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micky

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Jan 11, 2021, 2:15:12 AM1/11/21
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To save battery, I turned off my bluetooth, and I got a notification on
the cellular startup screen with a red sun and the message "Exposure
Notifications inactive. To use this feature, turn on bluetooth."

I had to google to be reminded of what it meant. It refers to exposure
to covid and since a) I have the app that keeps track of whether I'm
near an infected person, and b) I turned off bluetooth, it complains.

I only go out once or twice a week, soI will leave it off and hope the
reminder re-appears when I'm leaving the house.

----

Also I bought some Basic AAA batteries from Amazon and the mailing label
had in bold fairly large text “Not restricted as per special provision”.
Other things were in the bag too and I'd bought 9V batteries just a few
months ago and there was no such message, so I had to look that up, but
it's definitely because of the batteries. Every 12 batteries came in
its own shrink wrap.

Dean Hoffman

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Jan 11, 2021, 7:01:12 AM1/11/21
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On 1/11/21 7:15 AM, micky wrote:
> To save battery, I turned off my bluetooth, and I got a notification on
> the cellular startup screen with a red sun and the message "Exposure
> Notifications inactive. To use this feature, turn on bluetooth."
>
> I had to google to be reminded of what it meant. It refers to exposure
> to covid and since a) I have the app that keeps track of whether I'm
> near an infected person, and b) I turned off bluetooth, it complains.

How does it know if someone has Covid? What alarm goes off if it
senses
Covid? I can't get that image of the Lost in Space robot out of my
head. DANGER
DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON

Some cut.

Carlos E.R.

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Jan 11, 2021, 8:48:07 AM1/11/21
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On 11/01/2021 07.15, micky wrote:
> To save battery, I turned off my bluetooth, and I got a notification on
> the cellular startup screen with a red sun and the message "Exposure
> Notifications inactive. To use this feature, turn on bluetooth."
>
> I had to google to be reminded of what it meant. It refers to exposure
> to covid and since a) I have the app that keeps track of whether I'm
> near an infected person, and b) I turned off bluetooth, it complains.
>
> I only go out once or twice a week, soI will leave it off and hope the
> reminder re-appears when I'm leaving the house.

No, it will not. How can it know you are leaving home?

I have BT on full time, and I stay most of the time at home. No impact
on battery, I get to bedtime with 2/3 of battery left.

I need BT when I get to the car, and I prefer not forgetting to switch
it on.

> ----
>
> Also I bought some Basic AAA batteries from Amazon and the mailing label
> had in bold fairly large text “Not restricted as per special provision”.
> Other things were in the bag too and I'd bought 9V batteries just a few
> months ago and there was no such message, so I had to look that up, but
> it's definitely because of the batteries. Every 12 batteries came in
> its own shrink wrap.

And what does it mean?


--
Cheers, Carlos.

rbowman

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Jan 11, 2021, 9:54:54 AM1/11/21
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On 01/11/2021 07:15 AM, micky wrote:
> Also I bought some Basic AAA batteries from Amazon and the mailing label
> had in bold fairly large text “Not restricted as per special provision”.
> Other things were in the bag too and I'd bought 9V batteries just a few
> months ago and there was no such message, so I had to look that up, but
> it's definitely because of the batteries. Every 12 batteries came in
> its own shrink wrap.

Some batteries have to be labeled as HazMat. I eventually kept the
laptop but when I was going to return it to Amazon the return label to
be printed out included a red hazmat notification.

micky

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Jan 11, 2021, 10:08:46 AM1/11/21
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In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Jan 2021 14:47:18 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 11/01/2021 07.15, micky wrote:
>> To save battery, I turned off my bluetooth, and I got a notification on
>> the cellular startup screen with a red sun and the message "Exposure
>> Notifications inactive. To use this feature, turn on bluetooth."
>>
>> I had to google to be reminded of what it meant. It refers to exposure
>> to covid and since a) I have the app that keeps track of whether I'm
>> near an infected person, and b) I turned off bluetooth, it complains.
>>
>> I only go out once or twice a week, soI will leave it off and hope the
>> reminder re-appears when I'm leaving the house.
>
>No, it will not. How can it know you are leaving home?

Well it's a little computer. It should know. Google or something
knows everything.

But what I meant was, When I'm leaving the house and I turn the phone on
again, I hope the reminder re-appears.
>
>I have BT on full time, and I stay most of the time at home. No impact
>on battery, I get to bedtime with 2/3 of battery left.
>
>I need BT when I get to the car, and I prefer not forgetting to switch
>it on.

Now I have a reminder. At least if it shows up again.

>> ----
>>
>> Also I bought some Basic AAA batteries from Amazon and the mailing label
>> had in bold fairly large text “Not restricted as per special provision”.
>> Other things were in the bag too and I'd bought 9V batteries just a few
>> months ago and there was no such message, so I had to look that up, but
>> it's definitely because of the batteries. Every 12 batteries came in
>> its own shrink wrap.
>
>And what does it mean?

They need to follow some sort of rules to ship batteries. They must have
been made for Li-ion batteries. I'm not at all convinced they apply to
alkaline batteries or AAA batteries. But even if they do, Amazon solved
any problem by shrink wrapping them in groups of 12 so no + could touch
a - end. Clear, rather stiff shrink wrap. Maybe that's not the right
word.

Arlen Holder

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Jan 11, 2021, 10:49:58 AM1/11/21
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On Mon, 11 Jan 21 07:15:11 UTC, micky wrote:

I'm not cc'ing the HOME REPAIR cesspool, as it is beyond repair:
o <tinyurl.com/alt-home-repair>

Plus, it has seemingly infinite socks to "defend" itself
o Although they're almost always the same set of socks as we see here

All adults on this newsgroup (yes, you too Carlos, act like an adult)
must easily note this "micky" troll is infesting us from his previous haunt
at the Home Repair cesspool, where its goal is, AFAICT, to turn this Android
ng into its own cesspool of infantile garbage.
o <https://i.postimg.cc/902qnHyg/ahr-spam04.jpg> the same trolls
o <https://i.postimg.cc/qvgC9fLQ/ahr-spam03.jpg> the same trolls
o <https://i.postimg.cc/XJCzgdgc/ahr-spam02.jpg> the same trolls
o <https://i.postimg.cc/YSbJgV0C/ahr-spam01.jpg> the same trolls
etc.

In addition, adults will note all the responses to date were from the _same_
trolls (perhaps even the same sock) who infest the a.h.r ng.

I don't bullshit - where I already easily got this "micky" troll kicked
off its Eternal September server (Wolfgang readily agreed it's a troll).

Hence, adults will note this "micky" troll was forced to change servers:
o It's now using "usenet farm" and, at time, Paolo's server, "aioe"

As Ray Banana of Eternal September has banned this "micky" troll
o Which is yet another concrete proof it is a troll infesting this ng


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Subject: Exposure Notifications inactive
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 21 07:15:11 UTC
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See also:
o Please be aware that the "micky" troll has morphed to the "philo" troll
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/31BTh-i6ERQ>

In summary, this "micky" troll is toying with us (AFAICT), by trolling
us with fabricated problem sets, so that we'll waste our time trying
to help it (where all you have to do is ask it for proof, like a
screenshot, and note they haven't ever provided that proof).

Why does it troll?
o I don't know why.

I just know that it does.
o Here are just the requests I sent to ES who agreed it's a troll:
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/ZqfJDrckXlQ> 1st request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/OqmfDmv-rEE> 2nd request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/TImHM2egkaY> 3rd request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/XphN4AkKzFA> 4th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/aPnh6Okku8k> 5th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/vO2WvHzFIVU> 6th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/uP5dZ6Nkbzo> 7th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/ZqfJDrckXlQ> 8th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/XphN4AkKzFA> 9th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/aPnh6Okku8k> 10th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/vO2WvHzFIVU> 11th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/uP5dZ6Nkbzo> 12th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/mvt8sFNsL4A> 13th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/s-wHIpd1Y_A> 14th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/y7kHl6T1ou8> 15th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/owzGhUTzVy8> 16th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/biJijnd396U> 17th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/jBbcZbz1QAc> 18th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/1GseU5suCrU> 19th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/CAqIPuUurCM> 20th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/oYI2T7K7vzc> 21st request
Where Eternal September booted this "micky" troll after that last request.

Here are the requests I sent to its new "Usenet Farm" server admin:
1st request for this "usenet farm" NNTP server:
o Subject: DoD, OMB, still not cooperating.
o URL <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/aSPCi9kDFms>
o Date: Tue, 29 Dec 20 11:16:01 UTC
o From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
o PATH > usenet.farm > highwinds
o Message-Id: <2j3mufh965ice77ep...@4ax.com>

2nd request for this "usenet farm" NNTP server:
o Subject: trump still at it.
o URL <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/PE2vt6TTBK4>
o Date: Sun, 03 Jan 21 23:07:26 UTC
o From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
o PATH > usenet.farm > news.xs4all.nl
o Message-Id: <q9j4vf5223sqb59l1...@4ax.com>

3rd request for this "usenet farm" NNTP server:
o Subject: more goings on in Congress
o URL <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/V8DuHR81y64>
o Date: Sun, 03 Jan 21 14:12:39 UTC
o From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
o PATH > usenet.farm > news.uzoreto.com
o Message-Id: <llg3vf9bag20n2s68...@4ax.com>

Why does it troll?
o I don't know why.

