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Jesus HAS returned. Bible Evidence
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zeb...@windstream.net
Oct 2, 2020, 11:02:52 AM10/2/20
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Jesus HAS returned. Bible Evidence
Many are still waiting to see Jesus' return. He already has.
"Are you nuts?" No, consider the evidence yourself.
The Bible shows us what to look for at Jesus' return. Let's see.
First, the question. Mt 24:3.
-- Revised Standard
Matthew 24:3 As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to
him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will this be, and what will be
the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?"
So what "SIGN" shows Jesus coming? Notice:
-- Revised Standard
Matthew 24:6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that
you are not alarmed; for this must take place, but the end is not yet.
Yes, these are ordinary wars. We have them all the time. But then
Jesus' sign comes along with:
-- Revised Standard
Matthew 24:7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against
kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places:
These is not an ordinary war. This is a WORLD WAR. When you see a
world war, you see Jesus' return. The first world war was WWI in 1914.
Thus that is when Jesus' returned.
But wait, if Jesus returned then, why hasn't he removed the wicked,
etc? Because the Bible shows there would be a delay first:
-- American Standard
Psalms 110:2 Jehovah will send forth the rod of thy strength out of
Zion: Rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.
Yes, he will be ruling for a while with his enemies still around. But
wait. We don't see Jesus. And Rev 1:7 says he is coming with the
clouds and every eye will see him. Why can't we see him?
Because Jesus said humans will never see him again:
-- Revised Standard
John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world will see me no more, but
you will see me; because I live, you will live also.
A clue at Rev 1:7 is that he returns "WITH THE CLOUDS". Why not a
clear day? Because the clouds represent invisibility.
Remember when Jesus went back to Heaven he disappeared into the clouds
so no one could see him then? The Scripture as Acts 1:11 said he would
return "IN THE SAME WAY AS YOU SAW HIM GO INTO HEAVEN."
He went into Heaven by disappearing behind clouds.
-- Revised Standard
Acts 1:11 and said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into
heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come
in the same way as you saw him go into heaven."
Going into clouds, coming with clouds. Thus invisibly.
And for more evidence. Returning back to Mt 24:3, it says "what will
be the sign of your coming"?
Just notice the word "coming" here. It is translated from the Greek
word "parousia". which literally means, "being alongside", or
"presence". The normal Greek word for "coming" is "erkhomai" , but it
is not used here. A person's "coming" is at one particular time, a
person's "presence" can be over a long time.
Vine’s Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words (1981,
Vol. 1, pp. 208, 209) states: “PAROUSIA . . . denotes both an arrival
and a consequent presence"
Mt 24:37-39 also talks about Christ' return.
37 "As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming
(parousia) of the Son of Man.
38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking,
marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;
39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came
and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming
(parousia) of the Son of Man." (NIV)
Before the flood, people were doing ordinary things until the flood
came. Right before Jesus coming, people would be doing ordinary
things until Jesus 'floods' the wicked. Also notice Acts 13:34,
"As for the fact that He raised Him up from the dead, no longer to
return to decay,"
Thus Jesus will not be bodily seen. Or as the Scripture says:
-- New American with Apocrypha
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for
the sake of the un righteous, that he might lead you to God. Put to
death in the flesh, he was brought to life in the spirit.
Thus, based on the prophecies in the Bible, Jesus started his
"presence" (parousia) in 1914 and has been ruling in the midst of his
enemies. Soon he will turn in attention to his enemies and remove
them. Then God's original plan to have perfect humans on a garden-like
earth can see fulfillment. (Genesis, chapters 1 and 2) As Isa wrote
at Isa 55:11,
"so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me
empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for
which I sent it." (NIV)
James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Many are still waiting to see Jesus' return. He already has.
"Are you nuts?" No, consider the evidence yourself.
The Bible shows us what to look for at Jesus' return. Let's see.
First, the question. Mt 24:3.
-- Revised Standard
Matthew 24:3 As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to
him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will this be, and what will be
the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?"
So what "SIGN" shows Jesus coming? Notice:
-- Revised Standard
Matthew 24:6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that
you are not alarmed; for this must take place, but the end is not yet.
Yes, these are ordinary wars. We have them all the time. But then
Jesus' sign comes along with:
-- Revised Standard
Matthew 24:7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against
kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places:
These is not an ordinary war. This is a WORLD WAR. When you see a
world war, you see Jesus' return. The first world war was WWI in 1914.
Thus that is when Jesus' returned.
But wait, if Jesus returned then, why hasn't he removed the wicked,
etc? Because the Bible shows there would be a delay first:
-- American Standard
Psalms 110:2 Jehovah will send forth the rod of thy strength out of
Zion: Rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.
Yes, he will be ruling for a while with his enemies still around. But
wait. We don't see Jesus. And Rev 1:7 says he is coming with the
clouds and every eye will see him. Why can't we see him?
Because Jesus said humans will never see him again:
-- Revised Standard
John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world will see me no more, but
you will see me; because I live, you will live also.
A clue at Rev 1:7 is that he returns "WITH THE CLOUDS". Why not a
clear day? Because the clouds represent invisibility.
Remember when Jesus went back to Heaven he disappeared into the clouds
so no one could see him then? The Scripture as Acts 1:11 said he would
return "IN THE SAME WAY AS YOU SAW HIM GO INTO HEAVEN."
He went into Heaven by disappearing behind clouds.
-- Revised Standard
Acts 1:11 and said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into
heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come
in the same way as you saw him go into heaven."
Going into clouds, coming with clouds. Thus invisibly.
And for more evidence. Returning back to Mt 24:3, it says "what will
be the sign of your coming"?
Just notice the word "coming" here. It is translated from the Greek
word "parousia". which literally means, "being alongside", or
"presence". The normal Greek word for "coming" is "erkhomai" , but it
is not used here. A person's "coming" is at one particular time, a
person's "presence" can be over a long time.
Vine’s Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words (1981,
Vol. 1, pp. 208, 209) states: “PAROUSIA . . . denotes both an arrival
and a consequent presence"
Mt 24:37-39 also talks about Christ' return.
37 "As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming
(parousia) of the Son of Man.
38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking,
marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;
39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came
and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming
(parousia) of the Son of Man." (NIV)
Before the flood, people were doing ordinary things until the flood
came. Right before Jesus coming, people would be doing ordinary
things until Jesus 'floods' the wicked. Also notice Acts 13:34,
"As for the fact that He raised Him up from the dead, no longer to
return to decay,"
Thus Jesus will not be bodily seen. Or as the Scripture says:
-- New American with Apocrypha
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for
the sake of the un righteous, that he might lead you to God. Put to
death in the flesh, he was brought to life in the spirit.
Thus, based on the prophecies in the Bible, Jesus started his
"presence" (parousia) in 1914 and has been ruling in the midst of his
enemies. Soon he will turn in attention to his enemies and remove
them. Then God's original plan to have perfect humans on a garden-like
earth can see fulfillment. (Genesis, chapters 1 and 2) As Isa wrote
at Isa 55:11,
"so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me
empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for
which I sent it." (NIV)
James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Oct 2, 2020, 11:35:00 AM10/2/20
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James (aka zebra2ATwindstreamDOTnet) wrote:
> Jesus HAS returned.
It is described in the Bible that all, including the raised dead Roman
soldiers, who pierced Him, will see Him when He returns.
> Bible Evidence
Indeed, according to what is written in the Bible, LORD Jesus Himself
will be the physical evidence of His own return:
"'Look, He is coming with the clouds,' and 'every eye will see Him,
even those who pierced Him'; and all peoples on Earth 'will mourn
because of Him.' So shall it be! Amen." (Revelation 1:7)
> Many are still waiting to see Jesus' return.
Those who aren't where (Luke 17:37) we need to be for His return
aren't ready for His return though they may claim that they're
waiting.
Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
and hope you, James, also have a healthy appetite too.
So how are you ?
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
> Jesus HAS returned.
It is described in the Bible that all, including the raised dead Roman
soldiers, who pierced Him, will see Him when He returns.
> Bible Evidence
Indeed, according to what is written in the Bible, LORD Jesus Himself
will be the physical evidence of His own return:
"'Look, He is coming with the clouds,' and 'every eye will see Him,
even those who pierced Him'; and all peoples on Earth 'will mourn
because of Him.' So shall it be! Amen." (Revelation 1:7)
> Many are still waiting to see Jesus' return.
aren't ready for His return though they may claim that they're
waiting.
Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
and hope you, James, also have a healthy appetite too.
So how are you ?
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
servant
Oct 2, 2020, 8:10:03 PM10/2/20
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>Jesus HAS returned. Bible Evidence
>
> Many are still waiting to see Jesus' return. He already has.
>"Are you nuts?" No, consider the evidence yourself.
illustrates two flaws in the approach to scripture. Firsst we need to set
the stage for the entire thing. The history
evidence from
scripture.
Mr. russel, the first jw pope, flirted with millerism in the last half of
the 19th century.. That group was in the habit of making predictions of
the 2nd coming and setting dates for it. All were flops, false prophets
one and all.
Mr. russel also when he started his own group began to set dates. This was
a selling point for his group to twist the arms of people to get with it
and join up before the date arrived.
Before his death early in the 20th century he set two dates, you guessed
it, no 2nd coming.
But wait, he had a trump card up his sleeve. The last of the millerite
failures came up with a new never never seen before in church history
excuse. The 2nd coming happened as predicted, Christ just had an invisible
2nd coming.
Yup, mr. russel well aware of that lame excuse adopted it to explain his
failure, a sure fire false prophet
>The Bible shows us what to look for at Jesus' return.
setting in scripture.
Just a minute, we need to set the stage here also. There are two
major ways to approach scripture.
The first considers what flows from taking it in whole. The unbroken 2000
year christian witness is taken into consideration also as a guide from
those who have gone before..
The second way first has someone coming up with an individual private
theory. Scripture is searched to see if some bits here and there might
with a push be used to contain the theory after the fact. The reader can
decide which comes up here, and so it begins:
>Let's see.
>First, the question. Mt 24:3.
>
>Matthew 24:3 As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to
>him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will this be, and what will be
>the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?"
>
>So what "SIGN" shows Jesus coming? Notice:
>him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will this be, and what will be
>the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?"
>
>So what "SIGN" shows Jesus coming? Notice:
>Matthew 24:6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that
>you are not alarmed; for this must take place, but the end is not yet.
>Yes, these are ordinary wars. We have them all the time. But then
>Jesus' sign comes along with:
>
>you are not alarmed; for this must take place, but the end is not yet.
>Yes, these are ordinary wars. We have them all the time. But then
>Jesus' sign comes along with:
>
>Matthew 24:7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against
>kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places:
>These is not an ordinary war. This is a WORLD WAR. When you see a
>world war, you see Jesus' return. The first world war was WWI in 1914.
>Thus that is when Jesus' returned.
I feel another circular logic scheme coming here.
>kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places:
>These is not an ordinary war. This is a WORLD WAR. When you see a
>world war, you see Jesus' return. The first world war was WWI in 1914.
>Thus that is when Jesus' returned.
Smile, let's stop there. Just as with war "famines and earthquakes" have
been a constant in human history. Was there a spike in them in the years
of the war? In short, no.
So why did the first war matter, mr. russel's last failed prediction before
his death was for 1914, the start
of the war.
It was a failure on the Matt. above, only 1 of 3 elements was present.
After the plain meaning of his prediction failed, the millerite excuse was
used, handy, no?
Looking at another theory given us today in part to support the excuse:
>We don't see Jesus. And Rev 1:7 says he is coming with the
>clouds and every eye will see him. Why can't we see him?
>
>Because Jesus said humans will never see him again:
>
>John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world will see me no more, but
>you will see me; because I live, you will live also.
Wait, did my eyess just decieve me? First I will go away and not bee seen,
>you will see me; because I live, you will live also.
then you will see me.
>A clue at Rev 1:7 is that he returns "WITH THE CLOUDS". Why not a
>clear day? Because the clouds represent invisibility.
Do we have a case of circular false logic being suggested?
>
>Remember when Jesus went back to Heaven he disappeared into the clouds
>so no one could see him then? The Scripture as Acts 1:11 said he would
>return "IN THE SAME WAY AS YOU SAW HIM GO INTO HEAVEN."
>He went into Heaven by disappearing behind clouds.
>
>Remember when Jesus went back to Heaven he disappeared into the clouds
>so no one could see him then? The Scripture as Acts 1:11 said he would
>return "IN THE SAME WAY AS YOU SAW HIM GO INTO HEAVEN."
>He went into Heaven by disappearing behind clouds.
>
>Acts 1:11 and said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into
>heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come
>in the same way as you saw him go into heaven."
>
>Going into clouds, coming with clouds. Thus invisibly.
Yup, the false circular logic was just presented.
>heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come
>in the same way as you saw him go into heaven."
>
>Going into clouds, coming with clouds. Thus invisibly.
Correction, there is an error already, the relevant verse:
1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken
up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
"A cloud" not "clouds", and He was for some time fully visible until
entering the cloud.
Then another source of error we find in scripture:
4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the
voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in
Christ shall rise first:
Do we see any retracing the visible ascent to stand on earth yet?
4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with
them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be
with the Lord.
No clouds related to being invisible as "hidden", just a location in the
sky.
He will be seen and be with Christ by those meeting Him in the clouds is
the plain reading and meaning, no invisible jw vatican invisible bit fits
there.
No retracing the ascention from earth, no visible descent to stand on earth
after leaveing a single cloud; visible all the time during the descent as,
reversing the account in Accts.
nope it ain't there.
Here we clearly have an attempt to fit a false prophet millerite/jw vatican
theory, an excuse, back into scripture which does not logically contain it.
Not one word in the previous 1914 years did someone teach the jw vatican
theory flows from the text. Not one word at all, no not one to support it
for any reason. at any time. No false prophet had to be excused, no?
Same text, no need to invent a theory of excused failure is the clear
message from an unbroken christian witness. Nope, it just ain't gonna fit
the jw vatican claims of the nature of the events of asent and desent, is
refuted by scripture itself, not one "hidden/invisible" bit, no not one
single one. that has not after the fact been inserted as circular logic.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Oct 2, 2020, 8:32:01 PM10/2/20
to
An eternally condemned & ever more cursed nymshifter (aka servant of
satan) wrote:
>
> Andy andy, you made the challenge to non-believers
No.
I am not the Author of "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by
the Holy Spirit" (1 Corinthians 12:3)
> , it just done don''t
> work; now done it?
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/Ym8TcuRVTkY/xR4zDAEOBwAJ
Your calling the Holy Spirit an "it" is your continuing to blaspheme
against Him.
> So fess up and stop making this face loosing (sic) claim for we believers:
You, who are eternally condemned by GOD, cannot trust (John 3:16) Him.
Those who don't trust GOD, don't really believe in their heart (Romans
10:9) that GOD raised Jesus Christ up from the dead.
Bottom line: You, who are eternally condemned, cannot be believers.
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/Ym8TcuRVTkY/sftIKtncAwAJ
See also:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/Fh-E9VvbJ64/9zvd_bkCBwAJ
**and**
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ssG8UNHiHB4/zKvDQUAsAQAJ
> 5 second youtube test of this claim.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft3nBlpcv-I
Actually, instead of a test of the proof, the video (especially now
with what is in its comment section) and your vainly** citing it
further adds to the proof :-)
** "those who cite the above YouTube video as a refutation of this
scientific proof unwittingly demonstrate that they are eternally
condemned (Mark 3:29) and ever more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD as
evident by their cognitive deficits"
** Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/MfJonmgXq5U/pLim1KV1AgAJ
Laus DEO !
> It takes only one example to refute the claim.
Those who comprehend the proof are also able to acknowledge that it is
irrefutable simply because the Holy Spirit not only supports this
proof but allows a sound mind to comprehend it.
You will never comprehend this because you really are eternally
condemned.
The reason for responding here is for the benefit of believers (John
3:16) who are reading this.
+++
Within the thread titled "><> Being wonderfully hungry on 01/16/18
..."
Source:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/aYg5AnsrNn0
... an eternally condemned & ever more cursed nymshifter (aka woeful
wonder) asked:
> Does this mean the 13 starving children rescued must be nearly prfect (sic) and
> healthy?
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/aYg5AnsrNn0/vnVXV9wHAgAJ
No.
Children (and adults) who say they're "starving" (Genesis 25:32)
instead of saying they're "wonderfully hungry" (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) are neither perfect (Matthew 5:48) nor
healthy (John 5:14).
Moreover, whoever calls themselves "Wonderful" (Isaiah 9:6), as you've
done here, also suffers from the delusion that they're GOD on top of
the pre-existing "hunger is starvation" (2 Kings 6:29) delusion (2
Thessalonians 2:11) of the eternally condemned (Mark 3:29).
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that
GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned, more than ever by expanding His curse to also include your
**extended** household more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO !
+++
Within the thread titled > Being wonderfully hungry on 02/05/19 ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mWz5zjw6Cu8/350TfF7qDgAJ
... eternally condemned nymshifter (aka servant of satan) wrote:
> This is the 1st in a series outlining the origin and twists and turns of
> distorted logic of the 2 lb. (sic) diet.
Actually, the 2PD-OMER Approach is http://HeartMDPhD.com/NotDiet
> In the late 90's Mr. Chung gained 20 pounds. This was likely due to the
> medication he was being perscribed (sic) known to promote weight gain.
LIE.
I have no medical history of taking any prescribed medications.
Source:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
> He saw a movie where mountain climbers were said to consume 2 lb.s (sic)
> of food. This was the start of his mistake.
LIE.
The Everest climbers were receiving 10 lbs of food per week which is
actually 1.43 lbs per day.
Source:
2007 "Be Hungry" book (ISBN: 978-0-595-45641-3), page 18.
> He reasoned if they ate 2 lb.s (sic) and had high physical activity
> he could lose the 20 lb. (sic) weight gain by doing the same.
LIE.
My physical activity was already high climbing the stairs of the
1000-bed Grady Memorial Hospital in Atlanta as a medical resident
physician instead of taking the elevators **and** I was not interested
in losing weight but rather was interested in knowing if this would be
safe for my obese patients. The reasoning here is that if it doesn't
kill me to decrease my intake from 3-4 lbs per day to 2 lbs per day,
it won't kill my obese patients who were eating 8-12 lbs per day to do
likewise.
Source:
2007 "Be Hungry" book (ISBN: 978-0-595-45641-3), page 18.
3 LIEs in a row.
You have just struck out and again have unwittingly demonstrated that
there is no truth in you, who are eternally condemned for blaspheming
(Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth.
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger for food, I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14)
that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned more than ever increasing His curse upon you by extending it
to your extended family, so that all others reading this will benefit
by learning from your example to not blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against the
Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO !
+++
Within the thread titled <> Being wonderfully hungry on 02/06/19 ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/hX8JdCxf8HA/tA_s4eq0GgAJ
... an eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) nymshifter (aka servant of
satan), ever more cursed (Jer 17:5) by GOD, vainly wrote:
> In the first part we presented the origin and name for the diet.
> The original name was 2 lb. (sic) diet.
LIE.
The original name as codified in 2007 in the published book, "Be
Hungry" (ISBN: 978-0-595-45641-3), which remains in print and
available from AmazonDotCom, is the 2PD-OMER Approach.
Source:
2007 "Be Hungry" book (ISBN: 978-0-595-45641-3), page 18.
> Mr. Chung ...
LIE x2.
The true title for http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew is "Doctor" simply
because he has **both** an M.D. and a Ph.D. degree.
Source:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
"This will be forever true." -- Holy Spirit (see John 3:16)
Laus DEO !
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_
> ... had misunderstood basic nutritional science in choosing 2 lbs. (sic)
> as the normal calorie intake, he did not consider it was 2 lb.s (sic) of
> dehydrated foods.
LIE.
"The Everest climbers were receiving 10 lbs of food per week which is
actually 1.43 lbs per day."
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mWz5zjw6Cu8/350TfF7qDgAJ
This fact allows possible rehydration with 0.57 lbs of water as
needed.
3+ LIEs in a row.
You have, again, struck out and have, yet again, unwittingly
demonstrated that there is no truth in you, who are eternally
condemned for blaspheming (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, Who is
the Spirit of Truth.
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger for food, I again pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are
eternally condemned more than ever increasing His curse upon you by
extending this curse to your extended family **and** all who know you,
causing them each to die in terrible agony, one by one, so that all
others reading this will benefit by learning from your example to not
blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO !
+++
Within the thread titled <> Being wonderfully hungry on 02/06/19 ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/hX8JdCxf8HA/rEIHube5GgAJ
... eternally condemned nymshifter (aka servant of satan), ever more
cursed by GOD, vainly wrote in the author line:
(My name is) curious
LIE x 2
Your name is not curious...
... nor are you curious.
>>> In the first part we presented the origin and name for the diet.
LIE x 2
There is only one of you, multiple nyms notwithstanding, which means
that the use of "we" here is a lie of a pathological liar.
Moreover, what is associated with being wonderfully hungry (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) is the 2PD-OMER Approach which is, in
fact, http://HeartMDPhD.com/NotDiet
"All who lie about the 2PD-OMER Approach blaspheme against Me. For I
am He Who inspired HeartDoc Andrew to author it." -- Holy Spirit (see
Mark 3:29 and Exodus 16:16 and Revelation 6:6)
Laus Deo !
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_
You have, again, struck out and have, yet again, unwittingly
demonstrated that there is no truth in you, who are eternally
condemned for blaspheming (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, Who is
the Spirit of Truth.
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger for food, I again pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are
eternally condemned more than ever increasing His curse upon you by
extending this curse to your extended family **and** all who know you,
causing them each to die in terrible agony, one by one, so that all
others reading this will benefit by learning from your example to not
blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO !
+++
Within the thread titled ><> Being wonderfully hungry on 02/07/19 ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Junjan3PPFc/UQAMVyT3GgAJ
... eternally condemned nymshifter (aka servant of satan), ever more
cursed by GOD, again vainly wrote in the author line:
(My name is) curious
LIE x 2
Your name is not curious...
... nor are you curious.
> As mentioned in part 2, Mr. Chung ...
LIE x 2
The true title for http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew is "Doctor" simply
because he has **both** an M.D. and a Ph.D. degree.
Source:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
"This will be forever true." -- Holy Spirit (see John 3:16)
Laus DEO !
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_
> mistakenly thught (sic) the biblical omer was a
> measure of weight,ie. 2 pounds.
LIE
The Exodus 16:16 omer is, in fact, a weight measure.
"Take a jar, and put an omer of manna in it, and place it before the
LORD to be kept throughout your generations." (Exodus 16:33)
If the Exodus 16:16 omer were a volume measure, Exodus 16:33 would
have been written as "Fill an omer jar with manna and place it before
the LORD to be kept throughout your generations."
"A Biblical omer of manna weighs 2 pounds." -- Holy Spirit (see Exodus
16:16 and Exodus 16:33 and Revelation 6:6)
"An extra-Biblical omer volume measure of manna can weigh 2 pounds if
there's no settling." -- Holy Spirit (see Exodus 16:16 and Revelation
6:6 and Exodus 16:31)
Just as an ounce can be either a weight or a volume measure, so too
the omer (Biblical versus extra-Biblical). That both unit measures
start with the letter "o" did not happen by chance (Proverbs 16:33)
just as the matching of Exodus 16:33 with Proverbs 16:33 chapter &
verse numbers did not happen by chance nor that the Exodus 16 verses
bookend the 32nd verse reminding us that at Exodus 16:32, Moses really
cared more about the right amount (Revelation 6:6) of daily manna
being his legacy to the nation of Israel instead of it's composition
so much so that he lied about the LORD telling him to command his
brother, Aaron, to place a jar of an omer of manna in the Ark (a jar
that subsequently went missing from later inventories of Ark contents
because the manna became riddled with maggots proving that Moses lied
thereby explaining why his siblings later rebelled against him).
Just as cereals settle making volume measures inaccurate so that
weight measures are used on their boxes with the warning that the
boxes do not appear full because settling has occurred, so too manna,
which is likened to wafers (Exodus 16:31) settle so that the Exodus
16:16 omer measure is, in fact, a weight measure in accord with what
is written at Exodus 16:33.
Bottom line:
3+ LIEs in a row.
You have, again, struck out and have, yet again, unwittingly
demonstrated that there is no truth in you, who are eternally
condemned for blaspheming (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, Who is
the Spirit of Truth.
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger for food, I again pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are
eternally condemned more than ever increasing His curse upon you by
extending this curse to your extended family **and** all who know you,
causing them each to die in terrible agony, one by one, so that all
others reading this will benefit by learning from your example to not
blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO !
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_
+++
Within the thread titled ><> Being wonderfully hungry on 02/09/19 ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/LTOqk8IheKA/0kAF2EmxBAAJ
... an eternally condemned nymshifter (aka servant of satan), ever
more cursed by GOD, vainly wrote in the author line:
(My name is) curious
LIE x 2
Your name is not curious...
... nor are you curious.
> In the previous 3 parts we saw how a 20 lb. (sic) overweight Mr. Chung was
> confused about nutritional info he encountered.
LIE x 3
The true title for http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew is "Doctor" simply
because he has **both** an M.D. and a Ph.D. degree.
Source:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
"This will be forever true." -- Holy Spirit (see John 3:16)
Laus DEO !
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_
"The Everest climbers were receiving 10 lbs of food per week which is
actually 1.43 lbs per day."
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mWz5zjw6Cu8/350TfF7qDgAJ
This fact allows possible rehydration with 0.57 lbs of water as
needed.
> His lack of knowledge led him to think 2 lb.s (sic) of food per day was an ideal
> diet for a physically active person.
LIE.
2 lbs is by definition a quantity (i.e. a weight measure), which is
logically http://HeartMDPhD.com/NotDiet else 0 lbs would also be a
diet instead of what it really is, which is fasting.
> He was also mistaken to think the biblical omer was a measure of weight, 2
> lb.s. (sic) Itt (sic) was not, instead like a quart it measured volume, in this it was
> used for grain of around some 7 pounds.
LIE x 2
Manna is **not** grain according to its description as given at Exodus
16:31 where it is likened to wafers made with honey (i.e. processed
food that is more like dessert instead of raw grain)
Moreover, the Exodus 16:16 omer is, in fact, a weight measure.
"Take a jar, and put an omer of manna in it, and place it before the
LORD to be kept throughout your generations." (Exodus 16:33)
If the Exodus 16:16 omer were a volume measure, Exodus 16:33 would
have been written as "Fill an omer jar with manna and place it before
the LORD to be kept throughout your generations."
"A Biblical omer of manna weighs 2 pounds." -- Holy Spirit (see Exodus
16:16 and Exodus 16:33 and Revelation 6:6)
"An extra-Biblical omer volume measure of manna can weigh 2 pounds if
there's no settling." -- Holy Spirit (see Exodus 16:16 and Revelation
6:6 and Exodus 16:31)
Just as an ounce can be either a weight or a volume measure, so too
the omer (Biblical versus extra-Biblical). That both unit measures
start with the letter "o" did not happen by chance (Proverbs 16:33)
just as the matching of Exodus 16:33 with Proverbs 16:33 chapter &
verse numbers did not happen by chance nor that the Exodus 16 verses
bookend the 32nd verse reminding us that at Exodus 16:32, Moses really
cared more about the right amount (Revelation 6:6) of daily manna
being his legacy to the nation of Israel instead of it's composition
so much so that he lied about the LORD telling him to command his
brother, Aaron, to place a jar of an omer of manna in the Ark (a jar
that subsequently went missing from later inventories of Ark contents
because the manna became riddled with maggots proving that Moses lied
thereby explaining why his siblings later rebelled against him).
Just as cereals settle making volume measures inaccurate so that
weight measures are used on their boxes with the warning that the
boxes do not appear full because settling has occurred, so too manna,
which is again likened to wafers (Exodus 16:31) settle so that the
Exodus 16:16 omer measure is, in fact, a weight measure in accord with
what is written at Exodus 16:33.
Bottom line:
3+ LIEs in a row by what is clearly a pathological liar.
You have, again, struck out and have, yet again, unwittingly
demonstrated that there is no truth in you, who are eternally
condemned for blaspheming (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, Who is
the Spirit of Truth.
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger for food, I again pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are
eternally condemned more than ever increasing His curse upon you by
extending this curse to your extended family **and** all who know you,
causing them each to die in terrible agony, one by one, so that all
others reading this will benefit by learning from your example to not
blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO !
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_
+++
Within the thread titled **Exposing the "hunger is starvation"
(Genesis 25:32) delusion (2 Thessalonians 2:11) of the eternally
condemned on 01/01/18 ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/dDW90vO_2LE
... an eternally condemned & ever more cursed nymshifter (aka woeful
wonder) asked on 01/15/18:
> Dr. chung, would you define "Schizoaffective Disorder" for us and provide
> some example symptoms?
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/dDW90vO_2LE/GdUA8Ed9AAAJ
"Schizoaffective disorder is a mental disorder in which a person
experiences a combination of schizophrenia symptoms, such as
hallucinations or delusions, and mood disorder symptoms, such as
depression or mania."
Source:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/schizoaffective-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20354504
The key "example symptom" relevant here in your case would be your
"having false, fixed beliefs, despite evidence to the contrary"
specifically being the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis 25:32)
false&fixed belief (delusion prophesied at 2 Thessalonians 2:11) being
vanquished for other readers at:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/dDW90vO_2LE/XXLJsNBdAAAJ
The reason for the disorder is GOD cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you to have
the mental-illness-causing http://bit.ly/HeartVAT which is a
consequence of overeating (eating more than 32 oz/day of food
according to what's written at Revelation 6:6) which is the deadly
(Proverb 23:2) Adam&Eve sin (Hebrews 12:1) of gluttony.
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that
GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned, more than ever by expanding His curse to also include your
**extended** household more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO !
Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.
Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html
Again, this is done ...
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://bit.ly/HeartVAT
from around the heart
satan) wrote:
>
> Andy andy, you made the challenge to non-believers
No.
I am not the Author of "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by
the Holy Spirit" (1 Corinthians 12:3)
> , it just done don''t
> work; now done it?
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/Ym8TcuRVTkY/xR4zDAEOBwAJ
Your calling the Holy Spirit an "it" is your continuing to blaspheme
against Him.
> So fess up and stop making this face loosing (sic) claim for we believers:
You, who are eternally condemned by GOD, cannot trust (John 3:16) Him.
Those who don't trust GOD, don't really believe in their heart (Romans
10:9) that GOD raised Jesus Christ up from the dead.
Bottom line: You, who are eternally condemned, cannot be believers.
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/Ym8TcuRVTkY/sftIKtncAwAJ
See also:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/Fh-E9VvbJ64/9zvd_bkCBwAJ
**and**
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ssG8UNHiHB4/zKvDQUAsAQAJ
> 5 second youtube test of this claim.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft3nBlpcv-I
Actually, instead of a test of the proof, the video (especially now
with what is in its comment section) and your vainly** citing it
further adds to the proof :-)
** "those who cite the above YouTube video as a refutation of this
scientific proof unwittingly demonstrate that they are eternally
condemned (Mark 3:29) and ever more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD as
evident by their cognitive deficits"
** Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/MfJonmgXq5U/pLim1KV1AgAJ
Laus DEO !
> It takes only one example to refute the claim.
Those who comprehend the proof are also able to acknowledge that it is
irrefutable simply because the Holy Spirit not only supports this
proof but allows a sound mind to comprehend it.
