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∅baMa∅ Tse Dung

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Sep 16, 2010, 4:52:25 PM9/16/10
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If everyone would sent at least $1 at http://christine2010.com

PayPal available!

John Smith

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On 9/16/2010 1:52 PM, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
> If everyone would sent at least $1 at http://christine2010.com
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> PayPal available!

What I would like to see is each city and town propose a candidate for a
state public servant office. These individuals then have a "run off" on
a county level. And, those individuals, one from each county, are
placed on the state ballot and the states citizens vote.

Same would be done with federal public servant offices, only an
individual from each state would hit the federal ballot.

Tax dollars could be used, it would be immensely cheaper than the way it
is done now and should be much more honest and harder for the shadow
government to be able to only have their candidates on the ballots ...

If not the above system, then a similar one ... but something needs to
be done. The way it is now, we are certain to be limited to only voting
for chosen crooks which serve their masters, and those master are NOT
the American people ...

Regards,
JS

Kevin Cunningham

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Sep 16, 2010, 5:07:54 PM9/16/10
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On Sep 16, 5:00 pm, John Smith <assemblywiz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/16/2010 1:52 PM, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
>
> > If everyone would sent at least $1 athttp://christine2010.com

Sounds just like the last meeting of the White Citizens Council. This
is what the tea baggers want, they would love to return to the days
when the white man ran this country and then that commie Dr. King came
along. Now for the love of mercy, we have an African-American
president! And he wants to stop our war machine! What the heck
happened?

It was so much better when women were chained to their beds.......

John Smith

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Sep 16, 2010, 5:19:11 PM9/16/10
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On 9/16/2010 2:07 PM, Kevin Cunningham wrote:

>...


> Sounds just like the last meeting of the White Citizens Council. This
> is what the tea baggers want, they would love to return to the days
> when the white man ran this country and then that commie Dr. King came
> along. Now for the love of mercy, we have an African-American
> president! And he wants to stop our war machine! What the heck
> happened?
>
> It was so much better when women were chained to their beds.......

Dude, you have bad mental problems. You might be a danger to yourself
and/or others. You need to get with a shrink and work on this ...

With only your best interest at heart,
JS

dxAce

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Kevin Cunningham wrote:

> On Sep 16, 5:00Â pm, John Smith <assemblywiz...@gmail.com> wrote:


> > On 9/16/2010 1:52 PM, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
> >
> > > If everyone would sent at least $1 athttp://christine2010.com
> >
> > > PayPal available!
> >
> > What I would like to see is each city and town propose a candidate for a

> > state public servant office. Â These individuals then have a "run off" on
> > a county level. Â And, those individuals, one from each county, are


> > placed on the state ballot and the states citizens vote.
> >
> > Same would be done with federal public servant offices, only an
> > individual from each state would hit the federal ballot.
> >
> > Tax dollars could be used, it would be immensely cheaper than the way it
> > is done now and should be much more honest and harder for the shadow
> > government to be able to only have their candidates on the ballots ...
> >
> > If not the above system, then a similar one ... but something needs to

> > be done. Â The way it is now, we are certain to be limited to only voting


> > for chosen crooks which serve their masters, and those master are NOT
> > the American people ...
> >
> > Regards,
> > JS
>
> Sounds just like the last meeting of the White Citizens Council. This
> is what the tea baggers want, they would love to return to the days
> when the white man ran this country and then that commie Dr. King came
> along.

Dr. King was a Republican, as was his father.


Brenda Ann

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Sep 16, 2010, 5:25:36 PM9/16/10
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"John Smith" <assembl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Don't know about you... but I see a tongue firmly embedded in cheek when I
read that post..


Ron

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Sep 16, 2010, 5:26:44 PM9/16/10
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On Sep 16, 3:52 pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> PayPal available!
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But....but....but she doesn't want me to play with my pee-pee !

RO

John Smith

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Sep 16, 2010, 5:27:24 PM9/16/10
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On 9/16/2010 2:24 PM, dxAce wrote:

> ...


> Dr. King was a Republican, as was his father.
>
>

He suffers from the mental disorder which causes homosexuality ...
probably will never get treatment in his/her/its' lifetime ... sorry,
but probably nothing which can be done ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith

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Sep 16, 2010, 5:29:10 PM9/16/10
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On 9/16/2010 2:26 PM, Ron wrote:

> .
> .
> But....but....but she doesn't want me to play with my pee-pee !
>
> RO

Read it again, it is P-A-Y-P-A-L and NOT P-L-A-Y-P-A-L ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

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dave

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Sep 16, 2010, 7:04:51 PM9/16/10
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dxAce wrote:

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> Dr. King was a Republican, as was his father.
>
>

MLK Jr. found both political parties lacking. His father WAS a
Republican, but supported JFK as the Civil Rights Movement started
heating up.

bpnjensen

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Sep 16, 2010, 6:14:12 PM9/16/10
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> Dr. King was a Republican, as was his father.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

It was a very different party back then...as were the Dems.

Lamont Cranston

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Sep 16, 2010, 6:53:12 PM9/16/10
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On 9/16/2010 1:52 PM, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:

There's no such thing as liberal fascism, numbnuts.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Nobody cares about you playing with your pee pee.
cuhulin

John Smith

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On 9/16/2010 3:53 PM, cuh...@webtv.net wrote:
> Nobody cares about you playing with your pee pee.
> cuhulin
>

Hey! Leave it and its' vagina alone!

Regards,
JS

Brenda Ann

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On 9/16/2010 3:53 PM, cuh...@webtv.net wrote:
> Nobody cares about you playing with your pee pee.
> cuhulin
>

Christine O'Donnell does.


cuh...@webtv.net

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Sep 16, 2010, 7:38:08 PM9/16/10
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Christine O'Donnell is one of my Heros.

John King, USA program on CNN TV.
Somebody was interviewing that democrap B HO Butt Kisser in
Braddock,Pennsylvania.That democrap woman said she voted for B HO.

More and more people in America are living on welfare, food stamps, food
pantries, more and more people in America are at, or below the poverty
level.More and more people in America have no jobs.

She said she voted for B HO, she ought to be happy now.She is not
happy at all.
cuhulin

John Smith

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Sep 16, 2010, 7:41:47 PM9/16/10
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On 9/16/2010 4:17 PM, Brenda Ann wrote:

> ...
> Christine O'Donnell does.
>
>

OK. I'll give ya' that.

But, in the dark, late at night, when no one is around ... I'll bet she
plays with hers!!! Ya' wanna' bet? ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

John Smith

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Sep 16, 2010, 7:44:09 PM9/16/10
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And, as sad as this sounds, I am willing to bet, some, in the future,
will look back at the facts you state today, and today itself, and wish
things were that good! This is a loooong downhill slope, but we are
accelerating!

Regards,
JS

Afterparty

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"John Smith" <assembl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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There's no hope for the "me, me, me" repubs.

Nickname unavailable

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On Sep 16, 3:52 pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> PayPal available!

she respects hitler. she would never lie to the man. so we know that
you are projecting again.


The aristocrats and gentlemen of the Right who made up the majority of
Hitler's cabinet hated the concept of democracy even more than the
Nazis did, All over Germany, thugs in brown shirts took possession of
the streets and roughed up Communists, socialists, and Jews; they
chased socialist mayors and officials out of government buildings

http://www.buy.com/prod/hitler-and-his-secret-partners/q/loc/106/30426378.html

Chapter 1: Financing the 1933 Elections
On the cold winter weekend of January 28, 1933, Germany was officially
without a government. Chancellor Kurt von Schleicher and his cabinet
had resigned on Saturday afternoon, and eighty-six-year-old President
von Hindenburg had not yet appointed a new chancellor. A nervous
tension spread over Berlin. Everyone waited for news; most felt
Germany was at an historic turning point.
Who would be the next chancellor? Hitler - the leader of the largest
party, the Nazis, who pledged to destroy democracy? Papen - the
aristocratic horseman who had been chancellor before Schleicher, but
who had no popular following? Perhaps Schleicher again, if he could
persuade the Social Democrats, the second largest political party in
the country, to join him in a coalition? Governing Germany in the
middle of an economic depression with nine million unemployed was not
an enviable task. The country had just had three different chancellors
in rapid succession. By tradition, the leader of the largest party was
usually appointed chancellor. But the Nazis had been the largest party
for over a year, and so far intrigues and political maneuvering had
succeeded in keeping Hitler out of power. Everyone guessed what a
Hitler government would mean. He had not kept his militarism, anti-
Semitism, and dictatorial ambitions a secret.
Political intrigues were so numerous that weekend that no one really
knew what was going on. Sensational rumors were being spread
throughout the city. Some said an army coup was imminent, that
Schleicher and the generals were about to abduct President von
Hindenburg and declare martial law. There were also rumors of an armed
Nazi uprising and a general strike by the socialist workers.
Hitler and Hermann Goering, the second most powerful man in the Nazi
party, stayed up all night on Sunday, January 29, trying to figure out
what Hindenburg might do. It was not until after 10 A.M. on Monday
that Hitler received a summons to the president's office. Even at that
point, the Nazis were not certain whether Hitler would be appointed
chancellor or Hindenburg would ask him to serve as vice-chancellor.
Across the street from the Chancellery, in the Kaiserhof Hotel,
Hitler's lieutenants were waiting, unsure of what was going on.
Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda chief, said:

