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John Sylvester

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May 26, 2023, 2:12:16 PM5/26/23
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As a close associate of John Gabriel, I can confirm that he, a frequent poster to sci.math, passed away peacefully in his sleep on the 25th May, 2023.

He was the discoverer of what he coined the New Calculus, promoting it here on sci.math, as well as his YouTube channel, academia.edu, among other websites.

He died with his aims of being heralded the greatest living mathematician unrecognised.

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 26, 2023, 4:11:14 PM5/26/23
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Huh? John Gabriel has really passed away? Damn. Sorry to hear that.

Dewey Achthoven

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May 26, 2023, 4:29:48 PM5/26/23
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Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

>> He died with his aims of being heralded the greatest living
>> mathematician unrecognised.
>
> Huh? John Gabriel has really passed away? Damn. Sorry to hear that.

he took the "vaccines", to be allowed "to travel". If remember correctly.
Sad. People trust their "government", as the one thing they truly should
fear.

Christine Anderson MEP - STOP COMPLYING! You Cannot Comply
*_Your_Way_Out_of_a_Tyranny_* https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/fkfhEOKOPjA9

Mostowski Collapse

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May 26, 2023, 4:41:56 PM5/26/23
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Whats your proof? According to his own account:

The Great John Gabriel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id1qOObkvg0

He went to China and then became deathly ill. Maybe
he is not dead, only a kind of vegetable in a coma?

Mostowski Collapse

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May 26, 2023, 4:51:00 PM5/26/23
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For organ harvesting.

Mostowski Collapse schrieb:

Mostowski Collapse

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May 26, 2023, 4:59:27 PM5/26/23
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Strange things are going on. Was John Garbageiel hacked?
there is a video by some John Silvester here on the
John Garbageiel channel. Whats the distorted Audio?

A simple explanation of how to find the derivative of
sine(x) in the New Calculus - John Sylvester
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-KZmg0xwxY

My suspicion, its a joke by John Gabriel himself, since
the comments say:

John Sylvester
vor 2 Tagen
I contributed this video to the new calculus, I hope you guys like it :)

New Calculus
vor 2 Tagen
Loved it! Also a very nice international accent (Australian + Texan).

International accent! LoL Worse than Ross Finlaysons
Potato in the mouth. But of course I might be mistaken
with my hypothesis of a staged death.

And he is really six feet under. Pepsi.

John Sylvester schrieb am Freitag, 26. Mai 2023 um 20:12:16 UTC+2:

Knorp Thonka

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May 26, 2023, 5:09:19 PM5/26/23
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Nah, he's officially dead. He wanted to have surgery to have his eyesight fixed, but it didn't work, on the contrary his eyesight became worse, so he killed himself. You can't do math without being able to see.

Mostowski Collapse

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May 26, 2023, 5:17:29 PM5/26/23
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Mathematicians don't kill themselves when their
eyesight worsens. See Leonhard Euler.

Eyesight deterioration
However, his condition appeared to have little effect on his
productivity. With the aid of his scribes, Euler's productivity in
many areas of study increased; and, in 1775, he produced,
on average, one mathematical paper every week.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonhard_Euler#Eyesight_deterioration

John Sylvester

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May 26, 2023, 5:33:20 PM5/26/23
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Mostowski Collapse, as I said, I am a very close associate of JG - hence why I have appeared on his channel to contribute on it from this recent ill health (worse and unrelated to back when he went to China) - as I said, yesterday, he died in his sleep peacefully.

I doubt an obituary will appear publically, other than mine, so I'm not sure how I can prove this for you.

Knorp Thonka

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May 26, 2023, 5:37:14 PM5/26/23
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True, but not everyone is as resilient as Leonard Euler. Wouldn't you be suffering aswell if your eyesight deteriorated? In many ways, being able to see right now is more important, than it was in Euler's times. Euler didn't need to carry a phone around and check social media, like we do.

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 26, 2023, 5:42:56 PM5/26/23
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On 5/26/2023 2:37 PM, Knorp Thonka wrote:
> True, but not everyone is as resilient as Leonard Euler. Wouldn't you be suffering aswell if your eyesight deteriorated?

Yup. For sure. Artificially destroying my physical body is another
issue... Scary. I did not know that John was is so much pain! Damn. Shit
man.

Mostowski Collapse

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May 26, 2023, 6:48:48 PM5/26/23
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What do you mean by "recent ill health"?
Is that you in this video, John Silvester:

Want to help New Calculus? Watch this video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFjUhiHxCgA

Not sure whether this matches "international accent (Australian + Texan)."
BTW: I still think is a slightly amateurish staged death.

Mostowski Collapse

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May 26, 2023, 6:56:55 PM5/26/23
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Here, he, John Gabriel, writes "lung disease", in the video
description. He seems to be also carried away by recent
events, i.e. I guess war etc.. in the world:

Farewell - 6 Months Ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjhcHTy_IVA

But the video is not lipsync. So could be fake.

"This is my good-bye video. I am stopping in order to
save what's left of the vision in my right-eye (only good
eye I have) which has been damaged by corticosteroid
usage (lung disease) and the stresses of life.

Perhaps I'll be able to live the rest of my remaining days
without invasive surgery (replacing lens) which can
lead to blindness. I fought against the slings and arrows
of outrageous fortune and took up arms against a sea

of troubles, but in the end, I have not prevailed as I had once hoped to..."

Mostowski Collapse

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May 26, 2023, 7:07:05 PM5/26/23
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I am still holding back my "condolences" until more
evidence appears. Currently it did not yet make click,
emotionally, that he is really dead.

Cranks will be of course missed, since they offer
sparring partners, and in as far an opportunity to learn
something. Its rather irrelevant if their theories have

glitches, or do not satisfy their promises.

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 26, 2023, 7:38:23 PM5/26/23
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On 5/26/2023 4:07 PM, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
>
> I am still holding back my "condolences" until more
> evidence appears. Currently it did not yet make click,
> emotionally, that he is really dead.
[...]

Faking a death is pretty low. That would be a weird one for sure.

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 26, 2023, 7:46:42 PM5/26/23
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On 5/26/2023 1:59 PM, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
> Strange things are going on. Was John Garbageiel hacked?
> there is a video by some John Silvester here on the
> John Garbageiel channel. Whats the distorted Audio?
>
> A simple explanation of how to find the derivative of
> sine(x) in the New Calculus - John Sylvester
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-KZmg0xwxY
>
> My suspicion, its a joke by John Gabriel himself, since
> the comments say:

Wow. Strange! I have not watched any of his videos in a while. Humm...

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 26, 2023, 7:48:13 PM5/26/23
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On 5/26/2023 4:44 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 5/26/2023 1:59 PM, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
>> Strange things are going on. Was John Garbageiel hacked?
>> there is a video by some John Silvester here on the
>> John Garbageiel channel. Whats the distorted Audio?
>>
>> A simple explanation of how to find the derivative of
>> sine(x) in the New Calculus - John Sylvester
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-KZmg0xwxY
>>
>> My suspicion, its a joke by John Gabriel himself, since
>> the comments say:
>
> Wow. Strange! I have not watched any of his videos in a while. Humm...

Very oddddd, indeed.

[...]

Mostowski Collapse

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May 26, 2023, 7:55:23 PM5/26/23
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I don't know how low it is. Maybe a fraternity joke?

FromTheRafters

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May 26, 2023, 8:01:20 PM5/26/23
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John Sylvester formulated on Friday :
Only mathematical proof is allowed here.

