By their fruits, October 2011
Ron O
creationism. The title reflects the Biblical quote on the matter, and
these are the fruit of the creationist movement. Can you judge
something by the fruit that it produces? The Bible makes that claim.
You can use Google to get to the posters profiles to read as many of
their posts as you can stand. The usual disclaimers are that these
guys are often a select group. They are the only ones left that want
to try to support things like scientific creationism or intelligent
design, often after years of the same pathetic nonsense. You do
usually have to read multiple posts from these posters to get a decent
idea of what type they are. I select posts from random from the last
couple of weeks of threads. If I happen to find a post that makes the
poster look too bad I pick another, so you likely are not going to get
a feel for the posters with just one hit.
The May thread with a link back to other fruit threads:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/9cf27bed6264a0fc?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/19bb6bdc0156e61b?hl=en
Herman:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2fe179a12361d9ef?hl=en
Pagano. I think that Pags has been getting worse if that is possible.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/f16c80526dec2444?hl=en
Jihadist:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/ee87b5e7e034714d?hl=en
Ray Martinez:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/4e07f0a3b551f48d?hl=en
Glenn:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/380806afbc0e4bd9?hl=en
Alan Kleinman MD PhD. What a waste of an education if he really has
these degrees.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/0d18185cc8da7f39?hl=en
sadovnik socratus Loki?
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/c21b906733515b83?hl=en
Suzanne: Ever upbeat, she likely is in the wrong forum.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6eb6ca4760132c14?hl=en
iaoua iaoua. Tthere are 6 previous day posts if this one isn�t enough.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a495552ea99e1521?hl=en
Backspace. Still trying to redefine reality.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a495552ea99e1521?hl=en
rmj?:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/42325314ecb3d4d6?hl=en
Anthony022071:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/035babb0ad560540?hl=en
Kalkidas is supposedly the brains of the current IDiots and a Hindu
creationist.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/aaa5b09cb12d4de3?hl=en
davenorthey. He may not belong on the list but he has his own version
of hell described in this post.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a053eaaf403ba3e3?hl=en
quantum.dotproduct. I can�t tell, but he sort of fits the profile.
Could just be someone like JTEM.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6e1b7a5a69819847?hl=en
Nashton:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/3935cd545df6b462?hl=en
Brett Schubert? I only put him up because if he was on the dark side
he seemed to be very nice about it in the half dozen posts he put up.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/c093feaf6ef1047c?hl=en
tapehead? Didn�t post enough to tell.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/0c9d1e9da0e94d99?hl=en
Last, but not least is pnyikos. He just reminded me that it was time
for another survey, so it is only fitting that he should take center
stage. He is also likely to shed some light on the lies that the ID
perps and any of their IDiot followers have to keep telling themselves
to keep the ID scam going.
Nyikos started his latest thread when he had to run from the sub
thread of his dirty debating thread (The Central Issue Re: Dirty
Debating Tactics 1: The Broken.Usenet.Promise):
Insane "logic" from Ron O
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/4f3e2c442207abea?hl=en
My response:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a176126322b4cc26?hl=en
The posts that Nyikos was running from to start the Insane �logic�
thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/3b97e1564472c17d?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/75f4c1af25c978cf?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/f2b726f7959acf77?hl=en
Nyikos always whines about documentation, but what does he do when he
gets it?
Dirty Debating Tactics 1: The Broken.Usenet.Promise. Nyikos made two
posts to start this thread. I didn�t take notice of the thread, but
Nyikos demanded that I come to the thread and respond to his posts. I
did and Nyikos ran.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/ad41e606c0c0b274?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a9b2eff508387e04?hl=en
My responses:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6bd5ffca9ec4bcd7?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/cfdc376e913ac915?hl=en
In another thread Nyikos claimed that the first two posts in the
thread were not the ones that he had wanted me to respond to, and
directed me to his second post to Bill in that thread. Why I am
supposed to respond to the second post to someone else was never
explained. It turned out that Nyikos was lying to Bill about
something that Nyikos had made up in his own mind that had supposedly
occurred in another thread. It was so stupid that we talked past each
other for several posts until Nyikos put up the link to the post he
was claiming that I had lied about him in, and it turned out that
Nyikos had just made the whole thing up. He had manipulated the post
so that you could not readily see what I had actually said, but when I
put the whole thing up as it was before the Nyikos manipulation it was
clear that I had stated exactly what Nyikos was guilty of and that I
had never lied about it. When Nyikos was confronted by his stupidity
he ran and started the Scottish verdict thread.
Nyikos confronted by his stupidity:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a995034f6931eba4?hl=en
Nyikos snipping and running:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a492a4c2a42f5484?hl=en
Nyikos getting called on snipping and running:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2a9eb8898289a07f?hl=en
So Nyikos started the stupid thread on a false premise and couldn�t
face that fact, so he had to start another thread to try to do the
same thing.
Scottish verdict on accusation of a "bait and switch scam"
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2437ba1ac91c46ef
My response:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/8aa75c789ebedeb3
And it goes on with Nyikos running from these posts in the Scottish
verdict thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/55739d9161562d83
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/4d351960f2aabc30
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/8156903be472b510
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/4dea96d935b7522c
There is a pattern here. Nyikos started the misdirection ploy thread
to run from the original thread.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/9103f16d366f7d45?hl=en
This is one of the posts Nyikos is running from in the original
thread. I looked and there are quite a few posts waiting for Nyikos'
attention in that thread. This is the guy that claimed that I was
running away from a post for three whole days when he had posted it to
someone else and there was no reason for me to know that the post
existed. Three days compared to the months Nyikos has been running
from some posts and he demands that I participate in other threads
that he creates to rag on me. You can't make this junk up:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/092d106b63c89963?hl=en
So Nyikos is a prime fruit of the intelligent design scam. He is
exactly the type of rube that they need to keep the scam rolling.
Observing how Nyikos copes with reality over the past 9 months may
give some clue why there are still IDiots that support the ID scam.