You will never comprehend this because you really are eternally
condemned.
The reason for responding here is for the benefit of believers (John
3:16) who are reading this.
+++
Within the thread titled "><> Being wonderfully hungry on 01/16/18
..."
Source:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/aYg5AnsrNn0
... an eternally condemned & ever more cursed nymshifter (aka woeful
wonder) asked:
> Does this mean the 13 starving children rescued must be nearly prfect (sic) and
> healthy?
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/aYg5AnsrNn0/vnVXV9wHAgAJ
No.
Children (and adults) who say they're "starving" (Genesis 25:32)
instead of saying they're "wonderfully hungry" (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) are neither perfect (Matthew 5:48) nor
healthy (John 5:14).
Moreover, whoever calls themselves "Wonderful" (Isaiah 9:6), as you've
done here, also suffers from the delusion that they're GOD on top of
the pre-existing "hunger is starvation" (2 Kings 6:29) delusion (2
Thessalonians 2:11) of the eternally condemned (Mark 3:29).
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that
GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned, more than ever by expanding His curse to also include your
**extended** household more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO !
+++
Within the thread titled > Being wonderfully hungry on 02/05/19 ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mWz5zjw6Cu8/350TfF7qDgAJ
... eternally condemned nymshifter (aka servant of satan) wrote:
> This is the 1st in a series outlining the origin and twists and turns of
> distorted logic of the 2 lb. (sic) diet.
Actually, the 2PD-OMER Approach is http://HeartMDPhD.com/NotDiet
> In the late 90's Mr. Chung gained 20 pounds. This was likely due to the
> medication he was being perscribed (sic) known to promote weight gain.
LIE.
I have no medical history of taking any prescribed medications.
Source:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
> He saw a movie where mountain climbers were said to consume 2 lb.s (sic)
> of food. This was the start of his mistake.
LIE.
The Everest climbers were receiving 10 lbs of food per week which is
actually 1.43 lbs per day.
Source:
2007 "Be Hungry" book (ISBN: 978-0-595-45641-3), page 18.
> He reasoned if they ate 2 lb.s (sic) and had high physical activity
> he could lose the 20 lb. (sic) weight gain by doing the same.
LIE.
My physical activity was already high climbing the stairs of the
1000-bed Grady Memorial Hospital in Atlanta as a medical resident
physician instead of taking the elevators **and** I was not interested
in losing weight but rather was interested in knowing if this would be
safe for my obese patients. The reasoning here is that if it doesn't
kill me to decrease my intake from 3-4 lbs per day to 2 lbs per day,
it won't kill my obese patients who were eating 8-12 lbs per day to do
likewise.
Source:
2007 "Be Hungry" book (ISBN: 978-0-595-45641-3), page 18.
3 LIEs in a row.
You have just struck out and again have unwittingly demonstrated that
there is no truth in you, who are eternally condemned for blaspheming
(Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth.
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger for food, I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14)
that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned more than ever increasing His curse upon you by extending it
to your extended family, so that all others reading this will benefit
by learning from your example to not blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against the
Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO !
+++
Within the thread titled <> Being wonderfully hungry on 02/06/19 ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/hX8JdCxf8HA/tA_s4eq0GgAJ
... an eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) nymshifter (aka servant of
satan), ever more cursed (Jer 17:5) by GOD, vainly wrote:
> In the first part we presented the origin and name for the diet.
> The original name was 2 lb. (sic) diet.
LIE.
The original name as codified in 2007 in the published book, "Be
Hungry" (ISBN: 978-0-595-45641-3), which remains in print and
available from AmazonDotCom, is the 2PD-OMER Approach.
Source:
2007 "Be Hungry" book (ISBN: 978-0-595-45641-3), page 18.
> Mr. Chung ...
LIE x2.
The true title for http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew is "Doctor" simply
because he has **both** an M.D. and a Ph.D. degree.
Source:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
"This will be forever true." -- Holy Spirit (see John 3:16)
Laus DEO !
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_
> ... had misunderstood basic nutritional science in choosing 2 lbs. (sic)
> as the normal calorie intake, he did not consider it was 2 lb.s (sic) of
> dehydrated foods.
LIE.
"The Everest climbers were receiving 10 lbs of food per week which is
actually 1.43 lbs per day."
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mWz5zjw6Cu8/350TfF7qDgAJ
This fact allows possible rehydration with 0.57 lbs of water as
needed.
3+ LIEs in a row.
You have, again, struck out and have, yet again, unwittingly
demonstrated that there is no truth in you, who are eternally
condemned for blaspheming (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, Who is
the Spirit of Truth.
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger for food, I again pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are
eternally condemned more than ever increasing His curse upon you by
extending this curse to your extended family **and** all who know you,
causing them each to die in terrible agony, one by one, so that all
others reading this will benefit by learning from your example to not
blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO !
+++
Within the thread titled <> Being wonderfully hungry on 02/06/19 ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/hX8JdCxf8HA/rEIHube5GgAJ
... eternally condemned nymshifter (aka servant of satan), ever more
cursed by GOD, vainly wrote in the author line:
(My name is) curious
LIE x 2
Your name is not curious...
... nor are you curious.
>>> In the first part we presented the origin and name for the diet.
LIE x 2
There is only one of you, multiple nyms notwithstanding, which means
that the use of "we" here is a lie of a pathological liar.
Moreover, what is associated with being wonderfully hungry (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) is the 2PD-OMER Approach which is, in
fact, http://HeartMDPhD.com/NotDiet
"All who lie about the 2PD-OMER Approach blaspheme against Me. For I
am He Who inspired HeartDoc Andrew to author it." -- Holy Spirit (see
Mark 3:29 and Exodus 16:16 and Revelation 6:6)
Laus Deo !
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_
You have, again, struck out and have, yet again, unwittingly
demonstrated that there is no truth in you, who are eternally
condemned for blaspheming (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, Who is
the Spirit of Truth.
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger for food, I again pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are
eternally condemned more than ever increasing His curse upon you by
extending this curse to your extended family **and** all who know you,
causing them each to die in terrible agony, one by one, so that all
others reading this will benefit by learning from your example to not
blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO !
+++
Within the thread titled ><> Being wonderfully hungry on 02/07/19 ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Junjan3PPFc/UQAMVyT3GgAJ
... eternally condemned nymshifter (aka servant of satan), ever more
cursed by GOD, again vainly wrote in the author line:
(My name is) curious
LIE x 2
Your name is not curious...
... nor are you curious.
> As mentioned in part 2, Mr. Chung ...
LIE x 2
The true title for http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew is "Doctor" simply
because he has **both** an M.D. and a Ph.D. degree.
Source:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
"This will be forever true." -- Holy Spirit (see John 3:16)
Laus DEO !
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_
> mistakenly thught (sic) the biblical omer was a
> measure of weight,ie. 2 pounds.
LIE
The Exodus 16:16 omer is, in fact, a weight measure.
"Take a jar, and put an omer of manna in it, and place it before the
LORD to be kept throughout your generations." (Exodus 16:33)
If the Exodus 16:16 omer were a volume measure, Exodus 16:33 would
have been written as "Fill an omer jar with manna and place it before
the LORD to be kept throughout your generations."
"A Biblical omer of manna weighs 2 pounds." -- Holy Spirit (see Exodus
16:16 and Exodus 16:33 and Revelation 6:6)
"An extra-Biblical omer volume measure of manna can weigh 2 pounds if
there's no settling." -- Holy Spirit (see Exodus 16:16 and Revelation
6:6 and Exodus 16:31)
Just as an ounce can be either a weight or a volume measure, so too
the omer (Biblical versus extra-Biblical). That both unit measures
start with the letter "o" did not happen by chance (Proverbs 16:33)
just as the matching of Exodus 16:33 with Proverbs 16:33 chapter &
verse numbers did not happen by chance nor that the Exodus 16 verses
bookend the 32nd verse reminding us that at Exodus 16:32, Moses really
cared more about the right amount (Revelation 6:6) of daily manna
being his legacy to the nation of Israel instead of it's composition
so much so that he lied about the LORD telling him to command his
brother, Aaron, to place a jar of an omer of manna in the Ark (a jar
that subsequently went missing from later inventories of Ark contents
because the manna became riddled with maggots proving that Moses lied
thereby explaining why his siblings later rebelled against him).
Just as cereals settle making volume measures inaccurate so that
weight measures are used on their boxes with the warning that the
boxes do not appear full because settling has occurred, so too manna,
which is likened to wafers (Exodus 16:31) settle so that the Exodus
16:16 omer measure is, in fact, a weight measure in accord with what
is written at Exodus 16:33.
Bottom line:
3+ LIEs in a row.
You have, again, struck out and have, yet again, unwittingly
demonstrated that there is no truth in you, who are eternally
condemned for blaspheming (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, Who is
the Spirit of Truth.
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger for food, I again pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are
eternally condemned more than ever increasing His curse upon you by
extending this curse to your extended family **and** all who know you,
causing them each to die in terrible agony, one by one, so that all
others reading this will benefit by learning from your example to not
blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO !
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_
+++
Within the thread titled ><> Being wonderfully hungry on 02/09/19 ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/LTOqk8IheKA/0kAF2EmxBAAJ
... an eternally condemned nymshifter (aka servant of satan), ever
more cursed by GOD, vainly wrote in the author line:
(My name is) curious
LIE x 2
Your name is not curious...
... nor are you curious.
> In the previous 3 parts we saw how a 20 lb. (sic) overweight Mr. Chung was
> confused about nutritional info he encountered.
LIE x 3
The true title for http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew is "Doctor" simply
because he has **both** an M.D. and a Ph.D. degree.
Source:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
"This will be forever true." -- Holy Spirit (see John 3:16)
Laus DEO !
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_
"The Everest climbers were receiving 10 lbs of food per week which is
actually 1.43 lbs per day."
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mWz5zjw6Cu8/350TfF7qDgAJ
This fact allows possible rehydration with 0.57 lbs of water as
needed.
> His lack of knowledge led him to think 2 lb.s (sic) of food per day was an ideal
> diet for a physically active person.
LIE.
2 lbs is by definition a quantity (i.e. a weight measure), which is
logically http://HeartMDPhD.com/NotDiet else 0 lbs would also be a
diet instead of what it really is, which is fasting.
> He was also mistaken to think the biblical omer was a measure of weight, 2
> lb.s. (sic) Itt (sic) was not, instead like a quart it measured volume, in this it was
> used for grain of around some 7 pounds.
LIE x 2
Manna is **not** grain according to its description as given at Exodus
16:31 where it is likened to wafers made with honey (i.e. processed
food that is more like dessert instead of raw grain)
Moreover, the Exodus 16:16 omer is, in fact, a weight measure.
"Take a jar, and put an omer of manna in it, and place it before the
LORD to be kept throughout your generations." (Exodus 16:33)
If the Exodus 16:16 omer were a volume measure, Exodus 16:33 would
have been written as "Fill an omer jar with manna and place it before
the LORD to be kept throughout your generations."
"A Biblical omer of manna weighs 2 pounds." -- Holy Spirit (see Exodus
16:16 and Exodus 16:33 and Revelation 6:6)
"An extra-Biblical omer volume measure of manna can weigh 2 pounds if
there's no settling." -- Holy Spirit (see Exodus 16:16 and Revelation
6:6 and Exodus 16:31)
Just as an ounce can be either a weight or a volume measure, so too
the omer (Biblical versus extra-Biblical). That both unit measures
start with the letter "o" did not happen by chance (Proverbs 16:33)
just as the matching of Exodus 16:33 with Proverbs 16:33 chapter &
verse numbers did not happen by chance nor that the Exodus 16 verses
bookend the 32nd verse reminding us that at Exodus 16:32, Moses really
cared more about the right amount (Revelation 6:6) of daily manna
being his legacy to the nation of Israel instead of it's composition
so much so that he lied about the LORD telling him to command his
brother, Aaron, to place a jar of an omer of manna in the Ark (a jar
that subsequently went missing from later inventories of Ark contents
because the manna became riddled with maggots proving that Moses lied
thereby explaining why his siblings later rebelled against him).
Just as cereals settle making volume measures inaccurate so that
weight measures are used on their boxes with the warning that the
boxes do not appear full because settling has occurred, so too manna,
which is again likened to wafers (Exodus 16:31) settle so that the
Exodus 16:16 omer measure is, in fact, a weight measure in accord with
what is written at Exodus 16:33.
Bottom line:
3+ LIEs in a row by what is clearly a pathological liar.
You have, again, struck out and have, yet again, unwittingly
demonstrated that there is no truth in you, who are eternally
condemned for blaspheming (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, Who is
the Spirit of Truth.
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger for food, I again pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are
eternally condemned more than ever increasing His curse upon you by
extending this curse to your extended family **and** all who know you,
causing them each to die in terrible agony, one by one, so that all
others reading this will benefit by learning from your example to not
blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO !
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_
+++
Within the thread titled **Exposing the "hunger is starvation"
(Genesis 25:32) delusion (2 Thessalonians 2:11) of the eternally
condemned on 01/01/18 ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/dDW90vO_2LE
... an eternally condemned & ever more cursed nymshifter (aka woeful
wonder) asked on 01/15/18:
> Dr. chung, would you define "Schizoaffective Disorder" for us and provide
> some example symptoms?
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/dDW90vO_2LE/GdUA8Ed9AAAJ
"Schizoaffective disorder is a mental disorder in which a person
experiences a combination of schizophrenia symptoms, such as
hallucinations or delusions, and mood disorder symptoms, such as
depression or mania."
Source:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/schizoaffective-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20354504
The key "example symptom" relevant here in your case would be your
"having false, fixed beliefs, despite evidence to the contrary"
specifically being the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis 25:32)
false&fixed belief (delusion prophesied at 2 Thessalonians 2:11) being
vanquished for other readers at:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/dDW90vO_2LE/XXLJsNBdAAAJ
The reason for the disorder is GOD cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you to have
the mental-illness-causing http://bit.ly/HeartVAT which is a
consequence of overeating (eating more than 32 oz/day of food
according to what's written at Revelation 6:6) which is the deadly
(Proverb 23:2) Adam&Eve sin (Hebrews 12:1) of gluttony.
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that
GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned, more than ever by expanding His curse to also include your
**extended** household more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO !
Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.
Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html
Again, this is done ...
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://bit.ly/HeartVAT
from around the heart
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Oct 19, 2020, 1:52:34 PM10/19/20
to
James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>> never born:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>
>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>
>> Adam was created from dust:
>>
>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>
>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>
>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>
>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>> more than they needed:
>
> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
> gluttony.
The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
> to them: Gen 3:11,
>
> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
**emphasis** added.
This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
"and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
>> "When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and
>> pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took
>> some and **ate** it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her,
>> and he **ate** it." (Genesis 3:6)
**Emphasis** added.
Thus, it is very clearly written here that Eve "took some" of "the
fruit of the tree" instead of "stole some," therefore the sin for Eve
is **not** theft, but gluttony.
Moreover, it is written at Genesis 3:5:
"For GOD knows that when you **eat** from it your eyes will be opened,
and you will be like GOD, knowing good and evil."
**Emphasis** again added.
Therefore ...
>> Again, for 10/19/20, here's how to stop sinning:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ
>>
>> "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- Holy
>> Spirit (referring to John 5:14)
>>
>> Source:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/twdqZ5BAmXU/0kkDNAYvBQAJ
>>
>> Suffering the "Great Tribulation" would indeed be worse.
>>
>> As would becoming eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned as in the tragic
>> example of MichaelC who is being ever more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
>> GOD:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/81-rVgEIwdU/mzVPeVdKDgAJ
>>
>> So let us not be a http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32)
>> Drumpf ( http://bit.ly/W_d_DJT_r ) or else we'll most certainly die a
>> http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:
>>
>> http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>> never born:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>
>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>
>> Adam was created from dust:
>>
>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>
>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>
>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>
>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>> more than they needed:
>
> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
> gluttony.
The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
> to them: Gen 3:11,
>
> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
**emphasis** added.
This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
"and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
>> "When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and
>> pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took
>> some and **ate** it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her,
>> and he **ate** it." (Genesis 3:6)
**Emphasis** added.
Thus, it is very clearly written here that Eve "took some" of "the
fruit of the tree" instead of "stole some," therefore the sin for Eve
is **not** theft, but gluttony.
Moreover, it is written at Genesis 3:5:
"For GOD knows that when you **eat** from it your eyes will be opened,
and you will be like GOD, knowing good and evil."
**Emphasis** again added.
Therefore ...
>> Again, for 10/19/20, here's how to stop sinning:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ
>>
>> "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- Holy
>> Spirit (referring to John 5:14)
>>
>> Source:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/twdqZ5BAmXU/0kkDNAYvBQAJ
>>
>> Suffering the "Great Tribulation" would indeed be worse.
>>
>> As would becoming eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned as in the tragic
>> example of MichaelC who is being ever more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
>> GOD:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/81-rVgEIwdU/mzVPeVdKDgAJ
>>
>> So let us not be a http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32)
>> Drumpf ( http://bit.ly/W_d_DJT_r ) or else we'll most certainly die a
>> http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:
>>
>> http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Oct 20, 2020, 1:56:57 AM10/20/20
to
(Rev1:7) 10/20/20 Again here ...
zeb...@windstream.net
Oct 20, 2020, 4:32:29 AM10/20/20
to
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 01:57:11 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>(Rev1:7) 10/20/20 Again here ...
>
>James wrote:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>> never born:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>
>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>
>>> Adam was created from dust:
>>>
>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>
>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>
>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>
>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>> more than they needed:
>>
>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>> gluttony.
>
>The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
If its not in the Bible, we have no way of knowing that.
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>(Rev1:7) 10/20/20 Again here ...
>
>James wrote:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>> never born:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>
>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>
>>> Adam was created from dust:
>>>
>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>
>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>
>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>
>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>> more than they needed:
>>
>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>> gluttony.
>
>The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
>
>Source:
>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
>
>> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
>> to them: Gen 3:11,
>>
>> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
>
>**emphasis** added.
>
>This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
>
>"and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
>
>Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
>to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
"When you sit down to eat with a king,
Carefully consider what is before you;"
If you eat more than the king, that could embarrass him. And that
would put your life in jeopardy.
>
>>> "When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and
>>> pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took
>>> some and **ate** it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her,
>>> and he **ate** it." (Genesis 3:6)
>
>**Emphasis** added.
>
>Thus, it is very clearly written here that Eve "took some" of "the
>fruit of the tree" instead of "stole some," therefore the sin for Eve
>is **not** theft, but gluttony.
take something that didn't belong to you, it's called stealing.
>
>Moreover, it is written at Genesis 3:5:
>
>"For GOD knows that when you **eat** from it your eyes will be opened,
>and you will be like GOD, knowing good and evil."
>
>**Emphasis** again added.
>
>Therefore ...
themselves what it right and what is wrong. Therefore....
>
>>> Again, for 10/19/20, here's how to stop sinning:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ
>>>
>>> "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- Holy
>>> Spirit (referring to John 5:14)
>>>
>>> Source:
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/twdqZ5BAmXU/0kkDNAYvBQAJ
>>>
>>> Suffering the "Great Tribulation" would indeed be worse.
>>>
>>> As would becoming eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned as in the tragic
>>> example of MichaelC who is being ever more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
>>> GOD:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/81-rVgEIwdU/mzVPeVdKDgAJ
>>>
>>> So let us not be a http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32)
>>> Drumpf ( http://bit.ly/W_d_DJT_r ) or else we'll most certainly die a
>>> http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:
>>>
>>> http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
>
>In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, James, also have a
>healthy appetite too.
>
>So how are you ?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Oct 20, 2020, 8:27:08 AM10/20/20
to
James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> (Rev1:7) 10/20/20 Again here ...
>>
>> James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>>> never born:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>>
>>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>>
>>>> Adam was created from dust:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>>
>>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>>
>>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>>> more than they needed:
>>>
>>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>>> gluttony.
>>
>> The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
>>
>> Source:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> (Rev1:7) 10/20/20 Again here ...
>>
>> James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>>> never born:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>>
>>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>>
>>>> Adam was created from dust:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>>
>>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>>
>>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>>> more than they needed:
>>>
>>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>>> gluttony.
>>
>> The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
>
> If its not in the Bible, we have no way of knowing that.
The way (John 14:6) to know true (John 21:24) things, including the
> If its not in the Bible, we have no way of knowing that.
definition of gluttony, outside of the Bible is by learning from LORD
Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Who is the truth, for it's written in the
Bible that ...
"Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were
written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room
for the books that would be written." (John 21:25)
>>
>>> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
>>> to them: Gen 3:11,
>>>
>>> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
>>
>> **emphasis** added.
>>
>> This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
>>
>> "and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
>>
>> Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
>> to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
>
> Look at the context. Vs 1:
>
> "When you sit down to eat with a king,
> Carefully consider what is before you;"
>
> If you eat more than the king, that could embarrass him. And that
> would put your life in jeopardy.
(Revelation 19:16). Moreover, GOD is omnipotent so that none are able
to eat as much as GOD much less more than GOD.
Thus, we learn from Proverbs 23:1-2 that indeed ...
"The definition of gluttony is having eaten more than needed." -- Holy
Spirit (referring to Proverbs 23:1-2)
Therefore, what is written at Proverbs 23:2 indicates that we prepare
to take our own life with the "knife at our throat" because it's
better to have our life destroyed by our own hand than to have our
soul destroyed by GOD for our committing the sin of gluttony.
"It is better for you to commit suicide than to lose your soul" --
Holy Spirit (referring to Matthew 16:26)
>>>> "When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and
>>>> pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took
>>>> some and **ate** it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her,
>>>> and he **ate** it." (Genesis 3:6)
>>
>> **Emphasis** added.
>>
>> Thus, it is very clearly written here that Eve "took some" of "the
>> fruit of the tree" instead of "stole some," therefore the sin for Eve
>> is **not** theft, but gluttony.
>
> That tree didn't belong to her to eat from.
> And she knew it.
She wasn't present for GOD's command to Adam to know it:
"“You are free to **eat** from any tree in the garden; but you must
not **eat** from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when
you **eat** from it you will certainly die.” (Genesis 2:16-17)
**Emphasis** added.
Instead, she learned the command from Adam, who apparently added to
GOD's words with his own that Eve also not touch the fruit or she'd
die. The latter is what gave an opening for satan to deceive Eve.
> If you
> take something that didn't belong to you, it's called stealing.
Instead, they both confessed to the sin of having eaten more than they
needed.
"The woman You put here with me -- she gave me some fruit from the
tree, and I ate it." -- Adam (Genesis 3:12)
"The serpent deceived me, and I ate." -- Eve (Genesis 3:13)
"The definition of gluttony is having eaten more than needed." -- Holy
Spirit (again referring to Proverbs 23:1-2)
>>
>> Moreover, it is written at Genesis 3:5:
>>
>> "For GOD knows that when you **eat** from it your eyes will be opened,
>> and you will be like GOD, knowing good and evil."
>>
>> **Emphasis** again added.
>>
>> Therefore ...
>
> Their eating from it showed God that they could determine for
> themselves what it right and what is wrong. Therefore....
needed.
"The woman You put here with me -- she gave me some fruit from the
tree, and I ate it." -- Adam (Genesis 3:12)
"The serpent deceived me, and I ate." -- Eve (Genesis 3:13)
"The definition of gluttony is having eaten more than needed." -- Holy
Spirit (again referring to Proverbs 23:1-2)
Therefore ...
>>>> Again, for 10/19/20, here's how to stop sinning:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ
>>>>
>>>> "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- Holy
>>>> Spirit (referring to John 5:14)
>>>>
>>>> Source:
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/twdqZ5BAmXU/0kkDNAYvBQAJ
>>>>
>>>> Suffering the "Great Tribulation" would indeed be worse.
>>>>
>>>> As would becoming eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned as in the tragic
>>>> example of MichaelC who is being ever more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
>>>> GOD:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/81-rVgEIwdU/mzVPeVdKDgAJ
>>>>
>>>> So let us not be a http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32)
>>>> Drumpf ( http://bit.ly/W_d_DJT_r ) or else we'll most certainly die a
>>>> http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:
>>>>
>>>> http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
>>
>> In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, James, also have a
>> healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> Need to eat all the time. Sugar level and such.
you have a healthy appetite," I remind you, James, that it's really
Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) knowing through our hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3)
that we're both being blessed right now as it's written in the Gospels
in red&white at Luke 6:21 **and** according to pure logic
{{healthy=wonderful & appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to
write that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here
that you are:
So now how are you ?
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
duckg...@cox.net
Oct 20, 2020, 9:12:00 AM10/20/20
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 04:32:27 -0400, zeb...@windstream.net wrote:
>On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 01:57:11 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
><disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>
>>(Rev1:7) 10/20/20 Again here ...
>>
>>James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>>> never born:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>>
>>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>>
>>>> Adam was created from dust:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>>
>>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>>
>>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>>> more than they needed:
>>>
>>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>>> gluttony.
>>
>>The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
>
>If its not in the Bible, we have no way of knowing that.
People that walked and talked with Jesus 2000 years ago know. And they kept
>On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 01:57:11 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
><disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>
>>(Rev1:7) 10/20/20 Again here ...
>>
>>James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>>> never born:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>>
>>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>>
>>>> Adam was created from dust:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>>
>>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>>
>>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>>> more than they needed:
>>>
>>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>>> gluttony.
>>
>>The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
>
>If its not in the Bible, we have no way of knowing that.
this knowledge flowing to the 2000 year old Catholic Church.
Remember John 21:25.
the dukester, American-American
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Oct 20, 2020, 9:18:48 AM10/20/20
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Duke wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>>>> So again, how are you ?
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>>>
>>> What is the good behind having to say it your way?
>
>> Source:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/m8SaojOWhh8/nUA0WysmBQAJ
>
>> My name is **not** "Wonderful" (Isaiah 9:6).
>>
>> Instead, "Wonderful" is the name of our "Mighty GOD" (Isaiah 9:6) Who
>> is the only One Who is good (Matthew 19:17)
>
>> Therefore, saying/writing that we're "wonderfully hungry" is the way
>> (John 14:6) of GOD, Who is really our Righteousness (Jeremiah 23:6).
>
>> Source:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/Na2rM7m70k8/7Xlg3A8vDAAJ
>
>> Therefore, I again really advise a 10th time here within this post
>> that you, Duke, **really** try to write that you're "wonderfully
>> hungry" since we've established here that you are:
>>
>> So again, how are you ?
>
> I am trying to guide my life as God calls me, but I'm clearly not perfect..
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/tzApl2zV53A/IHKtM3fiAwAJ
While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke 6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14)
that GOD changes your heart (Ezekiel 11:19-20 & 36:26) so that you,
Duke, would come to trust the truth (John 14:6), Who is Jesus Christ
of Nazareth --> http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Laus DEO.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Oct 21, 2020, 7:55:45 AM10/21/20
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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zeb...@windstream.net
Oct 23, 2020, 7:36:55 AM10/23/20
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On 03 Oct 2020 00:08:31 GMT, servant wrote:
>
>>Jesus HAS returned. Bible Evidence
>>
>> Many are still waiting to see Jesus' return. He already has.
>>"Are you nuts?" No, consider the evidence yourself.
>
>This jw vatican theory from the first jw pope is interesting, it
>illustrates two flaws in the approach to scripture. Firsst we need to set
>the stage for the entire thing. The history
> evidence from
>scripture.
>
>Mr. russel, the first jw pope, flirted with millerism in the last half of
>the 19th century.. That group was in the habit of making predictions of
>the 2nd coming and setting dates for it. All were flops, false prophets
>one and all.
>
>Mr. russel also when he started his own group began to set dates. This was
>a selling point for his group to twist the arms of people to get with it
>and join up before the date arrived.
>
>Before his death early in the 20th century he set two dates, you guessed
>it, no 2nd coming.
>
>But wait, he had a trump card up his sleeve. The last of the millerite
>failures came up with a new never never seen before in church history
>excuse. The 2nd coming happened as predicted, Christ just had an invisible
>2nd coming.
>
>Yup, mr. russel well aware of that lame excuse adopted it to explain his
>failure, a sure fire false prophet
There you go again. Living 100 years ago. How many times have I told
>
>>Jesus HAS returned. Bible Evidence
>>
>> Many are still waiting to see Jesus' return. He already has.
>>"Are you nuts?" No, consider the evidence yourself.
>
>This jw vatican theory from the first jw pope is interesting, it
>illustrates two flaws in the approach to scripture. Firsst we need to set
>the stage for the entire thing. The history
> evidence from
>scripture.
>
>Mr. russel, the first jw pope, flirted with millerism in the last half of
>the 19th century.. That group was in the habit of making predictions of
>the 2nd coming and setting dates for it. All were flops, false prophets
>one and all.
>
>Mr. russel also when he started his own group began to set dates. This was
>a selling point for his group to twist the arms of people to get with it
>and join up before the date arrived.
>
>Before his death early in the 20th century he set two dates, you guessed
>it, no 2nd coming.
>
>But wait, he had a trump card up his sleeve. The last of the millerite
>failures came up with a new never never seen before in church history
>excuse. The 2nd coming happened as predicted, Christ just had an invisible
>2nd coming.
>
>Yup, mr. russel well aware of that lame excuse adopted it to explain his
>failure, a sure fire false prophet
you that NOW is what counts with God. Like ALL churches, past mistakes
have been dealt with. NOW is what's up:
- Revised Standard
Matthew 24:13 But he who endures to the end will be saved.
- Revised Standard
Proverbs 4:18 But the path of the righteous is like the light of
dawn, which shines brighter and brighter until full day.
-- Revised Standard
Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached
throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then
the end will come.
Look who is preaching "this gospel of the kingdom". ONLY JW'S.
As the cover of ANY Watchtower magazine says; ANNOUNCING JEHOVAH'S
KINGDOM.
Now think about it. If you are constantly criticizing the JW's, then
you are actually fighting against God since God is using them to
preach the kingdom message in these last days. (Mt 24:14)
Do you know what God's kingdom is? (please don't resort back 100 years
ago or so, about Russell) Mt 24:14 is going on NOW and being fulfilled
NOW as we speak.
would be going on. And they were and are.
>
>So why did the first war matter, mr. russel's last failed prediction before
>his death was for 1914, the start
>of the war.
>
>It was a failure on the Matt. above, only 1 of 3 elements was present.
>
>After the plain meaning of his prediction failed, the millerite excuse was
>used, handy, no?
>
>Looking at another theory given us today in part to support the excuse:
>
>>We don't see Jesus. And Rev 1:7 says he is coming with the
>>clouds and every eye will see him. Why can't we see him?
>>
>>Because Jesus said humans will never see him again:
>>
>>John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world will see me no more, but
>>you will see me; because I live, you will live also.
>
>Wait, did my eyess just decieve me?
No, just your brain.
>Looking at another theory given us today in part to support the excuse:
>
>>We don't see Jesus. And Rev 1:7 says he is coming with the
>>clouds and every eye will see him. Why can't we see him?
>>
>>Because Jesus said humans will never see him again:
>>
>>John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world will see me no more, but
>>you will see me; because I live, you will live also.
>
>Wait, did my eyess just decieve me?
---if you get a spell checker you will do better---
> First I will go away and not bee seen,
>then you will see me.
Revelation (not ALL things are figurative) at Rev 1:7 is figurative.
