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yagneswaran manickam

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Sep 25, 2011, 12:14:03 PM9/25/11
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I refer to various mails of date on GRATUITY REVISION.All the issues relating to the pensioners are genuine and justified including the GRATUITY ISSUE.When compared to the MINIMUM PENSION/FAMILY PENSION ,100%D A ,UPDATING OF PENSION etc. which relate to the entire section of pensioners ,revised gratuity payment relates to a few 20k to 25 k retirees only.BUT IT IS A DELIBERATE ACTION ON THE PART OF THE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES NOT TO BACK THIS ESPECIALLY WHEN THE INSTITUTIONS WERE/ARE ALSO  READY TO PAY.The ever avaricious politicians have back stabbed the bank employees knowing full well the reasonableness of the subject and our leaders are now coming out with various unconnected excuses to save themselves.HEART OF HEART LET THEM SAY THIS IS AN UNJUSTIFIED DEMAND AND IT IS NOT WORTH PURSUING BY THEM.WE WILL THEN CLOSE THIS TOPIC FOR EVER.MIND YOU ARE APPLYING DIFFERENT YARDSTICKS FOR YOUR OWN EX MEMBERS WHO  GAVE  YOU THE PRESENT POSITION TRUSTING YOU TO THE CORE ,BACKING YOU IN ALL ISSUES,AND RESPONDING TO ALL YOUR DHARNA/STRIKE CALLS .HAVE SOME HEART FOR THE RETIREES ,DO NOT TREAT THEM AS UNTOUCHABLES AND UNWANTED OLDIES.THIS IS MY REQUEST ON BEHALF OF THE AFFECTED PENSIONERS.NEVER EQUATE THE OTHER DEMANDS WITH THIS REVISED GRATUITY ONE TIME ISSUE WHICH RELATES TO FEW RETIREES ONLY .IF INTERESTED TAKE UP WITH THE GOVT.FOR CLEARING THE NOTE FOR PAYMENT BY THE ORGANISATIONS HAVING THE CAPACITY TO PAY AND ARE WILLING, OTHER WISE ACCEPT YOUR NON INTEREST WITHOUT SHAME.(THERE IS A NOTE THAT THE LEADERS ARE NOT MUCH(?)INTERSTED,A MESSAGE ALREADY KNOWN NOW  ACCEPTED OPENLY).LONG LIVE THY TRIBE TO DO MORE HARM TO THE RETIREES AND ENJOY THE CRUEL PLEASURE OF THEIR SUFFERINGS.FOR HEAVEN SAKE DO NOT COME OUT WITH INSANE ARGUMENTS FURTHER EXPOSING YOUR INABILILTY. I HAVE NOT ACCUSED ANYBODY PERSONALLY HERE BUT  ONLY THE TREACHEROUS PERSONS STILL TRYING TO JUSTIFY  THEIR UNJUSTIFIED STAND.STILL NO MALICE TOWARDS ANYBODY INDIVIDUALLY BUT THE POWER GROUPS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR  FAILURE TO PROTECT THEIR SENIOR AND NOW RETIRED EMPLOYEES.SHAME SHAME    Y MANICKAM
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    Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com> Sep 25 05:08PM +0530 ^
     
    Dear friends,
     
    I have received reliable information that the Banks have received instruction to extend benefit of opting for Pension, for those who retired after 27.4.2010 and date of acceptance of more
    "sudershan pal kharbanda" <sp...@rediffmail.com> Sep 25 10:37AM ^
     
    Dear friends
    I hope the following will clarify all doubts about 100% neutralization of DA as well as about updation.
    A&gt; AS REGARDS DA CALCULATION, before signing of 8th BPS, all bank staff / more
    Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com> Sep 24 05:13PM +0530 ^
     
    Dear Mr.Sastry,
     
    I have already made known my views in this matter earlier.  In fact, I had discussion with some of the Senior Trade Union leaders regarding this issue of payment of Gratuity from more
    venkat rao <venka...@yahoo.co.in> Sep 24 08:02PM +0530 ^
     
    Dear  Friends,
    The reason for not demanding enhanced gratuity from 01/01/2006 is very strange.If that is the case, why you people are demanding 100% nutralisation,5years addition for pension and more
    Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com> Sep 24 09:55PM +0530 ^
     
    Dear Mr.Venkat Rao,
     
    Please go through my mail again.  I have not said that the Banks does not have capacity to pay. Certainly, the Banks have the capacity to pay.  That is what my friend has more
    Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com> Sep 24 09:57PM +0530 ^
     
    Dear Mr.Venkat Rao,
     
     
     
    Please go through my mail again.  I have not said that the Banks does not have capacity to pay. Certainly, the Banks have the capacity to pay.  That is what my friend has more
    bass <basha...@rediffmail.com> Sep 24 12:18PM -0700 ^
     
    Dear Sir,
     
    A lot of discussion was made on the demand for extension of enhanced
    gratuity from 1.1.2006 instead of 24.5.2010 in this blog that too very
    recently. Whatever said to be the view of more
    bass <basha...@rediffmail.com> Sep 24 01:05PM -0700 ^
     
    Dear Sir,
     
    The question itself is wrong.
     
