Being lovingly kind (WDJW) and praying for Mike McClean's perishing brain ...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Jesus, the Son of God, is the Father's connection to us.
>
> Jesus is our connection to the Father.
>
> How you treat Jesus is how you treat the Father.
Those who remain of this world continue to crucify Jesus as they
crucify His disciples (either Jew or gentile).
> Jesus is your opportunity to show God why He should bother with you.
Without being born again (John 3:3 anf 3:5 referring to Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26), those who remain of this world, do not trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:
Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/13bd7f30793258d2?
May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
Fred Thomas
> Mike McClean wrote:
>> Jesus, the Son of God, is the Father's connection to us.
>>
>> Jesus is our connection to the Father.
>>
>> How you treat Jesus is how you treat the Father.
>
> Those who remain of this world continue to crucify Jesus as they
> crucify His disciples (either Jew or gentile).
>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Mike McClean wrote:
> >
> >> Jesus, the Son of God, is the Father's connection to us.
> >>
> >> Jesus is our connection to the Father.
> >>
> >> How you treat Jesus is how you treat the Father.
> >
> > Those who remain of this world continue to crucify Jesus as they
> > crucify His disciples (either Jew or gentile).
> >
> Kinda hard to crucify some one who is supposedly already dead.
For just three days ...
So that the good news is that Christ Jesus has since risen from the
dead.
Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e035b670b4ed0bc7?
In the interim, may GOD give you, Fred, a new heart and a new spirit
(Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water
and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
ThomM
wrote:
> Mike McClean wrote:
>
> > Jesus, the Son of God, is the Father's connection to us.
So - there are lots of others who are sons of gods - Hercules comes
to mingdimmediately - BUT there are hundreds more
>
> > Jesus is our connection to the Father.
What father?
THere are hundreds of father gods also so named as well
>
> > How you treat Jesus is how you treat the Father.
They are ALL nothing more than MYTH - so they are all treated equally
>
> Those who remain of this world continue to crucify Jesus as they
> crucify His disciples (either Jew or gentile).
Sorry - that is a story - not reality that you have proven
>
> > Jesus is your opportunity to show God why He should bother with you.
No - no god is proven to exist that YOU can establish
EVEN though there are millions of them named - none of which you can
establish to be real.
ThomM
wrote:
> For just three days ...
So - you cannot count either
From Friday NIGHT to Sunday Morning is NOT three days
Another error by the chung man!
>
> So that the good news is that Christ Jesus has since risen from the
> dead.
>
He wasn't the first god to be so
Horace , Isis, Attis, Mithra, Kryshna, and Dionysus all did it before
him
And some of those stories are carved in stone!
Fred Thomas
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:2955bb7e-8fce-4460...@o13g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Mike McClean wrote:
>> >
>> >> Jesus, the Son of God, is the Father's connection to us.
>> >>
>> >> Jesus is our connection to the Father.
>> >>
>> >> How you treat Jesus is how you treat the Father.
>> >
>> > Those who remain of this world continue to crucify Jesus as they
>> > crucify His disciples (either Jew or gentile).
>> >
>> Kinda hard to crucify some one who is supposedly already dead.
>
> For just three days ...
>
> So that the good news is that Christ Jesus has since risen from the
> dead.
Nope, just a story silly.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Fred Thomas wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > Mike McClean wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Jesus, the Son of God, is the Father's connection to us.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jesus is our connection to the Father.
> >> >>
> >> >> How you treat Jesus is how you treat the Father.
> >> >
> >> > Those who remain of this world continue to crucify Jesus as they
> >> > crucify His disciples (either Jew or gentile).
> >>
> >> Kinda hard to crucify some one who is supposedly already dead.
> >
> > For just three days ...
> >
> > So that the good news is that Christ Jesus has since risen from the
> > dead.
>
> Nope, just a story silly.
You are waxing incoherent.
Fred Thomas
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Fred Thomas wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> > Mike McClean wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Jesus, the Son of God, is the Father's connection to us.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jesus is our connection to the Father.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> How you treat Jesus is how you treat the Father.
>> >> >
>> >> > Those who remain of this world continue to crucify Jesus as they
>> >> > crucify His disciples (either Jew or gentile).
>> >>
>> >> Kinda hard to crucify some one who is supposedly already dead.
>> >
>> > For just three days ...
>> >
>> > So that the good news is that Christ Jesus has since risen from the
>> > dead.
>>
>> Nope, just a story silly.
>
> You are waxing incoherent.
>
little story.
Michael Christ
Jesus is our connection to the Father.
How you treat Jesus is how you treat the Father.
Jesus (and His sons) is your opportunity to show God why He should bother
with you.
Show us something Andrew!
Michael Christ
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f1ee77f09dcc5e15?
May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.
Amen.
Michael Christ
It is all about defending a perfection that you do not have, Andrew.
Michael Christ
daedsidog
You see? It's statements like yours that seal your identity as an idiot.
Andrew Chung:
Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (#
being a number)
Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days
Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals
Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website
Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)
Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.
Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto
food.
Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe
Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.
Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.
Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.
Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".
Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.
Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.
Roger Pearse
> On Aug 6, 6:24 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
> wrote:
>
> > For just three days ...
>
> So - you cannot count either
>
> From Friday NIGHT to Sunday Morning is NOT three days
>
> Another error by the chung man!
>
>
>
> > So that the good news is that Christ Jesus has since risen from the
> > dead.
>
> He wasn't the first god to be so
>
> him
>
> And some of those stories are carved in stone!
I see dirty Tommy is still peddling his falsehoods. None of these
statements are true. And... <snigger> just who is this 'god' Horace,
Tommy?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
is writing because this has all been coming from his deceitful heart
in accord with what is written in Your Word at Jeremiah 17:9. Please
drive out the deceit in Mike's heart as only You can.
Amen
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/13bd7f30793258d2?
Now, do you, Mike, want to become a disciple of LORD Jesus Christ so
that you too would be able to physically recognize the Messiah even in
the dark of night?
Love in the truth,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
A gentile disciple of Jesus Christ
able to recognize the Messiah
even in the dark of night.
Jimmy Alpha
> Dear Heavenly Father, please forgive Mike because he knows not what he
> is writing because this has all been coming from his deceitful heart
> in accord with what is written in Your Word at Jeremiah 17:9. Please
> drive out the deceit in Mike's heart as only You can.
How does God hear this?
> Amen
Is this how a petition is presented to God?
Jimmy Alpha
Michael Christ
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote in message
news:ur9o751nka6084us8...@4ax.com...
> Dear Heavenly Father, please forgive Mike because he knows not what he
> is writing because this has all been coming from his deceitful heart
> in accord with what is written in Your Word at Jeremiah 17:9. Please
> drive out the deceit in Mike's heart as only You can.
>
> Amen
News:
Repetitious marketplace prayer is hypocrisy, Andrew.
It is deceit.
All along you have been using Him in your life, Andrew.
Michael Christ
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Spirit (referring to Matthew 22:14)
Amen.
Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f1ee77f09dcc5e15?
May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Thommadura
To quote YOU
It isn't true just because you say it -Michael
Either YOU can prove it - or it is just dismissed as nonsense
ThomM
Gee - still no proof of your statements - Ickles Roger?
YOU have failed to provide any PROOF that my father's statements are
NOT true
SO you claim is dismissed as unsupported - as are your gods and beliefs
Roger Pearse
Here we see dirty little Tommy do his trick: he starts with an
assertion, and, when contradicted, demands "prove me wrong" or worse
still, "you have no proof." The idea of finding out the facts, or of
defending his statements rationally never enters his mind.
Whether we can respect atheists, when atheists behave like this, I
wouldn't like to say.
I note that he didn't feel like explaining who his god "Horace" is.
<snicker>
All the best,
Roger Pearse
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
using your mouth?
ThomM
Still not an atheist - too bad YOU cannot read
And you still have yet to present proof that a god exists - much less
yours.
Of course - the idea that accepting one god out of the 28 million so
far named would require PROOF - is a concept that ROGER could never
understand - since theists beleive ANYTHING they are told - without
proof - and can be led by the nose ANYWHERE!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
Amen.
A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?
Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?
Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic at any time:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?
What we are teaching to prepare folks in our local communities for the
probable eventuality of a deadlier Pan-Flu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU
How to not be fearful:
Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
Hunger is wonderful ! ! !
It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks
the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke
24:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?
Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?
Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus
when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
Jesus is LORD, forever !!!
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
Thommadura
> On Aug 8, 12:53 pm, ThomM <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Aug 7, 9:07 am,Roger Pearse<roger.pea...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 7, 12:21 am, ThomM <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>> On Aug 6, 6:24 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> For just three days ...
>>>> So - you cannot count either
>>>> From Friday NIGHT to Sunday Morning is NOT three days
>>>> Another error by the chung man!
>>>>> So that the good news is that Christ Jesus has since risen from the
>>>>> dead.
>>>> He wasn't the first god to be so
>>>> Horace , Isis,Attis, Mithra, Kryshna, and Dionysus all did it before
>>>> him
>>>> And some of those stories are carved in stone!
>>> I see dirty Tommy is still peddling his falsehoods. None of these
>>> statements are true. And... <snigger> just who is this 'god' Horace,
>>> Tommy?
>> Gee - still no proof of your statements - Ickles Roger?
>> YOU have failed to provide any PROOF that my father's statements are
>> NOT true
>
> Here we see dirty little Tommy do his trick: he starts with an
> assertion, and, when contradicted,
however - it was NOT contradicted -
AS noted above - I said that the christ was NOT the first god to be
claimed to have been raised from the dead
YOU simply said they were falsehoods- but provided NO proof - and YOU
were simply wrong.
Turns out - there are plenty more than I mentioned
Here is a partial list
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life-death-rebirth_deity
that includes:
Julunggul, Wawalag, Tammuz, Ishtar, Phoenix, Quetzalcoatl, Xipe Totoec,
Melqrart, jesus, Zalmoxis, Osiris,Amun, Amun-min, Attunis, Adonis,
Cronus, Dionysus, Orpheus,Persephone, Izanagi, Heitsi, Kaknu, Balldr,
Gullveig, Attis, Mithras, Aeneus, Bacchus, Proserpina, Veles, Janlo,
Dumuz, Inanna
All of these gods were resurrected from the dead - according to their
stories. And most of those are prior to the time of the supposed christ.
Michael Christ
"Thommadura" <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:4a7d5eae$0$22544$607e...@cv.net...
Good, dismiss it as nonsense!
Then the answer for you Thommadura is to simply move on.
But you can't dismiss it, can you.
You are so silly...really. Your actions speak much more than your mouth
ever has.
Michael Christ
Jimmy Alpha
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/518c33efe51560d7?
Charlie, why don't you start all of your posts with, "I'm too lazy for a
real reply so I'll paste this word salad and wish you go away"?
We who have seen you post dogma of faith can only hope you have a better
mastery on your physician skills, and not as wasted or ineffectual as
you are showing yourself as a disciple!
Again, you should start all of your posts with, *I'm too lazy*, or
you could mix it up by interchanging *prideful* if you have the energy...
Jimmy Alpha
_____________________________________________________________________
Thommadura
This time I quoted YOU - it was YOU who said
"It isn't true just because YOU say it"
Which you added nothing to prove it.
