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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 9, 2010, 2:26:42 AM11/9/10
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"End dieting. Eat foods that you like, lose weight, and boost your
muscle. Stop wasting time and money. Get the results."

Source:

VinceDelmonteFitness.com

It is smarter to http://WDJW.net/NotDiet

Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

Great Sage Itchy

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Nov 9, 2010, 3:36:14 AM11/9/10
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ANDREW B. CHUNG ALERT!!! ANDREW B. CHUNG ALERT!!!

WARNING!! YOU HAVE CLICKED ON ANDREW B. CHUNG SPAM,
YOU ARE STICKING YOUR NOSE DIRECTLY INTO THE ASSHOLE OF USENET.
WARNING!! WARNING!! WARNING!! WARNING!! WARNING!!
ANDREW B. CHUNG SPAM IS AIMED AT THE LOWEST OF USENET CREEPDOM.

DO YOU FIT THE "CHUNG" DEMOGRAPHIC?:
DO YOU STILL LIVE IN YOUR MOTHERS BASEMENT AT 35 YEARS OLD?
ARE YOU STILL A VIRGIN, WITH ZERO SOCIAL SKILLS, AND SOCIAL LIFE,?
DO YOU HATE ALL THE PEOPLE YOU SEE WITH ACTIVE SOCIAL LIVES, AND
BELIEVE THEY WILL SOON BURN IN HELL WHEN "LORD" JESUS CHRIST RETURNS?
DO YOU WATCH FOX-TV ALL DAY LONG (WHEN NOT TWEAKING YOUR GAMING RIG)?
ARE YOU ON SOCIAL SECURITY DISABILITY AND PSYCHE DRUGS?
IF YOU ANSWERED "YES" TO MOST OF THE ABOVE, PLEASE PROCEED TO THE CHUNG
WEBSITE.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 9, 2010, 4:52:35 AM11/9/10
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retired physician and cardiac patient Frank Hildner wrote in part as a
retiree and cardiac patient back in 2001:
>
> You lost your job because you talked yourself out of it.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?

It remains wise to tell patients the truth instead of harming them
with lies:

Primum non nocere

GSI furiously wrote:

<irrationally angry remarks snipped>

Bottom line concerning you, GSI:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a2f7ee7e467a65fc?

This has been affirmed by another:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ff30e76c4d3262f4?

... and more recently by yet another:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5e8b43791cd65c82?

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) prays for you as outlined
per the amazing Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation
earlier:

May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, GSI, a new heart and a
new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born
again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by Him so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are

"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Great Sage Itchy

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Nov 9, 2010, 6:31:04 AM11/9/10
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BOTTOM LINE ON CHUNG:
100% EGO, 100% OF THE TIME. NOTHING BUT PURE EGO TOTAL EGO SUPREME
EGOIST, TOTAL ARROGANCE, ASSHOLE (STREET TERM FOR EGOIST), ARROGANT
ASSHOLE, COMPLETE PHONY, LESS THAN ZERO SPIRITUALITY. INSANE EGOMANIAC.
INTERNET SPAMER/HUSTLER/STALKER/CREEP.
CHUNG IS A COCKROACH INFESTATION AND DESTROYER OF USENET*. DO NOT FEED
COCKROACHES. (*See sci.med.cardiology for a sample of pure, TOTAL
EGOMANIA unleashed upon UseNet)
--------------------------------------------------------------

Andrew B Chung wrote:


> Retired physician Frank Hildner wrote in part as a retiree back in 2001:
>
> You lost your job because you talked yourself out of it.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?

It remains wise to tell patients the truth instead of harming them

with lies. -Andrew B Chung
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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In the letter to Andrew B Chung from the "fat stinking gasbag"
"retiree" (not too retired to fire an asshole) Frank Hildner MD of the
Central Florida Heart Center, you will find the following sentence
which clearly shows that Dr. Hildner has a very good understanding of
the total arrogance, egotism, insanity, and even danger he is dealing
with:

" Also, [Dr. Chung] I believe what I do say will probably be twisted or
interpreted by you to suit your purposes. For that reason I will be as
direct and declarative as possible." - Frank Hildner MD

You are wasting your time, Dr. Hildner. Chung is INSANE, as you no
doubt know. Chung is all ego, and nothing but ego. So, as you say,
Chung will twist the facts until he is right and you are wrong.

