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al...@faux.net

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Aug 21, 2009, 3:44:13 PM8/21/09
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Andrew B. Chung is a faux-disciple, a pretender, a person who has betrayed a
trust in the same breath as saying he speaks in the Holy Spirit, and
therefore is a disciple of Satan.

Warning, do not enter into any telephone conversation with him, he is not a
person you can trust. Beware, he tries to snare people by demanding you say
to him "Jesus is Lord" on the telephone, and if you don't, he accuses you of
not being a Christian. So you speak to him on the telephone and he betrays
your personal conversation with him to others for personal gain!!!

What grotesque witness!!

I was fooled by him and now I feel like an idiot and violated.

What a woeful and appalling witness of the Lord this 'heartless'
cardiologist
is, displaying the Lord Jesus in the image of an untrustworthy disgrace.
Shame Andrew!!!

Shame on you Andrew B. Chung, "HeartDoc" and provider of spiritual VEBs and
PVCs.

Michael Christ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 21, 2009, 4:58:52 PM8/21/09
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Mike McClean wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung is a faux-disciple ...

Lie.

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be28905910576997?

May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Ms. Moneypenny

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Aug 21, 2009, 5:06:28 PM8/21/09
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I have worked in medicine all my life and have never known any
physician to hang out on these NG's or have the time to do so. I
wonder about the reality of who he says he is. I simply don't believe
it. As they say: IT DOES NOT COMPUTE.

Moneypenny

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 21, 2009, 5:17:31 PM8/21/09
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Abby Moneypenny wrote:

> Mike McClean wrote:
>
> > Andrew B. Chung is a faux-disciple, a pretender, a person who has betrayed a
> > trust in the same breath as saying he speaks in the Holy Spirit, and
> > therefore is a disciple of Satan.
> >
> > Warning, do not enter into any telephone conversation with him, he is not a
> > person you can trust.  Beware, he tries to snare people by demanding you say
> > to him "Jesus is Lord" on the telephone, and if you don't, he accuses you of
> > not being a Christian.  So you speak to him on the telephone and he betrays
> > your personal conversation with him to others for personal gain!!!
> >
> > What grotesque witness!!
> >
> > I was fooled by him and now I feel like an idiot and violated.
> >
> > What a woeful and appalling witness of the Lord this 'heartless'
> > cardiologist
> > is, displaying the Lord Jesus in the image of an untrustworthy disgrace.
> > Shame Andrew!!!
> >
> > Shame on you Andrew B. Chung, "HeartDoc" and provider of spiritual VEBs and
> > PVCs.
>
> I have worked in medicine all my life and have never known any
> physician to hang out on these NG's or have the time to do so. I
> wonder about the reality of who he says he is. I simply don't believe
> it. As they say: IT DOES NOT COMPUTE.

"... with GOD all things are possible." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
19:26)

Amen.

With all due respect, can you, Abby, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
using your mouth?

Jimmy Alpha

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Aug 21, 2009, 5:37:46 PM8/21/09
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IMO his pride is seeking esteem which he doesn't seem to get in real life.

It appears he is harmless, but I'd allow Michael Vick to care for my dog
before him.
Jimmy Alpha

Michael Christ

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Aug 21, 2009, 5:49:12 PM8/21/09
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:5a5c9a0b-3423-4c3b...@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...

> Mike McClean wrote:
>>
>> Andrew B. Chung is a faux-disciple ...
>
> Lie.
>
> Bottom line concerning you:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be28905910576997?
>
> May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
> (Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
> deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
> sinning.

al...@faux.net is not me.

Andrew would have known that if he was not faux-spirited.

Nevertheless it is obvious this situation cannot be resolved until you seek
forgiveness. In which case, in light of the wonderful forgiveness granted
me in the Lord, I am compelled without reservation to forgive you the evil
you have done me, if you humbled and sought and wanted it, Andrew.

Michael Christ

PS Hi Itchy. :-).

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 21, 2009, 5:54:54 PM8/21/09
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Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be28905910576997?

May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.

Amen.

monkfish

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Aug 21, 2009, 8:50:08 PM8/21/09
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Incredible.
You are not God, dear.
You cannot even get enough patients to keep you busy.

--
monkfish

Dr. House

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Aug 21, 2009, 9:08:46 PM8/21/09
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Now the creep will try to get you to call him on the phone. He wants
real life contact and will harass or deceive you in order to get it.
Many of the people who have spoken to the creep have come away from
the experience feeling betrayed. I would recommend that you do not
give out any personal info to creepy people and under no circumstances
should you call them - no matter how much they beg or howl.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 21, 2009, 10:29:11 PM8/21/09
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monkfish wrote:
> > With all due respect, can you, Abby, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
> > using your mouth?
>
> Incredible.
> You are not God, dear.

Did not write that this physician were GOD.

Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

In the interim, may GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new
spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of
water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust
the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

monkfish

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Aug 21, 2009, 11:17:09 PM8/21/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:


Do you think you are God
because all things are possible with God?

--
monkfish

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 22, 2009, 12:18:17 AM8/22/09
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Your question indicates that you are clueless about reality.

This does happen when you start believing your own lies and suffer a

Michael Christ

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Aug 22, 2009, 1:47:23 AM8/22/09
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Warning, do not enter into any telephone conversation with him, he is not a
person you can trust. Beware, he tries to snare people by demanding you say
to him "Jesus is Lord" on the telephone, and if you don't, he accuses you of
not being a Christian. So you speak to him on the telephone and he betrays
your personal conversation with him to others for personal gain!!!

What grotesque witness!!

Michael Christ

GreatSageItchy

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Aug 22, 2009, 2:25:36 AM8/22/09
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In article <LDLjm.13381$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, Michael
Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:

> Michael Christ
>
> Michael Christ
>
"you screwed me up the arse, right in front of God. -Michael Christ,
speaking of his recent fling with Andrew B. Chung.

Michael Christ

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Aug 22, 2009, 4:25:15 AM8/22/09
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Michael Christ wrote:
>> Warning, do not enter into any telephone conversation with him, he is not
>> a
>> person you can trust. Beware, he tries to snare people by demanding you
>> say
>> to him "Jesus is Lord" on the telephone, and if you don't, he accuses you
>> of
>> not being a Christian. So you speak to him on the telephone and he
>> betrays
>> your personal conversation with him to others for personal gain!!!
>>
>> What grotesque witness!!
>
>> Michael Christ


GSI wrote:
> "you screwed me up the arse, right in front of God. -Michael Christ,
> speaking of his recent fling with Andrew B. Chung.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha...

Indeed.

Michael Christ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 22, 2009, 5:03:43 AM8/22/09
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Mike McClean wrote:

> Mike McClean wrote:
> >> Warning, do not enter into any telephone conversation with him, he is not
> >> a
> >> person you can trust. Beware, he tries to snare people by demanding you
> >> say
> >> to him "Jesus is Lord" on the telephone, and if you don't, he accuses you
> >> of
> >> not being a Christian. So you speak to him on the telephone and he
> >> betrays
> >> your personal conversation with him to others for personal gain!!!
> >>
> >> What grotesque witness!!
>
>
> GSI wrote:
> > "you screwed me up the arse, right in front of God. -Michael Christ,
> > speaking of his recent fling with Andrew B. Chung.
>
> Hahahahahahahahahahahaha...
>
> Indeed.

"Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

Michael Christ

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Aug 22, 2009, 5:24:38 AM8/22/09
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:9d93465f-e2fc-45e4...@g31g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

> Mike McClean wrote:
>> Mike McClean wrote:
>> >> Warning, do not enter into any telephone conversation with him, he is
>> >> not
>> >> a
>> >> person you can trust. Beware, he tries to snare people by demanding
>> >> you
>> >> say
>> >> to him "Jesus is Lord" on the telephone, and if you don't, he accuses
>> >> you
>> >> of
>> >> not being a Christian. So you speak to him on the telephone and he
>> >> betrays
>> >> your personal conversation with him to others for personal gain!!!
>> >>
>> >> What grotesque witness!!
>>
>>
>> GSI wrote:
>> > "you screwed me up the arse, right in front of God. -Michael Christ,
>> > speaking of his recent fling with Andrew B. Chung.
>>
>> Hahahahahahahahahahahaha...
>>
>> Indeed.

