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Nowhere Man

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Oct 30, 2011, 10:42:47 PM10/30/11
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I have read your replies and many of you choose to mock me much as the
way as our Lord was mocked when he came down to Earth to speak the
Truth of the True God. But if am speaking the Truth then you are
mocking the Truth. How does that make you feel? That would be as if I
said two plus two is four and you laughed and said it was five. Who
would be the foolish one then?

You are lucky that the persons who blocks Truthful posts is not around
at this time and I was wise to wait for him to be absent. For normally
you would not even have a chance to hear Truthful words because you do
not even seek them out and that is why I come to you because I have
mercy on you and want you all to have a chance at salvation.

Those who say that I have been here before are claiming that I am the
one who has returned. They think that I am the Great Truth Teller
(GTT) and are trying to confuse you. But I am just a humble man and I
do not claim to be that great but I will try to give you as much of
the Truth that I have before the persons who blocks Truthful posts
returns. A nowhere man is vauge and you do not know who it is so it
can be anyone.

I do not know who this Lilith is and I suspect Mike has made up this
person to confuse everyone from my message, but if I were to have a
debate with anyone there would be no chance they could win because I
use logic and Truth all of the time. They would probably try to cheat
to win because anyone who believed in Evolution as God would know
cheating is the only option in a debate.

If you do not wish to mock me and you wish to know the Truth listen to
this. You have all dedicated your lives to Evolution but if you claim
not to worship Evolution then why do not dedicate your life to
physics? It is because you worship Evolution so do not deny that. But
you need not live in fear because you still can be saved. Accept Jesus
as your savior and let him into your heart. Why do you make up all
these complacted reasons for believing in Evolution when all you have
to do is believe in Jesus as your savior. It is so simple. You say man
was created by the mysterious god of Natural Processes but changing
the name of God does not change that fact of your creation. So if you
accept Jesus that is good and tell the others but if you do not then
ask me what confuses you and I will explain the Truth so that you will
no longer be confused.

guscubed

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Oct 30, 2011, 11:35:06 PM10/30/11
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I'm always wary of people who capitalise perfectly normal nouns.

John S. Wilkins

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Oct 31, 2011, 1:41:57 AM10/31/11
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guscubed <james.pr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm always wary of people who capitalise perfectly normal nouns.

Der Volk?
--
John S. Wilkins, Associate, Philosophy, University of Sydney
http://evolvingthoughts.net
But al be that he was a philosophre,
Yet hadde he but litel gold in cofre

Harry K

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Oct 31, 2011, 12:31:05 AM10/31/11
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On Oct 30, 7:42 pm, Nowhere Man <nwm.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip lies and delusions> Seems there is nothing left.

Harry K


deadrat

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Oct 31, 2011, 2:02:12 AM10/31/11
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guscubed <james.pr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm always wary of people who capitalise perfectly normal nouns.

It's a good thing to be wary of Germans. Not only do they capitalize
nouns with abandon, they put their verbs at the end of their
sentences. By the time you get to the verb, they're already across
the Polish border.


SkyEyes

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Oct 31, 2011, 3:45:48 AM10/31/11
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On Oct 30, 7:42 pm, Nowhere Man <nwm.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
Please provide objective, verifiable evidence that a god - *any* god -
actually exists.

Then we'll talk.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

J. J. Lodder

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Oct 31, 2011, 3:37:17 AM10/31/11
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Nowhere Man <nwm....@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have read your replies and many of you choose to mock me much as the
> way as our Lord was mocked when he came down to Earth to speak the
> Truth of the True God.

File under: Over the top of the crackpot index,

Jan

J. J. Lodder

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Oct 31, 2011, 3:37:17 AM10/31/11
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John S. Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:

> guscubed <james.pr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm always wary of people who capitalise perfectly normal nouns.
>
> Der Volk?

Ach so,

Jan

Mike Dworetsky

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Oct 31, 2011, 5:47:49 AM10/31/11
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Nowhere Man wrote:
> I have read your replies and many of you choose to mock me much as the
> way as our Lord was mocked when he came down to Earth to speak the
> Truth of the True God. But if am speaking the Truth then you are
> mocking the Truth. How does that make you feel? That would be as if I
> said two plus two is four and you laughed and said it was five. Who
> would be the foolish one then?
>
> You are lucky that the persons who blocks Truthful posts is not around
> at this time and I was wise to wait for him to be absent. For normally
> you would not even have a chance to hear Truthful words because you do
> not even seek them out and that is why I come to you because I have
> mercy on you and want you all to have a chance at salvation.
>
> Those who say that I have been here before are claiming that I am the
> one who has returned. They think that I am the Great Truth Teller
> (GTT) and are trying to confuse you. But I am just a humble man and I
> do not claim to be that great but I will try to give you as much of
> the Truth that I have before the persons who blocks Truthful posts
> returns. A nowhere man is vauge and you do not know who it is so it
> can be anyone.
>
> I do not know who this Lilith is and I suspect Mike has made up this
> person to confuse everyone from my message, but if I were to have a
> debate with anyone there would be no chance they could win because I