    Only managements will ask like this.
     
    When both hands are necessary, how a person can say one hand is
    important than the other.
     
    Correct answer from more
    bass <basha...@rediffmail.com> Sep 24 10:50PM -0700 ^
     
    Dear Sir,
     
    I furnish hereunder some views about this gratuity issue, for your
    information.
     
    SBI Pensioners Association(Bengal Circle) Kolkata Zonal Committee
     
    ALL RETIRED PERSON SHOULD RAISE more
    Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com> Sep 25 11:29AM +0530 ^
     
    Dear friends,
     
    Perhaps, many a times I personally feel that I should not debate in this group.  If one says you are entitled to get benefit, even if you are not, that person is a positive person. more
    Natrajan Balasubramanian <nat....@gmail.com> Sep 24 08:25PM +0530 ^
     
    THE VIEWS OF SHRI PRASADJI DO NOT APPEAR TO BE SOUND. THERE IS NO
    CORELATION BETWEEN ENHANCED GRATUITY VS 100% DA NEUTRALISATION.
     
    ENHANCED GRATUITY IS SOUGHT BY PERSONS RETIRED AFTER 01.01.2006 more
    bhaskara sarma <pbsa...@gmail.com> Sep 24 10:06PM +0530 ^
     
    DEAR VENKAT RAO,
    I DO FULLY AGREE WITH YOU AND ALL THE DEMANDS ARE EQUALLY IMPORTANT AND THE
    UNIONS/ASSOCIATIONS HAVE TO TAKE UP THE ISSUES AND TRY TO SETTLE THEM
    SINCERELY.FIGHTING AMONG OURSELVES more
    "Venkata S.Akella CFE" <akella....@gmail.com> Sep 25 01:33PM +0530 ^
     
    Dear M/s.Prasad & Basha,
     
    I have been closely following the email-discussions/debates as well as
    friendly guidance and support/advise etc.
    provided by brothers like you, Mr.Basha and many others.. more
    Mohan badi <banking...@yahoo.com> Sep 25 12:02AM -0700 ^
     
    Dear Padmanabhan Sir ,
    Please advise me how to be the member of your group. so that I shall do the needful .I mean that of ABRF. I am new to this pensioners group. My case is pending in  high court more
    Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com> Sep 24 10:02PM +0530 ^
     
    Dear friends,
     
    A note on why Banks have to pay both 5 Years (Regulation 29(5)) and 50% pay benefits.  Please you can make use of the information provided.
     
    Thanks, a Million.
     
    more
    Sumati M <c.su...@gmail.com> Sep 25 07:52AM +0530 ^
     
    Dear Mr.Prasad
     
    Thank you for clearing the air by putting everything in a concise manner
    with due attachemts also.
     
    May be we should fight for some kind of punitive action by theRBI/ more
    synd_man <synd...@hotmail.com> Sep 24 10:42PM +0530 ^
     
    Be a Detective,
     
    Find Out Who are the liars? IBA & Syndicate Bank or The AIBOC? Or All are
    participating in High Drama against Poor VRS/CRS/resigned Retirees?
     
     
    Synd_man
     
    -----Original more
    Chinnagourishankar <gourish...@gmail.com> Sep 24 08:16AM -0400 ^
     
    Dear goel,
    After long time you have come on the net.please send your address and I will send you form to you for enrolling as a member of united bank retired officers assn.
     
    Yours faithfully, more
    Parameswaran Balasubramanian <bpara...@gmail.com> Sep 24 04:26PM +0400 ^
     
    Dear all,
     
    Simply by writing letters will not yield any result. What happened to the
    VRS letters. AIBOC has given ultimatum to IBA. What happened to that.
     
    B. Parameswaran
     
     
    -- more
    Mohan badi <banking...@yahoo.com> Sep 24 05:39AM -0700 ^
     
    Dear Goel Sir,
     
    Sir, Bank's lawyer kept on asking 15 days time on each hearing dates. Court is granting him time as our  HO is in Kolkata. Court has asked him whether is it possible to treat Badi more
    bhaskara sarma <pbsa...@gmail.com> Sep 24 09:56PM +0530 ^
     
    DEQAR LAKSHMANAN,
    YES,100% DA NEUTRALISATION IS NOT GIVEN TO PRE1/10/2002 RETIREES AND THAT IS
    ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS AS TO WHY THERE IS SUCH A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN THE
    AMOUNT OF PENSION DRAWN BY more
    tarsem ladhar <tarsem...@yahoo.ca> Sep 24 09:13AM -0700 ^
     
    Respected Choudhary Ji,
    I am very sorry for delay in responding your e;mail .As advised by the learned members like Mr K.Mohan Das Rao and Mr.C N Parasad on this blog,
    the benefit under the pension more
    venkat rao <venka...@yahoo.co.in> Sep 24 08:28PM +0530 ^
     