And since YOU have failed to support YOUR statement - you are the one
who is silly -
And therefore - if you are not going to add anything you can prove to
the conversation - why don't YOU move on - to the fairy tale groups -
where you belong!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> > Michael McClean wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >>> is writing because this has all been coming from his deceitful heart
> >>> in accord with what is written in Your Word at Jeremiah 17:9. Please
> >>> drive out the deceit in Mike's heart as only You can.
> >>>
> >>> Amen
> >>
> >> News:
> >>
> >> Repetitious marketplace prayer is hypocrisy, Andrew.
> >>
> >> It is deceit.
> >>
> >> All along you have been using Him in your life, Andrew.
> >
> > To quote YOU
> >
> > It isn't true just because you say it -Michael
> >
> > Either YOU can prove it - or it is just dismissed as nonsense
>
> Good, dismiss it as nonsense!
It would be easier to simply dismiss what your spirit of error (self)
had guided you to write as being untrue.
Written prayers are not marketplace prayers as evident by Paul's
epistles which contained written prayers.
Had you been in the Holy Spirit, you would not have fallen into error
and into satan's hands.
Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be28905910576997?
May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Michael Christ
play with you.
Michael Christ
"Thommadura" <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:4a7e0810$0$10281$607e...@cv.net...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> "If you want someone to play with go and play with Andrew B. Chung, he'll
All he will get from this gentile disciple of Jesus are rebukes.
Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be28905910576997?
May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Michael Christ
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:21b10550-fd5c-4f40...@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> Mike McClean wrote:
>>
>> "If you want someone to play with go and play with Andrew B. Chung, he'll
>> play with you." -- Mike McClean to satan
>
> All he will get from this gentile disciple of Jesus are rebukes.
"Jesus is Lord", Andrew. :-).
Now go say it a thousand times, forwards and backwards. Also try standing
on your head and doing it.
Michael Christ
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Roger Pearse
raised him from the dead. (Rom. 10:9) But I don't honestly see the
relevance.
To say that Horus was a crucified saviour born of a virgin etc is not
a matter as between Christian and non-Christian. It is a matter
between educated people, who know better, of all religions and none,
and a tiny number of trolls, fools and bigots who are certain of it,
because they find it convenient.
As such, my religious affiliation is irrelevant to the question. I
could be a reformed Aztec. It's not about me (or anyone else); merely
a question of "what are the facts?" To any who assert this nonsense,
I ask them to produce the ancient sources in support of their
statements. This they are invariably unable to do.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
On Aug 8, 4:49 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:
Roger Pearse
Still not listening to unevidenced claims; too bad that you continue
to behave like the dirtiest of atheists.
> And you still have yet to present proof that a god exists <snip change of subject>
Still waiting to hear about this "god" Horace you invented <snicker>
You wrote, in response to: "...Christ Jesus has since risen from the
dead" this gem: "He wasn't the first god to be so. Horace ,
Isis,Attis, Mithra, Kryshna, and Dionysus all did it before him"
No ancient evidence for your claims? <smile>
Roger Pearse
> Roger Pearsewrote:
> > On Aug 8, 12:53 pm, ThomM <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >> On Aug 7, 9:07 am,Roger Pearse<roger.pea...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Aug 7, 12:21 am, ThomM <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >>>> On Aug 6, 6:24 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> For just three days ...
> >>>> So - you cannot count either
> >>>> From Friday NIGHT to Sunday Morning is NOT three days
> >>>> Another error by the chung man!
> >>>>> So that the good news is that Christ Jesus has since risen from the
> >>>>> dead.
> >>>> He wasn't the first god to be so
> >>>> Horace , Isis,Attis, Mithra, Kryshna, and Dionysus all did it before
> >>>> him
>
> > assertion, and, when contradicted,
>
> however - it was NOT contradicted -
I contradicted it.
> AS noted above - I said that the christ was NOT the first god to be
> claimed to have been raised from the dead
> YOU simply said they were falsehoods-
Indeed I did. That's what I do, when some fool repeats nonsense. I
then expect him to produce evidence for his claims or withdraw them.
> but provided NO proof
Indeed not. Just because some fool asserts something puts no onus on
anyone else to prove him wrong. If he wants to be heard, he has to
justify his comments.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life-death-rebirth_deity
<snicker> Must be true then, if someone says so in Wikipedia, the
"encyclopedia that anyone can edit."
Only ancient evidence counts, and you don't know any. Tell us about
this god "Horace" of yours, for instance. <smile>
Let's discuss Attis, shall we? Of course he was just like Jesus.
Remember how in the gospels, Jesus was the boyfriend of the Phrygian
goddess Cybele? How one day he went off and shagged a nymph; and
Cybele found out? How Cybele cursed Jesus with madness? How Jesus
then sat under a pine tree and chopped his willy off, and then died?
How Cybele calmed down, and asked father Zeus to bring Jesus back to
life? How Zeus, disapproving of the "adultery=castration" meme,
refused?
Yes, that's all in the gospels, isn't it. Oh wait a minute....
Perhaps you see why sensible people consider this sort of story to be
utter crap?
Other crude errors: The only reference to Attis being a god appears
after Christ; previously he was a mortal. The only reference to him
being resurrected appears in Firmicus Maternus, ca. 350 AD -- and
Maternus tells us that the locals just made that bit up, and indeed it
appears nowhere else in the Attis data.
Google is your friend...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> With all due respect, can you, Roger, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>> using your mouth?
>
>raised him from the dead. (Rom. 10:9)
Then please kindly allow this physician to hear you say "Jesus is
LORD" via voicemail at the number listed at the bottom of the
following web site:
(If being caller ID's is an issue there is always *67 before dialing
the number)
Thommadura
> If you want someone to play with go and play with Andrew B. Chung, he'll
> play with you.
>
No thanks - he has a different agenda obviously
WHy - are YOU leaving?
Thommadura
> Well, if you like. Jesus is certainly Lord and I believe that God
> raised him from the dead. (Rom. 10:9) But I don't honestly see the
> relevance.
>
There is no relevance
1 - YOU don't actually know and can prove a god exists to know anything
about that god
2 - THe christ is not a lord - he is just another religious MYTH that
cannot be substantiated in fact or truth .
And the bible remains a statement of belief - that is widely interpreted
in hundreds of different ways by lots of better educated people than Roger.
Thommadura
> On Aug 8, 6:24 pm, ThomM <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Aug 8, 11:06 am,Roger Pearse<roger.pea...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Still not an atheist - too bad YOU cannot read
>
> Still not listening to unevidenced claims; too bad that you continue
> to behave like the dirtiest of atheists.
ANd you calling me an atheist is an UNEVIDENCED claim - when
non-believers have TRUTH on their side - and it is the thiests who are
the dirty liars without any.
>
>> And you still have yet to present proof that a god exists <snip change of subject>
>
> Still waiting to hear about this "god" Horace you invented <snicker>
>
> You wrote, in response to: "...Christ Jesus has since risen from the
> dead"
Which is an Unevidenced CLAIM as well - and therefore dismissed by both
of us - as YOU stated above
YOu still cannot provide a single document that can be dated to the
supposed time of the christ that has his name on it -
So you have no ancient evidence for YOUR claim
Thommadura
>
> Indeed not. Just because some fool asserts something puts no onus on
> anyone else to prove him wrong. If he wants to be heard, he has to
> justify his comments.
Thank YOU
So - I can say that the risen christ is and Unevidenced claim of yours
and dismiss is as some fool making an assertion that puts no onus on ME
to prove you wrong.
If you want to be heard - you have to justify your comments - which to
date have no justification in fact and truth
To date - no supernatural god has been proven to exist - that is the TRUTH.
Michael Christ
You are powerless, Mootman.
Now I know your name.
Michael Christ
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> You are powerless, Mootman.
>
> Now I know your name.
Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be28905910576997?
May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.
Amen.
Love in the truth,
ThomM
> "Thommadura" <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote in message
Oh - gee
YOu mean you finally accepted that there are things you do not know at
11 years old (YOU gave the date as 1998 - so you might still be 10
though) -
So - you studied the etiquette of the internet back before your time -
when it was just starting out - and found out that not only were
Aliases not acceptable - but that users were expected to create an ID
out of their real names - normally first and last - sometimes combined
- and sometimes separated by an underline character.
Keep it up - eventually you might graduate to middle school!
Roger Pearse
wrote:
> Roger Pearsewrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> With all due respect, can you, Roger, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
> >> using your mouth?
>
> >Well, if you like. Jesus is certainly Lord and I believe that God
> >raised him from the dead. (Rom. 10:9)
>
> Then please kindly allow this physician to hear you say "Jesus is
> LORD" via voicemail at the number listed at the bottom of the
> following web site:
No.
Roger Pearse
> > raised him from the dead. (Rom. 10:9) But I don't honestly see the
> > relevance.
>
> There is no relevance
I think not either.
> 1 - YOU don't actually know and can prove a god <snip religious opinions>
Right back at you. These too are irrelevant.
Returning to the subject, I'm still waiting to hear about this "god"
named "Horace" you were telling us about <snicker>
Roger Pearse
> >> On Aug 8, 11:06 am,Roger Pearse<roger.pea...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>> Still not an atheist - too bad YOU cannot read
>
> > Still not listening to unevidenced claims; too bad that you continue
> > to behave like the dirtiest of atheists.
>
<smile>
> >> And you still have yet to present proof that a god exists <snip change of subject>
>
> > Still waiting to hear about this "god" Horace you invented <snicker>
>
><snips evasions>
No answer? I thought not. <smile>
Keep fouling yourself, little Tommy. The question will keep coming
right back.
Roger Pearse
> Roger Pearsewrote:>> but provided NO proof
>
> > Indeed not. Just because some fool asserts something puts no onus on
> > anyone else to prove him wrong. If he wants to be heard, he has to
> > justify his comments.
>
> Thank YOU
>
No evidence? You get no hearing.
Still waiting to hear about "Horace". <smile>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > >> With all due respect, can you, Roger, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
> > >> using your mouth?
> >
> > >Well, if you like. Jesus is certainly Lord and I believe that God
> > >raised him from the dead. (Rom. 10:9)
> >
> > Then please kindly allow this physician to hear you say "Jesus is
> > LORD" via voicemail at the number listed at the bottom of the
> > following web site:
>
> No.
Sad to note that you are not able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
using your mouth.
May GOD give you, Roger, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus.
Amen.
Thommadura
> On Aug 10, 11:07 pm, Thommadura <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> Roger Pearsewrote:
>>> Well, if you like. Jesus is certainly Lord and I believe that God
>>> raised him from the dead. (Rom. 10:9) But I don't honestly see the
>>> relevance.
>> There is no relevance
>
> I think not either.
>
>> 1 - YOU don't actually know and can prove a god <snip religious opinions>
>
> Right back at you. These too are irrelevant.