You don't believe Jesus at John 14:19? Here it is again:
-- New King James
John 14:19 "A little while longer and the world will see Me no more,
but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also.
I have a few questions for you. See if you can answer them without
getting into Russellism, or circular logic, etc.
What is the WORLD?
What does "see me no more" mean?
Who are "but you will see me"?
Why do only they see him?
>
>>A clue at Rev 1:7 is that he returns "WITH THE CLOUDS". Why not a
>>clear day? Because the clouds represent invisibility.
>
>"Represents" for whom in scripture indipendent of that bald fase assertion?
>Do we have a case of circular false logic being suggested?
(notice there are two l's in Russell), you are not quoting the
Scriptures we are discussing.
>>
>>Remember when Jesus went back to Heaven he disappeared into the clouds
>>so no one could see him then? The Scripture as Acts 1:11 said he would
>>return "IN THE SAME WAY AS YOU SAW HIM GO INTO HEAVEN."
>>He went into Heaven by disappearing behind clouds.
>>
>>Acts 1:11 and said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into
>>heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come
>>in the same way as you saw him go into heaven."
>>
>>Going into clouds, coming with clouds. Thus invisibly.
>Yup, the false circular logic was just presented.
>
>Correction, there is an error already, the relevant verse:
>
>1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken
>up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
>
>"A cloud" not "clouds", and He was for some time fully visible until
>entering the cloud.
>
>Then another source of error we find in scripture:
>
>4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the
>voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in
> Christ shall rise first:
>
>Do we see any retracing the visible ascent to stand on earth yet?
that he has an archangel voice. Only an archangel has the voice of an
archangel. And the Bible says there is only ONE archangel, Michael.
And only Jesus has the keys to the dead. So guess who Jesus is?
(yes I know it's all Russell's fault, or it is circular reasoning,
etc)
>
>4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with
>them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be
>with the Lord.
>
>No clouds related to being invisible as "hidden", just a location in the
>sky.
>
>He will be seen and be with Christ by those meeting Him in the clouds is
>the plain reading and meaning, no invisible jw vatican invisible bit fits
>there.
>
>No retracing the ascention from earth, no visible descent to stand on earth
>after leaveing a single cloud; visible all the time during the descent as,
>reversing the account in Accts.
>
>nope it ain't there.
figurative because he said no one in the WORLD will ever see him
again. (John 14:19) Those are Jesus' words not mine. So you can't
blame it on 'JW Vatican', or Russell, or circular reasoning, etc.
>
>Here we clearly have an attempt to fit a false prophet millerite/jw vatican
>
>theory, an excuse, back into scripture which does not logically contain it.
>
>Not one word in the previous 1914 years did someone teach the jw vatican
>theory flows from the text. Not one word at all, no not one to support it
>for any reason. at any time. No false prophet had to be excused, no?
>
>Same text, no need to invent a theory of excused failure is the clear
>message from an unbroken christian witness. Nope, it just ain't gonna fit
>the jw vatican claims of the nature of the events of asent and desent, is
>refuted by scripture itself, not one "hidden/invisible" bit, no not one
>single one. that has not after the fact been inserted as circular logic.
You sound like a broken record with few specifics and more
>Here we clearly have an attempt to fit a false prophet millerite/jw vatican
>
>theory, an excuse, back into scripture which does not logically contain it.
>
>Not one word in the previous 1914 years did someone teach the jw vatican
>theory flows from the text. Not one word at all, no not one to support it
>for any reason. at any time. No false prophet had to be excused, no?
>
>Same text, no need to invent a theory of excused failure is the clear
>message from an unbroken christian witness. Nope, it just ain't gonna fit
>the jw vatican claims of the nature of the events of asent and desent, is
>refuted by scripture itself, not one "hidden/invisible" bit, no not one
>single one. that has not after the fact been inserted as circular logic.
generalizations.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Oct 23, 2020, 10:17:44 AM10/23/20
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James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> James wrote:
>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> James wrote:
>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Re: Hallelujah – Pentatonix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Do you know what Hallelujah really means?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> The Webster Dictionary defines Halleluyah as:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> "Halleluyah is a composite of Hallelu and Yah. It literally translates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> from Hebrew as "Praise Jah/Yah, [you people!]" or simply "Praise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Jah/Yah!" Jah/Yah is the shortened form of the name Jehovah/Yahweh."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Thus whether you realize it or not, you are really saying "Praise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Jehovah", ("Praise Jah") each time you say the poetic form of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Jehovah's name; "Hallelujah". Yes, praise Jehovah.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Source:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/lTUMNLiDrm8/ny-6lKrpBQAJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> And because it's written that there's only one GOD, Who has many names
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> (Isaiah 9:6), including Mighty GOD, everlasting Father, I AM, Jehovah,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> and Wonderful; Hallelujah in English is "praise GOD" and in Latin is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> "Laus DEO"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> http://WDJW.net/LausDEO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> In the interim, I am simply wonderfully hungry (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) and hope you, James, also have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> healthy appetite too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> So how are you ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Fine ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> So how are you ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I hope your "fine" means you, James, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > So you do have the ability to eat a piece of healthy fruit at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > moment, don't you (yes/no) ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, a bananna.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I share with you, James, that it's really Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) knowing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through our hunger that we're both being blessed right now as it's written
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the Gospels in red&white at Luke 6:21 **and** according to pure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logic (healthy=wonderful & appetite=hunger) and advise that you try to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> write that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So now how are you ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The same as before ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/lTUMNLiDrm8/mK-51D4pBwAJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I again advise that you, James, really try to write that you're
>>>>>>>>>>>> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Always hungry for God's Bible truths. (2 Tim 3:16)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/ieIe76TH_9E/ai9G0M-hAQAJ
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then you should always write that you're "wonderfully hungry."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thus, I again really advise that you, James, **really** try to write that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Starving for, among other things, hidden spiritual food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/lTUMNLiDrm8/3YyG-dEQAwAJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I again really advise a 4th time here that you, James, **really** try to write that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings to you also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I again really advise a 5th time here that you, James, **really** try to write
>>>>>> that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, I'll take the bate:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am wonderfully hungry...
>>>>
>>>> Source:
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/lTUMNLiDrm8/sLXNav0kBwAJ
>>>>
>>>> I note that you, James, are now rapture (Luke 17:37) ready
>>
>>> Actually, the Bible doesn't teach of a rapture of all the righteous
>>> ones...
>>
>> Correct.
>>
>> Instead of the Bible, it's the LORD our Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) GOD who
>> teaches us about the rapture because He is the One Who helps us solve
>> His wonderful riddle that is written in the Bible at Luke 17:37 about
>> where the rapture will take place:
>>
>> "Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered
>> together" (Luke 17:37; KJV)
>>
>> Eagles are indeed raptors so that it is right to call the event
>> describing the taking up "of all the righteous ones" as the rapture
>> when thinking about this riddle.
>>
>> HIS solution to the riddle about where we must be to be rapture (Luke
>> 17:37) ready is that we must be http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Luke
>> 24:42) like the eagles circling patiently in flight around their food
>> and like the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD, Who is described in the
>> Bible to be like an Eagle, and Who is patiently waiting for us to eat
>> with Him at His wedding supper.
>
> Well, you got one big problem with the all righteous get raptured. It
> is Jesus words:
>
> -- King James
> Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
According to LORD Jesus' words written in Revelation, the Earth will
be made new, thereby making it a much better inheritance for those who
get raptured instead of for those who get left behind, like Cleopas
and Simon were left behind because of their being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32, Luke 24:32) misbehaving
(Hebrews 12:16) terribly wolfing down food in Emmaus instead of
waiting on our risen LORD, to suffer the Great Tribulation (Luke
17:29-30) which will indeed make Earth a new planet with no sea.
This does mean that, in accord with the rest of Scripture, the Earth
will be around forever but its pollution not so much.
Laus DEO :-)
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our
Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) Father continues to give us, James, "much
more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have
much more of His help to always say/write that we're "wonderfully
hungry" in **all** ways including especially caring to
http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward in order to love (John 15:12) as our
LORD loves (John 15:13) us with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ )
to GOD, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen. Laus DEO :-)
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Oct 23, 2020, 10:25:57 AM10/23/20
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zeb...@windstream.net
Nov 6, 2020, 7:45:53 AM11/6/20
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 07:14:50 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>(Rev1:7) 11/06/20 Again here ...
>
>James wrote:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>> never born:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>
>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>
>>> Adam was created from dust:
>>>
>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>
>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>
>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>
>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>> more than they needed:
>>
>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>> gluttony.
>
>The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
Adam and Eve were created perfect. Their bodies would have told them
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>(Rev1:7) 11/06/20 Again here ...
>
>James wrote:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>> never born:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>
>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>
>>> Adam was created from dust:
>>>
>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>
>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>
>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>
>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>> more than they needed:
>>
>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>> gluttony.
>
>The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
when they should stop eating. We today are imperfect. Thus we have
cravings that A&E didn't have.
>
>Source:
>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
>
>> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
>> to them: Gen 3:11,
>>
>> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
>
>**emphasis** added.
>
>This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
>
>"and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
>
>Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
>to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
Jesus command to "Love your neighbor AS YOURSELF." (all caps mine)
>
>>> "When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and
>>> pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took
>>> some and **ate** it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her,
>>> and he **ate** it." (Genesis 3:6)
>
>**Emphasis** added.
>
>Thus, it is very clearly written here that Eve "took some" of "the
>fruit of the tree" instead of "stole some," therefore the sin for Eve
>is **not** theft, but gluttony.
Nothing in the Bible suggested that Eve or Adam overate.
>>> "When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and
>>> pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took
>>> some and **ate** it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her,
>>> and he **ate** it." (Genesis 3:6)
>
>**Emphasis** added.
>
>Thus, it is very clearly written here that Eve "took some" of "the
>fruit of the tree" instead of "stole some," therefore the sin for Eve
>is **not** theft, but gluttony.
A&E took something that didn't belong to them. That is called
stealing. They also disobeyed their Creator. That was 2 strikes
against them.
>
>Moreover, it is written at Genesis 3:5:
>
>"For GOD knows that when you **eat** from it your eyes will be opened,
>and you will be like GOD, knowing good and evil."
>
>**Emphasis** again added.
>
>Therefore ...
evil to eat from that tree.
In what way does God know good and evil? God decides for Himself what
is good and what is evil. So when they ate of the fruit, they were
being like God, deciding for themselves what was good and bad.
>
>>> Again, for 10/19/20, here's how to stop sinning:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ
>>>
>>> "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- Holy
>>> Spirit (referring to John 5:14)
>>>
>>> Source:
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/twdqZ5BAmXU/0kkDNAYvBQAJ
>>>
>>> Suffering the "Great Tribulation" would indeed be worse.
>>>
>>> As would becoming eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned as in the tragic
>>> example of MichaelC who is being ever more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
>>> GOD:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/81-rVgEIwdU/mzVPeVdKDgAJ
>>>
>>> So let us not be a http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32)
>>> Drumpf ( http://bit.ly/W_d_DJT_r ) or else we'll most certainly die a
>>> http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:
>>>
>>> http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
>
>In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, James, also have a
>healthy appetite too.
>
>So how are you ?
duckg...@cox.net
Nov 6, 2020, 8:00:34 AM11/6/20
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 07:45:52 -0500, zeb...@windstream.net wrote:
>On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 07:14:50 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
><disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>
>>(Rev1:7) 11/06/20 Again here ...
>>
>>James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>>> never born:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>>
>>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>>
>>>> Adam was created from dust:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>>
>>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>>
>>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>>> more than they needed:
>>>
>>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>>> gluttony.
>>
>>The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
But not the sin of gluttony. YOu continually fail to reflect scripture's
>On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 07:14:50 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
><disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>
>>(Rev1:7) 11/06/20 Again here ...
>>
>>James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>>> never born:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>>
>>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>>
>>>> Adam was created from dust:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>>
>>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>>
>>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>>> more than they needed:
>>>
>>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>>> gluttony.
>>
>>The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
message for the jw mistake
>Adam and Eve were created perfect. Their bodies would have told them
>when they should stop eating. We today are imperfect. Thus we have
>cravings that A&E didn't have.
the dukester, American-American
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 6, 2020, 8:43:36 AM11/6/20
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James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> (Rev1:7) 11/06/20 Again here ...
>>
>> James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>>> never born:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>>
>>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>>
>>>> Adam was created from dust:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>>
>>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>>
>>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>>> more than they needed:
>>>
>>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>>> gluttony.
>>
>> The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
>
> Adam and Eve were created perfect.
Perfectly able to choose to eat the figs from the tree of knowledge
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> (Rev1:7) 11/06/20 Again here ...
>>
>> James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>>> never born:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>>
>>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>>
>>>> Adam was created from dust:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>>
>>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>>
>>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>>> more than they needed:
>>>
>>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>>> gluttony.
>>
>> The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
>
> Adam and Eve were created perfect.
and thereby eat "more than needed."
They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
to know from GOD.
> Their bodies would have told them
> when they should stop eating.
sin of gluttony happens from the outset of the eating (see Proverbs
23:2).
> We today are imperfect. Thus we have
> cravings that A&E didn't have.
Just as A&E sinned by choosing to follow their desires instead of
following GOD, so can we sin, for GOD allows free will (aka free
choice) to sin.
>>
>> Source:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
>>
>>> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
>>> to them: Gen 3:11,
>>>
>>> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
>>
>> **emphasis** added.
>>
>> This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
>>
>> "and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
>>
>> Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
>> to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
>
> Murder of yourself, is still murder of a person.
attempted suicide not later being convicted of attempted murder.
Moreover, it is described in the Bible that GOD helped Samson, His
annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
GOD doesn't sin much less help us sin.
> And it goes against
> Jesus command to "Love your neighbor AS YOURSELF." (all caps mine)
Moreover, it is written that our LORD Jesus says that if our eyes
cause us to sin, better for us to pluck out our eyes, in order to stop
sinning, so that we can enter the Kingdom of GOD.
>>>> "When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and
>>>> pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took
>>>> some and **ate** it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her,
>>>> and he **ate** it." (Genesis 3:6)
>>
>> **Emphasis** added.
>>
>> Thus, it is very clearly written here that Eve "took some" of "the
>> fruit of the tree" instead of "stole some," therefore the sin for Eve
>> is **not** theft, but gluttony.
>
> Nothing in the Bible suggested that Eve or Adam overate.
3:12-13) to the over-eating.
> A&E took something that didn't belong to them. That is called
> stealing. They also disobeyed their Creator. That was 2 strikes
> against them.
they needed (see above).
>>
>> Moreover, it is written at Genesis 3:5:
>>
>> "For GOD knows that when you **eat** from it your eyes will be opened,
>> and you will be like GOD, knowing good and evil."
>>
>> **Emphasis** again added.
>>
>>Therefore ...
>
> They knew what evil was before they ate of the forbidden tree. It was
> evil to eat from that tree.
GOD told them not to eat that which was more than they needed.
> In what way does God know good and evil? God decides for Himself what
> is good and what is evil. So when they ate of the fruit, they were
> being like God, deciding for themselves what was good and bad.
(Matthew 19:16).
>>>> Again, for 10/19/20, here's how to stop sinning:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ
>>>>
>>>> "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- Holy
>>>> Spirit (referring to John 5:14)
>>>>
>>>> Source:
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/twdqZ5BAmXU/0kkDNAYvBQAJ
>>>>
>>>> Suffering the "Great Tribulation" would indeed be worse.
>>>>
>>>> As would becoming eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned as in the tragic
>>>> example of MichaelC who is being ever more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
>>>> GOD:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/81-rVgEIwdU/mzVPeVdKDgAJ
>>>>
>>>> So let us not be a http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32)
>>>> Drumpf ( http://bit.ly/W_d_DJT_r ) or else we'll most certainly die a
>>>> http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:
>>>>
>>>> http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
>>
>> In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, James, also have a
>> healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> Just fine. How are you?
remind you, James, that it's really Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) knowing
through our hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) that we're both being blessed
right now as it's written in the Gospels in red&white at Luke 6:21
**and** according to pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
"wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you are:
So now how are you ?
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
HeartDoc Andrew <><
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 6, 2020, 8:45:47 AM11/6/20
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Duke wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 7, 2020, 7:18:33 AM11/7/20
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(Rev1:7) 11/07/20 Again here ...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 8, 2020, 6:36:42 AM11/8/20
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(Rev1:7) 11/08/20 Again here ...
James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> (Rev1:7) 11/06/20 Again here ...
(Matthew 19:17).
>>>> Again, for 10/19/20, here's how to stop sinning:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ
>>>>
>>>> "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- Holy
>>>> Spirit (referring to John 5:14)
>>>>
>>>> Source:
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/twdqZ5BAmXU/0kkDNAYvBQAJ
>>>>
>>>> Suffering the "Great Tribulation" would indeed be worse.
>>>>
>>>> As would becoming eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned as in the tragic
>>>> example of MichaelC who is being ever more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
>>>> GOD:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/81-rVgEIwdU/mzVPeVdKDgAJ
>>>>
>>>> So let us not be a http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32)
>>>> Drumpf ( http://bit.ly/W_d_DJT_r ) or else we'll most certainly die a
>>>> http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:
>>>>
>>>> http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
>>
>> In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, James, also have a
>> healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/VCpuEQudr5Y/zwigcj4NBwAJ
Taking your "just fine" to mean "yes, you have a healthy appetite," I
remind you, James, that it's really Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) knowing
through our hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) that we're both being blessed
right now as it's written in the Gospels in red&white at Luke 6:21
**and** according to pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
"wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you are:
So now how are you ?
James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>>
>> James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>>> never born:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>>
>>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>>
>>>> Adam was created from dust:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>>
>>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>>
>>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>>> more than they needed:
>>>
>>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>>> gluttony.
>>
>> The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
>
>> James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>>> never born:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>>
>>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>>
>>>> Adam was created from dust:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>>
>>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>>
>>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>>
>>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>>> more than they needed:
>>>
>>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>>> gluttony.
>>
>> The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
>
> Adam and Eve were created perfect.
Perfectly able to choose to eat the figs from the tree of knowledge
and thereby eat "more than needed."
They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
to know from GOD.
> Their bodies would have told them
> when they should stop eating.
Once they started eating the figs, it was too late to stop because the
sin of gluttony happens from the outset of the eating (see Proverbs
23:2).
> We today are imperfect. Thus we have
> cravings that A&E didn't have.
It is written that our desires (aka cravings) are from GOD.
Just as A&E sinned by choosing to follow their desires instead of
following GOD, so can we sin, for GOD allows free will (aka free
choice) to sin.
>>
Perfectly able to choose to eat the figs from the tree of knowledge
and thereby eat "more than needed."
They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
to know from GOD.
> Their bodies would have told them
> when they should stop eating.
Once they started eating the figs, it was too late to stop because the
sin of gluttony happens from the outset of the eating (see Proverbs
23:2).
> We today are imperfect. Thus we have
> cravings that A&E didn't have.
It is written that our desires (aka cravings) are from GOD.
Just as A&E sinned by choosing to follow their desires instead of
following GOD, so can we sin, for GOD allows free will (aka free
choice) to sin.
>>
>> Source:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
>>
>>> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
>>> to them: Gen 3:11,
>>>
>>> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
>>
>> **emphasis** added.
>>
>> This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
>>
>> "and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
>>
>> Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
>> to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
>>
>>> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
>>> to them: Gen 3:11,
>>>
>>> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
>>
>> **emphasis** added.
>>
>> This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
>>
>> "and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
>>
>> Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
>> to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
>
> Murder of yourself, is still murder of a person.
Actually, suicide is not murder as evident by those surviving
attempted suicide not later being convicted of attempted murder.
Moreover, it is described in the Bible that GOD helped Samson, His
annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
GOD doesn't sin much less help us sin.
> And it goes against
> Jesus command to "Love your neighbor AS YOURSELF." (all caps mine)
Samson was not his own neighbor.
Moreover, it is written that our LORD Jesus says that if our eyes
cause us to sin, better for us to pluck out our eyes, in order to stop
sinning, so that we can enter the Kingdom of GOD.
Actually, suicide is not murder as evident by those surviving
attempted suicide not later being convicted of attempted murder.
Moreover, it is described in the Bible that GOD helped Samson, His
annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
GOD doesn't sin much less help us sin.
> And it goes against
> Jesus command to "Love your neighbor AS YOURSELF." (all caps mine)
Samson was not his own neighbor.
Moreover, it is written that our LORD Jesus says that if our eyes
cause us to sin, better for us to pluck out our eyes, in order to stop
sinning, so that we can enter the Kingdom of GOD.
>>>> "When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and
>>>> pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took
>>>> some and **ate** it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her,
>>>> and he **ate** it." (Genesis 3:6)
>>
>> **Emphasis** added.
>>
>> Thus, it is very clearly written here that Eve "took some" of "the
>> fruit of the tree" instead of "stole some," therefore the sin for Eve
>> is **not** theft, but gluttony.
>
>>>> pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took
>>>> some and **ate** it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her,
>>>> and he **ate** it." (Genesis 3:6)
>>
>> **Emphasis** added.
>>
>> Thus, it is very clearly written here that Eve "took some" of "the
>> fruit of the tree" instead of "stole some," therefore the sin for Eve
>> is **not** theft, but gluttony.
>
> Nothing in the Bible suggested that Eve or Adam overate.
Actually, it is written in the Bible that they confessed (Genesis
3:12-13) to the over-eating.
> A&E took something that didn't belong to them. That is called
> stealing. They also disobeyed their Creator. That was 2 strikes
> against them.
Our Creator's command to them was to not eat that which was more than
they needed (see above).
>>
Actually, it is written in the Bible that they confessed (Genesis
3:12-13) to the over-eating.
> A&E took something that didn't belong to them. That is called
> stealing. They also disobeyed their Creator. That was 2 strikes
> against them.
Our Creator's command to them was to not eat that which was more than
they needed (see above).
>>
>> Moreover, it is written at Genesis 3:5:
>>
>> "For GOD knows that when you **eat** from it your eyes will be opened,
>> and you will be like GOD, knowing good and evil."
>>
>> **Emphasis** again added.
>>
>>Therefore ...
>
>>
>> "For GOD knows that when you **eat** from it your eyes will be opened,
>> and you will be like GOD, knowing good and evil."
>>
>> **Emphasis** again added.
>>
>>Therefore ...
>
> They knew what evil was before they ate of the forbidden tree. It was
> evil to eat from that tree.
Actually, what is described in the Bible is that they knew only that
GOD told them not to eat that which was more than they needed.
> In what way does God know good and evil? God decides for Himself what
> is good and what is evil. So when they ate of the fruit, they were
> being like God, deciding for themselves what was good and bad.
Actually, what is written in the Bible is that only GOD is good
> evil to eat from that tree.
Actually, what is described in the Bible is that they knew only that
GOD told them not to eat that which was more than they needed.
> In what way does God know good and evil? God decides for Himself what
> is good and what is evil. So when they ate of the fruit, they were
> being like God, deciding for themselves what was good and bad.
(Matthew 19:17).
>>>> Again, for 10/19/20, here's how to stop sinning:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ
>>>>
>>>> "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- Holy
>>>> Spirit (referring to John 5:14)
>>>>
>>>> Source:
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/twdqZ5BAmXU/0kkDNAYvBQAJ
>>>>
>>>> Suffering the "Great Tribulation" would indeed be worse.
>>>>
>>>> As would becoming eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned as in the tragic
>>>> example of MichaelC who is being ever more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
>>>> GOD:
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/81-rVgEIwdU/mzVPeVdKDgAJ
>>>>
>>>> So let us not be a http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32)
>>>> Drumpf ( http://bit.ly/W_d_DJT_r ) or else we'll most certainly die a
>>>> http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:
>>>>
>>>> http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
>>
>> In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, James, also have a
>> healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> Just fine. How are you?
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/VCpuEQudr5Y/zwigcj4NBwAJ
Taking your "just fine" to mean "yes, you have a healthy appetite," I
remind you, James, that it's really Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) knowing
through our hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) that we're both being blessed
right now as it's written in the Gospels in red&white at Luke 6:21
**and** according to pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
"wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you are:
So now how are you ?
zeb...@windstream.net
Nov 8, 2020, 8:47:15 AM11/8/20
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>the dukester, American-American
zeb...@windstream.net
Nov 8, 2020, 9:14:30 AM11/8/20
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Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
>
>They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>to know from GOD.
himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>
>> Their bodies would have told them
>> when they should stop eating.
>
>Once they started eating the figs, it was too late to stop because the
>sin of gluttony happens from the outset of the eating (see Proverbs
>23:2).
>
>> We today are imperfect. Thus we have
>> cravings that A&E didn't have.
>
>It is written that our desires (aka cravings) are from GOD.
>
>Just as A&E sinned by choosing to follow their desires instead of
>following GOD, so can we sin, for GOD allows free will (aka free
>choice) to sin.
>
>>>
>>> Source:
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
>>>
>>>> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
>>>> to them: Gen 3:11,
>>>>
>>>> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
>>>
>>> **emphasis** added.
>>>
>>> This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
>>>
>>> "and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
>>>
>>> Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
>>> to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
>>
>> Murder of yourself, is still murder of a person.
>
>Actually, suicide is not murder as evident by those surviving
>attempted suicide not later being convicted of attempted murder.
everlasting.
>
>Moreover, it is described in the Bible that GOD helped Samson, His
>annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
>needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
killed in order to save mankind. As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
thousands of angels to come to my aid'. Had he done so, we would have
had no hope.
>
>GOD doesn't sin much less help us sin.
>
>> And it goes against
>> Jesus command to "Love your neighbor AS YOURSELF." (all caps mine)
>
>Samson was not his own neighbor.
>
>Moreover, it is written that our LORD Jesus says that if our eyes
>cause us to sin, better for us to pluck out our eyes, in order to stop
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>>>33>> http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
>>>
>>> In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, James, also have a
>>> healthy appetite too.
>>>
>>> So how are you ?
>>
>> Just fine. How are you?
>
>Taking your "just fine" to mean "yes, you have a healthy appetite," I
>remind you, James, that it's really Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) knowing
>through our hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) that we're both being blessed
>right now as it's written in the Gospels in red&white at Luke 6:21
>**and** according to pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
>appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
>"wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you are:
>
>So now how are you ?
Fine, but a little thirsty.
>>> In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, James, also have a
>>> healthy appetite too.
>>>
>>> So how are you ?
>>
>> Just fine. How are you?
>
>Taking your "just fine" to mean "yes, you have a healthy appetite," I
>remind you, James, that it's really Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) knowing
>through our hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) that we're both being blessed
>right now as it's written in the Gospels in red&white at Luke 6:21
>**and** according to pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
>appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
>"wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you are:
>
>So now how are you ?
duckg...@cox.net
Nov 8, 2020, 9:30:51 AM11/8/20
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2020 08:47:14 -0500, zeb...@windstream.net wrote:
>On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 07:00:27 -0600, duckg...@cox.net wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 07:45:52 -0500, zeb...@windstream.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 07:14:50 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>><disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>(Rev1:7) 11/06/20 Again here ...
>>>>
>>>>James wrote:
>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>>>>> never born:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam was created from dust:
Do you actually believe that? We do know, however, that all things come from
>On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 07:00:27 -0600, duckg...@cox.net wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 07:45:52 -0500, zeb...@windstream.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 07:14:50 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>><disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>(Rev1:7) 11/06/20 Again here ...
>>>>
>>>>James wrote:
>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>>>>> never born:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam was created from dust:
the stuff of the stars. Thus it is not an incorrect statement, if you
understand what it truly means...
>>>>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>>>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>>>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>>>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>>>>> more than they needed:
>>>>>
>>>>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>>>>> gluttony.
>>>>The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
>>But not the sin of gluttony. YOu continually fail to reflect scripture's
>>message for the jw mistake
just eating too much?
>>>Adam and Eve were created perfect. Their bodies would have told them
>>>when they should stop eating. We today are imperfect. Thus we have
>>>cravings that A&E didn't have.
>
>>OMG, this poor guy is still trying to bury himself in scripture mistakes.
>What Scripture 'mistakes' are you referring to?
Let's start with gluttony. Do you really think that God would condemn us for
>>OMG, this poor guy is still trying to bury himself in scripture mistakes.
>What Scripture 'mistakes' are you referring to?
eating too much?.
And do you really htink that Eve came from Adam's rib?
Do you not think the truth behind these things are far more significant than the
literal words?
the dukester, American-American
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 8, 2020, 10:33:07 AM11/8/20
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(Rev 1:7) 11/08/20 Again praying here ...
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/VCpuEQudr5Y/ugPJfL_pBAAJ
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/VCpuEQudr5Y/ugPJfL_pBAAJ
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 8, 2020, 11:20:19 AM11/8/20
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leaves upon realizing they were naked.
Therefore, it logically follows that what they ate were figs.
> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
the sin of gluttony.
>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>> to know from GOD.
>
> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
> God determines for
> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>>> Their bodies would have told them
>>> when they should stop eating.
>>
>> Once they started eating the figs, it was too late to stop because the
>> sin of gluttony happens from the outset of the eating (see Proverbs
>> 23:2).
>
> Again, in the Bible no mention of gluttony in the A&E situation.
figs is the sin of gluttony.
>>> We today are imperfect. Thus we have
>>> cravings that A&E didn't have.
>>
>> It is written that our desires (aka cravings) are from GOD.
>
> What Scripture is that?
>> Just as A&E sinned by choosing to follow their desires instead of
>> following GOD, so can we sin, for GOD allows free will (aka free
>> choice) to sin.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Source:
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
>>>>
>>>>> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
>>>>> to them: Gen 3:11,
>>>>>
>>>>> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
>>>>
>>>> **emphasis** added.
>>>>
>>>> This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
>>>>
>>>> "and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
>>>>
>>>> Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
>>>> to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
>>>
>>> Murder of yourself, is still murder of a person.
>>
>> Actually, suicide is not murder as evident by those surviving
>> attempted suicide not later being convicted of attempted murder.
>
> What the world thinks, is not that important. What God thinks is
> everlasting.
established." (Romans 13:1)
>> Moreover, it is described in the Bible that GOD helped Samson, His
>> annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
>> needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
>
> Self death for a good cause is not murder.
> Jesus allowed himself to be
> killed in order to save mankind.
murder.
> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
not murder.
> Had he done so, we would have
> had no hope.
>> GOD doesn't sin much less help us sin.
>>
>>> And it goes against
>>> Jesus command to "Love your neighbor AS YOURSELF." (all caps mine)
>>
>> Samson was not his own neighbor.
>>
>> Moreover, it is written that our LORD Jesus says that if our eyes
>> cause us to sin, better for us to pluck out our eyes, in order to stop
>>>>>> http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
>>>>
>>>> In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>>>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, James, also have a
>>>> healthy appetite too.
>>>>
>>>> So how are you ?
>>>
>>> Just fine. How are you?
>>
>> Taking your "just fine" to mean "yes, you have a healthy appetite," I
>> remind you, James, that it's really Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) knowing
>> through our hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) that we're both being blessed
>> right now as it's written in the Gospels in red&white at Luke 6:21
>> **and** according to pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
>> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
>>"wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you are:
>>
>> So now how are you ?
>
> Fine, but a little thirsty.
Again, I advise that you, James, really try to write that you're
>>>>
>>>> In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>>>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, James, also have a
>>>> healthy appetite too.
>>>>
>>>> So how are you ?
