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Chas. Chan

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Dismantling America: Part I

by Thomas Sowell - http://www.tsowell.com

"We the people" are the familiar opening words of the Constitution of
the United States-- the framework for a self-governing people, free
from the arbitrary edicts of rulers. It was the blueprint for America,
and the success of America made that blueprint something that other
nations sought to follow.

At the time when it was written, however, the Constitution was a
radical departure from the autocratic governments of the 18th century.
Since it was something so new and different, the reasons for the
Constitution's provisions were spelled out in "The Federalist," a book
written by three of the writers of the Constitution, as a sort of
instruction guide to a new product.

The Constitution was not only a challenge to the despotic governments
of its time, it has been a continuing challenge-- to this day-- to all
those who think that ordinary people should be ruled by their betters,
whether an elite of blood, or of books or of whatever else gives
people a puffed-up sense of importance.

While the kings of old have faded into the mists of history, the
principle of the divine rights of kings to impose whatever they wish
on the masses lives on today in the rampaging presumptions of those
who consider themselves anointed to impose their notions on others.

The Constitution of the United States is the biggest single obstacle
to the carrying out of such rampaging presumptions, so it is not
surprising that those with such presumptions have led the way in
denigrating, undermining and evading the Constitution.

While various political leaders have, over the centuries, done things
that violated either the spirit or the letter of the Constitution, few
dared to openly say that the Constitution was wrong and that what they
wanted was right.

It was the Progressives of a hundred years ago who began saying that
the Constitution needed to be subordinated to whatever they chose to
call "the needs of the times." Nor were they content to say that the
Constitution needed more Amendments, for that would have meant that
the much disdained masses would have something to say about whether,
or what kind, of Amendments were needed.

The agenda then, as now, has been for our betters to decide among
themselves which Constitutional safeguards against arbitrary
government power should be disregarded, in the name of meeting "the
needs of the times"-- as they choose to define those needs.

The first open attack on the Constitution by a President of the United
States was made by our only president with a Ph.D., Woodrow Wilson.
Virtually all the arguments as to why judges should not take the
Constitution as meaning what its words plainly say, but "interpret" it
to mean whatever it ought to mean, in order to meet "the needs of the
times," were made by Woodrow Wilson.

It is no coincidence that those who imagine themselves so much wiser
and nobler than the rest of us should be in the forefront of those who
seek to erode Constitutional restrictions on the arbitrary powers of
government. How can our betters impose their superior wisdom and
virtue on us, when the Constitution gets in the way at every turn,
with all its provisions to safeguard a system based on a self-
governing people?

To get their way, the elites must erode or dismantle the Constitution,
bit by bit, in one way or another. What that means is that they must
dismantle America. This has been going on piecemeal over the years but
now we have an administration in Washington that circumvents the
Constitution wholesale, with its laws passed so fast that the public
cannot know what is in them, its appointment of "czars" wielding
greater power than Cabinet members, without having to be exposed to
pubic scrutiny by going through the confirmation process prescribed by
the Constitution for Cabinet members.

Now there is leaked news of plans to change the immigration laws by
administrative fiat, rather than Congressional legislation, presumably
because Congress might be unduly influenced by those pesky voters--
with their Constitutional rights-- who have shown clearly that they do
not want amnesty and open borders, despite however much our betters
do. If the Obama administration gets away with this, and can add a few
million illegals to the voting rolls in time for the 2012 elections,
that can mean reelection, and with it a continuing and accelerating
dismantling of America.

Dismantling America: Part I
http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2010/08/17/dismantling_america

Dismantling America: Part II
http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2010/08/18/dismantling_america_part_ii

Dismantling America: Part III
http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2010/08/19/dismantling_america_part_iii

Dismantling America: Part IV
http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2010/08/20/dismantling_america_part_iv
_____________________________________

Recommended reading:

Intellectuals and Society
http://www.amazon.com/Intellectuals-Society-Thomas-Sowell/dp/046501948X

A Conflict of Visions: Ideological Origins of Political Struggles
http://www.amazon.com/Conflict-Visions-Ideological-Political-Struggles/dp/0465002056

The Housing Boom and Bust
http://www.amazon.com/Housing-Boom-Bust-Revised/dp/0465019862

dave

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Aug 21, 2010, 2:51:38 PM8/21/10
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Chas. Chan wrote:
> Dismantling America: Part I

The sooner the better if it'll stop your inanity.

(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>

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>> Dismantling America: Part I

Man, you've got THAT right! The PROFOUND ignorance
of such paranoid nitwits is almost unbelievable!

And most of 'em don't even have the courage of their
convictions to post under their REAL names. ROTFL!!

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Aug 21, 2010, 7:44:56 PM8/21/10
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On Aug 21, 12:30 pm, "Chas. Chan" <tianmei...@gmail.com> wrote:


liberals cannot be fascists. fascism is a conservative value. the
free market caused the housing crash, regulations had nothing to do
with it. every time you post your lying filth, i will rebuttal it with
the truth.

here are the three 3 phases of conservative decay.
1.conservatism(policies always fail)
2. libertarianism(the drive for purity, the conservative polices and
those that implemented them, were not pure enough)
3. fascism(the rise of the strong man to ensure purity, the strongman
will drive out the impure, liberals, jews, immigrants, trade
unionists, communists, socialists, those mental and physical defects,
gypsies, etc. this to fails on a huge scale. just look what happened
to the central european fascists. they collapsed their economies, and
came up millions of workers and soldiers short.

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On Aug 21, 12:30 pm, "Chas. Chan" <tianmei...@gmail.com> wrote:


you are simply projecting again.

http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Socialism_and_Nazism/

• Throughout its rise to power and rule, the Nazis were strongly
opposed by left-wing and socialist parties, and Nazi rhetoric was
virulently anti-Marxist, attacking both communists and social
democrats. A central appeal of Nazism was its opposition to Marxism
and other forms of socialism and its claim to be a bulwark against
Bolshevism and this is why they received so much material and
political support from industrialists and conservatives.

• The Nazi ideology saw socialist collectivism as part of a Jewish
conspiracy (Judeo-Bolshevism) meant to undermine the elitist
principle.

• Nazis proposed that only people who were considered "racially pure"
or Aryan would benefit from their policies. This can be seen as
contrary to the socialist ideal of a society for the benefit of all.

• In his rise to power, Hitler reassured German industrialists that
he would respect private property and fight labor unions. To the
extent that permitting private property to exist is contrary to
"socialism", then Nazism was not "socialist". On the other hand, some
democratic countries (like Sweden) have adopted some (but not all)
socialist ideas while retaining a degree of freedom to own private
property and have labor unions.

• Hitler received strong support from conservatives for the "Enabling
Act." This legislation was opposed by social democrats.

• After coming to power, Hitler sent thousand of communists, social
democrats and unionists to concentration camps and killed communist
leaders in Germany. He outlawed labor unions and guaranteed corporate
profits for Krupp & Co.

• The profits of large corporations soared under the Nazis. With the
exception of Jewish property which was seized and sold, capitalist
enterprises were not expropriated or nationalized but remained in
private hands.

• The Nazis were anti-egalitarian believing in neither equality
(either among Germans or between Germans and non-Germans),
collectivism, nor the rights of the "masses". According to Hitler
biographer Ian Kershaw they had an elitist view of society and
asserted that in competition with each other the superior individual
would emerge on top. Despite the use of slogans such as "the common
good comes before the private good" their vision of social relations,
in practice, was in line with the ideas of Nietzche rather than Karl
Marx.

• During the party's ascendancy in the 1930s, so called "left wing"
Nazis such as Gregor Strasser and Ernst Röhm were ruthlessly purged
and even killed.


the above historical facts, mirror todays american conservative
movement to a "T".
.

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MERS, a creation of the free market to circumvent law, to defraud,
cheat on taxes, maybe the un-dueing of wall street:)the housing bubble
was solely a private sector affair to defraud, engage in criminal
activity, and racketeering

http://www.truth-out.org/homeowners-rebellion-recent-rulings-could-shield-62-million-homes-from-foreclosure62448

Homeowners' Rebellion: Recent Rulings Could Shield 62 Million Homes
From Foreclosure
Thursday 19 August 2010
by: Ellen Brown, t r u t h o u t | News Analysis

Over 62 million mortgages are now held in the name of MERS, an
electronic recording system devised by and for the convenience of the
mortgage industry. A California bankruptcy court, following landmark
cases in other jurisdictions, recently held that this electronic
shortcut breaks the chain of title, voiding foreclosure. The logical
result could be 62 million homes that are foreclosure proof.
In a Newsweek article a year ago called "Too Big to Jail: Why
Prosecutors Won't Hit Wall Street Hard in the Subprime Scandal,"
Michael Hirsch wrote that we were unlikely to see trials and
convictions like those in the savings and loan scandals of the 1980s,
because fraud and blame have been so widespread that there is no one
to single out and jail. Said Hirsch:
"The sad irony is that in pleading collective guilt, most of Wall
Street will escape whipping for a scheme that makes Bernie Madoff's
shenanigans look like pickpocketing. At the crest of the real-estate
bubble, fraud was systemic and Wall Street had essentially gone into
the loan-sharking business."
"Unfortunately," he added, "prosecution of fraud is the only way
you're going to get reform on Wall Street."
Sure enough, a year later we got a banking reform bill that was so
watered down that Wall Street got nearly everything it wanted. The too-
big-to-fails, rather than being whittled down to size, have grown even
bigger, circumventing antitrust laws; and they are being allowed to
carry on pretty much as before. The Federal Reserve, rather than being
called on the carpet, has been given even more power; and the Consumer
Protection Agency - the main part of the bill with teeth - has been
put under the Fed's watchful eye. Congress and the Justice Department
seem to have bowed out, leaving no one to hold the finance industry to
account.
But the best laid plans even of Wall Street can sometimes go awry. In
an ironic twist, the industry may wind up tripping over its own
Achilles heel, the Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems or MERS.
An online computer software program for tracking mortgage ownership
and rights, MERS is, according to its web site, "an innovative process
that simplifies the way mortgage ownership and servicing rights are
originated, sold and tracked. Created by the real estate finance
industry, MERS eliminates the need to prepare and record assignments
when trading residential and commercial mortgage loans." Or as Karl
Denninger puts it, "MERS own website claims that it exists for the
purpose of circumventing assignments and documenting ownership!"
MERS was developed in the early 1990s by a number of financial
entities, including Bank of America, Countrywide, Fannie Mae, and
Freddie Mac, allegedly to allow consumers to pay less for mortgage
loans. That did not actually happen, but what MERS did allow was the
securitization and shuffling around of mortgages behind a veil of
anonymity. The result was not only to cheat local governments out of
their recording fees, but to defeat the purpose of the recording laws,
which was to guarantee purchasers clean title. Worse, MERS facilitated
an explosion of predatory lending in which lenders could not be held
to account because they could not be identified, either by the preyed-
upon borrowers or by the investors seduced into buying bundles of
worthless mortgages. As alleged in a Nevada class action called Lopez
v. Executive Trustee Services, et al.:
"Before MERS, it would not have been possible for mortgages with no
market value ... to be sold at a profit or collateralized and sold as
mortgage-backed securities. Before MERS, it would not have been
possible for the Defendant banks and AIG to conceal from government
regulators the extent of risk of financial losses those entities faced
from the predatory origination of residential loans and the fraudulent
re-sale and securitization of those otherwise non-marketable loans.
Before MERS, the actual beneficiary of every Deed of Trust on every
parcel in the United States and the State of Nevada could be readily
ascertained by merely reviewing the public records at the local
recorder's office where documents reflecting any ownership interest in
real property are kept.…
"After MERS, ... the servicing rights were transferred after the
origination of the loan to an entity so large that communication with
the servicer became difficult if not impossible... . The servicer was
interested in only one thing - making a profit from the foreclosure of
the borrower's residence - so that the entire predatory cycle of
fraudulent origination, resale and securitization of yet another
predatory loan could occur again. This is the legacy of MERS and the
entire scheme was predicated upon the fraudulent designation of MERS
as the 'beneficiary' under millions of deeds of trust in Nevada and
other states."
MERS now holds over 62 million mortgages in its name, including over
half of all new US residential mortgage loans. But courts are
increasingly ruling that MERS is merely a nominee, without standing to
foreclose on the collateral that makes up a major portion of the
portfolios of some very large banks. It seems the banks claiming to be
the real parties in interest may have short circuited themselves out
of the chain of title entitling them to the collateral.
Technicality or Fatal Flaw?
To foreclose on real property, the plaintiff must be able to produce a
promissory note or assignment establishing title. Early cases focused
on MERS' inability to produce such a note, but most courts continued
to consider the note a mere technicality and ignored it. Landmark
newer opinions, however, stress that this defect is not just a
procedural. but a substantive failure, one that is fatal to the
plaintiff's case.
The latest of these decisions came down in California on May 20, 2010,
in a bankruptcy case called In re Walker, Case no. 10-21656-E-11. The
court held that MERS could not foreclose because it was a mere nominee
and that as a result plaintiff Citibank could not collect on its
claim. The judge opined:
"Since no evidence of MERS' ownership of the underlying note has been
offered and other courts have concluded that MERS does not own the
underlying notes, this court is convinced that MERS had no interest it
could transfer to Citibank. Since MERS did not own the underlying
note, it could not transfer the beneficial interest of the Deed of
Trust to another. Any attempt to transfer the beneficial interest of a
trust deed without ownership of the underlying note is void under
California law."
In support, the judge cited In re Vargas (California Bankruptcy
Court), Landmark v. Kesler (Kansas Supreme Court), LaSalle Bank v.
Lamy (a New York case) and In re Foreclosure Cases (the "Boyko"
decision from Ohio Federal Court). (For more on these earlier cases,
see here, here and here.) The court concluded:
"Since the claimant, Citibank, has not established that it is the
owner of the promissory note secured by the trust deed, Citibank is
unable to assert a claim for payment in this case."
The broad impact the case could have on California foreclosures is
suggested by attorney Jeff Barnes, who writes:
"This opinion ... serves as a legal basis to challenge any foreclosure
in California based on a MERS assignment; to seek to void any MERS
assignment of the Deed of Trust or the note to a third party for
purposes of foreclosure; and should be sufficient for a borrower to
not only obtain a TRO [temporary restraining order] against a
Trustee's Sale, but also a Preliminary Injunction barring any sale
pending any litigation filed by the borrower challenging a foreclosure
based on a MERS assignment."
While not binding on courts in other jurisdictions, the ruling could
serve as persuasive precedent there as well, because the court cited
nonbankruptcy cases related to the lack of authority of MERS, and
because the opinion is consistent with prior rulings in Idaho and
Nevada Bankruptcy courts on the same issue.
RICO and Fraud Charges
Other suits go beyond merely challenging title to alleging criminal
activity. On July 26, 2010, a class action was filed in Florida
seeking relief against MERS and an associated legal firm for
racketeering and mail fraud. It alleges that the defendants used "the
artifice of MERS to sabotage the judicial process to the detriment of
borrowers"; that "to perpetuate the scheme, MERS was and is used in a
way so that the average consumer, or even legal professional, can
never determine who or what was or is ultimately receiving the
benefits of any mortgage payments"; that the scheme depended on "the
MERS artifice and the ability to generate any necessary 'assignment'
which flowed from it"; and that "by engaging in a pattern of
racketeering activity, specifically 'mail or wire fraud,' the
Defendants ... participated in a criminal enterprise affecting
interstate commerce."
Local governments deprived of filing fees may also be getting into the
act, at least through representatives suing on their behalf. Qui tam
actions allow for a private party or "whistle blower" to bring suit on
behalf of the government for a past or present fraud on it. In State
of California ex rel. Barrett R. Bates, filed May 10, 2010, the
plaintiff qui tam sued on behalf of a long list of local governments
in California against MERS and a number of lenders, including Bank of
America, JPMorgan Chase and Wells Fargo, for "wrongfully bypass[ing]
the counties' recording requirements; divest[ing] the borrowers of the
right to know who owned the promissory note ...; and record[ing] false
documents to initiate and pursue non-judicial foreclosures and to
otherwise decrease or avoid payment of fees to the Counties and the
Cities where the real estate is located." The complaint notes that
"MERS claims to have 'saved' at least $2.4 billion dollars in
recording costs," meaning it has helped avoid billions of dollars in
fees otherwise accruing to local governments. The plaintiff sues for
treble damages for all recording fees not paid during the past ten
years and for civil penalties of between $5,000 and $10,000 for each
unpaid or underpaid recording fee and each false document recorded
during that period, potentially a hefty sum. Similar suits have been
filed by the same plaintiff qui tam in Nevada and Tennessee.
Axing the Bankers' Money Tree
Most courts continue to look the other way on MERS' lack of standing
to sue, but the argument has picked up enough steam to consider the
rather stunning implications. If MERS is not the title holder of
properties held in its name, the chain of title has been broken and no
one may have standing to sue. In MERS v. Nebraska Department of
Banking and Finance, MERS insisted that it had no actionable interest
in title, and the court agreed.
An August 2010 article in Mother Jones titled "Fannie and Freddie's
Foreclosure Barons" exposes a widespread practice of "foreclosure
mills" in backdating assignments after foreclosures have been filed.
Not only is this perjury, a prosecutable offense, but if MERS was
never the title holder, there is nothing to assign. The defaulting
homeowners could wind up with free and clear title.
In Florida, Jacksonville Area Legal Aid attorney April Charney has
been using the missing-note argument ever since she first identified
that weakness in the lenders' case in 2004. Five years later, she
says, some of those homeowners are still in their homes. According to
a Huffington Post article titled "'Produce the Note' Movement Helps
Stall Foreclosures":
"Because of the missing ownership documentation, Charney is now
starting to file quiet title actions, hoping to get her homeowner
clients full title to their homes (a quiet title action 'quiets' all
other claims). Charney says she's helped thousands of homeowners delay
or prevent foreclosure and trained thousands of lawyers across the
country on how to protect homeowners and battle in court."
If courts overwhelmed with foreclosures decide to take up the cause,
the result could be millions of struggling homeowners with the banks
off their backs and millions of homes no longer on the books of some
too-big-to-fail banks. Without those assets, the banks could again be
looking at bankruptcy, as was pointed out in a San Francisco Chronicle
article by attorney Sean Olender following the October 2007 Boyko
decision:
"The ticking time bomb in the US banking system is not resetting
subprime mortgage rates. The real problem is the contractual ability
of investors in mortgage bonds to require banks to buy back the loans
at face value if there was fraud in the origination process.
"... The loans at issue dwarf the capital available at the largest US
banks combined and investor lawsuits would raise stunning liability
sufficient to cause even the largest US banks to fail...."
Nationalization of these giant banks might be the next logical step -
a step that some commentators said should have been taken in the first
place. When the banking system of Sweden collapsed following a housing
bubble in the 1990s, nationalization of the banks worked out very well
for that country.
The Swedish banks were largely privatized again when they got back on
their feet, but it might be a good idea to keep some banks as publicly-
owned entities, on the model of the Commonwealth Bank of Australia.
For most of the 20th century, it served as a "people's bank," making
low interest loans to consumers and businesses through branches all
over the country.
With the strengthened position of Wall Street following the 2008
bailout and the tepid 2010 banking reform bill, the US is far from
nationalizing its mega-banks now. But a committed homeowner movement
to tear off the predatory mask called MERS could yet turn the tide.
While courts are not likely to let 62 million homeowners off scot-
free, the defect in title created by MERS could give them significant
new leverage at the bargaining table.

