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[Ash Wurthing]

## The duncery, he knows not his Kipling!

"and should be their leader some day."
"They [Bander-log] have no leader," said Bagheera. "They lie. They have always lied."

## Now since the only one claiming that there is a leader is Dance, he must be Bander-log liar!
How embarrassing, the Bander-log sound so much like certain misfits who fling, like feces, the Bander-log label around here, who in selfishness, shamelessly spam for attention here:

"The Jungle-People put them [Bander-log] out of their mouths and out of their minds. They are very many, evil, dirty, shameless, and they desire, if they have any fixed desire, TO BE NOTICED by the Jungle People."

## Dunce and his may say it describes their foes, but it definitely describes themselves so shamefully...

"Listen, man-cub," said the Bear, and his voice rumbled like thunder on a hot night. "I have taught thee all the Law of the Jungle for all the peoples of the jungle--except the Monkey-Folk who live in the trees. They have no law. They are OUTCASTS. They have no speech of their own, but use the stolen words which they overhear when they listen, and peep, and wait up above in the branches. Their way is not our way. They are without leaders. They have no remembrance. They boast and chatter and pretend that they are a great people about to do great affairs in the jungle, but the falling of a nut turns their minds to laughter and all is forgotten."

[Bander-log] would throw sticks and nuts at any beast for fun and in the hope of BEING NOTICED. Then they would howl and shriek senseless songs, ... They were always just going to have a leader, and laws and customs of their own, but they never did, because their memories would not hold over from day to day, and so they compromised things by making up a saying, "What the Bandar-log think now the jungle will think later,"

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[Ash Wurthing]

Lo7, I get the impression that some are not amused...

[Ash Wurthing]

nope, not amused at all

[George Dance]

On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:26:57 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:

<yawn> The Bandar-Log are clattering for my attention again.

> ## The duncery, he knows not his Kipling!
> "and should be their leader some day."
> "They [Bander-log] have no leader," said Bagheera. "They lie. They have always lied."

Obviously, since aapc's Bandar-Log do have a Monkey King, they have a different role model: not Kipling, but Disney.

"The Bandar-log, or Monkey People, are minor antagonists in Disney's The Jungle Book. They roam the ruins of an ancient city, and are ruled by King Louie." https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Bandar-log
- just as our Bandar-Log are ruled by King Michael Monkey. But, since he and they do lie and say they don't have a leader, Bagheera's second and third sentence still apply. "They lie. They have always lied."

> ## Now since the only one claiming that there is a leader is Dance, he must be Bander-log liar!

If you didn't serve your Monkey King, Astroll, he wouldn't "publish" you.

> How embarrassing, the Bander-log sound so much like certain misfits who fling, like feces, the Bander-log label around here, who in selfishness, shamelessly spam for attention here:
>
> "The Jungle-People put them [Bander-log] out of their mouths and out of their minds. They are very many, evil, dirty, shameless, and they desire, if they have any fixed desire, TO BE NOTICED by the Jungle People."
>
> ## Dunce and his may say it describes their foes

To a tee.

[Michael Pendragon]

On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:18:40 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:26:57 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> <yawn> The Bandar-Log are clattering for my attention again.
> > ## The duncery, he knows not his Kipling!
> > "and should be their leader some day."
> > "They [Bander-log] have no leader," said Bagheera. "They lie. They have always lied."
> Obviously, since aapc's Bandar-Log do have a Monkey King, they have a different role model: not Kipling, but Disney.

So much for Dunce's pretensions to literacy.

> "The Bandar-log, or Monkey People, are minor antagonists in Disney's The Jungle Book. They roam the ruins of an ancient city, and are ruled by King Louie." https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Bandar-log
> - just as our Bandar-Log are ruled by King Michael Monkey. But, since he and they do lie and say they don't have a leader, Bagheera's second and third sentence still apply. "They lie. They have always lied."
>

Since no such "Bandar-Log" exists (except in your paranoid delusions), one might make the same observation regarding yourself.

> > ## Now since the only one claiming that there is a leader is Dance, he must be Bander-log liar!
> If you didn't serve your Monkey King, Astroll, he wouldn't "publish" you.

I published your poetry, Dunce.

Are you under the delusion that you were serving me at the time?

For the record, "AYoS" is a successor to "The Sunday Sampler." As such, it is intended to provide a sample of the poetry of *each* of the AAPC poets.

Only three individuals have ever been excluded from the "Sampler"/"AYoS":

1) Will Donkey was excluded for continually picking fights in the "Sampler" threads, and effectively brought about the demise of that fine publication by driving its editor, Mr. Senetto, to shut it down.

2) George Sulzbach was excluded for spamming the thread with protests when Mr. Senetto "x"d his poem after it had been determined to be nothing more than a slight reworking of his "Dirty Mike"/"Loretta" poem (which had already been published in "The Sampler").

3) George "Baby Monkey" Dance was banned from "AYoS" for falsely accusing its editor/publisher of prejudicial practices in the selection of poems for the magazine (again, as you are well aware, (*all* of the submitted poems are *automatically* included in the monthly issue).

I understand that you suffer from terminal butthurt, but... get over it. You brought about your own exclusion with your false accusations. You have no one to blame but yourself.

> > How embarrassing, the Bander-log sound so much like certain misfits who fling, like feces, the Bander-log label around here, who in selfishness, shamelessly spam for attention here:
> >
> > "The Jungle-People put them [Bander-log] out of their mouths and out of their minds. They are very many, evil, dirty, shameless, and they desire, if they have any fixed desire, TO BE NOTICED by the Jungle People."
> >
> > ## Dunce and his may say it describes their foes
> To a tee.

Dunce just post edited Ashe's statement in order to change its meaning.

Here is what Ash actually wrote: Dunce and his may say it describes their foes, but it definitely describes themselves so shamefully..."

George Dance *proves* Ash's statement "to a tee" with the above.

[ME]

😎👍

[Ash Wurthing]

QUITE SPECTACULARLY HE DOES! Dunce can always be counted on that, his tat obsession, his deceptive truth spinning to weave his twisted self serving narrative gets the better of the supposed ethics he claims to have.

[George Dance]

On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:17:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:18:40 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:26:57 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > <yawn> The Bandar-Log are clattering for my attention again.
> > > ## The duncery, he knows not his Kipling!
> > > "and should be their leader some day."
> > > "They [Bander-log] have no leader," said Bagheera. "They lie. They have always lied."
> > Obviously, since aapc's Bandar-Log do have a Monkey King, they have a different role model: not Kipling, but Disney.
> So much for Dunce's pretensions to literacy.
> > "The Bandar-log, or Monkey People, are minor antagonists in Disney's The Jungle Book. They roam the ruins of an ancient city, and are ruled by King Louie." https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Bandar-log
> > - just as our Bandar-Log are ruled by King Michael Monkey. But, since he and they do lie and say they don't have a leader, Bagheera's second and third sentence still apply. "They lie. They have always lied."
> >
> Since no such "Bandar-Log" exists (except in your paranoid delusions), one might make the same observation regarding yourself.





> > > ## Now since the only one claiming that there is a leader is Dance, he must be Bander-log liar!
> > If you didn't serve your Monkey King, Astroll, he wouldn't "publish" you.

> I published your poetry, Dunce.
> Are you under the delusion that you were serving me at the time?

I certainly was, Monkey. Not only was I leaving your "non-existent" Bandar-Log free to attack other aapc members with impunity, but I was giving your Chimp poetry for his Sampler, and even (as you note) letting you have your pick of it to launch your anthology. I was also bringing in poets to this group, all of which you and your "non-existent" Bandar-Log drove away. In return, you stopped calling me plagiarist, pedophile, cunt, and all your other endearments -- until you felt like starting up again.

> For the record, "AYoS" is a successor to "The Sunday Sampler." As such, it is intended to provide a sample of the poetry of *each* of the AAPC poets.

For the record, Michael Monkey's first AYoS anthology was the zombified corpse of his Chimp's Sunday Sampler. Since then it's been a vanity project for the Bandar-Log: a chapbook in which a "friend" "publishes" their "poetry".

*(Yes, Michael Monkey will "publish" one poem per year from any non-Bandar-Log as well. He needs more "poets" in order to get his vanity publication listed on P&W.)

> Only three individuals have ever been excluded from the "Sampler"/"AYoS":

> 1) Will Donkey was excluded for continually picking fights in the "Sampler" threads, and effectively brought about the demise of that fine publication by driving its editor, Mr. Senetto, to shut it down.
> 2) George Sulzbach was excluded for spamming the thread with protests when Mr. Senetto "x"d his poem after it had been determined to be nothing more than a slight reworking of his "Dirty Mike"/"Loretta" poem (which had already been published in "The Sampler").
> 3) George "Baby Monkey" Dance was banned from "AYoS" for falsely accusing its editor/publisher of prejudicial practices in the selection of poems for the magazine (again, as you are well aware, (*all* of the submitted poems are *automatically* included in the monthly issue).

Leaving aside the truth of your above stories about Will and Zod (in my case, IIRC, you had a tantrum and "banned" me for calling your vanity project a vanity project), I'll note that none of those three were letting you use any of their poetry at the time you "banned" them. I've banned you and the Chimp from PPB, where I used to publish you, in the same way. Are you "butthurt" about that?

>
> I understand that you suffer from terminal butthurt, but... get over it. You brought about your own exclusion with your false accusations. You have no one to blame but yourself.