Andrew B Chung was fired for extreme arrogance and insubordination.
Chung is an extreme EGOIST. Such people are "always right". They "KNOW"
the answers. You, me, and all others are "always wrong". Our souls are
"perishing", while Chung basks proudly "in the light of Holiness" and
"righteousness". There is no other possibility for the TOTAL EGOIST.
But just to be absolutely sure, Chung has joined forces with no less
than "Jesus" and "God". <sarcasm> So you can "rest assured" that every
word from his keyboard is composed "in the Holy Spirit", and is
therefore the direct "word of God" and "What Jesus would want (WDJW)".
Obviously, the firing of the egomaniac Chung by the stupid and
incompetent Central Florida Heart Ctr. was a miscarriage of justice.
Dr. Frank Hildner MD and staff failed to acknowledge Chung's close ties
to "Jesus" and "God" which made his medical opinions far more
authoritative than those of literally any other so-called "expert". The
fact that Chung had very little experience is insignificant in light of
his "Holiness" and "Righteousness"</sarcasm>.
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Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the letter below to Chung:
Dr. Chung:

Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.

After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that you
are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
possible.

Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions and
border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are the
only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable person
seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that is out
of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I have in the
past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the situation from
outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation suffers
more.

Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can call
on physicians from around the world and this community to attest to it.
I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website. How
do you think what you have said would look to another physician-perhaps
an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would conclude
that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team player?

Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter lightly.
Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of my
professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either me or
the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you may
not state that I am practicing less than optimum cardiology. Once again,
if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I
will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a
hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a censure,
that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and all
future applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense
should tell you that hitting back in your situation is counterproductive
and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you may
have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a professional
community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work with
your colleagues.

Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your future
which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of hitting back
and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks upon such
attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will continue
to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you talked
yourself out of it.

Frank Hildner MD
Central Florida Heart Ctr
3310 SW 34th St
Ocala, FL
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TAGS: Andrew B. Chung, WDJW, sci.med.cardiology, Emory University,
WDJW.net, 2PD-OMER Approach, total egoist, insane, cybercriminal,
sociopath, internet creep, usenet #1 asshole, certifiable sick asshole,
human garbage, Taylor Momsen, closet homosexual, erectile dysfunction,
NAMBLA, young boys, molestation, chikan, pervert, pedophile, extreme
fundamentalist Christian asshole, pseudo-christian, "Jesus is LORD" aka
"EGO-Christianity"*, psychopath, totally arrogant spammer, usenet
cockroach, cyber-stalker, satanic demon, egomaniac, David Berkowitz:
AKA "Son of Sam", Ted Bundy, Richard Ramirez, Charles Manson, chinky
lady-boy, Dongdan, "chicks with dicks", "God loves fags", "Jesus is
LORD GOD KING BUFU".

*EGO-Christianity - "righteousness", "holiness" and "everlasting life"
for assholes (egoists).

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 9, 2010, 6:58:47 AM11/9/10
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retired physician and cardiac patient Frank Hildner wrote in part as a
retiree and cardiac patient back in 2001:

>
> You lost your job because you talked yourself out of it.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?

It remains wise to tell patients the truth instead of harming them

MU

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Nov 9, 2010, 3:06:14 PM11/9/10
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 02:26:42 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> "End dieting. Eat foods that you like, lose weight, and boost your
> muscle. Stop wasting time and money. Get the results."
>
> Source:
>
> VinceDelmonteFitness.com
>
> It is smarter to http://WDJW.net/NotDiet

These BB morons have been touting special diets and "muscle building
tricks" for so long you would think by sheer repetition that the
buying public would see through this BS. It goes all the way back to
that flag-waving, nutcase Jack LaLanne. Juice me, Jackie. *lol*

Lyle McDonald said it best from the old misc.fitness.weights days
"fitness ain't hypertrophy" and Delmonte is about as much about
fitness as he is about Truth In Advertising.

