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Rebuttal to Andy Chungs False Omar diet. What god does Andy Chung follow?

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Peter B.

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Jul 31, 2010, 3:48:43 PM7/31/10
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
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> Peter B. wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

Andy lied in the above statement. I hate to say it but Andy is in GROSS
error.

>>
>> > The Great Physician is always right and He prescribes the
>> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER

This also is a lie, Read the entire chapter of Exodus 16 to put it all in
context. Also read preceding and following chapters for a better picture of
the truth. Andy is no great physician, he is a physician in name only. "The
Great Physician" set up a food program to allow the Israelites to wander
through the desert for 40 years as punishment. He fed them Manna which would
turn to maggot infested garbage if they tried to save it for the next day
with the exception of every Friday in which case they were to take twice the
normal amount.

>> > Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.
>> >

It was mandatory.

>>
>> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much
>> as
>> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
>> persons each of you has in his tent.'"
>
> Amen.
>
> Source:

Source is the Bible.

>> Omer = 3.3 liters.
>
> Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
> sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
> future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
> of the Covenant has since been lost to us.
>

Again you are wrong, 3.3 liters or an omer of manna was placed in a storage
jar, then put IN the Ark of the Covenant other wise it would waste away,
rotted my maggots. The Believers are under a New Covenant.

> Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
> of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
> by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
> oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
> else who have been doing the same.
>

You look like you haven't eaten much. Who is the "us" that God allowed to
believe a lie? Fact is, what god is it that gave you empirical understanding
that clearly conflicts with His Word? EH? Is it the same false god whose
spirit controls your mind? That commands you to speak words of deceit
regarding Gods Holy Word? That allows you to change the meaning of His
Truth? 13 years you have been following a lie, trying to deceive others with
your pompous title and attitudes, with your false "insiders" knowledge.

Want to clear this all up? Then refute what you have written and fall down
before the Lord and confess your sins. Then write articles and posts asking
for forgiveness from all of us. OR.....

Quote Bible Book, Chapter and Verse and refute the verses I quoted. Of
course you cannot do that since the word does not contradict itself. But
heh! Give it a try. More proof follows for all to understand.

> An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
> according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
>
> Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control.
>

You have no proof of that.

2 Peter 1:20-21 (New American Standard Bible)

20 But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of
one's own interpretation

Can you read that Andy? God does not allow you to make something up. He
gives you no private or empirical interpretation. God is a God of truth, not
lies.

The Omer of Exodus 16:16 is a unit of measurement. Now an omer is the tenth
part of an ephah. Exodus 16:36 Got it? God stated that, do you dare differ?

ephah also epha n. An ancient Hebrew unit of dry measure, equal to a tenth
of a homer or about one bushel (35 liters)


So you see? 1/10th of a bushel = 3.5 liters, Have you the presence of mind
to clearly understand that?

Now lets convert a liter to ounces, ok? 3.5 liters times 33.8 oz equals
118.3 oz. Now lets put that into quarts, ok? 118.3 divided by 32 oz = 3.7
quarts.

Now anyone can see that you fraudulently base your diet plan on the Bible.

The closest you could come to truth would be to offer up 3.7 gallons a day
of Manna as a diet plan. With twice that on Friday since it was not to be
gathered on Saturday, nor baked or boiled on that day. We all now it is not
within your power nor intelligence to do that.

Now, you think that you are smarter than the Most High God? Dare you state
that God gave you empirical judgment contrary to His Word?

God holds the copyright on His Word, it may not be modified, nor its meaning
twisted to suit the purpose of one sniveling little man. I haven't a clue
about your 2 million approach but I suspect you are mimicking someone else's
diet plan on the Internet.

So now please "revisit' your falsely based diet plan and let it be known to
all that it is simply the figment of your imagination.

After you have acknowledged that the Word of God is true, that you are
wrong, then let us discuss your preying on weak women and your lusting after
the flesh. Every woman should be aware of your fantasies and sexual desires
outside of the Word of God.

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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"Peter B." wrote:

> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message

> > Peter B. wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> Andy lied in the above statement. I hate to say it but Andy is in GROSS
> error.