What this "micky" troll is trying to do, I think, is establish
credibilityh that it doesn't _only_ troll, by these fabricated
questions on the Android newsgroup which I refer to as
"credibility trolls".

Notice:
o It spends zero effort in the original post
o It throws up imaginary hurdles to keep the troll going
o It brings in its many socks (all of whom infest the REPAIR ng)
o It never proves anything (not even with a simple screenshot)
o It wastes our valuable time (which is time not spent helping others)
--
If we allow the HOME REPAIR trolls to infest this Android newsgroup,
it will be turned into the same cesspool that they thrive in.

Fred

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Jan 11, 2021, 11:19:18 AM1/11/21
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"Dean Hoffman" <deanh...@clod.com> wrote in message
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> On 1/11/21 7:15 AM, micky wrote:
>> To save battery, I turned off my bluetooth, and I got a notification on
>> the cellular startup screen with a red sun and the message "Exposure
>> Notifications inactive. To use this feature, turn on bluetooth."
>>
>> I had to google to be reminded of what it meant. It refers to exposure
>> to covid and since a) I have the app that keeps track of whether I'm
>> near an infected person, and b) I turned off bluetooth, it complains.

> How does it know if someone has Covid?

It gets told that they tested positive.

> What alarm goes off if it senses Covid?

It doesn’t work like that.

Rod Speed

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Jan 11, 2021, 11:24:22 AM1/11/21
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"Carlos E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote in message
news:6g1uch-...@Telcontar.valinor...
> On 11/01/2021 07.15, micky wrote:
>> To save battery, I turned off my bluetooth, and I got a notification on
>> the cellular startup screen with a red sun and the message "Exposure
>> Notifications inactive. To use this feature, turn on bluetooth."
>>
>> I had to google to be reminded of what it meant. It refers to exposure
>> to covid and since a) I have the app that keeps track of whether I'm
>> near an infected person, and b) I turned off bluetooth, it complains.
>>
>> I only go out once or twice a week, soI will leave it off and hope the
>> reminder re-appears when I'm leaving the house.

> No, it will not. How can it know you are leaving home?

Any decent smartphone knows that with the gps.

> I have BT on full time, and I stay most of the time at home.
> No impact on battery, I get to bedtime with 2/3 of battery left.

But that varys with the phone, some do much worse than that.

VanguardLH

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Jan 11, 2021, 11:52:27 AM1/11/21
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micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:

> To save battery, I turned off my bluetooth, and I got a notification on
> the cellular startup screen with a red sun and the message "Exposure
> Notifications inactive. To use this feature, turn on bluetooth."
>
> I had to google to be reminded of what it meant. It refers to exposure
> to covid and since a) I have the app that keeps track of whether I'm
> near an infected person, and b) I turned off bluetooth, it complains.
>
> I only go out once or twice a week, soI will leave it off and hope the
> reminder re-appears when I'm leaving the house.

You installed a [Covid] contact tracking app. Those are used to record
when your phone has been near another phone for some minimal amount of
time, like 5 minutes. It doesn't track when YOU have been close to
someone else for that long. It tracks when the phones were near each
other, like on side tables on a charger alongside beds in separate
apartments across a common wall. The pretense was when the phones are
near then so are the people using those phones, but that is incorrect.
They might help, but only if widely adopted, and the adoption rate has
been dismal in countries where users are not mandated by law to use
them.

Those apps do NOT identify you were near an infected person. After
testing positive, a user gets a code from a medical authority which is
then used to alert other phones that tracked you were close to them.
Sending the alert is voluntary, especially since sending an alert lets
the servers track who sent an alert to know who is infected, and is
outside the purview of, say, a hospital that is supposed to keep your
records private. Just because someone else's phone tracked your phone,
and that someone else got infected, does NOT mandate that you get an
alert you were close to them (and within the incubation period since
ancient contacts are worthless).

Since Bluetooth pinging to find other nearby Bluetooth devices is how
these tracking apps work, it's no surprise that the tracking app you
installed complains that you disabled Bluetooth.

If you leave Bluetooth disabled, you'll only get the notification from
the tracking app when it loads. You leaving the house does somehow
magically reload the app. YOU will have to remember to reenable
Bluetooth when you leave home. Unless you live in an apartment, condo,
or other dwelling that has shared walls or live where you are in very
close proximity to others (to eliminate false tracking with those you do
not have contact since there were walls between you), why turn off
Bluetooth unless you're concerned about your old Android's Bluetooth
vulnerabilities?

Someone mentioned the app might use GPS. Apparently that responder
doesn't realize that GPS is not always accessible. It can get blocked:
metal studs, file cabinets, concrete, refrigerators, plaster (not
sheetrock), water, brick, and other objects along with RF interference
can block the GPS signal. How would the app know when you entered and
exited your car since while you are in the car then you aren't exposed
to others (just like walls in an apartment mean you are not exposed
despite your phone's Bluetooth can reach another phone's Bluetooth)?
The app would have to monitor for a rate of change in GPS that would
represent the speed of travel for a car, like greater than 30 miles per
hour, but then the app falsely tracks other Bluetooth phones when you're
stuck at a stoplight or rush-hour traffic for many minutes.

Then you might want to consider how paranoid you are regarding the
vulnerabilities of leaving Bluetooth enabled all the time, even when you
are moving around outside your home. Does the promise however slight of
getting notified you might be infected (and have to pay for testing if
not covered by health insurance) outweigh the possibility of getting
hacked via Bluetooth? You won't get a latter version of Bluetooth (5.1)
unless your phone maker supplies an OS update. After a phone is no
longer supported, the OS updates disappear (unless you get a Google
phone). You won't get a new version of Bluetooth until you get a newer
version of the OS (well, maybe if you root your phone than you can
decide when to update the BT stack).

https://www.google.com/search?q=bluetooth%20vulnerability

VanguardLH

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Jan 11, 2021, 12:09:18 PM1/11/21
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micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:

> Also I bought some Basic AAA batteries from Amazon and the mailing
> label had in bold fairly large text “Not restricted as per special
> provision”. Other things were in the bag too and I'd bought 9V
> batteries just a few months ago and there was no such message, so I
> had to look that up, but it's definitely because of the batteries.
> Every 12 batteries came in its own shrink wrap.

The warning may be due to shipping restrictions on certain types of
batteries. Lead-acid batteries sold without the electrolyte (sulfuric
acid) should be shippable, but not if the electrolyte was added.
Sulfuric acid requires special hazard shipping requirements. Shipping
of hazardous materials costs extra and requires special handling. Since
the "provision" wasn't mention, no idea what might be the provision,
regulation, shipping restriction, or whatever.

In my area, alkaline batteries can be disposed of in your regular trash
disposal. Same for other "disposable" batteries, except those using
mercury which is poisonous. The recyclable content is very low, and
they are not a fire hazard (but I'd still put tape on one end). Lithium
batteries are poisonous, so they must be dumped at a hazardous disposal
facility. NiCads contain lead, so they are poisonous, so also require
special disposal. MiMH and, in general, rechargeable batteries require
special disposal. You need to check what are the rules in your area.

I put tape across the contacts, and store up the old NiCd, NiMH, and
lithium batteries (don't use mercury batteries) to take them in as a
bunch to the local hazard disposal facility. Cost is $10 per trip, so I
stow up a lot before making the trip (10 miles away, but I can combine
with trips to grocery, hardware, and other stores). Some hardware
stores (e.g., Home Depot via Call2Recycle bins) have disposal service.
There may be local rechargeable recycling drop-offs in your area.

If the battery says "Battery Must Be Recycled" or has a recycle icon,
they require special disposal.

Peeler

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Jan 11, 2021, 1:07:17 PM1/11/21
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 03:19:10 +1100, Fred, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

<FLUSH the abnormal sleepless trolling senile asshole's latest trollshit>

--
Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot:
"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID: <XnsA97071CF43...@85.214.115.223>

Peeler

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Piet

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Jan 11, 2021, 1:40:35 PM1/11/21
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VanguardLH wrote:
> The pretense was when the phones are
> near then so are the people using those phones, but that is incorrect.
> They might help, but only if widely adopted, and the adoption rate has
> been dismal in countries where users are not mandated by law to use
> them.

Which countries mandate people by law to buy and use a smartphone?

