Re: Cotse Fraud
Borked Pseudo Mailed
> Privacy shield or Anonymous, both are on your web site. Which is it
assholes?, why do you have anonymous on your site you fucking scammers!
> I thought no one can make you anonymous, especially you. LIARS
>
>
At first I didn't believe you, I had to see this for myself. Could the
revered cotse that haunts your dreams be guilty of blasphemy and worthy
of scorn? If it was true it would shine a light on everything and give
me a new perspective on why I should continue not to care. So I checked
it out, using Tor of course, I wanted to be safe after seeing privacy
services in action in here. After reading what their pages say I only
can come to one conclusion, WTF are you smoking?
Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
Technically, the words "anonymous" and "anonymity" do appear in the meta-
tags of the main page, for search hit purposes.
<meta name="description" content="Cotse.Net Privacy Service, a
Packetderm LLC Company. Focusing on providing the very best privacy
service on the Internet.">
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pop, smtp, based, certificate, total, affordable, reliable, hidden,
hide, support, help, quality, blacklist, whitelist, whitelisting,
goldlist, goldlisting, block, pseudo, parental, content, banned,
vocabulary, aliases, unlimited, censorship, freedom of speech,
stunnel, ctunnel, tunneling, spyware, virus, worm, Trojan, pop3,
pop3s,
pop-ssl, smtp-ssl, popssl, smtpssl, cyberstalking, cyberstalkers,
identity theft, cyber-stalking, cyber-stalker">
Anonymous Sender
Wiener.
Anonymous Sender
> In article <d4b51a8308561222...@pseudo.borked.net>
> Borked Pseudo Mailed <nob...@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
>>
>> but...@anomail.com wrote:
>>
>> > Privacy shield or Anonymous, both are on your web site. Which is it
>> assholes?, why do you have anonymous on your site you fucking scammers!
>> > I thought no one can make you anonymous, especially you. LIARS
>> >
>> >
>>
>> At first I didn't believe you, I had to see this for myself. Could the
>> revered cotse that haunts your dreams be guilty of blasphemy and worthy
>> of scorn? If it was true it would shine a light on everything and give
>> me a new perspective on why I should continue not to care. So I checked
>> it out, using Tor of course, I wanted to be safe after seeing privacy
>> services in action in here. After reading what their pages say I only
>> can come to one conclusion, WTF are you smoking?
>
> Technically, the words "anonymous" and "anonymity" do appear in the meta-
> tags of the main page, for search hit purposes.
That's it? After dozens of verified cites and endless months of gnawing
away at privacy.li until even the shiny white sun-bleached bones of their
credibility are gone, meta tags are the very best counterattack they can
mount? Their "secret weapon"? The proverbial ace-in-the-hole?
Wow. You almost have to feel sorry for the poor slobs.
traveller 66
> Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
>
>> In article <d4b51a8308561222...@pseudo.borked.net>
>> Borked Pseudo Mailed <nob...@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> but...@anomail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> > Privacy shield or Anonymous, both are on your web site. Which is it
>>> assholes?, why do you have anonymous on your site you fucking scammers!
>>> > I thought no one can make you anonymous, especially you. LIARS
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> At first I didn't believe you, I had to see this for myself. Could the
>>> revered cotse that haunts your dreams be guilty of blasphemy and worthy
>>> of scorn? If it was true it would shine a light on everything and give
>>> me a new perspective on why I should continue not to care. So I checked
>>> it out, using Tor of course, I wanted to be safe after seeing privacy
>>> services in action in here. After reading what their pages say I only
>>> can come to one conclusion, WTF are you smoking?
>>
>> Technically, the words "anonymous" and "anonymity" do appear in the meta-
>> tags of the main page, for search hit purposes.
>
> That's it? After dozens of verified cites and endless months of gnawing
> away at privacy.li until even the shiny white sun-bleached bones of their
> credibility are gone, meta tags are the very best counterattack they can
> mount? Their "secret weapon"? The proverbial ace-in-the-hole?
>
> Wow. You almost have to feel sorry for the poor slobs.
I don't have an interest in privacy.li, but I actually feel sorry for you.
You've resorted to trolling them and others with garbage. I did a google
search and found a post from a self identified cotse helpdesk person going
back a while now that confirms that Mr. Gielda doesn't always sign his
posts.
How would you people like someone posting up created FUD about him or any
of you as fact and spamming it up on usenet? Speaking about your trolls on
me, anyone who can read headers can see what your doing.
I haven't taken the time to check all of what you've said about another
privacy service, but seeing what you've been up to so far I bet half of
it's lies and the other half just half truths, or maybe some truths.
All in all, just keep in mind that no one is FUDING you with the kind
garbage your peddling on others, and it wouldn't be hard to do. You're not
the only ones that can post up FUD on people. That should say allot about
the kind of trolls you are.
Go have your meltdown somewhere else.
Anonymous
> I don't have an interest in privacy.li, but I actually feel sorry for you.
Judging from the way you've let privacy.lie deteriorate into such a
disaster and don't care to fix even the most routine problems, you
obviously don't have an interest in privacy.lie per say. It's quite clear
to everyone by now that your only interest is scamming people out of their
money without doing any work at all.