    Dear Ashwani Dabra,
    This is the case in Associate banks of SBI also.They too have not recd.The pensioners union of some of the asst banks have taken up the matter in High Courts.We have to wait for more
    lakshmanan shankarnaraynan <laksh...@yahoo.com> Sep 24 07:46AM -0700 ^
     
    Dear Friends,
     
    Many Banks paid the benefit of 5years notional addition. In the case of Indian Bank, the Madras High Court directed the payment to all eligible retirees.
      more
    venkat rao <venka...@yahoo.co.in> Sep 24 08:53PM +0530 ^
     
    Dear Basha,
    Thanks for positive letter and keep it up.
    Venkatrao.H
    SBM Mysore
     
    more
    venkat rao <venka...@yahoo.co.in> Sep 24 08:51PM +0530 ^
     
    Dear Perumal,
    Thanks for your reply and additional information.Truth is bitter.Whether you like it or not.I have no regrets in joining my bank and enjoyed my stay there.Even after retirement I have more
    "P.VIJAYARAGHAVAN" <vijayara...@gmail.com> Sep 24 05:38PM +0530 ^
     
    Dear Parasuraman Sir,
     
    Really it is a vrs success story....
     
    We generally hear VRS persons repenting having opted VRS...and lost heavily
    on account of unemployment, reduced amount of Pension, more
    "P.VIJAYARAGHAVAN" <vijayara...@gmail.com> Sep 24 06:11PM +0530 ^
     
    Sorry one correction to your laetter..
     
    Nowadays ladies prefer not IT people..they prefer some
    Politicians,Cricket players, cinema actors..etc where the income is more..
     
    pensioner
     
     
    more
    venkat rao <venka...@yahoo.co.in> Sep 24 08:13PM +0530 ^
     
    Dear Sri Parasuraman,
    Happy to know that you are fruitfully engaged.All the best.Please furnish the details about the company and their website and email ad to enable me to contact them. more
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pattabhi sastry

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Sep 25, 2011, 1:14:02 PM9/25/11
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Dear Manickam garu,

The average amount forgone by the effected lot on account of Gratuity
aggregates to between R.3 lakhs to Rs.6 lakhs per employees including
forgone tax concessions. I doubt how many people are aware of this?.
Kudos to your article.

Rama Sastry

bass

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Sep 25, 2011, 2:58:21 PM9/25/11
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Dear Sir,

I furnish hereunder some views about this gratuity issue, for your
information.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SBI Pensioners Association(Bengal Circle) Kolkata Zonal Committee

ALL RETIRED PERSON SHOULD RAISE THEIR VOICE THROUGH "TWITTER", "FACE
BOOK" AND OTHER MEDIAS AGAINST THE DISCRIMINATION ON GRATUITY PAYMENT
BY THE FINANCE MINISTRY. FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS PASSED AN ORDER W.E.F.
01.01.06 TO PROVIDE THE BENEFIT TO THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES THOSE WHO ARE
NOT RELATED TO ANY PROFIT MAKING INSTITUTION OTHER THAN TO WIN THEIR
MIND PRIOR TO ELECTION BUT FOR OTHER EMPLOYEES OF PSU/PVT.SECTOR IT IS
24.05.2010 ON THE PLEA THAT TO REDUCE THE EXPENDITURE OF THE GOVT.
PROFIT MAKING ORGANISATIONS ARE NOT INCLUDED WITH THE CHANGE WITHOUT
HAVING ANY RATIONALITY

YOU SHOULD TAKE INITIATIVE SO THAT ALL M.P.s in PARLIAMENT AND
RAJYASABHA MAY RAISE THE QUESTION " WHY THIS DISCRIMINATION ON THE
QUESTION OF GRATUITY PAYMENT FOR EFFECTING THE DATE. I HAVE WRITTEN
IN TWITTER AND FACE BOOK ON DIFFERENT OCCASION BUT I LIKE ,YOU SHOULD
ALSO PROTEST IN WRITING AS NEXT PARLIAMENTARY SEASON WILL START VERY
SHORTLY. PRIYA BRATA CHAKRABARTI - RETIRED OFFICIAL OF SBI AND SBI
PENSIONERS ASSOCIATION(BENGAL CIRCLE)

LODGE YOUR PROTEST AGAINST DISCRIMINATORY IMPLEMENTATION OF GRATUITY
ACT-2010

DC AHUJA [dcah...@gmail.com ] has sent the following draft of a letter
which can be used for lodging the protest against the discriminatory
implementation of Gratuity Act 2010.

All those bankers who have been affected by non implementation of the
Act from back date, should send the letter on the following lines to
all the authorities separately. These bankers should also contact the
union leaders and ask them to send the letters on their letter pads to
these authorities. The central union leadership should also follow up
with the government as this has been a major loss to a large number of
bankers who have recently retired.

To,

The Hon’ble President of India,
President House,
New Delhi-110001.
The Hon’ble Chief Justice of India
Supreme Court of India,
New Delhi.

The Hon’ble Prime Minister of India,
Central
Secreteriate,
New Delhi-110001. .
New Delhi-110001.