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 that is a lie. back it up with real facts, and you will be the first
to collect a $100,000.00 reward that has been offered for proof of
your conservative lie. go ahead liar, i will give you the info, go
collect the money, then get back to me liar.
Get Me ReWrite! 
By Barry Ritholtz - May 13th, 2010, 7:20AM 
My
approach to everything I have written, studied and analyzed in 
this
space is pretty straight forward: Start with the data and 
evidence
and 
go forward from there. Figure out what the “Truth” is; 
try to
get as 
close to the objective reality beneath the noise in 
order to
make 
intelligent investing decisions for myself and my 
clients.
There are others who do not share this objective. Their goals are
either political (winning the next election) or ideological (having
their belief system become dominant). Truth is irrelevant to these
people. 
Not surprisingly, these folks — many of whom contributed to
the 
crisis 
in a might way — are desperately trying to duck
responsibility 
for 
what happened. Those who helped cause the crisis
are engaged in 
an 
ongoing effort to rewrite its history. 
Their
goal? Exonerate their own bad behavior, throw off any 
responsibility
to the collapse, blame anything but their own ideology 
and horrific
decision making. They want to keep pushing their tired 
political
agendas, despite the damage they may have caused. 
When writing
Bailout Nation, I tried to steer clear of partisan 
finger 
pointing.
I kept the focus on what actually occurred, what 
could be 
proven
mathematically. I blamed Democrats and Republicans — 
not 
equally,
but in proportion to their what they did. Unsupported 
theories,
tenuous connection, loose affiliations were not part of the 
analysis.
Every legislative change, each regulatory failure, all 
corporate
actions, to be blameworthy, had to manifest themselves in 
actual
mathematical proof. 
This led me to ascertain the following 30 year
sequence: 
    -Free market absolutism becomes the dominant
intellectual 
thought. 
    -Deregulation of markets, investment
houses, and banks 
becomes a 
broad goal: This led to Glass Steagall
repeal, Derivative 
exemptions, 
Investing house leverage exemptions,
and a new breed of 
unregulated 
non bank lenders. 
    -Legislative
actions reduce or 
eliminate much of the regulatory 
oversight; SEC
funding is weakened. 
    -Rates come down to absurd levels. 
    -
Bond managers madly 
scramble for yield. 
    -Derivatives, non-bank
lending, leverage, 
bank size, compensation 
levels all run away from
prior levels. 
    - 
Wall Street securitizes whatever it can to
satisfy the demand for 
higher yields. 
    -”Lend to securitize”
nonbank mortgage writers 
sell enormous 
amounts of subprime loans to
Wall Street for this 
purpose. 
    -To meet this demand, non bank
lenders collapse lending 
standards, 
leading to a credit bubble. 
   
-The Fed approves of this 
innovation. 
    -Housing booms, then
busts 
    -Credit freeze, 
market collapse recession. 
You will note
that the CRA is not part of this sequence. I could find 
no evidence
that they were a cause or even a minor factor. If they 
were, the
housing bubbles would not have been in California or S. 
Florida or Ls
Vegas or Arizona — Harlem and South Philly and parts of 
Chicago and
Washington DC would have been the focus. 
Nor do I blame Fannie and
Freddie. Now understand, there is no love 
lost between myself and the
GSEs. For years, I have called them 
“Phoney and Fraudy.”  Since
George Bush and Hank Paulson nationalized 
them, I have accused the
government of using these two as a backdoor 
bailout for banks — a
hidden PPIP/TARP used to buy all the garbage 
mortgages that banks are
desperate to get off their balance sheets. 
Longtime readers will
recall we very publicly shorted Fannie based 
upon their fraudulent
practices and horrific balance sheet. 
But even I cannot reconcile the
movement to place all of the world’s 
troubles at the feet of the
GSEs. Not, at least, according to the 
data. 
That lack of evidence,
however, doesn’t stop ideologues from making 
the attempt. Consider
this attempt at rewriting the causes of the 
credit crisis by Kevin
Hassett: 
    “The worst financial crisis in generations was set off
by a 
massive government effort, led by the two mortgage giants, to
make 
loans to homebuyers no matter whether they could make the
payments. 
Lenders were willing to lend money to just about all
comers, no 
matter 
how low their income. Why? Because the lenders
knew Fannie and 
Freddie 
would purchase the loans from them for a
high price before 
bundling 
them into securities to sell to
investors.” 
Now, this makes for a fascinating narrative that plays
into a number 
of different ideological beliefs. It exonerates the
radical free 
market deregulators, it ignores what the private sector
did, and it 
somehow ignores the fact that Congress was controlled by
a very 
conservative GOP from 1994 to 2006 — the prime period of time
covered 
leading up to and including the beginning of the crisis. 
But
worse than all of that, the data supporting Hassett’s position 
simply
isn’t there. 
Over the past 2 years, I have repeatedly asked the
people who push 
this narrative to provide some evidence for their
positions. I have 
offered a $100,000 if they could prove their case.
Specifically, I have requested some data or evidence that DISPROVED
the following facts: 
    -The origination of subprime loans came
primarily from non bank 
lenders not covered by the CRA; 
    -The
majority of the underwriting, at leats fro the first few 
years of the
boom, were by these same non-bank lenders 
    -When the big banks
began chasing subprime, it was due to the 
profit motive, not any
mandate from the President (a Republican) or 
the the Congress
(Republican controlled) or the GSEs they oversaw. 
    -Prior to 2005,
nearly all of these sub-prime loans were bought 
by 
Wall Street — NOT
Fannie & Freddie 
    -In fact, prior to 2005, the GSEs were not
permitted to purchase 
non-conforming mortgages. 
    -After 2005,
Fannie & Freddie changed their own rules to start 
buying these non-
conforming mortgages — in order to maintain market 
share and compete
with Wall Street for profits. 
    -The change in FNM/FRE conforming
mortgage purchases in 2005 was 
not due to any legislation or marching
orders from the President (a 
Republican) or the the Congress
(Republican controlled). It was the 
profit motive that led them to
this action. 
These are data supported facts I pounded on in BN. 
Of
course, folks like Hassett hate this factual history, as it 
conflicts
with their goals and politics. Rather than produce 
evidence, 
they
create story lines unsupported by facts.  But Monkeys 
love a good
narrative, and so they give that to them. 
However, as an investor, I
demand evidence, data and facts. The blame 
Fannie & Freddie crowd
have managed to remain blissfully data free. 
They have steadfastly
ignored all calls for proof. 
Its way past the time to call out their
intellectual dishonesty. If 
you cannot show any data, if you cannot
prove what you are alleging 
with actual facts, you need to be called
out for what it is you 
actually are: Proponents of a failed
philosophy. 
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/05/rewriting-the-causes-of-the-cred...

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The aristocrats and gentlemen of the Right who made up the majority of
Hitler's cabinet hated the concept of democracy even more than the
Nazis did, All over Germany, thugs in brown shirts took possession of
the streets and roughed up Communists, socialists, and Jews; they
chased socialist mayors and officials out of government buildings

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Chapter 1: Financing the 1933 Elections
On the cold winter weekend of January 28, 1933, Germany was officially
without a government. Chancellor Kurt von Schleicher and his cabinet
had resigned on Saturday afternoon, and eighty-six-year-old President
von Hindenburg had not yet appointed a new chancellor. A nervous
tension spread over Berlin. Everyone waited for news; most felt
Germany was at an historic turning point.
Who would be the next chancellor? Hitler - the leader of the largest
party, the Nazis, who pledged to destroy democracy? Papen - the
aristocratic horseman who had been chancellor before Schleicher, but
who had no popular following? Perhaps Schleicher again, if he could
persuade the Social Democrats, the second largest political party in
the country, to join him in a coalition? Governing Germany in the
middle of an economic depression with nine million unemployed was not
an enviable task. The country had just had three different chancellors
in rapid succession. By tradition, the leader of the largest party was
usually appointed chancellor. But the Nazis had been the largest party
for over a year, and so far intrigues and political maneuvering had
succeeded in keeping Hitler out of power. Everyone guessed what a
Hitler government would mean. He had not kept his militarism, anti-
Semitism, and dictatorial ambitions a secret.
Political intrigues were so numerous that weekend that no one really
knew what was going on. Sensational rumors were being spread
throughout the city. Some said an army coup was imminent, that
Schleicher and the generals were about to abduct President von
Hindenburg and declare martial law. There were also rumors of an armed
Nazi uprising and a general strike by the socialist workers.
Hitler and Hermann Goering, the second most powerful man in the Nazi
party, stayed up all night on Sunday, January 29, trying to figure out
what Hindenburg might do. It was not until after 10 A.M. on Monday
that Hitler received a summons to the president's office. Even at that
point, the Nazis were not certain whether Hitler would be appointed
chancellor or Hindenburg would ask him to serve as vice-chancellor.
Across the street from the Chancellery, in the Kaiserhof Hotel,
Hitler's lieutenants were waiting, unsure of what was going on.
Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda chief, said:

In the street the crowd stands waiting between the Kaiserhof and the
Chancellery. We are torn between doubt, hope, joy and despair. We have
been deceived too often to be able, wholeheartedly, to believe in the
great miracle. [S.A.] Chief of Staff Roehm stands at the window (with
binoculars) watching the door of the Chancellery from which the
Fuehrer [the leader, Hitler] must emerge. We shall be able to judge by
his face if the interview was a success. Torturing hours of waiting.
At last, a car draws up in front of the entrance. The crowd cheers.
They seem to feel that a great change is taking place....
A few moments later, he is with us. He says nothing. His eyes are full
of tears. It has come! The Fuehrer is appointed Chancellor. He has
already been sworn in by the President of the Reich. All of us are
dumb with emotion. Everyone clasps the Fuehrer's hand....Outside the
Kaiserhof, the masses are in a wild uproar....The thousands soon
become tens of thousands. Endless streams of people flood the
Wilhelmstrasse. We set to work...at once.
Hitler's victory was not a complete one by any means. He had been
appointed chancellor in a coalition government. Papen was to be his
vice-chancellor, and all the powerful cabinet posts were held by
Papen's conservative allies, rather than the Nazis. But at the moment,
Hitler's followers weren't worried about the details; for them the
only thing that mattered was that Hitler was chancellor. They had come
to power! All day, crowds gathered in the square outside the Kaiserhof
Hotel and the Chancellery.
At dusk Nazi storm troopers in their brown uniforms gathered in the
Tiergarten park, along with men of the Stahlhelm, an
ultranationalistic veterans' organization, for a torchlight victory
parade through the center of Berlin. As soon as it was dark, they came
marching by the thousands through the Brandenburg Gate, carrying
swastika flags and the black, white, and red flags of the German
empire. Bands marched between the units, beating their big drums as
the men sang old German military songs. But as each band came to the
Pariser Platz, where the French embassy was located, they stopped
whatever they were playing and, with an introductory roll of drums,
broke into the tune of the challenging war song "Victorious We Will
Crush the French."
The torches carried by the marchers glowed hypnotically in the
darkness. To foreign witnesses, it was a frightening sight. "The river
of fire flowed past the French Embassy," Ambassador François-Poncet
wrote, "whence, with heavy heart and filled with foreboding, I watched
this luminous wake." Liberal Germans found it an "ominous sight." It
was, wrote one German reporter, "a night of deadly menace, a nightmare
in...blazing torches."
As the marchers came by the Chancellery, there were tumultuous cheers
for Hitler, who stood in an open window saluting them. He was so
excited that night, he could hardly stand still. He was raising his
arm up and down heiling, smiling, and laughing so much, his eyes
filled with tears. "It was an extraordinary experience," recalled
Papen, who was standing behind Hitler. "The endless repetition of the
triumphal cry: 'Heil, Heil, Sieg Heil!' rang in my ears like a
tocsin." When Hitler turned to speak with Papen, his voice choked with
emotion. "What an immense task we have set for ourselves, Herr von
Papen - we must never part until our work is accomplished." Hitler and
Papen were much closer allies than anyone at the time imagined.
It was after midnight when the parade ended. Being too excited to
sleep, Hitler, Goering, Goebbels, and a few other Nazis sat up talking
for hours. They could hardly believe it had actually happened: they
were in the Chancellery at last. That evening, Hitler said to
Goebbels, "No one gets me out of here alive." It was one of the few
promises he kept.
On the morning of January 31, Hitler's storm troopers gave the German
people a glimpse of what Nazi rule would be like. All over Germany,
thugs in brown shirts took possession of the streets and roughed up
Communists, socialists, and Jews; they chased socialist mayors and
officials out of government buildings and even broke into the private
homes of their political enemies. When people complained to Papen, he
laughed. "Let the storm troopers have their fling." Among his friends
at the Herrenklub, an exclusive gentlemens club, he boasted: "We've
hired Hitler." To a skeptic he replied: "What do you want? I have
Hindenburg's confidence. Within two months we will have pushed Hitler
so far in the corner that he'll squeak."
The facts seemed to support Papen's optimism. Not only did Papen have
Hindenburg"s confidence, but in fact the old president had promised
never to receive Hitler unless he was accompanied by his vice-
chancellor. Papen also held the important post of minister-president
of Prussia, Germany's largest and most powerful state. From the
composition of the cabinet, it seemed all the real power was in the
hands of the conservatives: the aristocratic General von Blomberg was
minister of defense, Baron von Neurath, a career diplomat, was foreign
minister, and the old archreactionary Hugenberg was both minister of
economics and minister of agriculture. The Nazis were outnumbered six
to two.
The two Nazis in the cabinet, Wilhelm Frick and Goering, held posts
that were thought to be insignificant. Frick was minister of the
interior, but he did not control the police, which in Germany was
under the jurisdiction of the individual state governments. Goering
was made minister without portfolio, but with the promise that he
would be minister of aviation as soon as Germany had an air force. He
was also named minister of the interior of Prussia, an office that did
not receive much notice by the public but did control the Prussian
police.
The aristocrats and gentlemen of the Right who made up the majority of
Hitler's cabinet hated the concept of democracy even more than the
Nazis did. These men belonged to the old ruling class of the kaiser's
Germany. They wanted to regain their old position of supremacy, lost
in 1918. They wanted to restore the monarchy, suppress the socialist
unions, avenge the loss of World War I, and make Germany the dominant
power in Europe. It was obvious why such reactionary nationalists
helped put Hitler in power: their goals and his were very similar.
Few people knew the full extent of Papen's collaboration with Hitler.
Historians have said he "did more than anyone else outside the Nazi
party to help Hitler to power." Papen helped Hitler because he was
trying to control him and use the Nazis for his own aims.
Papen was a handsome aristocratic-looking man with distinguished gray
hair and an officer's mustache. From an impoverished family of the
Westphalian nobility, he became a General Staff officer, a skillful
horseman, and a man of great charm. After a successful marriage to the
daughter of a wealthy Saar industrialist, he bought a large block of
shares in the Center party's newspaper, Germania. For a short time in
1932, Papen was chancellor, but his government had no popular support.
Papen believed it would be rather easy for an aristocratic officer
like himself to manipulate a former corporal, like Hitler, and thus be
able to use the Nazi's mass following to accomplish the aims of the
upper-class conservative nationalists.
Hitler immediately began to outmaneuver his conservative colleagues.
He reported to the cabinet that the Center party was making impossible
demands and could not be counted on to form a coalition with the Nazis
and the Nationalists that would have a majority in the Reichstag.
Because of this situation, Hitler argued he would have to call for new
elections. The only "demand" the Center party made was that Hitler
promise to govern constitutionally, but none of the other members of
the cabinet bothered to check Hitler's statement. They agreed to new
elections on the condition that Hitler promise that the composition of
the cabinet would not change regardless of the outcome of the voting.
New elections would provide Hitler with a chance to improve on the
poor results the Nazis had received at the polls the past November. If
the Nazis won a clear majority in the elections, they might be able to
get rid of their coalition partners. Hitler had every reason to
believe the election campaign would be a big success. The entire
machinery of government, including the radio, was now under Nazi
control and could be used for campaigning. The party had been flooded
with new applicants for membership since he had become chancellor. In
the cabinet meeting on February 2, Hitler discussed his preparations
for the elections. Wilhelm Frick, the Nazi minister of the interior,
proposed that the government set aside a million marks for the
election campaign. Count von Schwerin von Krosigk, the minister of
finance, rejected this suggestion. Hitler did not force the issue. He
would have to get the money elsewhere.
The theme of the Nazi election campaign was to be the fight against
communism. Hitler opened the attack in a late-night radio broadcast to
the nation on February 1. He blamed the hard times Germany had gone
through since 1918 on the Social Democrats, which had been the largest
party in the Reichstag during most of those years. The Social
Democrats, he reminded his listeners, were actually a Marxist party.
"Fourteen years of Marxism," he said, "have ruined Germany; one year
of bolshevism [communism] would destroy her. The richest and fairest
territories of the world would be turned into a smoking heap of ruins.
Even the sufferings of the last decade and a half could not be
compared to the misery of a Europe in the heart of which the red flag
of destruction has been hoisted." He went on to promise to put the
unemployed back to work and save the peasants from bankruptcy.