After 9 years of the ID perps running the bait and switch scam on
their own creationist support base the only IDiots left are the
ignorant, incompetent and or dishonest. Nyikos is all three rolled
into one.
If I have left anyone off, add them to the list.
Ron Okimoto
iaoua iaoua
falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
“Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the
same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
JC
On Oct 9, 4:18 pm, Ron O <rokim...@cox.net> wrote:
> This is the list of the usual rabble that defend various forms of
> creationism. The title reflects the Biblical quote on the matter, and
> these are the fruit of the creationist movement. Can you judge
> something by the fruit that it produces? The Bible makes that claim.
> You can use Google to get to the posters profiles to read as many of
> their posts as you can stand. The usual disclaimers are that these
> guys are often a select group. They are the only ones left that want
> to try to support things like scientific creationism or intelligent
> design, often after years of the same pathetic nonsense. You do
> usually have to read multiple posts from these posters to get a decent
> idea of what type they are. I select posts from random from the last
> couple of weeks of threads. If I happen to find a post that makes the
> poster look too bad I pick another, so you likely are not going to get
> a feel for the posters with just one hit.
>
>
> Herman:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2fe179a12361d9ef?hl=en
>
> Pagano. I think that Pags has been getting worse if that is possible.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/f16c80526dec2444?hl=en
> Jihadist:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/ee87b5e7e034714d?hl=en
>
> Ray Martinez:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/4e07f0a3b551f48d?hl=en
>
> Glenn:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/380806afbc0e4bd9?hl=en
>
> Alan Kleinman MD PhD. What a waste of an education if he really has
> these degrees.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/0d18185cc8da7f39?hl=en
>
>
> Suzanne: Ever upbeat, she likely is in the wrong forum.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6eb6ca4760132c14?hl=en
>
> iaoua iaoua. Tthere are 6 previous day posts if this one isn t enough.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a495552ea99e1521?hl=en
>
> Backspace. Still trying to redefine reality.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a495552ea99e1521?hl=en
> rmj?:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/42325314ecb3d4d6?hl=en
>
> Anthony022071:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/035babb0ad560540?hl=en
>
> Kalkidas is supposedly the brains of the current IDiots and a Hindu
> davenorthey. He may not belong on the list but he has his own version
> of hell described in this post.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a053eaaf403ba3e3?hl=en
>
> Could just be someone like JTEM.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6e1b7a5a69819847?hl=en
> Nashton:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/3935cd545df6b462?hl=en
>
> Brett Schubert? I only put him up because if he was on the dark side
> he seemed to be very nice about it in the half dozen posts he put up.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/c093feaf6ef1047c?hl=en
>
> Last, but not least is pnyikos. He just reminded me that it was time
> for another survey, so it is only fitting that he should take center
> stage. He is also likely to shed some light on the lies that the ID
> perps and any of their IDiot followers have to keep telling themselves
> to keep the ID scam going.
>
> Nyikos started his latest thread when he had to run from the sub
> thread of his dirty debating thread (The Central Issue Re: Dirty
> Debating Tactics 1: The Broken.Usenet.Promise):
>
> My response:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a176126322b4cc26?hl=en
>
> The posts that Nyikos was running from to start the Insane logic
> thread:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/3b97e1564472c17d?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/75f4c1af25c978cf?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/f2b726f7959acf77?hl=en
> Nyikos always whines about documentation, but what does he do when he
> gets it?
>
> Dirty Debating Tactics 1: The Broken.Usenet.Promise. Nyikos made two
> did and Nyikos ran.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/ad41e606c0c0b274?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a9b2eff508387e04?hl=en
>
> In another thread Nyikos claimed that the first two posts in the
> thread were not the ones that he had wanted me to respond to, and
> directed me to his second post to Bill in that thread. Why I am
> supposed to respond to the second post to someone else was never
> explained. It turned out that Nyikos was lying to Bill about
> something that Nyikos had made up in his own mind that had supposedly
> occurred in another thread. It was so stupid that we talked past each
> other for several posts until Nyikos put up the link to the post he
> was claiming that I had lied about him in, and it turned out that
> Nyikos had just made the whole thing up. He had manipulated the post
> so that you could not readily see what I had actually said, but when I
> put the whole thing up as it was before the Nyikos manipulation it was
> clear that I had stated exactly what Nyikos was guilty of and that I
> had never lied about it. When Nyikos was confronted by his stupidity
> he ran and started the Scottish verdict thread.
>
> Nyikos confronted by his stupidity:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a995034f6931eba4?hl=en
>
> Nyikos snipping and running:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a492a4c2a42f5484?hl=en
>
> Nyikos getting called on snipping and running:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2a9eb8898289a07f?hl=en
>
> same thing.
>
> Scottish verdict on accusation of a "bait and switch scam"http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2437ba1ac91c46ef
>
> My response:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/8aa75c789ebedeb3
>
> And it goes on with Nyikos running from these posts in the Scottish
Kleuskes & Moos
> “Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and
> falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
The key word is of course "falsely". Besides, getting your arse
handed back to you on a platter on a public forum does not count as
persecution.
> “Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the
> same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
"Thou shalt bear no false witness" is from the same book. Yes?
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Glenn
"Kleuskes & Moos" <kle...@somewhere.else.net> wrote in message
news:j6ss1d$o29$1...@dont-email.me...
> On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:05:19 -0700, iaoua iaoua wrote:
>
> > "Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and
> > falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
>
> The key word is of course "falsely". Besides, getting your arse
> handed back to you on a platter on a public forum does not count as
> persecution.
I suspect Ron thinks so, since he has had his handed to him many times, and
yet continues back begging for more.
>
> > "Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the
> > same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
>
> "Thou shalt bear no false witness" is from the same book. Yes?
>
Yes, but apparently not from everyone's book.
