America Held Hostage: 41% Self-Identify as Extremist Fringe Tea-Bagging Terrorists
Chas.Chan
extremist, radical, tea-bagging terrorists as there are liberals.
Obviously this will be major news.
Crickets...
http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2011/08/america-held-hostage-41-self-identify.html
DogDiesel
people that want the government to have a balanced budget ,
a strong dollar, and no debt and deficits.
are patriots.
Joe from Kokomo
> Gee, there are twice as many of these hardline, lunatic fringe,
> extremist, radical, tea-bagging terrorists as there are liberals.
Speaking of the "lunatic fringe" tea-baggers...
One of the speakers at Texas Governor Rick Perry's prayer meetin' says
that the Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor was a gift from the French
Freemasons and is a (are you ready?)...a DEMONIC ICON.
It don't get any more lunatic fringe than that. You go, Ricky!
Bwahahahahahaha...
Slackjaw
Tea Party Terrorists running rampant!
Buoyed by their success in the recent debt ceiling debate, Tea Party
terrorists have set their cross-hairs on new targets : private citizens!
Joe Maxwell, a 43-year-old accountant, was apprehended Tuesday by a
gang of armed, masked Tea Party terrorists. As he later related, they
put a gun to his head and demanded that he pay off his credit cards.
Then the terrorists engaged into another act of terror by forcing
Maxwell to adopt a monthly budgeting plan so that he could live
within his means.
"It was horrible, but what else could I do? They were going to blow my
head off" Maxwell said later, after speaking to reporters, "I have to
live on my $75,000 a year salary without borrowing - and I have to
start paying off my mortgage on time every month. It's like my freedom
of choice has been taken away from me."
Other victims report similar acts of terror - masked gunmen armed with
deadly explosives and poison gas are breaking into people's homes and
forcing them to assume financial responsibility. One victim, a
semi-retarded Welfare recipient named Sid9, who did not wish to give
his last name, related that the terrorists forced him to stop buying
drugs with his government supplied stipend, but made him purchase (and
use )personal hygiene items instead.
--
dave
What is a conservative?
70% of Americans believe in angels. That doesn't mean they are real.
dave
I'm all for that. Give me my Social security in a lump sum and I'll be
on my way.
RHF
>On 08/06/2011 05:38 PM, DogDiesel wrote:
>> people that want the government to have a balanced budget ,
>> a strong dollar, and no debt and deficits.
>>
>> are patriots.
>>
>>
>>
>
- I'm all for that.
- Give me my Social security in a lump sum
- and I'll be on my way.
M4 Mania Dave,
-hint- Social Security is NOT a Defined Benefit Retirement System.
Your Social Security was spent many years ago : In the revolving-door
Collect-from-the-Working and Pay-to-the-Retired FDR "Ponzi-Scheme"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
But -if- you insist in a Social Security 'Lump Sum' Payment :
Be sure to check your Stocking this Christmas for your
Paid-in-Full Lump-of-Coal !
~ RHF
.
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:06:59 -0700, dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
>> On 08/06/2011 05:38 PM, DogDiesel wrote:
>>> people that want the government to have a balanced budget ,
>>> a strong dollar, and no debt and deficits.
>>>
>>> are patriots.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> - I'm all for that.
> - Give me my Social security in a lump sum
> - and I'll be on my way.
you lost it in a Ponzi scheme, those people rarely get much money back.
Take the loss and put the people that run the Ponzi scheme in prison
with Bernie Maddoff. Then sue them and take their personal assets and
that will be the best you can hope for.
dave
>
> you lost it in a Ponzi scheme, those people rarely get much money back.
>
>
> Take the loss and put the people that run the Ponzi scheme in prison
> with Bernie Maddoff. Then sue them and take their personal assets and
> that will be the best you can hope for.
>
Three trillion dollars in T-bills is no Ponzi scheme. That is what the
people who want to steal it tell idiots like you, so when they do take
it you won't get mad. I have made 6 figures in direct SSA payments, I do
not expect to live long enough to collect it all.
Bert Hyman
<da...@dave.dave> wrote:
> I have made 6 figures in direct SSA payments,
All of which has already been spent in payments to those currently
collecting. Anything you collect will come from money paid in by those
still working and paying the tax.