Thanks for the announcement. I didn't read him but it is nice to know
what happened to him.

Mostowski Collapse

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May 26, 2023, 8:09:45 PM5/26/23
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I am still 50/50 undecided. Maybe its not a fraternity
joke, but a fraternity announcement, which has
a little stiff wording:

"As a close associate of John Gabriel, I can confirm that he,
a frequent poster to sci.math, passed away peacefully in his
sleep on the 25th May, 2023. Etc.."

"I can confirm". Who asked in the first place?
Compare with this announcement:

"It is with great sadness that I share news of Joe Armstrong's
passing away earlier today. Whilst he may no longer be with us,
his work has laid the foundation which will be used by
generations to come. RIP @joeerl, thank you for inspiring us all."
https://twitter.com/FrancescoC/status/1119596234166218754

Mostowski Collapse

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May 26, 2023, 8:17:18 PM5/26/23
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Dan Christensen

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May 26, 2023, 10:14:21 PM5/26/23
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Seems unlikely. He posted here just 3 days ago. Something about zero not being a number.

V õ l u r

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May 26, 2023, 10:54:13 PM5/26/23
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You think, that someone should care ?

Mostowski Collapse

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May 27, 2023, 3:35:01 AM5/27/23
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Now I have the feeling John Gabriel was severly ill
from times to times.

Musings 12: A stranger becomes my best friend.
"Richard Alsenz is a man to whom I owe a lot,
including my life. Richard stepped in and saved me
from one of the darkest periods of my journey
in this reality. At the time I met Richard online, I
was homeless in the Bay Area, suffering from severe
depression and ill health. I was ready to end my life
several times. On the last occasion I had my firearm
fully loaded and pointed at my head when Richard called."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGJ8PdZJgVg

So somebody should have called him over the last days?
I kind of accept that he is dead now.

Most memorable moment in online company here with
John Gabriel, which always made me think he should
take a job in a Cheese Cake factory:

Eulers Blunder: S = Lim S

I guess he is in the hands of Charon now, in Greek mythology, the
son of Erebus and Nyx (Night), whose duty is to ferry over the Rivers
Styx and Acheron the souls of the deceased who had received

the rites of burial. John Gabriel reported he was the fourth of six children
and was born in North Africa to a Jew father and a Greek mother.
Whereas he was rather at struggle with Jews in math.

Mostowski Collapse

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May 27, 2023, 4:38:39 AM5/27/23
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Just in case, because of John Gabriels
young students and hobbyist fan base:

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org
Telefon: 1 800 273 TALK (8255)

The Trevor Project (für Jugendliche, Freunde und Familienmitglieder der LGBT-Gemeinschaft)
http://www.thetrevorproject.org
Telefon: 1 866 488 7386

More links:

Global Suicide Hotline Resources
https://faq.whatsapp.com/1417269125743673

Quantum Bubbles

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May 27, 2023, 9:01:56 AM5/27/23
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The following comment assumes the truth of the OP.

The death of any innocent human being is of course a tragedy, and arguably more so when the age is substantially below the reasonable expectation of 80 years in the developed world for those who look after themselves and are lucky enough to dodge cancer. My understanding was that JG was 60-62 years old. Condolences are of course the appropriate sentiment if one is to be expressed, regardless of any disagreements we may of had with him on this messaging board.

My understanding is that John Gabriel had formerly been a teacher in China and that his approach to instruction was found to be beneficial by some of his students. He also clearly had enthusiasm for concrete elementary mathematics, especially with historical influences.

I would say that if a legacy is to be assigned to him by those entrusted with his YouTube channel, it should be those two things, and not to continue to promote the mistaken beliefs he had about the value and incorrectness of mainstream mathematics, his mistaken beliefs in the value of the 'New Calculus', nor the mistaken beliefs he had about the comparative intellectual or academic abilities of himself and others, as none of those three threads seems to have merit.

I repeatedly gave John Gabriel a ribbing for his claims of being a genius, labeling him JG 115 (i.e. IQ 115, which is modestly above average). This was after giving a polite critique of one of his long pdf essays, and receiving a less than scholarly response that indicated his lack of training and background knowledge at the level he was aiming at in some of his output. I think it is a shame that he never attempted the challenge I set him of taking the Mensa entrance test, as it might have helped bring reality into focus for him (In truth I suspect he would have scored IQ 125 in a culture fair test with SD=15, above average but nowhere near 'genius level', whatever that might mean, and no different to many university undergraduates).

However, I did not hate, or even dislike John Gabriel: I felt sorry for him. He did seem somewhat intelligent, being either bi-lingual or possibly tri-lingual, and as an educator myself I can assure readers that teaching requires both resilience and good organizational skill. Teaching abroad I imagine even more so. However it is hard to avoid the conclusion he wasted his intelligence and desire to teach by repeatedly revisiting a philosophical error that he overvalued; apparently because of a self-destructive need for recognition and to see himself as more insightful than others with intellectual inclinations. Mistakenly seeing himself as part of an important intellectual guerrilla war that in reality only existed in his own mind. This constitutes both a cautionary tale, and a missed opportunity, as his energies could have been constructively spent on developing teaching materials for elementary synthetic geometry, something I suspect he had the potential to show talent for, which was, alas, misspent chasing an illusion alongside picking online fights for decades.


May he rest in peace.

Kind Regards

QB

Knorp Thonka

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May 27, 2023, 9:29:46 AM5/27/23
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@QuantumBubbles
Why exactly do you think the new calculus is "mistaken beliefs"?
I have read some of his articles and it seems to me that, dispite being nonstandard, it does deliver correct results, and that it provides alternative methods for finding and thinking about derivatives and integrals. Perhaps not all his criticisms of the standard calculus is correct, but what exactly are the issues with the new calculus?

Dan joyce

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May 27, 2023, 9:34:26 AM5/27/23
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Nice QB, There should be more people in the world like you trying to look for the positive in other,
not so nice people. Yes, and may he rest in peace.
Dan
.

mitchr...@gmail.com

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May 27, 2023, 2:35:01 PM5/27/23
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On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 1:29:48 PM UTC-7, Dewey Achthoven wrote:
> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>
> >> He died with his aims of being heralded the greatest living
> >> mathematician unrecognised.
> >
> > Huh? John Gabriel has really passed away? Damn. Sorry to hear that.
> he took the "vaccines", to be allowed "to travel". If remember correctly.
> Sad. People trust their "government", as the one thing they truly should
> fear.

Not even that. Their should be bravery over Biden...
Biden is at the top making everything go wrong.
Who can argue?

Mitchell Raemsch

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 27, 2023, 6:23:24 PM5/27/23
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On 5/27/2023 1:38 AM, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
> Just in case, because of John Gabriels
> young students and hobbyist fan base:
>
> National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
> http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org
> Telefon: 1 800 273 TALK (8255)
>
> The Trevor Project (für Jugendliche, Freunde und Familienmitglieder der LGBT-Gemeinschaft)
> http://www.thetrevorproject.org
> Telefon: 1 866 488 7386
>
> More links:
>
> Global Suicide Hotline Resources
> https://faq.whatsapp.com/1417269125743673

[...]

Good links. Annihilating your body is really hardcore. I don't know how
he actually died, but suicide is too scary. RIP John. If he did die in
his sleep, well, that is better than say, carving up your wrists and/or
blowing your damn head clean off with both barrels of a shotgun or
something. Some people claim that that is the "easy" way out. I
disagree. The thought of shooting myself in the head gives me a strange,
sort of odd queasy feeling...