Ernest Major
<iaoua-dad1cc87-fa41-4...@d26g2000vby.googlegroups.com>
, iaoua iaoua <iaoua...@gmail.com> writes
>falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. “Rejoice
>and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way
>they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
>
--
alias Ernest Major
Kleuskes & Moos
> "Kleuskes & Moos" <kle...@somewhere.else.net> wrote in message
> news:j6ss1d$o29$1...@dont-email.me...
>> On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:05:19 -0700, iaoua iaoua wrote:
>>
>> > "Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and
>> > falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
>>
>> The key word is of course "falsely". Besides, getting your arse handed
>> back to you on a platter on a public forum does not count as
>> persecution.
>
> I suspect Ron thinks so, since he has had his handed to him many times,
> and yet continues back begging for more.
Ah yes, bait&switch. I would say the same if i were you. It's false of course
and Ron O. did not declare himself to be a saint, but still, the comparison
holds water in pretty much the same way a sieve does.
<snip another attempt at making snide remarks>
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> On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:24:07 -0700, Glenn wrote:
>
> > "Kleuskes & Moos" <kle...@somewhere.else.net> wrote in message
> > news:j6ss1d$o29$1...@dont-email.me...
> >> On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:05:19 -0700, iaoua iaoua wrote:
> >>
> >> > "Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and
> >> > falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
> >>
> >> The key word is of course "falsely". Besides, getting your arse handed
> >> back to you on a platter on a public forum does not count as
> >> persecution.
> >
> > I suspect Ron thinks so, since he has had his handed to him many times,
> > and yet continues back begging for more.
>
> Ah yes, bait&switch. I would say the same if i were you. It's false of
course
> and Ron O. did not declare himself to be a saint, but still, the
comparison
> holds water in pretty much the same way a sieve does.
>
> <snip another attempt at making snide remarks>
>
Ron O
> �Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and
> falsely �say �all �kinds �of evil against you because of Me.
> �Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the
> same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
>
> JC
>
Persecute? With 6 other similar "Day" posts I didn't think that I had
to read them and try to pick the least ridiculous one. Sorry if I
picked one that you don't think is up to snuff. You could put in
links to your best posts if you want. Heck, you even have the 8th day
posted up.
If you don't want people to read them do not post them. If you do not
like your associates you could get on their cases and try to get them
to improve. It is possible. Look at how much Ray has improved since
this series started. Anyone can go to the earliest ones back a couple
years and see how bad it was.
Ron Okimoto
>
>
>
> > This is the list of the usual rabble that defend various forms of
> > creationism. �The title reflects the Biblical quote on the matter, and
> > these are the fruit of the creationist movement. �Can you judge
> > something by the fruit that it produces? �The Bible makes that claim.
> > You can use Google to get to the posters profiles to read as many of
> > their posts as you can stand. �The usual disclaimers are that these
> > guys are often a select group. �They are the only ones left that want
> > to try to support things like scientific creationism or intelligent
> > design, often after years of the same pathetic nonsense. �You do
> > usually have to read multiple posts from these posters to get a decent
> > idea of what type they are. �I select posts from random from the last
> > couple of weeks of threads. �If I happen to find a post that makes the
> > poster look too bad I pick another, so you likely are not going to get
> > a feel for the posters with just one hit.
>
> > The May thread with a link back to other fruit threads:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/9cf27bed6264a0fc?hl=e...
>
> > Herman:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2fe179a12361d9ef?hl=en
>
> > Pagano. �I think that Pags has been getting worse if that is possible.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/f16c80526dec2444?hl=en
>
> > Jihadist:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/ee87b5e7e034714d?hl=en
>
> > Ray Martinez:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/4e07f0a3b551f48d?hl=en
>
> > Glenn:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/380806afbc0e4bd9?hl=en
>
> > Alan Kleinman MD PhD. �What a waste of an education if he really has
> > these degrees.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/0d18185cc8da7f39?hl=en
>
> > sadovnik socratus Loki?http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/c21b906733515b83?hl=en
>
> > Suzanne: �Ever upbeat, she likely is in the wrong forum.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6eb6ca4760132c14?hl=en
>
> > iaoua iaoua. Tthere are 6 previous day posts if this one isn t enough.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a495552ea99e1521?hl=en
>
> > Backspace. �Still trying to redefine reality.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a495552ea99e1521?hl=en
>
> > rmj?:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/42325314ecb3d4d6?hl=en
>
> > Anthony022071:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/035babb0ad560540?hl=en
>
> > Kalkidas is supposedly the brains of the current IDiots and a Hindu
> > creationist.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/aaa5b09cb12d4de3?hl=en
>
> > davenorthey. �He may not belong on the list but he has his own version
> > of hell described in this post.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a053eaaf403ba3e3?hl=en
>
> > quantum.dotproduct. �I can t tell, but he sort of fits the profile.
> > Could just be someone like JTEM.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6e1b7a5a69819847?hl=en
>
> > Nashton:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/3935cd545df6b462?hl=en
>
> > Brett Schubert? �I only put him up because if he was on the dark side
> > he seemed to be very nice about it in the half dozen posts he put up.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/c093feaf6ef1047c?hl=en
>
> > tapehead? �Didn t post enough to tell.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/0c9d1e9da0e94d99?hl=en
>
> > Last, but not least is pnyikos. �He just reminded me that it was time
> > for another survey, so it is only fitting that he should take center
> > stage. �He is also likely to shed some light on the lies that the ID
> > perps and any of their IDiot followers have to keep telling themselves
> > to keep the ID scam going.
>
> > Nyikos started his latest thread when he had to run from the sub
> > thread of his dirty debating thread (The Central Issue Re: Dirty
> > Debating Tactics 1: The Broken.Usenet.Promise):
> > Insane "logic" from Ron Ohttp://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/4f3e2c442207abea?hl=en
>
> > My response:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a176126322b4cc26?hl=en
>
> > The posts that Nyikos was running from to start the Insane logic
> > thread:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/3b97e1564472c17d?hl=e...
