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May GOD forgive neighbor Rosie O'Donnell, whom I love uncondtionally,
for she does not have control over her tongue.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
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Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d3b7b57d0fbf89ed?
P.S. Just called the 212-467-7777 number and spoke to Pandora with ABC.
Be sure to say it is personal since the concerns you have are personal
in nature since LORD Jesus Christ is your personal Savior.
sensi:
In my view Rosie has a right to have her view.
I can kind of see her point. Many times Christians play the role of I'm
better than you, haha, always with that tone of arrogance that is no
different than the tone of arrogance a Muslim might use with the same I'm
better than you haha attitude..
The conflict is with "arrogance' in both sets of religions. Who wins when
playing the I'm better than you kind of attitude especially using God or
even Allah to promote the unnecessary attitude on both sides.
Wars are fought over who is the 'better man" with the best ideas of God and
God supposedly favors the man with the best idea of truth but turns out
truth is not about who is has best idea in all the land.. Truth is about
loving your neighbor, treating them with respect even when they are Muslim
and trying to convert them by telling them they're religions stinks only
adds fuel to the fire, vice versa.
I don't know if Rosie is atheist or not but I'm sure she felt a need to say
what was on her mind just like you say to all your adversaries, "May God
heal their heart," of which they're not that crazy about you telling them
their heart is worse off than yours. See,you're setting up a pattern of
arrogant thinking on your part but you don't realize you're doing it but
it's *your* view of them.
Sensi
Well if one takes into consideration that some "Christians"
await the following:
Revelation 9
15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared
for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay
the third part of men.
Because the Bible *says so*!
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> May GOD forgive neighbor Rosie O'Donnell, whom I love uncondtionally,
> for she does not have control over her tongue.
Another Assumption by you.
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>
>
Werner Kurator
--
==========================================================
"Like all translations of the Bible, made as they are by
imperfect man, this one undoubtedly falls short of its goals. Yet
we are grateful to God for the extent to which he has enabled us
to realize these goals and for the strength he has given us and
our colleagues to complete our task."
Preface to the "New International Version" of the Bible
June 1978
(Revised August 1983)
==============================================================
"I am writing for the 'Christian agnostic,' by which I mean a
person who... thought he is sure of many Christians truth,
feels that he cannot honestly and conscientiously 'sign on the
dotted line' that he believes certain theological ideas about
what some branches of the Church dogmatize."
"LESLIE D. WEATHERHEAD's thoughtful and compelling Christian
writings brought him worldwide acclaim during his lifetime. His
many other books include "the will of God", "The Autobiography
of Jesus", "Life begins at death", "The meaning of the Cross",
"Prescription for anxiety", and "time for God". Dr. Weatherhead
served as the pastor of City Temple in London, England, from
1936 until 1960"
== quote taken from the back-cover of his "the Christian Agnostic"...
==============================================================
And I'd just like to be the first to come down from
Heaven, shake your hand, and say those magic words,
"I DON'T GIVE A SHIT MORON, DIE, DIE, DIE
-- Charlie Ebert in COLA
No one has written that she does not have such a right.
> I can kind of see her point. Many times Christians play the role of I'm
> better than you, haha, always with that tone of arrogance that is no
> different than the tone of arrogance a Muslim might use with the same I'm
> better than you haha attitude..
The attitude of the terrorists engaged in acts of terror is on an
entirely different level from the "radical Christians" who annoy you by
their being open about their relationship with the risen Christ Jesus.
> The conflict is with "arrogance' in both sets of religions. Who wins when
> playing the I'm better than you kind of attitude especially using God or
> even Allah to promote the unnecessary attitude on both sides.
> Wars are fought over who is the 'better man" with the best ideas of God and
> God supposedly favors the man with the best idea of truth but turns out
> truth is not about who is has best idea in all the land.. Truth is about
> loving your neighbor, treating them with respect even when they are Muslim
> and trying to convert them by telling them they're religions stinks only
> adds fuel to the fire, vice versa.
Actually, loving your neighbor is a commandment of the truth, Who is
LORD Jesus Christ.
> I don't know if Rosie is atheist or not but I'm sure she felt a need to say
> what was on her mind just like you say to all your adversaries, "May God
> heal their heart,"
Actually, that is my prayer for all my neighbors and myself.
> of which they're not that crazy about you telling them
> their heart is worse off than yours.
It is written that being kind to your enemies results in coals being
heaped on their heads.
> See,you're setting up a pattern of
> arrogant thinking on your part but you don't realize you're doing it but
> it's *your* view of them.
The coals being heaped on their heads is coming from GOD.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts, dear neighbor Sensi whom I love
unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d3b7b57d0fbf89ed?
P.S. The fax number 212-456-1424 works too.
GOD's will be done and not our will.
May HE continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Werner whom I
love unconditionally.
Rosie was lead pipe dead-on right. Good to hear someone FINALLY
with the guts to say it on national tv.
sensi:
I think what annoys people is not so much our relationship with Jesus
Christ, it's how the relationship
is often smeared like mud in others faces.
As far as terroist acts I'm not blaming Christians for that but I do see a
typical across the board attitude that Christians think they're better
people. God's chosen and when you talk chosen and try to exlude others it
only causes conflict. The conflict grows and grows into hatred, hatred
begets fear, fear begets action and it becomes a war of who is God's chosen?
>> The conflict is with "arrogance' in both sets of religions. Who wins when
>> playing the I'm better than you kind of attitude especially using God or
>> even Allah to promote the unnecessary attitude on both sides.
>> Wars are fought over who is the 'better man" with the best ideas of God
>> and
>> God supposedly favors the man with the best idea of truth but turns out
>> truth is not about who is has best idea in all the land.. Truth is about
>> loving your neighbor, treating them with respect even when they are
>> Muslim
>> and trying to convert them by telling them they're religions stinks only
>> adds fuel to the fire, vice versa.
>
> Actually, loving your neighbor is a commandment of the truth, Who is
> LORD Jesus Christ.
>
sensi:
True....so why is there the notion that you would be chosen as God's people
and a Muslim is not worth the ground they walk on? Religiously speaking.
>> I don't know if Rosie is atheist or not but I'm sure she felt a need to
>> say
>> what was on her mind just like you say to all your adversaries, "May God
>> heal their heart,"
>
> Actually, that is my prayer for all my neighbors and myself.
sensi:
Good, but not all people like to hear that something is very wrong in their
heart while your heart is very right.
>> of which they're not that crazy about you telling them
>> their heart is worse off than yours.
>
> It is written that being kind to your enemies results in coals being
> heaped on their heads.
sensi:
You have enemies? Why?
>> See,you're setting up a pattern of
>> arrogant thinking on your part but you don't realize you're doing it but
>> it's *your* view of them.
>
> The coals being heaped on their heads is coming from GOD.
sensi:
Sounds rather dark and bleak for them if God is telling you to tell them
you're the coal heaper on their poor little heads. .
> May GOD continue to heal our hearts, dear neighbor Sensi whom I love
> unconditionally.
sensi:
Ours...Okay? Please do not heap coal on peoples heads. Thanks.
That would be our daring, young, and flamingly christian heart surgeon,
Dr. Andrew B. DeBakey, at the head of this post.
> How do you know it's not her kidneys that need to be healed, huh?
He'll know tonight when they shrink the Proteus and inject
it into Rosie's left femoral vein.
I lot agree with that.
Youssef
The blood of Christ Jesus offends many but it is what washes us clean
and makes us presentable before GOD Who remains quite angry about our
choosing to kill HIS one and only begotten Son, LORD Jesus Christ all
over again when we deny HIS crucifixion:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp
"These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have
washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Therefore, 'they are before the throne of GOD and serve HIM day and
night in HIS temple; and HE who sits on the throne will spread HIS tent
over them. Never again will they hunger; never again will they thirst.
The sun will not beat upon them, nor any scorching heat. For the Lamb
at the center of the throne will be their shepherd; HE will lead them
to springs of living water. And GOD will wipe away every tear from
their eyes." (Revelation 7:14-17)
Amen !
