> So, let's see if I've got this straight. You don't read books, see
> movies, read newspapers or magazines, watch TV, attend college, use
> the internet, because they're not free, and it takes efforts.
>
> Doesn't that make you a complete boob?
>
>> Of all the media listed above, the only one that penetrates 100% is AM
>> radio (and then only at night some places). Every town has a
>> flamethrower of record, some cities have 2 or three. If they all tilt
>> right how is that fair to people that tilt left?
>
> How about FM radio? That's almost all leftist crap, and there's a lot
> more FM stations than AM stations.
>
We are talking about the information potential voters get prior to an
election. If you turn on a car radio in Texas (or most states) chances
are you are not going to hear anything but right wing propaganda (AM or
FM).
I'm going to overlook the rudeness, because of the company you keep.
I pay to watch TV because I live in the mountains. I can barely afford
it. I have a DSL connection that I will probably drop in a couple months
when my year is up.
No FM to speak of here. KROQ and KPCC. Haven't heard any political
advocacy on either. We have an AM station that is totally right wing.
Same goes for our local cable channel.
This is in spite of this city voting for Obama 53% to 47%. To listen to
the radio you'd think he was Son of Moamar.
arthr...@webtv.net
Muammar did address BHO as 'my son' a few months ago !!!
Richard Steel
> Richard Steel wrote:
> > So, let's see if I've got this straight. You don't read books, see
> > movies, read newspapers or magazines, watch TV, attend college, use
> > the internet, because they're not free, and it takes efforts.
>
> > Doesn't that make you a complete boob?
>
> >> Of all the media listed above, the only one that penetrates 100% is AM
> >> radio (and then only at night some places). Every town has a
> >> flamethrower of record, some cities have 2 or three. If they all tilt
> >> right how is that fair to people that tilt left?
>
> > How about FM radio? That's almost all leftist crap, and there's a lot
> > more FM stations than AM stations.
>
> We are talking about the information potential voters get prior to an
> election.
And books, libraries, magazines, broadcast TV, cable TV, college, high
school, pamphlets don't count? the ONLY way Americans get information
is through AM radio?
Just how insane are you?
> If you turn on a car radio in Texas (or most states) chances
> are you are not going to hear anything but right wing propaganda (AM or
> FM).
I spent two weeks driving through Texas not to long ago, and there
more certainly are far more liberal stations than conservative.
> I'm going to overlook the rudeness, because of the company you keep.
Are you under the impression that you're anything except rude?
> I pay to watch TV because I live in the mountains. I can barely afford
> it. I have a DSL connection that I will probably drop in a couple months
> when my year is up.
Good, then you won't bother me anymore.
> No FM to speak of here. KROQ and KPCC. Haven't heard any political
> advocacy on either. We have an AM station that is totally right wing.
> Same goes for our local cable channel.
You live in the Greater Los Angeles area, and you have the fucking
gall to claim there's no left wing media?
LA has no liberal radio stations?
> This is in spite of this city voting for Obama 53% to 47%. To listen to
> the radio you'd think he was Son of Moamar.
According to you, the only stations your town has is a rock station,
and NPR. Seems like that's all leftie, all the time.
arthr...@webtv.net
>
> - Show quoted text -
NPR is not so extreme : it is all relative. Some FM stations are
totally whacked out . For instance- Pacifica Radio . . .
RHF
> > So, let's see if I've got this straight. You don't read books, see
> > movies, read newspapers or magazines, watch TV, attend college, use
> > the internet, because they're not free, and it takes efforts.
>
> > Doesn't that make you a complete boob?
>
> >> Of all the media listed above, the only one that penetrates 100% is AM
> >> radio (and then only at night some places). Every town has a
> >> flamethrower of record, some cities have 2 or three. If they all tilt
> >> right how is that fair to people that tilt left?
>
> > How about FM radio? That's almost all leftist crap, and there's a lot
> > more FM stations than AM stations.