The Hon’ble Labour Minister,
Ministry of Labour,
New
Delhi-110001

Respected Madam / Sir,

PROTEST AGAINST THE DISCRIMINATORY IMPLEMENTATION OF GRATUITY ACT,
2010 w.e.f. 24TH MAY, 2010 FOR PSU/BANKS/ INSURANCE SECTORS.
(GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES HAVE GOT THE SAME w.e.f.01-01-2006)

We are thankful to Government for amending the Gratuity Act, 2010
effective from 24thMay, 2010. The Gratuity Act amendment 2010 is for
Private Sectors / Banks / Insurance and Public Sector Undertaking,
whereas the Government has amended the Gratuity Act in August 2009 for
Central Govt. Employees effective from 01-01-2006.

As per the Fundamental Rights mentioned in our Constitution RIGHT TO
EQUALITY article 14 guarantees equality before law as well as equal
protection of the Law to all persons within the territory of India.
This includes the equal subjection of all persons to the authority of
law, as well as equal treatment of persons in similar circumstances.

As per the Fundamental Rights described in our Constitution RIGHT TO
FREEDOM article 21 extend the protection that any law laying down a
procedure must be just, fair and reasonable.

On going through the above articles of Fundamental Right in our
Constitution we presume that it is a great injustice with the
employees of Private Sectors / PSU / BANKS / INSURANCE SECTORS as the
date of implementation of Gratuity Act is w.e.f. 24thMay,2010. The
Government implemented the 6th Pay Commission in the year 2008 and
amended the Gratuity Bill for Central Government Employees in August
2009 effectivefrom 1st Jan., 2006. Another Gratuity Act amended in
May 2010 for Private Sectors / PSU / BANKS / INSURANCE Sectors
effective from 24th May, 2010.

It took Government more than two years, after implementation of 6th
Pay Commission, to move the Gratuity Bill before the Parliamentary
Committee and then get the bill passed in the Lok Sabha and Rajya
Sabha. The bill was moved only when most of the Trade Unions met the
Hon’ble Labour Minister from time to time, whereas it would have been
moved in the year 2008 itself after implementation of the 6th Pay
Commission..

We all know that Private Sectors / PSU / BANKS / INSURANCE Sectors are
earning profits and are the back bone of the Country. Then why there
is discrimination between Central Government Employees and the
employees of Private/ PSU / BANKS / INSURANCE Sectors. All these
sectors stand strongly during the recession in the world.

Is this not a great INJUSTICE ? Is this not INEQUALITY as per the
Fundamental Rights mentioned in our CONSITUTION ?

We once again request The Hon’ble President of India, The Hoin’ble
Chief Justice ofIndia, The Hon’ble Prime Minister of India, The
Hon’ble Labour Minister of India, to consider our genuine demand being
the RIGHT OF EQUALITY as mentioned in our Constitution and amend the
date of implementation of Gratuity effective from 01-01- 2006 instead
of 24th May, 2010.

Thanking you in anticipation.

Yours faithfully,

( )
Retired from :…………………..
Date of Retirement :……………

CC: To the Secretary General, Committee on Petitions, Rajya Sabha, New
Delhi-110001,
with a request to redress our genuine demand under article
350 of the Constitution
of India.

APPEAL BY Dr. G. Sanjeeva Reddy, MP, FOR EXTENDING THE BENEFITS OF
ENHANCED GRATUITY TO THOSE WHO RETIRED BETWEEN 2006 AND 2010

Dr. G. Sanjeeva Reddy in his speech in Parliament urged the
government to implement the amended Gratuity Act with retrospective
effect

Sir, the Minister has proposed some amendments to the Gratuity Act. We
welcome them and support this Bill. But we have some suggestions to
make. The sixth Central Pay commission has recommended gratuity of ten
lakhs rupees to the Central Government employees with retrospective
effect. The same provision is adopted here in the Gratuity Act also
but it is not being done with retrospective effect. This means workers
who have retired during the period from 2006 to 2010 are denied the
benefit. All the recommendations of the Sixth Central Pay Commission
have been implemented and gratuity has been paid to employees with
retrospective effect whereas in this case, if the private employers
are going to give these benefits in this manner, who is going to
benefit? It is not going to be taxed on public sectorcompanies. It is
for the benefit of the private sector employees. If implemented with
retrospective effect, this would benefit people who retired from 2006
onwards otherwise the employees who retired before this Bill would get
only Rs. 3,50,000.

Sir, the Bill says that it shall come into force on such date as the
central government notify in the Gazette. So, it is really depriving
workers of their genuine right. I can submit to the hon. Minister to
please reconsider this. After passing the Gratuity Bill in 1972 the
amount of gratuity of Rupees three lakhs and fifty thousand was fixed
by amendment in 1997.