Building larger muscle size is a very simple matter of weight training
style. Fitness, otoh, is partially about hypertrophy and only since
hypertrophy comes as a secondary element of body recomposition.
Fitness begins with a healthy cardio-respiratory system and a
responsive, coordinated cerebro-nervous system; everything else is
mainly for show.

To optimize your fitness, you have to optimize consumption since
overconsumption inevitably leads to overweight and obesity. There is
no fitness in obesity and fitness is always compromised when
overweight.

Any approach to optimizing consumption that does not begin with volume
control is doomed to failure. Enter the 2LB Diet and add An Ounce of
Common Sense.

Level your consumption to 2lbs/day, toss in a rapid walk for 45
minutes or so at least 5x weekly, then, if you want, develop a routine
that promotes full range of motion and movement. This would include
squats, power lifts and associated, strength-power training and forget
what the heck your biceps look like.

If you can't walk without becoming breathless, squat to pick up a
(grand)child or lift a set of dinner plates into an overhead cabinet,
what difference does big guns and ripped abs have?

Ace

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Nov 9, 2010, 6:50:09 PM11/9/10
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What folks really want to hear about is the Twinkie Diet. A nutrition
professor lost 27 pounds on Twinkie diet!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/facts-and-arguments/nutrition-professor-lost-27-pounds-on-twinkie-diet/article1792161/

http://preview.tinyurl.com/29llwgg

http://tinyurl.com/29llwgg

You'll thank me later.

A*

MU

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Nov 9, 2010, 7:27:51 PM11/9/10
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Gee, no comments, Ace* ? Crossposting got your goat, Ace*, sure
wouldn't want your bootlickers like don on AVLV to have you ripped to
pieces by MU now would you, Ace*?

MU*

Las Vegas Don, in Vegas!

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Nov 9, 2010, 9:49:06 PM11/9/10
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On Nov 9, 2:06 pm, MU <efacsimi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 02:26:42 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > "End dieting. Eat foods that you like, lose weight, and boost your
> > muscle. Stop wasting time and money. Get the results."
>
> > Source:
>
> > VinceDelmonteFitness.com
>
> > It is smarter tohttp://WDJW.net/NotDiet

Damn you! Damned you and your twinkies! ...uh, can we use chocolate
milk? :)

Don

Ace

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Nov 9, 2010, 10:42:10 PM11/9/10
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I guess this didn't appear on your newsreader:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.vacation.las-vegas/msg/07f06256bb196dbe?hl=en

> Crossposting got your goat, Ace*, sure
> wouldn't want your bootlickers like don on AVLV to have you ripped to
> pieces by MU now would you, Ace*?

Don is a kook. No one has ever licked my boots, just ask Mr. V. See, I
have you at a disadvantage. I've lurked in sci.med.cardiology for
years. Remember those funny photoshops of the fake Dr. Chung
restaurant ads where it showed Asian women preparing cats? I
especially liked the one showing the lady using a blow torch on a
cat's head. Remember "It's The Cat's Meow"? I know all about you, top
to bottom, inside out, from years of reading sci.med.cardiology.

You OTOH are still trying to figure me out.

How much time have you wasted backtracking?

You want this so bad you can taste it. You're positively salivating to
"rip me apart". Such emotion, such passion. Too bad you don't have my
knack for apathy.

This is where I switch over to another newsreader. I doesn't accept
cross posts. It has a killfile.

Plonking you will absolutely ruin your fun. So, buh bye. PLONK

A*

Mr. V

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Nov 9, 2010, 11:13:48 PM11/9/10
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On Nov 9, 7:42 pm, Ace <avlvsvery...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Don is a kook. No one has ever licked my boots, just ask Mr. V.

For Ace* to have sycophantic bootlickers would imply that his
magnetism draws followers.

So far as I can tell, the only thing he draws is flies.

And tarantulas.

MU

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Nov 10, 2010, 2:36:29 PM11/10/10
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Yep, no chance you're going to show your Ace* ass in front of AVLV,
you know as well as I do that you're a pathetic little weasel who only
shoots his mouth off when he's hidden away.

