The Pakistanian Military Dictator, a foolish patsy of Bush-Neocon-
Crime Syndicate, provided critical validation to the 911 LIE by
implicitly buckling under the false conspiracy theory.
The truth is that the FBI incompetento bastards have not caught the
Anthrax mailer after so many years have passed. It is quite clear that
they are covering it up. It is quite clear that they are complicit in
the racist coverup because that criminal is a yank bastard whose trail
will lead back to the crime syndicate mentioned above.
There was a time when the FBI has a competent head who was patriotic
and loyal to the consitution. He got the bastard criminal Nixon
exposed and exiled to China. This Mueller is a swiss-german coward
afraid of the mainly anglo-saxon establishment.
The victory of democracy and judiciary in Pakistan is critical to the
911 truth movement. The destiny of Bush and Mush are linked.
I have searched the whole world of youtube and video,google.com, but I
have found no video of their chief justice or a speech by him. I
prefer any video, preferably english speech because that is all I can
understand. Still, any video would be good.
Nixon "exiled to China"? Since when is California in China? You are a
hopeless fool.
FK
PS:
The Antipode to the Wolfowitzes is another one of your ilk,
Henry Kissinger, who negotiated for Nixon our defeat in Vietnam.
Now Bush has called him back to set him up again, this time
for Henry to take the blame for a defeat in Iraq... ahahaha...
And you Jews believe and trumpet that you are smarter than
the rest of us... ahahahaha... Take care, Kaz. No hard feelins'
ahahaha... ahahahanson
"No hard feelings"? Your typically confused rhetorical abyss is full of
nothing but hard feelings. Somehow or other you appear to believe that I
am in some way directly responsible for the deluded political choices
made by a series of Republicans who happen to have Jewish ancestry. The
closest advisors of Nixon and Bush were generally not of the kind that
you blame. Nixon really never paid much attention to what Kissinger told
him. Nixon routinely insulted Kissinger with anti-semitic rhetoric. And
Kissinger, so anxious to be near the seat of power took it all. And as
for Wolfowitz, he was of such importance to Bush that he sent him away
to the World Bank. Bush the younger was essentially sui generis. He had
a smart mom and dad and the worst genes he inherited were cast-offs of
his parents. We have had a succession of intellectual midgets occupying
the presidency in recent decades. The thing that has most distinguished
them was relying on an old boy network of past political supporters.
When apparently smart acolytes appeared they usually have not had their
advice filtered through the strainer of common sense.
As in your case these advisors felt they had to have a strongly held
opinion on everything even if they knew almost nothing about the issue
at hand. I can see how you would be attracted both negatively and
positively to such creatures as you are clearly one just like them.
Filled with feelings of self importance on almost all subjects. Note
your insistence that these self generators are referred to as my
"faction". It is hardly my faction to associate me with a hard right
political faction. You clearly are a poor reader if you believe I am a
supporter of right wing causes in the USA. And you are an even poorer
reader of those very few comments I have made about Israel and its
politics. My opinions is that the near east is a land where over the
centuries one invader after another has seized the land from those who
insisted they were the long term aboriginal inhabitants thereof. Arabs,
for example, are in no position to carp about peoples who steal their
lands since they stole land wholesale from the late 7th century for many
hundreds of years thereafter. But then again that observation is sure to
incite you to insist that I am an apologist for Israel. And let's
certaily hear some more of your manic "ah ahs" as if this passes for
some kind of rational contribution to disputation. Oh and note there is
no "z" in my paternal name contrary to what you feel you are entitled to
provide.
FK
[hanson]
as you wish, Kaz,... ahahaAHAHAha... Here is the total explanation
for your feelings of disputation.... ahaha... No hard feelin's, Kaz!
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/f232cf15901ce7ba
Thanks for the laughs, Kaz
ahahaha.... ahahahanson
***{If a drunken Jewish teenager making a fool of himself discredits the
Jewish people as a whole, then does not a drunken Nordic teenager making
a fool of himself discredit all Nordics, including you? If not, why not?