You have not changed the quantum. Every worker is entitled to have
gratuity at the rate of 15 days wages only for every completed year of
service. For quite a long time, this 15-days entitlement is there. We
thought that the Government is considering favourably increasing this
15-days wages to 30 days. It has been the demand of all the trade
unions. Since the cost of living is very high and the prices are
soaring high, the quantum of 15 days wages should be increased to 30
days. But that has not been done. Only the big entrepreneurs are going
to get the benefit, not the working class. You are denying this right
to employees who are working in the private sector. It is the grave
injustice to these employees. I am sure that the Hon. Labour Minister
can understand the feeling of the working class. Poor workers should
not be denied their right. Another point is that, Sir, gratuity is
given in lieu of service rendered to the industry. For thirty or forty
years workers render service to the industry and thatindustry has to
pay gratuity to workers because workers are not entitled to pension at
this moment. A large number of workers do not get any pension. They
get only gratuity benefit on retirement. Today neither you are
increasing the quantum of gratuity entitlement nor implementing it
with retrospective effect. It is really a grave injustice to workers.
I can only request that our Government should reconsider this matter.
Therefore, I request the hon. Minister to consider it with
retrospective effect. If it is not passed with retrospective effect,
it will be an injustice to the working class. I once again appeal to
the Government to please reconsider it otherwise working class may
start agitation saying that you are discriminating between the
Government employees and private sector employees and you are bringing
this Act without retrospective effect only to benefit the private
employers. It is not good for the prestige of the Government.
Therefore, I appeal to the hon. Minister to reconsider this. There are
no financial consequences on the Government and there is no excess
burden on the Government. There is burden only on the private sector.
Therefore, I earnestly request the hon. Minister to please reconsider
this small thing.

This is a social security benefit that you have to give. Nothing else
can compensate the workers for their long service to the industry.

Publish by
Subhash S.Sawant
General Secretary
Indian National Bank Employees Federation
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Hundreds and thousands of representations were already mailed for
consideration of this issue. It is understood that some cases were
also filed at Kerala, Mumbai and Allahabad High courts. Let us wait
for the out come.