MU*

Mr. V

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Nov 10, 2010, 7:18:48 PM11/10/10
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On Nov 10, 11:36 am, MU <efacsimi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yep, no chance you're going to show your Ace* ass in front of AVLV,
> you know as well as I do that you're a pathetic little weasel who only
> shoots his mouth off when he's hidden away.
>
> MU*

Errrr ... not quite.

Ace* may be crazy; he may be autistic / have Asperger's; he may not
photograph well, but by thunder, he is NOT afraid to meet people in
public in regard to internet / AVLV matters.

Indeed, I have no reason to doubt that Ace* would in fact show up to
meet YOU at a public place of your choosing in Las Vegas.

I doubt very much that he would harm you.

Ace* and I are adversaries on this board, but I will vouch for him on
this point: he's not a faceless coward or an anonymous bully: he'll
gladly meet you.

Buy him a beer.

Ace

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Nov 10, 2010, 8:12:03 PM11/10/10
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On Nov 10, 4:18 pm, "Mr. V" <allagosh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 11:36 am, MU <efacsimi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yep, no chance you're going to show your Ace* ass in front of AVLV,
> > you know as well as I do that you're a pathetic little weasel who only
> > shoots his mouth off when he's hidden away.
>
> > MU*
>
> Errrr ... not quite.
>
> Ace* may be crazy; he may be autistic / have Asperger's; he may not
> photograph well, but by thunder, he is NOT afraid to meet people in
> public in regard to internet / AVLV matters.
>
> Indeed, I have no reason to doubt that Ace* would in fact show up to
> meet YOU at a public place of your choosing in Las Vegas.
>
> I doubt very much that he would harm you.

Remember those pictures I posted with me holding all my guns?

> Ace* and I are adversaries on this board, but I will vouch for him on
> this point: he's not a faceless coward or an anonymous bully: he'll
> gladly meet you.
>
> Buy him a beer.

I'm into the hard stuff these days V.
But you're right, I've done several face to face meetings with
adversaries from Usenet over the years.
Except for those who wouldn't agree to meet me, like you or Gary or
Payton. Crazy Big Mikey who's had restraining orders placed against
him, did though.

Would you like me to pick you up something from Peru?

A*

A*

Mr. V

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Nov 10, 2010, 8:20:27 PM11/10/10
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On Nov 10, 5:12 pm, Ace <avlvsveryo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 4:18 pm, "Mr. V" <allagosh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 10, 11:36 am, MU <efacsimi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Yep, no chance you're going to show your Ace* ass in front of AVLV,
> > > you know as well as I do that you're a pathetic little weasel who only
> > > shoots his mouth off when he's hidden away.
>
> > > MU*
>
> > Errrr ... not quite.
>
> > Ace* may be crazy; he may be autistic / have Asperger's; he may not
> > photograph well, but by thunder, he is NOT afraid to meet people in
> > public in regard to internet / AVLV matters.
>
> > Indeed, I have no reason to doubt that Ace* would in fact show up to
> > meet YOU at a public place of your choosing in Las Vegas.
>
> > I doubt very much that he would harm you.
>
> Remember those pictures I posted with me holding all my guns?
>
> > Ace* and I are adversaries on this board, but I will vouch for him on
> > this point: he's not a faceless coward or an anonymous bully: he'll
> > gladly meet you.
>
>
> But you're right, I've done several face to face meetings with
> adversaries from Usenet over the years.
> Except for those who wouldn't agree to meet me, like you ...

Hey, I never refused to meet you.

I went to the main poker room downtown, didn't see the group, and
left.


>
> Would you like me to pick you up something from Peru?
>
> A*

How about a couple kilos of Peruvian flake?

http://www.tagohio.com/images/Cocain5.jpg


Ace

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Nov 10, 2010, 8:49:05 PM11/10/10
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On Nov 10, 5:20 pm, "Mr. V" <allagosh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, I never refused to meet you.
>
> I went to the main poker room downtown, didn't see the group, and
> left.

Yeah, but what about when you were in town your last visit after that?
No call, no show.
I wanted to meet you bad and now it's too late. I'll be gone from
Usenet forever after today.