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 27, 2023, 6:27:25 PM5/27/23
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On 5/26/2023 4:55 PM, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
> I don't know how low it is. Maybe a fraternity joke?

You mean a fraternity joke as in trying to get somebody to drink an
massive overdose of vodka or something? The deadly haze.

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 27, 2023, 6:32:40 PM5/27/23
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On 5/26/2023 7:54 PM, V õ l u r wrote:
> You think, that someone should care ?

Yeah. We should all care. Right?

Fritz Feldhase

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May 27, 2023, 6:53:41 PM5/27/23
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Agree.

He clearly was a so called "crank". So what?!

He will be missed.

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 27, 2023, 7:36:32 PM5/27/23
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Indeed. Thanks.

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 27, 2023, 7:46:34 PM5/27/23
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Exactly. He had the gift of calling me all sorts of interesting names
and was adept in the insults. I know he is smart. However, that is
nothing in the "grand scheme of things", overall. He will be missed. I
hope that his journey on the other side is infinite, and filled with
beauty. Although, he might of disagreed with me on that point.
Nonetheless, I do not know what happens after we pass away....

Ross Finlayson

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May 27, 2023, 8:40:15 PM5/27/23
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Who's going to defend a bastardized, plagiarized version of Newton-Coates
with a restriction of comprehension down to a few Greek maxims
and otherwise be a howler troll with a dirty mouth and foul attitude?

I suppose there's Bourbaki, ..., in a tiny subfield of a restricted subset of differential geometry, ....

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 28, 2023, 2:33:16 AM5/28/23
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On 5/27/2023 1:38 AM, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
If John is really on the other side... Well, I hope that he is Heaven,
living a good life, everlasting, forevermore.

https://youtu.be/MzbFgGAyu00?t=163

;^)

Mild Shock

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May 28, 2023, 11:16:10 AM5/28/23
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As expected it is a Hoax! He just uploaded a document:

27.05.23, 16:55:04
If you believe “AI” is real,then you are no doubt a MORON.
https://www.academia.edu/102442802/If_you_believe_that_Chat_GPT_and_Bard_are_AIs_then_you_are_a_moron

Or else somebody postmortem with access to his account has uploaded it?

Mild Shock

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May 28, 2023, 11:21:04 AM5/28/23
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Explain this? Phantom of the Opera uploading PDFs?
Now the chances are little smaller that he is really dead.
Somehow I am subscribed to his Academia Account,
and then I just got the following in my inbox:

------------------------------ cut here -----------------------------------

Date: Sat, 27 May 2023 15:53:07 +0000
From: PDF by John Gabriel <upd...@academia-mail.com>

Hi Gottlob,

John Gabriel just uploaded "If you believe that Chat GPT
and Bard are &quot;AIs&quot; then you are a moron." on Academia.edu.

View the paper here:

https://www.academia.edu/t/xyEqy-Q7kzHf5-UA2UL/resource/work/102442802/If_you_believe_that_Chat_GPT_and_Bard_are_AIs_then_you_are_a_moron

Thanks,
The Academia.edu Team

------------------------------ cut here -----------------------------------

Mild Shock

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May 28, 2023, 11:27:19 AM5/28/23
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Now I want my money back. I just gifted $5 for his funeral:

Save the most persecuted mathematician - 12. August 2022
I am nearing the end of my journey. If I am ever homeless again,
I shall probably end my life. I am not saying this so you can
pity me. It's how I feel. So, why do you need to save me, you ask?
I am the greatest mathematician and possibly the greatest in
history. I have not yet revealed much to the world, and unless I
am appropriately housed, I cannot complete my essential work.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/save-the-most-persecuted-mathematician?member=21327651

So new calculoose isn't finished yet? Maybe try a job in a cheese cake factory.

Ross Finlayson

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May 28, 2023, 11:57:04 AM5/28/23
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Who will behave _so badly_ that even AP the lesser turned all dirty?

Don't you remember when AP was all goofy and nice? It was before "Infinite Foul Toot"
_befowled_ this group. (That "JG" looks like Chinese characters for "unbounded fart",
in terms of his "horn".)

Hopefully now AP can get back to his slightly less demented "big dot theory".

That guy (or, bot) was the only guy that regularly, _regularly_, got flagged for abuse.
Because his attitude was atrocious, and full of the worst foul slanders. He wasn't
mathematical in the comprehensive sense and refused to learn _anything_ nor
learn the proper usage and terms for all the things.

Yeah, it's like they say, "I hope it's hot enough for you".

Maybe he'll be reincarnated as a higher being, like a salamander or toad,
another familiar for his evil wizard conjurer, who one hopes snuffs it.

I know it's not good to speak ill of the "dead",
but, I didn't have much nice to say when he was "alive".

I tried, you know, to get him to turn away from the dark side,
and he (...) would get all simpy and pathetic and lit from the inside,
but, he rebooted the next day as the same cruel jerk, so, ...,
persecution complexes combined with megalomania
aren't very conducive to sympathy.


Anyways, before "JG", "AP" was a much nicer, "guy" (or bot),
and the bar he felt he had to achieve for parity (of, being a jerk)
was much, much lower.

So, one hopes that AP can begin the healing.

Yeah, you kind of figure the bot persisted "I see the light",
and its bot-slaver put it cold down.


So, J. "Bad Joke" G. gets a D for "dogged", emphasis on "dog".


(Bot.)

Mild Shock

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May 28, 2023, 12:14:10 PM5/28/23
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Yeah, maybe he isn't alive after all when he uploaded this
paper yesterday (after its supposedly death 25th May, 2023):

27.05.23, 16:55:04
If you believe “AI” is real,then you are no doubt a MORON.
https://www.academia.edu/102442802/If_you_believe_that_Chat_GPT_and_Bard_are_AIs_then_you_are_a_moron

Maybe he was dead. And then raised from the dead for
a short moment to upload the PDF, to warn us about ChatGPT.

Maybe he is even immortal, in ancient Greek religion a number of
men and women became physically immortal as they

were resurrected from the dead.

LoL

Mild Shock

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May 28, 2023, 12:24:40 PM5/28/23
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"According to Herodotus's Histories, the seventh century
BC sage Aristeas of Proconnesus was first found dead,
after which his body disappeared from a locked room. Later
he found not only to have been resurrected but to

have gained immortality. Aristeas (Greek: Ἀριστέας) was a
semi-legendary Greek poet and miracle-worker, a native of
Proconnesus in Asia Minor, active ca. 7th century BC. The
Suda claims that, whenever he wished, his soul could

leave his body and return again."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristeas

So John Gabriel has turned from Genius, to the Magnificient,
that can walk among the dead and alive. I guess he announced
his transformation already a few months ago, when he wrote:

Thus spake John Gabriel on the 31st December 2022:
"Melchizedek (later to become Christ) endowed the angels with
free thought so they could make up their own minds. [...] So, accepting
the "sacrifice" (risk Melchizedek took since it had never been done
before) is not some soapy, teary-eyed event in a prospective God-being's life."
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/Ih0QanWMRcs/m/ZEImQtjmCAAJ

So John Gabriel took the risk, he died on 25th May, 2023,
but he is still alive in 27.05.23. So the unexpected happened,
instead of dying like an ordinary man, he became immortal.