-p

Arlen Holder

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Jan 11, 2021, 2:16:58 PM1/11/21
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 06:01:10 -0600, Dean Hoffman wrote:

> DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON

Facts for the _adults_ on the Android newsgroup
o And for Carlos, who constantly willingly feeds these obvious trolls

These are just a few of the _recent_ infantile off-topic political threads
o By this "Dean Hoffman" troll sock on a "repair" newsgroup (for God's sake)

Do you want these trolls to infest the Android newsgroup?
o Then do exactly as Carlos & you'll get the same cesspool that is a.h.r

FACTS
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Subject: OT. Russian?? Hackers
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: OT. One crook identified.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 07:22:33 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: Capitol Police Don't Look Good
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 05:21:40 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: OT. Canada is Sloooow. Covid Vaccinations
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 20:05:33 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: Dirty Jobs. Season 4, Episode 9
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 13:40:17 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: OT. New Year's Day College Football
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:19:38 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: OT. Hospital Ships. Where Are They?
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 07:35:03 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: OT. Koolaid With a TV Dinner???
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 10:58:01 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: OT. SNL Christmas Morning
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:28:29 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: OT. Russian?? Hackers
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 18:32:38 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: OT. Charlie Pride was 86
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 20:13:49 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: OT. Bureaucrat thinking. Wrestling in Ohio
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 09:10:17 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: And yet another lawsuit. Wisconsin.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 07:26:02 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT. Supreme Court Tosses Case
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 18:02:03 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: Arizona Back in Court?
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:37:23 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: OT. Jeopardy and Flywheel
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 08:30:25 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: OT. Chuck Yeager was 97
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 05:03:26 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT. Texas Suing Four Other States
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 15:17:09 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT. Breakdancing at the Olympics
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 07:40:30 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT. Pearl Harbor Day
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 17:49:04 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT. Dillion Catalogue $300 Million??
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 15:36:34 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT. Spanish Flu. Lockdowns and Masks.
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 09:57:22 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Riverside County Sheriff Says NO
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 21:22:15 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT. College Football
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:12:20 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT. Pennsylvania Legislature Steps In
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 19:53:18 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT Wedding Deposit Goes to Thanksgiving Dinner
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 10:35:43 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Food Shortage?????
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 06:16:20 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT. Amazon Scam
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 15:28:50 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT. Food Optional. Grocery Stores Closing
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:07:16 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Shots to Fly??
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 12:32:50 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: A Third Effective Vaccine
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 12:23:51 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT. >6 or talk to a cop. Oregon
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 04:46:06 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Flawed Covid Tests in Maryand
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 12:46:44 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT. "Has Anybody here seen..........
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 08:45:48 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT. Trump's Lawyer, Sidney Powell
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 16:19:34 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: An actual miscount in Georgia
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 14:12:58 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT. Hacked voting machines? NBC report from
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 07:35:38 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: Sandhills Ground for Sale
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 18:58:05 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: OT. Independent Mechanics Shops?
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 09:53:43 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT. "It Never Rains in Southern California"
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 07:38:33 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT,. VETERANS DAY
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 06:43:37 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: OT. Alex Trebek was 80.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 12:34:02 -0600
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From: Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
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Subject: OT. Football Announcers
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 13:49:55 -0600
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o Then do exactly as Carlos & you'll get the same cesspool that is a.h.r

Carlos E.R.

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On 11/01/2021 17.24, Rod Speed wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote in message
> news:6g1uch-...@Telcontar.valinor...
>> On 11/01/2021 07.15, micky wrote:
>>> To save battery, I turned off my bluetooth, and I got a notification on
>>> the cellular startup screen with a red sun and the message "Exposure
>>> Notifications inactive.  To use this feature, turn on bluetooth."
>>>
>>> I had to google to be reminded of what it meant.  It refers to exposure
>>> to covid and since a) I have the app that keeps track of whether I'm
>>> near an infected person, and b) I turned off bluetooth, it complains.
>>>
>>> I only go out once or twice a week, soI will leave it off and hope the
>>> reminder re-appears when I'm leaving the house.
>
>> No, it will not. How can it know you are leaving home?
>
> Any decent smartphone knows that with the gps.

Which doesn't work inside my house. Google maps history always ask me to
confirm that I'm home, it never knows.

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Carlos E.R.

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On 11/01/2021 15.08, micky wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Jan 2021 14:47:18 +0100, "Carlos E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 11/01/2021 07.15, micky wrote:
>>> To save battery, I turned off my bluetooth, and I got a notification on
>>> the cellular startup screen with a red sun and the message "Exposure
>>> Notifications inactive. To use this feature, turn on bluetooth."
>>>
>>> I had to google to be reminded of what it meant. It refers to exposure
>>> to covid and since a) I have the app that keeps track of whether I'm
>>> near an infected person, and b) I turned off bluetooth, it complains.
>>>
>>> I only go out once or twice a week, soI will leave it off and hope the
>>> reminder re-appears when I'm leaving the house.
>>
>> No, it will not. How can it know you are leaving home?
>
> Well it's a little computer. It should know. Google or something
> knows everything.
>
> But what I meant was, When I'm leaving the house and I turn the phone on
> again, I hope the reminder re-appears.

Ah, ok. I don't know, my phone is on full time.


>> I have BT on full time, and I stay most of the time at home. No impact
>> on battery, I get to bedtime with 2/3 of battery left.
>>
>> I need BT when I get to the car, and I prefer not forgetting to switch
>> it on.
>
> Now I have a reminder. At least if it shows up again.
>
>>> ----
>>>
>>> Also I bought some Basic AAA batteries from Amazon and the mailing label
>>> had in bold fairly large text “Not restricted as per special provision”.
>>> Other things were in the bag too and I'd bought 9V batteries just a few
>>> months ago and there was no such message, so I had to look that up, but
>>> it's definitely because of the batteries. Every 12 batteries came in
>>> its own shrink wrap.
>>
>> And what does it mean?
>
> They need to follow some sort of rules to ship batteries. They must have
> been made for Li-ion batteries. I'm not at all convinced they apply to
> alkaline batteries or AAA batteries. But even if they do, Amazon solved
> any problem by shrink wrapping them in groups of 12 so no + could touch
> a - end. Clear, rather stiff shrink wrap. Maybe that's not the right
> word.

Ah.

I know there is a regulation for liquid acid batteries. New rechargeable
batteries have some risk of fire. But plain "basic AAA" batteries :-?
Maybe they stuck the label "just in case".

Certainly, if you short the ends of any battery there is a risk of fire.

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Carlos E.R.

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The mandate is to use the covid tracing app, in some countries, if you
have a phone.


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Frank Slootweg

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micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:

> Newsgroups: alt.home.repair,comp.mobile.android

micky, don't be a nuisance by posting on-topic (in this case in
comp.mobile.android) stuff to unrelated groups (in this case
alt.home.repair).

alt.home.repair has been destroyed a long time ago, but that's no
excuse to crosspost on-topic stuff from other groups to it.

If you want people to see your on-topic posts, then stop this abuse.

[Crosspost filter changed to include comp.mobile.android.]

[...]

Arlen Holder

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On 11 Jan 2021 20:40:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

> micky, don't be a nuisance by posting on-topic (in this case in
> comp.mobile.android) stuff to unrelated groups (in this case
> alt.home.repair).
>
> alt.home.repair has been destroyed a long time ago, but that's no
> excuse to crosspost on-topic stuff from other groups to it.
>
> If you want people to see your on-topic posts, then stop this abuse.

Frank,

I'm trying to save this newsgroup from becoming the cesspool these
infantile political trolls have turned other newsgroups into.
o I need your help. We all need your help. And that of Carlos too.

The entire set of trolls who posted to this thread, other than you, me,
and, unfortunately, Carlos (who is clearly too stupid to know better),
are well-known trolls who turned the a.h.r newsgroup into a cesspool.

It already was booted off of Wolfang's Eternal September server weeks ago
o And Paolo gave it a time out (I'm not sure how long though)

Now it's posting its "micky" account from "usenet.farm"
o I haven't gotten their server admin to boot him yet.

As you are well aware, this "micky" is attempting to destroy this ng
o It doesn't care one bit about its fabricated problem set

It's simply trying to establish a "credibility" so that it can't be accused
of _always_ trolling (which it did until I got it booted from its servers).

I don't think anything you say or do will stop this "micky" troll
o And its many socks who already responded to this thread (surprise not)

You may chastise this "micky" but it already told us it has a God-given
right to troll (it told us to "fuck off" when we asked it to stop).

Don't believe me Frank? Look here:
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/ZqfJDrckXlQ> 1st request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/OqmfDmv-rEE> 2nd request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/TImHM2egkaY> 3rd request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/XphN4AkKzFA> 4th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/aPnh6Okku8k> 5th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/vO2WvHzFIVU> 6th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/uP5dZ6Nkbzo> 7th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/ZqfJDrckXlQ> 8th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/XphN4AkKzFA> 9th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/aPnh6Okku8k> 10th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/vO2WvHzFIVU> 11th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/uP5dZ6Nkbzo> 12th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/mvt8sFNsL4A> 13th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/s-wHIpd1Y_A> 14th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/y7kHl6T1ou8> 15th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/owzGhUTzVy8> 16th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/biJijnd396U> 17th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/jBbcZbz1QAc> 18th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/1GseU5suCrU> 19th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/CAqIPuUurCM> 20th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/oYI2T7K7vzc> 21st request

It took that many requests for Ray Banana to boot it off ES
o How many will Usenet Farm take?

I don't know.

Why does it troll?
o I don't know.

But what I do know, is that it will never stop.
o The only way to stop it, AFAIK, is to complain to its server admin.

You know that better than anyone, Frank.
o As you used to run your own NNTP server.
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infantile political trolls have turned other newsgroups into.

Piet

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Which countries? Certainly not in the EU:
https://officialblogofunio.com/2020/10/20/the-mandatory-contact-tracing-app-stayaway-covid-a-matter-of-european-union-law/

Also, your addition "if you have a phone" falls short. At least it
should be "if you have a suitable smartphone". And even then I don't
see how it could be mandatory to:
- always carry the phone with you
- leave it on permanently
Even a "having a smartphone" requirement can be a serious showstopper.
According to the Dutch Bureau of Statistics, in 2019 (no later figures
available yet) 48% (!) of 75+ people didn't have a smartphone. And then
we're talking about the category most susceptible to the most serious
consequences fo covid-19.