Sorry - but the SUBJECT was about Ressurection
AND no god has ever been proven to have risen from the dead - including
the christ - BUT there are dozens of religions that have stories of
resurrections - some of them predate christianity
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life-death-rebirth_deity
Which docuemnts the following gods life/death/ressurections
* Australian Mythology
o Julunggul[citation needed]
o Wawalag
* Akkadian mythology
o Tammuz
o Ishtar
* Arabian mythology
o Phoenix
* Aztec mythology
o Quetzalcoatl
o Xipe Totec
* Canaanite mythology
o Melqart
* Christian mythology
o Jesus
* Dacian mythology
o Zalmoxis
* Egyptian mythology
o Osiris
o Amun
o Amun-Min (Amen-Min)
* Etruscan mythology
o Atunis
* Greek mythology
o Adonis
o Cronus
o Dionysus
o Orpheus
o Persephone
* Japanese mythology
o Izanagi
* Khoikhoi mythology
o Heitsi
* Native American mythology
o Kaknu
* Norse mythology
o Baldr [3]
o Gullveig [4]
* Phrygian mythology
o Attis
* Religion in ancient Rome
o Mithras
o Aeneas
o Bacchus
o Proserpina
* Slavic mythology
o Veles
o Jarilo
* Sumerian mythology
o Dumuzi
o Inanna
Thommadura
Horus - the egyptian god. Of course - you are not educated enough to
recognize that one.
Horus is the son of Osiris - who was brought back from the dead by ISIS
- in order to sire Horus.
The story of Osiris being killed by Set - and raised from the dead by
Isis - to father Horus - is well documented in Temple Writings in Egypt
- in multiple cases -including the Temple to Osiris at Abydos - which
dates to 4000 BCE - long before the christ myth - as well as the Temple
Osireion, the one made by Seti I.
On the wall of the temple is the Following Hymn among the many that
describe the life - death -and resurection of Osiris at the hand of Isis
- to father Horus.
HYMN TO OSIRIS-SOKAR
FORMULAE for the bringing in of Osiris-Sokar, in connection with the
mysteries spoken heretofore.
Hail, royal one, coming forth in the body!
Hail, hereditary son, chief of the ranks of the gods!
Hail, lord of many existences!
Hail, thou whose substance is like gold in the temples!
Hail, lord of the duration of life, giver of years!
Hail, lord living throughout eternity!
Hail, lord worthy of many hundreds of thousands of praises!
Hail, brilliant one, both at thy rising and thy setting!
Hail to him who maketh pleasant all that which breatheth!
Behold the lord of great fear and trembling
Hail, lord of many divinities!
Hail, resplendent one-with the white crown, lord of the royal crown!
Behold the sacred child of Horus, the praised one!
Hail, thou soul of Ra, in the adored boat
Hail, thou restful leader! take possession of thy shrine.
Behold the lord of fear, who causeth himself to come into being!
Hail, thou whose heart palpitateth not,--take possession of thy city!
Behold the one beloved of gods and goddesses
Hail, thou who causeth the inundation,--take possession of thy temple!
Hail, dweller in the underworld,--take possession of thy offerings!
Hail, thou protector,--take possession of thy temple!
Hail, thou who growest like unto the ape of Tehuti, or to the shining
sunlight!
Hail, thou flower honoured of Pharaoh!
Hail, thou who handlest the holy rigging of the Sektet-boat! 1
Behold the lord of youth,--he becometh old in his shrine!
Behold the excellent souls, which are in the realms of Death!
Behold the sacred designer of north and south!
Behold the mysterious one, lie who is unknown to mankind!
Rail, thou enlightener of those who are in the underworld, that they may
see the sunlight!
Behold the lord of the Atef crown, the great one in Suten-Henen!
Hail, thou great and terrible one of Naret!
Hail, dweller in Uast, 1 flourishing for ever!
Hail, Amen-Ra, King of the Gods, who causeth his members to grow in his
rising and in his setting!
Hail, receiver of monuments and offerings at the entrance of the tomb!
Hail, thou who placest the Uraeus crown upon the head of its lord!
Hail, thou who causest the earth to remain in its place!
Rail, opener of the mouth of the four great gods who are in the underworld!
Rail, living soul of Osiris, crowning him with the moon!
Hail, thou who dost hide his essence in the great shrine of Amen!
Hail, thou hidden God, Osiris in the underworld!
Hail, thou whose soul resteth in heaven,--whose enemy hath fallen!
The Goddess Isis speaketh unto thee, uttering a cry from the river--
"Send the purified 'Abd'-fish from before the boat of Ra, oh lord of the
beginning,
Who becometh like the immortal ones that rejoice,--thou egg who becometh
as one renewed."
She cutteth off the heads of the enemies in this her name of "Lady of
Tepka."
Oh, lady of the beginning, come thou before our faces in this her name
of Hathor, lady of emerald, lady of Uast the holy!
Come thou in peace, because of this her name of Hathor, lady of Uast the
holy!
Come thou in peace, oh Tayt, in this her name of lady of peace!
Come thou in front, to overthrow her enemy, in this her name of Hathor,
lady of the temple of Suten-Henen, the golden!
Come thou in peace, in this her name of Hathor, lady of Inbut!
Come thou in peace beside Neb-er-zer in this name of Hathor, lady of
Shet-Tekh!
Shine, oh golden one, beside her father in this her name of Bast.
Go forward over the temples and by the side of the great temple, in this
her name of Satet.
The two lands become fertile,--regulate thou the gods in this her name
of Mazit.
Hathor overpowereth the enemy of her father by this her name of Sekhet!
Mazit overpowereth exceedingly in this her name of lady of Immu.
She placeth perfume upon her head and her hair, in this her name of Neit.
Extol him before the gods, and before his witnesses!
Hathor is the lady of Uast Hathor is the lady of Suten-Henen:
Hathor is the lady of Tepka Hathor is the lady of Mehut:
Hathor is the lady of Rehesau: Hathor is the lady of Shet-Desret:
Hathor is the lady of the Turquoise: Hathor is the lady of Ineb:
Hathor is the lady of Uahwah: Hathor is the lady of Ammu:
Hathor is the lady of Imem: Hathor is as Hennu of Met-Sas!
The nine companions 1 approach--let your arms be beneath your father
Osiris--protect the land. (Repeat four times.)
Hail, thou crowned lord of the feast! (Repeat twice.)
Oh prince! hail! it is sweet for the courtesans whom thou lovest!
Hail, thou who livest twice over throughout eternity!
Hail!-thou keepest festival for ever!
Hail, adored one: thou advancest along the ways!
Hail, thou who art established in the regions above the heavens!
Hail, oh God,--hear thou! Protect the land!
Hear thou the cry--protect the land from the gates of the heavenly nomes!
Hail to him who cometh forth with his two eyes, son of the servant of God!,
Hail, protector, preserver when thou speakest!
Hail, protector of Pharaoh, when be doeth what thou lovest!
Hail, protector of Pharaoh, when he causeth thy praises to be made!
Hail, thou seated one, for there cometh to thee this peace of heart!
Hail to the son of--the servant of God--there is recited for him the
service of the festival!
Hail, thou who art established by the name of Deddu-above-the-heavens!
Hail, thou sweet-scented one in Deddu-above-the-heavens!
Hail, thou who comest subduing hostile ones
Hail, thou who comest adoring the Infant!
Hail, thou who producest his fear in rebellious hearts!
Hail, oh worker who followeth his lord, though the follower of the god
Bast attendeth him not!
Behold, there are rebellious hearts, hating the temple, but the end of
all things strikes them upon their necks!
monkfish
> Roger Pearse wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Roger Pearse wrote:
>> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >
>> > >> With all due respect, can you, Roger, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>> > >> using your mouth?
>> >
>> > >Well, if you like. Jesus is certainly Lord and I believe that God
>> > >raised him from the dead. (Rom. 10:9)
>> >
>> > Then please kindly allow this physician to hear you say "Jesus is
>> > LORD" via voicemail at the number listed at the bottom of the
>> > following web site:
>>
>> No.
>
> Sad to note that you are not able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
> using your mouth.
Can you publicly say "God is everywhere"?
--
monkfish
Roger Pearse
wrote:
> Roger Pearsewrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >Roger Pearsewrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > >> With all due respect, can you, Roger, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
> > > >> using your mouth?
>
> > > >Well, if you like. Jesus is certainly Lord and I believe that God
> > > >raised him from the dead. (Rom. 10:9)
>
> > > Then please kindly allow this physician to hear you say "Jesus is
> > > LORD" via voicemail at the number listed at the bottom of the
> > > following web site:
>
> > No.
>
> Sad to note that you are not able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
I smell a troll.
Knowing that I almost never post on religion, you demanded a
confession of faith from me, even though it was irrelevant. I gave
it. You then cast around for some further demand; that I *telephone*
you -- as if you had any right or I any obligation to do so. And, if
I had, no doubt you would have demanded something further; until you
got what you wanted, which was a refusal. Then you posted your
sermon.
Piss off, you dishonest little prick.
Roger Pearse
Roger Pearse
> Roger Pearsewrote:
> > On Aug 10, 11:07 pm, Thommadura <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >> Roger Pearsewrote:
> >>> Well, if you like. Jesus is certainly Lord and I believe that God
> >>> raised him from the dead. (Rom. 10:9) But I don't honestly see the
> >>> relevance.
> >> There is no relevance
>
> > I think not either.
>
> >> 1 - YOU don't actually know and can prove a god <snip religious opinions>
>
> > Right back at you. These too are irrelevant.
>
No proof? I thought not. Funny how you run away every time your
claims are challenged, and then post them again, and again.
But... still waiting to hear about this god Horace you asserted rose
from the dead. <snicker>
Roger Pearse
> Roger Pearsewrote:
> > On Aug 10, 11:16 pm, Thommadura <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >> Roger Pearsewrote:>> but provided NO proof
>
> >>> Indeed not. Just because some fool asserts something puts no onus on
> >>> anyone else to prove him wrong. If he wants to be heard, he has to
> >>> justify his comments.
> >> Thank YOU
>
> >> So - I can say <snip claims, change of subject>
>
> > No evidence? You get no hearing.
>
> > Still waiting to hear about "Horace". <smile>
>
> That mispelling was made by my son - and Obviously he meant The god
> Horus - the egyptian god.
Obviously. <snicker>
> Of course - you are not educated enough to recognize that one.
At least I can spell, and I write my own posts!
> Horus is the son of Osiris - who was brought back from the dead by ISIS
> - in order to sire Horus.
Indeed so. But you were saying that HORUS came back from the dead.
Good luck with that one.
As for Osiris, you know very little about him.
> The story of Osiris being killed by Set - and raised from the dead by
> Isis - to father Horus - is well documented in Temple Writings in Egypt
> <snip paste>
I think so too.
But since you're making the claim, you get to prove it. Which "temple
writings" specifically? Produce them, in English, with proper
references, and without unnecessary verbosity.
I await your evasion with bated breath. You know damn all about
ancient Egypt; unlike you, I do.
Who knows? You might be able to find the necessary information on
Google, if you try.
monkfish
> Mike McClean wrote:
>>
>> You are powerless, Mootman.
>>
>> Now I know your name.
>
> Bottom line concerning you:
Is this your bottom line?