>>>
>>> Just fine. How are you?
>>
>> Taking your "just fine" to mean "yes, you have a healthy appetite," I
>> remind you, James, that it's really Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) knowing
>> through our hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) that we're both being blessed
>> right now as it's written in the Gospels in red&white at Luke 6:21
>> **and** according to pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
>> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
>>"wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you are:
>>
>> So now how are you ?
>
> Fine, but a little thirsty.
"wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you are:
So now again, how are you ?
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 9, 2020, 4:20:50 AM11/9/20
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(Rev1:7) 11/09/20 Again here ...
>> Actually, what is described in the Bible is that only GOD is good
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/VCpuEQudr5Y/zwb02PSyBwAJ
Again, I advise that you, James, really try to write that you're
> The Bible does not say what the fruit of that forbidden tree was.
It is described in the Bible that A&E covered themselves with fig
leaves upon realizing they were naked.
Therefore, it logically follows that what they ate were figs.
> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
the sin of gluttony.
It is described in the Bible that A&E covered themselves with fig
leaves upon realizing they were naked.
Therefore, it logically follows that what they ate were figs.
> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
the sin of gluttony.
>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>> to know from GOD.
>
>> to know from GOD.
>
> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
> God determines for
> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
> God determines for
> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>>> Their bodies would have told them
>>> when they should stop eating.
>>
>> Once they started eating the figs, it was too late to stop because the
>> sin of gluttony happens from the outset of the eating (see Proverbs
>> 23:2).
>
>>> when they should stop eating.
>>
>> Once they started eating the figs, it was too late to stop because the
>> sin of gluttony happens from the outset of the eating (see Proverbs
>> 23:2).
>
> Again, in the Bible no mention of gluttony in the A&E situation.
Again, it logically follows that the sin that happens from A&E eating
figs is the sin of gluttony.
Again, it logically follows that the sin that happens from A&E eating
figs is the sin of gluttony.
>>> We today are imperfect. Thus we have
>>> cravings that A&E didn't have.
>>
>> It is written that our desires (aka cravings) are from GOD.
>
>>> cravings that A&E didn't have.
>>
>> It is written that our desires (aka cravings) are from GOD.
>
> What Scripture is that?
Psalm 37:4
Psalm 37:4
>> Just as A&E sinned by choosing to follow their desires instead of
>> following GOD, so can we sin, for GOD allows free will (aka free
>> choice) to sin.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Source:
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
>>>>
>>>>> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
>>>>> to them: Gen 3:11,
>>>>>
>>>>> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
>>>>
>>>> **emphasis** added.
>>>>
>>>> This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
>>>>
>>>> "and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
>>>>
>>>> Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
>>>> to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
>>>
>>> Murder of yourself, is still murder of a person.
>>
>> Actually, suicide is not murder as evident by those surviving
>> attempted suicide not later being convicted of attempted murder.
>
>> following GOD, so can we sin, for GOD allows free will (aka free
>> choice) to sin.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Source:
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
>>>>
>>>>> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
>>>>> to them: Gen 3:11,
>>>>>
>>>>> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
>>>>
>>>> **emphasis** added.
>>>>
>>>> This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
>>>>
>>>> "and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
>>>>
>>>> Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
>>>> to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
>>>
>>> Murder of yourself, is still murder of a person.
>>
>> Actually, suicide is not murder as evident by those surviving
>> attempted suicide not later being convicted of attempted murder.
>
> What the world thinks, is not that important. What God thinks is
> everlasting.
It is written that "there is no authority except that which GOD has
established." (Romans 13:1)
> everlasting.
It is written that "there is no authority except that which GOD has
established." (Romans 13:1)
>> Moreover, it is described in the Bible that GOD helped Samson, His
>> annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
>> needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
>
>> annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
>> needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
>
> Self death for a good cause is not murder.
Suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not adultery.
> Jesus allowed himself to be
> killed in order to save mankind.
Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
murder.
> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
not murder.
> Had he done so, we would have
> had no hope.
Had He done so, we would not know His greater (John 15:13) love.
Suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not adultery.
> Jesus allowed himself to be
> killed in order to save mankind.
Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
murder.
> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
not murder.
> Had he done so, we would have
> had no hope.
Had He done so, we would not know His greater (John 15:13) love.
>> GOD doesn't sin much less help us sin.
>>
>>> And it goes against
>>> Jesus command to "Love your neighbor AS YOURSELF." (all caps mine)
>>
>> Samson was not his own neighbor.
>>
>> Moreover, it is written that our LORD Jesus says that if our eyes
>> cause us to sin, better for us to pluck out our eyes, in order to stop
>> sinning so that we can enter the Kingdom of GOD.
>>
>>> And it goes against
>>> Jesus command to "Love your neighbor AS YOURSELF." (all caps mine)
>>
>> Samson was not his own neighbor.
>>
>> Moreover, it is written that our LORD Jesus says that if our eyes
>> cause us to sin, better for us to pluck out our eyes, in order to stop
>> (Matthew 19:17).
>>
>>>>>> Again, for 10/19/20, here's how to stop sinning:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- Holy
>>>>>> Spirit (referring to John 5:14)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/twdqZ5BAmXU/0kkDNAYvBQAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suffering the "Great Tribulation" would indeed be worse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As would becoming eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned as in the tragic
>>>>>> example of MichaelC who is being ever more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
>>>>>> GOD:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/81-rVgEIwdU/mzVPeVdKDgAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So let us not be a http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32)
>>>>>> Drumpf ( http://bit.ly/W_d_DJT_r ) or else we'll most certainly die a
>>>>>> http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
>>>>
>>>> In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>>>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, James, also have a
>>>> healthy appetite too.
>>>>
>>>> So how are you ?
>>>
>>> Just fine. How are you?
>>
>>
>>>>>> Again, for 10/19/20, here's how to stop sinning:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- Holy
>>>>>> Spirit (referring to John 5:14)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/twdqZ5BAmXU/0kkDNAYvBQAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suffering the "Great Tribulation" would indeed be worse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As would becoming eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned as in the tragic
>>>>>> example of MichaelC who is being ever more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
>>>>>> GOD:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/81-rVgEIwdU/mzVPeVdKDgAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So let us not be a http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32)
>>>>>> Drumpf ( http://bit.ly/W_d_DJT_r ) or else we'll most certainly die a
>>>>>> http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
>>>>
>>>> In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>>>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, James, also have a
>>>> healthy appetite too.
>>>>
>>>> So how are you ?
>>>
>>> Just fine. How are you?
>>
>> Taking your "just fine" to mean "yes, you have a healthy appetite," I
>> remind you, James, that it's really Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) knowing
>> through our hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) that we're both being blessed
>> right now as it's written in the Gospels in red&white at Luke 6:21
>> **and** according to pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
>> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
>>"wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you are:
>>
>> So now how are you ?
>
>> remind you, James, that it's really Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) knowing
>> through our hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) that we're both being blessed
>> right now as it's written in the Gospels in red&white at Luke 6:21
>> **and** according to pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
>> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
>>"wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you are:
>>
>> So now how are you ?
>
> Fine, but a little thirsty.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/VCpuEQudr5Y/zwb02PSyBwAJ
Again, I advise that you, James, really try to write that you're
"wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you are:
So now again, how are you ?
duckg...@cox.net
Nov 9, 2020, 9:06:58 AM11/9/20
to
I'm still waiting on you to declare how "overeating" is a sin against God.
Please, no JW make ups.
the dukester, American-American
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 9, 2020, 9:46:56 AM11/9/20
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(Rev 1:7) 11/09/20 Again praying here ...
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/VCpuEQudr5Y/ugPJfL_pBAAJ
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/VCpuEQudr5Y/ugPJfL_pBAAJ
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 10, 2020, 7:45:44 AM11/10/20
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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zeb...@windstream.net
Nov 15, 2020, 10:06:00 AM11/15/20
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>
>> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
>
>It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
>the sin of gluttony.
was all their sin, and all their doings.
>
>>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>>> to know from GOD.
>>
>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>
>It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>
>> God determines for
>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>
>The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
they also called him a drunkard.
>
>>>> Their bodies would have told them
>>>> when they should stop eating.
>>>
>>> Once they started eating the figs, it was too late to stop because the
>>> sin of gluttony happens from the outset of the eating (see Proverbs
>>> 23:2).
>>
>> Again, in the Bible no mention of gluttony in the A&E situation.
>
>Again, it logically follows that the sin that happens from A&E eating
>figs is the sin of gluttony.
>
>>>> We today are imperfect. Thus we have
>>>> cravings that A&E didn't have.
>>>
>>> It is written that our desires (aka cravings) are from GOD.
>>
>> What Scripture is that?
>
>Psalm 37:4
-- Revised Standard
Psalms 37:4 Take delight in the Lord, and he will give you the
desires of your heart.
The setting here is positive things. (delight, heart desires) So if a
person had the desire to rape a women, that is not from God. For God
does not tempt people with such desires. James 1:13-15,
"13 When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For
with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone.
14 But each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own
desire. 15 Then the desire, when it has become fertile, gives birth to
sin; in turn sin, when it has been carried out, brings forth death."
>
>>> Just as A&E sinned by choosing to follow their desires instead of
>>> following GOD, so can we sin, for GOD allows free will (aka free
>>> choice) to sin.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Source:
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
>>>>>
>>>>>> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
>>>>>> to them: Gen 3:11,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
>>>>>
>>>>> **emphasis** added.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
>>>>>
>>>>> "and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
>>>>>
>>>>> Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
>>>>> to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
>>>>
>>>> Murder of yourself, is still murder of a person.
>>>
>>> Actually, suicide is not murder as evident by those surviving
>>> attempted suicide not later being convicted of attempted murder.
>>
>> What the world thinks, is not that important. What God thinks is
>> everlasting.
>
>It is written that "there is no authority except that which GOD has
>established." (Romans 13:1)
But those "authorities" are not absolute. If they break God's
>>> Just as A&E sinned by choosing to follow their desires instead of
>>> following GOD, so can we sin, for GOD allows free will (aka free
>>> choice) to sin.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Source:
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
>>>>>
>>>>>> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
>>>>>> to them: Gen 3:11,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
>>>>>
>>>>> **emphasis** added.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
>>>>>
>>>>> "and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
>>>>>
>>>>> Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
>>>>> to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
>>>>
>>>> Murder of yourself, is still murder of a person.
>>>
>>> Actually, suicide is not murder as evident by those surviving
>>> attempted suicide not later being convicted of attempted murder.
>>
>> What the world thinks, is not that important. What God thinks is
>> everlasting.
>
>It is written that "there is no authority except that which GOD has
>established." (Romans 13:1)
commands, they are not to be followed:
-- Revised Standard
Acts 5:29 But Peter and the apostles answered, "We must obey God
rather than men.
>
>>> Moreover, it is described in the Bible that GOD helped Samson, His
>>> annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
>>> needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
>>
>> Self death for a good cause is not murder.
>
>Suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not adultery.
>
themselves. Is that not murdering our own body for no good cause.?
>> Jesus allowed himself to be
>> killed in order to save mankind.
>
>Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>murder.
ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
36:9)
You are correct. By DEFINITION, suicide is not murder. Murder takes at
least two people; the victim and the killer.
But the key question is, what does God think of suicide?
>
>> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
>> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
>
>Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
>not murder.
>
>> Had he done so, we would have
>> had no hope.
>
>Had He done so, we would not know His greater (John 15:13) love.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 15, 2020, 10:58:46 AM11/15/20
to
significant places.
Therefore, discerning that the fruit from the tree of knowledge were
figs is not a guess here:
"The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Holy Spirit
(referring to Genesis 3:12-13)
>>> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
>>
>> It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
>> the sin of gluttony.
>
> No, what logically follows is that they disobeyed God's command.
of gluttony.
> That
> was all their sin, and all their doings.
>>>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>
>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>
>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>
> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
liars.
>>
>>> God determines for
>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>
>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>
> Yes, they also accused Jesus as being in league with the Devil.
What is written is that the devil is cursed to be terribly **not**
>>
>>> God determines for
>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>
>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>
> Yes, they also accused Jesus as being in league with the Devil.
hungry for food; now only able to eat dust, for the rest of his life,
because of deceiving Eve to commit gluttony.
> And
> they also called him a drunkard.
>>
>>>>> Their bodies would have told them
>>>>> when they should stop eating.
>>>>
>>>> Once they started eating the figs, it was too late to stop because the
>>>> sin of gluttony happens from the outset of the eating (see Proverbs
>>>> 23:2).
>>>
>>> Again, in the Bible no mention of gluttony in the A&E situation.
>>
>> Again, it logically follows that the sin that happens from A&E eating
>> figs is the sin of gluttony.
>
> Do you feel guilty when you eat a pizza?
http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) for **food** just like our risen
LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
>>
>>>>> We today are imperfect. Thus we have
>>>>> cravings that A&E didn't have.
>>>>
>>>> It is written that our desires (aka cravings) are from GOD.
>>>
>>> What Scripture is that?
>>
>> Psalm 37:4
>
> Thank You, which reads,
>
> -- Revised Standard
> Psalms 37:4 Take delight in the Lord, and he will give you the
**emphasis** added.
> The setting here is positive things. (delight, heart desires)
15:19) thoughts.
> So if a
> person had the desire to rape a women, that is not from God. For God
> does not tempt people with such desires. James 1:13-15,
>
> "13 When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For
> with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone.
> 14 But each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own
> desire. 15 Then the desire, when it has become fertile, gives birth to
> sin; in turn sin, when it has been carried out, brings forth death."
(Matthew 26:41) into temptation if we don't watch (aka
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard our heart per Proverbs 4:23 and Matthew
15:19) and pray (for much more Holy Spirit per Luke 11:13).
>>>> Moreover, it is described in the Bible that GOD helped Samson, His
>>>> annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
>>>> needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
>>>
>>> Self death for a good cause is not murder.
>>
>> Suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not adultery.
>>
>
> When the stock market crashed, many who lost a lot of money killed
> themselves. Is that not murdering our own body for no good cause.?
adultery.
>>> Jesus allowed himself to be
>>> killed in order to save mankind.
>>
>> Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>> murder.
>
> Jehovah considers all life sacred. Jesus even implied we should LOVE
> ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
> 36:9)
evident by the lake of fire being prepared for them.
> You are correct. By DEFINITION, suicide is not murder. Murder takes at
> least two people; the victim and the killer.
>
> But the key question is, what does God think of suicide?
for his love of money.
Later, the same happened to Ananias and Sapphira.
>>> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
>>> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
>>
>> Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
>> not murder.
>
> Only what God thinks about it, counts for true Christians.
thereby angering Prophet Jonah, when all it's inhabitants, including
their animals, stopped committing the sin of gluttony.
>>
>>> Had he done so, we would have
>>> had no hope.
>>
>> Had He done so, we would not know His greater (John 15:13) love.
>
> True.
you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you
are:
So now again, how are you ?
are:
So now again, how are you ?
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
HeartDoc Andrew <><
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 16, 2020, 3:16:45 AM11/16/20
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(Rev1:7) 11/16/20 Again here ...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 17, 2020, 5:43:09 AM11/17/20
to
(Rev1:7) 11/17/20 Again here ...
James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> (Rev1:7) 11/15/20 Again here ...
(referring to Genesis 3:12-13)
>>> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
>>
>> It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
>> the sin of gluttony.
>
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/VCpuEQudr5Y/m/1ltPFMZJAgAJ
Again, I really advise that you, James, **really** try to write that
James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> It might have been cumquats. Your guess is as good as mine.
While cumquats are not named in the Bible, figs are named in multiple
significant places.
Therefore, discerning that the fruit from the tree of knowledge were
figs is not a guess here:
"The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Holy Spirit
While cumquats are not named in the Bible, figs are named in multiple
significant places.
Therefore, discerning that the fruit from the tree of knowledge were
figs is not a guess here:
(referring to Genesis 3:12-13)
>>> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
>>
>> It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
>> the sin of gluttony.
>
> No, what logically follows is that they disobeyed God's command.
If that were true, they would have confessed to disobedience instead
of gluttony.
> That
> was all their sin, and all their doings.
Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
If that were true, they would have confessed to disobedience instead
of gluttony.
> That
> was all their sin, and all their doings.
Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
>>>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>
>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>
>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>
>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>
>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>
>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>
> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
What is written is that satan is the father of all lies instead of all
liars.
>>
What is written is that satan is the father of all lies instead of all
liars.
>>
>>> God determines for
>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>
>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>
>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>
>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>
> Yes, they also accused Jesus as being in league with the Devil.
What is written is that the devil is cursed to be terribly **not**
hungry for food; now only able to eat dust, for the rest of his life,
because of deceiving Eve to commit gluttony.
> And
> they also called him a drunkard.
A drunkard commits gluttony with fermented grape juice.
>>
What is written is that the devil is cursed to be terribly **not**
hungry for food; now only able to eat dust, for the rest of his life,
because of deceiving Eve to commit gluttony.
> And
> they also called him a drunkard.
A drunkard commits gluttony with fermented grape juice.
>>
>>>>> Their bodies would have told them
>>>>> when they should stop eating.
>>>>
>>>> Once they started eating the figs, it was too late to stop because the
>>>> sin of gluttony happens from the outset of the eating (see Proverbs
>>>> 23:2).
>>>
>>> Again, in the Bible no mention of gluttony in the A&E situation.
>>
>> Again, it logically follows that the sin that happens from A&E eating
>> figs is the sin of gluttony.
>
>>>>> when they should stop eating.
>>>>
>>>> Once they started eating the figs, it was too late to stop because the
>>>> sin of gluttony happens from the outset of the eating (see Proverbs
>>>> 23:2).
>>>
>>> Again, in the Bible no mention of gluttony in the A&E situation.
>>
>> Again, it logically follows that the sin that happens from A&E eating
>> figs is the sin of gluttony.
>
> Do you feel guilty when you eat a pizza?
I choose instead to always be wonderfully hungry (
http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) for **food** just like our risen
LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
>>
I choose instead to always be wonderfully hungry (
http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) for **food** just like our risen
LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
>>
>>>>> We today are imperfect. Thus we have
>>>>> cravings that A&E didn't have.
>>>>
>>>> It is written that our desires (aka cravings) are from GOD.
>>>
>>> What Scripture is that?
>>
>> Psalm 37:4
>
>>>>> cravings that A&E didn't have.
>>>>
>>>> It is written that our desires (aka cravings) are from GOD.
>>>
>>> What Scripture is that?
>>
>> Psalm 37:4
>
> Thank You, which reads,
>
> -- Revised Standard
> Psalms 37:4 Take delight in the Lord, and he will give you the
> **desires** of your heart.
**emphasis** added.
> The setting here is positive things. (delight, heart desires)
Actually, it is written that the heart is the source of evil (Matthew
15:19) thoughts.
> So if a
> person had the desire to rape a women, that is not from God. For God
> does not tempt people with such desires. James 1:13-15,
>
> "13 When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For
> with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone.
> 14 But each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own
> desire. 15 Then the desire, when it has become fertile, gives birth to
> sin; in turn sin, when it has been carried out, brings forth death."
It is also written that our LORD Jesus admonishes that we'd fall
(Matthew 26:41) into temptation if we don't watch (aka
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard our heart per Proverbs 4:23 and Matthew
15:19) and pray (for much more Holy Spirit per Luke 11:13).
>
> -- Revised Standard
> Psalms 37:4 Take delight in the Lord, and he will give you the
> **desires** of your heart.
**emphasis** added.
> The setting here is positive things. (delight, heart desires)
Actually, it is written that the heart is the source of evil (Matthew
15:19) thoughts.
> So if a
> person had the desire to rape a women, that is not from God. For God
> does not tempt people with such desires. James 1:13-15,
>
> "13 When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For
> with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone.
> 14 But each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own
> desire. 15 Then the desire, when it has become fertile, gives birth to
> sin; in turn sin, when it has been carried out, brings forth death."
It is also written that our LORD Jesus admonishes that we'd fall
(Matthew 26:41) into temptation if we don't watch (aka
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard our heart per Proverbs 4:23 and Matthew
15:19) and pray (for much more Holy Spirit per Luke 11:13).
>>>> Just as A&E sinned by choosing to follow their desires instead of
>>>> following GOD, so can we sin, for GOD allows free will (aka free
>>>> choice) to sin.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
>>>>>>> to them: Gen 3:11,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **emphasis** added.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
>>>>>> to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Murder of yourself, is still murder of a person.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, suicide is not murder as evident by those surviving
>>>> attempted suicide not later being convicted of attempted murder.
>>>
>>> What the world thinks, is not that important. What God thinks is
>>> everlasting.
>>
>> It is written that "there is no authority except that which GOD has
>> established." (Romans 13:1)
>
>>>> following GOD, so can we sin, for GOD allows free will (aka free
>>>> choice) to sin.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
>>>>>>> to them: Gen 3:11,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **emphasis** added.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
>>>>>> to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Murder of yourself, is still murder of a person.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, suicide is not murder as evident by those surviving
>>>> attempted suicide not later being convicted of attempted murder.
>>>
>>> What the world thinks, is not that important. What God thinks is
>>> everlasting.
>>
>> It is written that "there is no authority except that which GOD has
>> established." (Romans 13:1)
>
> But those "authorities" are not absolute. If they break God's
> commands, they are not to be followed:
>
> -- Revised Standard
> Acts 5:29 But Peter and the apostles answered, "We must obey God
> rather than men.
It is not written that GOD commands anyone to not commit suicide.
> commands, they are not to be followed:
>
> -- Revised Standard
> Acts 5:29 But Peter and the apostles answered, "We must obey God
> rather than men.
It is not written that GOD commands anyone to not commit suicide.
>>>> Moreover, it is described in the Bible that GOD helped Samson, His
>>>> annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
>>>> needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
>>>
>>> Self death for a good cause is not murder.
>>
>> Suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not adultery.
>>
>
>>>> annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
>>>> needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
>>>
>>> Self death for a good cause is not murder.
>>
>> Suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not adultery.
>>
>
> When the stock market crashed, many who lost a lot of money killed
> themselves. Is that not murdering our own body for no good cause.?
Again, suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not
> themselves. Is that not murdering our own body for no good cause.?
adultery.
>>> Jesus allowed himself to be
>>> killed in order to save mankind.
>>
>> Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>> murder.
>
>>> Jesus allowed himself to be
>>> killed in order to save mankind.
>>
>> Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>> murder.
>
> Jehovah considers all life sacred. Jesus even implied we should LOVE
> ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
> 36:9)
The lives of the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned are not sacred as
evident by the lake of fire being prepared for them.
> You are correct. By DEFINITION, suicide is not murder. Murder takes at
> least two people; the victim and the killer.
>
> But the key question is, what does God think of suicide?
Judas Iscariot fell from GOD's grace not for committing suicide but
for his love of money.
Later, the same happened to Ananias and Sapphira.
> ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
> 36:9)
The lives of the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned are not sacred as
evident by the lake of fire being prepared for them.
> You are correct. By DEFINITION, suicide is not murder. Murder takes at
> least two people; the victim and the killer.
>
> But the key question is, what does God think of suicide?
Judas Iscariot fell from GOD's grace not for committing suicide but
for his love of money.
Later, the same happened to Ananias and Sapphira.
>>> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
>>> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
>>
>> Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
>> not murder.
>
>>> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
>>
>> Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
>> not murder.
>
> Only what God thinks about it, counts for true Christians.
It is written that GOD changed His mind about destroying Niniveh,
thereby angering Prophet Jonah, when all it's inhabitants, including
their animals, stopped committing the sin of gluttony.
>>
It is written that GOD changed His mind about destroying Niniveh,
thereby angering Prophet Jonah, when all it's inhabitants, including
their animals, stopped committing the sin of gluttony.
>>
>>> Had he done so, we would have
>>> had no hope.
>>
>> Had He done so, we would not know His greater (John 15:13) love.
>
>>> had no hope.
>>
>> Had He done so, we would not know His greater (John 15:13) love.
>
> Always hungering for Bible truths.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/VCpuEQudr5Y/m/1ltPFMZJAgAJ
Again, I really advise that you, James, **really** try to write that
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 18, 2020, 4:35:47 AM11/18/20
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(Rev1:7) 11/18/20 Again here ...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 19, 2020, 5:49:20 AM11/19/20
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(Rev1:7) 11/19/20 Again here ...
zeb...@windstream.net
Nov 19, 2020, 8:49:35 AM11/19/20
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places, doesn't mean that was the food from the tree in the middle of
the garden. There were multiple trees, unlikely they were all fig
trees. So it could be any edible fruit bearing tree.
>
>>>> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
>>>
>>> It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
>>> the sin of gluttony.
>>
>> No, what logically follows is that they disobeyed God's command.
>
>If that were true, they would have confessed to disobedience instead
>of gluttony.
-- Living Bible
Romans 5:19 Adam caused many to be sinners because he disobeyed God,
and Christ caused many to be made acceptable to God because he obeyed.
>
>> That
>> was all their sin, and all their doings.
>
>Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
>
>>>>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>>
>>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>>
>>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>>
>> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
>
>What is written is that satan is the father of all lies instead of all
>liars.
is your father?
>
>>>
>>>> God determines for
>>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>>
>>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>>
>> Yes, they also accused Jesus as being in league with the Devil.
>
>What is written is that the devil is cursed to be terribly **not**
>hungry for food; now only able to eat dust, for the rest of his life,
>because of deceiving Eve to commit gluttony.
committed Bulimia. The Bible says Adam sinned by disobedience, thus so
did Eve since he did the same thing she did.
>
>> And
>> they also called him a drunkard.
>
>A drunkard commits gluttony with fermented grape juice.
"Gluttony definition is - excess in eating or drinking."
Thus they were accusing Jesus of gluttony.
the heart, but also the good things.
-- Revised Standard
Matthew 19:19 Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your
neighbor as yourself."
>
>>>>> Moreover, it is described in the Bible that GOD helped Samson, His
>>>>> annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
>>>>> needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
>>>>
>>>> Self death for a good cause is not murder.
>>>
>>> Suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not adultery.
>>>
>>
>> When the stock market crashed, many who lost a lot of money killed
>> themselves. Is that not murdering our own body for no good cause.?
>
>Again, suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not
>adultery.
least 2 people involved in murder, not one.
But Jesus COMBINES one's neighbor with one's self. Thus if you kill
your neighbor, it is murder. If you kill yourself, it is also murder
since the two are combined. BUT THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.
I recall, the Catholic Church considered suicide a mortal sin
punishable by hellfire, same as murder.
But in a murder case, the murderer can repent, and maybe get a
reprieve. The suicider has no chance of repentance.
>
>>>> Jesus allowed himself to be
>>>> killed in order to save mankind.
>>>
>>> Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>>> murder.
>>
>> Jehovah considers all life sacred. Jesus even implied we should LOVE
>> ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
>> 36:9)
>
>The lives of the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned are not sacred as
>evident by the lake of fire being prepared for them.
>
>> You are correct. By DEFINITION, suicide is not murder. Murder takes at
>> least two people; the victim and the killer.
>>
>> But the key question is, what does God think of suicide?
>
>Judas Iscariot fell from GOD's grace not for committing suicide but
>for his love of money.
>
>Later, the same happened to Ananias and Sapphira.
>
>>>> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
>>>> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
>>>
>>> Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
>>> not murder.
>>
>> Only what God thinks about it, counts for true Christians.
>
>It is written that GOD changed His mind about destroying Niniveh,
>thereby angering Prophet Jonah, when all it's inhabitants, including
>their animals, stopped committing the sin of gluttony.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 19, 2020, 10:14:13 AM11/19/20
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(Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, is not a guess.
Instead, it is receiving thoughts from the Holy Spirit instead of from
the heart (Matthew 15:19).
> Just because figs are mentioned in a few
> places, doesn't mean that was the food from the tree in the middle of
> the garden.
referring to Genesis 3:12-13)
> There were multiple trees, unlikely they were all fig
> trees. So it could be any edible fruit bearing tree.
significant places in the Bible is because they are the fruit from the
tree of knowledge.
>>>>> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
>>>>
>>>> It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
>>>> the sin of gluttony.
>>>
>>> No, what logically follows is that they disobeyed God's command.
>>
>> If that were true, they would have confessed to disobedience instead
>> of gluttony.
>
> Paul tells us what it is:
>
> -- Living Bible
> Romans 5:19 Adam caused many to be sinners because he disobeyed God,
> and Christ caused many to be made acceptable to God because he obeyed.
Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name Adam's sin.
Moreover, the fact that GOD forgave A&E as evident by His making
clothes for them after their confessing to their sin of gluttony means
that indeed the sin they committed was most definitely gluttony.
"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us
our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)
>>> That
>>> was all their sin, and all their doings.
>>
>> Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
>
> See Rom 5:19.
Adam's sin.
>>>>>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>>>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>>>
>>>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>>>
>>>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>>>
>>> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
>>
>> What is written is that satan is the father of all lies instead of all
>> liars.
>
> Yes that is what it literally says. So if you are a constant liar, who
> is your father?
However, if you unwisely choose to blaspheme against (Mark 3:29) the
Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth, then you become a child of
the devil, who does enter into your heart (Matthew 15:19), just as he
did enter Simon Peter and later, Judas Iscariot, if you do not
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) your heart.
Indeed, it is the devil in your heart, who prevents you from replying
appropriately to being greeted here by someone who is wonderfully
hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy Spirit, Who
causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger.
>>>>> God determines for
>>>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>>>
>>>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>>>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>>>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>>>
>>> Yes, they also accused Jesus as being in league with the Devil.
>>
>> What is written is that the devil is cursed to be terribly **not**
>> hungry for food; now only able to eat dust, for the rest of his life,
>> because of deceiving Eve to commit gluttony.
>
> The Bible doesn't say she committed gluttony.
while blaming the devil for causing her to do it.
> You might well say she
> committed Bulimia.
gluttony.
> The Bible says Adam sinned by disobedience, thus so
> did Eve since he did the same thing she did.
Instead, there is a sin called gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).
>>> And
>>> they also called him a drunkard.
>>
>> A drunkard commits gluttony with fermented grape juice.
>
> Let's see the definition of gluttony:
>
> "Gluttony definition is - excess in eating or drinking."
>
> Thus they were accusing Jesus of gluttony.
that it's described in the Bible that of all the sins (idolatry,
theft, murder, adultery, etc) that the Pharisees could falsely accuse
our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
19:17.
Moreover, Jeremiah 17:9 makes it clear why we must
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) the heart (Matthew 15:19)
suicide.
Moreover, if you kill yourself, you prevent yourself from killing your
neighbor so that indeed "You shall love your neighbor as yourself
(before you killed yourself)."
>>>>>> Moreover, it is described in the Bible that GOD helped Samson, His
>>>>>> annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
>>>>>> needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
>>>>>
>>>>> Self death for a good cause is not murder.
>>>>
>>>> Suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not adultery.
>>>>
>>>
>>> When the stock market crashed, many who lost a lot of money killed
>>> themselves. Is that not murdering our own body for no good cause.?
>>
>> Again, suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not
>> adultery.
>
> You are right by the English definition of "murder". It is always at
> least 2 people involved in murder, not one.
>
> But Jesus COMBINES one's neighbor with one's self. Thus if you kill
> your neighbor, it is murder. If you kill yourself, it is also murder
> since the two are combined. BUT THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.
> I recall, the Catholic Church considered suicide a mortal sin
> punishable by hellfire, same as murder.