I suppose the only ones to really bear the blame for that should be your
parents. And possibly theirs in turn.
> You've resorted to trolling them and others with garbage. I did a google
> search and found a post from a self identified cotse helpdesk person
> going back a while now that confirms that Mr. Gielda doesn't always sign
> his posts.
Liar. If you found such a post you would have been screaming about it over
and over just like you screamed about people's IP addresses until you were
spanked so hard you cowered away from that particular rant like a whipped
puppy.
> How would you people like someone posting up created FUD about him or any
You mean "Created FUD" like this, that multiple posters have confirmed as
factual now? The "proof with headers" that you whined like a spanked bitch
about for a month? <snicker>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/browse_thread/thread/5782f0f6f5552152/385119af1d32a5ae
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/msg/385119af1d32a5ae?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/msg/67741086f2ff3eb4 (reposted admission)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/msg/7f706a505f078bec (threaded admission)
> of you as fact and spamming it up on usenet? Speaking about your trolls
> on me, anyone who can read headers can see what your doing.
Yup. And that's exactly what they're doing. That's why you've lost. People
aren't stupid enough to fall for your bullshit. They see right through it.
> I haven't taken the time to check
That's an understatement. Your total lack of initiative hot only makes you
look like a bumbling dullard much of the time, it's no doubt at the core
of why your affairs are in such disarray.
> All in all, just keep in mind that no one is FUDING you with the kind
> garbage your peddling
You misspelled "you're", just like all your sock puppets do when you get
frustrated to the point of breaking with reality by a community who has
become quite good at dissecting and managing your every move.
> Go have your meltdown somewhere else.
Mr. Pot, there a call for you on line one. It's Mr. Kettle.
<laugh>
Anonymous
Well duh. Mr. Gielda hasn't signed a Usenet post in ages, and what's that
have to do with the price of beans? I'm certainly not a cotse troll, I
just enjoy crushing a crooked outfit like privacy.li as a cigarette butt
under my boot.
> How would you people like someone posting up created FUD about him or any
> of you as fact and spamming it up on usenet? Speaking about your trolls on
> me, anyone who can read headers can see what your doing.
Go for it! We're waiting (and no, "Gilda and kotze suck" doesn't count).
Give some good, really believable technical FUD about cotse, or anybody
else. Sorry it won't approach the TRUTH about privacy.li, but you could at
least TRY for some good FUD.
>
> I haven't taken the time to check all of what you've said about another
> privacy service, but seeing what you've been up to so far I bet half of
> it's lies and the other half just half truths, or maybe some truths.
>
> All in all, just keep in mind that no one is FUDING you with the kind
> garbage your peddling on others, and it wouldn't be hard to do. You're not
> the only ones that can post up FUD on people. That should say allot about
> the kind of trolls you are.
One man's troll is another man's hero.
Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
> Go for it! We're waiting (and no, "Gilda and kotze suck" doesn't count).
> Give some good, really believable technical FUD about cotse, or anybody
> else. Sorry it won't approach the TRUTH about privacy.li,
Pardon the interruption, but is this the truth you're referring to?
** The Truth About Privacy.LIE **
Privacy.LIE sock puppet "traveller 66" exposes himself as a pedophile.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/browse_thread/thread/5782f0f6f5552152/385119af1d32a5ae
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/msg/385119af1d32a5ae?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/msg/67741086f2ff3eb4 (reposted admission)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/msg/7f706a505f078bec (threaded admission)
Privacy.LIE sock puppet traveller/Eggplant confesses to pedophilia.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/msg/21d4c408a0409dc5
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/msg/a02efcc71c44c767
Privacy.LIE sock puppet traveller/Eggplant pretends to argue with himself.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/msg/31216dc836c9b7f6
Privacy.LIE outs one of their customers. Sort of.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy.anon-server/msg/558546787dbea60b?dmode=source
Privacy.LIE fails to ID yet another Tor node, about a week later.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/msg/ea548e09d2de8558?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/msg/31fc61d49f980a06?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/msg/4dc7f83685450adb?dmode=source
Privacy.LIE's "security" is exposed.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/browse_thread/thread/b79bfb855c3cdf10/570b6341770f8a78
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/msg/c61ababa5bf5f746?dmode=source
Privacy.LIE "fixes" their security issues.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/browse_thread/thread/357ace4cfc6fe976/56cd101c25c5830b
The world's most recognized security expert dissects Privacy.LIE,
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/07/the_doghouse_pr.html
Privacy.LIE engages in nymhopping to defend themselves.
http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/07/09/privacyli-not-to-be-trusted/
Historical Privacy.LIE theft.
http://www.appleby.net/privacy.html
Privacy.LIE theft today.
anon
news:behvvhtkrbg8nnek4...@4ax.com:
> On Monday, 25 Jun 2007 07:43:26 -0600, but...@anomail.com wrote:
>
>>Privacy shield or Anonymous, both are on your web site. Which is it
>>assholes?, why do you have anonymous on your site you fucking
>>scammers!
>> I thought no one can make you anonymous, especially you. LIARS
>>
>
oh?