Local Church of Witness Lee?
http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=3&id=31&Itemid=8
http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=479&Itemid=8&limit=1&limitstart=2
[quote]
Witness Lee provides commentary on 1 Corinthians 12:13 to explain how one is
to exercise his spirit:
"No man can say Lord Jesus but in the Holy Spirit" (I Cor. 12:3). In other
words, whenever you say "Lord Jesus" in a real way, it means that you are
in the Spirit....To be in the Spirit really means to be in the power and
inspiration of the Holy Spirit....There is no need for you to wait for
inspiration; you are already in it. We all have to learn to say "Lord
Jesus" in the meeting, in our home, and a thousand times a day. I hope
that the sisters while they are shopping in the supermarket will say "Lord
Jesus" many times. While they are walking down the aisles and considering
what to buy, they must say "Lord Jesus." We all must say this. If we are
going to lose our temper, we must say, "O Lord Jesus!" Then our temper will
be gone. There is no need for us to read so many books to become holy. I
tell you, you can become holy just by saying "Lord Jesus." Whenever you
say "Lord Jesus," you are in the Holy Spirit. It is wonderful.
[/quote]
--
monkfish
GreatSageItchy
<e2c51f2a-bf73-46ed...@c1g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
Roger Pearse <roger....@googlemail.com> wrote:
Chung is TOTALLY INSANE...
Please don't feed insane trolls.
Roger Pearse
wrote:
> In article
> <e2c51f2a-bf73-46ed-bd90-d7c946d7c...@c1g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
Good advice, I'm sure. But it wasn't insanity -- which I can forgive
-- which was involved there, but dishonesty.
ThomM
> On Aug 10, 10:29 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WIJ.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Roger Pearsewrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >> With all due respect, can you, Roger, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
> > >> using your mouth?
>
> > >Well, if you like. Jesus is certainly Lord and I believe that God
> > >raised him from the dead. (Rom. 10:9)
Of course - that is NOT true
The christ admitted he is not a lord in the bible
John 5:31
If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
John 1:18
No man has seen god.
Since JOHN himself saw the christ - then the christ CANNOT be god.
ThomM
Provide a list of ALL the things YOU CAN PROVE to be true that he is
being dishonest about
OTherwise - your statement is simply another unevidenced claim - as
YOU said.
ThomM
> On Aug 11, 12:11 pm, Thommadura <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Roger Pearsewrote:
> > > On Aug 10, 11:16 pm, Thommadura <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote:
> > >> Roger Pearsewrote:>> but provided NO proof
>
> > >>> Indeed not. Just because some fool asserts something puts no onus on
> > >>> anyone else to prove him wrong. If he wants to be heard, he has to
> > >>> justify his comments.
> > >> Thank YOU
>
> > >> So - I can say <snip claims, change of subject>
>
> > > No evidence? You get no hearing.
>
> > > Still waiting to hear about "Horace". <smile>
>
> > That mispelling was made by my son - and Obviously he meant The god
> > Horus - the egyptian god.
>
> Obviously. <snicker>
>
> > Of course - you are not educated enough to recognize that one.
>
> At least I can spell, and I write my own posts!
>
> > Horus is the son of Osiris - who was brought back from the dead by ISIS
> > - in order to sire Horus.
>
> Indeed so. But you were saying that HORUS came back from the dead.
> Good luck with that one.
>
> As for Osiris, you know very little about him.
Another Unevidenced claim
>
> > The story of Osiris being killed by Set - and raised from the dead by
> > Isis - to father Horus - is well documented in Temple Writings in Egypt
> > <snip paste>
>
> I think so too.
>
> But since you're making the claim, you get to prove it. Which "temple
> writings" specifically? Produce them, in English, with proper
> references, and without unnecessary verbosity.
>
> I await your evasion with bated breath. You know damn all about
> ancient Egypt; unlike you, I do.
HAHAHAHA
THe biggest whopper of then all
GO ahead - prove you know ALL about ancient egypt. Have you even been
to egypt?
Still another unevidenced claim from ROGER that is DISMISSED as
nonsense.
Michael Christ
> Bottom line concerning you:
Bottom line concerning you Andrew...
You're stuck.
But you know what's best.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
"ThomM" <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:40477c2f-6b9d-4283...@e4g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 10, 6:35 pm, "Michael Christ" <JesusisL...@Father.com> wrote:
> "Thommadura" <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>
> news:4a809944$0$22505$607e...@cv.net...
>
> > Michael Christ wrote:
> >> If you want someone to play with go and play with Andrew B. Chung,
> >> he'll
> >> play with you.
>
> > No thanks - he has a different agenda obviously
>
> > WHy - are YOU leaving?
>
> You are powerless, Mootman.
>
> Now I know your name.
>
> Michael Christ
ThomM wrote:
>Oh - gee
>YOu mean you finally accepted that there are things you do not know at
>11 years old (YOU gave the date as 1998 - so you might still be 10
>though) -
>So - you studied the etiquette of the internet back before your time -
>when it was just starting out - and found out that not only were
>Aliases not acceptable - but that users were expected to create an ID
>out of their real names - normally first and last - sometimes combined
>- and sometimes separated by an underline character.
Why don't you find out what they did in the 50s as well and promote that.
:-).
Unbelievable!
ThomM wrote:
>Keep it up - eventually you might graduate to middle school!
Great. Well said. Tremendous work! No need now to chant your religion,
its understood. Fantastic!
Now move on Mootboy, find some greater work for your mind now.
Michael Christ
ThomM
> "ThomM" <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote in message
Sorry - child - but around here the adults don't take orders from the
CHILDREN
Come back when you are old enough to know something!
Roger Pearse
<contempt>
Roger Pearse
> On Aug 11, 12:22 pm,Roger Pearse<roger.pea...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 11, 12:11 pm, Thommadura <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > > Roger Pearsewrote:
> > > > On Aug 10, 11:16 pm, Thommadura <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote:
> > > >> Roger Pearsewrote:>> but provided NO proof
>
> > > >>> Indeed not. Just because some fool asserts something puts no onus on
> > > >>> anyone else to prove him wrong. If he wants to be heard, he has to
> > > >>> justify his comments.
> > > >> Thank YOU
>
> > > >> So - I can say <snip claims, change of subject>
>
> > > > No evidence? You get no hearing.
>
> > > > Still waiting to hear about "Horace". <smile>
>
> > > That mispelling was made by my son - and Obviously he meant The god
> > > Horus - the egyptian god.
>
> > Obviously. <snicker>
>
> > > Of course - you are not educated enough to recognize that one.
>
> > At least I can spell, and I write my own posts!
>
> > > Horus is the son of Osiris - who was brought back from the dead by ISIS
> > > - in order to sire Horus.
>
> > Indeed so. But you were saying that HORUS came back from the dead.
> > Good luck with that one.
>
> > As for Osiris, you know very little about him.
>
> Another Unevidenced claim
<snicker> I note you don't care to disagree.
> > > The story of Osiris being killed by Set - and raised from the dead by
> > > Isis - to father Horus - is well documented in Temple Writings in Egypt
> > > <snip paste>
>
> > I think so too.
>
> > But since you're making the claim, you get to prove it. Which "temple
> > writings" specifically? Produce them, in English, with proper
> > references, and without unnecessary verbosity.
>
> > I await your evasion with bated breath. You know damn all about
> > ancient Egypt; unlike you, I do.
>
> HAHAHAHA <etc>
No answer? I thought not. <contempt>
Thommadura
I see - NO proof again
Thommadura
About something YOU provide no PROOF for - we just DISMISS those as
Unsupported
>
>>>> The story of Osiris being killed by Set - and raised from the dead by
>>>> Isis - to father Horus - is well documented in Temple Writings in Egypt
>>>> <snip paste>
>>> I think so too.
>>> But since you're making the claim, you get to prove it. Which "temple
>>> writings" specifically? Produce them, in English, with proper
>>> references, and without unnecessary verbosity.
>>> I await your evasion with bated breath. You know damn all about
>>> ancient Egypt; unlike you, I do.
Still another UNEVIDENCED claim that is not only dismissed - it is a
belly laugh for being so much nonsense.
>> HAHAHAHA <etc>
Ah - snipped the statement again - Roger
So - you know ALL about ancient Egypt - but you failed to indicate that
you ever were there. Still - it is a unique claim - since the experts on
ancient egypt don't know ALL - as you claim.
How about telling us where the mummy of Snefru is buried!
How about quoting the text of the Hymn to Osiris from the TEmple Philae-
which as you say you know - was found inscribed on the walls of the temple
or the Hymn to Osiris -Sokar - also inscribed on the walls of that temple
dolf
for the Commonwealth--the atheist ones are particularly feral mongrels
who are a disease in this country. Another month or so and I should have
my project sufficiently progressed to present a human rights complaint
to the Dutch consulate--bypassing Australian justice altogether as immoral.
"I see - NO proof again" [Thommadura <tomm...@optonline.net>]
That aboriginal art conception of vast distance, their land and
cosmology, demonstrates (if designation of the year into seven portions)
a preservation of a rational natural and common law mind by nomadic
peoples--And that the usage of the latin term Terra Nullus cannot then
be used and understood as claimed in 1770 by Captain James Cook as
meaning that Terra Australis was "land belonging to no one" as
unoccupied land which is now the Commonwealth of Australia.
You need to appreciate what Dutch religious belief of 1730 CE with all
its richness of Christian, Jewish and Chinese DAO assimilation and its
guild understanding of autonomic belief has as connectedness to
aboriginal art conceptions of vast distance, their land and cosmology.
The point within the circle also plays a role in German Philosopher
Heidegger's (1889�1976) cogito as the starting point of philosophy and
the pervasiveness of the hermeneutic circle and Aboriginal protests
against the mistreatment of Jews in pre-war Nazi Germany made to the
German console general in Melbourne on 15 December 1938."
- dolf
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/jahaag.html
That given recent European questions of Microsoft's propriety towards
the STATE, and of course the representation of the natural and common
law definition of MARRIAGE in our legislation, raises a question of the
suitable adoption of an information economy using the vCube Grapple
Homoiotic Noumenon as the core fore staging values, beliefs and
psychosomatic framework for autonomic, corporate and states based
governance within the Commonwealth.
I am in superannuated retirement and a recipient of salary continuance
benevolence on the basis of religious, racial and sexual vilification
made in relation to HIV acquired as symptomatic of post traumatic stress
after a bomb blast incident in proximity during a period of police
service as oath of office sworn before the revoking of the 1900 letters
patent to the Australian commonwealth and concerning a subsequent
contract of employment which whilst including an AIDS exclusion clause
also imposes a definition of marriage--as breaching my Intellectual
Property, natural and common law right.
This particular intellectual property (ie. able to be held in mind) as
spatial reality and association made to temporal cognitive elements is
what I describe to the mind in time/space as being physically strapped
into a gyroscope and twisting about.
I have on 3 November 2008 provided a letter as preliminary instructions
to my lawyers with respect to proceeding with a warrant for the arrest
of Mr. Michael D�Argaville and the Panel Chair Mr. Michael Arnold over
the claim of Treason against the Sovereign Autonomic Right under the
Commonwealth occasioning deferral to the Federal Government�s August
2004 amendments to the definition of Marriage as slander and the denial
of justice by the Financial Industry Complaints Service Limited (now
Financial Ombudsman Service �FOS�) in relation to religious, racial and
sexual vilification.