> > Would you like me to pick you up something from Peru?
>
> > A*
>
> How about a couple kilos of Peruvian flake?
>

> http://www.tagohio.com/images/Cocain5.jpg- Hide quoted text -

<sigh> I thought you were going to ask me for a tarantula.
I'm not fleeing from MU putting me in jail, just so I can get busted
by the Federales

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxzJAF1BxP4

A*

MU

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Nov 10, 2010, 9:46:04 PM11/10/10
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 16:18:48 -0800 (PST), Mr. V wrote:

> On Nov 10, 11:36�am, MU <efacsimi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yep, no chance you're going to show your Ace* ass in front of AVLV,
>> you know as well as I do that you're a pathetic little weasel who only
>> shoots his mouth off when he's hidden away.
>>
>> MU*
>
> Errrr ... not quite.
>
> Ace* may be crazy; he may be autistic / have Asperger's; he may not
> photograph well, but by thunder, he is NOT afraid to meet people in
> public in regard to internet / AVLV matters.
>
> Indeed, I have no reason to doubt that Ace* would in fact show up to
> meet YOU at a public place of your choosing in Las Vegas.

I have no intention of doing any such thing. One day, I'll just show
up just like I have a dozen times before with others.



> I doubt very much that he would harm you.

I know for a fact he can't.



> Ace* and I are adversaries on this board, but I will vouch for him on
> this point: he's not a faceless coward or an anonymous bully: he'll
> gladly meet you.
>
> Buy him a beer.

Help yourself.

He's dug his hole.

MU*

Mr. V

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Oh, please.

Just another internet tough guy, threatening to sue, to arrest.

Here come the judge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hIcKkKID8k

Nobody takes Ace* seriously, except for you.

So yeah, get him barred from Usenet.

Get him arrested.

If you have the dough, hire a lawyer and sue, sue, sue.

Just Do It.

MU

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Nov 11, 2010, 12:10:02 AM11/11/10
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> Just Do It.

You see things in such simple black-white propositions, not so
unimaginable since AVLV is about as important as
alt.shit4brains-comehere and as complex as a Slinky and almost as
necessary.

It's outside of your realm of serious thought that a sci group based
on cardiology might not be the best place to libel, troll and pass
bad, unprofessional and unsolicited advice. People die that way but
I'm certain you, just like Ace*, could care less.

I for one don't feel a bit bad for him either. He's a career whiner,
a Usenet abuser, an exposed forger, and a pathological liar. Wrap that
with his "Oh gosh, it's not my fault, I've got a screw loose" mantra,
gee, what a perfect guy for a cardiology newsgroup.

Either one alone is reason enough to use him for target practice. Put
the any of the two together and it's almost morally wrong to not beat
him with a brick every chance you get.

And now, having disposed of all your idiotic points yet again, they
and you are dismissed. (Although I know you will blither on
nonetheless - it's a compulsive disorder you seem unable to
overcome.)

MU*

MU

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Nov 11, 2010, 12:11:14 AM11/11/10
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:49:05 -0800 (PST), Ace wrote:

> I'll be gone from
> Usenet forever after today.

What's the over and under Ace* is lying? Anyone?

uh-huh.

MU*

Ace

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Nov 11, 2010, 12:28:52 AM11/11/10
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Mr. V, I beg you don't do this. This man is dead serious, and I am
terrified beyond all reason. I am currently taking 5mg of Xanax an
hour. At 6:00AM I will be on the bus to Panama.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hIcKkKID8k
>
> Nobody takes Ace* seriously, except for you.
>
> So yeah, get him barred from Usenet.
>
> Get him arrested.
>
> If you have the dough, hire a lawyer and sue, sue, sue.
>
> Just Do It.

STOP IT! What are you trying to do to me?!!!!

A*

MU

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Nov 11, 2010, 1:07:44 AM11/11/10
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Gee, no comments on my post, Ace* ? Crossposting got your goat, Ace*,

Mr. V

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Nov 11, 2010, 1:08:55 AM11/11/10
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On Nov 10, 9:10 pm, MU <efacsimi...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> You see things in such simple black-white propositions, not so
> unimaginable since AVLV is about as important as
> alt.shit4brains-comehere and as complex as a Slinky and almost as
> necessary.