Overview of Web Proxies
Support: Basics: Web Proxies
If you've never used a web proxy and have no idea why you need one, this
section is for you. In order to understand the importance of proxies in
protecting your family's privacy and security, it is helpful to start by
pointing out how much information you're revealing or risking if you do
not use a proxy when you surf the web or visit web sites.
So let's start this discussion with a little check or test. Click on this
link to use our proxy checker . You will see a page of data indicating
what information is available to any web site you visit. For now, just
scroll down the results page and look at the entry for REMOTE_ADDR. If you
are not accessing that site from behind a proxy, what you are seeing is
your own Internet Protocol (IP) address.
As we discussed in the overview of email protocols that Cotse.Net
supports, your IP is the Internet equivalent of your postal street
address. By using any number of freely available tools on the Internet,
people may be able to track your IP to see what area you're in. And if
your IP remains unchanging for a while, then they know exactly where
*your* computer is on the Internet and can try to access it remotely.
Using a proxy helps you hide your true IP from web sites you visit.
Instead of the web site seeing/logging your IP, all it gets is the IP of
the proxy you are using (in our case, one of our IPs). Please note that if
the web site has java/javascript or some other code to run local in your
browser, that could effectively remove the shield the proxy provides.
Web proxies may also protect you by stripping out ads, blocking popups,
and blocking javascript. Cotse.Net's proxies block malicious javascript,
ads, and other annoyances. They are also offered unfiltered if you'd
prefer to run your own local filtering.
To find out what a particular proxy actually can do for you, you need to
read its descriptions and limits.
To illustrate the privacy value of a proxy, consider the following
scenario that represents the unproxied connection. Let's assume that in
this example, you have connected to a web site (web site A), after which
you visit a second web site (Web Site B). Although it may seem as if you
are making direct connections, remember that you are actually connecting
to these sites (which themselves sit on remote web servers) via your ISP
(Internet Service Provider).
In the unproxied state scenario above:
Your ISP can see that you connected to Web Site A and that you then went
on to Web Site B.
Web Site A can see your IP, what OS (operating system) you are using, what
site you were on before you came there, what pages you visited on their
site, and where you went after you left their site.
Web Site B can see your IP, what OS you are using, that you came from Web
Site A, what pages you visited on Site B, and where you went when you left
there.
If you use a plain http web proxy, however, the situation changes. With a
plain http proxy:
Your ISP can see that you connected to the proxy and that you then went to
Web Site A and Web Site B
Web Site A can no longer see your IP. They see the proxy's IP, which
protects much of your privacy.
Web Site B can also no longer see your IP and sees only the proxy's IP.
As you can see, the proxy has added some protection for you, but you can
see that your ISP still has the ability to monitor or track your
activities on the Web. To prevent them from seeing where you're going, you
need to add in another layer of security or to somehow encrypt your
communication so that it cannot be intercepted. One way to accomplish this
is by adding Stunnel to your setup. Stunnel essentially provides you with
SSL (Secure Sockets Layer) functionality for your non-SSL connections such
as http.
By adding Stunnel to your browser configuration, your ISP can tell that
there's activity/traffic from your IP, but they can't see where you're
going.
CAUTION: Java runs on YOUR local machine. Java can break your anonymity.
With the Cotse.Net proxy, java trying to connect back to you will cause
another authentication (proxy login) prompt. Deny it if anonymity is
important to you (click cancel until it stops prompting).
If anonymity is very important, disable java in your browser. There is no
way to guarantee anonymity if you let applications run on your local
machine from the web. You run them at your own risk.
At Cotse.Net, we provide two different methods of using our anonymous
proxies. One is via a web interface. Log into our site, type a url into
the proxy, click go, and surf away. The proxy strips your personal
information and shields you from the sites you visit. They cannot tell who
you are, so you are protected from them. In addition the web interface can
be accessed via high encryption. This protects you from your ISP or anyone
along the way snooping on what you surf. We also offer a cookie manager
and the ability to encode urls to protect them in your browser history.
The next method of anonymous proxy we offer is one that you can configure
in your browser and go. You don't have to use our web site to surf,
anywhere you surf is automatically protected by us. Our proxy removes
advertisements, popups and pop unders, kick throughs (ads that
automatically redirect you if you move your mouse over them), web based
viruses, and malicious javascript. It also hides your Internet address and
hides the software you use. All effortlessly because it was configured
once in your browser. As with all services this is available via high
encryption to protect you from others snooping.
<title>Privacy Service</title>
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<style type="text/css">
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font { font-family : Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif }
EM { font-variant : small-caps;
font-style : normal }
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</style>
<meta name="description" content="Privacy Service, private e-mail, private
web surfing, private IM, and more.">
<meta name="keywords" content="Privacy Service, e-mail, email, web
hosting, ssh tunnel, ssh, anonymous, IM">
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>Privacy shield or Anonymous, both are on your web site. Which is it assholes?, why do you have anonymous on your site you fucking scammers!
> I thought no one can make you anonymous, especially you. LIARS
>
>
>
I've used Cotse for years. Out of curiousity, why exactly is Cotse a
fraud?