Laus Deo ! !
Marana tha ! ! !
> As far as terroist acts I'm not blaming Christians for that but I do see a
> typical across the board attitude that Christians think they're better
> people.
They know that they have been chosen by HIM.
> God's chosen and when you talk chosen and try to exlude others it
> only causes conflict.
Actually, it seems our openly demonstrating tolerance and inviting
folks to join us in our walk with Christ Jesus is what is causing
conflict.
> The conflict grows and grows into hatred, hatred
> begets fear, fear begets action and it becomes a war of who is God's chosen?
We know who are GOD's chosen people by the unconditional love that they
have even for their enemies. This is undeniable and obvious to the most
casual observer.
> >> The conflict is with "arrogance' in both sets of religions. Who wins when
> >> playing the I'm better than you kind of attitude especially using God or
> >> even Allah to promote the unnecessary attitude on both sides.
> >> Wars are fought over who is the 'better man" with the best ideas of God
> >> and
> >> God supposedly favors the man with the best idea of truth but turns out
> >> truth is not about who is has best idea in all the land.. Truth is about
> >> loving your neighbor, treating them with respect even when they are
> >> Muslim
> >> and trying to convert them by telling them they're religions stinks only
> >> adds fuel to the fire, vice versa.
> >
> > Actually, loving your neighbor is a commandment of the truth, Who is
> > LORD Jesus Christ.
> >
> sensi:
> True....so why is there the notion that you would be chosen as God's people
> and a Muslim is not worth the ground they walk on?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6b4237a09bc29bbe?
> Religiously speaking.
>
> >> I don't know if Rosie is atheist or not but I'm sure she felt a need to
> >> say
> >> what was on her mind just like you say to all your adversaries, "May God
> >> heal their heart,"
> >
> > Actually, that is my prayer for all my neighbors and myself.
>
> sensi:
> Good, but not all people like to hear that something is very wrong in their
> heart while your heart is very right.
As GOD has created me, I am a cardiologist afterall.
> >> of which they're not that crazy about you telling them
> >> their heart is worse off than yours.
> >
> > It is written that being kind to your enemies results in coals being
> > heaped on their heads.
>
> sensi:
> You have enemies?
Yes.
> Why?
"When they hate you, remember they hated ME first." -- LORD Jesus
Christ.
> >> See,you're setting up a pattern of
> >> arrogant thinking on your part but you don't realize you're doing it but
> >> it's *your* view of them.
> >
> > The coals being heaped on their heads is coming from GOD.
>
> sensi:
> Sounds rather dark and bleak for them if God is telling you to tell them
> you're the coal heaper on their poor little heads. .
"It is my heavenly Father's job to judge, the Holy Spirit's job to
convict, and my job to love." -- Reverend Billy Graham
> > May GOD continue to heal our hearts, dear neighbor Sensi whom I love
> > unconditionally.
>
> sensi:
> Ours...Okay? Please do not heap coal on peoples heads. Thanks.
See above.
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Sensi whom I
love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Haskell whom
I love unconditionally.
> May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Haskell whom
> I love unconditionally.
Come within three feet of me with a stethescope and I'll
sue you for malpractice.
Without the LORD, the heart is filled with fear, anger and despair.
May GOD continue to heal your angry heart, dear neighbor Haskell whom I
love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
It's filled with blood. Ask a doctor.
> May GOD continue to heal your angry heart, dear neighbor Haskell whom I
> love unconditionally.
Bill for services rendered, Dr. Andrew B. Chung
SERVICE CHARGE
Prayed for patient $50,000
It's filled with blood. Ask a doctor.
> May GOD continue to heal your angry heart, dear neighbor Haskell whom I
> love unconditionally.
Bill for services rendered, Dr. Andrew B. Chung
Not the heart of the soul.
"The heart of the soul is filled with spirit." -- Holy Spirit
"For the Word of GOD is living and active. Sharper than any
double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit,
joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart."
(Hebrews 4:12)
> Ask a doctor.
In truth, I am a doctor.
May GOD continue to heal your angry heart, dear neighbor Haskell whom I
love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
There are no "souls." Necessarily, there are no "hearts of
the soul."
> > Ask a doctor.
>
> In truth, I am a doctor.
So was I in an earlier Usenet incarnation. I made up
that bullshit title myself, BTW. Did you?
> May GOD continue to heal your angry heart, dear neighbor Haskell whom I
> love unconditionally.
Long, slow bicycle rides 3x week and an 81 mg baby aspirin each
day will do more by prevention. Ask a doctor.
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
> The following is from a brother in Christ:
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> O'Donnell on ABC: 'Radical Christians' no different than murderous
> radical Muslims
>
> Neither O'Donnell nor ABC has apologized.
She probably could not determine which of the two groups would be the
first to use nuclear weapons in 'The First World Religious War', because
that war has not started yet.
When it does start it may well wipe out a third of humanity........
.........all in the name of imaginary deities.
So there is little need at all to be complacent or indignant is there?
Sensi wrote:
spot on as we Brits say, absolutely spot on
> Who wins when
> playing the I'm better than you kind of attitude especially using God or
> even Allah to promote the unnecessary attitude on both sides.
> Wars are fought over who is the 'better man" with the best ideas of God and
> God supposedly favors the man with the best idea of truth but turns out
> truth is not about who is has best idea in all the land.. Truth is about
> loving your neighbor, treating them with respect even when they are Muslim
> and trying to convert them by telling them they're religions stinks only
> adds fuel to the fire, vice versa.
True true
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
Arrogant bullshit, the only ever *command* was given by an early human, no gods
of any kind involved since thet are ALL a figments of human imagination.
>
>
> > I don't know if Rosie is atheist or not but I'm sure she felt a need to say
> > what was on her mind just like you say to all your adversaries, "May God
> > heal their heart,"
>
> Actually, that is my prayer for all my neighbors and myself.
>
> > of which they're not that crazy about you telling them
> > their heart is worse off than yours.
>
> It is written that being kind to your enemies results in coals being
> heaped on their heads.
>
> > See,you're setting up a pattern of
> > arrogant thinking on your part but you don't realize you're doing it but
> > it's *your* view of them.
>
> The coals being heaped on their heads is coming from GOD.
Idiotic nonsense
Sensi wrote:
The reason is we have two opposing beliefs, one is propagated by an extremely
rich and powerful nation supported by many other countries with the same
religion who are also rich.
The other religion exists mainly in poor third world countries.
The issue is simply a case of envy of one side by the other.
Nothing new of course - we humans have been killing each other over
'possessions' since we were cave dwellers. [We had our gods back then of
course, simple little images crudely carved out of wood and propped up in a
corner to frighten away the evil spirits.]
Nothing changes much does it? In fact i doubt it will change until we wipe out
half of humanity in the name of our imaginary gods using nuclear weapons.
Perhaps a million or so years later the chimps will learn to talk using a
simple language.
Then WATCH OUT for the first chimp god - looking remarkably chimplike !
I deny he ever existed.
Why can you not post something factual
instead of nebulous unprovable claims?
Father Haskell wrote:
More of the kind needs to be said if we are to avoid an international
nuclear war based on religion
Father Haskell wrote:
From what I hear that has already happened
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
> Neighbor Haskell wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Neighbor Haskell wrote:
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Haskell whom
> > > > > I love unconditionally.
> > > >
> > > > Come within three feet of me with a stethescope and I'll
> > > > sue you for malpractice.
> > >
> > > Without the LORD, the heart is filled with fear, anger and despair.
> >
> > It's filled with blood.
>
> Not the heart of the soul.
>
> "The heart of the soul is filled with spirit." -- Holy Spirit
Thank you Andrew,
Now using factual and logical reasoning
explain to all of us 'lesser mortals'
what a 'soul is'
Thanks
[you will avoid mumbo jumbo and bible extracts i do hope]
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
>
> > Neighbor Haskell wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > Neighbor Haskell wrote:
> > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Haskell
> > > > > > whom
> > > > > > I love unconditionally.