Andrew striving to be God's Word wrote:
> "Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit.

Incorrect.

Andrew B. Chung is not the Holy Spirit. Andrew should ask his wife for
confirmation.

Michael Christ


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 22, 2009, 6:16:50 AM8/22/09
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Mike McClean wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> GSI wrote:
> >>
> >> > "you screwed me up the arse, right in front of God. -Michael Christ,
> >> > speaking of his recent fling with Andrew B. Chung.
> >>
> >> Hahahahahahahahahahahaha...
> >
> > "Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit.
> >
> > Amen.
>
> Incorrect.

Not for the discerning:

"Even in laughter the heart may ache, and joy may end in
grief." (Proverbs 14:13)

monkfish

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Aug 22, 2009, 11:06:43 AM8/22/09
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Do you even realize you are missing the point?
We are telling you to stop talking as if you are God.
We know you know you are not God.
We know you know you are ineffective and incompetent.
We know you know you are in denial.
But for whatever reason, you cannot help it.
Get well soon.

--
monkfish

tr...@finder.com

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Aug 22, 2009, 11:18:15 AM8/22/09
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> I have worked in medicine all my life and have never known any
> physician to hang out on these NG's or have the time to do so. I
> wonder about the reality of who he says he is. I simply don't believe
> it. As they say: IT DOES NOT COMPUTE.

The other possibility and the one here is that he suffered an affliction
as a young man soon after his medical training that will soon become
evident as you read more of his posts.

Always keep in mind that he trades in the ambiguity of language in a
huge desperation to save face regarding his affliction and his current
status.

He needs our prayers and others to be reminded least they should be
harmed.

May God bless and protect and heal.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 22, 2009, 11:35:27 AM8/22/09
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Your question indicates that you are still clueless about WDJW:

http://WDJW.net

Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-

haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from

monkfish

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Aug 22, 2009, 11:43:58 AM8/22/09
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You would not dream of talking the way you do
if you are even slightly familiar with WWJD.
Can you publicly say "Lord, help me
stop talking as if I speak for the Holy Spirit"?

--
monkfish

Thommadura

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Aug 22, 2009, 12:28:30 PM8/22/09
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You may as well tell Andrew to go F... O..

Saying you will PRAY for someone is the ULTIMATE inaction. IT is simply
admitting that you have no intention of doing anything yourself - and
since your prayers will result in NO action as well - all you are doing
is setting up to blame your god for his lack of action - even though you
know that no gods are even proven to exist - much less have the ability
to help humans.

If they did have the ability to help humans - why don't/Didn't they?

THere are thousands of actions against children who cannot protect
themselves happening everyday - children who are certainly not choosing
to be molested or abused. And not only does your god apparently do
nothing to help them - according to you - he knew it would happen all
along - the bastard!

Ms.Moneypenny

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Aug 22, 2009, 12:57:18 PM8/22/09
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<tr...@finder.com> wrote in message
news:4a900c37$0$23842$1c46...@news.club.cc.cmu.edu...

I might give him that, but from my research on the internet , he is
not highly thought of and I would like to see a copy of his medical
license which of course is public record.

Moneypenny

ThomM

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Aug 22, 2009, 1:32:39 PM8/22/09
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While you will not see a copy of the actual license - you will get to
see his records - and they state that he is a licensed Physician.

However - that is meaningless since it implies nothing other than he
has fulfilled those requirements - and does not prove anything else
about him

Ms.Moneypenny

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"Ms.Moneypenny" <money...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No God did not choose all of us to be saved. Eph. 1

Moneypenny

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 22, 2009, 3:59:38 PM8/22/09
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Abby Moneypenny wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > With all due respect, can you, Abby, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
> > using your mouth?
>
> No God did not choose all of us to be saved. Eph. 1

Sad to read that you are not able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
using your mouth so that we now know that you are not born again of
water and Spirit.

May GOD give you, Abby, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20


and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John

3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus.

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

monkfish

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Aug 22, 2009, 4:17:49 PM8/22/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Abby Moneypenny wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > With all due respect, can you, Abby, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>> > using your mouth?
>>
>> No God did not choose all of us to be saved. Eph. 1
>
> Sad to read that you are not able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
> using your mouth so that we now know that you are not born again of
> water and Spirit.


Are you trying to say that
mute people cannot be born again?

--
monkfish

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 22, 2009, 4:39:48 PM8/22/09
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monkfish wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Abby Moneypenny wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >> > With all due respect, can you, Abby, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
> >> > using your mouth?
> >>
> >> No God did not choose all of us to be saved. Eph. 1
> >
> > Sad to read that you are not able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
> > using your mouth so that we now know that you are not born again of
> > water and Spirit.
>
> Are you trying to say that
> mute people cannot be born again?

If GOD wants this physician to know that a mute person is born again,
this physician will hear the mute person say "Jesus is LORD."

"... with GOD all things are possible." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
19:26)

Amen.

Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-


haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

In the interim, may GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new
spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of


water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust

the truth, Who is Jesus:

Jimmy Alpha

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Aug 22, 2009, 6:12:13 PM8/22/09
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sightwalker wrote:
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Abby Moneypenny wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> With all due respect, can you, Abby, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>>>>> using your mouth?
>>>> No God did not choose all of us to be saved. Eph. 1
>>> Sad to read that you are not able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>>> using your mouth so that we now know that you are not born again of
>>> water and Spirit.
>> Are you trying to say that
>> mute people cannot be born again?
>
> If GOD wants this physician to know that a mute person is born again,
> this physician will hear the mute person say "Jesus is LORD."
>
> "... with GOD all things are possible." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
> 19:26)

Then why do *you* have to hear if God wants you to know you'll know? But
so far that doesn't seem to be working for *you*! luc
Jimmy A.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 22, 2009, 6:41:55 PM8/22/09
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Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > monkfish wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> Abby Moneypenny wrote:
> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> With all due respect, can you, Abby, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
> >>>>> using your mouth?
> >>>>
> >>>> No God did not choose all of us to be saved. Eph. 1
> >>>
> >>> Sad to read that you are not able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
> >>> using your mouth so that we now know that you are not born again of
> >>> water and Spirit.
> >>
> >> Are you trying to say that
> >> mute people cannot be born again?
> >
> > If GOD wants this physician to know that a mute person is born again,
> > this physician will hear the mute person say "Jesus is LORD."
> >
> > "... with GOD all things are possible." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
> > 19:26)

Amen.

> Then why do *you* have to hear if God wants you to know you'll know?

This is Scriptural (Romans 10:9 and 1 Cor 12:3) for anyone to know
whether another is born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5
referring to Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26).

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d9df64bcd4317a85?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

May GOD give you, Jimmy, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and

Jimmy Alpha

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Aug 22, 2009, 7:58:11 PM8/22/09
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sightwalker wrote:
> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> monkfish wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> Abby Moneypenny wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With all due respect, can you, Abby, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>>>>>>> using your mouth?
>>>>>> No God did not choose all of us to be saved. Eph. 1
>>>>> Sad to read that you are not able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>>>>> using your mouth so that we now know that you are not born again of
>>>>> water and Spirit.
>>>> Are you trying to say that
>>>> mute people cannot be born again?
>>> If GOD wants this physician to know that a mute person is born again,
>>> this physician will hear the mute person say "Jesus is LORD."
>>>
>>> "... with GOD all things are possible." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
>>> 19:26)
>
> Amen.
>
>> Then why do *you* have to hear if God wants you to know you'll know?
>
> This is Scriptural (Romans 10:9 and 1 Cor 12:3) for anyone to know
> whether another is born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5
> referring to Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26).

No, you error, Romans 10:9 doesn't infer to charlie.