So is TOTH!

Peter B.

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"Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote in
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Who/whatever toth is.

Did Andy hit on you too?

I hope you noticed that Andy didn't man up.

carole

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Its Linda playing games with you.

carole


Peter B.

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Naw, its another idiota.

carole

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>>>>
>>>


>>> Who/whatever toth is.
>>>
>>> Did Andy hit on you too?
>>>
>>> I hope you noticed that Andy didn't man up.
>>
>> Its Linda playing games with you.
>>
>> carole
>>
>>
>
> Naw, its another idiota.

Does anything in this address look familiar?

Peter B.

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"carole" <hubbc...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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Only lady azure nym, I hadn't bothered verifying anything. It looks mainly
like a proud whores nym.

Jimmy Alpha

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Peter B. wrote:
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
> news:8e246863-09a4-4bbf...@y11g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>> Peter B. wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> Andy lied in the above statement. I hate to say it but Andy is in GROSS
> error.

Andy is seen as but a *joke*, a bad one at that!
Jimmy Alpha

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.

> >
>
> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as
> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
> persons each of you has in his tent.'"

Amen.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?

> Omer = 3.3 liters.

Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
of the Covenant has since been lost to us.

Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer


of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
else who have been doing the same.

An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person


according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.

Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control.

Yes, the right amount control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> > Freckles wrote:
>
> >> Eat more whole grains for a better diet.
> >>
> >> http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/reap-the-benefits-of-whole-grains
> >
> > Eat the right amount (32 oz) per day for better health and wellbeing.
>
> That is a particularly ignorant/dumb statement.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/443f61cdd0473b11?

Not for the discerning who are familiar with Proverbs 25:16 which
teaches us that eating the right amount of food is more important for
health and wellbeing than what we are eating.

Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like
you, Peter B.:

2 Peter 2:22

Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:

http://WDJW.net/CV

Here is another's opinion about you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ad3ab8bf96435b6?

Bottom line concerning you, Peter:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/abf1b9d597143cff?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/63d9553d4c7b8f7b?

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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"Peter B." wrote:

> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote in
> message >
> >

> > "Peter B." wrote:
> >
> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
> >> > Peter B. wrote:
> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >> Andy lied in the above statement. I hate to say it but Andy is in GROSS
> >> error.
> >
> > So is TOTH!
> >
>
> Who/whatever toth is.

GREAT SAGE ITCHY SCRATCHY!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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MU wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > MU wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
> >>> of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
> >>> by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
> >>> oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
> >>> else who have been doing the same.
> >>>
> >>> An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
> >>> according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
> >>>
> >>> Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, the right amount control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much more
> >>> sophisticated and smarter:
> >>>
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
> >>
> >>"Yes, I would agree, and as I've posted in the past, I've discovered
> >>by experiment that with my typical kind of diet, 2lbs is about the
> >>threshold for me above which I gain weight and below which I lose it.
> >>
> >>I'm sure, however, that you can recall a number of doctors
> >>disagreeing with your diet on the grounds that a member of the public
> >>couldn't be trusted not to eat 2lbs of ice cream and think they were
> >>following your diet."
> >>
> >>See, there's proof. Just because you have you Ph.D. doesn't mean you
> >>can't succumb to the most ridiculous of arguments.
> >
> > Moreover, Bob Pastorio, who has argued the most against the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach, did not even have a Ph.D. unless one
> > in the culinary arts has been since posthumously conferred upon him.
>
> Howdy, Andrew, Pastorio's only degree was in the level of assclown he
> obtained.
>
> Full fledged imo i.e. FF.A.
>
> MU

Meet Bob Pastorio's palindrome, Peter B.

BP (Bob Pastorio) --> PB (Peter B.)

A mirror image:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af1f2d9f004b20ed?

Just as BP could not comprehend the fact that the ephah did not exist
at the time of Moses and the writing of Deuteronomy for us to remove
the parentheses (for parenthetical) from around what is found at
Exodus 16:36 neither can PB.

36 (An omer is one tenth of an ephah.)

Source:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2016:36&version=NIV

"An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit referring to
Exodus 16:36

Amen.