>
> We are talking about the information potential voters get prior to an
> election. If you turn on a car radio in Texas (or most states) chances
> are you are not going to hear anything but right wing propaganda (AM or
> FM).
>
- of the company you keep.
dave,,, Dave... DAVE ! ! !
?rudeness? with all your in-the-face
'proclaiming' you should expect a high
degree of back-at-you's !
- I pay to watch TV because I live in the mountains.
- I can barely afford it.
So consider 'Free' Over-the-Air Satellite TV
http://gofastmotorsports.com/rickssatellitehome.htm
.
- I have a DSL connection that I will probably
- drop in a couple months when my year is up.
One must make 'choices' -and- Live with-in
their means.
.
- No FM to speak of here. KROQ and KPCC.
- Haven't heard any political advocacy on either.
Then 'you' must be politically tone-deaf
to the NPR Liberal Indoctrination being
spewed out by KPCC.
.
- We have an AM station that is totally right wing.
That should balance-out {off-set} KPCC's
NPR 'programming' {Liberal Indoctrination}
and APM & PRI along with extended coverage
via KUOR & KPCV =s 800K Radicalized Left
Wing Radio Listeners...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPCC
.
- Same goes for our local cable channel.
How Does Any 'local' Cable Company Equate
To Being "Right-Wing" ?
Basic 36 Channels with FOX News -versus-
ABC + CBS + NBC + MSNBC + PBS + CNN etc...
-that's-not-fair-&-balanced-
...and... With Multi-Channel OTA/SAT/CBL :
You have the Right-To-Listen/Watch {Tune-In}
-and-
The Equal Right-NOT-To-Listen/Watch {Tune-Out}
-cause-no-one-forces-you-to-watch-tv-
-a/o-any-specific-tv-channel-
=You=Have=Choices=&=Freedom=To=Choose=
-or- is the 'local' Cable Community "Access"
Channel ? Right-Wing ?
? Have 'you' consider this Dave -that- It is
'you' who is the Odd-Ball in a otherwise normal
community of like minded rural* people !
* down-home 'country' down-to-earth
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dave - once again 'your' post proves that
'liberalism is a mental disorder' ~ RHF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_Is_a_Mental_Disorder
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- This is in spite of this city voting for
- Obama 53% to 47%.
Most likely that will be reversed in 2012
as the false 'aura' of The Obama has been
exposed by "BO"s failure and lack of
executive leadership as the POTUS.
To listen to the radio you'd think he
was Son of Moamar.
So Change the Radio Channel and Listen to
something else; or Listen to your 'fav'
Internet Radio Station. {Pacifica} -but-
Don't Try and Force Your Radio Listening
preferences on all the rest of the Members
of your Community -cause- They Have The
Equal Right To Listen and -ps- They Are
The Majority at least in your Rural Area.
-liberals-always-wanting-to-control-and-
-dictate-what-others-can-hear-and-watch-
=Conservatives=The=Freedom=To=Be=Yourself=
=and=Allowing=Others=To=Do=The=Same=
talking about personal freedom,,, Freedom...
FREEDOM ! ! ! ~ RHF
* To Listen the Radio of Your Choice
* To Watch the TV of Your Choice
* To Surf the Internet of Your Choice
* To Read the Book/Paper of Your Choice
* To Think For Yourself
-just-say-'no'-to-liberal-overlords-
-dictating-your-choices-
-and-limiting-your-'right-to-choose'-
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dave
ALEC claims to be an independent, nonpartisan, public-private partnership, but the best metaphor for the organization is an aspen grove. An aspen grove appears to be a cluster of individual trees, but a look beneath the surface reveals that each tree is an offshoot of the same large root network, each tree genetically identical to the other.
In the case of ALEC, a common filament in that network is the Koch brothers, Charles and David. Through the profits of Wichita, Kan.-based Koch Industries (and other Koch-controlled corporations), the two billionaire brothers fund myriad right-wing public policy foundations.
