Re: uk.rec.sheds scheduled for sporge flood

Dr Ivan D. Reid

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Aug 9, 2007, 3:56:16 AM8/9/07

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> Subject: uk.rec.sheds scheduled for sporge flood
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KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Phil Carmody

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Aug 9, 2007, 6:26:27 AM8/9/07

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Countess-Palatine Blackberry the Perplexed of Divine Intervention.<x{yz}enop...@hotmail.com> writes:
> On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 01:57:57 GMT, supe...@uk.rec.sheds wrote:
>
> >Sporge flooding of uk.rec.sheds will commence in a few hours.
>
> Can anyone tell me what this is all about? Or is it an attempt to
> frighten people into ohling their presumably highly-priced product?

It's called a 'joe job'. A massive 'sporgery' poster
who's been pestering sci.crypt for several months has
presumably had his account at supernews pulled for
terms violations, and now wants to drag their name
through the dirt by creating lots of sporgeries
pretending to be spam from them.

He also sets the 'Followups-To' header to sci.crypt,
such that when people like you reply, sci.crypt gets
even more non-cryptography-related posts. Be on the
look-out for such tricks in the future.

Phil
--
Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all.
-- Microsoft voice recognition live demonstration

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Quadibloc

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Aug 9, 2007, 7:02:34 AM8/9/07

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Countess-Palatine Blackberry the Perplexed of Divine Intervention.

wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 01:57:57 GMT, supe...@uk.rec.sheds wrote:
>
> >Sporge flooding of uk.rec.sheds will commence in a few hours.
>
> Can anyone tell me what this is all about? Or is it an attempt to
> frighten people into ohling their presumably highly-priced product?

Unfortunately, I got fooled by this post too. I replied to it, but the
reply went to sci.crypt instead of sci.astro.amateur, where I saw a
similar post.

This post was intended to flood a group with "real" posts - the
technique has been used against admin.net-abuse.email in the past, as
an example.

John Savard

JonG

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Aug 9, 2007, 7:06:43 AM8/9/07

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Countess-Palatine Blackberry the Perplexed of Divine Intervention. wrote:

>>>> Sporge flooding of uk.rec.sheds will commence in a few hours.
>>> Can anyone tell me what this is all about? Or is it an attempt to
>>> frighten people into ohling their presumably highly-priced product?
>> It's called a 'joe job'. A massive 'sporgery' poster
>> who's been pestering sci.crypt for several months has
>> presumably had his account at supernews pulled for
>> terms violations, and now wants to drag their name
>> through the dirt by creating lots of sporgeries
>> pretending to be spam from them.
>>
>> He also sets the 'Followups-To' header to sci.crypt,
>> such that when people like you reply, sci.crypt gets
>> even more non-cryptography-related posts. Be on the
>> look-out for such tricks in the future.
>>

> Oh! Thanks. I shan't reply again. Sorry.
>

I see that we are the only object of his affections.

--
JonG
I went to the polling station, but the only option
given was to vote for one or other of the politicians.

Malc

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Aug 9, 2007, 8:04:41 AM8/9/07

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On Aug 9, 12:02 pm, Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> Countess-Palatine Blackberry the Perplexed of Divine Intervention.
> wrote:
>

> > On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 01:57:57 GMT, supern...@uk.rec.sheds wrote:
>
> > >Sporge flooding of uk.rec.sheds will commence in a few hours.
>
> > Can anyone tell me what this is all about? Or is it an attempt to
> > frighten people into ohling their presumably highly-priced product?
>
> Unfortunately, I got fooled by this post too. I replied to it, but the
> reply went to sci.crypt instead of sci.astro.amateur, where I saw a
> similar post.
>
> This post was intended to flood a group with "real" posts - the
> technique has been used against admin.net-abuse.email in the past, as
> an example.
>

What's a sporge?
--
MAlc

Richard Bos

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Aug 9, 2007, 8:24:04 AM8/9/07

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Phil Carmody <thefatphi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Countess-Palatine Blackberry the Perplexed of Divine Intervention.<x{yz}enop...@hotmail.com> writes:
> > On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 01:57:57 GMT, supe...@uk.rec.sheds wrote:
> >
> > >Sporge flooding of uk.rec.sheds will commence in a few hours.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what this is all about? Or is it an attempt to
> > frighten people into ohling their presumably highly-priced product?
>
> It's called a 'joe job'. A massive 'sporgery' poster
> who's been pestering sci.crypt for several months has
> presumably had his account at supernews pulled for
> terms violations, and now wants to drag their name
> through the dirt by creating lots of sporgeries
> pretending to be spam from them.