If I'm 'butthurt' about anything regarding AYoS, it's for giving you a third chance and letting you use those poems I'd written for the Sampler, which I'm still trying to get out. But it's my own fault; I've always trusted other people, sometimes to excess.

<snip>

[Ash Wurthing]

On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:18:40 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:

> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:26:57 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> <yawn> The Bandar-Log are clattering for my attention again.
> > ## The duncery, he knows not his Kipling!
> > "and should be their leader some day."
> > "They [Bander-log] have no leader," said Bagheera. "They lie. They have always lied."
> Obviously, since aapc's Bandar-Log do have a Monkey King, they have a different role model: not Kipling, but Disney.

A demonstrated Dunce hand waving his exposed deception again! You claim people are Bander-log based off a false premise!
As Bagheera said, the Bander-log have no leader, yet you so simple mindedly (like Bander-log) base you Bander-log label off
Did you ever claim to be Mensa level intelligence? You must think everyone
Some Libertarian you're supposedly are, taking away people's right to self identity by imperiously declaring like Trump, who we are--
Fucker, you know what I am but afraid to face the truth! "But the wildest of all the wild animals was the Cat. He walked by himself, and all places were alike to him."
--'Just So Stories' Rudyard Kipling

> "The Bandar-log, or Monkey People, are minor antagonists in Disney's The Jungle Book. They roam the ruins of an ancient city, and are ruled by King Louie." https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Bandar-log
> - just as our Bandar-Log are ruled by King Michael Monkey. But, since he and they do lie and say they don't have a leader, Bagheera's second and third sentence still apply. "They lie. They have always lied."
> > ## Now since the only one claiming that there is a leader is Dance, he must be Bander-log liar!
> If you didn't serve your Monkey King, Astroll, he wouldn't "publish" you.

Take you ASSertions to the Disney group then, you first based your ASSertions off of Kipling and now that their shot down, you deflect to Disney like that preempts Kipling that you used in the first place. Some poet wikier you are, resorting to adulterated classical poetry.
So much for your ASSertions. Anon and Last Dance do not get involved in things here, Pendragon publishes them. The FB poets don't get involved here, Pendragon publishes them. Mabool keeps to himself, is friendly with Dockery, Pendragon publishes him. I believe HC got himself booted from SS, Pendragon still published him.

[Michael Pendragon]

On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:08:12 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:17:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:18:40 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:26:57 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > <yawn> The Bandar-Log are clattering for my attention again.
> > > > ## The duncery, he knows not his Kipling!
> > > > "and should be their leader some day."
> > > > "They [Bander-log] have no leader," said Bagheera. "They lie. They have always lied."
> > > Obviously, since aapc's Bandar-Log do have a Monkey King, they have a different role model: not Kipling, but Disney.
> > So much for Dunce's pretensions to literacy.
> > > "The Bandar-log, or Monkey People, are minor antagonists in Disney's The Jungle Book. They roam the ruins of an ancient city, and are ruled by King Louie." https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Bandar-log
> > > - just as our Bandar-Log are ruled by King Michael Monkey. But, since he and they do lie and say they don't have a leader, Bagheera's second and third sentence still apply. "They lie. They have always lied."
> > >
> > Since no such "Bandar-Log" exists (except in your paranoid delusions), one might make the same observation regarding yourself.
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > ## Now since the only one claiming that there is a leader is Dance, he must be Bander-log liar!
> > > If you didn't serve your Monkey King, Astroll, he wouldn't "publish" you.
>
> > I published your poetry, Dunce.
> > Are you under the delusion that you were serving me at the time?
> I certainly was, Monkey. Not only was I leaving your "non-existent" Bandar-Log free to attack other aapc members with impunity, but I was giving your Chimp poetry for his Sampler, and even (as you note) letting you have your pick of it to launch your anthology. I was also bringing in poets to this group, all of which you and your "non-existent" Bandar-Log drove away. In return, you stopped calling me plagiarist, pedophile, cunt, and all your other endearments -- until you felt like starting up again.
>

If you believe any of that, you're even more delusional than I thought.

> > For the record, "AYoS" is a successor to "The Sunday Sampler." As such, it is intended to provide a sample of the poetry of *each* of the AAPC poets.
> For the record, Michael Monkey's first AYoS anthology was the zombified corpse of his Chimp's Sunday Sampler. Since then it's been a vanity project for the Bandar-Log: a chapbook in which a "friend" "publishes" their "poetry".
>

Like I said, Dunce; anyone who submits a poem, either here or on the FB page, gets "published" in the monthly online version. That's what a "sampler" is.

> *(Yes, Michael Monkey will "publish" one poem per year from any non-Bandar-Log as well. He needs more "poets" in order to get his vanity publication listed on P&W.)

I publish whichever poems I feel are good enough to be included, and limit the number "Bandar-Log" poems to approximately ten per "member." As the amount of contributions increase, I hope to cut the maximum per poet down to five.

> > Only three individuals have ever been excluded from the "Sampler"/"AYoS":
>
> > 1) Will Donkey was excluded for continually picking fights in the "Sampler" threads, and effectively brought about the demise of that fine publication by driving its editor, Mr. Senetto, to shut it down.
> > 2) George Sulzbach was excluded for spamming the thread with protests when Mr. Senetto "x"d his poem after it had been determined to be nothing more than a slight reworking of his "Dirty Mike"/"Loretta" poem (which had already been published in "The Sampler").
> > 3) George "Baby Monkey" Dance was banned from "AYoS" for falsely accusing its editor/publisher of prejudicial practices in the selection of poems for the magazine (again, as you are well aware, (*all* of the submitted poems are *automatically* included in the monthly issue).
> Leaving aside the truth of your above stories about Will and Zod (in my case, IIRC, you had a tantrum and "banned" me for calling your vanity project a vanity project), I'll note that none of those three were letting you use any of their poetry at the time you "banned" them. I've banned you and the Chimp from PPB, where I used to publish you, in the same way. Are you "butthurt" about that?
> >

More lies, Dunce. Sulzbach threw a tantrum when Jim cut his fifth reworking of the "Dirty Mike"/"Loretta" poem from "The Sampler" and it was his disruptive tantrum that got him banned. He remained banned from "AYoS" as well, because IMHO "AYoS" is a continuation of "The Sampler."

As for the Donkey, we have it straight from the jackass's mouth that he only stopped submitting poetry to "The Sampler" *after* he'd been banned: "(W)hen... I was banned... I decided that the time was definitely right to leave."

And, as per you, you were not banned for calling "AYoS" a "vanity" (although, it fails to meed the criteria for such a designation), but for falsely accusing me of editorial prejudice -- just as you're doing now. Some dunces never learn from their mistakes.

> > I understand that you suffer from terminal butthurt, but... get over it. You brought about your own exclusion with your false accusations. You have no one to blame but yourself.
> If I'm 'butthurt' about anything regarding AYoS, it's for giving you a third chance and letting you use those poems I'd written for the Sampler, which I'm still trying to get out. But it's my own fault; I've always trusted other people, sometimes to excess.
>

Why you lying sack of shit!

I pulled all copies of "AYoS" that contained any poetry by you out of circulation the day you demanded to have your poetry removed.

And, FYI, "AYoS" never published any poetry from "The Sampler." It only published poetry that had been submitted directly to it -- several years after "The Sampler" had been closed down.

[Ash Wurthing]

On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:08:12 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:17:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:18:40 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:26:57 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > <yawn> The Bandar-Log are clattering for my attention again.
> > > > ## The duncery, he knows not his Kipling!
> > > > "and should be their leader some day."
> > > > "They [Bander-log] have no leader," said Bagheera. "They lie. They have always lied."
> > > Obviously, since aapc's Bandar-Log do have a Monkey King, they have a different role model: not Kipling, but Disney.
> > So much for Dunce's pretensions to literacy.
> > > "The Bandar-log, or Monkey People, are minor antagonists in Disney's The Jungle Book. They roam the ruins of an ancient city, and are ruled by King Louie." https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Bandar-log
> > > - just as our Bandar-Log are ruled by King Michael Monkey. But, since he and they do lie and say they don't have a leader, Bagheera's second and third sentence still apply. "They lie. They have always lied."
> > >
> > Since no such "Bandar-Log" exists (except in your paranoid delusions), one might make the same observation regarding yourself.
>
> > > > ## Now since the only one claiming that there is a leader is Dance, he must be Bander-log liar!
> > > If you didn't serve your Monkey King, Astroll, he wouldn't "publish" you.
>
> > I published your poetry, Dunce.
> > Are you under the delusion that you were serving me at the time?
> I certainly was, Monkey. Not only was I leaving your "non-existent" Bandar-Log free to attack other aapc members with impunity, but I was giving your Chimp poetry for his Sampler, and even (as you note) letting you have your pick of it to launch your anthology. I was also bringing in poets to this group, all of which you and your "non-existent" Bandar-Log drove away. In return, you stopped calling me plagiarist, pedophile, cunt, and all your other endearments -- until you felt like starting up again.
> > For the record, "AYoS" is a successor to "The Sunday Sampler." As such, it is intended to provide a sample of the poetry of *each* of the AAPC poets.
> For the record, Michael Monkey's first AYoS anthology was the zombified corpse of his Chimp's Sunday Sampler. Since then it's been a vanity project for the Bandar-Log: a chapbook in which a "friend" "publishes" their "poetry".

So you're saying that only you and your cash cow are the only poets here that can legitimately self publish? You know when you called a friend, Pendragon, publishing work for people a vanity printing, you also labelled you, a friend, publishing your friend's poetry a vanity printing also. But what else should we expect from you but petty hypocrisy, no need for dignity or anything like that, anything just for the tat. PJR's warning, "better person," was so prophetic!!

