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John Q

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Dec 30, 2006, 10:20:16 PM12/30/06
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Hi all.

I am a 30yo male, non-smoker, and social drinker. I've had mild chest
pains since I was 25. Sometimes it is a mild burn in the middle of the
chest that feels dully painful when pressed, sometimes it is some
pinging pain in different spots on the left side of the chest,
sometimes it is just dull painin the middle of the chest and/or top
upper left side. I think I've felt mild pinging in the left arm a few
times in the last year but I am not sure how relevant it was. On the
scale of 1 to 10 the pain never really crosses 2, very light and dull
usually but still very worrysome.

I don't remember this pain happening when I exercise, though I haven't
had much exercise the last few years. The pain can last for a few hours
on and off with no particular pattern, sometimes for weeks at a time,
and sometimes weeks would pass where I would forget it. I can wake up
with the pain or it can start after I eat. I am not sure if it is worse
when I am very stressed but that is also possible - I had a lot of
stress a couple of weeks ago for about a week and the pain was there
every day, on and off.

I usually take a regular aspirin when the pain appears and often that
lessens it. My cholesterol was a bit high when I measured it - 206 with
146 ldl and my doctor put me on lipitor, 10mg which was over a year
ago. My father had an infarction (I am really not an expert on this)
when he was only 29 and had a single bypass graft then. He recently had
to go through that single bypass again. I've gone through at least 3
cardiologists and they've all pronounced me healthy. I've done stress
tests, echo and nuclear, some new modern test last year - where I was
injected with a dye and went through a circular object that took
pictures (that showed no calcification of the arteries, etc - I don't
have test results here), but basically none of the tests showed a
problem. I never had anything invasive done though.

I was in the Air Force (low exercise environment) for 2 years and the 3
times they took my blood pressure through those years (age 26-28) it
was in the 130-135 over 84-86 range. But when I went to the civilian
doctors my blood pressure was usually 120/80. So the last cardilogist
who looked at that said that there might be a problem with my blood
pressure, that it is unregulated and often runs high and that I should
also probably start on blood pressure meds. When I measure myself at
night it does seem to be in the 130-140 over 85-90 range though it is
less in the morning and it varies from week to week.

I also went to a gastrointestinal specialist to check for other
problems but I didn't respond to medication for acid reflux and he was
at a loss for the chest pains.

Another symptom that I've had through the years (though not lately
since I don't exercise much) since the college years, when I exercised
I had certain spells especially when re-starting after a break. I would
do either some reps with the weights and then maybe some
pullups/pushups in somewhat quick succession, my heart rate would go up
very quickly, I would feel lightheaded, have to sit or lie down and
almost pass out. I never passed out but the feeling was extremely
dreadful, accompanied by cold sweat and extreme light-headedness and
weakness. I took martial arts for 3 years and had these spells probably
about 10-15 times through that time. Not sure if it is at all related
as it started before chest pains.

The chest pains occur so often, without too much pattern, can occur for
pretty much a whole day for weeks on end that even though they are
light, the fact that it's been over 5 years and with my family history
I don't find cardiologist words very reassuring. Any ideas?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 31, 2006, 1:34:22 AM12/31/06
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The non-invasive tests are effective at ruling out the possibility of a
fixed obstructive coronary lesion like that which was recently
addressed in your dad.

> I was in the Air Force (low exercise environment) for 2 years and the 3
> times they took my blood pressure through those years (age 26-28) it
> was in the 130-135 over 84-86 range. But when I went to the civilian
> doctors my blood pressure was usually 120/80. So the last cardilogist
> who looked at that said that there might be a problem with my blood
> pressure, that it is unregulated and often runs high and that I should
> also probably start on blood pressure meds. When I measure myself at
> night it does seem to be in the 130-140 over 85-90 range though it is
> less in the morning and it varies from week to week.
>
> I also went to a gastrointestinal specialist to check for other
> problems but I didn't respond to medication for acid reflux and he was
> at a loss for the chest pains.
>
> Another symptom that I've had through the years (though not lately
> since I don't exercise much) since the college years, when I exercised
> I had certain spells especially when re-starting after a break. I would
> do either some reps with the weights and then maybe some
> pullups/pushups in somewhat quick succession, my heart rate would go up
> very quickly, I would feel lightheaded, have to sit or lie down and
> almost pass out. I never passed out but the feeling was extremely
> dreadful, accompanied by cold sweat and extreme light-headedness and
> weakness. I took martial arts for 3 years and had these spells probably
> about 10-15 times through that time. Not sure if it is at all related
> as it started before chest pains.