>
> > Nyikos always whines about documentation, but what does he do when he
> > gets it?
>
> > Dirty Debating Tactics 1: The Broken.Usenet.Promise. �Nyikos made two
> > posts to start this thread. �I didn t take notice of the thread, but
> > Nyikos demanded that I come to the thread and respond to his posts. �I
> > did and Nyikos ran.
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/ad41e606c0c0b274?hl=e...
>
> > My responses:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6bd5ffca9ec4bcd7?hl=e...
>
> > In another thread Nyikos claimed that the first two posts in the
> > thread were not the ones that he had wanted me to respond to, and
> > directed me to his second post to Bill in that thread. �Why I am
> > supposed to respond to the second post to someone else was never
> > explained. �It turned out that Nyikos was lying to Bill about
> > something that Nyikos had made up in his own mind that had supposedly
> > occurred in another thread. �It was so stupid that we talked past each
> > other for several posts until Nyikos put up the link to the post he
> > was claiming that I had lied about him in, and it turned out that
> > Nyikos had just made the whole thing up. �He had manipulated the post
> > so that you could not readily see what I had actually said, but when I
> > put the whole thing up as it was before the Nyikos manipulation it was
> > clear that I had stated exactly what Nyikos was guilty of and that I
> > had never lied about it. �When Nyikos was confronted by his stupidity
> > he ran and started the Scottish verdict thread.
>
> > Nyikos confronted by his stupidity:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a995034f6931eba4?hl=en
>
> > Nyikos snipping and running:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a492a4c2a42f5484?hl=en
>
> > Nyikos getting called on snipping and running:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2a9eb8898289a07f?hl=en
>
> > So Nyikos started the stupid thread on a false premise and couldn t
> > face that fact, so he had to start another thread to try to do the
> > same thing.
>
> > Scottish verdict on accusation of a "bait and switch scam"http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2437ba1ac91c46ef
>
> > My response:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/8aa75c789ebedeb3
>
> > And it goes on with Nyikos running from these posts in the Scottish
> > verdict thread:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/55739d9161562d83http:...
>
> > There is a pattern here. �Nyikos started the misdirection ploy thread
> > to run from the original thread.
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/9103f16d366f7d45?hl=en
>
> > This is one of the posts Nyikos is running from in the original
> > thread. �I looked and there are quite a few posts waiting for Nyikos'
> > attention in that thread. �This is the guy that claimed that I was
> > running away from a post for three whole days when he had posted it to
> > someone else and there was no reason for me to know that the post
> > existed. �Three days compared to the months Nyikos has been running
> > from some posts and he demands that I participate in other threads
> > that he creates to rag on me. �You can't make this junk up:
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/092d106b63c89963?hl=en
>
> > So Nyikos is a prime fruit of the intelligent design scam. �He is
> > exactly the type of rube that they need to keep the scam rolling.
> > Observing how Nyikos copes with reality over the past 9 months may
> > give some clue why there are still IDiots that support the ID scam.
> > After 9 years of the ID perps running the bait and switch scam on
> > their own creationist support base the only IDiots left are the
> > ignorant, incompetent and or dishonest. �Nyikos is all three rolled
Ron O
> "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleu...@somewhere.else.net> wrote in messagenews:j6ss1d$o29$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> > On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:05:19 -0700, iaoua iaoua wrote:
>
> > > "Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and
> > > falsely �say �all �kinds �of evil against you because of Me.
>
> > The key word is of course "falsely". Besides, getting your arse
> > handed back to you on a platter on a public forum does not count as
> > persecution.
>
> I suspect Ron thinks so, since he has had his handed to him many times, and
> yet continues back begging for more.
I think that the last time we had a run in it ended because you
couldn't figure out what you were trying to argue.
>
> > > "Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the
> > > same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
>
> > "Thou shalt bear no false witness" is from the same book. Yes?
>
> Yes, but apparently not from everyone's book.
When did you give up? When did you stop trying to defend the claptrap
and decide to snipe from the sidelines? That was years ago. You
might be better off than someone like NashTon, but what does that say
about this whole business? I have just posted links to all the guys
on your side of the issue. If I left anyone off it was by accident.
There is no bias, just reality. You have to live with that fact. You
are smart enough to know what that means.
Ron Okimoto
Frank J
> This is the list of the usual rabble that defend various forms of
> creationism. The title reflects the Biblical quote on the matter, and
> these are the fruit of the creationist movement. Can you judge
> something by the fruit that it produces? The Bible makes that claim.
> You can use Google to get to the posters profiles to read as many of
> their posts as you can stand. The usual disclaimers are that these
> guys are often a select group. They are the only ones left that want
> to try to support things like scientific creationism or intelligent
> design, often after years of the same pathetic nonsense. You do
> usually have to read multiple posts from these posters to get a decent
> idea of what type they are. I select posts from random from the last
> couple of weeks of threads. If I happen to find a post that makes the
> poster look too bad I pick another, so you likely are not going to get
> a feel for the posters with just one hit.
>
>
> Herman:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2fe179a12361d9ef?hl=en
>
> Pagano. I think that Pags has been getting worse if that is possible.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/f16c80526dec2444?hl=en
> Jihadist:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/ee87b5e7e034714d?hl=en
>
> Ray Martinez:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/4e07f0a3b551f48d?hl=en
>
> Glenn:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/380806afbc0e4bd9?hl=en
>
> Alan Kleinman MD PhD. What a waste of an education if he really has
>
> sadovnik socratus Loki?http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/c21b906733515b83?hl=en
>
> Suzanne: Ever upbeat, she likely is in the wrong forum.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6eb6ca4760132c14?hl=en
>
> iaoua iaoua. Tthere are 6 previous day posts if this one isn t enough.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a495552ea99e1521?hl=en
>
> Backspace. Still trying to redefine reality.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a495552ea99e1521?hl=en
> rmj?:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/42325314ecb3d4d6?hl=en
>
> Anthony022071:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/035babb0ad560540?hl=en
>
> Kalkidas is supposedly the brains of the current IDiots and a Hindu
> davenorthey. He may not belong on the list but he has his own version
>
> Could just be someone like JTEM.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6e1b7a5a69819847?hl=en
> Nashton:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/3935cd545df6b462?hl=en
>
> Brett Schubert? I only put him up because if he was on the dark side
> he seemed to be very nice about it in the half dozen posts he put up.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/c093feaf6ef1047c?hl=en
>
> Last, but not least is pnyikos. He just reminded me that it was time
> for another survey, so it is only fitting that he should take center
> stage. He is also likely to shed some light on the lies that the ID
> perps and any of their IDiot followers have to keep telling themselves
> to keep the ID scam going.
