Im back, problem finally solved

[Gunner Asch]

As you all probably know, Ive been dealing with buffoons making fun of
me for years. <shrug> I finally put a stop... full stop to it. I
apologize to the group for letting it go on so long but after today
you wont see any more garbage posts in my name or any others. It was a
bit of work but well worth the trouble and the huge phone bill that
will be coming. <shrug>

First I had to roll over to Usenet Head Office. It was 700 miles one
way but thats well below my average so it was an easy days ride on my
Super Meteor scooter. Of course I brought along my trusty nym
registration in case any questions were asked. The chick at the
counter was a real babe, Ill call her Foxy from now on. <grin> Shes
probably in her 30s but could pass for 25... easy... very easy. She
listened to my story and then she went off into the bowels of the
office which reminded me of the final scene in Raiders of the Lost
Ark. She came back about 15 minutes later carrying a piece of paper
and smiling. She said there was nothing she could do but she kept
glancing at my crotch and then back to the piece of paper. I was
still wearing my full leathers so it was no surprise when she gave me
her digits. <shrug> Then she walked away leaving the paper on the
counter. I noticed she made a point of bending over at a file cabinet
so I could get a glimpse of her thong under the leopard print mini
skirt. Theres nothing like a fine ass in fish nets and high heels I
always say. <grin> I snatched the paper and Crom what do you know,
it had all the perps info and even the phone number of all their
providers, oh yes!

I rode over to the nearest Mickey Ds and phoned all the providers.
Seventy six (76) accounts cancelled just like that. Seems a nym
registration carries some weight in those parts! <VBG> I also phoned
in the info to some friends of mine. I had to call in some favors but
thats what friends are for. <shrug> Needless to say all the perps
have been handled and I hope to have the videos soon.

Now... I will have... have to make a return trip to visit Foxy and
bang her for a few hours as a reward for "not" helping me. <grin> Its
a tough life but somebody has to live it. <VBG>

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On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 12:24:06 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:

I looked at the header and the sender is " guM . Not guN. Se it is a troll. I did not bother to read it.

Dan

[Gunner Asch]

Here is one of his headers. You will note some issues..making it far
far different than mine:


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I NEVER use eternal-september.org
Note that its laid out twice? Once in the origin and once in the
complaints to line

And I use Forte Agent 8.0, (fully paid for btw)

One of these days Ill simply do a search on who uses Forte Agent
6.00/32.1186...and compare the two for (2) other data bits that will
ID both the machine it comes from and other data.

But it takes about 15-30 minutes to do and so far..Ive not bothered.
He is a fun playtoy to pull the wings off of, now and then, but he is
nothing more.

Once a week I send a batch of emails attached to a complaint to the
above complaint link. But as we all know...Eternal September is an
outlaws free host. When he ultimately gets blown off ..as he has on
two other paid cites..there are several others he can get free access
to. So either he goes away on his own, or is killed, Im stuck with
having my very own stalker. Of course I simply deal with it. Now the
moment his ID is discovered...all bets are off. Ive got lots of
friends across the US, and we owe each other favors......shrug.

The fingers between a steel pipe and a 16 oz ball pien would simpy be
an early appatizer, with many hours to go. Id go get a burger
afterwards. Shrug. Only issue I can think of...curley fries or
crisscut fries.




Shrug

Gunner

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 09:24:03 -0700, Gunner Asch <Gumne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Path: not-for-mail
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>Subject: Im back, problem finally solved
>Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 09:24:03 -0700

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>As you all probably know, Ive been dealing with buffoons making fun of
>me for years.

[Sprawl ll]

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 12:43:55 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>>One of these days Ill simply do a search on who uses Forte Agent
>>6.00/32.1186...and compare the two for (2) other data bits that will
>>ID both the machine it comes from and other data.

Is that one of your "bounty hunter" tricks? How many perps did you
catch with it? Come to think of it, since you have bounty hunting
skills, <chuckle> why not put those to work instead of writing posts
about being too broke to pay your rent? Or make some money at ANY of
the other careers you claimed in this post.

"Ski lift operator
Canoe vendor (really)
Fry Cook at A&W
Ski instructor
Cutter gun operator at boat builder
Photographer
Military
deputy sheriff
Alarm Co founder
Time clock tech
pawn shop manager
Private investigator
gunsmith
welder
Quasi-machinist
machine tool repair dooood
teacher
bouncer in a whorehouse (Ely, Nevada)
bartender
bouncer in several bars
author
paid hunter
electrician
ambulence driver
teacher (different field)
body guard 100% sucess rate
bounty hunter (bad people)
bounty hunter/trapper/critters
male escort (for ladies)
pimp (with great reluctance)

Several more of no great import."

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.machines.cnc/QZ8qDnIF0gg/8jqUocY23cgJ

>>But it takes about 15-30 minutes to do and so far..Ive not bothered.

Oh yeah, waaay better to spend hours per day writing nonsense on
Usenet and Facebook! Typical "workaholic." LOL

>>He is a fun playtoy to pull the wings off of, now and then, but he is
>>nothing more.

My spider sense is tingling... it tells me that you're about to write
another elaborate violent fantasy...

>>Once a week I send a batch of emails attached to a complaint to the
>>above complaint link.

No. Because as you well know, nobody is going to take complaints
seriously when they come from the author of "the great cull" and a
million other fantasies, including the one about having a nym
"registration!"

>But as we all know...Eternal September is an
>>outlaws free host. When he ultimately gets blown off ..as he has on
>>two other paid cites..there are several others he can get free access
>>to. So either he goes away on his own, or is killed, Im stuck with
>>having my very own stalker.

Stalking is a crime. The only thing you need to do is call the cops.
They'll conduct an investigation to determine if any laws were broken,
or if you are just a pathetic and hysterically funny liar. They'd
surely go the extra mile for the guy who helped so much in the war
against drugs. "Ive arrested some 2500 or more of them over the
years."
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.survivalism/msg/5587a26b9180b99b
The only small problem you might have is if you're already known to
the cops as a deadbeat waste of time phony "former LEO." And of
course, if they don't know about that lie already, they'll find out
right quick when they read the Wieber Cliff Notes.

>> Now the
>>moment his ID is discovered...all bets are off. Ive got lots of
>>friends across the US, and we owe each other favors......shrug.

It's frequently difficult to tell the difference between you and
Parody Wieber. Who is supposed to believe that you have friends who'll
murder for you? How many "favor" murders have you committed? What
happened to the "computer wienies" friends you claimed would be ending
your torment?

>>The fingers between a steel pipe and a 16 oz ball pien would simpy be
>>an early appatizer, with many hours to go. Id go get a burger
>>afterwards. Shrug. Only issue I can think of...curley fries or
>>crisscut fries.

Is there anything more impotent than writing these ridiculous threats
when you KNOW it will only result in more mockery?

Did it ever occur to you, even briefly, that the most likely way to
stop being ridiculed for lying, would be to stop lying?

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 07:34:36 -0700, Sprawl ll <S...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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>On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 12:43:55 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>One of these days Ill simply do a search on who uses Forte Agent
>>>6.00/32.1186...and compare the two for (2) other data bits that will
>>>ID both the machine it comes from and other data.
>
>Is that one of your "bounty hunter" tricks? How many perps did you
>catch with it? Come to think of it, since you have bounty hunting
>skills, <chuckle> why not put those to work instead of writing posts
>about being too broke to pay your rent? Or make some money at ANY of
>the other careers you claimed in this post.
>
>"Ski lift operator

Bear Mountain, Grayling Michigan, 68-71 winters of coruse

>Canoe vendor (really)
Bourdeis Canoe Livery...same date range as the above..summers of
course.

>Fry Cook at A&W
Grayling Michigan, humm..about 68-69, summers

>Ski instructor
Grayling Michigan, 70-71 Bear Mountain. I was also on the Sky Patrol
at the same time.

>Cutter gun operator at boat builder

Dell Quay Dorry Company, Grayling Michigan, spring of 1971
>Photographer
Buzz Stanton, ariel Photography, Highschool yearbook photog, then
later in 1974-80, did weddings etc as a side gig.
>Military
1971-74
>deputy sheriff
1977-83, FCSD

>Alarm Co founder
West Side Security, 1977-1992

>Time clock tech
Cincinatti Time Equipment Co. Bakersfield California, 1994-1997
>pawn shop manager
Diamond Jewelry and Loan, Taft, California, 1992-1994

>Private investigator
West Side Security, see above dates

>gunsmith
Still am.

>welder
still am

>Quasi-machinist
Still am

>machine tool repair dooood
1997-Current
Coyote Engineering

>teacher
teacher in Machining, CNC programming, machine repair

>bouncer in a whorehouse (Ely, Nevada)

Green Lantern, Ely, Nev.

>bartender
See above, + El Patio, Taft Califoriia

>bouncer in several bars

See last 2 cites.

>author
See Google for publications.

>paid hunter
Coalinga, California, Ely Ranch, Nevada, Taft, Cal

>electrician
1994-2000. California RME, C-7 & C-10
>ambulence driver
FCSD

>teacher (different field)
Various

>body guard 100% sucess rate

1977-1992, WestSide Security

>bounty hunter (bad people)
See last

>bounty hunter/trapper/critters
1977-current

>male escort (for ladies)

1980

>pimp (with great reluctance)

See Green Lantern time line

>
>Several more of no great import."
>
>https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.machines.cnc/QZ8qDnIF0gg/8jqUocY23cgJ
>
>>>But it takes about 15-30 minutes to do and so far..Ive not bothered.
>
>Oh yeah, waaay better to spend hours per day writing nonsense on
>Usenet and Facebook! Typical "workaholic." LOL

The opinion of a mentally ill harasser is noted with amustment

>
>>>He is a fun playtoy to pull the wings off of, now and then, but he is
>>>nothing more.
>
>My spider sense is tingling... it tells me that you're about to write
>another elaborate violent fantasy...

Perhaps you are not following your med schedual?

>
>>>Once a week I send a batch of emails attached to a complaint to the
>>>above complaint link.
>
>No. Because as you well know, nobody is going to take complaints
>seriously when they come from the author of "the great cull" and a
>million other fantasies, including the one about having a nym
>"registration!"

See above comment on mentally ill harasser.

>
>>But as we all know...Eternal September is an
>>>outlaws free host. When he ultimately gets blown off ..as he has on
>>>two other paid cites..there are several others he can get free access
>>>to. So either he goes away on his own, or is killed, Im stuck with
>>>having my very own stalker.
>
>Stalking is a crime. The only thing you need to do is call the cops.
>They'll conduct an investigation to determine if any laws were broken,
>or if you are just a pathetic and hysterically funny liar. They'd
>surely go the extra mile for the guy who helped so much in the war
>against drugs. "Ive arrested some 2500 or more of them over the
>years."
>http://groups.google.com/group/misc.survivalism/msg/5587a26b9180b99b
>The only small problem you might have is if you're already known to
>the cops as a deadbeat waste of time phony "former LEO." And of
>course, if they don't know about that lie already, they'll find out
>right quick when they read the Wieber Cliff Notes.

Only pussies call the cops about someone in another state over stuff
on Usenet. It should be handled quietly and privately. There is more
enjoyment in handling some things. Do you pay someone to pet your dog
or fuck your old lady?