In the street the crowd stands waiting between the Kaiserhof and the
Chancellery. We are torn between doubt, hope, joy and despair. We have
been deceived too often to be able, wholeheartedly, to believe in the
great miracle. [S.A.] Chief of Staff Roehm stands at the window (with
binoculars) watching the door of the Chancellery from which the
Fuehrer [the leader, Hitler] must emerge. We shall be able to judge by
his face if the interview was a success. Torturing hours of waiting.
At last, a car draws up in front of the entrance. The crowd cheers.
They seem to feel that a great change is taking place....
A few moments later, he is with us. He says nothing. His eyes are full
of tears. It has come! The Fuehrer is appointed Chancellor. He has
already been sworn in by the President of the Reich. All of us are
dumb with emotion. Everyone clasps the Fuehrer's hand....Outside the
Kaiserhof, the masses are in a wild uproar....The thousands soon
become tens of thousands. Endless streams of people flood the
Wilhelmstrasse. We set to work...at once.
Hitler's victory was not a complete one by any means. He had been
appointed chancellor in a coalition government. Papen was to be his
vice-chancellor, and all the powerful cabinet posts were held by
Papen's conservative allies, rather than the Nazis. But at the moment,
Hitler's followers weren't worried about the details; for them the
only thing that mattered was that Hitler was chancellor. They had come
to power! All day, crowds gathered in the square outside the Kaiserhof
Hotel and the Chancellery.
At dusk Nazi storm troopers in their brown uniforms gathered in the
Tiergarten park, along with men of the Stahlhelm, an
ultranationalistic veterans' organization, for a torchlight victory
parade through the center of Berlin. As soon as it was dark, they came
marching by the thousands through the Brandenburg Gate, carrying
swastika flags and the black, white, and red flags of the German
empire. Bands marched between the units, beating their big drums as
the men sang old German military songs. But as each band came to the
Pariser Platz, where the French embassy was located, they stopped
whatever they were playing and, with an introductory roll of drums,
broke into the tune of the challenging war song "Victorious We Will
Crush the French."
The torches carried by the marchers glowed hypnotically in the
darkness. To foreign witnesses, it was a frightening sight. "The river
of fire flowed past the French Embassy," Ambassador François-Poncet
wrote, "whence, with heavy heart and filled with foreboding, I watched
this luminous wake." Liberal Germans found it an "ominous sight." It
was, wrote one German reporter, "a night of deadly menace, a nightmare
in...blazing torches."
As the marchers came by the Chancellery, there were tumultuous cheers
for Hitler, who stood in an open window saluting them. He was so
excited that night, he could hardly stand still. He was raising his
arm up and down heiling, smiling, and laughing so much, his eyes
filled with tears. "It was an extraordinary experience," recalled
Papen, who was standing behind Hitler. "The endless repetition of the
triumphal cry: 'Heil, Heil, Sieg Heil!' rang in my ears like a
tocsin." When Hitler turned to speak with Papen, his voice choked with
emotion. "What an immense task we have set for ourselves, Herr von
Papen - we must never part until our work is accomplished." Hitler and
Papen were much closer allies than anyone at the time imagined.
It was after midnight when the parade ended. Being too excited to
sleep, Hitler, Goering, Goebbels, and a few other Nazis sat up talking
for hours. They could hardly believe it had actually happened: they
were in the Chancellery at last. That evening, Hitler said to
Goebbels, "No one gets me out of here alive." It was one of the few
promises he kept.
On the morning of January 31, Hitler's storm troopers gave the German
people a glimpse of what Nazi rule would be like. All over Germany,
thugs in brown shirts took possession of the streets and roughed up
Communists, socialists, and Jews; they chased socialist mayors and
officials out of government buildings and even broke into the private
homes of their political enemies. When people complained to Papen, he
laughed. "Let the storm troopers have their fling." Among his friends
at the Herrenklub, an exclusive gentlemens club, he boasted: "We've
hired Hitler." To a skeptic he replied: "What do you want? I have
Hindenburg's confidence. Within two months we will have pushed Hitler
so far in the corner that he'll squeak."
The facts seemed to support Papen's optimism. Not only did Papen have
Hindenburg"s confidence, but in fact the old president had promised
never to receive Hitler unless he was accompanied by his vice-
chancellor. Papen also held the important post of minister-president
of Prussia, Germany's largest and most powerful state. From the
composition of the cabinet, it seemed all the real power was in the
hands of the conservatives: the aristocratic General von Blomberg was
minister of defense, Baron von Neurath, a career diplomat, was foreign
minister, and the old archreactionary Hugenberg was both minister of
economics and minister of agriculture. The Nazis were outnumbered six
to two.
The two Nazis in the cabinet, Wilhelm Frick and Goering, held posts
that were thought to be insignificant. Frick was minister of the
interior, but he did not control the police, which in Germany was
under the jurisdiction of the individual state governments. Goering
was made minister without portfolio, but with the promise that he
would be minister of aviation as soon as Germany had an air force. He
was also named minister of the interior of Prussia, an office that did
not receive much notice by the public but did control the Prussian
police.
The aristocrats and gentlemen of the Right who made up the majority of
Hitler's cabinet hated the concept of democracy even more than the
Nazis did. These men belonged to the old ruling class of the kaiser's
Germany. They wanted to regain their old position of supremacy, lost
in 1918. They wanted to restore the monarchy, suppress the socialist
unions, avenge the loss of World War I, and make Germany the dominant
power in Europe. It was obvious why such reactionary nationalists
helped put Hitler in power: their goals and his were very similar.
Few people knew the full extent of Papen's collaboration with Hitler.
Historians have said he "did more than anyone else outside the Nazi
party to help Hitler to power." Papen helped Hitler because he was
trying to control him and use the Nazis for his own aims.
Papen was a handsome aristocratic-looking man with distinguished gray
hair and an officer's mustache. From an impoverished family of the
Westphalian nobility, he became a General Staff officer, a skillful
horseman, and a man of great charm. After a successful marriage to the
daughter of a wealthy Saar industrialist, he bought a large block of
shares in the Center party's newspaper, Germania. For a short time in
1932, Papen was chancellor, but his government had no popular support.
Papen believed it would be rather easy for an aristocratic officer
like himself to manipulate a former corporal, like Hitler, and thus be
able to use the Nazi's mass following to accomplish the aims of the
upper-class conservative nationalists.
Hitler immediately began to outmaneuver his conservative colleagues.
He reported to the cabinet that the Center party was making impossible
demands and could not be counted on to form a coalition with the Nazis
and the Nationalists that would have a majority in the Reichstag.
Because of this situation, Hitler argued he would have to call for new
elections. The only "demand" the Center party made was that Hitler
promise to govern constitutionally, but none of the other members of
the cabinet bothered to check Hitler's statement. They agreed to new
elections on the condition that Hitler promise that the composition of
the cabinet would not change regardless of the outcome of the voting.
New elections would provide Hitler with a chance to improve on the
poor results the Nazis had received at the polls the past November. If
the Nazis won a clear majority in the elections, they might be able to
get rid of their coalition partners. Hitler had every reason to
believe the election campaign would be a big success. The entire
machinery of government, including the radio, was now under Nazi
control and could be used for campaigning. The party had been flooded
with new applicants for membership since he had become chancellor. In
the cabinet meeting on February 2, Hitler discussed his preparations
for the elections. Wilhelm Frick, the Nazi minister of the interior,
proposed that the government set aside a million marks for the
election campaign. Count von Schwerin von Krosigk, the minister of
finance, rejected this suggestion. Hitler did not force the issue. He
would have to get the money elsewhere.
The theme of the Nazi election campaign was to be the fight against
communism. Hitler opened the attack in a late-night radio broadcast to
the nation on February 1. He blamed the hard times Germany had gone
through since 1918 on the Social Democrats, which had been the largest
party in the Reichstag during most of those years. The Social
Democrats, he reminded his listeners, were actually a Marxist party.
"Fourteen years of Marxism," he said, "have ruined Germany; one year
of bolshevism [communism] would destroy her. The richest and fairest
territories of the world would be turned into a smoking heap of ruins.
Even the sufferings of the last decade and a half could not be
compared to the misery of a Europe in the heart of which the red flag
of destruction has been hoisted." He went on to promise to put the
unemployed back to work and save the peasants from bankruptcy.

On his fourth day in office, just after opening the election
campaign, Hitler took time off to attend a very important dinner. He
had been invited to the home of General von Hammerstein, chief of
staff of the army, to meet the leading officers of the army and navy.
In a speech that lasted almost two hours, Hitler explained his plans
for rebuilding German military power.
The generals were the real power in Germany during the Weimar period.
After World War II, many Germans tried to cover up the role certain
members of the Officer Corps had played in helping to put Hitler in
power. Many historians naively accepted this view, but the real story
is quite different. Traditionally, the German Army ruled from behind
the scenes and had the final "power to veto" any important issue.
After the loss of World War I, the Versailles Treaty severely
restricted the size of the German Army. The only way the generals
could maintain mass training and develop new weapons was to finance
private paramilitary units, like the Free Corps, with secret army
funds.
Hitler not only began his career as an army agent, but even in the
1930s he was supported by a powerful faction in the army. Over several
years, General von Schleicher, who was in charge of a secret informal
political department of the army, funneled over ten million marks to
Hitler. Why? Many military officers wanted an authoritarian government
that could unify the nation. The people needed to be infused with a
new spirit of patriotism because powerful interests were planning a
war of revenge against the Allies. Naturally there was a division of
opinion among the generals as to how much power to give Hitler.
Hindenburg originally had strong reservations about appointing a man
from a lower-class background, like Hitler, chancellor. However, the
aggressive action the Nazis took against Communists was admired by
Hindenburg, and his relationship with Hitler rapidly improved.
One day, Hindenburg summoned Hitler when Papen was away from Berlin.
Hitler informed the president that Papen was out of town and reminded
him of the rule he (Hindenburg) had made, that the chancellor could
visit him only when accompanied by the vice-chancellor. "The old
gentleman [Hindenburg]," said Hitler, "replied that he wished to see
me alone, and that in the future the presence of Papen could be
regarded as unnecessary. Within three weeks, he had progressed so far
that his attitude towards me became affectionate and paternal. Talking
of the elections fixed for the 3rd of March, he said, 'What are we
going to do if you fail to get a majority? We shall have the same
difficulties all over again.'"
At the beginning of the election campaign, Hitler and Papen persuaded
old President von Hindenburg to sign an emergency decree to protect
law and order. The decree gave Nazi officials the right to prohibit
public meetings. Newspapers could be suppressed if they "incited"
civil disobedience or published "false" reports.
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John Smith

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On 9/16/2010 5:12 PM, Afterparty wrote:

> ...


> There's no hope for the "me, me, me" repubs.
>
>
>

Republi-crats and demo-cans, people keep attempting to explain the stark
differences to me. Alas, I am too dense to be able to see them ... I
have looked back at the past decades, since Kennedy, and all my "vision"
tells me is that though both parties the same course has been plotted
and sailed ...

Regards,
JS

BDK

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Sep 16, 2010, 8:52:53 PM9/16/10
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In article <4b25fed6-b663-4343-8f94-03af9db20641
@g18g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, 0bama0....@gmail.com says...

> If everyone would sent at least $1 at http://christine2010.com
>
> PayPal available!
>

Yeah sure, right after I send a buck to her male counterpart, the "Anti-
masturbation guy".

She's a full blown loon.
--
BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!

BDK

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In article <i6u747$gfi$9...@news.datemas.de>, Lamont....@TheShadow.com
says...

> On 9/16/2010 1:52 PM, â=3F=3FbaMaâ=3F=3F Tse Dung wrote:
>
> There's no such thing as liberal fascism, numbnuts.
>

That doesn't really matter, doesn't Sarah Palin make up new words all
the time? Her fans seem to like it.

cuh...@webtv.net

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http://www.libertypost.org
Christine O'Donnell !!MONEYBOMB!!
cuhulin

RHF

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Sep 17, 2010, 7:16:32 AM9/17/10
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On Sep 16, 3:53 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
- Nobody cares about you playing with your pee pee.
- cuhulin

Cuhulin - You Call It 'pee pee' {pee wee}

If'n you was in Texas you'd call it "Big John" ! ;;-}}
.

John Smith

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And, the women? Do the women call "it" Large Hilda? ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

RHF

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Sep 17, 2010, 7:35:11 AM9/17/10
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On Sep 16, 4:38 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> Christine O'Donnell is one of my Heros.
>
> John King, USA program on CNN TV.
> Somebody was interviewing that democrap B     HO Butt Kisser in
> Braddock,Pennsylvania.That democrap woman said she voted for B     HO.
>
- More and more people in America are living on welfare, food stamps,
food
- pantries, more and more people in America are at, or below the
poverty
- level.More and more people in America have no jobs.

Yes under the good leadership of Prez Obama
more people than every are now living on US
Federal Government Aid
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2010-09-16-poverty-rate-income-numbers_N.htm

-pbhn- WE LOVE YOU PREZ OBAMA !
* Keep Send Us That Obama-Aid-Money
-but- could you make it a little more . . .

Yes under the good leadership of Prez Obama
more people than every are now Un-Employed
http://beta.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2010/sep/16/financial-411-unemployment-numbers-and-us-poverty-rate/

-pbhn- WE LOVE YOU PREZ OBAMA !
* Keep Send Us That Obama-Unemployment-Money
-but- could you make the check a little bigger . . .


> She said she voted for B       HO, she ought to be happy now.She is not
> happy at all.
> cuhulin

Yes under the good leadership of Prez Obama
more people than every are now living on US
Federal Government Aide

John Smith

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Sep 17, 2010, 7:44:02 AM9/17/10
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Actually, since the 1970's, each new president has seen
welfare/food-stamps increase ... through republi-crats and demo-cans the
course has been unfaltering ... why get so upset now?