Hey, not bad.

For a troll, you have some wit.


>
> It's outside of your realm of serious thought that a sci group based
> on cardiology might not be the best place to libel, troll and pass
> bad, unprofessional and unsolicited advice.

Yeah, save that shit for the alt.rec.travel group.

> People die that way but
> I'm certain you, just like Ace*, could care less.

Close.

It's "I COULDN'T care less."

Please make a note of it.


>
> I for one don't feel a bit bad for him either. He's a career  whiner,
> a Usenet abuser, an exposed forger, and a pathological liar. Wrap that
> with his "Oh gosh, it's not my fault, I've got a screw loose" mantra,
> gee, what a perfect guy for a cardiology newsgroup.

Oh, I agree: he's a real piece of work.

> Either one alone is reason enough to use him for target practice. Put
> the any of the two together and it's almost morally wrong to not beat
> him with a brick every chance you get.

Yes, I like to whack him like a mole.

Good sport.


>
> And now, having disposed of all your idiotic points yet again, they
> and you are dismissed.  (Although I know you will blither on
> nonetheless - it's a compulsive disorder you seem unable to
> overcome.)
>
> MU*

Again with the snappy retorts.

For a douchebag, you seem somewhat learned.

My advice: take your little schoolboy wedgie fest back to YOUR group;
we're sliding into oblivion over here, and by god we like it, we like
it a lot.

Now piss off you long-winded internet tough guy.

Ace

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Nov 11, 2010, 1:17:34 AM11/11/10
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Mr. V, you really just don't understand the harm I have done.
sci.med.cardiology is not a place for trolling. It is a place where
only serious conversations about cardiology take place.

Even though I might be posting from another newsgroup this thread is
crossposted to such as alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.vacation.las-
vegas, misc.health.alternative, alt.messianic.yeshua, alt.atheism. It
still shows up in sci.med.cardiology.

**You can know for a fact, that Dr. Chung does not want anything other
than cardiology discussed when he cross posts sci.med.cardiology with
alt.atheism. And that he in no way is inviting outsiders to flame him
or inviting people to troll.**

I'm sure when you Googled sci.med.cardiology for keywords such as
"Chung kook" "Chung quack" "Chung troll" "Chung spam" "Chung false
Christian" You came up with one big goose egg and only saw serious
conversations about cardiology exclusively taking place.

Just because on a daily basis you see stuff posted in
sci.med.cardiology such as:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/40ed81578eb9664f?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1fc94d83f32eb8de?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9459c4fa2821abe6?hl=en
How this man, Ken, has escaped MU all these years is beyond me. But as
for myself, I'm taking no chances.

Another terrorist is:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6a595f97cfac773c?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a86ae7969af68f90?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/eaf80af040827f5a?hl=en
This is another man who is on borrowed time.

People's lives depend on what is posted on Usenet. Joking around and
misinformation about anything Dr. Chung writes to a dozen crossposted
newsgroups could lead to a loss of life. I most likely already have
already caused at least one coronary related death and I belong in
jail for it. But like a coward I'm going to dodge guilt and run away
from my comeuppance - to South America.

A*

%

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Nov 11, 2010, 1:37:55 AM11/11/10
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what group are you posting from

Mr. V

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Nov 11, 2010, 1:37:48 AM11/11/10
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On Nov 10, 10:17 pm, Ace <avlvsveryo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> People's lives depend on what is posted on Usenet. Joking around and
> misinformation about anything Dr. Chung writes to a dozen crossposted
> newsgroups could lead to a loss of life. I most likely already have
> already caused at least one coronary related death and I belong in
> jail for it. But like a coward I'm going to dodge guilt and run away
> from my comeuppance - to South America.
>
> A*

Yeah, makes sense.

Enjoy Peru.

I'll turn the lights off after you leave.

Do bring back some new tarantulas, OK?

MU

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Nov 11, 2010, 1:47:53 AM11/11/10
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:08:55 -0800 (PST), Mr. V wrote:

> My advice:...

...bores MU.