Link to originating thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b016994e4732e3f6?

Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are

"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

Peter B.

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Regulars recognize him as such, new people pop in occasionally so they need
to know.

Peter B.

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An idiot as well? You replied to Jimmy Alpha. Follow the message id#s
please. You should know better than that.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.
> >
>
> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as
> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
> persons each of you has in his tent.'"

Amen.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?

> Omer = 3.3 liters.

Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
of the Covenant has since been lost to us.

Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
else who have been doing the same.

An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.

Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d740c3a4191d3e1b?

Yes, the right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.

> >
>
> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as
> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
> persons each of you has in his tent.'"

Amen.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?

> Omer = 3.3 liters.

Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
of the Covenant has since been lost to us.

Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer


of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
else who have been doing the same.

An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person


according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.

Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d740c3a4191d3e1b?

Yes, the right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

Peter B. wrote:


> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

Peter B.

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote in message
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> Peter B. wrote:

>> Andrew, in the FLESH, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
>> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount
>> > control.
>> >

WRONG, God ordered what they were to eat and no more. Eat or die. It also
was only for manna, get it?
Nothing else. Now try and find some manna. Oh you can't? Like duh.....

>>
>> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much
>> as
>> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
>> persons each of you has in his tent.'"
>

Well looky here, the LORD COMMANDED, well I'll be.

The rest of the Bible says eat and enjoy, at a celebration? Pig out, at the
breaking of bread loafs and fishes, eat till they were full and clean up
after. Yeah, remember the quotes I gave you months ago? From the Bible that
you try to twist to suit your fraudulent purpose.

I don't care how little you eat, that is your choice, just don't blame it on
God.

Peter B.

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote in message
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Like the snake inhabited by Satan in the Garden of Eden is Andrew B. Chung,
speaking twisted truths, attempting to deceive even the elect if it were
possible.

Game up, Andy, game up.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 3, 2010, 6:40:35 AM8/3/10
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Peter B. wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.
> >
>
> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as
> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
> persons each of you has in his tent.'"

Amen.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?

> Omer = 3.3 liters.

Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
of the Covenant has since been lost to us.

Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
else who have been doing the same.

An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.

Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d740c3a4191d3e1b?

Yes, the right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Virgil

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In article <uhsf56dic1jdc47vl...@4ax.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

Over 90% of the worlds top scientists today are openly non-theist and
anti-creationist, and that percentage is rising. Over 50% of all
scientists today are openly non-theist and and anti-creationist that
percentage is also rising.

Futhermore, the vast majority of serious studies of the relation between
intelligence and creativity on the one hand versus
religiousity/creationism on the other report a definitely negative
correlation between them with the dimmest being, in general, the most
religious/creationist.

Those who are still trying to hawk theism and creationism are losing
market share, particularly among the more intelligent and creative.

Virgil

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In article <rbsf56t1uf9afqocf...@4ax.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

Over 90% of the worlds top scientists today are openly non-theist and

that percentage is rising. Over 50% of all scientists today are openly

non-theist and that percentage is also rising.

Futhermore, the vast majority of serious studies of the relation between

intelligence and creativity on the one hand versus religiousity on the

other report a definitely negative correlation between them with the

dimmest being, in general, the most religious.

Those who are still trying to hawk theism are losing market share,

Nicodemus

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Virgil <Vir...@home.esc> wrote in news:Virgil-
C4FE19.135...@bignews.usenetmonster.com:

Well said

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.
>
> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as
> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
> persons each of you has in his tent.'"

Amen.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?

> Omer = 3.3 liters.

Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
of the Covenant has since been lost to us.

Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
else who have been doing the same.

An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.

Holding to an omer of food per day is right amount control.

Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Freckles wrote:
>
> >> Eat more whole grains for a better diet.
> >>
> >> http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/reap-the-benefits-of-whole-grains
> >
> > Eat the right amount (32 oz) per day for better health and wellbeing.
>
> That is a particularly ignorant/dumb statement.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/443f61cdd0473b11?