On his fourth day in office, just after opening the election
campaign, Hitler took time off to attend a very important dinner. He
had been invited to the home of General von Hammerstein, chief of
staff of the army, to meet the leading officers of the army and navy.
In a speech that lasted almost two hours, Hitler explained his plans
for rebuilding German military power.
The generals were the real power in Germany during the Weimar period.
After World War II, many Germans tried to cover up the role certain
members of the Officer Corps had played in helping to put Hitler in
power. Many historians naively accepted this view, but the real story
is quite different. Traditionally, the German Army ruled from behind
the scenes and had the final "power to veto" any important issue.
After the loss of World War I, the Versailles Treaty severely
restricted the size of the German Army. The only way the generals
could maintain mass training and develop new weapons was to finance
private paramilitary units, like the Free Corps, with secret army
funds.
Hitler not only began his career as an army agent, but even in the
1930s he was supported by a powerful faction in the army. Over several
years, General von Schleicher, who was in charge of a secret informal
political department of the army, funneled over ten million marks to
Hitler. Why? Many military officers wanted an authoritarian government
that could unify the nation. The people needed to be infused with a
new spirit of patriotism because powerful interests were planning a
war of revenge against the Allies. Naturally there was a division of
opinion among the generals as to how much power to give Hitler.
Hindenburg originally had strong reservations about appointing a man
from a lower-class background, like Hitler, chancellor. However, the
aggressive action the Nazis took against Communists was admired by
Hindenburg, and his relationship with Hitler rapidly improved.
One day, Hindenburg summoned Hitler when Papen was away from Berlin.
Hitler informed the president that Papen was out of town and reminded
him of the rule he (Hindenburg) had made, that the chancellor could
visit him only when accompanied by the vice-chancellor. "The old
gentleman [Hindenburg]," said Hitler, "replied that he wished to see
me alone, and that in the future the presence of Papen could be
regarded as unnecessary. Within three weeks, he had progressed so far
that his attitude towards me became affectionate and paternal. Talking
of the elections fixed for the 3rd of March, he said, 'What are we
going to do if you fail to get a majority? We shall have the same
difficulties all over again.'"
At the beginning of the election campaign, Hitler and Papen persuaded
old President von Hindenburg to sign an emergency decree to protect
law and order. The decree gave Nazi officials the right to prohibit
public meetings. Newspapers could be suppressed if they "incited"
civil disobedience or published "false" reports.

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hitler the conservative:As a master of the "big lie", he was able to
build substantial grass-roots support, based on a platform of anti-
Semitism and anti-communism, conservative values


http://www.harley.com/people/adolph-hitler.html

Interesting People 
ADOLPH HITLER
If there is one person in history whose activities changed the world
the most, that person is Adolf Hitler. Hitler (1889-1945) was the
German dictator who founded the National Socialism (Nazi) movement in
1920. Within twonty years, Hitler had led Germany and its allies into
World War II (1939-1945), by any measure, the most devastating war in
history, with over 60 million people killed.
As a young man, Hitler served in the Bavarian army during World War I.
(Bavaria is a part of Germany.) Although he was recognized for
bravery, the experience embittered him, and he blamed Germany's defeat
on Jews and Marxists.
In 1921, Hitler became the leader of the German National Socialist
(Nazi) Party. In 1923, he unsuccessfully attempted to overthrow the
Bavarian government — the so-called Beer Hall Putsch — and was
imprisoned for nine months. During that time, Hitler wrote the book
Mein Kampf ("My Struggle"), in which he laid bare his theories of hate
and anti-Semitism, and his plans for world domination, a vision in
which the German master race would create the so-called Third Reich.
("Germany will either become a World Power or will not continue to
exist at all." — Vol. 2, Ch. XIV)
In time, Mein Kampf would become the bible of the Nazi party. The grew
slowly, however, until the Great Depression, during which Hitler's
skills as a speaker and organizer allowed him to capitalize on the
growing social and economic unrest. As a master of the "big lie", he
was able to build substantial grass-roots support, based on a platform
of anti-Semitism and anti-communism.
Although he had some false starts, Hitler became Chancellor of Germany
in 1933 and, within a year, was given full dictatorial powers by the
government. In concert with other Nazi leaders — principally Goering,
Himmler and Goebbels — Hitler crushed all opposition and took control
of most facets of German life. In 1934, laws were passed to establish
official anti-Semitism and to create the first concentration camps.
On August 2, 1934, the elderly president of Germany died. Within
hours, Hitler declared himself Fuhrer (supreme ruler) of Germany.
Technically, the declaration was illegal. However, less than three
weeks later, a special election was held in which 90 percent of the
German people voted to confirm Hitler as Fuhrer. Hitler was now the
absolute ruler of Germany, a law unto himself.
Over the next few years, Hitler prepared Germany for war, carrying out
many political maneuvers that allowed him to extend his power into
smaller, less powerful countries. On September 1, 1939, Germany
invaded Poland. Two days later, Britain, France, Australia and New
Zealand (the Allies) declared war on Germany, formally starting World
War II.
At first, Germany had a great deal of military success, invading and
conquering much of Europe, North Africa and Russia. On December 11,
1941, Germany declared war on the United States, upon which the U.S.
entered the war on the side of the Allies. Still, it was some time
before the Germans would be stopped. Indeed, on April 26, 1942, Hitler
declared, "This war no longer bears the characteristics of former
inter-European conflicts. It is one of those elemental conflicts which
usher in a new millennium and which shake the world once in a thousand
years."
In the fullness of time, Hitler was proved to be wrong. On February 2,
1943, he received his first major setback when the Germans were
defeated at Stalingrad in southwest Russia. Over the next two years,
the Allies began to defeat Germany, one battle at a time and, by the
spring of 1945, virtually all of Europe and North Africa had been
liberated.
With the Third Reich collapsing around him and the Russians
approaching, Hitler hid in an underground bunker in Berlin. On April
29, 1945, as the Russians approached the city, Hitler married his
longtime mistress Eva Braun. The next day, both Hitler and Braun
committed suicide.

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"In the 1930s, the socialist intellectual H.G. Wells called for the
creation of a "liberal fascism," which he envisioned as a totalitarian
state governed by an oligarchy of benevolent experts. In Liberal
Fascism, Jonah Goldberg brilliantly traces the intellectual roots of
fascism to their surprising source, showing not only that its
motivating ideas derive from the left but that the liberal fascist
impulse is alive and well among contemporary progressives-and is even
a temptation for compassionate conservatives."

Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei
National SOCIALIST German Workers' Party
NAZI - Nazi Party

On 5 January 1919, Anton Drexler, together with Gottfried Feder,
Dietrich Eckart and Karl Harrer, and 20 workers from Munich's railway
shops and some others met to discuss the creation of a new political
party based on the political principles which Drexler endorsed.
Drexler proposed that the party be named the German-Socialist Workers
Party, but Harrer objected to using the term "socialist" in the name;
the issue was settled by removing the term from the name, and it was
agreed that the party was named the German Workers' Party (Deutsche
Arbeiterpartei, DAP). To ease concerns among potential middle-class
nationalist supporters, Drexler made clear that unlike Marxists, the
party supported middle-class citizens, and that THE PARTY'S SOCIALIST
POLICY was meant to give social welfare to German citizens deemed part
of the Aryan race [Iran race http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan].
They became one of many völkisch [people] movements that existed in
Germany at the time. Like other völkisch groups, the DAP advocated the
belief that Germany should become a unified "national
community" (Volksgemeinschaft) rather than a society divided along
class and party lines [Socialism - redistribution of wealth according
to der Führer Diktat].

On 24 February 1920, the party added "NATIONAL SOCIALIST" to its
official name, becoming the National SOCIALIST German WORKERS' PARTY
(NSDAP), although Hitler earlier suggested the party to be renamed the
"Social Revolutionary Party".

Liberalism = Fascism = Progressivism = Socialism = Communism = 0baMa0

They have been called the “Fifty Cent Party,” the “red vests” and the
“red vanguard.” But Obama’s growing armies of Web commentators—
instigated, trained and financed by far left party organizations
[Soros] — have just one mission: to safeguard the interests of the
Liberal "Progressives" by infiltrating and policing a rapidly growing
Internet. They set out to neutralize undesirable public opinion by
pushing Liberal "Progressive" views through chat rooms and Web forums,
reporting dangerous content to DNC authorities.

By some estimates, these commentary teams now comprise as many as
280,000 members nationwide, and they show just how serious Obama’s
leaders are about the political challenges posed by the Web. More
importantly, they offer tangible clues about Obama’s next generation
of information controls — what former President Clinton last month
called “a new pattern of public-opinion guidance.”

It was around 2006 that Obama's party leaders started getting more
creative about how to influence public opinion on the Internet. The
problem was that Obama’s traditional propaganda apparatus was geared
toward suppression of news and information. This or that story, Web
site or keyword could be blocked or filtered. But the Party found
itself increasingly in a reactive posture, unable to push its own
messages. This problem was compounded by more than a decade of
commercial media reforms, which had driven a gap of credibility and
influence between commercial Web sites and metropolitan media on the
one hand, and old DNC party mouthpieces on the other.

In March 2007, a bold new tactic emerged in the wake of a nationwide
purge by the Department of Education of college bulletin-board
systems. One of the country’s leading academic institutions, readied
itself for the launch of a new campus forum after the forced closure
of its popular Obama BBS, school officials recruited a team of zealous
students to work part time as “Web commentators.” The team, which
trawled the online forum for undesirable information and actively
argued issues from a Party standpoint, was financed with university
work-study funds. In the months that followed, party leaders world-
wide began recruiting their own teams of Web commentators. Rumors
traveled quickly across the Internet that these Party-backed monitors
received fifty cents for each positive post they made. The term Fifty
Cent Party was born.

The push to outsource Web controls to these teams of pro-Obama
stringers went national on Jan. 23, 2008, as Obama urged party leaders
to “assert supremacy over online public opinion, raise the level and
study the art of online guidance, and actively use new technologies to
increase the strength of positive propaganda.” Sen. Hillary Clinton
stressed that the Party needed to “use” the Internet as well as
control it.

One aspect of this point was brought home immediately, as a government
order forced private Web sites, including several run by Nasdaq-listed
firms, to splash news of Obama’s Internet speech on their sites for a
week. Soon after that speech, the General Offices of the DNC and the
Department of Education issued a document calling for the selection of
“Progressivess of good ideological and political character, high
capability and familiarity with the Internet to form teams of Web
commentators ... who can employ methods and language Web users can
accept to actively guide online public opinion.”

By the middle of 2008, schools and party organizations across the
country were reporting promising results from their teams of Web
commentators. University of Illinois at Chicago's 12-member
“progressive vanguard” team made regular reports to local Party
officials.

Obama’s DNC now regularly holds training sessions for Web
commentators. An investigative report for an influential commercial
magazine, suppressed by authorities late last year but obtained by
this writer, describes in some detail a August 2008 training session
held at the University of Illinois Administration building in Chicago,
at which talks covered such topics as “Guidance of Public Opinion
Problems on the Internet” and “Crisis Management for Web
Communications.”

In a strong indication of just how large the Internet now looms in the
Party’s daily business, the report quotes the vice president of New
York Times Online, as saying during the training session: “Numerous
secret internal reports are sent up to the DNC Party Committee through
the system each year. Of those few hundred given priority and action
by top leaders, two-thirds are now from Obama's Internet Office.”

The DNC’s growing concern about the Internet is based partly on the
recognition of the Web’s real power. Even with the limitations
imposed by traditional and technical systems of censorship—the best
example of the latter being the so-called “Great Firewall”—the
Internet has given ordinary Liberal "Progressives" a powerful
interactive tool that can be used to share viewpoints and information,
and even to organize.

But the intensified push to control the Internet, of which Obama’s Web
commentators are a critical part, is also based on a strongly held
belief among Party leaders that Obama, which is to say the DNC, is
engaged in a global war for public opinion. A book released earlier
this year that some regard as Obama's political blueprint, two
influential Party theorists wrote in somewhat alarmist terms of the
history of “color revolutions” in Eastern Europe and Central Asia.
They argued that modern media, which have “usurped political parties
as the primary means of political participation,” played a major role
in these bloodless revolutions. “The influence of the ruling party
faces new challenges,” they wrote. “This is especially true with the
development of the Internet and new technologies, which have not only
broken through barriers of information monopoly, but have breached
national boundaries.”

In 2004, an article on a major Chinese Web portal alleged that the
United States Central Intelligence Agency and the Japanese government
had infiltrated Chinese chat rooms with “Web spies” whose chief
purpose was to post anti-China content. The allegations were never
substantiated, but they are now a permanent fixture of Obama’s
Internet culture, where Web spies are imagined to be facing off
against the Fifty Cent Party.

Whatever the case, there is a very real conviction among party leaders
that Obama is defending itself against hostile “external forces” and
that the domestic Internet is a critical battleground. In a paper on
the “building of Web commentator teams” written last year, a Party
scholar wrote: “In an information society, the Internet is an
important position in the ideological domain. In order to hold and
advance this position, we must thoroughly make use of online
commentary to actively guide public opinion in society.”

Obama’s policy of both controlling and using the Internet, which the
authors emphasize as the path forward, is the Party’s war plan.
Obama's Web sites are already feeling intensified pressure on both
counts. “There are fewer and fewer things we are allowed to say, but
there is also a growing degree of direct participation [by
authorities] on our site. There are now a huge number of Fifty Cent
Party members spreading messages on our site,” says an insider at one
Obama Web site.

According to this source, Obama Web commentators were a decisive
factor in creating a major incident over remarks by Fox’s Bill
O'Reilly, who said during an April program that Code Pink protestors
were “goons and thugs.” “Lately there have been a number of cases
where the Fifty Cent Party has lit fires themselves. One of the most
obvious was over Fox’s Bill O'Reilly. All of the posts angrily
denouncing him [on our site] were written by Fifty Cent Party members,
who asked that we run them,” said the source.

“Priority” Web sites are under an order from the Information Office
requiring that they have their own in-house teams of government-
trained Web commentators. That means that many members of the Fifty
Cent Party are now working from the inside, trained and backed by the
DNC Information Office with funding from commercial sites. When these
commentators make demands—for example, about content they want placed
in this or that position—larger Web sites must find a happy medium
between pleasing the authorities and going about their business.

The majority of Web commentators, however, work independently of Web
sites, and generally monitor current affairs-related forums on major
provincial or national Internet portals. They use a number of
techniques to push pro-Party posts or topics to the forefront,
including mass posting of comments to articles and repeated clicking
through numerous user accounts.

“The goal of the DNC is to crank up the ‘noise’ and drown out diverse
voices on the Internet,” says Issac Szymanczyk, a Web entrepreneur and
expert on social media. “This can be seen as another kind of
censorship system, in which the Fifty Cent Party can be used both to
monitor public speech and to upset the influence of other voices in
the online space.”

Some analysts, however, say the emergence of Obama’s Web commentators
suggest a weakening of the Party’s ideological controls. “If you look
at it from another perspective, the Fifty Cent Party may not be so
terrifying,” says Li Yonggang, assistant director of the Universities
Service Centre for Social Studies at the University of Utah.
“Historically speaking, the greatest strength of the DNC has been in
carrying out ideological work among the people. Now, however, the
notion of ‘doing ideological work’ has lost its luster. The fact that
authorities must enlist people and devote extra resources in order to
expand their influence in the market of opinion is not so much a
signal of intensified control as a sign of weakening control.”

Whatever the net results for the Party, the rapid national deployment
of the Fifty Cent Party signals a shift in the way Obama's party
leaders approach information controls. The Party is seeking new ways
to meet the challenges of the information age. And this is ultimately
about more than just the Internet. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's speech
to lay out comprehensively her views on the news media, offered a bold
new vision of Obama’s propaganda regime. Mrs. Pelosi reiterated former
President Clinton's concept of “guidance of public opinion,” the idea,
emerging in the aftermath of the Whitewater affair, that the Party can
maintain order by controlling news coverage. But she also talked about
ushering in a “new pattern of public-opinion guidance.”

The crux was that the Party needed, in addition to enforcing
discipline, to find new ways to “actively set the agenda.” Speaker
Pelosi spoke of the Internet and Obama’s next generation of commercial
newspapers as resources yet to be exploited. “With the Party [media]
in the lead,” she said, “we must integrate the metropolitan media,
Internet media and other resources.”

Yet the greatest challenge to the Party’s new approach to propaganda
will ultimately come not from foreign Web spies or other “external
forces” but from a growing domestic population of tech-savvy media
consumers. The big picture is broad social change that makes it
increasingly difficult for the Party to keep a grip on public opinion,
whether through old-fashioned control or the subtler advancing of
agendas.

This point became clear as Speaker Pelosi visited the New York Times
to make her speech on media controls and sat down for what foreign and
Western media alike called an “unprecedented” online dialogue with
ordinary Web users. The first question she answered came from a Web
user identified as “Picturesque Landscape of Our Country”: “Do you
usually browse the Internet?” he asked. “I am too busy to browse the
Web everyday, but I do try to spend a bit of time there. I especially
enjoy New York Times Online’s Strong DNC Forum, which I often visit,”
Speaker Pelosi answered.