What you describe is typical for vasovagal (aka neurocardiogenic)
near-syncope.

> The chest pains occur so often, without too much pattern, can occur for
> pretty much a whole day for weeks on end that even though they are
> light, the fact that it's been over 5 years and with my family history
> I don't find cardiologist words very reassuring. Any ideas?

Would suggest you continue to seek referrals to consult with different
cardiologists as you continue to have chest pains until the cause is
found and addressed.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more,
dear John whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Jason Johnson

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Dec 31, 2006, 3:36:40 AM12/31/06
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In article <1167546862.5...@a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, "Andrew

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Dr. Chung,
Thanks for another excellent post. Keep helping people. Don't let your critics
keep you from helping people.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

SMC Demon Cabal #1 Flying Rat

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Dec 31, 2006, 6:53:09 AM12/31/06
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In article <jason-31120...@66-52-22-86.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net>,
ja...@nospam.com says...

>
> Dr. Chung,
> Thanks for another excellent post. Keep helping people. Don't let your critics
> keep you from helping people.
> Jason
>
so you think it's OK for Chunky to abuse newsgroups, cyberstalk women
and post quack diets as long as you get the occasional lucid post that
helps you?

You selfish piec of shit.

John Q

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Dec 31, 2006, 8:18:45 AM12/31/06
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> What you describe is typical for vasovagal (aka neurocardiogenic)
> near-syncope.

Couple of things - it was only brought on by some forms of exercise
(and not all - never running for example) - prolonged kicking for
example after a few other exercises, or a few weight lifting exercises
in a row. I've never actually lost consciousness in those episodes and
they all have subsided after about 5 minutes.

I think I can get very light-headed from seeing my own blood taken but
the episodes are rather different, minus cold sweat, and again I don't
actually faint.

>
> > The chest pains occur so often, without too much pattern, can occur for
> > pretty much a whole day for weeks on end that even though they are
> > light, the fact that it's been over 5 years and with my family history
> > I don't find cardiologist words very reassuring. Any ideas?

> Would suggest you continue to seek referrals to consult with different
> cardiologists as you continue to have chest pains until the cause is
> found and addressed.

Thanks.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 31, 2006, 9:42:28 AM12/31/06
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John Q wrote:

> Andrew wrote:

> > What you describe is typical for vasovagal (aka neurocardiogenic)
> > near-syncope.
>
> Couple of things - it was only brought on by some forms of exercise
> (and not all - never running for example) - prolonged kicking for
> example after a few other exercises, or a few weight lifting exercises
> in a row. I've never actually lost consciousness in those episodes and
> they all have subsided after about 5 minutes.

Still consistent with vasovagal near-syncope

> I think I can get very light-headed from seeing my own blood taken but
> the episodes are rather different, minus cold sweat, and again I don't
> actually faint.
>
> >
> > > The chest pains occur so often, without too much pattern, can occur for
> > > pretty much a whole day for weeks on end that even though they are
> > > light, the fact that it's been over 5 years and with my family history
> > > I don't find cardiologist words very reassuring. Any ideas?
>
> > Would suggest you continue to seek referrals to consult with different
> > cardiologists as you continue to have chest pains until the cause is
> > found and addressed.
>
> Thanks.

You are welcome.

All thanks and praises belong to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart,
soul, mind, and strength.

GeF

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Dec 31, 2006, 12:18:51 PM12/31/06
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SMC Demon Cabal #1 Flying Rat (TINDC) wrote:

>
> You selfish piec of shit.

Who ??

;)

John Q

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Dec 31, 2006, 2:10:29 PM12/31/06
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is there another group that I can post this to for more ideas on the
chest pains?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 31, 2006, 3:46:01 PM12/31/06
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John Q wrote:
> is there another group that I can post this to for more ideas on the
> chest pains?