--
be...@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN
Sid9
"dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
news:4e413fc0$0$12451$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com...
Sign up for Medicare.
Then you'll live long enough.
Oh, I know, you wont because it's a government program
Beam Me Up Scotty
If you stop taking in new suckers, and keep paying out benefits.....
will it still be solvent?
If not, it's a Ponzi scheme. And we know this Ponzi scheme is paying
out more than it's taking in.
Without new people putting their money in, so SS can be paid out to the
older investors, the SS system will cut returns/benefits and eventually
fail.
Sid9
"Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
message news:4E414E48...@blackhole.nebulax.com...
> On 8/9/2011 10:10 AM, dave wrote:
>> On 08/09/2011 06:25 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> you lost it in a Ponzi scheme, those people rarely get much money back.
>>>
>>>
>>> Take the loss and put the people that run the Ponzi scheme in prison
>>> with Bernie Maddoff. Then sue them and take their personal assets and
>>> that will be the best you can hope for.
>>>
>>
>> Three trillion dollars in T-bills is no Ponzi scheme. That is what the
>> people who want to steal it tell idiots like you, so when they do take
>> it you won't get mad. I have made 6 figures in direct SSA payments, I do
>> not expect to live long enough to collect it all.
>
> If you stop taking in new suckers, and keep paying out benefits.....
> will it still be solvent?
>
>
What or who will stop it?
It's worked in Germany since 1890..
Beam Me Up Scotty
The collapsing economy will stop it.
The fact that more people collect than pay in is cataclysmic... Are you
going to start a war to kill enough elderly Americans to get the ratio
of payers to users more equal?
dave
>
> If you stop taking in new suckers, and keep paying out benefits.....
> will it still be solvent?
>
>
> If not, it's a Ponzi scheme. And we know this Ponzi scheme is paying
> out more than it's taking in.
>
> Without new people putting their money in, so SS can be paid out to the
> older investors, the SS system will cut returns/benefits and eventually
> fail.
>
Ronald Reagan saved Social Security for Baby Boomers. The people you
support are trying to steal it. We vote and we have guns.
dave
>
> The fact that more people collect than pay in is cataclysmic... Are you
> going to start a war to kill enough elderly Americans to get the ratio
> of payers to users more equal?
>
Have a donut hole between $107K and $500K. Above $500K 3% payroll tax
resumes. Rich people are expected to contribute more because they
benefit more. Nobody wants to live among desperate poor people; they
smell bad and run down the property values.
Without cheap immigrant labor (or worse) there'd be no USA as we know it.
Sid9
It hasn't for 121 years in Germany
It hasn't for 76 years in the United States.
Beam Me Up Scotty
WWII was a total collapse of Germany and any Socialist government
payments were made by the Marshal Plan and we paid for it and we killed
the elderly in the carpet bombing, so that they could start fresh.
Hitler had to Kill the old the sick the crippled and the Jews and
Gypsies to help pay for it.... Good plan, stick to it and America will
hang "you" for crimes against humanity like we did the other NAZIs.
Obama has already chosen to use "death panels" to limit the care to all
Americans and eventually target those that cost most and return the
least will be "sorted out" like Hitler did and America will be hanging
those bureaucrats along with you.
Sid9
.
.
Seek help before you do damage to yourself and your family.
Beam Me Up Scotty
I point out the facts and you call me crazy..... Hitler took the view,
everyone else was crazy and he was enlightened.
I'm telling what happened in History and you you think "I'm" crazy?
You're the one repeating the failed crazy history. A history that ended
badly. You brought up that history and apparently didn't know about that
history. I'm only telling you the truth and the facts so that you can
see that you're repeating it. I didn't ban you from being stupid, be
as stupid as you like. I did point out what happened to the last stupid
people that followed the same foot steps you're taking.
We've been down this road before, and you learned nothing!
Bert Hyman
wrote:
> Lotsa people didn't starve because of it, BertieLoon
Because you're too much of a cheap shit to support private charity?
Or maybe because you're just a loudmouthed hypocrite.
Brenda Ann
"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in message
news:4E41601B...@blackhole.nebulax.com...
The collapsing economy will stop it.
The fact that more people collect than pay in is cataclysmic... Are you
going to start a war to kill enough elderly Americans to get the ratio
of payers to users more equal?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It was @%#$^! wars that CREATED the problem....