> > > > >
> > > > > Come within three feet of me with a stethescope and I'll
> > > > > sue you for malpractice.
> > > >
> > > > Without the LORD, the heart is filled with fear, anger and despair.
> > >
> > > It's filled with blood.
> >
> > Not the heart of the soul.
> >
> > "The heart of the soul is filled with spirit." -- Holy Spirit
>
> Thank you Andrew,
>
> Now using factual and logical reasoning
who decides what is -factual-?
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
Isn't it amazing how we can all be so foolish and heartless and yet God
still love us?
Strange, have I said something about our will?
And yes if you want to *talk* about my will, I wouldn't want to
kill people simply because they don't know, love or believe me,
like a lot of people don't KNOW, believe in and LOVE God.
If I would go and kill a certain cardiologist from Atlanta, our
criminal justice system would put me into jail for some time,
yet god should be *praised* for doing the same?
>
> May HE continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor
> Werner whom I love unconditionally.
"Your hopes and wishes for me
are all meaningless" <- paraphrased reading of "Andrew's" quote
based on "Ecclesiastes" :-)
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Who simply was doing the will of the one God who is greater then
Jesus the man of Nazareth...
<cut Andrew's malformed Sig>
Werner Kurator
--
==========================================================
"Like all translations of the Bible, made as they are by
imperfect man, this one undoubtedly falls short of its goals. Yet
we are grateful to God for the extent to which he has enabled us
to realize these goals and for the strength he has given us and
our colleagues to complete our task."
Preface to the "New International Version" of the Bible
June 1978
(Revised August 1983)
==============================================================
"I am writing for the 'Christian agnostic,' by which I mean a
person who... thought he is sure of many Christians truth,
feels that he cannot honestly and conscientiously 'sign on the
dotted line' that he believes certain theological ideas about
what some branches of the Church dogmatize."
"LESLIE D. WEATHERHEAD's thoughtful and compelling Christian
writings brought him worldwide acclaim during his lifetime. His
many other books include "the will of God", "The Autobiography
of Jesus", "Life begins at death", "The meaning of the Cross",
"Prescription for anxiety", and "time for God". Dr. Weatherhead
served as the pastor of City Temple in London, England, from
1936 until 1960"
== quote taken from the back-cover of his "the Christian Agnostic"...
==============================================================
I remember when everybody posted to Usenet with their real, deliverable
e-mail address. Of all the sins committed by the spammers, destroying
the viability of the open Internet was the worst.
(Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, news.admin.net-abuse.email)
=========
would fit Andrew B.Chung to the letter!
We are discussing acts arising from free will.
> And yes if you want to *talk* about my will, I wouldn't want to
> kill people simply because they don't know, love or believe me,
> like a lot of people don't KNOW, believe in and LOVE God.
Thinking about killing someone is the same as doing it because GOD
knows what is in your heart.
> If I would go and kill a certain cardiologist from Atlanta, our
> criminal justice system would put me into jail for some time,
> yet god should be *praised* for doing the same?
Your thought about killing me is forgiven as far as I am concerned.
Many thanks and much praise and all the glory to GOD for keeping you
from acting on your homicidal ideation.
Most assuredly, without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just, and right.
> > May HE continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor
> > Werner whom I love unconditionally.
>
> "Your hopes and wishes for me
> are all meaningless" <- paraphrased reading of "Andrew's" quote
> based on "Ecclesiastes" :-)
Prayer is never meaningless.
> >
> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Who simply was doing the will of the one God who is greater then
> Jesus the man of Nazareth...
Who is LORD and GOD.
"KING of kings and LORD of lords." (Revelation 19:16)
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating so that you will have time
to find the way, dear neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
Tell it to the folks at Merriam Webster and see if they will remove
their entry:
> > > Ask a doctor.
> >
> > In truth, I am a doctor.
>
> So was I in an earlier Usenet incarnation. I made up
> that bullshit title myself, BTW. Did you?
No.
> > May GOD continue to heal your angry heart, dear neighbor Haskell whom I
> > love unconditionally.
>
> Long, slow bicycle rides 3x week and an 81 mg baby aspirin each
> day will do more by prevention.
Neither will heal your heart.
> Ask a doctor.
Again, in truth, I am most certainly without doubt a doctor.
May GOD continue to heal your heart, near neighbor Haskell whom I love
unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
lol
What was that phrase??? Hmmm.... right... Physician, heal thyself!
> O'Donnell was saying there is no difference between the radical
> Muslims who kill in the name of Allah and Bible-believing Christians
> who follow the teachings of Jesus.
I bet ole Jerry is wondering why she would say something like that.
"This 'turn the other cheek' business is all well and good but it's not what
Jesus fought and died for. What we need to do is take the battle to the
Muslim heathens and do unto them before they do unto us." I" - Jerry Falwell
Hershel
Reminds me of Simon Peter choosing to go from being swordbearer to
swordsman in the garden of Gethsemane.
"Those who live by the sword will die by the sword." -- LORD Jesus
Christ
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Herschel
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>> >>
>> >> Well if one takes into consideration that some "Christians"
>> >> await the following:
>> >>
>> >> Revelation 9 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were
>> >> prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for
>> >> to slay the third part of men.
>> >>
>> >> Because the Bible *says so*!
>> >
>> > GOD's will be done and not our will.
>>
>> Strange, have I said something about our will?
>
> We are discussing acts arising from free will.
When and where? When all I did was post a Bible-passage which
had nothing to do with free will!
Revelation 9
15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared
for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay
the third part of men.
>
>> And yes if you want to *talk* about my will, I wouldn't want
>> to kill people simply because they don't know, love or
>> believe me, like a lot of people don't KNOW, believe in and
>> LOVE God.
>
> Thinking about killing someone is the same as doing it because
> GOD knows what is in your heart.
You are not God, "Dr Hilarious"! So yet when God foretells us
via the book of revelation that humans have it coming, then he
should be praised? You sure measure with two sticks.
>
>> If I would go and kill a certain cardiologist from Atlanta,
>> our criminal justice system would put me into jail for some
>> time, yet god should be *praised* for doing the same?
>
> Your thought about killing me is forgiven as far as I am
> concerned.
Don't need your forgiveness.
> Many thanks and much praise and all the glory to GOD for
> keeping you from acting on your homicidal ideation.
Yet you praise God for *killing* humans, and claim it's the
"will of God", "Dr Hilarious"
>
> Most assuredly, without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just,
> and right.
So then how can he go about killing people, simply because they
don't know, believe in his existence or *LOVE* HIM? Yet me a
sinner, who isn't this God is frowned upon?
>
>> > May HE continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor
>> > Werner whom I love unconditionally.
>>
>> "Your hopes and wishes for me are all meaningless" <-
>> paraphrased reading of "Andrew's" quote based on
>> "Ecclesiastes" :-)
>
> Prayer is never meaningless.
So then why isn't Terry Shiavo no longer among us here on earth?
You know I met quite a few people who prayed for her, maybe you
did so too?
>
>> >
>> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>>
>> Who simply was doing the will of the one God who is greater
>> then Jesus the man of Nazareth...
>
> Who is LORD and GOD.
Matter of opinion... :-)
>
> "KING of kings and LORD of lords." (Revelation 19:16)
Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave
unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly
come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his
servant John:
:-)
You notice the chain, "Dr Hilarious"?
First step:
God gave the revelation to Jesus;
Second step: Jesus passes it on to an Angel;
Third step: the Angel appears to John, telling him the words of
Jesus and God.
>
> May GOD continue to keep your heart beating so that you will
> have time to find the way, dear neighbor Werner whom I love
> unconditionally.
Ah "Dr Hilarious" don't need to worry that I might miss the way.....
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Who was giving all praise to God HIS FATHER *FIRST*
>
> Andrew <><
<cut malformed Sig >
June 1978
Usually, explaining how to wipe their bottoms is in my job description but
doing it for them is not.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
See the OP.