ALEC has received significant funding from the Charles Koch Foundation (CKF), which also funds the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank. In 1974, Cato was originally incorporated as The Charles Koch Foundation. David Koch is currently on its board of directors.
David Koch is also a trustee of The Reason Foundation, a libertarian public policy institute and prominent ALEC member that promotes the privatization of government (and also receives CKF funding). Michael Flynn, Reason's current director of government affairs, served as a director of ALEC policy and legislative activities/strategic initiatives for several years ending in 2003.
David Koch also currently chairs the Americans for Prosperity Foundation (AFPF), formerly known as the Citizens for a Sound Economy Educational Foundation (another prominent ALEC-contributor), largely funded by CKF and Koch Industries. Joining him on that board is Koch Industries Executive Vice President Richard Fink, who is also the former executive vice president of the Mercatus Center, yet another Koch-funded, right-wing ALEC public policy member.
In 2003, AFPF incarnated two more foundations: Americans for Prosperity and FreedomWorks. As noted in AFPF's 2003 tax records, the group paid U.S. House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-Texas) $429,583, via FreedomWorks, as a "consultant"--his first year salary as chairman of FreedomWorks.
As Kate Zernike noted in our October 2010 cover story, "Tea Party Confidential," Armey and the group's president Matt Kibbe wrote an op-ed article in 2007 proposing the Boston Tea Party as a model for putting grassroots pressure on a central government. She writes, "Presaging Tea Party tactics in the summer of 2009, they described how Samuel Adams packed town hall meetings with his supporters to drown out Tory voices and used each new British policy or tax as 'an excuse to rally new recruits to the cause of American independence.' They wrote, 'Adams was the first American to recognize that "it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather, an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.' "
Beginning in 2009, FreedomWorks was instrumental in creating the
faux-populist Tea Party. The mainstream media uncritically hyped the
scores of Tea Party tax day protests orchestrated by FreedomWorks and
the National Taxpayers Union (another Koch-funded ALEC group headed by
former ALEC executive director Duane Parde), thus helping enable
unprecedented Republican legislative majorities in states across the
nation.
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/11603/publicopoly_exposed/
dave
I get broadcast basic cable, which is what it sounds like. No over the
air TV. No cablle TV [not even] news. I am surrounded by close-in
ridgelines, around 300' above me, except due south. Mt. Wilson is 3
ridgelines away, behind 5,100' Magic Mountain.
I have asked you repeatedly, over many months, to give an example of NPR
advocating a partisan position. Judging by your lack of even a single
cogent response I must presume the following:
To some people, facts have a liberal bias.
RHF
- months, to give an example of NPR
- advocating a partisan position.
- Judging by your lack of even a single
- cogent response I must presume the following:
Dave -you' are a product of years of NPR
'programming' {Liberal Indoctrination} and
"Pacifica" Advocacy : Hence a completely
Radicalized Left-Wing Media Consumer...
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- To some people, facts have a liberal bias.
NPR Dave -iirc- 'you' have claimed :
The Truth Has A Liberal BIAS.
-truth-according-to-dave-
-aka- The Facts Has A Natural Liberal BIAS !
-facts-according-to-dave-
-wrt- The Liberal Agenda !
-all-liberal-all-the-time-
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RHF
> RHF wrote:
- 'bout fuckin' time! Let's roll!
Yeah Dave, you are such a good little Cheerleader
for Liberal {Left-Wing} Democrat Intolerance and
Hate Speech : Against their 'perceived' Enemies
of the State {The Obama-Regime}
"Let's Take These Son-of-a-Bitches Out !"