>
>>> Now the
>>>moment his ID is discovered...all bets are off. Ive got lots of
>>>friends across the US, and we owe each other favors......shrug.
>
>It's frequently difficult to tell the difference between you and
>Parody Wieber. Who is supposed to believe that you have friends who'll
>murder for you? How many "favor" murders have you committed? What
>happened to the "computer wienies" friends you claimed would be ending
>your torment?

My torment? My back problems? I hope you arent including yourself in
"my torment". You are just a frogs fart.

>
>>>The fingers between a steel pipe and a 16 oz ball pien would simpy be
>>>an early appatizer, with many hours to go. Id go get a burger
>>>afterwards. Shrug. Only issue I can think of...curley fries or
>>>crisscut fries.
>
>Is there anything more impotent than writing these ridiculous threats
>when you KNOW it will only result in more mockery?

I think it wll be curley fries with chili.

>
>Did it ever occur to you, even briefly, that the most likely way to
>stop being ridiculed for lying, would be to stop lying?

Feel free to review and investigate the above employment data and get
back to all of us. Or would you rather continue in your little
fantasy world where you know everything, can see everything and are
omnipotent?
Need some phone numbers, simply ask and Ill ponder. Now if another
member here asks for them, Id be happy as hell to provide them to
them.
You also seem to have not discovered Facebook, Grayling Michigan,
Class of 1971. Feel free to join and ask about my early years.

Now Im getting ready to go back to LA. See yah!. Well..not this
nym..but your next one.

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 09:55:45 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>

Hint.. Gun Test magazine, mid 1980s, back when it was printed on rag
paper and didnt have any ads in it.
The Colt 45, co author
various others.

Look up my "3030 Faq" on the net. Hell...here is the link

https://www.scribd.com/document/103502611/3030faq

>
>>paid hunter
>Coalinga, California, Ely Ranch, Nevada, Taft, Cal
>
>>electrician
>1994-2000. California RME, C-7 & C-10
>>ambulence driver
>FCSD
>
>>teacher (different field)

>Various,
I forgot to mention Taft ROP, assistant instructor in Photography and
darkroom techniques instructor.
Archery instructor
They didnt pay much, but I got to use the facilities whenever I
wanted. Shrug. Anybody need any 4x5 enlargers? I have two Omega Ds,
plus a color enlarger just collecting dust and going bad

Oh..as a side note...you seemed to have missed some other data about
the organizationis and clubs Ive belonged to and/Or officated at.
President, Sierra Sailing Assoc.
Im currently trying to get enough people interested in sailing to
restart the club again.

Rangemaster, Taft Rifle Club
Instructor, 4H junior shooting program
President, Taft Sillouette Club

Then there is Life Member, NRA
California Rifle and Pistol Assoc
JFPO member for 25 or so years
Instructor, Central Valley Militia
VP, Coalinga Rifle Club, back in the late 70s/early 80s
Assistant Rangemaster, Taft Gun Club..when I have the time.
International Metallic Sillouette shooter and competitor
Combat Handgun association competitor.
As Ive mentioned..I didnt shoot for about 3 yrs after the stroke, both
in fear of my disablity and due to some physical issues after the
stroke, which are now, thankfuly..gone. I cant run very well anymore,
but I can still shoot.

Need some photos of a couple trophys to show the date ranges?
Im not sure if I have my old Camp Perry papers. One of these days Ill
look.
Retired member http://www.uspa.org/
When the back went...I couldnt jump anymore, same with rodeo
http://www.prorodeo.com/
Same with bike racing
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/motorcycle-racing/flat-track/
http://www.sidecarracers.com/


Ive physically worn myself out, largely having a very good time doing
it..but..Im not the physical beast I used to be. Which is hardly
surprising at the age of 63. My "extreme sports" days are long behind
me. The (2) back surgeries slowed me down a fair amount as did
increasing responsiblity to the companies I managed, ran or
supervised. Lots of dings, busted bones, the odd bullet hole or bit of
shrapnel still floating around inside hasnt helped much either. PTSD
takes many forms. On introspection...what the millenials call
"Extreme Sports" today..was part of my healing. Shrug.

Im sure there are other groups..oh yeah..Professional Archers Assoc,
back in the 60s and 70s. I think its been morphed into another group
now. After the stroke..some..some old details went into deep mental
storage. Like the fact I owned a big assed service van..and forgot it
for a year.
Oh..and Kendo but that was something I simply dabbled at. Shrug. Never
did really get into it, just joined a club and worked on technique and
form.

Now I really..really need to get on the road.

[Sprawl ll]

On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:50:32 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

<snipped most of the usual Wieber BS>

>Same with bike racing
>http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/motorcycle-racing/flat-track/
>http://www.sidecarracers.com/

LOL Ok, I can play that game. Here is proof I am King of Mars.
http://space-facts.com/mars/

No, Wieber. You are merely someone stupid enough to list dozens of
skills and abilities in the same place where everyone knows you've
never been able to earn a decent living.

>Ive physically worn myself out,

No. Your diet and smoking aged you age prematurely. Your "good" days,
such as they were, are miles behind you. Strange that with your
precognition you didn't see it coming, eh?

> My "extreme sports" days are long behind
>me.

Hahahaha! There's no reason your fantasies can't be as vivid as ever.

> PTSD takes many forms.

Post Traumatic Spuriousness Disorder?

>Now I really..really need to get on the road.

No, you need to get a job. How do you imagine your newest posts will
help with that? I think Sean Spicer's position will be open before
long. You should apply for that one as well. How many resumes so far?

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[Sprawl ll]

On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 09:55:45 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 07:34:36 -0700, Sprawl ll <S...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>Stalking is a crime. The only thing you need to do is call the cops.
>>They'll conduct an investigation to determine if any laws were broken,
>>or if you are just a pathetic and hysterically funny liar. They'd
>>surely go the extra mile for the guy who helped so much in the war
>>against drugs. "Ive arrested some 2500 or more of them over the
>>years."
>>http://groups.google.com/group/misc.survivalism/msg/5587a26b9180b99b
>>The only small problem you might have is if you're already known to
>>the cops as a deadbeat waste of time phony "former LEO." And of
>>course, if they don't know about that lie already, they'll find out
>>right quick when they read the Wieber Cliff Notes.
>
>Only pussies call the cops

There's one thing that your rationalizations always have in common -
they all involve doing nothing but talk.

> about someone in another state over stuff
>on Usenet.

What state would that be?

> It should be handled quietly and privately.

And quickly, don't you think? LOL

>>Did it ever occur to you, even briefly, that the most likely way to
>>stop being ridiculed for lying, would be to stop lying?
>
>Feel free to review and investigate the above employment data

That would be as stupid as trying to track down the radar gun cop and
the 264 mph motorcycle. It's far easier to check here.
http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
Nope, still no evidence you can come up $100 twice a year. Anyone who
can't pay bills that small is either unqualified to earn a living, or
seriously lazy, or a dirtbag, or all three. Anyway you slice it,
unemployable.

>Now Im getting ready to go back to LA.

You mean to the "business" that's failed to fix your financial
problems for twenty years? Good plan! Stay the course, eh? I presume
you're staying in the Sheraton Caravan tonight? It's probably best not
to eat the brown mints on the pillows, or drink any of the courtesy
apple juice.

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[Good Soldier Schweik]

On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:50:32 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>

California must be a horrible place. After all, here is this guy with
more skills than God.... who can't make it there.

Think of it. All these skills and still can't make enough to pay his
bills.

Or maybe it is the competition. All them there Mexicans rushing out
early in the morning to scrabble through the dumpster's. Nothing left
for wobbly weber when he rolls in at noon.

Lord! It must be hell to be a failure.

[Cold Wind]

On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 07:22:02 +0700, Good Soldier Schweik
<goods...@inop.com> wrote:


>California must be a horrible place. After all, here is this guy with
>more skills than God.... who can't make it there.

Wieber insists California is sort of post apocalypse. And yet, all my
friends there love the place. But then, they sleep in houses with
working toilets, as opposed to Wieber living it up in a van equipped
with a piss bottle.

>Think of it. All these skills and still can't make enough to pay his
>bills.

Despite all the charity! Checks to his wife. Major discounts on power
and gas bills. Free health care. Two grand a month easily. Why does
anyone accept this liar hypocritically calling himself a conservative?

>Or maybe it is the competition. All them there Mexicans rushing out
>early in the morning to scrabble through the dumpster's. Nothing left
>for wobbly weber when he rolls in at noon.

Wieber's term for his strategy is "workaholic." :)

>Lord! It must be hell to be a failure.

The worst I've seen on Usenet.

Below are two quotes, one from Wieber and one from Parody Wieber.
Tough to tell the difference.

"I had to call in some favors but thats what friends are for. <shrug>
Needless to say all the perps have been handled and I hope to have the
videos soon."

"Now the moment his ID is discovered...all bets are off. Ive got lots
of friends across the US, and we owe each other favors......shrug."

So Wieber is claiming to have a murder exchange arrangement. Which of
his knuckle dragging "friends" here will own up to being members?
Larry Jacques? Tom Gardner? Calling all members of the Wieber Murder
Exchange - here's your chance to support him with some tough talk.
Let's hear about your preferred methods. Ball pein hammers vs
impalement, etc. LOL

[Red Prepper]

I'd rather hear what TMT, Curls, or the Douchebag have to say.
<pindrop.wav>

[Cold Wind]

Old farts die of natural causes every day. Only a deluded moron would
think otherwise. I've tormented Wieber more than any of those guys.
Tough luck for him that I'm in good shape and can afford to burn as
much time as I like. All he can do is lie and whine, same as he does
about all his other problems. Count on Wieber to continue failing at
all the things normal people take for granted, like having toilets
that flush. While claiming that every barely smoked butt he finds on
the ground was on account of Trump, and that every leaky tire is
Hillary's fault. But if you're good with Wieber's brand of BS and his
infallible failure to ever provide proof of his murder squad, then I'm
here to tell you that I had O'Reilly fired.

[Red Prepper]

On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 09:34:03 -0700, Cold Wind <C...@AF.com> wrote:
> Old farts die of natural causes every day. Only a deluded moron
would
> think otherwise. I've tormented Wieber more than any of those guys.

That must have taken place mostly outside of alt.survival since I
don't recall your nym or any spectacular posts from you. You seem
like a nice guy though, so we'll remember you now. Although it was
brief, it was nice knowing you.

[Good Soldier Schweik]

On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 07:34:20 -0700, Cold Wind <C...@AF.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 07:22:02 +0700, Good Soldier Schweik
><goods...@inop.com> wrote:
>
>
>>California must be a horrible place. After all, here is this guy with
>>more skills than God.... who can't make it there.
>
>Wieber insists California is sort of post apocalypse. And yet, all my
>friends there love the place. But then, they sleep in houses with
>working toilets, as opposed to Wieber living it up in a van equipped
>with a piss bottle.

I can't say as I've not been in California for a lot of years but
Forbes says that the Median Household Income is $61,818, Job Growth
(2016) is 2.6%, and its economy is sixth biggest in the world behind
the United Kingdom. The state represents 14% of the U.S. economy.

>
>>Think of it. All these skills and still can't make enough to pay his
>>bills.
>
>Despite all the charity! Checks to his wife. Major discounts on power
>and gas bills. Free health care. Two grand a month easily. Why does
>anyone accept this liar hypocritically calling himself a conservative?

