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I for one would completely remove the FORM code - it's nice and easy to get something up and running but difficult to style (no clear separation of backend/frontend) and extend.
Hi...I m total beginner in python with elastic search also Unicode ... I am looking for a wonderful framework & was keen on web2py..but just happened to read that its not compatible with python 3..
Pl guide me abt this issue & in selecting framework
With regards to all,
Many schools already teach things from a hundred years ago, let's not do that in IT as well.
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I wanted to add to this discussion as well. I think that developing with python 2.7 and web2py has been fine, however I have been really concerned as my application gets bigger that we are going to have to migrate to a .net or java based solution in the future. The more I develop, the more I worry about the amount of re-work I am creating for myself in the future. I would feel better about my decision to choose web2py if this supported the current version of the product.I am not sure my Python abilities are good enough yet to be heavily involved in a conversion from 2.7 - 3.5, but I would be happy to help where I can once my current project is implemented.
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I like the idea of a new framework, using python 3 but that's not the most important. These days if we want to attract developers to our projects we also need to have an API, and separated front end and back end. web2py is great for the backend. The DAL is fantastic, and every time I get close to an ORM I appreciate it even more. After trying out ractive for myself, I really like Massimo's idea of integrating web2py and ractive.
So I would love to see a new framework, if we can work on a clear upgrade path that would take existing web2py apps to the new framework. It's much easier to port a web app than a framework, on which many web apps rely. I think we should release the web2py dev team from the chains of backwards compatibility once every few years. If there is a new framework based on the DAL and the other good stuff from web2py, but also using ractive and other technologies and good ideas suggested on this list, then porting our web apps would take a reasonable effort, and it would be well worth it.
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I think that for the programmer is not so important the version..always if the last is not too old..Python 2.7 is not too old but the problem that i see is that there is a good guide and good forum..web2py have many good features, but the real problem that I find( I am a web2py developer from 5 months) is that there are low plugins and the low plugins have a bad documentation and low specific web2py library. For example php is old but there are many and many documentation, many library, many plugins and so many people but also many company use this language..Php is old but if you use this language you can find on google in 5minutes any information, you can create page in few time, many functionality in few time..So maybe is coul use the last version or the last framework example Play Java or another Python Framework or web3py but if you have a problem and there is any resources online and for one reserach and little problem spend hours is not the right way
Of course though as Massimo cited all education institutions are teaching Python 3 and have for a time meaning all the new developers are starting there. If they write new code bases it will be 3, every dev deals with legacy code but is that really the strongest position to take?
Alex pretty much the only thing missing for py3 support is for m2crypto which web2py depends on for X509 stuff to support python 3, according to their repository they're really close to finishing py3 support. So I would say we're almost there.
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If what prevents the release of web2py python 3 ready are small details , why not release 2 versions, one for python 3, and the other one for python 3.
Eventually, all the libraries will be ported to Py 3, or will be ways to sort that out.just saying
$ python3 web2py.py
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I am working on web3py which is not to be confused with web2py for python 3. For this reason it will have another name. It will not be compatible with web2py (python 2 or python 3) but it will have a lot of the features that you like and more and be 10x faster.
Awesome!! Which features massimo? :D
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Great one Alex.
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Did some quick tests with python 3.5.2 and it seems now web2py master branch is python3 compatible.
Is there anything , I should worry before switching it to a production modus.
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File "C:\Users\assus\Desktop\Flash\python3\web2py_2_17_2_src\web2py\gluon\packages\dal\pydal\objects.py", line 2619, in export_to_csv_file
writer.writerow(unquote_colnames(colnames))
TypeError: a bytes-like object is required, not 'str'