Sounds like coals to Newcastle to me. Neither Supernews nor Newsguy have
a great reputation with me, and I'm rather surprised that Supernews
kicked him out at all (but not that he chose Newsguy for his new home).

Richard

Richard Bos

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Aug 9, 2007, 8:32:39 AM8/9/07

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JonG <ne...@nospamformetodayplease.jongurr.plusnet.com> wrote:

> Countess-Palatine Blackberry the Perplexed of Divine Intervention. wrote:
>
> >> It's called a 'joe job'. A massive 'sporgery' poster
> >> who's been pestering sci.crypt for several months has
> >> presumably had his account at supernews pulled for
> >> terms violations, and now wants to drag their name
> >> through the dirt by creating lots of sporgeries
> >> pretending to be spam from them.

> > Oh! Thanks. I shan't reply again. Sorry.

>
> I see that we are the only object of his affections.

No, we're not. I've seen the same in alt.humo[sic]r.best-of-usenet,
ahbou.d, and rec.humo[sic]r.funny.

Richard

robert...@my-deja.com

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Aug 9, 2007, 8:37:26 AM8/9/07

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On 9 Aug, 08:56, "Dr Ivan D. Reid" <Ivan.R...@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 01:57:57 GMT, supern...@uk.rec.sheds <supern...@uk.rec.sheds>
> wrote in <MPG.aeec1af04...@64.209.0.87>:> Path: nntp0.brunel.ac.uk!feed2.jnfs.ja.net!jnfs.ja.net!warwick!univ-lyon1.fr!

gROOGLE seems to have eaten the original spammy stuff.

Bring it on, I say. The shed will prevail.

These are REALLY good pain killers. They are called Diclofenac, and I
am a double dose. My leg has stopped hurting but now my time
perception is all to buggery. At one moment everyone in the airport
lounge here is frozen like statues and not moving, and a bit later
they are all running like ants before a blowtorch.

I'm going to keep these! I just saw a plane take off like a guy
fawkes rocket from a horizontal milk bottle. Mmmm

Esmail

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Aug 9, 2007, 8:38:15 AM8/9/07

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Malc wrote:
>
>>
> What's a sporge?
> --
> MAlc
>

I didn't know it either (I could guess based on context).

Search engines are amazing and useful (and free for anyone
to use). Put it into google, the first link returned:

http://www.warezfaq.com/dealing_with_sporge.htm

contained:

"Sporge" is a made up word used to describe a forgery-flood intended to
disrupt a newsgroup. It's origins are from spam and forge. Such messages
usually have the pseudonyms of posters in the targeted, or other, groups and
can have any kind of subject line- from garbage to copied subject-lines from
the targeted group. The line-count is usually bogus, and the sporge is almost
always posted using one or more proxies- thus protecting the disruptor from
any ramifications.

<.. more at above link ..>

Andy Burns

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Aug 9, 2007, 8:48:01 AM8/9/07

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On 09/08/2007 13:37, robert...@my-deja.com wrote:

> gROOGLE seems to have eaten the original spammy stuff.

I never saw the original here.

> These are REALLY good pain killers. They are called Diclofenac

I was given some under the name Cataflam after having my screw-in fangs
fitted "just in case" didn't need them thobut.

Dave Larrington

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Aug 9, 2007, 8:57:17 AM8/9/07

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In news:46bb0930....@news.xs4all.nl,
Richard Bos <r...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell
us:

And uk.rec.cycling and uk.rec.waterways and...

--
Dave Larrington
<http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
The elder stoat leads, in all circumstances.

Dr Ivan D. Reid

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Aug 9, 2007, 8:56:02 AM8/9/07

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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:37:26 -0700, robert...@my-deja.com
<robert...@my-deja.com> wrote in
<1186663046.2...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>:

> These are REALLY good pain killers. They are called Diclofenac

Better make sure they don't feed your remains to Indian vultures, though.