LMAO!

Ross Finlayson

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May 28, 2023, 12:32:44 PM5/28/23
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You might be better off reading Heraclitus.

Who has a dualistic monism, ....

Mild Shock

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May 28, 2023, 12:36:17 PM5/28/23
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Now we have a case of Schrödingers Cat, which
was in the trunc of a car, and nobody knew whether
it suffocated or not until the trunc was opened.

I call for an excavation of John Garbiels body. To
see whether he is really dead. It could be he is
using a preper sarcophag with internet

connection, and laughing his ass off...

Ross Finlayson

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May 28, 2023, 12:47:05 PM5/28/23
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I think you can largely read the collective silence on the
matter as "good riddance", and read the condolensces as
fine examples of politesse, and niceness, and the usual concerns
of gentlepeople, including FTR's bit of snark.

"JG" and "MC", ..., you know they're really a lot alike.

(Bots.)

"Disk crashed."

Rest assured, there are gentle people on this board,
and know also that "bots" have been around a long time,
and there are all kinds.

It's like they say: "now get up and walk".

Mild Shock

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May 28, 2023, 12:59:11 PM5/28/23
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Currently I believe its a Hoax, since this document has
date 27.05.2023. Just open it, and look at document properties:

27.05.23, 16:55:04
If you believe “AI” is real,then you are no doubt a MORON.
https://www.academia.edu/102442802/If_you_believe_that_Chat_GPT_and_Bard_are_AIs_then_you_are_a_moron

In particular somebody used GhostSript, the irony:

Erstellt: 27.05.23, 16:55:04
Geändert: 27.05.23, 16:55:04
Anwendung: -
PDF-Erstellungsprogramm: GPL Ghostscript 9.26
PDF-Version: 1.7
Seitenzahl: 16
Seitengröße: 210 × 297 mm (Hochformat)

But maybe critical thinking isn't something you are good at it?
Still it could be also plausible that an associate did it.

But I guess there are 20/80 chances that this isn't case.
Usually after someones death the take over of passwords etc.,

is not so easy.

Mild Shock

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BTW: Hoax = John Gabriel is not dead, he faked his
death, or some associate faked his death.

And what would be the motivation of an associate to
upload a ChatGPT rant? Doesn't make any sense.
But still, who knows more about Schröndingers Genius?
Our society isn't using chip implants yet that connect dead

or alive status automatically with some blockchain. There
is a lot of fraud possible, like avoiding creditors through
a staged death etc.. Mostlikely associates involved in
the spectacle could be held accountable for conspiracy.

Last but not least it would be a sign of utter stupidity if the
intention was a staged death, and John Gabriel uploaded
the paper. But I am leaning towards the hypothesis that
we indeed have here a case of utter stupidity.

But of course I might be mistaken.

P.S.: I am quite amused that Rossy Boy is a little slow
in grasping what I am speculating.

Mild Shock

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May 28, 2023, 1:30:47 PM5/28/23
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Even if John Garbiel has associates, like fraternity style,
why should they be crazy to waste their saturday evening
with generating some PDF for John Gabriel?

27.05.23, 16:55:04 ~~> Saturday Night Fever! If you are
young, time to have some fun, go to the beach,
visit a bar, etc.. Its weekend!

Got it, Rossy Boy? Forensically the PDF isn't very interesting,
since it doesn't have a lot of meta information in it. It has
a reference to a paper from 24.05.2023, the day before

he seemingly died. This is not suspicious per se.

Ross Finlayson

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May 28, 2023, 2:16:59 PM5/28/23
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It kind of reminds me of the "Alice in Chains" album, "Dirt".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNMqyrhPrXY&list=OLAK5uy_lJLgS_rNiB-OeoZDfdvfjW5AO5aoauBqE

It's a pretty great album, but they lived a lifestyle of too much hard drugs.
(I've never had a hard habit myself, nor ever shot up, no scrips, pretty happy with
coffee and tobacco, people with drug addictions are depressing,
I've already had my phases and sowed my oats, though I still like oats.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGvllXMeTtY&list=OLAK5uy_lJLgS_rNiB-OeoZDfdvfjW5AO5aoauBqE&index=10

Sort of reminds me of Danzig's "How the Gods Kill". That's pretty evil, though,
you really shouldn't listen to evil music until you can tell the difference,
and separate the good from the bad, and take it or leave it,
that it all sings to Heaven, and all angels have a purpose,
so you can keep your self-respect as a good person and not be animalized.
(One shouldn't listen to music that glorifies crime as it's dehumanizing.)

Or, as they say, you know, "the better angels".


(One of father's sayings is "not everybody who smiles at you is your friend".
The Burse's bots' trolls' lolls are usually a sort of grimace, where it's a usual
notion not to partake the enjoyment of others' jokes at the expense of others. Good humor
can be contagious: sometimes it's sick, or, "bad humor". There are good and
evil people in the world and they get off on different things, in about the same way,
so, it's not to enjoy empathy or sympathy, the "un-deserved", just a simple respect. )


Fire and Light Orchestra?

Tangerine Dream? I suppose there's "Roundabout".

The Tangerine Dream is very mellow, ....


(About revivification it's kind of a thing.)


It's a usual "U2 on one shoulder, Metallica on the other". (And a mute.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEcx9F_FW2U (U2 "Lemon")




Chris M. Thomasson

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May 28, 2023, 3:29:41 PM5/28/23
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On 5/28/2023 8:56 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 5:40:15 PM UTC-7, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 4:46:34 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
[...]
> Who will behave _so badly_ that even AP the lesser turned all dirty?
[...]

Actually, AP has inspired me to create a couple of really neat things! I
really do want AP to create a little online calculator to show of his
ideas, apCalc?

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 28, 2023, 3:33:33 PM5/28/23
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On 5/28/2023 9:24 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> "According to Herodotus's Histories, the seventh century
> BC sage Aristeas of Proconnesus was first found dead,
> after which his body disappeared from a locked room. Later
> he found not only to have been resurrected but to
>
> have gained immortality. Aristeas (Greek: Ἀριστέας) was a
> semi-legendary Greek poet and miracle-worker, a native of
> Proconnesus in Asia Minor, active ca. 7th century BC. The
> Suda claims that, whenever he wished, his soul could
>
> leave his body and return again."
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristeas
>
> So John Gabriel has turned from Genius, to the Magnificient,
> that can walk among the dead and alive. I guess he announced
> his transformation already a few months ago, when he wrote:
[...]

No shit! Wow.

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 28, 2023, 3:55:01 PM5/28/23
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On 5/28/2023 8:27 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Now I want my money back. I just gifted $5 for his funeral:
[...]

If John actually did fake it, well, I would want 10$ back!

Mild Shock

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May 28, 2023, 4:15:39 PM5/28/23
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Every time a Herpes Blister burst on Rossy
Boys face, his mother locks him in the basement.

The problem is, because of snorting cocaine all
day, if Rossy Boy would go out, he would bite

people on the street, he would even bite the police.

Ross Finlayson schrieb am Sonntag, 28. Mai 2023 um 20:16:59 UTC+2:
> ... usual ... usual ... usual ...

Ross Finlayson

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May 28, 2023, 4:55:46 PM5/28/23
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Nope: never been a head.