From his descriptions of all the fanciful things he is doing I'd not
refer to him as a conservative. His accounts of his heart problems
sounds more like a socialist, i.e., go to the hospital when you are
sick and don't pay.

>>Or maybe it is the competition. All them there Mexicans rushing out
>>early in the morning to scrabble through the dumpster's. Nothing left
>>for wobbly weber when he rolls in at noon.
>
>Wieber's term for his strategy is "workaholic." :)
>
>>Lord! It must be hell to be a failure.
>
>The worst I've seen on Usenet.
>
>Below are two quotes, one from Wieber and one from Parody Wieber.
>Tough to tell the difference.
>
>"I had to call in some favors but thats what friends are for. <shrug>
>Needless to say all the perps have been handled and I hope to have the
>videos soon."
>
>"Now the moment his ID is discovered...all bets are off. Ive got lots
>of friends across the US, and we owe each other favors......shrug."
>

(Some Trimmed)

It sounds more like he is fantasying. There he is, prancing around in
his blue skin suit with the big red "S" on the chest and all his Super
Hero friends spread all across the nation.

[tRudy Crayola]

Just because Bill O'Reilley refused to Molest you!
>


--
Rudy's Nut & Fruit farm- Sacramento

[You Already Know]

Now that Wieber is begging for a real job so that he can maintain his
derelict lifestyle, there may be some employers who will confirm that
it was nice of me to compile the Wieber Cliff Notes.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.machines.cnc/sqedKaK3LOM/x2tQrXyJPtoJ
Without the Cliff Notes, it would have been harder for employers to
parse Wieber's Usenet history of BS, and they might waste an interview
listening to his phony list of skills and accomplishments.

You can bet the Cliff Notes made me #1 on his fantasy hit list. And in
case it didn't, I've repeatedly asked him to make me #1. The fact that
I'm still here so many years later tells you all you need to know
about Wieber's laughable claims to be able to kill those who ridicule
him. In reality, he's simply an impotent old gasbag circling the
drain. He's spent so much time on his computer trying to be someone
that the only thing he's been able to kill is any chance of success.
His fellow losers might pretend to believe some of his fables, but all
that does is encourage him to keep fizzling on his keyboard.

[Red Prepper]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:21:59 -0700, You Already Know <y...@AF.com>
wrote:

> it was nice of me to compile the Wieber Cliff Notes.
>
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.machines.cnc/sqedKaK3LOM
/x2tQrXyJPtoJ

I was right then, this took place outside of alt.survival. The CNC
group, lol. Thanks for reminding us about Cliff, he's another one
that we won't be hearing from anytime soon.

[You Already Know]

I think one of Cliff's posts was the first time I ever read that
Wieber was a crackpot. Wieber's strategy of always increasing the
volume whenever he was confronted with his own BS served him poorly.
He was probably doomed anyway but his Usenet career put one of the
final nails in his coffin. Any hope of saving himself by getting a
real job is long gone. His laughable lie that he had anything to do
with people dying of natural causes will only squash any sympathy he
might otherwise have gotten.

[Eric Trump]

And Wieber the fabulist had nothing to do with his demise, either.

[Gunner Asch]

(Grin)

My more colorful friends arent on Usenet. Not that I know of anyways.

But then.... (VBG)

I finally figured out who my little pet stalksers are. Came to me
yesterday while up on a tall ladder running conduit across a ceiling.

Last time I recall seeing John...he was a recovering boozer whose
wife had left him and taken him to the cleaners.

Hell..that was at least 8 yrs ago. But then..I had a stroke and dont
remember dates that well after the stroke.

So Johnny boy...still a sot? Ever find another lady to put up with
you?

[Gunner Asch]

Poor widdle Johnny...simply cant seem to get his head wrapped around
the fact that my home has two perfectly good working toilets, in 2
perfectly working bathrooms. Its obvious that his boozing has caused
his braincells to short circute badly. Thats why I figured he was in
a Home for the mentally ill. He IS mentally ill. He was pretty
fucked up when I first met him..and it looks like its been downhill
ever since. And he claims I have issues....snicker.

[Gunner Asch]

This makes #754 nym that he has used. He doesnt normally post over on
alt.survival..but he has. You have seen him before many times.

His name is John Carole, and he is a failed engineer as I recall. I
really dont remember all of his details...but its him.

[Gunner Asch]

Ayup. Cliff died poorly by all accounts.

[Good Soldier Schweik]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:46:15 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>

Hmm, is this the real gunner or the ersatz gunner?

Big brag, meaningless insults, apparently can't spell well, has to use
an abbreviation for "very big grin".... Must be the real one.

[You Already Know]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:55:14 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>

wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:55:16 -0500, Red Prepper <r...@red.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:21:59 -0700, You Already Know <y...@AF.com>
>>wrote:
>>> it was nice of me to compile the Wieber Cliff Notes.
>>>
>>https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.machines.cnc/sqedKaK3LOM
>>/x2tQrXyJPtoJ
>>
>>I was right then, this took place outside of alt.survival. The CNC
>>group, lol. Thanks for reminding us about Cliff, he's another one
>>that we won't be hearing from anytime soon.
>
>Ayup. Cliff died poorly by all accounts.

That is a good example of the type of outrageous, laughable, and
unmitigated lie that motivates people to ridicule you mercilessly.

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On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:46:15 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>

Your "friends" are only colorful in the same way you are. Do you even
know any normal people? As in, people with decent jobs and homes and
prospects?

>
>But then.... (VBG)
>
>I finally figured out who my little pet stalksers are. Came to me
>yesterday while up on a tall ladder running conduit across a ceiling.
>
> Last time I recall seeing John...he was a recovering boozer whose
>wife had left him and taken him to the cleaners.

At the time he was ridiculing on Usenet you failed to mention any of
this stuff. I guess you were too focused on implying that he stole
your grinder, which it turns out, was another ridiculous lie.

"His grinder is right where he left it. He can pick it up at his
leisure and the only reason it is here at all is that he left it so I
could pay ONE OF MY GUYS to do a job I'd already more than paid him in
full , in advance and on his word that he'd finish up, to do. He also
said he'd pick it up on one of his many trips through the area.

You can toodle on by for him if that's his wish but I'm not spending
another nickle on the welfare queen.
--
John R. Carroll"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/uJjSoVJe2XM/VT6RZvliJg4J

>So Johnny boy...still a sot? Ever find another lady to put up with
>you?

Man, you are the last guy who should be talking about anybody not
having a woman. The only one who'll have you only wants you part time.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/misc.survivalism/e1JmzU50aYM/AzZ87v6x7JQJ

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On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:54:06 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>

wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:13:39 -0500, Red Prepper <r...@red.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 09:34:03 -0700, Cold Wind <C...@AF.com> wrote:
>>> Old farts die of natural causes every day. Only a deluded moron
>>would
>>> think otherwise. I've tormented Wieber more than any of those guys.
>>
>>That must have taken place mostly outside of alt.survival since I
>>don't recall your nym or any spectacular posts from you. You seem
>>like a nice guy though, so we'll remember you now. Although it was
>>brief, it was nice knowing you.
>
>This makes #754 nym that he has used. He doesnt normally post over on
>alt.survival..but he has. You have seen him before many times.
>
>His name is John Carole,

Hahaha! No.

> and he is a failed engineer as I recall. I
>really dont remember all of his details...but its him.

He is one of your victims... er, clients. LOL He ratted you out for
failing to honor a deal, and for being a phony troubleshooter.

"He was using it to clean up a piece of junk that I bought from him.
Getting it going was part of the deal if I'd buy brushes for the
traction motor - the only thing he said he'd need.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
$500 dollars worth of parts later and the thing is still a rusted out
piece of useless crap.

As for his "prowess" as an electrical trouble shooter, I picked up a
complete service manual with all of the electrical diagrams and his
"Fix" for the failed components was to bypass the fuses - TO THE
CHARGING CIRCUIT - and baste everything in PB Blaster. There wasn't
anything wrong with the charging circuit. The batteries he had cobbled
together were shit. I picked up a set from Big Joe and, miracle of
miracles, the relay's and solenoinds suddenly started working. It was
pretty obvious at that point that his real skill is bull shitting. A
ten year old could have made perfect sense of the electrical drawings
but not Gunner.

What he seemed to have a handled on was smoking my cigarrettes, and
guzzling energy drinks like a speed freak when he wasn't downing
Mountain Dew or beating his dog.

Frankly, I felt sorry for him so I stuck an extra couple hundred in
cash in his hands and bid him on his way. I needed my helper back to
do what I pay him for and it didn't look to me that Gunner would get
his job done regardless the time or money allowed. At that point, he
offered to leave his POS grinder so my guys could finish his work. I
said no, but he persisted and when he agreed to pick the thing up on
one of his trips through the area, I relented. I just wanted the guy
on his way."
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/msg/7ea5a4fb45355771

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On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:52:02 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Poor widdle Johnny...simply cant seem to get his head wrapped around
>the fact that my home has two perfectly good working toilets, in 2
>perfectly working bathrooms.

No, Wieber. You told us about the problems multiple times beginning in
2001
"Running the washer causes the septic tank (buried 4' deep) to bubble
up above the tank, then quickly seep back into the soil."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/qb8dMbndl6o/NdvfYcTs9-MJ

"flushing the toilet more than a couple times a day is problematic."

And as recently as a couple weeks ago.

"the washing machine doesnt get used. We go to the laundromat to
wash and bring em home to day. Septic tank issues are clearing up,
Crom knows Ive dumped enough bio digesters down it in the last couple
months. Its not the tank..its that pesky verticle dry well. No leach
field...just a shit well..like an oil well in reverse."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/Gr3TDdNoOrE/UqsIS4_fAgAJ

Other than farting around trying to avoid fixing the thing properly,
you've resorted to living with the issue for 16 years so far. Which
isn't the solution most readers would expect from someone who claims
to be making $75 an hour. LOL

[Mary W. Moffat]

Typically stupid Wieber attempt at deflection. The comparison between
real real and parody Wieber comments is very apt - real Wieber could
have made them both.

> My more colorful friends arent on Usenet. Not that I know of anyways.
>
> But then.... (VBG)

Same again.

>
> I finally figured out who my little pet stalksers are.

No, you didn't.

> Came to meyesterday while up on a tall ladder running conduit across a ceiling.

Typically stupid Wieber lie.

[shit gummer]

Wieber the Impotent had nothing to do with the disappearance of anyone.
I'm not sure whom you mean by Douchebag, but there's no evidence of any
kind that the persons posting as TMT or Curly Surmudgeon died. Cliff
Huprich, of course, died of a naturally occurring illness - jonny
bonkers confirmed that by speaking with Cliff's sister.

[Robert Feniello]

You're the one who claimed not to have a properly functioning septic system.

You have no idea of the identity of your tormentor. It is guaranteed
not to be whom you stupidly claim it to be. I'd love to be able to
torment you as well as he does. I don't hold a candle to him - all I
can do is sit back, laugh and let out a long whistle at how good he is.
His documentation of your abject failure is unmatched.

[Vic Dulude]

On 4/22/2017 8:54 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:13:39 -0500, Red Prepper <r...@red.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 09:34:03 -0700, Cold Wind <C...@AF.com> wrote:
>>> Old farts die of natural causes every day. Only a deluded moron
>>> would think otherwise. I've tormented Wieber more

And better!