The president who replaces obama, be him/her republi-crat or demo-can,
will only see to further increases, wanna' bet?

Regards,
JS

RHF

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On Sep 16, 3:53 pm, Lamont Cranston <Lamont.Crans...@TheShadow.com>
wrote:

> On 9/16/2010 1:52 PM, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:

- There's no such thing as liberal fascism, numbnuts.

"LC" said the "There's no such thing as . . ." words.
{ hey i thought that only 'numbnuts' said that }
.
¡ LET THERE BE A REPLY !
.
"Liberal-Fascism" with over 6-Million 'Hits' :
Liberal-Fascism is a Virtual Reality in the 21st Century
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6a0dba38cddc6d10
.
Try to use 1930s Definitions to Deny that Liberal-Fascism
Does Exist in the 21st Century is an Tired Old Argument.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/7fd91b4a2e4429c9
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The Validity of the Term "Liberal Fascist"
? Can It Exist? & ? Does It Exist ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af4569002bba33ca
Liberal Fascism : Denying It's Existence
Won't Make It Go Away
.
Liberals & Democrats and Their Fascist [NAZI]
Alliance : The Rest of the Story . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5719a62f36bcbbe8
.
Liberal+Fascism 'Ping-Pong' Fascism-Liberal :
Ad Nauseum
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.liberalism/msg/153a237ca9ac6d19
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May the Spirit and Oneness of "The Obama" Transform
Your Evil Hateful Liberal-Fascism Thoughts©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9847bea150e12417
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National Socialism and International Socialism
{World Communism} the Top-&-Bottom of the
Same Extreme©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0d1b36d6a97c6355
.
The Alliance Between the Liberal-Fascist and
National Socialism Leading To World Communism©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c4c044e3423630ca
.
"Liberal-Fascism" an Evolved Political Concept
of the 21st Century©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a3166feb059f9d28
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/14d9270671063cf6
.
Independent' Voters Have Shifted
from 2-to-1 for Obama in 2008
to 1-to-2 for Anybody but Obama in 2012
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/65cd2e06d0352446
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Obama-U-Nism© There Is No Deception
http://www.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e39e54fe4774d794
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Praise Be The Obama ! - my prez-a-duntz ~ RHF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K17kA50c1zs
All Hail to Our Lord and Savior Prez Obama !
http://votingfemale.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/obama-i-am-god.jpg
-for- all those unbelievers : the truth will set you free
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
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RHF

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Some say that in New Orleans the "Ladies"
call it . . . 'Katrina' unless you pay extra
then they will call it "BP" - stimmsl ~ RHF
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Joe from Kokomo

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On 9/17/2010 7:44 AM, John Smith wrote:

> Actually, since the 1970's, each new president has seen
> welfare/food-stamps increase ... through republi-crats and demo-cans the
> course has been unfaltering ... why get so upset now?

"why get so upset now?" you ask?

Well, it would seem that subtle (or not so subtle) racial bigotry may be
the answer to your question.

From reading some of the posts here, it would seem that no matter WHAT
Obama says or does, he is automatically wrong.

Heck, one poster even said Obama was a bad president because he didn't
get the family dog from a pound...

Chas. Chan

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On Sep 16, 5:53 pm, Lamont Cranston <Lamont.Crans...@TheShadow.com>
wrote:

> On 9/16/2010 1:52 PM, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
>
> There's no such thing as liberal fascism, numbnuts.

Fascism is a form of government which centers all power [House, Senate
and Judiciary] in a single party [Liberal Fascist Democrats] headed by
an absolute dictater [0baMa0 Tse Dung].

............................sound
familiar?............................

Anyone who is not a ComuSexual (Liberal/Progressive/Socialist/
Communist)
is a Fascist according to Useful Liberal Idiots.

Anyone who refutes a ComuSexual (Liberal/Progressive/Socialist/
Communist)
is a Fascist according to Useful Liberal Idiots.

Liberal Fascism
Pt.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsFoiVZDSRs
Pt.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hdqjDIfyfo
Pt.3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqdf7Wz-Pe4
Pt.4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfJSub3CDJk
Pt.5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmAMVyNuVa0
Pt.6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE-4VDpwYwk
Pt.7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCJqnwZPc0Q

If you haven't read the book, watched all of the above and understood
what was said don't bother responding with your ComuSexual propaganda
lies.

Left-wing roots of the Nazis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4758sBZLC5k

Marxism, National Socialism [NAZI] and Juche [N.Korea] are left-wing
brothers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa1sj0gwnuQ

When Liberals and NAZIs were Allies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-URfx_k9uU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9XrscWjPYs

Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
Pt.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk9WQaAIbOg
Pt.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmDXuA1-8FE
Pt.3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eeNB_rWqpk
Pt.4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4maXhvSm4fQ

The Liberal's Path to Socialism
Pt.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPyoEbU_wc4
Pt.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvuxr7v4xzk

"Just as the Left was drawn to the communist killing machines of
Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Castro, so too it is now attracted to
radical Islam."

"The contempt that German Hitlerytes had for "Bolshevism" or "marxist
Jews" generally should also not mislead us in assessing the similarity
between National Socialism and Communism. Leftist sects are very prone
to rivalry, dissension, schism and hatred of one-another. One has only
to think of the Bolsheviks versus the Mensheviks, Stalin versus
Trotsky, China versus the Soviet Union etc. Similarity does not
preclude rivalry. Hitler and Stalin were literally brothers in arms
BEFORE they became rivals. That socialist brothers sometimes fall out
should not prevent us from noting the brotherhood concerned."
___

"The fundamental dogma of all brands of socialism and communism is
that the market economy or capitalism is a system that hurts the vital
interests of the immense majority of people for the sole benefit of a
small minority of rugged individualists. It condemns the masses to
progressing impoverishment. It brings about misery, slavery,
oppression, degradation and exploitation of the working men, while it
enriches a class of idle and useless parasites."

"This doctrine was not the work of Karl Marx. It had been developed
long before Marx entered the scene. Its most successful propagators
were not the Marxian authors, but such men as Carlyle and Ruskin, the
British Fabians, the German professors and the American
Institutionalists. And it is a very significant fact that the
correctness of this dogma was contested only by a few economists who
were very soon silenced and barred from access to the universities,
the press, the leadership of political parties and, first of all,
public office. Public opinion by and large accepted the condemnation
of capitalism without any reservation."

http://mises.org/midroad.asp

[...]

"The term 'planning' is mostly used as a synonym for socialism,
communism, and authoritarian and totalitarian economic management.
Sometimes only the German pattern of socialism-Zwangswirtschaft-is
called planning, while the term socialism
proper is reserved for the Russian pattern of outright socialization
and bureaucratic operation of all plants, shops, and farms. At any
rate, planning in this sense means all-around planning by the
government and enforcement of these plans by the police power.
Planning in this sense means full government control of business. It
is the antithesis of free enterprise, private initiative, private
ownership of the means of production, market economy, and the price
system. Planning and capitalism are utterly incompatible. Within a
system of planning production is conducted according to the
government's orders, not according to the plans of capitalists and
entrepreneurs eager to profit by best filling the wants of the
consumers.

"But the term planning is also used in a second sense. Lord Keynes,
Sir William Beveridge, Professor Hansen, and many other eminent men
assert that they do not want to substitute totalitarian slavery for
freedom. They declare that they are planing
for a free society. They recommend a third system, which, as they say,
is as far from socialism as it is from capitalism, which, as a third
solution of the problem of society's economic organization, stands
midway between the two other systems, and while retaining the
advantages of both, avoids the disadvantages inherent in each.

"These self-styled progressives are certainly mistaken when they
pretend that their proposals are new and unheard of. The idea of this
third solution is very old indeed, and the French have long since
baptized it with a pertinent name; they call it interventionism.
Hardly anybody can doubt that history will link the idea of social
security, more closely than with the American New Deal and with Sir
William Beveridge, with the memory of Bismarck whom our fathers did
not precisely describe as a liberal. All the essential ideas of
present-day interventionist progressivism were neatly expounded by the
supreme brain-trusters of imperial Germany, Professors Schmoller and
Wagner, who at the same time urged their Kaiser to invade and to
conquer the Americas. Far be it from me to condemn any idea only on
account of its not being new. But as the progressives slander all
their opponents as old-fashioned, orthodox, and reactionary, it is
expedient to observe that it ,vould be more appropriate to speak of
the clash of two orthodoxies; the Bismarck orthodoxy versus the
Jefferson orthodoxy.

[...]

"The fundamental dogma of all brands of socialism and communism is
that the market economy or capitalism is a system that hurts the vital
interests of the immense majority of people for the sole benefit of a
small minority of rugged individualists. It condemns the masses to
progressing impoverishment. It brings about misery, slavery,
oppression, degradation and exploitation of the working men, while it
enriches a class of idle and useless parasites. This doctrine was not
the work of Karl Marx. It had been developed long before Marx entered
the scene. Its most successful propagators were not the Marxian
authors, but such men as Carlyle and Ruskin, the British Fabians, the
German professors and the American Institutionalists. And it is a very
significant fact that the correctness of this dogma was contested only
by few economists who were very soon silenced and barred from access
to the universities, the press, the leadership of political parties
and, first of all, public office. Public opinion by and large accepted
the condemnation of capitalism without any reservation.

[...]

Dr. Ludwig von Mises - 1952 - http://mises.org/books/planningforfreedom_mises.pdf
___

The following is from The World Book Encyclopedia, 1947 edition:
The chief characteristics of Fascism are as follows:

*THE CULTIVATION OF IGNORANCE*

Fascism, like all forms of government, rests firmly on the sincere
consent of a large part of the population... To maintain this consent,
the Fascist leadership must cut off the people from any information
which might cause them to doubt the complete rightness of the fixed
Fascist principles... All forms of communication are carefully
censored, so that the public will receive only those facts that the
dictators want known... Travel to other countries must be controlled,
and freedom of speech and assembly must be rigorously suppressed...

*SUPPRESSION OF LABOR AND INDUSTRY*

Fascism in Italy and Germany at first won the support of the wealthy
classes, both landed and industrial... These people saw in Fascism a
protection against the demands of farmers and other workers... Both
regimes at first upheld the rights of private property... They
subjected the working classes to a rigorous discipline... As soon as
they were firmly established, the dictators began to limit profit,
impose capital levies, and regulate business in great detail...

Employment Rates under Liberal Fascism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ssIhiD8kKM
............................sound
familiar?............................

*THE POLICE STATE*

Fascism depends upon the police to crush all opposition or dissent.
Secret police spy on the whole population, and any casual remark
against the regime leads to swift and severe punishment... Opposition
parties are dissolved. Intellectual, athletic and recreational
organizations are usually brought under the control of the Fascist
authority... The ruthlessness of the police gradually becomes less
noticeable... This is because within a year or so after a Fascist
government takes power, vigorous opponents of the regime have either
left the country, been killed or jailed...

(Both Fascist and Communist leaders make use of the police state...
Every absolute government has used the police state to some degree...
It was highly developed among the ancient Assyrians...)

*EXTREME NATIONALISM*

Fascism is highly nationalistic... It tries to identify its principles
with the country, so that disagreement will look like treason... Some
other country, or some group within the country, is chosen to serve as
the "enemy" and made to appear as the cause of all evils or
misfortunes... For example, the Nazis in Germany represented their
movement first as a crusade against the Jews, then as a fight against
Communism and later as a struggle against the "attacks" from whatever
neighboring country they wished to subdue or occupy... Extreme
nationalism often becomes a kind of racial fanaticism... Sometimes it
combines racial and religious bigotry...