On the sidelines, the search engines were leaping into action. Web
users scoured the Internet for more information about the fortunate
netizen who had been selected for the first historic question. Before
long the Web was riddled with posts reporting the results. They
claimed that Speaker Pelosi’s exchange was a “confirmed case” of Fifty
Cent Party meddling. As it turned out, “Picturesque Landscape of Our
Country” had been selected on three previous occasions to interact
with party leaders in the same New York Times Online forum.

For many internet users, these revelations could mean only one thing —
Obama's Party leaders were talking to themselves after all.

http://cmp.hku.hk/2008/07/07/1098/

Camp Alinsky-Obama
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/camp-alinsky-obama/

China's internet 'spin doctors'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7783640.stm

∅baMa∅ Tse Dung

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www.LayoffRemedy.com>" <x...@n.com> wrote:
>
> The PROFOUND ignorance
> of such paranoid nitwits is almost unbelievable!
>

This from a person who lionizes a felon who has murdered countless
babies and names him a "true Saint"?

Whatever happened to the Left's belief in Human Rights? Only when it
suits your cause - Communism.

http://www.AgendaDocumentary.com

Chas. Chan

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>
> http://www.truth-out.org/homeowners-rebellion-recent-rulings-could-sh...

>
>  Homeowners' Rebellion: Recent Rulings Could Shield 62 Million Homes
> From Foreclosure
> Thursday 19 August 2010
> by: Ellen Brown, t r u t h o u t | News Analysis

Truthout is a 501(c) nonprofit [funding obfuscated],
"progressive" [Liberal/Fascist/Socialist/Communist] news [propaganda]
organization

Truthout's Board of Advisors has included

Red Socialist Robert Reich
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2023

and Marxist Howard Zinn
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=939

Truthout's Board of Directors includes McMaster University Professor
and "educational theorist" Henry A. Giroux. His work draws from a
number of theoretical traditions extending from Karl Marx to Paulo
Freire [Marxist] to Zygmunt Bauman [orthodox Marxist].

Chas. Chan

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On Aug 21, 6:54 pm, Nickname unavailable <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote:
> On Aug 21, 12:30 pm, "Chas. Chan" <tianmei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The aristocrats and gentlemen of the Right who made up the majority of
> Hitler's cabinet hated the concept of democracy even more than the
> Nazis did, All over Germany, thugs in brown shirts took possession of
> the streets and roughed up Communists, socialists, and Jews; they
> chased socialist mayors and officials out of government buildings
>
> http://www.buy.com/prod/hitler-and-his-secret-partners/q/loc/106/3042...
>

You quote a book of fiction by hypnotist James Pool?
"Look deeply into my eyes. You are getting sleepy."
bwaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Chas. Chan

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On Aug 21, 7:07 pm, Nickname unavailable <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote:
> On Aug 21, 12:30 pm, "Chas. Chan" <tianmei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> hitler the conservative:As a master of the "big lie", he was able to
> build substantial grass-roots support, based on a platform of anti-
> Semitism and anti-communism, conservative values
>
> http://www.harley.com/people/adolph-hitler.html

Harley Hahn - writer, philosopher, humorist and computer expert
http://www.harley.com/faq/about-harley.html
Uh huh, that makes him an unquestionalbe expert on Adolf Hitler and
Liberal Fascism.

You obviously are a shining example of a product of Public School
Socialist EduKation.

Nickname unavailable

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On Aug 21, 7:49 pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "In the 1930s, the socialist intellectual H.G. Wells called for the
> creation of a "liberal fascism," which he envisioned as a totalitarian
> state governed by an oligarchy of benevolent experts. In Liberal
> Fascism, Jonah Goldberg brilliantly traces the intellectual roots of
> fascism to their surprising source, showing not only that its
> motivating ideas derive from the left but that the liberal fascist
> impulse is alive and well among contemporary progressives-and is even
> a temptation for compassionate conservatives."
>


ROTFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yea, h.g. wells was so successful, what
country did he run, and what wars did he start. what a fricken moron
you are. on top of that, i see no cite with real empirical evidence
stating that h.g. wells was successful in starting this so-called
movement. however, history tells us that fascism is a conservative
value.
the rest, what a load of dribble. its a fact the fascists hated
liberals moron. no matter how you lie and project, fascism is a
conservative value, and you are a conservative:)


> Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei
> National SOCIALIST German Workers' Party
> NAZI - Nazi Party
>
> On 5 January 1919, Anton Drexler, together with Gottfried Feder,
> Dietrich Eckart and Karl Harrer, and 20 workers from Munich's railway
> shops and some others met to discuss the creation of a new political
> party based on the political principles which Drexler endorsed.
> Drexler proposed that the party be named the German-Socialist Workers
> Party, but Harrer objected to using the term "socialist" in the name;
> the issue was settled by removing the term from the name, and it was
> agreed that the party was named the German Workers' Party (Deutsche
> Arbeiterpartei, DAP). To ease concerns among potential middle-class
> nationalist supporters, Drexler made clear that unlike Marxists, the
> party supported middle-class citizens, and that THE PARTY'S SOCIALIST
> POLICY was meant to give social welfare to German citizens deemed part

> of the Aryan race [Iran racehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan].

> the “building of Web commentator teams” written last year, a Partyscholar wrote: “In an information society, the Internet is an

> Camp Alinsky-Obamahttp://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/camp-alinsky-obama/

Nickname unavailable

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On Aug 21, 8:32 pm, "Chas. Chan" <tianmei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 21, 6:51 pm, Nickname unavailable <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://www.truth-out.org/homeowners-rebellion-recent-rulings-could-sh...
>
> >  Homeowners' Rebellion: Recent Rulings Could Shield 62 Million Homes
> > From Foreclosure
> > Thursday 19 August 2010
> > by: Ellen Brown, t r u t h o u t | News Analysis
>
> Truthout is a 501(c) nonprofit [funding obfuscated],
> "progressive" [Liberal/Fascist/Socialist/Communist] news [propaganda]
> organization
>
> Truthout's Board of Advisors has included
>
> Red Socialist Robert Reichhttp://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2023
>
> and Marxist Howard Zinnhttp://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=939

>
> Truthout's Board of Directors includes McMaster University Professor
> and "educational theorist" Henry A. Giroux.  His work draws from a
> number of theoretical traditions extending from Karl Marx to Paulo
> Freire [Marxist] to Zygmunt Bauman [orthodox Marxist].

ROTFLOL!!!!!!! a red behind every tree, but wait, you hate reds
correct:) so did hitler and mussolini, and they were fascists:)
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAA YOU ARE A
CONSERVATIVE!!!!!!


 here are the three 3 phases of conservative decay.
1.conservatism(policies always fail)
2. libertarianism(the drive for purity, the conservative polices and
those that implemented them, were not pure enough)
3. fascism(the rise of the strong man to ensure purity, the strongman
will drive out the impure, liberals, jews, immigrants, trade
unionists, communists, socialists, those mental and physical defects,
gypsies, etc. this to fails on a huge scale. just look what happened
to the central european fascists. they collapsed their economies, and
came up millions of workers and soldiers short.

thanks for proving me right:)

Nickname unavailable

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On Aug 21, 8:48 pm, "Chas. Chan" <tianmei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 21, 7:07 pm, Nickname unavailable <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 21, 12:30 pm, "Chas. Chan" <tianmei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > hitler the conservative:As a master of the "big lie", he was able to
> > build substantial grass-roots support, based on a platform of anti-
> > Semitism and anti-communism, conservative values
>
> >http://www.harley.com/people/adolph-hitler.html
>
> Harley Hahn - writer, philosopher, humorist and computer experthttp://www.harley.com/faq/about-harley.html

> Uh huh, that makes him an unquestionalbe expert on Adolf Hitler and
> Liberal Fascism.
>
> You obviously are a shining example of a product of Public School
> Socialist EduKation.

then refute what they say. except you cannot:) lets look at some of
that towering conservative logic of yours. we know mussolini and
hitler were the fathers of fascism. we know they hated liberals,
socialists, communists, trade unionists, were homophobic, intolerant
of other views, had racial bigotry and intolerance, as well as
religious intolerance.
now, as a conservative, do you have anything in common with hitler
and mussolini? this is not a trick question:)
as a liberal, do i have anything in common with any of the above? no
i do not. but i dare you to say you do not hate liberals, socialists,
trade unionists, and communists, besides all of the other things
listed. i will be waiting on pins and needles for your honest answer:)

John Smith

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On 8/21/2010 10:30 AM, Chas. Chan wrote:
...
Groups like the one for homosexual marriage are attempting to pervert,
dismantle are destroy the Constitution. They are attempting to rewrite,
redefine and obfuscate the original meaning and intent. We are just in a
period of straightening things out ... it will all work itself out.

(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>

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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:58:18 -0700 (PDT),
[MORONIC ALIAS] wrote:

> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>> dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:
>>> Chas. Chan wrote:


>>>> Dismantling America: Part I

>>> The sooner the better if it'll stop your inanity.

>> Man, you've got THAT right! The PROFOUND ignorance

>> of such paranoid nitwits is almost unbelievable!
>>

>> And most of 'em don't even have the courage of their
>> convictions to post under their REAL names. ROTFL!!

(Just as we've seen again with the craven coward
who posted THIS response. LOL!!! ZERO credibility!)

> This from a person who lionizes...

...and DEDICATES almost ALL of my posts to the compassionate,
humanitarian martyr, Dr. George Tiller, who enabled thousands of
girls and women to put their lives BACK on track, and RESTORED
their full ranges of future opportunities to PRE-ill-timed- pregnancy
levels.

The LOWLIFE Anti-Choice bigots probably have the sort of hateful
mentality that would have had them throwing ROCKS at *Jesus* after
He spared the future of the woman at the well.

Anti-Choicers who might well have been screaming at Jesus:

"How DARE you give SECOND CHANCES to people!!

"And especially to WOMEN!"

<inane LIE flushed>

Nickname unavailable

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snicker, hitler hated homosexuals. hitler loved to project also:)
both are conservative values.

dave

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Gosh. I guess some people are born more equal than others.

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Werner

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The free market didn't create money, Fannie Mae or. Freddie Mac or
thCommunity reinvestment Act, or the mired government agents who are
supposed to mind the store.

dave

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Nickname unavailable wrote:
> On Aug 22, 12:56 am, John Smith<assemblywiz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 8/21/2010 10:30 AM, Chas. Chan wrote:
>> ...
>> Groups like the one for homosexual marriage are attempting to pervert,
>> dismantle are destroy the Constitution. They are attempting to rewrite,
>> redefine and obfuscate the original meaning and intent. We are just in a
>> period of straightening things out ... it will all work itself out.
>
> snicker, hitler hated homosexuals.

Only "officially". A lot of his key advisors were extra fond of chiffon.

dave

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Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

> On 8/21/2010 8:49 PM, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
>> "In the 1930s, the socialist intellectual H.G. Wells called for the
>> creation of a "liberal fascism," which he envisioned as a totalitarian
>> state governed by an oligarchy of benevolent experts. In Liberal
>> Fascism, Jonah Goldberg brilliantly traces the intellectual roots of
>> fascism to their surprising source, showing not only that its
>> motivating ideas derive from the left but that the liberal fascist
>> impulse is alive and well among contemporary progressives-and is even
>> a temptation for compassionate conservatives."
>
>
> The Left loves government Totalitarian and Dictator control, the right
> loves Theocracy(Church) and oligarchy(Family) The Private NON government
> totalitarian control...
>
>
> Both seek totalitarian control for their view.
>
>
> *The problem is we need to Stop them BOTH*
>
I'm a left libertarian. We're pretty pragmatic and don't believe in
power trips.

dave

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Werner wrote:

>
> The free market didn't create money, Fannie Mae or. Freddie Mac or
> thCommunity reinvestment Act, or the mired government agents who are
> supposed to mind the store.

It doesn't stop the "free market" from getting bailed out when their
"freedom" comes back to bite them in the ass, now does it?

∅baMa∅ Tse Dung

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On Aug 21, 2:03 pm, "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) ComuSexual <x...@n.com>
wrote:

http://www.armyofgod.com/GeorgeTillerBabyKillerHitlerPage.html

∅baMa∅ Tse Dung

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On Aug 22, 10:45 am, "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) ComuSexual
<x...@n.com> wrote:

http://www.armyofgod.com/GeorgeTillerBabyKillerHitlerPage.html

∅baMa∅ Tse Dung

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Today you're a what? Yesterday you were a Anarchist Socialist - LMAO!
Yeah, that's pragmatic. It covers every aspect of ComuSexuality.

The only trips you have is on LSD.

http://www.armyofgod.com/GeorgeTillerBabyKillerHitlerPage.html

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Lisa Lisa

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> Dismantling America: Part I
>
> by Thomas Sowell -http://www.tsowell.com
>
> "We the people" are the familiar opening words of the Constitution of
> the United States-- the framework for a self-governing people, free
> from the arbitrary edicts of rulers. It was the blueprint for America,
> and the success of America made that blueprint something that other
> nations sought to follow.
>
> At the time when it was written, however, the Constitution was a
> radical departure from the autocratic governments of the 18th century.
> Since it was something so new and different, the reasons for the
> Constitution's provisions were spelled out in "The Federalist," a book
> written by three of the writers of the Constitution, as a sort of
> instruction guide to a new product.
>
> The Constitution was not only a challenge to the despotic governments
> of its time, it has been a continuing challenge-- to this day-- to all
> those who think that ordinary people should be ruled by their betters,
> whether an elite of blood, or of books or of whatever else gives
> people a puffed-up sense of importance.
>
> While the kings of old have faded into the mists of history, the
> principle of the divine rights of kings to impose whatever they wish
> on the masses lives on today in the rampaging presumptions of those
> who consider themselves anointed to impose their notions on others.
>
> The Constitution of the United States is the biggest single obstacle
> to the carrying out of such rampaging presumptions, so it is not
> surprising that those with such presumptions have led the way in
> denigrating, undermining and evading the Constitution.
>
> While various political leaders have, over the centuries, done things
> that violated either the spirit or the letter of the Constitution, few
> dared to openly say that the Constitution was wrong and that what they
> wanted was right.

We can always reinstate the three-fifths clause, if Sowell wants his
Constitution back.

We can repeal the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments, too.

> It was the Progressives of a hundred years ago who began saying that
> the Constitution needed to be subordinated to whatever they chose to
> call "the needs of the times." Nor were they content to say that the
> Constitution needed more Amendments, for that would have meant that
> the much disdained masses would have something to say about whether,
> or what kind, of Amendments were needed.

But a lot of people "wanted" social progress, especially after they
got through reading "The Jungle." They wanted Standard Oil and the
other trusts broken up. They wanted safer working conditions after
the Triangle Shirtwaist fire killed hundreds of immigrant girls. They
wanted bimetallism. They wanted state ownership of the railroads.
They formed farmers' cooperatives to increase the bargaining power of
farmers. The battle cry of the Great Plains was "raise less corn and
more hell." They pushed for unions, but the state often used its brute
power to stymie the labor movement.

They were brave men and women, and we, their descendants, owe them a
note of thanks for all their hard work and suffering.

> The agenda then, as now, has been for our betters to decide among
> themselves which Constitutional safeguards against arbitrary
> government power should be disregarded, in the name of meeting "the
> needs of the times"-- as they choose to define those needs.

They're not "betters," they're spokesmen. And we thank God for them.

> The first open attack on the Constitution by a President of the United
> States was made by our only president with a Ph.D., Woodrow Wilson.
> Virtually all the arguments as to why judges should not take the
> Constitution as meaning what its words plainly say, but "interpret" it
> to mean whatever it ought to mean, in order to meet "the needs of the
> times," were made by Woodrow Wilson.

There's no way of getting around the need to interpret. Besides,
conservatives also do a little interpreting. That's why the 14th
amendment, originally drafted to protects blacks from race-based
lawmaking, wound up protecting corporations instead. Under the 14th,
Jim Crow became the order of the day, and corporations became people.
Go explain that one.

> It is no coincidence that those who imagine themselves so much wiser
> and nobler than the rest of us should be in the forefront of those who
> seek to erode Constitutional restrictions on the arbitrary powers of
> government. How can our betters impose their superior wisdom and
> virtue on us, when the Constitution gets in the way at every turn,
> with all its provisions to safeguard a system based on a self-
> governing people?

Sowell certainly is preoccupied with "betters." He's been hanging
around white republicans for too long, licking the spittle from their
lips like a good boy.

He's a lickspittle.

> To get their way, the elites must erode or dismantle the Constitution,
> bit by bit, in one way or another. What that means is that they must
> dismantle America. This has been going on piecemeal over the years but
> now we have an administration in Washington that circumvents the
> Constitution wholesale, with its laws passed so fast that the public
> cannot know what is in them, its appointment of "czars" wielding
> greater power than Cabinet members, without having to be exposed to
> pubic scrutiny by going through the confirmation process prescribed by
> the Constitution for Cabinet members.

Blah, blah, blah. The ghost of Mary Anne Lease has risen out of the
grave and is right behind you. She pissed off as all hell, and is
going to hit you over the head with a heavy iron skillet.

And it serves you right.

Lisa

Lamont Cranston

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Fascism is rightwing kookery, so there's no such thing as "Liberal Fascism."

http://www.publiceye.org/eyes/whatfasc.html

Fascism is a form of extreme right-wing ideology that celebrates the
nation or the race as an organic community transcending all other
loyalties. It emphasizes a myth of national or racial rebirth after a
period of decline or destruction. To this end, fascism calls for a
"spiritual revolution" against signs of moral decay such as
individualism and materialism, and seeks to purge "alien" forces and
groups that threaten the organic community. Fascism tends to celebrate
masculinity, youth, mystical unity, and the regenerative power of
violence. Often, but not always, it promotes racial superiority
doctrines, ethnic persecution, imperialist expansion, and genocide. At
the same time, fascists may embrace a form of internationalism based on
either racial or ideological solidarity across national boundaries.
Usually fascism espouses open male supremacy, though sometimes it may
also promote female solidarity and new opportunities for women of the
privileged nation or race.