>>> than any of those guys.
>>
>> That must have taken place mostly outside of alt.survival since I
>> don't recall your nym or any spectacular posts from you. You seem
>> like a nice guy though, so we'll remember you now. Although it was
>> brief, it was nice knowing you.
>
> This makes #754 nym that he has used.

You're so fucking stupid, loser. *I'm* the one who has used a ton of
pseudonyms (although Whoyakidding may be catching up with me.)

>
> His name is John Carole, and he is a failed engineer as I recall. I
> really dont remember all of his details...but its him.

It's not John Carole, if there even is such a person. It's not me, either.

[Vic Dulude]

On 4/22/2017 8:55 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:55:16 -0500, Red Prepper <r...@red.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:21:59 -0700, You Already Know <y...@AF.com>
>> wrote:
>>> it was nice of me to compile the Wieber Cliff Notes.
>>>
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.machines.cnc/sqedKaK3LOM
>> /x2tQrXyJPtoJ
>>
>> I was right then, this took place outside of alt.survival. The CNC
>> group, lol. Thanks for reminding us about Cliff, he's another one
>> that we won't be hearing from anytime soon.
>
> Ayup. Cliff died poorly by all accounts.

You have no "account" of his death, of course. You're bullshitting to
claim otherwise. Now you'll put on your shrill bitch voice and shriek
"Cite!" You'll get none, of course - it's just too obviously another
bullshit Wieber yarn.

[Rudy Canoza]

It was the real loser Wieber, not Parody Wieber. One of the biggest
"tells" is when he claims to have figured out the real identity of one
of his tormentors. He *never* has done that.

> Big brag, meaningless insults, apparently can't spell well, has to use
> an abbreviation for "very big grin".... Must be the real one.

Parody Wieber usually gets the real loser Wieber style down pretty well,
but there's one obvious clue as to which as which. The one to whom
you're replying is the bona fide true loser Wieber.

[Suburban War]

But it's great that he believes his primary tormenter is one of his
(dissatisfied) customers, that the guy lives only a few hours drive
away, and Wieber has already been to the guy's house so he knows where
it is.

"His name is John Carole"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/sfa_u3whX7c/c6DxLZBgBgAJ

>> Came to meyesterday while up on a tall ladder running conduit across a ceiling.
>
>Typically stupid Wieber lie.

Much like this one

"Now the moment his ID is discovered...all bets are off.

The fingers between a steel pipe and a 16 oz ball pien would simpy be
an early appatizer, with many hours to go.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/sfa_u3whX7c/16kQ2noLBQAJ

So:
A. Wieber insists he "knows" the ID of his tormenter.
B. Wieber says the guy is done for.

Now for the burning questions...

1. Is Wieber on his way to the guy's house with a pipe and hammer?
2. Is he too busy digging a desperately needed leach field with his
invisible backhoe?
3. Will he do nothing but BS for the rest of his miserable life and
remain the most deservedly ridiculed loser ever to poster on Usenet?

[Mary W. Moffat]

No - nor has he called in a "favor" from any of his Murder Exchange
buddies to do it.

> 2. Is he too busy digging a desperately needed leach field with his
> invisible backhoe?

He *ought* to be doing something about his septic system problems, but
he isn't. "Verticle [sic] well" - haw haw haw haw haw!

> 3. Will he do nothing but BS for the rest of his miserable life and
> remain the most deservedly ridiculed loser ever to poster on Usenet?

Guaran-effing-teed.


Wieber has claimed to know my real identity, too, and said that
"friends" of his - presumably other members of the Murder Exchange -
would cruise by on motorcycles in the middle of the night to check out
my house and ostensibly check to see if the tree in front of my house is
strong enough for them to string me up from it. I knew he was woofing
emptily, as usual.

[Suburban War]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 12:35:29 -0700, "Mary W. Moffat"

Murder Exchange member gets a call...

MEm: Hello
MW: The dreaded Wieber here, need you to kill someone not far from me.
MEw: Why don't you do it yourself?
MW: Cash is tight... very tight, no plates on my war wagon. Can't find
my ball peen hammer. Gun shortage. Too busy going to black tie
dinners. Remember that rusty junk I gave you? Time to pay up.

>> 2. Is he too busy digging a desperately needed leach field with his
>> invisible backhoe?
>
>He *ought* to be doing something about his septic system problems, but
>he isn't. "Verticle [sic] well" - haw haw haw haw haw!

I made a parody post of his hilarious "repair" efforts, by copying and
pasted some of his quotes over the years. He's asked for fracking
advice for a plastic pipe! He's dumped acid down the dry well. He's
been fishing in the hole with a depth line. But curiously, <chuckle>
he never mentions his imaginary backhoe, _at all._ Any normal person
would call a driller and have a new dry well installed, which would
take mere hours. A dead broke DIYer who owned a backhoe would cobble
up a working pit or field in an afternoon. The same guy without a
backhoe could do the job with a shovel over the course of few
weekends. In fact, I dug about a hundred feet of leach trenches at my
parents place when I was about 12. Only the amazing self-described
"workaholic" Wieber would manage to talk about the problem for 16
years without ever doing anything useful.

>> 3. Will he do nothing but BS for the rest of his miserable life and
>> remain the most deservedly ridiculed loser ever to poster on Usenet?
>
>Guaran-effing-teed.
>
>
>Wieber has claimed to know my real identity, too, and said that
>"friends" of his - presumably other members of the Murder Exchange -
>would cruise by on motorcycles in the middle of the night to check out
>my house and ostensibly check to see if the tree in front of my house is
>strong enough for them to string me up from it. I knew he was woofing
>emptily, as usual.

He let the cat out of the bag when he described how he dealt with one
of his wife's boyfriends.

"I asked why he had not visited her in the hospital. He stated it was
the husbands job. I then asked if that was so.. how come he was
fucking her.. He coughed spit and hung up the phone. He had admitted
knowing full well she was married in all the previous occasions over
the years, and knowing I knew nothing about them for a long time. I
then suggested he had no honor, and he agreed."

This kind of stern talking-to reminds me of a scene from Life of
Brian. #25 here.
http://www.ranker.com/list/life-of-brian-quotes/movie-and-tv-quotes

[Schuman]

On 4/23/2017 12:38 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> It was the real loser Wieber, not Parody Wieber.

The best:



11 years ago, while posting under this current nym, Rudy Canoza, we had a
discussion about a revised marketing claim concerning grass-fed beef from
USDA. You claimed that you had written to and received a reply from
William T.
Sessions, Associate Deputy Administrator, Livestock and Seed Program. Here
below is the post you wrote using the nym Rudy Canoza containing your
correspondence with William Sessions.

[start- Jon to me]
Eat shit and bark at the moon, Dreck - the proposed
standard has NOT been adopted. I wrote to William
Sessions, the associate deputy administrator (how's
that for a title) at the Livestock and Seed Program at
USDA that is in charge of writing the standard for the
"meat marketing claims"; his name, title and e-mail
address are at a web page whose URL I gave yesterday,
http://www.fass.org/fasstrack/news_item.asp?news_id=1152

Here's his reply:

From: "Sessions, William" <William....@usda.gov>
To: <jonball@[...]>
Mr. Ball: Thanks for your message. The marketing claim
standards are still under review by USDA. Accordingly, the
standards have not been published in a final form for use. I
hope this information is helpful.
Please let me know if further information is needed.
Thanks,
William T. Sessions
Associate Deputy Administrator
Livestock and Seed Program

-----Original Message-----
From: jonball@[...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Sessions, William
Subject: 2003 proposed standards for meat marketing claims

I have read about the proposed standards, and I've seen
many of the public comments sent to USDA. I cannot find
anything to indicate if the standards were adopted.
Were the standards as proposed in 2003 adopted?

Thanks in advance.
Jonathan Ball
Pasadena, CA
___________________________________________________
Jonathan Ball aka Rudy Canoza 08 Sep 2005 http://bit.ly/2cYknsh
[end]

Jonathan Ball. Pasadena, CA. Priceless! That email, posted from Jonathan
Ball,
you, and the return email sent to Jonathan Ball proves beyond all doubt that
you are Jonathan Ball. Of course, you don't live in Pasadena since moving to
5327 Shepard Ave Sacramento, CA 95819-1731

Here's the proof Jonathan D Ball http://bit.ly/1LFy9t8

> and I won't die soon.

Yeah you will. You're an old man who hasn't looked after himself. I wouldn't
go around goading people if I was as small and as puny as you are, liar Jon.
You ought to be very careful.

> You certainly have no means to hasten my death.

Are you really serious, weed? you're just over 5 feet tall and 64 years old.
You'll be 65 on December 2nd. You've got to stop threatening people and
goading them to come after you. You're pathetic.

[Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:13:30 -0700, You Already Know <y...@AF.com>

wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:55:14 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:55:16 -0500, Red Prepper <r...@red.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:21:59 -0700, You Already Know <y...@AF.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>> it was nice of me to compile the Wieber Cliff Notes.
>>>>
>>>https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.machines.cnc/sqedKaK3LOM
>>>/x2tQrXyJPtoJ
>>>
>>>I was right then, this took place outside of alt.survival. The CNC
>>>group, lol. Thanks for reminding us about Cliff, he's another one
>>>that we won't be hearing from anytime soon.
>>
>>Ayup. Cliff died poorly by all accounts.
>
>That is a good example of the type of outrageous, laughable, and
>unmitigated lie that motivates people to ridicule you mercilessly.
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So he died peacefully?

(Grin)

Really?

ROFLMAO!

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On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:16:56 -0700, You Already Know <y...@AF.com>
wrote:

Interesting post. I recall that one kinda sorta. It was as bullshit
filled then as it is today.

(Grin)

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What..>I got the spelling wrong?

[Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:26:58 -0700, You Already Know <y...@AF.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:52:02 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Poor widdle Johnny...simply cant seem to get his head wrapped around
>>the fact that my home has two perfectly good working toilets, in 2
>>perfectly working bathrooms.
>
>No, Wieber. You told us about the problems multiple times beginning in
>2001
>"Running the washer causes the septic tank (buried 4' deep) to bubble
>up above the tank, then quickly seep back into the soil."
>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/qb8dMbndl6o/NdvfYcTs9-MJ
>
>"flushing the toilet more than a couple times a day is problematic."

Ayup. When the toilet gets flushed more than a couple times a day..it
would start backing up. So I had to have it pumped. Now I religiously
put the various bacteria cleaners down it and guess what..its cleaning
up the system pretty well. Took a shower this morning, ran a load of
clothes and made a couple internet trolls in the toilet, still working
fine.

I finally figured out how to keep it working properly.

>
>And as recently as a couple weeks ago.
>
>"the washing machine doesnt get used. We go to the laundromat to
>wash and bring em home to day. Septic tank issues are clearing up,
>Crom knows Ive dumped enough bio digesters down it in the last couple
>months. Its not the tank..its that pesky verticle dry well. No leach
>field...just a shit well..like an oil well in reverse."
>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/Gr3TDdNoOrE/UqsIS4_fAgAJ

Ayup, cleaning up nicely. We are never going to get city sewer here.
Shrug. And no leech field, so we have to deal with a dry well. I put
it in in 1987. The ol lady used the wrong detergent for way too many
years and I never thought to check what she was using. Changed the
way she did laundry, finally. Had a bit of resistance over it...but
she found out that if she used the right soap..she could flush the
toilet. Seems to have worked miracles with her..and the septic system.