Our intention is to pursue Mr. Michael D�Argaville and the Panel Chair
Mr. Michael Arnold for religious, racial and sexual vilification on the
basis of their engaging within marriage and oath in association to a
religious belief and that the fraudulent, collusional and arrogant
nature of this religious practice is the cause for the unlawful conduct
by these individuals.
We find it extra-ordinary that religious and political refugees to this
country--who have no intention of giving compliance to the laws of this
country can continue to impede our own access to justice, religious and
democratic freedom which is denied to us in Australia and do so against
the rights of Indigenous Dutch Australians."
Guardian Snow (American Yahwehist) OZ Parasite: "Let us both work
together to show our belief by our works, be blessed and THANK YOU."
(ru) dolf: "You need to appreciate what Dutch religious belief of 1730
CE with all its richness of Christian, Jewish and Chinese DAO
assimilation and its guild understanding of autonomic belief has as
connectedness to aboriginal art conceptions of vast distance, their land
and cosmology.
I am not going to rest until the Chief Executive Officer to the Equal
Opportunity and Human Rights Commission is brought to trial for treason
occasioning religious, racial and sexual vilification of the autonomic
right under the State.
I expect her to be executed for such crimes against the state."
Rod (rodea...@ymail.com): "Dolf, I have absolutely nothing against you
and I value you as a human being, but Dolf you MUST see a shrink before
you get any worse, and this is not an exaggeration. Mental illness is
like a silent sickness to it's victims, and it will creep up on you and
eat your lunch before you know it has happened!
Please Dolf, call a shrink today and talk with them, show them some of
your posts. Get well Dolf, we are rooting for you!"
Carl McCluskey (sai...@nettally.com): "This is the delusional and sick
fantasies that reveal the mental illnesses of which you admitted before.
You are beginning to be a danger to others and frankly I hope you are
committed for your own good so you can get the medical attention you so
desperately need. The fact remains that you will pass away before your
sick fantasy comes true. Please get the medical help you need and the
medications that will bring you back to reality.
(ru) dolf: "You will remember that when you studied your geometry in
school you were told that a point was simply location or a center,
without length, breadth or thickness. No having dimension, therefore, a
point cannot be said to be a thing {ie. POINT = 49J7W as determination
of the Sabbath Jubilee year associated to the 'oth cycle of 6D as 2184
day solar / lunar cycle recommencing each 6J = 294 x 364 or 293 x
365.2425 days on 20 March}...
"And I also related to you the Sabbaths of the land on Mount Sinai. And
the years of jubilee in the Sabbaths of years I related to you. But its
year I have not related to you ... on account of this I ordained for you
the weeks of years, and the years, and the jubilees as FORTY-NINE
JUBILEES from the days of Adam {Taken from 4 corners/ Earthy; red} until
this day and ONE WEEK AND TWO YEARS. [ie. 49J1W2D + 40 years = 49J7W
where the difference of 49.7 days occurs between the 365.2425 day
topical year and 364 day religious calendars]
And there are still forty further years [as 5W5D given 6D = 2184 days as
the 2 x 1092 days of the 'oth-'wonders and signs' as being a 3 x 364 day
solar / 3 x 354 day lunar + 30 day intercalation cycle] to learn the
commands of the LORD until they cross over the shore of the land of
Canaan {Merchant; trader; or that humbles and subdues}, crossing over
the Jordan {The river of judgment: See also the Category of
Understanding #369 = #8, #300, #2, #4, #50, #5 as 'n. Thought of
Judgment'} to its western side." [Jubilees 50:1-5]
The point within the circle also plays a role in German Philosopher
Heidegger's (1889�1976) cogito as the starting point of philosophy and
the pervasiveness of the hermeneutic circle and Aboriginal protests
against the mistreatment of Jews in pre-war Nazi Germany made to the
German console general in Melbourne on 15 December 1938.
That aboriginal art conception of vast distance, their land and
cosmology demonstrates, if one considers the designation of the year
into seven portions:
ONE: 1, 2, 3
TWO: 0, 3, 6
THREE: 0, 9, 18
FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragrammation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of Number
(Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) - phoenix: 206
BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9�+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX: 0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN: 0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day and ipso facto 25
March) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE of 1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and
substantiation of Christian identity.
A preservation of a rational natural and common law mind by nomadic
peoples--And that the usage of the latin term Terra Nullus cannot then
be used and understood as claimed in 1770 by Captain James Cook as
meaning that Terra Australis was "land belonging to no one" or
unoccupied land which is now the Commonwealth of Australia."
Carl McCluskey (sai...@nettally.com): "I see you haven't had any success
arresting anyone at hotmail nor anyplace else as you threatened. Empty
threats are typical from you. You need psychiatric counseling for the
mental illnesses of which you admitted. I doubt you were ever a sworn
officer. You are probably lying about that as well."
(ru) dolf: "In fact, continues Albert Pike, a point is nothing
materially speaking. It cannot be proven by any physical sense for no
one has ever seen or felt, heard, smelt or tasted a point. Yet we know
that it is the beginning of Geometry and while its very existence cannot
be 'proved' to the senses we are positive that it does exist, because
all geometrical operations must start from it. Were there no point,
neither line, surface nor solid could be produced. It is the foundation
upon which the three physical dimensions must stand." [THE POINT WITHIN
A CIRCLE -- General Albert Pike, A Masonic Study, p 2]
Marjorie Grene admits that when she studied in Germany, she was taken
with Heidegger but that quickly changed: "By 1934, . . I was thoroughly
disillusioned with all these �deep meanings�. It was out of necessity�or
sheer historical contingency, which is a kind of necessity�that I
returned to Heidegger�s work and to literature in some ways akin to it,
in other words, to what is called continental as distinct from
analytical philosophy. Since I had studied with Heidegger, and the
following year with Jaspers, I was asked to write about these people
when they came into vogue among us after the war. And since I had lost
my job and was tied down by farm and family so that I couldn�t wander
off looking for another position, I thought I should do whatever I was
asked to do that was in any way philosophical, in order not to get lost
altogether from any contact with my profession. Every time I wrote about
the stuff, I said, �.Ugh, never again'�.
About Heidegger and his discussion of being-in-the-world, Grene offers a
little praise, but not very much: Heidegger�s discussion, Grene sees, as
making a �move against the cogito as the starting point of philosophy?�
and he appropriately stresses the pervasiveness of the hermeneutic
circle but Heidegger is a contorted �jungle of neologisms�.
Worse than the arbitrary and unintelligible style is the fact that
Heidegger�s human being �is as disembodied as any Cartesian mind could
be� and the fact that there is a �deep connection between that account
and Heidegger�s undoubted Nazism or fanatical German nationalism. . .�.
It is true, I suppose, that she is somewhat more sympathetic to the
early than the late Heidegger whose writing she simply dubs �appalling
nonsense�! Grene is only a little less harsh with Sartre�s ideas about
being-in-the-world and, more generally, with Being and Nothingness:
�Like Hume�s Treatise, it is one of the transcendent works of our
philosophical tradition which show how, given inadequate premises, a
particular movement of thought works itself into an impassable dead end�.
But, as I have noted above, Grene thinks Merleau-Ponty is an enormously
important thinker who, like Polanyi, tries to redirect the philosophical
tradition. She did not study Merleau-Ponty until 1960-61, after she had
been working with Polanyi on Personal Knowledge (1958), but when she did
read The Phenomenology of Perception what she found was a companion
piece to Personal Knowledge: �. . . Merleau-Ponty�s book seemed to me to
convey the same message, but in the opposite order, and in a language
that I could both understand and use (or so it seemed at the time)�.
[Phil Mullins, Vintage Marjorie Grene (d. 16 March 2009): A Review Essay
on A Philosophical Testament Professor Marjorie Grene]
One who rebukes his fellow should not (at the start) speak with him so
harshly that he shames him, as it is stated, '[You shall surely rebuke
your fellow] and you shall not bear upon him a sin' (Leviticus 19:17).
So [too] did the Sages say, 'I might think you must rebuke him [while]
his face is turning colors, [the verse] comes to teach us, 'and you
shall not bear upon him a sin' (Talmud Erchin 16b). From here [we see]
that it is forbidden to shame a Jew, all the more so in public.
"Even though one who shames his fellow does not receive lashes, it is a
terrible sin. So did the Sages say, 'One who shames (lit., 'makes
white') the face of his fellow... has no share in the World to Come'
(Pirkei Avos 3:15). Therefore, one must be careful in this matter --
that he not embarrass his fellow publicly, whether a small or great
[person]. And he should not call him a name which shames him, nor should
he speak before him about a matter which embarrasses him.
"When does all of this apply? In matters between a person and his
fellow. But in matters of heaven if he did not repent [after you rebuked
him] privately, we shame him publicly, we publicize his sin, we execrate
him to his face, and we disgrace and curse him until he returns to the
better -- as did all the Prophets to Israel." [(c) 2009 By Rabbi Dovid
Rosenfeld, Crying Out, Project Genesis 2009.8.10]
(ru) dolf: "In support of that prosecution, we introduce here the notion
of our Project Biblos as a consideration that the vCube GRAPPLE
HOMOIOTIC NOUMENON is a technology embedded within the BIBLE and have
since demonstrated that in the production of BIBLE based categories with
STRONGS numbering:
http://www.grapple.id.au/strongsIDEAS.js
As producing some 26,000 lines of Javascript semantic data OBJECT of
such direct HEBREW and GREEK language association between all the
categories of the mathematical vCube {totalCategories: 400, totalCount:
24102} and the Bible.
Having produced this form, we'll firstly extract the STRONGS reference
from this strongsIDEAS {} data OBJECT and represent these in our
biblos.html (PROJECT BIBLOS) code example.
http://www.grapple.id.au/biblos.html
Following which, we'll analyze the vBOEK[SECTION][chapter][verse] nodes
for the dynamic expansion of these same STRONGS references within the
BIBLICAL text, to determine in which of these a strategic dispersal as
direct relationship with the vCube occurs.
Subsequently, we'll examine the sub-categories in the same manner."
Randy � [Sody] Barbara (pulpi...@gmail.com): "Love rejoices in the
truth. Telling people the truth is not a failure to love them.
Neglecting their need for truth, with "sweet" talk and being "nice",
while never offering them the truth they need to change their mind
about, is."
(ru) dolf: "I've begun sending this directly to individuals because they
are under the mistaken belief that as a gay man I can be excluded from
any discussion they have of gay religious and marriage rights.
That my religious belief as Torah and DAOist compliant Christian belief
is sustained by a technological core as semiotic natural and common law
cosmological model.
That there is no common ground between their claim to religious belief
and my own religious belief as there is between my own religious belief
and those expressed by Rabbi Jaakov Feldman in his interpretation of
Ramchal (Rabbi Moshe Chaim Luzzatto) as an immigrant from Rome, Italy to
the Netherlands in the 1730's and some 40 years before Captain Cook's
military incursion of Australia."
