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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 29, 2008, 5:53:44 AM7/29/08
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Exodus 16:31-36...

The people of Israel called the bread manna. It was white like coriander seed and tasted like wafers made with honey. Moses said, "This is what the LORD has commanded: 'Take an omer of manna and keep it for the generations to come, so they can see the bread I gave you to eat in the desert when I brought you out of Egypt.' "

So Moses said to Aaron, "Take a jar and put an omer of manna in it. Then place it before the LORD to be kept for the generations to come."

As the LORD commanded Moses, Aaron put the manna in front of the Testimony, that it might be kept. The Israelites ate manna forty years, until they came to a land that was settled; they ate manna until they reached the border of Canaan.

(An omer is one tenth of an ephah.)
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Because the texture and consistency of manna was like that of "wafers," it had to be measured out by weight rather than by volume because settling would occur making any volume measurement unreliable. Weight measurements were easily done with the equipment that was used to measure out talents of gold (Exodus 25:39 and Exodus 37:24). After weighing out an omer of manna, dear Aaron placed it in a jar that had room to spare. This jar did have a volume capacity of about a tenth of an ephah:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/OMER

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ...

.. by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

.. gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

.. for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21...

http://TruthRUS.org/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

May all souls choose to become healthier:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHealthy

Here is a simple parable given in hopes of promoting much greater understanding:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungrier, which is healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 29, 2008, 5:56:05 AM7/29/08
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When we eat delicious desserts in the right amounts, we become healthier (hungrier) than ever.

Don Kirkman

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Jul 29, 2008, 6:03:12 PM7/29/08
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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <1217324...@alibistextweb.com>:

>Because the texture and consistency of manna was like that of "wafers," it had to be measured out by weight rather than by volume because settling would occur making any volume measurement unreliable. Weight measurements were easily done with the equipment that was used to measure out talents of gold (Exodus 25:39 and Exodus 37:24). After weighing out an omer of manna, dear Aaron placed it in a jar that had room to spare. This jar did have a volume capacity of about a tenth of an ephah:

So how did they know that three millennia later the Europeans would
invent the 16-ounce "pound"? (The Roman "pound" was 327.45 grams,
which is about 11.5 ounces.)

"It is highly probable that the inscribed ones [stone weights] were
standard but in general unmarked weights were used." One ancient
stone, apparently a standard, weighed 10.515 grams; "Ten other
examples of the same class range from 10.21 to 9.28 grams."

And of course we should know whether they were using the Babylonian 60
shekel maneh, or the Palestinian 50 shekel one. Or were they using
the heavy maneh, twice the weight of the standard?

""Furthermore ancient balances did not conform to modern standards in
accuracy and sensitiveness." Duh!

So much for that carefully controlled two pound diet.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 29, 2008, 6:55:14 PM7/29/08
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convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/524cc2129c901d99?

>
> So how did they know that three millennia later the Europeans would
> invent the 16-ounce "pound"? (The Roman "pound" was 327.45 grams,
> which is about 11.5 ounces.)

GOD remains the timeless Author of all reality.

May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray
for your perishing soul, dear Don:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/134aca053227804c?

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?

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Cary Kittrell

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Jul 29, 2008, 7:39:47 PM7/29/08
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Don Kirkman <don...@charter.net>

>
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <1217324...@alibistextweb.com>:
>
> >Because the texture and consistency of manna was like that of "wafers," it had to be measured out by weight rather than by volume because settling would occur making any volume measurement unreliable. Weight measurements were easily done with the equipm
> ent that was used to measure out talents of gold (Exodus 25:39 and Exodus 37:24). After weighing out an omer of manna, dear Aaron placed it in a jar that had room to spare. This jar did have a volume capacity of about a tenth of an ephah:
>
> So how did they know that three millennia later the Europeans would
> invent the 16-ounce "pound"? (The Roman "pound" was 327.45 grams,
> which is about 11.5 ounces.)

Oh, hey, you know: just like they knew that "Babylon the Great"
in Greek would translate into an anagram for "At Tehran by Globe"
in English two millennia later.

(OK, so it's a meaningless anagram, but hey, that's not the point...)


-- cary

Cary Kittrell

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Jul 29, 2008, 7:48:44 PM7/29/08
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In article <095364fd-4b0c-404e...@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> writes:
> convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/524cc2129c901d99?
> >
> > So how did they know that three millennia later the Europeans would
> > invent the 16-ounce "pound"? (The Roman "pound" was 327.45 grams,
> > which is about 11.5 ounces.)
>
> GOD remains the timeless Author of all reality.

Not all: you've come up with a number on your own. Right here
in this very group.


-- cary

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 29, 2008, 8:20:17 PM7/29/08
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convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/524cc2129c901d99?
> > >
> > > So how did they know that three millennia later the Europeans would
> > > invent the 16-ounce "pound"? (The Roman "pound" was 327.45 grams,
> > > which is about 11.5 ounces.)
> >
> > GOD remains the timeless Author of all reality.
>
> Not all:

Yes, all.