-p

Carlos E.R.

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On 11/01/2021 22.17, Piet wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 11/01/2021 19.40, Piet wrote:
>>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>>> The pretense was when the phones are
>>>> near then so are the people using those phones, but that is incorrect.
>>>> They might help, but only if widely adopted, and the adoption rate has
>>>> been dismal in countries where users are not mandated by law to use
>>>> them.
>>>
>>> Which countries mandate people by law to buy and use a smartphone?
>>
>> The mandate is to use the covid tracing app, in some countries,
>> if you have a phone.
>
> Which countries? Certainly not in the EU:

I never said it was on the EU.

I think it is China and some other Asian countries. Perhaps some Arabic
countries too. I don't know for sure.

> https://officialblogofunio.com/2020/10/20/the-mandatory-contact-tracing-app-stayaway-covid-a-matter-of-european-union-law/
>
> Also, your addition "if you have a phone" falls short. At least it
> should be "if you have a suitable smartphone". And even then I don't
> see how it could be mandatory to:
> - always carry the phone with you
> - leave it on permanently
> Even a "having a smartphone" requirement can be a serious showstopper.
> According to the Dutch Bureau of Statistics, in 2019 (no later figures
> available yet) 48% (!) of 75+ people didn't have a smartphone. And then
> we're talking about the category most susceptible to the most serious
> consequences fo covid-19.

Whatever. In any case, in those countries where it is mandatory the
usage of the app is very high and it is effective.


--
Cheers, Carlos.

Arlen Holder

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On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 03:19:10 +1100, Fred wrote:

We need to save this ng from infestation of the infantile trolls.

Why does the Fred troll?
o I have no idea

All I know is that it does.
o <https://i.postimg.cc/QtrSTg2M/fred.jpg>

That's a screen from today of the cesspool it turned a.h.r into
o And, clearly, the cesspool it wants to turn c.m.a into (AFAICT)

Lest anyone on the Android ng be fooled, this "Fred" is a well known troll which,
along with the rest that responded, has turned the REPAIR newsgroup
into the cesspool of its brand of infantile politics.

Don't believe me?
o Want proof?

Look at just the recent posts from this "Fred" infantile political sock:
*** *** ***
From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT impeached twice
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 03:29:37 +1100
Message-ID: <i63cnn...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net H38wgIWY6golm93PO8/4+w6oDP4tlv1+GPwyixAH//IwFIeYM=
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Trump Did It?? Maybe Not.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 12:38:25 +1100
Message-ID: <i61ogo...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net k+nmevjic84cx0mqg4EYrAGlGHCFlECbQI7LqUM6H9luglyVc=
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT 10 days vs. 8.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 09:34:48 +1100
Message-ID: <i61doe...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net gQTOXG7/9zRlG9fZ7m4nRgCbQKbqduzIX+y92CQFgMrEAP6r4=
*** *** ***
From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop,alt.home.repair,uk.d-i-y
Subject: Re: OT: Go outside and enjoy nature!
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 05:52:34 +1100
Message-ID: <i610no...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net WyKn5sNDFlQpw62Hyjog0A3LUWwoaBIksfN2tBWcit0LkFIPs=
*** *** ***
From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: The sick politics at the heart of this week's US crisis go deeper than Donald Trump (report from an Australian news link)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 04:16:07 +1100
Message-ID: <i60r2t...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net bLMB+QLP3zrTycRsMfxlnQYeOPTsdBpmCudddLtwVyK1dRpA0=
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: The Rudest Christmas Song Ever ...? :-)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:29:07 +1100
Message-ID: <i5vomc...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net Sp1dqoXk16hrFy9Z5bdeWwM5L7tL7VKVTUtNhMa3nJUhiYKZs=
*** *** ***
From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: How soon we forget
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:24:49 +1100
Message-ID: <i5voe9...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net X3cv87coJtRkq/EDweIkQw/OJGwmL2cVmM3bnnlI7H+gQIJgU=
*** *** ***
From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT: A very sad sign that the GOP still has not learned
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 13:00:21 +1100
Message-ID: <i5v5dt...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net 1zAHCtRBfRIHHMzA5+eG0wEY6F6eXFkRBnW3rQEia6rqpxpok=
*** *** ***
From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: And now, Impeachment, and trumps twitter account permanently canceled.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 12:53:05 +1100
Message-ID: <i5v508...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net 0spQRYX3O2/CkNcbkROLJgXDm/nw7gGQde3xBnj9SZQa/cBz0=
*** *** ***
From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT. One crook identified.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 07:42:46 +1100
Message-ID: <i5uiqd...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net dSdkujY5H5lp3E6rJQ85/APuYZlNgap+ohRnBtVoBVCo/Rq/8=
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Problems with 25th Amendment
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 07:17:18 +1100
Message-ID: <i5uhal...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net qVwG/zP+8bBfYIYqxwNiUwm5ns4p0chy7+NTrteXJ11hFufn4=
*** *** ***
From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT::Very Healthy 56-Year-Old; Dies after Being Injected with the Experimental Pfizer COVID Vaccine
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 19:08:40 +1100
Message-ID: <i5qi8h...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net 4EvUv5QNh1BqDuJpF8fI4QIef02gJnkdzvD9T+Cbw1BNCYli0=
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Covid now killing young folk
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 04:53:45 +1100
Message-ID: <i5p05f...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net vOWkJ7bnM9x94jC3SLEAsQFPRoqYO917+7HxwySBhQnuZowVQ=
*** *** ***
From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: America at it worst
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 13:09:49 +1100
Message-ID: <i5n8rl...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net LWzJprw74obqyVigzKFDLQ6sIsl9pyx25foW+8Fb9Z4SHdx3M=
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT paraphaising, I got along petty good with North Korea
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:58:40 +1100
Message-ID: <i5mtl7...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net wL7TToHczffMyifjZC6+HQM2QFKxucqDRbvjB5lxPhCKMtxso=
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: elections in flux
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 05:50:42 +1100
Message-ID: <i5mf48...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net X/5cvklbIp1QdJIXb23T9gCx0IWoKcJxWz8MHVxxksj1m13ZU=
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT: Yipee! Democrats win control of Senate!
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 05:45:57 +1100
Message-ID: <i5merb...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net 7eYfdCy+2MBPxzED+se9AwI3idQi1KzB8d+GEhbEGykxzwNkU=
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Trump rally speaker encourages supporters to .hug it out・ and create .mass spreader・ coronavirus event
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 05:39:46 +1100
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X-Trace: individual.net ddnhc1SHZBE1LbpU+2MCPQb18dSlFKR7EW6ylkaf5zzZqgxiM=
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: My humble opinion (for what it's worth)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 04:00:32 +1100
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X-Trace: individual.net 7qDfS0r+pQCVUeqSxGziMAE4+HhnQxKWHwIpmptWwlvMbZQ7c=
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: This must frost your balls
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:41:18 +1100
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Eureka! Brexit settled......at last.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 08:28:07 +1100
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: California hospitals are struggling to cope, appealing for nurses to come and help from other countries
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 08:20:58 +1100
Message-ID: <i4kf21...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net 1+84P0AdED5W2Uh4nIFNdQvjJT6c+z9Eo7Ljp7awNpphG58S4=
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: 36,000 Australians still unable to return to Australia,
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 07:10:17 +1100
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Australian lamb returns after 7 years.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 02:00:02 +1100
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Coronavirus US: America on .deadliest stretch・ in history as death toll exceeds 2500 for third day
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 04:58:24 +1100
Message-ID: <i2vbm6...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net WJxJTf1m1bvd/OtCyB0mwwqcjMGVMY5ECYyNjoU3VFl2gmHZU=
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: COVID-19: US facing 'most difficult health crisis in its history' as it records highest daily death toll yet
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 07:03:38 +1100
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT: USA annual death rate
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 09:53:17 +1100
Message-ID: <i0tvj5...@mid.individual.net>
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Donald Trump's chief of staff, Mark Meadows, tests positive to COVID-19
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 09:46:45 +1100
Message-ID: <i0tv6t...@mid.individual.net>
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Rod Blagojevich: Democrats Committing Widespread Voter Fraud, Never Seen It On Such A Magnitude
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 06:53:16 +1100
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Donald Trump・s chief of staff, Mark Meadows, tests positive to COVID-19
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 04:50:01 +1100
Message-ID: <i0o52g...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net obLcdHdmmZupk8fg6O0NYwIlnQTxnXq42kI368rt/6IKgHJbU=
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Clothing and politics
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 04:28:39 +1100
Message-ID: <i0o3qd...@mid.individual.net>
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Presidential Race Concession
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 17:43:01 +1100
Message-ID: <i0mtvt...@mid.individual.net>
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT: the December Impeachment
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 17:12:43 +1100
Message-ID: <i0ms73...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net F5f141lkZi8tQO6NtnSs+Qc21jKIxe1w3dXBXSB4pA1c8hpIQ=
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Joe Biden is leading in Pa. By 5587 votes.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 10:13:00 +1100
Message-ID: <i0m3k4...@mid.individual.net>
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT: Why are Americans so slow at counting votes?
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 06:10:31 +1100
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From: Fred <hju...@hotnail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Republicans distance themselves from Donald Trump
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 06:04:16 +1100
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X-Trace: individual.net ywtTzftrxsLqp3a30zR2QQyDLHfUDOn8RN0Gs6vNNJv0eDlco=
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Why does the Fred troll troll?
o I don't know why.