>
> But in a murder case, the murderer can repent, and maybe get a
> reprieve. The suicider has no chance of repentance.
neighbor so that indeed "You shall love your neighbor as yourself
(before you killed yourself)."
Moreover, the "suicider" has repented as evident by their no longer
committing the sin of gluttony.
>>>>> Jesus allowed himself to be
>>>>> killed in order to save mankind.
>>>>
>>>> Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>>>> murder.
>>>
>>> Jehovah considers all life sacred. Jesus even implied we should LOVE
>>> ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
>>> 36:9)
>>
>> The lives of the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned are not sacred as
>> evident by the lake of fire being prepared for them.
>
> Is that a literal lake of fire? Or symbolic?
It is as literal as the "KING of kings and LORD of lords" written at
>>>>> killed in order to save mankind.
>>>>
>>>> Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>>>> murder.
>>>
>>> Jehovah considers all life sacred. Jesus even implied we should LOVE
>>> ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
>>> 36:9)
>>
>> The lives of the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned are not sacred as
>> evident by the lake of fire being prepared for them.
>
> Is that a literal lake of fire? Or symbolic?
Revelation 19:16.
Also according to Revelation, those who reduce/minimize that which is
written in Revelation will have less reward in Heaven.
>>> You are correct. By DEFINITION, suicide is not murder. Murder takes at
>>> least two people; the victim and the killer.
>>>
>>> But the key question is, what does God think of suicide?
>>
>> Judas Iscariot fell from GOD's grace not for committing suicide but
>> for his love of money.
>
> Actually, it should be for both.
>>
>> Later, the same happened to Ananias and Sapphira.
>>
>>>>> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
>>>>> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
>>>>
>>>> Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
>>>> not murder.
>>>
>>> Only what God thinks about it, counts for true Christians.
>>
>> It is written that GOD changed His mind about destroying Niniveh,
>> thereby angering Prophet Jonah, when all it's inhabitants, including
>> their animals, stopped committing the sin of gluttony.
>
> Animals do not commit sins.
For it is written that the wages of sin is death.
> They go by their God-given instincts.
to write that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established
here that you are:
So now again, how are you ?
here that you are:
So now again, how are you ?
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
HeartDoc Andrew <><
Lucifer
Nov 19, 2020, 7:50:19 PM11/19/20
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 08:49:34 -0500, zeb...@windstream.net wrote:
>Paul tells us what it is:
>
>-- Living Bible
>Romans 5:19 Adam caused many to be sinners because he disobeyed God,
>and Christ caused many to be made acceptable to God because he obeyed.
Romans 5:19
>Paul tells us what it is:
>
>-- Living Bible
>Romans 5:19 Adam caused many to be sinners because he disobeyed God,
>and Christ caused many to be made acceptable to God because he obeyed.
New International Version
For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made
sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be
made righteous.
Romans 5:19 blames God for all our troubles and says only God can
undo his errors.
>>>>>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>>>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>>>
>>>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>>>
>>>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>>>
>>> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
>>
>>What is written is that satan is the father of all lies instead of all
>>liars.
>
>Yes that is what it literally says. So if you are a constant liar, who
>is your father?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 19, 2020, 8:15:39 PM11/19/20
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(Rev1:7) 11/19/20 Lucifer tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/sIUAMh1z0_U/g95u5pkmBQAJ
Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ
"Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
ever more cursed by GOD."
Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
threads:
(1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
Example of being wonderfully hungry;"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI%5B1-25%5D
(2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M
(3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM
(4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
now;'"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM
(5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ
... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ
Laus DEO !
While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO ! ! !
Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ
<begin trichotomy>
(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).
(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.
(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.
<end trichotomy>
Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com
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someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ
>Shame on andrew, look at his red face.
LIE.
The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
color of my face red for those who can see me.
>He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:
>
>'14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'
Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.
That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
would've been no reference to "now."
Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
Scripture.
Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
hunger.
It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
eat food "now."
No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."
Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
instead of spiritual.
All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to
unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
than ever.
Laus DEO !
+++
someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
(in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)
>Psalms
>81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
>open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.
Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.
Laus DEO !
>Proverbs
>13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of
>the wicked is in need.
Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
(Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
satiated).
>Joel
>2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
>the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
>people shall never be ashamed.
Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
(Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.
Laus DEO ! !
>Psalms
>107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.
Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
full) is evil.
>Acts
>14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by
>giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
>your hearts with food and gladness."
In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ
+++
> someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ
>> Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:
Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10
>> John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing
>> status. He includes himself in that status.
John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
think that Greek grammar is relevant here.
>> 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
>> not in us.
>>
>> 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
>> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>
>> 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is
>> not in us.
John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:
"Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)
And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
cognitive deficits, is really worse.
Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
(John 5:14):
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ
While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO ! ! !
Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.
Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html
Again, this is done ...
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://bit.ly/HeartVAT from around the heart
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/sIUAMh1z0_U/g95u5pkmBQAJ
Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ
"Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
ever more cursed by GOD."
Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
threads:
(1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
Example of being wonderfully hungry;"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI%5B1-25%5D
(2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M
(3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM
(4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
now;'"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM
(5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ
... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ
Laus DEO !
While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO ! ! !
Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ
<begin trichotomy>
(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).
(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.
(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.
<end trichotomy>
Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com
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someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ
>Shame on andrew, look at his red face.
LIE.
The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
color of my face red for those who can see me.
>He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:
>
>'14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'
Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.
That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
would've been no reference to "now."
Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
Scripture.
Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
hunger.
It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
eat food "now."
No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."
Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
instead of spiritual.
All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to
unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
than ever.
Laus DEO !
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someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
(in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)
>Psalms
>81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
>open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.
Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.
Laus DEO !
>Proverbs
>13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of
>the wicked is in need.
Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
(Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
satiated).
>Joel
>2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
>the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
>people shall never be ashamed.
Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
(Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.
Laus DEO ! !
>Psalms
>107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.
Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
full) is evil.
>Acts
>14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by
>giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
>your hearts with food and gladness."
In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ
+++
> someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...
>>
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ
>> Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:
Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10
>> John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing
>> status. He includes himself in that status.
John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
think that Greek grammar is relevant here.
>> 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
>> not in us.
>>
>> 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
>> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>
>> 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is
>> not in us.
John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:
"Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)
And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
cognitive deficits, is really worse.
Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
(John 5:14):
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ
While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO ! ! !
Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.
Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html
Again, this is done ...
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://bit.ly/HeartVAT from around the heart
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 20, 2020, 5:36:16 AM11/20/20
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(Rev1:7) 11/20/20 Again here ...
tree of knowledge.
>>>>> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
>>>>
>>>> It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
>>>> the sin of gluttony.
>>>
>>> No, what logically follows is that they disobeyed God's command.
>>
>> If that were true, they would have confessed to disobedience instead
>> of gluttony.
>
>>>>>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>>>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>>>
>>>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>>>
>>>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>>>
>>> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
>>
>> What is written is that satan is the father of all lies instead of all
>> liars.
>
>>>>> God determines for
>>>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>>>
>>>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>>>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>>>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>>>
>>> Yes, they also accused Jesus as being in league with the Devil.
>>
>> What is written is that the devil is cursed to be terribly **not**
>> hungry for food; now only able to eat dust, for the rest of his life,
>> because of deceiving Eve to commit gluttony.
>
gluttony.
> The Bible says Adam sinned by disobedience, thus so
> did Eve since he did the same thing she did.
There is no sin called disobedience.
Instead, there is a sin called gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).
suicide.
Moreover, if you kill yourself, you prevent yourself from killing your
neighbor so that indeed "You shall love your neighbor as yourself
(before you killed yourself)."
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/VCpuEQudr5Y/m/IOG-QuX5AgAJ
Again, I really advise a 4th time here that you, James, **really** try
> Sorry, it is still a guess.
Exegesis, while wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, is not a guess.
Instead, it is receiving thoughts from the Holy Spirit instead of from
the heart (Matthew 15:19).
> Just because figs are mentioned in a few
> places, doesn't mean that was the food from the tree in the middle of
> the garden.
"The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Holy Spirit (again
referring to Genesis 3:12-13)
> There were multiple trees, unlikely they were all fig
> trees. So it could be any edible fruit bearing tree.
The reason why figs are the only fruit mentioned in multiple
significant places in the Bible is because they are the fruit from the
Exegesis, while wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, is not a guess.
Instead, it is receiving thoughts from the Holy Spirit instead of from
the heart (Matthew 15:19).
> Just because figs are mentioned in a few
> places, doesn't mean that was the food from the tree in the middle of
> the garden.
"The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Holy Spirit (again
referring to Genesis 3:12-13)
> There were multiple trees, unlikely they were all fig
> trees. So it could be any edible fruit bearing tree.
The reason why figs are the only fruit mentioned in multiple
tree of knowledge.
>>>>> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
>>>>
>>>> It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
>>>> the sin of gluttony.
>>>
>>> No, what logically follows is that they disobeyed God's command.
>>
>> If that were true, they would have confessed to disobedience instead
>> of gluttony.
>
> Paul tells us what it is:
>
> -- Living Bible
> Romans 5:19 Adam caused many to be sinners because he disobeyed God,
> and Christ caused many to be made acceptable to God because he obeyed.
>
> -- Living Bible
> Romans 5:19 Adam caused many to be sinners because he disobeyed God,
> and Christ caused many to be made acceptable to God because he obeyed.
Adam disobeyed GOD by committing the sin of gluttony.
Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name Adam's sin.
Moreover, the fact that GOD forgave A&E as evident by His making
clothes for them after their confessing to their sin of gluttony means
that indeed the sin they committed was most definitely gluttony.
"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us
our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)
Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name Adam's sin.
Moreover, the fact that GOD forgave A&E as evident by His making
clothes for them after their confessing to their sin of gluttony means
that indeed the sin they committed was most definitely gluttony.
"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us
our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)
>>> That
>>> was all their sin, and all their doings.
>>
>> Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
>
>>> was all their sin, and all their doings.
>>
>> Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
>
> See Rom 5:19.
Again, Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name
Adam's sin.
Again, Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name
>>>>>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>>>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>>>
>>>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>>>
>>>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>>>
>>> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
>>
>> What is written is that satan is the father of all lies instead of all
>> liars.
>
> Yes that is what it literally says. So if you are a constant liar, who
> is your father?
> is your father?
The same as before you became a constant liar.
However, if you unwisely choose to blaspheme against (Mark 3:29) the
Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth, then you become a child of
the devil, who does enter into your heart (Matthew 15:19), just as he
did enter Simon Peter and later, Judas Iscariot, if you do not
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) your heart.
Indeed, it is the devil in your heart, who prevents you from replying
appropriately to being greeted here by someone who is wonderfully
However, if you unwisely choose to blaspheme against (Mark 3:29) the
Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth, then you become a child of
the devil, who does enter into your heart (Matthew 15:19), just as he
did enter Simon Peter and later, Judas Iscariot, if you do not
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) your heart.
Indeed, it is the devil in your heart, who prevents you from replying
hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy Spirit, Who
causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger.
>>>>> God determines for
>>>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>>>
>>>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>>>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>>>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>>>
>>> Yes, they also accused Jesus as being in league with the Devil.
>>
>> What is written is that the devil is cursed to be terribly **not**
>> hungry for food; now only able to eat dust, for the rest of his life,
>> because of deceiving Eve to commit gluttony.
>
> The Bible doesn't say she committed gluttony.
Instead, it is written in the Bible that Eve confessed to gluttony
while blaming the devil for causing her to do it.
> You might well say she
> committed Bulimia.
Bulimia is a disease that is a consequence of committing the sin of
Instead, it is written in the Bible that Eve confessed to gluttony
while blaming the devil for causing her to do it.
> You might well say she
> committed Bulimia.
gluttony.
> The Bible says Adam sinned by disobedience, thus so
> did Eve since he did the same thing she did.
There is no sin called disobedience.
Instead, there is a sin called gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).
>>> And
>>> they also called him a drunkard.
>>
>> A drunkard commits gluttony with fermented grape juice.
>
>>> they also called him a drunkard.
>>
>> A drunkard commits gluttony with fermented grape juice.
>
> Let's see the definition of gluttony:
>
> "Gluttony definition is - excess in eating or drinking."
>
> Thus they were accusing Jesus of gluttony.
Therefore, the sin of gluttony is wrong as underscored by the fact
that it's described in the Bible that of all the sins (idolatry,
theft, murder, adultery, etc) that the Pharisees could falsely accuse
>
> "Gluttony definition is - excess in eating or drinking."
>
> Thus they were accusing Jesus of gluttony.
Therefore, the sin of gluttony is wrong as underscored by the fact
that it's described in the Bible that of all the sins (idolatry,
our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
> Ps 37:4 is not talking about the only evil things that can come from
> the heart, but also the good things.
The only good thing is GOD according to what is written at Matthew
19:17.
Moreover, Jeremiah 17:9 makes it clear why we must
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) the heart (Matthew 15:19)
> the heart, but also the good things.
The only good thing is GOD according to what is written at Matthew
19:17.
Moreover, Jeremiah 17:9 makes it clear why we must
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) the heart (Matthew 15:19)
> Jesus covers that with his statement at:
>
> -- Revised Standard
> Matthew 19:19 Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your
> neighbor as yourself."
Again, it is not written that GOD commands anyone to not commit
>
> -- Revised Standard
> Matthew 19:19 Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your
> neighbor as yourself."
suicide.
Moreover, if you kill yourself, you prevent yourself from killing your
neighbor so that indeed "You shall love your neighbor as yourself
(before you killed yourself)."
>>>>>> Moreover, it is described in the Bible that GOD helped Samson, His
>>>>>> annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
>>>>>> needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
>>>>>
>>>>> Self death for a good cause is not murder.
>>>>
>>>> Suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not adultery.
>>>>
>>>
>>> When the stock market crashed, many who lost a lot of money killed
>>> themselves. Is that not murdering our own body for no good cause.?
>>
>> Again, suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not
>> adultery.
>
>>>>>> annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
>>>>>> needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
>>>>>
>>>>> Self death for a good cause is not murder.
>>>>
>>>> Suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not adultery.
>>>>
>>>
>>> When the stock market crashed, many who lost a lot of money killed
>>> themselves. Is that not murdering our own body for no good cause.?
>>
>> Again, suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not
>> adultery.
>
> You are right by the English definition of "murder". It is always at
> least 2 people involved in murder, not one.
>
> But Jesus COMBINES one's neighbor with one's self. Thus if you kill
> your neighbor, it is murder. If you kill yourself, it is also murder
> since the two are combined. BUT THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.
> I recall, the Catholic Church considered suicide a mortal sin
> punishable by hellfire, same as murder.
>
> But in a murder case, the murderer can repent, and maybe get a
> reprieve. The suicider has no chance of repentance.
Again, if you kill yourself, you prevent yourself from killing your
neighbor so that indeed "You shall love your neighbor as yourself
(before you killed yourself)."
Moreover, the "suicider" has repented as evident by their no longer
> least 2 people involved in murder, not one.
>
> But Jesus COMBINES one's neighbor with one's self. Thus if you kill
> your neighbor, it is murder. If you kill yourself, it is also murder
> since the two are combined. BUT THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.
> I recall, the Catholic Church considered suicide a mortal sin
> punishable by hellfire, same as murder.
>
> But in a murder case, the murderer can repent, and maybe get a
> reprieve. The suicider has no chance of repentance.
Again, if you kill yourself, you prevent yourself from killing your
neighbor so that indeed "You shall love your neighbor as yourself
(before you killed yourself)."
Moreover, the "suicider" has repented as evident by their no longer
committing the sin of gluttony.
>>>>> Jesus allowed himself to be
>>>>> killed in order to save mankind.
>>>>
>>>> Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>>>> murder.
>>>
>>> Jehovah considers all life sacred. Jesus even implied we should LOVE
>>> ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
>>> 36:9)
>>
>> The lives of the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned are not sacred as
>> evident by the lake of fire being prepared for them.
>
>>>>> killed in order to save mankind.
>>>>
>>>> Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>>>> murder.
>>>
>>> Jehovah considers all life sacred. Jesus even implied we should LOVE
>>> ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
>>> 36:9)
>>
>> The lives of the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned are not sacred as
>> evident by the lake of fire being prepared for them.
>
> Is that a literal lake of fire? Or symbolic?
It is as literal as the "KING of kings and LORD of lords" written at
Revelation 19:16.
Also according to Revelation, those who reduce/minimize that which is
written in Revelation will have less reward in Heaven.
It is as literal as the "KING of kings and LORD of lords" written at
Revelation 19:16.
Also according to Revelation, those who reduce/minimize that which is
written in Revelation will have less reward in Heaven.
>>> You are correct. By DEFINITION, suicide is not murder. Murder takes at
>>> least two people; the victim and the killer.
>>>
>>> But the key question is, what does God think of suicide?
>>
>> Judas Iscariot fell from GOD's grace not for committing suicide but
>> for his love of money.
>
>>> least two people; the victim and the killer.
>>>
>>> But the key question is, what does God think of suicide?
>>
>> Judas Iscariot fell from GOD's grace not for committing suicide but
>> for his love of money.
>
> Actually, it should be for both.
Not according to what is written in the Bible.
>>
Not according to what is written in the Bible.
>>
>> Later, the same happened to Ananias and Sapphira.
>>
>>>>> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
>>>>> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
>>>>
>>>> Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
>>>> not murder.
>>>
>>> Only what God thinks about it, counts for true Christians.
>>
>> It is written that GOD changed His mind about destroying Niniveh,
>> thereby angering Prophet Jonah, when all it's inhabitants, including
>> their animals, stopped committing the sin of gluttony.
>
>>
>>>>> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
>>>>> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
>>>>
>>>> Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
>>>> not murder.
>>>
>>> Only what God thinks about it, counts for true Christians.
>>
>> It is written that GOD changed His mind about destroying Niniveh,
>> thereby angering Prophet Jonah, when all it's inhabitants, including
>> their animals, stopped committing the sin of gluttony.
>
> Animals do not commit sins.
Living creatures that do not commit sins also do not die.
For it is written that the wages of sin is death.
> They go by their God-given instincts.
Following GOD-given desires/instincts is **not** following GOD.
Living creatures that do not commit sins also do not die.
For it is written that the wages of sin is death.
> They go by their God-given instincts.
Following GOD-given desires/instincts is **not** following GOD.
> Just like I said previously.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/VCpuEQudr5Y/m/IOG-QuX5AgAJ
Again, I really advise a 4th time here that you, James, **really** try
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 21, 2020, 11:03:46 AM11/21/20
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duckg...@cox.net
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error was that God said "DO NOT........." and A&E said it was their decision to
make and not that of God.
Sin was born.
>>>>> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
>>>> It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
>>>> the sin of gluttony.
>>> No, what logically follows is that they disobeyed God's command.
>>If that were true, they would have confessed to disobedience instead
>>of gluttony.
>Paul tells us what it is:
>-- Living Bible
>Romans 5:19 Adam caused many to be sinners because he disobeyed God,
>and Christ caused many to be made acceptable to God because he obeyed.
sinned, all man]/woeman were stained. This is referred to as original sin, not
actual sin. And who are we cleansed of this stain - Christian baptism where we
profess to a belief in the Father, Son Jesus and Holy Spirit.
I cannot even begin to believe what you did to yourself when you dumped
Christian Baptism.
Romans 6:3-4
New International Version
3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism
into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the
glory of the Father, we too may live a new life..
>>> That
>>> was all their sin, and all their doings.
>>
>>Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
>
>See Rom 5:19.
Romans 5:19
New International Version
sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made
righteous.
Yep, and you dumped yours when you pledged the unChristian JW's.
righteous.
the dukester, American-American
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 21, 2020, 1:06:16 PM11/21/20
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Nov 22, 2020, 5:11:20 AM11/22/20
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zeb...@windstream.net
Nov 22, 2020, 7:33:57 AM11/22/20
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 05:11:18 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
A&Esin was one of disobedience:
-- New American with Apocrypha
Psalms 89:32 If they fail to observe my statutes, do not keep my
commandments,
2 Cor 10:5,6,
"5 For we are overturning reasonings and every lofty thing raised up
against the knowledge of God, and we are bringing every thought into
captivity to make it obedient to the Christ; 6 and we are prepared to
inflict punishment for every disobedience, as soon as your own
obedience is complete."
- New King James
Ephesians 2:2 in which you once walked according to the course of
this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the
spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
It doesn't do much good going on, until you can grasp this point.
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
A&Esin was one of disobedience:
-- New American with Apocrypha
Psalms 89:32 If they fail to observe my statutes, do not keep my
commandments,
2 Cor 10:5,6,
"5 For we are overturning reasonings and every lofty thing raised up
against the knowledge of God, and we are bringing every thought into
captivity to make it obedient to the Christ; 6 and we are prepared to
inflict punishment for every disobedience, as soon as your own
obedience is complete."
- New King James
Ephesians 2:2 in which you once walked according to the course of
this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the
spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
It doesn't do much good going on, until you can grasp this point.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 22, 2020, 8:35:10 AM11/22/20
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James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> James wrote:
>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Re: Hallelujah – Pentatonix
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> James wrote:
>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Do you know what Hallelujah really means?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> The Webster Dictionary defines Halleluyah as:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> "Halleluyah is a composite of Hallelu and Yah. It literally translates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> from Hebrew as "Praise Jah/Yah, [you people!]" or simply "Praise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Jah/Yah!" Jah/Yah is the shortened form of the name Jehovah/Yahweh."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Thus whether you realize it or not, you are really saying "Praise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Jehovah", ("Praise Jah") each time you say the poetic form of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Jehovah's name; "Hallelujah". Yes, praise Jehovah.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Source:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/lTUMNLiDrm8/ny-6lKrpBQAJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> And because it's written that there's only one GOD, Who has many names
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> (Isaiah 9:6), including Mighty GOD, everlasting Father, I AM, Jehovah,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> and Wonderful; Hallelujah in English is "praise GOD" and in Latin is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> "Laus DEO"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> http://WDJW.net/LausDEO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> In the interim, I am simply wonderfully hungry (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) and hope you, James, also have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> healthy appetite too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> So how are you ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Fine ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> So how are you ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I hope your "fine" means you, James, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > So you do have the ability to eat a piece of healthy fruit at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > moment, don't you (yes/no) ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, a bananna.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I share with you, James, that it's really Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) knowing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through our hunger that we're both being blessed right now as it's written
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the Gospels in red&white at Luke 6:21 **and** according to pure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logic (healthy=wonderful & appetite=hunger) and advise that you try to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> write that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So now how are you ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The same as before ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So now how are you ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/lTUMNLiDrm8/mK-51D4pBwAJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I again advise that you, James, really try to write that you're
>>>>>>>>>>>> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Always hungry for God's Bible truths. (2 Tim 3:16)
>>>>>>>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/ieIe76TH_9E/ai9G0M-hAQAJ
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then you should always write that you're "wonderfully hungry."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thus, I again really advise that you, James, **really** try to write that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Starving for, among other things, hidden spiritual food.
>>>>>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/lTUMNLiDrm8/3YyG-dEQAwAJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I again really advise a 4th time here that you, James, **really** try to write that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings to you also.
>>>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I again really advise a 5th time here that you, James, **really** try to write
>>>>>> that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, I'll take the bate:
>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am wonderfully hungry...
>>>>
>>>> Source:
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/lTUMNLiDrm8/sLXNav0kBwAJ
>>>>
>>>> I note that you, James, are now rapture (Luke 17:37) ready
>>
>>> Actually, the Bible doesn't teach of a rapture of all the righteous
>>> ones...
>>
>> Correct.
>>
>> Instead of the Bible, it's the LORD our Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) GOD who
>> teaches us about the rapture because He is the One Who helps us solve
>> His wonderful riddle that is written in the Bible at Luke 17:37 about
>> where the rapture will take place:
>>
>> "Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered
>> together" (Luke 17:37; KJV)
>>
>> Eagles are indeed raptors so that it is right to call the event
>> describing the taking up "of all the righteous ones" as the rapture
>> when thinking about this riddle.
>>
>> HIS solution to the riddle about where we must be to be rapture (Luke
>> 17:37) ready is that we must be http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Luke
>> 24:42) like the eagles circling patiently in flight around their food
>> and like the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD, Who is described in the
>> Bible to be like an Eagle, and Who is patiently waiting for us to eat
>> with Him at His wedding supper.
>
> Well, you got one big problem with the all righteous get raptured. It
> is Jesus words:
>
> -- King James
> Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
According to LORD Jesus' words written in Revelation, the Earth will
be made new, thereby making it a much better inheritance for those who
get raptured instead of for those who get left behind, like Cleopas
and Simon were left behind because of their being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32, Luke 24:32) misbehaving
(Hebrews 12:16) terribly wolfing down food in Emmaus instead of
waiting on our risen LORD, to suffer the Great Tribulation (Luke
17:29-30) which will indeed make Earth a new planet with no sea.
This does mean that, in accord with the rest of Scripture, the Earth
will be around forever but its pollution not so much.
Laus DEO :-)
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our
Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) Father continues to give us, James, "much
more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have
much more of His help to always say/write that we're "wonderfully
hungry" in **all** ways including especially caring to
http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward in order to love (John 15:12) as our
LORD loves (John 15:13) us with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ )
to GOD, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen. Laus DEO :-)
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
Lucifer
Nov 22, 2020, 1:59:46 PM11/22/20
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 07:33:54 -0500, zeb...@windstream.net wrote:
>On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 05:11:18 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
><disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>
>A&Esin was one of disobedience:
>
>-- New American with Apocrypha
>Psalms 89:32 If they fail to observe my statutes, do not keep my
>commandments,
>
>2 Cor 10:5,6,
>
>"5 For we are overturning reasonings and every lofty thing raised up
>against the knowledge of God, and we are bringing every thought into
>captivity to make it obedient to the Christ; 6 and we are prepared to
>inflict punishment for every disobedience, as soon as your own
>obedience is complete."
>
>- New King James
>Ephesians 2:2 in which you once walked according to the course of
>this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the
>spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
>
>It doesn't do much good going on, until you can grasp this point.
We need you to tell us why God wants things the way they are.
>On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 05:11:18 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
><disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>
>A&Esin was one of disobedience:
>
>-- New American with Apocrypha
>Psalms 89:32 If they fail to observe my statutes, do not keep my
>commandments,
>
>2 Cor 10:5,6,
>
>"5 For we are overturning reasonings and every lofty thing raised up
>against the knowledge of God, and we are bringing every thought into
>captivity to make it obedient to the Christ; 6 and we are prepared to
>inflict punishment for every disobedience, as soon as your own
>obedience is complete."
>
>- New King James
>Ephesians 2:2 in which you once walked according to the course of
>this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the
>spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
>
>It doesn't do much good going on, until you can grasp this point.
>James
zeb...@windstream.net
Nov 22, 2020, 5:21:19 PM11/22/20
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false. God DOESN'T WANT things the way they are. He just permits it.
What God's will is for us is stated at Rev 21:3,4:
" 3. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the
tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they
shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their
God.
4. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there
shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall
there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."
Does He still look like an uncaring God? No human can bring about the
examples in vs 4. NONE. Only God can fulfill those words.
>>James
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 22, 2020, 6:31:25 PM11/22/20
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Lucifer
Nov 22, 2020, 10:45:24 PM11/22/20
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 17:21:16 -0500, zeb...@windstream.net wrote:
>On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 05:59:42 +1100, Lucifer
><LuciferMo...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 07:33:54 -0500, zeb...@windstream.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 05:11:18 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>><disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>A&Esin was one of disobedience:
>>>
>>>-- New American with Apocrypha
>>>Psalms 89:32 If they fail to observe my statutes, do not keep my
>>>commandments,
>>>
>>>2 Cor 10:5,6,
>>>
>>>"5 For we are overturning reasonings and every lofty thing raised up
>>>against the knowledge of God, and we are bringing every thought into
>>>captivity to make it obedient to the Christ; 6 and we are prepared to
>>>inflict punishment for every disobedience, as soon as your own
>>>obedience is complete."
>>>
>>>- New King James
>>>Ephesians 2:2 in which you once walked according to the course of
>>>this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the
>>>spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
>>>
>>>It doesn't do much good going on, until you can grasp this point.
>>
>>We need you to tell us why God wants things the way they are.
>
>Your foundation question is false, thus any explanations will also be
>false. God DOESN'T WANT things the way they are.
God is almighty.
>On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 05:59:42 +1100, Lucifer
><LuciferMo...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 07:33:54 -0500, zeb...@windstream.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 05:11:18 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>><disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>A&Esin was one of disobedience:
>>>
>>>-- New American with Apocrypha
>>>Psalms 89:32 If they fail to observe my statutes, do not keep my
>>>commandments,
>>>
>>>2 Cor 10:5,6,
>>>
>>>"5 For we are overturning reasonings and every lofty thing raised up
>>>against the knowledge of God, and we are bringing every thought into
>>>captivity to make it obedient to the Christ; 6 and we are prepared to
>>>inflict punishment for every disobedience, as soon as your own
>>>obedience is complete."
>>>
>>>- New King James
>>>Ephesians 2:2 in which you once walked according to the course of
>>>this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the
>>>spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
>>>
>>>It doesn't do much good going on, until you can grasp this point.
>>
>>We need you to tell us why God wants things the way they are.
>
>Your foundation question is false, thus any explanations will also be
>false. God DOESN'T WANT things the way they are.
>He just permits it.
>What God's will is for us is stated at Rev 21:3,4:
>" 3. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the
>tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they
>shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their
>God.
> 4. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there
>shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall
>there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."
>
>Does He still look like an uncaring God?
>No human can bring about theexamples in vs 4. NONE.
>Only God can fulfill those words.
No God has brought about the
examples in vs 4.
You use science to spread your message because science delivers.
We still need you to tell us why God wants things the way they are.
>James
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 23, 2020, 2:39:42 AM11/23/20
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(Rev1:7) 11/23/20 Lucifer tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...
6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO ! ! !
Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.
Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html
Again, this is done ...
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://bit.ly/HeartVAT from around the heart
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
Laus DEO ! ! !
Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.
Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html
Again, this is done ...
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://bit.ly/HeartVAT from around the heart
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 23, 2020, 7:34:50 AM11/23/20
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zeb...@windstream.net
Nov 28, 2020, 12:47:31 PM11/28/20
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passed. And the Bible's Holy Spirit doesn't say.
>
>> Just because figs are mentioned in a few
>> places, doesn't mean that was the food from the tree in the middle of
>> the garden.
>
>"The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Holy Spirit (again
>referring to Genesis 3:12-13)
question:
Which of these are NOT a Bible doctrine:
a. An immortal soul.
b. God is a Trinity.
c. In Heaven, Jesus and God are equal.
d. love your enemies.
>
>> There were multiple trees, unlikely they were all fig
>> trees. So it could be any edible fruit bearing tree.
>
>The reason why figs are the only fruit mentioned in multiple
>significant places in the Bible is because they are the fruit from the
>tree of knowledge.
tree is named more than the fig tree, so it must have been an olive
tree?
>
>>>>>> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
>>>>>
>>>>> It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
>>>>> the sin of gluttony.
>>>>
>>>> No, what logically follows is that they disobeyed God's command.
>>>
>>> If that were true, they would have confessed to disobedience instead
>>> of gluttony.
>>
>> Paul tells us what it is:
>>
>> -- Living Bible
>> Romans 5:19 Adam caused many to be sinners because he disobeyed God,
>> and Christ caused many to be made acceptable to God because he obeyed.