Again you bring up my not quite white prez?
Jimmy Alpha

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 22, 2009, 8:06:22 PM8/22/09
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A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:

2 Peter 2:22

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d9df64bcd4317a85?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

Thommadura

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Aug 22, 2009, 8:06:35 PM8/22/09
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So far - gods have never said ANY of that.

monkfish

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Aug 22, 2009, 8:19:37 PM8/22/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Abby Moneypenny wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > With all due respect, can you, Abby, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>> >> > using your mouth?
>> >>
>> >> No God did not choose all of us to be saved. Eph. 1
>> >
>> > Sad to read that you are not able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>> > using your mouth so that we now know that you are not born again of
>> > water and Spirit.
>>
>> Are you trying to say that
>> mute people cannot be born again?
>
> If GOD wants this physician to know that a mute person is born again,
> this physician will hear the mute person say "Jesus is LORD."


Fascinating.


Are you trying to say that

even mute people have to say "Jesus is Lord"
to be born again?

--
monkfish

monkfish

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Aug 22, 2009, 9:00:30 PM8/22/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > monkfish wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>> Abby Moneypenny wrote:
>> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> With all due respect, can you, Abby, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>> >>>>> using your mouth?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> No God did not choose all of us to be saved. Eph. 1
>> >>>
>> >>> Sad to read that you are not able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>> >>> using your mouth so that we now know that you are not born again of
>> >>> water and Spirit.
>> >>
>> >> Are you trying to say that
>> >> mute people cannot be born again?
>> >
>> > If GOD wants this physician to know that a mute person is born again,
>> > this physician will hear the mute person say "Jesus is LORD."
>> >
>> > "... with GOD all things are possible." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
>> > 19:26)
>
> Amen.
>
>> Then why do *you* have to hear if God wants you to know you'll know?
>
> This is Scriptural (Romans 10:9 and 1 Cor 12:3) for anyone to know
> whether another is born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5
> referring to Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26).

Do you believe in the Resurrection?

Mark 16:14-18(New International Version)
[quote]
14Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them
for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had
seen him after he had risen.
15He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all
creation. 16Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever
does not believe will be condemned. 17And these signs will accompany those
who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new
tongues; 18they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink
deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on
sick people, and they will get well."
[/quote]

Any signs yet?

--
monkfish

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Your question indicates that you lack reading comprehension.

Don Kirkman

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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Ms. Moneypenny wrote in article
<70df9915-9d0b-4eff...@g6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>:


>I have worked in medicine all my life and have never known any
>physician to hang out on these NG's or have the time to do so. I
>wonder about the reality of who he says he is. I simply don't believe
>it. As they say: IT DOES NOT COMPUTE.

You need to upgrade your computer. Sci.med.cardiology was founded by
a group of medical professionals as a place for them and truly
interested lay people to discuss diseases, treatments, and preventive
ideas, among other topics. As late as around 1995 when I came to smc
there were doctors actively discussing genuine medical
topics--including Dr. Chung; at that time he still believed in
science, was usually on topic or close to it, and provided useful
information pretty much in line with standard medical opinion of the
time. His decline has been fast and deep.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Don Kirkman wrote:

> Abby Moneypenny wrote:
>
> >I have worked in medicine all my life and have never known any
> >physician to hang out on these NG's or have the time to do so. I
> >wonder about the reality of who he says he is. I simply don't believe
> >it. As they say: IT DOES NOT COMPUTE.
>
> You need to upgrade your computer. Sci.med.cardiology was founded by
> a group of medical professionals as a place for them and truly
> interested lay people to discuss diseases, treatments, and preventive
> ideas, among other topics.

Simply all matters of the heart :-)

> As late as around 1995 when I came to smc
> there were doctors actively discussing genuine medical
> topics--including Dr. Chung; at that time he still believed in

> science ...

This physician remains a scientist who has believed in GOD from the
outset of participating in SMC in 1996 (13 years ago):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3a1df6b4d877d0c2?

Moreover, a true scientist uses the scientific method in hopes of
finding the truth and those of us who are true scientists, who have
found the truth, use the scientific method to show people the truth:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

> ... was usually on topic or close to it, and provided useful


> information pretty much in line with standard medical opinion of the
> time.

The truth is always on topic.

> His decline has been fast and deep.

Adhering to the truth over the past 13 years is not a sign of decline
but rather shows that this physician has been called by GOD to allow
His light to shine here in the darkness of Usenet because there is no
other explanation for his perseverence. Laus Deo :-)

Would continue to gently suggest that you, Don, stop lying post-haste


before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from reality:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ebf80fd52b13b1ca?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

May GOD give you, Don, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20

Jimmy Alpha

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Aug 23, 2009, 8:50:36 AM8/23/09
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Tell us the truth about this line you snipped,

"His decline has been fast and deep".

Everyone can see you are in need of help charlie, why do you not seek it?
Jimmy Alpha

monkfish

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > monkfish wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> > Abby Moneypenny wrote:
>> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > With all due respect, can you, Abby, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>> >> >> > using your mouth?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> No God did not choose all of us to be saved. Eph. 1
>> >> >
>> >> > Sad to read that you are not able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>> >> > using your mouth so that we now know that you are not born again of
>> >> > water and Spirit.
>> >>
>> >> Are you trying to say that
>> >> mute people cannot be born again?
>> >
>> > If GOD wants this physician to know that a mute person is born again,
>> > this physician will hear the mute person say "Jesus is LORD."
>>
>> Fascinating.
>> Are you trying to say that
>> even mute people have to say "Jesus is Lord"
>> to be born again?
>
> Your question indicates that you lack reading comprehension.


More likely, you don't know what you are talking about.
To humor you, I'll ask again in your way.


Are you trying to say that
even mute people have to say "Jesus is Lord"

if they were born again?
Does that mean the born-again cannot be mute?

--
monkfish

Ms.Moneypenny

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"Don Kirkman" <don...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:8fl195p1onhemeffn...@4ax.com...

Yes I did write that and I wonder what decline you are speaking of. I
could consider if one does not have a busy practice perhaps
gathering information via internet could be a useful tool, however,
the physicians I worked with have no time for their families let alone
time for internet newsgroups.

Ms. Moneypenny

tr...@finder.com

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Aug 23, 2009, 3:14:27 PM8/23/09
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Truth:

Someone has been using the following falsely and setting themselves up
as a fallaciousgate keeper as to whom is Christian:

1 Corr. 012:003 Wherefore I
give you to understand, that no man speaking by
the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can
say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

It is false to assert this means that any not a christian can not
orally utter the words of the last line.

This is to make it an act of magic and a superstition to demand that
meaning alone. It clearly can mean in context not to say it with full
conviction of heart.

It is another product of a lone ranger bible reader who purposefully and
vainly isolates themselves from the leavening that having a mature
spiritual counselor would afford.

It is only one more in such a line of irrational self invented
distortion of scripture. The shrunken fruit of the fig tree.

By that fruit alone the source can be ignored without a second
consideration.

Ms.Moneypenny

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<tr...@finder.com> wrote in message
news:4a919513$0$23832$1c46...@news.club.cc.cmu.edu...

Don Kirkman

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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Ms.Moneypenny wrote in article
<h6rpsc$24d$1...@news.eternal-september.org>:


>"Don Kirkman" <don...@charter.net> wrote in message
>news:8fl195p1onhemeffn...@4ax.com...
>> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Ms. Moneypenny wrote in
>> article
>> <70df9915-9d0b-4eff...@g6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>:

>>>I have worked in medicine all my life and have never known any
>>>physician to hang out on these NG's or have the time to do so. I
>>>wonder about the reality of who he says he is. I simply don't
>>>believe
>>>it. As they say: IT DOES NOT COMPUTE.

>>As late as around 1995 when I came to smc


>> there were doctors actively discussing genuine medical
>> topics--including Dr. Chung; at that time he still believed in
>> science, was usually on topic or close to it, and provided useful
>> information pretty much in line with standard medical opinion of the
>> time. His decline has been fast and deep.

>Yes I did write that and I wonder what decline you are speaking of. I

>could consider if one does not have a busy practice perhaps
>gathering information via internet could be a useful tool, however,
>the physicians I worked with have no time for their families let alone
>time for internet newsgroups.

His decline: his descent into either real or feigned rejection of
scientific principles and increasing fascination with self-invented
religious doctrines, evident from reading a few of his messages. A
comparison with what he was writing in the early 1990s will make it
clear.

I don't think working physicians would come to smc to gather
information; the ones who have passed through were offering helpful
answer to questions from lay users.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f9cac5c8e9a1d539?