--MJ}***
> and fomented by the architects of the Gulf war II, Wolfowitz Perle,
> Wurmser etc, Jews, who had goaded Bush, the Brilliant, to go after
> Saddam Hussein who had lobbed a few missiles into Israel a
> decade earlier.
***{Would you say that Bush, a non-Jew, has by his idiotic behavior
discredited all non-Jews, including you? If not, why not? --MJ}***
> As it says in your Torah: "You reap what you have
> sown". With shit like that as your baggage
***{If Wolfowitz, Perle, Wurmser, etc., qualify as Fred's baggage, then
do not Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Tamerlane, and Caligula qualify as yours?
If not, why not? How is it that the integrity of a Jew is deemed
tarnished when another Jew misbehaves, and yet the behavior of a gentile
is not deemed tarnished by the behavior of other gentiles? --MJ}***
> , you, Kaz, calling him
> now a fool is not going to calm him or them down... ahahaha...
> >
> Bad scene, Kaz. ... Bad scene, since you apparently have not
> noticed yet the ever swelling under-current of Anti-Semitism (even
> on Fox News) that is building in the US, not to mention in the rest
> of the world. Your loud and fanatical Zionist faction has effectively
> terminated that golden era which you Jews have enjoyed in the
> US since the 1950's. -- It's a shame, but you wanted it that way...
> ahahaha... ahahanson
***{Are you saying that it is reasonable to dislike or hate one Jew in
reaction to the misbehavior of another Jew, while it is not reasonable
to dislike or hate one gentile for the misbehavior of another? Or,
alternatively, are you merely saying that's what many gentiles do? In
other words, are you merely saying that such a double standard--which we
call antisemitism--exists, or are you saying it ought to exist, that it
is right and reasonable to treat Jews, and only Jews, in that way?
--MJ}***
> PS:
> The Antipode to the Wolfowitzes is another one of your ilk,
> Henry Kissinger, who negotiated for Nixon our defeat in Vietnam.
***{If someone said to you, "The antipode to Hitler is another one of
your ilk, Stalin, who ordered the starvation of millions of Ukranian
farmers in the 1930's," would you find that to be an unfair statement?
If not, why not? --MJ}***
> Now Bush has called him back to set him up again, this time
> for Henry to take the blame for a defeat in Iraq... ahahaha...
> And you Jews believe and trumpet that you are smarter than
> the rest of us...
***{Stated in that way, such a claim would be foolish. What is not
foolish, however, is to say that the average intelligence of Jews is
significantly higher than the average intelligence of non-Jews, based on
every reasonable measure of generalized cognitive ability that has
actually been tested. Such a fact, however, does not imply that any
particular Jew is more intelligent than any particular gentile, or that
all Jews are smarter than all gentiles, or even that the smartest Jew is
smarter than the smartest gentile. It does, however, explain the
disproportionate numbers of Jews to be found in the higher echelons of
activities that benefit from intelligence, including not merely
legitimate lines of endeavor, but also essentially predatory behaviors
such as those typically engaged in by governmental officials. --MJ}***
ahahahaha... Take care, Kaz. No hard feelins'
> ahahaha... ahahahanson
***{I dare say that he, and lots of others, will have hard feelings when
they read the sorts of things you have said above, until and unless you
begin to word such comments in a way that makes it clear you do not
support the kind of double standard that you seem to be supporting.
Therefore please clarify: do you believe that people ought to be judged
as individuals, based on their own, personal behavior, or do you think
it is legitimate to ignore the facts about an individual and judge him
solely on the basis of his racial or ethnic background? --MJ}***
*****************************************************************
If I seem to be ignoring you, consider the possibility
that you are in my killfile. --MJ
> The nexus between 911 truth movement and its success is closely
> related to the democratic victory in Pakistan.