>
>Adam disobeyed GOD by committing the sin of gluttony.
>
>Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name Adam's sin.
>
With your naming the fig tree, and gluttony, you are adding to the
Bible those things. We are not supposed to add or take away, from the
Bible.
>Moreover, the fact that GOD forgave A&E as evident by His making
>clothes for them after their confessing to their sin of gluttony means
>that indeed the sin they committed was most definitely gluttony.
>
>"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us
>our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)
>
>>>> That
>>>> was all their sin, and all their doings.
>>>
>>> Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
>>
>> See Rom 5:19.
>
>Again, Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name
>Adam's sin.
>
>>>>>>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>>>>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>>>>
>>>>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
>>>
>>> What is written is that satan is the father of all lies instead of all
>>> liars.
>>
>> Yes that is what it literally says. So if you are a constant liar, who
>> is your father?
>
>The same as before you became a constant liar.
>
>However, if you unwisely choose to blaspheme against (Mark 3:29) the
>Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth, then you become a child of
>the devil, who does enter into your heart (Matthew 15:19), just as he
>did enter Simon Peter and later, Judas Iscariot, if you do not
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) your heart.
>
>Indeed, it is the devil in your heart, who prevents you from replying
>appropriately to being greeted here by someone who is wonderfully
>hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy Spirit, Who
>causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger.
>
>>>>>> God determines for
>>>>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>>>>
>>>>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>>>>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>>>>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, they also accused Jesus as being in league with the Devil.
>>>
>>> What is written is that the devil is cursed to be terribly **not**
>>> hungry for food; now only able to eat dust, for the rest of his life,
>>> because of deceiving Eve to commit gluttony.
>>
>> The Bible doesn't say she committed gluttony.
>
>Instead, it is written in the Bible that Eve confessed to gluttony
>while blaming the devil for causing her to do it.
3:16)
>
>> You might well say she
>> committed Bulimia.
>
>Bulimia is a disease that is a consequence of committing the sin of
>gluttony.
>
>> The Bible says Adam sinned by disobedience, thus so
>> did Eve since he did the same thing she did.
>
>There is no sin called disobedience.
God is to disobey him. sin against Jesus, l
same time try to tell me that figs was the forbidden fruit.
>
>Moreover, if you kill yourself, you prevent yourself from killing your
>neighbor so that indeed "You shall love your neighbor as yourself
>(before you killed yourself)."
a suicide
>
>>>>>>> Moreover, it is described in the Bible that GOD helped Samson, His
>>>>>>> annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
>>>>>>> needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Self death for a good cause is not murder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not adultery.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When the stock market crashed, many who lost a lot of money killed
>>>> themselves. Is that not murdering our own body for no good cause.?
>>>
>>> Again, suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not
>>> adultery.
>>
>> You are right by the English definition of "murder". It is always at
>> least 2 people involved in murder, not one.
>>
>> But Jesus COMBINES one's neighbor with one's self. Thus if you kill
>> your neighbor, it is murder. If you kill yourself, it is also murder
>> since the two are combined. BUT THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.
>> I recall, the Catholic Church considered suicide a mortal sin
>> punishable by hellfire, same as murder.
>>
>> But in a murder case, the murderer can repent, and maybe get a
>> reprieve. The suicider has no chance of repentance.
>
>Again, if you kill yourself, you prevent yourself from killing your
>neighbor so that indeed "You shall love your neighbor as yourself
>(before you killed yourself)."
>
>Moreover, the "suicider" has repented as evident by their no longer
>committing the sin of gluttony.
'sinless'. Look at Hitler. He commits no more sins. Yet, given the
chance his murderous rampage would continue.
God wants people to stop sinning because they love Him, not because
they are physically unable.
>
>>>>>> Jesus allowed himself to be
>>>>>> killed in order to save mankind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>>>>> murder.
>>>>
>>>> Jehovah considers all life sacred. Jesus even implied we should LOVE
>>>> ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
>>>> 36:9)
>>>
>>> The lives of the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned are not sacred as
>>> evident by the lake of fire being prepared for them.
>>
>> Is that a literal lake of fire? Or symbolic?
>
>It is as literal as the "KING of kings and LORD of lords" written at
>Revelation 19:16.
>
>Also according to Revelation, those who reduce/minimize that which is
>written in Revelation will have less reward in Heaven.
into a literal fire?
-- Revised Standard
Revelation 20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of
fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire;
And it symbolizes the second DEATH, not a LIFE of torture.
>
>>>> You are correct. By DEFINITION, suicide is not murder. Murder takes at
>>>> least two people; the victim and the killer.
>>>>
>>>> But the key question is, what does God think of suicide?
>>>
>>> Judas Iscariot fell from GOD's grace not for committing suicide but
>>> for his love of money.
>>
>> Actually, it should be for both.
>
>Not according to what is written in the Bible.
>
>>>
>>> Later, the same happened to Ananias and Sapphira.
>>>
>>>>>> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
>>>>>> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
>>>>> not murder.
>>>>
>>>> Only what God thinks about it, counts for true Christians.
>>>
>>> It is written that GOD changed His mind about destroying Niniveh,
>>> thereby angering Prophet Jonah, when all it's inhabitants, including
>>> their animals, stopped committing the sin of gluttony.
>>
>> Animals do not commit sins.
>
>Living creatures that do not commit sins also do not die.
>
>For it is written that the wages of sin is death.
is DEATH. (the opposite of life)
>
>> They go by their God-given instincts.
>
>Following GOD-given desires/instincts is **not** following GOD.
sufficient.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 28, 2020, 2:09:41 PM11/28/20
to
his physical acts of defeating the Philistines were recorded in the
Bible.
Similarly, while http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit,
Who causes him to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) right now (Luke 6:21a),
HeartDoc Andrew's physical acts of defeating the eternally (Mark 3:29)
condemned, are recorded here on USENET.
> The time of prophesying is
> passed. And the Bible's Holy Spirit doesn't say.
>>
>>> Just because figs are mentioned in a few
>>> places, doesn't mean that was the food from the tree in the middle of
>>> the garden.
>>
>> "The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Holy Spirit (again
>> referring to Genesis 3:12-13)
>
> We can test to see if you really have Holy Spirit by answering this
> question:
>
> Which of these are NOT a Bible doctrine:
>
> a. An immortal soul.
> b. God is a Trinity.
> c. In Heaven, Jesus and God are equal.
> d. love your enemies.
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
Corinthians 12:3)
Here's HeartDoc Andrew publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" to prove that
he's annointed by the Holy Spirit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyg90JPUs7o
Now it is your turn, James, to prove likewise by uploading a video of
yourself saying "Jesus is LORD" and sharing the link in this thread.
It is written in the Bible that we're to prove all things.
>>> There were multiple trees, unlikely they were all fig
>>> trees. So it could be any edible fruit bearing tree.
>>
>> The reason why figs are the only fruit mentioned in multiple
>> significant places in the Bible is because they are the fruit from the
>> tree of knowledge.
>
> The Bible doesn't tell the name of the fruit. I would say the olive
> tree is named more than the fig tree, so it must have been an olive
> tree?
food and pleasing to the eye" (Genesis 3:6) which would not be the
case for olives, which are much smaller with an unpleasant look and
smell compared to figs.
>>>>>>> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
>>>>>> the sin of gluttony.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, what logically follows is that they disobeyed God's command.
>>>>
>>>> If that were true, they would have confessed to disobedience instead
>>>> of gluttony.
>>>
>>> Paul tells us what it is:
>>>
>>> -- Living Bible
>>> Romans 5:19 Adam caused many to be sinners because he disobeyed God,
>>> and Christ caused many to be made acceptable to God because he obeyed.
>>
>> Adam disobeyed GOD by committing the sin of gluttony.
>>
>> Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name Adam's sin.
>
> On the contrary, he mentions the sin of disobedience.
disobedience.
Moreover, there is no mention in the Bible that when Jacob disobeyed
GOD's command to let Him go while wrestling with GOD that the
patriarch committed a sin.
> With your naming the fig tree, and gluttony, you are adding to the
> Bible those things.
with fig leaves upon realizing they were naked as they ate the tree's
fruit.
Therefore, logically, the tree of knowledge was a fig tree.
"The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Holy Spirit (again
referring to Genesis 3:12-13
> We are not supposed to add or take away, from the
> Bible.
Those who deny gluttony is A&E's first (aka Original) sin are trying
> Bible.
to take away from the Bible.
Indeed, "the sin" Apostle Paul writes about at Hebrews 12:1 is without
doubt the sin of gluttony though still unnamed.
Every living creature on planet Earth is guilty of the sin of gluttony
if they don't know (Hosea 4:6) the right amount of daily food and
don't have GOD's help to http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23)
themselves from committing gluttony (Proverbs 23:2)
>> Moreover, the fact that GOD forgave A&E as evident by His making
>> clothes for them after their confessing to their sin of gluttony means
>> that indeed the sin they committed was most definitely gluttony.
>
> Where does the Bible say they said their sin was of gluttony?
they didn't need (i.e. no one needs to die).
The absolutely only sin that is associated with eating fruit is
gluttony.
>> "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us
>> our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)
>>
>>>>> That
>>>>> was all their sin, and all their doings.
>>>>
>>>> Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
>>>
>>> See Rom 5:19.
>>
>> Again, Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name
>> Adam's sin.
>
> You are looking past it. It was one of disobedience.
disobeying GOD's command to let Him go during their wrestling match.
>>>>>>>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>>>>>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
>>>>
>>>> What is written is that satan is the father of all lies instead of all
>>>> liars.
>>>
>>> Yes that is what it literally says. So if you are a constant liar, who
>>> is your father?
>>
>> The same as before you became a constant liar.
>>
>> However, if you unwisely choose to blaspheme against (Mark 3:29) the
>> Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth, then you become a child of
>> the devil, who does enter into your heart (Matthew 15:19), just as he
>> did enter Simon Peter and later, Judas Iscariot, if you do not
>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) your heart.
>>
>> Indeed, it is the devil in your heart, who prevents you from replying
>> appropriately to being greeted here by someone who is wonderfully
>> hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy Spirit, Who
>> causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger.
>
> Just quit taking those pills, and you will be fine.
Ask GOD to rebuke the devil in your heart (Matthew 15:19) and
hopefully He is willing to do this so that you'd be fine.
>>>>>>> God determines for
>>>>>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>>>>>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>>>>>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, they also accused Jesus as being in league with the Devil.
>>>>
>>>> What is written is that the devil is cursed to be terribly **not**
>>>> hungry for food; now only able to eat dust, for the rest of his life,
>>>> because of deceiving Eve to commit gluttony.
>>>
>>> The Bible doesn't say she committed gluttony.
>>
>> Instead, it is written in the Bible that Eve confessed to gluttony
>> while blaming the devil for causing her to do it.
>
> She never confessed gluttony. You are adding that to the Bible. (2 Tim
> 3:16)
sin of gluttony.
>>> You might well say she
>>> committed Bulimia.
>>
>> Bulimia is a disease that is a consequence of committing the sin of
>> gluttony.
>
> Which the Bible doesn't mention.
tongue is lying, is indeed in your heart) in your claiming that you
only know about that which is mentioned in the Bible.
>>> The Bible says Adam sinned by disobedience, thus so
>>> did Eve since he did the same thing she did.
>>
>> There is no sin called disobedience.
>
> Disobedience to God and Jesus' laws, are a necessity. To sin against
> God is to disobey him. sin against Jesus, l
Jacob disobeying GOD's command to let Him go during their wrestling
match.
Judas Iscariot and Simon Peter.
>> Moreover, if you kill yourself, you prevent yourself from killing your
>> neighbor so that indeed "You shall love your neighbor as yourself
>> (before you killed yourself)."
>
> God believes all life is precious.
(Mark 3:29) condemned proves otherwise.
> I just can't see God not condemning
> a suicide
> God wants people to stop sinning because they love Him, not because
> they are physically unable.
>>>>>>> Jesus allowed himself to be
>>>>>>> killed in order to save mankind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>>>>>> murder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jehovah considers all life sacred. Jesus even implied we should LOVE
>>>>> ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
>>>>> 36:9)
>>>>
>>>> The lives of the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned are not sacred as
>>>> evident by the lake of fire being prepared for them.
>>>
>>> Is that a literal lake of fire? Or symbolic?
>>
>> It is as literal as the "KING of kings and LORD of lords" written at
>> Revelation 19:16.
>>
>> Also according to Revelation, those who reduce/minimize that which is
>> written in Revelation will have less reward in Heaven.
>
> Then please once and for all, explain to me how "death" can be thrown
> into a literal fire?
> -- Revised Standard
> Revelation 20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of
> fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire;
>
> And it symbolizes the second DEATH, not a LIFE of torture.
>>>>> You are correct. By DEFINITION, suicide is not murder. Murder takes at
>>>>> least two people; the victim and the killer.
>>>>>
>>>>> But the key question is, what does God think of suicide?
>>>>
>>>> Judas Iscariot fell from GOD's grace not for committing suicide but
>>>> for his love of money.
>>>
>>> Actually, it should be for both.
>>
>> Not according to what is written in the Bible.
>
> Which is?
>>>> Later, the same happened to Ananias and Sapphira.
>>>>
>>>>>>> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
>>>>>>> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
>>>>>> not murder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only what God thinks about it, counts for true Christians.
>>>>
>>>> It is written that GOD changed His mind about destroying Niniveh,
>>>> thereby angering Prophet Jonah, when all it's inhabitants, including
>>>> their animals, stopped committing the sin of gluttony.
>>>
>>> Animals do not commit sins.
>>
>> Living creatures that do not commit sins also do not die.
>>
>> For it is written that the wages of sin is death.
>
> That is correct. The wages of sin is NOT LIFE. (a life of torture) But
> is DEATH. (the opposite of life)
"The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law." (1
Corinthians 15:56)
This does mean that the eternal (Mark 3:29) sin brings with it an
eternal sting (i.e. the eternal torment of the lake of fire)
>>> They go by their God-given instincts.
>>
>> Following GOD-given desires/instincts is **not** following GOD.
>
> Animals do not care if they follow and obey God or not.
to write that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established
here that you are:
So now again, how are you ?
here that you are:
So now again, how are you ?
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
HeartDoc Andrew <><
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 29, 2020, 3:34:38 AM11/29/20
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(Rev1:7) 11/29/20 Again here ...
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/VCpuEQudr5Y/m/_3E5c7xPDQAJ
Again, I really advise a 5th time here that you, James, **really** try
> Those with Holy Spirit go by the Bible.
It is described in the Bible, that when Samson was in the Holy Spirit,
his physical acts of defeating the Philistines were recorded in the
Bible.
Similarly, while http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit,
Who causes him to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) right now (Luke 6:21a),
HeartDoc Andrew's physical acts of defeating the eternally (Mark 3:29)
condemned, are recorded here on USENET.
> The time of prophesying is
> passed. And the Bible's Holy Spirit doesn't say.
It is written in the Bible that the Holy Spirit speaks what He hears.
>>
It is described in the Bible, that when Samson was in the Holy Spirit,
his physical acts of defeating the Philistines were recorded in the
Bible.
Similarly, while http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit,
Who causes him to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) right now (Luke 6:21a),
HeartDoc Andrew's physical acts of defeating the eternally (Mark 3:29)
condemned, are recorded here on USENET.
> The time of prophesying is
> passed. And the Bible's Holy Spirit doesn't say.
It is written in the Bible that the Holy Spirit speaks what He hears.
>>
>>> Just because figs are mentioned in a few
>>> places, doesn't mean that was the food from the tree in the middle of
>>> the garden.
>>
>> "The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Holy Spirit (again
>> referring to Genesis 3:12-13)
>
>>> places, doesn't mean that was the food from the tree in the middle of
>>> the garden.
>>
>> "The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Holy Spirit (again
>> referring to Genesis 3:12-13)
>
> We can test to see if you really have Holy Spirit by answering this
> question:
>
> Which of these are NOT a Bible doctrine:
>
> a. An immortal soul.
> b. God is a Trinity.
> c. In Heaven, Jesus and God are equal.
> d. love your enemies.
Actually, the real test is what is written in the Bible which is that
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
Corinthians 12:3)
Here's HeartDoc Andrew publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" to prove that
he's annointed by the Holy Spirit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyg90JPUs7o
Now it is your turn, James, to prove likewise by uploading a video of
yourself saying "Jesus is LORD" and sharing the link in this thread.
It is written in the Bible that we're to prove all things.
> question:
>
> Which of these are NOT a Bible doctrine:
>
> a. An immortal soul.
> b. God is a Trinity.
> c. In Heaven, Jesus and God are equal.
> d. love your enemies.
Actually, the real test is what is written in the Bible which is that
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
Corinthians 12:3)
Here's HeartDoc Andrew publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" to prove that
he's annointed by the Holy Spirit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyg90JPUs7o
Now it is your turn, James, to prove likewise by uploading a video of
yourself saying "Jesus is LORD" and sharing the link in this thread.
It is written in the Bible that we're to prove all things.
>>> There were multiple trees, unlikely they were all fig
>>> trees. So it could be any edible fruit bearing tree.
>>
>> The reason why figs are the only fruit mentioned in multiple
>> significant places in the Bible is because they are the fruit from the
>> tree of knowledge.
>
>>> trees. So it could be any edible fruit bearing tree.
>>
>> The reason why figs are the only fruit mentioned in multiple
>> significant places in the Bible is because they are the fruit from the
>> tree of knowledge.
>
> The Bible doesn't tell the name of the fruit. I would say the olive
> tree is named more than the fig tree, so it must have been an olive
> tree?
It is written that Eve "saw that the fruit of the tree was good for
food and pleasing to the eye" (Genesis 3:6) which would not be the
case for olives, which are much smaller with an unpleasant look and
smell compared to figs.
> tree is named more than the fig tree, so it must have been an olive
> tree?
It is written that Eve "saw that the fruit of the tree was good for
food and pleasing to the eye" (Genesis 3:6) which would not be the
case for olives, which are much smaller with an unpleasant look and
smell compared to figs.
>>>>>>> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
>>>>>> the sin of gluttony.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, what logically follows is that they disobeyed God's command.
>>>>
>>>> If that were true, they would have confessed to disobedience instead
>>>> of gluttony.
>>>
>>> Paul tells us what it is:
>>>
>>> -- Living Bible
>>> Romans 5:19 Adam caused many to be sinners because he disobeyed God,
>>> and Christ caused many to be made acceptable to God because he obeyed.
>>
>> Adam disobeyed GOD by committing the sin of gluttony.
>>
>> Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name Adam's sin.
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
>>>>>> the sin of gluttony.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, what logically follows is that they disobeyed God's command.
>>>>
>>>> If that were true, they would have confessed to disobedience instead
>>>> of gluttony.
>>>
>>> Paul tells us what it is:
>>>
>>> -- Living Bible
>>> Romans 5:19 Adam caused many to be sinners because he disobeyed God,
>>> and Christ caused many to be made acceptable to God because he obeyed.
>>
>> Adam disobeyed GOD by committing the sin of gluttony.
>>
>> Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name Adam's sin.
>
> On the contrary, he mentions the sin of disobedience.
Apostle Paul did not write that Adam committed a sin called
disobedience.
Moreover, there is no mention in the Bible that when Jacob disobeyed
GOD's command to let Him go while wrestling with GOD that the
patriarch committed a sin.
> With your naming the fig tree, and gluttony, you are adding to the
> Bible those things.
Again, it is written in the Bible that Adam&Eve covered themselves
with fig leaves upon realizing they were naked as they ate the tree's
fruit.
Therefore, logically, the tree of knowledge was a fig tree.
Apostle Paul did not write that Adam committed a sin called
disobedience.
Moreover, there is no mention in the Bible that when Jacob disobeyed
GOD's command to let Him go while wrestling with GOD that the
patriarch committed a sin.
> With your naming the fig tree, and gluttony, you are adding to the
> Bible those things.
Again, it is written in the Bible that Adam&Eve covered themselves
with fig leaves upon realizing they were naked as they ate the tree's
fruit.
Therefore, logically, the tree of knowledge was a fig tree.
"The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Holy Spirit (again
referring to Genesis 3:12-13
> We are not supposed to add or take away, from the
> Bible.
Those who deny gluttony is A&E's first (aka Original) sin are trying
to take away from the Bible.
Indeed, "the sin" Apostle Paul writes about at Hebrews 12:1 is without
doubt the sin of gluttony though still unnamed.
Every living creature on planet Earth is guilty of the sin of gluttony
if they don't know (Hosea 4:6) the right amount of daily food and
don't have GOD's help to http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23)
themselves from committing gluttony (Proverbs 23:2)
> We are not supposed to add or take away, from the
> Bible.
Those who deny gluttony is A&E's first (aka Original) sin are trying
to take away from the Bible.
Indeed, "the sin" Apostle Paul writes about at Hebrews 12:1 is without
doubt the sin of gluttony though still unnamed.
Every living creature on planet Earth is guilty of the sin of gluttony
if they don't know (Hosea 4:6) the right amount of daily food and
don't have GOD's help to http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23)
themselves from committing gluttony (Proverbs 23:2)
>> Moreover, the fact that GOD forgave A&E as evident by His making
>> clothes for them after their confessing to their sin of gluttony means
>> that indeed the sin they committed was most definitely gluttony.
>
>> clothes for them after their confessing to their sin of gluttony means
>> that indeed the sin they committed was most definitely gluttony.
>
> Where does the Bible say they said their sin was of gluttony?
It is written that both Adam & Eve confessed to eating the fruit that
they didn't need (i.e. no one needs to die).
The absolutely only sin that is associated with eating fruit is
It is written that both Adam & Eve confessed to eating the fruit that
they didn't need (i.e. no one needs to die).
The absolutely only sin that is associated with eating fruit is
gluttony.
>> "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us
>> our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)
>>
>>>>> That
>>>>> was all their sin, and all their doings.
>>>>
>>>> Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
>>>
>>> See Rom 5:19.
>>
>> Again, Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name
>> Adam's sin.
>
>> "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us
>> our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)
>>
>>>>> That
>>>>> was all their sin, and all their doings.
>>>>
>>>> Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
>>>
>>> See Rom 5:19.
>>
>> Again, Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name
>> Adam's sin.
>
> You are looking past it. It was one of disobedience.
Disobedience is not sin as evident by the Biblical example of Jacob
disobeying GOD's command to let Him go during their wrestling match.
Disobedience is not sin as evident by the Biblical example of Jacob
disobeying GOD's command to let Him go during their wrestling match.
>>>>>>>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>>>>>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
>>>>
>>>> What is written is that satan is the father of all lies instead of all
>>>> liars.
>>>
>>> Yes that is what it literally says. So if you are a constant liar, who
>>> is your father?
>>
>> The same as before you became a constant liar.
>>
>> However, if you unwisely choose to blaspheme against (Mark 3:29) the
>> Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth, then you become a child of
>> the devil, who does enter into your heart (Matthew 15:19), just as he
>> did enter Simon Peter and later, Judas Iscariot, if you do not
>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) your heart.
>>
>> Indeed, it is the devil in your heart, who prevents you from replying
>> appropriately to being greeted here by someone who is wonderfully
>> hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy Spirit, Who
>> causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger.
>
>>>>>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
>>>>
>>>> What is written is that satan is the father of all lies instead of all
>>>> liars.
>>>
>>> Yes that is what it literally says. So if you are a constant liar, who
>>> is your father?
>>
>> The same as before you became a constant liar.
>>
>> However, if you unwisely choose to blaspheme against (Mark 3:29) the
>> Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth, then you become a child of
>> the devil, who does enter into your heart (Matthew 15:19), just as he
>> did enter Simon Peter and later, Judas Iscariot, if you do not
>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) your heart.
>>
>> Indeed, it is the devil in your heart, who prevents you from replying
>> appropriately to being greeted here by someone who is wonderfully
>> hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy Spirit, Who
>> causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger.
>
> Just quit taking those pills, and you will be fine.
I am not taking any pills.
Ask GOD to rebuke the devil in your heart (Matthew 15:19) and
hopefully He is willing to do this so that you'd be fine.
I am not taking any pills.
Ask GOD to rebuke the devil in your heart (Matthew 15:19) and
hopefully He is willing to do this so that you'd be fine.
>>>>>>> God determines for
>>>>>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>>>>>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>>>>>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, they also accused Jesus as being in league with the Devil.
>>>>
>>>> What is written is that the devil is cursed to be terribly **not**
>>>> hungry for food; now only able to eat dust, for the rest of his life,
>>>> because of deceiving Eve to commit gluttony.
>>>
>>> The Bible doesn't say she committed gluttony.
>>
>> Instead, it is written in the Bible that Eve confessed to gluttony
>> while blaming the devil for causing her to do it.
>
>>>>>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>>>>>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>>>>>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, they also accused Jesus as being in league with the Devil.
>>>>
>>>> What is written is that the devil is cursed to be terribly **not**
>>>> hungry for food; now only able to eat dust, for the rest of his life,
>>>> because of deceiving Eve to commit gluttony.
>>>
>>> The Bible doesn't say she committed gluttony.
>>
>> Instead, it is written in the Bible that Eve confessed to gluttony
>> while blaming the devil for causing her to do it.
>
> She never confessed gluttony. You are adding that to the Bible. (2 Tim
> 3:16)
There really is no other sin associated with eating fruit except the
sin of gluttony.
> 3:16)
There really is no other sin associated with eating fruit except the
sin of gluttony.
>>> You might well say she
>>> committed Bulimia.
>>
>> Bulimia is a disease that is a consequence of committing the sin of
>> gluttony.
>
>>> committed Bulimia.
>>
>> Bulimia is a disease that is a consequence of committing the sin of
>> gluttony.
>
> Which the Bible doesn't mention.
Which proves you to be a liar (i.e. that the devil, whose native
tongue is lying, is indeed in your heart) in your claiming that you
only know about that which is mentioned in the Bible.
Which proves you to be a liar (i.e. that the devil, whose native
tongue is lying, is indeed in your heart) in your claiming that you
only know about that which is mentioned in the Bible.
>>> The Bible says Adam sinned by disobedience, thus so
>>> did Eve since he did the same thing she did.
>>
>> There is no sin called disobedience.
>
>>> did Eve since he did the same thing she did.
>>
>> There is no sin called disobedience.
>
> Disobedience to God and Jesus' laws, are a necessity. To sin against
> God is to disobey him. sin against Jesus, l
Again, disobedience is not sin as evident by the Biblical example of
Jacob disobeying GOD's command to let Him go during their wrestling
match.
> God is to disobey him. sin against Jesus, l
Again, disobedience is not sin as evident by the Biblical example of
Jacob disobeying GOD's command to let Him go during their wrestling
match.
> Yes, the heart is deceptive. We must be careful with it.
Moreover, it's where the devil resides inside you, James, as he was in
Judas Iscariot and Simon Peter.
Moreover, it's where the devil resides inside you, James, as he was in
Judas Iscariot and Simon Peter.
> Why are you so insistent that the Bible doesn't mention it, yet at the
> same time try to tell me that figs was the forbidden fruit.
It remains my choice to neither remove nor add to the Bible.
> same time try to tell me that figs was the forbidden fruit.
It remains my choice to neither remove nor add to the Bible.
>> Moreover, if you kill yourself, you prevent yourself from killing your
>> neighbor so that indeed "You shall love your neighbor as yourself
>> (before you killed yourself)."
>
>> neighbor so that indeed "You shall love your neighbor as yourself
>> (before you killed yourself)."
>
> God believes all life is precious.
The lake of fire (Matthew 25:41) being prepared for the eternally
(Mark 3:29) condemned proves otherwise.
> I just can't see God not condemning
> a suicide
That would be the devil in your heart (Jeremiah 17:9) blinding you.
The lake of fire (Matthew 25:41) being prepared for the eternally
(Mark 3:29) condemned proves otherwise.
> I just can't see God not condemning
> a suicide
That would be the devil in your heart (Jeremiah 17:9) blinding you.
>>>>>>>> Moreover, it is described in the Bible that GOD helped Samson, His
>>>>>>>> annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
>>>>>>>> needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Self death for a good cause is not murder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not adultery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When the stock market crashed, many who lost a lot of money killed
>>>>> themselves. Is that not murdering our own body for no good cause.?
>>>>
>>>> Again, suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not
>>>> adultery.
>>>
>>> You are right by the English definition of "murder". It is always at
>>> least 2 people involved in murder, not one.
>>>
>>> But Jesus COMBINES one's neighbor with one's self. Thus if you kill
>>> your neighbor, it is murder. If you kill yourself, it is also murder
>>> since the two are combined. BUT THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.
>>> I recall, the Catholic Church considered suicide a mortal sin
>>> punishable by hellfire, same as murder.
>>>
>>> But in a murder case, the murderer can repent, and maybe get a
>>> reprieve. The suicider has no chance of repentance.
>>
>> Again, if you kill yourself, you prevent yourself from killing your
>> neighbor so that indeed "You shall love your neighbor as yourself
>> (before you killed yourself)."
>>
>> Moreover, the "suicider" has repented as evident by their no longer
>> committing the sin of gluttony.
>
>>>>>>>> annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
>>>>>>>> needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Self death for a good cause is not murder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not adultery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When the stock market crashed, many who lost a lot of money killed
>>>>> themselves. Is that not murdering our own body for no good cause.?
>>>>
>>>> Again, suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not
>>>> adultery.
>>>
>>> You are right by the English definition of "murder". It is always at
>>> least 2 people involved in murder, not one.
>>>
>>> But Jesus COMBINES one's neighbor with one's self. Thus if you kill
>>> your neighbor, it is murder. If you kill yourself, it is also murder
>>> since the two are combined. BUT THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.
>>> I recall, the Catholic Church considered suicide a mortal sin
>>> punishable by hellfire, same as murder.
>>>
>>> But in a murder case, the murderer can repent, and maybe get a
>>> reprieve. The suicider has no chance of repentance.
>>
>> Again, if you kill yourself, you prevent yourself from killing your
>> neighbor so that indeed "You shall love your neighbor as yourself
>> (before you killed yourself)."
>>
>> Moreover, the "suicider" has repented as evident by their no longer
>> committing the sin of gluttony.
>
> The suicider commits no more sin. But that is not the proper way to be
> 'sinless'. Look at Hitler. He commits no more sins. Yet, given the
> chance his murderous rampage would continue.
It remains GOD's command that we stop (John 5:14) sinning.
> God wants people to stop sinning because they love Him, not because
> they are physically unable.
GOD simply commands (John 5:14) that we stop sinning.
> 'sinless'. Look at Hitler. He commits no more sins. Yet, given the
> chance his murderous rampage would continue.
It remains GOD's command that we stop (John 5:14) sinning.
> God wants people to stop sinning because they love Him, not because
> they are physically unable.
GOD simply commands (John 5:14) that we stop sinning.
>>>>>>> Jesus allowed himself to be
>>>>>>> killed in order to save mankind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>>>>>> murder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jehovah considers all life sacred. Jesus even implied we should LOVE
>>>>> ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
>>>>> 36:9)
>>>>
>>>> The lives of the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned are not sacred as
>>>> evident by the lake of fire being prepared for them.
>>>
>>> Is that a literal lake of fire? Or symbolic?
>>
>> It is as literal as the "KING of kings and LORD of lords" written at
>> Revelation 19:16.
>>
>> Also according to Revelation, those who reduce/minimize that which is
>> written in Revelation will have less reward in Heaven.