> When all I did was post a Bible-passage which
> had nothing to do with free will!
Without free will, you would not be able to post anything.
> Revelation 9
> 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared
> for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay
> the third part of men.
GOD's will be done and not our will.
> >> And yes if you want to *talk* about my will, I wouldn't want
> >> to kill people simply because they don't know, love or
> >> believe me, like a lot of people don't KNOW, believe in and
> >> LOVE God.
> >
> > Thinking about killing someone is the same as doing it because
> > GOD knows what is in your heart.
>
> You are not God, "Dr Hilarious"!
Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost.
> So yet when God foretells us
> via the book of revelation that humans have it coming, then he
> should be praised? You sure measure with two sticks.
It remains my choice to refrain from judging others per the kind and
helpful suggestion of LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:1-2)
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp
> >> If I would go and kill a certain cardiologist from Atlanta,
> >> our criminal justice system would put me into jail for some
> >> time, yet god should be *praised* for doing the same?
> >
> > Your thought about killing me is forgiven as far as I am
> > concerned.
>
> Don't need your forgiveness.
It remains my choice made through the free will that GOD has generously
given me.
> > Many thanks and much praise and all the glory to GOD for
> > keeping you from acting on your homicidal ideation.
>
> Yet you praise God for *killing* humans, and claim it's the
> "will of God", "Dr Hilarious"
Again, name-calling simply serves to show that you remain lost.
> >
> > Most assuredly, without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just,
> > and right.
>
> So then how can he go about killing people, simply because they
> don't know, believe in his existence or *LOVE* HIM? Yet me a
> sinner, who isn't this God is frowned upon?
The wages of sin is death. These a just wages:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp
> >> > May HE continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor
> >> > Werner whom I love unconditionally.
> >>
> >> "Your hopes and wishes for me are all meaningless" <-
> >> paraphrased reading of "Andrew's" quote based on
> >> "Ecclesiastes" :-)
> >
> > Prayer is never meaningless.
>
> So then why isn't Terry Shiavo no longer among us here on earth?
> You know I met quite a few people who prayed for her, maybe you
> did so too?
GOD's will be done and not our will.
> >> >
> >> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> >>
> >> Who simply was doing the will of the one God who is greater
> >> then Jesus the man of Nazareth...
> >
> > Who is LORD and GOD.
>
> Matter of opinion... :-)
The truth.
> > "KING of kings and LORD of lords." (Revelation 19:16)
>
> Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave
> unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly
> come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his
> servant John:
>
> :-)
>
> You notice the chain, "Dr Hilarious"?
Yet again, name-calling simply demonstrates that your remain lost.
> First step:
> God gave the revelation to Jesus;
Yes, the Father gave the revelation to HIS Son.
> Second step: Jesus passes it on to an Angel;
Yes, LORD Jesus Christ sent the revelation to Apostle John by way of
HIS Angel.
> Third step: the Angel appears to John, telling him the words of
> Jesus and God.
Actually, GOD's Angel delivered the revelation as an experience for
John rather than mere words.
> >
> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating so that you will
> > have time to find the way, dear neighbor Werner whom I love
> > unconditionally.
>
> Ah "Dr Hilarious" don't need to worry that I might miss the way.....
Yet again a 4th time in this post, name-calling simply confirms that
you remain lost without the way.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
> >
> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Who was giving all praise to God HIS FATHER *FIRST*
Christ Jesus is risen with all the authority of heaven and earth in HIS
full possession.
Indeed, HE also has the keys to death and hell.
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Werner whom
I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
James R wrote:
Who told you that?
Another blinkered human?
One thing is for sure, no god told you
Hershel Roberson wrote:
Two peas in a pod. Falwell and any muslim fanatic
>
>
> Hershel
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
> Hershel Roberson wrote:
> > Andrew wrote:
> >
> > > O'Donnell was saying there is no difference between the radical
> > > Muslims who kill in the name of Allah and Bible-believing Christians
> > > who follow the teachings of Jesus.
> >
> > I bet ole Jerry is wondering why she would say something like that.
> >
> > "This 'turn the other cheek' business is all well and good but it's not what
> >
> > Jesus fought and died for. What we need to do is take the battle to the
> > Muslim heathens and do unto them before they do unto us." I" - Jerry Falwell
>
> Reminds me of Simon Peter choosing to go from being swordbearer to
> swordsman in the garden of Gethsemane.
>
> "Those who live by the sword will die by the sword." -- LORD Jesus
> Chris
Oh he is a Lord now is He,
I thought that was a title reserved for rulers in primitive times
Here in the United States, people have landlords and joblords (bosses).
HE is most assuredly without a doubt my LORD.
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Bob whom
> Werner -the Christian Agnostic- Kurator wrote:
>> Andrew wrote:
>>
>> <cut>
>> >> >> Well if one takes into consideration that some "Christians"
>> >> >> await the following:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Revelation 9 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were
>> >> >> prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for
>> >> >> to slay the third part of men.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Because the Bible *says so*!
>> >> >
>> >> > GOD's will be done and not our will.
>> >>
>> >> Strange, have I said something about our will?
>> >
>> > We are discussing acts arising from free will.
>>
>> When and where?
>
> See the OP.
Well I wasn't it, was I?
>
>> When all I did was post a Bible-passage which
>> had nothing to do with free will!
>
> Without free will, you would not be able to post anything.
Did this reveal the "Holy Spirit" to you?
>
>> Revelation 9
>> 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared
>> for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay
>> the third part of men.
>
> GOD's will be done and not our will.
Depending on the Faith, one holds...
>
>> >> And yes if you want to *talk* about my will, I wouldn't want
>> >> to kill people simply because they don't know, love or
>> >> believe me, like a lot of people don't KNOW, believe in and
>> >> LOVE God.
>> >
>> > Thinking about killing someone is the same as doing it because
>> > GOD knows what is in your heart.
>>
>> You are not God, "Dr Hilarious"!
>
> Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost.
So now you give words their own *definition* too?
You are *HILARIOUS* Andrew, just too bad you don't realize it,
must be a veil pulled in front of your eyes....
>
>> So yet when God foretells us via the book of revelation that
>> humans have it coming, then he should be praised? You sure
>> measure with two sticks.
>
> It remains my choice to refrain from judging others per the
> kind and helpful suggestion of LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
> 7:1-2)
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp
Got something to say, say it here, IIRC I told you so before
too.
>
>> >> If I would go and kill a certain cardiologist from
>> >> Atlanta, our criminal justice system would put me into
>> >> jail for some time, yet god should be *praised* for doing
>> >> the same?
>> >
>> > Your thought about killing me is forgiven as far as I am
>> > concerned.
>>
>> Don't need your forgiveness.
>
> It remains my choice made through the free will that GOD has
> generously given me.
Irrelevant what you in your delusion might think I need from
you.
>
>> > Many thanks and much praise and all the glory to GOD for
>> > keeping you from acting on your homicidal ideation.
>>
>> Yet you praise God for *killing* humans, and claim it's the
>> "will of God", "Dr Hilarious"
>
> Again, name-calling simply serves to show that you remain
> lost.
See above...
>
>> >
>> > Most assuredly, without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just,
>> > and right.
>>
>> So then how can he go about killing people, simply because
>> they don't know, believe in his existence or *LOVE* HIM? Yet
>> me a sinner, who isn't this God is frowned upon?
>
> The wages of sin is death. These a just wages:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp
Again if you got something to say, post it here.
>
>> >> > May HE continue to keep your heart beating, dear
>> >> > neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally.
>> >>
>> >> "Your hopes and wishes for me are all meaningless" <-
>> >> paraphrased reading of "Andrew's" quote based on
>> >> "Ecclesiastes" :-)
>> >
>> > Prayer is never meaningless.
>>
>> So then why isn't Terry Shiavo no longer among us here on
>> earth? You know I met quite a few people who prayed for her,
>> maybe you did so too?
>
> GOD's will be done and not our will.
Oh what happened to God changing his mind?