[George Dance]

On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:55:41 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:08:12 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:17:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:18:40 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:26:57 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > <yawn> The Bandar-Log are clattering for my attention again.
> > > > > ## The duncery, he knows not his Kipling!
> > > > > "and should be their leader some day."
> > > > > "They [Bander-log] have no leader," said Bagheera. "They lie. They have always lied."
> > > > Obviously, since aapc's Bandar-Log do have a Monkey King, they have a different role model: not Kipling, but Disney.
> > > So much for Dunce's pretensions to literacy.
> > > > "The Bandar-log, or Monkey People, are minor antagonists in Disney's The Jungle Book. They roam the ruins of an ancient city, and are ruled by King Louie." https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Bandar-log
> > > > - just as our Bandar-Log are ruled by King Michael Monkey. But, since he and they do lie and say they don't have a leader, Bagheera's second and third sentence still apply. "They lie. They have always lied."
> > > >
> > > Since no such "Bandar-Log" exists (except in your paranoid delusions), one might make the same observation regarding yourself.

As you should know by now, Michael, the "Bandar-Log refers to:
The Monkey -- Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" et al
The Chimp -- Chimp Obsesso aka "Edward Rochester Esq"
and the Big Buffoon -- NastyGoon aka "NancyGene"
and what's left of their flunkies: The Asstroll aka "Ash Wurthing" and the MEatpuppet aka "ME".

Which of those five are you claiming doesn't exist? Do you think none of them exist?

> > > > > ## Now since the only one claiming that there is a leader is Dance, he must be Bander-log liar!
> > > > If you didn't serve your Monkey King, Astroll, he wouldn't "publish" you.
> >
> > > I published your poetry, Dunce.

> > > Are you under the delusion that you were serving me at the time?

> > I certainly was, Monkey. Not only was I leaving your "non-existent" Bandar-Log free to attack other aapc members with impunity, but I was giving your Chimp poetry for his Sampler, and even (as you note) letting you have your pick of it to launch your anthology. I was also bringing in poets to this group, all of which you and your "non-existent" Bandar-Log drove away. In return, you stopped calling me plagiarist, pedophile, cunt, and all your other endearments -- until you felt like starting up again.
> >
> If you believe any of that, you're even more delusional than I thought.

Oh, really? It's easy enough to check that. I believe I gave your Chimp poetry for his Sampler. You just claimed I'm "delusional" if I believe that. IOW, if you're being honest, you believe that I never gave your Chip poetry for his Sampler. But you also believe you "published" some of my poetry. Where do you think you got that poetry you "published"?

> > > For the record, "AYoS" is a successor to "The Sunday Sampler." As such, it is intended to provide a sample of the poetry of *each* of the AAPC poets.
> > For the record, Michael Monkey's first AYoS anthology was the zombified corpse of his Chimp's Sunday Sampler. Since then it's been a vanity project for the Bandar-Log: a chapbook in which a "friend" "publishes" their "poetry".
> >
> Like I said, Dunce; anyone who submits a poem, either here or on the FB page, gets "published" in the monthly online version. That's what a "sampler" is.
> > *(Yes, Michael Monkey will "publish" one poem per year from any non-Bandar-Log as well. He needs more "poets" in order to get his vanity publication listed on P&W.)
> I publish whichever poems I feel are good enough to be included, and limit the number "Bandar-Log" poems to approximately ten per "member." As the amount of contributions increase, I hope to cut the maximum per poet down to five.

> > > Only three individuals have ever been excluded from the "Sampler"/"AYoS":
> >
> > > 1) Will Donkey was excluded for continually picking fights in the "Sampler" threads, and effectively brought about the demise of that fine publication by driving its editor, Mr. Senetto, to shut it down.
> > > 2) George Sulzbach was excluded for spamming the thread with protests when Mr. Senetto "x"d his poem after it had been determined to be nothing more than a slight reworking of his "Dirty Mike"/"Loretta" poem (which had already been published in "The Sampler").
> > > 3) George "Baby Monkey" Dance was banned from "AYoS" for falsely accusing its editor/publisher of prejudicial practices in the selection of poems for the magazine (again, as you are well aware, (*all* of the submitted poems are *automatically* included in the monthly issue).

> > Leaving aside the truth of your above stories about Will and Zod (in my case, IIRC, you had a tantrum and "banned" me for calling your vanity project a vanity project), I'll note that none of those three were letting you use any of their poetry at the time you "banned" them. I've banned you and the Chimp from PPB, where I used to publish you, in the same way. Are you "butthurt" about that?
> > >
> More lies, Dunce. Sulzbach threw a tantrum when Jim cut his fifth reworking of the "Dirty Mike"/"Loretta" poem from "The Sampler" and it was his disruptive tantrum that got him banned. He remained banned from "AYoS" as well, because IMHO "AYoS" is a continuation of "The Sampler."

To some extent it was you taking your chimp's work and putting your own name on it. But we were talking about whom you "banned" from your "publication". Zod and Will were willing to give you and your Chimp a second chance with his second (or third) Sampler, but (as they both told you at the time) they were not going to give you another chance with AYoS. They were not letting you use any of their poetry at the time you "banned" them from AYoS. Neither was eye, when you "banned" me from AYoS. And you know that, Lying Michael.

> As for the Donkey, we have it straight from the jackass's mouth that he only stopped submitting poetry to "The Sampler" *after* he'd been banned: "(W)hen... I was banned... I decided that the time was definitely right to leave."
>
> And, as per you, you were not banned for calling "AYoS" a "vanity" (although, it fails to meed the criteria for such a designation)

It "meeds" yours, Lying Michael: 'Having your friend "publish" a print-on-demand chapbook of your poetry would be a prime an example [sic] of a vanity publication, Donkey.'
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/xltyiY3OUNc/m/dXgIZrd2AQAJ?hl=en

> but for falsely accusing me of editorial prejudice -- just as you're doing now. Some dunces never learn from their mistakes.

I've "accused" you of "publishing" your allies and excluding your enemies; which you don't believe, even though that is in fact what you've been doing.

> > > I understand that you suffer from terminal butthurt, but... get over it. You brought about your own exclusion with your false accusations. You have no one to blame but yourself.

> > If I'm 'butthurt' about anything regarding AYoS, it's for giving you a third chance and letting you use those poems I'd written for the Sampler, which I'm still trying to get out. But it's my own fault; I've always trusted other people, sometimes to excess.
> >
> Why you lying sack of shit!
>
> I pulled all copies of "AYoS" that contained any poetry by you out of circulation the day you demanded to have your poetry removed.

Lying, Michael, I asked you to remove my poetry last winter. You were still selling copies of your 2020 AYoS in June, and copies of your 2021 AYoS in August.

All you've done is revert those publications to draft. My poems are all still in your AYoS, you're still advertising them (and including my name in your ads) on Amazon, and you can resume printing them with one click any time you feel like it.

I want my poems and name out of your book, and so far you've given me nothing toward that.

> And, FYI, "AYoS" never published any poetry from "The Sampler." It only published poetry that had been submitted directly to it -- several years after "The Sampler" had been closed down.

No, Lying Michael. Your Chimp's third Sampler ran from early 2020 to the end of the year; at which point you decided to take the poems you wanted and call them AYoS instead. But of course you have no time sense, so you won't believe that. So let's quote what you wrote in the 2020 AYoS: "A Year of Sundays represents a cross-section of many of the finest poems that appeared in The Sunday Sampler over the past year."

I know you have a name to uphold, Lying Michael, but must you lie about everything?

[George Dance]

On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:10:54 AM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:08:12 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:17:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:18:40 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:26:57 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > <yawn> The Bandar-Log are clattering for my attention again.
> > > > > ## The duncery, he knows not his Kipling!
> > > > > "and should be their leader some day."
> > > > > "They [Bander-log] have no leader," said Bagheera. "They lie. They have always lied."
> > > > Obviously, since aapc's Bandar-Log do have a Monkey King, they have a different role model: not Kipling, but Disney.
> > > So much for Dunce's pretensions to literacy.

I never "pretended" the Bandar-Log had read Kipling's Jungle Book.

> > For the record, Michael Monkey's first AYoS anthology was the zombified corpse of his Chimp's Sunday Sampler. Since then it's been a vanity project for the Bandar-Log: a chapbook in which a "friend" "publishes" their "poetry".

> So you're saying that only you and your cash cow are the only poets here that can legitimately self publish?

No, Asstroll, and I'm pretty sure you know that. I have no problem with you having your Monkey King "publish" your "poetry". In fact I'll even suggest an idea to help you "publish" more of it. You wrote poetry for the "AAPC version" of AYoS in 2021; ask your King to take those three poems of mine out of the 2021 print anthology, and use three of yours instead. Win-win for the both of us.

> You know when you called a friend, Pendragon, publishing work for people a vanity printing, you also labelled you, a friend, publishing your friend's poetry a vanity printing also.

Actually, Asstroll, it was your "friend" Michael Monkey who labelled Will's book a vanity publication, and I just made the same argument to him: When he called Will's book a vanity publication, he was labelling AYoS one. For that argument, we were using his definition.

> But what else should we expect from you but petty hypocrisy

Don't be so dishonest, Asstroll (unless of course it's something you have to as part of earning your "publication"). You know my definition, since I've told you before: It's a vanity publication iff the poets have to pay for a copy of their own work. By that definition, Will's book is not a vanity publication, while AYoS is.
(I'm pretty sure you told me at the time that you were a vanity publisher. That's not your exact words, since I'm going by memory, but they should be enough to jog yours.)