Not for the discerning who are familiar with Proverbs 25:16 which

teaches us that eating the right amount (omer) of food is more

2 Peter 2:22

http://WDJW.net/CV

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ad3ab8bf96435b6?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/abf1b9d597143cff?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

11:19-20 and 36:26-27) so that you would be born again of water and

Ken

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Andy Chung is a board-certified Quack

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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MU wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > MU wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
> >>> of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
> >>> by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
> >>> oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
> >>> else who have been doing the same.
> >>>
> >>> An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
> >>> according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
> >>>
> >>> Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, the right amount control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much more

A mirror image:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af1f2d9f004b20ed?

Source:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2016:36&version=NIV

Amen.

Link to originating thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b016994e4732e3f6?

Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are

"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

Larry

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Ken <flak...@aol.com> wrote in news:8deb198f-f9a3-412a-835b-87ceb9f4ae97
@q40g2000prg.googlegroups.com:

> Andy Chung is a board-certified Quack
>
>

What the fuck does this have to do with atheists?


Virgil

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In article <gsdh569h17arvrvfu...@4ax.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
> WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
> calories.

Then a diet of the right amount of pure sugar should be as healthy as
any other diet, and one's intake of vitamins and minerals must also be
totally irrelevant.

Virgil

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In article <gsdh569h17arvrvfu...@4ax.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
> WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
> calories.

Then a diet of the right amount of pure sugar should be as healthy as

Peter B.

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:gsdh569h17arvrvfu...@4ax.com...

Don't know any BP and they aren't me.

Here are the books in order that they were written.
1: Genesis
2: Exodus
3: Leviticus
4: Numbers
5: Deuteronomy

So if Deuteronomy was written later what difference would your statement
make. NONE

> 36 (An omer is one tenth of an ephah.)

>
> Source:
>
> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2016:36&version=NIV
>
> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit referring to
> Exodus 16:36

You just blasphemed The Holy Spirit. Put your house in order, NOW
The Holy Spirit only repeats Gods words, He does not change them nor
originate them.
Read about Ananias and Saphira (sp) If you have time, God is not mocked.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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>> at the time of Moses and the writing of Exodus for us to remove

>> the parentheses (for parenthetical) from around what is found at
>> Exodus 16:36 neither can PB.
>
>Don't know any BP and they aren't me.
>
>Here are the books in order that they were written.
>1: Genesis
>2: Exodus
>3: Leviticus
>4: Numbers
>5: Deuteronomy
>
>So if Deuteronomy was written later what difference would your statement
>make. NONE

It is because Deuteronomy was written after Exodus that the words
which the Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) has guided this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) to write has much weight :-)

>
>> 36 (An omer is one tenth of an ephah.)
>>
>> Source:
>>
>> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2016:36&version=NIV
>>
>> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit referring to
>> Exodus 16:36
>
> You just blasphemed The Holy Spirit.

Not for the discerning who realize from the above that indeed this
gentile Christian disciple really is in the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>

> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.
> >
>
> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as
> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
> persons each of you has in his tent.'"

Amen.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?

> Omer = 3.3 liters.

Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
of the Covenant has since been lost to us.

Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer


of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
else who have been doing the same.

An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.

Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d740c3a4191d3e1b?

Yes, the right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> > Freckles wrote:
>
> >> Eat more whole grains for a better diet.
> >>
> >> http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/reap-the-benefits-of-whole-grains
> >
> > Eat the right amount (32 oz) per day for better health and wellbeing.
>
> That is a particularly ignorant/dumb statement.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/443f61cdd0473b11?

Not for the discerning who are familiar with Proverbs 25:16 which
teaches us that eating the right amount of food is more important for
health and wellbeing than what we are eating.

Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like
you, Peter B.:

2 Peter 2:22

Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:

http://WDJW.net/CV

Here is another's opinion about you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ad3ab8bf96435b6?

Bottom line concerning you, Peter:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/abf1b9d597143cff?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel


11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are

"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/63d9553d4c7b8f7b?

Jimmy Alpha

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sightwalker it would seem makes it up as he goes? Bible
truth doesn't seem to matter to him if it doesn't fit his
diet agenda!
Jimmy Alpha

huge

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What freakin' "Bible truth?" The bible is a crock. Why are you
choad-heads on alt.atheism at all?