Kelly [rosy belle] Ann Siebecke (316...@gmail.com): "You totally missed
the point - whether you did it intentionally or you just are unable to
grasp the concept of what loving others in Jesus Christ is - I don't know."
Randy � [Sody] Barbara (pulpi...@gmail.com): "ibid. As determined by
the lie that love is some kind of sweet talk or being nice, that
neglects the truth necessary for people's eternal well-being. John said
'whom I love in the truth'."
Kelly [rosy belle] Ann Siebecke (316...@gmail.com): "That is why the
lost fight you in defense of themselves - because there is no
demonstrated love in your manner, your words, or your actions."
Randy � [Sody] Barbara (pulpi...@gmail.com): "Paul said love rejoices
in the truth, not iniquity. Giving people the truth they need for
salvation is love. Neglecting it, while substituting sweet talk is like
handing someone a poison flower."
Kelly [rosy belle] Ann Siebecke (316...@gmail.com): "Cut to Randy,
still not getting what loving others in Jesus Christ is all about and
how it is done. What they see is everything that is the opposite of
love. Saying the words is not enough - you have to live the words and
demonstrate. Until you do, you will forever find yourself at odds with
those you believe are lost in these groups. Not for the reasons
(actually excuses) you give or believe for why they remain at odds with
your "group", but because they see nothing attractive in the Gospel as
your "group" presents it."
Randy � [Sody] Barbara (pulpi...@gmail.com): "ibid. And I don't really
care what the latest opinion poll is."
Kelly [rosy belle] Ann Siebecke (316...@gmail.com): "You should. Jesus
said that "by their fruits you will know them" - you have no loving
fruit in Usenet. None. Zero. Zip. Zilch. That should concern you."
Randy � [Sody] Barbara (pulpi...@gmail.com): "I know how Christ
addressed those who promoted false gospels, and I know how Paul did.
There is a difference in how you treat the lost in general, and the lost
who come promoting false gospels, since the latter set death traps both
for other lost souls and the elect.
There aren't many in here who are just lost and looking for answers, at
least as far as who actually post anything. There are far more who come
in here who are lost and promoting lies and false gospels that will
result in the eternal damnation of those who may be looking for the
truth. Defending the truth against their lies the way Christ and Paul
did, is showing love towards them."
Kelly [rosy belle] Ann Siebecke (316...@gmail.com): "Nope. Still not
getting it, I see."
Randy � [Sody] Barbara (pulpi...@gmail.com): "ibid. Christ drew
throngs so long as he healed them and gave them free bread."
Kelly [rosy belle] Ann Siebecke (316...@gmail.com): "Oh...you can't be
serious! He drew them because He first loved them! (remember, 'we love
Him because He first loved us'?)"
Randy � [Sody] Barbara (pulpi...@gmail.com): "The minute He started
confronting them with the doctrine of election, all but 12 abandoned Him
(John 6). The elect will remain elect regardless of whether I sweet talk
them, and no amount of sweet talk will result in the salvation of
someone who is not elect."
Kelly [rosy belle] Ann Siebecke (316...@gmail.com): "Wrong again.
You're still not getting it, and now you're making excuses (which tells
me you actually do get what I'm saying but really don't want to admit it
because when you do, you know you will be obligated to do something
about it and change your Usenet ways).
Do you really think that God's gonna be okay with the excuse of, "you
know Lord, I really did show them love because I gave the truth of the
Gospel - I did it while deriding them, insulting them, calling them
names, telling them they were all going to hell in a handbasket and if
they didn't turn they were going to burn - they didn't need me to
actually *show them* the love of Jesus because I did it with words,
rather than actions and example..."
Honestly, Randy - you might want to think a little deeper on this
subject and push your head-knowledge, excuses, and pride out of the way
in so doing. I don't want to see Him then saying to you in response,
"depart from Me...I never knew you".
Patrick [The Chief Instigator] Humphrey (pat...@io.com): "Where's your
incontrovertible proof that he's slandering you?"
Randy � [Sody] Barbara (pulpi...@gmail.com): "On the contrary, those
who love lies and eternal damnation are the ones who fail to defend the
truth of the gospel and Christ's deity in here."
(ru) dolf: "That your religious conduct in light of my 11 September 2001
compliant statement of religious belief renders your behavior as treason
and disloyalty to both the United States of America and the Commonwealth
of Australia."
Patrick [The Chief Instigator] Humphrey (pat...@io.com): "...and since
you have no authority in either country, maybe you should find something
better to do than confirm you're a bit short of reality."
Kelly [rosy belle] Ann Siebecke (316...@gmail.com): "If the lost in
here are not attracted to the truth of the Gospel by how your "group"
presents it, I will wager that it's not because the majority of them
"love lies and eternal damnation" but because what they really hate is
the way your "group" demonstrates anger, wrath and judgement, rather
than the love of Jesus Christ and the wooing of the Holy Spirit. If
anything, you all sabotage the Holy Spirit and *keep* the Spirit from
working in these people's hearts. Think about it - there's a reason why
faith comes by hearing the Word of God - because there is an opportunity
for the listener to HEAR the love of God for them in a voice and vocal
inflection. In here, you don't have that advantage - all you have are
words on a computer screen. If you want people to come to a saving faith
in Jesus Christ, you have to make sure they are *hearing* the Gospel in
the way Jesus presented it. So far, all your "group" has accomplished is
repelling those who might hear away from it."
Patrick [The Chief Instigator] Humphrey (pat...@io.com): "Keep on
posting your whine as the only response...the BI {Breidbart Index for
determining a threshold for auto-cancellation of SPAM} will go up and
you'll get automatically canceled at a few sites. How old are you?"
(ru) dolf: "Well, the Bullshit Index does not apply to these
totalitarian dictators. They are kinda 'elite'. No 'laws' apply to them.
What else is new under the sun?"
Johan Heineken (johan_h...@yahoo.com): "Oh for the nostalgia of a
"Heil Hitler!" homeland, huh, Frau Vera?"
Veralein the Truth Checker (carola...@lycos.com): "I hope you will
help us all building up the Christian newsgroups again."
Patrick [The Chief Instigator] Humphrey (pat...@io.com): "Thanks for
confirming you're too stupid to impersonate a rational human."
Kelly [rosy belle] Ann Siebecke (316...@gmail.com): "Translation: I
hope you will fall in line with those of us who want to make [this] and
a few other groups in our image. We don't want anyone outside of what we
see as the conformist standard in these groups, because we only give lip
service to fulfilling Jesus' Great Commission. After all, it's so much
easier to just pat each other on the back and tell each other how
righteous we all are, rather than having to actually be lifestyle
evangelists and work to bring the unsaved into God's Kingdom. We'd
prefer that everyone here just agree with us and already be mature
Christians. We don't have time for those who are not at or above our
spiritual level - we want everyone to be perfect Christians, just as we
see ourselves as perfect Christians. Baby Christians, those who don't
agree with what we believe, and those who have non-conformist tendencies
need not even thyink about posting here. IOW, we want [this], and a few
other groups to be a museum for saints rather than a hospital for
sinners. It's just so much easier that way! Thanks for joining forces
with us, Johan Heineken!"
Patrick [The Chief Instigator] Humphrey (pat...@io.com): "I didn't know
parrots could post the same brain-damaged rant as you. (When are the
Ozzies arriving to arrest me?)"
dolf
Thommadura <tomm...@optonline.net>wrote:
>
That given recent European questions of Microsoft's propriety towards
Thommadura
>>> references, and without unnecessary verbosity.
>>> I await your evasion with bated breath. You know damn all about
>>> ancient Egypt; unlike you, I do.
OKAY ROger - so You know ALL about ancient egypt - something even
experts who have studied most of their lives have never claimed.
YOu now have your chance
BY all means - tell us where the mummy of the Pharaoh Snefur is
OR show to all what a windbag YOU are.
Thommadura
Oh dear - there is nothing left
Them;s the breaks!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Would say that as "GOD can be anywhere and/or everywhere at anytime."
Bottom line:
GOD is neither limited by nor subject to space-time.
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6d0ad1468eb538ad?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
In the interim, may GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new
spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of
water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust
the truth, Who is Jesus:
dolf
ThomM <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> Your explanation isn't satisfactory
>
> Sure it is
>
> Both Fred and I agree
You said, "There is nothing proven that needs to be refuted - your post
was incoherent babble."
A fictitious person (Fred Thomas) said, "More incoherent babble, the
rest snipped."
A fictitious person (Fred Thomas) said again, "Thats right I said More
incoherent babb[le], and guess what I snipped again! Your good!"
Your explanation isn't satisfactory--I have given my proofs below in
relation to the 7th day of the week and the cosmology's topical year and
its understanding of the cosmogony out of the void and nothing--That the
claims of the Bible made in relation to the existence of God, meta laws
in the multi-verse and religious belief is proven.
That the semiotic basis to the origins of language and religious
mysteries has a cosmological basis in relation to the solar / lunar
equinox cycles.
"And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak thou also unto the
children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is
a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know
that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you." [Exodus 31:12-13]
"It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six
days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested,
and was refreshed. And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of
communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of
stone, written with the finger of God." [Exodus 31:17-18]
DO YOU REFUTE THAT? For the last time, "The evidence has been provided
below. Where was my evidence deficient?"
Each time that you continue to engage in your deception, this post will
be reproduced to convey that the points of proof which you have sought
concerning the existence of God, has been provided to you.
Rumor has it that Christian Bale's blow-up on the set of Batman was all
pretense--the stunt was just over-reaction by his languishing acting.
Thommadura <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:
> tr...@finder.com wrote:
>> Previously when asked why he should have any particular relationship
to the Holy Spirit from anyone.
>>
>> Also why pasting that title unto some bit of his writing should make
him someone to consider apart from others:
>>
>> "The same as it was for the original 12 disciples to receive the
>> Holy
>> Spirit from Christ Jesus. In the Holy Spirit, they knew what GOD
>> wanted and were able to do what GOD wanted."
>>
>> More recently:
>>
>> "It just so happens that this physician's name is in the Bible and is
>> assigned to one of Jesus' disciples :-)"
>>
>> Truth:
>
>
> Still no truth presented again
>
> Truth finder again presents personal religious opinion for which he
cannot and does not provide any supporting proof - to attack the
religious beliefs of another person in the group.
>
> Not unusual - but it is still NOT truth - it is just deluded belief -
not matter what he says.
>
> Calling it truth is a LIE
DO YOU REFUTE THAT? For the last time, "The evidence has been provided
below. Where was my evidence deficient?"
Astronomical and meteorological observations are also a matter of the
Constitution of the Commonwealth as attributes of LEGISLATIVE POWER
associated to GOOD GOVERNANCE which I assert by a technology as:
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html
- http://www.grapple.id.au/biblos.html
To being a reasoned, semiotic and substantive of the natural and common
law basis to my autonomic religious belief. This has of course been
provided to you before. And I wonder why it is that you lack
comprehension of them, as to continue to proffer no apology for your
slander.
DO IDENTIFY YOUR GROUP ASSOCIATIONS SO THAT THEY TOO MAY KNOW WE ARE
TIRED OF YOUR INDULGES.
Say it with me, please... I pledge allegiance... to the God... of
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob... And to the kingdom... for which Christ
stands... all nations... under God... invincible... with liberty and
justice for all.