> you've come up with a number on your own.

Incorrect.

> Right here in this very group.

Usenet remains a text-based medium.

Sadly, this is a concept that appears to be beyond your cognitive
ability to grasp:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/773bdee360f7775e?

May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray

for your perishing soul, dear Cary:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5c7bedfac3f61358?

Don Kirkman

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Jul 30, 2008, 5:19:50 PM7/30/08
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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article
<095364fd-4b0c-404e...@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>:

>convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/524cc2129c901d99?

>> So how did they know that three millennia later the Europeans would
>> invent the 16-ounce "pound"? (The Roman "pound" was 327.45 grams,
>> which is about 11.5 ounces.)

>GOD remains the timeless Author of all reality.

Relevance to the given facts?
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 31, 2008, 4:29:21 AM7/31/08
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convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/524cc2129c901d99?
>
> >> So how did they know that three millennia later the Europeans would
> >> invent the 16-ounce "pound"? (The Roman "pound" was 327.45 grams,
> >> which is about 11.5 ounces.)
>
> >GOD remains the timeless Author of all reality.
>
> Relevance to the given facts?

"Knowing the correct frame of reference remains essential to
understanding reality." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

A reminder for you and others following this thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0d7048a29e85b87e?

Don Kirkman

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Jul 31, 2008, 2:13:53 PM7/31/08
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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article
<2e0c9de0-8273-4727...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>:

>convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/524cc2129c901d99?

>> >> So how did they know that three millennia later the Europeans would
>> >> invent the 16-ounce "pound"? (The Roman "pound" was 327.45 grams,
>> >> which is about 11.5 ounces.)

>> >GOD remains the timeless Author of all reality.

>> Relevance to the given facts?

>"Knowing the correct frame of reference remains essential to
>understanding reality." -- Holy Spirit

Relevance to the given fact that there was no uniform standard of
weights when Exodus was written?
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

Cary Kittrell

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Jul 31, 2008, 2:36:31 PM7/31/08
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Don Kirkman <don...@charter.net>

Ah, but don't you see -- all you have are them-there dang
"facts", and:

Discernment automatically transcends an objective
consideration of the facts.

Hey, don't blame me -- *he* said it (in this text-based medium)


-- cary

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 2, 2008, 12:19:50 AM8/2/08
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convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/524cc2129c901d99?
>
> >> >> So how did they know that three millennia later the Europeans would
> >> >> invent the 16-ounce "pound"? (The Roman "pound" was 327.45 grams,
> >> >> which is about 11.5 ounces.)
>
> >> >GOD remains the timeless Author of all reality.
>
> >> Relevance to the given facts?
>
> >"Knowing the correct frame of reference remains essential to
> >understanding reality." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

> Relevance to the given fact that there was no uniform standard of
> weights when Exodus was written?

Reality will always be relevant to any discussion.

Truth is simple.

Reminder for you and others who are following this thread:

Don Kirkman

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Aug 2, 2008, 2:40:15 AM8/2/08
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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article
<4d8704a9-b1b4-477e...@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>:

>convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:

>> >> >> So how did they know that three millennia later the Europeans would
>> >> >> invent the 16-ounce "pound"? (The Roman "pound" was 327.45 grams,
>> >> >> which is about 11.5 ounces.)

>> >> >GOD remains the timeless Author of all reality.

>> >> Relevance to the given facts?

>> >"Knowing the correct frame of reference remains essential to
>> >understanding reality." -- Holy Spirit

>> Relevance to the given fact that there was no uniform standard of


>> weights when Exodus was written?

>Reality will always be relevant to any discussion.

That's why I'm throwing reality in face (your display); the reality is
there was no single standard of weights in the Hebrew/Jewish community
so your assertion that they had a single weight equivalent to two
points is wrong, whether it's a deliberate lie or merely a delusional
discernment.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 2, 2008, 6:34:06 AM8/2/08
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convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>
> >> >> >> So how did they know that three millennia later the Europeans would
> >> >> >> invent the 16-ounce "pound"? (The Roman "pound" was 327.45 grams,
> >> >> >> which is about 11.5 ounces.)
>
> >> >> >GOD remains the timeless Author of all reality.
>
> >> >> Relevance to the given facts?
>
> >> >"Knowing the correct frame of reference remains essential to
> >> >understanding reality." -- Holy Spirit
>
> >> Relevance to the given fact that there was no uniform standard of
> >> weights when Exodus was written?
>
> >Reality will always be relevant to any discussion.
>
> That's why I'm throwing reality in face (your display);

Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

Reality is infinitely bigger than you.

Moreover, LORD Almighty GOD is the Author of it.

Reminder for you and others who are following this thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b09fe2cd7fceefc8?

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