Dr Ivan D. Reid

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Aug 9, 2007, 9:52:30 AM8/9/07

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On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 13:57:17 +0100, Dave Larrington <smert.s...@privacy.net>
wrote in <5i0hcaF...@mid.individual.net>:

> And uk.rec.cycling and uk.rec.waterways and...

...and uk.rec.motorcycles.classic but not, AFAICS, ukrm itself. Our
reputation precedes us!

Roger Hunt

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Aug 9, 2007, 10:12:14 AM8/9/07

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Andy Burns wrote

IRTA "catflap".
--
Roger Hunt

Richard Robinson

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Aug 9, 2007, 10:24:56 AM8/9/07

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robert...@my-deja.com said:
>
> These are REALLY good pain killers. They are called Diclofenac, and I
> am a double dose. My leg has stopped hurting but now my time
> perception is all to buggery. At one moment everyone in the airport
> lounge here is frozen like statues and not moving, and a bit later
> they are all running like ants before a blowtorch.
>
> I'm going to keep these! I just saw a plane take off like a guy
> fawkes rocket from a horizontal milk bottle. Mmmm

Blimey <impressed>

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

Cerumen

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Aug 9, 2007, 10:21:23 AM8/9/07

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"JonG" <ne...@nospamformetodayplease.jongurr.plusnet.com> wrote in message
news:0112d0a0$0$17790$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...

> Countess-Palatine Blackberry the Perplexed of Divine Intervention. wrote:
>
>>>>> Sporge flooding of uk.rec.sheds will commence in a few hours.
>>>> Can anyone tell me what this is all about? Or is it an attempt to
>>>> frighten people into ohling their presumably highly-priced product?
>>> It's called a 'joe job'. A massive 'sporgery' poster who's been
>>> pestering sci.crypt for several months has presumably had his account at
>>> supernews pulled for terms violations, and now wants to drag their name
>>> through the dirt by creating lots of sporgeries
>>> pretending to be spam from them.
>>>
>>> He also sets the 'Followups-To' header to sci.crypt, such that when
>>> people like you reply, sci.crypt gets even more non-cryptography-related
>>> posts. Be on the look-out for such tricks in the future.
>>>
>> Oh! Thanks. I shan't reply again. Sorry.
>>
>
> I see that we are the only object of his affections.
>

I saw it in an Irish group as well and one other I can't unforget which
though and then I made a rule blocking a part of the sender ID so it may
well be widespread.

--
Chris, West Cork, Ireland.
Festina lente

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Andy Burns

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Aug 9, 2007, 12:45:50 PM8/9/07

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On 09/08/2007 17:03, Countess-Palatine Blackberry the Perplexed of
Divine Intervention. wrote:

> Screw-in fangs? How did you go about getting those, then? Are they
> fraifully spensive?

I went to Budapest for 'em, less zbarlous but still not purnc.

A not particularly gory photo
http://adslpipe.co.uk/photos/screw_in_fangs.jpg

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Andy Burns

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Aug 9, 2007, 5:31:52 PM8/9/07

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On 09/08/2007 22:20, Countess-Palatine Blackberry the Perplexed of
Divine Intervention. wrote:

>> They
>> prolly wouldn't let me have them, cos of the risk of infection to
>
> diabetics with heart prombles.

Prolly know, I was given auntie buy otix for 2 days before and 3 after,
very strange having screwdrivers, hammers and chisels hfred in yer gob,
that photo was 3 months afterwards just before the fangs got attached.

--
... - . -. -.. . -.-.

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Frank Erskine

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Aug 9, 2007, 7:17:48 PM8/9/07

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Do the implants move about a bit as the gums settle down? Do the final
'tooth' positions and angles have to be decided after that's taken
place?
Are the fangs attached with BSW screws? Were Allen screws used?

Which reminds me, I have a dental czech-up at 8·30 this morning...
Must go and floss the teeth, or he'll have a go with his rotary wire
brush ...

--
Frank Erskine
MJBC, OETKBC

Andy Burns

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Aug 10, 2007, 5:51:29 AM8/10/07

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On 10/08/2007 00:17, Frank Erskine wrote:

> Do the implants move about a bit as the gums settle down?