>
>> >> >
>> >> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>> >>
>> >> Who simply was doing the will of the one God who is
>> >> greater then Jesus the man of Nazareth...
>> >
>> > Who is LORD and GOD.
>>
>> Matter of opinion... :-)
>
> The truth.
In truth, Jesus was a *finite* manifestation of the *INFINITE*
God. The *first* of many.... :-)
>
>> > "KING of kings and LORD of lords." (Revelation 19:16)
>>
>> Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave
>> unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly
>> come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto
>> his servant John:
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> You notice the chain, "Dr Hilarious"?
>
> Yet again, name-calling simply demonstrates that your remain
> lost.
"Delusion" could be your *middle* name "Dr Hilarious"....
>
>> First step: God gave the revelation to Jesus;
>
> Yes, the Father gave the revelation to HIS Son.
>
>> Second step: Jesus passes it on to an Angel;
>
> Yes, LORD Jesus Christ sent the revelation to Apostle John by
> way of HIS Angel.
>
>> Third step: the Angel appears to John, telling him the words
>> of Jesus and God.
>
> Actually, GOD's Angel delivered the revelation as an
> experience for John rather than mere words.
Irrelevant, the *chain* is important...
>
>> >
>> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating so that you
>> > will have time to find the way, dear neighbor Werner whom I
>> > love unconditionally.
>>
>> Ah "Dr Hilarious" don't need to worry that I might miss the
>> way.....
>
> Yet again a 4th time in this post, name-calling simply
> confirms that you remain lost without the way.
Strange, "Dr Hilarious" yet you didn't offer me your *fake*
forgiveness for this alleged hurt....
>
> "I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus
> Christ
Yeah watch out that you don't loos sight of this simple
truth, and leave the path that leads to life....
>
>> >
>> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>>
>> Who was giving all praise to God HIS FATHER *FIRST*
>
> Christ Jesus is risen with all the authority of heaven and
> earth in HIS full possession.
*given* to him, as he said so.
>
> Indeed, HE also has the keys to death and hell.
So Jesus works as a *prison-ward* too?
But I sure like to see the Bible passage that says that Jesus
has the keys to death and hell, "Dr Hilarious"....
>
> May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor
> Werner whom I love unconditionally.
Ah, if I die tomorrow then your *wish* for me would be in
vain...
<cut>
June 1978
"I would like to shake the hand of the man who first decided that e-mail
clients should slice, dice and run arbitrary programs. Then I'd like to stir,
blend and puree his hand." -- J. D. Baldwin in the Monastery
Ros
You chose to join this thread and not the other way around.
Yet another act arising from the free will that GOD has generously
given you.
> >> When all I did was post a Bible-passage which
> >> had nothing to do with free will!
> >
> > Without free will, you would not be able to post anything.
>
> Did this reveal the "Holy Spirit" to you?
There is nothing revealing about you.
> >> Revelation 9
> >> 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared
> >> for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay
> >> the third part of men.
> >
> > GOD's will be done and not our will.
>
> Depending on the Faith, one holds...
Actually it depends on GOD.
> >> >> And yes if you want to *talk* about my will, I wouldn't want
> >> >> to kill people simply because they don't know, love or
> >> >> believe me, like a lot of people don't KNOW, believe in and
> >> >> LOVE God.
> >> >
> >> > Thinking about killing someone is the same as doing it because
> >> > GOD knows what is in your heart.
> >>
> >> You are not God, "Dr Hilarious"!
> >
> > Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost.
>
> So now you give words their own *definition* too?
No.
> You are *HILARIOUS* Andrew, just too bad you don't realize it,
> must be a veil pulled in front of your eyes....
You remind me of the blind man who would feign vision by pretending to
assess the vision of the seeing.
> >> So yet when God foretells us via the book of revelation that
> >> humans have it coming, then he should be praised? You sure
> >> measure with two sticks.
> >
> > It remains my choice to refrain from judging others per the
> > kind and helpful suggestion of LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
> > 7:1-2)
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp
>
> Got something to say, say it here, IIRC I told you so before
> too.
I have written plainly.
> >> >> If I would go and kill a certain cardiologist from
> >> >> Atlanta, our criminal justice system would put me into
> >> >> jail for some time, yet god should be *praised* for doing
> >> >> the same?
> >> >
> >> > Your thought about killing me is forgiven as far as I am
> >> > concerned.
> >>
> >> Don't need your forgiveness.
> >
> > It remains my choice made through the free will that GOD has
> > generously given me.
>
> Irrelevant what you in your delusion might think I need from
> you.
My choice is in keeping with guidance from the Holy Spirit and not your
needs.
HE convicts you.
> >> > Many thanks and much praise and all the glory to GOD for
> >> > keeping you from acting on your homicidal ideation.
> >>
> >> Yet you praise God for *killing* humans, and claim it's the
> >> "will of God", "Dr Hilarious"
> >
> > Again, name-calling simply serves to show that you remain
> > lost.
>
> See above...
Please do.
> >> > Most assuredly, without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just,
> >> > and right.
> >>
> >> So then how can he go about killing people, simply because
> >> they don't know, believe in his existence or *LOVE* HIM? Yet
> >> me a sinner, who isn't this God is frowned upon?
> >
> > The wages of sin is death. These a just wages:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp
>
> Again if you got something to say, post it here.
Again, I have written plainly.
> >> >> > May HE continue to keep your heart beating, dear
> >> >> > neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Your hopes and wishes for me are all meaningless" <-
> >> >> paraphrased reading of "Andrew's" quote based on
> >> >> "Ecclesiastes" :-)
> >> >
> >> > Prayer is never meaningless.
> >>
> >> So then why isn't Terry Shiavo no longer among us here on
> >> earth? You know I met quite a few people who prayed for her,
> >> maybe you did so too?
> >
> > GOD's will be done and not our will.
>
> Oh what happened to God changing his mind?
Again, GOD's will be done and not our will:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/dad0ac3a8863795b?
> >> >> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> >> >>
> >> >> Who simply was doing the will of the one God who is
> >> >> greater then Jesus the man of Nazareth...
> >> >
> >> > Who is LORD and GOD.
> >>
> >> Matter of opinion... :-)
> >
> > The truth.
>
> In truth, Jesus was a *finite* manifestation of the *INFINITE*
> God. The *first* of many.... :-)
In truth, the description of the infinite Jesus is necessarily finite
within the ink on the pages of the Bible. Those with hearts made
discerning by the Holy Spirit know this.
> >> > "KING of kings and LORD of lords." (Revelation 19:16)
> >>
> >> Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave
> >> unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly
> >> come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto
> >> his servant John:
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> You notice the chain, "Dr Hilarious"?
> >
> > Yet again, name-calling simply demonstrates that your remain
> > lost.
>
> "Delusion" could be your *middle* name "Dr Hilarious"....
It seem you would fit right in amongst the denizens of AUK.
> >> First step: God gave the revelation to Jesus;
> >
> > Yes, the Father gave the revelation to HIS Son.
> >
> >> Second step: Jesus passes it on to an Angel;
> >
> > Yes, LORD Jesus Christ sent the revelation to Apostle John by
> > way of HIS Angel.
> >
> >> Third step: the Angel appears to John, telling him the words
> >> of Jesus and God.
> >
> > Actually, GOD's Angel delivered the revelation as an
> > experience for John rather than mere words.
>
> Irrelevant, the *chain* is important...
The truth is relevant.
> >> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating so that you
> >> > will have time to find the way, dear neighbor Werner whom I
> >> > love unconditionally.
> >>
> >> Ah "Dr Hilarious" don't need to worry that I might miss the
> >> way.....
> >
> > Yet again a 4th time in this post, name-calling simply
> > confirms that you remain lost without the way.
>
> Strange, "Dr Hilarious" yet you didn't offer me your *fake*
> forgiveness for this alleged hurt....
Without the LORD, your opinions will always be meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).
> > "I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus
> > Christ
>
> Yeah watch out that you don't loos sight of this simple
> truth, and leave the path that leads to life....