OK, let me put it another way. In the movie Jurassic Park, there's a
scene where a researcher sticks her hand in a pile of dinosaur dung,
digs around, and pulls out an undigested berry. I'm sure if I
listened to more "V", I too may discover a berry, but to me, the
price is too high.

Ace

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MU

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Nov 11, 2010, 1:58:45 AM11/11/10
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:17:34 -0800 (PST), Ace wrote:

> People's lives depend on what is posted on Usenet.

The sickness of this is that you don't believe it or understand
Usenet, specifically the history of sci.med.cardiology. Nor do you
understand the significance of the Google archives which is perhaps
the most pathetic part of this post above since you use Google Groups
to post.

You are a stone hypocrite. You have zero credibility. It's clear as a
bright summer day why you get the treatment you get almost every time
you post. You foist the most ludicrous, self contradictory arguments
I've ever seen anyone even attempt in my entire life, then try and
defend them. You're absolutely insane. Obsessed.

Feel free to stay in character and scream about what a "troll" I am
some more for pointing out your glaringly obvious dishonesty.

*Summary:* As long as you get your kicks, you have what you want and
damned the cost to anyone and everyone else who has or might come to
SMC.

Just like you did when you were on your death bed and pleading with
Chung to help you out. That's all forgotten now, you're a clown with
an obsessive need for attention.

I bet your wife and kids are really, really...oh wait, they don't know
about your participation on SMC. :)

heh.

MU*

Ace

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Nov 11, 2010, 2:07:56 AM11/11/10
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I'm not coming back Mr V. Like the other bazillion people from umpteen
newsgroups who have made the mistake of laughing at MU for over a
decade; calling MU names like "kook" "idiot" "liar" "fool" "moron"
"creep" "dork" "MU Chung" Chung MU" et al I will be joining them in
the secret refuge constructed for the countless enemies of MU in Port
Au Price, South America.

Farewell forever. And you know I have never said I was leaving Usenet
without meaning it (other than those two or eight hundred times) so
good bye forever, I'm off to Anchorage, South America. Join me you
fool, before it's too late. The MU man cometh....

A*

A

MU

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Nov 11, 2010, 2:17:09 AM11/11/10
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Mr. V is posting from Ace* "home" newsgroup, alt.vacation.las-vegas.
Ace* got to sci.med.cariology when he thought he was dying and sought
Chung's advice. Later, Ace* found out he had diarrhea or some such and
stuck around to get his jollies at the expense of people who need to
come here.

Fun guy.

Wonder how he feels about the Holocaust.

MU*

Carolyn Blevins

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Nov 11, 2010, 2:26:12 AM11/11/10
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:17:34 -0800 (PST), Ace wrote:

> Mr. V, you really just don't understand the harm I have done.
> sci.med.cardiology is not a place for trolling. It is a place where
> only serious conversations about cardiology take place.

> People's lives depend on what is posted on Usenet.

> A*

Ace whoever you are I feel so sorry for you. I cannot imagine the pain
you must be in to have done these cruel things. To post these phrases.
To be so unfeeling and sarcastic. Whatever makes you this terribly
ill, I pray you will receive relief. Is it much to ask that you stop
this for both our sake and yours?

MU

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Nov 11, 2010, 2:30:05 AM11/11/10
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Ain't gonna happen Carolyn. Black hearts attached to diseased minds.

Concheta

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Nov 11, 2010, 2:43:01 AM11/11/10
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On Nov 10, 10:37 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mr. V wrote:
> > On Nov 10, 9:10 pm, MU <efacsimi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> You see things in such simple black-white propositions, not so
> >> unimaginable since AVLV is about as important as
> >> alt.shit4brains-comehere and as complex as a Slinky and almost as
> >> necessary.
>
> > Hey, not bad.
>
> > For a troll, you have some wit.
>
> > Now piss off you long-winded internet tough guy.
>
> what group are you posting from

Mr. V is posting from alt.vacation.las-vegas which MU Chung has
included in his many crossposts with sci.med.cardiology, in order to
promote strictly cardiology related discussions.

C*

Concheta

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Nov 11, 2010, 2:57:41 AM11/11/10
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My late husband was a fool using Google Usenet archives to dig up dirt
on MU.