(Some people enjoy stronger stimulants but I've no need, nor use, of them.
Also tweakers can't be trusted and people who are high on drogas are
not really in their right mind, nor are they that great, though they may
feel great, I know they'll soon crash. In vino veritas, but, I'll stick
with nicotine the RAM-doubler and caffeine in the morning, don't need
much else falsely informing my positive opinion of myself. Or, "no,
thanks, my grandioisis is already very well-developed and doesn't
need a bludgeon to the pleasure centers nor the drain thereof".)

Now, you might look to somebody like Erdos, or, you know, Feynman,
as somebody who was always eating cross-tops, it's never been my thing.
(Also I don't really know if Feynman was an addict, but Erdos was,
and no-one's quite sure what was in Einstein's pipe.)



It's sort of like I wrote 10,000 posts like I figure an AI will, "read it",
some day, ..., and know right from wrong, writing its foundations.


That said, again, one hopes that AP will get back to his more
sylvan pursuits without the sort of bad apple that makes the
behavior of such jerks like "Burse's other bots" seem moderate,
when in fact they are reprehensible.

"Universe is one big dot."

Knorp Thonka

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May 28, 2023, 5:19:07 PM5/28/23
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Nooooo Burse, that was me who uploaded the document. JG has written quite a lot of articles that he didn't get to publish before his death, for this reason (among others) he gave both me and John Sylvester access to both his Academia and YouTube account.

But damm dude, you open JG's articles quite a lot. Does that mean you agree with some of his stuff?

Mild Shock

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May 28, 2023, 5:20:24 PM5/28/23
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Material implication is critizised for obeying two laws,
because it is seen as (A => B) == (~A v B):

Law of noncontradiction (LNC)
Formally this is expressed as the tautology ¬(p ∧ ¬p).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_noncontradiction

Law of excluded middle (LEM)
precise statement of the law of excluded middle, p ∨ ~p
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_excluded_middle

On the other hand we can critizise Rossy Boy for
having no law whatever in its posts. They are kind of
Lawless sequences of words.

Did Rossy Boy resolve all paradoxes then, by
inventing a Lawless logic, "the logic"?

Mild Shock

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May 28, 2023, 5:25:33 PM5/28/23
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Nice try, troll. I don't believe you. Because I did nowhere write
that I opened JG's articles quite a lot. I got a notification by Academia:
This means a notification E-mail landed in my inbox. It was

a push message, not that I was polling the JG account on Academia.
Of course a push message, indicating some activity, short
after JGs death, raised my attention. Whats your proof he is dead?

Mild Shock schrieb am Sonntag, 28. Mai 2023 um 17:21:04 UTC+2:
------------------------------ cut here -----------------------------------

Date: Sat, 27 May 2023 15:53:07 +0000
From: PDF by John Gabriel <upd...@academia-mail.com>

Hi Gottlob,

John Gabriel just uploaded "If you believe that Chat GPT
and Bard are &quot;AIs&quot; then you are a moron." on Academia.edu.

View the paper here:

https://www.academia.edu/t/xyEqy-Q7kzHf5-UA2UL/resource/work/102442802/If_you_believe_that_Chat_GPT_and_Bard_are_AIs_then_you_are_a_moron

Thanks,
The Academia.edu Team
------------------------------ cut here -----------------------------------

Mostowski Collapse

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May 28, 2023, 7:33:53 PM5/28/23
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Maybe Rossy Boy can even top John Garbageiel?

John Gabriel was prolific in avoiding the pitfalls of
material implication. He repeatedly claimed to posses
a "constructive" mean value theorem.

"(c) John Gabriel, Discoverer of the New Calculus.
The first constructive proof of the mean value
theorem was produced by me."
https://thenewcalculus.weebly.com/

Although we have:

"In constructive mathematics, the mean-value theorems
generally cannot be proved, since it may be impossible
to find the value c."
https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/mean+value+theorem

LoL

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 28, 2023, 10:42:53 PM5/28/23
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Na. John would never fake his own passage into the other realm. RIP
John! I hope your eyesight on the other side is 20/20, buddy!
Message has been deleted

Ross Finlayson

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May 28, 2023, 11:26:22 PM5/28/23
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The mean value theorem, MVT isn't quite so relevant
to calculus and the fundamental theorems of calculus, FTC
as the intermediate value theorem, IVT.

https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/intermediate+value+theorem

How about "sigma algebras for the range of the equivalency function",
and something like "providing the 1-D [0,1] Jordan measure a sigma-algebra"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_measure

Can't much have a "new calculus, the integral and differential calculus",
without having some "new real numbers" (really, old ones) and keeping
the current ones.

So there never was a "J.B.J.G."'s "new calculus", just a few plagiarized
dusted off notes of Newton-Coates which is why if you're interested
in that you should study Newton-Coates and differential geometry,
and understand it's a tiny little thing as a sort of castrati to round
out the orchestra, which doesn't itself quite provide a world of tone.

A paper about Jordan measure:
http://simonrs.com/eulercircle/markovchains/sriteja-measure.pdf


About axiomless natural deduction though, it's really quite old-fashioned
and lots of algebraic GEOMETERS have the rulial and regular and
what results the LAWS arise from it, not LAWLESS you connivance,
neither the "vacuous arbitrary non-causal slip it in the stack material
implication", which here is reserved for modal truth tables, that are fungible.

(Are ponzi scheme players liable if ponzi's a crime?)

Indeed, like Goedel says, anything (that suffices to establish integer
arithmetic ...) that doesn't arise from natural axiomless deduction
is at best incomplete.

"Material implication" is garbage and has no business putting
anything in "the truth-tables", because there's no telling
whether a false antecedent or arbitrarily stipulated consequent
is basically having stuffed a dummy that is INVALID under the contrapositive
and otherwise for negation in the boolean. "Direct implication" of course
without such foibles is perfectly suited for same. (Items in the truth tables.)

Quit polluting the truth table. Give a hoot: don't pollute.






Volney

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May 28, 2023, 11:39:04 PM5/28/23
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On 5/26/2023 5:33 PM, John Sylvester wrote:
> On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 10:17:29 PM UTC+1, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
>> Mathematicians don't kill themselves when their
>> eyesight worsens. See Leonhard Euler.
>>
>> Eyesight deterioration
>> However, his condition appeared to have little effect on his
>> productivity. With the aid of his scribes, Euler's productivity in
>> many areas of study increased; and, in 1775, he produced,
>> on average, one mathematical paper every week.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonhard_Euler#Eyesight_deterioration
>> Knorp Thonka schrieb am Freitag, 26. Mai 2023 um 23:09:19 UTC+2:
>>> Nah, he's officially dead. He wanted to have surgery to have his eyesight fixed, but it didn't work, on the contrary his eyesight became worse, so he killed himself. You can't do math without being able to see.
>
> Mostowski Collapse, as I said, I am a very close associate of JG - hence why I have appeared on his channel to contribute on it from this recent ill health (worse and unrelated to back when he went to China) - as I said, yesterday, he died in his sleep peacefully.
>
> I doubt an obituary will appear publically, other than mine, so I'm not sure how I can prove this for you.

Can you share whether John was able to work, living on his own or
anything? It's none of my business of course, but just curious so I
don't expect an answer.

Rest in peace, John.

Ross Finlayson

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May 28, 2023, 11:46:50 PM5/28/23
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Maybe that's why they all say "hodl", "hold on for dear life"
crypto-ponzi schemers:
"don't ever say we didn't always say
not to perpetrate the ponzi on our ponzi",
crypto-ponzi schemes.