>
> Tell us the truth about this line you snipped,
>
> "His decline has been fast and deep".

Did not snip it but rather wrote the following in response:

"Adhering to the truth over the past 13 years is not a sign of
decline
but rather shows that this physician has been called by GOD to allow
His light to shine here in the darkness of Usenet because there is no

other explanation for his perseverence. Laus Deo :-)" -- Andrew, in
the Holy Spirit

A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:

2 Peter 2:22

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d9df64bcd4317a85?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

May GOD give you, Jimmy, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel

Jimmy Alpha

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ABnormal wrote:
> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f9cac5c8e9a1d539?
>> Tell us the truth about this line you snipped,
>>
>> "His decline has been fast and deep".
>
> Did not snip it but rather wrote the following in response:

My error, sorry sightwalker.
Jimmy Alpha

Thommadura

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Aug 23, 2009, 8:33:43 PM8/23/09
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tr...@finder.com wrote:
> Truth:
>
> Someone has been using the following falsely and setting themselves up
> as a fallaciousgate keeper as to whom is Christian:
>

Sorry - but since the bible cannot be establishes as a source of truth
-Truthfinder LIES again.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 24, 2009, 3:12:21 AM8/24/09
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Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f9cac5c8e9a1d539?
> >>
> >> Tell us the truth about this line you snipped,
> >>
> >> "His decline has been fast and deep".
> >
> > Did not snip it but rather wrote the following in response:

"Adhering to the truth over the past 13 years is not a sign of decline


but rather shows that this physician has been called by GOD to allow
His light to shine here in the darkness of Usenet because there is no
other explanation for his perseverence. Laus Deo :-)" -- Andrew, in
the Holy Spirit

> My error ...

Indeed, you continue to be guided by the spirit of error (self).

MF sucks

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> Bottom line concerning you:

Bottom line concerning *you*:

Andrew Chung:

Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)

Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (#
being a number)

Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days

Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals

Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website

Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)

Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.

Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto
food.

Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe

Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.

Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.

Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.

Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".

Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.

Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.

Jimmy Alpha

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sightwalker with a phd wrote:
> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f9cac5c8e9a1d539?
>>>> Tell us the truth about this line you snipped,
>>>>
>>>> "His decline has been fast and deep".
>>> Did not snip it but rather wrote the following in response:
>
> "Adhering to the truth over the past 13 years is not a sign of decline
> but rather shows that this physician has been called by GOD to allow
> His light to shine here in the darkness of Usenet because there is no
> other explanation for his perseverence. Laus Deo :-)" -- Andrew, in
> the Holy Spirit
>
>> My error ...
>
> Indeed, you continue to be guided by the spirit of error (self).
>
> A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:
>
> 2 Peter 2:22

I said I erred, that wasn't good enough for you sightwalker? Ok I
'stand, we're not at the same level in your eye, you can publicly say
"Jesus is Lord", and think I can't! Hence, I've called your number
(404-699-2780) and left a voice message saying "Jesus is Lord", which is
a really easy thing to do, so I can hopefully elevate my standing in
your eye.

Seeing I've met that first requirement, what's the next step in your
little cult charlie?
Jimmy "Jesus is Lord" Alpha

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f9cac5c8e9a1d539?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tell us the truth about this line you snipped,
>>>>>
>>>>> "His decline has been fast and deep".
>>>>
>>>> Did not snip it but rather wrote the following in response:
>>
>> "Adhering to the truth over the past 13 years is not a sign of decline
>> but rather shows that this physician has been called by GOD to allow
>> His light to shine here in the darkness of Usenet because there is no
>> other explanation for his perseverence. Laus Deo :-)" -- Andrew, in
>> the Holy Spirit

http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo



>>> My error ...
>>
>> Indeed, you continue to be guided by the spirit of error (self).
>>
>> A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:
>>
>> 2 Peter 2:22
>

> I said I erred ...

You wrote it.

> ... that wasn't good enough for you sightwalker?

Errors are not good enough for GOD.

"Be perfect for your Father in heaven is perfect." -- LORD Jesus
Christ

Amen.

> Ok I 'stand, we're not at the same level in your eye, you can publicly say
>"Jesus is Lord", and think I can't!

There presently has been no evidence that you are born again of water
and Spirit.

> Hence, I've called your number

> (404-xxx-xxxx) and left a voice message saying "Jesus is Lord", which is

> a really easy thing to do, so I can hopefully elevate my standing in
> your eye.

It is this physician's hope that his prayers have been answered
concerning you so that you are indeed now born again. It would not be
until this physician hears the alleged voicemail from you that he
would truly know for certain that this miracle has happened. If/when
a voicemail of your saying "Jesus is LORD" is located, it will be
posted at ...

http://WDJW.net

... so that others would also know that this physican's prayers for
you have been answered and that you are now truly born again as a new
creature in Christ Jesus.

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6d0ad1468eb538ad?

In the interim, if GOD has not done so already, may GOD give you,


Jimmy, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so
that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5)

and would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

tr...@finder.com

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Aug 24, 2009, 1:00:44 PM8/24/09
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"It is this physician's hope that his prayers have been answered
concerning you so that you are indeed now born again. It would not be
until this physician hears the alleged voicemail from you that he would
truly know for certain that this miracle has happened. If/when a
voicemail of your saying "Jesus is LORD" is located, it will be posted
at ...

http://WDJW.net

... so that others would also know that this physican's prayers for you
have been answered and that you are now truly born again as a new
creature in Christ Jesus."

Truth:

Sad the progression of this affliction. Sad to see one so young struck
down.

We have gone from a false teaching about a false magical test if one is
christian to a new distortion of thought.

Now a confession that with the above distortion of thought the poster is
in charge of another's salvation and the determination if same is valid
and the right magic performed was made.

He needs our prayers all the more, there but for the grace of God goes
any of us..

May God bless and protect and heal.

Jimmy Alpha

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f9cac5c8e9a1d539?
>>>>>> Tell us the truth about this line you snipped,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "His decline has been fast and deep".
>>>>> Did not snip it but rather wrote the following in response:
>>> "Adhering to the truth over the past 13 years is not a sign of decline
>>> but rather shows that this physician has been called by GOD to allow
>>> His light to shine here in the darkness of Usenet because there is no
>>> other explanation for his _perseverence._ Laus Deo :-)" -- Andrew, in

>>> the Holy Spirit
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo
>
>>>> My error ...
>>> Indeed, you continue to be guided by the spirit of error (self).
>>>
>>> A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:
>>>
>>> 2 Peter 2:22
>> I said I erred ...
>
> You wrote it.
>
>> ... that wasn't good enough for you sightwalker?
>
> Errors are not good enough for GOD.
>
> "Be perfect for your Father in heaven is perfect." -- LORD Jesus
> Christ
>
> Amen.
>
>> Ok I 'stand, we're not at the same level in your eye, you can publicly say
>> "Jesus is Lord", and think I can't!
>
> There presently has been no evidence that you are born again of water
> and Spirit.
>
>> Hence, I've called your number
>> (404-699-2780) and left a voice message saying "Jesus is Lord", which is
>> a really easy thing to do, so I can hopefully elevate my standing in
>> your eye.
>
> It is this physician's hope that his prayers have been answered
> concerning you

Having no way of knowing your prayers I wouldn't know? I do know you
have had nothing to do with my salvation tho.

> so that you are indeed now born again. It would not be
> until this physician hears the alleged voicemail from you that he
> would truly know for certain that this miracle has happened.

I've heard you say "Jesus is Lord", and I think you have been deluded by
false teachings.

> If/when
> a voicemail of your saying "Jesus is LORD" is located, it will be
> posted at ...

What? Check you voice box at 404-699-2780, called perhaps at 8:20 your
time, but I didn't really note the time.

> http://WDJW.net

Yes please do, but only if you use it whole, no snipping or please don't.

> ... so that others would also know that this _physican's_ prayers for


> you have been answered and that you are now truly born again as a new
> creature in Christ Jesus.