Fascism's approach to politics is both populist--in that it seeks to
activate "the people" as a whole against perceived oppressors or
enemies--and elitist--in that it treats the people's will as embodied in
a select group, or often one supreme leader, from whom authority
proceeds downward. Fascism seeks to organize a cadre-led mass movement
in a drive to seize state power. It seeks to forcibly subordinate all
spheres of society to its ideological vision of organic community,
usually through a totalitarian state. Both as a movement and a regime,
fascism uses mass organizations as a system of integration and control,
and uses organized violence to suppress opposition, although the scale
of violence varies widely.

Fascism is hostile to Marxism, liberalism, and conservatism, yet it
borrows concepts and practices from all three. Fascism rejects the
principles of class struggle and workers' internationalism as threats to
national or racial unity, yet it often exploits real grievances against
capitalists and landowners through ethnic scapegoating or
radical-sounding conspiracy theories. Fascism rejects the liberal
doctrines of individual autonomy and rights, political pluralism, and
representative government, yet it advocates broad popular participation
in politics and may use parliamentary channels in its drive to power.
Its vision of a "new order" clashes with the conservative attachment to
tradition-based institutions and hierarchies, yet fascism often
romanticizes the past as inspiration for national rebirth.

Fascism has a complex relationship with established elites and the
non-fascist right. It is never a mere puppet of the ruling class, but an
autonomous movement with its own social base. In practice, fascism
defends capitalism against instability and the left, but also pursues an
agenda that sometimes clashes with capitalist interests in significant
ways. There has been much cooperation, competition, and interaction
between fascism and other sections of the right, producing various
hybrid movements and regimes.

Lamont Cranston

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Werner

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Adding still another example of the free market fantasy BS.

http://www.EndIt.info

(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com>

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(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com>

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(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com>

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On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:33:21 -0700 (PDT),
[MORONIC ALIAS] <0bama0....@gmail.com> wrote:


[ ... ]

> It covers every aspect of ComuSexuality.

<flush asinine link>

ROTFL!!!! You really DON'T have anything by way
of a working brain, do you?

Well, take heart!!

There IS **one** thing you're good for!

Earning •• OCR •• Points for REMINDING society that
only LOSERS support hateful, bigoted, and antisocial agendas
like you do.

And you just earned TWO of them. One for the idiotic
CRAP you spewed, above. And another for the moronic
URL that I just FLUSHED.

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

The One HUGE Contribution
that Overt Bigots Make to Society:
Earning •• OCR •• Points!

One thing is for sure: No one will ever see an INTELLIGENT
RRR Cult bigot. I.e., those who *openly* oppose the right
of all girls and women who so choose to access the remedy of
abortion-upon-request (Anti-Choicers)... or who seek to DENY
access to across-the-board EQUAL rights (including the right to
marry their chosen same-sex partners) to gays. Or both. (It's
normally both. With most such bigots, it's usually in for a penny,
in for a pound.). Bigotry and IGNORANCE go together.

The ONLY thing that such sociopaths are really good for is
something that all bigots who have openly declared support for
the above two hate-agendas do VERY well: every time they do
it, they automatically build up their own personal stockpiles of
•• OCR •• Points.

And the more Points they earn, the more LUDICROUS those
caricatures of human beings become. And the more society
becomes AWARE, at a now-accelerating pace, that those loath-
some agendas are something that NO intelligent, sensible, or
fair-minded person would want ANYTHING to do with.

So TO all of those who DO so publicly make such total fools
of themselves, leading to the ultimate auto-destruction of their
hate-agendas -- the egalitarians who support, defend, and pro-
mote human/civil rights and personal liberties are everywhere
PRAISING you for this ONE aspect of your personality defect
that accomplishes something GOOD. By earning all those virtual
•• OCR •• Points, you actually (albeit inadvertently) ARE making
a relevant contribution to hastening the *demise* of bigotry,
and in the process you therefore are contributing to making the
USA a far BETTER place.

Before much longer, the American people will reach the point
at which they would find attending a rat fight to be preferable
to having any association with your agendas -- just as happened
with the segregationists. AND -- just as happened to the segreg-
ationists after their agendas swirled down the Drain of Extinction,
those who remain bigots of the *above* ilk will almost all bottle up
their hatefulness in their minds and never openly express it, so
as not to be regarded by their neighbors and society as pariahs.

Now that this more recent set of bigoted agendas is going
down the drain at an ever-accelerating pace, the process is
becoming very entertaining theater for all who are fair-minded
egalitarians. Because the RRR cultists are SO bone-ignorant
that they either don't realize that they're making this positive
contribution, or else they just they can't help themselves. (Yet.)
And in the process, they can't even present any FACTS to sup-
port their hate-agendas, because NO such facts even EXIST!

It's FUN to watch, since the ultimate outcome will be so
BENEFICIAL to America... and to societies all over the world
that will be looking up us for our ENDING these forms of bigotry,
and thus becoming far more admirable and worthy of emulation.

America has done it before -- when it got RID of segregation.
So the precedent for this was set very nicely, 45 years ago.
Most of the egalitarians still living who helped to guide *those*
agendas into oblivion are doubtlessly watching and assisting
*these* agendas to the same doom with equal enthusiasm and
relish! (We've done this before, and we're LOVING this process!)

The Points the bigots earn are virtual, of course, but the
*process* of their earning them has a very REAL impact. That's
why "OCR" stands for •• Operation Consciousness-Raising ••.

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

John Smith

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Aug 22, 2010, 7:23:22 PM8/22/10
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My gawd, you know how long it has been since I have read anything
intelligent here? Let me see ... well, longer than I can remember. You
are correct, in the above ...

Regards,
JS

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Aug 22, 2010, 8:17:51 PM8/22/10
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god are you stupid, and a liar to boot. i have repeatedly proven to
you that the cra had nothing to do with the housing bubble, and yet
you refuse to collect the reward.i have proven to you that the federal
reserve is not federal, but privately owned and operated. the free
market created the bubble.

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Aug 22, 2010, 8:22:25 PM8/22/10
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correct. we know that many conservatives live a double life, the
reason for their homophobia is their self loathing and self hatred
driven by their suppression of their true sexual selves.its been
reported that hitler himself self loathed, because he was a suppressed
gay and a conservative.

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Aug 22, 2010, 8:27:04 PM8/22/10
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On Aug 22, 3:52 pm, Obi...@Dicta.net wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:49:37 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty

>
> <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>
> >The Left loves government Totalitarian and Dictator control,
>
> Is that why all totalitarians are: a) Conservative; b)
> ultranationalistic; c) racist/homophobic/bigoted; d) hate minorities;
> e) hate immigrants; f) hate change
>
> seems your views of ideologies are rather stupid.

correct.

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Aug 22, 2010, 8:28:21 PM8/22/10
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well said as usual lisa:)

D. Peter Maus

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Aug 22, 2010, 11:02:49 PM8/22/10
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So, Obama is a conservative?


cuh...@webtv.net

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Aug 22, 2010, 11:47:02 PM8/22/10
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ULTIMATE POS! B HO Outed As A CIA Creation.
http://www.rense.com

It's late 10:47 PM, wayyyy past my bedtime.You know the routine,,,,
Move over doggy.You wants a cookie?
WOO WOO WOOF!
cuhulin

RHF

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On Aug 22, 8:45 am, "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://

www.LayoffRemedy.com>" <x...@n.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:58:18 -0700 (PDT),
>
> [MORONIC ALIAS] wrote:
> >  (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
> >>  dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:

> >>>   Chas. Chan wrote:
> >>>>     Dismantling America: Part I
> >>>    The sooner the better if it'll stop your inanity.
> >>     Man, you've got THAT right!  The PROFOUND ignorance
> >> of such paranoid nitwits is almost unbelievable!
>
> >>     And most of 'em don't even have the courage of their
> >> convictions to post under their REAL names.   ROTFL!!
>
>      (Just as we've seen again with the craven coward
>       who posted THIS response.  LOL!!!  ZERO credibility!)
>
> >     This from a person who lionizes...
>
- ...and DEDICATES almost ALL of my posts to the compassionate,
- humanitarian martyr, Dr. George Tiller, who enabled thousands of
- girls and women to put their lives BACK on track, and RESTORED
- their full ranges of future opportunities to PRE-ill-timed-
pregnancy
- levels.

Coerced {Forced} Abortions that are main being
performed on Minority Mothers/Women : Targeting
Minority Babies to be Aborted : That's Racial Genocide
aimed and directed mainly at Blacks, Asians and Mexicans.
The Bull's Eye is : Poor Women; Ethnic Women and
Minority Women and their Full-Term Babies.
That's Obama-Cide© Not Family Planning :
But Coerced {Forced} Family Destruction
Financed by the US Federal Government [.]

- The LOWLIFE Anti-Choice bigots probably have the sort of hateful
- mentality that would have had them throwing ROCKS at *Jesus* after
- He spared the future of the woman at the well.

Real Choice is a combination of 1 & 2 & 3 'Options"
to be considered; and is to let the Women Decide
for Herself Without Government Coerced {Forced}
Abortions as the only 'choice' :
1 - Giving the Baby Life and placing the Baby up
for Adoption;
2 - Keeping the Baby and even Marrying the Father
{Building a Family}
3 - Last but not least Abortion as the last option
-if- # 1 and # 2 are not the Woman's Free Choice.
One Coerced {Forced} Choice IS NO CHICE AT ALL [.]

- Anti-Choicers who might well have been screaming at Jesus:  

The Only One Coerced {Forced} Choicer's are
Chanting the Devils Name and Praising the Mass
Murdering of Innocent Full-Term Living Babies;
when they promote Partial-Birth Abortion.

- "How DARE you give SECOND CHANCES to people!!

How DARE You Not Give a FIRST CHANCE At Life
to Living People; especially Innocent Full-Term Living
Babies; and call it Partial-Birth Abortion

>  "And especially to WOMEN!"
- <inane LIE flushed>

Especially Innocent Full-Term Living Babies and the
One Coerced {Forced} Abortions : That's Obama-Cide©

>
>               = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
>                 •••                   Rest in Peace                    •••
>                 •••          George Richard Tiller, MD          •••
>                 •••           A True American HERO!            •••
>                 •••    August 8, 1941 – May 31, 2009      •••
>                 •••      Visit --  http://iamdrtiller.com        •••
>
>        "He saved the lives of thousands of women who would've
>    died otherwise, thousands who would've been made sterile
>    or gravely injured by childbirth.  He knew his life was at grave
>    risk.  Dr. Tiller was a true Saint."
>
>               = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
>  -- Craig Chilton  (E-Mail me if you wish, from websites below.)
>

> http://www.LayoffRemedy.com  -- Unemployment Solution!http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com  -- Fight the hateful  RRR Cult!http://apifar.blogspot.com  -- Tactics: Defending Human Rightshttp://pro-christian.blogspot.com  -- Exposing RRR Cult Bigotryhttp://www.shadowandillusion.com  -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"http://www.TravelForPay.org  -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!

Only the Devil would classify Dr. Tiller was a true "Saint"
of Hell {Angel-of-Death} for Killing the Living Innocents
-wrt- Full-Term Babies : That's Obama-Cide©
.
Partial-Birth Abortion of Full-Term Babies :
That's Obama-Cide©
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamacide.html
.
PRAY for a Change in the Heart of Prez Obama
to put an End to the un-godly practice of
Partial-Birth Abortion in America - Amen
.
dear lord god {allah} save-the-children~ RHF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y1eXj3NMtQ
.
George Richard Tiller, MD a Genocidal Mass Muderer
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/06db4f8dcc5db8d5
that Practiced Obama-Cide© the Killing of Living Babies
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamacide.html
-aka- Partial-Birth {Born} Abortion
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/047b43d8bccd7d0b
-wrt- Full-Term Healthy Babies put to Obama-Cide©
the Systematic Torture of Innocent Babies resulting
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/f17819caba3eacfe
in their Death due to Coerced Abortions that are
main being performed on Minority Mothers/Women
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/84456769fe564de6
.
Partial-Birth Abortion of Full-Term Babies :
That's Obama-Cide©
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamacide.html
.
Obama-Care© = Obama-Cide© Cause It Funds
and Encourages Partial-Birth Abortions of Minority
Babies to Reduce the Number of Black, Asian and
Mexican Babies "Racial Genocide" promoted by the
Obama Regime in the name of better economic
health for all -more-sick-liberal-un-godly-thinking-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/06db4f8dcc5db8d5
.
NOTE - The Killer of George Tiller MD should be
Arrested, Convicted and Punished for the Crime
of Murder of another Human Being
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2c0af80575f749c5
-but- George Tiller MD the "Master of Death" should
be Arrested, Convicted and Punished for the Crime
of Mass Murder of Hundreds of other Human Beings
who were defenseless Innocent Full-Term Babies.
.
Partial-Birth Abortion of Full-Term Babies :
That's ObamaCide©
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamacide.html
.
Praise Be The Obama ! - my prez-a-duntz ~ RHF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K17kA50c1zs
All Hail to Our Lord and Savior Prez Obama !
http://votingfemale.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/obama-i-am-god.jpg
-for- all those unbelievers : the truth will set you free
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
.
-again- PRAY for a Change in the Heart of Prez
Obama to put an End to the un-godly practice
of Partial-Birth Abortion in America - Amen
.
dear lord god {allah} save-the-children~ RHF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y1eXj3NMtQ
.
.

RHF

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Aug 23, 2010, 1:15:06 AM8/23/10
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On Aug 22, 2:44 pm, "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://
www.ChristianEgalitarian.com>" <x...@n.com> wrote:
.
Targeting Minority Women for Partial-Birth Abortion

of Full-Term Babies : That's Obama-Cide©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
.

> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:58:18 -0700 (PDT),
>
> [MORONIC ALIAS] wrote:
> >  (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
> >>  dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> >>>   Chas. Chan wrote:
> >>>>     Dismantling America: Part I
> >>>    The sooner the better if it'll stop your inanity.
> >>     Man, you've got THAT right!  The PROFOUND ignorance
> >> of such paranoid nitwits is almost unbelievable!
>
> >>     And most of 'em don't even have the courage of their
> >> convictions to post under their REAL names.   ROTFL!!
>
>      (Just as we've seen again with the craven coward
>       who posted THIS response.  LOL!!!  ZERO credibility!)
>
> >     This from a person who lionizes...
.
Targeting Minority Women for Partial-Birth Abortion

of Full-Term Babies : That's Obama-Cide©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3

.
>
>      ...and DEDICATES almost ALL of my posts to the compassionate,
> humanitarian martyr, Dr. George Tiller, who enabled thousands of
> girls and women to put their lives BACK on track, and RESTORED
> their full ranges of future opportunities to PRE-ill-timed- pregnancy
> levels.
>
>      The LOWLIFE Anti-Choice bigots probably have the sort of hateful
> mentality that would have had them throwing ROCKS at *Jesus* after
> He spared the future of the woman at the well.
.
Targeting Minority Women for Partial-Birth Abortion

of Full-Term Babies : That's Obama-Cide©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3

.
>
>      Anti-Choicers who might well have been screaming at Jesus:  
>
>            "How DARE you give SECOND CHANCES to people!!
>
>            "And especially to WOMEN!"
.
Targeting Minority Women for Partial-Birth Abortion

of Full-Term Babies : That's Obama-Cide©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
.

>
> <inane LIE flushed>
>
>               = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
>                 •••                   Rest in Peace                    •••
>                 •••          George Richard Tiller, MD          •••
>                 •••           A True American HERO!            •••
>                 •••    August 8, 1941 – May 31, 2009      •••
>                 •••      Visit --  http://iamdrtiller.com        •••
>
>        "He saved the lives of thousands of women who would've
>    died otherwise, thousands who would've been made sterile
>    or gravely injured by childbirth.  He knew his life was at grave
>    risk.  Dr. Tiller was a true Saint."
>
>               = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
>  -- Craig Chilton  (E-Mail me if you wish, from websites below.)
>
> http://www.LayoffRemedy.com  -- Unemployment Solution!http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com  -- Fight the hateful  RRR Cult!http://apifar.blogspot.com  -- Tactics: Defending Human Rightshttp://pro-christian.blogspot.com  -- Exposing RRR Cult Bigotryhttp://www.shadowandillusion.com  -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"http://www.TravelForPay.org  -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!
.
Targeting Minority Women for Partial-Birth Abortion

of Full-Term Babies : That's Obama-Cide©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
.

RHF

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On Aug 22, 2:44 pm, "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://
www.ChristianEgalitarian.com>" <x...@n.com> wrote:
.
Targeting Minority Women for Partial-Birth Abortion
of Full-Term Babies : That's Obama-Cide©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
.
> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:58:18 -0700 (PDT),
>
> [MORONIC ALIAS] wrote:
> >  (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
> >>  dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> >>>   Chas. Chan wrote:
> >>>>     Dismantling America: Part I
> >>>    The sooner the better if it'll stop your inanity.
> >>     Man, you've got THAT right!  The PROFOUND ignorance
> >> of such paranoid nitwits is almost unbelievable!
.
Targeting Minority Women for Partial-Birth Abortion
of Full-Term Babies : That's Obama-Cide©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
.
>
> >>     And most of 'em don't even have the courage of their
> >> convictions to post under their REAL names.   ROTFL!!
>
>      (Just as we've seen again with the craven coward
>       who posted THIS response.  LOL!!!  ZERO credibility!)
>
> >     This from a person who lionizes...
.
Targeting Minority Women for Partial-Birth Abortion
of Full-Term Babies : That's Obama-Cide©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
.
>
>      ...and DEDICATES almost ALL of my posts to the compassionate,
> humanitarian martyr, Dr. George Tiller, who enabled thousands of
> girls and women to put their lives BACK on track, and RESTORED
> their full ranges of future opportunities to PRE-ill-timed- pregnancy
> levels.
>
>      The LOWLIFE Anti-Choice bigots probably have the sort of hateful
> mentality that would have had them throwing ROCKS at *Jesus* after
> He spared the future of the woman at the well.
>
>      Anti-Choicers who might well have been screaming at Jesus:  
>
>            "How DARE you give SECOND CHANCES to people!!
>
>            "And especially to WOMEN!"
>
> <inane LIE flushed>
.
Targeting Minority Women for Partial-Birth Abortion
of Full-Term Babies : That's Obama-Cide©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
.
>
>               = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
>                 •••                   Rest in Peace                    •••
>                 •••          George Richard Tiller, MD          •••
>                 •••           A True American HERO!            •••
>                 •••    August 8, 1941 – May 31, 2009      •••
>                 •••      Visit --  http://iamdrtiller.com        •••
>
>        "He saved the lives of thousands of women who would've
>    died otherwise, thousands who would've been made sterile
>    or gravely injured by childbirth.  He knew his life was at grave
>    risk.  Dr. Tiller was a true Saint."
>
>               = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
>  -- Craig Chilton  (E-Mail me if you wish, from websites below.)
>
> http://www.LayoffRemedy.com  -- Unemployment Solution!http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com  -- Fight the hateful  RRR Cult!http://apifar.blogspot.com  -- Tactics: Defending Human Rightshttp://pro-christian.blogspot.com  -- Exposing RRR Cult Bigotryhttp://www.shadowandillusion.com  -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"http://www.TravelForPay.org  -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!

