No such thing.
Christianity remains a personal relationship with the risen Christ
Jesus.
It remains absolutely right for those of us who are born again (either
Jew or gentile) to wait on the KING instead of keeping Him waiting.
Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/13bd7f30793258d2?
May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
> Mike McClean wrote:
> >
> > Today's Christianity:
>
> No such thing.
>
> Christianity remains a personal relationship with the risen Christ
> Jesus.
>
> It remains absolutely right for those of us who are born again (either
> Jew or gentile) to wait on the KING instead of keeping Him waiting.
There is NOTHING Christian about you. You are a total EGOIST and Usenet
Troll. Everything you write here is a LIE.
> Bottom line concerning you:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/13bd7f30793258d2?
>
> May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
> (Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
> deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
> sinning.
Total ARROGANCE. You are in no position to JUDGE anyone.
> Amen.
ASSHOLE
> Love in the truth,
Everything you write here is a LIE.
> Andrew the EGOIST/CREEP<><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Board-certified Insane
SOrry - but christianity is a belief - and no one can prove they have a
personal relationship with a god.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a2f7ee7e467a65fc?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
May GOD give you, GSI, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20
and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John
3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
Amen.
Calling a spade a spade is not name-calling. Calling children of the
ancient serpent (satan) vipers is not name-calling. Calling a
hypocrite a hypocrite is not name-calling. Calling a spiritually
blind guide a blind guide is not name-calling. Calling a fool a fool
is not name-calling.
Bottom line:
When GOD says you are something, you are that something.
Otoh, your calling a person (Chuck) an arsehole is name-calling.
Truth is simple.
Michael Christ
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
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Michael Christ
"Michael Christ" <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote in message
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"Stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- Holy Spirit
(referring to John 5:14)
Amen.
With all due respect, you, Rod, can publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using
your mouth, can't you?
With all due respect, can you, Rod, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using
your mouth?
I've already done that Andrew, very close to 3 weeks past. Check your
answer machine.
Indeed you did without this physician even asking you.
> Check your answer machine.
Others can hear the voicemail for themselves:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BethAdonai/Rod
Do you, Rod, want to become one of Jesus' gentile disciples?
I am NOT worthy, Andrew. I'm a follower, not a leader.
The question was not whether you are worthy but whether you want to
become one of Jesus' gentile disciples.
"I baptize you with water. But One more powerful than I will come, the
thongs of Whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. HE will baptize you
with the Holy Spirit and with fire." -- John the Baptist (Luke 3:16)
Is there desire in your heart, Rod, to become a gentile disciple of
LORD Jesus Christ?
Love in the truth,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
A gentile disciple of Jesus Christ
able to recognize the Messiah
even in the dark of night.
My answer isn't a no Andrew, but a statement of fact. Before I could
ever consider undertaking a responsibility that huge I would need to
have much broader shoulders than I have, and a deeper knowledge of
the Creator than I do, to willingly do that. I wouldn't attempt to
be more than a follower without the Father Himself telling me to do
it.
It has given me some things to think about..
You don't seem to realize that
the Holy Spirit is talking to you.
--
monkfish
> Dear Rod,
>
> With all due respect, you, Rod, can publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using
> your mouth, can't you?
Can you publicly say "The Holy Spirit dwells in me"?
--
monkfish
> Rod wrote:
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>> Rod wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Rod,
>>>>>
>>>>> With all due respect, you, Rod, can publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using
>>>>> your mouth, can't you?
>>>> I've already done that Andrew, very close to 3 weeks past.
>>>
>>> Indeed you did without this physician even asking you.
>>>
>>>> Check your answer machine.
>>>
>>> Others can hear the voicemail for themselves:
>>>
>>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/BethAdonai/Rod
>>>
>>> Do you, Rod, want to become one of Jesus' gentile disciples?
>>
>> I am NOT worthy, Andrew. I'm a follower, not a leader.
>
>
> My answer isn't a no Andrew, but a statement of fact. Before I could
> ever consider undertaking a responsibility that huge I would need to
> have much broader shoulders than I have, and a deeper knowledge of
> the Creator than I do, to willingly do that. I wouldn't attempt to
> be more than a follower without the Father Himself telling me to do
> it.
>
> It has given me some things to think about..
Do you really think Andrew is "one of Jesus' gentile disciples"?
Worse yet, do you really think Andrew gets to decide
who can be "one of Jesus' gentile disciples"?
--
monkfish
You should think about the fact that Chung is just trolling you and you're
too naive to figure it out.
"It is absolutely right for us to wait on the KING than to keep Him
waiting. Think about it."
Source:
Love in the truth,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
This physician would say that as "This gentile disciple of Jesus is
presently in the Holy Spirit."
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6d0ad1468eb538ad?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
In the interim, may GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new
spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of
water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust
the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
The lamp must be full.
Striving to be a good disciple isn't good enough.
Ranting and raving and chanting 'Jesus is Lord' on video will not save you.