Your prayers even as a "physican"[sic] have nothing to do with my salvation.
Jimmy "Jesus is the Lord" Alpha

d...@manual.net

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http://healthresources.caremark.com/topic/topic100587438

There are five subtypes of schizophrenia: Paranoid

The key feature of this subtype of schizophrenia is the combination of
false beliefs (delusions) and hearing voices (auditory hallucinations),
with more nearly normal emotions and cognitive functioning (cognitive
functions include reasoning, judgment, and memory). The delusions of
paranoid schizophrenics usually involve thoughts of being persecuted or
harmed by others or exaggerated opinions of their own importance, but
may also reflect feelings of jealousy or excessive religiosity. The
delusions are typically organized into a coherent framework. Paranoid
schizophrenics function at a higher level than other subtypes, but are
at risk for suicidal or violent behavior under the influence of their
delusions.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 24, 2009, 3:24:25 PM8/24/09
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Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f9cac5c8e9a1d539?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tell us the truth about this line you snipped,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "His decline has been fast and deep".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did not snip it but rather wrote the following in response:
>>>>
>>>> "Adhering to the truth over the past 13 years is not a sign of decline
>>>> but rather shows that this physician has been called by GOD to allow
>>>> His light to shine here in the darkness of Usenet because there is no
>>>> other explanation for his perseverence. Laus Deo :-)" -- Andrew, in

>>>> the Holy Spirit
>>
>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo
>>
>>>>> My error ...
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, you continue to be guided by the spirit of error (self).
>>>>
>>>> A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:
>>>>
>>>> 2 Peter 2:22
>>>
>>> I said I erred ...
>>
>> You wrote it.
>>
>>> ... that wasn't good enough for you sightwalker?
>>
>> Errors are not good enough for GOD.
>>
>> "Be perfect for your Father in heaven is perfect." -- LORD Jesus
>> Christ
>>
>> Amen.
>>
>>> Ok I 'stand, we're not at the same level in your eye, you can publicly say
>>> "Jesus is Lord", and think I can't!
>>
>> There presently has been no evidence that you are born again of water
>> and Spirit.
>>
>>> Hence, I've called your number
>>> (404-xxx-xxxx) and left a voice message saying "Jesus is Lord", which is
>>> a really easy thing to do, so I can hopefully elevate my standing in
>>> your eye.
>>
>> It is this physician's hope that his prayers have been answered
>> concerning you
>
> Having no way of knowing your prayers I wouldn't know?

You waxed incoherent here.

What were you trying to ask?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f97bfe0d699c039d?

Jimmy Alpha

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sightwalker with a phd wrote:
> Jimmy Alpha wrote:

>> Having no way of knowing your prayers I wouldn't know?
>
> You waxed incoherent here.

Sorry, don't be vexed, I'll try again. Remember the English scientist
told his Indian assistant who was new to the English language to test
the chlorinated sugar compound, the poor Indian thought he was to taste
the powder and shazam we have Splenda.

> What were you trying to ask?

Asking nothing really, the question mark was for my being befuddled that
you would think I would have anyway of knowing what you were praying
for. Hence I said, you've had nothing to do with my salvation if that
was indeed what you were petitioning in ignorance.

Have you checked your voice box (not to be confused with your larynx) at
404-699-2780, called at 8:19 your time.

I hope you being an honorable "physican"[sic] you'll honor my wishes not
to edit the phone call in anyway should you make it public. Remember, it
was given to you and your staff in private, at your virtual medical
office, and the virtual phone number listed there in.

Hoping this helps clear the marbles sightwalker!
Jimmy Alpha

source of confusion follows:
-------------------------------------------------------


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f9cac5c8e9a1d539?
>>>>>> Tell us the truth about this line you snipped,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "His decline has been fast and deep".
>>>>> Did not snip it but rather wrote the following in response:
>>> "Adhering to the truth over the past 13 years is not a sign of decline
>>> but rather shows that this physician has been called by GOD to allow
>>> His light to shine here in the darkness of Usenet because there is no

>>> other explanation for his _perseverence_ . Laus Deo :-)" -- Andrew, in


>>> the Holy Spirit
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo
>
>>>> My error ...
>>> Indeed, you continue to be guided by the spirit of error (self).
>>>
>>> A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:
>>>
>>> 2 Peter 2:22
>> I said I erred ...
>
> You wrote it.
>
>> ... that wasn't good enough for you sightwalker?
>
> Errors are not good enough for GOD.
>
> "Be perfect for your Father in heaven is perfect." -- LORD Jesus
> Christ
>
> Amen.
>
>> Ok I 'stand, we're not at the same level in your eye, you can
publicly say "Jesus is Lord", and think I can't!
>
> There presently has been no evidence that you are born again of water
> and Spirit.
>

>> Hence, I've called your number (404-699-2780) and left a voice

message saying "Jesus is Lord", which is a really easy thing to do, so I
can hopefully elevate my standing in your eye.
>
> It is this physician's hope that his prayers have been answered
> concerning you

Having no way of knowing your prayers I wouldn't know? I do know you

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 24, 2009, 5:29:05 PM8/24/09
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Jimmy Alpha wrote:

<snip>

>Have you checked your voice box (not to be confused with your larynx) at

>404-xxx-xxxx, called at 8:19 your time.

If an intelligible voice mail message with someone saying "Jesus is
LORD" is found that can be assigned to a name, it would be posted
within 24 hrs at:

http://WDJW.net

Are you certain that you called the telephone number listed at the
bottom of the above web site?

While not knowing for certain that you are born again, may GOD give


you, Jimmy, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26)

so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5)


and would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Jimmy Alpha

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Aug 24, 2009, 6:17:01 PM8/24/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Have you checked your voice box (not to be confused with your larynx) at
>> 404-xxx-xxxx, called at 8:19 your time.
>
> If an intelligible voice mail message with someone saying "Jesus is
> LORD" is found that can be assigned to a name, it would be posted
> within 24 hrs at:
>
> http://WDJW.net
>
> Are you certain that you called the telephone number listed at the
> bottom of the above web site?

Here, "Aug 24 12:19 +14046992780" cut from my phone records, this next
cut from your page, "404.699.2780", you have it or you're playing games.
But not to worry sightwalker, Lord willing I'll give an encore if asked,
or needed.
Jimmy Alpha

Chuck

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Aug 24, 2009, 9:11:24 PM8/24/09
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<d...@manual.net> wrote in message
news:4a92dcfb$0$23833$1c46...@news.club.cc.cmu.edu...

You've defined "delusion" as equivalent to "false belief". I think that's
overly broad. I don't accept I'm delusional in getting four wrong on my
written driving test, or in forming the belief it is safe to proceed across
the intersection at a boulevard stop having looked both ways, but having
missed a car that is proceeding as well. Not all false preceptual beliefs
are "delusions", or are all errant deliverances of reasoning or memory.

Therefore, the above, lacking as it does any distinction between beliefs
held in error and delusions, is not nearly as informative as it could be.

Also, isn't it common to find people who maintain a somewhat bloated
self-image relative to their actual importance in the world? My experience
of people tells me yes, but I would hardly call what is common to man
"delusional".

And just because you think they're out to get you is being paranoid, doesn't
mean they're not. They get paranoids just like they get everyone else ;-)

Chuck

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 24, 2009, 9:38:01 PM8/24/09
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Jimmy Alpha wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >> Have you checked your voice box (not to be confused with your larynx) at
> >> 404-xxx-xxxx, called at 8:19 your time.
> >
> > If an intelligible voice mail message with someone saying "Jesus is
> > LORD" is found that can be assigned to a name, it would be posted
> > within 24 hrs at:
> >
> > http://WDJW.net
> >
> > Are you certain that you called the telephone number listed at the
> > bottom of the above web site?
>
> Here, "Aug 24 12:19 +1404xxxxxxx" cut from my phone records, this next
> cut from your page, "404.xxx.xxxx", you have it or you're playing games.

Ok, did you get a verbal confirmation that you reached the right
number and did you enter the right number as instructed for leaving
voicemail after getting the verbal confirmation?