I just know that it does.
o Let it dispute those facts above, which even Carlos can verify himself.
--
If you want to save this Android newsgroup, realize these facts above.

Arlen Holder

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On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 03:24:13 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

> decent smartphone knows th

I hope this Android newsgroup is intelligent enough to know this "Rod
Speed" is an infamous troll of _many_ newsgroups (along with Snit).

For decades...

Only Carlos may need to be told this information, so that's why I say it.
o I won't even bother to list the zillions of trolls from this Rod Speed.
--
If we respond to these trolls like Carlos is constantly doing because he's
too stupid to know better, we are simply turning the Android newsgroup into
the cesspool it has already turned other ngs into.

Carlos E.R.

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On 11/01/2021 22.57, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 03:24:13 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> decent smartphone knows th
>
> I hope this Android newsgroup is intelligent enough to know this "Rod
> Speed" is an infamous troll of _many_ newsgroups (along with Snit).
>
> For decades...
>
> Only Carlos may need to be told this information, so that's why I say it.
> o I won't even bother to list the zillions of trolls from this Rod Speed.
>

Don't be infantile, Arlen. Everybody is ignoring you or killfilled you.
Nothing you say about somebody being a troll is taken seriously by
anybody - even if they happen to be a troll.

Plonk.

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Cheers, Carlos.

Arlen Holder

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On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 07:55:22 -0700, rbowman wrote:

I hope it's obvious by now to all but Carlos that this "rbowman" is a troll

This is a screenshot, taken just now, of the cesspool it turned a.h.r into:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/nzXjnMVG/rbowman.jpg>

These are the cesspool of threads it feeds constantly, none on topic:
o All of it is the _same_ infantile politics of all the rest

Why does this "rbowman" troll troll?
o I don't know why.

I just can easily prove that it does - a lot.
o If people like Carlos allow this - the Android ng will be a cesspool soon

*=* *=* *=*
From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT. 60 Minutes and Nancy P.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 22:32:03 -0700
Message-ID: <i6265l...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net v+ffA4zJbV6fnNQ/IGtTGQYXiujt4dkE0qn5l8cJYahIg4g9ky

On 01/10/2021 06:30 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
*=* *=* *=*
From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Trump Did It?? Maybe Not.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 17:57:06 -0700
Message-ID: <i61m24...@mid.individual.net>
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On 01/10/2021 03:35 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
*=* *=* *=*
From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT 10 days vs. 8.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:09:19 -0700
Message-ID: <i618n1...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net dyeMsKJo56w/XbNkeUxFMgs1vdsv8CZqE9s4dOn5Ur/BkscjsY

On 01/10/2021 11:19 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
*=* *=* *=*
From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop,alt.home.repair,uk.d-i-y
Subject: Re: OT: Go outside and enjoy nature!
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:07:19 -0700
Message-ID: <i618jb...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net fIILEZBY/JblNnBBV6x0ywG28ULUOwquCcu/uIF8E7nz7w5gWO

On 01/10/2021 11:11 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
*=* *=* *=*
From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: And now, Impeachment, and trumps twitter account permanently canceled.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 13:01:22 -0700
Message-ID: <i5ugbl...@mid.individual.net>
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On 01/09/2021 06:56 AM, Vic Smith wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Most COVID-19 patients have at least one symptom 6 months on: study?
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 12:42:21 -0700
Message-ID: <i5uf80...@mid.individual.net>
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On 01/09/2021 10:04 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
*=* *=* *=*
From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT: A very sad sign that the GOP still has not learned
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 12:37:17 -0700
Message-ID: <i5ueuh...@mid.individual.net>
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On 01/09/2021 11:35 AM, Vic Smith wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT: California Has the Strictest Lockdown in the USĄXand the Most Active COVID Cases (by Far)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 12:31:28 -0700
Message-ID: <i5ueji...@mid.individual.net>
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On 01/09/2021 10:57 AM, Frank wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: How soon we forget
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 19:29:07 -0700
Message-ID: <i5simm...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net 0wkstHwoy03xbpeTW4UdGgpxr6K//J5b11cVnz5FcOBtFCaC7m

On 01/08/2021 04:08 PM, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
*=* *=* *=*
From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT: Antifa did it!
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 19:25:11 -0700
Message-ID: <i5sifb...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net 758/o3z7yGJVKnDWrvyGnwm8Z/mPudXE8V5ZkiZcgv54IdBHVk

On 01/08/2021 09:26 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
*=* *=* *=*
From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT. Bomb Maker Suspect
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 19:21:37 -0700
Message-ID: <i5si8l...@mid.individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net 1AkHunPNcblrECnE4XLrbgIZOysDWQr4gWlXLbQCS4cOp4l65q