Sid9
"Brenda Ann" <newsg...@fullspectrumradio.org> wrote in message
news:a_ednanbPrtBA9zT...@giganews.com...
Hint: Easily fixed.
dave
Sid9
"dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
.
.
There is no problem that can't be easily solved.
1. End the SS Trustee's use of a 75 year window.
2. End the salary cap
End of problem.
Baby boomers entering the system now, 65 years old, will be leaving the
system in 20 years as they age out.
Another radical right wing 'crisis' created from whole cloth.
RHF
>On 08/09/2011 06:25 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>
>>
>> you lost it in a Ponzi scheme, those people rarely get much money back.
>>
>>
>> Take the loss and put the people that run the Ponzi scheme in prison
>> with Bernie Maddoff. Then sue them and take their personal assets and
>> that will be the best you can hope for.
>>
- Three trillion dollars in T-bills is no Ponzi scheme.
Dave and that is soon to be worthless due to "Quantitative
Easing" by the {Non-US} Federal Reserve 'Banksters'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing
- That is what the people who want to steal it
- tell idiots like you, so when they do take it
- you won't get mad.
Not Mad At All -never-counted-on-it-
- I have made 6 figures in direct SSA payments,
Dave the Social Security Recipients who got your Money
"Thank You :o)" -and- The Illegal Alien Invaders from
Mexico and beyond who are NOT Paying into the US
Social Security System -say- Screw-You Gringo !
- I do not expect to live long enough to collect it all.
Oh Boy Dave,,, We Can Use Your Excess to Give-A-Way
even More Free Benefits to Illegal Alien Invaders from
Mexico and beyond . . .
dave live long and prosper* ~ RHF
* survive/exist on social security
.
dave
>
>
> "Thank You :o)" -and- The Illegal Alien Invaders from
> Mexico and beyond who are NOT Paying into the US
> Social Security System -say- Screw-You Gringo
>
Illegal workers pay into SS; they do not collect retirement benefits
RHF
Actually US Social Security is clearly and truthfully identified
by it's name "Social" as in 'Socialist' {Collective} and that is
OK {Good?} .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_%28United_States%29
-promotes-the-'general-welfare'-of-senior-citizens-and-society-
Point-of-Fact : The Rich Wealthy Do NOT Pay Their
"Fair Share" of US Social Security Costs
-'social-{economic}-justice'-demands-that-they-do-
The Failure is that -if- US Social Security is Truly a Wealth
Redistribution Scheme : Taxing {Taking from} Present-Day
Income Earners and Giving To Current Retirees a Limited
Fixed Benefit {Modest Retirement Income}
*THEN* All Income with No Cap should be Taxed to Pay
the Full {Fool} Cost of US Social Security
# 1 - The First Step to Making US Social Security Solvent
is to Eliminate the Tax Income Cap.
The Second Step is to Increase the Tax
The Third Step is to Raise the Retirement Age
The Fourth Step is to Limit/Reduce* Future Benefits
* Means Testing
-former-president-bush-don't-need-no-social-security-
~ RHF
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RHF
>On 08/09/2011 08:12 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>
>>
>> If you stop taking in new suckers, and keep paying out benefits.....
>> will it still be solvent?
>>
>>
>> If not, it's a Ponzi scheme. And we know this Ponzi scheme is paying
>> out more than it's taking in.
>>
>> Without new people putting their money in, so SS can be paid out to the
>> older investors, the SS system will cut returns/benefits and eventually
>> fail.
>>
- Ronald Reagan saved Social Security for Baby Boomers.
- The people you support are trying to steal it.
- We vote and we have guns.
M4* Mania Dave -proclaims- We Vote and We Have Guns !
* Mucho Medical-Marijuana Madness [M4]
-one-toke-over-the-line-dave-one-toke-over-the-line-
.
Patriotic Comrade Dave Preach That 'Armed' REVOLUTION !
-but-please-dave-:-do-not-smoke-marijuana-and-use-a-gun-
SUI : Shooting Under the Influence = Injury-Death-Suicide
.
Speaking of which Anyone Found/Caught with Illegal Drugs
and Weapons : Should Be Automatically Barred from Owning
Weapons-Firearms : Guns, Pistols, Rifles, ETC...