>
>>>>>>> killed in order to save mankind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>>>>>> murder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jehovah considers all life sacred. Jesus even implied we should LOVE
>>>>> ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
>>>>> 36:9)
>>>>
>>>> The lives of the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned are not sacred as
>>>> evident by the lake of fire being prepared for them.
>>>
>>> Is that a literal lake of fire? Or symbolic?
>>
>> It is as literal as the "KING of kings and LORD of lords" written at
>> Revelation 19:16.
>>
>> Also according to Revelation, those who reduce/minimize that which is
>> written in Revelation will have less reward in Heaven.
>
> Then please once and for all, explain to me how "death" can be thrown
> into a literal fire?
It is written that with GOD all things are possible (Matthew 19:26).
> -- Revised Standard
> Revelation 20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of
> fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire;
>
> And it symbolizes the second DEATH, not a LIFE of torture.
When GOD speaks, reality, instead of symbolism, happens.
> into a literal fire?
It is written that with GOD all things are possible (Matthew 19:26).
> -- Revised Standard
> Revelation 20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of
> fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire;
>
> And it symbolizes the second DEATH, not a LIFE of torture.
When GOD speaks, reality, instead of symbolism, happens.
>>>>> You are correct. By DEFINITION, suicide is not murder. Murder takes at
>>>>> least two people; the victim and the killer.
>>>>>
>>>>> But the key question is, what does God think of suicide?
>>>>
>>>> Judas Iscariot fell from GOD's grace not for committing suicide but
>>>> for his love of money.
>>>
>>> Actually, it should be for both.
>>
>> Not according to what is written in the Bible.
>
>>>>> least two people; the victim and the killer.
>>>>>
>>>>> But the key question is, what does God think of suicide?
>>>>
>>>> Judas Iscariot fell from GOD's grace not for committing suicide but
>>>> for his love of money.
>>>
>>> Actually, it should be for both.
>>
>> Not according to what is written in the Bible.
>
> Which is?
1 Timothy 6:10
1 Timothy 6:10
>>>> Later, the same happened to Ananias and Sapphira.
>>>>
>>>>>>> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
>>>>>>> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
>>>>>> not murder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only what God thinks about it, counts for true Christians.
>>>>
>>>> It is written that GOD changed His mind about destroying Niniveh,
>>>> thereby angering Prophet Jonah, when all it's inhabitants, including
>>>> their animals, stopped committing the sin of gluttony.
>>>
>>> Animals do not commit sins.
>>
>> Living creatures that do not commit sins also do not die.
>>
>> For it is written that the wages of sin is death.
>
>>>>
>>>>>>> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
>>>>>>> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
>>>>>> not murder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only what God thinks about it, counts for true Christians.
>>>>
>>>> It is written that GOD changed His mind about destroying Niniveh,
>>>> thereby angering Prophet Jonah, when all it's inhabitants, including
>>>> their animals, stopped committing the sin of gluttony.
>>>
>>> Animals do not commit sins.
>>
>> Living creatures that do not commit sins also do not die.
>>
>> For it is written that the wages of sin is death.
>
> That is correct. The wages of sin is NOT LIFE. (a life of torture) But
> is DEATH. (the opposite of life)
The 2nd death in the lake of fire is eternal torment.
"The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law." (1
Corinthians 15:56)
This does mean that the eternal (Mark 3:29) sin brings with it an
eternal sting (i.e. the eternal torment of the lake of fire)
> is DEATH. (the opposite of life)
The 2nd death in the lake of fire is eternal torment.
"The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law." (1
Corinthians 15:56)
This does mean that the eternal (Mark 3:29) sin brings with it an
eternal sting (i.e. the eternal torment of the lake of fire)
>>> They go by their God-given instincts.
>>
>> Following GOD-given desires/instincts is **not** following GOD.
>
>>
>> Following GOD-given desires/instincts is **not** following GOD.
>
> Animals do not care if they follow and obey God or not.
It is written in the Bible that Balam's donkey cared.
>>>>>> Again, I advise that you, James, really try to write that you're
>>>>>> "wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Always hungering for Bible truths.
>>>>
>>>>>> "wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Always hungering for Bible truths.
>>>>
>>>> Again, I really advise that you, James, **really** try to write that
>>>> you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you
>>>> are:
>>>>
>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>
>>> Just like I said previously.
>>
>>>> you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you
>>>> are:
>>>>
>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>
>>> Just like I said previously.
>>
>> Again, I really advise a 4th time here that you, James, **really** try
>> to write that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established
>> here that you are:
>>
>> So now again, how are you ?
>
>> to write that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established
>> here that you are:
>>
>> So now again, how are you ?
>
> Respectively, bored with repeating myself. Once should have been
> sufficient.
Source:
> sufficient.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/VCpuEQudr5Y/m/_3E5c7xPDQAJ
Again, I really advise a 5th time here that you, James, **really** try
zeb...@windstream.net
Nov 29, 2020, 11:27:23 AM11/29/20
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On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 10:58:40 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>James wrote:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>(Rev1:7) 11/15/20 Again here ...
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>James wrote:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>James wrote:
>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>James wrote:
>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Rev1:7) 11/06/20 Again here ...
>>>James wrote:
>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>James wrote:
>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>
Why not olives, since that is mentioned in the Bible more than figs?
>
>>>> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
>>>
>>> It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
>>> the sin of gluttony.
>>
>> No, what logically follows is that they disobeyed God's command.
>
>If that were true, they would have confessed to disobedience instead
>of gluttony.
like "overeating", etc.
>
>> That
>> was all their sin, and all their doings.
>
>Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
Yet that cannot be confirmed with Scripture.
>> That
>> was all their sin, and all their doings.
>
>Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
>
>>>>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>>
>>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>>
>>
>> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
>
>What is written is that satan is the fatIt her of all lies instead of all
>> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
>
>liars.
It is still logical. If Satan is the father of all lies, and a person
is a liar, then that person's father is Satan.
>
>>>
>>>> God determines for
>>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>>
>>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>>
>> Yes, they also accused Jesus as being in league with the Devil.
>
>What is written is that the devil is cursed to be terribly **not**
>hungry for food; now only able to eat dust, for the rest of his life,
>because of deceiving Eve to commit gluttony.
You are a mile away from the truth. Satan doesn't eat literal dust,
>>>
>>>> God determines for
>>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>>
>>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>>
>> Yes, they also accused Jesus as being in league with the Devil.
>
>What is written is that the devil is cursed to be terribly **not**
>hungry for food; now only able to eat dust, for the rest of his life,
>because of deceiving Eve to commit gluttony.
because he is an angelic being, who doesn't need physical food.
And the Bible mentions nowhere that Eve committed gluttony. You
haven't showed me the Bible proof yet. Either show me, or forever
leave it alone.
But I know you won't show me, because it nowhere says that.
>
>> And
>> they also called him a drunkard.
>
>A drunkard commits gluttony with fermented grape juice.
self-murder. (1 John 3:15)
>
>>>>> Moreover, it is described in the Bible that GOD helped Samson, His
>>>>> annointed, kill himself by giving him the super-human strength he
>>>>> needed to pull down the pillars to which he was chained.
>>>>
>>>> Self death for a good cause is not murder.
>>>
>>> Suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not adultery.
>>>
>>
>> When the stock market crashed, many who lost a lot of money killed
>> themselves. Is that not murdering our own body for no good cause.?
>
>Again, suicide is not murder just as consummating a marriage is not
>adultery.
>
>>>> Jesus allowed himself to be
>>>> killed in order to save mankind.
>>>
>>> Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>>> murder.
>>
>> Jehovah considers all life sacred. Jesus even implied we should LOVE
>> ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
>> 36:9)
>
>The lives of the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned are not sacred as
>evident by the lake of fire being prepared for them.
>
>> You are correct. By DEFINITION, suicide is not murder. Murder takes at
>> least two people; the victim and the killer.
>>
>> But the key question is, what does God think of suicide?
>
>Judas Iscariot fell from GOD's grace not for committing suicide but
>for his love of money.
is self-murder.
>
>Later, the same happened to Ananias and Sapphira.
>
>>>> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
>>>> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
>>>
>>> Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
>>> not murder.
>>
>> Only what God thinks about it, counts for true Christians.
>
>It is written that GOD changed His mind about destroying Niniveh,
>thereby angering Prophet Jonah, when all it's inhabitants, including
>their animals, stopped committing the sin of gluttony.
evil ways and from the violence they practice." (Jonah 3:8) Overeating
is not "violence".
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/VCpuEQudr5Y/zwb02PSyBwAJ
>>>
>>> Again, I advise that you, James, really try to write that you're
>>> "wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you are:
>>>
>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>
>> Always hungering for Bible truths.
>
>Again, I really advise that you, James, **really** try to write that
>you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you
>are:
>
>So now again, how are you ?
If it pleases you, "wonderfully hungry".
>>> Again, I advise that you, James, really try to write that you're
>>> "wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you are:
>>>
>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>
>> Always hungering for Bible truths.
>
>Again, I really advise that you, James, **really** try to write that
>you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here that you
>are:
>
>So now again, how are you ?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 29, 2020, 11:41:46 AM11/29/20
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Eternally condemned James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Eternally condemned James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Eternally condemned James wrote:
>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>Eternally condemned James wrote:
>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
blaspheming (Mark 3:29) against Him.
You, James, have just committed here an eternal sin (i.e. one that
will never be forgiven by GOD.
While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO ! ! !
Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ
<begin trichotomy>
(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).
(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.
(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.
<end trichotomy>
Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com
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19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.
<end trichotomy>
Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com
+++
someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
HeartDoc Andrew <><
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Nov 30, 2020, 1:45:57 AM11/30/20
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(Rev1:7) 11/30/20 Again here ...
Eternally condemned James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> "The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Deceptive Spirit
Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/VCpuEQudr5Y/m/2LImGbA4AQAJ
Your calling the Holy Spirit a "Deceptive Spirit" here is your
blaspheming (Mark 3:29) against Him.
You, James, have just committed here an eternal sin (i.e. one that
will never be forgiven by GOD).
While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO ! ! !
Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ
<begin trichotomy>
(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).
(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
Eternally condemned James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Eternally condemned James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Eternally condemned James wrote:
>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>Eternally condemned James wrote:
>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/VCpuEQudr5Y/m/2LImGbA4AQAJ
Your calling the Holy Spirit a "Deceptive Spirit" here is your
blaspheming (Mark 3:29) against Him.
will never be forgiven by GOD).
While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO ! ! !
Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ
<begin trichotomy>
(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).
(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.
(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.
<end trichotomy>
Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com
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19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.
<end trichotomy>
Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com
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someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>
zeb...@windstream.net
Nov 30, 2020, 8:21:42 AM11/30/20
to
>
>> The time of prophesying is
>> passed. And the Bible's Holy Spirit doesn't say.
>
>It is written in the Bible that the Holy Spirit speaks what He hears.
accomplishes God's will:
The Bible has several meanings for the word "spirit". Depending how
the Bible uses the word, determines the particular meaning that it
has.
(The same is true in many languages. For example, the English word
"spike". It can mean (1)a naillike fastener, (2) a small fish, (3) to
add alcohol to a drink, etc. Thus regardless of whether the original
word comes from Latin (spica), it can stray away from that original
meaning.)
But the Bible's use of the word does not stray quite so far away from
its original meaning of 'force in motion'. The Bible's use of "spirit"
(Hebrew "ruach" and Greek "pneuma") can mean:
(1) wind. Ex 10:13, "...the LORD made an east wind [ruach] blow across
the land...
(2) the vital force in living creatures. Such as Psalm 146:4 quoted
earlier.
(3) spirit persons. Such as God and his angels and Jesus in Heaven.
See Mt 8:16; Joh 4:24; 1 Ki 22:21.
(4) God's active force. Commonly called Holy Spirit. See He 2:4.
All these meanings have something in common: They all refer to that
which is invisible to human sight and which gives evidence of force in
motion. And such invisible force is capable of producing visible
effects.
>
>>>
>>>> Just because figs are mentioned in a few
>>>> places, doesn't mean that was the food from the tree in the middle of
>>>> the garden.
>>>
>>> "The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Holy Spirit (again
>>> referring to Genesis 3:12-13)
>>
>> We can test to see if you really have Holy Spirit by answering this
>> question:
>>
>> Which of these are NOT a Bible doctrine:
>>
>> a. An immortal soul.
>> b. God is a Trinity.
>> c. In Heaven, Jesus and God are equal.
>> d. love your enemies.
>
>Actually, the real test is what is written in the Bible which is that
>"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
>Corinthians 12:3)
>
>Here's HeartDoc Andrew publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" to prove that
>he's annointed by the Holy Spirit:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyg90JPUs7o
>
>Now it is your turn, James, to prove likewise by uploading a video of
>yourself saying "Jesus is LORD" and sharing the link in this thread.
>
>It is written in the Bible that we're to prove all things.
>
>>>> There were multiple trees, unlikely they were all fig
>>>> trees. So it could be any edible fruit bearing tree.
>>>
>>> The reason why figs are the only fruit mentioned in multiple
>>> significant places in the Bible is because they are the fruit from the
>>> tree of knowledge.
>>
>> The Bible doesn't tell the name of the fruit. I would say the olive
>> tree is named more than the fig tree, so it must have been an olive
>> tree?
>
>It is written that Eve "saw that the fruit of the tree was good for
>food and pleasing to the eye" (Genesis 3:6) which would not be the
>case for olives, which are much smaller with an unpleasant look and
>smell compared to figs.
etc? God could have made them all grow together in Eden, since nothing
is impossible with Him.
>
>>>>>>>> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
>>>>>>> the sin of gluttony.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, what logically follows is that they disobeyed God's command.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that were true, they would have confessed to disobedience instead
>>>>> of gluttony.
>>>>
>>>> Paul tells us what it is:
>>>>
>>>> -- Living Bible
>>>> Romans 5:19 Adam caused many to be sinners because he disobeyed God,
>>>> and Christ caused many to be made acceptable to God because he obeyed.
>>>
>>> Adam disobeyed GOD by committing the sin of gluttony.
>>>
>>> Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name Adam's sin.
>>
>> On the contrary, he mentions the sin of disobedience.
>
>Apostle Paul did not write that Adam committed a sin called
>disobedience.
sin. Rom 5:19a:
"For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners," (KJV)
"Adam caused many to be sinners because he disobeyed God," (Living
Bible)
"For just as through the disobedience of one person the many were made
sinners," (NAB)
>
>Moreover, there is no mention in the Bible that when Jacob disobeyed
>GOD's command to let Him go while wrestling with GOD that the
>patriarch committed a sin.
A person can't even look at God and continue to live, let alone
wrestling with him. (why not get Hulk Hogan?)
-- New King James
Exodus 33:20 But He said, "You cannot see My face; for no man shall
see Me, and live.''
God is the One who created trillions of suns, many greater than ours.
God is literally awesome and beyond our comprehension.
>
>> With your naming the fig tree, and gluttony, you are adding to the
>> Bible those things.
>
>Again, it is written in the Bible that Adam&Eve covered themselves
>with fig leaves upon realizing they were naked as they ate the tree's
>fruit.
that to the Bible. Be careful not to do that or you will be as bad as
some Bible translators who removed God's name from about 7000 times
from their OT translations. What is your preferred translation?
>
>Therefore, logically, the tree of knowledge was a fig tree.
anyway. Adam disobeyed one of God's commands regardless what the fruit
is, so he is guilty of the sin of disobedience.
>
>"The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Holy Spirit (again
>referring to Genesis 3:12-13
>
"18. For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the
prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God
shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19. And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of
this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life,
and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in
this book." (KJV)
>> We are not supposed to add or take away, from the
>> Bible.
>
>Those who deny gluttony is A&E's first (aka Original) sin are trying
>to take away from the Bible.
the Scriptures.
>
>Indeed, "the sin" Apostle Paul writes about at Hebrews 12:1 is without
>doubt the sin of gluttony though still unnamed.
>
>Every living creature on planet Earth is guilty of the sin of gluttony
>if they don't know (Hosea 4:6) the right amount of daily food and
>don't have GOD's help to http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23)
>themselves from committing gluttony (Proverbs 23:2)
disorder?
>
>>> Moreover, the fact that GOD forgave A&E as evident by His making
>>> clothes for them after their confessing to their sin of gluttony means
>>> that indeed the sin they committed was most definitely gluttony.
>>
>> Where does the Bible say they said their sin was of gluttony?
>
>It is written that both Adam & Eve confessed to eating the fruit that
>they didn't need (i.e. no one needs to die).
>
>The absolutely only sin that is associated with eating fruit is
>gluttony.
>
>>> "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us
>>> our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)
>>>
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> was all their sin, and all their doings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
>>>>
>>>> See Rom 5:19.
>>>
>>> Again, Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name
>>> Adam's sin.
>>
>> You are looking past it. It was one of disobedience.
>
>Disobedience is not sin as evident by the Biblical example of Jacob
>disobeying GOD's command to let Him go during their wrestling match.
>
>>>>>>>>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>>>>>>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is written is that satan is the father of all lies instead of all
>>>>> liars.
>>>>
>>>> Yes that is what it literally says. So if you are a constant liar, who
>>>> is your father?
>>>
>>> The same as before you became a constant liar.
>>>
>>> However, if you unwisely choose to blaspheme against (Mark 3:29) the
>>> Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth, then you become a child of
>>> the devil, who does enter into your heart (Matthew 15:19), just as he
>>> did enter Simon Peter and later, Judas Iscariot, if you do not
>>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) your heart.
>>>
>>> Indeed, it is the devil in your heart, who prevents you from replying
>>> appropriately to being greeted here by someone who is wonderfully
>>> hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy Spirit, Who
>>> causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger.
>>
>> Just quit taking those pills, and you will be fine.
>
>I am not taking any pills.
>
>Ask GOD to rebuke the devil in your heart (Matthew 15:19) and
>hopefully He is willing to do this so that you'd be fine.
"Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will
flee from you." (KJV)
>
>>>>>>>> God determines for
>>>>>>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>>>>>>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>>>>>>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, they also accused Jesus as being in league with the Devil.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is written is that the devil is cursed to be terribly **not**
>>>>> hungry for food; now only able to eat dust, for the rest of his life,
>>>>> because of deceiving Eve to commit gluttony.
>>>>
>>>> The Bible doesn't say she committed gluttony.
>>>
>>> Instead, it is written in the Bible that Eve confessed to gluttony
>>> while blaming the devil for causing her to do it.
>>
>> She never confessed gluttony. You are adding that to the Bible. (2 Tim
>> 3:16)
>
>There really is no other sin associated with eating fruit except the
>sin of gluttony.
>
>>>> You might well say she
>>>> committed Bulimia.
>>>
>>> Bulimia is a disease that is a consequence of committing the sin of
>>> gluttony.
>>
>> Which the Bible doesn't mention.
>
>Which proves you to be a liar (i.e. that the devil, whose native
>tongue is lying, is indeed in your heart) in your claiming that you
>only know about that which is mentioned in the Bible.
is just speculation. But otherwise we just quote Scripture.
>
>>>> The Bible says Adam sinned by disobedience, thus so
>>>> did Eve since he did the same thing she did.
>>>
>>> There is no sin called disobedience.
>>
>> Disobedience to God and Jesus' laws, are a necessity. To sin against
>> God is to disobey him. sin against Jesus, l
>
>Again, disobedience is not sin as evident by the Biblical example of
>Jacob disobeying GOD's command to let Him go during their wrestling
>match.
Him more than you.
figs? Do you hear voices in your head?
>
>>> Moreover, if you kill yourself, you prevent yourself from killing your
>>> neighbor so that indeed "You shall love your neighbor as yourself
>>> (before you killed yourself)."
>>
>> God believes all life is precious.
>
>The lake of fire (Matthew 25:41) being prepared for the eternally
>(Mark 3:29) condemned proves otherwise.
disobedient child, would you soak him in gasoline and lite it for
punishment? Would not the authorities arrest you?
Well they accuse God of worse things. Those He allegedly burns alive
can't even escape through death. These are things that Satan would do,
not a God of love. (1 John 4:8) So guess where those sadistic ideas
came from.
>
>> I just can't see God not condemning
>> a suicide
>
>That would be the devil in your heart (Jeremiah 17:9) blinding you.
>
>>>>>>>> Jesus allowed himself to be
>>>>>>>> killed in order to save mankind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>>>>>>> murder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jehovah considers all life sacred. Jesus even implied we should LOVE
>>>>>> ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
>>>>>> 36:9)
>>>>>
>>>>> The lives of the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned are not sacred as
>>>>> evident by the lake of fire being prepared for them.
>>>>
>>>> Is that a literal lake of fire? Or symbolic?
>>>
>>> It is as literal as the "KING of kings and LORD of lords" written at
>>> Revelation 19:16.
>>>
>>> Also according to Revelation, those who reduce/minimize that which is
>>> written in Revelation will have less reward in Heaven.
>>
>> Then please once and for all, explain to me how "death" can be thrown
>> into a literal fire?
>
>It is written that with GOD all things are possible (Matthew 19:26).
when talking about Jesus. Acts 17:2,3,
" 2. And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three
sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
3. Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and
risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto
you, is Christ." (KJV)
That God can do anything righteous, (He cannot lie) is a catch-all
phrase that can answer any question. But as shown above, God wants us
to reason on the Bible where possible.
>
>> -- Revised Standard
>> Revelation 20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of
>> fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire;
>>
>> And it symbolizes the second DEATH, not a LIFE of torture.
>
>When GOD speaks, reality, instead of symbolism, happens.
of it?
>
>>>>>> You are correct. By DEFINITION, suicide is not murder. Murder takes at
>>>>>> least two people; the victim and the killer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the key question is, what does God think of suicide?
>>>>>
>>>>> Judas Iscariot fell from GOD's grace not for committing suicide but
>>>>> for his love of money.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, it should be for both.
>>>
>>> Not according to what is written in the Bible.
>>
>> Which is?
>
>1 Timothy 6:10
for what he did and even gave the money back. But he then committed
self-murder which put the final nail in his coffin.
>
>>>>> Later, the same happened to Ananias and Sapphira.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
>>>>>>>> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
>>>>>>> not murder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only what God thinks about it, counts for true Christians.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is written that GOD changed His mind about destroying Niniveh,
>>>>> thereby angering Prophet Jonah, when all it's inhabitants, including
>>>>> their animals, stopped committing the sin of gluttony.
>>>>
>>>> Animals do not commit sins.
>>>
>>> Living creatures that do not commit sins also do not die.
>>>
>>> For it is written that the wages of sin is death.
>>
>> That is correct. The wages of sin is NOT LIFE. (a life of torture) But
>> is DEATH. (the opposite of life)
>
>The 2nd death in the lake of fire is eternal torment.
>
>"The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law." (1
>Corinthians 15:56)
>
>This does mean that the eternal (Mark 3:29) sin brings with it an
>eternal sting (i.e. the eternal torment of the lake of fire)
AND TORTURE ARE NOT BEDFELLOWS!!
>
>>>> They go by their God-given instincts.
>>>
>>> Following GOD-given desires/instincts is **not** following GOD.
>>
>> Animals do not care if they follow and obey God or not.
>
>It is written in the Bible that Balam's donkey cared.
talked. No other animal can carry on a logical conversation, like it
did. That was one of God's miracles. So I repeat myself:
Animals do not care if they follow and obey God or not. They run by
instinct, not morality.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Dec 1, 2020, 12:32:11 AM12/1/20
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(Rev1:7) 12/01/20 Again here ...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Dec 2, 2020, 4:38:06 AM12/2/20
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(Rev1:7) 12/02/20 Again here ...
zeb...@windstream.net
Dec 2, 2020, 6:42:55 PM12/2/20
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from God.
>
>>>
>>>> Just because figs are mentioned in a few
>>>> places, doesn't mean that was the food from the tree in the middle of
>>>> the garden.
>>>
>>> "The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Holy Spirit (again
>>> referring to Genesis 3:12-13)
>>
>> We can test to see if you really have Holy Spirit by answering this
>> question:
>>
>> Which of these are NOT a Bible doctrine:
>>
>> a. An immortal soul.
>> b. God is a Trinity.
>> c. In Heaven, Jesus and God are equal.
>> d. love your enemies.
>
>Actually, the real test is what is written in the Bible which is that
>"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
>Corinthians 12:3)
>
>Here's HeartDoc Andrew publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" to prove that
>he's annointed by the Holy Spirit:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyg90JPUs7o
>
>Now it is your turn, James, to prove likewise by uploading a video of
>yourself saying "Jesus is LORD" and sharing the link in this thread.
>
>It is written in the Bible that we're to prove all things.
>
>>>> There were multiple trees, unlikely they were all fig
>>>> trees. So it could be any edible fruit bearing tree.
>>>
>>> The reason why figs are the only fruit mentioned in multiple
>>> significant places in the Bible is because they are the fruit from the
>>> tree of knowledge.
>>
>> The Bible doesn't tell the name of the fruit. I would say the olive
>> tree is named more than the fig tree, so it must have been an olive
>> tree?
>
>It is written that Eve "saw that the fruit of the tree was good for
>food and pleasing to the eye" (Genesis 3:6) which would not be the
>case for olives, which are much smaller with an unpleasant look and
>smell compared to figs.
>
>>>>>>>> Also there is no mention of gluttony associated with A&E.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It logically follows that the sin that happens when A&E ate figs is
>>>>>>> the sin of gluttony.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, what logically follows is that they disobeyed God's command.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that were true, they would have confessed to disobedience instead
>>>>> of gluttony.
>>>>
>>>> Paul tells us what it is:
>>>>
>>>> -- Living Bible
>>>> Romans 5:19 Adam caused many to be sinners because he disobeyed God,
>>>> and Christ caused many to be made acceptable to God because he obeyed.
>>>
>>> Adam disobeyed GOD by committing the sin of gluttony.
>>>
>>> Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name Adam's sin.
>>
>> On the contrary, he mentions the sin of disobedience.
>
>Apostle Paul did not write that Adam committed a sin called
>disobedience.
>
>Moreover, there is no mention in the Bible that when Jacob disobeyed
>GOD's command to let Him go while wrestling with GOD that the
>patriarch committed a sin.
(which you can't), you would be vaporized:
-- New American with Apocrypha
lives.
>
>> With your naming the fig tree, and gluttony, you are adding to the
>> Bible those things.
>
>Again, it is written in the Bible that Adam&Eve covered themselves
>with fig leaves upon realizing they were naked as they ate the tree's
>fruit.
>
>Therefore, logically, the tree of knowledge was a fig tree.
>"The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Holy Spirit (again
>referring to Genesis 3:12-13
>
>> We are not supposed to add or take away, from the
>> Bible.
>
>Those who deny gluttony is A&E's first (aka Original) sin are trying
>to take away from the Bible.
>
>Indeed, "the sin" Apostle Paul writes about at Hebrews 12:1 is without
>doubt the sin of gluttony though still unnamed.
adding to the Bible.
>
>Every living creature on planet Earth is guilty of the sin of gluttony
>if they don't know (Hosea 4:6) the right amount of daily food and
>don't have GOD's help to http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23)
>themselves from committing gluttony (Proverbs 23:2)
>
>>> Moreover, the fact that GOD forgave A&E as evident by His making
>>> clothes for them after their confessing to their sin of gluttony means
>>> that indeed the sin they committed was most definitely gluttony.
>>
>> Where does the Bible say they said their sin was of gluttony?
>
>It is written that both Adam & Eve confessed to eating the fruit that
>they didn't need (i.e. no one needs to die).
>
>The absolutely only sin that is associated with eating fruit is
>gluttony.
>
>>> "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us
>>> our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)
>>>
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> was all their sin, and all their doings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
>>>>
>>>> See Rom 5:19.
>>>
>>> Again, Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name
>>> Adam's sin.
>>
>> You are looking past it. It was one of disobedience.
>
>Disobedience is not sin as evident by the Biblical example of Jacob
>disobeying GOD's command to let Him go during their wrestling match.
If a person broke all of the 10 commandments, is that not sins?
>The absolutely only sin that is associated with eating fruit is
>gluttony.
>
>>> "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us
>>> our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)
>>>
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> was all their sin, and all their doings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
>>>>
>>>> See Rom 5:19.
>>>
>>> Again, Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name
>>> Adam's sin.
>>
>> You are looking past it. It was one of disobedience.
>
>Disobedience is not sin as evident by the Biblical example of Jacob
>disobeying GOD's command to let Him go during their wrestling match.
>
>>>>>>>>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>>>>>>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is written is that satan is the father of all lies instead of all
>>>>> liars.
>>>>
>>>> Yes that is what it literally says. So if you are a constant liar, who
>>>> is your father?
>>>
>>> The same as before you became a constant liar.
>>>
>>> However, if you unwisely choose to blaspheme against (Mark 3:29) the
>>> Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth, then you become a child of
>>> the devil, who does enter into your heart (Matthew 15:19), just as he
>>> did enter Simon Peter and later, Judas Iscariot, if you do not
>>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) your heart.
>>>
>>> Indeed, it is the devil in your heart, who prevents you from replying
>>> appropriately to being greeted here by someone who is wonderfully
>>> hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy Spirit, Who
>>> causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger.
>>
>> Just quit taking those pills, and you will be fine.
>
>I am not taking any pills.
>
>Ask GOD to rebuke the devil in your heart (Matthew 15:19) and
>hopefully He is willing to do this so that you'd be fine.
They also accused Jesus as having those powers by the Devil.
>>>>>>>>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>>>>>>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is written is that satan is the father of all lies instead of all
>>>>> liars.
>>>>
>>>> Yes that is what it literally says. So if you are a constant liar, who
>>>> is your father?
>>>
>>> The same as before you became a constant liar.
>>>
>>> However, if you unwisely choose to blaspheme against (Mark 3:29) the
>>> Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth, then you become a child of
>>> the devil, who does enter into your heart (Matthew 15:19), just as he
>>> did enter Simon Peter and later, Judas Iscariot, if you do not
>>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) your heart.
>>>
>>> Indeed, it is the devil in your heart, who prevents you from replying
>>> appropriately to being greeted here by someone who is wonderfully
>>> hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy Spirit, Who
>>> causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger.
>>
>> Just quit taking those pills, and you will be fine.
>
>I am not taking any pills.
>
>Ask GOD to rebuke the devil in your heart (Matthew 15:19) and
>hopefully He is willing to do this so that you'd be fine.
>
>>>>>>>> God determines for
>>>>>>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>>>>>>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>>>>>>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, they also accused Jesus as being in league with the Devil.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is written is that the devil is cursed to be terribly **not**
>>>>> hungry for food; now only able to eat dust, for the rest of his life,
>>>>> because of deceiving Eve to commit gluttony.
>>>>
>>>> The Bible doesn't say she committed gluttony.
>>>
>>> Instead, it is written in the Bible that Eve confessed to gluttony
>>> while blaming the devil for causing her to do it.
>>
>> She never confessed gluttony. You are adding that to the Bible. (2 Tim
>> 3:16)
>
>There really is no other sin associated with eating fruit except the
>sin of gluttony.
If God told you not to cross a street, but you did, you would be
guilty of the sin of disobedience.
>
>>>> You might well say she
>>>> committed Bulimia.
>>>
>>> Bulimia is a disease that is a consequence of committing the sin of
>>> gluttony.
>>
>> Which the Bible doesn't mention.