On 01/08/2021 07:53 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT. One crook identified.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 19:14:25 -0700
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On 01/08/2021 10:45 AM, Frank wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Problems with 25th Amendment
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 19:04:52 -0700
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On 01/08/2021 08:10 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Capitol Police Don't Look Good
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 07:57:23 -0700
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On 01/07/2021 12:50 PM, micky wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT Just imagine
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 07:43:40 -0700
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On 01/07/2021 12:04 PM, micky wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT: Yipee! Democrats win control of Senate!
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 22:46:23 -0700
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On 01/06/2021 09:56 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: America at it worst
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 19:01:30 -0700
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On 01/06/2021 02:26 PM, Heywood wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT: Full List: 77 Representatives, 13 Senators Pledge to Object to Electoral Votes
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 18:44:57 -0700
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On 01/06/2021 10:58 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: elections in flux
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:44:12 -0700
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On 01/05/2021 09:40 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT. Canada is Sloooow. Covid Vaccinations
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:39:41 -0700
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On 01/05/2021 07:05 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Sweden crisis worsens after its anti-lockdown stance proven a failure
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 10:39:57 -0700
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On 01/03/2021 07:59 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: This must frost your balls
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 10:34:43 -0700
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On 01/03/2021 05:35 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT 2 hours debate total or 2x4
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 16:36:35 -0700
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On 01/01/2021 02:37 PM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT. Hospital Ships. Where Are They?
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 16:24:02 -0700
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On 01/01/2021 06:35 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Don't like posting politcal items, but enuf is enuf
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 22:07:11 -0700
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On 12/31/2020 08:24 PM, AK wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT. Koolaid With a TV Dinner???
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 11:50:03 -0700
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On 12/29/2020 09:58 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Vaccine distribution was Government screw up
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:36:14 -0700
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On 12/27/2020 01:26 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: If face masks really stop Covid, then why are so many of us still catching it?
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:29:59 -0700
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On 12/24/2020 04:50 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Could Trump sink any lower in his shamelessness!
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 19:44:16 -0700
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On 12/23/2020 01:12 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT Trump may veto stimulus bill
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 22:19:14 -0700
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On 12/22/2020 08:50 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT: Karl Rove: Trump full of baloney, no election fraud
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 19:10:25 -0700
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On 12/22/2020 11:07 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Info about protecting your home from democrats...
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 08:10:03 -0700
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On 12/22/2020 06:47 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Vaccine delivery
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 07:42:08 -0700
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On 12/22/2020 06:36 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Another hypocritical dictator democrat caught...
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 19:49:13 -0700
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On 12/21/2020 11:29 AM, Frank wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Now coffin, was Re: Average flu deaths per year in the US v Covid 19 cases so far this year
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 19:39:57 -0700
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On 12/21/2020 05:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Cayman Islands --You should take quarantines seriously
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 22:47:14 -0700
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On 12/20/2020 09:17 PM, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT What if trump refuses to leave?
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 11:38:59 -0700
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On 12/19/2020 09:13 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Pentagon halts Biden transition briefings
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 11:37:43 -0700
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On 12/19/2020 04:56 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Trump is conspicuously absent from the list of public figures getting a coronavirus vaccine soon
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 11:35:46 -0700
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On 12/19/2020 09:18 AM, Muggles wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT States getting less vaccine than they were told
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 19:21:49 -0700
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On 12/18/2020 06:56 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Florida woman, a dog, and a 'coon
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 19:58:07 -0700
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On 12/17/2020 12:21 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Nothing has changed, Archie Bunker
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 19:45:35 -0700
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On 12/17/2020 09:40 AM, Roger Oveur wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT. Russian?? Hackers
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 19:43:03 -0700
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On 12/17/2020 06:30 PM, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Houston doctor says half of the nurses in his unit don't want COVID-19 vaccine for political reasons
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 07:50:02 -0700
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On 12/17/2020 07:19 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Suicide War or Flee (Final Trump Options)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 18:34:27 -0700
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On 12/14/2020 04:57 PM, Shadow wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Bicycle tricks
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 19:42:34 -0700
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On 12/13/2020 03:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: And yet another lawsuit. Wisconsin.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 10:07:16 -0700
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On 12/13/2020 05:52 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Not a single UK constituency would vote for Donald Trump: Poll
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 17:03:06 -0700
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On 12/12/2020 01:31 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT. Bureaucrat thinking. Wrestling in Ohio
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 10:33:34 -0700
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On 12/12/2020 08:36 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Fwd: Vaccine scam
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 07:49:26 -0700
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On 12/11/2020 02:06 AM, micky wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: DIY corona testing
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 21:16:39 -0700
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On 12/10/2020 07:31 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Faucivirus-19 -- In on Sunday, Out by Wednesday
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 21:14:47 -0700
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On 12/10/2020 11:01 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT. Texas Suing Four Other States
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 20:26:50 -0700
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On 12/10/2020 02:00 PM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: BREAKING. Eight More States Join the Texas SCOTUS Case
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 07:57:10 -0700
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On 12/10/2020 07:24 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop,alt.home.repair,uk.d-i-y
Subject: Re: OT: They're coming....
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 18:44:31 -0700
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On 12/09/2020 10:54 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop,alt.home.repair,uk.d-i-y
Subject: Re: Arecibo has collapsed, RIP
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 07:54:30 -0700
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On 12/09/2020 01:18 AM, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Democrat Activist Arrested For Rioting Now Caught Burning Conservative Library Books
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 20:57:40 -0700
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On 12/08/2020 12:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop,alt.home.repair,uk.d-i-y
Subject: Re: OT: Silly philosophical quiz
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 20:49:37 -0700
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On 12/08/2020 03:14 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Vaccine scam
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 20:29:05 -0700
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On 12/08/2020 05:46 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT. Pearl Harbor Day
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 07:54:46 -0700
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On 12/08/2020 07:43 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Republicans harass the Michigan Secretary of State
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 07:49:51 -0700
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On 12/08/2020 07:35 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Trump ĄĽplanning opposing rallyĄŚ on BidenĄŚs inauguration day
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 19:01:54 -0700
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On 12/07/2020 09:46 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT. Spanish Flu. Lockdowns and Masks.
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 22:05:04 -0700
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On 12/06/2020 06:29 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
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Subject: Re: Dog lovers for Joe
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 12:40:52 -0700
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On 12/05/2020 12:19 PM, micky wrote:
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On 12/05/2020 10:48 AM, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
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Subject: Re: Security Cam Catches Poll Workers Bringing Out Hidden Ballots After Kicking Out Poll Watchers
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On 12/04/2020 08:30 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: $58 - TAX THE RICH SWEATSHIRT by AOC
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On 12/04/2020 04:42 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: U.K. Becomes First Country to Approve Pfizer Vaccine
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 07:52:18 -0700
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On 12/02/2020 07:19 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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Subject: Re: OT. College Football
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 07:47:38 -0700
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On 11/30/2020 05:01 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
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Subject: Re: This is one reason why Michigan Governor is a moron
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 07:39:21 -0700
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On 11/30/2020 04:30 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: OT: Japan commie flu death rate versus ...
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 11:02:17 -0700
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On 11/29/2020 06:30 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: Polishing my headlights
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 18:05:19 -0700
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On 11/28/2020 02:13 PM, Steve W. wrote:
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Subject: Re: Trump administration permits firing squad and poison gas executions with new rule
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 17:34:18 -0700
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On 11/28/2020 11:42 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
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Subject: Re: OT Alliances.
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 12:56:19 -0700
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On 11/27/2020 09:28 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Newsmax OANN Won't Say Who Won - Trump Or Biden
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 23:25:26 -0700
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On 11/26/2020 09:22 PM, marika wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT: A bit dim in the West Country
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 13:01:36 -0700
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On 11/26/2020 10:35 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Food Shortage?????
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 10:21:30 -0700
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On 11/26/2020 05:16 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT. Food Optional. Grocery Stores Closing
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 10:16:20 -0700
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On 11/26/2020 04:19 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: OT: Youtube censorship
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 20:24:40 -0700
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On 11/25/2020 02:42 PM, Snit wrote:
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Subject: Re: Tech Millionaire Funds Hacking Team; ĄŚ20 Election 100% Rigged
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:43:54 -0700
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On 11/25/2020 12:16 PM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: appointing a Republican
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:13:22 -0700
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On 11/25/2020 01:37 AM, micky wrote:
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Subject: Re: President-select Joe meets with his new boss...
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:03:31 -0700
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On 11/25/2020 03:18 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
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Subject: Re: WHISTLEBLOWERS: Biden Implicated In Dominion Voting Scam Connected To Serbia
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 07:48:17 -0700
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On 11/25/2020 04:59 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: Respecting women
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 17:43:56 -0700
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On 11/22/2020 12:22 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: What were Tesla thinking?
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 17:28:05 -0700
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On 11/22/2020 04:58 PM, Frank wrote:
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Subject: Re: OT. "Has Anybody here seen..........
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 10:31:55 -0700
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On 11/22/2020 07:59 AM, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
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Subject: Re: Trump Chaos Rebellion Fails in Michigan Nevada
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 10:18:29 -0700
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On 11/22/2020 08:48 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Douche Newsom orders California curfew
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 07:52:19 -0700
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On 11/20/2020 04:39 AM, Clown News Network wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: An actual miscount in Georgia
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 19:35:59 -0700
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On 11/18/2020 01:15 PM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: Report: Nev. Election Officials Failed To Verify 89% Of Mail-In Signatures
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 07:53:51 -0700
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On 11/18/2020 04:35 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Trump fires election security official who contradicted him
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 07:41:32 -0700
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On 11/18/2020 04:39 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Madman Trump wanted to bomb Iran's nukes
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 07:50:12 -0700
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On 11/17/2020 02:57 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Chinese Communists Used Computer Fraud and Mail Ballot Fraud to Interfere with Our National Election
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:46:05 -0700
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On 11/16/2020 08:41 AM, Snag wrote:
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Subject: Re: Need a cheap and rapid COVID-19 test result?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:26:34 -0700
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On 11/16/2020 11:28 AM, Shadow wrote:
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Subject: Re: All the Lawsuits the Trump Campaign Has Filed
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 08:13:41 -0700
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On 11/16/2020 05:09 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: S. Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem Will NOT Comply With Biden Face Mask Mandate: He ĄĽdoesnĄŚt have the authorityĄŚ
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 07:50:15 -0700
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On 11/16/2020 05:00 AM, Duke wrote:
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Subject: Re: Biden Charity???
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 18:11:08 -0700
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On 11/15/2020 02:00 PM, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
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Subject: Re: Democrats commit greatest theft in US history
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 17:51:45 -0700
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On 11/15/2020 01:46 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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Subject: Re: OT Amazon drivers.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 17:47:51 -0700
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On 11/15/2020 04:15 PM, Wade Garrett wrote:
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Subject: Re: Dead man voting!
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 12:27:47 -0700
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On 11/15/2020 06:44 AM, Roger Oveur wrote:
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Subject: Re: OT: more Nevada cheating
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 11:01:40 -0700
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On 11/15/2020 05:23 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: OT: More on the NV cheat-by-mail
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 11:00:15 -0700
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On 11/15/2020 05:06 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: Pennsylvania Results Show a Statistically Impossible Pattern Behind Biden's Steal! WE CAUGHT THEM!
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 18:44:31 -0700
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On 11/14/2020 03:59 PM, micky wrote:
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Subject: Re: Strippers yes, Jesus NO
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 18:41:26 -0700
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On 11/14/2020 04:14 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
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Subject: Re: Trump may start a war to save his presidency
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 13:40:44 -0700
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On 11/14/2020 12:22 PM, marika wrote:
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Subject: Re: Mr. Trump is so wise.
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 11:15:22 -0700
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On 11/14/2020 04:33 AM, Barry Soetoro wrote:
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Subject: Re: Need a cheap and rapid COVID-19 test result? Flip a coin. Heads you do, tails you don't.
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 11:06:45 -0700
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On 11/14/2020 10:26 AM, Frank wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Biden Fireworks, How did they do it?
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 22:00:28 -0700
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On 11/13/2020 08:49 PM, micky wrote:
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Subject: Re: OT: And so the post Trump infighting that I predicted has begun.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 19:33:14 -0700
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On 11/13/2020 12:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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Subject: Re: The N95 shortage America can't seem to fix
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 19:52:10 -0700
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On 11/12/2020 01:34 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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Subject: Re: Utah restaurant bans customers from wearing masks
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 19:47:20 -0700
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On 11/12/2020 01:38 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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Subject: Re: 10 best anti-socialism memes
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 07:37:23 -0700
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On 11/10/2020 06:09 AM, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote:
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Subject: Re: Fox News pulls plug on Trump spokeswoman making baseless claims of fraud
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 07:30:12 -0700
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On 11/10/2020 04:40 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: Trump fires Defense Secretary Esper
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 19:24:43 -0700
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On 11/09/2020 12:03 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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Subject: Re: AOC reveals ĄĽauthoritarian fascist instinctsĄŚ after calls for a list of Trump ĄĽsycophantsĄŚ
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 13:40:45 -0700
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On 11/08/2020 08:56 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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Subject: Re: British punter loses $5 million after gambling on Donald Trump to beat Joe Biden in ĄĽlargest political wager ever madeĄŚ
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 13:28:11 -0700
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On 11/08/2020 08:23 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Donald TrumpĄŚs chief of staff, Mark Meadows, tests positive to COVID-19
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 12:48:56 -0700
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On 11/08/2020 06:10 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT message to Rudy
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 12:09:03 -0700
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On 11/08/2020 09:56 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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Subject: Re: Biden Win
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On 11/07/2020 11:44 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Republicans distance themselves from Donald Trump
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 13:30:43 -0700
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On 11/07/2020 10:27 AM, Roger Oveur wrote:
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Subject: Re: Clothing and politics
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 11:25:22 -0700
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On 11/07/2020 05:26 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Aspirin to be tested as potential COVID-19 drug in UK study
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 21:42:59 -0700
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On 11/06/2020 04:47 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Joe Biden is leading in Pa. By 5587 votes.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 21:41:07 -0700
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On 11/06/2020 07:09 AM, micky wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT. Amazon Prime???
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 21:32:07 -0700
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On 11/06/2020 06:23 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Presidential Race Concession
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 20:10:20 -0700
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On 11/06/2020 09:16 AM, Fred wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Rod Blagojevich: Democrats Committing Ą§WidespreadĄ¨ Voter Fraud, Ą§Never Seen It On Such A MagnitudeĄ¨
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 20:01:37 -0700
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On 11/06/2020 06:13 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT: RBG died tomight, and some months ago I was advised by my broker that RMD is not required for 2020
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 23:22:57 -0600
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On 09/18/2020 07:55 PM, knuckle...@nowhere.gov wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: marbles
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 18:44:42 -0600
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On 09/18/2020 10:31 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Donald Trump claims coronavirus vaccine could be just weeks away
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 20:31:20 -0600
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On 09/16/2020 12:59 PM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT - 1st time in 175 years - Scientific American endorses Joe Biden
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 20:12:51 -0600
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On 09/16/2020 06:59 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT. Cops Shot
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 07:53:07 -0600
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On 09/16/2020 12:07 AM, Loyal Soldier wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: trump's lying has expanded effects.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:03:11 -0600
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On 09/14/2020 12:11 PM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: What COVID19 Looks Like Without NY and NJ
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 14:09:24 -0600
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On 09/13/2020 12:06 PM, %% wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT: This newsgroup has bee hijacked by Trump haters
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 12:45:17 -0600
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On 09/12/2020 02:22 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: OT 2 forms of ID
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 12:42:52 -0600
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On 09/11/2020 10:44 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: WH Chief of Staff reacts to Trump's controversial COVID comments
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 20:33:30 -0600
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On 09/10/2020 01:15 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Fox Is So Rattled By Trump Military Story That It Confirms, Debunks, Then Reconfirms It
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 20:16:17 -0600
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On 09/10/2020 11:47 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Good guys win, bad guy loses
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 19:41:13 -0600
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On 09/09/2020 08:12 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Christians Fools Idiots Says Trump (In Cohen Book)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 19:37:31 -0600
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On 09/09/2020 12:49 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: NFL: Donald TrumpĄŚs son broken by AmericaĄŚs team the Dallas Cowboys
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 22:49:17 -0600
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On 09/08/2020 09:26 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: American Airlines supports domestic terrorism?
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 22:37:18 -0600
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On 09/08/2020 10:23 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
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From: rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Donald Trump accuses US military leadership of seeking to start wars to profit defence contractors
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 20:38:31 -0600
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On 09/08/2020 09:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Re: Olympiics
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 07:43:33 -0600
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On 09/08/2020 04:25 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
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If people like Carlos feed these trolls, the Android ng will be a cesspool.