*MILITARISM*

Fascism maintains among the people a permanently warlike frame of
mind... Every citizen feels that he is mobilized against enemies of
the regime from within, and against possible foreign foes... The
dictator usually comes to power during a period of economic crisis or
depression... He relieves the depression partly by employing many
people in the making of armaments... To justify this procedure, he
must convince the people that the country is threatened, and must
point toward some of the enemies against whom the armaments may be
needed...

Listen to 0baMa0's rhetoric and his fascistic support from the
Liberals
............................sound familiar?............................

Tim Crowley

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hint: fascism is a right wing political ideology, it has nothing to do
with liberals.

fuck, the no-names just get dumber and dumber and dumber.

D. Peter Maus

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No, he was commenting that Obama promised that he was going to
get his dog from the pound, and then bought a purebred from an
exclusive breeder.

Just another broken promise.

It's real easy to throw down the race card in dismissing critics
of this President. But it's a cheap shot.

The issue with this guy is the broken promises. Starting with the
campaign platform that promised a ban on hiring lobbyists into his
administration (that one didn't last through the transition), the
promise to run the most transparent administration in history (while
all the negotiations on the Health Care Bill were done in secret
behind closed doors), and the promise that all bills would be posted
to the internet for 72 hours prior to a vote (he has yet to meet
that one).

None of those have anything to do with race, Joe.

They have to do with his making promises that would be very easy
to keep. And all of them having been broken at the first opportunity.

It's not race, Joe. It's his behaviour.

In other words, it's not the race. It's the man.

John Smith

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You guys are just too much. Remember bush sr. "read my lips, no new taxes"

As I have said, through republi-crats and demo-cans, the plan of the
elite NWO marches on ... it has, at least, since the early 1970's ...

What really gets me are those who suggest a change of party or even
candidate is going to make a difference ... idiots! By the time they
get their name on a ballot, they have been bought and paid for ... think
revolution here.

Regards,
JS

dave

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Chas. Chan wrote:
> On Sep 16, 5:53 pm, Lamont Cranston<Lamont.Crans...@TheShadow.com>
> wrote:
>> On 9/16/2010 1:52 PM, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
>>
>> There's no such thing as liberal fascism, numbnuts.
>
> Fascism is a form of government which centers all power [House, Senate
> and Judiciary] in a single party [Liberal Fascist Democrats] headed by
> an absolute dictater [0baMa0 Tse Dung].

No. Fascism is when business creates a subservient government that
serves business first, then the people. This requires that the people
are groomed to be susceptible of manipulative schemes like religious
fervor and patriotic wars. There is a great deal of symbolism, and for
some weird reason, a lot of homoerotic back story.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Pictues Prove Mini Nukes Caused 9-11 Devastation
http://www.rense.com

Flying Aluminum Tubes.

http://www.devilfinder.com
The Hutchison Effect

Watchin Junkyard Wars on the SCI channel, I just now saw this tee vee
commercial.
http://www.build-solar-system.com

You can build your own Solar System.
cuhulin

m II

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Brenda Ann wrote:

>>> It was so much better when women were chained to their beds.......

>> Dude, you have bad mental problems. You might be a danger to yourself
>> and/or others. You need to get with a shrink and work on this ...

>> With only your best interest at heart,
>> JS

> Don't know about you... but I see a tongue firmly embedded in cheek when I
> read that post..


*I* detected only truth and sincerity.

Many of us on the Far Right have special rooms wallpapered with
Wolfowitz, Kristol, Rove and Cheney posters. They add that 'special'
feeling to the months or years long bondage experience.

My personal favourite times include wearing a latex George W. mask
while gazing at my domineering, ever-so-in-control splendour in the
ceiling mirrors.

Strangely, though...my special house guest from Holland Michigan
doesn't seem nearly as proactive as his adverts led me to believe he
would be. I'll have to check his collar for chafing...


mike

Werner

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or
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D. Peter Maus

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Nice. And didn't address his own issue once.

Excellent.


cuh...@webtv.net

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Proactive, Premptive, Operations Group
cuhulin

Joe from Kokomo

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>> On 9/17/2010 7:44 AM, John Smith wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, since the 1970's, each new president has seen
>>> welfare/food-stamps increase ... through republi-crats and demo-cans the
>>> course has been unfaltering ... why get so upset now?

On 9/17/10 07:27 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

>> "why get so upset now?" you ask?
>>
>> Well, it would seem that subtle (or not so subtle) racial bigotry may be
>> the answer to your question.
>>
>> From reading some of the posts here, it would seem that no matter WHAT
>> Obama says or does, he is automatically wrong.
>>
>> Heck, one poster even said Obama was a bad president because he didn't
>> get the family dog from a pound...

On 9/17/2010 8:50 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

> No, he was commenting that Obama promised that he was going to get his
> dog from the pound, and then bought a purebred from an exclusive breeder.
>
> Just another broken promise.

Well, I hate to put too fine a point on it...as I don't remember the
specific details (because at the time, I thought the dog deal was pretty
much a non-issue).

When you say "promise", to whom? Under what conditions? Did he swear to
it in front of a Supreme Court Justice on George Washington's bible?

I don't know if you are a parent or not, but sometimes parents do try
and please their kids. Maybe there was nothing at the pound that the
kids liked. Bottom line...there could be fifty different reasons why
they didn't end up getting it from the pound.

> It's real easy to throw down the race card in dismissing critics of this
> President. But it's a cheap shot.

I would respectfully beg to differ. It is abundantly, I say ABUNDANTLY
clear, that racism, however subtle, IS a factor. There are some (many?)
on this NG for whom Obama can NEVER be right, no matter which side of
the fence he is on.

Sorry, but that happens time and again on this NG.

However, I do agree with you that "the man" is also -part- of the equation.

Gee, a politician (of EITHER party) that lies. Who'd a thunk it? I'm
shocked...shocked, I say.

P.S.
The last presidential lies cost us TWO bogus wars, a trillion dollars,
thousands of US kids dead, more thousands horribly mutilated and tens of
thousands of dead innocent civilians.

If I had a choice, I'll go with the "lie" about the dog. :-(

cuh...@webtv.net

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Scott Rassmussen and Douglas Schoen

So, I mispelled Rasmussen, I can't blame it on my doggy either.Lets me
gits bak tu ahhwoikin onna mah metal security/burglar door fer mah
howis.
cuhulin

D. Peter Maus

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On 9/17/10 12:32 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:
>
>>> On 9/17/2010 7:44 AM, John Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, since the 1970's, each new president has seen
>>>> welfare/food-stamps increase ... through republi-crats and demo-cans
>>>> the
>>>> course has been unfaltering ... why get so upset now?
>
> On 9/17/10 07:27 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:
>
>>> "why get so upset now?" you ask?
>>>
>>> Well, it would seem that subtle (or not so subtle) racial bigotry may be
>>> the answer to your question.
>>>
>>> From reading some of the posts here, it would seem that no matter WHAT
>>> Obama says or does, he is automatically wrong.
>>>
>>> Heck, one poster even said Obama was a bad president because he didn't
>>> get the family dog from a pound...
>
> On 9/17/2010 8:50 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
>
>> No, he was commenting that Obama promised that he was going to get his
>> dog from the pound, and then bought a purebred from an exclusive breeder.
>>
>> Just another broken promise.
>
> Well, I hate to put too fine a point on it...as I don't remember the
> specific details (because at the time, I thought the dog deal was pretty
> much a non-issue).
>
> When you say "promise", to whom? Under what conditions? Did he swear to
> it in front of a Supreme Court Justice on George Washington's bible?

As Lee Iacocca said to the Mrs, "Nice dodge."

You brought up the dog. I didn't say it was an important issue.
But it was another broken promise. One of dozens. That was the point.


>
> I don't know if you are a parent or not, but sometimes parents do try
> and please their kids. Maybe there was nothing at the pound that the
> kids liked. Bottom line...there could be fifty different reasons why
> they didn't end up getting it from the pound.

That's true. But to comment on it isn't racism. To criticize him
for it isn't racism.

Someone in his position doesn't make a promise on such an issue,
except to appease a political constituency. That's not racial,
either. In other words, it was another political promise broken.

Unimportant as it is.

But you brought it up.


>
>> It's real easy to throw down the race card in dismissing critics of this
>> President. But it's a cheap shot.
>
> I would respectfully beg to differ. It is abundantly, I say ABUNDANTLY
> clear, that racism, however subtle, IS a factor. There are some (many?)
> on this NG for whom Obama can NEVER be right, no matter which side of
> the fence he is on.


That's an interesting leap.

So, there's no way race can't be involved?

The fact that there are those for whom G.W. Bush can NEVER be
right no matter which side he is on? So that's got a racial component?

The fact that there are those for whom Bill Clinton can NEVER be
right no matter which side he is on? That's racial?

But criticism of Obama must have a racial factor.

Where have I heard that before. I'd say that's a pretty racist
remark on its face.

You bring up Bush. Yes, he broke promises. He was excoriated for
it. I don't recall Jesse Jackson saying that the 'no new taxes'
blunder, AND it's subsequent criticisms, were racially motivated.

Yet, criticism of Obama for his blunders must be rooted in race?

That's bullshit.

Bill Clinton ran on a platform of lowering taxes for the middle
class. And before the first month was up, broke that promise.
Ironically, also blaming a Bush.

He, was crucified for it.

Bill Clinton lied his ass off before the nation, before the
Congress, before his wife. He committed perjury on the witness
stand. He also promised transparency. And he took his cornerstone
issues behind closed doors.

And he was savaged for them.

I don't recall a single comment implying racial motivations in
any of these criticisms.

Not one.

And Bush 43? Where to start.

I don't recall anyone suggesting that any criticisms of Bush were
motivated by race. But many of them did accuse HIM of racial motivation.

The hard truth is that politicians lie. They make promises with
the intention of breaking them. And make backroom deals. They sell
their influence. I'm in Illinois. Politicians rank below gang
members, career rapists and lawyers. But nowhere is ANY criticism
refuted with accusations of racism.

These career criminals are criticized for their actions. Their
ethics. Their values. For who they are. And often for who they are not.

Race isn't even on the radar.

"Racism" is the easiest card to throw in this culture today. IT's
a hot button issue.

And it's a cheap shot.

You want to defend Obama? Go for it. You'll have no end of ready
participants to such a discussion. A discussion, by the way, that
may be productive. Might actually convince some people. Will
certainly clarify thinking. And crystalize beliefs.

Try discussing the issues. You may find that you're in agreement
with many of us. You may find that many are in agreement with you.

But as soon as you get backed into a corner by a fact, throw the
race card. Please. Show us how evolved you are.


D. Peter Maus.

John Smith

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On 9/17/2010 11:19 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

> ...


> These career criminals are criticized for their actions. Their ethics.
> Their values. For who they are. And often for who they are not.
>
> Race isn't even on the radar.
>
> "Racism" is the easiest card to throw in this culture today. IT's a hot
> button issue.
>
> And it's a cheap shot.
>
> You want to defend Obama? Go for it. You'll have no end of ready
> participants to such a discussion. A discussion, by the way, that may be
> productive. Might actually convince some people. Will certainly clarify
> thinking. And crystalize beliefs.
>
> Try discussing the issues. You may find that you're in agreement with
> many of us. You may find that many are in agreement with you.
>
> But as soon as you get backed into a corner by a fact, throw the race
> card. Please. Show us how evolved you are.
>
>
> D. Peter Maus.

I know one thing, it is truly amazing. It in non-intuitive, brilliant in
its' simplicity and seems to have some relationship to the human psyche
which keeps the victim from seeing the victimization. And, so far, has
seemed to work very well for them ... for decades.