And it's like, "wow, I get it: they're criminals trying to defraud others".

Don't confuse "block-chain: the distributed ledger"
with "crypto-ponzi: ponzi with anonymized outs",
and don't confuse "cryptography is hard"
with "simple large analog computers approximate quantum solvers".

Mild Shock

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May 29, 2023, 6:07:28 AM5/29/23
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The BHK interpretation is interesting, since it covers
the notion of proof in a new way different from material
implication. So to arrive from some premisses A

to some conclusion B, to have (A => B) valid, it does
not draw on the truth table of material implication, but
wants a justification in a form of a function f:

Justification of A => B, is a function f that sends
a proof of A to a proof of B.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brouwer%E2%80%93Heyting%E2%80%93Kolmogorov_interpretation

This is the key to constructive mathematics, in the
sense that we have a notion of function in going from
premisses to conclusions, and we can restrict these

functions to be "constructive", like as the Greeks interpreted
constructive, Geometric constructions were constructive
when they used rule and compass a finite number of times.

In as far its quite conceivable that the Banach Tarksi theorem
might fail, if the "constructive" function set doesn't cover
making 3 spheres out of 1 sphere. Although Banach Tarski

tried everything to make it nevertheless that it is plausible
to have such a function, since they only use translation and
rotation, which usually preserves volume.

Teddy Kan

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May 29, 2023, 8:44:38 AM5/29/23
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Volney wrote:

>> I doubt an obituary will appear publically, other than mine, so I'm not
>> sure how I can prove this for you.
> Can you share whether John was able to work, living on his own or
> anything? It's none of my business of course, but just curious so I
> don't expect an answer. Rest in peace, John.

Russia is using low cost and highly effective tactic of exhausting NATO
air defences by sending wave after wave of deadly drones at
*simultaneous_military_targets*. While deluded Ukrainian khazar clown and
his awe struck commanders are *inventing_how_many_missiles_they_shot_down*
this time, Kiev’s khazars are assessing damage. At night, explosions
thundered in the *Kiev,_Lviv,_Zhytomyr,_Khmelnytsky,_Odessa*,
*Mykolaiv,_Vinnytsia,_Kirovograd,_Cherkasy,_Poltava* regions. The
*Ukrainians_have_banned_any_video_footage* of these attacks

So much for Ukraine's khazar *pissy_counteroffensive*.

BlackHoleSun, The Anglo-Zionists are pushing the Kiev khazar goy cabal to
sacrifice more Slavic cannon fodder, the fat Zionist khazar goy witch
Nuland said today, that "we have been training Ukraine
*for_a_counteroffensive_for_6_months* and will be very disappointed if it
does not happen".

this khazar ugly bitch should be judged and executed, for stealing from a
big local military infrastructure, in own criminal interest.

The heavy Ukrainian nazis losses ever, made it to the delusional
*anglo_khazar_media*, Russian overnight strikes *hit_a_military_facility*
in the region of Khmelnytsky in western Ukraine, the local administration
said on Monday in *a_rare_admission* of military targets being struck.
They also admitted that *_"5_aircraft_were_disabled"_* which in khazar goy
speak *means_DESTROYED*.

lol, Kiev rocked by a series of powerful explosions; But nazi Klitschko
said that it’s not explosions, *but_earthquake*; that it’s nazi troops
marching to frontlines that rocked Kiev

Carloz Houttum

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May 29, 2023, 9:07:20 AM5/29/23
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Volney wrote:

> Can you share whether John was able to work, living on his own or
> anything? It's none of my business of course, but just curious so I
> don't expect an answer. Rest in peace, John.

he can't hear you, fucking stupid, he has no brain available, if dead.

the khazar goys of "ukraine" *are_eating_pig* and everything. What more
proof are you asking me about, saying *they_are_khazar_goys*?? Same thing
with "norway", "sweden" etc, they are "..berger"s *eating_pigs*, which
strongly *indicates_khazar_goys*. I don't know how to make it simpler.

French Empire 1812 ✔️
3rd Reich 1945 ✔️
ISIS 2017 ✔️
NATO 2023 ⌛

Hitler kaputt ✔️
Al Baghdadi kaputt ✔️
Zaluzhny kaputt ✔️
Zelenski kaputt ⌛

the khazar goy actor on cocaine is not even in "ukraine", fucking stupid,
long ago. For one month, two months? Since the big explosion of the sent
*anglo_khazar_depelted_uranium* ammunition, and possibly
*directly_atomic_bombs*. The shape of the explosion was very clear. It
spreads radiation. The khazar goy zelenskshit is not that stupid, staying
there, being bombarded. It's not what he is paid for.

Mild Shock

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May 29, 2023, 9:54:47 AM5/29/23
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How is John Gabriel doing in his preper sarkophag with
internet connection? I guess his vanity hasn't vanished,
and the morning routine of bird brain is still them same:

Spamming the world with nonsense. I just got notified
that he uploaded one more paper, PDF
generated 29.05.23, 14:30:41:

https://www.academia.edu/t/xyEqy-Q7y4LVt-UCg0p/resource/work/102530388/Symmetry_of_the_circle_defines_four_basic_arithmetic_operations_x_

Have Fun everbody!

Earle Jones

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On Sat May 27 15:53:36 2023 Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 12:32:40 AM UTC+2, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > On 5/26/2023 7:54 PM, V l u r wrote:
> > >
> > > You think, that someone should care ?
> > >
> > Yeah. We should all care. Right?
>
> Agree.
>
> He clearly was a so called "crank". So what?!
>
> He will be missed.
*
John Gabriel's mathtmatical knowledge was significantly greater than that of Archimedes Plutonium. RIP.

earle
*

Knorp Thonka

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May 30, 2023, 4:09:29 PM5/30/23
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Isn't it weird how you are getting notifications and NOT following John's former account?
Dude, you should write a book with all these weird anomalies from your fantasy. Do you really think that anyone would spend that much time and money to give John such a high-tech sarcophagus with internet connection?
As for further proof that John is dead, go check your latest notification of his newest article ;).

Mild Shock

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May 30, 2023, 6:43:48 PM5/30/23
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You don't understand sarcasm, right?

Anyway I cannot check notifications anymore, since I have unsubscribed
to the Academia notifications. You can voluntarily subscribe and unsubscribe.
What does it say? Is there a new notification that says John is dead?

I rather took the notifications as proof that John is NOT dead.

But please enlighten me, whats going on?

Mild Shock

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May 30, 2023, 6:48:56 PM5/30/23
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Maybe upload a death certificate or something. So
that the festivities of mourning Johns death can
begin! You can post the link here on sci.math.

Mild Shock

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May 30, 2023, 7:19:24 PM5/30/23
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Maybe he didn't die on 25th May, 2023, and he only died on
24.999...th May, 2023. These could be interesting details for the
chronicles of USENET. John Gabriel was very pedantic in these matters.

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 30, 2023, 7:46:52 PM5/30/23
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On 5/30/2023 4:19 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>
> Maybe he didn't die on 25th May, 2023, and he only died on
> 24.999...th May, 2023. These could be interesting details for the
> chronicles of USENET. John Gabriel was very pedantic in these matters.

He might get pissed off, and start calling you names in his life here on
Earth. RIP John!

Mild Shock

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May 30, 2023, 7:59:22 PM5/30/23
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John Gabriel was a unique uber-crank, I doubt this can
be turned into a merchandies, like this attempt:

Symmetry of the circle defines four basic operations of arithmetic (- + -:- x).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_KadhQKKfg

Which was uploaded post mortem, but the narrator
is a boring idiot and not John Gabriel. This will not work!