>
> Nyikos started his latest thread when he had to run from the sub
> thread of his dirty debating thread (The Central Issue Re: Dirty
> Debating Tactics 1: The Broken.Usenet.Promise):
>
> My response:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a176126322b4cc26?hl=en
>
> Nyikos always whines about documentation, but what does he do when he
> gets it?
>
> Dirty Debating Tactics 1: The Broken.Usenet.Promise. Nyikos made two
> did and Nyikos ran.
>
>
> My responses:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6bd5ffca9ec4bcd7?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/cfdc376e913ac915?hl=en
> In another thread Nyikos claimed that the first two posts in the
> thread were not the ones that he had wanted me to respond to, and
> directed me to his second post to Bill in that thread. Why I am
> supposed to respond to the second post to someone else was never
> explained. It turned out that Nyikos was lying to Bill about
> something that Nyikos had made up in his own mind that had supposedly
> occurred in another thread. It was so stupid that we talked past each
> other for several posts until Nyikos put up the link to the post he
> was claiming that I had lied about him in, and it turned out that
> Nyikos had just made the whole thing up. He had manipulated the post
> so that you could not readily see what I had actually said, but when I
> put the whole thing up as it was before the Nyikos manipulation it was
> clear that I had stated exactly what Nyikos was guilty of and that I
> had never lied about it. When Nyikos was confronted by his stupidity
> he ran and started the Scottish verdict thread.
>
> Nyikos confronted by his stupidity:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a995034f6931eba4?hl=en
>
> Nyikos snipping and running:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a492a4c2a42f5484?hl=en
>
> Nyikos getting called on snipping and running:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2a9eb8898289a07f?hl=en
>
> same thing.
>
> Scottish verdict on accusation of a "bait and switch scam"http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2437ba1ac91c46ef
>
> My response:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/8aa75c789ebedeb3
>
> And it goes on with Nyikos running from these posts in the Scottish
> There is a pattern here. Nyikos started the misdirection ploy thread
> to run from the original thread.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/9103f16d366f7d45?hl=en
>
> This is one of the posts Nyikos is running from in the original
> thread. I looked and there are quite a few posts waiting for Nyikos'
> attention in that thread. This is the guy that claimed that I was
> running away from a post for three whole days when he had posted it to
> someone else and there was no reason for me to know that the post
> existed. Three days compared to the months Nyikos has been running
> from some posts and he demands that I participate in other threads
> that he creates to rag on me. You can't make this junk up:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/092d106b63c89963?hl=en
>
> So Nyikos is a prime fruit of the intelligent design scam. He is
> exactly the type of rube that they need to keep the scam rolling.
> Observing how Nyikos copes with reality over the past 9 months may
> give some clue why there are still IDiots that support the ID scam.
> After 9 years of the ID perps running the bait and switch scam on
> their own creationist support base the only IDiots left are the
> ignorant, incompetent and or dishonest. Nyikos is all three rolled
> into one.
>
> If I have left anyone off, add them to the list.
>
> Ron Okimoto
Not to defend his tactics in any way, but he's the "kind" of IDer that
the DI wishes would shut up. He admits too much about his "theory" and
occasionally challenges other evolution-deniers.
Frank J
> �Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and
> �Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the
> same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
>
> JC
>
>
>
>
> > This is the list of the usual rabble that defend various forms of
> > these are the fruit of the creationist movement. �Can you judge
> > something by the fruit that it produces? �The Bible makes that claim.
> > You can use Google to get to the posters profiles to read as many of
> > guys are often a select group. �They are the only ones left that want
> > to try to support things like scientific creationism or intelligent
> > usually have to read multiple posts from these posters to get a decent
> > couple of weeks of threads. �If I happen to find a post that makes the
> > poster look too bad I pick another, so you likely are not going to get
> > a feel for the posters with just one hit.
>
>
> > Herman:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2fe179a12361d9ef?hl=en
>
>
> > Jihadist:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/ee87b5e7e034714d?hl=en
>
> > Ray Martinez:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/4e07f0a3b551f48d?hl=en
>
> > Glenn:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/380806afbc0e4bd9?hl=en
>
> > these degrees.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/0d18185cc8da7f39?hl=en
>
> > sadovnik socratus Loki?http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/c21b906733515b83?hl=en
>
>
> > iaoua iaoua. Tthere are 6 previous day posts if this one isn t enough.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a495552ea99e1521?hl=en
>
>
> > rmj?:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/42325314ecb3d4d6?hl=en
>
> > Anthony022071:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/035babb0ad560540?hl=en
>
> > Kalkidas is supposedly the brains of the current IDiots and a Hindu
> > creationist.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/aaa5b09cb12d4de3?hl=en
>
> > of hell described in this post.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a053eaaf403ba3e3?hl=en
>
> > Could just be someone like JTEM.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6e1b7a5a69819847?hl=en
>
> > Nashton:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/3935cd545df6b462?hl=en
>
> > he seemed to be very nice about it in the half dozen posts he put up.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/c093feaf6ef1047c?hl=en
>
>
> > Last, but not least is pnyikos. �He just reminded me that it was time
> > for another survey, so it is only fitting that he should take center
> > perps and any of their IDiot followers have to keep telling themselves
> > to keep the ID scam going.