It is the simple "political-football-deception." You simply give them
two choices (two teams, parties, etc.), and then stock the teams with
treasonous, unethical, sociopathic liars who will do anything or say
anything in support of their masters and, you have a game!

You can even do this right out in the open. If anyone, or any group,
complains and tries to point out patterns and the end results, going on
for decades, which they have even been caught at before (false-flag
operations, for example) and they simply need to yell "conspiracy
nut-job" and the blanket which hides their treasonous crimes falls to
cloak their criminal actions ... simply amazing to set back and watch,
knowing it will be impossible to awaken those caught in the lotus
blossom dreams ...

Regards,
JS

amdx

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"?baMa? Tse Dung" <0bama0....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> If everyone would sent at least $1 at http://christine2010.com
>
> PayPal available!

I'll be sending $50.00 and if she'll change her mind and
say masturbation is ok and even pleasurable, I'll make it
$100.00.
MikeK
Ah, what the heck, I'm sending $100.00


sctvguy1

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∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:

> If everyone would sent at least $1 at http://christine2010.com
>
> PayPal available!

And YOU have what to do with shortwave radio? You need to stop cross-
posting this shit.

Dr. Barry Worthington

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On 17 Sep, 13:08, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Sep 16, 3:53 pm, Lamont Cranston <Lamont.Crans...@TheShadow.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 9/16/2010 1:52 PM, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
>
> - There's no such thing as liberal fascism, numbnuts.
>
> "LC" said the "There's no such thing as . . ." words.
> { hey i thought that only 'numbnuts' said that }
>  .
> ¡ LET THERE BE A REPLY !
>  .
> "Liberal-Fascism" with over 6-Million 'Hits' :
> Liberal-Fascism is a Virtual Reality in the 21st Centuryhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6a0dba38cddc6d10

(i) You have cited past postings by myself in a thread that tore both
you and the concept apart. (Which you ignored/didn't understand.)

(ii) I posted a reference and synopsis to the Coupland article, from
which Goldberg derived the term. (Included in one of the cited
postings.)

(iii) Coupland has since stated that Goldberg didn't understand his
article.

(iv) Jonah Goldberg is a slipshod third rate writer. (I will not
dignify him with the title of 'historian' or 'political scientist'.)

(v) No reputable academic journal (on both sides of the Atlantic) has
bothered to review his book.

(vi) You appear to be as thick as pig sh*t.

Dr. Barry Worthington


 .
> Try to use 1930s Definitions to Deny that Liberal-Fascism

> Does Exist in the 21st Century is an Tired Old Argument.http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/7fd91b4a2e44...


>  .
> The Validity of the Term "Liberal Fascist"

> ? Can It Exist? & ? Does It Exist ?http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af4569002bba33ca


> Liberal Fascism : Denying It's Existence
> Won't Make It Go Away
>  .
> Liberals & Democrats and Their Fascist [NAZI]

> Alliance : The Rest of the Story . . .http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5719a62f36bcbbe8
>  .
> Liberal+Fascism 'Ping-Pong' Fascism-Liberal :
> Ad Nauseumhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.liberalism/msg/153a237ca9...


>  .
> May the Spirit and Oneness of "The Obama" Transform
> Your Evil Hateful Liberal-Fascism Thoughts©http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9847bea150e12417
>  .
> National Socialism and International Socialism
> {World Communism} the Top-&-Bottom of the
> Same Extreme©http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0d1b36d6a97c6355
>  .
> The Alliance Between the Liberal-Fascist and
> National Socialism Leading To World Communism©http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c4c044e3423630ca
>  .
> "Liberal-Fascism" an Evolved Political Concept

> of the 21st Century©http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a3166feb059f9d28http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/14d9270671063cf6


>  .
> Independent' Voters Have Shifted
> from 2-to-1 for Obama in 2008

> to 1-to-2 for Anybody but Obama in 2012http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/65cd2e06d0352446
>  .
> Obama-U-Nism© There Is No Deceptionhttp://www.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e39e54fe4774d794
>  .
> Praise Be The Obama ! - my prez-a-duntz ~ RHFhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K17kA50c1zs
> All Hail to Our Lord and Savior Prez Obama !http://votingfemale.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/obama-i-am-god.jpg

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http://www.edinphoto.org
Edinburg,Scotland.
Dumbiedykes!? Now wait a minute,,,,,

There is an Edinburg,Mississippi too.
Yeah, in fact of the business,,, that Edinburg is near my old home town
of Carthage, over there near Walnut Grove.
cuhulin

RHF

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On Sep 17, 5:54 pm, "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk>
wrote:
- -
- - - On Sep 16, 3:53 pm, Lamont Cranston
- - - <Lamont.Crans...@TheShadow.com>
- - - wrote:
- - - There's no such thing as liberal fascism, numbnuts.

- - On 17 Sep, 13:08, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
- - RHF -wrote-
- - "LC" said the "There's no such thing as . . ." words.
- - { hey i thought that only 'numbnuts' said that }
- - .
- - ¡ LET THERE BE A REPLY !
- - .
- - "Liberal-Fascism" with over 6-Million 'Hits' :
- - Liberal-Fascism is a Virtual Reality in the 21st Century
- - http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6a0dba38cddc6d10

DBW -wrote-
- (i) You have cited past postings by myself in a thread that tore
both
- you and the concept apart. (Which you ignored/didn't understand.)
-
- (ii) I posted a reference and synopsis to the Coupland article, from
- which Goldberg derived the term. (Included in one of the cited
- postings.)
-
- (iii) Coupland has since stated that Goldberg didn't understand his
- article.
-
- (iv) Jonah Goldberg is a slipshod third rate writer. (I will not
- dignify him with the title of 'historian' or 'political scientist'.)
-
- (v) No reputable academic journal (on both sides of the Atlantic)
has
- bothered to review his book.
-
- (vi) You appear to be as thick as pig sh*t.

DBW - "pig sh*t" & 'thick'

Honestly DBW -is- That Your Conclusive Expert
{Educated} Opinion -with-respect-to-all-of-the-above-

- Dr. Barry Worthington

DBW - ? MD -or- PhD ?
.
Help Liberal-Fascism Defeat Christine O'Donnell and
the Tea Party'ers
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d9f1c971f1e2cd17
-aka- "T" Party Pay-Tree-Odds {Patriots}

DBW - You are attempting to make an Educated
Argument {Reason With} to someone who simply
uses his innate 'common-sense' {My Gut Feeling}

Clearly 'you' have a Well Educated Opinion that
Liberal Fascism Can NOT Exist -and- I can accept
your 'Opinion' as being your "Opinion"
. . . however . . .

Clearly 'i' have a 'common-sense' {humble} opinion
that Liberal-Fascism Can EXIST -but- You can NOT
accept my 'opinion' as being my "opinion"
. . . because . . .

After All, You Do Have The Power of Your Convictions
Based On The Sum Total of Your Life. {Absolute}

Oops... Am I Not Also Allowed The Power of My
Convictions Based On The Sum Total of My Life ?

clearly we can agree : that we disagree - eaflap ~ RHF
{you being you & me being me}
.
-ps- DBW do be very careful not to step in
the "pig sh*t" : i would not want you to soil
yourself because of me ;;-}}
.
=PPS= You Have Entered the "Arguing with Idiots" Zone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arguing_with_Idiots
There is a sign post up ahead . . .
-and-it-reads- "You Are An Idiot !"
-for- Arguing with someone that you
reasonably believe to be an I D I O T [.]
.
*OMG/OMA* Let Us Pray . . .
This Has Been A 'Teachable Moment'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teachable_moment
.
.
- - Try to use 1930s Definitions to Deny that Liberal-Fascism
- - Does Exist in the 21st Century is an Tired Old
- - Argument.
- - http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/7fd91b4a2e44...
- - .
- - The Validity of the Term "Liberal Fascist"
- - ? Can It Exist? & ? Does It Exist ?
- - http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af4569002bba33ca
- - Liberal Fascism : Denying It's Existence
- - Won't Make It Go Away
- - .
- - Liberals & Democrats and Their Fascist [NAZI]
- - Alliance : The Rest of the Story . . .
- - http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5719a62f36bcbbe8
- - .
- - Liberal+Fascism 'Ping-Pong' Fascism-Liberal :
- - Ad Nauseum
- - http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.liberalism/msg/153a237ca9...
- - .
- - May the Spirit and Oneness of "The Obama" Transform
- - Your Evil Hateful Liberal-Fascism Thoughts©
- - http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9847bea150e12417
- - .
- - National Socialism and International Socialism
- - {World Communism} the Top-&-Bottom of the
- - Same Extreme©
- - http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0d1b36d6a97c6355
- - .
- - The Alliance Between the Liberal-Fascist and
- - National Socialism Leading To World Communism©
- - http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c4c044e3423630ca
- - .
- - "Liberal-Fascism" an Evolved Political Concept
- - of the 21st Century©
- - http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a3166feb059f9d...
- - .
- - Independent' Voters Have Shifted
- - from 2-to-1 for Obama in 2008
- - to 1-to-2 for Anybody but Obama in 2012
- - http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/65cd2e06d0352446
- - .
- - Obama-U-Nism© There Is No Deception
- - http://www.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e39e54fe4774d794
- - .
- - Praise Be The Obama ! - my prez-a-duntz ~ RHF
- - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K17kA50c1zs
- - All Hail to Our Lord and Savior Prez Obama !
- - http://votingfemale.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/obama-i-am-god.jpg
- - -for- all those unbelievers : the truth will set you free
- - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
- - .
- - .
.
.

cuh...@webtv.net

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It's done Snowed in Montana already.Snowed in Whitefish last month.I
told y'all it gets COLD in Montana.COLDER than a well digger's arse in
Montana.I can't handle that thar COLD weather as good as I used to
could.
http://www.standeyo.com
cuhulin

rod

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Sep 17, 2010, 10:43:53 PM9/17/10
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***Hey CU, elect Christine and you'll have to stop "Spankin Hank"...

RHF

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On Sep 17, 7:31 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
- It's done Snowed in Montana already.Snowed in Whitefish last month.I
- told y'all it gets COLD in Montana.COLDER than a well digger's arse
in
- Montana.I can't handle that thar COLD weather as good as I used to
- could.http://www.standeyo.com
- cuhulin
.
*OMG/OMA* It's Another 'Sign' of "Climate Change"
.
First the Earth was getting Warmer according to the
Great Prophet of Global Warming
-a-la- Al Gore -pbhn-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore
.
Now the Earth was getting Colder according to the
Greater Prophet of Global 'Just-Cool-It'
-a-la- LL Cool J -pbhn-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LL_Cool_J
.
Hey - Just May Be The Great Mother Earth Is Having
Hot and Cold Flashes {Going Through Menopause}
according to the totally-unknown-prophet of Global . . .
'This Shit Happens Naturally !' -a-la- ~ RHF {ibid} © *
http://en.wikipedia.org / -create-an-RHF-a-webpage-
.
* © This is another Copy-Righted 'Brain Fart' of RHF
-wrt- 'Brain Fart' -yeah- This Idea(s) Stinks -pew(pu)-
.
.

John Smith

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Funny, but I would say the earth is warming. Indeed, from what I have
read, most, if not all, planets in our system are detectably warmer--I
don't think we can be blamed for all that. If the images I have seen on
google earth are not manipulated, the polar caps are losing mass due to
melting.

The only question is, how much is due to our actions ... if you light a
match in an auditorium, you have warmed that auditorium, even though it
would, probably, defy us to be able to measure such a small increase in
overall warmth, so obviously we have warmed the planet, some ... if this
is something to worry about or not is what any concern hinges on. I'd
wait before deciding one way or another ... and, why is the warming
necessarily bad? There are a lot more questions to be answered before
sane men would make any drastic judgment or take drastic action.