-a-la- Jimmy Hoffa Jr. Teamster Union Boss
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/05/hoffa-on-tea-party-take-these-sons-bitches-out/
-as-prez-a-dundz-obama-smiled-approvingly-
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Jimmy Hoffa Jr. Calls Upon All Soldiers-of-The-Obama
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2e30541f5a6e5cd0
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Liberal Hate Speech Inciting Violence Against
All The See As Their Enemies
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/05f1e1c16a8c3a44
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4d2df5f6a26a58f3
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-aka- Enemies of the Obama-Regime {The State}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/05f1e1c16a8c3a44
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8f14d404272a4c30
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Liberal Intolerance -aka- Liberal HATE Speech :
Proving once again that "Liberal-Fascism" Does
Exist and is Something the Liberals and so-called
Progressives Can NOT Explain Away©
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/8b29619837dd65e7
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Dave, Dave, Dave : Once Again You Prove That You
Are NO Libertarian of any Stripe
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/ebdb61838bf58144
-but- an Intolerant Elitist With Liberal-Fascist
Tendencies to Send-Out Union 'Thug' Death Squads
To Attack Americans and Intimidate Political Opponents
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/6c6455c63630fdc2
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Q? : Why Did Prez Obama Use The Hate Speech
Code Word "ATTACK"-wrt- To the State of
Wisconsin and The Union Workers !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af57867c1c50aa53
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Gary Forbis
gave them in context. He also included the "Don't retreat, reload".
Did you complain about the heavy use of the Jefferson quote,
"The tree of Liberty needs to be watered from time to time with the
blood of patriots and tyrants" which actually was a call to violence
rather than to vote?
Richard Steel
Tell me a single Tea Party member who's sympathetic on Television
today.
Please list ANY major story which was critical of Obama that wasn't
broken by FOX News, Talk Radio, or Conservative New Media.
Richard Steel
loves to ramble. What's your point?
dave
I don't understand the first question.
Every mainstream news outlet is critical of Obama. Talk Radio is not
news. It is pure entertainment and not to be taken seriously. Other than
the ATF sting that got out of control, I can't think of anything I heard
first on the Reactionary Emotional Media.
RHF
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 06:24:49 -0700 (PDT), Richard Steel
> <rsteel2...@aol.com> wrote:
> >OK, so you found some look with a cracked copy of "Woodpress" who
> >loves to ramble.
-that-today's-topic-is-
Obama-Hoffa Liberal HATE Speech Inciting Violence
Against All The See As Their Enemies . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3dbbaf3fd3d814cf
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- That you're a wingnut?
-that-your-'wingnut'-reply-is-so-"obamabot"-
Obama-Hoffa Liberal HATE Speech Inciting Violence
Against All The See As Their Enemies . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3dbbaf3fd3d814cf
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RHF
- apologist who views "news" on faux as truth
- ---which is why Murdoch does very well.
-
- His other sources are "worldNutDaily",
- "Heritage", "Free Pubic" and I'd bet if
- "weekly World News" was still around
- ---we'd see that too.
? less than educated republican apologist ?
-one-more-obama-butt-kisser-comment-
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Against All The See As Their Enemies . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3dbbaf3fd3d814cf
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RHF
- on the Reactionary Emotional Media.
-dave-you-can't-hear-it-cause-you-don't-listen-
Against All The See As Their Enemies . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3dbbaf3fd3d814cf
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RHF
> While John Stewart agrees with you about Hoffa's words he at least
> gave them in context.
- He also included the "Don't retreat, reload".
-here-is-my-'don't-retreat,-reload.'-
Obama-Hoffa Liberal HATE Speech Inciting Violence
Against All The See As Their Enemies . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3dbbaf3fd3d814cf
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dave
German Unemployment Declined in January to Lowest Since 1992
As unemployment lines shorten and the population shrinks, industrial companies face a skilled labor shortage that may restrain growth. Photographer: Michele Tantussi/Bloomberg
German unemployment fell to an 18- year low in January, stoking concerns that the world’s second- largest exporter is running short of skilled labor after the fastest economic expansion since reunification in 1990.
The number of people out of work declined a seasonally adjusted 13,000
to 3.135 million, the lowest since November 1992, the Nuremberg-based
Federal Labor Agency said today. Economists forecast a drop of 10,000,
according to the median of 32 estimates in he adjusted jobless rate
fell to 7.4 percent from 7.5 percent. a Bloomberg News survey. T
RHF
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-01/german-unemployment-falls-to...