[Ash Wurthing]

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:11:29 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:10:54 AM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:08:12 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:17:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:18:40 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:26:57 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > <yawn> The Bandar-Log are clattering for my attention again.
> > > > > > ## The duncery, he knows not his Kipling!
> > > > > > "and should be their leader some day."
> > > > > > "They [Bander-log] have no leader," said Bagheera. "They lie. They have always lied."
> > > > > Obviously, since aapc's Bandar-Log do have a Monkey King, they have a different role model: not Kipling, but Disney.
> > > > So much for Dunce's pretensions to literacy.
> I never "pretended" the Bandar-Log had read Kipling's Jungle Book.
> > > For the record, Michael Monkey's first AYoS anthology was the zombified corpse of his Chimp's Sunday Sampler. Since then it's been a vanity project for the Bandar-Log: a chapbook in which a "friend" "publishes" their "poetry".
>
> > So you're saying that only you and your cash cow are the only poets here that can legitimately self publish?
> No, Asstroll, and I'm pretty sure you know that. I have no problem with you having your Monkey King "publish" your "poetry". In fact I'll even suggest an idea to help you "publish" more of it. You wrote poetry for the "AAPC version" of AYoS in 2021; ask your King to take those three poems of mine out of the 2021 print anthology, and use three of yours instead. Win-win for the both of us.

Well, my people say that Pendragon choose wisely :P!!!

> > You know when you called a friend, Pendragon, publishing work for people a vanity printing, you also labelled you, a friend, publishing your friend's poetry a vanity printing also.
> Actually, Asstroll, it was your "friend" Michael Monkey who labelled Will's book a vanity publication, and I just made the same argument to him: When he called Will's book a vanity publication, he was labelling AYoS one. For that argument, we were using his definition.

I call Dockery's book a vanity publication, cause it was not published by an established publisher that risked their money, sees a profit to be made through buying a printing run, distributing it to be resold for him (you in this case). A friend doing it for him is the same as him doing it. Pendragon is not a "friend" like you are to Will. Pendragon probably wouldn't risk publishing my work solely, for me (and I wouldn't expect him to).

> > But what else should we expect from you but petty hypocrisy
> Don't be so dishonest, Asstroll (unless of course it's something you have to as part of earning your "publication"). You know my definition, since I've told you before: It's a vanity publication iff the poets have to pay for a copy of their own work. By that definition, Will's book is not a vanity publication, while AYoS is.
> (I'm pretty sure you told me at the time that you were a vanity publisher. That's not your exact words, since I'm going by memory, but they should be enough to jog yours.)

And I'm supposed to trust your definition when you claim that I celebrate the mass murder of school children when I was speaking out against transphobia? When you said I was slurring Roger Waters as anti-Semitic by merely saying he was being sloppy in his criticism of the State of Israel by putting the symbol of the Jewish people world wide on a pig (like the White supremacist do)? You came across like Marjorie Taylor Greene, Donald Trump Jr -- only incels and transphobs would have believed and approved of what you said.

Funny how you label me "dishonest" and turn around and be the dishonest one-- you made a false ASSertion again and came across as a liar and misrepresentor again--
You definitely made up your own definition of vanity printing/publishing which is as useless as your veracity.
None of the industry definitions I saw, say a single thing about the author getting a copy of their book-- it mentioned that the authors had to pay up front to be accepted and published when a traditional publisher accepts the author's work if they choose to devote their money to publish the book, the author doesn't have to pay anything because the publisher gets part of the sales.
No body had to pay anything to get their work accepted and published in AYoS.

[Ash Wurthing]

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:41:32 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:55:41 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:08:12 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:17:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:18:40 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:26:57 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > <yawn> The Bandar-Log are clattering for my attention again.
> > > > > > ## The duncery, he knows not his Kipling!
> > > > > > "and should be their leader some day."
> > > > > > "They [Bander-log] have no leader," said Bagheera. "They lie. They have always lied."
> > > > > Obviously, since aapc's Bandar-Log do have a Monkey King, they have a different role model: not Kipling, but Disney.
> > > > So much for Dunce's pretensions to literacy.
> > > > > "The Bandar-log, or Monkey People, are minor antagonists in Disney's The Jungle Book. They roam the ruins of an ancient city, and are ruled by King Louie." https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Bandar-log
> > > > > - just as our Bandar-Log are ruled by King Michael Monkey. But, since he and they do lie and say they don't have a leader, Bagheera's second and third sentence still apply. "They lie. They have always lied."
> > > > >
> > > > Since no such "Bandar-Log" exists (except in your paranoid delusions), one might make the same observation regarding yourself.
> As you should know by now, Michael, the "Bandar-Log refers to:
> The Monkey -- Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" et al
> The Chimp -- Chimp Obsesso aka "Edward Rochester Esq"
> and the Big Buffoon -- NastyGoon aka "NancyGene"
> and what's left of their flunkies: The Asstroll aka "Ash Wurthing" and the MEatpuppet aka "ME".

Then you won't mind me calling Dunce, the new Queen of Nasty-- I really love your true ugly face you're showing nowadays-- so much to comment on since you're crew's "real poetry" doesn't rate anything other than lip service nods and hellos!!

> Which of those five are you claiming doesn't exist? Do you think none of them exist?
> > > > > > ## Now since the only one claiming that there is a leader is Dance, he must be Bander-log liar!
> > > > > If you didn't serve your Monkey King, Astroll, he wouldn't "publish" you.
> > >
> > > > I published your poetry, Dunce.
>
> > > > Are you under the delusion that you were serving me at the time?
>
> > > I certainly was, Monkey. Not only was I leaving your "non-existent" Bandar-Log free to attack other aapc members with impunity, but I was giving your Chimp poetry for his Sampler, and even (as you note) letting you have your pick of it to launch

You mean like you lying that I said I had work "on display" in the LoC (when my actual words "deposited" was right there for you to see), that I celebrate the mass murder of school children because I'm against prejudice and persecution of trans people?

And I know Dance has a disgraceful name to uphold with libel-- I'm composing a post where Dunce's words echo Donald Trump, Jr and Marjorie Taylor Greene and other alt-righters so much that I think he lies about being a Libertarian!

[Michael Pendragon]

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:23:57 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> Since I originally posted this in a Bandar-Log thread, and there are some people here who don't read those, I thought I should put it on a new thread for them.
>

ROTFLMAO!

Who doesn't read them? The Donkey?

We both know that he reads *everything* that gets posted here.

> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:55:41 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:08:12 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:17:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:18:40 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:26:57 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > <yawn> The Bandar-Log are clattering for my attention again.
> > > > > > ## The duncery, he knows not his Kipling!
> > > > > > "and should be their leader some day."
> > > > > > "They [Bander-log] have no leader," said Bagheera. "They lie. They have always lied."
> > > > > Obviously, since aapc's Bandar-Log do have a Monkey King, they have a different role model: not Kipling, but Disney.
> > > > So much for Dunce's pretensions to literacy.
> > > > > "The Bandar-log, or Monkey People, are minor antagonists in Disney's The Jungle Book. They roam the ruins of an ancient city, and are ruled by King Louie." https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Bandar-log
> > > > > - just as our Bandar-Log are ruled by King Michael Monkey. But, since he and they do lie and say they don't have a leader, Bagheera's second and third sentence still apply. "They lie. They have always lied."
> > > > >
> > > > Since no such "Bandar-Log" exists (except in your paranoid delusions), one might make the same observation regarding yourself.
>
> As you should know by now, Michael, the "Bandar-Log refers to:
> The Monkey -- Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" et al
> The Chimp -- Chimp Obsesso aka "Edward Rochester Esq"
> and the Big Buffoon -- NastyGoon aka "NancyGene"
> and what's left of their flunkies: The Asstroll aka "Ash Wurthing" and the MEatpuppet aka "ME".
>
> Which of those five are you claiming doesn't exist? Do you think none of them exist?

LOL. You know, Dunce, I would love to be King Louie. Disney's "Jungle Book" was the first movie I saw in a theater (a drive-in), and remained my favorite film throughout my early childhood. Of course, Mowgli was my favorite, but I would pretend that I was King Louie as well. When I was four, my sister and I were going to play "Jungle Book," but we each wanted to be King Louie. I solved the problem by suggesting that we both could be King Louie. We immediately worked out a little ritual of sorts that we repeated many times over the course of the next year: I would say "I'm King Louie," which would cue my sister to say "I'm King Louie," which would be the cue for us both to say "We're both King Louie," in unison. For some reason, we found the little ritual hilarious and would always end by falling into a fit of mutual laughter.

And I'm also a big Louis Prima fan.

However, I'm not a monkey, nor a king, nor do I live amid some ancient ruins in an Indian jungle... and I haven't any Bandar-Log of followers.

I realize that you've put a great deal of time and creative effort into assigning monkey names to each of the AAPC regulars, and are no doubt proud of your achievement... however, it bears little resemblance to reality.