No other unmoderated usenet group has an actively-practicing and
licensed board-certified cardiologist checking posts on a regular
basis.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more

dear neighbor John whom I love unconditionally.

GOD aka Jaguar

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Dec 31, 2006, 6:35:45 PM12/31/06
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THE LORD JESUS CHRIST CAN GO FUCK HIMSELF. MWUAHAHAHAHAHA
MWUAHAHAHAHAHA MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAPPY NEW YEAR CHING CHONG CHANG CHUNG!!!
EVERYBODY HAVE FUN TONIGHT!!!
EVERYBODY WANG CHUNG TONIGHT!!!!

The Rev Dr Hugh Jarse NLAHN

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Jan 1, 2007, 8:46:42 AM1/1/07
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GeF wrote:

Myohmyohmy. Are you suggesting that Jason has intimate knowledge of the
interior of Earthquack's sock drawer?

The Rev Dr Hugh Jarse NLAHN

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Jan 1, 2007, 8:47:30 AM1/1/07
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> John Q wrote:
> > is there another group that I can post this to for more ideas on the
> > chest pains?
>
> No other unmoderated usenet group has an actively-practicing and
> licensed board-certified cardiologist checking posts on a regular
> basis.
>

Neither does this one.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 1, 2007, 9:55:29 AM1/1/07
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Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:

Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c91a67aba61ecea1?

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more dear neigbor
Hugh whom I love unconditionally.

Hugh Jarse

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Jan 1, 2007, 1:28:56 PM1/1/07
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My pet psychopath Earthquack wrote:

> Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > John Q wrote:
> >
> > > > is there another group that I can post this to for more ideas on the
> > > > chest pains?
> > >
> > > No other unmoderated usenet group has an actively-practicing and
> > > licensed board-certified cardiologist checking posts on a regular
> > > basis.
> >
> > Neither does this one.
>
> Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>

Well, you're about to learn very soon what the word 'convicted'
actually means, Earthquack.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 2, 2007, 7:14:19 AM1/2/07
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Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > John Q wrote:
> > >
> > > > > is there another group that I can post this to for more ideas on the
> > > > > chest pains?
> > > >
> > > > No other unmoderated usenet group has an actively-practicing and
> > > > licensed board-certified cardiologist checking posts on a regular
> > > > basis.
> > >
> > > Neither does this one.
> >
> > Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

> Well, you're about to learn very soon what the word 'convicted'
> actually means, Earthquack.

You are projecting.

Such behavior as yours is an adverse reaction to the awesome power of
intercessory prayers of the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ made to our
heavenly Father lifting up those like you who have been convicted by
the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Meanwhile HIS brethren have been blessed:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

... and continue to be blessed:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee

Laus Deo ! !

Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our

diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Jaguar whom I love unconditionally.

Pastor Kutchie

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Jan 2, 2007, 7:26:17 AM1/2/07
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > John Q wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > is there another group that I can post this to for more ideas on the
> > > > > > chest pains?
> > > > >
> > > > > No other unmoderated usenet group has an actively-practicing and
> > > > > licensed board-certified cardiologist checking posts on a regular
> > > > > basis.
> > > >
> > > > Neither does this one.
> > >
> > > Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> > Well, you're about to learn very soon what the word 'convicted'
> > actually means, Earthquack.
>
> You are projecting.
>

You are mirroring.

Hugh Jarse

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Earthquack, cyberstalking pervert and spamming crossposting troll
wrote:

> Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > John Q wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > is there another group that I can post this to for more ideas on the
> > > > > > chest pains?
> > > > >
> > > > > No other unmoderated usenet group has an actively-practicing and
> > > > > licensed board-certified cardiologist checking posts on a regular
> > > > > basis.
> > > >
> > > > Neither does this one.
> > >
> > > Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> > Well, you're about to learn very soon what the word 'convicted'
> > actually means, Earthquack.
>
> You are projecting.

I have never committed any crimes.