Again, you remind me of the blind man who would feign vision by
pretending to assess the vision of the seeing.
> >> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> >>
> >> Who was giving all praise to God HIS FATHER *FIRST*
> >
> > Christ Jesus is risen with all the authority of heaven and
> > earth in HIS full possession.
>
> *given* to him, as he said so.
Yes, by GOD the Father.
> > Indeed, HE also has the keys to death and hell.
>
> So Jesus works as a *prison-ward* too?
HE is LORD of all.
> But I sure like to see the Bible passage that says that Jesus
> has the keys to death and hell
Simply open your eyes.
> , "Dr Hilarious"....
Again, name-calling simply shows that you are still lost.
> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor
> > Werner whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Ah, if I die tomorrow then your *wish* for me would be in
> vain...
GOD's will be done and not my will:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a594498b8fefec9b?
May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor Werner whom I love
unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
> Despairing Werner wrote:
Yep *people* like you are the cause of *despair*, as no matter
what, you don't get the points made, and this inspite the fact
that you are *studied* person....
>> Andrew wrote:
>> > Werner -the Despairing Agnostic- Kurator wrote:
>> >> Andrew wrote:
>> >>
>> >> <cut>
>> >> >> >> Well if one takes into consideration that some
>> >> >> >> "Christians" await the following:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Revelation 9 15 And the four angels were loosed,
>> >> >> >> which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a
>> >> >> >> month, and a year, for to slay the third part of
>> >> >> >> men.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Because the Bible *says so*!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > GOD's will be done and not our will.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Strange, have I said something about our will?
>> >> >
>> >> > We are discussing acts arising from free will.
>> >>
>> >> When and where?
>> >
>> > See the OP.
>>
>> Well I wasn't it, was I?
>
> You chose to join this thread and not the other way around.
>
> Yet another act arising from the free will that GOD has
> generously given you.
Where is God generosity when people turn their back on him?
>
>> >> When all I did was post a Bible-passage which had nothing
>> >> to do with free will!
>> >
>> > Without free will, you would not be able to post anything.
>>
>> Did this reveal the "Holy Spirit" to you?
>
> There is nothing revealing about you.
So now you contradict your self when you say in another post
that the Holy Spirit revealed to you that I suffer from
delusion?
>
>> >> Revelation 9 15 And the four angels were loosed, which
>> >> were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a
>> >> year, for to slay the third part of men.
>> >
>> > GOD's will be done and not our will.
>>
>> Depending on the Faith, one holds...
>
> Actually it depends on GOD.
So the god named "Allah" is the same God you as a Christian
worship? If this is the case why do they have then a *different*
Scripture?
>
>> >> >> And yes if you want to *talk* about my will, I wouldn't
>> >> >> want to kill people simply because they don't know,
>> >> >> love or believe me, like a lot of people don't KNOW,
>> >> >> believe in and LOVE God.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thinking about killing someone is the same as doing it
>> >> > because GOD knows what is in your heart.
>> >>
>> >> You are not God, "Dr Hilarious"!
>> >
>> > Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost.
>>
>> So now you give words their own *definition* too?
>
> No.
Yes you do, as "Dr Hilarious" isn't *name-calling* but naming
the child by it's proper name.
>
>> You are *HILARIOUS* Andrew, just too bad you don't realize
>> it, must be a veil pulled in front of your eyes....
>
> You remind me of the blind man who would feign vision by
> pretending to assess the vision of the seeing.
This is the the crap you spout when you can't win arguments, or
convince the other person that your view is correct.
>
>> >> So yet when God foretells us via the book of revelation
>> >> that humans have it coming, then he should be praised? You
>> >> sure measure with two sticks.
>> >
>> > It remains my choice to refrain from judging others per the
>> > kind and helpful suggestion of LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
>> > 7:1-2)
>> >
>> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp
>>
>> Got something to say, say it here, IIRC I told you so before
>> too.
>
> I have written plainly.
BTW is the *picture* on your web-site recent? really you? and
not some poor guy's image you abuse?
>
>> >> >> If I would go and kill a certain cardiologist from
>> >> >> Atlanta, our criminal justice system would put me into
>> >> >> jail for some time, yet god should be *praised* for
>> >> >> doing the same?
>> >> >
>> >> > Your thought about killing me is forgiven as far as I am
>> >> > concerned.
>> >>
>> >> Don't need your forgiveness.
>> >
>> > It remains my choice made through the free will that GOD
>> > has generously given me.
>>
>> Irrelevant what you in your delusion might think I need from
>> you.
>
> My choice is in keeping with guidance from the Holy Spirit and
> not your needs.
>
> HE convicts you.
Just like John/t/Baptist *WAS NOT* the Holy Spirit, likewise
*you* "Dr Hilarious" aren't the Holy Spirit neither.
>
>> >> > Many thanks and much praise and all the glory to GOD for
>> >> > keeping you from acting on your homicidal ideation.
>> >>
>> >> Yet you praise God for *killing* humans, and claim it's
>> >> the "will of God", "Dr Hilarious"
>> >
>> > Again, name-calling simply serves to show that you remain
>> > lost.
>>
>> See above...
>
> Please do.
>
>> >> > Most assuredly, without doubt, I know GOD to be kind,
>> >> > just, and right.
>> >>
>> >> So then how can he go about killing people, simply because
>> >> they don't know, believe in his existence or *LOVE* HIM?
>> >> Yet me a sinner, who isn't this God is frowned upon?
>> >
>> > The wages of sin is death. These a just wages:
>> >
>> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp
>>
>> Again if you got something to say, post it here.
>
> Again, I have written plainly.
A link to your website! Duh!
>
>> >> >> > May HE continue to keep your heart beating, dear
>> >> >> > neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Your hopes and wishes for me are all meaningless" <-
>> >> >> paraphrased reading of "Andrew's" quote based on
>> >> >> "Ecclesiastes" :-)
>> >> >
>> >> > Prayer is never meaningless.
>> >>
>> >> So then why isn't Terry Shiavo no longer among us here on
>> >> earth? You know I met quite a few people who prayed for
>> >> her, maybe you did so too?
>> >
>> > GOD's will be done and not our will.
>>
>> Oh what happened to God changing his mind?
>
> Again, GOD's will be done and not our will:
A God who kills people isn't benevolent, does this not get into
your brain, "Dr Hilarious"?
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/dad0ac3a8863795b?
>
>> >> >> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Who simply was doing the will of the one God who is
>> >> >> greater then Jesus the man of Nazareth...
>> >> >
>> >> > Who is LORD and GOD.
>> >>
>> >> Matter of opinion... :-)
>> >
>> > The truth.
>>
>> In truth, Jesus was a *finite* manifestation of the
>> *INFINITE* God. The *first* of many.... :-)
>
> In truth, the description of the infinite Jesus is necessarily
> finite within the ink on the pages of the Bible. Those with
> hearts made discerning by the Holy Spirit know this.
I get the strong suspicion God sends strong delusions to you.
Jesus was *finite* when he walked on earth, he was found even to
*misquote* the OT.
>
>> >> > "KING of kings and LORD of lords." (Revelation 19:16)
>> >>
>> >> Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God
>> >> gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must
>> >> shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his
>> >> angel unto his servant John:
>> >>
>> >> :-)
>> >>
>> >> You notice the chain, "Dr Hilarious"?
>> >
>> > Yet again, name-calling simply demonstrates that your
>> > remain lost.
>>
>> "Delusion" could be your *middle* name "Dr Hilarious"....
>
> It seem you would fit right in amongst the denizens of AUK.
For speaking my mind, don't you know that this is a sign of the
free will God so generously gave to me....
>
>> >> First step: God gave the revelation to Jesus;
>> >
>> > Yes, the Father gave the revelation to HIS Son.
>> >
>> >> Second step: Jesus passes it on to an Angel;
>> >
>> > Yes, LORD Jesus Christ sent the revelation to Apostle John
>> > by way of HIS Angel.
>> >
>> >> Third step: the Angel appears to John, telling him the
>> >> words of Jesus and God.