-atf-do-not-buy-firearms-list-
http://www.atf.gov/contact/hotlines/
-add-one-more-to-the-
800+ "Dave -proclaims-" Posts Here at/on Rec.Radio.Shortwave
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/81e3e675cda3b450
.
~ RHF
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RHF
>On 8/9/2011 3:04 PM, RHF wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Thank You :o)" -and- The Illegal Alien Invaders from
>> Mexico and beyond who are NOT Paying into the US
>> Social Security System -say- Screw-You Gringo
>>
-Illegal workers pay into SS; they do not collect retirement benefits
These are Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico and beyond . . .
-aka- Un-Documented Workers {Off-the-Books}
Some/Many Do Use Phony SSN's and Pay into Social Security Illegally
and Thus They Have NO Right to the Benefits Due to Their Fraud.
Some/Many Do NOT Pay Any Social Security by Working Off-the-Books
and Thus They Have NO Right to the Benefits Due to Their Fraud.
.
Neither of which changes the Fact that Social Security is a
"Ponzi-Scheme" opperated-by the US Federal Government.
and that is how 'i' see it ~ RHF
.
Beam Me Up Scotty
The war will start in your back yard, the old and sick will run out of
medicine and die..... that's the Socialist plan. Shave off a few
million maybe 20 or 30 million will just die in an expedited way that
"can't be helped" amidst all the chaos and confusion and violence and
burning cities and lack of electricity and medical care. Obama is
following the "plan".
Good luck, England is following the plan also. People will be afraid
to venture out like they are in London..... Wisconsin is beginning the
riots and the Socialist agitation and community activist violence, it's
convenient that Wisconsin is where the Democrat-Socialists sent all
their activists to stir up trouble for the Governor who cut UNION
benefits. It's going to get worse....
The Socialists have a plan for you.
Beam Me Up Scotty
What a great idea, refuse to patrol the borders.... give them all
amnesty. To hide the FRAUD that the government politicians have
inflicted on us all.
Beam Me Up Scotty
Illegals all get amnesty.
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 23:49:46 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Then-Destro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
>> The war will start in your back yard, the old and sick will run out of
>> medicine and die..... that's the Socialist plan.
>
>
> Last I heard the young were dying in two wars your idiot bush caused
> (by lying his ass off)
And now Obama is killing those young and creating new wars to waste
money on.
Beam Me Up Scotty
>
> WHACK ! !
You never learn....
Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Then-Destro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
>> The war will start in your back yard, the old and sick will run out of
>> medicine and die..... that's the Socialist plan.
>
>
> Last I heard the young were dying in two wars your idiot bush caused
> (by lying his ass off)
And now Obama is killing those young and creating new wars to waste
money on.
Obama is killing the old and the sick and the young in Libya.... as he
will do here on American soil. He'll do it and claim that he isn't doing
it. He'll find a dupe or a fall guy or a "NATO" to hand it off to, and
you'll see the old and the sick die from shortages and violence and
chaos and you'll support Obama.
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 12:30:52 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Then-Destro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
>>> Last I heard the young were dying in two wars your idiot bush caused
>>> (by lying his ass off)
>>
>>
>> And now Obama is killing those young and creating new wars to waste
>> money on.
>
>
> You referring to the UN sanctions that NATO is conducting against
> Libya---the one under command and control of NATO?
NATO is NOT the U.N. military....
Obama has us paying for his personal war that he started with U.S.
Missiles from the U.S. Navy. Obama then saw that the U.S. voters
didn't want the war so Obama pawned it off on NATO which the U.S. pays
mega dollars to fund.
Of course NATO didn't snub Obama who has power over NATO. NATO is a
mercenary army, they work for those that pay them and WE PAY NATO MORE
THAN ANYONE.
NATO is a rogue MERCENARY ARMY that's out of control.
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:25:44 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Then-Destro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
>> Obama is killing the old and the sick and the young in Libya....
>
>
> Are you now saying that Obama, not Kadaffy, issued a threat to kill
> liibyans on sight?
Saddam made similar threats, Obama and Democrats were against that
war.....
Your logic isn't rational.
RHF
Everyth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
The War Monger 'Obama' Is Bad For World Peace !
# 1 Support The US Troops By Bring Them
All Home from the Obama{Bush} Wars
# 2 Demilitarize the World By Bring US Troops
Back to the USA from Europe, Japan and Korea
Obama The Great War Monger !