With regards
S.M.BASHA
> >    - Pension option for those retired after 27.4.2010 and date of
> >    introduction of scheme <#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_0> [1 Update]
> >    - DA - 100% Neutralization & Pension Updation<#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_1>[1 Update]
> >    - Gratuity discrimination. <#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_2> [11
> >    Updates]
> >    - TBRF Meeting-23.9.11-at Tirunelveli.<#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_3>[1 Update]
> >    - Note on why bank have to pay 5 Year and 50% Benefit<#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_4>[2 Updates]
> >    - FW: letter to Mr. Nadaf <#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_5> [1 Update]
> >    - another letter by AIBOC <#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_6> [4
> >    Updates]
> >    - 5years notional weightage <#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_7> [1
> >    Update]
> >    - Payment of arrears for 5 year addtion.<#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_8>[2 Updates]
> >    - GRATUITY ENHANCEMENT <#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_9> [1 Update]
> >    - Who prevented me from taking up a job in SBI?<#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_10>[1 Update]
> >    - MY TWO VRS - VERY RARE STORY <#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_11> [4
> >    Updates]
> >    - your mail <#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_12> [1 Update]
>
> >   Topic: Pension option for those retired after 27.4.2010 and date of
> > introduction of scheme<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/t/15f9df4513e1ddcb>
>
> >    Prasad C N <cn_prasa...@yahoo.com> Sep 25 05:08PM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear friends,
>
> >    I have received reliable information that the Banks have received
> >    instruction to extend benefit of opting for Pension, for those who retired
> >    after 27.4.2010 and date of acceptance of more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/9d321f20f33ed277>
>
> >   Topic: DA - 100% Neutralization & Pension Updation<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/t/ea9a23838ba32376>
>
> >    "sudershan pal kharbanda" <sp...@rediffmail.com> Sep 25 10:37AM ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear friends
> >    I hope the following will clarify all doubts about 100% neutralization
> >    of DA as well as about updation.
> >    A&gt; AS REGARDS DA CALCULATION, before signing of 8th BPS, all bank
> >    staff / more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/158bdfe4af1058a2>
>
> >   Topic: Gratuity discrimination.<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/t/346cdada0c6423ee>
>
> >    Prasad C N <cn_prasa...@yahoo.com> Sep 24 05:13PM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear Mr.Sastry,
>
> >    I have already made known my views in this matter earlier.  In fact, I
> >    had discussion with some of the Senior Trade Union leaders regarding this
> >    issue of payment of Gratuity from more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/63bda0a32886fc5>
>
> >    venkat rao <venkatra...@yahoo.co.in> Sep 24 08:02PM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear  Friends,
> >    The reason for not demanding enhanced gratuity from 01/01/2006 is very
> >    strange.If that is the case, why you people are demanding 100%
> >    nutralisation,5years addition for pension and more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/e4dc880dfd1a2619>
>
> >    Prasad C N <cn_prasa...@yahoo.com> Sep 24 09:55PM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear Mr.Venkat Rao,
>
> >    Please go through my mail again.  I have not said that the Banks does
> >    not have capacity to pay. Certainly, the Banks have the capacity to pay.
> >     That is what my friend has more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/3aa3f13db462cfa9>
>
> >    Prasad C N <cn_prasa...@yahoo.com> Sep 24 09:57PM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear Mr.Venkat Rao,
>
> >    Please go through my mail again.  I have not said that the Banks does
> >    not have capacity to pay. Certainly, the Banks have the capacity to pay.
> >     That is what my friend has more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/aaf28de9e6597621>
>
> >    bass <basha_4...@rediffmail.com> Sep 24 12:18PM -0700 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear Sir,
>
> >    A lot of discussion was made on the demand for extension of enhanced
> >    gratuity from 1.1.2006 instead of 24.5.2010 in this blog that too very
> >    recently. Whatever said to be the view of more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/9ce291bf8535bdf9>
>
> >    bass <basha_4...@rediffmail.com> Sep 24 01:05PM -0700 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear Sir,
>
> >    The question itself is wrong.
>
> >    Only managements will ask like this.
>
> >    When both hands are necessary, how a person can say one hand is
> >    important than the other.
>
> >    Correct answer from more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/55611f99ac9196e3>
>
> >    bass <basha_4...@rediffmail.com> Sep 24 10:50PM -0700 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear Sir,
>
> >    I furnish hereunder some views about this gratuity issue, for your
> >    information.
>
> >    SBI Pensioners Association(Bengal Circle) Kolkata Zonal Committee
>
> >    ALL RETIRED PERSON SHOULD RAISE more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/42403789513bc617>
>
> >    Prasad C N <cn_prasa...@yahoo.com> Sep 25 11:29AM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear friends,
>
> >    Perhaps, many a times I personally feel that I should not debate in
> >    this group.  If one says you are entitled to get benefit, even if you are
> >    not, that person is a positive person. more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/c937854e810d5dbf>
>
> >    Natrajan Balasubramanian <nat.b...@gmail.com> Sep 24 08:25PM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    THE VIEWS OF SHRI PRASADJI DO NOT APPEAR TO BE SOUND. THERE IS NO
> >    CORELATION BETWEEN ENHANCED GRATUITY VS 100% DA NEUTRALISATION.
>
> >    ENHANCED GRATUITY IS SOUGHT BY PERSONS RETIRED AFTER 01.01.2006 more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/d63c56f6be3c86ce>
>
> >    bhaskara sarma <pbsarm...@gmail.com> Sep 24 10:06PM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    DEAR VENKAT RAO,
> >    I DO FULLY AGREE WITH YOU AND ALL THE DEMANDS ARE EQUALLY IMPORTANT AND
> >    THE
> >    UNIONS/ASSOCIATIONS HAVE TO TAKE UP THE ISSUES AND TRY TO SETTLE THEM
> >    SINCERELY.FIGHTING AMONG OURSELVES more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/4e312dd475e739be>
>
> >    "Venkata S.Akella CFE" <akella.venk...@gmail.com> Sep 25 01:33PM +0530
> >    ^ <#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear M/s.Prasad & Basha,
>
> >    I have been closely following the email-discussions/debates as well as
> >    friendly guidance and support/advise etc.
> >    provided by brothers like you, Mr.Basha and many others.. more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/ccd3af20edf3e1a>
>
> >   Topic: TBRF Meeting-23.9.11-at Tirunelveli.<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/t/5f8790ee470def59>
>
> >    Mohan badi <banking_facu...@yahoo.com> Sep 25 12:02AM -0700 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear Padmanabhan Sir ,
> >    Please advise me how to be the member of your group. so that I shall do
> >    the needful .I mean that of ABRF. I am new to this pensioners group. My case
> >    is pending in  high court more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/652c1bc84130de16>
>
> >   Topic: Note on why bank have to pay 5 Year and 50% Benefit<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/t/4947defb328af527>
>
> >    Prasad C N <cn_prasa...@yahoo.com> Sep 24 10:02PM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear friends,
>
> >    A note on why Banks have to pay both 5 Years (Regulation 29(5)) and 50%
> >    pay benefits.  Please you can make use of the information provided.
>
> >    Thanks, a Million.
>
> >    more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/a659fe8884a806cf>
>
> >    Sumati M <c.suma...@gmail.com> Sep 25 07:52AM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> ...
>
> read more »

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Sep 26, 2011, 1:32:18 AM9/26/11
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Dear Sir,

Pl find some more views in connection with this issue.
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EVERY BANKER MUST PROTEST by DC AHUJA

EVERY BANKER MUST PROTEST AGAINST THE DISCRIMINATORY ATTITUDE OF
GOVERNMENT IN IMPLEMENTING THE AMENDMENT IN GRATUITY ACT 2010 WEF
24/05/2010 (GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES HAVE GOT THE SAME WEF 01/01/2006)

As we all know that the Gratuity Act has been amended and effective
from 24-5-2010 to pay Gratuity maximum to the extent of Rs.10 lacs
whereas the Central Govt. employees got the same w.e.f. 1-1-2006. It
is a great injustice to Private Sector / PSU / BANK and INSURANCE
Sectors.

I have come to know that we can lodge our protest to The Secretary
General, Committee on Petitions, Rajya Sabha, New Delhi-110001 or at
its e-mail : rs...@sansad.nic.in as per Article 350 on the
Constitution of India, we have right to seek its redressal, if a
citizen who has a legitimate grievance against the Government or any
Public Authority.