>
> > Nyikos started his latest thread when he had to run from the sub
> > thread of his dirty debating thread (The Central Issue Re: Dirty
> > Debating Tactics 1: The Broken.Usenet.Promise):
> > Insane "logic" from Ron Ohttp://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/4f3e2c442207abea?hl=en
>
> > My response:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a176126322b4cc26?hl=en
>
> > The posts that Nyikos was running from to start the Insane logic
>
> > Nyikos always whines about documentation, but what does he do when he
> > gets it?
>
> > posts to start this thread. �I didn t take notice of the thread, but
> > Nyikos demanded that I come to the thread and respond to his posts. �I
> > did and Nyikos ran.
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/ad41e606c0c0b274?hl=e...
>
> > My responses:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6bd5ffca9ec4bcd7?hl=e...
>
> > thread were not the ones that he had wanted me to respond to, and
> > supposed to respond to the second post to someone else was never
> > something that Nyikos had made up in his own mind that had supposedly
> > other for several posts until Nyikos put up the link to the post he
> > was claiming that I had lied about him in, and it turned out that
> > so that you could not readily see what I had actually said, but when I
> > put the whole thing up as it was before the Nyikos manipulation it was
> > clear that I had stated exactly what Nyikos was guilty of and that I
> > he ran and started the Scottish verdict thread.
>
> > Nyikos confronted by his stupidity:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a995034f6931eba4?hl=en
>
> > Nyikos snipping and running:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a492a4c2a42f5484?hl=en
>
> > Nyikos getting called on snipping and running:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2a9eb8898289a07f?hl=en
>
> > So Nyikos started the stupid thread on a false premise and couldn t
> > face that fact, so he had to start another thread to try to do the
> > same thing.
>
> > Scottish verdict on accusation of a "bait and switch scam"http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2437ba1ac91c46ef
>
> > My response:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/8aa75c789ebedeb3
>
> > And it goes on with Nyikos running from these posts in the Scottish
>
> > There is a pattern here. �Nyikos started the misdirection ploy thread
> > to run from the original thread.
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/9103f16d366f7d45?hl=en
>
> > This is one of the posts Nyikos is running from in the original
> > attention in that thread. �This is the guy that claimed that I was
> > running away from a post for three whole days when he had posted it to
> > someone else and there was no reason for me to know that the post
> > from some posts and he demands that I participate in other threads
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/092d106b63c89963?hl=en
>
> > So Nyikos is a prime fruit of the intelligent design scam. �He is
> > exactly the type of rube that they need to keep the scam rolling.
> > Observing how Nyikos copes with reality over the past 9 months may
> > give some clue why there are still IDiots that support the ID scam.
> > After 9 years of the ID perps running the bait and switch scam on
> > their own creationist support base the only IDiots left are the
> > into one.
>
> > If I have left anyone off, add them to the list.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
After being imprisoned (or having your wife imprisoned, I forget
which) and forced to nearly freeze to death in the snowy mountains,
you must find our "persecution" about as painful as drinking a light
beer.
Boikat
> “Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and
> falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
> “Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the
> same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
>
Boikat
Ilas
news:iaoua-dad1cc87-fa41-4...@d26g2000vby.googlegroups.
com:
> �Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and
> falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
> �Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the
> same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
No, it's not persecution, it's laughing at you and your ever more ludicrous
(but strangely entertaining) tales. Persecution is what you do to the poor
old Albanian mafia, when you smite them with the word of the lord while
climbing K2 buck naked with 12 beautiful Ukranian women clinging to you for
dear life.
Ernest Major
<4769c16c-c805-4ce8...@h10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Ron
O <roki...@cox.net> writes
You have been casting your net rather wide. Not every one on the list is
demonstratably a creationist. Perhaps Glenn is objecting to being
identified as a creationist.
Jihadist - Muslim apologetician; while it would not be surprising to
find that he is a creationist I have seen no positive evidence.
Glenn - hasn't to my knowledge espoused creationism for years.
sadovnik socratus - incoherent, but not obviously a creationist.
However, since I pretty much ignore his posts, I may have missed the
evidence.
davenorthey - you conceded a lack of reasons to infer that he was a
creationist
iaoua iaoua - not a convincing Christian never mind a creationist.
Brett Schubert - no strong reason to infer that he was a creationist
tapehead - if he didn't post enough to tell he should have been on the
list.
Nyikos - Christian apologetician, who denies being a creationist.
By casting your net wide, what you end up presenting is not the fruits
of creationism, but the fruits of Christianity (which would be shooting
yourself in your foot) or even the fruits of humanity.
--
alias Ernest Major
Ron O
> In message
> <4769c16c-c805-4ce8-afc5-f230c3cf0...@h10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Ron
> O <rokim...@cox.net> writes
Being a creationist isn't the main factor in making the list. It
doesn't matter because Glenn is definitely a creationist unless he has
become an atheist or agnostic. Nyikos is also a creationist. These
guys might not be YEC, but they are creationists. You seem to be
taking things a little too narrowly. They use a lot of the same basic
arguments. What about Kalk makes him less of a creationist because he
is a hindu creationist? I never claimed that these guys were YEC,
only that they fit the general profile.
I could be wrong about some of these guys because they haven't posted
enough to tell, but I am definitely not wrong about Nyikos and Glenn.
Nyikos even admitted that he wasn't a YEC, but had an unorthodox view
of God. He only tried to deny that he was a creationist for the same
bogus reason that the ID perps try to deny that they are
creationists. They want to pretend that they are doing their bogus
junk for scientific reasons and not because of their religious
beliefs.
There are other creationists that post to TO that do not make this
list. You have to buy into the ID scam or the anti evolution claptrap
to make the list. If you go back to some of the past threads you will
see that I cite the Clergy Letter project as an alternative. Those
guys do not make the list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clergy_Letter_Project
Ken Miller wouldn't make the list. An evangelical Christian such as
Francis Collins (He headed the human genome project) wouldn't make the
list either.