If you are the same Nowhere Man who engaged in an online debate in 2004 in
the talk.origins newsgroup, then you have a convenient though understandable
case of amnesia, because Lilith handed you your ass on a plate. If you are
not the same Nowhere Man, but just chose the same "handle", then you are
pretty unoriginal and have poor judgement considering the poor reputation of
the original NWM following the debate in 2004:

http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/browse_thread/thread/a2d2f22459e2ef5a/8538482514b88204?hl=en&q=

Mind the wrap.

> use logic and Truth all of the time. They would probably try to cheat
> to win because anyone who believed in Evolution as God would know
> cheating is the only option in a debate.

Better go look up the debate on Google Groups archive.

>
> If you do not wish to mock me and you wish to know the Truth listen to
> this. You have all dedicated your lives to Evolution but if you claim
> not to worship Evolution then why do not dedicate your life to
> physics? It is because you worship Evolution so do not deny that. But
> you need not live in fear because you still can be saved. Accept Jesus
> as your savior and let him into your heart. Why do you make up all
> these complacted reasons for believing in Evolution when all you have
> to do is believe in Jesus as your savior. It is so simple. You say man
> was created by the mysterious god of Natural Processes but changing
> the name of God does not change that fact of your creation. So if you
> accept Jesus that is good and tell the others but if you do not then
> ask me what confuses you and I will explain the Truth so that you will
> no longer be confused.

--
Mike Dworetsky

(Remove pants sp*mbl*ck to reply)

Rolf

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Oct 31, 2011, 6:45:55 AM10/31/11
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Nowhere Man wrote:
> I have read your replies and many of you choose to mock me much as the
> way as our Lord was mocked when he came down to Earth to speak the
> Truth of the True God. But if am speaking the Truth then you are
> mocking the Truth. How does that make you feel?

Since you are not speaking either truth or Truth, I only feel sorry for you.
How does it make you feel that you are not speaking either truth or Truth?

That would be as if I
> said two plus two is four and you laughed and said it was five. Who
> would be the foolish one then?
>

Find something better to do; reading comic strips is more like your level.

[


J. J. Lodder

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Oct 31, 2011, 7:01:38 AM10/31/11
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Serves them right for having invented reverse-Polish,

Jan

John Stockwell

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Oct 31, 2011, 11:05:59 AM10/31/11
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So, let's see you are another delusional crank with a Jesus complex.
I suppose
you want us to crucify you now?

Bob Casanova

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Oct 31, 2011, 2:08:24 PM10/31/11
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:37:17 +0200, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
Lodder):

>> I have read your replies and many of you choose to mock me much as the
>> way as our Lord was mocked when he came down to Earth to speak the
>> Truth of the True God.

>File under: Over the top of the crackpot index,

Subcategory: "I'm the equal of God!"

(Corrected by removal of attribution as required by the
nonexistent rules of CW.)
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

hersheyh

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Oct 31, 2011, 3:21:09 PM10/31/11
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With a significant persecution complex (with so little justification) as well as a bit of an out-sized ego.

Mitchell Coffey

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Oct 31, 2011, 6:48:51 PM10/31/11
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On 10/31/2011 1:41 AM, John S. Wilkins wrote:
> guscubed<james.pr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm always wary of people who capitalise perfectly normal nouns.
>
> Der Volk?

Das Kapital?

Oder Des Kapitals Folk...


Mitchell

Burkhard

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Nov 17, 2011, 2:33:44 AM11/17/11
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On Oct 31, 6:02 am, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
"There are ten parts of speech, and they are all troublesome. An
average sentence, in a German newspaper, is a sublime and impressive
curiosity; it occupies a quarter of a column; it contains all the ten
parts of speech -- not in regular order, but mixed; it is built mainly
of compound words constructed by the writer on the spot, and not to be
found in any dictionary -- six or seven words compacted into one,
without joint or seam -- that is, without hyphens; it treats of
fourteen or fifteen different subjects, each enclosed in a parenthesis
of its own, with here and there extra parentheses, making pens with
pens: finally, all the parentheses and reparentheses are massed
together between a couple of king-parentheses, one of which is placed
in the first line of the majestic sentence and the other in the middle
of the last line of it -- AFTER WHICH COMES THE VERB, and you find out
for the first time what the man has been talking about; and after the
verb -- merely by way of ornament, as far as I can make out -- the
writer shovels in "HABEN SIND GEWESEN GEHABT HABEN GEWORDEN SEIN," or
words to that effect, and the monument is finished. I suppose that
this closing hurrah is in the nature of the flourish to a man's
signature -- not necessary, but pretty. German books are easy enough
to read when you hold them before the looking-glass or stand on your
head -- so as to reverse the construction -- but I think that to learn
to read and understand a German newspaper is a thing which must always
remain an impossibility to a foreigner. "

Mark Twain

Harry K

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Nov 17, 2011, 11:22:06 AM11/17/11
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I spotted the author only a few sentences in. One of the greatest
satirist of all time.