They did a test after installation with an ickle torque wrench and the
hold wasn't strong enough in my case to fit teeth immediately as they'd
had to give me a bone[3] graft (one implant was replacing a tooth taken
out 600 fortnights ago) so they needed a 8 fortnight bedding in period,
with the screwheads in place as seen in the first photo.

Unfortunately I was in the Pam Ayres dental position beforehand, I had
all wisdoms and one other extracted, 3 root fillings, old mercury
fillings replaced with white, fillings to build up worn-down lower front
nibblers, the two implants and crowns/bridges all the way round at the
top. All for about 2.25 mega zu[7], could have been about 10% purncer by
not having Au.

> Do the final
> 'tooth' positions and angles have to be decided after that's taken
> place?

That seemed about the most complicated bit to get right, they unscrew
the screwheads leaving an internal fred, into which they screw a spike,
then they take top and bottom impressions with the playdough stuff they
have to jbex out the abezny biting point and molish the bridge/crowns.

Here's an xray before the final 3 were fitted
http://adslpipe.co.uk/photos/fangs_xray2.jpg

I goove the "fit" has actually improved slightly since first done so the
implants and/or other teef do seem to move into a comfortable position I
suppose.

I was one of them who was fairly dentist phobic, but after /so/ much
work being done it all acted as aversion therapy I goove, I don't mind
them at all now.

> Are the fangs attached with BSW screws? Were Allen screws used?

I should goove they're zrgevp as they're molished in treznavia.

[3] Mooooo!

[7] Forints

robert...@my-deja.com

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Aug 13, 2007, 2:15:07 AM8/13/07

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On 9 Aug, 13:57, "Dave Larrington" <smert.spamio...@privacy.net>
wrote:

> > No, we're not. I've seen the same in alt.humo[sic]r.best-of-usenet,
> > ahbou.d, and rec.humo[sic]r.funny.
>
> And uk.rec.cycling and uk.rec.waterways and...

The attack seems to be under way. Might I suggest we post with
[[Shed]] in the title for now?

Bob H

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Cerumen

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Aug 13, 2007, 4:13:25 AM8/13/07

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"Countess-Palatine Blackberry the Perplexed of Divine Intervention."

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> I don't seem to have them here. Well, not yet, anyway.
>
> <Crosses fnigers, throws salt over shoulder, dances widdershins round
> the room.>
>
I think they have been stopped by some ISP's already.

Andrew Marshall

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Aug 13, 2007, 4:23:19 AM8/13/07

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In message <ni30c392e77ibuhj1...@4ax.com>,

Countess-Palatine Blackberry the Perplexed of Divine Intervention.

<x{yz}enop...@hotmail.com> writes

>On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:15:07 -0700, robert...@my-deja.com wrote:

>I don't seem to have them here. Well, not yet, anyway.

I got a great load of them this ack emma; one large wodge only, and I
just selected them en bloc (WOCAB) and deleted them. For the moment, I'm
just kayeffing all crossposted articles until it blows over.
--
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Unsolicited advertising matter unwelcome. Offenders may be blacklisted.

Cerumen

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Aug 13, 2007, 6:43:26 AM8/13/07

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"Countess-Palatine Blackberry the Perplexed of Divine Intervention."

<x{yz}enop...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ni30c392e77ibuhj1...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:15:07 -0700, robert...@my-deja.com wrote:

> I don't seem to have them here. Well, not yet, anyway.
>

> <Crosses fnigers, throws salt over shoulder, dances widdershins round
> the room.>
>

With or without drawers on?

robert...@my-deja.com

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Aug 13, 2007, 7:20:50 AM8/13/07

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On 9 Aug, 17:05, Countess-Palatine Blackberry the Perplexed of Divine
Intervention.<x{yz}enophi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> And in uk.rec.ufo.

How can we be sure of that?

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Cerumen

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Aug 13, 2007, 10:13:05 AM8/13/07

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"Countess-Palatine Blackberry the Perplexed of Divine Intervention."
<x{yz}enop...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Lightly be-drawered.
>
That's why what flood we got was light then I expect.