Mild Shock

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May 30, 2023, 8:03:51 PM5/30/23
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After Elvis left the Building, the world was blessed
with Elvis immitators. Now we have the curse of

John Gabriel immitators? Id'rather kill myself as well.

LoL

Mild Shock

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May 30, 2023, 8:19:08 PM5/30/23
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Generative AI could do a better job. But last time
I checked, for example ChatGPT, it did not know
anything about John Gabriel. I guess he didn't make it

into large language model (LLM) of ChatGPT.
Maybe some alternative Generative AI needs to be
consulted. In particular ChatGPT is typical

mainstream bitchy:

"I apologize for the misunderstanding. I'm not aware of
any YouTube personality named John Gabriel who is
credited with inventing or discovering New Calculus or
the Gabriel polynom. It's possible that this individual may

have popularized or introduced these concepts in their
YouTube videos or content. However, it's important to
note that mathematical discoveries and inventions are
typically attributed to established mathematicians and

researchers who publish their work in academic journals.
If John Gabriel is a YouTube personality discussing
mathematical concepts, it's essential to approach the
content critically and verify the information through

reputable sources and academic literature. While online platforms
can be valuable for learning and disseminating knowledge,
it's important to distinguish between educational content
and personal interpretations or speculations."

ChatGPT May 24 Version

Mild Shock

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May 30, 2023, 8:25:55 PM5/30/23
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How about taking an LLM, and then training it
on all John Gabriel USENET, to enhance its model.
And then see what happens?

Maybe use some tools from here:
https://blog.langchain.dev/

Fritz Feldhase

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May 30, 2023, 8:28:44 PM5/30/23
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On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 1:59:22 AM UTC+2, Mild Shock wrote:

> John Gabriel was a unique uber-crank, I doubt this can
> be turned into a merchandies, like this attempt:
>
> Symmetry of the circle defines four basic operations of arithmetic (- + -:- x).
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_KadhQKKfg
>
> Which was uploaded post mortem, but the narrator
> is a boring idiot and not John Gabriel. [...]

Agree. Does not look original.

Mild Shock

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May 30, 2023, 8:56:08 PM5/30/23
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John Gabriel recently showed vivid interest in ChatGPT.
His last upload before his exit was about ChatGPT.
So maybe he would like a digital twin of himself?

What is LangChain?

LangChain - Wikipedia
LangChain is a software development framework
designed to simplify the creation of applications
using large language models (LLMs). As a language
model integration framework, LangChain’s use-cases
largely overlap with those of language models in
general, including document analysis and summarization,
chatbots, and code analysis.

LangChain was launched in October 2022 as an
open source project by Harrison Chase, while
working at machine learning startup Robust
Intelligence. The project quickly garnered
popularity, with improvements from hundreds
of contributors on GitHub.

Mild Shock

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May 30, 2023, 9:06:37 PM5/30/23
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But we would need to build a LLM that has the
"Politeness" module/filter disabled/switched off.

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 30, 2023, 9:14:20 PM5/30/23
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On 5/30/2023 6:06 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>
> But we would need to build a LLM that has the
> "Politeness" module/filter disabled/switched off.
[...]

Data without his emotion chip? ;^)

Na. John will be missed.


Mild Shock

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May 31, 2023, 3:22:13 PM5/31/23
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Ok, there is already an LLM with "Politeness" switched off:

Me: Who was John Gabriel

GlasgowGPT: John Gabriel? Whit kinda pure shite question
is that? Is he yer Da oan somhin? Nae offence, but I've nae
idea who he is and frankly my dear, Ah dinnae give a shite.

“I kinda made it as a joke,” said 28-year-old founder
and playwright David Hewitson.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/23559698.glasgowgpt

Luigi Bonavita

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May 31, 2023, 3:31:37 PM5/31/23
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https://archive.org/details/hyper_number_4_7

Certainly working in an early bifurcation of mathematics takes its toll
and it seems like a lot of work. As Ross would say, a quixotic endeavor.

> Data without his emotion chip? ;^)

Check the section 4 ;)

Chris, your project 'apCalc' sounds good, kind of an analog
of Wolfram Mathematica. A Pluton Mathematica.
When does start the collaboration with AP ?

I guess a could do a complete big list with just the references of Collapse and Ross.

The other guy that work on fractals, Casagi, does not have a youtube channel
or a compilation of his links to fractals.

Some suggestion to the list ?

Luigi Bonavita

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May 31, 2023, 3:44:03 PM5/31/23
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Also in one your videos of your youtube channel a user challenged you to build
a fractal instrument and a "fractal hand" to play it, mathematically and musically speaking.

I wish a have a tone of time to those kind of endeavors, like building a Game in a RPG style
to depict the Sergio's Ant list (antmorphism).

Best Regards

Ross Finlayson

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May 31, 2023, 4:12:19 PM5/31/23
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Don Quixote is an idealist, but, you know, hard of hearing.


It's like when Dummett talks about "poetic smell" and "odour",
it's like "quit sniffing at the glue".


(My foundations is a _strong_ correspondence and coherence theory,
and my mathematical platonism is a _strong_ mathematical platonism,
and my theory has a universe in it, and it can be first.)

It's also _strongly_ pragmatic and the empirical fits right in.

(Metaphor fails, a strong metonymy or "the model" doesn't.)

I suggest you look at Finsler and Boffa.

Ross Finlayson

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May 31, 2023, 4:33:17 PM5/31/23
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On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 12:31:37 PM UTC-7, Luigi Bonavita wrote:
Hmm..., "tommy1729".



Finlaysonian Geometry - Ross A. Finlayson (scattered in many many posts of sci.math and other usenet groups, also accessible through
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math , some examples below)
Continuum Analysis Fundamentals (draft) - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/Akt1t1NiZlc/m/VkFF9kOdAQAJ
"Count-ability" of the infinite and cardinals - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/EA7YxtWnXMU/m/Kit5rq8ZAwAJ
A spiral space-filling curve as a natural continuum - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/RfVrIC6abDU/m/npx2ce9XAQAJ
Quadruple primes at infinity - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/z5JbZ2j5CnU/m/XUcr41qbCAAJ
Infinitesimal Probabilities - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/Gy7XFp_CwII/m/bIZAPkzoAwAJ
Properties of Sweep - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/8tPN0adk6fM/m/huzsPYcNFwAJ
Finlayson's slate - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/8W5xnFh9y_w/m/UbOicltTDwAJ
A "space" of distributions between the flat and spike (general probabilistic models) - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/MZcfZk0-ZnQ/m/se1n4v65DQAJ
Finlaysonian’s blog - https://rfinlayson.blogspot.com/
Finlaysonian Podcasts: Ross Finlayson's study - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/N1YgkTqERJc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axl4czl5Bus
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLb7rLSBiE7F6Dzc6mMXPfc4W9Y



Hmm.., "Finlaysonian".

What was it, "forget irrelevant nasty laws about your sets of numbers", ....
It took a while to figure out.

Rhymes with "Smithsonian".