Ron Okimoto
Kleuskes & Moos
> "Kleuskes & Moos" <kle...@somewhere.else.net> wrote in message
> news:j6stnf$o29$4...@dont-email.me...
>> On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:24:07 -0700, Glenn wrote:
>>
>> > "Kleuskes & Moos" <kle...@somewhere.else.net> wrote in message
>> > news:j6ss1d$o29$1...@dont-email.me...
>> >> On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:05:19 -0700, iaoua iaoua wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > "Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and
>> >> > falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
>> >>
>> >> The key word is of course "falsely". Besides, getting your arse
>> >> handed back to you on a platter on a public forum does not count as
>> >> persecution.
>> >
>> > I suspect Ron thinks so, since he has had his handed to him many
>> > times, and yet continues back begging for more.
>>
>> Ah yes, bait&switch. I would say the same if i were you. It's false of
> course
>> and Ron O. did not declare himself to be a saint, but still, the
> comparison
>> holds water in pretty much the same way a sieve does.
>>
>> <snip another attempt at making snide remarks>
>>
> Yet you don't think your remarks were snide.
> May I call you Professor Snide?
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Frank J
>
> - Show quoted text -
(note: this reply is to everyone, not just you)
Ya see!!! Ya see why I practically stopped using the word
"creationist"? And to a bit lesser extent "creationism"?
Most critics have one definition in mind: "One who misunderstands or
misrepresents evolution, and pretends to have some 'design based'
alternate 'explanation,' but has a paranoid obsession with 'Darwinism'
that is matched only by one's refusal to elaborate on, much less test
one's own 'explanation."
That definition covers a lot of ground, including all the trolls here
(some who may be Lokis), but as you note, *excludes* evangelical
Christians like Francis Collins, who insist the designer is God, and
who would easily call himself a "creationist" if had not been so
corrupted. IIRC even Dobzanzky called himself a "creationist" before
the word was so closely associated with pseudoscience.
The public, however, has a very different definiton: "One who honestly
believes that God created many different 'kinds' all at once, 'a long
time ago' just as described in the Bible." Most ID peddlers do not
believe that, despite having a scam that promotes it indirectly. They
only need to admit that the *Earth* (not even life) is billions of
years old, and they will fool the public into thinking that they are
not "creationists."
Ironically many people can be fooled - depending on which point the ID
scam artist is trying to make - into thinking that Collins and Miller
are "creationists," while Behe and Dembski are not. How better to
peddle the bogus "dissent" statement?
Every time an ID scam artist whines that "ID is not creationism" and
we reply with "Is too creationism" we hand them a victory on a silver
platter. It's really frustrating, because it's so easy to expose their
word games. Certainly we need to expose the "cdesign proponentsists"
connection at every opportunity, but that's only *half* the story.
Ray Martinez
> This is the list of the usual rabble that defend various forms of
> creationism. �The title reflects the Biblical quote on the matter, and
> these are the fruit of the creationist movement. �Can you judge
> something by the fruit that it produces? �The Bible makes that claim.
> You can use Google to get to the posters profiles to read as many of
> their posts as you can stand. �The usual disclaimers are that these
> guys are often a select group. �They are the only ones left that want
> to try to support things like scientific creationism or intelligent
> design, often after years of the same pathetic nonsense. �You do
> usually have to read multiple posts from these posters to get a decent
> idea of what type they are. �I select posts from random from the last
> couple of weeks of threads. �If I happen to find a post that makes the
> poster look too bad I pick another, so you likely are not going to get
> a feel for the posters with just one hit.
>
>
> Herman:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2fe179a12361d9ef?hl=en
>
> Pagano. �I think that Pags has been getting worse if that is possible.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/f16c80526dec2444?hl=en
>
> Jihadist:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/ee87b5e7e034714d?hl=en
>
> Ray Martinez:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/4e07f0a3b551f48d?hl=en
>
> Glenn:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/380806afbc0e4bd9?hl=en
>
> Alan Kleinman MD PhD. �What a waste of an education if he really has
>
> sadovnik socratus Loki?http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/c21b906733515b83?hl=en
>
> Suzanne: �Ever upbeat, she likely is in the wrong forum.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6eb6ca4760132c14?hl=en
>
> iaoua iaoua. Tthere are 6 previous day posts if this one isn t enough.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a495552ea99e1521?hl=en
>
> Backspace. �Still trying to redefine reality.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a495552ea99e1521?hl=en
>
> rmj?:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/42325314ecb3d4d6?hl=en
>
> Anthony022071:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/035babb0ad560540?hl=en
>
> Kalkidas is supposedly the brains of the current IDiots and a Hindu
>
> davenorthey. �He may not belong on the list but he has his own version
>
> Could just be someone like JTEM.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6e1b7a5a69819847?hl=en
>
> Nashton:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/3935cd545df6b462?hl=en
>
> Brett Schubert? �I only put him up because if he was on the dark side
> he seemed to be very nice about it in the half dozen posts he put up.http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/c093feaf6ef1047c?hl=en
>
>
> Last, but not least is pnyikos. �He just reminded me that it was time
> for another survey, so it is only fitting that he should take center
> stage. �He is also likely to shed some light on the lies that the ID
> perps and any of their IDiot followers have to keep telling themselves
> to keep the ID scam going.
>
> Nyikos started his latest thread when he had to run from the sub
> thread of his dirty debating thread (The Central Issue Re: Dirty
> Debating Tactics 1: The Broken.Usenet.Promise):
>
> My response:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a176126322b4cc26?hl=en
>
> The posts that Nyikos was running from to start the Insane logic
>
> Nyikos always whines about documentation, but what does he do when he
> gets it?
>
> Dirty Debating Tactics 1: The Broken.Usenet.Promise. �Nyikos made two
> Nyikos demanded that I come to the thread and respond to his posts. �I
> did and Nyikos ran.