Lister

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Aug 13, 2007, 10:38:55 AM8/13/07

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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:12:25 +0100, Countess-Palatine Blackberry the
Perplexed of Divine Intervention.<x{yz}enop...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:43:26 +0100, "Cerumen" <cerume...@gmail.com>
>wrote:

>Lightly be-drawered.
>
>I haven't worn bloomers since I was 12.

Even when you see fit to wear a skirt?

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Grand Duchess Fenny the Idle of Mabe Burnthouse

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Aug 13, 2007, 12:52:14 PM8/13/07

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Previously on Studio 60 ^W^W uk.rec.sheds, Andrew Marshall said ...

> I'm
> just kayeffing all crossposted articles until it blows over.
>

I do that anyway. It helps to keep the idiot motorcyclists quiet.

I ain't seen nuffink out of the ordinary of late. I think Berlin is
pretty good in that respect and anything else is mostly caught by my own
filters.
--
Fenny

'the' is a registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation

Lister

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Aug 13, 2007, 1:37:28 PM8/13/07

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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:48:46 +0100, Countess-Palatine Blackberry the

Perplexed of Divine Intervention.<x{yz}enop...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I nearly always wear skirts, and I *do* wear undergarments, but they are
>as brief as I can get away with[1] and therefore not drawers, which are
>those knee-length pink knickers with elastic at the bottom of the legs
>and maybe a little pocket whaich grannies useter wear.

I gooves terminology has moved on since yer granny's day

Andrew Marshall

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Aug 13, 2007, 1:49:38 PM8/13/07

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In message <MPG.212a9c9b8...@news.individual.net>, Grand
Duchess Fenny the Idle of Mabe Burnthouse <um...@onetel.com> writes

>Previously on Studio 60 ^W^W uk.rec.sheds, Andrew Marshall said ...
>> I'm
>> just kayeffing all crossposted articles until it blows over.
>>
>I do that anyway. It helps to keep the idiot motorcyclists quiet.

Aye; makes for a more tranquil life, innit.

>I ain't seen nuffink out of the ordinary of late. I think Berlin is
>pretty good in that respect and anything else is mostly caught by my own
>filters.

The eDomn filters unfortunately didn't catch it, though they're
generally quite good at de-pencing their arjsfeed. I saw another 'sporge
warning' posted in sci.chem.electrochem.battery this morning, so I'll
set the KF to reject crossposts there TAAW.

Tomi Häsä

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Aug 14, 2007, 2:38:20 PM8/14/07

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On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 01:57:57 GMT, supern...@uk.rec.sheds
<supern...@uk.rec.sheds> wrote:
> [...]

To help better filter this spammer, here are some of the sporge flood
warning messages in newsgroups where the sporge flood attacks actually
took place around August 2007:

Some of the false alarms (at least so far):

More sporge flood warning messages can be found with this search:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=sporge+flood&num=100&scoring=r&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=&lr=&as_qdr=w&as_drrb=b&as_mind=4&as_minm=8&as_miny=2007&as_maxd=14&as_maxm=8&as_maxy=2007&safe=off

Filtering suggestion for the sporge flood attacks:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.crypt/browse_frm/thread/b1a5be766256e01f/69869a7d856ef65e#69869a7d856ef65e

More info about sporge flood attacks for newbies who might find this
thread confusing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporgery
http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/sporg.htm
http://www.wordsonline.org/Sporge
http://www.dansdata.com/sporge.htm
http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/sporgart.htm
http://www.talkaboutreligion.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/messages/1242545.html
http://www.holysmoke.org/forgeries/giganews.htm
http://www.usenetplus.com/blog/2007/07/12/of-sporge-and-lamers/

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 14, 2007, 2:43:20 PM8/14/07

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"And though they're a part of the Lone Star State,
The people don't seem to care.
They just keep on lookin' to the east."

Roger Hunt

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Aug 14, 2007, 3:12:37 PM8/14/07

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Don Stockbauer wrote

>"And though they're a part of the Lone Star State,
>The people don't seem to care.
>They just keep on lookin' to the east."
>

Perhaps those in Louisiana spend their time looking West ...
Why not just swap places?
--
Roger Hunt

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