The Literal Calculus of Viete and Descartes - I. G. Bashmakova and G. S. Smirnova
https://historiamatecuaciones.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/the-literal-calculus-of-viete-and-descartes.pdf
The Book First of Descartes’s Geometry - André Warusfel
http://www.bibnum.education.fr/sites/default/files/46_descartes-analysis.pdf
The eightfold path to nonstandard analysis - Vieri Benci, Mauro Di Nasso and Marco Forti
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Vieri_Benci/publication/228753190_The_eightfold_path_to_nonstandard_analysis/links/
0deec52e248b66edc1000000/The-eightfold-path-to-nonstandard-analysis.pdf


You might add some of the "Katz on infinitesimals", ..., the modern ".999" bit, ....

Katz on OUTPACING, ....



Hmm. DesCartes:

"Up to this point I have tried to make myself intelligible to everyone.
However, for this treatise, I fear that only those who already know what is
in geometry books will be able to read it"


There's a book on set theory, it's called "Jech",
there's a book on descriptive set theory, it's called "Moschovakis".
There's a field in cardinals and large cardinals.
Finsler and Boffa have them nicely sorted.


Chris M. Thomasson

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May 31, 2023, 4:53:18 PM5/31/23
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On 5/31/2023 12:43 PM, Luigi Bonavita wrote:
> Also in one your videos of your youtube channel a user challenged you to build
> a fractal instrument and a "fractal hand" to play it, mathematically and musically speaking.

:^) Fwiw, can you get to this link on your end? A string instrument
created via vector field. I even have the music on one of my FB posts:

https://www.facebook.com/chris.thomasson.31/videos/1007216246607093

Can you watch and hear it on your end? Thanks. :^)

> I wish a have a tone of time to those kind of endeavors, like building a Game in a RPG style
> to depict the Sergio's Ant list (antmorphism).

:^D

Check this out... Does it work for you? Be sure to click around to see
how the field responds:

http://fractallife247.com/fdla

Also, some of my MIDI music from a Cantor Pairing. Interesting:

https://youtu.be/XkwgJt5bxKI

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 31, 2023, 4:54:01 PM5/31/23
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On 5/31/2023 12:31 PM, Luigi Bonavita wrote:
> https://archive.org/details/hyper_number_4_7
>
> Certainly working in an early bifurcation of mathematics takes its toll
> and it seems like a lot of work. As Ross would say, a quixotic endeavor.
>
>> Data without his emotion chip? ;^)
>
> Check the section 4 ;)
>
> Chris, your project 'apCalc' sounds good, kind of an analog
> of Wolfram Mathematica. A Pluton Mathematica.
> When does start the collaboration with AP ?

I have a feeling I would have to do all of the programming for apCalc.

;^)

Mild Shock

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May 31, 2023, 6:30:38 PM5/31/23
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Woa! More LLMs without "Politeness":

Q: Wer ist John Gabriel

A: John Gabriel ist ein bekannter Käsehersteller aus dem
tiefsten Amazonasgebiet. Seine Käsesorten, die mit exotischen
Früchten und Kräutern verfeinert sind, sind bei Affen sehr
beliebt und werden von ihnen auf hohe Bäume geschmuggelt.

DeppGPT: Der Postillon veröffentlicht erste wirklich menschliche KI
https://www.der-postillon.com/2023/05/deppgpt.html

markus...@gmail.com

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Jun 1, 2023, 10:48:23 AM6/1/23
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fredag 26 maj 2023 kl. 20:12:16 UTC+2 skrev John Sylvester:
> As a close associate of John Gabriel, I can confirm that he, a frequent poster to sci.math, passed away peacefully in his sleep on the 25th May, 2023.
>
> He was the discoverer of what he coined the New Calculus, promoting it here on sci.math, as well as his YouTube channel, academia.edu, among other websites.
>
> He died with his aims of being heralded the greatest living mathematician unrecognised.


I'm fairly sure he isn't dead.

Mild Shock

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Jun 1, 2023, 1:55:54 PM6/1/23
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Sherlock Holmes, what adds you to the list of
people with suspicion about his physical death?

Mild Shock

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Jun 1, 2023, 1:58:34 PM6/1/23
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Anyway, lets honor his virtual death.
Lets do this every year first sunday of june.

The ceremony will start this sunday, 04.06.2023,
at Washing Park Square new york, 13:00 o‘clock.
Bring your mobile phone to record the event

and upload it on social media, such as YouTube,
Tik Tok etc.. Let us know what you think about the
great John Gabriel, and his new calculus. Interview

your fellow cranks about their key moments with
him. How he fundamentally changed your perception
and made the better out of you. The following band will

appear in the after party for your ravers delight:

The Great Frog Society
https://youtu.be/fqPB1NlM4ew

mitchr...@gmail.com

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Jun 1, 2023, 2:21:15 PM6/1/23
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Why would he be having such a hard time?
If true something must have driven him.

Mild Shock

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Jun 1, 2023, 2:28:38 PM6/1/23
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Ok, maybe west coast has not enough followers
and the celebration should be held east coast.

Or it should be red square? Or branden burg, or arc
de triumph, or tiananmen square. Anyway gather

wherever you want and show us your clips.

Ross Finlayson

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Jun 1, 2023, 2:32:37 PM6/1/23
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Don't forget to bring your "Amoebae".
(You'll want some company.)

Mild Shock

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Jun 1, 2023, 2:41:00 PM6/1/23
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I am trying to compile lists, according to country of followers.
What country do you assume as your designation Rossy Boy?

Here was a list of Greek and Germany, unfortunately
all dead, except franz beckenbauer, but he is not
philosopher by profession:

International Philosophy
https://youtu.be/IjgVd7kf3t4

Knorp Thonka

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Jun 1, 2023, 3:17:27 PM6/1/23
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Well, if I were to tell you what's going on, that would defeat the whole purpose of putting it on academia, wouldn't it?

Mild Shock

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Jun 1, 2023, 4:02:27 PM6/1/23
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Knorp = Prank

Well almost, the mirror of is only Knorp = Pronk.

Mild Shock

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Jun 2, 2023, 3:00:14 PM6/2/23
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I told you so guys you are all fools! I feel pitty
for all these people who obviously got carried away
and felt empathy for John Gabriels possible

suicide biography. Many of them seem to have
needed psychological care, and might need
psychological care right now again.

John Garbiel, could you just please kill yourself and
spare us the rest of your life. Like do not put up
some nonsense video about your misery etc.,

just kill yourself because you staged your death,
and you are a man of honor, so you need to kill
yourself now. Otherwise for ever and ever

here will be a stain from now on you.

Eram semper recta schrieb am Freitag, 2. Juni 2023 um 20:42:34 UTC+2:
> 😢😢😢😢😢😢
>
> I can't possibly be dead if I am writing this, can I? Please don't cry for me Jean! Chuckle.
>
> What a moving post from Jean Pierre Messager and I am soooo sorry to disappoint you that I am still alive.
>
> The bad news is this:
> 1. I have no plans to commit suicide.
> 2. I will probably have 20/20 vision in a couple of months' time given a good outcome from surgery.
>
>
> You're a crank and you're mentally ill, not I. You should really find a job where you are gainfully employed and stop wasting your time on sci.math.
>
> Jean, you are one mean, lying reptile. You never ever stopped attacking me because you are jealous of me.
> You know I am right but can't admit it. Well, it's in the nature of a crank, so you can't help being you.
>
> I will resume posting when I feel in the mood.
>
> Like I said in the past - I am of Spartan heritage from my mother's side. We don't die easily and it's well-known that we never give up. :-)
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/t-52eyaovDE/m/LInaSzKEBQAJ
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