>
>Which proves you to be a liar (i.e. that the devil, whose native
>tongue is lying, is indeed in your heart) in your claiming that you
>only know about that which is mentioned in the Bible.
Concerning the true religion of the Bible, I only know what the Bible
tells me.
>
>>>> The Bible says Adam sinned by disobedience, thus so
>>>> did Eve since he did the same thing she did.
>>>
>>> There is no sin called disobedience.
>>
>> Disobedience to God and Jesus' laws, are a necessity. To sin against
>> God is to disobey him. sin against Jesus, l
>
>Again, disobedience is not sin as evident by the Biblical example of
>Jacob disobeying GOD's command to let Him go during their wrestling
>match.
>
>>> Moreover, if you kill yourself, you prevent yourself from killing your
>>> neighbor so that indeed "You shall love your neighbor as yourself
>>> (before you killed yourself)."
>>
>> God believes all life is precious.
>
>The lake of fire (Matthew 25:41) being prepared for the eternally
>(Mark 3:29) condemned proves otherwise.
>
>> I just can't see God not condemning
>> a suicide
>
>That would be the devil in your heart (Jeremiah 17:9) blinding you.
of God.
-- Revised Standard
Romans 5:12 Therefore as sin came into the world through one man and
death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men
sinned--
>
>> God wants people to stop sinning because they love Him, not because
>> they are physically unable.
>
>GOD simply commands (John 5:14) that we stop sinning.
>
>>>>>>>> Jesus allowed himself to be
>>>>>>>> killed in order to save mankind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>>>>>>> murder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jehovah considers all life sacred. Jesus even implied we should LOVE
>>>>>> ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
>>>>>> 36:9)
>>>>>
>>>>> The lives of the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned are not sacred as
>>>>> evident by the lake of fire being prepared for them.
>>>>
>>>> Is that a literal lake of fire? Or symbolic?
>>>
>>> It is as literal as the "KING of kings and LORD of lords" written at
>>> Revelation 19:16.
>>>
>>> Also according to Revelation, those who reduce/minimize that which is
>>> written in Revelation will have less reward in Heaven.
>>
>> Then please once and for all, explain to me how "death" can be thrown
>> into a literal fire?
>
>It is written that with GOD all things are possible (Matthew 19:26).
-- American Standard
Hebrews 6:18 that by two immutable things, in which it is impossible
for God to lie, we may have a strong encouragement, who have fled for
refuge to lay hold of the hope set before us:
>
>> -- Revised Standard
>> Revelation 20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of
>> fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire;
>>
>> And it symbolizes the second DEATH, not a LIFE of torture.
>
>When GOD speaks, reality, instead of symbolism, happens.
>
>>>>>> You are correct. By DEFINITION, suicide is not murder. Murder takes at
>>>>>> least two people; the victim and the killer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the key question is, what does God think of suicide?
>>>>>
>>>>> Judas Iscariot fell from GOD's grace not for committing suicide but
>>>>> for his love of money.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, it should be for both.
>>>
>>> Not according to what is written in the Bible.
>>
>> Which is?
>
>1 Timothy 6:10
>
>>>>> Later, the same happened to Ananias and Sapphira.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
>>>>>>>> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
>>>>>>> not murder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only what God thinks about it, counts for true Christians.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is written that GOD changed His mind about destroying Niniveh,
>>>>> thereby angering Prophet Jonah, when all it's inhabitants, including
>>>>> their animals, stopped committing the sin of gluttony.
>>>>
>>>> Animals do not commit sins.
>>>
>>> Living creatures that do not commit sins also do not die.
>>>
>>> For it is written that the wages of sin is death.
>>
>> That is correct. The wages of sin is NOT LIFE. (a life of torture) But
>> is DEATH. (the opposite of life)
>
>The 2nd death in the lake of fire is eternal torment.
- International English
1 John 2:17 The world is passing away and everything in the world
which men want is passing away too, but the person who does what God
wants lives forever.
So those in that claimed literal lake of fire are living forever, are
they not? Then they must have done what God wants since they are
'living forever'.
>
>"The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law." (1
>Corinthians 15:56)
>
>This does mean that the eternal (Mark 3:29) sin brings with it an
>eternal sting (i.e. the eternal torment of the lake of fire)
>
>>>> They go by their God-given instincts.
>>>
>>> Following GOD-given desires/instincts is **not** following GOD.
>>
>> Animals do not care if they follow and obey God or not.
>
>It is written in the Bible that Balam's donkey cared.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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eternally condemned James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
eternally condemned James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> eternally condemned James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> eternally condemned James wrote:
>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>> eternally condemned James wrote:
>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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>
>You, James, have just committed here an eternal sin (i.e. one that
>will never be forgiven by GOD).
That proves that you do not speak through the real Holy Spirit, since
you are in error here. The real Holy Spirit does not commit errors.
Ted
Dec 6, 2020, 1:49:24 PM12/6/20
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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eternally condemned Ted wrote:
> JW wrote:
>> eternally condemned Ted wrote:
>> > JW wrote:
>> >> eternally condemned Ted wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>> powerful ones)
>> >> >> >>>>>>> traveled about 5000 miles (2 years x 7 miles/day)
>> >> >> >>>>>>> from the very far
>> >> >> >>>>>>> East (i.e. China) to bring the 2 yo LORD Jesus, Who
>> >> >> >>>>>>> was residing in a
>> >> >> >>>>>>> house in Bethlehem, "gifts of gold, frankincense and
>> >> >> >>>>>>> myrrh" (Matthew 2:11)
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> No it doesn't.
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Actually it is as described.
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> <begin Holy Spirit-guided exegesis>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> "When Herod realized that he had been outwitted by the
>> >> >> >>>>> Magi, he was
>> >> >> >>>>> furious, and he gave orders to kill all the boys in
>> >> >> >>>>> Bethlehem and its
>> >> >> >>>>> vicinity who were two years old and under, in
>> >> >> >>>>> accordance with the time
>> >> >> >>>>> he had learned from the Magi." (Matthew 2:16)
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> The two years was possibly (Matthew 19:26) spent on the
>> >> >> >>>>> Silk Road
>> >> >> >>>>> which is known to have been in use to carry silk from
>> >> >> >>>>> China to Rome at
>> >> >> >>>>> the time:
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> https://www.britannica.com/topic/Silk-Road-trade-route
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Distance as the crow flies west from Shanghai to
>> >> >> >>>>> Jerusalem is 4927.5
>> >> >> >>>>> miles which would be consistent with "about 5000 miles"
>> >> >> >>>>> by the Silk Road.
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Source:
>
> https://www.freemaptools.com/how-far-is-it-between-jerusalem_-israel-and-shanghai_-china.htm
>
>> >> >> >>>>> <end exegesis>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Source:
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/A1X0vJ6wDa8/0ETlPkNFAQAJ
>
>> >> >> >>>>> In the interim, I am simply wonderfully hungry (
>> >> >> >>>>> http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) and hope you, JW, also
>> >> >> >>>> guys ...
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> The number of Magi is irrelevant here as is their gender.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Moreover, Matthew not knowing their gender is consistent
>> >> >> >>> with their
>> >> >> >>> being very unlike the Persians (i.e. from northern Iraq
>> >> >> >>> or Iran) whom
>> >> >> >>> the Jews would have been able to recognize so as to also
>> >> >> >>> recognize their gender.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> KJV translates the word for them as "wise men".
>
>> >> >> > Clearly a mistranslation because the context of asking
>> >> >> > old King Herod
>> >> >> > of Israel the whereabouts of the new King of Israel was not
>> >> >> > wise.
>
>> >> >> > >> Matthew doesn't
>> >> >> >> present a physical description or a cultural description
>> >> >> >> that would
>> >> >> >> lead to the conclusions you present about them.
>
>> >> >> > Matthew used the genderless word Magi in reference to
>> >> >> > them. This does
>> >> >> > mean that he did not know either their gender or their
>> >> >> > ethnicity. This
>> >> >> > lack of knowledge would be consistent with the Magi being
>> >> >> > Chinese.
>
>> >> >> > >>> "The Magi are Chinese." -- Holy Spirit (referring to
>> >> >> > >>> Matthew 2:16)
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Taking your continued interest here to mean "yes, you
>> >> >> >>> have a healthy
>> >> >> >>> appetite," I share with you, JW, that it's really
>> >> >> >>> appetite=hunger) and advise that you try to write that
>> >> >> >>> you're
>> >> >> >>> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that
>
>> >> >> > Again, I advise that you, JW, really try to write that
>> >> >> > you're
>> >> >> > "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you
>> >> >> my mouth, as well as Matthew's pen, so I am done.
>
>> >> > Dr. Chung is only trying to save your soul, JW. Have some
>> >> > respect, will ya?
>> >
>> >
>> >> How does falsely claiming the New Testament says the Wise Guys
>> >> came from China when the Good Book says no such thing bring me
>> >> closer to salvation?
>> >
>> > Does Chung claim the three wise men were from China? LOL.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/A1X0vJ6wDa8/M-gQek1AAgAJ
No. The Magi were **not** three wise men.
>> That's exactly his position.
No it is not.
See above.
>> Quoting from above, he wrote, "It is
>> described in the Bible that the Magi ... traveled about 5000 miles
>> (2 years x 7 miles/day) from the very far East (i.e. China)".
Nothing about the Magi being three wise men in what you quote.
>> > Well, I guess it's remotely possible. The Bible just says they're
>> > from the east.
Actually what is described in the Bible is that they'd travelled two
years from the East.
>> That's my point. He's presenting his own conjecture as biblical
>> fact.
It remains a Biblical fact that what is described in the Bible is that
the Magi travelled two years from the East.
> Then he's lying even about the Bible.
LIE.
To lie before those of us who are wonderfully hungry (
http://bit.ly/Philippians_12 ) in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, is to blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against
Him, Who He is the Spirit of truth.
You, Ted, are now eternally condemned.
You would have been better off had you never been born b/c you will
now be cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD more than ever.
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) in the Holy
> JW wrote:
>> eternally condemned Ted wrote:
>> > JW wrote:
>> >> eternally condemned Ted wrote:
>> >> > JW wrote:
>> >> >> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >> > JW wrote in part:
>> >> >> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >> >> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >> >>> JW wrote in part:
>> >> >> >>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>> JW wrote in part:
>> >> >> >>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> It is described in the Bible that the Magi (aka
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> powerful ones)
>> >> >> >>>>>>> traveled about 5000 miles (2 years x 7 miles/day)
>> >> >> >>>>>>> from the very far
>> >> >> >>>>>>> East (i.e. China) to bring the 2 yo LORD Jesus, Who
>> >> >> >>>>>>> was residing in a
>> >> >> >>>>>>> house in Bethlehem, "gifts of gold, frankincense and
>> >> >> >>>>>>> myrrh" (Matthew 2:11)
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> No it doesn't.
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Actually it is as described.
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> <begin Holy Spirit-guided exegesis>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> "When Herod realized that he had been outwitted by the
>> >> >> >>>>> Magi, he was
>> >> >> >>>>> furious, and he gave orders to kill all the boys in
>> >> >> >>>>> Bethlehem and its
>> >> >> >>>>> vicinity who were two years old and under, in
>> >> >> >>>>> accordance with the time
>> >> >> >>>>> he had learned from the Magi." (Matthew 2:16)
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> The two years was possibly (Matthew 19:26) spent on the
>> >> >> >>>>> Silk Road
>> >> >> >>>>> which is known to have been in use to carry silk from
>> >> >> >>>>> China to Rome at
>> >> >> >>>>> the time:
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> https://www.britannica.com/topic/Silk-Road-trade-route
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Distance as the crow flies west from Shanghai to
>> >> >> >>>>> Jerusalem is 4927.5
>> >> >> >>>>> miles which would be consistent with "about 5000 miles"
>> >> >> >>>>> by the Silk Road.
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Source:
>
> https://www.freemaptools.com/how-far-is-it-between-jerusalem_-israel-and-shanghai_-china.htm
>
>> >> >> >>>>> <end exegesis>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Source:
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/A1X0vJ6wDa8/0ETlPkNFAQAJ
>
>> >> >> >>>>> In the interim, I am simply wonderfully hungry (
>> >> >> >>>>> http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) and hope you, JW, also
>> >> >> >>>>> have a healthy appetite too.
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> So how are you ?
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Matthew only describes that an unknown number of wise
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> So how are you ?
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> guys ...
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> The number of Magi is irrelevant here as is their gender.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Moreover, Matthew not knowing their gender is consistent
>> >> >> >>> with their
>> >> >> >>> being very unlike the Persians (i.e. from northern Iraq
>> >> >> >>> or Iran) whom
>> >> >> >>> the Jews would have been able to recognize so as to also
>> >> >> >>> recognize their gender.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> KJV translates the word for them as "wise men".
>
>> >> >> > Clearly a mistranslation because the context of asking
>> >> >> > old King Herod
>> >> >> > of Israel the whereabouts of the new King of Israel was not
>> >> >> > wise.
>
>> >> >> > >> Matthew doesn't
>> >> >> >> present a physical description or a cultural description
>> >> >> >> that would
>> >> >> >> lead to the conclusions you present about them.
>
>> >> >> > Matthew used the genderless word Magi in reference to
>> >> >> > them. This does
>> >> >> > mean that he did not know either their gender or their
>> >> >> > ethnicity. This
>> >> >> > lack of knowledge would be consistent with the Magi being
>> >> >> > Chinese.
>
>> >> >> > >>> "The Magi are Chinese." -- Holy Spirit (referring to
>> >> >> > >>> Matthew 2:16)
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Taking your continued interest here to mean "yes, you
>> >> >> >>> have a healthy
>> >> >> >>> appetite," I share with you, JW, that it's really
>> >> >> >>> Wonderful (Isaiah
>> >> >> >>> 9:6) knowing through our hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) that
>> >> >> >>> we're both
>> >> >> >>> being blessed right now as it's written in the Gospels in
>> >> >> >>> red&white at
>> >> >> >>> Luke 6:21 **and** according to pure logic
>> >> >> >>> (healthy=wonderful &
>> >> >> >>> 9:6) knowing through our hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) that
>> >> >> >>> we're both
>> >> >> >>> being blessed right now as it's written in the Gospels in
>> >> >> >>> red&white at
>> >> >> >>> Luke 6:21 **and** according to pure logic
>> >> >> >>> appetite=hunger) and advise that you try to write that
>> >> >> >>> you're
>> >> >> >>> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that
>> >> >> >>> you are:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> So now how are you ?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I am nonplussed ...
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> So now how are you ?
>> >> >> >>
>
>> >> >> > Again, I advise that you, JW, really try to write that
>> >> >> > you're
>> >> >> > "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you
>> >> >> > are:
>
>> >> >> > So now again, how are you ?
>
>> >> >> I've made my point, you want to belabor it and put words in
>
>> >> >> > So now again, how are you ?
>
>> >> >> my mouth, as well as Matthew's pen, so I am done.
>
>> >> > Dr. Chung is only trying to save your soul, JW. Have some
>> >> > respect, will ya?
>> >
>> >
>> >> How does falsely claiming the New Testament says the Wise Guys
>> >> came from China when the Good Book says no such thing bring me
>> >> closer to salvation?
>> >
>> > Does Chung claim the three wise men were from China? LOL.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/A1X0vJ6wDa8/M-gQek1AAgAJ
No. The Magi were **not** three wise men.
>> That's exactly his position.
No it is not.
See above.
>> Quoting from above, he wrote, "It is
>> described in the Bible that the Magi ... traveled about 5000 miles
>> (2 years x 7 miles/day) from the very far East (i.e. China)".
Nothing about the Magi being three wise men in what you quote.
>> > Well, I guess it's remotely possible. The Bible just says they're
>> > from the east.
Actually what is described in the Bible is that they'd travelled two
years from the East.
>> That's my point. He's presenting his own conjecture as biblical
>> fact.
It remains a Biblical fact that what is described in the Bible is that
the Magi travelled two years from the East.
> Then he's lying even about the Bible.
LIE.
To lie before those of us who are wonderfully hungry (
http://bit.ly/Philippians_12 ) in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, is to blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against
Him, Who He is the Spirit of truth.
You, Ted, are now eternally condemned.
You would have been better off had you never been born b/c you will
now be cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD more than ever.
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, Ted, more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
of Nazareth.
Amen.
Laus DEO !!!
Amen.
Laus DEO !!!
zeb...@windstream.net
Dec 7, 2020, 6:00:38 AM12/7/20
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"spirit". It is a FORCE, not a person in this case.
>
>>>
>>>> Just because figs are mentioned in a few
>>>> places, doesn't mean that was the food from the tree in the middle of
>>>> the garden.
>>>
>>> "The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Holy Spirit (again
>>> referring to Genesis 3:12-13)
>>
>> We can test to see if you really have Holy Spirit by answering this
>> question:
>>
>> Which of these are NOT a Bible doctrine:
>>
>> a. An immortal soul.
>> b. God is a Trinity.
>> c. In Heaven, Jesus and God are equal.
>> d. love your enemies.
>
>Actually, the real test is what is written in the Bible which is that
>"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
>Corinthians 12:3)
"Mein Kampf (1924–25), written while Hitler was in prison after his
failed 1923 putsch, contains numerous references to "God", "the
Creator", "Providence" and "the Lord".[107][108][109][11] "
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler)
" My [Hitler] feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior
as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness,
surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what
they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth!
was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as
a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how
the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out
of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his
fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
a Christian, I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice."
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler)
[brackets mine]
Then did Hitler have Holy Spirit?
>
>Here's HeartDoc Andrew publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" to prove that
>he's annointed by the Holy Spirit:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyg90JPUs7o
>
>Now it is your turn, James, to prove likewise by uploading a video of
>yourself saying "Jesus is LORD" and sharing the link in this thread.
>
>It is written in the Bible that we're to prove all things.
Spirit. The person must also OBEY Jesus:
-- New King James
Luke 6:46 "But why do you call Me `Lord, Lord,' and do not do the
things which I say?
>
>>>> There were multiple trees, unlikely they were all fig
>>>> trees. So it could be any edible fruit bearing tree.
>>>
>>> The reason why figs are the only fruit mentioned in multiple
>>> significant places in the Bible is because they are the fruit from the
>>> tree of knowledge.
>>
>> The Bible doesn't tell the name of the fruit. I would say the olive
>> tree is named more than the fig tree, so it must have been an olive
>> tree?
>
>It is written that Eve "saw that the fruit of the tree was good for
>food and pleasing to the eye" (Genesis 3:6) which would not be the
>case for olives, which are much smaller with an unpleasant look and
>smell compared to figs.
Scriptures.
>
>> We are not supposed to add or take away, from the
>> Bible.
>
>Those who deny gluttony is A&E's first (aka Original) sin are trying
>to take away from the Bible.
>
>Indeed, "the sin" Apostle Paul writes about at Hebrews 12:1 is without
>doubt the sin of gluttony though still unnamed.
would have been in perfect condition. They would have stopped eating
when they were satisfied.
>
>Every living creature on planet Earth is guilty of the sin of gluttony
>if they don't know (Hosea 4:6) the right amount of daily food and
>don't have GOD's help to http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23)
>themselves from committing gluttony (Proverbs 23:2)
>
>>> Moreover, the fact that GOD forgave A&E as evident by His making
>>> clothes for them after their confessing to their sin of gluttony means
>>> that indeed the sin they committed was most definitely gluttony.
>>
>> Where does the Bible say they said their sin was of gluttony?
>
>It is written that both Adam & Eve confessed to eating the fruit that
>they didn't need (i.e. no one needs to die).
>
>The absolutely only sin that is associated with eating fruit is
>gluttony.
You are carrying this too far. Their sin was disobedience. Eve was
>Every living creature on planet Earth is guilty of the sin of gluttony
>if they don't know (Hosea 4:6) the right amount of daily food and
>don't have GOD's help to http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23)
>themselves from committing gluttony (Proverbs 23:2)
>
>>> Moreover, the fact that GOD forgave A&E as evident by His making
>>> clothes for them after their confessing to their sin of gluttony means
>>> that indeed the sin they committed was most definitely gluttony.
>>
>> Where does the Bible say they said their sin was of gluttony?
>
>It is written that both Adam & Eve confessed to eating the fruit that
>they didn't need (i.e. no one needs to die).
>
>The absolutely only sin that is associated with eating fruit is
>gluttony.
told to not even touch the fruit. Even just that would have been a
sin.
>
>>> "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us
>>> our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)
>>>
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> was all their sin, and all their doings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gluttony is simply their 1st (aka Original) sin.
>>>>
>>>> See Rom 5:19.
>>>
>>> Again, Romans 5:19 is irrelevant here because Paul does not name
>>> Adam's sin.
>>
>> You are looking past it. It was one of disobedience.
>
>Disobedience is not sin as evident by the Biblical example of Jacob
>disobeying GOD's command to let Him go during their wrestling match.
than the sun. That is why a human just seeing God, would probably be
'vaporized':
-- New King James
Exodus 33:20 But He said, "You cannot see My face; for no man shall
see Me, and live.''
>
>>>>>>>>> They didn't need the figs because they were learning all they needed
>>>>>>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is written is that satan is the father of all lies instead of all
>>>>> liars.
>>>>
>>>> Yes that is what it literally says. So if you are a constant liar, who
>>>> is your father?
>>>
>>> The same as before you became a constant liar.
>>>
>>> However, if you unwisely choose to blaspheme against (Mark 3:29) the
>>> Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth, then you become a child of
>>> the devil, who does enter into your heart (Matthew 15:19), just as he
>>> did enter Simon Peter and later, Judas Iscariot, if you do not
>>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) your heart.
>>>
>>> Indeed, it is the devil in your heart, who prevents you from replying
>>> appropriately to being greeted here by someone who is wonderfully
>>> hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy Spirit, Who
>>> causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger.
>>
>> Just quit taking those pills, and you will be fine.
>
>I am not taking any pills.
>
>Ask GOD to rebuke the devil in your heart (Matthew 15:19) and
>hopefully He is willing to do this so that you'd be fine.
We all have a bit of the devil in our hearts. Yes, even you:
>>>>>>>>> to know from GOD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It says if they ate they would be "like God".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is further written that the native language of satan is lies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, he is the "father" of all liars.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is written is that satan is the father of all lies instead of all
>>>>> liars.
>>>>
>>>> Yes that is what it literally says. So if you are a constant liar, who
>>>> is your father?
>>>
>>> The same as before you became a constant liar.
>>>
>>> However, if you unwisely choose to blaspheme against (Mark 3:29) the
>>> Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth, then you become a child of
>>> the devil, who does enter into your heart (Matthew 15:19), just as he
>>> did enter Simon Peter and later, Judas Iscariot, if you do not
>>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) your heart.
>>>
>>> Indeed, it is the devil in your heart, who prevents you from replying
>>> appropriately to being greeted here by someone who is wonderfully
>>> hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy Spirit, Who
>>> causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger.
>>
>> Just quit taking those pills, and you will be fine.
>
>I am not taking any pills.
>
>Ask GOD to rebuke the devil in your heart (Matthew 15:19) and
>hopefully He is willing to do this so that you'd be fine.
-- King James
Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and
desperately wicked: who can know it?
>
>>>>>>>> God determines for
>>>>>>>> himself what is right and wrong. That's what happened to A&E then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The sin of gluttony is wrong. This is underscored by the fact that
>>>>>>> it's described in the Bible that of all the sins that the Pharisees
>>>>>>> could accuse our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they chose gluttony.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, they also accused Jesus as being in league with the Devil.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is written is that the devil is cursed to be terribly **not**
>>>>> hungry for food; now only able to eat dust, for the rest of his life,
>>>>> because of deceiving Eve to commit gluttony.
>>>>
>>>> The Bible doesn't say she committed gluttony.
>>>
>>> Instead, it is written in the Bible that Eve confessed to gluttony
>>> while blaming the devil for causing her to do it.
>>
>> She never confessed gluttony. You are adding that to the Bible. (2 Tim
>> 3:16)
>
>There really is no other sin associated with eating fruit except the
>sin of gluttony.
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>
>>>> You might well say she
>>>> committed Bulimia.
>>>
>>> Bulimia is a disease that is a consequence of committing the sin of
>>> gluttony.
>>
>> Which the Bible doesn't mention.
>
>Which proves you to be a liar (i.e. that the devil, whose native
>tongue is lying, is indeed in your heart) in your claiming that you
>only know about that which is mentioned in the Bible.
Bible. That principle is found at:
-- King James
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the
book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of
life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written
in this book.
-- King James
life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written
in this book.
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the
book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of
life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written
in this book.
>
life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written
in this book.
>
>>>> The Bible says Adam sinned by disobedience, thus so
>>>> did Eve since he did the same thing she did.
>>>
>>> There is no sin called disobedience.
>>
>> Disobedience to God and Jesus' laws, are a necessity. To sin against
>> God is to disobey him. sin against Jesus, l
>
>Again, disobedience is not sin as evident by the Biblical example of
>Jacob disobeying GOD's command to let Him go during their wrestling
>match.
See above.
>>>> did Eve since he did the same thing she did.
>>>
>>> There is no sin called disobedience.
>>
>> Disobedience to God and Jesus' laws, are a necessity. To sin against
>> God is to disobey him. sin against Jesus, l
>
>Again, disobedience is not sin as evident by the Biblical example of
>Jacob disobeying GOD's command to let Him go during their wrestling
>match.
>
>>> Moreover, if you kill yourself, you prevent yourself from killing your
>>> neighbor so that indeed "You shall love your neighbor as yourself
>>> (before you killed yourself)."
>>
>> God believes all life is precious.
>
>The lake of fire (Matthew 25:41) being prepared for the eternally
>(Mark 3:29) condemned proves otherwise.
of suffering)
>
>> I just can't see God not condemning
>> a suicide
>
>That would be the devil in your heart (Jeremiah 17:9) blinding you.
-- New American Standard
Exodus 20:13 "You shall not murder.
sinners:
-- American Standard
1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
the truth is not in us.
>
>
>> God wants people to stop sinning because they love Him, not because
>> they are physically unable.
>
>GOD simply commands (John 5:14) that we stop sinning.
See above.
>> they are physically unable.
>
>GOD simply commands (John 5:14) that we stop sinning.
>
>>>>>>>> Jesus allowed himself to be
>>>>>>>> killed in order to save mankind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is not
>>>>>>> murder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jehovah considers all life sacred. Jesus even implied we should LOVE
>>>>>> ourselves. (love your neighbor as yourself") (see also Gen 9:5 and Ps
>>>>>> 36:9)
>>>>>
>>>>> The lives of the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned are not sacred as
>>>>> evident by the lake of fire being prepared for them.
>>>>
>>>> Is that a literal lake of fire? Or symbolic?
>>>
>>> It is as literal as the "KING of kings and LORD of lords" written at
>>> Revelation 19:16.
>>>
>>> Also according to Revelation, those who reduce/minimize that which is
>>> written in Revelation will have less reward in Heaven.
>>
>> Then please once and for all, explain to me how "death" can be thrown
>> into a literal fire?
>
>It is written that with GOD all things are possible (Matthew 19:26).
Matthew 19:26 But Jesus looked at them and said to them, "With men
this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.''
Yes, all righteous things are possible. But God CANNOT do unrighteous
things such as lying.
>
>> -- Revised Standard
>> Revelation 20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of
>> fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire;
>>
>> And it symbolizes the second DEATH, not a LIFE of torture.
>
>When GOD speaks, reality, instead of symbolism, happens.
fire" FIGURATELY is "the second death".
>
>>>>>> You are correct. By DEFINITION, suicide is not murder. Murder takes at
>>>>>> least two people; the victim and the killer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the key question is, what does God think of suicide?
>>>>>
>>>>> Judas Iscariot fell from GOD's grace not for committing suicide but
>>>>> for his love of money.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, it should be for both.
>>>
>>> Not according to what is written in the Bible.
>>
>> Which is?
>
>1 Timothy 6:10
But God was angry with him not only for his love of money, but for
self murder. (suicide)
>
>>>>> Later, the same happened to Ananias and Sapphira.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As Jesus once said, 'I could call on
>>>>>>>> thousands of angels to come to my aid'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again, allowing oneself to be killed is not suicide just as suicide is
>>>>>>> not murder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only what God thinks about it, counts for true Christians.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is written that GOD changed His mind about destroying Niniveh,
>>>>> thereby angering Prophet Jonah, when all it's inhabitants, including
>>>>> their animals, stopped committing the sin of gluttony.
>>>>
>>>> Animals do not commit sins.
>>>
>>> Living creatures that do not commit sins also do not die.
>>>
>>> For it is written that the wages of sin is death.
>>
>> That is correct. The wages of sin is NOT LIFE. (a life of torture) But
>> is DEATH. (the opposite of life)
>
>The 2nd death in the lake of fire is eternal torment.
>
>"The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law." (1
>Corinthians 15:56)
>
>This does mean that the eternal (Mark 3:29) sin brings with it an
>eternal sting (i.e. the eternal torment of the lake of fire)
love (1 John 4:8) could do such a sadistic thing.
>
>>>> They go by their God-given instincts.
>>>
>>> Following GOD-given desires/instincts is **not** following GOD.
>>
>> Animals do not care if they follow and obey God or not.
>
>It is written in the Bible that Balam's donkey cared.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Dec 7, 2020, 6:21:45 AM12/7/20
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duckg...@cox.net
Dec 7, 2020, 9:50:28 AM12/7/20
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On Mon, 07 Dec 2020 06:00:32 -0500, zeb...@windstream.net wrote:
>>It is written in the Bible that the Holy Spirit speaks what He hears.
>It is not a "he", but a force from Jehovah. Look up the Greek word for
>"spirit". It is a FORCE, not a person in this case.
Sorry, but you do NOT follow the Holy Spirit as a JW. Your attitude about
>>It is written in the Bible that the Holy Spirit speaks what He hears.
>It is not a "he", but a force from Jehovah. Look up the Greek word for
>"spirit". It is a FORCE, not a person in this case.
Christ is totally out of line with the teachings of the Father, Son and Holy
Spirit.
the dukester, American-American
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Dec 7, 2020, 10:16:43 AM12/7/20
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Duke wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>>>> So again, how are you ?
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>>>
>>> What is the good behind having to say it your way?
>
>> Source:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/m8SaojOWhh8/nUA0WysmBQAJ
>
>> My name is **not** "Wonderful" (Isaiah 9:6).
>>
>> Instead, "Wonderful" is the name of our "Mighty GOD" (Isaiah 9:6) Who
>> is the only One Who is good (Matthew 19:17)
>
>> Therefore, saying/writing that we're "wonderfully hungry" is the way
>> (John 14:6) of GOD, Who is really our Righteousness (Jeremiah 23:6).
>
>> Source:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/Na2rM7m70k8/7Xlg3A8vDAAJ
>
>> Therefore, I again really advise a 10th time here within this post
>> that you, Duke, **really** try to write that you're "wonderfully
>> hungry" since we've established here that you are:
>>
>> So again, how are you ?
>
> I am trying to guide my life as God calls me, but I'm clearly not perfect..
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/tzApl2zV53A/IHKtM3fiAwAJ
While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke 6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14)
that GOD changes your heart (Ezekiel 11:19-20 & 36:26) so that you,
Duke, would come to trust the truth (John 14:6), Who is Jesus Christ
of Nazareth --> http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Laus DEO.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Dec 8, 2020, 10:04:41 AM12/8/20
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