> > > > > > ## Now since the only one claiming that there is a leader is Dance, he must be Bander-log liar!
> > > > > If you didn't serve your Monkey King, Astroll, he wouldn't "publish" you.
> > >
> > > > I published your poetry, Dunce.
>
> > > > Are you under the delusion that you were serving me at the time?
>
> > > I certainly was, Monkey. Not only was I leaving your "non-existent" Bandar-Log free to attack other aapc members with impunity, but I was giving your Chimp poetry for his Sampler, and even (as you note) letting you have your pick of it to launch your anthology. I was also bringing in poets to this group, all of which you and your "non-existent" Bandar-Log drove away. In return, you stopped calling me plagiarist, pedophile, cunt, and all your other endearments -- until you felt like starting up again.
> > >
> > If you believe any of that, you're even more delusional than I thought.
>
> Oh, really? It's easy enough to check that. I believe I gave your Chimp poetry for his Sampler. You just claimed I'm "delusional" if I believe that. IOW, if you're being honest, you believe that I never gave your Chip poetry for his Sampler. But you also believe you "published" some of my poetry. Where do you think you got that poetry you "published"?
>

Are you playing the dunce again, Dunce? Or are you really as dense as you appear?

I'm saying you're delusional if you believe we had an unwritten treaty wherein I would stop calling you a plagiarist, pedophile, etc., if you left me free to attack other AAPC "members."

By "members," I'm assuming you mean the Donkey and his socks -- three trolls who flood the group with "hello" posts, mutual slurps, reposts of the same old tired exercises in unintelligible gibberish that the call "poems." But be that as it may.

I stopped calling you a plagiarist, pedophile, etc., for one reason: your statement that Frankie Laine played a seminal role in the development of 20th century music. I have always maintained that Mr. Laine's records of the late 1940s were direct forerunners of rock 'n' roll, and consider his 1951 recording of "Hey, Good Lookin''" a duet with Jo Stafford, to be the first rock 'n' roll record to make it to the pop charts.

Having met with a great deal of adversity regarding such views in the 1950s group, I appreciated your stance, and felt that those of us who can appreciate Mr. Laine's music should stick together. And I made every possible effort to overlook your efforts at enabling the Donkey and his socks to troll the group. I insisted on including your poetry in "AYoS," even though several of our contributors insisted that you be left out.

And I would still be supporting you today, had you not seen fit to attack my credibility as an editor.

In short, we had no unspoken treaty of any sort. I bent over backwards to include you in "AYoS" -- and even brokered several cease fires between you and the other members. And for what? More time to attack Will Donkey?

If that were the case, I would simply have skipped and ignored your posts.

If I were really the King of the Bandar-Log, do you think it strengthened my position as a ruler to insist on your inclusion in "AYoS"? Do you think my reprimand when they'd attack you were winning me any favor in their eyes?

I got *nothing* out of my so-called treaty with you... only an attack on my editorial integrity as at "thank you" for having fought to include your poetry in "AYoS."

> > > > For the record, "AYoS" is a successor to "The Sunday Sampler." As such, it is intended to provide a sample of the poetry of *each* of the AAPC poets.
> > > For the record, Michael Monkey's first AYoS anthology was the zombified corpse of his Chimp's Sunday Sampler. Since then it's been a vanity project for the Bandar-Log: a chapbook in which a "friend" "publishes" their "poetry".
> > >
> > Like I said, Dunce; anyone who submits a poem, either here or on the FB page, gets "published" in the monthly online version. That's what a "sampler" is.
> > > *(Yes, Michael Monkey will "publish" one poem per year from any non-Bandar-Log as well. He needs more "poets" in order to get his vanity publication listed on P&W.)
> > I publish whichever poems I feel are good enough to be included, and limit the number "Bandar-Log" poems to approximately ten per "member." As the amount of contributions increase, I hope to cut the maximum per poet down to five.
>
> > > > Only three individuals have ever been excluded from the "Sampler"/"AYoS":
> > >
> > > > 1) Will Donkey was excluded for continually picking fights in the "Sampler" threads, and effectively brought about the demise of that fine publication by driving its editor, Mr. Senetto, to shut it down.
> > > > 2) George Sulzbach was excluded for spamming the thread with protests when Mr. Senetto "x"d his poem after it had been determined to be nothing more than a slight reworking of his "Dirty Mike"/"Loretta" poem (which had already been published in "The Sampler").
> > > > 3) George "Baby Monkey" Dance was banned from "AYoS" for falsely accusing its editor/publisher of prejudicial practices in the selection of poems for the magazine (again, as you are well aware, (*all* of the submitted poems are *automatically* included in the monthly issue).
>
> > > Leaving aside the truth of your above stories about Will and Zod (in my case, IIRC, you had a tantrum and "banned" me for calling your vanity project a vanity project), I'll note that none of those three were letting you use any of their poetry at the time you "banned" them. I've banned you and the Chimp from PPB, where I used to publish you, in the same way. Are you "butthurt" about that?
> > > >
> > More lies, Dunce. Sulzbach threw a tantrum when Jim cut his fifth reworking of the "Dirty Mike"/"Loretta" poem from "The Sampler" and it was his disruptive tantrum that got him banned. He remained banned from "AYoS" as well, because IMHO "AYoS" is a continuation of "The Sampler."
>
> To some extent it was you taking your chimp's work and putting your own name on it.

You mean as you tried to do when you took over "The Sunday Sampler" after you and your Donkey had driven Jim out of the group? Got it.

I have always been forthcoming regarding my intention that "AYoS" be a continuation of "The Sunday Sampler." Jim felt that "The Sampler" had run its course, but had no problem with my starting a new publication with a similar intent (to showcase the AAPC poets). Hence the change of name to "A Year of Sundays" (itself an allusion to its predecessor). Jim also gave his permission that "AYoS" could *continue* where "The Sunday Sampler" left off; transferring the previously published content to us as well. And Jim is always credited as the "Founding Editor" of "AYoS," as a nod to the indebtedness of "AYoS" to "The Sampler," and to his role as the editor/publisher thereof.

> But we were talking about whom you "banned" from your "publication". Zod and Will were willing to give you and your Chimp a second chance with his second (or third) Sampler, but (as they both told you at the time) they were not going to give you another chance with AYoS. They were not letting you use any of their poetry at the time you "banned" them from AYoS.
>

As a continuation of "The Sunday Sampler," (in spirit, if not in name), it was only proper that those who had been banned from its predecessor should be banned from "AYoS" as well. The reasoning behind this decision was twofold: 1) had they not forced "The Sampler" to close up shop, and driven Jim out of the group, there would have been no need for me to create a reasonable facsimile of it; and 2) nearly all of the "AYoS" contributors voiced their opinion on the matter (to wit: if Will Donkey or Stinky George are going to have poetry in "AYoS," they will refuse to participate).

In short, by the time "AYoS" began publishing, it had already been determined that the Donkey and his Stink would have no place in it. Since some of the discussions regarding "AYoS" policy had been discussed in this forum, Will and George were well aware of the fact that their poetry would not be welcome *beforehand.*

It was basically a "We weren't going to let you have our poetry in your stinky old magazine anyway" type of thing.

> Neither was eye, when you "banned" me from AYoS. And you know that, Lying Michael.

Unless you'd stated it in one of the threads that I have blocked, you never made any such statement regarding "AYoS."

IIRC, when submitted poetry to "AYoS" for its first two years of publication. At some point during the third year, you said that you hadn't written any new poetry in a while. Was I supposed to "know" that you were withholding your poetry base on that?

You have always been a... cautious... writer, often complaining to Jim that composing a poem on a given topic every week was too much for you. When "AYoS" initially continued this practice, we opted to have 4 topics announced at the beginning of each month, specifically to accommodate slow writers like yourself. It seemed perfectly believable to me that you had not written any poems yet that year.

Of course one could argue that your false accusation regarding my editorial policy was a tacit statement to the effect that you no longer wished to participate in "AYoS," so we'll let it go at that. Either way, your statement is what directly brought about your current ban.

>
> > As for the Donkey, we have it straight from the jackass's mouth that he only stopped submitting poetry to "The Sampler" *after* he'd been banned: "(W)hen... I was banned... I decided that the time was definitely right to leave."
> >
> > And, as per you, you were not banned for calling "AYoS" a "vanity" (although, it fails to meed the criteria for such a designation)
>
> It "meeds" yours, Lying Michael: 'Having your friend "publish" a print-on-demand chapbook of your poetry would be a prime an example [sic] of a vanity publication, Donkey.'
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/xltyiY3OUNc/m/dXgIZrd2AQAJ?hl=en

I am not friends with all of the contributors to "AYoS," Dunce. Several of the poets who've submitted via the FB page, are people I've never heard of, much less communicated with, before.

*Any* poet from anywhere in the world can showcase their poetry in "AYoS." I realize that you think I'm a god (or, at least a King), but I don't know anywhere near 8 billion people.

> > but for falsely accusing me of editorial prejudice -- just as you're doing now. Some dunces never learn from their mistakes.
>
> I've "accused" you of "publishing" your allies and excluding your enemies; which you don't believe, even though that is in fact what you've been doing.
>

Again, "AYoS" (the monthly, online version) publishes *all* the poetry that is submitted to it. There have been at least a half dozen poets in it who do not post on AAPC, are not "allies," and are entirely unknown to me outside of their submission.

I have also included poetry by a member of "Team Donkey" (yourself), Karen (who you'd invited to the group, and who was friendly with Will and George), and many neutral members like Mabool, Dental Rivers, Hieronymous, & Richard Oakley.

Again, the only three people who are banned from "AYoS" are the Donkey, Stinky Zod, and yourself (and you had been a regular contributor for two of the magazine's three years of publication).