>
> The Pakistanian Military Dictator, a foolish patsy of Bush-Neocon-
> Crime Syndicate, provided critical validation to the 911 LIE by
> implicitly buckling under the false conspiracy theory.
>
You're calling Mmsharraf a foolish patsy? No, you're
the one that should be foolish something. Your
Mosharraf saved a lot of grief for Americans, Iranians,
Pakestanis, and believe it or not, Indians. He may not
be academically much but he has a thing for finding and
walking the thinnest isthmus amid the surrounding Hell.
Anyone else would've blown it one way or another, but
he's managed it the best that could be done, so far.
As a matter of fact he must've been the only one to
dare to take up the task. A coup in Pakestan is not a
coup in Iraq or "Trinidad"! Pakestan's government prior
to Mosharraf had blown it already for one year. They
were doomed to go after recognizing the Taleban
government right after their horrendous massacre of
innocent people in Mazare Sharif. But nobody in
Pakestan stepped forward to accept the responsibility,
until Mosharraf. What does that say about him?
It was either Iran or USA. So USA got it quickly
running of course, but out of necessity also in full
agreement with Iran (Mosharraf immediately after the
coup was briefed in Tehran). But jingobats as you
Americans are, you stayed under the impression that you
could also keep on preserving the Taleban behind Iran's
back, just as you've been doing right now with the
terrorist group MKO in Iraq. This "tact" of yours
lasted until Taleban conducted the concerted and
simultaneous attacks on the headquarters of Northern
Alliance command, and the September 11. Then you
bastards got the message at last.
When Iran tells you something about the middle east,
you Americans should shut up and listen, because it is
for your own good as well. Jingobatics can only blow
your own asses in the Middle East. Leave that crap in
you to surface in "Trinidad" or "Tahiti".
> The truth is that the FBI incompetento bastards have not caught the
> Anthrax mailer after so many years have passed. It is quite clear that
> they are covering it up. It is quite clear that they are complicit in
> the racist coverup because that criminal is a yank bastard whose trail
> will lead back to the crime syndicate mentioned above.
>
> There was a time when the FBI has a competent head who was patriotic
> and loyal to the consitution. He got the bastard criminal Nixon
> exposed and exiled to China.
Oh you Zio motherfucker. So there's your problem after
all. Another Zio. Another waste of my time.
Nixon scared your Israeli asses popping right out of
your pants, DIDN'T he? The one President who dared to
have and exercise his own views. Well, that was then,
with the loony, fucked up, Baby-Boomers around cheering
you. Camel manure had more brain in it than every
single one of those nobody's. Try to bring down Bush
with your journalists now! Cause he doesn't listen to
you either.
--
"alaf bAyad be dahane bozeh shirin biyAd."
PS: If you are still not happy now, Mitch then, instead of you
arguing with me about promoting Jewish superiority, start to do
something to make you really happy. Start the really smart thing and
begin to promote and do work on a solution that involves only
US Jews alone (and goyim volunteers) in helping your brethren in
Israel and stop continuing to extort 3-7 billion dollars each year from
the tables of poor American taxpayers for your ilk in the holey land &
produces fruit like this: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
... an on going Jewish behavior which created & continues to foster
ass-venting Islamic extremism & fanaticism and is the source of why
the US now hated all over the world. -- Jones listen!... it's
-- AMERICA FIRST!... AMERICA FIRST! ...AMERICA FIRST!
***{No, I did not equate them with Hitler and Stalin. Here, between the
lines of asterisks, is the actual context again, which you snipped:
*********************************
> The Antipode to the Wolfowitzes is another one of your ilk,
> Henry Kissinger, who negotiated for Nixon our defeat in Vietnam.
***{If someone said to you, "The antipode to Hitler is another one of
your ilk, Stalin, who ordered the starvation of millions of Ukranian
farmers in the 1930's," would you find that to be an unfair statement?