>
>Other than farting around trying to avoid fixing the thing properly,
>you've resorted to living with the issue for 16 years so far. Which
>isn't the solution most readers would expect from someone who claims
>to be making $75 an hour. LOL

So whats the proper fix? Do tell.

And yeah..I do make $75 an hour. The problem is..its not a 9-5 job. If
I was making 40 hrs a week, Id be able to pay someone to visit you
some dark night.
(Grin)

Maybe Ill win the Lottery. If that happens...hide.
Really well.

(Grin)

[Gunner Asch]

So whats Bonkers doing these days? Did he ever get out of prison yet?

[Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:15:59 -0700, You Already Know <y...@AF.com>
wrote:

Murder Exchange? That would be a bad thing! Violence! Not a good
thing! Bad!

>>
>>(Grin)
>>
>>My more colorful friends arent on Usenet. Not that I know of anyways.
>
>Your "friends" are only colorful in the same way you are. Do you even
>know any normal people? As in, people with decent jobs and homes and
>prospects?

Oh of course I do. I even have some family members like that.
Shrug...my sister of course..my Da and his new wife, some of my
cousins and even a few friends.

Most of them in fact. But..not all of them.

(VBG)

>
>>
>>But then.... (VBG)
>>
>>I finally figured out who my little pet stalksers are. Came to me
>>yesterday while up on a tall ladder running conduit across a ceiling.
>>
>> Last time I recall seeing John...he was a recovering boozer whose
>>wife had left him and taken him to the cleaners.
>
>At the time he was ridiculing on Usenet you failed to mention any of
>this stuff. I guess you were too focused on implying that he stole
>your grinder, which it turns out, was another ridiculous lie.
>
>"His grinder is right where he left it. He can pick it up at his
>leisure and the only reason it is here at all is that he left it so I
>could pay ONE OF MY GUYS to do a job I'd already more than paid him in
>full , in advance and on his word that he'd finish up, to do. He also
>said he'd pick it up on one of his many trips through the area.
>
>You can toodle on by for him if that's his wish but I'm not spending
>another nickle on the welfare queen.

What..did I lose a grinder to you? I dont remember. But then..I did
have a stroke a 7 or so years ago. What kind was it?

I vagely remember something about a 9" Milwaukee, but I have 2 other
similar Milwaukees out in the shop...so...

Let me know.

Gunner

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On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 10:05:44 -0700, "Mary W. Moffat"
<little.cloud@heaven> wrote:

>>>

>>> So Wieber is claiming to have a murder exchange arrangement. Which of
>>> his knuckle dragging "friends" here will own up to being members?
>>> Larry Jacques? Tom Gardner? Calling all members of the Wieber Murder
>>> Exchange - here's your chance to support him with some tough talk.
>>> Let's hear about your preferred methods. Ball pein hammers vs
>>> impalement, etc. LOL
>>
>> (Grin)
>
>Typically stupid Wieber attempt at deflection. The comparison between
>real real and parody Wieber comments is very apt - real Wieber could
>have made them both.

You are being pretty creative. Kudos!

>
>> My more colorful friends arent on Usenet. Not that I know of anyways.
>>
>> But then.... (VBG)
>
>Same again.

But not very smart.

>
>>
>> I finally figured out who my little pet stalksers are.
>
>No, you didn't.
>
>> Came to meyesterday while up on a tall ladder running conduit across a ceiling.
>
>Typically stupid Wieber lie.

Actually..you are getting even more stupid, if thats possible. Perhaps
you are an idiot savant?

Did you call any of the people I listed for you earlier in the week?
Feel free. Call NJ Engineering in Santa Ana, California. Ask em if
Ive been wiring their shop. Double dog dare you, you buffoonish
dickweed.

(VBG)

You were a loser then, and are an even bigger loser today.

(VBG)

Gunner

[Gunner Asch]

I will have to prove who it is. Which might take some effort. Im not
sure where you live, or even how you spell your name properly.
Last I knew you were living in that semi-tumble down house in Long
Beach or somewhere close to there...No idea where you have been cast
up since then. But it will be fun looking.

Got lots of time for that. You have been on my ass for at least 5
yrs...Im not going anywhere. Time to discover lots of things.

(VBG)

[Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 12:35:29 -0700, "Mary W. Moffat"

Murder Exchange? My but you certainly are living a rich and
interesting fantasy world.

768 Nyms so far. Its quite good to see you prove what a liar you
are, to all the readers.

Tsk tsk tsk.

Gunner

[Vic Dulude]

On 4/23/2017 4:46 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:13:30 -0700, You Already Know <y...@AF.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:55:14 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:55:16 -0500, Red Prepper <r...@red.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:21:59 -0700, You Already Know <y...@AF.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> it was nice of me to compile the Wieber Cliff Notes.
>>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.machines.cnc/sqedKaK3LOM
>>>> /x2tQrXyJPtoJ
>>>>
>>>> I was right then, this took place outside of alt.survival. The CNC
>>>> group, lol. Thanks for reminding us about Cliff, he's another one
>>>> that we won't be hearing from anytime soon.
>>>
>>> Ayup. Cliff died poorly by all accounts.
>>
>> That is a good example of the type of outrageous, laughable, and
>> unmitigated lie that motivates people to ridicule you mercilessly.
>>
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> So he died peacefully?

You have no knowledge of how Cliff Huprich died. You had nothing to do
with it. No, you won't get a "cite" for that - it's basic knowledge.

[Vic Dulude]

Everyone following the groups where it was posted, including your
so-called "friends", believes it and not you.

[Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 15:46:59 -0700, Suburban War <S...@AF.com> wrote:

> Any normal person
>would call a driller and have a new dry well installed, which would
>take mere hours.

Ayup..certainly would. However... Ive been quoted $5k for that. Dont
have it. Wont have $5000 anytime soon. Unfortunately.

Fortunately..Ive healed the dry well up reasonably well (no pun
intended). But I have to watch it. Afterall..its over 30 yrs old. And
its almost up against the back fence in the middle of the yard. So
drilling one to the right or the left will be a problem. Way too much
stuff has to go away. Ive tasked the roommate to start clearing out a
bunch of stuff. But its gonna take time.

If Id known better in '87, Id have put the septic tank and dry well in
a much different place. Shrug..live and learn.


Gunner

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Along with everything else.

[Vic Dulude]

On 4/23/2017 4:57 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:26:58 -0700, You Already Know <y...@AF.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:52:02 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Poor widdle Johnny...simply cant seem to get his head wrapped around
>>> the fact that my home has two perfectly good working toilets, in 2
>>> perfectly working bathrooms.
>>
>> No, Wieber. You told us about the problems multiple times beginning in
>> 2001
>> "Running the washer causes the septic tank (buried 4' deep) to bubble
>> up above the tank, then quickly seep back into the soil."
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/qb8dMbndl6o/NdvfYcTs9-MJ
>>
>> "flushing the toilet more than a couple times a day is problematic."
>
> Ayup. When the toilet gets flushed more than a couple times a day..it
> would start backing up.

So then this:

my home has two perfectly good working toilets, in 2
perfectly working bathrooms.

Is a lie. That's good - confession is good for the...well, for your
hemorrhoids, since you don't have a soul.

>>
>> And as recently as a couple weeks ago.
>>
>> "the washing machine doesnt get used. We go to the laundromat to
>> wash and bring em home to day. Septic tank issues are clearing up,
>> Crom knows Ive dumped enough bio digesters down it in the last couple
>> months. Its not the tank..its that pesky verticle dry well. No leach
>> field...just a shit well..like an oil well in reverse."
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/Gr3TDdNoOrE/UqsIS4_fAgAJ
>
> Ayup, cleaning up nicely. We are never going to get city sewer here.

Haw haw haw! You could *never* live in a locale that has sewers.

> Shrug. And no leech field, so we have to deal with a dry well. I put
> it in in 1987. The ol lady used the wrong detergent

Haw haw haw! Still blaming someone else for your own ineptitude and
always-fucking-up approach to live.

>> Other than farting around trying to avoid fixing the thing properly,
>> you've resorted to living with the issue for 16 years so far. Which
>> isn't the solution most readers would expect from someone who claims
>> to be making $75 an hour. LOL
>
> So whats the proper fix?

Money.

> And yeah..I do make $75 an hour.

<chuckle> No one, not even your putative "friends" here, believes that.

[shit gummer]

On 4/23/2017 4:58 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

He's not in prison, and you have no evidence that he ever was.

That was a nice indirect and cowardly way for you to admit that you have
never had one goddamned thing to do with the disappearance of anyone
from this or any other newsgroup. The only one whose death you know of
is Huprich, and as far as you know he died of a naturally occurring
illness. All the woofing about his having come to foul play is bullshit.

[shit gummer]

So you agree you were bullshitting in saying you know people around the
country who could and would do someone in. Of course, we already knew
it was bullshit.

>>> (Grin)
>>>
>>> My more colorful friends arent on Usenet. Not that I know of anyways.
>>
>> Your "friends" are only colorful in the same way you are. Do you even
>> know any normal people? As in, people with decent jobs and homes and
>> prospects?
>
> Oh of course I do. I even have some family members like that.

And certainly not you.

>
> (VBG)

The usual Wieber concession of defeat.

>
>>
>>>
>>> But then.... (VBG)

And again.

>>>
>>> I finally figured out who my little pet stalksers are. Came to me
>>> yesterday while up on a tall ladder running conduit across a ceiling.
>>>
>>> Last time I recall seeing John...he was a recovering boozer whose
>>> wife had left him and taken him to the cleaners.
>>
>> At the time he was ridiculing on Usenet you failed to mention any of
>> this stuff. I guess you were too focused on implying that he stole
>> your grinder, which it turns out, was another ridiculous lie.
>>
>> "His grinder is right where he left it. He can pick it up at his
>> leisure and the only reason it is here at all is that he left it so I
>> could pay ONE OF MY GUYS to do a job I'd already more than paid him in
>> full , in advance and on his word that he'd finish up, to do. He also
>> said he'd pick it up on one of his many trips through the area.
>>
>> You can toodle on by for him if that's his wish but I'm not spending
>> another nickle on the welfare queen.
>
> What..did I lose a grinder to you?

No, to your former "client" who ran you into the ground here.

> I vagely [sic] remember something about a 9" Milwaukee, but I have 2 other

> similar Milwaukees out in the shop...so...
>
> Let me know.

He's been letting you know what a hopeless loser dead-ender you are for
several years.

[shit gummer]

It's not him, fuckwit. It's not me, either.

> Got lots of time for that.

Of course you do, gummer. You're a no-work deadbeat who has nothing
*but* time, which you squander in ill-considered pursuits rather than
improving your lot in life.

> You have been on my ass for at least 5
> yrs...Im not going anywhere. Time to discover lots of things.

But *NOT* anyone's real identity.

> (VBG)

gummer's concession of defeat, again.

[Mary W. Moffat]

No, that's Whoyakidding's mockery of your bullshit claim to have
"friends" scattered around the country who would do the dirty work that
you're too gutless to do yourself.

> 768 Nyms so far.

No, I haven't used anywhere close to that number - perhaps a few dozen.
I use them because they work on you. They work on you because you're a
chump.