--
Not on my time you don't.

Jimmy Alpha

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Hi,
Only because you asked, I mouse on *reply* and let it fly
from where it came. I would never post to you pigheads in
the atheist group if it wasn't in the reply groups.
Jimmy Alpha

huge

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What a sad state of mental health you seem to be in.
It's kind of funny though -- to see you engaging in a
kook fight with other supernaturalists.

The blind leading the dumb......

Jimmy Alpha

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isn't it wonderful! lol
Jimmy

Virgil

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In article <j9ji56h1veedq3qd5...@4ax.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> In a nutshell

That's where Andrew always speaks from.

Peter B.

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote in message
news:rbsf56t1uf9afqocf...@4ax.com...

What is a recipe for? To follow for dietary purposes, yet you lie and say
there is no diet.

You claim an Omer is not a unit of measurement, then say it is 32 OZ.
You are wrong on all counts.

You hide because you have no spiritual sword.

>
> Source:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/443f61cdd0473b11?
>
> Not for the discerning who are familiar with Proverbs 25:16 which
> teaches us that eating the right amount of food is more important for
> health and wellbeing than what we are eating.
>
> Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like
> you, Peter B.:

As I said before, I am a believer, something you cannot understand.
you follow a cult fundementally and yet are trying to create your own. You
have lost, as have they.


>
> 2 Peter 2:22
>
> Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:
>

He does NOT need your approval.

Peter B.

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"Jimmy Alpha" <jimmy...@operamail.com> wrote in message
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You are absolutely right, and he has overstepped his boundaries.

Peter B.

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"huge" <hu...@operamail.com> wrote in message
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> On 08/04/2010 08:36 AM, Jimmy Alpha wrote:

> What freakin' "Bible truth?" The bible is a crock. Why are you
> choad-heads on alt.atheism at all?
>

Thank Dr. Chung for that, and enjoy or not.

Jimmy Alpha

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They must enjoy reading sightwalker's rants, or they would
use filters to remove the extra groups which show them the
truth when people correct charlie's errors. When they read
the Bible groups we know the Holy Spirit is still working on
'em, and they can't run from Him.

Perhaps when charlie is done searching for the truth he'll
stop going to alt.atheism for answers from them?
Jimmy Alpha

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MU wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> > MU wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
>>> >>> of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
>>> >>> by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating
>>> >>> 32
>>> >>> oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
>>> >>> else who have been doing the same.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
>>> >>> according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yes, the right amount control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much more

>>> >>> sophisticated and smarter:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
>>> >>
>>> >>"Yes, I would agree, and as I've posted in the past, I've discovered
>>> >>by experiment that with my typical kind of diet, 2lbs is about the
>>> >>threshold for me above which I gain weight and below which I lose it.
>>> >>
>>> >>I'm sure, however, that you can recall a number of doctors
>>> >>disagreeing with your diet on the grounds that a member of the public
>>> >>couldn't be trusted not to eat 2lbs of ice cream and think they were
>>> >>following your diet."
>>> >>
>>> >>See, there's proof. Just because you have you Ph.D. doesn't mean you
>>> >>can't succumb to the most ridiculous of arguments.
>>> >
>>> > Moreover, Bob Pastorio, who has argued the most against the
>>> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach, did not even have a Ph.D. unless one
>>> > in the culinary arts has been since posthumously conferred upon him.
>>>
>>> Howdy, Andrew, Pastorio's only degree was in the level of assclown he
>>> obtained.
>>>
>>> Full fledged imo i.e. FF.A.
>>>
>>> MU
>>
>> Meet Bob Pastorio's palindrome, Peter B.
>>
>> BP (Bob Pastorio) --> PB (Peter B.)
>>
>> A mirror image:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af1f2d9f004b20ed?
>>
>> Just as BP could not comprehend the fact that the ephah did not exist
>> at the time of Moses and the writing of Exodus for us to remove

>> the parentheses (for parenthetical) from around what is found at
>> Exodus 16:36 neither can PB.
>
>Don't know any BP and they aren't me.
>
>Here are the books in order that they were written.
>1: Genesis
>2: Exodus
>3: Leviticus
>4: Numbers
>5: Deuteronomy
>
>So if Deuteronomy was written later what difference would your statement
>make. NONE

It is because Deuteronomy was written after Exodus that the words


which the Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) has guided this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) to write has much weight :-)

>


>> 36 (An omer is one tenth of an ephah.)
>>
>> Source:
>>
>> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2016:36&version=NIV
>>
>> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit referring to
>> Exodus 16:36
>
> You just blasphemed The Holy Spirit.