Chanting 'Jesus is Lord' on video is a sign of someone who is trying to
believe.
Michael Christ
So just what do you "know" of this creator?
Nothing new.
> The lamp must be full.
It is when we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), are
clothed with Power from on High that our lamps are full.
If you, Mike, are worried about your lamp being empty, you can not
stop worrying until after you become one of Jesus' disciples too in
order to be in the Holy Spirit as is this physician.
Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f1ee77f09dcc5e15?
May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.
Amen.
Self-election and self-anointing does not a son of God make, Andrew.
Michael Christ
The answer is yes.
This does mean you have been chosen because the desire in your heart
to become a gentile disciple of Jesus is from GOD:
Being mindful of WDJW, we should talk either in person or on the
phone. Would be more than glad to call you and incur all LD charges.
Please kindly let me know how to reach you via either voicemail or
email. Am looking forward with joyful anticipation (wonderfully
hungrier :-) at this GOD-given opportunity to be used by GOD to make
you one of Jesus' gentile disciples in accord with Matthew 28:18-20.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Otoh, by being a disciple of LORD Jesus Christ, everything is all GOD:
Dear Heavenly Father, please forgive Mike because he knows not what he
is writing because this has all been coming from his deceitful heart
in accord with what is written in Your Word at Jeremiah 17:9. Please
drive out the deceit in Mike's heart as only You can.
Amen
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/13bd7f30793258d2?
Now, do you, Mike, want to become a disciple of LORD Jesus Christ so
that you too would be able to physically recognize the Messiah even in
the dark of night?
Love in the truth,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
This is perhaps the numero uno reason a person should *never* contact
the fruitcake charlie sightwalker.
Jimmy Alpha
*corrected
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bf99c4c6fe93d15f?
>>
>> Can you publicly say "The Holy Spirit dwells in me"?
>
> This physician would say that as "This gentile disciple of Jesus is
> presently in the Holy Spirit."
You really should read some theology books.
What is the name of the leader of your cult?
--
monkfish
Incredible.
Now, do you believe that it's you that saves?
Can you publicly say "Dear Lord, save me"?
--
monkfish
> Mike McClean wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Mike McClean wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Time is short Andrew.
>>>
>>> Nothing new.
>>>
>>>> The lamp must be full.
>>>
>>> It is when we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), are
>>> clothed with Power from on High that our lamps are full.
>>>
>>> If you, Mike, are worried about your lamp being empty, you can not
>>> stop worrying until after you become one of Jesus' disciples too in
>>> order to be in the Holy Spirit as is this physician.
>>
>> Self-election and self-anointing does not a son of God make, Andrew.
>
> Otoh, by being a disciple of LORD Jesus Christ, everything is all GOD:
Incredible.
Are you trying to say that
you are all God?
--
monkfish
someone use the term "gentile disciple", and seems now to want to set
himself up as the gate keeper as to who is one.
There is no such, none but a wholly invented idea born in the mind of a
lone ranger bible reader.
St. Paul again and again tells us that all christians are grafted into
the line of Abraham and thus we are not a gentile.
It is taught that in Christ there is no gentile or jew, nor freed or
slave, etc. and all are equal.
Because our lone ranger bible reader has no external to himself
leavening in a mature spiritual advisor, he is doomed to blunder into
such as this nonsense. It is only one in a line of such nonsense and
even heresy.
He needs to go to church and by discussion there enter into the
community of the church so as to act as a brake on his distortions of
thought. But it is sad to say that one such distortion of thought is
that he is sufficient unto himself in spiritual matters.
May God bless and protect and heal.
Truth remains something that can be verified by ANYONE regardless of
your beliefs
And ANYONE who represents something to be true - when they know it
cannot be established in that manner to be true - is a LIAR
This physician reads the Bible daily :-)
> What is the name of the leader of your cult?
This physician is not a member of any cult.
The Name of the Priest of the WDJW church that this physician is
attending at this very moment is LORD Jesus Christ :-)
Andrew B. Chung does not control anything.
Michael Christ
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f1ee77f09dcc5e15?
May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
You have been using Him all along, Andrew.
Michael Christ
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:16d2617d-2c40-4d3a...@v2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be28905910576997?
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > monkfish wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bf99c4c6fe93d15f?
>> >>
>> >> Can you publicly say "The Holy Spirit dwells in me"?
>> >
>> > This physician would say that as "This gentile disciple of Jesus is
>> > presently in the Holy Spirit."
>>
>> You really should read some theology books.
>
> This physician reads the Bible daily :-)
>
>> What is the name of the leader of your cult?
>
> This physician is not a member of any cult.
>
> The Name of the Priest of the WDJW church that this physician is
> attending at this very moment is LORD Jesus Christ :-)
Strange.
Your theology sure sounds like that of a cult I heard about.
Any idea what that cult is?
--
monkfish
And that belief is shared by Christians as well, that is why it is
called faith. Those trusting in it see no reason to convince hard core
atheists like you of the life they live, as your opinions are of no
importance to them, but you haven't learned that yet and may not ever
know it.