In the interim, may GOD give you, Jimmy, a new heart and a new spirit


(Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water

and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the

Jimmy Alpha

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Aug 24, 2009, 10:37:46 PM8/24/09
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sightwalker with a phd wrote:
> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> Have you checked your voice box (not to be confused with your larynx) at
>>>> 404-xxx-xxxx, called at 8:19 your time.
>>> If an intelligible voice mail message with someone saying "Jesus is
>>> LORD" is found that can be assigned to a name, it would be posted
>>> within 24 hrs at:
>>>
>>> http://WDJW.net
>>>
>>> Are you certain that you called the telephone number listed at the
>>> bottom of the above web site?
>> Here, "Aug 24 12:19 +1404xxxxxxx" cut from my phone records, this next
>> cut from your page, "404.xxx.xxxx", you have it or you're playing games.
>
> Ok, did you get a verbal confirmation that you reached the right
> number and did you enter the right number as instructed for leaving
> voicemail after getting the verbal confirmation?

Sightwalker, I wasn't taking notes but it was like someone picked up
during the salutation message on your end. When I just now called the
same number I received a totally different experience. Check your end if
matters and ask who picked up the phone at 8:19.

I have just now called and left a private message not to be manipulated
in any way. It is worded something like, "sightwalker, Jimmy here, Jesus
is Lord, or as my King James' proclaims, "Jesus is the Lord". Then I had
the obligatory goodbye and hung up.
Jimmy Alpga

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 25, 2009, 1:17:33 AM8/25/09
to
Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
> > Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>>> Have you checked your voice box (not to be confused with your larynx) at
> >>>> 404-xxx-xxxx, called at 8:19 your time.
> >>>
> >>> If an intelligible voice mail message with someone saying "Jesus is
> >>> LORD" is found that can be assigned to a name, it would be posted
> >>> within 24 hrs at:
> >>>
> >>> http://WDJW.net
> >>>
> >>> Are you certain that you called the telephone number listed at the
> >>> bottom of the above web site?
> >>
> >> Here, "Aug 24 12:19 +1404xxxxxxx" cut from my phone records, this next
> >> cut from your page, "404.xxx.xxxx", you have it or you're playing games.
> >
> > Ok, did you get a verbal confirmation that you reached the right
> > number and did you enter the right number as instructed for leaving
> > voicemail after getting the verbal confirmation?
>
> Sightwalker, I wasn't taking notes but it was like someone picked up
> during the salutation message on your end. When I just now called the
> same number I received a totally different experience. Check your end if
> matters and ask who picked up the phone at 8:19.

It is possible that your line was crossed with someone else's line on
the call in question being that your call originated four time zones
east of here.

> I have just now called and left a private message not to be manipulated
> in any way. It is worded something like, "sightwalker, Jimmy here, Jesus
> is Lord, or as my King James' proclaims, "Jesus is the Lord". Then I had
> the obligatory goodbye and hung up.

Again, if an intelligible voice mail message with someone saying
"Jesus is the LORD" is found that can be assigned to a name, it would


be posted within 24 hrs at:

http://WDJW.net

Until then, there continues to be no evidence for this physician that
you are born again.

A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:

2 Peter 2:22

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d9df64bcd4317a85?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

May GOD give you, Jimmy, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel

tr...@finderr.com

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Aug 25, 2009, 8:02:27 AM8/25/09
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Truth:

Alert, alert. Do not engage in any exchange with andrew requiring you
to do anything. He is not the gate keeper of your christian status nor
your salvation. Here is the experience of someone who now regrets being
abused by andrew. Learn by his example.


Andrew B. Chung is a faux-disciple, a pretender, a person who has
betrayed a trust in the same breath as saying he speaks in the Holy
Spirit, and therefore is a disciple of Satan.

Warning, do not enter into any telephone conversation with him, he is not a
person you can trust. Beware, he tries to snare people by demanding you say
to him "Jesus is Lord" on the telephone, and if you don't, he accuses you of
not being a Christian. So you speak to him on the telephone and he betrays
your personal conversation with him to others for personal gain!!!

What grotesque witness!!

I was fooled by him and now I feel like an idiot and violated.

What a woeful and appalling witness of the Lord this 'heartless'
cardiologist
is, displaying the Lord Jesus in the image of an untrustworthy disgrace.
Shame Andrew!!!

Shame on you Andrew B. Chung, "HeartDoc" and provider of spiritual VEBs and
PVCs.

Michael Christ

Jimmy Alpha

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Aug 25, 2009, 10:02:23 AM8/25/09
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sightwalker wrote:

> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>
> Until then, there continues to be no evidence for this physician that
> you are born again.

Could be that you only judge the outside, hence your name sightwalker,
whereas God sees the righteous within?
Jimmy Alpha

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 25, 2009, 12:22:20 PM8/25/09
to
Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:

> >
> > Until then, there continues to be no evidence for this physician that
> > you are born again.
>
> Could be that you only judge the outside, hence your name sightwalker,
> whereas God sees the righteous within?

Recognition is not judgment.

This physician is not GOD so that his physically recognizing you as
being born again would be upon hearing the Holy Spirit, Who is GOD,
helping you say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth in accord with what
is written in the Bible (Romans 10:9 and 1 Cor 12:3).

monkfish

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Aug 25, 2009, 2:04:34 PM8/25/09
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>> >
>> > Until then, there continues to be no evidence for this physician that
>> > you are born again.
>>
>> Could be that you only judge the outside, hence your name sightwalker,
>> whereas God sees the righteous within?
>
> Recognition is not judgment.
>
> This physician is not GOD so that his physically recognizing you as
> being born again would be upon hearing the Holy Spirit, Who is GOD,
> helping you say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth in accord with what
> is written in the Bible (Romans 10:9 and 1 Cor 12:3).


You are simply being superstitious.
Can you publicly say "Lord help me
to stop being so superstitious"?

--
monkfish

the-...@findeer.com

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Aug 25, 2009, 3:00:08 PM8/25/09
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"This physician is not GOD so that his physically recognizing you as
being born again would be upon hearing the Holy Spirit, Who is GOD,
helping you say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth in accord with what is
written in the Bible (Romans 10:9 and 1 Cor 12:3).

Truth:

And that physician has no particular connection with the Holy Spirit,
despite that provided by distortion of thought and This physician
suffers greatly from symptoms
of his affliction.

Most important of all, that physician is entirely out of the loop when
it comes to anyone's salvation.

That includes claimed magic of hearing performed a certain phrase.

Such magical thinking is often a symptom of the affliction and also goes
with the adoption of the magical "chi" taken from the pagan taoist
religion. Using "chi" one is said to have certain magical powers.

He needs our prayers.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 25, 2009, 4:33:25 PM8/25/09
to
Monkfish wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>> >
>>> > Until then, there continues to be no evidence for this physician that
>>> > you are born again.
>>>
>>> Could be that you only judge the outside, hence your name sightwalker,
>>> whereas God sees the righteous within?
>>
>> Recognition is not judgment.
>>
>> This physician is not GOD so that his physically recognizing you as
>> being born again would be upon hearing the Holy Spirit, Who is GOD,
>> helping you say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth in accord with what
>> is written in the Bible (Romans 10:9 and 1 Cor 12:3).
>
> You are simply being superstitious.

Not for the discerning.

> Can you publicly say "Lord help me
> to stop being so superstitious"?

Would say that as "LORD continue to help me serve as Your lamp giving
Your light to everyone in this world so that all will praise You for
all the people they learn You have saved."

Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying
post-haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6d0ad1468eb538ad?

May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel


11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and

Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) and would come to trust the truth, Who is

al

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Aug 25, 2009, 4:53:34 PM8/25/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDick wrote:

> With all due respect, can you, Abby, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
> using your mouth?
>

Probably not. But I'll bet she can say "bite me" in response to your
incessant and idiotc query.

monkfish

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Aug 25, 2009, 7:58:33 PM8/25/09
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>>> >
>>>> > Until then, there continues to be no evidence for this physician that
>>>> > you are born again.
>>>>
>>>> Could be that you only judge the outside, hence your name sightwalker,
>>>> whereas God sees the righteous within?
>>>
>>> Recognition is not judgment.
>>>
>>> This physician is not GOD so that his physically recognizing you as
>>> being born again would be upon hearing the Holy Spirit, Who is GOD,
>>> helping you say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth in accord with what
>>> is written in the Bible (Romans 10:9 and 1 Cor 12:3).
>>
>> You are simply being superstitious.
>
> Not for the discerning.
>
>> Can you publicly say "Lord help me
>> to stop being so superstitious"?
>
> Would say that as "LORD continue to help me serve as Your lamp giving
> Your light to everyone in this world so that all will praise You for
> all the people they learn You have saved."