Unless you're making the ridiculous claim that anyone who is not on "Team Donkey" could be a *potential* ally (even if they've never posted at AAPC and probably never will), your statement is patently false. And, if you are making such a claim, it is not only ridiculous, but baseless, as it would mean that any editor or publisher who has ever existed has published only the work of *potential* allies.

> > > > I understand that you suffer from terminal butthurt, but... get over it. You brought about your own exclusion with your false accusations. You have no one to blame but yourself.
>
> > > If I'm 'butthurt' about anything regarding AYoS, it's for giving you a third chance and letting you use those poems I'd written for the Sampler, which I'm still trying to get out. But it's my own fault; I've always trusted other people, sometimes to excess.
> > >
> > Why you lying sack of shit!
> >
> > I pulled all copies of "AYoS" that contained any poetry by you out of circulation the day you demanded to have your poetry removed.
>
> Lying, Michael, I asked you to remove my poetry last winter. You were still selling copies of your 2020 AYoS in June, and copies of your 2021 AYoS in August.
>

That's not true, George. I pulled both issues, making them inactive, as soon as you'd made your request. If these back issues are still being sold, they are not being sold through my account.

It may surprise you to learn that people who own back issues of magazines often choose to sell them online.

Twenty-three years ago, I printed 225 copies of a multi-authored book titled "The Bible of Hell." Someone is currently selling a copy of one of these through Amazon. I am not the seller, don't know who the seller is, and have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the sale.

The 2020 and 2021 issues of "AYoS" went out of print last winter.

> All you've done is revert those publications to draft. My poems are all still in your AYoS, you're still advertising them (and including my name in your ads) on Amazon, and you can resume printing them with one click any time you feel like it.
>
> I want my poems and name out of your book, and so far you've given me nothing toward that.

Rather than making false accusations, why don't you do first conduct a little experiment: remove Will Donkey's book from publication.

You'll learn that Amazon still keeps the book listed on its site -- it just says that the book is no longer available.

I have no control over Amazon's policies.

And, yes, I could theoretically resume printing the old issues at any time. However, I can't imagine any reason why I would want to do so. I don't make any money from the sales (they are sold at cost). Apart from watching you throw a hissyfit, what would it profit me to reissue a three-year old poetry journal?

And, it also goes against the official policy at "AYoS": we only keep the publications in print for one year. I had left the first two issues in print in response to requests from several of the contributors -- making it clear at the time that they would be taken out of print the moment any one of the contributors requested it.

You made such a request and the issues were immediately taken out of print.

> > And, FYI, "AYoS" never published any poetry from "The Sampler." It only published poetry that had been submitted directly to it -- several years after "The Sampler" had been closed down.
>
> No, Lying Michael. Your Chimp's third Sampler ran from early 2020 to the end of the year; at which point you decided to take the poems you wanted and call them AYoS instead.
>

Again, lying Dunce, this was done with Jim's permission; and the name change was due to his insistence on closing "The Sunday Sampler" for good.

And, you will recall that when the 2020 year end issue was published, *all* of the contributors whose work had been selected for inclusion received page proofs, permissions requests, and were given the option of having their poetry removed. Two of the contributors (your friends, I believe) insisted that all of their poetry be removed (it was). Several others pulled one or two of their poems (for various reasons), but allowed us to use others (I believe that you may have been one of them).

> But of course you have no time sense, so you won't believe that. So let's quote what you wrote in the 2020 AYoS: "A Year of Sundays represents a cross-section of many of the finest poems that appeared in The Sunday Sampler over the past year."
>
> I know you have a name to uphold, Lying Michael, but must you lie about everything?

Again, the magazine's title "A Year of Sundays" makes it clear that it was showcasing the poetry from "The Sunday Sampler." IOW, it is "A Year of Sunday Samplers."

[Michael Pendragon]

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:11:29 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:10:54 AM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:08:12 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:17:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:18:40 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:26:57 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > <yawn> The Bandar-Log are clattering for my attention again.
> > > > > > ## The duncery, he knows not his Kipling!
> > > > > > "and should be their leader some day."
> > > > > > "They [Bander-log] have no leader," said Bagheera. "They lie. They have always lied."
> > > > > Obviously, since aapc's Bandar-Log do have a Monkey King, they have a different role model: not Kipling, but Disney.
> > > > So much for Dunce's pretensions to literacy.
> I never "pretended" the Bandar-Log had read Kipling's Jungle Book.

The Monkey King can assure you that he has.

> > > For the record, Michael Monkey's first AYoS anthology was the zombified corpse of his Chimp's Sunday Sampler. Since then it's been a vanity project for the Bandar-Log: a chapbook in which a "friend" "publishes" their "poetry".
>
> > So you're saying that only you and your cash cow are the only poets here that can legitimately self publish?
> No, Asstroll, and I'm pretty sure you know that. I have no problem with you having your Monkey King "publish" your "poetry". In fact I'll even suggest an idea to help you "publish" more of it. You wrote poetry for the "AAPC version" of AYoS in 2021; ask your King to take those three poems of mine out of the 2021 print anthology, and use three of yours instead. Win-win for the both of us.
>

"AYoS" isn't a blog, Dunce. It's a literary journal.

One does not change the content of past issues in a journal.

> > You know when you called a friend, Pendragon, publishing work for people a vanity printing, you also labelled you, a friend, publishing your friend's poetry a vanity printing also.
> Actually, Asstroll, it was your "friend" Michael Monkey who labelled Will's book a vanity publication, and I just made the same argument to him: When he called Will's book a vanity publication, he was labelling AYoS one. For that argument, we were using his definition.
>

Will's book was published by Will's friend.

Will's publisher has never published anything other than his own chapbooks (more vanities).

Will's book attempts to make money for its publisher through sales.

It is the definition of a "Vanity Book."

***
"AYoS," otoh, is a poetry journal that features the work of numerous poets -- some of whom its publisher has become friends with, some of whom he has not.

The publisher of "AYoS" has published three multi-author, literary magazines in the past, and a pair of multi-author books. His latter two journals, and both of these books, were recognized in "The Year's Best Fantasy and Horror," Tor Press, where several of the poems and short stories published in them received honorable mentions, and two of the poems published were reprinted in it. They were also recognized by Poets&Writers as legitimate sources of publication.

"AYoS" is sold at cost and generates no income for its publisher. A "Vanity Press" is a press that will publish any work *for money.* Since "AYoS" does not seek to generate any money for its publisher, it does not meet the definition of a "Vanity."

> > But what else should we expect from you but petty hypocrisy
> Don't be so dishonest, Asstroll (unless of course it's something you have to as part of earning your "publication").

Why must you lies so much, George?

You are well aware that "AYoS" publishes *every* poem submitted to it in its monthly, online version. No one has to do anything to "earn" publication in it.

> You know my definition, since I've told you before: It's a vanity publication iff the poets have to pay for a copy of their own work.
>

Your definition is as false a you are, Dunce.

Let's look up the real definition online:

"A vanity press, also referred to as a vanity publisher or subsidy publisher is a company that will publish anything for anyone who pays them. There are no editorial or creative standards. It's simply a company that prints books for people."

As you can see, the definition doesn't hinge on the authors paying money, but on the publisher's being paid money.

The monthly, online version of "AYoS" is free.

The yearly, perfectbound version is sold at cost.

There is no cost to the author for having their work appear in it.

If they desire a copy, they can purchase it from the printer: an independent contractor. The publisher has to purchase his own copies from this third party printer as well.

>
By that definition, Will's book is not a vanity publication, while AYoS is.
> (I'm pretty sure you told me at the time that you were a vanity publisher. That's not your exact words, since I'm going by memory, but they should be enough to jog yours.)
>

I'm unaware of any poetry journal published by Ash, and suspect that you're becoming confused again.

As to "AYoS," it is not considered a "vanity," per se, but in order for it to be recognized by Poets&Writers, it needs to publish a much larger ratio of poetry from non-staff members (NancyGene, Jim, and myself) before it can meet their criteria. That should naturally come about as a direct result of our journal's success. Increased readership would lead to an increase in submissions, which would in turn lead to a higher portion of contributor poetry in the issues.

[Ash Wurthing]

"Come and see the chaos
Come and see the mess
I can promise you nothing
Nothing good will it be"
"Ties of Blood" ~~Sarke
https://sarkeband.bandcamp.com/track/ties-of-blood

[NancyGene]

"Balance and control. Without them, chaos will kill you." - "The Witcher"

[Ash Wurthing]

Yep and those I oppose don't know balance and control from their pie hole...

Hell, have a heart, it's obvious that that's all they have going for them-- trying to prove to 6 people that they're SOMETHING and after 4 years this what they have achieved.

Just shallow minds lost in empty shells with not a thing redeeming that they can find while they wallow in their own Hells They cannot rise above ego's satisfied mediocrity. The poor fools, they compose works of words for their petty egos, which it proclaims is good, and they rejoice in its blind appeasement.