>
> Such behavior as yours is an adverse reaction to

.. your sick, twisted ass still being present in the world of the
living.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 2, 2007, 3:49:11 PM1/2/07
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Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > John Q wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > is there another group that I can post this to for more ideas on the
> > > > > > > chest pains?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No other unmoderated usenet group has an actively-practicing and
> > > > > > licensed board-certified cardiologist checking posts on a regular
> > > > > > basis.
> > > > >
> > > > > Neither does this one.
> > > >
> > > > Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >
> > > Well, you're about to learn very soon what the word 'convicted'
> > > actually means, Earthquack.
> >
> > You are projecting.
>
> I have never committed any crimes.

Libel with the willful intent to defame is a crime.

Indeed, bearing false witness as you have done is a violation of one of
the 10 commandments of GOD, Creator of heaven and earth.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our

diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our


neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor

Hugh whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Meanwhile, HIS brethren have been blessed:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

... and continue to be blessed:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee

(note: Only those who are blessed by GOD will have access to these
OurLittle.net articles per a secure IP database. All others will have
to make charitable $30.00 donations to TheWellnessFoundation.com first
to gain access.)

Pastor Kutchie

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Jan 2, 2007, 5:42:12 PM1/2/07
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Huckster, cyberstalker and brazen bullshitter Earthquack wrote:

> Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > John Q wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > is there another group that I can post this to for more ideas on the
> > > > > > > > chest pains?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No other unmoderated usenet group has an actively-practicing and
> > > > > > > licensed board-certified cardiologist checking posts on a regular
> > > > > > > basis.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neither does this one.
> > > > >
> > > > > Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
> > >
> > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> > >
> > > > Well, you're about to learn very soon what the word 'convicted'
> > > > actually means, Earthquack.
> > >
> > > You are projecting.
> >
> > I have never committed any crimes.
>
> Libel with the willful intent to defame is a crime.
>

So is advanced fee fraud.

<snip attempt at advanced fee fraud>

Pastor Kutchie

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Pastor Kutchie wrote:

So is cyberstalking

Stephen Knight

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Jan 2, 2007, 10:32:49 PM1/2/07
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On 2 Jan 2007 14:42:12 -0800, "Pastor Kutchie"
<use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:

So typical of the criminal to blame the accuser. Shifting the
burden of proof from the pious position is comically a standard
position for shyster con-men and 'ka'ching' superstitious shaman.

Dung thinks everyone is as stupid as he is. He can't grasp why some
people don't believe him. Medically, it's called sociopath.

Warlord Steve
BAAWA

satyr

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Jan 3, 2007, 1:30:48 AM1/3/07
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On 1 Jan 2007 06:55:29 -0800, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > John Q wrote:
>>
>> > > is there another group that I can post this to for more ideas on the
>> > > chest pains?
>> >
>> > No other unmoderated usenet group has an actively-practicing and
>> > licensed board-certified cardiologist checking posts on a regular
>> > basis.
>>
>> Neither does this one.
>
>Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c91a67aba61ecea1?
>
>May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
>diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
>neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more dear neigbor
>Hugh whom I love unconditionally.
>
>Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Hey Chung, why don't you just practice faith healing on your patients?
If God wants the plaque removed from that artery, he doesn't need your
help.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 3, 2007, 2:28:35 AM1/3/07
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neighbor "Satyr" wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > John Q wrote:
> >>
> >> > > is there another group that I can post this to for more ideas on the
> >> > > chest pains?
> >> >
> >> > No other unmoderated usenet group has an actively-practicing and
> >> > licensed board-certified cardiologist checking posts on a regular
> >> > basis.
> >>
> >> Neither does this one.
> >
> >Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
> >
> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c91a67aba61ecea1?
> >
> >May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
> >diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
> >neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more dear neigbor
> >Hugh whom I love unconditionally.
> >
> >Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Hey Chung, why don't you just practice faith healing on your patients?

All healing, including that which my LORD has me do, comes from GOD,
Creator of heaven and earth:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Healer.asp

> If God wants the plaque removed from that artery, he doesn't need your
> help.

Correct.

Moreover, when GOD wants to prove HIS existence, HE doesn't need my
help for that either. Simply witness how HE has compelled demons to
show they no longer have free will:

(1) One demon has been driven to provide evidence that not only is the
Wellness Foundation a bona fide 501(c)(3) tax-exempt corporation
receiving fully tax-deductible contributions but that the amounts have
been modest enough to prove that it has not been involved in any scams
despite continuing false accusations by the same demon to the contrary:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b9c58e5e9b7965ae?