[shit gummer]

On 4/23/2017 5:18 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 15:46:59 -0700, Suburban War <S...@AF.com> wrote:
>
>> Any normal person
>> would call a driller and have a new dry well installed, which would
>> take mere hours.
>
> Ayup..certainly would. However... Ive been quoted $5k for that. Dont
> have it. Wont have $5000 anytime soon. Unfortunately.

Not for the rest of your life. You haven't been able to lay your hands
on $5000 for decades, and never will again.

> Fortunately..Ive healed the dry well up reasonably well (no pun
> intended). But I have to watch it. Afterall..its over 30 yrs old. And
> its almost up against the back fence in the middle of the yard. So
> drilling one to the right or the left will be a problem. Way too much
> stuff has to go away. Ive tasked the roommate to start clearing out a
> bunch of stuff. But its gonna take time.
>
> If Id known better in '87, Id have put the septic tank and dry well in
> a much different place. Shrug..live and learn.

You don't own the fucking property, you loser. You can't undertake
those kinds of things without the property owner's permission.

If you lived in a civilized place, and paid your fucking rent on time,
that kind of thing is something the property owner would do. But you
don't, and so he doesn't.

[Good Soldier Schweik]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 11:38:28 -0700, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con>
wrote:

I wasn't exactly "replying" :-) My post was rather intended to point
out that the ersatz Gunner appeared to be the better educated and
more rational.

It must be Hell to discover that the "fake" you is a better man then
the "real" you :-(

[Rudy Canoza]

No kidding! Golly!

> It must be Hell to discover that the "fake" you is a better man then
> the "real" you :-(

It's very hard to contemplate just who might /not/ be a better man than
gummer. By the caricatured standards of masculinity that gummer seems
to endorse, he is not a man at all. Even by a reasonable and thoughtful
definition of masculinity, gummer is not a man. By any standard, gummer
is a punk - a pussy.

[Gunner Asch]

Well...thats what you keep claiming


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On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 17:18:59 -0700, Vic Dulude

(VBG)

Sure John....whatever you say.

[Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 17:22:01 -0700, Vic Dulude
<another...@terrell.con> wrote:

>On 4/23/2017 4:57 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:26:58 -0700, You Already Know <y...@AF.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:52:02 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Poor widdle Johnny...simply cant seem to get his head wrapped around
>>>> the fact that my home has two perfectly good working toilets, in 2
>>>> perfectly working bathrooms.
>>>
>>> No, Wieber. You told us about the problems multiple times beginning in
>>> 2001
>>> "Running the washer causes the septic tank (buried 4' deep) to bubble
>>> up above the tank, then quickly seep back into the soil."
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/qb8dMbndl6o/NdvfYcTs9-MJ
>>>
>>> "flushing the toilet more than a couple times a day is problematic."
>>
>> Ayup. When the toilet gets flushed more than a couple times a day..it
>> would start backing up.
>
>So then this:
>
> my home has two perfectly good working toilets, in 2
> perfectly working bathrooms.
>
>Is a lie. That's good - confession is good for the...well, for your
>hemorrhoids, since you don't have a soul.

What..you dont understand simple english? That its working again?

You get more impared every hour doncha.....pity.

>
>>>
>>> And as recently as a couple weeks ago.
>>>
>>> "the washing machine doesnt get used. We go to the laundromat to
>>> wash and bring em home to day. Septic tank issues are clearing up,
>>> Crom knows Ive dumped enough bio digesters down it in the last couple
>>> months. Its not the tank..its that pesky verticle dry well. No leach
>>> field...just a shit well..like an oil well in reverse."
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/Gr3TDdNoOrE/UqsIS4_fAgAJ
>>
>> Ayup, cleaning up nicely. We are never going to get city sewer here.
>
>Haw haw haw! You could *never* live in a locale that has sewers.

Nor would I really want to. I live outside the city limits. Works
for me.

>
>> Shrug. And no leech field, so we have to deal with a dry well. I put
>> it in in 1987. The ol lady used the wrong detergent
>
>Haw haw haw! Still blaming someone else for your own ineptitude and
>always-fucking-up approach to live.

What..you claiming I did the laundry for 30 yrs? And Im competent
enough to do laundry?

ROFLMAO!!

>
>>> Other than farting around trying to avoid fixing the thing properly,
>>> you've resorted to living with the issue for 16 years so far. Which
>>> isn't the solution most readers would expect from someone who claims
>>> to be making $75 an hour. LOL
>>
>> So whats the proper fix?
>
>Money.

Gonna shit some for me? ROFLMAO!!

>
>> And yeah..I do make $75 an hour.
>
><chuckle> No one, not even your putative "friends" here, believes that.

Now we see how you try to cover your buffoonery. Snipping out portions
of the post. You truely are stupid.

(VBG)

[Gunner Asch]

So Bonkers is still in jail then. Out of couriosity...how did you
manage to talk to him? While you were in for a pre confinement
hearing l and he was up for a parole hearing?

Im glad that it didnt work out the way either of you wanted. The
People are much safer with you both locked away.

[Gunner Asch]

Murder Exchange? That sounds like something out of a B movie or..a
badly damaged brain.

>
>>>> (Grin)
>>>>
>>>> My more colorful friends arent on Usenet. Not that I know of anyways.
>>>
>>> Your "friends" are only colorful in the same way you are. Do you even
>>> know any normal people? As in, people with decent jobs and homes and
>>> prospects?
>>
>> Oh of course I do. I even have some family members like that.
>
>And certainly not you.

(VBG)

>
>>
>> (VBG)
>
>The usual Wieber concession of defeat.

I seemed to have missed that. Care to run it through at slow motion
so we all can see it?

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> But then.... (VBG)
>
>And again.
>
>>>>
>>>> I finally figured out who my little pet stalksers are. Came to me
>>>> yesterday while up on a tall ladder running conduit across a ceiling.
>>>>
>>>> Last time I recall seeing John...he was a recovering boozer whose
>>>> wife had left him and taken him to the cleaners.
>>>
>>> At the time he was ridiculing on Usenet you failed to mention any of
>>> this stuff. I guess you were too focused on implying that he stole
>>> your grinder, which it turns out, was another ridiculous lie.
>>>
>>> "His grinder is right where he left it. He can pick it up at his
>>> leisure and the only reason it is here at all is that he left it so I
>>> could pay ONE OF MY GUYS to do a job I'd already more than paid him in
>>> full , in advance and on his word that he'd finish up, to do. He also
>>> said he'd pick it up on one of his many trips through the area.
>>>
>>> You can toodle on by for him if that's his wish but I'm not spending
>>> another nickle on the welfare queen.
>>
>> What..did I lose a grinder to you?
>
>No, to your former "client" who ran you into the ground here.

So you are having a personality split thats getting progressively
worse....interesting

>
>> I vagely [sic] remember something about a 9" Milwaukee, but I have 2 other
>> similar Milwaukees out in the shop...so...
>>
>> Let me know.
>
>He's been letting you know what a hopeless loser dead-ender you are for
>several years.

So you are admitting to being Johnboi.

As I said...shrug.

All those different names you use..its not surprising you are having
identity issues.

[Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 17:32:22 -0700, shit gummer
<gro...@fag.gummer.con> wrote:

>On 4/23/2017 5:18 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 15:46:59 -0700, Suburban War <S...@AF.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Any normal person
>>> would call a driller and have a new dry well installed, which would
>>> take mere hours.
>>
>> Ayup..certainly would. However... Ive been quoted $5k for that. Dont
>> have it. Wont have $5000 anytime soon. Unfortunately.
>
>Not for the rest of your life. You haven't been able to lay your hands
>on $5000 for decades, and never will again.

Humm...when I spent $250k to get my kid off meth...you are right..its
been a very long time. But with Luck and a Trump economy..Ill see what
I can do. Shrug.

>
>
>> Fortunately..Ive healed the dry well up reasonably well (no pun
>> intended). But I have to watch it. Afterall..its over 30 yrs old. And
>> its almost up against the back fence in the middle of the yard. So
>> drilling one to the right or the left will be a problem. Way too much
>> stuff has to go away. Ive tasked the roommate to start clearing out a
>> bunch of stuff. But its gonna take time.
>>
>> If Id known better in '87, Id have put the septic tank and dry well in
>> a much different place. Shrug..live and learn.
>
>You don't own the fucking property, you loser. You can't undertake
>those kinds of things without the property owner's permission.

Who was the owner then?

>
>If you lived in a civilized place, and paid your fucking rent on time,
>that kind of thing is something the property owner would do. But you
>don't, and so he doesn't.

So when I got the land..they were supposed to put in a septic system
for me? DAMNIT!! Nobody told me that!!

(VBG)

[Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 17:30:14 -0700, "Mary W. Moffat"

So again you are having identity issues. Must keep the prison shrink
really busy adjusting your meds. Or is this part of your "therapy"?

Watching you melting down is absolutely amusing.

(Grin)

[Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 17:28:27 -0700, shit gummer
<gro...@fag.gummer.con> wrote:

>>
>> I will have to prove who it is. Which might take some effort. Im not
>> sure where you live, or even how you spell your name properly.
>> Last I knew you were living in that semi-tumble down house in Long
>> Beach or somewhere close to there...No idea where you have been cast
>> up since then. But it will be fun looking.
>
>It's not him, fuckwit. It's not me, either.
>
>
>> Got lots of time for that.
>
>Of course you do, gummer. You're a no-work deadbeat who has nothing
>*but* time, which you squander in ill-considered pursuits rather than
>improving your lot in life.
>
>> You have been on my ass for at least 5
>> yrs...Im not going anywhere. Time to discover lots of things.
>
>But *NOT* anyone's real identity.
>
>> (VBG)
>
>gummer's concession of defeat, again.

[Good Soldier Schweik]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 16:57:15 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:26:58 -0700, You Already Know <y...@AF.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:52:02 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>

>>>Poor widdle Johnny...simply cant seem to get his head wrapped around
>>>the fact that my home has two perfectly good working toilets, in 2
>>>perfectly working bathrooms.
>>
>>No, Wieber. You told us about the problems multiple times beginning in
>>2001
>>"Running the washer causes the septic tank (buried 4' deep) to bubble
>>up above the tank, then quickly seep back into the soil."
>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/qb8dMbndl6o/NdvfYcTs9-MJ
>>
>>"flushing the toilet more than a couple times a day is problematic."
>
>Ayup. When the toilet gets flushed more than a couple times a day..it

>would start backing up. So I had to have it pumped. Now I religiously
>put the various bacteria cleaners down it and guess what..its cleaning
>up the system pretty well. Took a shower this morning, ran a load of
>clothes and made a couple internet trolls in the toilet, still working
>fine.
>
>I finally figured out how to keep it working properly.
>

No Shit?

[Suburban War]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 16:57:15 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:26:58 -0700, You Already Know <y...@AF.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:52:02 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Poor widdle Johnny...simply cant seem to get his head wrapped around
>>>the fact that my home has two perfectly good working toilets, in 2
>>>perfectly working bathrooms.
>>
>>No, Wieber. You told us about the problems multiple times beginning in
>>2001
>>"Running the washer causes the septic tank (buried 4' deep) to bubble
>>up above the tank, then quickly seep back into the soil."
>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/qb8dMbndl6o/NdvfYcTs9-MJ
>>
>>"flushing the toilet more than a couple times a day is problematic."
>
>Ayup. When the toilet gets flushed more than a couple times a day..it
>would start backing up. So I had to have it pumped.