Usenet whippin' fools have but one desire, to post ceaselessly in endless hope TO BE NOTICED. They have no remembrance, hence they must post "lest we forget" incessantly. They boast and chatter and pretend that they are a great creators about to do great affairs on the Usenet, but the falling of a typo or a hello, turns their minds to obsession and all dignity is forgotten.
* sorry, but not terribly Rudyard Kipling (The Jungle Book)

[Ash Wurthing]

"We are shattered mirrors
Fragments of the truth
Bitter bits of broken glass
Begging for some proof
And in this fun house all the mirrors crash into the floor
We don't want to catch the light of liars anymore"
--'Mirror, Mirror' (from the album 'Of Patriots and Tyrants')
~~Cassandra Syndrome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwMvZgeoBos

[Ash Wurthing]

"You've come to see the healer, so don't you be afraid
They call me tranquilizer, I'm here to isolate
We paint in black and white and you're the dirty in between
Monstrosity of nature, a virulent disease
From the cradle to the madhouse, a twisted mind
There's no way out of this hell for a twisted mind"
--"Twisted Mind" ~~Avantasia with Roy Khan of Kamelot
(Khan has a clean epic voice, give it a listen)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFFeHwErOpg
https://genius.com/Avantasia-twisted-mind-lyrics

[Ash Wurthing]

Karen once wondered what I was digging for in the midden here-- she obviously was not thinking outside of the box...

Pink Floyd had a song about Mother
and Morrison had one about Horse Eyes
Each and together sparked intrigue
spawned a sought after mystique

"Kings of this carousel, disfigured upon white horses
With Goya's claws and Dore's wings
Down golden locks to red crosses
Crowned children screaming from funeral shrouds
To rapid eye movement, heart-strings undone
Our beautiful filth dances
And plague flowers

Why our wall to reason falls is only human"
-'And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope' ~~Ne Obliviscaris

My foes may say that I've lost to their intellect's supposed might,
but have I lost to someone who dares not to even be right?

"You better believe that there is thunder
Thunder in our hearts
But too much hate for the ones we love
No ocean to vast, no conquest too small for me
I stand against all and wet my blade in tyranny"
--'Upon Our Spiritual Deathbed' ~~Primordial

Poor whippin' fools, thinking they're one eyed Kings to this blind person...
This blind man sees that the whippin' fools have set up a vicious cycle with others here, that they don't desire or now could ever end, with such troll asshattery such as these:
"The Ashtroll's stupid Shakespeare quote" by George Dance
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/cQx-pzvZMR8/m/VK_xCtW8AwAJ
## with 282 posts-- how many are Will's just bumping it to be spiteful to me, trying to lame 'n shame me?
He did get caught "putting words in my mouth" (as he always accuses me of) and denies doing wrong (see below)
"Nancy Gene stupid quote of the day" Zod
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WpnevBLKz04/m/920adOtGAQAJ
the topic was supposed to be about a quote, but it was just you laming fools obsessing over a typo of a poet's name made, what a year ago?
You claim to be guiltless, but you're blinder than I am-- what's your excuse. No need to tell me, it's obvious to everybody-- it's your ego! This obviously just another tat in this endless tit tat vicious cycle.

About egos:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/oC9y6haxMQM/m/L25h6RJxAQAJ
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ

Shallow minds lost in empty shells with noting redeeming can they find while trapped in their own Hells...
Idiot fools blindly guided by their dim witted absolutes of their skewed truths.


** Will "putting words in people's mouths"
Ash Wurthing
Aug 14, 2023, 2:49:30 AM
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/cQx-pzvZMR8/m/B_2qGSkuAAAJ
Ash Wurthing
Jul 9, 2023, 10:00:35 PM
Hello sWilly, you're slacking in your attempted laming and shaming-- we need this up top for everyone to see Dance's and your true faces...
I didn't say "All the World's a stage." The Bard doesn't own the concept that the World being Life's stage, it's a common concept and saying now, and he's not the only one among billions and centuries that could come up with that concept-- anyone not even knowing what he wrote could come up with that.
For those that think everything is a direct Shakespeare reference, there's more things in the World, armchairist, than you know in that narrow minded, self absorbed world view of yours.

"They do say that the World is a stage and so would be the venues of the Digital Age."

Will Dockery
Jul 10, 2023, 12:36:49 AM
On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 10:00:35 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 7:33:30 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 10:30:23 AM UTC-5, George Dance wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 9:22:14 AM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing decided to prove he did, too, know something about English poetry by namedropping William Shakespeare (with hilarious results):
> > >
> > > > Now where was I?
> > > > Is that the smell of burnt threads in the morning? Incinerated intentions and dreams scorched? How pleasing, it inspires me to recite some verses!
> > > >
> > > > They do say that the World is a stage
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Here

< I didn't say "All the World's a stage."

See above, apparently you did. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ash Wurthing
Jul 10, 2023, 6:44:46 AM
Actually copy and paste the sentence from my words that says "All the World's a stage," if that is so... I bet you can't...

W.Dockery
Jul 10, 2023, 7:25:10 AM
Okay, you wrote "the World is a stage."

Ash Wurthing
Jul 10, 2023, 8:43:29 PM
Nonapology noted...
and since that's all you give for me to comment on, then I shall comment on it's cowardliness.

W.Dockery
Jul 10, 2023, 9:10:12 PM
Ash Wurthing wrote:
< Nonapology noted

That's right, no apology.

[Ash Wurthing]

Oh Boy! It's Ashes Greatest Poetry Fits, Vol i, Disc A, Side: The Wrong Side @@!

ASH'S GREATEST POETRY FITS

BY POPULAR DEMAND!1! /KK- not really but I can pretend for

this the Usenet- a fool's safe zone!/
For only five minutes, yes for the low, low price of five

minutes of your time these wonderous fits can be yours to

read!
-------
ASH'S GREATEST POETRY FITS
by Ash of Wurthing, purvey'r of cunning rampallian commentary,

son of a cunning rampallian, that gent, son of a caliver

// rearrange, general aapc fight, then pcs about fools, then

Ash //

1.
THE AAPC SHOW

Don your visages, grab your daggers,
the curtain is about to be drawn...

Ladies and Gents, welcome to the show!
We promise amazement to behold--
Or so that's what I've been told.
Honestly, I just don't know
exactly what is this farrago?

****
2.
FIGHT CLUB PARTY TIME AT AAPC

Despite those "real" poets that tout
forced spam feeding to the devout
the actual poets let out an angry shout
"Who let the louts out?!"
"Who let the Sod out?"
"Who let the Dunce out?"

****
3.
LOT LIZARD LOVERS HATERS BLUES

Of those who are so cavalier about pudendum
shall we rhyme the ways that we're fed up
with scum bums, dumb crumbs and their venom
watching them with their heads up their rectums
while they essay, truth spin and troll bedlam
about "poetry" and "commentary" they misled us
the captive audience buried in their jetsam

****
4.
LIKE A TROLLING SPAM

Is it any good? Who cares, it's words, we can spam it!
Is there anyone to read it? Who knows! It's a place to spam it!
Won't it annoy like commercials do? Well, commercials do it, so lets spam it!
Won't people just start to ignore it? Not when we can troll them with spamming it!
Won't it just get us hatred? They just haven't been convinced yet-- this calls for more spamming it!

****
5.
HEY MR WHO'S WHO MAN

Hey Mr. Who's Not Who, why all this ado about you?
If you were a Who's Who, don't you think we would know you?
But alas, we're scratching our heads wondering who is that FOOL!

****
6.
DEAD THREADS OF NECROPOST LOVE

Another gone poem...
but do not mourn, you so dumb
for the Usenet makes me a Gawd!
So I can prop that corpse up
and say "Look at what I spawned!
Now worship my Creation necrobumped!"

****
7.
THE SPAM STREAK

Yes sir, I can affirm-- I saw it!
I was minding my own business
at the Dewey Decimal card catalog,
thumbing thru those confounding numbers,
when I heard it.
Inane muttering and excited bumping.
'N over at the computers, I saw him-- thread humping!
The only thing I could think to do was to yell
to where the periodicals were, "Don't look Ethel!"

****
8.
THE ESSAY-ASS

To be or not to be viable
let me research this in the library!
Where I obsess to be essayist to the excitable
To express the protests of the contrary
And I must confess, it's such a mess being undesirable
So I will digress to essay on this quandary.

****
9.
UNDER THE BUS BLUES

Well now, under the bus with she, The Uncool
Aw Hell! Someone made K look the fool!
Well, that's gratitude from a tool!
And this ingrate deemed a fool
cannot understand why he's called a tool-
everyone's just confused, for he's so cool;
and so, will do as he pleases, like a mule-
doing what makes him such a tool.

****
10.
IN SPITE OF SPITE
/a dedication to Mr. Mensa Superiority/

A mighty Man is merely a Mite
while grappling with what is Right
Yoked by Brilliance clouding his Sight
casting him in such unflattering Light
In Ridicule he basks in reviled Delight
Despite Brilliance he demeans it with Spite

******
11.
TO DOGGEREL

"Poetry" the poet reads
his drollery so unreal
a book of doggerel supposedly
bandied here as "real poetry"
All the poets agree
that it's so funny
that it makes no money
So to the trash pile with the "poetry"
and also the self acclaimed votary
who edited the unspeakable poesy
of he whose ego stinks of bigotry
the posey proclaiming "real poetry".


*****
12.
LIMERICK SHIT SUPREMACIST

A limerick supremacist I see,
Your poesy magic has no power over me!
Your poetry "supremacy" only holds sway
In imagined victories as you always say-
This heathen decreed "unlettered" by thee
Remains unbowed, unfettered unlike thee
By measured tats as you always say
By your jism infamy and fakism sway
Your supposed superiority over me
Is self imagined as we all see!