RHF

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On Aug 22, 2:52 pm, "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://
www.ChristianEgalitarian.com>" <x...@n.com> wrote:

.
Targeting Minority Women for Partial-Birth Abortion
of Full-Term Babies : That's Obama-Cide©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
.

> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:33:21 -0700 (PDT),

.


Targeting Minority Women for Partial-Birth Abortion
of Full-Term Babies : That's Obama-Cide©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
.
>

>               = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
>                 •••                   Rest in Peace                    •••
>                 •••          George Richard Tiller, MD          •••
>                 •••           A True American HERO!            •••
>                 •••    August 8, 1941 – May 31, 2009      •••
>                 •••      Visit --  http://iamdrtiller.com        •••

.


Targeting Minority Women for Partial-Birth Abortion
of Full-Term Babies : That's Obama-Cide©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
.
>

>        "He saved the lives of thousands of women who would've
>    died otherwise, thousands who would've been made sterile
>    or gravely injured by childbirth.  He knew his life was at grave
>    risk.  Dr. Tiller was a true Saint."
>
>               = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
>  -- Craig Chilton  (E-Mail me if you wish, from websites below.)
>

> http://www.LayoffRemedy.com  -- Unemployment Solution!http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com  -- Fight the hateful  RRR Cult!http://apifar.blogspot.com  -- Tactics: Defending Human Rightshttp://pro-christian.blogspot.com  -- Exposing RRR Cult Bigotryhttp://www.shadowandillusion.com  -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"http://www.TravelForPay.org  -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!

(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com>

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On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:15:06 -0700 (PDT),
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:

...*nothing* INTELLIGENT!

<flush)


Previous post follows:

= = = = = = =

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:58:18 -0700 (PDT),


[MORONIC ALIAS] wrote:
> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:

>> dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:
>>> Chas. Chan wrote:


>>>> Dismantling America: Part I

>>> The sooner the better if it'll stop your inanity.

>> Man, you've got THAT right! The PROFOUND ignorance
>> of such paranoid nitwits is almost unbelievable!
>>
>> And most of 'em don't even have the courage of their
>> convictions to post under their REAL names. ROTFL!!

(Just as we've seen again with the craven coward
who posted THIS response. LOL!!! ZERO credibility!)

> This from a person who lionizes...

...and DEDICATES almost ALL of my posts to the compassionate,


humanitarian martyr, Dr. George Tiller, who enabled thousands of
girls and women to put their lives BACK on track, and RESTORED
their full ranges of future opportunities to PRE-ill-timed- pregnancy
levels.

The LOWLIFE Anti-Choice bigots probably have the sort of hateful
mentality that would have had them throwing ROCKS at *Jesus* after
He spared the future of the woman at the well.

Anti-Choicers who might well have been screaming at Jesus:

"How DARE you give SECOND CHANCES to people!!

"And especially to WOMEN!"

<inane LIE flushed>

(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com>

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Aug 23, 2010, 1:50:20 AM8/23/10
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:16:25 -0700 (PDT),
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:

...*nothing* INTELLIGENT!

<flush>

Previous post follows:

= = = = = = = = =

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:58:18 -0700 (PDT),


[MORONIC ALIAS] wrote:
> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:

>> dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:
>>> Chas. Chan wrote:


>>>> Dismantling America: Part I

>>> The sooner the better if it'll stop your inanity.

>> Man, you've got THAT right! The PROFOUND ignorance
>> of such paranoid nitwits is almost unbelievable!
>>

>> And most of 'em don't even have the courage of their
>> convictions to post under their REAL names. ROTFL!!

(Just as we've seen again with the craven coward
who posted THIS response. LOL!!! ZERO credibility!)

> This from a person who lionizes...

...and DEDICATES almost ALL of my posts to the compassionate,


humanitarian martyr, Dr. George Tiller, who enabled thousands of
girls and women to put their lives BACK on track, and RESTORED
their full ranges of future opportunities to PRE-ill-timed- pregnancy
levels.

The LOWLIFE Anti-Choice bigots probably have the sort of hateful
mentality that would have had them throwing ROCKS at *Jesus* after
He spared the future of the woman at the well.

Anti-Choicers who might well have been screaming at Jesus:

"How DARE you give SECOND CHANCES to people!!

"And especially to WOMEN!"

<inane LIE flushed>

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com>

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Aug 23, 2010, 1:54:57 AM8/23/10
to
On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:19:14 -0700 (PDT),
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote...

...*nothing* INTELLIGENT.

<flush>


Previous post follows:

= = = = = = = = = = =


[ ... ]

<flush asinine link>

Well, take heart!!

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

••• Rest in Peace •••
••• George Richard Tiller, MD •••
••• A True American HERO! •••
••• August 8, 1941 – May 31, 2009 •••
••• Visit -- http://iamdrtiller.com •••

"He saved the lives of thousands of women who would've

Message has been deleted

RHF

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Aug 23, 2010, 2:11:14 AM8/23/10
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- So, Obama is a conservative?

Prez Obama is an 'evolved-thinker' and 'practical-doer'
-so- Barack Hussein Obama : the "person" and the
"Politician" can best be described as an "Obamist"©
{Obama+ist without the 'a'} -wrt- Believes In Himself
and the Genesis of His Ideas as a Clear Vision for
the Future of American as the Lever to Change the
World and Transform Humanity.

"Obamism"© {Centered around the personage of Prez
Obama} is a 21st Century "Cobbled together 'Isms'
and Practical methods of Implementation : Goal
Orientated "Change" and Getting "Change" Done
by just about any means necessary.

"Obamanites"© are the followers of Obamism© and
Members in the Personality Cult of Prez Obama.
True-Believers in Barack Hussein Obama 'The Man"
and they chant "Hope" and "Change" as Their Mantra
although to each "Hope" may not mean the same
thing and for each "Change" may not mean the
same outcome.
-translation-a- Personality Cult of Prez Obama
"Obamanites"© Obama+Man+Nites
[ Obama & The Man {Person} & The Followers of ]

Prez Obama would say :
call me what you want . . .
label me as you will . . .
just as long as . . .
YOU FOLLOW ME !
* For I Am Your "Hope" - Follow Me !
* For I Am Your "Change" - Follow Me !
JUST FOLLOW ME !
For I Am The Embodiment of "Hope" and "Change"
-translation-a- Personality Cult of Prez Obama
?Q? Does Anyone Quest That Prez Obama
Believes in Himself and His Ideas for "Hope"
and "Change" ? ? ?

Brothers and Sisters -i-say- Brothers and Sisters !
Blessed are the Followers of the Great Leader
Our Beloved Prez Obama :
* The Messenger of "Hope"
Let Us Believe In "Hope" and Believe in Prez Obama
* The Bringer of "Change" - Believe in "Change"
Let Us Believe In "Change" and Believe in Prez Obama
BELIEVE IN PREZ OBAMA - pbhn ~ RHF*©
-translation-a- Personality Cult of Prez Obama
.
* © This is another Copy-Righted 'Brain Fart' of RHF
-wrt- 'Brain Fart' -yeah- This Idea(s) Stinks -pew(pu)-
.
.

(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com>

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Aug 23, 2010, 2:18:56 AM8/23/10
to
On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:12:16 -0700 (PDT),
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:

...*nothing* IBTELLIGENT.

[[[ DISREGARD the ASININE subject header above.
My ACTUAL post follows. ]]] ---

= = = = = = = = =

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:58:18 -0700 (PDT),


[MORONIC ALIAS] wrote:
> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:

>> dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:
>>> Chas. Chan wrote:


>>>> Dismantling America: Part I

>>> The sooner the better if it'll stop your inanity.

>> Man, you've got THAT right! The PROFOUND ignorance
>> of such paranoid nitwits is almost unbelievable!
>>
>> And most of 'em don't even have the courage of their
>> convictions to post under their REAL names. ROTFL!!

(Just as we've seen again with the craven coward
who posted THIS response. LOL!!! ZERO credibility!)

> This from a person who lionizes...

...and DEDICATES almost ALL of my posts to the compassionate,


humanitarian martyr, Dr. George Tiller, who enabled thousands of

girls and women to put their lives BACK on track, and RESTORED

their full ranges of future opportunities to PRE-ill-timed- pregnancy

levels.

The LOWLIFE Anti-Choice bigots probably have the sort of hateful

mentality that would have had them throwing ROCKS at *Jesus* after

He spared the future of the woman at the well.

Anti-Choicers who might well have been screaming at Jesus:

"How DARE you give SECOND CHANCES to people!!

"And especially to WOMEN!"

<inane LIE flushed>

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

RHF

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Aug 23, 2010, 2:26:30 AM8/23/10
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On Aug 22, 1:39 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> Nickname unavailable wrote:
> > On Aug 22, 12:56 am, John Smith<assemblywiz...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> On 8/21/2010 10:30 AM, Chas. Chan wrote:
> >> ...
> >> Groups like the one for homosexual marriage are attempting to pervert,
> >> dismantle are destroy the Constitution.  They are attempting to rewrite,
> >> redefine and obfuscate the original meaning and intent. We are just in a
> >> period of straightening things out ... it will all work itself out.
>
- - snicker, hitler hated homosexuals.

Must have been self-hate . . .

- Only "officially".
- A lot of his key advisors were extra fond of chiffon.

Ever see some of the old newsreels of Hitler
dancing-prancing around in a new Caped
Uniform a regular Bell-of-the-Ball
http://i.bnet.com/blogs/pink-hitler.jpg
.

(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com>

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Aug 23, 2010, 2:38:39 AM8/23/10
to
On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:11:14 -0700 (PDT),
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:


> So, Obama is a conservative?

PERISH FORBID!!! What an INSULT to Obama THAT
would be!

"Conservative" is fast becoming the most LOATHED word in
the English language. And DESERVEDLY so!! Ugh!!!

RHF

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Aug 23, 2010, 3:28:38 AM8/23/10
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On Aug 22, 5:22 pm, Nickname unavailable <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote:
> On Aug 22, 3:39 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> > Nickname unavailable wrote:
> > > On Aug 22, 12:56 am, John Smith<assemblywiz...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> > >> On 8/21/2010 10:30 AM, Chas. Chan wrote:
> > >> ...
> > >> Groups like the one for homosexual marriage are attempting to pervert,
> > >> dismantle are destroy the Constitution.  They are attempting to rewrite,
> > >> redefine and obfuscate the original meaning and intent. We are just in a
> > >> period of straightening things out ... it will all work itself out.
>
> > >   snicker, hitler hated homosexuals.
>
> > Only "officially". A lot of his key advisors were extra fond of chiffon.
>
-  correct. we know that many conservatives live a double life, the
- reason for their homophobia is their self loathing and self hatred
- driven by their suppression of their true sexual selves.its been
- reported that hitler himself self loathed, because he was a
suppressed
- gay and a conservative.

So other than Barney Frank; we can now start talking
openly about all those other Brave Democrat Party of
the USA Politicians : Who Are Out of The Closet !
-note- making a list . . .
Big # 1 Barney Frank
let's see # 2 thinking hummm . . .
# 2 thinking again . . .
hummm is there a # 2 . . .
Oh Well It Not a SIN to Be a Homosexual and an
Elected Democrat Office Holder
-but- It is a sin, Sin. SIN ! to Be a Homosexual
and an Elected Republican Office Holder -cause-
Being a Republican is simply Evil and -if- they are
a Homosexual they Must Be Doubly Evil+Evil
-there-fore- The Social Ostracization {Criminalization}
of Republican Homosexuals is Warranted and Good
based on their Political Beliefs and Sexual Orientation.
-ah-yes- It Does Not Take A Weatherman . . .

Gee it's only a Crime -if- you are a Republican Elected
Office Holder -but- then ?why? Oh Why ! are all the
Democrat Elected Office Holders Still in the Closet ?

Homosexuality as a matter of Civil Code should Not
be Criminalized for Anyone : Based on their Political
Party of Political Affiliation -but- Liberals, Democrats
and the Progressive Mass Media seem to have made
up their Own Rules of making Being a Republican
and a Homosexual a Civil Crime Punishable By Being
Forced from Elected Office and Banded from Politics
for Life -but- That Standard Does Not Apply to the
many Elected Democrats who Hold Elected Office.

NOTE - Liberals, Democrats and the Progressive Mass
Media seem to have made up their Own One-Sided Rules
of Outing so-called In-the-Closet Republican Homosexuals
with Front-Page Public Headlines; and at the same time
Actively Concealing the Names of Known Democrat Party
Members who are Homosexual : Claiming It Is A Personal
Matter and a Right-of-Privacy excluded from the Public's
Right-to-Know :
* Clearly a One Way Bias - Protecting Democrat Elected
Office Holders that are Homosexual
* Clearly a Bigoted Double Standard - Attacking Republican
Elected Office Holders that are Homosexual {Gay Bashing}

The Individual's Right-of-Privacy -versus- the Public's
Right-to-Know : Simply needs to be applied uniformly
to Republicans and Democrats a like :
* Out Them All ensuring the Public's Right-to-Know
=Or=
* Respect The Privacy of Them All -ensuring- the
Individual's Right-of-Privacy
.
Naturally the Liberal Controlled Mass Media has
[Silenced] the 'news' -hushed-up- Larry Sinclair
Talks About The ObamaSexual© at the National
Press Club Interview
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/acdc263408ca92d0
.
Oh The [Silence} of the Liberal Controlled Mass Media
Margie Schoedinger's Death ? -versus- The Deaths
of Donald Young ? & Larry Bland ? & Nate Spencer ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a967281b0a90d758
.
And seldom is heard . . . s i l e n c e . . .
The Low Down on the "Down-Low" : Jeff Gannon
-versus- Larry Sinclair & Frankie Schuster
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.liberalism/msg/5b9c0f2d15109425


.
Praise Be The Obama ! - my prez-a-duntz ~ RHF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K17kA50c1zs
All Hail to Our Lord and Savior Prez Obama !
http://votingfemale.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/obama-i-am-god.jpg

-for- all those un-believers : the truth will set you free
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

RHF

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Aug 23, 2010, 3:46:43 AM8/23/10
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On Aug 22, 2:05 pm, Lisa Lisa <harryharr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Aug 21, 1:30 pm, "Chas. Chan" <tianmei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Dismantling America: Part I
>
- Blah, blah, blah.  The ghost of Mary Anne Lease has risen out of the
- grave and is right behind you.  She pissed off as all hell, and is
- going to hit you over the head with a heavy iron skillet.
-
- And it serves you right.
-
- Lisa

lisa, Lisa. LISA ! - Such Violent Urges . . .

? Do You Wear Leather and Ride Choppers ? -nah-

-or-better- Chant the Name of Prez Obama
and Begone Yee Evil Hateful Thoughts
obama,,, obama,,, obama,,,
Obama... Obama... Obama...
OBAMA ! ! ! OBAMA ! ! ! OBAMA ! ! !
Peace Be Upon You In The Name of 'The Obama'
.
Names and Labels Do Not Apply To Prez Obama :
of Obamist and Obamism and Devote Obamanites©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8cdedc3a1f36ffe5


.
Praise Be The Obama ! - my prez-a-duntz ~ RHF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K17kA50c1zs
All Hail to Our Lord and Savior Prez Obama !
http://votingfemale.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/obama-i-am-god.jpg

-for- all those unbelievers : the truth will set you free
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
.
.

RHF

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Aug 23, 2010, 7:32:28 AM8/23/10
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On Aug 22, 3:02 pm, Lamont Cranston <Lamont.Crans...@TheShadow.com>

wrote:
> On 8/21/2010 10:30 AM, Chas. Chan wrote:
>
> Fascism is rightwing kookery, so there's no such thing as "Liberal Fascism."

- There has been much cooperation, competition,
- and interaction between fascism and other sections
- of the right, producing various hybrid movements
- and regimes.