Either way, carbon taxes are a scam which does nothing but put money in
the greedy and corrupt pockets.

Regards,
JS

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RHF wrote:
> On Sep 17, 7:31 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> - It's done Snowed in Montana already.Snowed in Whitefish last month.I
> - told y'all it gets COLD in Montana.COLDER than a well digger's arse
> in
> - Montana.I can't handle that thar COLD weather as good as I used to
> - could.http://www.standeyo.com
> - cuhulin
> .
> *OMG/OMA* It's Another 'Sign' of "Climate Change"
> .
http://www.wunderground.com/data/images/latest_monthlytempanomaly.gif

Ever hear of an ostrich? Pretending won't make it go away. It's
probably too late to fix; still at some point you'll have to admit that
something bad and unprecedented is happening.

dave

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Sep 18, 2010, 9:43:00 AM9/18/10
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John Smith wrote:

>
> Either way, carbon taxes are a scam which does nothing but put money in
> the greedy and corrupt pockets.
>
> Regards,
> JS
>

A nuclear exchange in South Asia would be a smashing good way to thin
the herd and wake up the survivors. But I'm still putting my money on MRSA.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Sarah Palin.
http://www.SarahPAC.com
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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If you lay your ear on a Railroad track, you can hear a Train coming a
long ways away.That Railroad track a mile and a half North of doggy's
couch, I can hear a Train over there from right here at doggy's couch.
cuhulin

Mike

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And it might lead to a more lasting revulsion to the use of nuclear
weapons,
leading to global disarmament. In debate, this argument is known as
"Spark".

Mike

dxAce

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Lying about having a PhD is known as "Stupidity".

>

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Confiscation of Retirement Accounts
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=295829
cuhulin

RHF

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On Sep 18, 5:59 am, Mike <mwbry...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Sep 18, 9:43 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> > John Smith wrote:
>
> > > Either way, carbon taxes are a scam which does nothing but put money in
> > > the greedy and corrupt pockets.
>
> > > Regards,
> > > JS
>
- - A nuclear exchange in South Asia would
- - be a smashing good way to thin the herd
- - and wake up the survivors.

'Special Dave' - Ah Once Again Your "The Herd"
Mentality Surfaces with Great Extinction !
-wrt- Thinning "The Herd" your personal actions
would speak louder than words.

But I'm still putting my money on MRSA.

Thanks for the Donation !Cha-Ching!

- And it might lead to a more lasting revulsion
- to the use of nuclear weapons,
- leading to global disarmament.

The People in the Stone-Age did NOT have Nukes [.]
-and-thus- . . .

- In debate, this argument is known as "Spark".
-
- Mike

MWB - In Reality "Spark" Means You Are Dead [.]

don't be mess'en with no 'sparks'
when i am in the powder mag ~ RHF
.

RHF

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Sep 18, 2010, 10:30:08 AM9/18/10
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On Sep 18, 6:32 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> RHF wrote:
> > On Sep 17, 7:31 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> > - It's done Snowed in Montana already.Snowed in Whitefish last month.I
> > - told y'all it gets COLD in Montana.COLDER than a well digger's arse
> > in
> > - Montana.I can't handle that thar COLD weather as good as I used to
> > - could.http://www.standeyo.com
> > - cuhulin
> >   .
> > *OMG/OMA* It's Another 'Sign' of "Climate Change"
> >   .
>
> http://www.wunderground.com/data/images/latest_monthlytempanomaly.gif
>
- Ever hear of an ostrich?
- Pretending won't make it go away.

False Prophecies* Won't Make It Happen either . . .

* Saint Al of Gore -wrt- VooDoo Science
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo_science
"Fudge" The Date and Create a 'Theoretical'
Catastrophe to Profit By . . .

- It's probably too late to fix;

How Doe We "Fix' Something That Is Naturally
Occurring like the Sun and the Earth Aging and
Thus Producing a Change in the Earth's Climate :
A 'Change' that is a Natural Transformational
Envent that may be happening over an Earth
Age or may be even an Earth Epoch . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_timescale
?Q? Has Mankind {Humanity} Even Been Around
For One Earth Age ? ? ? -i-don't-think-so-

- still at some point you'll have to admit that

'Special Dave' - ? admit ?
¡ Let There Be A Reply ! {Starting Here}
The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold
Flashes {Going Through Menopause}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/71fa8cad1be91f44

- something bad and unprecedented is happening.

'Special Dave',

? something bad and unprecedented is happening ?

Yeah we call it 'The Weather' and mostly 'The
Weather' changes daily . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather

The Climate usually Varies {Changes} with the Seasons . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season
. . . and . . . Every Day Is A New 'Weather' Day . . .

Throughout Recorded History : Man has noted
'Climate Change' . . .
. . . wrt . . . Little Ice Age
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

Man also has Scientific Proof from the Earth's Surface
of Massive 'Climate Change' Events; that occurred
prior to the Advent of Man on this Planet.
. . . of . . . Ice Ages and Warmer Times . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age

'Special Dave' - it don't take a rocket scientist {idtars}
to know that Mankind {Humanity} is just a FlySpeck
in a Table Spoon of Ground Pepper when it comes to
Earth Ages and the real 'Climate Change' that occurrs
as This Planet "Earth" and it's Solar System Ages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth
.
The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold
Flashes {Going Through Menopause}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/71fa8cad1be91f44
.
GLOBAL WARMING -aka- CLIMATE CHANGE
Blame Prez Bush -cause- He's The Prez-A-Duntz !
. . . Oops 2009/2010 Up-Date . . .
Blame Prez Obama -cause- He's The Prez-A-Duntz !
.
.

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http://www.devilfinder.com
The Sunshine Project

I plagiarized that from devilfinder.com

The Bowery Boys on TCM right now.They done won a bet, a Horse.
cuhulin

RHF

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The Sunshine Project
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Project
-website-
http://www.sunshine-project.org/biodefense/
Biological Weapons and Biotechnology
.

bpnjensen

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On Sep 18, 2:18 am, Bob Dobbs <chupaca...@operamail.com> wrote:
> John Smith wrote:
>
> <~~~>

>
> >if you light a
> >match in an auditorium, you have warmed that auditorium, even though it
> >would, probably, defy us to be able to measure such a small increase in
> >overall warmth
>
> I've heard there are bolometers that can measure the delta enthalpy of an ice
> floe as a result of the diabatic process occurring when a polar bear's paw
> strides across it.
>
> --
>
> Operator Bob
> Echo Charlie 42

Bob, don't confuse them, it won't help ;-)

bpnjensen

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On Sep 18, 6:08 am, "Why is the Sky China Blue?"
<chine.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <105aa688-c462-4fef-be78-645fbb35b...@q18g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>,
> As long as nuclear weapons remain with the countries that developped them, I'm
> less worried. A country with the technology to make these weapons is not
> suicidal enough to choose to use these weapons.
>
> --
> Damn the living - It's a lovely life.           I'm whoever you want me to be.
> Silver silverware - Where is the love?       At least I can stay in character.
> Oval swimming pool - Where is the love?    Annoying Usenet one post at a time.
> Damn the living - It's a lovely life.                              Blessed be.

You know, there is something to this logic, although the definition of
"development" has enough wiggle room to allow for conjecture here.
Iran is possibly "developing" nukes - how do we feel about that?

bpnjensen

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On Sep 18, 6:32 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:

There is little doubt the climate is changing, and most importantly at
a reckless rate of speed unparalleled compared to any rates able to be
determined from the geologic record. The part some people now have
trouble with is: Humans are causing it, and : something should be
done to slow it.

It all comes down to short-term costs/profits vs. long-term well-being
of the planet and our descendants. A good fortune at the expense of
others is a terrible thing to sacrifice for their benefit.

cuh...@webtv.net

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I playgiarize WHO DAT too.
Dats Dat.
cuhulin

Dr. Barry Worthington

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On 18 Sep, 03:33, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Sep 17, 5:54 pm, "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk>
> wrote:
> - -
> - - - On Sep 16, 3:53 pm, Lamont Cranston
> - - - <Lamont.Crans...@TheShadow.com>- - - wrote:
>
> - - - There's no such thing asliberalfascism, numbnuts.

>
> - - On 17 Sep, 13:08, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> - - RHF -wrote-
> - - "LC" said the "There's no such thing as . . ." words.
> - - { hey i thought that only 'numbnuts' said that }
> - - .
> - - ¡ LET THERE BE A REPLY !
> - - .
> - - "Liberal-Fascism" with over 6-Million 'Hits' :
> - -Liberal-Fascismis a Virtual Reality in the 21st Century
> - -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6a0dba38cddc6d10

>
> DBW -wrote-
> - (i) You have cited past postings by myself in a thread that tore
> both
> - you and the concept apart. (Which you ignored/didn't understand.)
> -
> - (ii) I posted a reference and synopsis to the Coupland article, from
> - which Goldberg derived the term. (Included in one of the cited
> - postings.)
> -
> - (iii) Coupland has since stated that Goldberg didn't understand his
> - article.
> -
> - (iv) Jonah Goldberg is a slipshod third rate writer. (I will not
> - dignify him with the title of 'historian' or 'political scientist'.)
> -
> - (v) No reputable academic journal (on both sides of the Atlantic)
> has
> - bothered to review his book.
> -
> - (vi) You appear to be as thick as pig sh*t.
>
> DBW - "pig sh*t" & 'thick'
>
> Honestly DBW -is- That Your Conclusive Expert
> {Educated} Opinion -with-respect-to-all-of-the-above-

It is my opinion of your mental processes (or seeming lack of
them)....

>
> - Dr. Barry Worthington
>
> DBW - ? MD -or- PhD ?

Doctor of Philosophy, actually.

>  .
> HelpLiberal-FascismDefeat Christine O'Donnell and
> the Tea Party'ershttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d9f1c971f1e2cd17


> -aka- "T" Party Pay-Tree-Odds {Patriots}
>
> DBW - You are attempting to make an Educated
> Argument {Reason With} to someone who simply
> uses his innate 'common-sense' {My Gut Feeling}
>

> Clearly 'you' have a Well Educated Opinion thatLiberalFascismCan NOT Exist -and- I can accept


> your 'Opinion' as being your "Opinion"
> . . . however .

It isn't just my opinion. Most educated people would concur with it.


. .
>
> Clearly 'i' have a 'common-sense' {humble} opinion

> thatLiberal-FascismCan EXIST -but- You can NOT


> accept my 'opinion' as being my "opinion"
> . . . because . . .

Because you accept possibly fraudulent garbage masquerading as an
academic study....

> After All, You Do Have The Power of Your Convictions
> Based On The Sum Total of Your Life. {Absolute}
>
> Oops... Am I Not Also Allowed The Power of My
> Convictions Based On The Sum Total of My Life ?

We are dealing with your political illiteracy here...

>
> clearly we can agree : that we disagree - eaflap ~ RHF
> {you being you & me being me}
>  .
> -ps- DBW do be very careful not to step in
> the "pig sh*t" : i would not want you to soil
> yourself because of me ;;-}}


You appear to cover yourself with it.....you are either very naive or
have an agenda of your own.....

>  .
> =PPS= You Have Entered the "Arguing with Idiots" Zonehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arguing_with_Idiots


> There is a sign post up ahead . . .
> -and-it-reads- "You Are An Idiot !"
> -for- Arguing with someone that you
> reasonably believe to be an I D I O T [.]
>  .
> *OMG/OMA* Let Us Pray . . .
> This Has Been A 'Teachable Moment'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teachable_moment
>  .
>  .