>
> German Unemployment Declined in January to Lowest Since 1992
>
> As unemployment lines shorten and the population shrinks, industrial companies face a skilled labor shortage that may restrain growth. Photographer: Michele Tantussi/Bloomberg
>
> German unemployment fell to an 18- year low in January, stoking concerns that the world¢s second- largest exporter is running short of skilled labor after the fastest economic expansion since reunification in 1990.
>
> The number of people out of work declined a seasonally adjusted 13,000
> to 3.135 million, the lowest since November 1992, the Nuremberg-based
> Federal Labor Agency said today. Economists forecast a drop of 10,000,
> according to the median of 32 estimates in he adjusted jobless rate
> fell to 7.4 percent from 7.5 percent. a Bloomberg News survey. T
-m4-mania-dave-wrote-subjectline-
OT: Old Europe Democratic Socialism Rocks!
-reality-check-
One Good Apple {Germany} in a Barrel of
Rotten {Collectivists} Applies will not
Fix the Cancer of Socialism in Euro-Land.
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Just like a $450B Obam-U-ist© Spending Package
will NOT Help the US Job Market except to Export
More Cash$$$ To Obama's World Banker Masters
and Globalist Controllers
Obama = spend,,, More Spending... HIGHER SPENDING ! ! !
-debt- -debt- -debt- -debt- -debt- -debt- -debt-
Obama = taxes,,, More Taxes... HIGHER TAXES ! ! !
-slavery- -slavery- -slavery- -slavery- -slavery-
Obama = Failure Upon Failure Upon Failure
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The Obama Regime's ObamaNomics© - Bad for
the US Stock Market [Tanked Tanked & Tanked]
and Bad for US Employment [Down Down & Down]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/135fa53246c5d470
-those-bad-bush-days-are-now-worst-obama-weeks-
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Prez-A-Duntz "BO" {Obama} Is Bad For America !
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/ce70e63a8efe5d8f
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Prez-A-Duntz "BO" {Obama} Is Bad For World Peace !
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/73581661644ac06e
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The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline :
Crashing The US Economy and Destroying
Global Economics
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/dbe6320b24966200
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The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = 10%++ Un-Employment :
Trashing The US Economy and Exporting Jobs Via
Excessive Obama-Regime Regulations and Taxes
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/155eb7ab42048313
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1st ! - No One in The World Believes Obama Anymore
-failure-obama-just-not-up-to-the-job-failure-
2nd - The World Hates Obama More Than Bush Now !
-obama-bad-for-the-world-and-the-usa-
3rd - Americans Are More Despised Around
The World Today Than Before Obama !
-obama-bad-for-america-and-the-world-
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The Obama Imperial Presidency + Obama Exceeded
His Presidential Authority :
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c5fe44e8d49153c0
Obama = Nixon & Nixon = Obama
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/aa060ca993d88f77
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The War Monger 'Obama' Is Bad For World Peace !
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.liberalism/msg/c34f3cb87fbf3dbd
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RHF
> On Sep 9, 3:37 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net (J R) wrote:
>
> > Go live in old Europa,,, den (den I pee once, den two asses they come
> > together, How to spell Mississippi-Emma come first) you let us know how
> > you like livin in old Europa.
> > Actually, I wouldn't mind if I lived on one of those little bitty
> > Islands off the wild and wooly West Coast of Ireland.
>
> > 'backdoor' assholes.http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=313209
> > cuhulin
- nepotism at the highest level!
NAH ! -it's- 21st Century Obama-Klepto-Cracy !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleptocracy
The Obama-Regime a Government-for-a-Price :
http://www.kennislink.nl/upload/143826_962_1135610059353-judith-van-der-veer2-1.jpg
"OF" The Liberal-Democrat Corrupted
"BY" The Liberal-Democrat Corruptors
"FOR" The Liberal-Democrat Corruptees
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