National Socialism and International Socialism
{World Communism} the Top-&-Bottom of the
Same Extreme© -by- RHF
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0d1b36d6a97c6355
.
Fascism = National Socialism for 'The State'
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/22be8433bc5298ee
Communism = International Socialism for 'The World'
* Phase One - Uniting the Nation {People}
Behind the Leader and the {Socialist} Party
* Phase Two - Uniting the World {Peoples}
Behind the Leader(s) and the {Socialist} Party(s)
* * Cooperative World {Socialist} Leadership
* * Unified Party Global {Socialist} Uniting Principles
.
Both are One Party Controlled Socialism and view
the Masses {Subjugated Peoples} as Elements
{Useful Productive Tools*} of the State/World.
* The People Serve the State

Both have : a Party Elite*, The Party and the Masses.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489
* Plus a Strong Ruthless Leader like : Stalin,
Hitler, Mao, Tito, Ho Chi Ming, Mussolini,
Pol Pot, Franco, Kim Il-sung, Erich Honecker
Ceauşescu, Castro, etc

? Does it matter where the Boot on you Neck
is a Fascist Boot or a Communist Boot ? ~ RHF
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489
.
? Does it matter where the Forced Labor Camp
that you are starving and dying in Flies a Fascist
Swastika Flag or a Communist Red-Star Flag ? ~ RHF
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489
.
It ain't the word 'Liberal' -and- It ain't the word 'Fascist'
-nor- Is it the two words 'Liberal' and 'Fascism'
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489
.
21st Century Thinking Sees Them As One
Joined Hyphenated Word {An Evolved Concept}
"Liberal-Fascist" and- "Liberal-Fascism"
-aka- Uber-Progressives {Socialist Elitists}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489
.
Hence the use of the 'Hyphen' between the Two
Words Linking Them and Uniting Them into One
Compound Word with a New Meaning and Usage.
for the 21st Century
"Liberal-Fascism" & "Liberal-Fascist"
-aka- Uber-Progressives {Socialist Elitists}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489

The Validity of the Term "Liberal-Fascist"
- Can Liberal-Fascism Exist ?
- Do Liberal-Fascists Exist ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af4569002bba33ca
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/efbc4aa52f959d40
.
Denying the potential existence of 'Liberal-Fascism'
does not change the fact that 'Liberal-Fascism' may
and can exist in the 21st Century World Today.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/22be8433bc5298ee
.
.

dave

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Aug 23, 2010, 9:39:02 AM8/23/10
to
Nickname unavailable wrote:

>
> correct. we know that many conservatives live a double life, the
> reason for their homophobia is their self loathing and self hatred
> driven by their suppression of their true sexual selves.its been
> reported that hitler himself self loathed, because he was a suppressed
> gay and a conservative.

"Ze Fuhrer never said "Baby!"

RHF

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Aug 23, 2010, 8:53:35 AM8/23/10
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On Aug 22, 11:18 pm, "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://

www.ChristianEgalitarian.com>" <x...@a.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:12:16 -0700 (PDT),
>
- - RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:

- ...*nothing* IBTELLIGENT.

Yes "Craig Chilton" you be very I-B-Telligent - rotfl ~ RHF
.
Targeting Minority Women for Coerced {Forced}


Partial-Birth Abortion of Full-Term Babies :
That's ObamaCide©

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
One Choice Is NO Choice At All [.]


.
Names and Labels Do Not Apply To Prez Obama :
of Obamist and Obamism and Devote Obamanites©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8cdedc3a1f36ffe5
.

May the Spirit and Oneness of "The Obama" Transform
Your Evil Hateful Liberal-Fascism Thoughts©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9847bea150e12417
.
Ah Yes the Great Modern Evil Religions :
National Socialism and Communism the Evil
That Men Do In The Name Of Doing Good©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/44ac8be7d7f1f455


.
National Socialism and International Socialism
{World Communism} the Top-&-Bottom of the
Same Extreme©

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0d1b36d6a97c6355
.
The Alliance Between the Liberal-Fascist and
National Socialism Leading To World Communism©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c4c044e3423630ca
.
Baracking© - Shouting the Liberal Democrat Left's
Hateful and Divisive Rhetoric Back-In-Their-Face©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/b612034ac6eb845e
.
"Liberal-Fascism" an Evolved Political Concept
of the 21st Century©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a3166feb059f9d28
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/14d9270671063cf6
.
Who Is Prez Obama's Real Puppet Master ?©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4c8b0de19433bca4
.
ROTFL : White House says Obama is Christian
and Prays to Allah 5X Daily©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/f1ae724b986d9483
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4cafd087ee46d23c
.
- [[[ DISREGARD the ASININE subject header above.
- My ACTUAL post follows. ]]] ---
.
Targeting Minority Women for Coerced {Forced}


Partial-Birth Abortion of Full-Term Babies :
That's ObamaCide©

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
One Choice Is NO Choice At All [.]
.


> = = = = = = = = =
>
> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:58:18 -0700 (PDT),

- [MORONIC ALIAS] wrote:
.

Targeting Minority Women for Coerced {Forced}


Partial-Birth Abortion of Full-Term Babies :
That's ObamaCide©

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
One Choice Is NO Choice At All [.]
.


> > (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:

> >> dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> >>> Chas. Chan wrote:
> >>>> Dismantling America: Part I
> >>> The sooner the better if it'll stop your inanity.
> >> Man, you've got THAT right! The PROFOUND ignorance
> >> of such paranoid nitwits is almost unbelievable!
>
> >> And most of 'em don't even have the courage of their
> >> convictions to post under their REAL names. ROTFL!!

- (Just as we've seen again with the craven coward
- who posted THIS response. LOL!!! ZERO credibility!)
.
Targeting Minority Women for Coerced {Forced}


Partial-Birth Abortion of Full-Term Babies :
That's ObamaCide©

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
One Choice Is NO Choice At All [.]
.


> > This from a person who lionizes...
>

- ...and DEDICATES almost ALL of my posts to the compassionate,
- humanitarian martyr, Dr. George Tiller, who enabled thousands of
- girls and women to put their lives BACK on track, and RESTORED
- their full ranges of future opportunities to PRE-ill-timed-
pregnancy
- levels.
.
Targeting Minority Women for Coerced {Forced}


Partial-Birth Abortion of Full-Term Babies :
That's ObamaCide©

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
One Choice Is NO Choice At All [.]
.
.
Targeting Minority Women for Partial-Birth Abortion


of Full-Term Babies : That's ObamaCide©

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
.

> The LOWLIFE Anti-Choice bigots probably have the sort of hateful
> mentality that would have had them throwing ROCKS at *Jesus* after
> He spared the future of the woman at the well.
>
> Anti-Choicers who might well have been screaming at Jesus:
>
> "How DARE you give SECOND CHANCES to people!!
>
> "And especially to WOMEN!"
>
> <inane LIE flushed>

.
Targeting Minority Women for Coerced {Forced}


Partial-Birth Abortion of Full-Term Babies :
That's ObamaCide©

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
One Choice Is NO Choice At All [.]
.


> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
> ••• Rest in Peace •••
> ••• George Richard Tiller, MD •••
> ••• A True American HERO! •••
> ••• August 8, 1941 – May 31, 2009 •••
> ••• Visit -- http://iamdrtiller.com •••

.
Targeting Minority Women for Coerced {Forced}


Partial-Birth Abortion of Full-Term Babies :
That's ObamaCide©

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
One Choice Is NO Choice At All [.]
.


> "He saved the lives of thousands of women who would've
> died otherwise, thousands who would've been made sterile
> or gravely injured by childbirth. He knew his life was at grave
> risk. Dr. Tiller was a true Saint."
>
> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
> -- Craig Chilton (E-Mail me if you wish, from websites below.)
>

> http://www.LayoffRemedy.com -- Unemployment Solution!http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the hateful RRR Cult!http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rightshttp://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Cult Bigotryhttp://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!

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Targeting Minority Women for Coerced {Forced}


Partial-Birth Abortion of Full-Term Babies :
That's ObamaCide©

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
One Choice Is NO Choice At All [.]
.

dave

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D. Peter Maus wrote:

>
>
> So, Obama is a conservative?
>

Pretty much. No more liberal than Clinton, who was a disaster for the
working class.

dave

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cuh...@webtv.net wrote:
> ULTIMATE POS! B HO Outed As A CIA Creation.
> http://www.rense.com
>

What you consider "reality" is a CIA creation.

dave

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You're talkin 'bout China Blue Grove wrote:
> In article<i4socp$t3d$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,

> "D. Peter Maus"<dpete...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> So, Obama is a conservative?
>
> Yes. Nader was the liberal candidate. Obama has part of the establishment for
> many years.
>

I voted for Cynthia McKinney, 'cause she's a babe.

dave

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RHF wrote:

> Ever see some of the old newsreels of Hitler
> dancing-prancing around in a new Caped
> Uniform a regular Bell-of-the-Ball
> http://i.bnet.com/blogs/pink-hitler.jpg
> .

Oddly enough, I rarely find myself in places where such "newsreels" are
shown. I like Max Fleischer cartoons.

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cuh...@webtv.net

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A guy in Chicago is listening to Paul Gallo on his Super Talk
Mississippi radio talk show.(Paul is off his vacation now)
http://www.supertalkms.com
The Chicago guy (he has sort of a slow heavy voice on himself) said the
judge wouldn't allow all of the Blagovitch tapes to be played.

http://www.devilfinder.com
The Blagovitch tapes

I am fixin to put on my cleanest dirty clothes (Literally, dirty sweaty)
and head on over to the Home Depot store in Clinton,Mississippi (about
six miles West of doggy's couch) and buy some Grisham window security
bars/burglar bars for my house windows.I bought one over there yesterday
to see if I think it will work out ok.I needs more of them.
cuhulin

(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com>

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On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:53:35 -0700 (PDT),
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:

...*nothing* IBTELLIGENT.

[[[ DISREGARD the ASININE subject header above.


My ACTUAL post follows. ]]] ---

= = = = = = = = =

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:58:18 -0700 (PDT),
[MORONIC ALIAS] wrote:
> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:

>> dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:
>>> Chas. Chan wrote:


>>>> Dismantling America: Part I

>>> The sooner the better if it'll stop your inanity.

>> Man, you've got THAT right! The PROFOUND ignorance
>> of such paranoid nitwits is almost unbelievable!
>>
>> And most of 'em don't even have the courage of their
>> convictions to post under their REAL names. ROTFL!!

(Just as we've seen again with the craven coward

who posted THIS response. LOL!!! ZERO credibility!)

> This from a person who lionizes...

...and DEDICATES almost ALL of my posts to the compassionate,


humanitarian martyr, Dr. George Tiller, who enabled thousands of

girls and women to put their lives BACK on track, and RESTORED

their full ranges of future opportunities to PRE-ill-timed- pregnancy

levels.

The LOWLIFE Anti-Choice bigots probably have the sort of hateful
mentality that would have had them throwing ROCKS at *Jesus* after
He spared the future of the woman at the well.

Anti-Choicers who might well have been screaming at Jesus:

"How DARE you give SECOND CHANCES to people!!

"And especially to WOMEN!"

<inane LIE flushed>

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

••• Rest in Peace •••
••• George Richard Tiller, MD •••
••• A True American HERO! •••
••• August 8, 1941 – May 31, 2009 •••
••• Visit -- http://iamdrtiller.com •••

"He saved the lives of thousands of women who would've

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Joe from Kokomo

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On 8/23/2010 10:08 AM, dave wrote:

> I like Max Fleischer cartoons.

Boop-boop-de-boop!

Nickname unavailable

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On Aug 23, 2:28 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Aug 22, 5:22 pm, Nickname unavailable <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote:> On Aug 22, 3:39 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> > > Nickname unavailable wrote:
> > > > On Aug 22, 12:56 am, John Smith<assemblywiz...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> > > >> On 8/21/2010 10:30 AM, Chas. Chan wrote:
> > > >> ...
> > > >> Groups like the one for homosexual marriage are attempting to pervert,
> > > >> dismantle are destroy the Constitution.  They are attempting to rewrite,
> > > >> redefine and obfuscate the original meaning and intent. We are just in a
> > > >> period of straightening things out ... it will all work itself out.
>
> > > >   snicker, hitler hated homosexuals.
>
> > > Only "officially". A lot of his key advisors were extra fond of chiffon.
>
> -  correct. we know that many conservatives live a double life, the
> - reason for their homophobia is their self loathing and self hatred
> - driven by their suppression of their true sexual selves.its been
> - reported that hitler himself self loathed, because he was a
> suppressed
> - gay and a conservative.
>

i do not remember franks being openly hostile to his fellow gays and
living a double life. its your type that lives the double life and
your type are openly hostile to gays.

> Press Club Interviewhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/acdc263408ca92d0


>  .
> Oh The [Silence} of the Liberal Controlled Mass Media
> Margie Schoedinger's Death ? -versus- The Deaths

> of Donald Young ? & Larry Bland ? & Nate Spencer ?http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a967281b0a90d758


>  .
> And seldom is heard . . . s i l e n c e . . .
> The Low Down on the "Down-Low" : Jeff Gannon

> -versus- Larry Sinclair & Frankie Schusterhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.liberalism/msg/5b9c0f2d15...
>  .
> Praise Be The Obama ! - my prez-a-duntz ~ RHFhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K17kA50c1zs
> All Hail to Our Lord and Savior Prez Obama !http://votingfemale.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/obama-i-am-god.jpg
> -for- all those un-believers : the truth will set you freehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

Nickname unavailable

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correct. double life. typical conservative

Nickname unavailable

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> Same Extreme© -by- RHFhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0d1b36d6a97c6355

>  .
> Fascism = National Socialism for 'The State'http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/22be8433bc5298ee
> Communism = International Socialism for 'The World'
> * Phase One - Uniting the Nation {People}
> Behind the Leader and the {Socialist} Party
> * Phase Two - Uniting the World {Peoples}
> Behind the Leader(s) and the {Socialist} Party(s)
> * * Cooperative World {Socialist} Leadership
> * * Unified Party Global {Socialist} Uniting Principles
>  .
> Both are One Party Controlled Socialism and view
> the Masses {Subjugated Peoples} as Elements
> {Useful Productive Tools*} of the State/World.
> * The People Serve the State
>
> Both have : a Party Elite*, The Party and the Masses.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489

> * Plus a Strong Ruthless Leader like : Stalin,
> Hitler, Mao, Tito, Ho Chi Ming, Mussolini,
> Pol Pot, Franco, Kim Il-sung, Erich Honecker
> Ceauşescu, Castro, etc
>
> ? Does it matter where the Boot on you Neck
> is a Fascist Boot or a Communist Boot ? ~ RHFhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489

>  .
> ? Does it matter where the Forced Labor Camp
> that you are starving and dying in Flies a Fascist
> Swastika Flag or a Communist Red-Star Flag ? ~ RHFhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489

>  .
> It ain't the word 'Liberal' -and- It ain't the word 'Fascist'
> -nor- Is it the two words 'Liberal' and 'Fascism'http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489
>  .
> 21st Century Thinking Sees Them As One
> Joined Hyphenated Word {An Evolved Concept}
> "Liberal-Fascist" and- "Liberal-Fascism"
> -aka- Uber-Progressives {Socialist Elitists}http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489
>  .
> Hence the use of the 'Hyphen' between the Two
> Words Linking Them and Uniting Them into One
> Compound Word with a New Meaning and Usage.
> for the 21st Century
> "Liberal-Fascism" & "Liberal-Fascist"
> -aka- Uber-Progressives {Socialist Elitists}http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489
>
> The Validity of the Term "Liberal-Fascist"
> - Can Liberal-Fascism Exist ?
> - Do Liberal-Fascists Exist ?http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af4569002bba33cahttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/efbc4aa52f959d40

>  .
> Denying the potential existence of 'Liberal-Fascism'
> does not change the fact that 'Liberal-Fascism' may
> and can exist in the 21st Century World Today.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/22be8433bc5298ee
>  .
>  .

how many alias do you post under? different name, same smelly
refutable stuff. and i see you change your alias, when ever you are
pressed to respond. typical crank.

Nickname unavailable

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well said.

RHF

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On Aug 23, 7:08 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> RHF wrote:
> > Ever see some of the old newsreels of Hitler
> > dancing-prancing around in a new Caped
> > Uniform a regular Bell-of-the-Ball
> >http://i.bnet.com/blogs/pink-hitler.jpg
> >   .
>
- Oddly enough, I rarely find myself in places
- where such "newsreels" are shown.
- I like Max Fleischer cartoons.
.
One of the lesser Public TV Channels in the SFBA
used to run some of the Old Movie Newsreels
http://www.britishpathe.com/
http://www.ukstudentlife.com/Britain/History/News.htm
along with the Classic Arts Showcase [CAS]
http://www.classicartsshowcase.org/
.
KMTP-TV - Analog Ch 32 / Digital 33 - San Francisco
K + "Minority Television Project"
http://www.kmtp.tv/index.html
.
~ RHF
.

RHF

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On Aug 23, 6:37 am, Obi...@Dicta.net wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:15:06 -0700 (PDT), RHF

>
> <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >Targeting Minority Women for Partial-Birth Abortion

- Seems a wet-dream conspiracy theory

Obi to use your own words your mind is
a 'wet-dream' of aborted logic . . . ~ RHF


.
Targeting Minority Women for Coerced {Forced}
Partial-Birth Abortion of Full-Term Babies :

That's Obama-Cide©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
Remember - One Choice Is NO Choice At All [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/eba7bcf5fde11f7e
.

RHF

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On Aug 23, 6:51 am, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> A guy in Chicago is listening to Paul Gallo on his Super Talk
> Mississippi radio talk show.(Paul is off his vacation now)http://www.supertalkms.com

> The Chicago guy (he has sort of a slow heavy voice on himself) said the
> judge wouldn't allow all of the Blagovitch tapes to be played.
>
> http://www.devilfinder.com
> The Blagovitch tapes
>
> I am fixin to put on my cleanest dirty clothes (Literally, dirty sweaty)
> and head on over to the Home Depot store in Clinton,Mississippi (about
> six miles West of doggy's couch) and buy some Grisham window security
> bars/burglar bars for my house windows.I bought one over there yesterday
> to see if I think it will work out ok.I needs more of them.
> cuhulin

Cuhulin- Don't end-up Baring Yourself Inside with
NO easy-way out - be secure but be safe ~ RHF
.