(2) Another demon has been driven to reveal its homophobic nature:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9fa4c1587ff18450?

(3) A third demon which is the mascot for the burning AUK netcabal.com
web site is itself in flames:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d4cb78d132be58bc?

These demons are what's left of those who have unwisely chosen to
blaspheme the Holy Spirit:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/55b9f72abe5705dc?

This victory belongs to GOD whom I love with all my heart soul, mind,
and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/love.asp

Your consolation prize is eternal life if you wisely choose to
surrender to HIM:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our

neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
"Satyr" whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Meanwhile, HIS brethren have been blessed:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

... and continue to be blessed:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee

(note: Only those who are blessed by GOD will have access to these and
other related OurLittle.net articles per a secure IP database. All

Pastor Kutchie

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Subject: Strong evidence that there is no God.

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

> All healing, including that which my LORD has me do, comes from GOD,
> Creator of heaven and earth:
>

QED.

satyr

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Jan 3, 2007, 7:27:02 PM1/3/07
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On 2 Jan 2007 23:28:35 -0800, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>> If God wants the plaque removed from that artery, he doesn't need your
>> help.
>
>Correct.

So why do you intervene?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 3, 2007, 7:59:24 PM1/3/07
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Convicted neighbor satyr wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirt, boldly wrote:
>
> >> If God wants the plaque removed from that artery, he doesn't need your
> >> help.
> >
> >Correct.
>
> So why do you intervene?

GOD's will be done and not my will.

May HE continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our


diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
"Satyr" whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Meanwhile, HIS brethren have been blessed:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

... and continue to be blessed:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee

(note: Only those who are blessed by LORD GOD Almighty, Creator of
heaven and earth, will have access to these and other related
OurLittle.net articles per a secure IP database maintained by
TheWellnessFoundation.com)

I KILLED YOUR GOD...IT WAS EASY!

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1167872364.6...@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...

> Convicted neighbor satyr wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirt, boldly wrote:
>>
>> >> If God wants the plaque removed from that artery, he doesn't need your
>> >> help.
>> >
>> >Correct.
>>
>> So why do you intervene?
>
> GOD's will be done and not my will.
>

so answer his question allready-we are waiting oh stupid one...


Art Deco

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Jan 3, 2007, 9:41:02 PM1/3/07
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False prophet Andrew B. Chung spammed:

As these kooklinks you post again and again and again are not offset by
a valid sig delimiter, they constitute cancelable spam. Ergo you are a
spammer, Chung.

Art Deco

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Jan 3, 2007, 10:50:30 PM1/3/07
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False prophet Andrew B. Chung spammed:

>(3) A third demon which is the mascot for the burning AUK netcabal.com


>web site is itself in flames:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d4cb78d132be58bc?
>
>These demons are what's left of those who have unwisely chosen to
>blaspheme the Holy Spirit:

These are all bald-face lies, Chung, I am not a "demon", and I am not
"burning". Quite apt that you have selected a notorious kook like
Steve "Bowturd" Young as "evidence" to support your lies.

Message has been deleted

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 4, 2007, 3:37:44 AM1/4/07
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jitter wrote:

> netcabal.com demon wrote:
> >
> > These are all bald-face lies, Chung, I am not a "demon", and I am not
> > "burning". Quite apt that you have selected a notorious kook like
> > Steve "Bowturd" Young as "evidence" to support your lies.
>
> [Yawn] To you, everyone is "Bowturd." I don't know what he did to you,
> but whatever it was, it obviously fucked up your psyche something awful
> and created an obsession of almost unbelievable severity. Go get help
> from a shrink before it turns you into a blathering nutcase -- oops, too
> late.

Such is the tragic consequence that befalls those who unwise choose to
blaspheme the Holy Spirit thereby losing their free wills when their
souls die and they become demons:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/55b9f72abe5705dc?

Where there is no free will, there can only be obsessive behavior:

(1) About the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3f0cc7378c56222d?

(2) About links:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4ea0b8ed02a978f?