You sure don't know how to do it well, do you?

--
monkfish

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 26, 2009, 4:01:30 AM8/26/09
to

This physician speaks well enough to be understood by his patients.

Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

In the interim, may GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new


spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of

water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust

monkfish

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Aug 26, 2009, 10:02:45 AM8/26/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:


Are you humble enough to be a Christian?

--
monkfish

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 26, 2009, 1:00:25 PM8/26/09
to

Your question shows that you remain clueless about being born again
(i.e. being a Christian).

Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying

post-haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6d0ad1468eb538ad?

May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel


11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and

Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) and would come to trust the truth, Who is
Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?.

Jimmy Alpha

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Aug 26, 2009, 1:21:44 PM8/26/09
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sightwalker with a phd wrote:
> Jimmy Alpha wrote:

>> I have just now called and left a private message not to be manipulated
>> in any way. It is worded something like, "sightwalker, Jimmy here, Jesus
>> is Lord, or as my King James' proclaims, "Jesus is the Lord". Then I had
>> the obligatory goodbye and hung up.
>
> Again, if an intelligible voice mail message with someone saying
> "Jesus is the LORD" is found that can be assigned to a name, it would
> be posted within 24 hrs at:
>
> http://WDJW.net

Just checked sightwalker, the 24' mark has passed, so I take it you
haven't located my voice mails to your land of Oz hot line
(404.699.2780) you request for calls. I must say I'm glad, no elated my
calls weren't to Heart Doc Andrew in need of your supposed skills as an MD!

Chatlie, check your email boxes ay lo...@thetruth.com and
a...@heartmdphd.com for a wav or mp3 file within the next 0'21" to
73'02". Lord willing I can figure out the skills needed to make
something happen in that time frame just for you sightwalker. Again,
check at lo...@thetruth.com and a...@heartmdphd.com for an email from
jimmy...@operamail.com.
Jimmy "not to be daunted by my lack of sinoaptness" Alpha

monkfish

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Aug 26, 2009, 2:42:25 PM8/26/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:


Too proud of being born again to be humble to others?
What on earth makes you think you are supposed to know,
instead of having faith in your salvation?
You are confusing your superstitious experience
with the final judgment that would be made by Jesus Christ.
Let's make it real simple:
you are not supposed to know,
you are supposed to believe.
Got it?

--
monkfish

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 26, 2009, 4:22:22 PM8/26/09
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Jimmy Alpha

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Aug 26, 2009, 6:31:17 PM8/26/09
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sightwalker wrote:
> A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:
>
> 2 Peter 2:22
>
> Bottom line concerning you:

You can't add to this reply why you didn't find my call? I've done my
part sightwalker, now I'll email to you direct, and anyone who requests
a copy of my wav file.
Jimmy "who phoned twice and said what you asked" Alpha

------------------------------------------------------------------------


sightwalker with a phd wrote:
> Jimmy Alpha wrote:

>> I have just now called and left a private message not to be manipulated
>> in any way. It is worded something like, "sightwalker, Jimmy here, Jesus
>> is Lord, or as my King James' proclaims, "Jesus is the Lord". Then I had
>> the obligatory goodbye and hung up.
>
> Again, if an intelligible voice mail message with someone saying
> "Jesus is the LORD" is found that can be assigned to a name, it would
> be posted within 24 hrs at:
>
> http://WDJW.net

Just checked sightwalker, the 24' mark has passed, so I take it you
haven't located my voice mails to your land of Oz hot line
(404.699.2780) you request for calls. I must say I'm glad, no elated my
calls weren't to Heart Doc Andrew in need of your supposed skills as an MD!

Charlie, check your email boxes at lo...@thetruth.com and

MF Rules

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Aug 26, 2009, 7:13:25 PM8/26/09
to

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:9d93465f-e2fc-45e4...@g31g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> Mike McClean wrote:

>> Mike McClean wrote:
>> >> Warning, do not enter into any telephone conversation with him, he is
>> >> not
>> >> a
>> >> person you can trust. Beware, he tries to snare people by demanding
>> >> you
>> >> say
>> >> to him "Jesus is Lord" on the telephone, and if you don't, he accuses
>> >> you
>> >> of
>> >> not being a Christian. So you speak to him on the telephone and he
>> >> betrays
>> >> your personal conversation with him to others for personal gain!!!
>> >>
>> >> What grotesque witness!!
>>
>>
>> GSI wrote:
>> > "you screwed me up the arse, right in front of God. -Michael Christ,
>> > speaking of his recent fling with Andrew B. Chung.
>>
>> Hahahahahahahahahahahaha...
>>
>> Indeed.
>
> "Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit

Lie.

MF Rules

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Aug 26, 2009, 7:14:48 PM8/26/09
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I have worked in medicine all my life and have never known any
physician to hang out on these NG's or have the time to do so. I
wonder about the reality of who he says he is. I simply don't believe
it. As they say: IT DOES NOT COMPUTE.

---

The only thing Chung practices is trolling. He obvioulsy has more time to
troll the Internet and less time to "practice" medicine.

anon...@nowhere.you.know

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Aug 26, 2009, 9:23:38 PM8/26/09
to

Andrew B. Chung is a faux-disciple, a pretender, a person who has betrayed a
trust in the same breath as saying he speaks in the Holy Spirit, and
therefore is a disciple of Satan.

Warning, do not enter into any telephone conversation with him, he is not a


person you can trust. Beware, he tries to snare people by demanding you say
to him "Jesus is Lord" on the telephone, and if you don't, he accuses you of
not being a Christian. So you speak to him on the telephone and he betrays
your personal conversation with him to others for personal gain!!!

What grotesque witness!!

I was fooled by him and now I feel like an idiot and violated.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 27, 2009, 5:57:45 AM8/27/09
to
Jimmy Alpha wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:
> >
> > 2 Peter 2:22
>
> You can't add to this reply why you didn't find my call?

It is possible that you never actually made the call.

Jimmy Alpha

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Aug 27, 2009, 8:03:25 AM8/27/09
to
sightwalker wrote:
> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:
>>>
>>> 2 Peter 2:22
>> You can't add to this reply why you didn't find my call?
>
> It is possible that you never actually made the call.
>
> Bottom line concerning you:

Charlie, check your email boxes again at lo...@thetruth.com,
behu...@heartmdphd.com and a...@heartmdphd.com for a wav file. The Lord
God graciously gave this steward the skills (Jame 1:17) needed to make
you the file. Again, check at lo...@thetruth.com,
behu...@heartmdphd.com and a...@heartmdphd.com for an email from
jimmy...@operamail.com.

I know the email went to the a...@heartMDPhD.com from which I received
this reply, but now look for two;

From: spam...@heartmdphd.com
To: jimmy...@operamail.com
Cc:
Subject: Autoresponder message: Your email has been received.
Date: 26 Aug 2009 22:37:37 -0000

Thank you for your interest in emailing Dr. Chung.

If you do not receive a reply within 48 hrs please resend to
behu...@heartmdphd.com and leave a message at 404-699-2780 to inform
Dr. Chung about your difficulties.

Please visit http://HeartMDPhD.com/medfaqs.asp for additional instructions.

*But it seems at lo...@thetruth.com rejected the email perhaps because
of the size?*

To: jimmy...@operamail.com
CC:
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:37:31 +0500
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Jimmy Alpha

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 27, 2009, 9:43:06 AM8/27/09
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Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:
>>>>
>>>> 2 Peter 2:22
>>
>>> You can't add to this reply why you didn't find my call?
>>
>> It is possible that you never actually made the call.
>>
>> Bottom line concerning you:
>
> Charlie, check your email boxes again ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His answering
this physician's prayers concerning you:

http://WDJW.net

May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Jimmy, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.