If not, why not? --MJ}***
*********************************
The point of the above, which would be obvious to you if you were
actually trying to understand, lies in the parallelism between the two
sentences:
(1) To Fred Kasner, a Jew, you said: "The Antipode to the Wolfowitzes is
another one of your ilk, Henry Kissinger, who negotiated for Nixon our
defeat in Vietnam."
(2) Thus in a parallel fashion one might say to you, a gentile: ""The
antipode to Hitler is another one of your ilk, Stalin, who ordered the
starvation of millions of Ukranian farmers in the 1930's."
The point: if it is fair for you to compare the misbehavior of a "right
wing" Jew (Wolfowitz) to that of a "left-wing" Jew (Kissinger), while
referring to both as Fred's "ilk," then it would be equally fair for
someone to compare the misbehavior of a "right-wing" gentile (Hitler) to
that of a "left-wing" gentile (Stalin), while referring to both as your
(Hanson's) "ilk."
But, of course, such comparisons are not fair in either case. People
deserve the courtesy of being judged as individuals, rather than being
smeared by comparing them to misbehaving members of their "ilk," as you
put it.
Let me be explicit and personal: do you prefer to be judged on the basis
of your behavior, or on the basis of the misbehavior of other members of
your ilk? And if you prefer the former, why are you so reluctant to
accord to Jews the same treatment that you want for yourself?
--Mitchell Jones}***
[snip]
>
>
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http://www.windweaver.com/emoticon.htm says
:-P .... is "tongue hanging out in anticipation"
> ***{I dare say that he, and lots of others, will have hard feelings when
> they read the sorts of things you have said above, until and unless you
> begin to word such comments in a way that makes it clear you do not
> support the kind of double standard that you seem to be supporting.
> Therefore please clarify: do you believe that people ought to be judged
> as individuals, based on their own, personal behavior, or do you think
> it is legitimate to ignore the facts about an individual and judge him
> solely on the basis of his racial or ethnic background? --MJ}***
Hanson is merely a heckler. By attributing any intelligence other
than primitive cunning to him you overrate him and provide him exactly
what he heckles for.
Bob
--
"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler."
A. Einstein
[repetition of earlier post deleted]
The question on the table for you remains what it was: do you prefer to
be judged on the basis of your behavior, or on the basis of the
misbehavior of others of your kind?
You can continue your refusal to answer that simple question, and
continue to repost irrelevant material, but in doing so you will fool no
one who matters: your answer, stated or not, is that you prefer to be
judged on the basis of your own behavior, rather than on the basis of
the misbehavior of others. Every reasonable, or even halfway reasonable,
member of this group can see that with crystal clarity.
Even worse, you can see it as well. You know that the procedure you are
following is irrational, indefensible, and quite simply wrong. The
proof: if you thought your position was defensible, the obvious counter
would be to respond to my direct question, and cite reasoning in support
of your behavior, rather than ignoring the question and simply reposting
old and irrelevant material.
Anyway, that's all I'm going to say on this topic unless you decide to
respond substantively to the reasoning I've already posted.
--Mitchell Jones}***
What is it exactly in here that prompted your unseemly nervousness?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/fdcfc49e7d3056da
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/3d18d420e6ed8c97
or did this one here motivate you:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
>
[Bob]
> "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler."
> A. Einstein
>
[Matt & "exp(j*pi/2)" to Sponge Bob ]
"That idiotic quote that you attribute to Einstein has about as much
depth as piss on a flat rock, as is virtually everything else that
you have to say."
> Mitchell Jones wrote:
>
> > ***{I dare say that he, and lots of others, will have hard feelings when
> > they read the sorts of things you have said above, until and unless you
> > begin to word such comments in a way that makes it clear you do not
> > support the kind of double standard that you seem to be supporting.
> > Therefore please clarify: do you believe that people ought to be judged
> > as individuals, based on their own, personal behavior, or do you think
> > it is legitimate to ignore the facts about an individual and judge him
> > solely on the basis of his racial or ethnic background? --MJ}***
>
> Hanson is merely a heckler. By attributing any intelligence other
> than primitive cunning to him you overrate him and provide him exactly
> what he heckles for.