Not for the discerning who realize from the above that indeed this


gentile Christian disciple really is in the Holy Spirit:

http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit

Amen.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?

> Omer = 3.3 liters.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d740c3a4191d3e1b?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

> > Eat the right amount (32 oz) per day for better health and wellbeing.
>
> That is a particularly ignorant/dumb statement.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/443f61cdd0473b11?

Not for the discerning who are familiar with Proverbs 25:16 which
teaches us that eating the right amount of food is more important for
health and wellbeing than what we are eating.

Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like
you, Peter B.:

2 Peter 2:22

Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:

http://WDJW.net/CV

panam...@hotmail.com

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On Aug 4, 9:53 am, Jimmy Alpha <jimmy_al...@operamail.com> wrote:
> huge wrote:
> > On 08/04/2010 08:36 AM, Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> >> Peter B. wrote:
> >>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote in message
> >>>news:gsdh569h17arvrvfu...@4ax.com...
> >>>> MU wrote:
> >>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>>> > MU wrote:
> >>>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >>>>> >>> Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an
> >>>>> omer
> >>>>> >>> of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as
> >>>>> evident
> >>>>> >>> by this physician's own life (http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc) of

> >>>>> eating >>> 32
> >>>>> >>> oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
> >>>>> >>> else who have been doing the same.
>
> >>>>> >>> An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every
> >>>>> person
> >>>>> >>> according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
>
> >>>>> >>> Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control.
>
> >>>>> >>> Yes, the right amount control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
> >>>>> more
> >>>>> >>> sophisticated and smarter:
>
> >>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef744...

>
> >>>>> >>"Yes, I would agree, and as I've posted in the past, I've discovered
> >>>>> >>by experiment that with my typical kind of diet, 2lbs is about the
> >>>>> >>threshold for me above which I gain weight and below which I lose
> >>>>> it.
>
> >>>>> >>I'm sure, however, that you can recall a number of doctors
> >>>>> >>disagreeing with your diet on the grounds that a member of the
> >>>>> public
> >>>>> >>couldn't be trusted not to eat 2lbs of ice cream and think they were
> >>>>> >>following your diet."
>
> >>>>> >>See, there's proof. Just because you have you Ph.D. doesn't mean you
> >>>>> >>can't succumb to the most ridiculous of arguments.
>
> >>>>> > Moreover, Bob Pastorio, who has argued the most against the
> >>>>> >http://WDJW.net/2PDOMERApproach, did not even have a Ph.D. unless

Then edit the reply groups, moron. All you do when you fail to do so
is demonstrate that many Christians have no buisiness being around a
fucking computer in the first place.

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain

Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html

Father Haskell

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On Aug 4, 10:43 pm, Jimmy Alpha <jimmy_al...@operamail.com> wrote:
> Peter B. wrote:
> > "huge" <h...@operamail.com> wrote in message

> >news:jJ-dnZm8h4ka88TR...@earthlink.com...
> >> On 08/04/2010 08:36 AM, Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>
> >> What freakin' "Bible truth?"  The bible is a crock.  Why are you
> >> choad-heads on alt.atheism at all?
>
> > Thank Dr. Chung for that, and enjoy or not.
>
> They must enjoy reading sightwalker's rants, or they would
> use filters to remove the extra groups which show them the
> truth when people correct charlie's errors. When they read
> the Bible groups we know the Holy Spirit is still working on
> 'em, and they can't run from Him.

Nah, they're just trying to find the dirty parts.

Virgil

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Aug 4, 2010, 11:52:32 PM8/4/10
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In article
<b062fbd9-431e-4d35...@v15g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> In a nutshell HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than


> WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
> calories.