“Every person shall be entitled to submit a representation for the
redress of any grievance to any Officer or Authority of the Union or a
State in any of the languages used in the Union or in the State, as
the case may be.”

In a Parliamentary democracy like ours, any aggrieved citizen can
quite legitimately seek the assistance or use the good offices of the
elected representatives of the people – the Members of Parliament – to
get his grievances redressed. The Members of Parliament have at their
disposal such parliamentary procedures and devices as Questions, Short
Duration Discussions, Calling Attention Notices, Half-an-hour
Discussions etc. to ventilate people’s grievances. Through these
devices, they can also question the propriety of policies and measures
or actions and lapses of the Government, to highlight the problems or
to redress the grievances of the people.

I have written a small paragraph but this is not good enough to
protest our case. From this platform, I request that a suitable letter
should be drafted to be sent to the Committee on Petitions, New Delhi
and too from all effected employees, who retired between 1-1-2006 to
23-5-2010.

It is a great injustice with the employees of Private Sector / PSU /
BANKS & INSURANCE Sectors as the date of implementation of Gratuity is
w.e.f. 24-5-2010. The Govt. implemented 6th Pay Commission with a view
to please the Govt. employees in view of the forthcoming election in
the year 2008. It took Govt. more than two years to move the Gratuity
Bill before the Parliamentary Committee and then get the bill passed
in the Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha. The Bill was moved only when most of
the Trade Unions met the Labour Minister from time to time, whereas it
would have been moved in the year 2008 itself after implementation of
6th Pay Commission.

It means the Bill was delayed deliberately to give benefit to the
Industrialists and others better known to Govt.. Most of the PSU /
BANKS / INSURANCE COs. And Private Sectors are earning profit and are
the back bone of the country whereas the Govt. is paying salary to the
employees with deficit budget every year. Is this not a great
INJUSTICE ? Is this not inequality as per our CONSTITUTION. Please
think of this……..

WE ONCE AGAIN REQUEST THE HON'BLE PRESIDENT OF INDIA AS WELL AS THE
HON'BLE PRIME MINISTER & LABOUR MINISTER TO CHANGE THE DATE OF
IMPLEMENTATION OF GRATUITY W.E.F. 1-1-2006 AND NOT FROM 24-5-2010
BEING THE RIGHT OF EQUALITY AS MENTIONED IN OUR CONSTITUTION.

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:01 pm
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Just for information only.