>
>
> My responses:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/6bd5ffca9ec4bcd7?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/cfdc376e913ac915?hl=en
>
> In another thread Nyikos claimed that the first two posts in the
> thread were not the ones that he had wanted me to respond to, and
> directed me to his second post to Bill in that thread. �Why I am
> supposed to respond to the second post to someone else was never
> explained. �It turned out that Nyikos was lying to Bill about
> something that Nyikos had made up in his own mind that had supposedly
> occurred in another thread. �It was so stupid that we talked past each
> other for several posts until Nyikos put up the link to the post he
> was claiming that I had lied about him in, and it turned out that
> Nyikos had just made the whole thing up. �He had manipulated the post
> so that you could not readily see what I had actually said, but when I
> put the whole thing up as it was before the Nyikos manipulation it was
> clear that I had stated exactly what Nyikos was guilty of and that I
> had never lied about it. �When Nyikos was confronted by his stupidity
> he ran and started the Scottish verdict thread.
>
> Nyikos confronted by his stupidity:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a995034f6931eba4?hl=en
>
> Nyikos snipping and running:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/a492a4c2a42f5484?hl=en
>
> Nyikos getting called on snipping and running:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2a9eb8898289a07f?hl=en
>
> face that fact, so he had to start another thread to try to do the
> same thing.
>
> Scottish verdict on accusation of a "bait and switch scam"http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2437ba1ac91c46ef
>
> My response:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/8aa75c789ebedeb3
>
> And it goes on with Nyikos running from these posts in the Scottish
>
> There is a pattern here. �Nyikos started the misdirection ploy thread
> to run from the original thread.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/9103f16d366f7d45?hl=en
>
> This is one of the posts Nyikos is running from in the original
> thread. �I looked and there are quite a few posts waiting for Nyikos'
> attention in that thread. �This is the guy that claimed that I was
> running away from a post for three whole days when he had posted it to
> someone else and there was no reason for me to know that the post
> existed. �Three days compared to the months Nyikos has been running
> from some posts and he demands that I participate in other threads
> that he creates to rag on me. �You can't make this junk up:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/092d106b63c89963?hl=en
>
> So Nyikos is a prime fruit of the intelligent design scam. �He is
> exactly the type of rube that they need to keep the scam rolling.
> Observing how Nyikos copes with reality over the past 9 months may
> give some clue why there are still IDiots that support the ID scam.
> After 9 years of the ID perps running the bait and switch scam on
> their own creationist support base the only IDiots left are the
> ignorant, incompetent and or dishonest. �Nyikos is all three rolled
> into one.
>
> If I have left anyone off, add them to the list.
>
> Ron Okimoto
The monthly Biblical quote-mine project has appeared.
To all who made nasty Ron's list, congratulations! Nothing is more
gratifying than the disapproval of a person who thinks of himself as a
Christian while accepting the same assumptions about the origin of
nature and biological production that Richard Dawkins accepts.
Ray (Paleyan IDist-species immutabilist)
John S. Wilkins
--
John S. Wilkins, Associate, Philosophy, University of Sydney
http://evolvingthoughts.net
But al be that he was a philosophre,
Yet hadde he but litel gold in cofre
Glenn
"John S. Wilkins" <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote in message
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John S. Wilkins
The young just don't know the classics...
Glenn
John S. Wilkins
Twice you have been nasty for no good reason. Twice is enough. Back into
the killfile...
Glenn
Rolf
> On Oct 9, 8:18 am, Ron O <rokim...@cox.net> wrote:
>> This is the list of the usual rabble that defend various forms of
>> creationism. The title reflects the Biblical quote on the matter, and
>> these are the fruit of the creationist movement. Can you judge
>> something by the fruit that it produces? The Bible makes that claim.
>> You can use Google to get to the posters profiles to read as many of
>> their posts as you can stand. The usual disclaimers are that these
>> guys are often a select group. They are the only ones left that want
>> to try to support things like scientific creationism or intelligent
>> design, often after years of the same pathetic nonsense. You do
>> usually have to read multiple posts from these posters to get a
>> decent
>> idea of what type they are. I select posts from random from the last
>> couple of weeks of threads. If I happen to find a post that makes the
>> poster look too bad I pick another, so you likely are not going to
>> get
>> a feel for the posters with just one hit.
>>
>> The May thread with a link back to other fruit
>>
>>
>>
Herman:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/2fe179a12361d9ef?hl=e
n
>>
Please fix that.
Ray is the happiest man on the planet, being disapproved by so many persons!
I only suspect that God may not be too happy with him, but I am certain Ray
can conceive of that as gratifying too.
Kleuskes & Moos
> "John S. Wilkins" <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote in message
> news:1k9188x.1gy5xdwyv11clN%jo...@wilkins.id.au...
>> Glenn <glenns...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
<snip>
>> > > The young just don't know the classics... --
>> > And the old don't know shit.
>>
>> Twice you have been nasty for no good reason. Twice is enough. Back
>> into the killfile...
>> --
> You're imbalanced.
After having thrown many oranges and apples*) Mrs. Banana-Split concluded
that fruit does indeed fly like a banana. She is now desperately looking
for some time flies to see whether or not they like arrows.
*) Had to be both, since anyone knows you can only compare apples and oranges
if you're bananas.
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Walter Bushell
Kleuskes & Moos <kle...@somewhere.else.net> wrote:
> After having thrown many oranges and apples*) Mrs. Banana-Split concluded
> that fruit does indeed fly like a banana. She is now desperately looking
> for some time flies to see whether or not they like arrows.
No, you have to time flies is a job requirement for people who want to
arrows.
--
Ignorance is no protection against reality. -- Paul J Gans
Ron O
SNIP:
I'll add Nowhere Man to this list. He is a new account and likely not
the same Nowhere man of TO legend. Could be a troll, but you can
never tell.
Nowhere Man:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/46c55ac64ec5856b?hl=en
Ron Okimoto