Arlen Holder

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On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 23:21:16 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Don't be infantile, Arlen. Everybody is ignoring you or killfilled you.
> Nothing you say about somebody being a troll is taken seriously by
> anybody - even if they happen to be a troll.

Carlos,

You can't deflect the fact, Carlos, that you're feeding it willingly.

If you don't comprehend what I'm saying by now, you're an utter moron.
o The facts are clear in this thread, despite your attempt to evade facts.

I proved, with facts, beyond doubt, these are all known political trolls.
o <https://i.postimg.cc/QtrSTg2M/fred.jpg> Fred political troll
o <https://i.postimg.cc/4Nyd369x/micky01.jpg> micky political troll
o <https://i.postimg.cc/bwb9y9Dr/deanhoffman.jpg> deanhoffman political troll
o <https://i.postimg.cc/nzXjnMVG/rbowman.jpg> rbowman political troll
o Rod Speed is like Snit & Diesel & others well known so no proof is needed
All of whom have infested the REPAIR ng to turn it into a cesspool, Carlos.

I provided _hundreds_ of clear cites, Carlos.
o All of which you're utterly oblivious of

Why?
o I don't know why.

I suspect you're just stupid Carlos.
o Because any adult on the planet would easily agree

As did the Usenet admins who kicked "micky" off their servers.
o You think they're as stupid as you appear to be Carlos?

You're _feeding_ these cesspool trolls, Carlos.
o Why? I don't know why.

You tell us _why_ you're feeding known infantile political trolls Carlos.

I simply suspect you're too stupid to realize you're feeding it.
o It's not even a human for God's sake - and you can't figure that out.

Who is _that_ stupid, but you, Carlos?
o Seriously.

I realize you're too stupid, Carlos, to comprehend the proof I supplied.
o But that proof isn't for you (because you _defend_ those trolls, Carlos)

But others aren't as stupid as you are Carlos.
o Which is why I supplied the proof.

Which even you, Carlos, can't possibly deny despite your attempts to try.
o You can't deflect the fact, Carlos, that you're feeding it willingly.
--
If people like Carlos continue to feed the infantile political troll,
rest assured, this Android newsgroup will soon be a cesspool where it,
and Carlos thrive, but nobody else will.

Rod Speed

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"Carlos E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote in message
news:gkmuch-...@Telcontar.valinor...
Doesn’t need to, it works as you leave the house.

> Google maps history always ask me to
> confirm that I'm home, it never knows.

But will when LEAVING the house.

Peeler

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On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 10:06:56 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest trollshit unread>

10:06??? So you've been up and trolling ALL NIGHT and ALL MORNING (since
02:12), yet again, you sick senile swine!

--
Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 86-year-old senile Australian
cretin's pathological trolling:
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/rod-speed-faq.2973853/

micky

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In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Jan 2021 20:48:00 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
I didn't know google maps kept a history on me, not that I mind. It
will help my mother find out where I am.

It never asks when to confirm I'm home, but the GPS does work inside my
house, I think .

I want to be able to say "Alexa, I'm leaving", and it will turn my cell
phone on, lower my heat, turn off the stove, turn off the bathtub water,
eject from the closet the proper coat for the current weather, and
display in my glasses a list of things I need to bring with me that day.
Just kidding. I'm happy when Alexa leaves me alone.

Carlos E.R.

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On 12/01/2021 10.51, micky wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Jan 2021 20:48:00 +0100, "Carlos E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 11/01/2021 17.24, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:6g1uch-...@Telcontar.valinor...
>>>> On 11/01/2021 07.15, micky wrote:
>>>>> To save battery, I turned off my bluetooth, and I got a notification on
>>>>> the cellular startup screen with a red sun and the message "Exposure
>>>>> Notifications inactive.  To use this feature, turn on bluetooth."
>>>>>
>>>>> I had to google to be reminded of what it meant.  It refers to exposure
>>>>> to covid and since a) I have the app that keeps track of whether I'm
>>>>> near an infected person, and b) I turned off bluetooth, it complains.
>>>>>
>>>>> I only go out once or twice a week, soI will leave it off and hope the
>>>>> reminder re-appears when I'm leaving the house.
>>>
>>>> No, it will not. How can it know you are leaving home?
>>>
>>> Any decent smartphone knows that with the gps.
>>
>> Which doesn't work inside my house. Google maps history always ask me to
>> confirm that I'm home, it never knows.
>
> I didn't know google maps kept a history on me, not that I mind. It
> will help my mother find out where I am.

Goole Maps app, tap your microicon at the top right, then tap on the
"timeline" entry in the menu.


> It never asks when to confirm I'm home, but the GPS does work inside my
> house, I think .
>
> I want to be able to say "Alexa, I'm leaving", and it will turn my cell
> phone on, lower my heat, turn off the stove, turn off the bathtub water,
> eject from the closet the proper coat for the current weather, and
> display in my glasses a list of things I need to bring with me that day.
> Just kidding. I'm happy when Alexa leaves me alone.

Oh, we will get there alright :-D

Some of it you can do now, if you install on your house the proper servos.


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Cheers, Carlos.

Arlen Holder

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On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 22:17:44 +0100, Piet wrote:

Hi Piet,

QUESTION for this newsgroup, and for anyone responding in this thread:
o Do we want this "micky" troll to turn the Android ng into its cesspool?

I realize you're conversing with Carlos, which, well, you'll figure out why
that's almost certainly going to be futile.

What I just wanted to post is the following I just compiled on the last few
posts of the author of this thread, all of which are infantile political
trolls.

I don't know why it trolls, but I do very clearly prove that it does.
o You can decide what you want, based on facts - as I simply present them.

FACT 1:
o This "micky" troll got kicked off of Eternal September late in December.
(for turning those groups into cesspools of its infantile politics)

FACT 2:
o This "micky" troll enrolled in a new Usenet server at that time
(it continued to turn those ngs into cesspools of its infantile politics).