What is the ideal portion if one is eating only sawdust?

Peter B.

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<panam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:76ef3e68-fdab-48bf...@g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

====================================================
So you who are not a Christian are too stupid to use a KF?

Back away from your computer.

Jimmy Alpha

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sightwalker with a phd said:
>
>> Omer = 3.3 liters.
>
> Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
> sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
> future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
> of the Covenant has since been lost to us.
>
> Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
> of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
> by this physician's own life

So charlie, you now admit your diet/approach is not based on
the Bible but your own misunderstandings and observations.
Like I've said, you make it all up as you go!
Jimmy "We can see the Truth is not in you" Alpha


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 5, 2010, 6:25:50 AM8/5/10
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Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MU wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> > MU wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
>>> >>> of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/49a31d5cd1d9c361?

>
>> 36 (An omer is one tenth of an ephah.)
>>
>> Source:
>>
>> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2016:36&version=NIV
>>
>> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit referring to
>> Exodus 16:36
>
> You just blasphemed The Holy Spirit.

Not for the discerning who realize from the above that indeed this
gentile Christian disciple really is in the Holy Spirit:

http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit

Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.
> >
>
> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as
> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
> persons each of you has in his tent.'"

Amen.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?

> Omer = 3.3 liters.

Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
of the Covenant has since been lost to us.

Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident

Virgil

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Aug 5, 2010, 3:51:36 PM8/5/10
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In article <gsdh569h17arvrvfu...@4ax.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
> WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
> calories.

Then a diet of the right amount of pure fat, or pure sugar should be as

Ken

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Aug 5, 2010, 8:06:21 PM8/5/10
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On Aug 5, 12:51 pm, Virgil <Vir...@home.esc> wrote:

>  "Andy Chung Shit 4 Brains with his MD/PhD"
Chung is an raving lunatic!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 6, 2010, 12:33:05 AM8/6/10
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Ken wrote in part:
>
> Schizophrenia can set in at any time but it's usual shows up in early
> adulthood.
>
> I'm predisposed due to my biological maw spending her adult life in a
> hospital as a paranoid schizophrenic before passing in '66

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/40a1fbe0d8ff812a?

Only the truth, Who is Jesus, can keep you from becoming more
delusional like your mom was.

There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
psychopathology:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3f56b038f17f681b?

Bottom line concerning you, Ken:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e444a7f27fc8ae79?

Truth is reality ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/459c9c0ed3b24ca2?

... despite your efforts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3160f9fd903ab7c2?

And, so this bona-fide physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) freely
chooses to continue to pray for you as outlined per the amazing
Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation earlier:

May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, Ken, a new heart and a


new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born

again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by Him so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are

"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat….but


not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few things,
as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than


WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on


more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

Haskell the Scrivener

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Aug 6, 2010, 9:18:51 PM8/6/10
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On Aug 6, 12:33 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> Ken wrote in part:
>
>
>
> > Schizophrenia can set in at any time but it's usual shows up in early
> > adulthood.
>
> > I'm predisposed due to my biological maw spending her adult life in a
> > hospital as a paranoid schizophrenic before passing in '66
>
> Source:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/40a1fbe0d8ff812a?
>
> Only the truth, Who is Jesus, can keep you from becoming more
> delusional like your mom was.

Jesus would be locked up in a padded cell were he alive
today.

Haskell the Scrivener

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Aug 6, 2010, 9:20:11 PM8/6/10
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On Aug 4, 11:52 pm, Virgil <Vir...@home.esc> wrote:
> In article
> <b062fbd9-431e-4d35-a4f7-b1c586bf8...@v15g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,

Pine? Oak? Maple? Oleander?

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Aug 7, 2010, 12:12:04 AM8/7/10
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Haskell the Scrivener wrote:

> On Aug 6, 12:33 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
> wrote:
> > Ken wrote in part:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Schizophrenia can set in at any time but it's usual shows up in early
> > > adulthood.
> >
> > > I'm predisposed due to my biological maw spending her adult life in a
> > > hospital as a paranoid schizophrenic before passing in '66
> >
> > Source:
> >
> > >

> > Only the truth, Who is Jesus, can keep you from becoming more
> > delusional like your mom was.
>
> Jesus would be locked up in a padded cell were he alive
> today.