I spent 6 years total in Germany and never got beyond 'bedroom
Deutsch'. I spent 30 months total in Syacuse U learning Russian for
the AF. Very structured language. Look at a verb, a noun, and
adjustive and you knew everything about it, gender, declension,
conjugation, etc. Tried to learn German formally but gave up when I
found that you had to memorize the gender of every noun as there was
no clue, nor even rhyme or reason to what gender it had.

Harry K

Mark Isaak

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Nov 17, 2011, 12:51:52 PM11/17/11
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It could be worse. We might be coerced to learn English.

--
Mark Isaak eciton (at) curioustaxonomy (dot) net
"It is certain, from experience, that the smallest grain of natural
honesty and benevolence has more effect on men's conduct, than the most
pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume

Don Cates

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Nov 17, 2011, 1:56:29 PM11/17/11
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Hmmm, the signature appears after the third sentence, so I got it after
a few sentences, too!

One of the greatest
> satirist of all time.

Yes, he is very good.
>
> I spent 6 years total in Germany and never got beyond 'bedroom
> Deutsch'. I spent 30 months total in Syacuse U learning Russian for
> the AF. Very structured language. Look at a verb, a noun, and
> adjustive and you knew everything about it, gender, declension,
> conjugation, etc. Tried to learn German formally but gave up when I
> found that you had to memorize the gender of every noun as there was
> no clue, nor even rhyme or reason to what gender it had.
>
> Harry K
>


--
--
Don Cates ("he's a cunning rascal" PN)

Harry K

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Nov 17, 2011, 2:57:36 PM11/17/11
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On Nov 17, 9:51 am, Mark Isaak <eci...@curioustaxonomyNOSPAM.net>
wrote:
>   pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yep although I think English would be a bit easier. As long as you
know the correct words, the proper order etc. doesn't really matter
that much, you can still make yourself understood.

I would hate to be an instructor in either language though :)

Harry K

Burkhard

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Nov 17, 2011, 4:01:28 PM11/17/11
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Yes, on that he also had something to say :o) I really like his account
of this travels through Europe, and I give my students the chapter with
his "comparative analysis of duels in Germany, France and the US"
in my evidence and alternative dispute resolution classes.

Kermit

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Nov 18, 2011, 4:28:01 PM11/18/11
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On Oct 30, 6:42 pm, Nowhere Man <nwm.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have read your replies and many of you choose to mock me much as the
> way as our Lord was mocked when he came down to Earth to speak the
> Truth of the True God.

While some prefer to mock you as was Bozo the clown.

> But if am speaking the Truth then you are
> mocking the Truth.

And if you are speaking like an idiot, then I am mocking idiocy.

> How does that make you feel?

How does it make you feel to avoid introspection?

> That would be as if I
> said two plus two is four and you laughed and said it was five. Who
> would be the foolish one then?

And if we offered verifiable evidence, which you
refused to look at because you fear not being
important. would that make you important, or simply
fearful?

>
<bored now>

Kermit

*Hemidactylus*

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Nov 18, 2011, 5:00:19 PM11/18/11
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On 10/31/2011 02:08 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:37:17 +0200, the following appeared
> in talk.origins, posted by nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
> Lodder):
>
>>> I have read your replies and many of you choose to mock me much as the
>>> way as our Lord was mocked when he came down to Earth to speak the
>>> Truth of the True God.
>
>> File under: Over the top of the crackpot index,
>
> Subcategory: "I'm the equal of God!"
>
> (Corrected by removal of attribution as required by the
> nonexistent rules of CW.)

Recently read Virtually You by Elias Aboujaoude

http://www.amazon.com/Virtually-You-Dangerous-Powers-Personality/dp/0393070646

and he might take a far too dim view of online culture, but one part of
his book was particularly funny. He goes on about net addiction and said
something about a twelve step program for net addicts, but went on to
muse that people's online avatars become so God-like in nature that it
would be difficult for them (like done in A.A.-type programs) to submit
to a higher power.

As we see God-squadders come here with no semblance of humility, I have
a hard time envisioning any of them bowing in prayer in a pew.

(cue farting in church...own pew pun cascade sequence now...)

*Hemidactylus*

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Nov 18, 2011, 5:01:48 PM11/18/11
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Egocentric god-squadders can't submit to higher powers.

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