With regards
S.M.BASHA


On Sep 25, 9:14 pm, yagneswaran manickam <manicka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >    - Pension option for those retired after 27.4.2010 and date of
> >    introduction of scheme <#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_0> [1 Update]
> >    - DA - 100% Neutralization & Pension Updation<#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_1>[1 Update]
> >    - Gratuity discrimination. <#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_2> [11
> >    Updates]
> >    - TBRF Meeting-23.9.11-at Tirunelveli.<#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_3>[1 Update]
> >    - Note on why bank have to pay 5 Year and 50% Benefit<#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_4>[2 Updates]
> >    - FW: letter to Mr. Nadaf <#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_5> [1 Update]
> >    - another letter by AIBOC <#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_6> [4
> >    Updates]
> >    - 5years notional weightage <#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_7> [1
> >    Update]
> >    - Payment of arrears for 5 year addtion.<#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_8>[2 Updates]
> >    - GRATUITY ENHANCEMENT <#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_9> [1 Update]
> >    - Who prevented me from taking up a job in SBI?<#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_10>[1 Update]
> >    - MY TWO VRS - VERY RARE STORY <#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_11> [4
> >    Updates]
> >    - your mail <#132a073b964a7184_group_thread_12> [1 Update]
>
> >   Topic: Pension option for those retired after 27.4.2010 and date of
> > introduction of scheme<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/t/15f9df4513e1ddcb>
>
> >    Prasad C N <cn_prasa...@yahoo.com> Sep 25 05:08PM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear friends,
>
> >    I have received reliable information that the Banks have received
> >    instruction to extend benefit of opting for Pension, for those who retired
> >    after 27.4.2010 and date of acceptance of more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/9d321f20f33ed277>
>
> >   Topic: DA - 100% Neutralization & Pension Updation<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/t/ea9a23838ba32376>
>
> >    "sudershan pal kharbanda" <sp...@rediffmail.com> Sep 25 10:37AM ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear friends
> >    I hope the following will clarify all doubts about 100% neutralization
> >    of DA as well as about updation.
> >    A&gt; AS REGARDS DA CALCULATION, before signing of 8th BPS, all bank
> >    staff / more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/158bdfe4af1058a2>
>
> >   Topic: Gratuity discrimination.<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/t/346cdada0c6423ee>
>
> >    Prasad C N <cn_prasa...@yahoo.com> Sep 24 05:13PM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear Mr.Sastry,
>
> >    I have already made known my views in this matter earlier.  In fact, I
> >    had discussion with some of the Senior Trade Union leaders regarding this
> >    issue of payment of Gratuity from more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/63bda0a32886fc5>
>
> >    venkat rao <venkatra...@yahoo.co.in> Sep 24 08:02PM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear  Friends,
> >    The reason for not demanding enhanced gratuity from 01/01/2006 is very
> >    strange.If that is the case, why you people are demanding 100%
> >    nutralisation,5years addition for pension and more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/e4dc880dfd1a2619>
>
> >    Prasad C N <cn_prasa...@yahoo.com> Sep 24 09:55PM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear Mr.Venkat Rao,
>
> >    Please go through my mail again.  I have not said that the Banks does
> >    not have capacity to pay. Certainly, the Banks have the capacity to pay.
> >     That is what my friend has more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/3aa3f13db462cfa9>
>
> >    Prasad C N <cn_prasa...@yahoo.com> Sep 24 09:57PM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear Mr.Venkat Rao,
>
> >    Please go through my mail again.  I have not said that the Banks does
> >    not have capacity to pay. Certainly, the Banks have the capacity to pay.
> >     That is what my friend has more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/aaf28de9e6597621>
>
> >    bass <basha_4...@rediffmail.com> Sep 24 12:18PM -0700 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear Sir,
>
> >    A lot of discussion was made on the demand for extension of enhanced
> >    gratuity from 1.1.2006 instead of 24.5.2010 in this blog that too very
> >    recently. Whatever said to be the view of more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/9ce291bf8535bdf9>
>
> >    bass <basha_4...@rediffmail.com> Sep 24 01:05PM -0700 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear Sir,
>
> >    The question itself is wrong.
>
> >    Only managements will ask like this.
>
> >    When both hands are necessary, how a person can say one hand is
> >    important than the other.
>
> >    Correct answer from more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/55611f99ac9196e3>
>
> >    bass <basha_4...@rediffmail.com> Sep 24 10:50PM -0700 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear Sir,
>
> >    I furnish hereunder some views about this gratuity issue, for your
> >    information.
>
> >    SBI Pensioners Association(Bengal Circle) Kolkata Zonal Committee
>
> >    ALL RETIRED PERSON SHOULD RAISE more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/42403789513bc617>
>
> >    Prasad C N <cn_prasa...@yahoo.com> Sep 25 11:29AM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear friends,
>
> >    Perhaps, many a times I personally feel that I should not debate in
> >    this group.  If one says you are entitled to get benefit, even if you are
> >    not, that person is a positive person. more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/c937854e810d5dbf>
>
> >    Natrajan Balasubramanian <nat.b...@gmail.com> Sep 24 08:25PM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    THE VIEWS OF SHRI PRASADJI DO NOT APPEAR TO BE SOUND. THERE IS NO
> >    CORELATION BETWEEN ENHANCED GRATUITY VS 100% DA NEUTRALISATION.
>
> >    ENHANCED GRATUITY IS SOUGHT BY PERSONS RETIRED AFTER 01.01.2006 more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/d63c56f6be3c86ce>
>
> >    bhaskara sarma <pbsarm...@gmail.com> Sep 24 10:06PM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    DEAR VENKAT RAO,
> >    I DO FULLY AGREE WITH YOU AND ALL THE DEMANDS ARE EQUALLY IMPORTANT AND
> >    THE
> >    UNIONS/ASSOCIATIONS HAVE TO TAKE UP THE ISSUES AND TRY TO SETTLE THEM
> >    SINCERELY.FIGHTING AMONG OURSELVES more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/4e312dd475e739be>
>
> >    "Venkata S.Akella CFE" <akella.venk...@gmail.com> Sep 25 01:33PM +0530
> >    ^ <#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear M/s.Prasad & Basha,
>
> >    I have been closely following the email-discussions/debates as well as
> >    friendly guidance and support/advise etc.
> >    provided by brothers like you, Mr.Basha and many others.. more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/ccd3af20edf3e1a>
>
> >   Topic: TBRF Meeting-23.9.11-at Tirunelveli.<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/t/5f8790ee470def59>
>
> >    Mohan badi <banking_facu...@yahoo.com> Sep 25 12:02AM -0700 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear Padmanabhan Sir ,
> >    Please advise me how to be the member of your group. so that I shall do
> >    the needful .I mean that of ABRF. I am new to this pensioners group. My case
> >    is pending in  high court more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/652c1bc84130de16>
>
> >   Topic: Note on why bank have to pay 5 Year and 50% Benefit<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/t/4947defb328af527>
>
> >    Prasad C N <cn_prasa...@yahoo.com> Sep 24 10:02PM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> >    Dear friends,
>
> >    A note on why Banks have to pay both 5 Years (Regulation 29(5)) and 50%
> >    pay benefits.  Please you can make use of the information provided.
>
> >    Thanks, a Million.
>
> >    more<http://groups.google.com/group/bankpensioner/msg/a659fe8884a806cf>
>
> >    Sumati M <c.suma...@gmail.com> Sep 25 07:52AM +0530 ^<#132a073b964a7184_digest_top>
>
> ...
>
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