QUESTION for this newsgroup:
o Do we want this "micky" troll to turn the Android ng into its cesspool?

Here are the _new_ infantile trolls from this "micky" troll
o Nobody who is an adult could possibly disagree with the facts below.
*** *** ***
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Pro-trump rally outside Twitter.
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Message-Id: <d1fqvf9svcclktjbd...@4ax.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 21 06:05:55 UTC
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Message-Id: <iveovfh9fkvbp3pfd...@4ax.com>
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Subject: OT Lawsuit
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 21 12:00:12 UTC
*** *** ***
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT Loans should be non-discriminatory, so do what Isay
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 21 11:52:12 UTC
Message-Id: <bqdovflel82i23tg3...@4ax.com>
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Which one of you will be the Newton of this generation?
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 21 09:39:03 UTC
Message-Id: <m47ovf5h1lefbrbgm...@4ax.com>
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Message-Id: <gg1ovf5i5ig92cj4e...@4ax.com>
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT impeached twice
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 21 08:06:26 UTC
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 21 16:15:16 UTC
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT 10 days vs. 8.
Message-Id: <bv9mvf1itq95cikme...@4ax.com>
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT CEO and still stupid.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 21 16:12:53 UTC
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Message-Id: <tt8mvfdf8bfd65272...@4ax.com>
*** *** ***
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Subject: OT Stumpie inteferes with election counting
Message-Id: <e2qlvfltobc0o6sq7...@4ax.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 21 11:45:49 UTC
*** *** ***
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Subject: OT More stumpie, all the time
Message-Id: <itogvfl7cvokjra31...@4ax.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 21 14:03:48 UTC
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 21 10:18:45 UTC
Message-Id: <tjbgvfh0r13l30qh7...@4ax.com>
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Subject: Problems with 25th Amendment
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From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Which is highdr, Online or store prices.
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 21 09:36:47 UTC
Message-Id: <359gvf9jrmrd9vinv...@4ax.com>
*** *** ***
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 21 13:12:41 UTC
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Not resigning to make sure bad things don't happen. `
Message-Id: <t22evf53too3nj9cc...@4ax.com>
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 21 12:04:08 UTC
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT Just imagine
Message-Id: <d1udvfptu62b4p8hp...@4ax.com>
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 21 08:53:43 UTC
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Subject: A plan
Message-Id: <ttidvfpa26h08fius...@4ax.com>
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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 21 22:49:52 UTC
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: Misc about DC today
Message-Id: <a8fcvf5gbn7bupj8c...@4ax.com>
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
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From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 21 19:36:36 UTC
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: the biggest collection of jackasses in America in my lifetime
Message-Id: <683cvf1gb5am1st0b...@4ax.com>
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From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: elections in flux
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 21 15:07:07 UTC
Message-Id: <etv8vftknjqc8ec6u...@4ax.com>
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Message-Id: <jn48vf9b98mmsmbhk...@4ax.com>
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Subject: OT stumpie from his sister's pov
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 21 07:20:29 UTC
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Subject: OT paraphaising, I got along petty good with North Korea
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 21 05:05:28 UTC
Message-Id: <5js7vfph6ov29fht9...@4ax.com>
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 21 06:27:04 UTC
From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Subject: Nemo iudex in causa sua
Message-Id: <tmb5vfh05beqa4781...@4ax.com>
*** *** ***
Subject: trump still at it.
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 21 23:07:26 UTC
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From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
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Subject: OT more goings on in Congress
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From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 21 14:12:39 UTC
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Subject: OT congressional audit of election voting
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 21 22:41:25 UTC
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Subject: Where the Boys Are
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 21 07:12:55 UTC
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Subject: Why only cloth masks
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From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 21 00:24:42 UTC
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Subject: OT 2 hours debate total or 2x4
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 20 21:24:47 UTC
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Subject: Why can't you rewind youtube advertisements?
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 20 06:35:34 UTC
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 20 11:16:01 UTC
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Subject: DoD, OMB, still not cooperating.
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 20 11:16:01 UTC
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Subject: DoD, OMB, still not cooperating.
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Subject: trump still at it.
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 21 23:07:26 UTC
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From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
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Subject: OT more goings on in Congress
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From: micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 21 14:12:39 UTC
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Subject: Why would this virus be different from the other viruses?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 21 08:39:55 UTC
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Subject: OT Only 50 or 51 votes needed
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 21 10:18:03 UTC
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I don't know why it trolls; but I can easily prove that it does.
o The question is do we want it to turn this ng into its cesspool?

Arlen Holder

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Jan 13, 2021, 8:49:16 AM1/13/21
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 10:20:56 +0000, &y wrote:

> Sorry to snip away the rest of your post, micky.

Hi "&y",

Given your "posting record", I suspect you're a troll, but I will wait for
you to troll further to confirm that suspicion (or, perhaps, you'll prove
to be real, which I would welcome).

Nonetheless my point of responding is that you may not get a reply from
this "micky" troll (at least not from the server it opened this thread
with).

Facts:
o "micky" was booted off Eternal September in late December
(about the 23rd or so as recall - based on facts presented to Wolfgang)
o "micky" immediately started spamming on Paolo's server (aioe)
(who timed him out, but for an unknown time frame, AFAICT)
o "micky" subsequently moved to UsenetFarm to spam this ng
(who kicked it off just now, only moments ago, in fact, AFAIK)

Note: I'm not sure if the "Bod" troll was also kicked off, as they're one
and the same anyway - where the Usenet Farm server admin wasn't explicit.

BTW, this thread was always just a "credibility troll" anyway, (IMHO),
where you can tell by a whole bunch of obvious clues, not the least of
which is the OP's never put any energy into them (they just fabricate
the question of of thin air, toying with anyone who tries to help, by
throwing up arbitrary obstacles and by not acting upon any advice nor
proving a single word it says).

One by one, the facts will get these trolls kicked off its servers.
--
Note: I'm not so naive to believe it won't keep finding new servers;
and changing its IP addresses on each; but, like weeds, it can certainly
grow faster than I can keep up, but the nntp server admins are
the last bastion of weed killers that may yet save this newsgroup
from the cesspool of the troll (it is perhaps a single puppet master?).

Safra Katz

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Jan 13, 2021, 9:19:40 AM1/13/21
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If micky-bod would just preface off-topic posts with the three character string "OT:", this wouldn't be an issue.

Ken Blake

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Jan 13, 2021, 10:09:46 AM1/13/21
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On 1/13/2021 3:20 AM, &y wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 21 07:15:11 UTC, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
>
>>To save battery, I turned off my bluetooth
>
> []
> Sorry to snip away the rest of your post, micky. The first line was all I
> wanted to comment about. Leaving bluetooth on used to have quite an impact,
> but not so much anymore.
>
> "So… does turning Bluetooth off save battery?
>
> No, not really.
>
> Over the course of our 26-hour “typical day” test, leaving Bluetooth on
> consumed just 1.8% more battery compared to the test with Bluetooth off."
> https://bit.ly/35Asjhb


I keep bluetooth on all the time, so the phone works on my car. I have
no idea what effect it has on the phone's battery and I don't care. I
usually charge the battery every other night and that's fine with me.


--
Ken

Kees Nuyt

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Jan 13, 2021, 8:10:01 PM1/13/21
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Hi Arlen,

On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 04:02:02 +0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder <arlen_...@newmachines.com> wrote:

> Hi Piet,
>
> QUESTION for this newsgroup, and for anyone responding in this thread:
> o Do we want this "micky" troll to turn the Android ng into its cesspool?

I doubt Piet will ever answer this.
I am 98% sure his troll strategy
is the same as mine:
Just ignore trolls. Don't feed them bait.

Any discussion about trolls just muds the
water even more.

If I decide to leave this group, it is not
because of trolls, but the excessive troll
profiling you are performing.
--
Kees Nuyt

VanguardLH

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Jan 14, 2021, 3:41:00 AM1/14/21
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If you have a smartphone, India requires you have their Covid contact
tracking app to travel. I heard the requirement was "eased", but not
just what got relaxed.

In Argentina, people who enter the country (i.e., from abroad) are
required to install a Covid contact tracking app.

In China, and instead of a national requirements, cities mandate their
own rules. Some have mandated that citizens without a health infection
color code cannot enter public places.

In Turkey, anyone with HES codes on their app which indicates they
tested positive or have been in contact (as determined by the tracking
app - which has already been mentioned its failings) with someone
infected are not allowed to use public transportation or airplanes.

In Russian, anyone identified (but how is not mentioned) that was in
contact with an infected person must install the Social Monitoring app,
or face a fine. Those without smartphones get special devices with the
app pre-installed.

In countries where citizens are quarantined must install an app, so the
authorities can monitor their movement.

John B.

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Jan 14, 2021, 4:33:17 AM1/14/21
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I would add Singapore,mandatory for all, I believe, and Thailand
mandatory for the three provinces with a large number of cases and
recommended for all provinces.
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Cheers,

John B.

Carlos E.R.

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Jan 14, 2021, 8:32:07 AM1/14/21
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Not here.

The authorities have found that about a 10% of the people mandated to
quarantine evade it. The health authorities go to their homes for a
followup, and they are not there.

The press mentions that it is difficult to keep a quarantine if your
boss doesn't cooperate. The employees lose their jobs and sustenance.


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Cheers, Carlos.
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