Limericks are annoying as fuck
I'm trying to write this so it doesn't suck
You all sound pretentious
I'm not being contentious
That's all, so go suck a duck

*****
13. BONUS TRACK!!!
DOGGEREL OF THE ASS DANCE
/('Ballad' of the Usenet's Greatest Poetry Wikier)/

I wiki the poetry like a smutty stud notary!
And proudly count the masses
coming to read others' poetry
While I call mine doggerel--
which is just irregular poesy
altho the uninitiated call it mongrel--
may I say that's merely done anecdotally--
because what do they know, those trolls!
I blog about "democracy" with such viral potency!
Pawning cogency for darkest conspiracy
for the reality seemingly fit
for what I deem worthy to print--
What does the news know? They're fakers!
Pawns! Media control purveyors!
And I will nastily tat every tit
of those low class raters I snipped,
all those jealous haters I list--
yes, I also maintain a list of dissed--
always checking it once, checking it twice
for those that I judge naughty or those I deem nice

[NancyGene]

On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:51:53 AM UTC-10, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> Oh Boy! It's Ashes Greatest Poetry Fits, Vol i, Disc A, Side: The Wrong Side @@!
>
> ASH'S GREATEST POETRY FITS
>
> BY POPULAR DEMAND!1! /KK- not really but I can pretend for

Of course your work is in demand!

>
> this the Usenet- a fool's safe zone!/
> For only five minutes, yes for the low, low price of five
>
> minutes of your time these wonderous fits can be yours to
>
> read!

How many times will George Sulzbach read it? Many, man, many, ha ha ha.

> -------
> ASH'S GREATEST POETRY FITS
> by Ash of Wurthing, purvey'r of cunning rampallian commentary,
>
> son of a cunning rampallian, that gent, son of a caliver
>
> // rearrange, general aapc fight, then pcs about fools, then
>
> Ash //
>
> 1.
> THE AAPC SHOW
>
> Don your visages, grab your daggers,
> the curtain is about to be drawn...
>
> Ladies and Gents, welcome to the show!
> We promise amazement to behold--
> Or so that's what I've been told.
> Honestly, I just don't know
> exactly what is this farrago?

It is a fight for poetry and discussion, not for hellos.

>
> ****
> 2.
> FIGHT CLUB PARTY TIME AT AAPC
>
> Despite those "real" poets that tout
> forced spam feeding to the devout
> the actual poets let out an angry shout
> "Who let the louts out?!"
> "Who let the Sod out?"
> "Who let the Dunce out?"

And George Sulzbach and Dirty Mike are "out." Such a filthy couple.

>
> ****
> 3.
> LOT LIZARD LOVERS HATERS BLUES
>
> Of those who are so cavalier about pudendum
> shall we rhyme the ways that we're fed up
> with scum bums, dumb crumbs and their venom
> watching them with their heads up their rectums
> while they essay, truth spin and troll bedlam
> about "poetry" and "commentary" they misled us
> the captive audience buried in their jetsam

We like "dumb crumbs!"

>
> ****
> 4.
> LIKE A TROLLING SPAM

Bob Dylan is jealous!

>
> Is it any good? Who cares, it's words, we can spam it!
> Is there anyone to read it? Who knows! It's a place to spam it!

No one reads their stuff. "No reads."

> Won't it annoy like commercials do? Well, commercials do it, so lets spam it!
> Won't people just start to ignore it? Not when we can troll them with spamming it!
> Won't it just get us hatred? They just haven't been convinced yet-- this calls for more spamming it!

99 Ways to Spam AAPC.

>
> ****
> 5.
> HEY MR WHO'S WHO MAN
>
> Hey Mr. Who's Not Who, why all this ado about you?
> If you were a Who's Who, don't you think we would know you?
> But alas, we're scratching our heads wondering who is that FOOL!

He's been a fool since 1958. His mother and father and brother told him so every day.

>
> ****
> 6.
> DEAD THREADS OF NECROPOST LOVE
>
> Another gone poem...
> but do not mourn, you so dumb
> for the Usenet makes me a Gawd!
> So I can prop that corpse up
> and say "Look at what I spawned!
> Now worship my Creation necrobumped!"

Dirtnap Dave lives! Lady K lives, though with significant drag marks.

>
> ****
> 7.
> THE SPAM STREAK
>
> Yes sir, I can affirm-- I saw it!
> I was minding my own business
> at the Dewey Decimal card catalog,
> thumbing thru those confounding numbers,
> when I heard it.
> Inane muttering and excited bumping.
> 'N over at the computers, I saw him-- thread humping!
> The only thing I could think to do was to yell
> to where the periodicals were, "Don't look Ethel!"

Ha, ha with the Ethel! Did you also see Ilya Shambat doing his "thing" at the library?

>
> ****
> 8.
> THE ESSAY-ASS
>
> To be or not to be viable
> let me research this in the library!
> Where I obsess to be essayist to the excitable
> To express the protests of the contrary
> And I must confess, it's such a mess being undesirable
> So I will digress to essay on this quandary.

No one reads Ilya Shambat's essays.

>
> ****
> 9.
> UNDER THE BUS BLUES
>
> Well now, under the bus with she, The Uncool
> Aw Hell! Someone made K look the fool!
> Well, that's gratitude from a tool!
> And this ingrate deemed a fool
> cannot understand why he's called a tool-
> everyone's just confused, for he's so cool;
> and so, will do as he pleases, like a mule-
> doing what makes him such a tool.

Poor, wise ktell.

>
> ****
> 10.
> IN SPITE OF SPITE
> /a dedication to Mr. Mensa Superiority/
>
> A mighty Man is merely a Mite
> while grappling with what is Right
> Yoked by Brilliance clouding his Sight
> casting him in such unflattering Light
> In Ridicule he basks in reviled Delight
> Despite Brilliance he demeans it with Spite

Mr. Mensa Man has so many nail marks on his body that he has stigmata.

>
> ******
> 11.
> TO DOGGEREL
>
> "Poetry" the poet reads
> his drollery so unreal
> a book of doggerel supposedly
> bandied here as "real poetry"
> All the poets agree
> that it's so funny
> that it makes no money
> So to the trash pile with the "poetry"
> and also the self acclaimed votary
> who edited the unspeakable poesy
> of he whose ego stinks of bigotry
> the posey proclaiming "real poetry".

He is buying his own book, since it is no longer sold at the bait shop.

>
>
> *****
> 12.
> LIMERICK SHIT SUPREMACIST
>
> A limerick supremacist I see,
> Your poesy magic has no power over me!
> Your poetry "supremacy" only holds sway
> In imagined victories as you always say-
> This heathen decreed "unlettered" by thee
> Remains unbowed, unfettered unlike thee
> By measured tats as you always say
> By your jism infamy and fakism sway
> Your supposed superiority over me
> Is self imagined as we all see!
>
> Limericks are annoying as fuck
> I'm trying to write this so it doesn't suck
> You all sound pretentious
> I'm not being contentious
> That's all, so go suck a duck

Brian Mallard and the Ducky family? They will sell you a picture of Will and his dead relatives.

>
> *****
> 13. BONUS TRACK!!!
> DOGGEREL OF THE ASS DANCE
> /('Ballad' of the Usenet's Greatest Poetry Wikier)/
>
> I wiki the poetry like a smutty stud notary!
> And proudly count the masses
> coming to read others' poetry
> While I call mine doggerel--
> which is just irregular poesy
> altho the uninitiated call it mongrel--
> may I say that's merely done anecdotally--
> because what do they know, those trolls!
> I blog about "democracy" with such viral potency!
> Pawning cogency for darkest conspiracy
> for the reality seemingly fit
> for what I deem worthy to print--
> What does the news know? They're fakers!
> Pawns! Media control purveyors!
> And I will nastily tat every tit
> of those low class raters I snipped,
> all those jealous haters I list--
> yes, I also maintain a list of dissed--
> always checking it once, checking it twice
> for those that I judge naughty or those I deem nice

We are both naughty and nice, depending on our Muse.

[Ash Wurthing]

It is a momentous holiday, so let us not insult but exult!
Oh, please forgive me for I forgot- it's not yours, not

theirs, but mine- a celebration of my own fated design
So while you while away here and continue to whine;
with well wishes heaped upon me, I will wine and dine

"Soon I shall die, and what I now feel be no longer felt. Soon

these burning miseries will be extinct. I shall ascend my

funeral pile triumphantly and exult in the agony of the

torturing flames. The light of that conflagration will fade

away; my ashes will be swept into the sea by the winds. My

spirit will sleep in peace, or if it thinks, it will not

surely think thus."
– Mary Shelley, Frankenstein, Chapter 24

"Tell me, dear master, wherefore now thou comest?
I thought thy solemn songs would have their meed
In after-time; that I should hear the earth
Exult in thee and echo with thy praise,
While I was laid forgotten in my grave."
~Robert Browning

O life with the sad seared face,
I weary of seeing thee,
And thy draggled cloak, and thy hobbling pace,
And thy too-forced pleasantry!

I know what thou would'st tell
Of Death, Time, Destiny -
I have known it long, and know, too, well
What it all means for me.

But canst thou not array
Thyself in rare disguise,
And feign like truth, for one mad day,
That Earth is Paradise?

I'll tune me to the mood,
And mumm with thee till eve;
And maybe what as interlude
I feign, I shall believe!
--"To Life" ~~Thomas Hardy

So yes, every day can be a holiday-- in Hell. Where else can we insult the beauty of dignity so as to inflict upon others new variations of suffering with each miserable day? It seems to me, that in practice, this great miracle that has placed us here simply to assist each other in mutual suffering. So yes, each and every day we can make a new holiday out of our suffering.
--'Dies Ater' (v3) ~~AshWurting
** (written while having a dramatic reading of "A Season in Hell" by Rimbaud by a theatre student with a major in Sociology)