-wrt- Obama The Great Crusader Against Islam
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.news-media/msg/53b956a9386824df
* Ron Paul -says- Impeach Obama for Illegal Libya War !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6468b6810f7d797b
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Obama Keeps Exposing Himself As A Bloody War Monger !
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.liberalism/msg/e4e6a984b01430f1
* Dennis Kucinich -says- Impeach Obama for Illegal Libya War !
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.liberalism/msg/e0da48b39619d212
.
Prez "BO" {Obama} should be Impeached for Starting
an Illegal {Un-Authored by the US Congress} War
for Oil in Libya
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a85a665903ec9613
* Ralph Nader -says- Impeach Obama for Illegal Libya War !
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/73581661644ac06e
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Obama is Bush Revisited
{Obama Afghanistan & Libya = Nixon Vietnam}
-and-
Bush was Obama in 'White-Face'
Nixon : I Am Not A Criminal
Obama : I Am Not A Politician
-where- Criminal = Politician
-matter-of-fact- Bush & Obama = Obama & Bush
Are Related {Connecting Family Lines}
-ps- Cheney Too is a distant Obama-Kin :o)
.
The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline :
Prez Obama's New Illegal War-for-Oil in Libya !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/814588a780549bc8
.
The Truth About $6.66 Gasoline
and The-Mark-of-the-Obama©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e68178baeabfb4c8
.
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BDK
Every...@blackhole.nebulax.com says...
I really need to know what it is you're drinking/snorting/huffing, so I
can make sure I never get exposed to it.
You're really on a bad trip, dude.
--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!
Beam Me Up Scotty
It's called "pure socialist dogma"
...and it's a really bad trip.
--
Helping the poor use their money more wisely is better than government
gifts allowing more waste.
http://www.ebates.com/rf.do?referrerid=Ho50UCJGk3FsQj%2F6nmqZVA%3D%3D
BDK
That's why you need to get help. In reality, there's very little
socialist anything going on from the white house. Maybe you don't really
understand exactly what you're raving about? What plan do you believe is
being followed?
I really am interested in the kookthought process.
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:49:12 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Then-Destro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
>> On 8/10/2011 3:33 PM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 12:30:52 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
>>> <Then-Destro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Last I heard the young were dying in two wars your idiot bush caused
>>>>> (by lying his ass off)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And now Obama is killing those young and creating new wars to waste
>>>> money on.
>>>
>>> What "new war"?
>>>
>>> You referring to the UN sanctions that NATO is conducting against
>>> Libya---the one under command and control of NATO?
>>
>> NATO is NOT the U.N. military....
>
>
>> Obama has us paying for his personal war that he started with U.S.
>> Missiles from the U.S. Navy.
>
> behest of the command and control of NATO (authorized by the UN)
Sorry slick, but a UN resolution is meaningless on going to war, all
power to declare war is constitutionally mandated to the Congress, The
only way it can be changed is to change the constitution, the power can
NOT be given to the UN or the President or NATO without an amendment to
the constitution.
No army until congress says so and pays for it.
You Democrat-Socialists want to complain about military costs, it was
Democrats that voted to pay for Bush's wars...... They even gave Bush
the constitutional power to go fight. Obama was never given the power
to go to war or to use NATO to go to war.
Now tell us where the Obama power came from to launch missiles at Libya
and to allow our military, be they NATO or NOT, to bomb or watch or
target or in any way molest Libya? Libya had NOT threatened our security
in any way. This was an act of agression and not using the military as
defence as the constitution says the military is for "defence".
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:18:26 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Then-Destro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
>>> I really need to know what it is you're drinking/snorting/huffing, so I
>>> can make sure I never get exposed to it.
>>>
>>> You're really on a bad trip, dude.
>>>
>>
>>
>> It's called "pure socialist dogma"
>>
>
> production and distribution of goods and services by a central
> government? (Soon?)
>
> Or is this part of a comic skit?
>
> Hmmm?
Tune into the "Daily Show with Jon Stewart".....
He has all the pertinent Progressive-Socialist hard news.
BDK
Yoor...@Jurgis.net says...
Oh yeah, but he's no Guthball, or Wrong Turn Joe.