By that time it was too late. The solids had been going straight from
the toilets to the dry well, and it was choked. As YOU told us:

"The tank was pretty full when it was pumped (850gal) and I believe
sludge went into the dry well."

Which was correct except for your term "sludge."

> Now I religiously

Hahahaha! Yes, that junk has a lot in common with religion.

>put the various bacteria cleaners down it and guess what..its cleaning
>up the system pretty well.

No, that stuff is much like deer whistles and sonic mouse repellers.
Their primary function is to separate fools from their money.
http://www.aero-stream.com/the-absolute-truth-about-septic-tank-additives-they-dont-work/

The system is not "cleaning up," you're merely working around its
limitations in glorious trailer trash style.

> Took a shower this morning, ran a load of
>clothes and made a couple internet trolls in the toilet, still working
>fine.

LOL No, the dry well needed to be replaced at least 16 years ago.

>I finally figured out how to keep it working properly.

It isn't "working properly."

>>And as recently as a couple weeks ago.
>>
>>"the washing machine doesnt get used. We go to the laundromat to
>>wash and bring em home to day. Septic tank issues are clearing up,
>>Crom knows Ive dumped enough bio digesters down it in the last couple
>>months. Its not the tank..its that pesky verticle dry well. No leach
>>field...just a shit well..like an oil well in reverse."
>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/Gr3TDdNoOrE/UqsIS4_fAgAJ
>
>Ayup, cleaning up nicely.

No, these things don't fix themselves, moron.

> We are never going to get city sewer here.

Irrelevant. Should sewers ever be installed, you wouldn't be allowed
to connect until you paid your back taxes. Which would make the sewer
connection more expensive than a whole new septic system.

>Shrug. And no leech field, so we have to deal with a dry well. I put
>it in in 1987.

"You" put in nothing.

> The ol lady used the wrong detergent for way too many
>years and I never thought to check what she was using.

As usual, you blame someone else. Except you forgot that the last time
you told this fable, it was the "roomates."

"the roommates were using the wrong soap in
the washer"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/qb8dMbndl6o/NdvfYcTs9-MJ

>So whats the proper fix? Do tell.

New dry well, as you were no doubt told 16 years ago. Given that you
can't afford that, then any sort of new leach pit or trench. Duh.

>And yeah..I do make $75 an hour. The problem is..its not a 9-5 job.

No. You work cheap and seldom.

> If
>I was making 40 hrs a week, Id be able to pay someone to visit you
>some dark night.

No. You said you have friends to do these things as a favor.

"Now the moment his ID is discovered...all bets are off. Ive got lots
of friends across the US, and we owe each other favors......shrug."

And yet I'm able to post at will. How is that possible considering all
your proclamations? Hmmmm? LOL

[Suburban War]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 17:11:28 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

No, you already said you "know."

> Which might take some effort.

LOL

> Im not
>sure where you live,

Pretty sure you can look "me" up easily.

> or even how you spell your name properly.

Finally, you got something right.

>Last I knew you were living in that semi-tumble down house in Long
>Beach or somewhere close to there...No idea where you have been cast
>up since then. But it will be fun looking.

There will be no "looking." Only more talk talk talk.

>Got lots of time for that. You have been on my ass for at least 5
>yrs...Im not going anywhere.

You CAN'T go anywhere. No money and no hope. You can't even make water
run into the ground despite 16 years of trying. When you're sitting at
the laundromat, do you ever wonder how many leach systems you could
have dug with the time you waste making death threats?

[Suburban War]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 17:18:48 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 15:46:59 -0700, Suburban War <S...@AF.com> wrote:
>
>> Any normal person
>>would call a driller and have a new dry well installed, which would
>>take mere hours.
>
>Ayup..certainly would. However... Ive been quoted $5k for that.

No, you already said $3500.

"Ive been quoted $3500 for some schmuck to come in with a rat hole
rig, drill another dry well"

> Dont
>have it. Wont have $5000 anytime soon.

You don't have $500 either.

> Unfortunately.

No, deservedly and predictably.

> Fortunately..Ive healed the dry well up reasonably well (no pun
>intended). But I have to watch it. Afterall..its over 30 yrs old. And
>its almost up against the back fence in the middle of the yard. So
>drilling one to the right or the left will be a problem.

No, you said you left room for a new one.

"My dry well and septic tank take up an area 30' long, by 10' wide in
total. It could have been less, but I wanted room to drill another dry
well in the future."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.abortion/IjMelQ0Qs0M/8DA4QbhTxFgJ

> Way too much
>stuff has to go away. Ive tasked the roommate to start clearing out a
>bunch of stuff. But its gonna take time.

LOL This problem has been going on for 16 YEARS already!

>
>If Id known better in '87, Id have put the septic tank and dry well in
>a much different place.

You probably had nothing to do with the installation.

> Shrug..live and learn.

Bwhahaha! No, you never learn. You're here contradicting yourself
again and again. And you've been putting magic fairy dust in your
toilets for years.

[Schuman]

On 4/23/2017 10:59 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> By any standard, gummer is a punk - a pussy.

11 years ago, while posting under this current nym, Rudy Canoza, we had a
discussion about a revised marketing claim concerning grass-fed beef from
USDA. You claimed that you had written to and received a reply from
William T.
Sessions, Associate Deputy Administrator, Livestock and Seed Program. Here
below is the post you wrote using the nym Rudy Canoza containing your
correspondence with William Sessions.

[start- Jon to me]
Eat shit and bark at the moon, Dreck - the proposed
standard has NOT been adopted. I wrote to William
Sessions, the associate deputy administrator (how's
that for a title) at the Livestock and Seed Program at
USDA that is in charge of writing the standard for the
"meat marketing claims"; his name, title and e-mail
address are at a web page whose URL I gave yesterday,
http://www.fass.org/fasstrack/news_item.asp?news_id=1152

Here's his reply:

From: "Sessions, William" <William....@usda.gov>
To: <jonball@[...]>
Mr. Ball: Thanks for your message. The marketing claim
standards are still under review by USDA. Accordingly, the
standards have not been published in a final form for use. I
hope this information is helpful.
Please let me know if further information is needed.
Thanks,
William T. Sessions
Associate Deputy Administrator
Livestock and Seed Program

-----Original Message-----
From: jonball@[...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Sessions, William
Subject: 2003 proposed standards for meat marketing claims

I have read about the proposed standards, and I've seen
many of the public comments sent to USDA. I cannot find
anything to indicate if the standards were adopted.
Were the standards as proposed in 2003 adopted?

Thanks in advance.
Jonathan Ball
Pasadena, CA
___________________________________________________
Jonathan Ball aka Rudy Canoza 08 Sep 2005 http://bit.ly/2cYknsh
[end]

Jonathan Ball. Pasadena, CA. Priceless! That email, posted from Jonathan
Ball,
you, and the return email sent to Jonathan Ball proves beyond all doubt that
you are Jonathan Ball. Of course, you don't live in Pasadena since moving to
5327 Shepard Ave Sacramento, CA 95819-1731

Here's the proof Jonathan D Ball http://bit.ly/1LFy9t8

> and I won't die soon.

Yeah you will. You're an old man who hasn't looked after himself. I wouldn't
go around goading people if I was as small and as puny as you are, liar Jon.
You ought to be very careful.

> You certainly have no means to hasten my death.

Are you really serious, weed? you're just over 5 feet tall and 64 years old.
You'll be 65 on December 2nd. You've got to stop threatening people and
goading them to come after you. You're pathetic.

[Vic Dulude]

Yes, because it's true. Your claiming to have knowledge of the details
of Huprich's death that point to something other than natural causes is
right there with the 264mph motorcycle ride and the 1/3 million miles
per year driving: idiotic lies.

[Vic Dulude]

gummer admits defeat again.

[Vic Dulude]

gummer admits defeat again.

[Vic Dulude]

If you earned $75 per hour, you'd have some.

>>> And yeah..I do make $75 an hour.
>>
>> <chuckle> No one, not even your putative "friends" here, believes that.
>
> Now we see how you try to cover your buffoonery.

Nothing pertinent was snipped.

[shit gummer]

On 4/23/2017 10:58 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 17:23:57 -0700, shit gummer
> <gro...@fag.gummer.con> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> So whats Bonkers doing these days? Did he ever get out of prison yet?
>>
>> He's not in prison, and you have no evidence that he ever was.
>>
>> That was a nice indirect and cowardly way for you to admit that you have
>> never had one goddamned thing to do with the disappearance of anyone
>> from this or any other newsgroup. The only one whose death you know of
>> is Huprich, and as far as you know he died of a naturally occurring
>> illness. All the woofing about his having come to foul play is bullshit.
>
> So Bonkers is still in jail then.

He never was, other than when he was booked - and then released - for a
domestic violence charge that apparently was later dismissed.

Anyway, he did speak with Huprich's sister.

[shit gummer]

Nope. No one posting here is "John Carole" [sic]

>>> I vagely [sic] remember something about a 9" Milwaukee, but I have 2 other
>>> similar Milwaukees out in the shop...so...
>>>
>>> Let me know.
>>
>> He's been letting you know what a hopeless loser dead-ender you are for
>> several years.
>
> So you are admitting to being Johnboi.

Nope. But you already knew that.

[shit gummer]

*Is* the owner, loser. Best Real Estate Solutions LLC.

I already elaborated on how to find it. To repeat:

1. http://assessor.co.kern.ca.us/prop_search.php

2. in Property Search From set the search type to Address,
and key in '326 Olive Ave' in the address box; click Search button

3. in the results page, gummer's dump is the second one listed, with
an ATN/APN number of 039-303-04-00-2. That's a link; click on it

4. at the bottom of the main property information page for
039-303-04-00-2, note the recorded documents. These are listed in
descending date recorded. They are all deeds. The most recent one
is 211112561. Select and copy that into your clipboard.

5. Now go to the Assessor/Recorder Online page for the recorder's
office at http://recorderonline.co.kern.ca.us/ On the menu at left,
click on the Official Documents link, then in the next window under
Select Search Type click on Document Number.

6. Paste the document number you copied above into the From box and
click the Search button. You'll get a summary page of information
about the deed. At the left the document number is listed as a
link; click on it.

7. More information is displayed. You'll see that the grantors are
several trusts along with an investment company, and the grantee
is another real estate investment company.

The grantor names on the deed are:

FISERV ISS & CO
WHIFFEN JOHN TRUST
PENSCO TR CO CUSTDN
HANEY MARALYNN D IRA HAINF TRUST
POTTS ROBERT IRA PO1AK TRUST
HANEY MARALYNN D TR
HANEY WILLIAM S & MARALYNN D TRUST

The grantee - the current owner - is:

BEST REAL EST SOLUTIONS LLC

You don't own the place, liar.

>> If you lived in a civilized place, and paid your fucking rent on time,
>> that kind of thing is something the property owner would do. But you
>> don't, and so he doesn't.
>
> So when I got the land..they were supposed to put in a septic system
> for me?

You don't own the land, loser. You've already admitted that you rent it.

I managed to pay 2 months back land rent, last week. Only 1 more to
go then Im caught up.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/eHONhUwqdI4/SiRU7URNEAAJ


You don't own the property, gummer. Stop telling such stupid lies. We
know you lie, boi, but you at least ought to try to tell plausible lies.

[Mary W. Moffat]

Nope. You're having gullible loser failure chump issues - as usual.