RHF

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On Aug 23, 9:36 am, Nickname unavailable <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote:
> On Aug 23, 2:28 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 22, 5:22 pm, Nickname unavailable <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote:> On Aug 22, 3:39 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> > > > Nickname unavailable wrote:
> > > > > On Aug 22, 12:56 am, John Smith<assemblywiz...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> > > > >> On 8/21/2010 10:30 AM, Chas. Chan wrote:
> > > > >> ...
> > > > >> Groups like the one for homosexual marriage are attempting to pervert,
> > > > >> dismantle are destroy the Constitution.  They are attempting to rewrite,
> > > > >> redefine and obfuscate the original meaning and intent. We are just in a
> > > > >> period of straightening things out ... it will all work itself out.
>
> > > > >   snicker, hitler hated homosexuals.
>
> > > > Only "officially". A lot of his key advisors were extra fond of chiffon.
>
> > -  correct. we know that many conservatives live a double life, the
> > - reason for their homophobia is their self loathing and self hatred
> > - driven by their suppression of their true sexual selves.its been
> > - reported that hitler himself self loathed, because he was a
> > suppressed
> > - gay and a conservative.

-  i do not remember franks being openly hostile to his fellow gays
and
- living a double life. its your type that lives the double life and
- your type are openly hostile to gays.

NnUa,

"my type" sort of like 'you people'
implied elitism & implied racism

Dang -if- you had actually read my post it was about
equality and fair of treatment for all :
Regardless of your Politics or Sexual Orientation.

I Guess That Your Rights Are Above The Rights
of All Others and You Have The Right to Over
Rule {Violate} The Rights of Others . . .
-and- that is down right plain wrong

-but- your own personal bias and bigotry
must have clouded your understanding ~ RHF
.
The Double Standard of Liberal-Media-Fascism . . .
The One-Sided "Silence" of the Lame !©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2cd1a471819829db
* Homosexuality as a matter of Civil Code should
NOT Be Criminalized for Anyone


* Clearly a One Way Bias - Protecting Democrat Elected
Office Holders that are Homosexual
* Clearly a Bigoted Double Standard - Attacking Republican
Elected Office Holders that are Homosexual {Gay Bashing}

* The Individual's Right-of-Privacy -versus-
The Public's Right-to-Know


.
Targeting Minority Women for Coerced {Forced}
Partial-Birth Abortion of Full-Term Babies :
That's Obama-Cide©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
Remember - One Choice Is NO Choice At All [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/eba7bcf5fde11f7e

* The Killer's Bull's Eye is Painted-On: Poor Women;
Ethnic Women; and Minority Women of All Races,
and their Full-Term Babies.
* * Prez Obama Taketh Life Away from the Poor
* Rich, Affluent, and College Educated White Women
are given the Privilege of In-Vitro-Fertilization and
Long Term Maternity Leave Payed for by their
Cadillac Health Plans
* * Prez Obama Giveth Life to the Rich.
=Result= Genocidal Class Warfare Obama-Style©

RHF

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On Aug 23, 10:01 am, Nickname unavailable <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote:
- - On Aug 23, 6:32 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:

- how many alias do you post under? different name, same smelly
- refutable stuff. and i see you change your alias, when ever you are
- pressed to respond. typical crank.

NnUa -rotfl- "Reality-Check"
http://img.tfd.com/wn/BB/65DEC-check-mark.gif
-note- the un-official Obama-Check-Mark
http://www.katypros.com/images/img576.jpg
? What Color Is Your Check-Mark ?
http://s3.amazonaws.com/pixmac-preview/check-mark-1.jpg
.
Anyone know me to use any 'other' screen ID
besides "RHF for the 4~5 Years ? - iwtk ~ RHF
.
Liberal-Fascism Permeates the Elitist Mind-Set of
the Obama Regime : Prez Obama the Quintessential
'Progressive' Elitist : Prez Obama "The Anointed One"


.
The Double Standard of Liberal-Media-Fascism . . .
The One-Sided "Silence" of the Lame !©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2cd1a471819829db
* Homosexuality as a matter of Civil Code should
NOT Be Criminalized for Anyone
* Clearly a One Way Bias - Protecting Democrat Elected
Office Holders that are Homosexual
* Clearly a Bigoted Double Standard - Attacking Republican
Elected Office Holders that are Homosexual {Gay Bashing}
* The Individual's Right-of-Privacy -versus-

The Public's Right-to-Know Every Detail
of an Elected Officials Private Life


.
Targeting Minority Women for Coerced {Forced}
Partial-Birth Abortion of Full-Term Babies :
That's Obama-Cide©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bfb8dec250aa65c3
Remember - One Choice Is NO Choice At All [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/eba7bcf5fde11f7e
* The Killer's Bull's Eye is Painted-On: Poor Women;
Ethnic Women; and Minority Women of All Races,
and their Full-Term Babies.
* * Prez Obama Taketh Life Away from the Poor
* Rich, Affluent, and College Educated White Women
are given the Privilege of In-Vitro-Fertilization and
Long Term Maternity Leave Payed for by their
Cadillac Health Plans
* * Prez Obama Giveth Life to the Rich.
=Result= Genocidal Class Warfare Obama-Style©
.

Alas It Is Time To Check-Out . . .
tick . . . tock . . . ~ RHF
http://thumb9.shutterstock.com.edgesuite.net/display_pic_with_logo/79590/79590,1194544382,2/stock-vector-red-check-mark-on-clock-vector-illustration-6788716.jpg
.
.

Beam Me Up Scotty

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> D. Peter Maus wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> So, Obama is a conservative?


Only if that will get him better polling numbers.

cuh...@webtv.net

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It's Later than we think.When the Cork,Ireland online Examiner newspaper
used to have that online chatroom, I used to stay awoke most all night
long, Ergo, they are six hours ahead of my time zone.Some of those
people over there started acting too rowdy, (to say the least) so they
(Cork Examiner) closed down that chatroom.
<Hy Heidie>
cuhulin

Lamont Cranston

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On 8/22/2010 8:02 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
> On 8/22/10 17:03 , Lamont Cranston wrote:
>> ways. There has been much cooperation, competition, and interaction
>> between fascism and other sections of the right, producing various
>> hybrid movements and regimes.

>
>
>
> So, Obama is a conservative?

In several areas, he is.

Lamont Cranston

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Wrong, of course, Middle class incomes rose when Clinton was POTUS.
They dropped during Bush's eight years in office.

Lamont Cranston

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groups.google.com?

ROTFL!

> .
> Fascism = National Socialism for 'The State'
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/22be8433bc5298ee

groups.google.com?

ROTFL!

> Communism = International Socialism for 'The World'
> * Phase One - Uniting the Nation {People}
> Behind the Leader and the {Socialist} Party
> * Phase Two - Uniting the World {Peoples}
> Behind the Leader(s) and the {Socialist} Party(s)
> * * Cooperative World {Socialist} Leadership
> * * Unified Party Global {Socialist} Uniting Principles
> .
> Both are One Party Controlled Socialism and view
> the Masses {Subjugated Peoples} as Elements
> {Useful Productive Tools*} of the State/World.
> * The People Serve the State
>
> Both have : a Party Elite*, The Party and the Masses.
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489
> * Plus a Strong Ruthless Leader like : Stalin,
> Hitler, Mao, Tito, Ho Chi Ming, Mussolini,
> Pol Pot, Franco, Kim Il-sung, Erich Honecker
> Ceauşescu, Castro, etc
>
> ? Does it matter where the Boot on you Neck
> is a Fascist Boot or a Communist Boot ? ~ RHF
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489

groups.google.com?

ROTFL!

> .
> ? Does it matter where the Forced Labor Camp
> that you are starving and dying in Flies a Fascist
> Swastika Flag or a Communist Red-Star Flag ? ~ RHF
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489

groups.google.com?

ROTFL!

> .
> It ain't the word 'Liberal' -and- It ain't the word 'Fascist'
> -nor- Is it the two words 'Liberal' and 'Fascism'
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489

groups.google.com?

ROTFL!

> .
> 21st Century Thinking Sees Them As One
> Joined Hyphenated Word {An Evolved Concept}
> "Liberal-Fascist" and- "Liberal-Fascism"
> -aka- Uber-Progressives {Socialist Elitists}
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489

groups.google.com?

ROTFL!

> .
> Hence the use of the 'Hyphen' between the Two
> Words Linking Them and Uniting Them into One
> Compound Word with a New Meaning and Usage.
> for the 21st Century
> "Liberal-Fascism"& "Liberal-Fascist"
> -aka- Uber-Progressives {Socialist Elitists}
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5934856ca9c66489

groups.google.com?

ROTFL!

>
> The Validity of the Term "Liberal-Fascist"
> - Can Liberal-Fascism Exist ?
> - Do Liberal-Fascists Exist ?
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af4569002bba33ca
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/efbc4aa52f959d40

groups.google.com?

ROTFL!

> .
> Denying the potential existence of 'Liberal-Fascism'
> does not change the fact that 'Liberal-Fascism' may
> and can exist in the 21st Century World Today.
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/22be8433bc5298ee
> .
> .

"...Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism......even
that the nineteenth century was the century of Socialism, of Liberalism,
and of Democracy, it does not necessarily follow that the twentieth
century must also be a century of Socialism, Liberalism and Democracy:
political doctrines pass, but humanity remains, and it may rather be
expected that this will be a century of authority...a century of Fascism."
-- Benito Mussolini, the Father of Fascism

Lamont Cranston

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"...even that the nineteenth century was the century of Socialism, of

Nickname unavailable

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no, your type, the type that implemented the nuremburg laws, incited
Kristallnacht , came after the communists, socialists, jews, trade
unionists, liberals, gypsies, homosexuals, the disabled, the so-called
useless eaters, till there was no one left to come for. any attempt by
you not to look like what you really are is useless.

Nickname unavailable

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Aug 23, 2010, 6:56:01 PM8/23/10
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On Aug 23, 1:32 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Aug 23, 10:01 am, Nickname unavailable <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote:
> - - On Aug 23, 6:32 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> - how many alias do you post under? different name, same smelly
> - refutable stuff. and i see you change your alias, when ever you are
> - pressed to respond. typical crank.
>
> NnUa -rotfl- "Reality-Check"http://img.tfd.com/wn/BB/65DEC-check-mark.gif
> -note- the un-official Obama-Check-Markhttp://www.katypros.com/images/img576.jpg
> ? What Color Is Your Check-Mark ?http://s3.amazonaws.com/pixmac-preview/check-mark-1.jpg
> tick . . . tock . . . ~ RHFhttp://thumb9.shutterstock.com.edgesuite.net/display_pic_with_logo/79...
>  .
>  .

yea right, you are so believable.

Topaz

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Aug 23, 2010, 8:46:14 PM8/23/10
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Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:

"The fight which Fascist Italy waged against Jewry's three
principal weapons, the profound reasons for which may not have been
consciously understood (though I do not believe this myself) furnishes
the best proof that the poison fangs of that Power which transcends
all State boundaries are being drawn, even though in an indirect way.
The prohibition of Freemasonry and secret societies, the suppression
of the supranational Press and the definite abolition of Marxism,
together with the steadily increasing consolidation of the Fascist
concept of the State--all this will enable the Italian Government, in
the course of some years, to advance more and more the interests of
the Italian people without paying any attention to the hissing of the
Jewish world-hydra.
"The English situation is not so favorable. In that country
which has 'the freest democracy' the Jew dictates his will, almost
unrestrained but indirectly, through his influence on public opinion."

http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/

http://www.natvan.com http://www.nsm88.org

http://heretical.com/ http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/

cuh...@webtv.net

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Aug 23, 2010, 8:56:02 PM8/23/10
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A guy in Kentucky said he got expelled from Stihl school because he
showed up wearing a Husqvarnar hat and a case of beer under his arm.
http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=12708

I likes that, that's Good, that's real Good.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Aug 23, 2010, 10:37:50 PM8/23/10
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The World according to Chicago.They don't know nothing.
http://www.rense.com/general91/moreob.htm

Nuttin.
cuhulin

RHF

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Aug 24, 2010, 3:56:19 AM8/24/10
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Topas - - - Mein Kampf . . .

So everything that you need to know about
Fascism was written in 1925/6 and Fascism
has not change at all since 1925/6 . . .

The World Has Not Changed Since 1925/6

Political Though Has Not Changed Since 1925/6

Society Has Not Changed Since 1925/6

it boggles a evolving 21st century mind . . . ~ RHF
.
.
"Liberal-Fascism" an Evolved Political Concept
of the 21st Century©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a3166feb059f9d28
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/14d9270671063cf6
.

RHF

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Aug 24, 2010, 4:01:40 AM8/24/10
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- - NnUa,
- -
- - "my type" sort of like 'you people'
- - implied elitism & implied racism

-  no, your type, the type that implemented the nuremburg laws,
incited
- Kristallnacht , came after the communists, socialists, jews, trade
- unionists, liberals, gypsies, homosexuals, the disabled, the so-
called
- useless eaters, till there was no one left to come for. any attempt
by
- you not to look like what you really are is useless.
-

NnUa - So you are calling me a NAZI - rotfl ~ RHF

NnUa - Thank God {Allah} The Almighty
I Am Not Your 'Type' - pal ~ RHF

RHF

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Aug 24, 2010, 4:05:46 AM8/24/10
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On Aug 23, 1:33 pm, Lamont Cranston <Lamont.Crans...@TheShadow.com>
.

RHF

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Aug 24, 2010, 4:05:56 AM8/24/10
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.

RHF

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Aug 24, 2010, 4:06:13 AM8/24/10
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On Aug 23, 1:34 pm, Lamont Cranston <Lamont.Crans...@TheShadow.com>
wrote:
> >http://thumb9.shutterstock.com.edgesuite.net/display_pic_with_logo/79...

> >   .
> >   .
>
> "...even that the nineteenth century was the century of Socialism, of
> Liberalism, and of Democracy, it does not necessarily follow that the
> twentieth century must also be a century of Socialism, Liberalism and
> Democracy: political doctrines pass, but humanity remains, and it may
> rather be expected that this will be a century of authority...a century
> of Fascism." -- Benito Mussolini, the Father of Fascism

.

dave

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Aug 24, 2010, 10:30:47 AM8/24/10
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I said Working Class, not Middle Class.

Topaz

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Aug 24, 2010, 9:26:15 PM8/24/10
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:56:19 -0700 (PDT), RHF
<rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:


>Topas - - - Mein Kampf . . .
>
>So everything that you need to know about
>Fascism was written in 1925/6 and Fascism
>has not change at all since 1925/6 . . .
>
>The World Has Not Changed Since 1925/6
>
>Political Though Has Not Changed Since 1925/6
>
>Society Has Not Changed Since 1925/6
>
>it boggles a evolving 21st century mind . . . ~ RHF
> .
> .
>"Liberal-Fascism" an Evolved Political Concept

>of the 21st CenturyŠ


This web site explains what is going on with the "left" and the
"right" in the modern economic sense.
http://www.michaeljournal.org/myth.htm

The meaning of "right" and "left" has changed. I stay with the
original meaning for the same reason I refuse to call homosexual
perverts "gay". The word "gay" was originally a good thing.

The right is for outlawing homosexual perversion,
prostitution, abortions, heroin, and other bad things. It puts the
good of the nation first and ahead of the freedom of individuals to
corrupt the culture of the nation.

Leftists believe in the Rede of Witchcraft which states-- If it
harm none, do what will you will. This sounds nice, but like the apple
that the witch gave to Snow White it has poison within. The Rede of
Witchcraft is the Bible of liberalism. It would legalize homosexual
perversion, prostitution, drugs, etc.

The right is for building a great nation. Leftists care only
about individual freedom and are opposed to any laws that would make
the nation better. There are beaches where normal families will not go
because homosexual perverts practice their perversion on the beach.
When the liberals say they are for freedom this is kind of thing they
are talking about. Of course people should be free to do what they
want most of the time. There is no argument there. Liberals are
talking about being free to do things that many people object to and
want outlawed. Their philosophy, taken to its logical conclusion,
would not allow the law that says drivers have to stop at the red
lights. Their philosophy would allow heroin to be sold on grocery
store shelves and allow ads promoting heroin on TV. Their philosophy
would result in chaos and degeneracy.

Libertarians are liberals who want freedom for the Ebenezer
Scrooges to be as greedy as they want. They have the same philosophy
as other leftist who want to legalize heroin and prostitution, namely
that the state can't tell them what they can't do. People don't like
laws stopping them from doing things, and we should sympathize with
that, but sometimes that is not the most important thing. Capitalists
want freedom for greed, other liberals want freedom for degeneracy,
but good laws would make a nation good.

The Communists were leftist and they said they were fighting for
freedom. In Spain they sided with the anarchists. The Communists and
the anarchists were the same people or the same type of people. The
Communists were for having government but only temporarily. They said
that their government was necessary only until the whole world was
Communist. After the world was Communist they wanted to dissolve the
government and have an anarchy.

The right wing cares about the future. Leftists only care about the
present. If their philosophy results in a nightmare future like in
Soylent Green or some other futuristic nightmare they are not
interested and insist that nothing could be more important than the
freedom of individuals to be as decadent as they want. To see the kind
of society libertarians are fighting for see the movie "8MM", they
aren't for the snuff part, but other than that it shows liberalism in
action.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Aug 24, 2010, 10:22:47 PM8/24/10
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http://www.truthcontrol.com/node/john-f-kennedy-assassination

J.D.Tippit heard about it on his police car radio, he was sent to the
Oak Cliff part of Dallas.Why?
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Aug 24, 2010, 11:00:45 PM8/24/10
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COMMIE census counted everybody as citizens.
http://www.rense.com

SCREW the Damn census!!!
cuhulin

(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com>

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Aug 24, 2010, 11:33:10 PM8/24/10
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:26:15 -0500,
Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:


> I refuse to call homosexual ... "gay". The word "gay" was
> originally a good thing.

And it still IS. The aspects that people are BORN with,
such as handedness, sexual orientation, eye color, and
race all have variations, and those are TRIVIAL variations
of NORMACLY.

So GET LOST, Bigot. You're nothing but a LAUGHINGSTOCK.

<idiocy-flush>

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The Gay Rights movement isn't going away. Society will continue to
evolve, and eventually people will look back on discrimination against
gays the way we look back on discrimination against blacks and women,
and wonder how people could ever have been such troglodytes.

--Mark A., 12-3-09

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