Ain't that the Truth!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 7, 2010, 1:20:06 AM8/7/10
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > >> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/156223dbb8b41875?
> > >
> > > REV 19:10!!!
> >
> > Nothing specifically about Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole,
> > being able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using her mouth there at
> > the cited Scripture.
>
> Everything about why it is Blasphemy to do so!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wrong.

What is described at Revelation 19:10 is how it would be wrong to fall
at the feet of an angel to worship an angel, instead of worshiping the
LORD Himself, Who is Jesus.

Sad to learn yet again that you still cannot publicly say "Jesus is
LORD" using your mouth.

This does mean you need to be born-again (John 3:3 & 5) else you would
not be saved according to what is written at Romans 10:9.

Truly there is only one GOD:

http://WDJW.net/YHWH

GOD has a mind (Father), a heart (Son), and a soul (Holy Spirit) with
the love of GOD residing in His heart, Who is our risen LORD Jesus
'Christ' of Nazareth (Romans 8:39). It is the mind of GOD Who knows
(Matthew 24:36) the appointed time when His heart will return in the
flesh for His disciples to physically recognize (Luke 24:32) Him in
order to meet up with Him in the air at the appointed place (Luke
17:37):

http://WDJW.net/Cloud

GOD is love (1 John 4:16) because He has made up His mind (Father) to
allow His heart (Son) to reign as "KING of kings and LORD of lords"
while continuing to indwell within us in His spirit (Holy Spirit)
until the end of the world (Matthew 28:17-20)

Your not being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth
convinces this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) to pray for you


as outlined per the amazing Facebook spectacle at
http://WDJW.net/Salvation earlier:

May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, Lady Azure, a new

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few


things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist

and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Aug 7, 2010, 3:18:11 AM8/7/10
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

> Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > > REV 19:10!!!
> > >
> > > Nothing specifically about Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole,
> > > being able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using her mouth there at
> > > the cited Scripture.
> >
> > Everything about why it is Blasphemy to do so!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Wrong.
>

Rev 19:10 you are "WRONG"!!!!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 7, 2010, 4:28:03 AM8/7/10
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > >> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/156223dbb8b41875?

> > >
> > > REV 19:10!!!
> >
> > Nothing specifically about Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole,
> > being able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using her mouth there at
> > the cited Scripture.
>
> Everything about why it is Blasphemy to do so!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wrong.

What is described at Revelation 19:10 is how it would be wrong to fall

MU

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Aug 7, 2010, 12:33:37 PM8/7/10
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In your case, several tons.

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Aug 7, 2010, 10:55:11 PM8/7/10
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

> Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > > REV 19:10!!!
> > >
> > > Nothing specifically about Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole,
> > > being able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using her mouth there at
> > > the cited Scripture.
> >
> > Everything about why it is Blasphemy to do so!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Wrong.

No YOU are!
There is but GOD, thou shall Worship no OTHER!
Jesus prayed to GOD!
You prey to Jesus!
I, Bow to No MAN!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 8, 2010, 12:49:12 AM8/8/10
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > >> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/156223dbb8b41875?

> > >
> > > REV 19:10!!!
> >
> > Nothing specifically about Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole,
> > being able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using her mouth there at
> > the cited Scripture.
>
> Everything about why it is Blasphemy to do so!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wrong.

What is described at Revelation 19:10 is how it would be wrong to fall

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Aug 9, 2010, 1:05:15 AM8/9/10
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Liar!!

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

> Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > > REV 19:10!!!
> > >
> > > Nothing specifically about Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole,
> > > being able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using her mouth there at
> > > the cited Scripture.
> >
> > Everything about why it is Blasphemy to do so!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Wrong.
>
> What is described at Revelation 19:10 is how it would be wrong to fall
> at the feet of an angel to worship an angel,

You go prey to some "MAN"!
I will continue to follow my "GOD", and NO OTHER!
ESPECIALLY some MAN!

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