Fred Thomas <fr...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> "dolf" <dolf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4A809BB4...@hotmail.com...
>> Fred Thomas <fr...@aol.com>,
>>
>> You said, "More incoherent babble, the rest snipped."
>>
> Yea, whatever. More incoherent babble snipped.
Thommadura <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:
> dolf wrote:
>> Fred Thomas <fr...@aol.com> ,
>>
>> That the semiotic basis to the origins of language and religious
>> mysteries has a cosmological basis in relation to the solar / lunar
>> equinox cycles.
>>
>> DO YOU REFUTE THAT?
>
> Sure - that is nonsense
>
> WHen you consider the 28 million different gods so far named and the
hundred of thousands of religions with millions of sect - the origins of
religion can be traced to one thing - HUMANS.
Linda Lee (lindag...@juno.com): "Can't comprehend it? No, of course
not because your warped misunderstanding of the Scriptures denies God
incarnate as the Saviour. So I will answer Christ's question for you,
which is contained in Psalm 110:1 where David {well-beloved; dear}
called his descendant, the son of David, Lord, because he knew he would
be the LORD God incarnate as the Saviour.: "The LORD said through his
Memra that he would give me the lordship, because I had sat for the
instruction of the Law; However, he said to me, 'Return and wait for
Saul {demanded; lent; ditch; death}, who is of the tribe of Benjamin
{son of the right hand}, until he dies; for you are not associated with
a kingdom that is near; and afterwards I will make your enemies a stool
for your feet." [cf: (c) 2004 The Order of Saint Benedict, Aramaic
Targum of Psalms]
Babble on, antichrist."
Guardian Snow (aka phoenix...@yahoo.com.au /
snowp...@eck.net.au): "Behold, I have created the smith who blows
fire in coals, and produces a vessel for its worth. I have also created
the destroyer to destroy; no weapon that is prepared against you,
Jerusalem {vision of peace: hrumachis / chronos}, will prosper, and you
shall declare a sinner every tongue that rises against you in judgment.
This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD-YAHWEH, and their
innocence before me, says the LORD-YAHWEH." [(c) 1990 The Order of Saint
Benedict, Aramaic Targum of Isaiah 54:16-17]
(ru) dolf: "The ability to relate all the biblical text via its STRONGS
Concordance Number to the GRAPPLE Homoiotic Noumenon, raises some
questions over the best psychological approach on how to deal with
'proof-text-Bible' evangelism related to obsessive compulsive behavior
and anti-social conduct as heteronomy associated to autonomic desire and
bi-polar dichotomies.
In considering the notion of using the HEBREW/GREEK/MULTI-LINGUAL Bible
as Autonomic Paradigm for Information Technology's Knowledge Economy.
We have here, from our preliminary investigation, a very high match as
the key entry points into the hierarchy where there is a direct nine
strata neural linguistic correspondence between the BIBLICAL text and
its historical STRONGS associators to the memetic virtual vCUBE."
Guardian Snow (aka phoenix...@yahoo.com.au /
snowp...@eck.net.au): "Thank you for sharing. That was a very
interesting "spiritual counseling" as you call it. I look forward to you
revealing all there is to know about your spirit of counsel that you
provide: "The LORD-YAHWEH will send forth from Zion {monument; raised
up; sepulcher} your mighty scepture, and you will rule in the midst of
your enemies." [Psalm 110:2]
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"For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this
mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that hardening in
part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles as come
it. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: 'The Deliverer
will come out of Zion, and he will turn away ungodliness from Jacob
{that supplants, undermines; the heel}; For this is my covenant with
them, when I take away their sins.' [Isaiah 59:20-21]
Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the
election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. For the gifts and
the calling of God are irrevocable." [Romans 11:25-29]
(ru) dolf: "We have now conclusive proof of our Natural and Common Law
basis to our religious belief to demand a public apology from the State
of Victoria.
Such apology (ie. with respect to there being no prima facie claim to
piety-monogenes from the mistaken religious belief and practice as
monogamous gamogenesis in associating such MARRIAGE as the STATE
instrument of law with fidelity to the autonomic right as espoused by
DIVORCE and matrimonial causes; and in relation thereto, parental
rights, and the custody and guardianship of infants) is to be made on
behalf of the religious, racial and sexual vilification perpetuated by
the British Empire as crimes against the autonomic right under the State
and Commonwealth promulgated by them.
For those of you who wish to exercise your cognitive ability by
enhancing your capacity to associate HEBREW / GREEK to a unitary and
reasoned ternary paradigm of mind, I will shortly update the BIBLOS.HTML
code to accept ?section|chapter:verse lookups."
Fred Thomas wrote:
>
> "dolf" <dolf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4A808EBC...@hotmail.com...
>> Fred Thomas <fr...@aol.com> ,
>>
>> That the semiotic basis to the origins of language and religious
>> mysteries has a cosmological basis in relation to the solar / lunar
>> equinox cycles.
>>
>> DO YOU REFUTE THAT? For the last time, "Where was my evidence
deficient?"
>
> More incoherent babble, the rest snipped.
Fred Thomas <fr...@aol.com> ,
That the semiotic basis to the origins of language and religious
mysteries has a cosmological basis in relation to the solar / lunar
equinox cycles.
DO YOU REFUTE THAT? For the last time, "Where was my evidence deficient?"
Rumor has it that Christian Bale's blow-up on the set of Batman was all
pretense--the stunt was just over-reaction by his languishing acting.
Having provided you with the mathematical and the cosmological basis to
my cosmological proof one can only conclude THAT YOU ARE A DISHONEST,
LYING PIECE OF WORTHLESS FASCIST AMERICAN TRASH.
SHOULD YOU DISRUPT MY STATEMENTS AGAIN AS BEING A WRONGFUL STATEMENT IN
THAT I HAVE NOT GIVEN SUBSTANTIATION OF SUCH RELIGIOUS BELIEF, A HUMAN
RIGHTS AND LEGAL CLAIM WILL BE MADE AGAINST YOU FOR DEFAMATION.
Thommadura <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:
> dolf wrote:
>> We haven't seen Carl McCluskey of late--how is his psychological
trauma going.
>>
>> Rumor has it that Christian Bale's blow-up on the set of Batman was
all pretense--the stunt was just over-reaction by his languishing acting.
>>
>> Fred Thomas has quoted the bible before in support of his view of
slavery.
>
That the semiotic basis to the origins of language and religious
mysteries has a cosmological basis in relation to the solar / lunar
equinox cycles.
DO YOU REFUTE THAT? For the last time, "Where was my evidence deficient?"
> Nonsense again - misquoting peop[l]e
>
That the semiotic basis to the origins of language and religious
mysteries has a cosmological basis in relation to the solar / lunar
equinox cycles.
DO YOU REFUTE THAT? For the last time, "Where was my evidence deficient?"
> Fred Thomas quoted the bible about ITS(The bibles) support of slavery
- and the statements of your supposed god in favor of slavery.
>
That the semiotic basis to the origins of language and religious
mysteries has a cosmological basis in relation to the solar / lunar
equinox cycles.
DO YOU REFUTE THAT? For the last time, "Where was my evidence deficient?"
> That was to prove that your god is not "love"
For the last time, "Where was my evidence deficient?"
The question isn't asking if you lack integrity for the biblical text
says of my proof: "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak thou
also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall
keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations;
that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you." [Exodus
31:12-13 (KJV)]
It fashions the stuff of (ie. gives birth to and nourishes) Emptiness
and Formlessness (of the primordial chaos), giving birth to the
regulations (ie. the circular motion of the sun). Tied to the gods in
Heaven and the spirits on Earth, it fixes the models (mo: numbers or
shu: calculations). It pervades and assimilates past and present,
originating the categories. It unfolds and intersperses yin and yang,
generating the chi'i (as the vitality which informs the entire cosmos
and binds all humans to the rest of phenomena)." [Nylan, Hsuan Li
(Evolution of the Mystery), Canon of Supreme Mystery 1993:429, 64]
A variation of the 22/7 {= 3.1428571...} equation as rational PI
computation and the 364 day cycle from the DATE(1996,3,20) + (5 * 364) +
182 days = Wednesday DATE(2001,9,12) gives the Equinox of Saturday
DATE(2001,9,23) as commencing the Sabbath year and the reprise
associated to the following schema as a transcendent negation of the
Gregorian cycle of 400 years as the basis for replacement theology,
which is as 146097 days evenly divisible by seven:
#0 MOD 22 = 22 [#TAU / #400] as 4000 BCE
#400 MOD 22 = 17 [#PE / #80]
#800 MOD 22 = 12 [#LAMED / #30]
#1200 MOD 22 = 7 [#ZAYIN / #7]
#1600 MOD 22 = 2 [#BETH / #2]
#2000 MOD 22 = 19 [#QOPH / #100]
#2400 MOD 22 = 14 [#NUN / #50]
#2800 MOD 22 = 9 [#TETH / #9]
#3200 MOD 22 = 4 [#DALETH / #4]
#3600 MOD 22 = 21 [#SHIN / #300]
#4000 MOD 22 = 16 [#'AYIN / #70] = #0 CE as HETEROS autonomic
transformative prototype and symbolic associator to series #15, #34,
#65, #111, #175, #260, #369 ... #2000 Y2K
#4400 MOD 22 = 11 [#KAF / #20] = #400 CE
#4800 MOD 22 = 6 [#VAV / #6] = #800 CE
#5200 MOD 22 = 1 [#ALEPH / #1] = #1200 CE
#5600 MOD 22 = 18 [#TSADE / #90] = #1600 CE
#6000 MOD 22 = 13 [#MEM / #40] = #2000 Y2K / Equinox of DATE(1996,3,20)
/ @ (21 March = 1 Nisan) + (5 * 364) + 182 days = Wednesday
DATE(2001,9,12) with Equinox of Saturday DATE(2001,9,23) commencing the
Sabbath year of 'oth cycle has #369 with Septet #41 centric on 13-17
September 2001 / @ 18 September = 1 Tishri 5762.
Telos ('achariyth as 122J3W1D or 6,000 topical years) = Arch (re'shiyth
as 3W1D) + c� [9(9�+1)/2]
#6400 MOD 22 = 8 [#CHET / #8]
#6800 MOD 22 = 3 [#GIMEL / #3]
#7200 MOD 22 = 20 [#RESH / #200]
#7600 MOD 22 = 15 [#SAMEK / #60]
#8000 MOD 22 = 10 [#YOD / #10]
#8400 MOD 22 = 5 [#HE / #5]
#8800 MOD 22 = 22 [#TAU / #400] as 8800 CE
"I have been following the creationist/Intelligent Design attempts for
over twenty years, wanting for them to come up with a plausible
description of how the natural world came into order. Sadly they have
only given false hope to hundreds of thousands by ignoring or, sadly,
distorting the work of thousands of scientists as if there was a massive
conspiracy on their part. Ignorance is forgivable, but willful ignorance
is shameful. How Brendan Nelson [as Minister for Education] can give
such a flacid response to the question of Intelligent Design being
taught in schools is difficult to fathom. By leaving it up to misled
parents to decide what is taught in science classes opens the way for a
range of unfounded assertions to be taught. There is plenty of scope to
teach a range of creation scenarios, but not as a science subject.