(3) About the Bible:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/46f20cbf5e7e6fba?

(4) About imaginary spam:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be781dbc7492908b?

(5) About appropriate cross-posting to weight loss groups:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6a06ee39370407a5?

(6) About the good works of the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b9c58e5e9b7965ae?

(7) About money:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/50a37b2f0ed62645?

Meanwhile netcabal.com continues to also burn now for nearly a month:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1348055d48784253?

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our

neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more dear neighbor
whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Meanwhile, HIS brethren have been blessed:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

... and continue to be blessed:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee

(note: Only those who are blessed by LORD GOD Almighty, Creator of
heaven and earth, will have access to these and other related
OurLittle.net articles per a secure IP database maintained by
TheWellnessFoundation.com)

Jaguar

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Jan 4, 2007, 4:01:12 AM1/4/07
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Chump, My god is better, stronger and way more powerful than your god.
My god kicked your gods ass.

The power of SATAN compells you.
The power of SATAN compells you.
The power of SATAN compells you.
The power of SATAN compells you.
The power of SATAN compells you.
The power of SATAN compells you.

Hugh Jarse

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Jan 4, 2007, 2:42:51 PM1/4/07
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Baron Quackhausen had no choice but to write:

> Where there is no free will, there can only be obsessive behavior:
>

YOU said it, sunshine!

:-)

Art Deco

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Jan 4, 2007, 9:29:02 PM1/4/07
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False prophet Andrew B. Chung spammed:

>jitter wrote:


>> netcabal.com demon wrote:
>> >
>> > These are all bald-face lies, Chung, I am not a "demon", and I am not
>> > "burning". Quite apt that you have selected a notorious kook like
>> > Steve "Bowturd" Young as "evidence" to support your lies.
>>
>> [Yawn] To you, everyone is "Bowturd." I don't know what he did to you,
>> but whatever it was, it obviously fucked up your psyche something awful
>> and created an obsession of almost unbelievable severity. Go get help
>> from a shrink before it turns you into a blathering nutcase -- oops, too
>> late.
>
>Such is the tragic consequence that befalls those who unwise choose to
>blaspheme the Holy Spirit thereby losing their free wills when their
>souls die and they become demons:

Nonsense. I'm not a demon, I'm not burning, and you are spamming again.
>
>http://groSMACK


>
>Where there is no free will, there can only be obsessive behavior:

Did you learn this "fact" in med school?


>
>(1) About the 2PD-OMER Approach:

Nonsense.
>
>http://groSMACK
>
>(2) About links:

Nonsense.
>
>http://groSMACK
>
>(3) About the Bible:

Nonsense.
>
>http://groSMACK
>
>(4) About imaginary spam:

Nonsense.
>
>http://groSMACK


>
>(5) About appropriate cross-posting to weight loss groups:

Nonsense.
>
>http://groSMACK


>
>(6) About the good works of the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ:

Nonsense.
>
>http://groSMACK
>
>(7) About money:

Nonsense.
>
>http://groSMACK


>
>Meanwhile netcabal.com continues to also burn now for nearly a month:

Nonsense.
>
>http://groSMACK


>
>May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
>diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
>neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more dear neighbor
>whom I love unconditionally.
>
>Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
>Andrew <><
>--
>Andrew B. Chung
>Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA

>http://HearSMACK


>
>As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
>unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
>(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
>
>Meanwhile, HIS brethren have been blessed:
>

>http://MablSMACK


>
>... and continue to be blessed:
>

>http://MablSMACK


>
>(note: Only those who are blessed by LORD GOD Almighty, Creator of
>heaven and earth, will have access to these and other related
>OurLittle.net articles per a secure IP database maintained by
>TheWellnessFoundation.com)


More spam. You're just full of nonsense, Chung.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 5, 2007, 3:58:30 AM1/5/07
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Convicted neighbor Hugh Jarse wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > Where there is no free will, there can only be obsessive behavior:
>
> YOU said it, sunshine!
>
> :-)

Behold on cue:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/84a5461e133e9880?

Clearly the netcabal.com demon has no free will:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/55b9f72abe5705dc?

And just as clearly, you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot
more, dear neighbor Hugh whom I love unconditionally.

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