Why do you have to post this crap again?

I have demonstrated the fallacious origins of Goldberg's use of this
term. Why can't you deal with that?

Dr. Barry Worthington

dave

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RHF wrote:
> On Sep 18, 6:32 am, dave<d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>> RHF wrote:
>>> On Sep 17, 7:31 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
>>> - It's done Snowed in Montana already.Snowed in Whitefish last month.I
>>> - told y'all it gets COLD in Montana.COLDER than a well digger's arse
>>> in
>>> - Montana.I can't handle that thar COLD weather as good as I used to
>>> - could.http://www.standeyo.com
>>> - cuhulin
>>> .
>>> *OMG/OMA* It's Another 'Sign' of "Climate Change"
>>> .
>>
>> http://www.wunderground.com/data/images/latest_monthlytempanomaly.gif
>>
> - Ever hear of an ostrich?
> - Pretending won't make it go away.
>
> False Prophecies* Won't Make It Happen either . . .
>
A map of measurements is hardly a prophecy.

Brenda Ann

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"bpnjensen" <bpnj...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2782bc01-fa41-408c...@e34g2000prn.googlegroups.com...

There is little doubt the climate is changing, and most importantly at
a reckless rate of speed unparalleled compared to any rates able to be
determined from the geologic record. The part some people now have
trouble with is: Humans are causing it, and : something should be
done to slow it.

It all comes down to short-term costs/profits vs. long-term well-being
of the planet and our descendants. A good fortune at the expense of
others is a terrible thing to sacrifice for their benefit.

**********************************************************
I think one reason many people have a problem with the fact that humans are
causing climate change is that humans tend to not think past their own
tribal groups, whether that be household, city, state or even country (the
US has just 5% of the Earth's population). Fact is, there are 6,000,000,000
of us, and growing rapidly (we were only 3,000,000,000 less than 50 years
ago!). That many resource users can't help but affect their environment.


dave

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Brenda Ann wrote:

> I think one reason many people have a problem with the fact that humans are
> causing climate change is that humans tend to not think past their own
> tribal groups, whether that be household, city, state or even country (the
> US has just 5% of the Earth's population). Fact is, there are 6,000,000,000
> of us, and growing rapidly (we were only 3,000,000,000 less than 50 years
> ago!). That many resource users can't help but affect their environment.
>
>

Consumerism or survival?

Message has been deleted

John Smith

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On 9/18/2010 1:23 PM, Dr. Barry Worthington wrote:

> ...
> Doctor of Philosophy, actually.
> ...
> Dr. Barry Worthington
>

Ahh, all those comments, of mine, on philosophers with doctorates,
nothing personal and, I was using a wide generalization(s). But, then,
you already know that ...

Regards,
JS

RHF

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Sep 18, 2010, 8:37:04 PM9/18/10
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On Sep 18, 1:23 pm, "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk>

- Doctor of Philosophy, actually.

Good for you :o)


> > .
> > HelpLiberal-FascismDefeat Christine O'Donnell and
> > the Tea Party'ershttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d9f1c971f1e2cd17
> > -aka- "T" Party Pay-Tree-Odds {Patriots}
>
> > DBW - You are attempting to make an Educated
> > Argument {Reason With} to someone who simply
> > uses his innate 'common-sense' {My Gut Feeling}
>
> > Clearly 'you' have a Well Educated Opinion thatLiberalFascismCan NOT Exist -and- I can accept
> > your 'Opinion' as being your "Opinion"
> > . . . however .

- It isn't just my opinion.
- Most educated people would concur with it.

and equally the possibility exists that : most
'common-sense' people would be of my opinion.


> . .
>
>
>
> > Clearly 'i' have a 'common-sense' {humble} opinion
> > thatLiberal-FascismCan EXIST -but- You can NOT
> > accept my 'opinion' as being my "opinion"
> > . . . because . . .

- Because you accept possibly fraudulent
- garbage masquerading as an academic study....

Ah "possibly" and 'the possible' is part of your argument.

-but- "possibly" and 'the possible' can not be
part of my argument.

The Validity of the Term "Liberal-Fascist"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af4569002bba33ca

Question : Can It Exist? {Is It Possible ?}
Are We Allowed* To Consider The Possibility !
* Your Answer seems to be NO.

Question : Does It Exist ? {Is It Possible ?}
Are We Allowed* To Consider That Possibility !
* Your Answer seems to be NO.

My Follow-Up -remains- Liberal-Fascism :
Denying It's Existence : Won't Make It Go Away

- - .

> > After All, You Do Have The Power of Your Convictions
> > Based On The Sum Total of Your Life. {Absolute}
>
> > Oops... Am I Not Also Allowed The Power of My
> > Convictions Based On The Sum Total of My Life ?

- We are dealing with your political illiteracy here...

Ah the [illiteracy] Box

My 'common-sense' tells me : 'I Know' What "I Know"
-and- My Gut Tells Me : "I Am Right"
{yeah simplistic -but- often true}

> > clearly we can agree : that we disagree - eaflap ~ RHF
> > {you being you & me being me}
> > .
> > -ps- DBW do be very careful not to step in
> > the "pig sh*t" : i would not want you to soil
> > yourself because of me ;;-}}

- You appear to cover yourself with it.....

And with every reply so do you . . .

- you are either very naive
- or have an agenda of your own.....

Hey "Agenda-R-Us" you ain't so naive . . .

OBTW - DBW visually you are a "....."
-and- I am a ". . ."

> > .
- - =PPS= You Have Entered the "Arguing with Idiots" Zone
- - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arguing_with_Idiots
- - There is a sign post up ahead . . .
- - -and-it-reads- "You Are An Idiot !"
- - -for- Arguing with someone that you
- - reasonably believe to be an I D I O T [.]
- - .
- - *OMG/OMA* Let Us Pray . . .
- - This Has Been A 'Teachable Moment'
- - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teachable_moment
> > .
> > .

- Why do you have to post this crap again?

The Bigger Question Would Be : Why Do You
An 'Educated' Man Feel The Need To Respond . . .

- I have demonstrated the fallacious origins
- of Goldberg's use of this term.
- Why can't you deal with that?
-
- Dr. Barry Worthington

DBW - Consider the possibility that your
"Educated Reality" does not negate my
'common-sense' reality - idtars ~ RHF
.
.
Getting back to My Agenda-R-Us :
{ Staying On Message }
.
Help Liberal-Fascism Defeat Christine O'Donnell

.
Help Fascist-Liberals Defeat "What's Her Name"
and the "Tea Party" Pay-Tree-Odds
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/15852010435b5586
.
.

John Smith

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On 9/18/2010 5:37 PM, RHF wrote:

> ...

Find a "Screaming Queen" homosexual, study it for a period of time, if
anyone doing that still denies the existence of liberal fascists, their
use of logic and reason is faulty!

Regards,
JS

cuh...@webtv.net

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Sep 18, 2010, 9:30:52 PM9/18/10
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Y'all having hot and cold flashes?

The Commodore appreciates a fine looking ''Frigate''.
Keeping Up Appearances.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Sep 18, 2010, 10:31:20 PM9/18/10
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The Van movie, on the Fox Movie Channel.Where else but in Ireland would
the whole neighborhood turn out to help push a big old walk in step van?
Some of those people running along and doing hand stands and cart
wheels.
cuhulin

John Smith

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Sounds like a homosexual parade in LA! Bummer dude ...

Regards,
JS

arthr...@webtv.net

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And what about the walrus ?

John Smith

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On 9/18/2010 8:02 PM, arthr...@webtv.net wrote:

> ...


> And what about the walrus ?

I have heard that it answered the age old question, finally! That
question being, "How many fairies can dance the head of a pin?" Who
would have thought, you can just take the measured heat gain, from the
head of the pin, and using the known heat gain from a single fairy find
the correct number?

Darn, we will all be looking for a new question now! <straight face>

Regards,
JS

RHF

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Sep 19, 2010, 1:20:53 AM9/19/10
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On Sep 18, 5:52 pm, John Smith <assemblywiz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/18/2010 5:37 PM, RHF wrote:
>
> > ...
>
- Find a "Screaming Queen" homosexual, study it
- for a period of time, if anyone doing that still denies
- the existence of liberal fascists, their use of logic
- and reason is faulty!
-
- Regards,
- JS

"Queer Nation" and "ACT-Up" come to mind as real
IN-YOUR-FACE Activists on behalf of LGBT Rights.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_Nation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_Coalition_to_Unleash_Power

Both used to show-up regularly on the SF Bay
Area TV News Casts with their very Public Antics
along with the "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisters_of_Perpetual_Indulgence
.
.

bpnjensen

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On Sep 18, 4:49 pm, "Why is the Sky China Blue?"
<chine.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <af4acbf7-017f-4b47-997e-6295d77d8...@p24g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,

>
>  bpnjensen <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > You know, there is something to this logic, although the definition of
> > "development" has enough wiggle room to allow for conjecture here.
> > Iran is possibly "developing" nukes - how do we feel about that?
>
> Iran fought a nasty war with Iraq with lots of deaths. Well...lots of young
> Iranians died, but the glorious leaders of the revolution were safely hiding in
> Qom and Teheran. So, no, the Iranian leadership is not suicidal.
>
> The real problem is that if Iran gets nuclear weapons, all the other kids on the
> block will demand their own from their Uncle Sam.

>
> --
> Damn the living - It's a lovely life.           I'm whoever you want me to be.
> Silver silverware - Where is the love?       At least I can stay in character.
> Oval swimming pool - Where is the love?    Annoying Usenet one post at a time.
> Damn the living - It's a lovely life.                              Blessed be.

But that's not the question.

bpnjensen

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On Sep 18, 3:19 pm, "Brenda Ann" <newsgro...@fullspectrumradio.org>
wrote:
> "bpnjensen" <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

A REALLY good observation, and I would add that humans have a very
hard time looking past their own lifespans (or in the backwards case,
beyond their own memories).

RHF

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Sep 19, 2010, 1:36:18 AM9/19/10
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On Sep 18, 8:10 pm, John Smith <assemblywiz...@gmail.com> wrote:

JS - ? Fairies ? -iirc- It was "Angels"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F

The 'converse' {opposite-end} question -wrt- the
Head of a Pin -is- the simpler question of : How
Many Angels Can Dance On The 'Tip' of a Pin ?

js - the answer is really very easy -if- you truly
understand 'the point' of the question ~ RHF
.
.

RHF

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On Sep 18, 3:19 pm, "Brenda Ann" <newsgro...@fullspectrumradio.org>
wrote:
> "bpnjensen" <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

BAD,

Sun and the Earth and the Rest of the Planets
The Ever Changing Climate of the Solar System.
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/images/sunearth_lg.gif

Mankind-Humanity is just a FlySpeck in a Cup
of Ground Pepper when it comes to Earth Ages
and the real 'Climate Change' that occurs as


This Planet "Earth" and it's Solar System Ages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8dd3f15ae2fbe1d0

Clearly there is Naturally Evolving 'Climate Change'
but all Mankind {Humanity} Can Do Is Adapt To It
and Hope to Survive the next 100~10K~1M Years
. . . imho ~ RHF
.
Now =WRT= 3B or 6B Humans on this Earth :
That is getting to be Gross Over Population of
The Planet; and a very real Critical Problem for
All of Humanity -but- That Ain't "Climate Change" [.]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over-population
* Too Many People Consuming Ever More . . .
* Dwindling & Depleted Natural Resources
* Limited {No} Future for All
.
.

bpnjensen

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On Sep 18, 10:20 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Sep 18, 5:52 pm, John Smith <assemblywiz...@gmail.com> wrote:> On 9/18/2010 5:37 PM, RHF wrote:
>
> > > ...
>
> - Find a "Screaming Queen" homosexual, study it
> - for a period of time, if anyone doing that still denies
> - the existence of liberal fascists, their use of logic
> - and reason is faulty!
> -
> - Regards,
> - JS
>
> "Queer Nation" and "ACT-Up" come to mind as real
> IN-YOUR-FACE Activists on behalf of LGBT Rights.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_Nationhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_Coalition_to_Unleash_Power

>
> Both used to show-up regularly on the SF Bay
> Area TV News Casts with their very Public Antics
> along with the "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisters_of_Perpetual_Indulgence
>  .
>  .