>> >
>> > Actually, GOD's Angel delivered the revelation as an
>> > experience for John rather than mere words.
>>
>> Irrelevant, the *chain* is important...
>
> The truth is relevant.
Again, how John got it doesn't mean squat to me. As I don't
share his *experience*. (not that I wouldn't want to)
BTW the Holy Spirit just told me that you should look up
Rev.10:4, it is a message he wanted to give you for a long time,
but somehow he can't get through to you... ah yeah some
concepts you have get in the way.....
>
>> >> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating so that you
>> >> > will have time to find the way, dear neighbor Werner
>> >> > whom I love unconditionally.
>> >>
>> >> Ah "Dr Hilarious" don't need to worry that I might miss
>> >> the way.....
>> >
>> > Yet again a 4th time in this post, name-calling simply
>> > confirms that you remain lost without the way.
>>
>> Strange, "Dr Hilarious" yet you didn't offer me your *fake*
>> forgiveness for this alleged hurt....
>
> Without the LORD, your opinions will always be meaningless
> (Ecclesiastes).
Doesn't matter, I' still share the opinion with you... just for
the laugh of it....
>
>> > "I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus
>> > Christ
>>
>> Yeah watch out that you don't loos sight of this simple
>> truth, and leave the path that leads to life....
>
> Again, you remind me of the blind man who would feign vision
> by pretending to assess the vision of the seeing.
You know this person so well, could it be that you talk about
yourself here?
>
>> >> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>> >>
>> >> Who was giving all praise to God HIS FATHER *FIRST*
>> >
>> > Christ Jesus is risen with all the authority of heaven and
>> > earth in HIS full possession.
>>
>> *given* to him, as he said so.
>
> Yes, by GOD the Father.
Who is the greater *authority*...
>
>> > Indeed, HE also has the keys to death and hell.
>>
>> So Jesus works as a *prison-ward* too?
>
> HE is LORD of all.
Yet he passes it on...
>
>> But I sure like to see the Bible passage that says that Jesus
>> has the keys to death and hell
>
> Simply open your eyes.
I'd like to *see* it here in your reply, so that I know you know
what your talking about.
>
>> , "Dr Hilarious"....
>
> Again, name-calling simply shows that you are still lost.
And your reply reveals that one hit a *soft-spot*....
>
>> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor
>> > Werner whom I love unconditionally.
>>
>> Ah, if I die tomorrow then your *wish* for me would be in
>> vain...
>
> GOD's will be done and not my will:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a594498b8fefec9b?
Post the message here
>
> May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor Werner whom
> I love unconditionally.
*Your* feigned *well-wishing* antics don't mean a thing to me,
"Dr Hilarious" whose heart needs healing just as well as mine,
after all you are a *sinner*.
>
>
>
June 1978
Giving up on assembly language was the apple in our Garden of Eden: Languages
whose use squanders machine cycles are sinful. The LISP machine now permits
LISP programmers to abandon bra and fig-leaf.
-- Epigrams in Programming, ACM SIGPLAN Sept. 1982
The big 'E' is a prisoner of semantics. This is because he can make no
sense of the human condition due to his personality disorder. A sort of
'Mr Ripley finds religion'.
She's right. Radical Christians include amongst their ranks the KKK,
Aryan Nation etc. Fortunately, they do not include the Branch Davidians
or the Jones Cult any more.
Sad to hear that. I hope the poor gerbil didn't suffer.
Saints Fluffy and Uranus, of the Duckman Detective Agency,
shortly before being shoved into a gasoline-filled jug, lit, and
tossed out the window.
> who decides what is -factual-?
>
Nobody.
Don't forget nutlords.
Sorry to cause you to despair. Please forgive all my iniquities.
<snip>
> > You chose to join this thread and not the other way around.
> >
> > Yet another act arising from the free will that GOD has
> > generously given you.
>
> Where is God generosity when people turn their back on him?
John 3:16
<snip>
> So now you contradict your self when you say in another post
> that the Holy Spirit revealed to you that I suffer from
> delusion?
No.
The credit still belongs to the Holy Spirit and not to you.
<snip>
> So the god named "Allah" is the same God you as a Christian worship?
Yes.
> If this is the case why do they have then a *different*
> Scripture?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6b4237a09bc29bbe?
There is a different covenant with a different inheritance.
<snip>
> >> >> > Thinking about killing someone is the same as doing it
> >> >> > because GOD knows what is in your heart.
> >> >>
> >> >> You are not God, "Dr Hilarious"!
> >> >
> >> > Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost.
> >>
> >> So now you give words their own *definition* too?
> >
> > No.
>
> Yes you do, as "Dr Hilarious" isn't *name-calling* but naming
> the child by it's proper name.
Again, name-calling continues to show that you remain lost.
Intolerance of correction is an anticipated characteristic of the lost.
> >> You are *HILARIOUS* Andrew, just too bad you don't realize
> >> it, must be a veil pulled in front of your eyes....
> >
> > You remind me of the blind man who would feign vision by
> > pretending to assess the vision of the seeing.
>
> This is the the crap you spout when you can't win arguments, or
> convince the other person that your view is correct.
The use of profanities further confirms that you are floundering.
> >> >> So yet when God foretells us via the book of revelation
> >> >> that humans have it coming, then he should be praised? You
> >> >> sure measure with two sticks.
> >> >
> >> > It remains my choice to refrain from judging others per the
> >> > kind and helpful suggestion of LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
> >> > 7:1-2)
> >> >
> >> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp
> >>
> >> Got something to say, say it here, IIRC I told you so before
> >> too.
> >
> > I have written plainly.
>
> BTW is the *picture* on your web-site recent?
No.
> really you?
Yes.
> and
> not some poor guy's image you abuse?
No.
> >> >> >> If I would go and kill a certain cardiologist from
> >> >> >> Atlanta, our criminal justice system would put me into
> >> >> >> jail for some time, yet god should be *praised* for
> >> >> >> doing the same?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Your thought about killing me is forgiven as far as I am
> >> >> > concerned.
> >> >>
> >> >> Don't need your forgiveness.
> >> >
> >> > It remains my choice made through the free will that GOD
> >> > has generously given me.
> >>
> >> Irrelevant what you in your delusion might think I need from
> >> you.
> >
> > My choice is in keeping with guidance from the Holy Spirit and
> > not your needs.
> >
> > HE convicts you.
>
> Just like John/t/Baptist *WAS NOT* the Holy Spirit, likewise
> *you* "Dr Hilarious" aren't the Holy Spirit neither.
Being guided by the Holy Spirit is not the same as being the Holy
Spirit.
To understand this, simply surf the links below my sigs.
<snip>
> >> >
> >> > The wages of sin is death. These are just wages:
> >> >
> >> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp
> >>
> >> Again if you got something to say, post it here.
> >
> > Again, I have written plainly.
>
> A link to your website! Duh!
The link is optional.
<snip>
> > In truth, the description of the infinite Jesus is necessarily
> > finite within the ink on the pages of the Bible. Those with
> > hearts made discerning by the Holy Spirit know this.
>
> I get the strong suspicion God sends strong delusions to you.
>
> Jesus was *finite* when he walked on earth, he was found even to
> *misquote* the OT.
This serves to show that GOD remains sovereign over all things.
The written Word of GOD does not place limits on GOD's authority.
<snip>
> A God who kills people isn't benevolent
The Creator has every right to unmake anything HE has made.
Most assuredly without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just, and right.
> , does this not get into
> your brain, "Dr Hilarious
Again, name-calling simply confirms that you still remain lost.
<snip>
> >> "Delusion" could be your *middle* name "Dr Hilarious"....
> >
> > It seem you would fit right in amongst the denizens of AUK.
>
> For speaking my mind, don't you know that this is a sign of the
> free will God so generously gave to me....
Actually your inability to refrain from name-calling indicates that the
evil spirit inside your heart is taking away your free will.
<snip>
> > The truth is relevant.