***{Hanson has posted some interesting stuff. I particularly liked the
analysis of "peak oil" that he posted several years ago. Of course, I
have no way of knowing whether that was his own, original thinking or
merely something he borrowed without attribution from someone else. In
any case, whether his intellect is limited to "primitive cunning" or
not, his method of judging people needed to be criticized. If he is
smarter than you think, and I suspect that he is, it may influence him
in a beneficial way later on, even if he rejects it now. And even if it
is beyond his grasp, it is a point that may have beneficial effects on
the thinking of others. What person of intelligence, after all, could
look at himself in the mirror without feeling revulsion, knowing that he
is so utterly unfair in his judgments of his fellows? --MJ}***
> Bob
***{You sound like a man having a nervous breakdown, Hanson. All I did
was point out that people should be judged on the basis of their own
behavior, rather than on the basis of the misbehavior of other members
of their racial or ethnic group. What is so threatening about that?
--MJ}***
I did NOT talk about any **racial nor ethnic group**.
I was talking about your ilk --1-- that claims to be a religious group,
(Jewish), when convenient, --2-- that claims to be a racial group when
convenient, (although the last racially pure Israelite disappeared 2KY
ago), and --3-- that claims to be a an ethnic group when convenient,
(despite the fact that Jewish ethnicity has disappeared 2 millennia ago)
or --4-- that claims to be a combo of any of these 3 group attributes
whenever it suits your/their purposes, just like you did right now.
>
I must remind you, as I have posted often, "you Hudios are the most
entertaining ilk their is on the Usenet because you are more easily
crankable then anybody else"... Jewish guilt, Mitch?... is that why?...
Thanks for the laugh... and keep cranking yourself. I love it... ahaha...
ahahaha... ahahanson
Hanson:
> I did NOT talk about any **racial nor ethnic group**.
>
> I was talking about your ilk --1-- that claims to be a religious group,
> (Jewish), when convenient, --2-- that claims to be a racial group when
> convenient, (although the last racially pure Israelite disappeared 2KY
> ago), and --3-- that claims to be a an ethnic group when convenient,
> (despite the fact that Jewish ethnicity has disappeared 2 millennia ago)
> or --4-- that claims to be a combo of any of these 3 group attributes
> whenever it suits your/their purposes, just like you did right now.
***{That's just diversionary hair splitting. Your problem isn't with the
words "racial" or "ethnic." Your problem is that you are caught in a
logical trap of your own making--to wit: you, as an individual, do not
want to be judged on the basis of the misbehavior of other gentiles, yet
you are determined to judge individual Jews on the basis of the
misbehavior of other Jews. Integrity requires that you focus on the
contradiction which that implies, admit that you have been wrong, and
apologize to those whom you have smeared by means of such unfair
tactics.
So what's it going to be: (a) continued diversionary hair splitting,
name calling, and generally bouncing off the walls, while spewing forth
"ahahahahaha!" and gleefully claiming to have "cranked" your opponent,
or (b) the admission of wrongdoing and apology that are the required
first steps on the road back from the brink of psychosis?
It's your call, and it's your future psychological well-being that
depends on how you decide--which means: the only person who will be hurt
if you mess up with be yourself.
To assist you in making the right decision, I'm going to relieve you of
the temptation to do the wrong thing as an act of defiance.
____ _ _ _ _ _
| _ \ | | ___ _ __ | | __ | | | | | |
| |_)| | | / _ \ | '_ \ | |/ / | | | | | |
| __/ | | | (_) | | | | | | < |_| |_| |_|
|_| |_| \___/ |_| |_| |_|\_\ (_) (_) (_)
If you're a good little boy, maybe daddy will check in on you sometime
in the future. If he hears good reports at that time, perhaps he will
condescend to pay attention to you again. :-)
--Mitchell Jones}***