Nowadays, people are so polarized and so severely misunderstand what
fascism is that they are likely to use the word for practically
anything with which they sorely disagree.

Unless we are talking about institutionalized bias against specific
groups of people, then real fascism is not present, although would-be
fascists can be everywhere.

Most gay activists are fighting AGAINST institutionalized fascism.
The people RHF cites as having been on TV and in your face may be
obnoxious, weird and downright offensive (depending on your POV), and
a whole bunch of other things too, but "fascists" is not likely one of
them.

bpnjensen

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Sep 19, 2010, 3:13:38 AM9/19/10
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On Sep 18, 11:01 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:


> Mankind-Humanity is just a FlySpeck in a Cup
> of Ground Pepper when it comes to Earth Ages
> and the real 'Climate Change' that occurs as
> This Planet "Earth" and it's Solar System Ages.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

Ah, but there is the rub. Your claim is in error.

Mankind, and the accumulated energy use of almost 7,000,000,000 large
and greedy mammals, is not the flyspeck you postulate. Never before
in earth's history has a single cumulative force been so pervasive and
so potent. It took Nature working 24/7/365 for a half billion years
to sequester the carbon dioxide that humans are releasing in about
*one millionth* that amount of time. Nothing like this has ever
happened, not by the combined effects of volcanoes, hurricanes or
erosion. Ever. The near spontaneous and instantaneous release of this
CO2 is the problem, and to minimize this unprecedented alteration of
the atmosphere's radiation balance is the literal version of the
mythic ostrich with head-in-sand.

Deny all you like...if carte blanche to profit and continued reckless
gross consumption are more important than the health of this, the only
tiny planetary home we have.

RHF

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Sep 19, 2010, 7:13:12 AM9/19/10
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On Sep 19, 12:04 am, bpnjensen <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 18, 10:20 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 18, 5:52 pm, John Smith <assemblywiz...@gmail.com> wrote:> On 9/18/2010 5:37 PM, RHF wrote:
>
> > > > ...
>
> > - Find a "Screaming Queen" homosexual, study it
> > - for a period of time, if anyone doing that still denies
> > - the existence of liberal fascists, their use of logic
> > - and reason is faulty!
> > -
> > - Regards,
> > - JS
>
> > "Queer Nation" and "ACT-Up" come to mind as real
> > IN-YOUR-FACE Activists on behalf of LGBT Rights.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_Nationhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...

>
> > Both used to show-up regularly on the SF Bay
> > Area TV News Casts with their very Public Antics
> > along with the "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisters_of_Perpetual_Indulgence
> >  .
> >  .
>
> Nowadays, people are so polarized and so severely misunderstand what
> fascism is that they are likely to use the word for practically
> anything with which they sorely disagree.
>
> Unless we are talking about institutionalized bias against specific
> groups of people, then real fascism is not present, although would-be
> fascists can be everywhere.
>
> Most gay activists are fighting AGAINST institutionalized fascism.
> The people RHF cites as having been on TV and in your face may be
> obnoxious, weird and downright offensive (depending on your POV), and
> a whole bunch of other things too, but "fascists" is not likely one of
> them.

BpnJ,

What I responded to was the words used by "JS"
- - - "Screaming Queen" homosexual - - -

That is what those Groups '"DID" to get on TV to
bring Public Attention to "Their Cause".

Note - Which part of "Activists on behalf of LGBT
Rights" did you miss ? {Their Cause}

Substitute "Racist" for 'Fascist' in what you wrote
and it still reads the same.

Yes "would-be fascists can be everywhere" including
in Liberal Groups and the Democrat Party of the USA.
{An Real Inconvenient Truth}

Nowadays, people understand what Fascism IS {has
evolved into in the 21st Century} and Use the Word
'practically' as it applies to the Mentality of Fascism,
and the Tactics of Fascist in any group be it
Right-or-Left and Liberal-or-Conservative.

-translation-
1 - If You Think Like A Fascist : Your Are A Fascist [.]
2 - If You Act Like A Fascist : Your Are A Fascist [.]
One or both Make You a Fascist even though you
may call yourself a Liberal, a Democrat or Socialist.

un-fascistly yours ~ RHF
.

John Smith

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On 9/18/2010 10:36 PM, RHF wrote:

> ...


> JS - ? Fairies ? -iirc- It was "Angels"
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F
>
> The 'converse' {opposite-end} question -wrt- the
> Head of a Pin -is- the simpler question of : How
> Many Angels Can Dance On The 'Tip' of a Pin ?
>
> js - the answer is really very easy -if- you truly
> understand 'the point' of the question ~ RHF
> .
> .

Used to be Angels, then the homosexuals demanded equal rights. Now they
dance the heads of pins ... other things too.

Regards,
JS

John Smith

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On 9/19/2010 12:04 AM, bpnjensen wrote:

> ...


> Most gay activists are fighting AGAINST institutionalized fascism.
> The people RHF cites as having been on TV and in your face may be
> obnoxious, weird and downright offensive (depending on your POV), and
> a whole bunch of other things too, but "fascists" is not likely one of
> them.

That is the full 180 degrees back-arse-wards. They are a small minority
who wish to impose their will and the acceptance of their perversions on
the majority. They attempt to use the courts as a weapon against any
who find them disgusting. They sue over anything, including the right
to be openly in neighborhoods practicing their perversions where people
are attempting to raise families with real morals and values. The
demand that marriage be destroyed in order to give them "equal rights."
They demand that the perversion of homosexuality be taught in the
schools as an "alternate lifestyle." They have forced the schools into
brainwashing the straight students into tolerance and acceptance of
these vile perversions.

The means which they will stoop to, to cause "acceptance" of them and
that their wants and desires be fulfilled has no bounds ...

NO! Those fools are truly fascist in intent and actions.

Regards,
JS

RHF

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Sep 19, 2010, 8:47:27 AM9/19/10
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On Sep 19, 12:13 am, bpnjensen <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
- - On Sep 18, 11:01 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
- -
- - Mankind-Humanity is just a FlySpeck in a Cup
- - of Ground Pepper when it comes to Earth Ages
- - and the real 'Climate Change' that occurs as
- - This Planet "Earth" and it's Solar System Ages.
- - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

- Ah, but there is the rub.
- Your claim is in error.

NAH ! {Once Again} -wrt- 'Climate Change' : The
Mankind Factor is 1 in 1,000,000 or less . . and
the other 999,999 is the Earth and Sun with the
Earth being 999 and the Sun being 999,000 in
the Balance-of-Things for all of the yesterdays;
Today; and all of the tomorrows . . .

Sun and the Earth and the Rest of the Planets
The Ever Changing Climate of the Solar System.
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/images/sunearth_lg.gif

-hint- Don't see a 'human' in the Picture.

Mankind-Humanity is just a FlySpeck in a Cup
of Ground Pepper when it comes to Earth Ages
and the real 'Climate Change' that occurs as

This Planet "Earth" and it's Solar System Ages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

Clearly there is Naturally Evolving 'Climate Change'
but all Mankind {Humanity} Can Do Is Adapt To It
and Hope to Survive the next 100~10K~1M Years
. . . imho ~ RHF
.
Now =WRT= 3B or 6B Humans on this Earth :
That is getting to be Gross Over Population of
The Planet; and a very real Critical Problem for
All of Humanity -but- That Ain't "Climate Change" [.]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over-population
* Too Many People Consuming Ever More . . .
* Dwindling & Depleted Natural Resources
* Limited {No} Future for All
.

-just-staying-on-message-
.
>
- Mankind, and the accumulated energy use of
- almost 7,000,000,000 large and greedy mammals,
- is not the flyspeck you postulate.

=WRT= Over Population : "YES"
-and- Climate Change : 'no'

The entire Human Bio-Mass stacked like fire wood
could be place in a 3-Mile Cube -wrt- the size of the
Earth and would not even make a 'spot' on the Sun.

- Never before in earth's history has a single
- cumulative force been so pervasive and
- so potent.

Nah the Dinosaurs where around for 150M Years.
and Humans so far for less than 50K~250K years.

- It took Nature working 24/7/365 for a half
- billion years to sequester the carbon dioxide
- that humans are releasing in about *one millionth*
- that amount of time. Nothing like this has ever
- happened,

At least not that Mankind in it's short existence
on Earth knows about so far.

- not by the combined effects of volcanoes,
- hurricanes or erosion. Ever.

The things I have hear and read about Volcanoes
would show that they can have more impact than
Mankind; with respect to putting Gases into the
Earths Atmosphere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_eruption_of_Krakatoa

- The near spontaneous and instantaneous release
- of this CO2 is the problem, and to minimize this
- unprecedented alteration of the atmosphere's
- radiation balance is the literal version of the
- mythic ostrich with head-in-sand.

BpnJ - "spontaneous and instantaneous" started
around the industrial age and continues today.

Plus within 10~20~30 Years* the number of Private
Cars in China will equal or exceed the number in
the USA and may be Europe added in too.
* Can India be far behind . . .

- Deny all you like...if carte blanche to profit
- and continued reckless gross consumption
- are more important than the health of this,
- the only tiny planetary home we have.

BpnJ do you Heat your Home for Profit ?
BpnJ do you tune-on a Light for Profit ?
BpnJ do you Cook your Food for Profit ?
BpnJ do you Drive your Car for Profit ?
no, No. NO ! these are all things that you
do : JUST TO LIVE YOUR DAILY LIFE [.]
Yeah someone else may make a profit off
of them -but- you do them to live, and so
your family can live too.

What We Got Here Is Gross Over Population of
The Planet and Excessive Use of the Earth's
Natural Resources :
-read-it-again-

dave

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Sep 19, 2010, 10:14:08 AM9/19/10
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bpnjensen wrote:

>
> Most gay activists are fighting AGAINST institutionalized fascism.
> The people RHF cites as having been on TV and in your face may be
> obnoxious, weird and downright offensive (depending on your POV), and
> a whole bunch of other things too, but "fascists" is not likely one of
> them.

Anybody who can make Roy uncomfortable is OK by me. While he is
"shocked" by queers on TV, he is oblivious to the real crminals robbing
him blind.

dave

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Sep 19, 2010, 10:16:24 AM9/19/10
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bpnjensen wrote:
> On Sep 18, 11:01 pm, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:

>
> Ah, but there is the rub. Your claim is in error.

>


> Deny all you like...if carte blanche to profit and continued reckless
> gross consumption are more important than the health of this, the only
> tiny planetary home we have.

If we are not willing to sacrifice NOW there will be NO CHANCE to stop
what's coming. We will HATE ourseves for not at least trying.

Consumerism

or Survival

?

dave

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Sep 19, 2010, 10:18:36 AM9/19/10
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John Smith wrote:

>
> Used to be Angels, then the homosexuals demanded equal rights. Now they
> dance the heads of pins ... other things too.
>
> Regards,
> JS

"Methinks the lady doth..."

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