Love in the truth,

HeartDoc Andrew <><

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

A gentile disciple of Jesus Christ
able to recognize the Messiah
even in the dark of night.

anon...@nowhere.you.know

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Aug 27, 2009, 9:53:19 AM8/27/09
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Jimmy Alpha

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Aug 27, 2009, 11:00:01 AM8/27/09
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sightwalker wrote:
> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 Peter 2:22
>>>> You can't add to this reply why you didn't find my call?
>>> It is possible that you never actually made the call.
>>>
>>> Bottom line concerning you:
>> Charlie, check your email boxes again ...
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo
>
> Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His answering
> this physician's prayers concerning you:

Perhaps, and my little wish you'd get your PhD was answered too. I still
await the *BIG* appeals for a humble, and gainfully working charlie. We
know, that's asking an awfully lot, but with God, all things are possible.

So, thank you for my salvation, and to think the Pope erroneously
credits my baptism! If he only knew. If he only had charlie to advise...

Oh, your lynk to my unedited "Jesus is Lord" wav isn't working on this end.
Jimmy "waiting apologies" Alpha

--
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chronic headache, invest one cent in a postal
card, send to Chamberlain Medicine Co.,
Des Moines, Iowa, your name and address plainly
on back. and they will forward you a free sample
of Chamberlain's Stomach and Liver Tablets.
Sold by L. I. Wood & Co.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 27, 2009, 11:31:11 AM8/27/09
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Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
> > Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2 Peter 2:22
> >>>
> >>>> You can't add to this reply why you didn't find my call?
> >>> It is possible that you never actually made the call.
> >>>
> >>> Bottom line concerning you:
> >>
> >> Charlie, check your email boxes again ...
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/edbde5e5f0d08c00?

> >
> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His answering
> > this physician's prayers concerning you:
> >
> > http://WDJW.net

>
> Perhaps, and my little wish you'd get your PhD was answered too.

Would suggest you start being more truthful and thereby stop sinning.

"Stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- LORD Jesus
Christ (John 5:14)

Amen.

May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right


(Jeremiah 9:24), Jimmy, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Jimmy Alpha

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Aug 27, 2009, 11:57:36 AM8/27/09
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sightwalker (with a phd thanks to *my* humble efforts) wrote:
> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
>>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2 Peter 2:22
>>>>>> You can't add to this reply why you didn't find my call?
>>>>> It is possible that you never actually made the call.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bottom line concerning you:
>>>> Charlie, check your email boxes again ...
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/edbde5e5f0d08c00?
>>>
>>> Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His answering
>>> this physician's prayers concerning you:
>>>
>>> http://WDJW.net
>> Perhaps, and my little wish you'd get your PhD was answered too.
>
> Would suggest you start being more truthful and thereby stop sinning.
>
> "Stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- LORD Jesus
> Christ (John 5:14)

Charlie, if you can take credit for my salvation, is it not fitting I
take credit for your PhD, which I must assume like my salvation was a
free gift?
--
Jimmy Alpha

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 27, 2009, 12:14:09 PM8/27/09
to
Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> >>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2 Peter 2:22
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You can't add to this reply why you didn't find my call?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is possible that you never actually made the call.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bottom line concerning you:
> >>>>
> >>>> Charlie, check your email boxes again ...
> >>>
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/edbde5e5f0d08c00?
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His answering
> >>> this physician's prayers concerning you:
> >>>
> >>> http://WDJW.net
> >>
> >> Perhaps, and my little wish you'd get your PhD was answered too.
> >
> > Would suggest you start being more truthful and thereby stop sinning.
> >
> > "Stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- LORD Jesus
> > Christ (John 5:14)

Amen.

> Charlie, if you can take credit for my salvation ...

This physician, whose name is not Charlie, did not take credit for
your salvation.

Would continue to gently suggest that you, Jimmy, stop lying before
you lose your mind:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/663a64b6e672b3e9?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to renew minds:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Jimmy Alpha

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Aug 27, 2009, 2:42:24 PM8/27/09
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Pray tell, what lies would 'em be sightwalker? This humble poster surely
doesn't want no *hocus pocus obeah* tagged on me! Is "Ben-Hua" a
Jamaican name perhaps? Do you play steel drums? Are you not quite, quite...

> before you lose your mind:

To be sure, a mind would be a terrible thing to lose, what, oh please,
what is it like little-one, whose name *is not* really charlie?
--
Jimmy Alpha

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 27, 2009, 3:01:10 PM8/27/09
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See above and below.

> This humble poster surely
> doesn't want no *hocus pocus obeah* tagged on me!

"As soon as a mortal human uses the word humble as a self-descriptor
there is a lie." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

Again, would continue to gently suggest that you, Jimmy, stop lying


before you lose your mind:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/edba0217b4fc3e30?

Jimmy Alpha

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Aug 27, 2009, 5:18:18 PM8/27/09
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Are you still writing them commandments sightwalker? Heap big task
judging the world ya know!
Jimmy Alpha

--
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Do you want to know about a wonderful new time, health and money-savin~
kitchen convenience? Then you should see the complete line of "1892"
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and easy to clean; makes kitchen work a delight instead of drudgery ;
saves your money, time, fuel; protects your health against metal
poisoning and serious troubles resulting from chipping of small
particles into the food, which is one of the dangers from the use of the
old style enameled wares. You buy patent carpet sweepers, egg-beaters,
dishwashers, clothes-wringers and many other time and labor saving
conveniences, but there is nothing that will prove a greater practical
household blessing than the 1892" Pure Spun Aluminum Ware. Lose no time
in seeing for yourself what it will do. Your money back if this ware
fails to do what is claimed for it,

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 27, 2009, 5:54:03 PM8/27/09
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Amen.

> Are you still writing them commandments sightwalker?

Your question indicates you are clueless about commandments.

monkfish

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Aug 27, 2009, 7:59:38 PM8/27/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
>> > Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Jimmy:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 2 Peter 2:22
>> >>>
>> >>>> You can't add to this reply why you didn't find my call?
>> >>> It is possible that you never actually made the call.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bottom line concerning you:
>> >>
>> >> Charlie, check your email boxes again ...
>> >
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/edbde5e5f0d08c00?
>> >
>> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His answering
>> > this physician's prayers concerning you:
>> >
>> > http://WDJW.net
>>
>> Perhaps, and my little wish you'd get your PhD was answered too.
>
> Would suggest you start being more truthful and thereby stop sinning.
>
> "Stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- LORD Jesus
> Christ (John 5:14)


Even if he has proven himself
to be born again?

--
monkfish

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 28, 2009, 3:58:26 AM8/28/09
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> > Amen.

>
> Even if he has proven himself
> to be born again?

The Holy Spirit has given the miracle (sign) that allows us to know
Jimmy's soul is saved though he is acting prodigal (see above).

Nonetheless, GOD could still allow physical harm to happen to Jimmy to
chasten him for continuing to act prodigal.

Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-

haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

In the interim, may GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new
spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of


water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust
the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

MF Rules

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Aug 28, 2009, 7:14:23 AM8/28/09
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
>> Charlie, if you can take credit for my salvation ...
>
> This physician, whose name is not Charlie,

Ok, not Charlie. BTW, not Charlie, you never answered my question. How's
your wife?

Andy "not Charlie" Chung

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Aug 28, 2009, 7:16:32 AM8/28/09
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
> Nonetheless, GOD could still allow physical harm to happen to Jimmy to
> chasten him for continuing to act prodigal.

You are a sick, sick person. I don't want to say man, because you're far
from that.

Jimmy Alpha

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Aug 28, 2009, 9:06:01 AM8/28/09
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Does anyone know what sightwalker is going off about now? I had black
instant coffee, and crunchy peanut butter on dry toast for breakfast!
Jimmy Alpha

--
A scoundrel plots evil,and his speech
is like a scorching fire.

Jimmy Alpha

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Aug 28, 2009, 9:38:12 AM8/28/09
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sightwalker with a phd said:

Sightwalker, I can be as prodigal as my means allow, I'm sure God is
just fine with it, as *it* is from Him to begin with!
Jimmy Alpha

monkfish

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Aug 28, 2009, 10:08:28 AM8/28/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:


Does that mean you were wrong
and Jimmy is not a faux-Christian?
I agree.

You really should stop sinning


"or something worse may happen to you."

Can you publicly say "Lord help me

stop being too proud to humble myself to others?

--
monkfish

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