The church trying to conform to the Enlightenment, com[es] off second
best. A spiritual understanding of our place in the universe is crippled
by focusing on the material." [Zytheran (Nigel Dobson-Keeffe),
"Intelligent design - damaging good science and good theology", 2049 hrs
12 September 2005]
The Chinese Mystery in grand fashion comprising Heaven's Origin, finds a
norm in the constant sequence of the sun and moon, and in the order of
male and female and makes them the canonical model for all
eternity--Their revolutions with regard to the Seven Regulators (sun,
moon and 5 visible planets) [Deuteronomy 4:15-20] associated to zodiac
and astrological examinations for patterns of the Dragon and Tiger
(eastern and western quadrant constellations) and contemplation of the
lines of the Bird and Turtle (southern and northern quadrant
constellations). Has its instigation within a 60 year cycle as CHIA TZU
year as established on the 1st day of the new moon commencing with
midnight on the winter solstice of 104 BCE: 'Looking up to contemplate
the starry images, looking down to view earthly conditions, the sage
examines human nature and comes to know the Decree. He seeks the origin
of beginnings and sees the final outcome.' [Hsuan Li (Evolution of the
Mystery)]
Their concern as men of their time was the ultimate issue in
understanding change: how does all this infinite diversity of natural
mutation in Nature, society, and the human psyche arise from the Way,
which rests in Mystery and does not change at all? What obscure paths do
the Tao's "spiritual forces" (shen) travel to keep the cycles turning?
The Han experts were reexamining the symbolic notation of the 'I-Ching'
to find regularities. They were not merely trying to narrow down the
objective significance, even what they believed to be the objective
moral significance, of the symbols. Their goal was a universal nexus of
association and correlation, extending the meanings of traditional
symbols to create an infinitely rich language they could use to relate
everything that people observe, think, feel, contemplate, and imagine.
What they valued in this vocabulary was scope, not rigorous definition.
They did not see themselves as widening the ambit of the Changes, but as
coming to grips with the universality that the Sages had given it. Their
demonstration that endless wisdom was stored in the symbols of the
Changes confirmed its status in the canon whose transmission was
sponsored by, and in turn lent legitimacy to, the dynastic house of Han.
[Michael Nylan, Nathan Sivin, 1987 Essay on Canon of Supreme Mystery]
DIE OFF YOU BASTARD!
Thommadura <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:
> dolf wrote:
>> For the third and final time, "Where was my evidence deficient?"
>
>
> It was not PROOF = period.
>
> The statement at hand was
>
> "There are NO supernatural gods PROVEN to exist."
>
> Evidence - no matter how MUCH you present IS NOT PROOF.
>
> SO - you completely failed to address the statement
>
> IE - you did not PROVE a supernatural god exists.
>
Thommadura <tomm...@optonline.net>wrote:
>
>>> HAHAHAHA <etc>
>
>
> Ah - snipped the statement again - Roger
>
> So - you know ALL about ancient Egypt - but you failed to indicate that
> you ever were there. Still - it is a unique claim - since the experts on
> ancient egypt don't know ALL - as you claim.
>
> How about telling us where the mummy of Snefru is buried!
>
> How about quoting the text of the Hymn to Osiris from the TEmple Philae-
> which as you say you know - was found inscribed on the walls of the
temple
>
> or the Hymn to Osiris -Sokar - also inscribed on the walls of that temple
>
>
>
>>>> references, and without unnecessary verbosity.
>>>> I await your evasion with bated breath. You know damn all about
>>>> ancient Egypt; unlike you, I do.
>
> Still another UNEVIDENCED claim that is not only dismissed - it is a
belly laugh for being so much nonsense.
>
That given recent European questions of Microsoft's propriety towards
dolf
ThomM <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:
To being a reasoned, semiotic and substantive of the natural and common
a kingdom that is near; and afterwards I will make your enemies a stool
Babble on, antichrist."
Fred Thomas <fr...@aol.com> ,
DIE OFF YOU BASTARD!
These rabid fascist Irish Catholic dogs need to show a greater respect
Thommadura <tomm...@optonline.net>wrote:
>
>>> HAHAHAHA <etc>
>
>
> Ah - snipped the statement again - Roger
>
> So - you know ALL about ancient Egypt - but you failed to indicate that
> you ever were there. Still - it is a unique claim - since the experts on
> ancient egypt don't know ALL - as you claim.
>
> How about telling us where the mummy of Snefru is buried!
>
> How about quoting the text of the Hymn to Osiris from the TEmple Philae-
> which as you say you know - was found inscribed on the walls of the
temple
>
> or the Hymn to Osiris -Sokar - also inscribed on the walls of that temple
>
>
>
That given recent European questions of Microsoft's propriety towards
monkfish
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Roger Pearse wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> > Roger Pearse wrote:
>> >> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >> With all due respect, can you, Roger, publicly say "Jesus is
>> >> > >> LORD" using your mouth?
>> >> >
>> >> > >Well, if you like. Jesus is certainly Lord and I believe that God
>> >> > >raised him from the dead. (Rom. 10:9)
>> >> >
>> >> > Then please kindly allow this physician to hear you say "Jesus is
>> >> > LORD" via voicemail at the number listed at the bottom of the
>> >> > following web site:
>> >>
>> >> No.
>> >
>> > Sad to note that you are not able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>> > using your mouth.
>>
>> Can you publicly say "God is everywhere"?
>
> Would say that as "GOD can be anywhere and/or everywhere at anytime."
>
> Bottom line:
>
> GOD is neither limited by nor subject to space-time.
Can you publicly say "God transcends time and space"?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Would simply say that as "GOD is the Author of all reality."
Michael Christ
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Tremendous!
Well said again Mootboy.
Michael Christ
monkfish
Including all the evils?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be28905910576997?
May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:b9e6725b-02c6-43a8...@g10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Andrew B. Chung is not Lord.
This physician did not write that he were LORD.
::: Jesus is LORD :::
HPHgm.11318$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au
> Andrew B. Chung is not Lord.
Correct. And you are not Christ.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2 Peter 2:22
Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a9d6705b651c9d33?
There is joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
In the interim, may GOD give you, Vera, a new heart and a new spirit
(Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water
and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Michael Christ
imperfection.
Andrew B. Chung is not Lord.
Bottom Line: Jesus is Lord, the lot is cast into the lap, but the whole
disposing thereof is of the Lord, and not Andy's.
Revelation for Andrew B. Chung:
Andy B. Chung even has no authority over or have any right to demand
anything of his wife (so called) because he does not love her with
unconditional love, and therefore is not married in the Spirit. Therefore
is an adulterer.
Michael Christ
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:0c1bbdf1-e497-4669...@h31g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
Michael Christ
" ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <vera...@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:7eh4p3F...@mid.individual.net...
> Michael Christ Jesus...@Father.com wrote in
> HPHgm.11318$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au
>> Andrew B. Chung is not Lord.
Vera wrote:
> Correct. And you are not Christ.
Thank you my lovely.
May I ask, have you the Lord's Spirit that I may drink and feast?
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Jesus is Lord.
Michael Christ
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:f0b0fb0f-74b3-4f2d...@j21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Thommadura
Since no "lord" is proven to exist - why ask such a stupid question?
Only a child would to that!
Michael Christ
"Thommadura" <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:4a83f458$0$10302$607e...@cv.net...
You are so wise Moot man.
Well done.
Nothing more needs to be said.
See you on the big day, big boy.
Michael Christ
::: Jesus is LORD :::
> " ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <vera...@lycos.com> wrote in message
> news:7eh4p3F...@mid.individual.net...
>> Michael Christ Jesus...@Father.com wrote in
>> HPHgm.11318$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au
>>> Andrew B. Chung is not Lord.
>
> Vera wrote:
>> Correct. And you are not Christ.
>
> Thank you my lovely.
You are welcome on that.
> May I ask, have you the Lord's Spirit that I may drink and feast?
All Christians have the Lord's Spirit.
> Michael Christ
--
___________________________________________________
http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de
http://the-beauty-of-the-psalms.blogspot.com
http://jesus-christ-is-my-lord-and-my-god.blogspot.com
http://bible-prophecy-and-revelation.blogspot.com/
ThomM
> Andrew B. Chung has no authority to pronounce judgment over others in his
> imperfection.
>
> Andrew B. Chung is not Lord.
>
> Bottom Line: Jesus is Lord, the lot is cast into the lap, but the whole
> disposing thereof is of the Lord, and not Andy's.
>
> Revelation for Andrew B. Chung:
>
> Andy B. Chung even has no authority over or have any right to demand
> anything of his wife (so called) because he does not love her with
> unconditional love, and therefore is not married in the Spirit. Therefore
> is an adulterer.
>
> Michael Christ
Nonsense
I the christ is not a lord - nor is he a god
John 5:31
If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
John 1:18
No man has seen god.
Since john had seen the christ- according to the story - the christ
cannot be god.
ThomM
> "Thommadura" <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>
> news:4a83f458$0$10302$607e...@cv.net...
>
>
>
> > Michael Christ wrote:
>
> >>news:7eh4p3F...@mid.individual.net...
> >>> Michael Christ JesusisL...@Father.com wrote in
> >>> HPHgm.11318$ze1.9...@news-server.bigpond.net.au
> >>>> Andrew B. Chung is not Lord.
>
> >> Vera wrote:
> >>> Correct. And you are not Christ.
>
> >> Thank you my lovely.
>
> >> May I ask, have you the Lord's Spirit that I may drink and feast?
>
> > Since no "lord" is proven to exist - why ask such a stupid question?
>
> > Only a child would to that!
>
> You are so wise Moot man.
>
> Well done.
>
> Nothing more needs to be said.
>
> See you on the big day, big boy.
My father never posted about his upcoming twin great-grandchildren -
and YOU are not invited to the celebration
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2 Peter 2:22
Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a9d6705b651c9d33?
There is joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
In the interim, may GOD give you, Vera, a new heart and a new spirit
(Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water
and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Thommadura
> Michael Christ Jesus...@Father.com wrote in
> KuOgm.11415$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au
>> " ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <vera...@lycos.com> wrote in message
>> news:7eh4p3F...@mid.individual.net...
>>> Michael Christ Jesus...@Father.com wrote in
>>> HPHgm.11318$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au
>>>> Andrew B. Chung is not Lord.
>> Vera wrote:
>>> Correct. And you are not Christ.
>> Thank you my lovely.
>
> You are welcome on that.
>
>> May I ask, have you the Lord's Spirit that I may drink and feast?
>
> All Christians have the Lord's Spirit.
Nonsense - that is unevidenced belief without proof.
Michael Christ
Play time is over.
Michael Christ
"ThomM" <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Michael Christ
>May I ask, have you the Lord's Spirit that I may drink and feast?
Vera wrote:
> All Christians have the Lord's Spirit.
Then I am ready to eat. Give it to me honey.
I hope you are not leading me on.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
To: Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD...
TROLL OFF!!!
Michael Christ
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be28905910576997?
May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.
Amen.