MU however is very smart using Google Usenet archives to dig up dirt
on Ace.

Anyone who finds this contradictory, is an idiot.

C*

Concheta

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Nov 11, 2010, 3:04:05 AM11/11/10
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On Nov 10, 11:26 pm, Carolyn Blevins <carolynray...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ace whoever you are I feel so sorry for you. I cannot imagine the pain
> you must be in to have done these cruel things. To post these phrases.
> To be so unfeeling and sarcastic. Whatever makes you this terribly
> ill, I pray you will receive relief. Is it much to ask that you stop
> this for both our sake and yours?

It's okay, Carolyn Mu (yeah, everyone knows it's you, Mu), Ace is
deservedly dead of a heart attack and won't be bothering anyone
anymore.

C*

MU

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Nov 11, 2010, 3:33:49 AM11/11/10
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:43:01 -0800 (PST), Concheta wrote:

> NNTP-Posting-Host: 96.26.251.85

Also known as Ace* the *Forger*

MU

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Nov 11, 2010, 3:36:41 AM11/11/10
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 21:28:52 -0800 (PST), Ace wrote:

> This man is dead serious,

Serious? Yep. Actionable. When you see MU no longer posting.

MU*

MU

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On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 00:04:05 -0800 (PST), Concheta wrote:

> Ace is deservedly dead of a heart attack and won't be bothering
> anyone anymore.
>

> A*

Is this happening soon?

MU*

Concheta

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Nov 11, 2010, 3:50:16 AM11/11/10
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No you see, Ace always used his own email address and simply changed
the posting name as a parody of someone. That way everyone could
clearly see it was really Ace. And of course Ace did parodies of
artificial names such as "Mr. V", or "MU" etc.

C*

Concheta

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Nov 11, 2010, 3:59:36 AM11/11/10
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Wow, that's a hard one. See, Ace is from another planet. So one must
appeal to Einstein's Theory Of Relativity http://www.fullspate.net/archive/relativity.html
to compute "happening soon" if you know what I mean.

Say, now that I'm a widow, want to get in some nooky time with me?

A*

Concheta

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Nov 11, 2010, 4:03:29 AM11/11/10
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On Nov 11, 12:59 am, Concheta <hotsenor...@topnurses.net> wrote:
> A*

Ha ha, I meant C* of course. I'm quite intoxicated celebrating Ace's
death.

C*

Conchita

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Nov 11, 2010, 4:39:33 AM11/11/10
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On Nov 10, 11:17 pm, MU <efacsimi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mr. V is posting from Ace* "home" newsgroup, alt.vacation.las-vegas.
> Ace* got to sci.med.cariology when he thought he was dying and sought
> Chung's advice. Later, Ace* found out he had diarrhea or some such and
> stuck around to get his jollies at the expense of people who need to
> come here.
>
> Fun guy.
>
> Wonder how he feels about the Holocaust.
>
> MU*

Is "the Holocaust" the term you use for the huge amount of flaming you
were receiving from dozens of people from the dozen newsgroups you
were crossposting to?

That's what Ace saw, one person after another laughing at Chung
calling him a "kook" "lunatic" "insane" "quack"
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4448ffe34e3f9712?hl=en
(be sure to view the entire thread and others like it) And there are
still daily warnings not to heed his advice.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2b9c3b5fe127571d?hl=en

The only thing Ace ever received from Chung looked like this:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/57f5d8f784e1850d?hl=en

That constant sci.med.cardiology circus lunacy aside: in my opinion,
anyone who seeks a Usenet diagnosis of any kind is a fool. They're
very unlikely to receive proper information. Anything resembling a
diagnosis on Usenet should be viewed a potentially dubious. Seeking
any form of diagnosis on Usenet is dangerous and could lead to serious
injury or death. I'm sure most anyone with an ounce of commonsense
would agree with me.

C*

Conchita

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Nov 11, 2010, 5:03:35 AM11/11/10
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Oh and BTW, Ace wasn't making fun of anything having to do with
cardiology. He was making fun of Chung's diet ideas Chung says he
received from God by via divine revelation and Chung's offbeat
theological views.

C*

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