Not for the discerning.
> Your theology sure sounds like that of a cult I heard about.
Christianity remains a personal relationship with the risen Christ
Jesus instead of being part of a religion/cult.
Nor does anyone "titled" christ
A faith is still a belief - ROD
If it was real - it would be called reality - something religion does
not qualify as.
Both my father and I are agnostics - not atheists - despite your
claims
WE both - as Huxley Agmnostics do - only accept everything that can
be completely and absolutely PROVEN about gods and religions - which
is a completely supportable position - unlike yours. We accept only
PROVEN facts and PROVEN truth.
So - Here is your BIG chance
Provide a list of all the things about your gods that YOU can prove to
EVERYONE - regardless of their personal beliefs, along with the proof
(Hint - the bible is not original material and cannot be proven true -
so it is not supporting proof). A fact or truth is something that
would have to be accepted by everyone of all religions and non-beliefs
as being true.
To date - Andrew - Michael - Monkfish - Pastor Frank - Frank -
Guardian Snow - and every theist for Millenia - despite using the best
available methods - and having almost unlimited funds - have failed
to provide a single piece of PROOF that a god exists.
So - when asked the question = theists like you will do one or more of
three things
1 - Attack the question - even though you would love to have an real
answer
2 - Attack the questioner - which does not change the question
or
3 - Change the subject
And in doing so - they admit that they have NOTHING they can prove
about their gods.
The ball is in your court - lets see YOUR list!
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > monkfish wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> > monkfish wrote:
>> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bf99c4c6fe93d15f?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Can you publicly say "The Holy Spirit dwells in me"?
>> >> >
>> >> > This physician would say that as "This gentile disciple of Jesus is
>> >> > presently in the Holy Spirit."
>> >>
>> >> You really should read some theology books.
>> >
>> > This physician reads the Bible daily :-)
>> >
>> >> What is the name of the leader of your cult?
>> >
>> > This physician is not a member of any cult.
>> >
>> > The Name of the Priest of the WDJW church that this physician is
>> > attending at this very moment is LORD Jesus Christ :-)
>>
>> Strange.
>
> Not for the discerning.
>
>> Your theology sure sounds like that of a cult I heard about.
>
> Christianity remains a personal relationship with the risen Christ
> Jesus instead of being part of a religion/cult.
Wishful thinking.
Having a personal relationship with God does not mean
what you think it does.
Is God everywhere?
--
monkfish
We, who are true Christians (either Jew or gentile), worship Whom we
know.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly update folks on your still being unable to publicly
say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth.
If you are stupid enough to think that you know God,
I probably should leave you alone.
What does it mean for you to be in the Holy Spirit
when God is everywhere?
--
monkfish
That which GOD written on our hearts allows those of us, who are born
again (either Jew or gentile) to most assuredly without doubt know and
understand Him to be kind, just, and right (Jeremiah 9:24)
Is that why you are acting like a child
who keep on asking people "Do you love your mother
as much as I love my mother?"
If you are stupid enough to think that you know God,
you can answer whether God is everywhere, can't you?
--
monkfish
Those of us who are born again (either Jew or gentile) are acting like
adults who though adopted away as children are now having a reunion
with their biological siblings :-)
We are recognizing each other by our being able to say "Jesus is LORD"
using our mouths.
This is what Jesus wants:
You are like a child who just learned
how to move chess pieces and asks everyone
"Do you know how to play chess?"
Of course, we do; but we don't want
to play chess with you, dear.
Grow up.
Would you like to learn how to love your neighbor?
--
monkfish
A family reunion is not a game.
We are all created by God.
Stop trying so hard to pretend to be special.
--
monkfish
Only those of us who trust GOD actually belong to Him (John 3:16).
And you get to decide who trust God?
Have you lost your mind?
--
monkfish
GOD wants those of us who are born again (either Jew or gentile) to
simply find out who does not trust Him and to pray for them as this
physician has been praying for you.
For what?
--
monkfish
If you have to ask that, it would suggest that you possibly just had a
temporal lobe seizure. May the following refresh your short-term
memory:
Again, may GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit
(Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water
and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) and would come to trust the truth, Who
You sure are clueless about how to love others, aren't you?
--
monkfish
If you have to ask that, it does mean you erroneously think that love
resides in the brain.
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6d0ad1468eb538ad?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
In the interim, may GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new
spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of
water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust
Is this your way of showing it?
--
monkfish
It does, Andy. Chemically, and you know it. And if you don't, you're even
more deluded than I thought.
See the subject line.
Ever wondered why you are so ineffective and incompetent?
--
monkfish
If you have to ask that, it does mean you may have possibly suffered
another temporal lobe seizure and have forgotten that the Holy Spirit
has drawn you to read this physician's Usenet posts.
Your posts are not even worth reading carefully.
I'm learning more about what it means for God to be love
while teaching you what it means to be a Christian.