[shit gummer]

On 4/23/2017 11:07 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 17:28:27 -0700, shit gummer
> <gro...@fag.gummer.con> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I will have to prove who it is. Which might take some effort. Im not
>>> sure where you live, or even how you spell your name properly.
>>> Last I knew you were living in that semi-tumble down house in Long
>>> Beach or somewhere close to there...No idea where you have been cast
>>> up since then. But it will be fun looking.
>>
>> It's not him, fuckwit. It's not me, either.
>>
>>
>>> Got lots of time for that.
>>
>> Of course you do, gummer. You're a no-work deadbeat who has nothing
>> *but* time, which you squander in ill-considered pursuits rather than
>> improving your lot in life.
>>
>>> You have been on my ass for at least 5
>>> yrs...Im not going anywhere. Time to discover lots of things.
>>
>> But *NOT* anyone's real identity.
>>
>>> (VBG)
>>
>> gummer's concession of defeat, again.
>
> (VBG)

gummer's repeated concession of defeat, again. You agree!

[shit gummer]

On 4/23/2017 4:57 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:26:58 -0700, You Already Know <y...@AF.com>
> wrote:

>
>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:52:02 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Poor widdle Johnny...simply cant seem to get his head wrapped around
>>> the fact that my home has two perfectly good working toilets, in 2
>>> perfectly working bathrooms.
>>
>> No, Wieber. You told us about the problems multiple times beginning in
>> 2001
>> "Running the washer causes the septic tank (buried 4' deep) to bubble
>> up above the tank, then quickly seep back into the soil."
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/qb8dMbndl6o/NdvfYcTs9-MJ
>>
>> "flushing the toilet more than a couple times a day is problematic."
>
> Ayup. When the toilet gets flushed more than a couple times a day..it

> would start backing up. So I had to have it pumped. Now I religiously

> put the various bacteria cleaners down it and guess what..its cleaning

> up the system pretty well. Took a shower this morning, ran a load of
> clothes and

Ah ah ah! Caught in another lie, gummer. You said just a few days ago
you don't use the washing machine:

The dryer is gas, the washing machine doesnt get used. We go to the

laundromat to wash and bring em home to day.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.crafts.metalworking/Gr3TDdNoOrE/UqsIS4_fAgAJ
04/11/17

You always trip yourself up, gummer - always. That's what makes you
such a loser - such a *schmuck*.

[Rudy Canoza]

On 4/23/2017 5:03 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:15:59 -0700, You Already Know <y...@AF.com>
> wrote:

> Murder Exchange? That would be a bad thing! Violence! Not a good
> thing! Bad!

Ha ha ha! Now you're running in terror. You really are afraid this can
and will be used against you.

Too funny!

[Red Prepper]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:55:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
<gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ayup. Cliff died poorly by all accounts.

You shoving the giant slide rule up his ass sirely didn't help. Lol,
even TMT and his moms were high fiving each other over by there by
the Douchebags troll bridge when you did that. Then they remembered
why they were all meeting you at the bridge in the first place. Only
Curls made it out alive. Alive and well and living somewhere in
Argentina. Or maybe not.

[Gunner Asch]

(Grin)


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[Suburban War]

On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:15:24 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>

wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:08:24 -0500, Red Prepper <r...@red.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:55:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
>><gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Ayup. Cliff died poorly by all accounts.
>>
>>You shoving the giant slide rule up his ass sirely didn't help. Lol,
>>even TMT and his moms were high fiving each other over by there by
>>the Douchebags troll bridge when you did that. Then they remembered
>>why they were all meeting you at the bridge in the first place. Only
>>Curls made it out alive. Alive and well and living somewhere in
>>Argentina. Or maybe not.

I'm thinking that your laughable fantasies exist for same reason as
Wieber's - because your personal reality is profoundly unsatisfying,
disgusting, and hopeless. Earth to nutjobs: there's no amount of
daydreaming or high enough mountain of ramen that can make up for
earning a decent living and getting ahead.

>(Grin)

Can we take from your grin that your toilet didn't back up this
morning? Best not to push your luck with a second flush, right?

[Gary Chamberlain]

On 4/24/2017 7:08 PM, Red Prepper wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:55:14 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Ayup. Cliff died poorly by all accounts.
>
> You shoving the giant slide rule up his ass sirely didn't help.

gummer had nothing to do with Huprich's death.

[Gunner Asch]

Who??

[Gary Chamberlain]

On 4/25/2017 9:56 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:48:35 -0700, Gary Chamberlain
> <abc...@terrell.shitbags.con> wrote:
>
>> On 4/24/2017 7:08 PM, Red Prepper wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:55:14 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Ayup. Cliff died poorly by all accounts.
>>>
>>> You shoving the giant slide rule up his ass sirely didn't help.
>>
>> gummer had nothing to do with Huprich's death.
>
> Who??

You, Wieber. I've been calling you gummer for years, and you answer to
it. I can't remember if you ever threatened to have me killed for it or
not. Obviously I wasn't too worried about it.

[Red Prepper]

On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:55:16 -0700, Gary Chamberlain
<abc...@terrell.shitbags.con> wrote:
> >> gummer had nothing to do with Huprich's death.
> >
> > Who??

Hubris

[Good Soldier Schweik]

On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:55:16 -0700, Gary Chamberlain

<abc...@terrell.shitbags.con> wrote:

>On 4/25/2017 9:56 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:48:35 -0700, Gary Chamberlain
>> <abc...@terrell.shitbags.con> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/24/2017 7:08 PM, Red Prepper wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:55:14 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Ayup. Cliff died poorly by all accounts.
>>>>
>>>> You shoving the giant slide rule up his ass sirely didn't help.
>>>
>>> gummer had nothing to do with Huprich's death.
>>
>> Who??
>
>You, Wieber. I've been calling you gummer for years, and you answer to
>it. I can't remember if you ever threatened to have me killed for it or
>not. Obviously I wasn't too worried about it.

And that is the crux of the matter. Nobody is too worried about
anything that gunner says. Everyone knows that he is just a poor,
unemployed old fellow... with a stopped up toilet.

Can one worry about an old guy that when he has to take a crap carries
a pooper scooper and a doggy bag? Just think of it, the "deadly"
gunner. Armed with a little plastic shovel and a bag of shit wondering
the streets trying to find a garbage can.

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:55:16 -0700, Gary Chamberlain

<abc...@terrell.shitbags.con> wrote:

>On 4/25/2017 9:56 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:48:35 -0700, Gary Chamberlain
>> <abc...@terrell.shitbags.con> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/24/2017 7:08 PM, Red Prepper wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:55:14 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Ayup. Cliff died poorly by all accounts.
>>>>
>>>> You shoving the giant slide rule up his ass sirely didn't help.
>>>
>>> gummer had nothing to do with Huprich's death.
>>
>> Who??
>
>You, Wieber. I've been calling you gummer for years, and you answer to
>it. I can't remember if you ever threatened to have me killed for it or
>not. Obviously I wasn't too worried about it.

Who?

[Reflektor]

I wonder what he does with all the dog shit and piss produced by his
herd of two dozen. Where does it smell worse, inside or outside of his
mobile?


Did you catch this?

"I sit here with a pup in my lap, cigarette in hand and drinking a
Monster."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.survival/hFCNDUXAMcg/MXJiOtIbAgAJ

The idiot is actually bragging that he found something as harmful and
as big a waste of money as his smokes. And we know he's been sucking
down that crap for at least 8 years.

"What he seemed to have a handled on was smoking my cigarrettes, and
guzzling energy drinks like a speed freak when he wasn't downing
Mountain Dew or beating his dog."

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/msg/7ea5a4fb45355771

Where are all the outraged conservatives who believe that health care
leeches should take some responsibility for themselves? Probably too
busy fantasizing about bombing somebody.

[Gary Chamberlain]

That's precisely gummer's problem, although it's quite odd given what a
zero he is. Usually hubris is something exhibited by people who have
actually achieved something and then overestimate themselves. gummer
has never achieved anything except a squalid, poverty-stricken life.

[Gary Chamberlain]

On 4/25/2017 6:28 PM, Good Soldier Schweik wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:55:16 -0700, Gary Chamberlain
> <abc...@terrell.shitbags.con> wrote:
>
>> On 4/25/2017 9:56 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:48:35 -0700, Gary Chamberlain
>>> <abc...@terrell.shitbags.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/24/2017 7:08 PM, Red Prepper wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:55:14 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Ayup. Cliff died poorly by all accounts.
>>>>>
>>>>> You shoving the giant slide rule up his ass sirely didn't help.
>>>>
>>>> gummer had nothing to do with Huprich's death.
>>>
>>> Who??
>>
>> You, Wieber. I've been calling you gummer for years, and you answer to
>> it. I can't remember if you ever threatened to have me killed for it or
>> not. Obviously I wasn't too worried about it.
>
> And that is the crux of the matter. Nobody is too worried about
> anything that gunner says.

True, but especially not worried about the threats.

[Gary Chamberlain]

On 4/25/2017 9:04 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:55:16 -0700, Gary Chamberlain
> <abc...@terrell.shitbags.con> wrote:
>
>> On 4/25/2017 9:56 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:48:35 -0700, Gary Chamberlain
>>> <abc...@terrell.shitbags.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/24/2017 7:08 PM, Red Prepper wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:55:14 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Ayup. Cliff died poorly by all accounts.
>>>>>
>>>>> You shoving the giant slide rule up his ass sirely didn't help.
>>>>
>>>> gummer had nothing to do with Huprich's death.
>>>
>>> Who??
>>
>> You, Wieber. I've been calling you gummer for years, and you answer to
>> it. I can't remember if you ever threatened to have me killed for it or
>> not. Obviously I wasn't too worried about it.
>
> Who?

You, Wieber. See above.

Looks like no hour was spent earning $75 yesterday, and today appears to
be the same pattern of failure for you.

[Reflektor]

On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 10:48:24 -0700, Gary Chamberlain

<abc...@terrell.shitbags.con> wrote:

>On 4/25/2017 6:28 PM, Good Soldier Schweik wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:55:16 -0700, Gary Chamberlain
>> <abc...@terrell.shitbags.con> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/25/2017 9:56 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:48:35 -0700, Gary Chamberlain
>>>> <abc...@terrell.shitbags.con> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/24/2017 7:08 PM, Red Prepper wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:55:14 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ayup. Cliff died poorly by all accounts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You shoving the giant slide rule up his ass sirely didn't help.
>>>>>
>>>>> gummer had nothing to do with Huprich's death.
>>>>
>>>> Who??
>>>
>>> You, Wieber. I've been calling you gummer for years, and you answer to
>>> it. I can't remember if you ever threatened to have me killed for it or
>>> not. Obviously I wasn't too worried about it.
>>
>> And that is the crux of the matter. Nobody is too worried about
>> anything that gunner says.
>
>True, but especially not worried about the threats.

One wonders what's going on in Wieber's mind. He knows he's not
killing anyone, or having anyone killed. He also knows that he'll
continue to be ridiculed by the very people he said would be long
since dead. And yet he keeps making threats, sometimes very elaborate
ones, which can only make him look worse to any employer at a time
when he desperately needs a job.

Perhaps the Monster and the Dew are doing Wieber's thinking for him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPAP0jTCr9k

[Gary Chamberlain]

It's pretty obvious by now that Wieber isn't serious about obtaining
work. It's just more of the empty talk.