>
> Again, how John got it doesn't mean squat to me. As I don't
> share his *experience*. (not that I wouldn't want to)
> BTW the Holy Spirit just told me that you should look up
> Rev.10:4, it is a message he wanted to give you for a long time,
> but somehow he can't get through to you... ah yeah some
> concepts you have get in the way.....
"And when the seven thunders spoke, I was about to write; but I heard a
voice from heaven say, "Seal up what the seven thunders have said and
do not write it down." (Revelation 10:4)
It is now clear that an evil spirit guides you and not the Holy Spirit.
Your evil spirit wishes for the Holy Spirit to reveal what is sealed in
order to prevent its prophesied destruction by subverting GOD's master
plan.
<snip>
> > Without the LORD, your opinions will always be meaningless
> > (Ecclesiastes).
>
> Doesn't matter, I' still share the opinion with you... just for
> the laugh of it....
Your choice.
> >> > "I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus
> >> > Christ
> >>
> >> Yeah watch out that you don't loos sight of this simple
> >> truth, and leave the path that leads to life....
> >
> > Again, you remind me of the blind man who would feign vision
> > by pretending to assess the vision of the seeing.
>
> You know this person so well, could it be that you talk about
> yourself here?
No.
> >> >> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> >> >>
> >> >> Who was giving all praise to God HIS FATHER *FIRST*
> >> >
> >> > Christ Jesus is risen with all the authority of heaven and
> >> > earth in HIS full possession.
> >>
> >> *given* to him, as he said so.
> >
> > Yes, by GOD the Father.
>
> Who is the greater *authority*...
Yes.
> >> > Indeed, HE also has the keys to death and hell.
> >>
> >> So Jesus works as a *prison-ward* too?
> >
> > HE is LORD of all.
>
> Yet he passes it on...
HE remains LORD of all.
> >> But I sure like to see the Bible passage that says that Jesus
> >> has the keys to death and hell
> >
> > Simply open your eyes.
>
> I'd like to *see* it here in your reply, so that I know you know
> what your talking about.
Revelation 1:18
> >> , "Dr Hilarious"....
> >
> > Again, name-calling simply shows that you are still lost.
>
> And your reply reveals that one hit a *soft-spot*....
Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor
> >> > Werner whom I love unconditionally.
> >>
> >> Ah, if I die tomorrow then your *wish* for me would be in
> >> vain...
> >
> > GOD's will be done and not my will:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a594498b8fefec9b?
>
> Post the message here
"Those who do not work do not eat." -- Holy Spirit
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Werner whom
I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
Is it your claim that President Bush is a member of either organization
that you name ?
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating dear neighbor whom I love
Why do you ask?
He gives `em a discount at the clinic.
-PF
Take up thy stethescope and walk, according to the late Saint
Sydney Barret.
To allow you to clarify your opinion about Rosie's belief that the
person who led the U.S. to war against terrorism is a "radical
Christian."
Yes, President Bush is unabashedly open about being a born-again
Christian as am I.
May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor whom I love
Yeah, walk, man and don't let the door hit you in the arse.
>
<cut>
>
> Intolerance of correction is an anticipated characteristic of
> the lost.
Ah this is why you refuse to be *corrected* by anybody here on
Usenet..... :-)
<cut>
June 1978
Living on Earth is expensive, but it comes with an anual free trip around
the Sun
Without the LORD, you will continue to be meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Werner whom
I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> Werner wrote:
>> Andrew wrote:
>>
>> <cut>
>>
>> > Intolerance of correction is an anticipated characteristic of
>> > the lost.
>>
>> Ah this is why you refuse to be *corrected* by anybody here on
>> Usenet..... :-)
>
> Without the LORD, you will continue to be meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
Your reply shows how lost you are.... As I haven't seen you
accept "corrections".....
<cut>
--
June 1978
Private entities can't compete with the government
in money-losing propositions. Governments are WAY better at losing money
than any private entity could ever dream of being.
-- Dreamer in RASFW
Correction comes only from the truth.
You are too untruthful to correct anybody:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/065dc258396b69fb?
> Werner "thorn in his own side" Kurator wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is not the *ORIGINAL* statement "Dr Hilarious".
So what it shows yet again is that you change what others have
typed.... and bear false witness.
Well why I'm not surprised....
<cut>
June 1978
Cogito ergo periculosus
[I think, therefore I'm dangerous]
Name-calling simply shows that you continue to stumble along without
direction:
Apparently, no one on Earth is truthful enough to correct the Great Doctor
Andrew B. Chung.
--
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"Etymology:
Argumentum ad Septicus : argument to putrefaction. Derived from Septicum
Argumentum : putrefaction of argument.
"Septic \Sep"tic\, Septical \Sep"tic*al\
a. [L. septicus to make putrid: cf. F. septique.]
Having power to promote putrefaction. Of or relating to or
caused by putrefaction." -- Kadaitcha Man, indirectly to
Donald "Skeptic"/"Septic" Alford, in MID: <a3svh.d...@news.alt.net>
"I never fail to be amazing" -- Looney Maroon for September 2006 nominee
William Barwell's ego knows no bounds. MID:
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Incorrect.
Those in the Holy Spirit are truthful enough to correct others who are
untruthful.
> to correct the Great Doctor
> Andrew B. Chung.
There is only one Great Physician and HIS name is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/healer.asp
> Werner Tihos Kurator wrote:
"Copy cat" can't come up something of his own.... :-)
ROTFL
Actually I read your replies as the first one, they make me laugh
so hard, many thanks Andrew to be my *personal* "Dr Hilarious"....
Better yet I'll start *giving* God all the *glory* for making
you such a funny/hilarious dude.....
>> Andrew wrote:
>> > Werner "thorn in his own side" Kurator wrote:
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> This is not the *ORIGINAL* statement "Dr Hilarious".
>
> Name-calling simply shows that you continue to stumble along without
> direction:
You haven't shown it to be name-calling, But "Dr Funny" might
fit you just as well.
So here live up to your reputation now you can have another
opportunity and say something really funny too:
>
<cut irrelevant stuff>
>
>
June 1978
If Usenet had a coat of arms, the
motto on the banner would be "SO THERE".
-- Patrick Nielsen Hayden
"Written laughter is silent despair" -- Holy Spirit.
Without faith in LORD Jesus Christ, you will always despair.
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Werner whom
I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a77da2d26da0ab97?
For which you haven't provided any evidence that he/she/it is
the source. You claiming it doesn't make it so.
Secondly you still haven't refuted the opening statement....
>
> Without faith in LORD Jesus Christ, you will always despair.
See this is why you are mistaken yet again.
But I see some of the *results* of *YOUR* faith, and in fact
you aren't so different from those who don't have faith.
Besides as I told you, I have faith that God *IS*, he is the
ground of our *being*, in him we live, Jesus was another
expression (limited/finite manifestation) of the unlimited
infinite God.
>
> May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor
> Werner whom I love unconditionally.
Your *pious* wishes are as *useful* as the "advisory" you gave
about the coming destruction of the earth a few months ago.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
June 1978
I might be crazier than you think
It remains a goad for you. The last time you kicked it, your bearing
false witness was laid bare for all to see firsthand.
> Secondly you still haven't refuted the opening statement....
It remains my choice to reflect your own thorn back to you.
The mirror has a powerful effect on those who are deluded.
> > Without faith in LORD Jesus Christ, you will always despair.
>
> See this is why you are mistaken yet again.
> But I see some of the *results* of *YOUR* faith, and in fact
> you aren't so different from those who don't have faith.
>
> Besides as I told you, I have faith that God *IS*, he is the
> ground of our *being*, in him we live, Jesus was another
> expression (limited/finite manifestation) of the unlimited
> infinite God.
Without the LORD, your beliefs will remain forever meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).
> >
> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor
> > Werner whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Your *pious* wishes are as *useful* as the "advisory" you gave
> about the coming destruction of the earth a few months ago.
The advisory still stands and has not been rescinded. The destruction
of the world as we know it remains a very real possibility.
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Werner whom
I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><